Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #130 - Jean Pascal | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

Dans cet épisode, l’ex-champion du monde en boxe Jean Pascal se confie sans faux-fuyants. Il aborde son enfance, sa famille, son rôle de père, ses amours, d’argent et évidemment sa carrière.��Il nous ouvre les portes de son intimité.  Il met Jean Pascal de côté pour laisser toute la place à Jean.Rencontre avec un homme qui repousse ses limites, qui suit son instinct et qui ose dire tout haut ce qu’il pense.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barretteVisitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:10:11 Cartes vertes00:31:56 Cartes jaunes01:09:59 Cartes rouges01:21:25 Cartes Éros01:34:25 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez lehttps://www.opto-reseau.com pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.Spa Eastman est un lieu de ressourcement et d’expertise unique au Québec, est situé dans les Cantons-de-l’Est. Cette destination bien-être en nature tout-inclus vous guide, grâce à ses experts, de l’intention à l’action. Pour en savoir plus: spa-eastman.com

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It's not the most great boxer of the Quebec that we receive.

Someone I think is flamboyant when you talk about some people also sometimes

who can be quite as arrogant against his adverser and I

think it's what we know to him to him I'm want to

win my combat and I think the humility have

a combat, it has not necessarily its place. And I've got to hear about it to say, how he's prepared at these combats, what's what's going to happen in his head, what's it does, what it's to pay, also, when you make

so much pressure to say, I'm the mayor, I'm going to, so when it's not, how we live, the he comes, he'll be the next he'll be an end up next combat. So, I've got a lot of questions for him. I think we have a lot to learn to him, and

I talk to John Pascal. So, place, agent. My friend has always been gaited. I've always been present in my manner, but the quote emotional, I think, I've had a markment of this part.

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to Quebec and on RANDOLF.C.A. So, he has been to arrive, he is with us, like I

hear of the question, because I think we have much to learn of his force of character. When we

talk of the force of the mental, I think to my invite, Jean-Pascal, hello,

it's very. Well, yeah, it's hard to tell you just Jean. It's true,

because we say you're that you're called Jean-Pascal, but your name, it's Jean. So I'm

I'm going to call Jean? But now, we can't know well, you can't be able the person is Jean Pascal, but the man

behind the person is Jean. Okay, so while in the podcast, I can tell the John. Effectivement. Okay, perfect.

It's good. I'd like how you go. Grance to you, I vee good, and you? Yeah, well, I'm going,

but I don't know if it's grace to God. What's what it does for you when you when you do because

God, because we, we don't God, it's the force supreme. So, we can plenty of plan in

the life, but if it's not the plan of God, we're not the good chance that

these plans that can't not be so it's important to give glory to

and do care attention. Is that you're a practicant? Is that you go to

the church? Practicant it would a great word. It's a good

word. But, but I have a person who has the faith, I'm

in a family that's Christianist so, I believe to all-power.

So, it's important for me at the first. Is it a career that you've known, that you know, that you know, without this

foe that? Good question. Good question. I think no, because I'm often remit to God

for these questionements, for these combat, and I think he's he's quid to the

light to have a good response to my questionements, to my problems. So certainly

that no, I I'd have been that I'd have had a career also espouffling without his support Is that inculkeed that

your feet also your faith? Yes, my wife is very quoyant She's very quiet, she's quite

in God, she's made baptize and all it's something that's something that I inculkeed

to my children. Is you ready to open your John Pascal? Effectively.

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question of order more specific It's a If you If you get to your

There's a question that Revenue but it's kind of a game that's because it

will be there will be this melanch that of questions you're you're

partire after The questions Rue are the questions really more

personal The question Spaceman is an question on access on your being-a-its,

the level eras and and company, it's a level where we talk of sensuality and sexuality, and the question

optorizos that's the last question to open your question always, I think it's a time, I think,

it's a way, to see, my sub-question going too long, you know, you're the

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That's the powerful backing of Amex. Conditions apply. Okay. I can't look at them. No, you don't look not. I'll do you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you one, and you'll have to respond. choose one also. So you will

respond to two of these questions the other we're on the table. You can't be in your to go to see your

and then you respond and after that I'm choosing one you'll respond in this level that. What importance

you accord you to regard of the other on what trait of character have you have you have you

to work? Which kind of different of you? What is you're vulnerable

and what is your rapport with the authority? Good question. It's a bad question. So I've chosen one.

Yeah, exactly. Okay. I think I'll probably I'll probably. Which has you chosen? I chose, I chose, what importance

to accord you to regard of the other? Perfect. I can respond to that in two times, it's that

in the beginning, I'd have brought a lot to regard of the other, how the

people me persevered, how the people think of me. But with the time,

with the evolution in time in a athlete, I've understood that's

a little the regard of the other. Because in the fact, it's

often, what I can say, the general, the strad, it's

often when the people say sometimes things negative to

your without having to learn to learn to learn to learn to

people who are there just to critique, just for you critiqued. So it's important really to be centred on so

to understand to be able to especially with the time, what I was when I was re-devenued champion of the

world, and we said for five, 10 years, that I had been born for the retreat in

in the 2015, 2016, when I'm re-devened champion of my resilience, that I've

learned that the opinion of the people, I would say, to never let the opinion of the

people to be in your reality. It's not what the people that's not that's

that you're really that because we said that I'm not, that I'm that I'm not the

capacity to re-revenue the champion of the world, that I did that for the

money, for that, and I could have been the contrary, I've

proved the conto the contrary because I had again got to the

passion, I said what I wanted. But is a motivation Jean,

is the fact that the people didn't that were that were to become champion of

the world, is that it was like something that was like the idea, no,

but you have you have been you're for me for certain it's,

it's, it's, but for me, because I'm a scorpion. In fact, it's

20th top-top. So, so I'm a far scorpion. I am to have to have

a reason. But when I'm capable to have been able also. So, I know

I had again, I had the capacity physical, intellectual, to re-deven a champion

of the world. So I wanted to people, that the people had thought,

had not reason. So, certainly, that it would be the oil on the

fire, to be more more than more more. And the people

who were in they were to be there, there were not, there were

not, but there Yes, definitely, there are some people who are who are staying close, but, you know, if you were not, it's a little bit a cuter of double-threnchant,

because, yeah, there are some of my family, of my family, of my family, who said to abandon, but it was not by my chastity, it was by protection

of fear that I shoo, and if I'm going to see, and I'm back up, and I'm at times, so often, the people,

that's my family, my friends, me, my name, me, I'm saying, oh, I, I think it's time to stop to arrest,

but it's not by my chastity, or it was just by fear of me to me were dissu because you know

you're a boxer at a high level, you're one of the most bigor but in the same

the box physically there are there's there's important and also psychologically there are

because you prepare to when you prepare to when you prepare to a match to box you do you

do you visualize ganian? Definitivement it's important I think in box And in the life, in general, the mental is 75% and it's really 25% physical. You know, it's often, it's, the people, we think, the people, we think, it's tangible.

But it's, it's, it's past in the two-orreys. And before we're far mentally, and we're persevered, we can reach everything in the life. So, it's been really important for me, this force mental that that that I care of the time, because I'm not born with a force of character out of the common. It's something that I've after, I've been to

and it's that's the fact that I'm that's the fact that I'm doing also. But how you have applied that? Because, you know,

I think we're a lot to say, we'd like, we'd like, because the force mental is, you're trying,

you're doing an objective, and the rest will be suive? Well, I've been chanceo, I've been

a young age, I've been by a psychologist sportive that's about Robert Schenki, who's appelled He was more than Robert Shanky.

And he made just to make confidence for me because the more young, I was a little question timid,

I was not gross, I was megre, I had poor confidence in my way and the

box, thanks to Robert Schenki with the exercise that me done a affair, psychology and

all, I've learned to make confidence, especially with the box, to gain in the

combat, in the championship, I've seen that I've been the way, it's in a domain,

and all so combined together, it's a whole to put a confidence to me.

And that it's a difference. Definitely. And then, you know, when you didn't,

they'd not for this combat that, finally, you know, is it has like

an kind of to say, ha, ha, I've you, I've had a reason,

yeah, more, yeah, but with the age, we're proud of the sagess,

so it's not always being to bring on the knee, what's the people

we But what I mean, especially, it's for my three of 22 years, I've justly after to not

let the opinion of the people to be in their reality. It's not because his friends or the people think

that it's that will say that it will it define. So it has been a point that she has been

that she also, she had she had some people that said, some she said,

she had some probably that probably that could you would be doubt in their

And when I'm become the champion of the world, it will demonstrate that it's possible and certainly never let's

the opinion of the people to be in your reality. Yeah, and in the middle of the sport,

the retrette, it's not 65 years. The retrait, I mean, it's all the people, if you're

if you're not able, you know, I think, the athletes, like, you know, you have

to jongler with something difficult, you know, that partien to people, but it doesn't,

it's like it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, You know, they're apparting. It's like their career at some part. Especially in box,

we're always as good as our last combat. So if we're playing our last combat, the people are going to think, oh, there's no the foe sacre,

he's finished. And if you gain, your last time, your last time, it's more well, you're more, he's more, he's still, he's still

in other sport of the team, it's always as good than your final combat. It's had taken time to understand

to understand that? It's a it's a it's a couple of years. Yeah,

because you understand in the same time, the psychology human to do that. It's the first

that that's the question that I'm really interesting. I've wanted to know,

you've flored that, what kind of you were just on, I would say,

when I would say, when I was young, I was a guy timid, ginned,

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at the house or other in my relations personal interpersonal I'm

person very very discreet but when the cameras so break on

I say just it's the Jean Pascal who so it's

it's not exactly exactly it's more it's the so. So, well, today, you

have the chance to see the John, the man, the man, behind Jean, in what kind of child were you? I'm curious to know how you're coming to get a box.

Is that, for example, it's your mother who'd say, well, we're saying, well, we're saying, we don't know, we're saying, we're saying,

we're talking, when we're, when we're, when we're, when I'm talking, that I box, the reason, why, that I was,

I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, a man timid, a little man timid, jeaned, a bit introvertie. I'd play a walkie. And I, and I'd

quite as well, it's to walkie, but, you know, in the years 80, there were quite many of racists, you know, on the glass, we'd treate to pallet of chocolate.

When I was just, I had perhaps 10 years, I had probably 10 years, you know, if you were not, at this age, they came to search. Malgrey that,

I was able to do the good teams. I'm even classed in the new elite.

O'Hawki? Yeah, O'Hawke. I played 2A O'Hawke. And so often in the

Blague, I did often that I'm supposed to be the first pick Subbin of the Canadian because I

excelled to hockey, but sopondant, at the age of 14 years, I had arrete, I had to be

launched in the box. Why I I was lost in the box, it's the fact that

I'm sometimes a little intimidated to be in the school, because of my

color of for, because I was little, I was not gross, I wanted to learn to me deform. And what's what I wanted

to do? But I'm saying, but the box is just the points. And in the road, we're with the

points and the feet of the so I wanted to do kickboxing. And I was asking my mom, oh, mom, I'm going to

do you do do kickboxing, but we didn't try to do kickboxing she, and I'm inscribed in the

hapkido. That's like a bit of Taekwendo. The world because it's is a haikido, but it's

really of Hapkido and I did that on the Bova DeLorentide and I

learned with Cesar Marceau that sopendant it was more or for me

I I mean that I haven't but I didn't Mordue at the

abse really and my frere he was champion of the champion of

Quebec and it's he's he made to come to the gym of box

champion who he's in this time on Belanger

Quince Cemich who had re-bat the last year the corner and it's my

grandfather who had brought to the club of box. We're quitted, we're going to get to St. Michel

sent trinet and it's like that I've started to boxed thanks to my grandfrey, Nicholson. I have

plenty of things to ask you. First, you're how many of children? How many the children

at you? It's a question so? No, but to the side of

my mom we're we're three, but my father biologic had

had several children. They had 15 children and he had adopted three

so he had 18 children so that was a great family to my

father. So, I've lived with my mother, so I think we

have a great friend and I have a little sister, Erica, but by

count I reconnected also with the family to my father unfortunately

too too too too for being there's at the death of my

father. Sevoise Pascal, it's there that we have reconnected the family and that's

what? And so, it's been seven years? It's not, it's dead. In 2018,

I'm prepared for the competition of the World. I was in Puerto Rico, and it's

where I learned the new. And I had done to make a pause to my

trainment for me to be in Haiti to assiste to his funeral.

He has had been in politics. He's a man political. He has made of great

things for his country, he has had a funeral even, I think, the son of

the first of the last president Jacques Duvali is coming to assist at my

father. You know, it's a person important. Dism me, that's

that means that, when you had been when you had been in the last,

is that were, is that my mother had been I said adieu. My mother, she has always

knew well to be able to get married with a man who's called François Lapporte who is

like my father. Yes, I'm my parent biologic, but I'm my father

who made just the values Quebecoise, the values how are a man, and it's

Francois LaPorte. Why I'm a good chanceo so, it's that there are a lot of

there's not the chance to have a pair, that's that their their parents their parents

are more of an accident or whatever I've had the chance just to have two pairs present at their fashion

so it's something that I'm quite quite actually very chanceous and just to you know

that they're more together presentment François and my mother I'm always also

close of François than my mother it's a man, it has really had really

a turnant in my life. A pair of car exactly really And then you're 18,

Frere and Sour, is that you know, is that you change with them? Malarisement, there are one who is decided, but

justly, I didn't really after one that I had had a few content that I had been in Haiti, because I'm in

Haiti, but in Haiti I had been in a lot my father, my father had had been a lot of

his children. He was pretty of their children. And I'm in Haiti, I've been with my father. So I've been with my friends and sisters, but I was young, so I remember more really. But, so,

those other me knewst, I, I'd know less, at all one, that I had kind of with him, but at the funeral of my father, we all all connected, and I

even, I have even some of, some, who are coming to live in Canada by the so we've

renewed, I have come on a great family. At what age I've arrived to Quebec? I'm arrived to Quebec at the age

of four years. I think in 87. I see, I'm remember well, I've

I've got to at the airport of Mirabelle that exists so it's long time, it's not so you're

not? It's what your first thing, do you know, in this

time that when you're coming? Yes, definitely I'm remember that I've been

in an plane, I've been in the plane, and I've been malade in the

car, and also I saw for the first time of the night. I didn't

what was what of the ice I saw I saw and I remember

even even today at 43 years, that I thought that in the snow

there were there five five years, and a cause that I

thought that I thought there was that I made the feet on the night and

my my feet set enfonseed I cried because I thought

that the monsters would I had to eat but then when I cried and I've seen that my

feet were still intact, I've seen that there were not there's not there's a lot of you know, you know, there's a lot of

because it's when you know when we're young we think that there's some of our life. So,

so it's the same thing for I think there there were there there's got in the adaptation is quite

that's quite because I'm I was arrived too. I'm I arrived at 5 years. And I'm then I'm talking to in Haiti. The first language, it's the Creole, but when we

go to the school, we're to learn the French. And I was already at the school in Haiti, because in Haiti, we're commenced at the school at the age of 3 years. So, I had already to learn the French a little bit. I had more than, I'm talking to

speak more than, and my father, Francois, he said, when I was arrived at Mirabelle, he me said, here, we're talking to and I started to

and I'm sorry, and I'm saying, so it's just some of the anecdote that's just when I'm

remember not, but it's, I think, it's a one of my trait of character, let's say, and there

you've talked to intimidation, of racists, what trace there's to rest of that? It's certainly

not much, yes, I've been, you know, I've subbed of a bit dissemination, a bit of racism,

but as a bit of racism, but as a bit, as I've performed young in the sport at a young age, I think, I think, I'm quite, how

I'd say that, I've been victim of racist as, as well that I performed well in my sport, in my sports that I

did, example a bit, Rachel, who's a noir, in the United he's a chanteer of jazz or

blue, I think. Yeah, Richard, I want to to say, the jazz. I think of jazz.

And, justom, he did the tour of the state American,

and he was very him in the South, in Texas. But, but,

on Texas, we know that it's a state that it was a state in a show,

in his part of, the black would not really not really, it's

a good, it's a good, it's a good, it's a good, he performed in

what he So, it's a bit the same for me. Contenue that I performed well in what I

did I'm more victim of racists contrary to my grand frere. So often, he was

more view, he was very good, he was a guardian of view, and he was often

retranched of the good teams of hockey because the trainer prefered

more the guardian black than the guardian white, and I remember

even that my father François had a lot of many of

a lot of people I'm I know I've done I've done because it definitely

not a reason exactly and then he he we know he we

considerate like these real children of so because he

has had a woman with my mother that there there

there there there there there I'm my and I

can quite this To understand that, this family fusionnel? Definitely, and even more, we're still close, we're still with my mother from 1914, I think.

And we've also, we've feted on 64th anniversary at my, the 20th or past. It's good, it's good. And in the same time, it's a facilitated your... Bonne.

...on arrival to Quebec. We can't... We can say the more integration. So it's really an integration, so to arrive here and then understand the code rapidly, how it's how it's functioned the Quebec. Exactly. Exactly.

It's he who has shown the Valour Quebecoise. It's he who will be also how to be a man. A norm, it's a provider. It's he who amends the structure familial and all. And I've seen that because, you know, there were three infants at charge, and it's he who had the responsibility to make well-viv the family. And then, you know,

everywhere we're talking about it's always the Quebec. You have a great feart of being a yeah, definitely

like I said I'm in Haiti but it's in Quebec that I've been a man that I'm after my

racine asian I'm very very proud of my racine asian but it's it's the Quebec

that's the Quebec who has the personage Jean Pascal and it's on you?

Yes, exactly it's my at my at my I'm at least. I remember also that I've already said that if I gained a medal of gold, because I'm going to the Games Olympic in 2004,

I'd like it was a Libre National of Quebec, that's that's chanted. So, you know, I've got called, Jean, you know, I've got to hear of, you know, there's just like, you'll make me and then four of that, we'll even

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give me on four, so you please. You're going to you're on and I'm

to choose two. Thank you. So, I'm going to see one. What is the most

great difficult that you have had to surmounted in your life?

What trait of character have you of your mother? What type of

amory are you? And what's you have not received to

what you have been in the I'm do you don't, you're

one of one of the in the big few you have surmounted in your

life, what trait character are you to get to be to be that I'm

that you have received to your parents that you have to be

I'm I'm I'm that I see certainly so so

I'm so I'm I'm in in amor in amos

I'm I'm I'm I'm see I'm John Pascal

the um the man who or whatever so but in the moor, I

think I'm a little like a good on an old I'm sure to make to get

to get to get to get to be in a lot also. I'm a man

sensitive, I'm a man sensible. So I think I'm, how I think of that?

I'm the type amourue who like to call to to call to

a to her and what you do do you do you cuisine? Is it

a I have a talent cached. I have a talent cached in the cuisine. I like to cook for the other. Maybe not for me, but for the other, I like to cook. The me favorite

that I like to cook is surf and tuft. I'm good with the fruit of my hair. I'm good with the vionn'ruth. So, it's the men,

the elements that I like, and for your mother's, what's the type of amort in the sense? What's you

do you do? What's you do do you do? But what I'm, I'm doing at 100% to the person. The person will not

know the Jean Pascal will know the Jean, the Jean Salon, the job of every day so often

we can be person to tell to the other but when when we know I'm to know

personally it's there that we know to know the and that we're

really really that's we're that's we're so that

I'm that probably I'm probably I'm I'm a person

very very very avictuous. I am cagolet. Is you dependant affective of the other? No, I'm not dependent on affective, but when I like, I'm, I'm

like I'm, I'm like, I'm a scorpion. I'm all, it's all, it's all, all, out. So, so it's all in all out. Okay, so it's, so it's kind of exigent for the other? Exigeant for the other, probably, probably,

but, but, so, I'm, you know, I'm a person very poitue on the details, but But the person who will be with me, who will already know that of me, it's a person also who will be pointuous on the details also. Is it in court presentment?

Yes, I'm in court presentment. And so, when you're in love, how you sense? Is it the life is more easy? Is it the fact of having someone of other in your life, you know, when this trait of character that, you're not fusional no

but you're a need to feel the presence of the other all the time, at some time, at some part? As I say, in this moment, it's

very very very good. You know, I've been often to be able to be able to I'm

doing a sport individual. So I have the attitude to be centered

on me, even at the limit egoists for to get the people

have a choice to be a little so now now that I

have in a career, I have a relationship with someone, it's

important to not just centered on to be centered on the

person also. And it's something that I'll learn to do you know, to be able

to be able to not just pass to my business to me to be able to it also. Yeah,

and that it's an the pressure you know, like you see, you know, you think

you're to say, because you've decided that, it's it's all the matches

future, all the all the combat future, all the all the other,

but also, you're like, batire at two, it's more

easy than batting my career I'm not I've got I'm a little

I'm a bit I'm affronted all the life a little so now now that

we're that we we're more apisable more more it's it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's quite that it's kind of I'm

more, but but it it's all of the presence that I can put me

on someone that is to me help me to me between the man and the woman and the in your country, by the role?

I'm a question. I mean question. I'm going to say, I'm, I'm not. I'm going to be in the 80s. You know, I'm in a certain role. The men have a certain role. But, you know, it's very well that with the new generation and all, we can all overmell it's a bit, but, you know, I'm open at this also, I'm open

to it, but, let's see, if I live with my family, it's an old to put them to, like, depose, or the bonnardot, it's not the farm, you know, I'm trying, it's, you know, it's the cuisine,

you know, I like, so, so, so, it's the fun, you, sometimes it's me who's cuisine, sometimes it's her, but, you know, There are some things that I think that the man do have to rest in his role

and certain things that's something that has learned that's something that's a thing when you were young. So, that I've seen,

so you repeat a model that you have seen as my parents, exactly, that my parents, Francois, it was he, the provider,

it's the who came in the table, and it's a mama who did the things of the house of

the house and all. So, you have a responsibility that comes with your role of

love of also. Yes, so you We've been in several levels. Definitely.

That's it's kind of interesting that because few of people do you know, even if they're in this

way, they will not they're not, they're not, is that you think it's difficult for for the

women presentment. You know, we're talking about the sufferance of the people, who have to

these issues, is, is it's easy for to you to be able to do you to nom

these emotions? I'm, I'm, I'm a person, I'm a human of the vehicle.

In the years, a man that would be strong, it would be far, it's never, so at a moment

of a moment of a moment of the way, and my daughter, my wife, my first, the first time

that's the first of pleurry. So, we've never lived to be so far.

So, a man, it does be far, it's, it's the column vertebral of the

family, who does continue to the family to be but it's an enormous

pressure so, definitely, definitely definitely it's a gross pressure, it's a gross pressure, but

I'm sure, I'm chasteous, I've found someone who I can, just of my support, who can be in my life, that's my career, or for

the things. So, I'm really complied to this country. If you plour not before the people, is you do you pleur in

your life? Is it in your car, I know, but is there, there's some there, but is there some moments

or you do it permit, that? I'm more young, I thought I was a

super hero. A super hero, it's it's a plurper not. It's bad, the mechant,

it's all the time, it can surmounted to napot any other defy,

but unfortunately, I've learned my depart, that I'm human, like all

all the world. It's certainly and certainly, I'm human

like all I, I'm a heart, so it it's normal to be vulnerable,

and it's that my conjoined me that's normal to play, it's normal to be in that I'm

that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm a tristence

when I'm when I'm when I'm that I'm don't know to day on day today.

You're to name your emotions to get to get to get and they live

because the people there are there are many people who have some it's

It has made cracker, sometimes some of them. So I feel it's good to tell you to accept, to be your and to live your emotions

plenement. Because the super hero, we don't know not, you know, I mean, it's in our

screens, the superheroes, you know, I said, you're just in the band of movie, the

super heroes. Yeah, if we would be not the same so. So, so I'm going to

talk to character has you irritate to your mother? Bontrere or a more

trade or But no, no matter, no matter of which trait of character. At what time, it's such as far as to say, that's really like my mother? Well, I think, sincerely, the trait of character that I've inherited my mom is, is the resilience. My mother, she's parted in Haiti,

with not quite a lot. Yes, she has been chancerous to have met her father, François Lapporte, who has ended, she'll have been, because, even when she had been here in the 80, she had to re-compancy her schoolerity.

So, so, because François had brought the money she could be able to

go to the school, to make these studies. Then she had to have to

start. And then I think that when my parents were disforced, she was she was

she was she had been the charge. It's she was she was the

father and the mother at the she were to bring the

pen on the table She's worked hard. She, my mother had to

my mother, I'll have four, five people in the years in the early in the early

in the years. So, she's really done to the objective. She, she has

always also, she's my mother worked a lot of sometimes

she had two, three jobs, well, they said where when it had,

yeah, she had had had had had been and debaurs like all the

whole in the but as she said, she's not she's that she's that

when we abandon not, it's like we're the chance to to get

because when we have lost, that we're not that we're not

that we have been resilient it's sure that we're going to we're

and why she'll get three, four months she, no,

she she, because with with my father with my Frasas, we

abutons in a house, but it's when we have demanaged when we

remember about, she was she said, she was living in an apartment. And I didn't know,

this, of the apartment, I saw, in the apartment, in the series, in Chabranville,

so, I thought that we were poor, because I thought it were the poor,

because I was young, I had, I had, I was, I was, I'm, I'm,

I'm, it's a perception, exactly, it's my perception, I thought what I had been able to, but it was just a transition.

Just, we had been able to be in some of the duplex. We never had been in the apportement. We've been abated in two duplex. I think in two

duplex, then she was re-battied, she had to have far, and then she rached a little house,

and then she had to racked a more house, and to make, it's like that she's like that has worked.

But you have seen have worked far. Exactly. I've worked for obtain what she wanted. So, with much of resilience, the work, the discipline, and

the resilience, it's that that has forged Mama at recess in the life. And I think it's that she's what I'm inculkey also, that in the life, you have to travel far, he has to be disciplined, and especially, it should persevere

in what we're doing, because if it had not to have to be disciplined, and certainly she had not persevered, she had not obtained what she had, is what she had in the life. And at

what you have realized that you had realized that you'd work for to find out of a bit of

question, what time? What moment? What moment? When when we're young, we're not

count of what our parents we let us, we're necessarily. Definitely,

I think when I turned professional in the years of 2005, because when I was

amateur, I've gained a lot of the time, you know, From the age of 18 I'm independent financiallyly,

thanks to the box and all. And it's really rendered professional when I've lost my first title

of the champion of the world and I've done that I've seen that I've seen that in the life,

there's nothing there's nothing in the life for you really that you're really that you work really

that you want to especially when I've started to pay the impo I've seen that you work to

work you're trying for you're in for that's exactly because amateur I'm paying

but all the money that I'd get the money of the government and it's an non-imposable

at the I don't it's imposable but at it's an non-imposable at the exactly

so I don't so I know really the value of the money at cause of that

and when I was turned professional with the imposition and I mean, too, I've known what, the value of the

money, like $100, it's not, you know, more young, a $100, for me, it was like $2, $3,000, but $100,000, it's really much of course, and, ultimately, it's going to learn, to get his money, to get these things, for reocer in the life.

Is that the fact of having made the money young, it's attired some around to you who wanted to do that? Well, I mean, you know, I've always kept the same friends, it's the friends that I

had when I when I had when I had when I'm the same I'm at 42, 43

years. Yes, certainly that there are some people who have tried to see to collie

and then naively, I thought not that the people had been with me because that I

had been in the life. I knew when I got used when I heard my first

when I came, it's like I've seen that I have seen but my

my very friends are with me And when I was Reveno this month I got organized

It's like That I've seen We've seen to Revene or even other people So it's like That I've understood,

they're not there for the Mereuror They're not by interest For their interest Personal, not Exactly

Exactly So it's like That I've Because I Because my mom I said Sovvue Sometimes,

The people People are not Always always Genties Well And I Everyone, people They're

Always always People, I think I don't. And it's with this eventment that that I've done to make understand, that you have to make

attention to people, because it's not all the people who are there for your interests. I know that's different in politics, it's not a question

of the money, but, you know, when it's a lot of people, there's a lot of people, they're an impression that they're more

more, and when it's the very that's the rest, and that's, it's a grand lesson of view. I,

it's changed really my perception of the people, you know, when someone He wants to approach too

quick I'm like I'm a minute what's what I'm what I'm what you can what I'm

you know and you know you'll have applied in your life that I want to because

because of money and not just an money is that is an champion like you

it's also the glam that comes around there's there's there there's

that you that you know and the money has been a certain moment

I'm don't entry in the details. I'll not know how you've got to come in your account, but, you know, to live with the high, the bas, when you gain, when you pay, you know, you plan? Do you, like, if I get, I'm going to buy me-achete a house? You know, I'll say, because it's these great

montant, when you gain, these combats, but what I'm saying, by the part, it's that, and, by a part, it's that, we, we're doing a lot of time, but it's a cut period of time. So, let's the period, normally, it's 10, 10, 10,000,

it's there that you're going to have to to have a lot of money and then by course all this money that you're in

saying you have to serve for the rest of your days if you do you do it's not for during

60 years and often the athletes we're not not a good education financial and it's not

just the actors I think in general in general because it's not because it's not

there's not there's not because it's not there's a taboo and in plus here

in here in we're a grand taboo when it time to talk of

money. And we're not really education financial. Those who don't have really the parents

who have ensued so you're reason to say it's a great monta, but for

a long, on a period, but for a long period of life. Exactly. It's for

so I've parted a foundation youth rising estate with a partner Tyrejuber

and Marta Mbaugh who don't the literati financial and especially we don't

a base to immobli to young between 14 and 21 and 21 because we think we're 14 and 14

18 years at a 14 years it's there that we're a bit more

the site we're to get more to learn the things and

at 21 year it's there we can start to for

who will affect the rest of our life so we

don't a formation of six months it a

same per month for in with these great professors, the very

intervenants, for their to give, just a base in education financial. And at who it's the foundation?

It's for the young to 14 to 21 years. It's all the 14 to 21 who are who can be...

It's admissible and it's totally gratuit, it's not the job, because why I'm associated

with my actor and Thierry, it's just because I said that if I had had used access to

this information that, perhaps that my would have been, I'd have invested otherment, and then would be able to and I'd probably, you know,

I'd talk about, you know, I'd discusses with my partner, and I remember, in 2000, it was in 2009, 2010, I wanted to invest in Tesla.

Because, because, I'm a visionary. You know, I saw, that in the future, it's been the car electric, that's going to dominate and

Tesla, it was really, it was really all new, and I'd I would have a lot of money. I had not debt

because I was still in a lot of Tesla. So, I didn't know not how much. I didn't

know that a person like me could invest it I think that it was for the archimillionaire or what

so forth. And also, I was young, my life was a rapid, I was in training, so I'm not

too at a time, but I'd have wanted to invester in Tesla, I never invested,

I wanted to invests $100,000. And it's by the that I got that I had just had to

my bank and they said that I'd say that and they were invested for me. And I was

already with a gestion private. But the system private was not like it was... It's not

proactive. Proactive with me to say in what I would invest and also invest in their store

for them, it's a place. It's a place in risk, perhaps at the point of that I had

not debt, the $1,000, you know, the $1,000, we would have not affected at this time. And just by curiosity,

I'd make a calculation with my amy that if I had invested the $100,000 in Tesla in 2010, how many

it would have a question? I'll pose the question, after you do you, I'm not very. But,

but you'll be just 100,000, it's not a million. Okay, 100,000 today, it's in 2010 can't.

Two million? Well, it's, it would be, I'd say, two million. Two million? I'm going to I'll let's

a second chance Wait, is you plus than that Oh, yeah, oh, yeah,

6.5 It would have value $22 million Is you serious, with $20? With

only $100,000 if I had invested the $100,000 and I had never retire retire,

by course, it would $22 million $22 million because but it's that, it's so

to make these pions, where people don't know, and you see, it's fool, you'd

have put it's true, you know, exactly but in At the same time, if I'd could be able to invests because, you know,

it's at the point in my business, it's my house, I'm not quite, I'm paying my house a million per month, I'd say a million per combat.

You know, you know, we're listening, one million per combat, but it's euphorizant, that, people,

to say, I can gain a million with a combat? You know, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, because you're wanting to, you know, because you're to try, but to be the truth,

you, dollar by combat for you to say the reality, it's you're going to

be very very dissue because if we're there's not a million it's just just not

because one I'd say Trudeau but it's Mr. Corney with Mr.

Logo who they're in your money with your gain exactly so let

let's let's they bring 700,000 to your million then you have you

pay your then you have to pay your team medical, your team

it's your team the team the team the trainers exactly exactly

it's they're so you pay your camp training the

management the food so with with a million dollars

you can ask that technically they will stay in your

post clear after Mr. Trudeau after the government

Mr. Cooney Lego and all that's paid he

will be in $300 400 $400 400, $400

$400 $400 $400 $400 But the go and Corner it's not 700,000

they're going to get 550,000 if you're there's a lot of 400 but in the they're like they're like

they're like it's going to normally it's a good comptable and fiscalist you know on the 1 million

we say it's okay you're 3 700 000 to say okay I think you you'd say

you'd say that you'd understand that's right that's right that's On $1,000, he'd rest $700,000. One time that you pay you all the month, it's on around 300.

$300,000. It's so, so, all that all people think that you've made $1 million in your poach. It's kind of many people, you know, but you're not

12 combat per year. Exactly. You can do perhaps one, two, combat per year.

So, at the day, make, let's say, clear in your poach, 600,000 per year to bring the coup in the

your brain, you can even be in peril, you can even be able to get to be it's not, it's not enormous.

So, the people see the part of the product and all the day, it's not a minute

in the future. And in the same time, is it a mode of life that when we're a boxer

like you, that's part like of the jet set also? Well, I'm I've invested

much in my preparation physical, in my alimentation, it's for that just that I

can't have been so long more to two to signy to summon of the pyramid

which is completely atypick that's rare. At the Quebec, it's for sure that you know

to know to be. But it's for sure you know, but it's great, just on the method of

trainingment, I'm going to the United for to learn to the new methods that's

the training that's not accessible here. My nouriture, when I train,

you, I'm I'm I'm, I cup the glutton glutate, glutate,

I don't, I'm not a product leitiers, I pour a lot, I'm going to I'm in the salt, the salt, the sugar, so I'm in limelment

or really, like we say, a mechanic A1, a 1, and it's that just the permit,

because if you don't know, the nouritue, it's our gas, it's that we make. So, if we make

the Big Donald, it's going to be the gas browns, brown, if we make, if we can make, if we can't

be a gas premium, the gas R, come, and it's that that will

to be justly carbure in our activities physical or sportive. Now, you've announced recently that it's your last

combat in 2006, after that's the retrait. It's what to announce that officially it's sure

that it's that it will make something. You know, it's it's, it has been

more than a decade that I boxed. You know, I've been forged an identity

of boxer. How can I can say that? You know, we compare a little to Lubram James of

the box Quebec. Because Lebron James, it's been 20 years in the NBA.

I've been 20 years that's the pyramid. So it's going to me to be looking to

my last combat, all the good thing, has a thing, but

but sopand I think that's a transition that I want to do you

have to I'm can't the mentality of champion And it's this mentality that that who has built in as a

athlete, and I've been brought in the other spheres that I'm after my retreat. That's what

is a mentality of champion? It's really the walkie tick like we say in English, the discipline

of the work, and work, it's persevering, resilient, and in all what I'm

doing what I want, I'll bring these qualities with me to be able to be able to or in the domain of the other point of the rear,

that it's all over the television, at the radio. Like I've always mentioned, I'd like maybe, perhaps to have my late-night show a little, or even, that's-so at the radio, at the TV, because I'm bad with the public.

The public-kebican me appreciate enormously. So, I think that would be really something of natural for me to be able to continue there with the public Quebeco.

What's going to be to make, of this universe that that, that is the box? What's what I'm to make? For you know,

for you the reality, it's really the adrenaline it's really something to march

to the ring. When I boxed on the Cheneboutes, 22,000 spectators, it was

something of extraordinary that we can't that's Bouté, Pascal, Pascal,

Pascal, it's really an adrenaline that I think not that I'm not that I'm I'm going to be able to feel

in a lot of other sphere that I'm in my life. So I think it's the ideal to be on the eye, to combat against

a other adverser. Now, I'm going to do other combat, but it's not against other

adversaries of box, but in other things in my life. But is that that has that

has done you also long this adrenaline that? It's a great reconnaissance also. You know, I imagine that after

it can be platte the life when you know a peak like that of adrenaline. But, you know,

we've asked sometimes, like, why you continue to box and why you do that, and why you

say, like that, yeah, I've got to gas in the team, I'm boxed

if you're a passion, but perhaps in the time I had, I had the fear of

that, of this part of Addernaline that that I get when I barge about the

ring to have because, you see, yes, it's well, we're doing

we're in the money, but what an athlete or an artist view to the

dollar of the money? It's a recognition of our parents, of our people.

And it's so often that I have been perhaps to not having had enough

in my career to have the reconnaissance, the affection of my public. But is

you have an impression that you've had been enough of a reconessence? Or is it

at the height of your atten? For you say the reality, I think

that I have not been appreciated to my just value in Quebec

while that I the fan of bass it's the fan bass that I

have extraordinary I adore my fans are still there

if you say a word to Jean Pascal it's the

first who are at bar for me defend and I thank you. I thank you. But I think for all what I've brought to, for the sport

in general, and especially for the box in Quebec, I've not been after that my just value, but it's the fact that I think that I was before my time. I was before my time. I did some of the time. I've done with the time, it's like the people who are, okay, well, it's normal.

You know, often I'd have some metaphors. I'd ported do piquant in my conference of press. It was not

for me to make the respect to my opposite to it. It was just to make

a piquant for to make a day on the day of the same to see the combat.

But I have always the impression that your combat before. Yes, exactly.

Because it's in the sport, the mental is very important that it's in a sport of an sport of

visual, often the combat the match starts before that the closh shone,

before that we put the pox on the glass, it's really mental, like I said, it's 75% mental and 25% physical. Okay, I want to do that we face an exercise, Jean. Yeah, well, you do you make

your conference of press, you provoke, you know, but you've always been like that, you're flamboyant, you've got these images, we change not of post, if you're your new, but it's also that,

your strength, it's a great force, to us captivate at this point. Never. I imagine in a sense or in the other if we're your

adversary and if we're your fan we're also captivated by the person that you are but when you

make, it's what, it's not a robe of chamber? How's it's a robe of chamber? We're a robe of chamber we're called

like that when you're and then you and then you get to come when you get when the people when your

when your fans are there when you feel you're going you're really really at You know, you know, it's going to go to the war.

But I'm like a soldier. I'm like a soldier who's going to go to the war. I'm like the general of the guy. I'm on my kicker who's behind. I attend,

just the full to acclam my name Pascal, Pascal. I'm saying, and it's for me it's a job to offer a good spectacle

to the partisans. So, I'm happy, I'm feeling, because, you know, to have 21,000 person to acclaming your name

in a state it's it's not it's it's not, it's hard so I'm sure and I'm

feeling yeah and you're alone yeah you're all you're all right but you're

still face to the end of the ring I'm alone I'm alone on combat it's for

so it's for so also that the box is something of intrigant you know it's really a one-on-one

we're on the battle it's it's it it's it it's it it's it it's it

of the guerrists of Rome when they're in the arena and so it's something really special and I'm I'm proud

I'm happy and I'm sure in my element when I'm when I'm going in the ring and I'm I'm afraid

to be to me to battle with someone and you you start before before to your

your face and when you terminate you have plenty of mark in the in the In debut of career, I had

few of a mark, but with that, I started to have a little more more than I'm a bit more. But that, you know, before to arrive,

you think you to do you? Certainly, no. It's not something that I think, and a chance.

A chance. Because if I would be in that, probably I'd not, because at a moment of

a moment of a game of the Canadian, it was against Pittsburgh, and I had a game of the Canadian,

and a moment, I started to look at the Sunbell, and I got her down, and I started, and I started to shake, trembled, and I couldn't not, and then, I got, and then, and the sandal had been, and then, I got, and then, when I was boxed

against the chenbutte, there were all these people, there, in the sandbend, plus the glass was full. I said, oh, my jaw me, and my jaw me shrieked. But, while the combat with the young booted, I never had never perceived, because I had really a vision tunnel

and chance for me because maybe if I had remarked and I had thought of the thing I'm

talking about I'm talking about I'm talking so that's that I've seen that the force of the mental

and have a vision tunnel it's really very important because I boxed even not,

I was in a match of a Canadian and my and my my job shaked when I

really really what I'm what I have done what I have done. But it's

sure that the box we talk of a lot of plain conscience, and, you know, it's a little that's a

whole of the same, you know, you know, you're not to be the other things, you're not,

you're not your other and it's a time, and how we're saying, when you're after a match? After a

match, after a combat, but it's sure that's that's so that's that's, I'm, I'm,

I'm a, I'm a guy, I'm, even, even again, today, my last

defeat, my last mal-suffer. But with experience, it's sure that I'm able to more understand that, to palier certain things, but it's sure that it's never easy for a real

ganier. There are people who, de times, they're playing, and they're offutt, but, me, to lose, it's not part of my vocabulary. How many of the fact? Trice, dissu. It's not just dissu for me, but it's

dissu for the people who me, desue, for my fans. The people are in the last month, and I've got just of living the merchandise, unfortunately,

with a victory. Is that you get to retire at that? Is that you doze? Yeah, a lot,

I can use, it's not a lot, but I can use for, for, for, for several

weeks, and it's not very easy. Is it is not touch to a, symptoms

depressive at this moment that? Well, yeah, I've already a depression.

At the moment even, I, I, I'd, I'd not

that it's a depression, but with the recule, it's there that I've seen that it's a depression. So, yeah, definitely, because when you rest in your chamber, for during three weeks, then, you're not, and you

demand at your feet, to take to your dinner, you'll just be able to soup because you're just to rest in front, in your form of depression. I mean, you've been to be on parley, at the mission, Mariclaude,

you know, I'm saying, I'm remember, I'm sorry, I'm, you remember, I'm sorry, you You know, it's kind of, you know, so, you know, you're acclimed

in a, in a place where you're 21,000 people, the reverse of that when there's a

fact, it's the isolation. It's the indolment, the hound, to not to be able

the of the merchandise. So, you know, it's not, you know, there's,

you know, there's, so, so, so, so, so, the detractors

retry, in your the brain. Now the regard of the other he'd do you know. Exactly,

exactly. But as I say, with the time, I've applied to engage that. But, no,

it's sure. Yeah, but to learn to get it's not the first thing that's not. No,

it's sure, but I think I've never to learn to I'm never to learn, it's not something that

I'm, and that I know and I'm that I'm that's like it's like it's like,

it's like, it's sure that, that's sure, that, In the life of every day, we can't always gain. So, it's not

to learn a Paird, but it's not something that I want to learn, but it's going to face to the music. And when you get, how do you? I'm sorry. I'm happy. I'm sorry.

We've got my 30s, you know, I'm sorry. So, no, I'm, I'm, I'm content, but, you know, I'm not the guy who's going to

go and whatever because, you know, because, you know, there's a victory, there's a lot of There's a lot of work. There's a lot of work, there are of a good choice of

of life, of sacrifice, of desolment, because I'm going to quit often at the exterior to be trained. I'm not my wife. I don't know my family. I'm not my family. I'm not. Justly, all of that, for

to be more concentrate on the task that I have to do with my combat. Niveau-Rose. It's all right. But here, I've not put the card. No, no, it's just, because

you me they've got to You can't. So, you will probably respond to at your if you want to be.

Nive Ruge, Jean, you will me and I'm don't know, you're going to ask you,

you're going to respond to a single question at this level. So, that we've no, we're

no, we're not no longer, I'll to be able to be able to see, which

was your first, what were your time had you would you would you had you

had been in your life? Have you neglected certain aspects of your

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Well, aspect of my life. I'd say that I'm a bit negligence, without really to know the part of because I'm a few

two years I'm in that I adore enormously to see my son and my po

but I have had I was really I'm in I was 19 when her mom was born

unced I'm I was 20 years so I'm at par there's not a

manuel you know I'm in time I'm what is important for the

immigrants often is to cover the three essential. Nourer, abbeyed

the infant, and loggie. So, I thought that if these three were in clueled,

I'd have been in a time of but it's more than that you, there's a point emotional,

it's a point also presence, and more young, I was more or more present

because I had been in assassination in my career, and when I had had to

the apoge of my career. I had a lot of I'm going to and I'm going to my friend

has always got to get and I'm always been present in my manner, but the part emotional

I think I've had a markment of this part. And as I say, there's not

a manual to learn to learn to be there. And it's at age adult

that I have heard that has had been a mark of this thing emotional that

that that I had been more or more present psychologically emotionally for her. I don't.

I have a good relationship with my wife, but she could be more better more than,

I'm more more than I should be more concentrated, on the aspect of my career and more

on my side paternal when I had been young. Is it she she she's she

she's she she's how you have put that when you it's when you when you

I'm trying with you with you with you And I'm going to say denier. You're in the denier, in fact. In the denie, exactly.

I was in the dene, because for me, she had been in front of the day. She had the more beautiful vets, she had been in a beautiful house. So, for me, I'd combed the business essential of an infant, but it's the part of the other, to the other, it's the part emotional.

And it's that he has to try to make to understand. And with the time, it's there that I've been a little more understood and it's

there that I've had been that I've that I've that I've neglected this aspect that of my

life. Yeah, it's that was that would be able what you could be able to on the

emotional. And at after that is that you've changed your way to have your

life? Yes, definitely. Well, but you we're not, we're not change not

of the day of the day, so. There are there The pres of conscience

like that, all the course of the life who are important. Yes, exactly. Now I'm trying now I'm

now at the 22 years so she's sure that she's she's not that she had been, let's,

let's, 15, 15, or 12 years, but we have to make one a two activities per

a week, just by her, and it's par and to try to renewing this link,

not that it has been that has been able to be, and how I'm I just say, I've

kind of a good relationship with my wife, but it's me I'd have wanted that we're

like we're like that we're in and probably we're not we're like so, but not

like that but I'm trying to me reprint to me retrapet on the but to

give the time to do that exactly it's right to give the time to get the

bloods of the past and what what's what's that has done to be

father? What's my fact I'm I'm said I'm a father really

it's sure that it would have been not with a manual of instruction it's sure that... Because it's like if you had quited the world of the adolescence

of a young adult to become a there's is you like something that that's been at the beginning it was a bit traumatic for me

because at 19 age I I'm considerate a little like an often, always like a child

and I have had an infant so I thought a other I thought it a little difficult

but But, but, you know, I've been able to jongler with that. It's not been easy. In the debut of career, it's not been easy. But it's, it's made realize that, justly, that I'm not too alone, that I'm, that I'm, that

that's, that's, that's, that's, I'm, that's, I'm, that's something, you know, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, that's important. I can't just pass to me. It's, someone who depends on, who, and part, there. And, who depends on, but, and it's one of the reason

because her because her ma'er came not from St. Lucie the island in the St. Lucie and it's for so

that I'm back to be back to I'm going to have the guard total of Bonn because Samar

returned in his country and Samar wanted it with her in St. Lucie and I would be

it's so it had been so much for me to let let's part of her with her

and say every month and I'm my best my belle my belle my belle my belle

moment. It had to I pass to her, but I said for her own what's the way that's the rest on Canada or she's in Haiti.

The chance of success of or an option in the way there would have more more more than the life if she

has her rest on Canada that she is elevated in a little that she's so I'm

back to have to have the guard total of my wife I had I think at the

time 25 and I've received to have the guard total of my fee

so I I think of a young of a young man of 19 men who had more or more her father monoparental 24 or 24

at 25 years. So it's not something difficult but I'm not made for me I've done for her, just for that she has

justly more of her life when she will grow and then your family you've

had in this moment I'm yeah exactly exactly a chance that I had

my family I had my friends because also it's not easy, you know, for a child of five-year, to lose her mother, and to

see her, because her is part to live, or live at St. Lucie. So, it's not something of easy. So, feve-fe, I've got my , she, has been a problem with, but

I've always tried a contact with her, with her character of her, and, you know, I'm going to make a confidence that I've never said to person, it's that

at five years, five, six I was saying, I'd say, I'd say, I'd have to see her mom, because I had her kidnap, and they'd never, and then, after that, after that, she had had with the procedures and all, so I've heard that. So, I've heard that she's mature, for that she's more conscious. And it's after, I think, the age of 10 or 9, that I've got to be able to see her, and then, and then, I remember the first time that I'd have given her a cellulair, I'd have I was going to say, because I'm going to go, I'm going to

with my assistant, and a guard of the car, justly, for that could be able to return to Canada Sinsau. So, I'm going to say, I'm a Papa Poole. You've took the way that's afraid, that you had to have, exactly, for, to be, for you're sure, to ensure,

for that allure, yeah, and that's she'll see her, and that, yeah, and that, she'll go back, and that, but, you know, but, It was something a little bit difficult for my wife,

just to not see her but by the course, I'm going to make the reason why and all,

and I think she's sure that she's that she's not for my being at me it was for her own

to her. Yeah, it had a great situation in gerry yeah, yeah,

definitely. You know, you had some, you had some there had the fact, you had the

father, you had to have the security also. Yeah, I would have in security and, like, I said, I'd say, I'd say,

I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, and I'd say, an envoy to her mother, envoyed a person in the mater, it was the thing the most for me. And there's, even, there's a minute

that's saying, well, let's that with her mind. You'd have no responsibility. You'd have been, you know, you know, you'd have been, but I'd say,

but I'd say to me, I'd say to my fee, to surrender to her, and at this day, you're always content to have done with that decision?

Yeah, yeah, I'm content, and I think I think I think that now I'm trying a little bit more the things of the life and the

responsibilities that I've had and the reasons why I've decided to have with me at Montreal. Have you the

impression that a return will be official after your final combat, that's a

new life that's like for you is like a new step? I'm I'm a new new life

but it's more a transition because even with your feet you know, you know, You know, I've said, you've got

put this in-theat, the entrainment, but more like the moment present, perhaps with your prox? Exactly, with my family,

with my wife, because, you know, I was very access, centred on you. On my time, yeah. So my trainment,

on my career. But now, now, at the retreat, I'm more axed just on my family, on my

things that I realize with my children, with my conjoint because I remember when I

had a minute on 12 years I'm in 20 years I'm married I'm going to have my

house, my place to creusair in a bad place to creuset but I'm

by course I've never been married I've never been married and it's something like I

say I'm if I see I see I'm corya it's something that I

want a day and I I've passed to have been around the age of 30 years. I've

never been married but it could be able in the quarantine. We've said it's never too

too late. So, it's not a question of marriage in the air? Maybe be there.

I can't a subtext there in there. Now, Niveau ERAs and company,

Jean, when you say, you give, you give four card, if you

please, you're to respond to one. So, what you have made to say

what you at 20 years. What place have you to get to an

emotion in your relationship in your relationship in your relationship? Is it

a subject taboo in your family and is you comfortable in the sphere

of the intimacyity? One question. I don't have seen regard I don't

have seen. I'm sorry. I don't know. I'm not Is that the sexuality was a subject taboo in my family?

What is the place to control the activity emotional in your relationship in your relationship amoreous? What do you

have to have been a 20 years? I think that I'm going to see. By the

your family? Yeah. The sexuality in a family I mean of a family Aisian so

the actuality is very taboo at the immigrants, especially at the Aisian. You know, I'd perhaps that my mother

me talk more of sexuality, like so I'd have seen more of things and all, but because

my mom was a man, it was a madame who was very reserved, very, very,

like, prunel a little, we, we've never had really of debate on the

sexuality, and I think it's something important for the young to have

some change on the sexuality with their parents. And it's something I

think that if I had used more young with my parents, it would have maybe

changed other things in my life. Is there there there when you

were young? You know, that person could respond or you had made

it to know, but you know to know that he had

to know the mystery, not the mystery but often

I think, I'm That's because of my grandma She said Like that, you know, because the, you know, the society, it's taboo

but the homosexuality also, it was taboo at the family in the family and Icy. And my grandma said often also that the

white were not homosexual, there were not no one, it's homosexuals. And I, I thought when I was young.

And when I saw the first time a white homosexual I was a little confused. I said, well, no, it's impossible.

It's not. It's not, it's not. But, view that it's a taboo for her generation to her, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said,

and she said, but, you know, it's some of, I think, it's important. You know, to be homosexual, it's not

be chenet. It's, it's something of normal. Well, it's something that we're not, exactly,

you know, the orientation sexual is, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, I mean, we're deciding not a morning, we're we're seeing, and we've seen.

And then it's not because you're homosexual, that's not a cause of you're a more person.

It's not not as a person, your attention sexual, your attention political, or,

or if you're even your race. So, it's these things that I think that that I'm

very much in phase and that's not important in the life of every day. But you're

a reason, you know, I mean, it's something that's something that's something that's Is that with your

your feet you've been at least to talk to sexuality? Yes, as well as well

that I'm not really had not really with my parents it's something that I wanted to transmit to my

wife, but it's just that today I think she's always because she and she's about

sometimes they're sometimes, they'd in my time I said, but you know that's not

that's not supposed to be that. You understand? You had too an

I had too of information too of more of the details but in the time I don't

because I was content when I'm talking about but at some time there's

something that I would not have not I'm glad to know because

I know I know what's sex sexual I know I know his business and I

know as parents as as an parent as it was a cool

as we said for me at In the whole of the journey, I'm content that's an open to open to spirit to be able to

talk about me talk. But I think the young of today they're more more than there's much

there's a podcast also that exists that makes, that's that's accessible where we talk of the

like sex oral by example with Joanie or Dysand who really, sometimes it's surprising the subjects

but the women assume plainly they're they're talking with the people. I've seen

my how they'd they'd like, they'd say, but I said, but it's finished by doing it's,

it's a little sensationalist, you know, sometimes that, sometimes that, sometimes, sometimes, I'm really

when I'm seeing, but in the same time, it's that it's over the spirits, you can't,

you know, and I think that you're talking about with your parents, with more more than,

with the art of internet, we've seen many things, I'm in my time, we had blue new,

and blue Nues. There's QS. We had to be in blue, we, we'd see nothing. And it was interd to regard to that. At my time, it's when I was when I was young,

but, you know, I was, I think, it's a blue-nue, that we'd see absolutely almost almost anything, that today, with internet and the, and the,

and the, and the, and the, I mean, I said, wow, there had a good evolution. There had been a beautiful. Is it too

fast? I don't, but it's just that. we're going to adapt as a parent. Exactly. It's, it's

you know, he's a 82 years, and he said he said that he said, he said, he had already

the catalogue Sears, and he had already a section with the women in South St. It's like, you know,

I was, you know, I read, I said, you know, to look, you're looking the family on five.

Exactly, I'm right, I've been, I've got, I've been, it's a review, almost erotic.

Exactly, my, my dad, me conted And so, Edith, we're trying to imagine what he had in the suit gorge, you know

how it's how it's I'm going to you know, an anecdote that I've had used, I'm in

six-year- and there had an elit that had brought a playboy in the class and there all the guys

we'd see that so it's going to my tour I had on the end of the dinner

and so on the dinner and I returned at the house, and I had cached

and then I'm I'm going to in the toilet. I was going to get my repop. I'm going to

go out of going to turn at the school. And my grandma, who had very much, I don't know

why I had to be in the toilet also long time. And I got to know, what's you do that

the toilet and I said, I'm in the toilet, I'm going to start. I know

my grandma that was a detective on norm I said that if I saw with the playboy

I'm will be chicaned. So, And then I said, I will be cached in my patalo but I'm saying if I'm

in my patalo maybe she's maybe she's maybe I'm going to find out of like in the door of the door and what

so forth and what so forth and then she's out of the she's out of a little bit of I'm going to when I'm going to

when I'm saying I'm saying I know what you did in the toilet now I'm asked what I'm she did and she

she said there the When you're the Playboy, oh, my God, I said, well, I'm going to

pass a bad hour with my parents, I said, I'm going to tell to your mother and all,

I said, oh, my Jesus, I had, I had a honor, you know, to say,

to say, to me, to say, I'm not to say, to that. And then when my

mother had returned to the work, my grandma he had said,

and, and, uh, itonement, my mom me didn't, and she was not She said

But I'm She said But I think That's the fact That my My mother We saw that I'd

That's like For her I'm not Homosexual Because that's A big Per for the

Immigrant Often, the homosexuality of their Infant My mom She's not She got

She didn't And for One For one Because I'm not I'm Did you

My mom She didn't And I'm My mom She thought She's That I'm Attir

That's It's Foo, can't even. Is it you think that in 2025

it's still like that? The mental have evolved? The mentalities have evolved. The young, as I'm

mean, the young, we know, don't know to the same way, but it's sure

that my parents, my grandparents will always pass to the same it's

quite impossible to make change their mentality, but the mentality of the new generation,

of my generation, I think we've evolved and we have That's what we've

We've got We've got Exactly, we've We've got Exactly, we're We're talking what it's so we'll

say, I'm sure if my wife would say homosexuals, if it's lesbien, it's a

derangere not, I'm sorry, I'm going, I'm not, you know, you know, a more person

or a million person, your arreattation sexual But, you know, all the psychologists specialised,

by example, you know, who are accompanied these young who are other people, or even

the people that's trance. It's kind of, you know, the dysphory of the when you're not in the

whole, you know, they're not to get back and they say they say, it's always when when the infant

the annons to the parents, even if at the interior, you're very bouldversed, you know, it's a

time, it says, it's a few, four, four, five years, he thinks also,

even if it's you're not to be able to you know, to be able to you know, you're going, you're going,

you're saying that's sure that it's sure it's a but after that, well, you you're remit of that but because the other it's, it's

it's a few years that's like, you know, so you don't know, so it's not like demoling his chateau-to-cate but often

also the parents know, but but after that's, but because the child, it's not exactly, for them

it's not they don't exist not, they, they're not, but because the thing will be it said verbally,

there, it can make accruly a charto-cart card, but, but, as you there have

had been So there's a lot of evolution. And I think that with the new generation, the people, the children, they're not

having to be to say to their parents. At my my own, I've made the last year that's on

the music on, but, you know, it's not just like, it's not just, it's what, the way,

you know, when you're , you know, you know, you've had a super power. You know,

you've seen also, to be in the other sex, even if it's not your choice. And there,

there a, there a, there a, there a, who'd say, well, he's a man, he said,

he said, I'm at 21 in a 21 in a row, there's a man, my parents, and I said,

well, I've said, well, I'm going to do you I'm going to I'm a person on the interior,

and it's, he's, he's, you know, everybody would be everybody, I said, well, it's for a

long time, we know, we know, we're going to we're going to know, because it's it's sure if

it's you that you're that can be destabilizing for the And they They'd say And I thought it

And I think it's Because it's Because it's already complex When you Go to get Exactly There's

There's much There's not Facil and Simple And to see That your And to work That's

It's always It's all the difference Because there's There's always There's There's Because there

Because they're Because they're To live with that Or they're not Souttenue In their

environment And also The fact There's There are a lot of celebrities who are trans or homosexual

and like the girl of the girl of Madgeerson is a job of basketball he's quite that he's

he's trans there also the guy of Wayne a job of basketball also that's a guy who had

made the transition for to become a fab and I think all these things that

just because they're they it's these superstars, and it's some people who are accepted their children,

it's going to help also to normalize these things like. Yes, it's false. Accompany these people,

and not they judge. Exactly. Because if they finish by time to it's been long time

it's murray. So, so the question optor-rezo, what's that the little Jean

Pascal would be, what's what the little person, would be the man

would be of the question? good question the Petit Jean Pascal the

little Jean I think he'd be fair he'd be fired of him because

I think I've been to long I came to long and I think I've

accomplished the good things at all at the level personal academic

professional professional in my life I've got a to learn

but I I'm on the bad way for to be a very good person.

What's what we do you want to want to be because there you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you've said you're thinking, what's you're

thinking, what you want to be able to be able to be able to I'm not I'm not someone

of too exigent when as an athlete, I'm a person at the fact very,

very, very exigent, but now what I'm going, it's being to be a lot of, you know, I'm wondering, you know, in 10 years, who you'd go to do with today, I'd say that

I'm a chef of an enterprise, or maybe in the politics, pursue the traces of my father biologic, who is in politics. Oh, yes, but your father,

your father, you've known, is that you all right, of some, I'm like I said, to zero to five

four years, I've been to be able to know, so when my mother had decided to to get to

Haiti to to come to be able to Canada I had I've had paid a little

with him because he, in the fact, what he did, is that because

when his children had the second they they were in

the United to pursue their post-secondary and And then, sometimes, certain would have gotten, certain

rested. So, he said, I'll let me let me my son start all right. Like that, he will have some more options

in his life. So, that's for that he made to go to Canada with my mother. But at

cause of that, I've per a little in the debut with my father, but I renewed

contact with him at at the age of 15, 16, and what's what's you're impressioned

at your father? It's her presence It had a voice of orator My father He has made

Of course In his country He has Batty A orphanie There Batty a Afti

A school He had pavis There Have been The electricity The water Potable

He made Some There Many My father Has never Has ever A

After his More So it's Something Very You You have In

common. It's a ganian. It's a ganian. It's a ganian. And like my

my mother, I think he has been resilient. It's a man who is a man who was a man

that's a man who is my parents who are inculke these values that I have there's a lot of

in the time in the story in your story, in your story, in the story, in the story, in the cell of

your when you when you're going to you're just to exactly because we

haven't we've not Thank you very, Jean, to have accepted this invitation today. It's a

pleasure. It's rare that I receive a champion like you someone who will mark the history of

the box that has already marked, but I think just to terminate how

you can't you anticipate your final combat official? My final

combat official it's a bit like Michael Jackson Michael Jordan

of Class dance. You know, it's my last night in valet, I feel like it should be able to do it in

sole Quebecois for that it's like a little a celebration of my career with my fans with the public Quebecers.

So for that I think it would be important to make my last celebration with a Quebec we have there, we have

already, like there, I've been an adversary, David Lozo I know you know who you know of

MMA who me of the fletchette. That's not always fine, I'm exactly. I call a chicken

loasoe because he talk about but the combat has never had ever up

because I know who he's not that he's that you're over to have a combat after you

I'm over a car because it's a legend of his sport I'm a name of my sport

so it would so it would be a best celebration because you know the one says a guy

to him mime you're a boxer, it's not but it's in the United. So, why...

Just for the people understand of where he arrive when you when you talk is, it's not of the box like you do.

No, he's these arts martial mixed, like George St. Pierre. Well, like George St. Pierre.

Like, it's the more extreme. Exactly. It's he opened the door to George St.

David Luzu, it's one of one of the name, it's in his post. You're in in a cage

and not in a ring. Exactly. They're in one, it's in a cage, but I it's in

a ring. So, we'd We could have a combat mixed, maybe to have a combat box all that it's going to be in the ring, but that's not that's in a cage, or maybe to do a combat box,

and, like I said, I'd be ready to offer a revenge in an octagon, in a cage, because his name is David L'Azo, and I'm sure that I'm going to have to fall like a little bit like a-o

in the cage. I recognize. Now, it's Jean-Pascall that I'm before me. It's not, Jean-Pascal. So, that, that would be your first adversary

that you would be your first your first because it would be my first because it would be a

great choice it would be something like it's like I said it was in the United so why

we'll probably not in Quebec and if you per is you will you get to

this this time you think? If I'm bad the shop it will be bad

the shop but you don't know exactly I would not finish like that but

it would be that I would I'm So in whatever I do I think I will win.

But he also is a combatant he thinks the same thing. It's for that I'm offered that the person would offer that

the person in the sport of his choice. But you see, Jean, it's what in all those who have

talked to you, the commentator sportive, the psychologist sportive, you're kind of

a error who would always be back against the adversary the most redoubtable.

It's true, you've never to have never to try you know it's because for me for I'm to be considered

the mayor you have to bat the mayor so for battle the mayor because it's

easy to be in dining at Monriard like you have a yeah I can

do you can do you can do you can do you can but as you can't you can't really at

the entire to you if you're the mayor and I always think I thought I'm

that I'm always wanted affront the best to prove to the world entire

that's the I'm sure because we're with Jean Pascal today. Thank you today, it's

a general a general a mix of a two. A melange of two. Thank you to have accepted

to have accepted to open your job today. It's a pleasure and I've said to guard

the patch. Yeah, and I and I'm I'm going to go to your last time

or your last year because you talk already of the revenge potential.

It would probably David Chicken Chicken, loooo. Exactly. The word of chicken is important. And thank you for everyone to have been there today, and we'll see to the next podcast. This episode

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