Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #132 - Sophie Lorain | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

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her fugue, his convictions, her talent, I'm talking, I'm talking, she's really content that she

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we're at place to Sophie Lorraine. Is that always wanted to be mom? No.

Never. I'm I'm not not because I wanted to not because I'm saying that I

would be that I could not have an father. So, I'm certain that it

would be I'm put, well, I want to make a crue there's when it's

had been a a very great surprise, a shock, and in the same time, okay,

well, what's we're doing? There's there's I've always that I think I

know that with all that's very, very well passed, but it had been

in the time, I'm not not prepared to do in the sense where I

know, the co-prinato I'm really necessarily I'm not there. You know, I'm

didn't do you didn't in the mood I'm doing, you know, I've done the respiration, I doce,

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So, as I had very hard to receive I think that's a family

inspiring really, I'm Sophie, before to her, she, she had

had been the chance to have the to have exchanged with her. I'm very, very privileged also, to receive to open your game.

Hello, Sophie Loren. Hello, Marie-Claude. How do you? Well, it's a little fond of rume. So, the voice is a little raw, Keynesiard, but I hope it, but you're not. Auditor-auditrists.

Well, no, not. But, no, but I'm just that you're just that you're going to be very, but I'm functional. Yes, yes, I'm sure I've seen, you know, at two films that I came in 2000 the morning or at Mark Claude. We've talked often of hypochondri.

Yes, is it something that you see still, is it still sensible? I'm just sure gerry, but there are some moments, I'd say, in fact, I'm arrived with the years, to ariming this hypochondri there at these moments precise

of stress or of the work hyper-intense. And then, when I feel that all of a moment of when I sense that all is on the bar to basculate, the hippocondri embark, you know? And it's like,

okay, okay. So, there's a fear of something that's a bad that's a stress that's too, too

far, you have to be calm, we've got to get rid of internet. It's that I said

Dr. Google, they've used to I'm not I'm not because Dr. Google,

I'm I'm Dr. Dr. Lorin. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr.

Dr. Dr.Lorin, you do I've had sooined a lot, but I've always always been very, very good for

diagnostique the other but I'm not chalottes. No, it's ridiculous, so I'm a neazoose for me, but I'm quite quite sharp

for my entourage. Okay, don't, is, is it, is what, you know, if someone is a malade,

and you can't tell you, if you're telling, Sophie, what's what you're not, no, but I think

that often, I've often to have to people who are a bit resistant to consult their medicine, you,

I see that there's something that's going to I'm going to merit, so is it has played some time for

for you, the typocondriac? No, because it's not at that point that's more risible than other

other things. Is that it's going to do it? No, I think not, maybe my

mom or my mother or my sister to say, my son, but no, I'm not, it's not

maladif. It's not maladif, because I 've received some, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's like a debut of rume, it would be You know, you know, I'm not, I'm a good. But, you know, there's some, you know, there's a lot of,

or, you know, these people, you know, when it's a part, it's, it can, it's all right, very, very fast. Yeah, is it Is that you're ready to open your job?

Why not? Huh? For not. We've made, we've made many years interviews with you. I think that. I think it's a fun

that you're accepted. Well, it's a pleasure. So, so if you, it's a question of order more general. Yeah. The questions are the questions

of order more specific. Question Ruge, we're kind of the questions personal. The question

Spaceman, is the question that's a question with the platform Patreon, a question being able to

be able to the number, it is companies, it's sensual and sexual and the question, and the question,

and I think it's a final question, and I think, it's a question, my sous questions are

too long, you've been joker on the table, And we pass to an other appell and I respect

when I'm obsessed when I'm sorry you know you can't you can't you can't you can't

give you can't five five in the reds yeah five five in the okay one two

you've got sometimes sometimes and is that is that is that guide is that is that me guide

it's it makes it makes more than it's that it's me guide no not really

he I'm in Mank one. Perfect. So, I'm going to read the five.

You'll choose one to which you'll have to answer. And after I'm on two

questions on all the questions on all the trait of character has you have you

have you have to work? What place in your life? How

react you to you to the authority? What is your poor default

or who person has made a difference in your

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I'm a bit of natural I'm a air-beck natural. She's a air-bite. You're a bit of natural. Yeah. Okay, but she's what, the impact of that? Well, the impact of that,

is that the problem, is that I'm not not sure I'm not sure. So, the people, I mean, very tranchant, even,

not the wrong of the arrogance. I don't know. In fact, it's difficult for me to it's because I'm not not quite

of the image that I project. Not to so. So, so it's a false assurance.

I don't But it's a commenter that we've often amy, so, force me to admit, that in this, and the impatience, I'd say that's my most, I think

I think it's my more, I think, I was always, I remember, I had submitted your name for an mission. Okay.

And, you know, you're always I'm, you know, we know, we're, you know, you know, you have a force of character,

of determination, that you've always always and I'm I remember the team, Sophie Lorraine, you sure, she

will say, oh, yeah, well, why we're going to you know, and you're coming finally,

you've accepted the invitation, and all the whole, my God, but they're finn? Well,

it's so. He was all t'est, because I think he had a little fear.

Yeah, the people have had on fear. Yeah, but I think also

that it probably probably by the fact that I had had been in the

They were so they were, you know, they were, you know, they were, you know, they'd front of the public all the time, they'd prete flan, so, you know, to the critic, to commenters, to, to, to, to, to, or the, you know, at all day, you know, and when your infant, you've got not chosen, so. So, you're a little, you're a bit, envied by that, and, I was very timid, and I was pretty, I think, to live with all the alias of that. And so it's been a form for me of protection, an armure that I've probably

constructed on the field of time and that's protected by othery or to be envied by others. So, I have always this perspective

to have to try to keep a bit of recule, and also I think that I think I'm terribly afraid to

disover the people. And so, because I see that what I see that has nothing to have anything to

or the work that I've made, I'm another other other

other and I'm my God, it's probably not that they're probably not that you know,

there's always there's always a different to me that's in battle, so it's probably for that

that while my subconscious and my inconscience my inconsiance me of the party, it's done

an air bait, who is an air neutral, I'll have nothing to have with an

air neutral. It's not how you sense the interior in fact what the people

see, is not what I'm what you do you diggage. I have no idea, I don't know of what I'm making more

but I'm to admit that I'm forced to I'm saying for that my major friend you said hey,

your message that's a bad of vocal that's a effort and I'm an effort I say who

I'm asking that I'm asking you ask you're not complicated you know my little I'm a little

something I'm okay okay so I'm I'd listen, I'd say, it's so it's a lot of, you know. It'd have to enjoy your message.

Yeah, it'd have to... Yeah, it'd be able to... Like, you know, a little chance, you know, a person. Yes. But, now, you've talked to your impatience. Is that the patience

that diminue in veiled, or it's, it becomes more ague? No, I, I think that, in my case, I've, I've, I'm trying to

to, to, this patience that, it's difficult sometimes, but I'm

I'm trying to because that I know at the time. Is that that's a lot of this impatience

that? Surement, surely, but, you know, the people don't say, they're not,

they're not, but surement, these times, I'm, I'm not, maybe,

what someone me, or what I see, And I'd say, well, let's see that. And I respond to a way maybe a bit red, or I'm going to make

passant in a car, me tap on the air, I'm not fin. Is that you claxone? What's it? Meza. I'm a little

car, and I'm de-mo not by the right. I get it by that. Oh, so you do you do you feel sentire? Yes,

is that sometimes in your... But, sometimes I'm too, I'm not... But, I'd like that in a car, have a little claxon, just desoled.

Ah, yeah, well, there's that also, because some, it's what I say, sometimes I'm trying, and then we're trying to say, well, I'm sorry, I'm not view, or I, you know,

during the long time, I said, there's a something that's changed at my, there's something that's changed because in

a car, I'm saying, oh, there's more, there's a lot, there's a thing, there's a few, and I've been found,

when I've seen when I've seen a report, I think it's at the facture that the mooseous of the bar lateral in the car, you know, where

the, parbris, rejoin, the fenters are the next are more and more large. It's a fact that you re-truve with a, really, a chain of vision.

It's more restrained. And that, it's a lot of accidents because of that. And a point that I was not completely tarried,

and that it was part of the affair, there I'd have to have the claxon, desoled, desoled, because there's a quantity

of a month, the time that we'll not traverse the street, you know, like, by example, here we're in the Mieland.

We're in an area quite sombre also of the Milan, it's an an ancient place of

manufacture, so not very residential, on the street, not so, not very very cleary,

but where many people work, in fact, because the building is very occupied, and there,

at 5 o'clock, when the people start, there are many people, the young trendy, all that are that's

all that's all the people, if the running choublan were not not a mod,

I'm sure I'm sure that I'm probably attractable three, because we don't know,

the road is not it's never coming and they look, it's it's not it's not

it's not it's not it's really that it's fair because we don't know to me

fracking a cyclist never in it's for sure that I'm for sure that I'm sometimes I'm

sometimes sometimes it's not it's a It's an avertiment. It's not a war, it's not... Have you seen, or someone who opened a door?

You know, I'd like that to have, just a little claxon... Desoled, but not... Because, you know, I'm... I'm... I'm sorry to try to for people, but it's

mal-perseu. It's like, you know, you're not even agressant, but no, I just signal my presence to be sure that... It'd be a little claxon minor, a little cute, a little...

You know, it's like the cordiality. We're cordial. We're the habitual to have more so the impatience is, is you think,

as your mother is very very recognized also for maybe your patient, is we could say that? Is that you

think that's there's like a prejudge like a defavorable? Probably. Probably but I've also that

the impatience of my mother over the years, I've been also quite that she has

got some extremely superpronant because there are a moment where it's with a patience

without no. And for other things, not to do all of some impatience

that I'm that I'm also, we're on partage some some, other

that I understand also, because there's an experience and an

expertise that comes a moment of with the fact that,

well, it'll not, it's, you're not, you're what I'm what I

see, because it's valuable, and you will be able to serve at bonnestian. And that,

my mother, I think she thought that she had had a reason on certain point, yeah.

The impassance is at about what is the most often. Surement. We're all we

all of all we're all in a lot of less and more, we've got to say,

because it's more difficult the everyday now, you know, you're stressed

all the time, all the time, you're stressed to gain to gain, to be to be

to take care, to take care, to take to the time. It's difficult. Yeah. How do you to do

to the authority? Very mal. Have you, is it because it's the way? Yes.

No. In fact, I was, I was a child but I had a lot of

the authority. I had a pair very very much, and my parents, and he

were to be so to see, it's not fine to say that, but it's

added to those who have who have who had had

had They're going to understand what I'm talking in this moment. And I've used, because my parents were very, very occupied, they had engaged a governor. Really, it was a governor who could probably do everything, she would do everything, she said to do with the cuisine. She had to speak, she was speaking correctly. What at the time was a lot of rare.

She would bring to one of the children, but she was very hard and very authoritative. And she was like that with us, and she had had a, she I think, and she had like that also with her

and she was, I mean, it was not, it was not because it was it was not because it's it's not, but I'm suffered

of this authority that, who had an authority a bit and without compromise, and so, that was a

authority, we're not always util, by count, she made the discipline, and the poor that I

have today of discipline me, me, me come of her. I mean not of my

parents who had had an spirit a bit more bohem a little more gypsy

but probably because my parents were absent because he had gained their life

there's there's there's just the reality of their cotidian it's she has

she has put so much of us and this soin that

was so far condition to a a a a

a comport that had in function of his

attents. And so it had some of the consequences sometimes difficult emotionally for no. But you were

a moment to a moment done you, you were rebelled against that? Yeah, in fact, when she had stayed

long with us, she had stayed not long to do with us. And my parents

she adored because she was, like she said, very competent, when my mother had been

there, she had been important, who they were not, you're in confidence.

Oh, very in confidence, and there had to what also because

because it was really, it would do everything, you know, you know, it's going to try the children, she had written the letters convenableablement

without fair of foot of orthograph, it was really, it's really a government, but when she's part,

to say that when I was she was she was she decided what I would be the morning. Well,

the school was quite, it was quite it was quite because we were in uniform,

but when I'd come to the school, we'd and we had a vatement in the

house. And it's she chose this vatement or the vestment of the event of because she

had stayed at five hour, she was in she was in her at the house. When you

did it in the ten years, it's so that. Okay. So, so when

she, she's married, she had met, she had met, and she had decided to go to

live with his wife, well, and then they're going to live on some. But when

she's party, I didn't have any sense of the colors. I don't know how it functioned. I had

not, you know, I had nothing explored by myself, not a lot. And there, Mark,

Claude, I've started to all of all. And it's it's never what,

I'd know, I'd any different color, I'm changed four per

day. And then I had been in a magazine, I'd had to be It was a lot, but he was

really very, I think, I never, I've never re-viewed this ver, of my life. And I'd put it with a chemise rose, and I remember that a day of ploy, my mother had been out of his room and had to be done a while. She had passed in the salon, and she had me seen with the pantalons

in question, and then she said, that, that, it's all right on our magazines to see, I'll never see that, because in the grisage of the bit of the morning, salon flashed, I think that it was digned of what the brigadiers school port to do you know, it's

an impoverable. So, it's, the rebellion, I should say, she said, she said, it had started, like, with something of so futile

that, finally. Because after that, it's like, okay, I, like, I, I didn't know who I was, because I corresponded a

bit to the attend to this person, you know, I had made attention to that. And so when she was part, it had felt that I started to me define, and I didn't know how to define.

So, I, I, I, I was a little, I was a bit, you know, I was very timid and I had tend to be cached in the jubes of my mother, I'd respond to, I'd, I'd say, I was afraid of all and of anything, and then, pretty, uptie, it had fallen by a certain form

of rebellion, yeah, for exist. Because all you had decided for you in the phone Yeah,

all you were put in charge all you had been decided, I had not the

right of regard and we had there was that I had to correspond

to and there there there were many there things I was

not good, I mean that I didn't I'm in division, I'm

really in my post my government the solution

that had to me parking the Saturday after

a callee plenty of division while my my friends were in trying to

work and you could not to get to get to I'm in I'm in I'm not

so I'm all the time in punitive in some in punition and it's and it and it's

not more more to understand and it's true because I have the difficulty to understand

to understand the hour it was a concept very very conceptual for me there was

there was there was not logic I couldn't not my mother, with her

grand, how I say, you know, her side of gypsy, and her kind of

a little spectacle, he had had sat on his knees, and he had had been

the hour in five minutes, and the division, and even not four, you know,

and it's like, oh, yeah, okay, I'm , and I understand,

she was, she did in the show, in the real, in the docility,

in the, and it, like I'm She'd say, wow, okay, she's what she's what she's what she's what she's what, and she's been, and she has seen by that. Because your governorate, she was irrelevable to her parents. Well, she's right, she was, she had an responsibility immense

to her parents. So, she had not to their cheprise. No, she had not. It was a woman also who had conned the war in France. She was French, she had known some times very hard in her life. But that, you know, I've understood that much later. and who wanted us inculke that the life

was not always easy and that it was able to pass out of those efforts without scrased but it's it was too

for me in comparison with my other friends of my party because it's always that I've

been in a mother that had a yeah my mother my mother was, it was the

it was the perception that the people had to my mother at the point. It's terrible Well, it's ridiculous.

It was like a gypsy. It was an bohemian. It was not no mousous of bon sands. We were always those

who were because we had been in a banliu very very badliu and then a manliu

of millionaires. There were the pelado who were there the miron of the bitton mireon,

there were the mateuse there were after that they were coming the saputo, you know,

we had not an affair there never We were there, but we were there. And then, you know, but your mother had already

known, you know, for sure that's not, when we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, you know, I mean, it's flamboyant. It was flamboyant.

It was not flamboyant ordinary, she promenna, a mini-jup, with these peruque, some d'Ale romaine, she had an Camaro, she had an Camaro that she had

had an accidented, and they had had applied to garage for say that the color original didn't, in all they'd they were not

in the garage and we don't know what's what we're doing my mother is not there but what's

what you have like that when my mother is the last time the car pink was with a

door with a toilet decapotable and the interior blank and we we had

colled some and I'm there's some some there's some

these stickers so it's that it's that it's it's it's a

had made the co- the co-foo of my mother, a bit of and the perception

of this because I know, when you say, when you said, you know, is it

had an impression? Well, yeah, it's more conventional. It was very conventional.

The madame had to their marriage at the morning, they parted at the

time, I'm at eight, nine, hour, and he'd come in seven, and certain

in limousine already, and so, and we, my ma'er, my at the school, she was in pyjama, and if

his mantle by and then we're saying, no, no, no, we're going to bring the bus, it's going to be very correct. The governorate had cullin'lid in the shop in front of to show to make a salad of piscan li, I'd do you. I'd say, no, no, if you'd like, I,

I'd think we'd have completely at-cote of the tract, you know, completely, my mother received Dominique Michel, Donald Lothrake, she, had made these pool parties. I'd want to do that. I wanted all that.

I wanted to be in the mule, like my amy, you know, but what I understand, it's an

psychotomic you know, you're a gubernate and she's strict, regil, yeah,

and you decry your Mere, you know, a gypsy, who is, a spirit who is,

who is not of his time, he's like, that's, so you know, the little Sophie,

there, that's not so, it's not easy to find a no, it's, no,

it's not because it's two the world, completely to the opposite one of the other, you know,

it had, I'd adore the universe of my mother, because it was obviously, an universe

much more ludic, a much charmed, spectacular, with the paillet of the color of the life,

the other was, the universe of the governant it was, it was lugubre. So, I wanted

to turn to the other without knowing there was obviously, but in plus,

you, of the carty, things that I didn't know at the time, the parents had some problems, the grave problems

of the health also, of the nuys, you know, many of these women were, they were in their foyer,

so there, so there were many people, who were some of the dry martini at 11 o'clock but I,

I didn't know that, I had something that you'd something that you know, exactly, my mother

had probably the most straight And, you know, and there are almost monoparental, my parents are separated, and who gained well their life, there were not, there were. And there were more than these mini jupes and there were,

there were, no. But it's sure that you're a bit timid, like you said, like you said, it's a lot for an infant, because we're not all ready to assume this and to defend that a bit in the regard of the other, of the entourage. No, no, no, no.

I wanted to hear anything to say I'd want to defend that I'd like manil it disappear

oh, but it's something that's what you know, it's a change after after a not long,

not long after, but there have been there where the women were much

more at the house, you know, and I think, I'm talking,

the end 60 debut 70, it's not it's not it's like the unerra

but, but there there were there were more, I remember, to have seen the mayor of my little of my

little bit of my friends, of my friends, and they're all these women of very, very rich, to be in their house, and

prepare the breakfast, and attend to the autobus school arrive, and they'll let's the children, and all the

five hours, the children had managed, they were their marriage, who arrived after the time after the

time, they're having prepared a other repop to pass a little time with her, she, it's an other

, But, you know, I've met with these women that, you know, who've lived that, you know, one, it's a engineer, and she

had to imagine, there's, he'd be able to, well, my colleagues, my associates, and my associates, vying to come

to make a house, so it's saying, well, she said, she, she, she, she,

she said, she'd tell me, she, she, she, she, it's been, it's been, she, it's

terminated, and she, it's, it's a, it's a, it's, it's, it's,

it's, It was like that. You'd sorted not to that. So I said that there were many of they had they had these

lunch date one of two per week where they had to eat at a center and they had to buy

their little dry Martini or other other stuff of my mord the little diekiri

and they revened in tabarweat at a house at the time. But you know

that would say I'd say I'd say I'd say I'd It would, I think, I think, a series that makes really, you know, in relief,

all this changement that. You think it's... You think the young don't are not conscious to see the young women? No, but all the world thinks that the feminism

and the right of abortment and all that, it's not true. No, there's been there. Yeah, yeah, the grand battle. Yeah, the grand battle where, when even these people have reached

to a way more to change to change of things without to make cool the sand

and in it's by going and going to search an equity also a certain

form of equity for to have a certain form of parity and it has been difficult

but yeah when I when I talk to when I talk to when I

mean exactly all that that's known among like the

after old it's it's interd it's interd in plenty of countries in the world

again today in 2025. More than than ever, yeah. More than we know

we're afraid of a recule, but you know it's been what's what's been to do you

know what I think there's a lot of reflection and I think we don't have time of tools, the young

have not time of reference to understand and yet it's recent in the history.

Yeah, yeah, it's quite recent, I mean Chantaldegg where we've done a mini-serie

Alexi and me with there's not more than the combat of Chantaldegg, it's all recent, it's the end of

80, 90, yeah, I'm just really about that, this saga that.

But that, in the fact, when you have decided to make the story of Chantald

Deg, is that your need to make it in light to say, look, it's,

it's been that in a past rapproached, it's that the abortement. Yeah,

I'm with certain 's advanced to level political, of Mr. Polivre, we're not not known,

that it's already very advanced, he and his beers on the fact that he would turner maybe on the question of

the abortment to the party conservator. And then after that, I've heard in the different

milieu, and I saw the Trumpist to bring the power, and I'm saying, a day

or the other, we're going to reculing, because the people have no idea

of the of the battle, of what has been, the young don't know not that, and it's important,

how it's like, it's like, it's never anything like, and in plus, you know, the heroines feminine,

there are not so, so, for all these reasons, I thought that it's important to let

at the screen, we'll have 21 at the time, she had all

she had all, for debat of a question also important,

also crucial, and that we've treated very very durment to until

to the end up to have there's there's there's to the court subprime

of Canada for to find to people and there in plus there was

there was an other question that was that I have made

more attention when we had because I want to

because I want to I want to because she she was with

a child very violent and she she had

been not of that because that is, among other violent,

and I'm afraid of the repercussions. Of that, person to the person to be in it. And again,

today, this violence that's something that's difficult to make to accept to the society and to make

accept it in justice that that's not, and the proof of that, is that each month there's a

woman, there's a woman, it's a bit overspersant, it's, it's not able to be

able to be even 25, to make recognize that, it's a problem. I think that it will change? I hope that it will change.

Is it going to change? I don't know. It's an immense question to which I can't have to answer very net and very precise because it's englobe

so much of problems. You know, there's so much of problem of health mental, there's a problem of lack of confidence in so.

You'll be that excused not all, but it explains can't get to understand. Yeah, it can aid to

understand and it also these voids access to know how enterpren the garrison

or the place in charge of that because I do often that the misogynies is international

it's planetary it's planeter and then it's declines in all the religions in

all the communities so we can be we can revindicated the Christianism or

be a Muslimman or no matter, but all the religions whatever they're whatever, and all the planet, denigre 50%

of their population. It's often, you know, I say not that's majoritarment, but it's that the same. You know,

in the case of the violence, the women who are victims of violence, it's long when they're on that they're

also. It's very long, and it's long also to recognize these proper mechanisms of defense by that.

It's for that I say there's In-dissue of this violence, there are these mo, M-O-U-X and non-M-O-O-T-S, there are, there are, there's there, there, there are, that we don't, that we're not in charge, you know,

and that the society, well, I don't know if she has chosen, but she has not the time, or it's a charge too strong strong, or it's too confrontant, but we, we're, we don't, we're, we're not, in consideration

as quite. Is it ready to pass on the level yellow? Yes,

you know, you know, four, yeah, four, yeah, four, four, yeah,

four, yeah, four, yeah, so, so, so, I've got to , you know,

I've got to my joker, there's a , yeah, you've got to choose one, I'll choose one, I'm

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four there. Oh, my God. Is that you have not said differently? I'm going to I would say, why not

the relationship with the money to have been over the time? Okay, perfect. Because it's

a question, it's a good question to which I have not good response. The

I think of the money, I'm seeing a moment of a moment of a day, not a gauge of what that's something, but that's an tool and it was, oh my God,

how to say that, which it was it was to serve with a little to worry, it's to say that if we it's not

too, he can't the feet, and if we don't be not as to serious, he can't

the case, so, so you have, you have, you have, we're trying to, to have a relation

to have a relation with for not to not always cede to the but in the same time

to understand that if we're not in mal-futue and there and you don't know so I think

the money is a good baromet for guise and his patience and the

convotise and his desire and it and it's the need these demands

I think it's and in same time it can be anxiogen It can be anxiogenre.

So, for not to let's apped there, there's to be talking, you have to learn and learn to and develop these aptitudes

for well mania the tool. Is that when you were more you were doing, you were doing? No, not to do

too. Like the colors, I didn't know, I didn't, I didn't not, we had not applied

really, because my mother and the argent is a catastrophe. My father also, But they had all

the two, I'd say, the soci to make attention by boot, because he knew that they were in or they had

been in a manque. So, so, so, I, like, I had not

had not explained, and I had been and I think that it's important, to try to explain the

money to the money, to, not only only the value of, but also, the,

the, of how to, how to come to serve. So, that's something that's something

that's something that's that's because I've seen too of people because I'm concerned and I'm

surprised by that I'm saying they've got they've seen something I know so I'm a curiosity

about that that's because it's like it's like it's it's sullas it's for that

I'm sorry that I think it's you know it's about you know when you when you're not

when you're not that's it's a it's a calver It's a calvarez. It's a bit of sleep. It's a lot of. That's why I say it's a lot of stress.

It's an obsession. And I've seen also people with the money. Be very anxious also. It's a lot of, to have fear of pern, to have fear of, you know,

to be fissioned by the fear of the perth. Well, it's the base of all, it's for that I say when you when you commence

to comprehend the manifestation, because I'm not be esoteric, but in the sense so, let's say that, so let,

or how you you, you, you, to comport with Hussan, and how it it's at

tattain, well, you'll not, that's sure and certain, but you will be able

to be able to say, okay, that's a phase in this moment where there is,

but, as the English, save a penny for a rainy day. It's important to

make attention to what later you can be to have a bit of if you ever you've got

difficulties. But in the same time if you have been pinn you have you've got to you've got to

you're free to do you know while you're in you're in you're going to you've got to you've got to

you're in a relationship with the people, it has affected all I think that's the base of

so there's there's really to learn to respond to to say by the ne with the right?

And you you've got a new you've been that you see that you You know, it's never what you're going to attend? No.

That, you've tried, in fact, I don't know if you've ever seen like that, but is it difficult? Yes, yes, because, yes, and no. In fact, it's a lot more than it blew because I've always had, as I've heard, as I've heard of well, but I've been

sometimes been a little bit too, I'd say, not prudent, yeah, perhaps too prudent, because I mean, my God, okay, there, a minute, I'm a woman, okay, I'm a comedian. We have not the right to the surant-chomage.

We're not pretty or serious by the bank. I mean, it's not sure to have a role because there's a lot of good comedian, even more than a good comedian. You know, it's the case. At the time, it's still the case, today. So, I'm saying, oh, yo, yo, how I'm going to do you, How I'm, how I'm going to be

when I'm going to, when I'm going to, so, there's that I, you know, I've diversified my , you know, it's the same thing, you know,

to put me to put all over the same pan, you know, so, you know, there's, it, there's always that I, where I could

go, I'm, to say, these, these, or some, I'm, to know, what I'm

going to do how, push a little more more more than my METY, on other things,

develop other aptitudes. Well, you know, the people, often, you're going to try to bring a formation

on this or or in that, well, I've put a formation in the life, it's to say, I'm

said, well, I've a formation of that, I can't have seen if I,

I've already did that, what I'm that I'm in a center that I'm and he will make in sort

that I'm going to make sure that I'm not frustrated, because that's been important, because

if you your, I don't, I see not, your passion in the life, is to write a romance, and you have to become a dentist to survive, and that you know, it's not

the fun, you know, even if you gain your life at my final, I wanted to in the same domain, it's for that I tauted

to the terrain a but all, but it's a ported fruit, but sometimes I thought that I'm maybe, you know, at 30 years,

I thought my career had finished, at 35, I'm 20, oh, 40, I mean, I had a little that. And I was very, I'm

saying, my God, my God, you know, you know, my Sophie, that you have to attend to exist in the regard of the other? I, when I took the, when I

took the conscience, when I was I said, well, we're going, let's, it's been null, that. Because you have

you to do you have to choose? Well, yeah, you have to be chosen, Mark, Mark, Lowe?

I, I don't know how you do you I mean, I think I think it's the I think it's one of the things of

the things you're going to presente before the pair and there you're going, you're going, you're going to

and then they will decide that, I'm going to be you're going to be able to be to be able to do you're doing your life

practically, you imagine you've had been there have been but it's not evident it's choice it's just to say

even without auditions there's a that's the world who you've chosen by the eye you know, you know, you know, your little cards on the table, well, that's, it's, it's, it can be these photos of, you know, four or five actress,

and then, well, you know, there's a photo to do, and they say, they're saying, ah, I, I have to be here with her. And now, after that, I'm

to have to be able to to be too great, are you too young, are you too old, are you too old, are you, are you too megre, are you too gross, are you too brown,

are you too blue, you're at the infinite, because the The work of a mentor-in-since, it's to create an universe that's conform to what he or she has wanted to do, to create a family that will be on the scene or at the screen, and then you've got to be homogene, we've got to fit there. There's a lot of imponderable.

There's a lot of reason for that it doesn't function not that, but I'm... But it trance vulnerable, that? Extremely vulnerable. of the force of the actors and I think I think here

in plus formidable because I don't know we're not so very paid than you have trimed

due to gain his life correctly you see a very a very a very a very

quite quite a year the money in general it's more of 20 000

per year so so that it's unerabilize it's incredible it's incredible

it's really that the young in area who will at all at all pretty

be to be actor or actress, will be known. That also, it's an other phenomenon that comes

to get to do that. So, I'm saying, oh, la, la, there's I think I

think I have to work to work. Yeah, because that's sure that you're in the

well, yeah, but, but you know, it's true, and it's very, and

it's not very, you know, there's certain actress of my age who work

all the time, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, I mean, perhaps that I would have been

to be able to, the grand source of stress if I had just joe, you know, but maybe, but perhaps, but, you know, that's, probably,

that you could have been used, you know, you could just do it, you're just to do it, you're just to be doing, you, to be the regard

of the other, is, I, see, I can understand that it's something to live. Well, there also the

fact that, by course, with there, I'm a certain, how I

say, and that I could not know the time, because I didn't be there,

but it came with a certain assurance, a certain... You know what? You know,

you know, and you know also what you can or want to do and what you

can do and what you can give or now, you I mean, I mean, I mean,

I'm you know, I'm I don't, what I didn't know, what I couldn't know what I'm not the same than I'm trying

so, so, so today, I can't do you know, and I'm doing it's not, is that will do you know, or not,

I don't know, I don't know, but I, I, I, I, I, have a lot of tricks, for me on

to help, and to help to you, and to propose something also, because an actor, it's an interpreter, it's an interpreter,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the relation have not evolved

by that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but at 30 years. But at 30

years, you, you, you're like a chien fool, you know, you know,

you're going to get your family, to be perhaps, you know, to find some of

some, to work with people that you interest, having access to

something of a particular that you seem that you want to and you

have to be and if you don't, if you if you're never

to do that, there there's a moment where if you decide to do you decide to do that's very important, it's that's

that it's going to it's not that they need to it's not that it's not you bring the decision with yourself and you say

a moment okay, okay at a minute all, all what's that is that I'm able to live that, is that

I'm capable to live with that? Is that I'm made to live with that or not?

Because if I'm, if I'm being maloure or maloureus, I feel so maybe to

decide to to go to do this and maybe maybe occasionallyly to come to get to

but not to say by the other no, no, that that's like to get to get to

the pressure without to get to get to get to get an abe you're

you're taking a bush and but how the little sophie timid

yeah who would not too derange that you want to get got to

she's becoming not fin and derangente she Now. No. It's a work of a life, so, Marto.

But how you're to say, I'm going to be an actress? You know, to take this place, that's... That's been very difficult, very long and very laborious, in a certain sense,

because I'm, I have a lot of admiration for the people who, for example, they're tissue of a family that has nothing to have anything to and that they say,

hey, I'm, that's that I'm that, it's that in-ver-and-contre-tose. We're all. You understand. So, so the

way is not designed to have done, there's totally not a door open, I'm very I'm very

an admiration for that. Now, when you, at the inverse, you have these parents

who have made this that, you know, you know, you know, but there there's a

something also that you don't know that you're to say that you have been the perfect

inconscience of the dangers of the you know, you know not, what's what's

what's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, a longer

of the time, that you need more than other other things, that you can't

more more, and that more, at least, you have much, much of

a lot of time, well, you, you're much more a lot, and you're

much more of power, I think, but, you know, what I do, it's, it's

for me. If I'm if I'm like Xavier Dolan, it's not not a whole, you have been there's not in the middle, and it's

there's not to be able to get what he is today, you know, and there's not this kind of kind of,

we don't have not the same education, not much, you know, it's, but it's not not able to

force, but me, because I know, I said, I said, to know what he had to do you do it,

is, is you're feeling to do you when you're when you're when you're when you're , you know,

the young woman, But I think that, you know, I've done for a lot of reasons, and I've done because, well, yes, I'm in this mity there, but not time, no, plus. I think that the desire profound was to show, to

show my parents that I was able to do something, and that could be proud of me. I think, at all the part, you know, my mother, sometimes, me regard to, when I, I said, my God, who'd have been,

who'd have crue? Who would have, who had, who had, who had, because she'd have, where I'd where I'd me re-voyed her, she'd

and she had the timidity and she, she, all that has nothing to have anything about with the talent. You know,

that's working, it's developed, at least you're really boucher as you you'll get

it's the work for a lot for so. And it's the the counsel the the most

judicious that I've received in Bout of LING is that it's that the work

is for 90% And, well, yeah, there's a bit of chance, and, yes, there's a bit of talent, but I know so many of the men who have been my mind of talent, Mark Clod, and who, who, who, so, so, yeah, I'm reconnaissance, I'm a reconnaissance, I'm a lot of, I'm sure, I'm not sure of that, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm always a bit surprised

of the, of, the journey that I've percourue, always a bit of surprise. And at what you're talking in love with your mission? In it doing, in it In doing, in the In it's really in the, it's a good question because it's a succession

of croasement of affairs that have made the plain possession of this meteer. Primarily, the discipline that we inculke when I was young, that this governorate that made inculke,

who me has served to have the patience, the determination, but certainly the perseverance, to comprehend, and, and to search,

and to work, and to buffet and to learn. That, she, she made that. After that, my

mother made all the coat of this mity that, of the rire, the

kind of that has so much of the humor, of the, the, the,

the, the, the, she, she, she, she, my

man, has made a other regard, the serious, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the the co-cote noble of this

mity, the coat of the great classic and then after that I'm going to study in the English,

I'm there in a other language, a other work, I have made a other work.

So, after, after that, I'm going to a moment of a day, I've got to find a

code. You know, for me, it's become like to find the code to open

a car, I'm saying, at a minute, I'm I'm going to find

the code. Because I me I was found very nil at the part of gossed

I'm going to get a good number. You know, you know, you were probably, you were in the

coff? You saw, the coff, exactly but I said, you have to it's just to find the good

combination, and I'm saying, I'm trying, I'm totally got the other,

that I'm got the other, and when I know it tried, also pretty this combination

could tell to be, of a little coff to a car, don't know, that it's it's replies

of a joy, a sensation of a profound. It's profound. Because there there's nothing that's not that

you can't, neither the money, nor the glory, or what it's you know, you've got the impression

to have conquered something by you know. And you've amed that. And I've amed that and you

you're just you're because you're, you're incarnate, you've incarnate something, you're in

something where you you don't, you, you, you know, you know, you know,

you, you, see, all the, I see, the, the, the,

the, the person you know, and you say, okay, it's that, and I,

then, and I could also be used to play to play, and I could also

do that, and all the questions are probably validable, now, I'm,

I'm, to make a matter in a matter in, a matter, to make a proposition,

and he or she can choose. I've done my job. I've seen what had to do with. I've got to dooded.

And so, is that you have liberated to become a person? Well, it's liberate some of

physically, it's liberate intellectually, because at a moment to know, you feel of, like I

do, like I do you mean, of all the people, you're, you're often that,

sometimes, or they have a gastro-apuvantable. They arrive on the scene, they are able to chant, they are able to play, and as they're able to play, and they're also worse than before.

But it's true, that. There's something of the moment where you start to be invested, really, really invested, or you'll

do. Your core not tappartien more, your head, you're in a state of grace, really.

And you get a pleasure. It's a It's a beautiful sensation that you've been to decry. Well, it's like a athlete, you know, you see, you know, you know, at all the speed, and it's that, you know, it's to pogny

the boss, and to pony the flag at a good place, and then, and then, and, arrive, and abe, he's even surprised by him, you know, you're still the same pleasure when you do today? Uh, yes, yeah, if, if I, if I, if I'm the chance

to play something, yeah, oh, yeah, you'd have, you, you abandoning again the same fashion? Yeah, yeah, because you It's hard to find it It's hard to find out It's for so that it's a dope It's for that it's for so that it

It's for so that it becomes like a dope Because you want To have access To the more Great choice possible To the choice the more We can't put not To play

We can not You know, I'd say Perhaps more Today than it It's at the time But the notion To play, Dyer, it's not

Fair, we do It's just to play It, and in all the language, it's rewain to joy. So, joy, it's signify, it's obliging, it's obliging, it's to be in something,

it's to let's go in the oblivious, in the other choseous, in another costume, a other costume, an other, a other life. Oh, I feel that fascinating.

I think it's fascinating. I'm sorry, I don't know that, what's got to receive to your parents and who you've been the time? Oh, yeah?

Yeah, because my parents were, it was to create at the time and then they've been they've been

there's there's been there's there's been the fondment of this material there was pretty

there there was there was there was Grasian Jilina just before them the tourney

Grimaldi so they were coming all right and they're to build they're not there's not

they're not and so and so they're passionate probably because he was very passionate

by what they were they were obliged to get really to invest to invest

so I'm like I'm like to have more with them with you yeah but what

what's what's what's the is the spontaneity is it is to see do you

see if you see you know yeah it's sure there's there's always a

object to well you know like you see it's it's

exactly exactly what I did I'm my my were

not she not when she She didn't prepare not the soup you know, when it

arrived, it was like party time because it's very rare. But in meantime, the mayor

of my friends, he had the soupy, but he had contrary or he had,

automaticised, yeah, automaticised or am to not be with their married, to not.

So, your mother had always a folly, it was a thing, it's an event. It's an

event, when my mother arrived, it's an event, there was there was

something of gay in the sense, really gay of the term, of fun, of ludic, of beau,

of reassurant also. You've had an infant, you've been to be sensible to that, the time that's

with your I think, I think, is that I have done to the time that I would have

wanted, probably not, probably not, you know, it's very difficult to do I don't know

what we have not received at this moment that? I'm a great culpability

vis-s but that it's the prope of all the kids, I think, or of all the

human. Is it Is it it would have that you have felt like you work maybe?

Maybe it would that I have felt certain choice that I'm different for him,

there's some things that I have not understood also, some things that I

tried of the movements that I have tried to reaffed to my infance

for you inculke something that I think I thought that he would be

not the same person it's not the same context, it's not the same context

it's not So it's a bit naiso of my part, but, we know, we're perceiving only more than, you know, and that's what? Yes, yes, yes, yes. You have a good relationship? Oh, yes, absolutely. I love.

It's someone of extremely intelligent. And I'm going to where it comes, because, but... But, you know, at all right, but it's extremely intelligent. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, but I'm just an intelligent, but he's like, there's something of specific, There's something very specific to him and he can pass

also for a certain form of arrogance I'd say, but it's someone of, don't I'm very very fair, yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because there's an intelligence, emotive, in fact,

that I appreciate a lot, that's not only an intelligence intellectual, because that, you know, you can become an advocate and you're becoming a

good advocate, that's different. You understand? What I mean, it's that you can learn but you're at your

service and to your service and the service of the service of the other how you, and your and your

and your experience, you know, in this sense I think with all the context in the whole

he has been to be all the all the thing, because there had been there's been

also in his life I think he's he has been and that he becomes to be

more and more a being a complex and interesting. It's trang Fierre?

Yes, very, very Yeah. Nive Ruge. Yeah, so, level of Ruge,

it's personal that? Well, we're not personal again. Ah, okay. Uh,

well, you mean three, so you know, finally. Finally, we'll have done it

in this game, well, well, what is your great source of insecurity?

At what? At which question profan, Alexi, replied, so,

what is your report with the death, Ford was built on

the belief that the world doesn't get to decide what you're capable of, you do. So, ask yourself, can you, or

can't you? Can you load up a Ford F-150 and build your dream with sweat and steel? Can you chase thrills and conquer curbs in a Mustang? Can you take a Bronco to where the map ends and adventure begins? Whether you think you can or think you

can't, you're right. Ready, set, Ford. Oh, at what I, have I respond to three? A one, Only, one, which is the

the most source of insecurity? Uh, what is the question about, Alexi,

respond to, what is your report with the death? Well, my report with the

war, I'm talking about, I know, I'm sorry, you know, we're talking about

Alexi? Okay. So, so how how many of you have, it's been

long time we've it's been, it's been, it's, it's, it has been, it's,

it's, it's, we're, we're, it, and, We've been together? Now, yes, we, we've not

we've been very, very, very, very, very long time. Why? Because, I'm... Because, I'm... Because, I'm...

Because, I'm not sure that the living ensemble do not at more long term,

the relationship. Okay, and there, you have made the choice to live to live in?

Yes, is that difficult? But I think we're at a moment in our life where it's more, how I

say, it's more difficult. I think that we have, we have, we've made, a bit of a lot of

so it's more difficult. The fact also, I think, I think, we're trying, that the fact

that we live an cocktail explosive, because we're not a cocktail explosive, you know, we're not our ancient bureau,

oh, yeah? The local is here? So, have you you've been obstinies this locale

the mure if the mure heard of that? I don't see the whole people

at all that's like, oh, that's that's that, okay because it's like normal

for you Oh, and we're verbalise no, it's not it's not that,

what's the what's what's the because the things go out because the things are

we're a very pretty company you know we're there's we're

not productor. We're really some creators who are developed by the force of things and we're doing the things in our image, or with what we have to work, you know, but

it's sure that at a moment there, there, there, there are questions of all order that's pose, and at a moment of it, you know, we're trying the decisions, and you have to try to arrive, and there's, there there are some, there are the moments

where it's where the... But you live well with that? I'm, I live very well with that. the people, the consensus, excuse me, I've been in the misery with that. I don't know. I like that you're talking to. I see. It's not a matter. Well, it's because

sometimes it's delicate, that. Yes, all right. I think, I think, I think, I think, you know, especially if you travel, and you have to do you fast-avancet something. It's laborious. But we're kind of, in the

epoch, these emojis, these emoticone, and we're always don't know like an intention one of the little cures you know a bonoom soured there's like something of this order that

that had not before you know I've worked long time in politics when you were to do do business but we're we're doing the

things it was carry the politics yeah it's that's that and you're saying if you're with these ideas

it's not there's not there's not you're not it's not with an entance but it's in group

so you're in group so you to put you to put in a way to get to get to get. And then you're not

the first you're not so I'm so I'm I'm used to get to get a something that

so I'm so I'm the notion to all the time to finish on a namaste

I'm not with that but but but even not the namaste you know the notion

because the namaste it's like if again there we're saying ah the

namaste it's like the boot You can't know, now I'm at times, you're trying to to try to me depose, but it's that in the milieu professional or in the life, there's a lot of, you know, it's just

like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you're able to be able to be able to, it's, that, the difficulty. It's not always evident? No, it's not always. Have you heard of, you think, do you think, Oh, yeah, sure, sure. But, but if you, if the people me know

a bit and if they learn to me know it. It's because we're also I live with these responsibilities

that are quite enough and I'm in general to not too the past to others but my stress

a moment of a minute it's to make to make sure it's inevitable and that it's a

little maloure because because I try to levite to the possible

to a person but there there's there you have there there's there

because if you're we're in we're serious, but I'm also, I think, and I hope,

and I hope, of an grand aid. And the people with who I work, I want that they perform, I want to be good, I

want to be in avant, I want to be who they're who I feel to choose, but there are some a minute,

I'm, I'm much in the no bullshit approach, I, I'm, I'm, it's so much, it's too, it's

to go, it's like clearly and honestly, say, well, the real affairs the most

possible. But I'm not always to get them and the other don't always to get to the other people.

That's it's called the way. Exactly. So, when you're not to get to

get to the end up the time? Well, yeah, I don't not, I'm not

the choice of the color. You know, I'm, I'm not that expression that,

the life, not done the choice that I never heard from that,

you know, look, in France for example where the debate is something of

very everyday, the very, you know, but the people, when they

they're not in brawying at their and say, they're not, they're

not, it's not a regard on their person in a debate, it's a

debate. But it's to be to be to be a distance. But, yeah,

to be able to say, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, for the for the

for the project, you, yeah, exactly, but at a moment to

it's sure that your your personality will bring did you, a moment of a moment of

a little cowboy, and Alexi and I'm very, we're going to be a boy more plus

with the other than with the other than with the people than we're often I'll say, hey, make attention

we're not too cowboy and it's me that and how you get that? Sometimes it

sometimes it's like the little acro a bit more profound? It's never we

have a great quality, thank God I'm my God, we see, we're

grand quality, is that we're not we're not very, one over the other

we're quite, we're quite, I think. We have kind of the intelligence of the

heart. So, you know, we're not very, we're not eternally we're,

we're to see that the other is not there for to do do not, to do

We have also, I think, where is this intelligence emotive that makes that we're able to pass, we're not rancunied one over the other but we're not

not, how we call it when you're, we have an admiration one over the other but we're not, we don't not a genus

in the other in the, ah, they're don't good, they don't no. It's not

not. And to what? And to what? And to what? And, I think that the need

to Alexi have these qualities profound that I'm not, it's someone

who is very intigent and that a perception of the very, very clear-voyant. It's

someone who is capable to very very judge the person who is in face

to him. It's someone who's very well naviged that a logic

out of common and very rapid very, very very fast. I'm not

that. I'm the other things, but I'm not that. Is that that's

that's what that's that's that's the people, because it's someone that's

to decide rapidly that's much more like a lot but there's

much more a doubt on what he he's that he underp than

more. I'm I don't more than he but his lack of

doubt is not due to a man to analyze of analysis these they're

very very very well especially the people the comportment the

tractations the games the the exchange is really very

very good very good so I mean to say to here in the space attraction

we we we're we're so that you part that you

have been but we're we're because you travel here with

Alex in the company, and in the same bureau. Exactly. And I'm I'd cross, we'd say, more often

than you're like you're at all the time I'm doing that because he's booyant. He's booed of opinion,

he's going to listen to hear there, you know there's a there's a there's a there's a there's not

there's not there's not no, so there's not there's not to give his opinion at tar

or at reason. Sometimes I I'm a friend a bit to that for him like he

can be a friend of another fashion for me because it's someone

an extremely spontaneous it's what you see what you see what what you see what you

see after that he will have to maybe not even I'm maybe

I'm not I'm and I'm so so so it's Alexi this

this space of movement but I do say

that in the we we do we we're a

very a profound respect one for and we

have not we're not consensus all the time but we have a profound respect one for the other so when you

say something I'll listen I'll I'll receive I'll I'll analyze it I think I'll think

I'll think I'll have or not with but I know he doesn't me say not these things for me say

it's not it's not denue of sense and about not about not to so. So the

reason profound you'd have to identify an one a reason profound

it would say the connection out of all of doubt that Alex not me

don't know you're in security Yeah Is that you've used that's in your

life? Some but but sometimes yeah but that you're

in a good but it doesn't that all the all all

no no is is there is there is there is there I said

I said that we don't We don't make the consensus. It's not, hey, I'm not I'm not in accord. It's, it can be explosive?

Ah, yeah, it can be explosive. It can be good, but I'm on going. Hello. Alex, it's very good for a moment of a day.

It's disappeared. How you reconnected that? Well, it's the time that's a moindry the shows. But, you know, he piqued

of the choler as quite extraordinary. You can't to talk to people here, I'm not of this,

I'm not of the same type, but, He was of this type and then I reached to get to understand

that's not useful. And now, now, on the other to pogny in air and to gulet he'd say

up, he says and he's so that he's he serves enormously. And that's like a color,

sourd. Yeah, in fact, it's, well, I'm going, but it's an effect also

devastating, because, you know, sometimes it's an effect a great baby gauted, he's left and he's left,

he's going to make the argument or the problem non-resolute, you know, but it's better more than to put the edge in the table. You know, the color,

there's also, sometimes it's in the regard of the other, you say, boy, you know, it's sure that's insicurise the choler. And in the same time, it's that the

color is malveu. So, it's like if all of a coup, you were more capable to be controlled and to

control your emotions. So, I think not that that's not that's the case at least, not do do all, but

it's like a volcano that's like a momentaningly for so he's calm after, yeah, it's

not a no, but I, I've seen my father, I've seen my mother, I've seen

these aspects of, you know, but not tranquil, but of the volcanoes, yeah, some of the

tempete, yeah, when I was when I was it was afraided enormously because it

was emotionally too far for me. And I think that for the most of the people, it can have this, you know, at the air of, you know, it's not, to make, you know,

for it's not deplair, it's difficult. It's very difficult. So, there's a retray and demise. The retreat and demis. The retreat, like to see the children. You're going to retire.

Yes, you'll have to refriced. You go in the coin. You're going to talk to your earie. Yes, it's real, the children, the retrait. Yeah, the retrait. No, you'll have

have a consequence. Yeah, there's no consequence. Ah, well, the life is in charge, let's talk about to us try to me give us to give

some of a minute I'd say, I'd say, hey, respire, let's do it, it's not important, it's not, and it's not

useful, in fact. You're not you're not not, you're not not, you're not. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I can be choleric when I'm really to be able, but I'm I'm very direct, yeah, and it's for

that I've got bad. We're on the cause of Yeah, yeah, but I know

other people like that's not concerned of that, you know, it's difficult because the more you're

trying to have phoned because you're not not quite you know because you to put to

a mask we're on all you know to be too, it's on it's

but at the same that's the it's like it's like it's like, it's like, it's like,

what you think. Yeah, exactly. I was the first time, it's the first she said, she said, she said,

she said, she said, she'd say, in the case, she'd say, she'd say, she'd be really real,

like, yeah, like, yeah, like, it's, it's appare not,

you know, but you know, Melanie Menard, it's a good example, you, you know, one I've

heard an interview, and she said, she said, she said, that when you said, when you said, when you

had been out of you've got that you've that you make that you or that you

think you think you think you're in the first if you go in 20,000 pounds per year, she's

she's she's she said, she's she's out of she said, she she said, she got to she said, she

she said, she on 20,000 she'd say, she'd even not 12 I'd even not there so, so

when she when she's when you're getting the opportunity to get, okay, okay,

because you understand, it's again once, it's an choice that you the fact that you

will make other other things that's to have received to do you know that's that's not

frustrated, and that you can gain to be convenably and that's a laise with what you and it's

and it resum to do to do it to do you to do you do it. You, you

have elargy your sense of competence and now you pige a little there

then, and also even if you do you choose not, you choose you can maybe

you choose you do you do it this Cote that. Yeah, yeah.

You have this sensibility that also. Yeah, yeah, it's sure. And I

like that and I love the and I'm and I'm tap the air like I'm tap the air

for other reasons that I know by car also, you see, it's the mitty.

And is you think that for an actor or an actress, it's more easy

to play with someone like someone who who knows the missier, who is also

an actress? That, but, you know, when you when you when you

observe, when you do you, when you're like a connection more great,

is your your comments, are the comments, are more precise? Oh, I see not, you know,

when I do you, when I do you when you do you, when you do you, when I'm,

well, I, I, I, I, I think that I'm I think that's I'm quite

I'm something at the ear and I want, I want, I want to see it, I want to

But I like to work the game. Like I said I said, I've really found my little code,

I've tried my little formule, and I, you know that. So you're able to transmit. I hope.

I hope. That's good. Nive rose, Sophie, the level Eros and company. So,

you give four cards. Now, it's like to get to get to my Joker, four four.

No, I'm sure you're super content. Two, three, four. Go.

Attatt, you've done it Oh, three. I'm sure. I can't. Okay, we go. Okay, we go.

Okay, on the place accord you to to your life intimate? Is you at least with the nudity? What role does you do the

intimacyity emotional in your relationship with your and is it is easy for you to express your desire

to say, you're doing one single? One sole? Yeah. You're not sipey. Is you

at least with the nudity? Envoy don't. Envoy don't? Joker. You want to respond? I'm not,

No, I'm not al-a-laise with the nudity but I don't know very much well, I think it's

not, in what sense you talk about the nudity every year? By the you're not at you're at

all-aise with the nudity? Well, I've got nothing in the same time what is

fatigant with the nudity when you when you do, in the I'm

I'm talking, because in the life you're no, I'm not no, I'm not

no problem with the nudity but when you you play, is that after the moment

when you do you feel at poil, you per you're in everybody who will be

me say the contrary, I'm not, you per totally to hear your audience, your

spectator, oh, yeah, your client, you per to the you're you're just

you're to get to get and the moment of the moment of you, you're not

because you look the person that you know, because you don't be put

there, it's, it's, if we if we if we if we if it's

if we the time, it would be not the case. But as we've constructed an aura

around of that, a mystery, all a voyeurism, a, a, you know,

a, a, you know, an history, um, well, fortunately, so,

you're not, so, so, so, so, that's, it's always been a

bit my, my, my, my, my, my, did you, did you,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Is that, is that you, is is that you, is it really that serve your role? Is it something that's something that's because it's, it's often, it's often,

it's often, it's a money of exchange, in fact, in the sense who, for certain productors at a certain epoch or certain realisator,

it was, wow, we'll want to do you know, we'll talk, and it's, and it's all nothing to have with what you

have to put to a role or an interpretation or, I'd say, Joie new for joe for joe but it's

motivated by what? What's what it's going to do? What's that what it's that's important

to happen to get to be new. But at a part of the minute you have to be concerned

that the people will be to scutte it's not great, it's really not great

but it's more important that it's more important that it's something for something valuable

by something of something of Is that would be in a can nudist

you? Oh, I think not. Because one I'm going to I've used this reflection that, I mean, I'd know, I'm

going to know, I think that I'm at Martha's Vineyard or, in any case, and then it and I'm

put a long, long march and I'm arrived on a plage of a nudism, but I'm not too

to get on the beginning to there was, because we're in September, it's really the final

of the end of the end of the end, and I marched on the place,

and when I crossed my first person I thought it's a little group that had

decided to be able to know, and at a moment of a minute, I've had made a

small, what's I'm there, and then you make, you make, you know,

you know, you know, you know, and I know, and I'm on, and then, then I'm

saying, ah, you know, in your may you know, you know, you have some , you know,

you have some called in the face, and you have the sand and you the sand and it's

Bizzone. Ah! It's disagreeable. So it's it's been so and you brule? You risk

to brule more more. So, no, it's been that my consta, it's not so agreeable.

Maybe if you're on the board of a piscine and you just plush and you go to be

and you understand, maybe that you're super well, but the notion

in the in the pier, in the sand, in the In the state, and in plus, you know, Martha's Vineyard,

you're like very savage, you know, with the little bebitt who've been to mord of a fist, oh! But in your life, it's not

an issue. You're well with your car. Well, you know, the car that I, that you want to I'm going to I'm saying that,

Sophie. At a moment of a, you know, you know, we've got to have to come, at term, what's you

want to be that's a very very good response. because there's a lot of women who would say that

you know, and it's plenty of things that are in their heads when they're when they were when they're

there's a oh no but it's sure that but in in the same you're like yeah

it's like it's like it's the acceptation it's the it's the it's the renouncement

at each but at but at a moment of the you say I'm there I'm sent in the

I think, for the instant, and what you want to do I do? What's what you want to do? There's nothing to do. You can't do anything. And your car does it serve well. My car me serre well, he's not suffering, he is supple. I mean, good don't. Is that you're in train?

I have some moments where I'm entrain. Yes, I have the moment where I'm entrained. I have a moment of the day, because I read a lot, because I read I think, because there's a moment where I need to I'm sorry to

I'm sorry I'm going to go to get to get to get to work, walk, leave the point, never to work,

do you know, to do something, but I'm because you're particularly in form? Ah, I know, but

I'm really, it's really, it's, there's a time that I'm because it's, it's a business,

yeah. Last question, Sophie, your Joker, is still on the table, I think I was that's

that question that's that you will get to It's the question opto-rezo. When you regard in the retrovisor of your life,

of what are you the most of you answer? I'm going to tell you to trypond. It's my infant, my son, it's probably yes.

Is that you've always wanted to be mom? No. Never. I don't. I don't

not because I wanted to be mom, it's because I'm not because I would say that I would say that I could not have to have an

father. So I'm certain that it would be not quite I'm going to make a cross there

so that's when it's been a great great surprise, a shock and in the same

time, okay well with what we did, there's there's there's I've

composed a bit with all that but it has very very well passed but it

has been in the time I'm not not prepared to in the sense

or, well, the co-prinato, I'm really necessary, I'm not there. You know, I'd say, I'm not in the mood, you know, I did do you, I do this, and so, that, my bedden all air,

and all that, I was like, okay, you've got to gain his life, what's we do, what we can do? I also, it's been a grand,

it's been a grand vector in my life, it's been a grand cut-to-de-door, because when you're of the of the sudden you have a

other responsibility that's more just you know so you have you can you can't you can't you can't

you can't you can't you can't you can't you know with you see more you know so that

it's not a farce you know I can't I can't have been the same life than

I'm I think we we're we're a bit our capacity of merveillance but not of

insuciance that's like so I'm so you I'm said at

some reprise, but a day I'd have listened to the TV, I think that was with Christian Charette. Okay.

My wife, I lette, my first, she had not a man, it had been all the time, she said,

you know, when your first thing, the first thing you said, you said, you said, you know,

the first, you said, you know, it's gay, huh? I was signy, jellette, Angela,

and I'm, oh, my dude, I'd have done the death, I've even not thought that they could

think she could be Yeah, but... But, I mean, it's that, when I said, a grand shock, it's been so, it's been, in the same time, to see,

to see, it's a little bit of because, you know, I mean, he's not like a little, a little poolish or a little, he's on his

four-patt, and, you know, I'll say, you know, it's, you know, that, you know, that's, my God,

but I've given to a man, a day, this person, that, this infant, that, will grow,

will be given an adult, he will be more, the culpability, we can't And then, finally, you've had your son

and you said it's been your great fearty. Is that, is that you have sent it like that like a great

fearty? Well, my mom had said, you will be, because I said, yeah,

I see, I don't know I'm at you, because I had not a fiber maternale very developed,

you, I was an accident, I didn't know, it was something that I had been

something that had said that you your car, you'd not, to have a child?

So when I'm saying, I'm saying, when you go to be you go to see, it's a

whole other history, and it's really. The minute when we put this man,

and that, and that it's it's it's suddenly, it, it's a

other dimension, there. Person, can rivalize with you at this

moment there, there's not a company to the world, there's not a

there's there there there anything can rivalize with that. And your life

has changed at this moment Yeah, your life changed to do you bet it again But it's like the same When I'm gonna

I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying I'm gonna say Is that I'm gonna After the birth It's finished It's finished

It's never ever Revenue No, because It's like It's like It's a It's a state Yeah

You're just You're responsible Exactly I've got to I'm sorry And my My mother Meer said

Sometimes you In my your life, you don't always what you do, you do it's what you

do, because you're what you're at the time you're to get to find it to make

sometimes to rounder the coins that I think I would be better with my

wife. Your is that does that was often? Yeah, yeah, I've got

to every day, I'm not every day, I'm probably not every

day, but I'm probably all the relationship that of a grand proximity?

I'd say more now than before. Yes, because there a period

where I'm more view, because I'm too occupied to be to be able to me

and I'm a little my son and I'm who have been the relays to the kind of

to the, to the, to the mother has got of 44 years. Incredable

that Denise 1914 14 yeah so, so there,

you know, there, you know, there's a fragility that's in these chifference

in the grand age and then in fair fee it's a bit it's a bit ridicule so it

you know it's it's to learn to compose to compose with this grand age

is when when we when we when you think of a part of you think how we

how we're how we have to this zone I don't how it but you in plus

or I would like I would I would like to I'd like to my mother we'd constantly and say

all the time the girls, I'm got 14 age you like you like you

like you rubel it rulelele in the paper it's it's 84

on so don't don't or don't to it's like

it's like it's we're we're we're sometimes to pass by the

few chimes to say well to say or buy this, or I mean, she, and she,

and she, and she, she, she's I'm in 44 years. And for

her, it's like if all it's like, in this, in the thing, she has

reason, she has nothing to have anything to say, what's that's a bar,

it's a 24 year, and you're still in life, and you're still, and you're

also a fragility that's installed, and you have on to be on

a note, and it's you know, we've got not, you know, and I'm doing the same

rhythm than before, and I'm doing, you know, I'm doing to do renouncement to have,

I'm more rapid than and it's so, it's all that. Is that a great to you,

to the company, at that, at that the time of his life, to be present?

Yes, a, well, a, I know if I'm it's a person,

but it's a devour, I'd say, it's a Devoer with it's a Devoer of Dignity

it's not a it's a Devoor of dignity to the that she is the

most that they are that my Sarah and me we want

really that she be being that she be being that

we understand I'm very this expression that Devo

Devoor DeV Dignite Yeah to give all the

dignity on which she has a right, a right fundamental, that we can't forget very often when the people become aged. What's what we can do you want to say, Sophie?

Oh, just the safety, it's going to be in a mass I'll try to me arrange with the rest. Not the choice. Thank you, Sophie Lorenz. Thank you, Mar-Claude. Thank you, to this magnificent

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