Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #129 - Dominic Arpin | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

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of the people in the life is that we're all in this sentiment that

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in a moment very difficult of my life so it's just by the bill of the TV

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she's with us Dominique Arpin Hello, Dominic. Hello, it's a cause of you know, it's a cause of you know,

it's a question when you're talking to say, the first time I'd ever not, you know, we're talking about the point of

what we do it in the way, you know, we do the TV, it's a little superficial and, especially when you

talk to show video, but it's really a great story, you know, I'll say, you know, I'm going to

tell you, I'm I, you know, I had used an amiosynthes to, I'm at 27 semester, but that

we'd attended to have to make fin to the grotesque because he

subsone a trisomy 13, these children not survive so that would be in uterine

and that would make in danger or that we've provoked the acuchement but

when we pass the myosynthes I have two two weeks to attend

without imagine how it's difficult it's it's it's it's

it's in 27 seven the baby boche and you see that

it's going not in a good direction. And I had heard of the game Raven. Oh,

yeah, it was this show, Riven, it was a game of adventure on the console PlayStation,

and I was always to remember, we'd to get to because I had a hospital,

and then we went to to turn to Kakuna to attend the result of during perhaps 10,

10 years to 14 years. And I'm saying, Mario, okay, Aright, you're at the future shop,

because there have been on the future shop, I said, I'd say, why, I'd say,

I'm going to buy me to buy me to buy me to buy me exactly what you said, PlayStation, the game Riven. And we're we made to play at it together, Mario and I, and when we played when we had to go to this game of adventure, it's all right now, you know, it's on top of post, and it's, it's a lot of, it's put it on purpose, and it's It's a fact that we've

put to take the recule face of all because we would have been it was also low, but we had

had had been in the time to respire. It's like a little boul of the power and the time

that's due you're in a world immersive and it's fascinating the game for that

we're we're reproach plenty of things to show video and with reason but it

has also this capacity to get to start to start to when you

see I'm so I'm thank you I'd like thank you know, you

do you know, it's like a little, you know, it's like that it's like that it's a lot so much how you go presently?

It's all well, it's very long time that I've not touched a manette of video, I think that

my son my son, my father, he has 22 and I think the palm is not come down to the

arm, he's very very young to play to play to play the game there's

the same, there's the the game video, you know, when we're on the other, and we'll watch, I don't know, Mario Kart, these things like that, so.

So, Tomah, he's much more on the game video, and I know that I'd like, you know, he's always, you know, the newties,

oh, this game, I think you'll like you, it's always, to be able to make, to get to down the sous-sole

and play a little with him, but I'm really turned the page on this epoch that, I'd say that I'm pretty pleasure,

it's more than other things I'm doing to play at the games, I'm the impression to lose my time

also. So, to respond to your question, it's a very long that I've not done to

play to play to play. And your same time how it? Well, my health

physical, exceptional. My mental, it's a work of every day. I realize

that the anxiety that I've had more young and revenu, it's manifested at other

occasions in the last years. And so this problem that I I think, in a guillemeter, I realize that he is still there and that I

will have to learn to live with. But the good news is that I'm more utilier than ever for to make face to these issues of health mental there. And the fact that I don't to have a lot of support, it's

a help, it's a little bit. Is it ready to open to your game? Yes, I'm telling, I'm trying to play with you. Yeah, we like, we're doing that, yeah, that's for that. And the games, generally, my blonde,

that you'd like, you know, I know, Annie. I'm not a fervant of game of society, but that, it's very much, we like,

in the car, when we're doing, in the car, we're doing, we're doing with some questions that we're that we're

that we're the question that's really, and it's very revelator, sometimes you're to learn that you're not sure otherment

that if you have not the pretext to pose a question that's written on a question that's it's written the game

which is the game for the Coupe, we don't know after. And it's it's like like the

last time of the last year, you know, that the couple I'm arreight, and me say, hey,

we're doing to do at your game, and it's it's just that we never said, and the

people come back, I think when there when there a man in the couple,

I think that it there's it's like it's like to be to be able to see,

because when you pose a question, you want to hear of the response, and to talk of things who are not the habit of, I feel like a

question, and it's a question. It creates a pretext that, it would seem like strange to pose these questions that, a supper

a vendre of a night and a minute. My love, parle-mone to your fantasies the most, you,

but there, in the card of a game, we'd say that pass well, with some with the

little vows, it's also. It's So more. So, the level Ver, it's

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on the question with this question. Okay, that's the question that I'm not answer. Well,

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go and I'm going to choose one or so to have to respond. Okay. Of what do you per?

At which where do you feel you in plain possession of your way? How do you

to do you to the authority? How have evolved the time the importance that you accord to

regard of other? When I me regard in the mirror, I see. Considering

that I'm considering that the view the When it's where the fear I'm going to I'm going to go to

do you know about? Perfect, go see. In fact, the question it's the question it's,

of what, do you not you're at that? Ah, it's incredible. The processus of the

processus of writing to think to all the fear that I've since I'm from that I'm

made to how point I'm afraid to do in the life. I'm anxious of nature

and I'm I think that the power principal, the power Jedi in my history, it's obviously the part of moorre, you know, and I've seen, and I've known intimately, this part, but it's declin to, but it's a lot of, you know, the part of my own, it's, by example, when I do the escalade, the part of tomb, the part to me briser the water,

when I nage, by example, in a triathlon, and I'm in a lake, the part of my own, nooyed, the part of to have ridicule the fear of the

of the of the part of all I'm abit but I have made the

choice in the last years to be confronted and to

me to me to measure at these power to try to not necessarily

not necessarily to not necessarily to calm a little the sentiment that

I'm prokeur and also because for me, the pair, it's like a mur that's

from a world where I have to exist and to visit. And very long time I'm let's be left in these parts

and it, it's, it has made, it's, it's made in a sort that I'm not the

person that I'd be a person that I 've done this processus in the last years,

I'm, I'm, the new Dominic, You know, the Dominic, that I'd be able to help when I was ticked seven when we'd, you know, when we'd say, okay, when I'd be great, I'd like that, to find these adventures, I'd like to find these sports, you know, being a badass in the life, and all these tricks, you know,

but I'd not authorize not to do it, because I had an impression that I was not sufficient, and that these parts, I'd define it, and that it was just not for me, you know. Is it has been surproteged in your infancy When I think I repense

Today, maybe a little by my my mother I've I've grown in a couple very traditional

the mom who's who's occupies at the house, my father is agricultor present

but in but in the same not present because he'd He's levy at 5 o'clock the morning

and he finished his journey the night and like Like, me, it was not a that's not a interest and

me, passionate, I'd not, I'm not, you know, like the, I'm in the parents,

they were in their parents, in the tractor, and they had to the animals? Is it? Oh, yeah. My father,

there had, there was a house, there had a group of vash lettyard. So, I, you know,

I've tried the vash, and I've made the fos, and I've made, the tach, but it's more to gain

to get the more than than other other things. I, I knew that I'm that, but

I'm the impression that also the fact that I've grown in a little long of all, even just to go to

the village of St. Tours for me, when I was when I was even not possible because it

it was a kind of of 10, 15 minutes of Voture so in Vos we're talking

to 30 minutes and before that my parents motorize to bring to me

at St. Tours in the village to have the time I've grown in a little cockon

to the campaign in the nature of that and I'm the impression that's a feeling that to be protected me came to of this epoch. And I've vied an event traumatizing in my

infancy in my infancy, which is revenued in the years of the hypnosis, I don't know if you want to go to go back.

But absolutely, I like so what you say. I've been frapped by a accident of I mean, I've traversed the

road in front of our house to and there's a carrived at all the speed that it's a miracle that I

survived at this accident that. The car was in a run, 90, 90 kilometers,

I've revoled at about 50 feet, in the chand, my parents who,

who, who, who, who, who, had been there on the board of

the road, they were going to see if I'm going, see, if I'm, But by Mirang, I had

any of the hospital, and I had some of those, some of my own to do you, but I'm not, you know,

I'm not of fracture, not of, no, but the blesture internal. But what I realized,

is that, it's that, there's something that's coming that, is that the kind of to get,

it's crystallized in me. And for your parents, they've seen, this accident that? My parents,

he was at the first lodge, that, of this has troubled, they also. They've

had been to be They've been to me and they're the first the first

I'm in the first of you know, we're in we're in the rest of those days my brother

my father, the father, the guy far typical that of this generation that,

to see in alarm and my my mire who all that for me,

it's been a traumatism but that I've rapidly evacue and it's like

if I have re-fermed the page there there some a couple

years of that I practice the triathlon And then I'm in the lake and I've made

an attack of panic in the lake and I think I'm going to mournoyed, I have the difficulty to rest at the surface of the water

finally I've reached to me to get to someone who is on a page that is there for supervise the annanche

and I'm I'm a croce and I'm not I understand that I feel a attack of panic but I don't know

why it's I'm trying to I finished the course to that and it's arrived a second

a course a couple a couple a couple of I'm like I'm like it's a that's not

that's a attack of panic in the water so I'm so I'm going to someone

who's someone who I'm going to get to turn very septic in the

life I'm I'm a I'm a journalist in Lamp and and I

just to imagine the Sain the 12 travel of Astyx with

So I feel that you're a sangliere, and I have an impression that's what it's going to be going to be. In other case, brief, I'm in front of his cabinet, and then, she's in my men, in this state of hypnosis, I don't know how he is arrived. And it's that, Mary Claude, who is out of our discussion. I'm set up to tremble on the divan, to pleur at the show of the arm, and I've re-vue the accident of the road. I had, perhaps what, 8, 9-1 at this moment, that?

No, I was more young than that. I was in maternal. So I had, what, six years? Five, six years. Five, six. You were really little. It was really little. And I was re-vecued at this moment,

and then I said like, okay, it's not regled this affair, there. There's still something of this traumatism that that that that's abid after today. And then I've worked there and it's still

it still still incontable in Langer in no-libre. But, there, I understand that it's up to that I have to mourn. So the hypnosis has helped me to help not necessarily

to regulate the problem of the other, but, you know, I'm going to to think, why I'm going to where I'm saying to where it's,

this sentiment of anxiety that that that in these moments very, very precise, it's often the moments where I'm vulnerable or the moments

where there's a possibility, effectively, I just, I'm to stop, I, you know, the, you know,

the nash, it's so, But especially when you're in a triathlon, Dominique, you're entomured, you're talking to, you know, I mean, you know, I just to think of that, I'm trying to work with Carine Champagne, at the radio, and she'd say, I'd say, I'd say,

I sat, I'm sitting in a bureau, so I can imagine if you're already some, you're in the water, you're in plenty of people, you can't do you far assomé, practically. Yeah, no, it's, it's as a lot. The nage, there, I'm, well, with the time,

I've learned, you know, the people who part in the triathlons, it's the first reprove, the natation, and then all the world is cranked and all the world in a lot, and there's the excitement

also of the moment, so all the world so everyone's garroge in the water in the same time, and, you know, the nage, it's a little like, all the most

there, you know, there's some people maybe more quick, but you're not all the time in the same tapone of monde, and there,

just the fact that someone you'd accroche the piece, it's, it's sort to your zone of zanitude, because

I mean, you know, you get to, you know, you're going to, you know, in a piscine, or even in a lake, all with my, my flot,

that's in the rearial. I can't, I'm trying to, I can't, without any problem, but there, when you add, you're also,

sometimes, like, you're ingo-sed because they're in trying to live, there's like a, there's like a,

there's like, that you feel that you're in trying to nage for your service. So, a little bit more

painable. But, you know, I'm re-inscribed to a triathlon. I've been several years because there's

an year to live this uncomfortable that. And then my father who wants also to be able to

make a triathlon the year so I said, well, my grand, we're going to do it so I'm

going to start the entranement and I return in the lake nage so we

go how it will be how it's I don't want I, you know, I rebuke the buckle, I'm not

to be able to let's in my life in my life because of my power. But as I'm a moment

of a moment of a minute, I'm my powers, it's what your element of the clacharce? Ah,

well, it's the cancer, it's 12 now, it's a 2013, diagnostic of cancer,

we've been operated, we've been an operation of urgence, because the mass

was voluminous, recouped all my run, and, I'm I'm going to my

life of this moment that in the time in the time when you're in the

mass voluminous mass voluminous cancer and so I'm I've had

the impression to pronounce my sentence when I when I saw my my pier

tombal with my family reunied around that's it's it's really

morbid like sentiment and then and a moment I'm I'm

pasted the weeks before the operation in imagining that all

would be going to the moment where we've made in the block operatoor

where I'm on the siviar and there I'm alone my blonde has

not my company just there I'm I'm I'm

I'm and I know that's an operation that's a four five hours

it's kind of an operation important important. And then I see the

anesthesis who's that comes and he makes explain to what he's and who he says,

and he me says, then I go, I'll, I'll put a mask and I go to an

anesthesiaan and you go count to 10 to at 0, and before to arrive at zero,

you're going to be and my my fear at the moment that was to not me

reveying. You know, we've already heard of people who have been anesthesied, and finally, the operation

is well passed, and this person is, is morted during the operation, and I,

it was that. It was that, in fact, it was a terror. I was a

infirmary had been to be to be a calm before the operation so,

I was trembed on my siviar, I had really, I had totally

fear, to not me reveye, that at this moment that I'm made a promise and this promise that has changed my

life, and it's been to be saying, okay, now, if I'm reveigh, no matter the

the pain what he will be anonsor, but if I'm reveigh, I'll

profited the rest of my days, like, and the fears, chabai,

it's finished, I could never have more power than that in my life. It's not

true that I'm going to let's my fear of talk of public or my fear of nanger in a lake

or my power of escalate a road rocheuse me restrain and me

retrain and me reten and the good news is that I'm there today so I'm so I'm

so I'm sorry it's been the first when my eyes are open when my first thing

Christ it has been bad it was really they had a difficulty with the anti-douleur

it's not it's been I had an impression that someone that had inserted a tige

bruland in my entrails and that it was it was it's almost it's

quite but in the same time I shorried I'm just I'm just I'm like fuck I'm

I'm sure I'm living I'm the life matant and and from the day

that that that I that I've that's always that's that's always that's

you know, and it's really that your promise. Well, at each year, and in the

moments when I doubt or in the moments of the time, you know, because

you're chast the natural and the revion gallo, there are there's where I,

you, I'd say that I'll say that I'll say, the, the beauty that I'm, I'm,

I'm a mark on my car that will have been to be my whole my

life this moment that, and it It's true that mark that I see every day

when I'm my doche or when I change the chandel I'm a tracrace that's a

cranes and it's like a trophy or it's like a repel of this moment and I'm and I'm

sorry to I'm sorry to my I'm not to serve there. There's a time I'm

like I'm okay, come on you know you've been you've been you're still there today you're still

there today Fonse so it's It's really Devenue an tool which I

mean. It's really inspiring what you do. So, yes, I'm afraid to respond

to the question. Of what you're doing? Of what do you feel to be in

possession of your money? Aye, it's, I'm I'm to surprise

there, but at not a many of other androar.

And we say that the part, and so I'm to talk all that

all that all I'm affliged of an incredible syndrome of the

imposter and that it so it makes that I'm not

in possession of my money no part. Tantow

I I was I attended that you came me to come

what what's what I what's, what I'm going to to say, I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm, I think,

I think, I'm like, I think they're in a lot of their, in their life with, you know, with these

words who are like, what I'm, what I'm, what I'm going to say, so that's an example of,

you know, there, I'm not, I'm not in possession of my way, so that it

so that's fucking 35 years that I, so, so, no way. On a

field of departure of a course, I'm doing all when I'm what I'm they're

they're they're more and they're a genetic that makes in sort of that I constantly

I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not so it's so it's it's been

a tool that I'm for to be better. You know, your podcast, I've been it's been

it's been because I'm going to be because I'm prepared, I'm doing my dovour. I'm going to

my life, you know, and I'm going to talk to a piece like an elite to talk to

because I read all there on there's all the videos that exist there because I

want to be trying to I'd have to be in possession of my way, but I've always the feeling that I'm not, but it's a fact that I've been

more far than everyone in this, well, as in my job, I'm in the impression that in my life. You know, it's for

that he makes, it's exactly for what you've been to respond. At which point we don't see what, what's not,

what, I don't know, I look to go, Dominic Arpin, I, you know, I'm, I'm always when I'm to give at the

television, I think you're an eloquence incredible when you talk, a clarity, you have a direction in what you say, we know, when you, you know, when you

come, you know, when you're a chronicer, there was a debut, a milieu, and a fine. And, I mean, I, there's times, I think the people, we don't know what we've heard, and you know, and you can't me tell us a story,

and when you're arrived with Vlog, you're already revolutionary with Vlog, to, you know, to us talk, you know, it's, you know, it's a refiner with the time, but I mean, you're one of the first, where you you know

to understand the technology that's that technology also could could be able to be able to make a lot

and you know, I think, I think, I think you do you know, and you know, to tell you say that,

I think that's that's the beauty of the human. It's when we're able to it express,

you know, imagine the people, who we're there's people who there's never been able

to make the words there to maybe you doubt of that but you're that, in eloquence.

And then a easy to really, and in your book also you know, your

your life, you're easy to learn, we're we're talking our stories, and you know, you know,

you know, you know, the book, the list is an other example, you know, I'd

could say, oh, my God, during my screen, on my screen, when I

read this life, that, how I'm in plain possession of my way,

it's, it's been an, an adventure in I thought, you know, I said in the book, it's been the

big challenge of my life, because that all the day I'm installed at my screen, and then I

read what I read what I'm saying, ah, it's like, it's the marble, and then, you know,

efface, efface, e'ace, re-comance. But, in fact, if I have a,

a, a, a power in the life, it's that you have a discipline and a rigour,

you're really exceptional. You, it's the sole thing I can me venting in

the life, I retien that I think of my infance, and to see,

to see, every morning, seven on seven three hundred six years every year to do you

get to get to do for me for me, for me, to be to investe in your

work, so, yeah, I had an impression that in writing, it was

it's all no part and that's no way, but it every day I'm installed,

and I had my little sabliy and I had two hours of the year,

so it four four the sabliere, who was a sabbriere of 30 minutes. And, but it's even if I'm

an line or I'll create four pages, it was always any difference, I was sitting behind my bureau during

two hours, and I was in trying to try to have to have done to make a story, you know,

so it's you know, you're talking the radio, I've recounted this year to the gang

with who I've tried, Ingrid Fallais, Tatiana Pauloveoy, the day, of the first morning where

I've made I've made, and we're talking to a medium that I know I'm doing the radio

because I'm 18 years I'm trying a crisis of panic at us I'm saying well,

let's see five years I've not made a radio I'm more capable that the

light will be the light and I'm not what to say, I'm enfarge I'm able

to present the songs and I'm able to The last, my blonde, was there for me to help me

to help me to pass at the time and then I've made the show of radio for a few,

a moment of a moment of there was a question like that's the last time I said, and I said,

well the last time that I'm the last the day of the day of our first night

because that I had not my place there, and I was not in possession

of my money, and the kids, they were not, because it's not

the image that I project. I project not this image that of a guy who I'm not I'm but in

it's, in it's, in it's a brawl it. So, that's she's with Annie,

I know, I know, with her, I'm very, I'm very, you know, my,

my son, your partner, but she you can depose these crinke,

that's, that's, that's your security, that's, if this if this woman,

it's, I'm not in my Because we, you know, we see, we know, we're seeing a moment where, I'm, you know, it's at a drap, solid, because all these anguasses that, which I talked, from the beginning of the podcast, well, you knowy it's not in the alcohol, you know, I'd never

out, I'd be able to, sometimes, in these apartments a little luch. It was my fashion to channelize this kind of, of, of, mal-a-eatres that I had, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd do coffee 20 times per

day because I'm my syndrome of the imposterer the fact that I'm

doing a public and in plus I'm a journalist of fend different and we

know at a point it's a point it's a competitive I'm invest

in my work in my like with a with a bit of obsession

but I have not the pendant that I had not a bad

hygiene of life and Annie is arrived at this

moment and it's she was she she was she she was she she was she she was she she said she

she said she like she's like what she's like what's fun to go to walk at mountain I used to moorrae

so moore with although today I said it's reduced the contract so like she like your montagne

let me give me but it's it's really Annie who that I'm that made to be grounded

and to and to make face to all these these little these people that I can

have on there we're pass it on new yellow young.

Hey, you say I talk too. No, and if we're

never too. Not not the fun. It's kind of kind of

little therapy. You braise the card jones and you want to

me and you know, well, there's just these questions

that are on development and often there a line, we're maybe

if we what's what you know, what you have you what you have always

a field conductor It's the story of the person that's the story of the person that's a bit dissu, I'm going to say sometimes I'm a little

question we're going to and we're not and when it's after because when I'm after you know finally we never talking to tell about it's not

well you know it's not you know if you have to invite the person a second yeah yeah absolutely yeah

yeah sure Janet Bertrand has been two two times what is the great that you've had to surmounted in your life

what's that you have not received to your family and who you can't What trait of character Has you Irited

of your Pair? What is the paternity T' has apprised? Hmm.

Um, um, well, I think I'll like with the defeat. Yeah,

the the more great defy that you had had to surmounted in your

life, well, you know, I'm don't want to come to the episode

of the episode of because I think that it would part

but I think that's the part, well, in fact, the difficulties around of the escalade. You know, I think the most grand

the thing I've made in the years is the ascension of Kilimanjaro in the card of the crinkees. I'd have could to talk also

of my first ultra-trait of 65 kilometers at Rikana which was really a great defeat, but like the Kilimanjaro, it's passed on almost a week, I think that's

the challenge that has been the most difficult in my life, because there, you know, we're doing, we have the link with the

anxiety. The Kilimanjaro is the most high summit of Africa, it's 5,895 I'm there with a group

of Quebecua. We have a guide extraordinary. It's Marri Pierre Desarnet, alpinist Quebecoise. And I'm well, I like

control the things. I like I'm prepared to so I have all used on the Kilimanjao so I know

that there were every year a cause of the mal ague of the mountains so I had that

and the other other thing is that you know before you know before to start how your

can be how you can't make sure you can't you can't train for that.

It's entraned for an ultra trail, when you're a maniac like me, I had a plan at each day, I know exactly what I had to do for arrive

there. The Kilimajaro it's not like that. You're not and you discover a time that you monde, if your car

it's a climate or not at the altitude. So I get all these power land in the and we're

and we're on the first can and we we're we're all all together all

together in a little refuge, and there I I think, my more fulgurant

attack of panic of my because there in my head, I'm fatigued, I'm scared, I'm

I'm saying, okay, if I'm a malise at this altitude that, we can't be able to

be a hospital. I have all this kind of in the life, you know,

if it's there's where the hospital the the hospital the place, the

ban of the people engrossed in the your life will be going to be in the

sleeping bag and I'm doing all the whole people who do you're and I'm in trying to capote to me saying

if I'm not if I'm don't know I'm from my expedition to me we're in the course of an

show of TV, we have invested the million of dollars for that I participate to this

expedition and I and I'm all I'm all right all right so that it's

it's spin in my head in my little sleeping bag incapable of to find what the dants

that's like, I'm trying, I'm trying, I can even not get to start to the piece because if I'm in a minute

when you're in anxiety, you, you're thinking more in a reasonable. So I've passed the

worst night of my life. And the morning, when the people, when the

people are so I made semblance that I made so much to be

on the field and we partied for a second journey of a march in the mountain

and I know how I'm going to be to get to the other refuge and I have used again

the difficulty to know that more than you would say that more than I'm saying okay, well I'm still there, I'm

still capable malgrey what's the fact that when I'm getting to the summit of I was in

a state of depuizement like I had never given before. Episement physical but

impusement mental I I was, I was just, you know, when you're privy to sleep, it's really one of the most great torture that exists. So, when I've touched the panel and that I realized that I'm even batted just at the end up,

and that I had surmounted all these obstacles, I've fonded in the arm like, I've never pleaded like that before a camera in my life. It's had done a good moment of TV, you know, it's all the time, it's all the time, it's all the time on TV

when someone to be to be super emotive. But, especially in this case there, there was

there's a history, the story, the story of the ascension. I had a little

to realize to say, for he knows what I know, but it's really more later

that I got to the details of what I have used, so I just me that I

didn't, there were there person around to you. Well, you know, the other

were, all the all the people, all the people, people, people

I realized why I was I brawied like a baby because I would have to I'd to reach something that I think

impensable because I'm it's like five, six years that I'm this doubt that in me

so I think that's the the most great defy that I've surmounted in my life

and you know I'm talking and there there's a voice in my head that's yeah

but it's it's always just the Kili Manjaro it's not the it's not the Bres

You're in trying to reduce what you've seen. There's a person who has written a message recently on Facebook and it's a little bit but I'm

in fact I'm I think it's I think it's I'm mesquine but because obviously I'm in promotion I'm a lot

I'm a lot I talk to Kilimanjaro it's a photo of Kilimanjaro that's on my live and there's someone who

he's written I know a guy son of 17 years that he has done. in willing to say,

Chris, revinsant of the there's there's there's there's there's

there there's there's there's there's but that it's so it's

so that's like me that's like I who already doubt of him and who

he already remit all all in question there it's like

okay I'm okay I've been exposed to so so so

so so when you when you think you think you I'm just re-refleashed to that in a manner

more objective. We're not all the same place in the life, you know, there's people who me say, oh, I've

made you know to find that too too that's too that's like, no. No, to go to

five kilometers, it's extraordinary. I've already found that extraordinary in my life, and it's

extraordinary in your life and someone who makes on the pint of sugar, to Montsintillard, and who

it's over to there, for me, it has so much of merit than a ventureer who has trained to his life to come to

get to get to the Everest and there's and there's there's a question? But it's a story

about that Yeah, you know, it's the time, well, I'd say how many

the infant of seven but I'm I'm always to say to say to say, I've always to say,

it's always that comes on an interview, and he's saying, we're talking all the same

so, but you can't change your story to each of your interview. It's that,

to do that to talk about at the time, it's not it's a time, you know, it's not

that he's going to say, oh, well, he's still he's still that the person

is not going to be in the new life for, for, you don't know, he's never the same

to say, it's a radio, you know, to comeace, the radio, you know, we're doing,

you know, the first that you're talking about your blind, but Chris, it's

arrived just a time in my life, so it's It's sure that I've got to tell place, and it's a tell tonne that they'd play at this moment

that, but it's the same history that I've talked before 10 years, when this subject that arrives in a discussion, well, well, so the Kiliman Jarrow, if you've had a day

that I'm talking, but it's just for me at this day, there, there'll be there other, I, you know, you're doing the can't base

of Leveras? Yeah, yeah, and so, you know, I'm talking because... You're in trying to

convict. No, I'm convinced, I'm trying to convince my blonde. It's funny, because it's seven, Mark Claude. I'll have told me in an episode with Sophie D'Roucher. And then I've read the mission with my blonde,

and then I recount to Sophie that I want, that I want, you know, that I'll do this is the first time that my blonde has nothing said. So, you know, tranquillement, not fast, I think that the desensibilise. The desensibilise, exactly, tranquillement, not fast, at the idea that I'm going to do

why you're going to do this? Why do you go to do that? Because that mountain, me fascine, for that I've been for that I'm I'm sure without having seen of my

proper's view, so I don't know I'm not escalade because I think it's too dangerous and I've used

too of horror around the Lerrest but you know I'm like the mountain that nature who am the

treking it's like the pinnack you know you want the Everest in your life and he's

there effectively a trek that makes you can't Cushed at a camp of bars. So, live during a

day or two the community of the community of the alpinists that's to prepare to get to

get to get to the Everest that are kind of many of many more

more dangerous, but they are all as well that's so what I want to do you

do that after the camp of course and after after after a summer

to make a moment. I know I'll never that in any never

that but I'm I'm on on all on all to those who who are those who

those who go the grimps of the I'm just an obsession on the Mons Oh my goodness I'm talking I like that

I'm telling so but in the time it's it's trice we see we're quite some people they're

often they're going to pass to the alpinists who are not not out of when they're also, sometimes they're

they're dead the car of the failles the failles the fire that you come to come at the

mack of the crevaste well And I, you know, sometimes Marlowe me say, but, you'll do it's not

because I'll do it's not because I'm interested not this depassment Dominique, because I'm always, but why

why you're to make in danger of this fashion, you know, you know, your, your objective is not to

to get to run at Mount Everest after the camp of but it is, it's so, it's

there's still there, you know, sometimes we're some, you know, the following, the film,

well, the person they've or or even she's still not,

but I think that I think it's not phenomenal, I don't know, for me it's more

than the human to do that. I've all the time I'm probably probably from

the tintin that I said when I was Ticue for the adventure and the repastment

of so and I know, it's, they're my hero in the life,

you know, it's these people who do these people and they do

they do they do do they They're going... It's incredible. I have a fixation there's on my quacket

of the last year is to try to understand how it's going to in the head of a crinquet and of someone and it's

the fun because that I start quite to go ahead to get to get some bit of information

and these tricks and I'm I'm in my life in my difficulties than my

life of every day we have we have to be able to learn of these people. And it's for

that to go to work for me, it's like, it's a no-brainer. And why Annie, she has

a desitations? Well, because she thought that's, and she's, and she's, and it's a reason, it's

very egoists, because I'm going to be parted long time without her. And, during this time that,

it's she she's, she's, you know, the fish at the house, and to go,

and to go, and, to go, chien two times per day. And it's

a charge mental and the chum is not there. And so, I think it's also

that it's a lot of a part of risk, you know, you've talked to talk about an avalanche, there's been

there's been there's a fact that it rest that it's not, if we're if we're taking the

example of pen to it's, it's more dangerous than to go to Mount Sintillard to mount

the pint of but it's for that I think that she's a bit a break by a part a lot of

she's a a lot of it's like it's like it's like when I'm when I'm it's impossible

to make change the idea in fact you do it publicly yeah yeah yeah

I'm I'm at a every I'm a couple more I'm a

time in the three questions and what's what's what I'm what's what I'm

trying with that what's what the paternity you have apprised Oh, my God, it's a good question

because I have two children, you know, the people often more talk to my son, Tomah, who has 22, but I'm a great friend Lawrence who has 31 years who is arrived in my life in a way impreview, we'll say that, like that.

It was not planified. It's a moment in my life where I'd come to my career as a journalist at TQS. And I think that my

female, what she made on me is, at how I could exist

a year than the work, she had been a to profit to the

time present, to appreciate to to play at barbie in the salon an afternoon

Saturday, and she said she said that she had I'm a very much my children,

I'm much the time that I've passed with my children, that I

see that I see, I know I don't know because she's adult and all that.

But she she had made that I'm had been integrated the values

that my parents were my parents have been these parents amos, the parents

who have all the time of our care of our care, we've never to make of love,

and it's been naturally when I had been naturally when I've not had to me to even if there

had a part of me, you know, that's the beginning, it's the beginning,

it's sure that it will, it's sure that it will influence in my decisions, and in

the time that I will be able to consacree to my but I think it's a good thing

because I'm going to be completely obligated in the work if it had not been to

my children who were in the moment present and that me would make

to see a other facet of my personality. Is the the fact of having

the children, it has had augmented your fear? Is it

you're a father who has been a great protector or that

he's in fact, yes, yes, it's sure. And what I'm what I've realized also rapidly, is that all these issues of anxiety, and of esteem of

self, unfortunately, I've got a lot transmiss it to my children, so it's it's very, it's been evident in my eyes that, you know, that they would suffer of the same trouble

of the mental than I and that, I've been I've always really, you know, and I think

in what I do today, there's a there's a there's a there's a I'm going, I'm trying,

I'm a model for my children, to make, guys, we have the same fear,

we know, we're the same issues, but here what's what I have to make to allgret to

my life. So, see that the children you can not they're

passing these messages to know to get to give that for the cash but if they see your

your constance and the regard in the you, you apply to to become someone

of good and of good but I think it has finished by to paint and they

they're there's there a in my choice of my choice by the example.

I try to preach by example the plus possible. And it's made

in sort that I have a good I'm a question, when my girl me

talk to, you, my guy, I'm, my guy, I'm just for to tell

to tell to a problem that's a malady that is insidue insinue and the

day, in fact, the same the same before his first time he's made to

not to be adorned the night and to be anxious because he had a fear to not find his local the day of his first course and to not know at what

the station of the metro and what's to get to get to tell a pavilion to the department so I've

made Tom what's you do you do what I'm going I'm going to I've passed with my guy, I've passed a day with my

guy, we're we're going to the university that's the first I've returned to the university in the university in New York

since I And then, we have made the tour of these classes. When your is here, we're going to, we're going to,

we're going to and we're coming, we're going to pass a journey on. But that, I think not that an

other pair who has not the same people who would have in, so you know, you know,

you're trying the metro, you start at the University of Montreal and you see the

world, you see, it's not complicated, but I'm, well, I'm, I'll see

what he he lives, I, I, So, I'm going with, and, you know, we've passed, we've passed the journey ensemble. In plus, you know, the moment where you can live a connection with your children, it's more than more rare when you've been, so just to live it's like,

my guy, I'm just to feel like my God, I'm happy, and it's been doing his anxiety. You've got de-amorce his anxiety. Yeah, exactly. Ah, no, it's fascinating, so, because it's true. It's true. Yeah, like, like, I'm not quite complicated, now. And we pass all the first

day, we're all we're all a lot of you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, I'm a lot before, to understand what my children live and that's a

same thing because that was like a processus but I've long been to, you know, also,

to, hey, come on, you know, be a man, you know, and, go see, I'm,

to, I'm, and I'm, I regret to that, because, now, I'm,

you know, when my his, he'd say that he had mal at the car when we had been

the car when he was because he's anxious, because he's all the time he had all

the time when we're to get to get to an other place, he was anxious to

how it it was so we had been all right in auto, he had all the

all the poor and we, and we he said, but it's you, it's the

leck that's this morning, you know, you know, it's it's been it's like,

fuck, he's he's anxio, and it's of this manner that that's a way that

you know, but a way that you're quite that you're able to make a parallel with what I

would say, you know, you've got a connection that's difficult to be able and he can't be able to

see that he's not sure, exactly. Nive rose Dominic you can't give me on

three, so please every time we're talking on XSate we have many times it's not

much time to know it's not too to to know to say that's an anxiety. A lot of people

don't talk not also. Yeah. And I'm I've seen with the time that it's in the genes

of my family my mother my mare, my mother is super anxious medicamante her, her also,

my aunt, my aunt so I, so I know, I see that it's cool in our veins to generation

and generation and, you know, we, we know, we're, we're, the beauty,

is that today, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking It's so more open that I've

never talked to I've never there's a probably two, three years publicly because

that I'm in the I've seen I'm a if I'm if I'm going to have more

the contract and it will be maybe be more approached because the employers

will think that I'm not at the I'm so I'm so I'm

for me very long but today I'm still I'm a year in my life, and we'll say that I'm

sack a little, there's consequences that could have, and I know that I see because I see my message of people who me say, oh, my God,

to hear of someone that we'd like a guy, you know, who'd be able to nothing in the life, to be able to their anger,

and so on anxiety, I feel like, it's like, it's my new mission of life. I think when we're talking

of the anxiety and that we're capable of to identify what he's cause also of the anxiety, I think

I think the people anxious like you have, you create your mode of life.

You create, it's not a life that you have a or that's there's there's a

idea, because when you're in a milieu who is non-anxious because I have one of

my children who is anxious and it's it's what? Because when you're not

anxious it's like there's like, well, there's not there's like we it was always too

too too too and at a moment of a moment of it's important

for for, I'm one my she's one of my female she has she's

she's protection to make that in place but when there's there's there's

there's I've many and I think I think I'm sometimes

I'm not quite of their life but after that they're okay

they're okay they're it's a security when you they're I'm

I'm I'm you know Your sense, it doesn't come but I'm not I'm not used to anuil. So,

yeah, I feel I'm sure, but I think, I think, the fact to the fact to the fact, to the fact,

we don't know, why there's a certain choice of life, why the person has said no to say, but it's

because it cause too of anxiety. You know, like the fear of public, you know, that after

the human, it's the second, the second, the second, the question that I'm one of the

question that I'm doing, okay, we're just under us who, and who has a part of the plane?

And it's a little bit to that, but who has a power to talk about in public? There's

there's a lot more more people, I'm very at the moment in the conference and the people are like,

of what do you have a part to talk to talk in public? You're a guy of the TV and the radio

and there I don't that I invent nothing, I think, I don't think they're there decry

the symptoms that I recend at the moment that at the first at the end of because it's

part and then I'm I see in the visage of the world who are like who they're like,

you know, that I can't live this moment that I'm like yeah, I'm like, I'm like,

one, I'm going to you're having to get on a good moment and two,

I refuse to me let me freene by my part in the life. This

this that me passionn, you know, I'm I think a popper communicator,

and that it's inscri in my in my need, in my business, it's not true that

I'm going to be there, because I'm the chien to be in a 150 person, you

understand? But this moment that I like it can't the glass to connect with the world.

It's a great connection in the connection, to be connected in the vulnerability common,

you know, it's so it makes that we can be able to see together, yeah,

I'm so I'm so much this moment, you don't choose one,

Wait a minute It's me I'm trying to I'm in there I'm trying to No, I'm gonna wait a minute No,

it's me It's gonna be able Not to I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna in your

Well, what I'm Chosen without the Yeah, that's funny What time The period

of your Fue the most Epusant And then have you Have you your

Limit Physic or Psychological That you You're That's true Okay We're

Okay, we We're quite About about The period of the period of the period of life is Pruvent

That's a lot of... I think, have you already attained your limits of physical or psychological? I like this question that because it has been part of...

I'll come in my kate, it's part of my quest, to find this limit that physical or psychologic. And what I

am, is that I realize with the time that that it boughed. You know, I'm just, we talked to talk about the

marathon, I mean the first time that I've made a marathon, it was the same year where I had my diagnostic of cancer. I've carried my

first marathon five months for having been operated. I see, I'm not. It's an other subject, but for me it's a

way, but for me, it's a way of regal something with the destiny, you know. And I remember that when I'm arrived at the

arrival of the marathon, you know, I'd I'd be a moment of fierty and a moment of

accomplishment, and I I was mad in the I was in a state of sufferance

and of fatigue extreme so that I had asked my blonde that I had to

come to get to get to and I'm not to rest here and celebrate or whatever I'm bringing to

the house and I know how I've made for to make to make to make

all everywhere my feet I had the impression I'd have the I'm

on the really, really, in a state of fatigue physical and mental absolute. And the landmine,

yes, I had the misery to get to the escaliers, yes, you know, I'm still

still, but I realized that I had perhaps attained this day, my limit physical,

but I had convinced that I were able can even to go more more than

than more than I'm coming in the world of the ultramarathons, you know, of 42 kilometers and it's just to understand,

what's just to understand, what's the time to say, will push it more more. I don't what you're in

the sufferance that I'm attire. Because what you do you don't know that's a agreeable?

Well, in fact, what is agreeable, it's the, and you see, it's,

I'll, I'll, I, I'll, I'll, I, people on the restantau

that you know, that's what what's what's that's going to do you know, I think I'm trying to

I'm trying. And I think the response is a lot in the sentiment of Fierty absolute and

of accomplishment that you feel, that you're in the case that it's not but the

most of time it's always it or to arrive or to arrive to arrive to a summit

this feeling in the life the Fierter is a feeling

that's an extreme puissance, but that we can't in the life. There are a

little moment of a feartie by a something that a thing that has made or an

emission of TV that you know, that they were quite I'm sure of that,

I'm afraid of that, I'm not, I'm talking that you know, when you know that's

going to you're going to be to go to and that you didn't and you

could be nothing to you're really to Almost at almost at it's

sure that it's sure that there's a grand grand bit of discomfort in this

voyage he's he has part of the adventure he's part of

the equation and with the time that you learn to learn to

not the not to learn to live with because you know that's

the passage obliged to arrive to get to you

touch to something of magic. I can't I can't it's a there's a

there's a and you see how much time? You know, how much time it's not

this sensation that of the magic? It's not very long time.

It's like a fix I imagine that it might be the same feeling than someone

that someone who who's shoot at heroine it, it's it's not

long time it's it's perhaps a hour, one year in fact I'm

I'm I'm It's like a orgasm, this moment that. It's really like an orgasm. After that, you know, you appreciate this moment that, but the moment when I'm talking to you're talking, that, that's the moment of fearty that, that

that makes up to suffer for 10 hours, hey, tabarnoche, it's good. It's no sense. It's not going to be able to... You've got to be it. You know, it's not... You know, it's just to say, for demanding the time...

You know, it's like we're going to gravies the Vres without oxygen. There are who are who are to move

to do it's a and they're probably survive and you say, okay, you don't

just the camp to bar you're at but you do you decide that,

you say but what's that can you make your life in danger in these case that?

I think it's a question to be to prove something and

there's I hate you to put all the whole in the same panier

but what I realized at force to co-toying the people like that in the life,

it's that we're all animated of this sentiment that to not be able to not

to be to be to never at our eyes and to the other and it

you know to do pass like to do make some in

high altitude or do do do do is

safe probably not but but, you know, to a certain, you know, to manage his personality.

And you have not to have been to have been to regret after. Not to do you. Malgray the dula, because that

the ultramarathom, I imagine that there's an aspect physical, but there's something of psychological also.

It's psychological. Because it's something, it's the night, it's the day, it's 80%

mental and it's sure that someone who's entrain not and who co-p not, I'll

not, will not to pass at a train equal, the person who is resilient,

who is more resilient than the other will be able to see, so, so there's a

force mental, that's what, he said in the dirty of the mental,

it's a great, it's a thing, and it's the thing, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, because I'm plenty of,

but you're one when you do that? In fact, it's that I've been

to be able to you know, for me this kind of resilience that's like an image that I'm used

often it's like a ballon in the same. My ballon at the ballon at my ballon

at the every time that when I grow up and he grossy and he grossy and grossy and the

the, well, I don't not that it's more more facile necessarily after

but we would say that you know the way to to get to get to the end up

and there's something that's bad, you're more far, it's more it's hard it's in all the

sense but it's but it makes all your sense you know to go to get a ultram

marathon you're not on a surface you know like a standard I'm saying

you're on you're on the forest there's there's there there's there's there's

there's there's there so you're is that is that you can to have to have a crisis of panic

or it's something impossible because you're too solicited by other for your time to start? No,

well, I'm saying that I'm never made in this context that. I view the excitation

and sometimes there are these little moments at the course when there I realize

in what I'm saying because, you know, it's because, you know, it's done,

the ultratel Ariricaa that I've made a few years, it was, it's, it it has been 13 hours of

to do you. So, yeah, there's a vertige at when you start and you say like,

okay, I'm going to the next time I'm my monitor, it's in 12, 13 hours.

That's if I arrive to the field to arrive, there's like there's a part of doubt,

but there there's something in the movement also that's that's what that's what I've

after with the time, you know, I'm one of my way to gerry my

anxiety, it's the movement. When I move, it's it makes to evacuate my stress, and we're talking to talk about the radio and it's been a running gag, if you're

talking to say, with the co-animator with who I've worked, but, you know, the 30 seconds before that the micro sov, you're in

a gym with me, you know, I do you, I do shadow boxing, I do some jumping jack, I do, you know, in your

studio, in the studio, in the studio, I'm, you know, I'm intense, Because this this species of tension that I

have to I'm going to I'm going to the micro will be over and I'm hurl to you know,

it's like a way of a way of a way of a matter of a very thing. I'm not saty,

I'm not, I'm doing, I do you do my loge, I'm doing, I do, I do shoo, I do something,

I'm going to be able to get to pass my moments of anxiety. So, course, we say that the

fact of being in movement all the time it's in a lot of my anxiety, yeah.

Is that you feel like in these moments? No, because I see, I'm

I'm a other of the thing that we're in these events that often you're in gang

you know, we're talking about and some sometimes I'm just like I'm there,

I'm saying, I'm there's the fun also to go ahead with the chum in the there's a

trip also of t'cue when we parted, we had a forest with my cousins we had to go ahead and our vows

and we're going to go to cowboys and, you there's that also in an ultra-trell you part during 12 hours

with your gang in the and you're you're in nature there's, there's, there's there

there's there's there's there's there's there's that you partage

the same passion that you there's there's this notion Now, there's sometimes I have

to be able to talk. But the sentiment of appartonance to a group. Yes, it's a community that's a

very, very very far. I'm my cousin who abid in the West Canadian, which is

an ultramatian and she will be going to have a cancer that's very very grave and her

community, just that, this community that's that's written, she has really, she has continued

to go in a mountain, without to go but the mountain for her,

it's part of his gyrison to go, and I'm in mountain. But I I thought it be able to

see all these photos of his gang who he invited to each one of the course at all

at the arrival with them they don't never, but it's that I see the force of the

group, the force of this because it's people people, they're people people who are

people who sometimes sometimes the same the same character, you know, it's a personality

kind of quite as specific for having these events that, so,

you know, that's that's it's there there's a that also.

Yeah, but it's a you know, and there's there's a and there's a time, you know, there's nothing that

I'm going to get to get to my time, to get my my friends in the carty, and we're going to get

at St. St. St. St. Peter, and then, perhaps, we're going to

get a few coffee, and then we're getting a home, and then we're doing the time,

these moments are tripping, you know, and in the But it's it's time for you also,

I like that when you're saying to say. And so you see, I realize often when we're in

we're doing, it's like seven and eight hours and then we're in the same traffic than the

people who have put their dush, who have cut salue bonjou and there

are at the road and they're on on the day. We're we've

used all over even while when the people don't don't

there also a bonner to not do not like the other

there's to be to live a little different that's a bit different, that's

we're in we're in a program presentable on our platform is chosen to be

to be and we talk about what your what your passion? At what you

practice your passion? At how time you have a time, you know, you know,

for so that's what you've been to say, it's not to say to be to be

to be your your friends, your friends, your friends, you know, you're doing, you know,

it's a ritual that instore in your life that's absolutely voluntary. Well, just to go there's a

person who's, there's a part you, to go to gore alone the morning, who, who,

who, who, who will be to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to

have been, you know, I think to my son, you know, my son, she has,

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, And then sometimes I I think I think like

I'm in I think it's I'm in every time it's like I'm sorry my music I'm going to

I'm going to go to work to work all I'm I'm thinking to my life I'm to think of my

project I'm I'm oxygened I'm I'm in my po well for me that's precious

I think I think we I'm sorry because you know it's the cause but it's it's probably

it's bad it's it's pretty it's it's litre it's it may be it

But you know, you know, you do it, you know, you're disciplined, you're rigorous. So, you know, this discipline there, because sometimes we have the discipline to do it, seven years, six years, you know, finally, you know, you're doing time of year. So, you do you continue in the time to do, and it's there that it's a port of free also. There's something that I tend often by the motivation, oh, I'm not motivated. You think you that I'm motivated at all the days of my life?

No, but I'm disciplined and I'm rigorous. That, you have control there's a lot of the motivation, it's something that's a something that's

not something to you're in you know, but, you know, to make a X in your calendar, and to be

a plan to arrive this day to get to get to this day, I can't live without

that, otherwise my life is completely disorganized because I don't see not motivated at all the

days, but you don't know an objective, make me a plan if you have I'm

if I'm I'm up at four hours of the morning, five days every week, there's no problem.

That I'm able to make my grand, and when it will be sure that I'm sure that I'm going to be

motivated, you know, I'm going to be motivated, it's, it's a people who think that's, that's,

that's, you think, that's, what you do you know, give us, give you know, it's a part there,

because you're not, because you have not an objective, and, you know, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, it's not,

to say, well, I'm, I don't, I'm in six months, I'm going to be able to walk a five kilometer, you know, there exist mills, you know, you find your chimes, you know, and you do it, and you, you know, well, it's that, you're present, you know, just do it, it's that, the slogan of Nike, well,

it's just do it. But, you see, until, it's, you, do you, do so, it's to where it's, you know, yeah, I've made, you know, we're talking to, we're talking to, the guy that was on, the, he was,

He was in the Couloir of the and he said, well, just do it let's, and it's

a person that's a person that's that's that he's he's a little but he's a little bit

because you talk of that because I have had made the research for my book. I think about to say,

it would be that carder but I have made because I'm to come out this slogan that

that's so extraordinary. But the people are being made to come and say, well,

we're we're going to do it with the chosos Nike. But the idea

that it In the Culloard of the Bar that had ever Touched a son. Because it was the title of an article the landmine

I think it's on the chaise electric, I'm remember, and it's just do it. It's his citation. It's a citation

Just Do It before the last last time before the last and Nike said, well, it's kind of odd

It's a bit paradoxal but it can't but it's does do it Because everyone has made to march,

to courier, it's like it's a whole of course, it's not just for the Olympians, you can

do it, you can't do it, you can't be able to be able to be able to level

ERA, his companions Oh, well, just on, justly, on

then you. So, then you want to you want to give me three, so please.

Okay, ten, three, and you're a question to respond, What do you to

your first what? What's you have to be about

about about to the importance accord you to to the intimacy

emotional that I'm first first I'm a time

to get to get to a time to go there

to what you would have to say what

I know I think I go with this

that Okay. 20-year-old, I'm still at the university. I think what I'd have liked to say, what I'd have liked to say, is that we're going to be able to, it's that we can't talk, We can

openly of what we're to what we're to feel to the other and it's it's interesting that it's

still the case that it's a subject that's a too taboo and I I remember at 20 years

to have with these things that were not satisfactory for me and that and who

could carded not so with who I'd be too janeed for it

to talk to the other, you know, and today, it's sure that after 28 years, we've got to

have the question, and to see and we know, but I think that's a 20 time it's important

because that's the moment where you see, it's the time you and that's

more than a partner, you know, so I think that's that I'd have liked that you

can talk of sexuality like you can talk of politics, as you can talk of economy or of sport

You're a subject With your partner And I think And I think Today, in case I think I regard The young They're more

They're more open They're doing, you know, We're still still At my time You know, The guys, we'd say to that Inchamp of the

And we had And we'd say It's really a pro-magnon Like a fashion To see But we're But we're not

Tense of Discussion That that of sexuality with our our proper partner, you that's a

question. She's a question. She my parents, not time. Not time. In the

time, it's a drawl because I have I have the moment where, you

I know, I know that it has been to be to be or that it was

because he had he's it was it's not my parents but

we have not I'm not in the case of a discussion but you know, you're talking the

love of your parents, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, she had again,

and she had again, you know, my son me sometimes that she, she had

had been in the home that she had just at the same she had

had an other story because she she had they they were in the

room in the end of the door so, she had had been

Because of that, sometimes, it's a little traumatized to hear of my mother and my father in the chamber at the room at the other because we have always the impression

that it's like we're not going to be there when we're not when we're not to see, but I read my children

I remember of a moment where we've been surprised by my my son he's saying he's all

and I'm saying I think he'd be not ready to see that poor choo but we're It's a much more, you know, we're more de-complexed

than our parents could have been able to be able to. And the fact of being able to be able to talk, you know, like you said, as we talk about politics or we're in a sport, is it liberer something? Is that, you know,

to open really this pen that of our life, our life sexual is an element important in a life? You know, I,

I'm just my course of education sexual to secondaire were done by an an ancient sir, and that she

arrived in the coar with her banana, and she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she was, she said, she was, she said, penist. But,

but we, we're, we, the sexuality was, it was, dangerous, we,

we're just, you, and, with reason, it's important to talk to talk to that, but,

you, we'd talk of the malady venerian, and we talked to penetration,

and, We don't, you know, of, you know, of the intimacyity, and of the conivance, and, you know, all you know, you know, I said to, you know, because it's been saying, it's like that's called, the ITS, yeah,

the maladies venerian. Well, yeah, MTS, but then, it's the 80s, the Maldadivinirium. No, and, you know, there, you know, there were photos, there, you know, there were, you know,

there were, you know, but it was so, it, it was like, it, it's, like, the sexuality for fair to, you know, And it'd be to watch that

you'd want to you'd want to get to get a malady venerian. It's clear so that's

that tint your sexuality so you finish by it's a little bit at the usage

and on it's on it's just that it's a sexuality that's like in the

black you know it's you do you do you do you do you there's

there was there was something of not be We're more, we're like that. Yeah, it's not proper. Not proper.

Yeah, it's not, it's not proper, you know, and then and then, and then, and then, like you say, with Annie, it's a territory that you have defraised ensemble, that you've ever been able to know it, but in a couple,

when we arrive at this step that, it's interesting. You're able to be able to be able to talk about to, you know, what you did at 20 years, you'd have not been to do that?

No, clearly not, because I had not the tools, and I had not the knowledge to it's like,

like, the experience also, you know, that's, you know, with the time. But,

sometimes I would like that, I'm going to, you know, but with all the, the, the baggage

who, you know, at the limit, end of guemate, I'm really the, the expertise that I can

have over already, and to live these first relations, it, me seem

that it would be So it's so much more agreeable than that has been. What's you want? Ah, no, but it's, you know, when we think of that, it's... Yeah, it's not the moment of the more... We've not had a grand education sexual, you know. It's...

Hey, I'm... I mean, the post of condom. And then, me, it's... And then, I'm engrossed, there, because it had been very complex for the professor to know the motel. If you were... It had not been able to, but it... But it was not...

It was it was a car mechanic, yeah, yeah, exactly. You know,

it's like to be able that, that's not the bee, no, no, there's a

penise, a vene, but, you know, but, you know, there were there,

there was clearly not the notion of consentment no more. Yeah, and I know,

a community very, religious, you know, we're going at the mass every time,

my parents is the people, you know, the, the, the, people,

there, more today, but, you know, so, so, you're granded also

with that, you know, the interdied, and, you know, the sex about the marriage,

and it's it's, it was, you know, we'd say, we're, you know, our parents

or our grandparents, but we're, we're not a little in the, let's not the great

norseur, but it was still, we're still, we're still, we, we, we,

arrived the CIDA, can well, the years, you know, I'm in 70, so the pandemic of Cidda,

it's the end of Cidda, it's the 80, in the 90, so. I've heard of a new Cidda, I think,

in 1992, 1913. So, so it's still, now, now, today,

the I don't know, if she is still if she's still, when it's a disease,

I think, we consider as chronic, but a more mortal than it had been with the tritheapy,

we had this pair that, you know, that we're who knew the reportage, we saw, we know,

so it's it was, but it's a chance Madonna had arrived in 1983 with Like a Virgin

for the old that I had been, it's been that Madonna? Oh my God, this song that

and this clip that it was it was kind of these best years in the years

for for for you know grander and and the fantasies we

have to have to be it's been nourished by the first videoclip it's the nascence

of video clip so that obviously Madonna incarnate the the beauty that we

were all and I think for the women for the womanna, it's the kind of

sensuality that we could have like to make that the van there had an

an an an over she had had totally assumed in what

she it was, Madonna. So, you know, so it's a other vision of her. I mean, it's more like, wow, you know, we can be that also, like, we're not in trying to attend. Yeah, no, it's at the time, you know, the guys, we tripped all right, and stuff, Madonna and

company, yeah. Oh, yeah, there's a poster in my chamber, yeah. We're all to see the poster, the guy, we've got all seen the poster of Samanta Fox in our chamber. We'll never not wonder not, why. Yeah. The last question,

it's the question opto-rezo. If you regard the ensemble of your life, what's that's you're in

many. A, a lot of today. And if I'd not said that there

a, you have so long time, but, well, I'm, you know, I'm pretty

to talk to my children, I'm to talk to the adventures

that I 've been But, you know, I think that I'm proud of today at 505 years still in

the media, or the media, we'll say, depuis 35 years this year that I'm out of university and that I've

started to to work at the radio and I, and I'm just thinking my father, you we're not

not to do we've not too granded in an environment where it was something It was plausible to to make a career

in the media and my father, he said often this phrase that the, you know,

the more difficult, it's to do you know, and I'm really, it's not why it's

really really, and it's it's also why I worked throughout my career,

is that I've got to lose what I had acquired, and that one on me

conjid and that that I live that I would be to find the he disappeared,

but now today, you know, I have 55, a vlog just celebrated his 20th season I produce these emissions

also, me even I'm I'm still, the telephone son again for these contracts,

there's the there's I'm here after all these years, so I'm the Tuck who'd

don't know the day of an expososos oral at the primary for second or so

again in this milieu that and gang his life in

doing a job that I seemed a special when I was when I was I was

I was I was fascinated by this world but I'm I'm saying okay I can't

I can't not make that my life my life is to reprint the firm of my part

so yeah I think that's that the most great feart is to have to be

still there today and to again again I'm again I'm

because I like not that, but to be more pertinent, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's not... We're not...

You know, you're still... You know, you're getting to get a lot, you know, and I'm like, okay, I'm able to

to talk about to these phenomena that that that's on TikTok and and I'm not like an of an view

that's, so, so, so I'm really I'm really... Because you're because you're always he's always

he, you, you know, he's, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, but I'm, but I'm

not so, still five years, you understand. What's what you

do do? What's what you do? I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, professionally I'm, I'm,

I'm going where I'm going to, you know, I think all the, the,

the, the, the, the, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, I'm in my 10, 15 the next years,

I want to voyage, I'm going to go to go ahead to do continue to continue to

do the common but you know, maybe more episodic, to work on the

documentaire, continue the conference, maybe to create other books, because

even if it's an exercise that I think penime, I'm, I'm accomplished

in the writing, but, but, but, yeah, I think I'm,

I'm I'm reading more, the article on plus, In the journal, when we talk of pre-retreat, you know, before I'd pass these pages that, I'd say,

it's a lot of, but I'm running that I read these pages of, and I'm saying, you know, I'm a chalet, Arford, no, I'd profit not as much as I would have

voyager, me, and my blonde, but we never the time because the two, we're working at at a cot. So, I think, it's that,

in the next years, what I've got to to do, it's to reduce a little the cadence professional, and profite

to the life a little more with my duss. I'd you wish, Dominique. You're very much you're

so much hey, we we're really thank you thank you thank you there's

I'm not I'm not using the joker but I'm not you're sure, but I want to

you want to you're because you're not you know, you know, you know, you've said

the response you're there you're there over 35 yeah I think you're I think you're

having had been before before 35 thank you thank you thank you It's a pleasure.

Really. Really, a great pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're doing to

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