Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #126 - Maïka Desnoyers | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

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I've said she, she is before also dynamic, I'm I'm hard to make

like a move to because it's someone who is very transparent but is she

we don't know, we know, we don't know, but we'll have always, when we're talking about her, I'm gonna say, hello. Hello. How you go? I'm going, and I'm doing, and I'm doing all. It's all the time that we're asking, because the people are saying, yeah, but she, she's

being transparent, she does all, but in the same time, you decide what you want to do people on your social? I'm, I try to the plus of things possible, but there are some where I'm not necessarily fair of me, or I'm not sure

with the parkour that I've used, and I'm not and I'm not incited the people to see my example. So I'd

say, some people people are people and they're saying, but let's on your life how you're doing it's

how you've done to pass to travel of this thing? I can't, I can't not go to

go away. I'm not, I'm trying to get some for me. It's important. What's that's changed

in your life, the arrival of the media social? It's just it's just platt to say

me, it's just and I'm still someone who has not a ton of amy, I've been I'm a little

exhoded when I was young I'm not necessarily a lot of a lot of course so I finished by

me re-enfermed on me I've been very much an intimidation on secondar so. So,

I'm just a woman who was quite very soon but it has made in sort that I'm

reaffirm and then the media social me would be able to have some

but not 24 on 24 when I when I'm when I'm when I open

my phone, to to be able to talk with the world. So at the first it was hyper positive.

And then I would say that to know I think it's a bit more tough. Yeah, the people are not the

internet that it was I don't know if you have to you're talking before the pandemic?

Is that? I'm going to it's in the first to be in to be on Facebook, Facebook,

Instagram and all that. And the people were super fin, there were even Twitter.

I I mean, on Twitter, we're changed, and at a moment of a minute, I got disconnected of Twitter rapidly, because I'm... The mechance-tie.

Yeah, we, we're, we're, we're changing and so it's been about the pandemic, but... Yeah, yeah, but, yeah,

but, yeah. But, I mean, I liked that, I thought that people were that people were just, it was a social, it's an

internet. And now, I think it's a way, to be a way, to be able to be able to catch

their venom on the so often. So, if you're a certain arne at an interior or a frustration, well, it's like if the internet is there and it's like, okay, I'm got to what we're going to. What we did not before, and what we'd do in real with the people? So I don't know, I think, there's often

the positive than negative, but I thought that there was more of positive. But you said you've already been intimidated. Is that you've got the impression that so, it's that a revere? That's sov, very often. This blessure save very, very often

for many many people are like, ah, but there's like to be like to be able to do you know,

I'm playing not, I'm just explain to what I'm like the people, they want to

just to get to be to say, and then you see how you see, it's, it's like,

it's my internet is in sometimes to me ravaging a little. And there

there are sometimes where I'm saying, I've been a break, but it's that's a

employee also. Instagram has been a employee, yes, on my account. I can't

I can't decide tomorrow I'm going to pay the lawyer. Yeah, because it's like a

radio to TV for example or the radio or whatever there's a publicity. You're on your channel

at the time on all the you do you do you have also the publicity integrated so you're

talking of a product you're you go to it's like that we're doing the publicis

it's also in 12025 so. So your value is your number of

by a part, not your value personal, but your value of market, for how many vote to pay, it's even that you're going in part of the way.

Exactly. But, but there's my way, I'm saying, and I'm saying, the day where I'd

do you feel any sign on internet, I'm going to put that to put it. And that's in the past

where I'm made, you make, you get, I'd give, an example, here, you know,

a dam who made on my account on the job, of courteire immoblier, because I'm

also courteire immobliar remobliar. She made listen, these vachery, just a paragraph of vachery. And I said,

but why? She mimes not, she didn't, she didn't, and she said she'd be able to like that, but it's blestant.

For her, she's written, she pays, she's been to continue his life, she came to me to be

to be in, and solid. And it's that the blessure, just of my infance rove.

Each little insult, Each thing not gente that I will receive come

to be able more than certain people could be able because it comes to give up

a big bobo that that's that's when you have used with the intimidation

more younger, it's there in psychotherapy I've done in the

thing, but it can't get a but it's that there's there's like

there's there there's sometimes I'm probably everybody, and I'm

all people all to what there's people who decide just to be and who

think not to say, and they say, I'm the right to the word of it's not, but I'm

also to the repercussions that's over on the people. You know, I'm not, it's not

the young between us on the internet there's there's a with your conjoin with your

by SMS by internet it's so it's so you would say these things in real

in person? No, so, think, think, think, think, think,

if you are two times, there, there's repercussions to these words.

It's because if we're concerned a lot of we're in it's like we don't know that you're

not, you know, so you look in all the implication benevolal, all those who want to change,

who will have to but what we can't in our days, it's the media,

you know, it's all right, you know, the morning, you go over that, and okay, it's so,

okay, so that's like a day, it's a day it's a report plus, because that's like

a time, yeah, but I, I'm do pleasure, but there's people, like the dame of the year, who coop my pleasure,

who cup the fun that I have to discuss with the people, you know, I try, I guess, I'm really to respond to all the people who are,

for me, it's super important for always, but this dame, it's plait, because there's 100 people who are being able to

be able to, yes, because it's blestant, it's blestant, and I think that I don't to understand to understand

the mechancestet. I, I don't not to be someone of the fondament mechant. At the

contrary, I've always used to try to try to find out to me. So, sometimes I'm

just why I'm merit these words that just because you're not there's nothing in common

with me and you don't know that's correct that you really to be able to me shooote

to do that? Well, my my wife the most the most year at the school

at the time time in the primary and there's a little guy said,

oh my my dad you're my mom might don't even not for your father, and he said,

you're really obliged to me to do it? It's true. I found out because it's the fact, the little bit of, well, well, no. You know, why? It's, it's not quite to react to

like that, to be able to get. But I've always retoned her response to her. There's, that, what be the best

she's really obliged to me to say? Because, now, you know, you've done, it's what? It's what's

that's the point that you get to that. But the rest of the just that I look at that, I mean, it's really something that's really something that's

that we're in the impression that the world, perhaps, is more mechant that he could be more. But the mechant is really much. Well, the mechant is very mechant,

it's so. Before, we'd have not this contact that, you know, he'd have re-envoed a letter by the post and it would be all the steps

to make in the envelope, to make an item, to go to the bureau to have never seen, you'd understand? But I was already received a letter of insult,

to my my bureau. I'm going to Remax and he had pretty, it's a person that it was not

not necessarily to me, but he said he was going to move on new my mission that I've been ten years,

and he said it's a cause of people like you, the courte like you have the house of the

property, but he had put the time with these letters in the journal like in the film,

like a film of a role, like a menace yeah, and it's really, it was really

of the art over me and all And I was there, well, let's have really pretty time. I mean, I said,

he's pretty the time to decouping each one of course immobliate, and that's the cause of me, that's the cause of me, that was to get to be able to

the price of the price of the money, and he was sure, he made the time to do that. I've never heard of course, but you know,

there are kind of there can't we're not no, no, really. Are you ready to open to your job? Is you the choice?

You have not a choice I see, I've got the choice. Net, you're in an place in a place of security. Oh, thank you.

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the problem? Yeah, it's arrived? Can't even, yeah. Okay, right. Recentment,

yeah. And I'll say, often it's often it's when we're talking about the family.

Okay. Because, you you can't understand the person who says if if I continue, I'm

in the troupe So I respect that, and I'm it's a way

my case to go because I see that if you want to get you can't

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Perfect. So you will have and choose one to which you'll and I'm to choose one to which

you'll have to answer after. Okay. What person has made a difference in your life? What's who can't

vulnerable? What kind of an infant were you? When I look in the mirror,

I see and what importance accord you to the regard of the other? Oh,

boy. Okay. Um, um, um, good I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to I'd say the first person who has made a difference in my life is my grandmother Monique has had a restaurant

for a little restaurant fast food three children a married attains to Parkinson so So my grand papaya, it's a young Parkinsonian. He was, like I said, he was quite very young

when he had started his malady. And it's made in sort that he had to be the restaurant in this time that, she had to be with my grandpapa, the three children, and the restaurant that had, the gangne pin, while my grandpa could put more anything to do.

So, you know, I've seen my grandma, you know, she, she, had been to finish, she, she, had come up the morning, she, at first of the restaurant at 10 o'clock, all, you know, in the time she had me

also often. So, I've seen, she's the she's the she, I've tried

long as she she's been to be very to be able to be effective in the life it's the person that I

know when she had done about it's she, and she, she said often of the thing, she had been back

she she, she, she, she said just the opposite of what she she said, she, let's just,

let's come to go out after a woman, you can't finally, you know, in the

year when she she was like, it's like, it's like all the whole

was normal, you know, but it's really very, very present for me. We do often that,

you know, she's there, we're like, the grand mamas, she, with me, it's been really

a great mom, she, she was tough with my mother, her whole her life, but with

me, she had been more dull, she was really very present. I've seen also

to be present for my grandpap she, she, she, she, she,

she, it would be, it's It's not. There are many who will let their marries, their conjoint in

these moments difficult. She was there. It was a batante, really, with a great

heart. She, yeah, she really made a very, very great difference in my life, I think,

I think, I'm going, to make, some of the other things. She's She's dead. No,

she's not decided, she's still there? She's still there, she, she is a malade

a bit her head, at a moiety. She's, she'll start a little bit of Alzheimer, so my mother's on occup, really oh, the man,

my mother, my uncle, are really incredible. She's in my wife, she's not, she's not, she knows my

time, but, you know, she's still the fun, because this morning I'm talking with my chum, and I've seen, the book that we can

buy, my mom, tell me, my mom, tell me, I'm, I'm actually, I'm actually,

I'm actually, one for my mom, one for the mom of my chum, and one for my grand mare. Because she's still there.

So I want to be able to ask her to ask what she she's, you know, I regret again at this day to not

have done with my grand-ma. Oh, yeah. She'd decided at 102 and had all of her head.

Oh, my dear. I don't know because at all the times she she'd it's,

it's, it's, it's it's, it's it's, and the story of the story of the family, you

there's a there's there don't. They're because they are there. And so

when you will not pass this annonels that you don't know it's just like,

I'm going to ask you know to absorb their vehicle but no it's more more than it's more

to have by it if she could create some fun to have it's a idea.

I've decided for my for my pair, for the pair to my chum I'm like

okay you're like you're you're with the hand different with the

yeah plenty of because there there's also for the grandpap excuse me So, he's written, Papa,

Raccount me your story. Mama, Raccount me your story. And I'm like, I'm going to buy the stories of all the world. Ah, it's not interesting, that's

Martin's it like $120 of a little book, Raccond me your story. But for your grandmother,

it's the met on on a pedestal. Yeah, you know, it's just, we're looking a little

like, you know, there are some artists paint, that have a model, who will paint what he's

with their interpretation, I think there's a bit of that with different postures. Really? It's so, it's a real because she's her like she said, she's

made a great difference in my life, and then she was there oh, I want to be in profit, I'm going to be there. I've really to find.

There's something that's said, she has always been more with my mother. Is that you think that it has done to

your mother to have more to have more more of you? I don't. I don't don't, and she, she, she, she,

she, she, I'm I think there had a little something in the entire of her, to say, why my my mother

had been rough like that because she was really rough with my mother. My mother has always

had always more of more of more of character so it's like my grandmair she said,

she'll be and she would not say that she didn't know she's it's really rough

you know, even I'm even I'm able to it's capable to it's able to see, so to see, why I'm

why I'm not my mother like all everyone know, why I didn't not like that with me?

So, no, I think not that it's I think that there's a kind of a maybe a little

kind of it's a great word, it's a great term for that but a idea, I mean, I'd like

that's like that my mother was like that yeah, to know that's a other angle. And then

your mom and the type of a grandmamam and a great mama gotto. Very,

very great great gotto, I'm very when the when the when they're when they're

fun, that you don't get to of the biscuits and the chip and the si, and the suss, if you please, if you please, you know, when I said,

hey, you're going to go to show, automatically it's, yes, you're going to get it's just she'll go to see, it's just, she's just,

she's just, it's just often, you know, but the grandparents, they guard when they go, at two routes to us,

she's always so she goes, she goes really very soon. She's been she makes pleasure and then she makes pleasure, and then

the person who's me and when he when he runs speedy, you're like, it's just Mammy, Marmy,

Aright. Probably, maybe I'm a little bit of 13 months, so maybe I'm sorry, it's sure, it's sure that you're

going to be, and then you're doing, and then then it's like, okay, we're going out. And you're to do you,

100% Yeah, 100% Yeah, yeah, there's never a moment where they're there, and

they're just they're there and even my chum, they see, they're going to at my, at home

at my mom, and she's my mom, and we know the peace, we know, we know, we're talking,

In talking to your family, what kind of were you? I was a child when I was a child with a very, very grand

care. I had all the secretary at the school, I said, my mom, at the point I was very

elevated, at the point I was very much, I was always the emotions at the interior

of me. What he had made in sort that Ranzo secondaire, I was not super

fast. The young who found the depression, it was 100% Yeah, so. Like I said

Tantau, I've vied the intimidation second as intense. But why you're intimidated? Hey, it's totally

non-no, it's a coming to secondar- one. I was arrived in a college private, a new

school that was more from my so that so people that people, there was a new guy in

second-air three. And he had been on age on me, finally, I've

started with, but there had made that all the second- three, we realized that I

existed, that I'm And at the instant where I was left, I'm doing the book emissar, all simply. It was not, it was not

always the mechantly. It's, it was just too of attention on me. If I was on the escalier,

he cried my name, and all the people would get back me care, because he was fashed,

because he had left the girl, you know, it's all the stories of adolescents. It's too

of attention for you. Yes, and, you know, I had, I had, I had,

an permanent, and I had, cordar, and the girls japped after me because I say I'm like a caniche.

But this possibility that of me queurian had so much he'd have done at their 2 second on their

one, they're saying, hey, it's a beau who's got, you know, they're coming to see,

they're going to be all the people, they're going to get a little, he's not quite, they're

not quite, it's normal, it's there, they're not there, they're not over repercussions to it,

but I'm going to be at the school, and I'm overmissed, in starting of the auto bus

I'd want to I'd like I'd like I'd like to do you know because I'd like to do you know

because I'm doing my mother and then I'd go to buy some the machines at chips at bomb et cetera I'd

I'd be the plus that I could be able and I'm so I'd be a lot of books, but I'm

not much because it would have to I'm in case and then I had to be in my course I'd never

arrive in return to my course because if I'd before the door of other

class I would say, I would have who cried, hey, it's my car! And it's just too.

It was just too. It was too for what I would have got to be able to be able to do you know. Is there?

Is there someone at the school did? I'm a surveyoral that's a pastoral

who had, he tried the most possible to me aid. And when I got the immobilii

he wanted to get a place, and he was to come up, and I'm and I'm doing it

while I had done he did, hey, we had never understood why you didn't

get to the school, it was terrible what she was in my mom and she had like,

she had been talking, she had been able by a mother who had been with her, but they said

to say, Mikea, you have to get to end up, you know, you can't be able to

get that, it's just , you know, let me get them, it's not it's not me,

I'm not like that, I'm going to come the world, I'm not not like my mother,

I'm not not rough, I'm too, she, she she she thought that I was just

too douce and she she had a lot of she had seen after she I'm not

a carapace and I had not more the character so she she thought she was she was

she had a preise of conscience of their of their pleasure of your she had

she she said she's she's she she's my mother had always

been very tough can't even during with me because it's she's what she

it's me memeur so because at some moment she she has that to be

hard with someone, it was perhaps not necessarily the good thing, it's all depending on

of the personality. And she was on it's not her fault, but it's that young, I've made

these tentative of suicide. And, you know, it had to go to her and I refused to

her own in my chamber, because she was not of her and it had been

to be like that, and she had been being able to say after after,

but when you're a mom, it's not difficult. But who was there for

my grandmama My grandmama My mother My mother My mother was But I was too Dous I had not

But you Manifested not No more Oh and far You know When you When you Revenue to the

Empleor necessary To be Yeah But my My mother She said She said You know

Sometimes It's sure To see It's sure to It's Yeah Yeah It's like

Yeah He'd Remastered in a Cair He'd be Arrette To get

My mom She said when you were secondaire. But you did it did not. I didn't not, I'm not done, you know,

I'm not saying it's not that it's a solution not but I'm not but I'm but I'm because she

has buched for her to arrive where she has a super good job, she has really she has really

bushed she, she has worked she's separated with my father, she was a

baby again and she had all she had all put for that she she wanted

that she was that she was a a bitante like she but there's a lot of a lot of

a lot of a big of experience. Yes, some of it sometimes it's it's a time you

like it had created a model. Yeah, exactly. It's for that I never

wanted, and I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm bad, no. But,

I'm talking, when we talk of depression with the ados, I'm so,

the symptoms of an depression of an adolescent, or of sometimes, sometimes, it's different

of the cell that we're going to continue to functioning, it's not but he

functioned not, but he functioned not, exactly. I'm, I'm sure to prayer at anything.

I'm not at the house. But at the whole, it's a good reason to me shicaning

with my mother, there had nothing that, I'm in front in my

time, I was always been someone who had always been not to say, I'm I'd want to go to the school, it's all right, you know, my first

tentative of suicide, it's been so. My mother would have been forced to finish my assuette. I'd remember. We, we'd have to do spaghetti. And I'd want to eat my plate, you know, and she'd have been fin, you know, and she said, you know, my first time, and I said, a day, I'm going to suicide, and he said, like, seriously. But, she thought it ridiculous.

It was a spaghetti. But it was all the way than the spaghetti. It was not the spaghetti, the problem. So, it was the goutes the goutte. It was all the rest. It was just the rest. Like, I had no control on my life.

I wanted to have a control on my assyette. I wanted to have a lot. So I'm on top and I was avowed all the pillol that there was in the pharmacy. All right,

all, all, all, and I said, and I said, and I said, and I said, I said, to see,

I'm saying, to have seen up, an hour, I tap an hour to all the world, I just, just got to just,

just like, it's like, and it's like, it was like, it was, you know, it was, it was, it had been

always in trying to me fash, to have some of the contradictions about her

when she was really she was really much because she didn't not for her it was impensable

I had all what I wanted I had a one, I had a house

I was goted but it was not that I'm that I didn't

in there she she had she had she had been she was

she had been really fancied against me at this moment that, she didn't not,

and when I came to me back, I was refused, I wanted to be able to be able to

be very difficult in my life, so I'm an adolescent a little,

Vid. I was shirient for all ato, but when I was to get

at the house, I'm rageous, arneous and vid. But that

you said my first tentative to suicide, because there have had

done, I think, two others. There one time, I know that the pillory not

it would be in the hospital, they'd have to be able to get to start all the time, I'm always, I'm in the brages blanche in the time

that. It was, you know, the brush tachshed of charbon, you know, so I'm saying, okay,

that's not so I've seen, in a film, I've passed the night, my mother that's never, I said,

I've passed the night, the night, the feet, in the night, he died, to see, and you see,

and that, you'd be finished by more to die, to get, So I was going to pass the night. I had a balcony at my door at my chamber. Passed the night, the feet in the night, the feet, in the day.

In saying, you're going to be tired and partier at a moment of the night. I'd be tannied. All right. All right. All right. And I'd say, well, person will be fashy if I'm mad at a malady. It's better than, ah, she's going to be able to be able to, I'm going to be able. So, it's a lot of space in your head.

Oh, my God, yes. And, again, there, you know, I've got to, you know, I've got to my... my books, my my calli of the writing, I was like, I was like,

I was an S-O-S-ambulant, really a S-O-S-O-S-ambulant. I had had been to feel these emotions strong, because

I was in there, I was very bad in the exterior to react to and how we do? How do you

do you know, how we can't get to me on that, sincerely, I'm, I don't know,

I'm going, I'm going to live in the sole to my grandmour at 18 When I got my 18 years, I'm going to have my 18 years, but still there, I've always had these tendencies

depressive. The depressions seasonia, I'm, I've only had all the time. I don't know. The day where I've had my my children, we'd say, it's all right. I'd have d'Octer than what I'd something that'd be a sense.

Yeah, that'd have a sense to my life. It'd have to fight for my children, that's for them, and it's been, naturallyly. But just as I've had my parents, I can't say that I've been the person the most sane

to the world and the people, at what at the moment it's happened in your life

that's been in the family really constant of the good friends friends I have

I had some that I'm there, but the people to be I'm

I'm that who they're in my life long after

from 23 and 24 and for it's for that

I was pretty all all right, and I'm just being with me, I used to be very much,

I'm going to what you're doing what you're to do you're to do you're to do you have a great void?

But it had failed to the meubble this that moment of I'm I'm trying to be

there for the other and it's that that's that me that I'm I'm

I'm in in the so that so to be able to be there and

to help it it's a feeling of the Fier T, I felt that I'd serve

to something also. That it was because of my youngess, from my genese. Primair, I was in trying

to aid to all the all the time. There were there were, we'd call it in the time, it was the

day, I said, it was the there was there's a point of they're going to get to be

still able to do you put to do you to help in the class that to help, I'm with a few, it's not

fast, it's not fast, but I'm trying to to get to the but that was all young, it was in

second, three-year, because you were in the time? Yeah, so, so my life,

I had used to be able to be able to be able to the time, all the time, it's the sole

thing that that I had to when I talk, so when I this sentiment, I've had

very, very young. And, you see, I would say, I'd would say, I'd say,

I'd say, you know, in the sense that I had been in my young, let's,

six and more, who have made in that I've been someone who had been troubled in the life. My mother

was separated it was not easy, like my both were not super well. It's been able to

your fondation. Yeah, enormously. And my mother, she, she, she,

she's like, I'm all made for that it's time, no, even when you're young, you know,

you know, you know, you know, the kids are more brilliant, that we're playing, the parents are So it's really

really really really like you do my foundations, and by the following,

I think it's made in sort that I'm never been very stable. I'm a lot of

stability even in being in being not, I'm not, I'm didn't,

I'm feeling, it's not very, you know, I'm not talking, and when I

know I'm talking, it's because I'm in the end up the rule of the people,

so the people couldn't not necessarily and it and it's there the moment when I'm

I'm inle the life because I'm tanned. When you see your kids' when it's it's been

to live the infance of your parents? Yes, really. And, you know, I see,

I'm my Anna, who I'm old, and I'm I'm too, I'm too, and I'm really,

because my mother had rough with me, like her and her and her and be

too, it's these patterns that's reproduce, and I'm super-dus with my

child. You're at the I'm trying. I'm really at least. I'm I want to

he can't be able to be able to get a little more rough my charm is a little more strict

I'm not I refuse I'm not is not capable Is that is a reparate that? I think

that we I think yeah, I think that way Mark Lord but I'm really made a

cuture in my life in my life before to have there's some

it's a life that exist not if you're I'm talking, I know I've seen

I'm but it's in a other life at a part of the moment where I

have had been to get to be in life to have a view to have

a part of that it's a other moment but you know

I'm you know you said I I've I've quite aid

the other and it and it has with a responsibility

to help of the children, there's some of the love, but it has been

also with a great responsibility. Yes, I know, I know I'm going to be able to

be able to make a difference in the view of the people, I'm need more than to receive it's the

only thing that's all you're all in your time, but in the same time it's

perhaps not for the good reason you know, I'm I'm doing because it does it

because it's me did I'm not I'm not, I'll do do it's for the other

I think so the fun, but I'm fun, but I'm for doing, you know, one of the first, you know, one of the interview, I don't know this example, with Yvonne Descham, on, on the don't know if it's someone who's implicated all his life, among the chenon. And I said, but it's what, you know, that's the most great motivation, he said, it's the, you know, it's a lot. And the consequence, it's

it's just do good to other. But he said, I've said, I'm granded

there to be because I'm too much because I'm saying, but I'm saying, but in the whole, you're

and I'm saying, it's like, it's like it's like it's like it's important, it's important, but in fact, I think,

you know, I, I think, I, I'm talking, I realize that it's correct to do it for what's not correct

is because you're a because you're a reason of there's like a difference There's a it's at the exterior,

you know, you're going to validate what you do you know, the people who are always in doing to do the

good, but that's not that's not because that's not something that's not something that's not it's not, it's not

it's not it's not for the good reason. But because it it's not, you know, if it's not doing it, I'd feel not, which is logic, but it's just a good to see the people, it's good, it's good, it's just, I don't know,

I don't know, you know, but that's what, you know, but that's what I feel both, it's justly to have a don't to, you know, to help, but not to have to have, you, that's it, you're right, you're there, there's a reason, the P, is someone who, yeah, but, yeah, I'm doing, well, there, we're, there, we're, attend, we, let's, yeah, we're

They're not to tell to tell what he's because he does because he's done to say,

he's fine that's good. Yeah. I mean, I do you do you do it

in the anonymity to help to help and then there's a lot of I said,

well, you know, but you know, I just, I just, it's just a number

that I'm that's already that's already so, pose me not the question in an omission

to make a because I don't, because I'm not, I'm not yeah. I'm not

I'm not, I'm going to aid the world, and after that it's finished, they don't need to be their problems be made in the

end of the no, no. It's not a necessity, they're doing, they're doing, they're reconnoisseant to the rest, I'm not

so, I'm trying so, so you're more, you your life actual, than the 203,

204. Oh, my God, 100%, I'm totally not stable. It's what the image when I

when I'm you've been, but you've written a letter, but let's make the chapter of this

period, that. My mother would say always, you know, you're a ton of marde to put you to

do you do with it's really that's really so. I'm trying the trouble for me feel like

it's like it's a chapter on, I am the trouble like the trouble

me, me, me, me, do you think that? Do? Is it

is that you think she have a reason to say? One percent. I was morted

interiorment. I had nothing, not of little, not the to resentire an emotion,

he paled that I would have to live these things forth. It was the only way

that I think I'm that I'm going to be my couple because I'm having to make to be in life

the little little no no no no no no no no I'm not I'm not

for the other it's exigent oh it's exigent it's for that you you're saying

that you're saying that you're a good person because I didn't help me because I'm

time, for my my mother, ay, ay, ay, I'm I'm trying, because she

never, she'll be able to be able to be able to do you, if I'm if I'm

an, I'm listening to know, you know, Buffy against the Vampire? Well,

yeah, okay, but, let's, let's, the bough, the boot, where Angel

he mar, yeah, I, I'd listen, and I'd and I'd and I'd , and I was

mal for her, I, I'd live for her, I'm but it gave, in life. I had the impression

to have an emotion. You imagine? And to know these people, asses these characters that? Oh, yes. It had parted to your own. He mebleed your life. 100%. So, I mean, I could listen all the series

possible, because I lived over these characters. I used these lives, and I felt at the end of the end of the book, I had a mal. Because it I had been in life. I

had a reason for the emotion forth for to resentire the things. Maybe you can't be clear

many the people who are in the time because it's not so it's not so it's not

not a lot of yeah. And I'm a new when her feet, he's a bit like I'm like I'm

like I'm like you're I'm like you're like you know what I'm like you I'm like you're being

finished don't see the time don't see the time so present don't you give you the

don't see the good news let me she's like number one she's super she has been she has a

good job she's a little job at her chum is sen. It's not everyone who, you know, that's, you know, a, you know,

a life perfect at and who continues to let me, your life will be not quite easy, and you're kind of being

finish, we're all we're all right, we're not always on the road of the life. Oh, no.

Uh, sometimes we're we're trying, we're trying the panos who will be indicted the road central,

and we're repair, and we're correct, this chemines, and sometimes that we're sometimes,

that we're to get to meet to meet some of the and when when we're going to get the road

we're in 100% and all the whole of the person that's I'm doing I'm doing to be comprehensive

to have to have the empathy for the people I'm, I know, I see, I know what you know, I just

I know because I've been because I've lived too I've used so on life before to have 20 years.

It's fool to come So, at after that before to have 202, 22, Well, I understand.

Did you, have you fatigued in the 20tham? I'm sorry, I'm not. Now, I'm fatigued. Because, you know, we've got, and then we've got to beaverage remount to the surface. Some, now, I'm fatigued. Sometimes I'm like, okay,

like, I'll be able to be a little break. I'd like to dream. I'd like to drink, I'd like to do with time. Yeah, I'd say on pause. Oh, yes, 100%. I'd say, but like a six-month-to-time. You'd have a sweat to be able to do. A day.

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Joan, Micah, you will me and give me on four, so you please. One, two, I'll let them read. You're still on choosing one. And I'm going to choose one. It's the last time that I'm going to choose.

Okay. What do you apport the maternity? What have you in common with your mother? What type of amourous is you? What is you not received to your family and who's that you've been

the part of the maternity? Yes, because it's the most easy of the bonoer, a lot of good of bonner, and a reason to live. 100% of reason to

live. I know that we should all we're at the base a reason to but I'm not this reason that before to be

to be in-saint. And my my children have saved. Chacon of my life had been

in my life. I was born in my previous 17-year-old, baby-pillule. I'd not well

it's all good, it's all the but, like, I was not someone that's

not someone, I'm not, I'm trying the trouble by-si- by there. And when I'm coming

in-since of Haydn, I've had a reason to live, a reason to make, an reason to

me bat, you know, I'm batted, you know, for he's happy, who so, for me Hayden, it's like,

he's like, he's like, is going to do you know, when you've seen, is that you've seen

that's seen that rapidly? Well, I was a young, I had 21 years, so on the

course, it's on the after that, I've listened the song Pussiard

of Ange of Rianne Mofat, and then I said, no, It's not... You know, a

song that's a word of, Yeah, of the abortment and I said, no, I'm not prepared

to think to at this song that, to listen, not to say, it's the proof that I will be

to get to this and that, and at after that, he was at a pen formed in

my vound, I was, I'm a mother, so the maternity me have brought

that. Anna, I'm I'm coming enceint with my conjue, with my

little fift, we're in the universe. We knew that she had to be anna. And one of the first I was

my conjoint my conjure had a problem of the consumption. I'm rested with

him at the cause of the fact I was that I'm ince but

Anna my had turned right and I got strong

I didn't and and I had Anna because I was because I

wanted for his father and the maternity again

one once, I gave the force that I didn't know not.

The maternity has made to me someone of me more, and I'm and then

she has six years, she has just been, and Olivia, it's a baby, you know,

I'm due to have to have when I don't have to have,

Olivia, you know, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure of my

couple with Etienne. It's it's so-so, you, I think, we're at seven a seven, you know,

sometimes we say the seven you're trying enormously, and she came after that, she'll solidify my

couple, solidified my life of family, and each of my family, and that's

a lot of a lot of my life, but for solidified, is there has been a, can't

a, it's not just his arrival, it's what the arrival represented to say,

you know, you have a , you know, you have a moment that. It's that I didn't know we've been

we've got to think it's a problem of consumption he's a problem of it's not, so I'm in trying to talk about yeah, you're not

you know, it's already, you know, we're talking about some people, there's a lot who don't, or who they know, but

he's read a book, he has done, he has made a documenter. But if you had not been in so I'm

you'd have left I'd let's, you'd let's, and he'd like, he'd be sure, if you'd have been there,

but you'd be there's been and it's very clear. He also, he's a talk in his life, he

had made a tentative of suicide. I'm I'm still there. I'm never lost. I'm just someone,

he's been to say, I've been a bonn, he's pogned the mother Teresa. And you

have a reason to do it and I'm I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm, but at a

moment of when you, when you, when you, when you, when you one of the big problems, the amor

suffie not. The moment you decide to to save, you know, you're not to get to get to

get to get to get the energy, time that I'm going to be fight for him, and I'm

and I'm and I'm to fight for the father of that's a and that's that's brought also to

my couple. But I had fatiqued after. At a a modern there, you know,

there's a energy, you're still the energy, you're still the stress but there he had

been and I realized that could that there was more of cicatrice non-giried

than I thought that our couple went a little less than I'm in in front of Olivia

like I'm like I'm sorry you're not wanted I'd have not could program that and then

I've been to say hey we can't we can't we can't get a family

and see separate that it's not that we're not not with his conjoin

just because we're not able to sit to say, is we can repair what's been casted,

what has been maganed? Yes, is what we do it that's the question? Yes,

we're not, because we're because we're still, but we're being tired, we're at a boot of

suffol, of all of all of suffice. Vink, the dependence it's not easy,

to be with someone who's to win their dependence, it's not so it's correct

to be fatigued. But is if we have the desire to get to start in time

couple? 100%. So, Livia has made that. So, so I think my

children have been there for something. I just I think good to have made a bit

I'm a bit emu because I like I'm really have brought that. A force.

It's so, we know, we know we know we're all but to see

at what we can be far and for them, it's so you're not an

child we're not that you can't understand that you trage, the interior. Today, when you see with Etienne,

the children, how do you describe this family that? We're not always easy, we're not a couple perfect,

we're not we're not there, and it's correct. And I'll do sometimes to find my chum, and he

me'll say he said, he had a couple of me, you're like, I'm onue

to my blonde. You're there there's there for the people, you're there for your time,

and I'm I'm ennue, you're not there for not for our We're capable to say and that's a

great thing and you're right and you're able to more grounded so we're we're not

not perfect long of there but we're beautiful in the sense that but who who is perfect

yes it we're we're we're up we're we've got we've got we're on

but I think we're a belle force, we're a great something that's imbriquet on both you're

parted the two Oh, my God, yes. Yes, really. We have a story that had not been easy, and then, we know that's a lot, we've that's been easy

and that's been beautiful. You know, we've, we've had some problems of couple, we've had some problems of all over to

all, and then we know, we know, the beauty it's all right, the beauty? The beauty, is the calm.

There, I'm there, I want, to get more when I was more young, I'd want to have to have these emotions,

all, I just the that's beautiful, that's calm just that your essence of the

yeah, exactly I'm I'm ready at a state of my where I'm out of the sky and I watch

the sky and I'm going to go to go to go and I'm going to get in 30 minutes

to the place I'm going to come and I'm to go to the sky I'm looking at

my life I'm I'm going to have been to savouring every every time a bit period

Yes, it's a very beautiful period. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to you're talking

what you have you in common with your mother? The force we're two women

she is very very very strong and she she has leged that

me and it has done also this force that a little more in the

but there are two women who have a drive when we're something we're to do something, we can't to have to

attain our our lives. She's separated my first my first my first girl and my first girl's, my

baby, I'm separated there was 11 months. So it's been a very, very difficult and it's

done that I've had 21 year, and she's separated with my father, she had 21 year, and

she had been going to pass over of these things and I think that's something we're in

common to be able to find this force that for to advance. It's kind of something

of the force. Yes. It's because sometimes when we're strong we're not vulnerable.

No, no, I'm the opposite. I'm really the opposite. I'm

I'm not capable of other things than what I'm you're authentic. You're not. Your is it's

been able vulnerable? No. No, my mother, it's not vulnerable. My mother, it's a woman who is strong. Is she would like that she wants that she wants

vulnerable? In ageing, it does. In ageing, it's it, but, let's on more young, she's been elevated in saying that to be able to

see, it's letting the people, the people will be able to attend with it. It's done to do you, it's an ancient mentality

also. Yeah, but there are more who thinks like that you don't not vulnerable, you're not vulnerable, you're

Because sometimes, it's that when we're When we forget to protect these persons because we're saying Well, she's like, she's That's what I'm going to happen with her With my grandmother, I think

Like I said, like I said She was totally And my grandmother, she She was too rough She said, well, she can She can't be on She can't be like that For my mother

For my mother, She's a far For her, she's a fratry Because my grandparent It's a lot, For that's a lot, But she's a lot for everyone But I've been like

It's like that also For my chum, for my children. So, you know, we, we have really that's in

common. It's a great thing, but there there's a way that you have a lot of people who are in

the way for us I don't know, I'm not, I'm able to get to have to have to see, I'm

quite. Is that an apprenticeship? Yes, and, you know, I'm not my parents,

my, my, my parents are capable to demand to the aid, they're not in the, they're not in

the, what's the thing, if you say, you say, if you're, oh, Oh my God, well, I had

scared of being Fable. It's really just that. I'm not feeble. I'm not feeble, I'm fat. I'm able to do far. Yeah. I'm a wonder woman.

And, you know, during a good moment, I don't know if you're resented that, the women had completely, but yes, but it's not so long time,

it's a piece of movement that's a space of movement that's arrived, say, hey, there, there's a lot, you know, we have the right to say,

we've come been away with the balancation because we had there's great, and it's correct, and there's still

but we're still, but we're still, we're also, we're also, we're also, we're saying, it's something,

being a parent, there, being a parent, it's, with the market of the school, the charge mental,

the, you know, the children when they're in the school, the dovors, you know, there's, there there are many

there, they're doing when they're doing, because they're at a bout, ban, So it's like that, and I'm

still in the Apprentice. I'm not Wonder Woman, and I'm not Wonder Woman, and that's fris certain people sometimes around me,

sometimes on the web because they're like, well, you know, you're like to do it all right, and I'm not Wonder Woman. But it doesn't

because you do it's all that's all right. Yeah, it's so, and I try to it's not faxious.

Because your time, I don't know how it's how it's sometimes I'm really, yeah,

it's really, really, it's really really courtyer immobilized, you know, it's because... 20-time, I'm doing... But it's so, because, let's turn in radio, I'm sure on your

radio, I'm saying, but she's, but, you know, I've got a lot that's not, it's not to what I'm doing at a time partial. Well, no, it's so, but it's,

it's, like, to understand your life. But, in fact, I, I'm sure doing the things myself, because I,

because I, I, I'm not to, I'm not, you know, I'm trying to tell you, it's not it's not, it's, it's not,

it's because I I want to be to do you have to be able to be able to be and a way to be in my manner.

So I know to see, I'm trying to let's pass some of the choice which is not easy.

So I'm so I'm so I'm do the radio the day I'm in all the house and

I don't know to the grand desosport of my chum who is like myca after that you pete

a house because you fatigued I'm you propose that someone for who us help.

No. Personn who will elevate my and I'm at that's it. It's like I'm a

head of there's a bit of course. I'm but I'm that people need a lot to understand.

I'm not they're not that's the running gag they're doing they're doing and they know that

they're sure that's that's too fatigued but I'm we're not all the time. I go

not in restaurant, I'm not I'm not probably not I'm not in the cinema at par

rarely, I'm not other things that my children, my family. Facil, in this time there, there are plenty of people

who are going to eat in the restaurants all the people who go to make and they're doing,

my time, my time, is to do to do the TV and the radio. All right, I just chose my

time. And is there's something that you don't, I think not. I'm really

really really really. There are some where I'm just to have a moment let's

a two day by month. I'm going to go to go to the spa. There's

a lot of you can't do do you know to do you know if you're not sure I'd like that I'm saying

I'm saying I'm trying to say it's supposed because our partners I'm not sure in fact my chum

there a couple of years he made he made you know make of Spaceman you're going

to go to Spaceman I'm you're pretty a two year there you're decompress

relaxed relax You know, to me to say by my medicine that I was doing a depression, I started some of the antidepressure and he said

like, for you do it for you do it get to be there's a lot, and you're not to play with the room,

there's not nothing. So, so I'm like, I'm going to do that, hey,

I'm going to my mother me said, my car, it's a cardo that you're made, if you're in

a cause, you're in a house, and I'm no, no, I'm going to go back

I'm going to the little chimes on the Spaceman, you have these little chimes

to run-doney in the forest and then I said, okay, and as far, I said, I'm saying,

I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm going to get to the table, and you're going to

say, well, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm going to the music, and when I'm going to be too

bad, you know, I had been to all, and it had been to be able to do that,

and it's a few every year in fact. Ah, but it's extraordinary. You know, a three

night, you know, I've never done, I'm trying to I'm trying to yeah, I'm at a moment of I'm saying, you know,

I'm trying to my universe, quite, right, just about TV, not the, but it's it's like,

the respirations become more profound, it's really to really to get to for so much that's the

time that you don't know, and you're just that's a thing, you're not your phone, you've got

no person to talk, the go of the food of you will be the time to remark

that I'm I'm going to my boucher and I was like it's like it's good because I'm

concerned only on the sense that it it's it's it's a meditation of

plenty of conscience oh yeah I I know I'm but I'm but it's

that to take the time that you you know you're you know I did so

it's not like it's not like it's it's not it's a object you see

to to look to appreciate, to want the texture, the gout when I crock in my palette, you know, you do that, you do it feel, without the without, and, let me turn, I go ahead, and I just had, and I,

it was just a tartar, no, do ton, in other case, I'm really, too, I'm really, too, manged, I'm just like, I'm just something as good, and, yes, it was good, but, it's that, I'd preen the time

to gootet chakene of the saver, because I was not occupied, to think to other to look at other other things, to listen to someone to talk,

I had just that's a far. One point, one time a year, but I'd like that's all more often. I mean,

I mean, I mean, I mean, he's always to say, my care, go see, if it's a

time, you know, like, you're not, you know, to be in the same, but I'm not,

because I'm saying, oh, my God, I'm there, I'm there, I'm not there, I'm not,

I'm not, they're not, like two years every two months, maybe they're a

quite, they're quite so they're very correct, we're doing, because, you know, they're in security,

are not in danger, they're they're safe, they're not, you know, they're secureized and the , you know,

I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, two years, it's not insurizing, there's,

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Niveau-Rose. You give me three cards, so you'll please. So, now, it's more difficult, it's so? Well, it's too tough since then to, already. And, well, Well, what is your

rapport with the war? At which I'm profound Etienne, respond, what period of your

life was the most improupant? Maybe you're talking to that's the period of the period of that's my

genese we'll go we're going and we're going to take you do you get to

your limits physical or psychological? I'm I'm I'm over the four

cards. Oh my God. You're respond to you're to respond to only

a psychological, I've been a little reposued with Etienne But it's like, Etyen, but in the same time,

yes, and no. The period that had been the most improupant in my life,

oh, no, we've responded, with, when Eitian didn't get my

rapport with the death, okay, we're at what I'm, at what time,

profound, Etienne, respond, so, that's my question, Janet, Bertran.

Yes. Because Jeanette, she's super important to serve as well. What's the need profound? What is that this fire

at the interior? My stability. Etienne, my stability, it's my stability, it's my rock. He is not perfect,

but I know that if I'm there, he will be there. I know that even if he's separate, he will

always be there. In the sense that it's fundamentally mentally a good person, you know, there are some of the

default, but not not to be present. If I'm there's always there, if it's not, he's going to

be the first at courier and to be there to be in the past where we're not sure if it's

like, it's like, it's like, it's not we're saying, even if you decide to me let's,

you know, even if you're going to be able to say, I think that I'm maybe to

let's, you're not that I'm you let's, and I'm and I'm saying, I'm going to always be there same, I'm going to

be able to be but you know, I'm not going to make you know, like, okay, you know, you know, you know,

you know, it's really that, so, so, you know, like I said, my mother and my father, they're separated

like, like, many, many of parents, it's not been easy. It's had made in

sort that sometimes I saw, I saw, I'm probably that you'd make of stability at the

level affective to the side of my father by my mother, she had

had a party, it was for me, there were not stability. They'd he'd

and he'd and he were back, he'd he'd, it'd not a model,

for me for me. I've always had these men, my father is incredible,

it's not by a part of my , it's by a separation with my my mother. But I be it

not, it's me that I'm going to say, so. So, Etienne, I know who is there. All the time. All the time, too. Is it the first person in your life that you know who's all the time? That's not, your father and your mother? Yes.

100%. The other person who I've lived in my life, I know if there were something that crak-ed, if you'd did a little bit, if she had just me domped. So, it felt that I'd be perfect. It's always.

All the time of the pressure. All the time of the pressure. Zero. How can we feel when there's no pressure? Libre, so on. With him, I know, I'm at 100%

because he was never judged. Never, never, never. At the contrary, I'm just more than he can do it's very

sane. And I think that's a good model also for the children. And we're chicaned not really, it's very rare

that we chicaned. It's like, we know, we we're trying when it's going to be with the problems that had,

but we're not going to front of the kids, and we're not the reason to see chicaning. When it

comes, oh, okay, there would be a trouble at some it's a two times a year,

we're not two times per year, we're not, you know, and it's also that you're there's a

life after the life after the because, you know, there are there there who are there who's there's a pen, you know,

because it's it's hard accompanied. Yeah, And, you know, there are two points. A lot of people who make when their conjoint go not bad,

problem of consumption, et cetera. Maika, how did you do you have to rest? What's the do you have? I have a chum

who had quite with me in the sense that he has never left the tone, he has never levy the arm on me,

neither the children, he had never anything made against me. It's at him. You know,

I mean, I had a little like the story that I said with my mother, I subissed the repercussions

of his trouble indirectly. Indirectly. Yeah. He never had wanted me

and never he had made, you know, he was not conscious of all that. And I

would say I'm saying, if I don't know, yetian, it's the man of my life, so I

'm fighting because I see that the day where he consume not, I'm

I finish my job with him with he. F' But, as I said, there had not

other things. He was blessed very, he was over he was he was he made to do mal, he made by me

didn't do a lot of so I'm, so I'm trying to let's not in a relationship if your conjoint

when he was when he's on the bar to be aggressive, when he liquid the count conjoin, it's very,

very different. You're not toxic? No, Etienne, not would be not at the house

when he had consumed. I was never view in consumption. He parted, let's on, let's see on a char, and he would have even not me call, he wanted to be like I'm

like that. It's very, very different, I'm, it's for that I did, I subduced the countercoup of his problem, but I'd never seen, but I'm never seen like that. It's for sure that I've stayed, and I've wanted to let's see me, and the children. It's important in the equation. Yes, it's very, very important.

And for him, there's a life, yes, after the consumption. And, I don't know

I'd ever if I was in a while he had kind of he had been a battle long,

and I couldn't, the last he went to in desintox I'm, I'm at boot, really,

at boot, to his consumption, and there, I'd know, he'd be in desintox,

he was going to be going to get to get used on the day, the day,

the day, the day, when he went to in desintox, I mean, I remember this story again again

again, it's not something that Katie would be able to that's important for me that's important for

me that people at trembling, it was all the night, and the night, the night, he's not

he decided to part on a balloon of consumption. But Anna was young and she had had been in

during the daughter. I had been to get to out of the restaurant, he had to get to

that you can manned to make the he's never returned. I've had had hurled

all the night. He's not the phone. When he there's a home

to you, he reponded to the telephone. And there, we're in the last of the

night of in collaboration with Tramblant, he came to good, it's for the course

of ski with Anna and Etienne. I'm really sorry Etienne, I think Etienne

and Anna they've got got used to meet where you because you don't say because you

don't say, excuse he's not entry of the night. And there, I go to interior, I'm at. Now, I'm scared. It's supposed to be a

mom in family. I'm ecorre. It's my auto that I've decided that I parted and I let's a tremble to soul. That's it, that's all. He has finished

someone, because me, I don't know not. Repel me not after, I'm at at the boot. There were there had been past the night

out, you know, it's so, the consumption, you're on, you know, you know, and when he entered in des Intoxes

he called and he refused to be talking when the house Jean Lapporte me called and they said,

listen, madam, it's the end of the week, where they're like a conjoin

and conjoint for their show, they're to look, how to the person, I'm,

I'm, for real, I'm not two years to be consacred. I'm sorry. I'm two

years, it's the time with my my children, I've already I've got to be able to you know, he's done to be able to. I'm going to be able to, I'm going to do.

And I'm saying, the day where I'm not in there, I'm not forced not. When he's out of des Intox, I'm not going to get to get to docks, I'm not going to and I'm trying to. So, at from there,

he said, okay, she's finished. If I'm not, if I'm replasts not, it's finished. And I said, you'll come, it's cool. I don't know where I'm still focus on my

my fee and my son, it's all. But he, in the same time, in des Intox, we've learned,

you know, you have to you're trying to now. It's plait, it's put that you and that's

and that they're not to be in their right to be in the and you have to be that.

Yes, it will be to find to be a pain, but you do you know to learn

to take to be to make to the front, you the priority. he has become his priority

and it's that he's made in sort he's not he's put in after he's because he had been to be a yes-man

he has arreighted to want to to be able to and get to get to get to and he's centered on him but

I'm just centered on me also it's like we're not that we're because the two, we've decided to

be a priorise it's not easy in the time that but it's what he had to that he was that he'd

be able to be and she's like he'd be able to and she can't come in together, and that we're what we're what we're

now. It's a big story but all the ambush, there's the love was there.

The love had always been there. But I'm like the impression because you were ready

to say, it's perhaps it will not more that you you're made without a time.

It's to say that you're letting to let's get the and finally it had been reconnected

because if you had made a a pressure, it you'd make an impression to be the same

but you the talonet not. And when I had pached to him, I'd

get to get to get to get some in plain face, he was like myika, I'm

excuse for what I have been to do you know, we have we can't other

other other thing. I can't continue to have if you're to make if you're

in front of my, I'm crossed against you I'm really, I'm

because I wanted that's I want to see that's I'm would be

that all the it's correct, the people, it's got to, I'm going to, I'm going to if I'm trying, if I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, I'm trying to to put in plain face, all the time, and he said, you're to get excused, you can't

you can't be the rest of your job, because you're not there, you're not, because it's a main pressure

in the same, but at the same time, it's, to avoid your moment to get, we, we, we had been

to learn, but you're a life after that's, you're able to to pass to you also. Because it's

difficult for those who who's it's a time for example it's a time

it's a there's a there's a bit of there's there's to do you to do you

to the to be in to ask to call the police my conjo my he's not

yeah it's it's it's it's it's it's been it's intense

it's intense it's how it's how you it's how you're sobr now that

he's completely now we're totally we're still completely sub yeah

yeah just yeah um you I'm talking, and I look super-fort, but again, again, I've

made a couple in my life. That's a other life. We're going to say, it's applied to segmented the

parts of my life, like, and that's a chapter. Oh, the chapter is finished, I'm done in another chapter.

It's a mod of protection. Yes, exactly. So, there, presentment, I'm when we're

when I'm talking, but I'm not, let's, let's some, let's the flash constant, of what he

could be to be in front, I'm going to be there, and he's good to be able to go to go ahead, sincerely, he's sure

that's probably, you know, sometimes I'm maybe, you know, but I prefer this dependence, that, but he's been able to

have to be, he has done, he wants, he does do it and he's a father also, he's a he's a lot,

but when he's there, it's a father who's super present. You know, sometimes my mom, he's not,

he's not often at he's not often he's really a lot, well, no. I mean, it's my acceptation. I accept that

he's a lot of he's going to be in France, he has chate a hockey in France, he part of the year, he me demand always, is it correct that, is it correct, these dates,

that, while I'm going to my parents, and I take the positive of that, I pass some with my children.

It's trippant, I'm not I don't know that I'm present. And you see it also, this man that that you love

that you know, you know, in this effect. Yes, 100%. And when he He is there, he is present. He will enjoy at a cachette. He will play at a tag.

He will pass more of time at park when he is present that I can't pass during the year with my kids. He is there for real. So, I prefer someone who is there at 100% when he is there than he is there at 25% longarer of an year. But, you know, the couple, it's something of vivant. Yes. There are some phases, there are some periods.

The attends are not the same. If your children were still pretty, you'd have perhaps a other discourse by a lot. I've always been the same. You've always

have to be the same. Oh, well, I'm like in your I'm like, I'm in turn. When the

world are like, you're like, you know, I'd try to see, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, we're, we're,

we, we, but, you know, when he's, when you're in politics, I was always, with the people,

there were, there, but I was saying, in the house, I'm alone, I'm still with us old, and when,

when in 2009, we're all we're all to be in the same house all the time,

it's it's been it's a time to because for me, but you're not going to

go to yeah, yeah, but there's yeah, there's a functioning also.

We're all all the time that you part and you know, there's all the time an absence

and my people I'm saying hey, you know you know to find that's

too, but you see, I see my my fee that's a little

person and I mean it's it's right that it never it's You know, in the phone, when I think, I'm in the time,

I was very fatigued, during these years, but, I'm ennuied not. I'm, I was content. The so-we, we'd do this bricolage. We'd s'amus. It was the bordele in the house. But, my, God, there was a good hour.

It's not. I think not that I'd have lived, more, that's otherment. I'm a few who'd like to be all. The sole, the sole, that I accept long time, that's my parents. But, you know, you're, you're very forted,

you're protected, or if it's in so. In fact, not that you're protected, you're construed in a world interior. 100% that when you're alone, you're

in a lot of suffie. Yeah, I'm auto-suffie. Yeah, that's right. So, there's not a couple like, you know,

it's not that people, you know, you can't different couples, and say, well, yeah, I'm a bit of this,

a bit of this, I'm a bit of this, but we can't say, oh, well, I'd have been I'd ever be like this couple,

that, but you know, we, we're saying, we're, We are together, but person's the other would be able to

we're able to support. We see, we're really very well. But you're two escorched of the life. There's been

there's been there's been maybe you know, maybe you recognize also there. Yeah, and we're,

Etienne, it's my most grand fan. sincerely, you know, we're, we're

we're very, we see, there's never a moment of a moment of it, he's like, if I'm

a minute, you know, I'll give an example at the radio, They were going to say, hey, do you do you have to be in vacants? So I said, hey, we're in the time of the fair. You say, hey, we're up there.

Enjoy, go see. It's never complicated. Not culpabilizing. Never. That, I think that, that, that, in the couples, you know, there's the most. It's kind of the filet of security in a couple, it's seamed, but to sannemir, to be

to be respect and to be, and to encourage, to encourage to do, to encourage to do the things. Because there are some, there are one that's going to have to doubt,

and when you know, when the doubt it's in your house, hey, you know, you have you have to convince

the other? I'm, it's like, if you're like the other, you know, I guess it's a

moatier, it's your wife, it's your friend, my friend, my friend of my father of my own,

if he doubt of me, if he's not my big grand fan, and vice versa,

it will be sure, I'd never to advance, when you Convinck the person with who you're always in the

house of something, by a part to you know, it's not not going to be that's not when you're

going to open the door of your house, you have to be good. Yeah, you know, he's been

talking, you have already a life before me, and he was like, I'm so, I'm really

always, all the occasions, all the occasions were good to get, to say, I'm a day,

there's someone there's someone who's who you have a soup spaghetti for the club

sportive of three and more okay I'm going to be there, he'd let it's

all to know, because he was it's a good, it's not it's really if it's

a day, it's not good, it's not bad, it's not it's a thing I think I

think of a family of couple when we're when you when you're at the yeah,

and that you're not not the way to not because you're not the good to have no

to let's your cocan and your know your family it's because you've got to

just to justify. Exactly. That's like, you do the things, and it's like, it's... It's like, I'm not there for the

to be able to work. I'm not there to be able to do you know, and vice versa. You're not, you know,

to be in couple, it's not, I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not supposed to you're not supposed to t'empsych to do something.

I'm, I don't know when I'm saying, I'm at this place, wow, papillon, Well, excuse me, I'm not, I'm not that, my job my time, my time, my time, no, it's a, no,

it's not, I'm imping never to do something. I'd like he'd ever be able to do something. It's my best friend, and I think that's a couple. It's a little like a track of chame to fire. You know, let'sone that two tracts of chimes of fire that are like that. At the instant where it's, you know, you decide that you want to make sure, it's going to find an accident, me a day. You want to counter

these desires and it's a reason, accident assured. Accident assured. So, it's an open of the comprehension. Yes. To ask you, to ask you,

to take some percent. Yeah, 100%. And that's that's so, it's so much important to do it. Niveauce and company.

Oh, shit. We're in front of the the Nive Rose. I'm going to take a cart, cart. we'd say that we'll say we're in a bit of an adventure

So, So, what, how has evolved your intimacy in the field of Is you at least Oh, it's marked at light

But are you Alas With the nudity Would have you Would you Would you want to The sexuality At 20 years

Is that Is that a subject taboo in your family? It's still soft You can't I'd say what?

I'll change your job I'll respond with these short of phrases, a plane. Ah, well, because I

think that really interesting. Perfect. The sexuality has always been taboo in my family. We've never

talked. And at a moment of I'm a little little bit more year, and my mom came from

a little bit of that, and I'm going in a sex shop. And my mother had found it she, she

had a totally fuske so I'm in my head, it's like if I'm like the sex has always been

negativement. The first when I was a relation intimate, I was quite young, I had 14

years, I was quite young. And my mother had like sooted like,

it's like, if you don't un-saint I'm doing blah blah blah blah blah blah

like that for me the sex has always been negative. What me made

to how evolved to your life intimate for me for me the sex it was

inexistant you know often we've heard people I had

one night I've never had had a one night because the

sex it was not positive I could I could pass years without having without any

without it was not important if you had not no notion of pleasure for you no

because my mom she never never never ever I've seen I've seen I've seen people around me

to have been and have been so the sex for me it was negative because

you're in couple with someone who will have a sex with and it's going to be and it's

going to be able to be my question. My question was the sex is negative and it's negative and it

when you have a sex with someone you're to have a person and you have

some of the time you have if I'm if I'm if I'm in a relation with someone

it's because I have the emotions of the and they go because I can't

because it was personal because it's a point sensible in my life so young

that I'll forget that. I have a friendcheoze, but you're going to have a sex with me. Impossible. Impossible. So, you,

sometimes I'm saying, be there on, you're bad at gas. No. If we're not not together, we're not together, it's

impossible. So, you know, it's a price a month that's quite that's quite with Etienne, with the

father of Edon, I'd be sure that he'd really, and I'd not just an object for a night. In the same time,

it had brought to something positive, because I think that's changed a bit of the dynamic, they're after to be

to know, you know, we've got to me to know to get to get to get, it's not been quite

been quite difficult. It's been really difficult to do that in my head, that the

sex, it was bad because it made in a sort that you would be,

how I could say, it's a vulnerability. It's a vulnerable. for me, the sex. And it's not that.

Defer, this perception that's long. It's been very, very, very long. Really, very long. And I was not with the nudity.

I was chained. I'm not necessarily physically. I had fear that the people, because all my

young age, I was made to judge my cup of my teeth, my dents, I had some hair,

so I had the dents, all's imbriqued together So the sex for me it was taboo it could

to be made to make to be left emotionally and then if he was he made not physically

and it was it was a great vulnerability the nudity in the fact I'm I don't I don't

I'm not I'm in life and then and there it's real because I'm

it's I'm move so I'm too I'm I'm some I'm

some we're a little later it's not Eros, but it's all that. And I'd have

made so to know that's that's just a pleasure you're supposed to have the pleasure.

It's not an abandon. Yes, it's not a performance, it's not being vulnerable. It's

to the abandon of pleasure and it's not taboo, it's not dougalase. It's not to be a

trainee than to to have do sex with someone. It's all that's a

38 years. It's not right. I'm going to at 39 the month back. I'm sorry.

I'm 39 and I'm back with these things that. I'm back with

the sex it's correct. For me I have a chum I'm an love but I'm

always to be to be always it's not it's not always evident.

Is it is going to be in the sphere that of the intimacy? No, I'm a

man who really, he's he's really, he's he's really, he's reassurant.

He's reassurant, and it's all the difference. And, you know, he's never me judge. He me

me mean, he me, he's not and exteriorly and externally, how many times he can say, hey,

you know, that's that's true to be able. And, hey, I, I,

I, I, I, I, I, I, so, it makes in sort that

to be in like that, it's like that give me am, and when you're the papillon you have the

love to have the rapprochement. It's that that I had not before, you know, I had perhaps

not, there was people around to me to get in confidence. But, you know,

they're in getting to me to make in confidence at all all right, and then sometimes

I'm like, you have you have you have to be able, I'm not, you're not,

you're not, to be a feeling that's a No, it's that, but the intimate, the

sexual, it's a lanchetprice. But, you know, that I'm that you're in saying

that's enrageted, it's enormous because for me, the sex was something before, really of taboo.

We don't not of sexuality. You know, it's like I said, someone that's openly

someone who was an trainry. I had there, there had some prejuge. There were

some, and the prejudiced in the time, you know, that's prejudiced in the time, you know, that's... But that I've heard often in what you do, that, you're... Yeah, but often, it's a little more weird, because of the prejudgey, that.

Yeah, I'm just trying to... That's, like, remit on me, you know, in the 20thens, you know, one and a minute, you know, for me, it's correct. Not embracet person, not of sexuality, not anything. It's correct.

Not, not the stress. It didn't matter. No. it didn't, because I didn't because I didn't know what it was I didn't of what it was, and the sole

when I had had been after, because I had been tromped. For me, I don't want to sex.

The sex, it's all right to have someone and risked to let me and you're too. It's just

that. Today, today, it's what? Today, it's a way, a way,

an way, to have an proximity, to have an intimacyity, and to receive more of love and it's

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just to do you? Exactly, exactly. So,

but it's not a long time that's like, it's not long time, it's been so long time. It's been

so long time. It's been a lot of work, a lot of work, and it's quite,

you know, we say we're doing there's, there's, there's podcasts on the sex,

there's people people who people like maybe more of the difficulty, it's more more

more more, it's that it's a it's a quite a sphere that's a sphere that this sphere there's a lot

there's a lot of it's not simple but it's also a couple it's true it's, you know the time is not an issue

in a couple you don't not say after a year after six months after it's the

evolution of the couple I think I think more better than it's more than

it's more than the sphere of the intimacyity yeah so develop also,

it's refine, and, you know, the sexuality, it's changed or it's old,

you know, but, you know, it's a change or it's in the sexuality? But, I'm

said, I think my sexuality, my peak of sexuality, you know, I said, I said,

so, it's a bit more later. It's been that for me. But it's been different,

but at the instant where you when you're always, I've always been in the difficulty,

I'm really really really, my At the instant where I've to make me to, I'm trying to be cute. I'd say not to me to try to be able, but I'm trying to

accept who I'm sure. It's been more easy. It's been so much more easy because I'm not always in my head in trying to analyze what

and I'm trying to be able to spin enormously. Sometimes I'm going to get a little magic that that's not in the abandon.

No. In the abandon it's not easy. It's really not very not easy the abandon. I've been in the abandon

in my head it's not easy. Yeah, Because the, you know, the bisexual, the sexuality, to have the love, it's a lot of, a form of abandon. Yes. Yes.

And I think it's good, just the most of the podcast that's all, because I was like, oh, okay, to be there, it's not to be a chariot. You know, to have some pleasure,

and that's apparest in your visage, it's not to be a lady that's having a lady of porn. I don't know if you're trying. But I'm not in my head, and sometimes my friend who's there, but I care, the gnezzery

that's in which world, of the world you get? Because of you it's a bit like

if you play a role in your long time that's a time, that's to be a person

that you didn't even even not, well, it's not that I'd not be able to control

on what you resound to what you resound, it's a moment and on and so

what you receive? Yeah, exactly but I'm this, all, all,

all, all, to, all, to, all, to, all,

So it's for that I see that I've been you've got to be it's probably I'm going to I'm over because if I'm at the instant

I'm over you know, you know, you know how you can't you can't because it's true, you can't understand,

it's like you don't know a power to you're on on the other on you know, and you know, and you know,

I've applied rapidly at the adolescence I was someone that someone that when I had to get I anguassed

because I'm like oh my my God I just said plenty of things on and they're going to be able

to serve and they're going to be so many people I'm going to say to be in my my fee

no, not too, not too, the people going to be not the way, it's not the

same, it's not because we're not authentique no, it's so, it's so exactly,

so, we'll have we're going to you know, you've got to talk, after, there's, because you're

too, because you're too things on the radio social? Yeah, well, But I've,

during a bit of time, I've decided it's more because you're not someone in front of you and I'm just, and I like that when I'm fatigued, I'm not

to be arranging because I'm like that. I've talked also after my grossess of Olivia, my little last year,

I've taken a six years and I'm pretty, and I'm not in my car, and I'm I said, I'm not quite,

I'm talking to get over the against me, you know, to me say, ah, you're a shi-le-oise, but I'm shi-le-paw, but I'm not that I do, I'm just like that I'm there, there's a difference

between shioled and explain. Now, I've lost the weight, I'm a little how I'm per, not in the complete, because

I can't say that it's 100% sin, the way that I have lost my weight, and I don't know that I'm omit necessarily

but I'm but I'm explain, and there, the people don't want this explanation So I've become the Sible

you're not true, you're meanteous and then I'm re-refermere I'm saying and my time me say myka

you're not obligged you're not I'm like that I'm like that I've always been like that on the web I've always

been someone I've always I've been to be to be to be able by a part of

other things but you but the point we can't say it's complex if it's

complex without publicly because if you if you're take, you take to do you

don't if you're to pay, you're in there's a there's not, but you know, I'm not,

I'm saying, I'm sorry, but I'm saying, okay, but there's another who has a lot, it's because

I'm inatt after I'm in an attempt, you have, you had, I was, I was, the radio,

the way, let's get the the bill, the viscule and I had been much, and I'm

getting, you know, in the month of September, they've been said, you can't, you can't

be I don't get the grass, it's not to do you. And I was put opery in December after the radio and the

TV. So it's been very difficult, it's a risk, but at a time you have to pay the pot,

you can't get to get a but the judgment, I'm, well, let you know,

let's, but it's many, but it's many, yeah, no, that's that,

it's like I know that you know, that's like, that's not there, if you're on the power

that you're to pay the pot, you're doing you're you're doing always judged. When I had plus of poe, after my

grossess, I'm just too, I've done in a publication, you know, you're jolly, but, you know, not signed for that. Eton, don't know if you'd trompe a day. It's a face, and tabas, like, to do that. You can't even think of that.

And it's, it made some insecurities, there, there's gross insecurity. My job was, like, make-up, for real, it's, it's an ridiculous, okay, but, me, I'm insecure, like. After that, the one would write just, in-sue, gross. It was terrible. Oh, my God, you're

much more round than you're that you're trying in a lot, I'm just not good than I'm because I'm always, I've always had practically the same

weight. There, at one day, there had been a bit, and I had said to get a J. Maclean of the Backstreet Boy. And,

I was young, I was just a fan in the Backstreet Boy for me, oh, my God, I want to me to marry with Neckarter. I've always

to have a photo with one of the Back Street Boy. Now, I'm going to photo with AJ McLean. And then, you know, I'd have wanted to go to photo, and out, I'd have had out to let's have my photo with AJ McLean. And when I was viewed on,

I was not reconno. And then I said, that it's going to fair, it's aiding, until that. You can't tie it like that, it's impossible. So, you'd accept, comment, and you'd love, or, or, or, you'd probably the money necessary and then you change. But, now, you can't continue like that.

And that's been the declique in my life where I started to lose but it but it's a deficit caloric you know,

I've had been 15 livres the first time there's there's not other options than a deficit

calorie. So, so you manage more, you know, you're you're

more, you're doing, you know, after that after that the world, well, now,

how you're there, I've been, I've been a reset that I've made, and after

that I'm after that, I'd don't know the explanations because Because, yes, it has

functioned for me but if, if my my wife, me said, Mama, I'm doing my mind,

is I'm doing the same technique than what you have said, I'm not not always I'm not sure

I mean, I mean, I'm going to get a anxiety. It's not a great deficit.

Yes, I have a more more than than you. Yeah, exactly. So,

so, demand me not how many to be to get to the calorie. I'm not exactly,

and even if I had, I'd not vented that you'd sometimes, who are correct for

us. I have the right to take the decisions for me but you're going to be in the real.

Really. Really. I've rarely been so I've been not been as well as that I've been

my time my time my time it's beautiful to be able to to have not because I've

lost to it's not your envelope she's I'm able to I've got my blonde

before again not the envelope the energy the bonner contagious the joy of

to live, I were more I'm not there's nothing than you're not I'm gonna in the mirror and I'm gonna

be my and I'm no no because the the poe the envelope corporeal should not

be something that you don't know but it's so what you do you know yeah but yeah but I

don't know I'd say it's important yeah it's important to say me but Collinj me but it's that there's a bit of you say

who are like that. I decided to change and then, you know, like that you get to have a lot to live there.

You'd not be able to know, I'd be sure I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm afraid,

I was at the arena, and I was, and I'm not, I'm not a muscle that's far,

I had the part of my bra, and it had to be to be able to and I have been

to be able to me releg, my arms, he wanted to my chair, and it would be not, it would be

will not. I'm going to who I was and I'm sure I'm sorry. Well, you know, it's that

that's a lot because there's there's a lot of but they're saying, but finally it's not that that's not that, you know,

but you're it's so, you have identified and I think that's responsible to, you know, to be to be to make

to the heart of their life? Because it's what you've decided to get to to make to to make a

heart of your life, you say, but I'm there's something that's that's

a bit, that I'm capable. I've seen on a photo I just made to make the foot and you've decided

to change and the end of the story I'm not it's to say it's that it's just that after that

after that I've paid money, I paid money for to be able to be able to me and who

said, you can't say, you can manage that you can't make that after that after that

is that I'm obliged because I always been transparent so what I what I'm made

reproached is you you've always been transparent but there whoops, you decide that you're not.

I'm transparent when it's positive for me. But you know you're going to like, I mean, you're not

saying, you're not going to say, but I don't know, because it's like the money, it's also sensible

to the people because we're, because we, how I I'd say, we're, we're,

we're so, so if someone that's always saying, well, she has,

like, she, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

And you, you'll It's a pair, but that other It's like a You know, you You can't You can't, The way you can't

Not, but the fact of it Because it's hard, because it's due, It's quite It's very hard And it's very hard And what, And it's the

It's the fear To get to It's the Is that? Is that you Mange Sennement? Yes, but I'm I'm gonna

I'm gonna But it's But it's But you're Mange? Normally, Normally, but you know,

if I decided to go to I'm going to I'm going to like I'm going to be I'm doing there I'm saying

oh I'm a big Mac and I'm saying it's like but that's also the suive professional that you have used

for to learn to find to find that they're you know that's you're not not sure not

you're not not sure in trying to make but it's maybe maybe maybe

more pensed all simply but I'm but I'm but I'm I'm I mean, I was not I was fatigued the

night, I'm now that I'm much, that I'm much, I'm more, I'm more, I'm a little energy to revend, you know, you're

a difference also when you have a malbuff and I had a lot of the morning I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to and I'm sorry, and I'm going to get a sack of the chip. The chip, it's true, it's good

of these chips? The chip, the pizza, but I'm I've applied to calm me. You know, when you

when you think to put these chips in the stomach and to be to go ahead. It's not a little bit like, I don't know. I don't know. My son my daughter, you're like, my God, we don't know

that the children have to go in the room and you get like that's like no sense, I've just re-appried to finally to make attention

to me, to return the animals that are not nociff for me is that I'm to eat, yes, but not

but not but probably before to be before to be to do get to eat to have to be to eat with

And I'm going to bring a poign not the sack to complete. It's so the difference. So, so that's the

end of the story by the part of your point. Exactly. I decided that I'm talking about

the people who asked the questions, terminate. I said, I said, I said, I've said,

we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, you know, because you're talking about the comments, there's always,

oh, my God, yeah, so it's sure that you're over the door to at this discussion that,

except that there a day, you're a job you're over, And there's that, you know, I'm open. After that, I've explained. I'm talking. I can't pass my life

to talk to my perth of weight. No, and you can't never ever talk. No. Because if there's a thing we've seen, it's that. You know, I've created

a bulle on my Instagram for all. All the story that I've made by that, I've left it like so if someone has been to

know or to talk, he can't go to see to see that but for my part to me, I've been to say, I've been to say,

I've been to say, in the comments of the It's usually, we have all the time. The last I got to

it's not a part of the part of the part of the part of the amount of having to have the commenter of

mard. So it's well, if we know, we go on your Instagram, in your burt,

and you know, it's all, you know, that's the point, you know, to say, we're going to say, we're

there, to say, what, what's important for me, is that you want to be able,

I'm really to ask, I'm extremely very much, I'm extremely good, Dernard question, Maika, optorizzo. If you regarded your life

at the eyes of the little Maika, what would they tell? A feinting, a girless, who is aureuse, who is grounded, who is centred, who is long to be perfect, but who accept

these imperfections. And that's enormous. That's what I had never made before. So I think she'd would be very fair. Because the imperfection, is that the view?

It's the right of perfect. It's what he does. It's what you feel the person that's I'm doing often, I'm perfectly

imperfect and I'm accept. That's a good message, to be perfectly imperfect and be good with that. But I'd

like that's good, Mike. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. But just a last question.

Oh, you do you see in 10 in 10? In 10, in 10, in, I'm in 10,

I'd have to more to work more than just, more to work, and relaxes a little bit more.

In your grand. In my big divan with my gross doudo. And I'd like that

to be also present for my children who are being made also present. I'm also present. I'm still anymore, but the

letter, thank you. Honestly, I think that's what you have said, it's a lot to be able

to do with questions. These questions that were making sure, sometimes I'm listening, oh,

it's perhaps a bit decusue, I'd stress at the end up you know, I've reached

to be in confidence with you know, that's the fun. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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