Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #134 - Ingrid Falaise | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Ingrid donne de l’espoir à plusieurs en démontrant qu’il y a une vie après la violence. Elle est partie de loin, même très loin. Le chemin n’est pas toujours une ligne droite parce que l’on n’efface jamais complètement les traces d’un passé trouble, mais elle est allée chercher du support et elle est bien accompagnée.Rencontre avec une femme qui a beaucoup à dire sur la vie. Elle s’ouvre sur sa relation avec son amoureux, sur la maternité, sur l’amitié et elle nous partage ce qu’elle a vécu récemment en Afrique, un endroit où elle ne pensait jamais retourner.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:10:12 Cartes vertes00:39:39 Cartes jaunes01:05:18 Cartes rouges01:22:45 Cartes Éros01:29:05 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 15% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU15.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.Ricardo vous offre 15% de rabais sur les abonnements à son magazine pour vous permettre de vous inspirer au quotidien avec une foule de recettes et de conseils. Il suffit de se rendre sur le site⁠⁠ ricardocuisine.com/abonnements⁠⁠ et d’entrer le code promo MARIECLAUDE15.

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of the violence conjugal that she had Vecue. And it's like it

has been seen it has seen differently at from the day. And in

partaging her story, she had decided to, in fact it's

been a quay for her, I think, to be to be the

women, that are victim of violence conjugal. She on

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is become that. And, well, surely that she will be in a course of

your own that. So I'm ingrid Falaise. So, place to Ingrid.

You know, I was, I'd be in love. After the monster, I'd not in

love, I'm that the guys are in love with me, and I

was my friends, but I would say vulnerability, to be in love and I

had power to that. So, I would who me more than I

like that, I was secure, I was more in amitia than in love. You'd have a bit of the control.

Yes, exactly. And I was, you know, I was, I'm, I'd be dependent of this love that that was dangerous

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point CA. We're it, we know for long time, it's an actress, but it's

also an animatrice, an actress, and there I don't know I'm sorry because it I'm sure she's a

thing that's a few I think that by her story has really a link very very

precious with I'd say the entire of the people, she has part of the story, it's

a family that has a story to her, an story not easy for aid other

women and it's extremely generous, I'm like the impression that she has created a

community around her. So, I'm very, very Fierre this morning to see this morning. Hello, Ingrid Faleise.

It's a bit good, good. Hello, but first I'm to ask you go to ask you go.

Well, it will be good. It's, yeah, it's going very, it's going

in the deser. I've seen some of my time on Instagram incredible. I'm

going to do you, you're going to do you, you're going to do you the rally. Yeah.

I'm there as ambassadorist for far rionn the event before, so I'm

not made physically I'm not the time, you know, to be the preparation, and it's not

just that, it's a different sportive, it's an adventure. The female,

the age, 25 years, you know, your doyeen, 65 you know, you're part

with your side by side, with your co-pilote and you're a co-pilote, and you fly

in the deser, you have to make a book, and you arrive at the point

the more precisely precisely possible, in fact, it's a, it's a precision, and that you face your book, and you're

revien, with the more of the minimum of course possible, in fact, so, so it's at 55 degrees

in plain desert, you doors in the tonde of plastic at earth with a surrey and a

scurabee who just, so, so it's, so it's very, very, very demandant, very engaging,

you, your car, repete, it's you, who is in the air, cuched at time,

and he changes the change the strap. So it's a grand adventure. So I think so, I'm, so I'm there for accompany the

women, donate a conference the night, make rayonet the event, but I've I've seen my own story at

through all that. It's a rock'n'roll. It's not easy. Is it the desert that that's a, that's a space of, you know,

the grandeur of the desert where there's not the limit? Or is, is that it's that that makes that it makes that

it's a to us? Well, there's to be face-to-so, be all the same, I'm going to without my family, without my chum, without my son, and it was the first

time that I'm going to get my father, and we're fusionnel, we're tricote, serried, I'm so, I'm so,

to not be with him, it's been a challenge, but I had, the sign for me was too great, you, to return in

the desert, where I've been very much of my 18 time, to return to turn it at 44 14 years. I'm

entourned. The place was significant for you. It's a rappel. Yeah, and it's an

place where I wanted to return there. Retourne in a place you've been in a time you

don't know that you don't know the necessity and I'm always to never return there.

But when they were to be ambassadris, to the porte, to have reion an event

that is 100 feminine, the force of the community, to them accompany, and they

they're going to be their power on their life. They've got lost their cancer,

they've been their stories, I mean, they've got I'm going to there, entoured

of her, and I'm going to live the flashback, to live the, you know, the odors,

the people, the people, the mansions that are barcaded, descend during two

years of time, in the office, I had my capuchon on the head,

and I I looked at the pageas the fielded in the boss and I wanted not to talk to

I'm in an espouse to, it's a brulele in it's, what I'm what I was

doing that I'd say, I'd re-voyed these images and I had want to me to make

like, hey, you you know, you're, you know, you're there, you know,

I'm, I know, I know, I know, so, so, so, so,

that I thought that I existed no. So it was, it was, the desert, it's arid, it's like

the sun, the poverty, the, yeah, the souvenirs of what I have been that's been

going to be soffed of our and to each one of we, we've had pleurred,

plurred, plurry, chackone of the chackun of there, there's a aura very,

very, very particular. Sarah, it's very, Is that you think that's a reparator

what you've lived? For the real I'm coming a two weeks. And it's like if the

desert had now a other connotation, a other signification. Now the desert,

I've pleaded all the all the and the desert, it's the force

of the women, it's the stories that we're talking it's the story,

I'm made for the life there there, it's their marathon of two

years where they're done in the desert, and I'm going to they rejoin, and we've had but you know, we've

pleaded to those atuels. We've seen these atuels like, it's that exist not these places, we've

been very festive, so it's like the desert, it's that now. It's not the little girl, it's

the farm of 44 years, but it's the way, the chemines where finally I don't know

if we're sequestered, but in to be sequestered there, you're that you return free? Yeah.

And so it's in great part of you're in great to you, this chamein that's you that's you're

doing it. We, and we're seeing that all the person who can't be there's no

nothing that there's not there's not there's not there's not there's I'm able to turner

and I'm able to return, it's like if I've replaced that, you this sequestration

that by a liberty to be to return to to reprimand my power. So you're

to have a blockage. Yeah, totally. It's very spiritual, you know. Yeah. But in

same time, very concrete also. It's the life that made. It's not me that's I'm going to

go back to revive these traumas or, you to get something, it's the that's

you've done. You know, when you to say, uh, at this engagement that,

is that, is that you do you ask, how you're asked, how I'm, how I'm

asked how I'd make face if the flashback remounted or if I had a

pen or if I had just just want to go back to go back without my family, so I'm

my family. So, I called my chum every time and I'm playing with him,

it was my security, you know, it's my chateau and at six, seven years,

well, there's, you see, it's other thing, it's another thing, it's an

adventure, it's the pleasure, I'm part with, with a chauffeur, we're to go in the dunes.

We'd in the dunes. It was incredible. We had chanted, we recited a prayer in Arab,

that I'm rapped again. It's super powerful. It's incredible. It's incredible. The community. Yeah,

that's what you've lived, the support where all the world has these great vulnerability. Absolutely.

And it has parted, it's like them, it's like, they're like, they're, we've been

more vulnerable in partage. Absolutely. And it's a therapy, you know, I've always said that the women between them, when we're jaz it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, so we're our soupies, to fiege, it's there, we're 24, 24 and so 24, so it's, their history, their

life, and we know never, person, you know, when we can't someone, you know, that's not, you know, what she's been bouncing, you,

you know, it's that, it's the exchange, the effect of group, it's hyper, super-puit, and I see that that each fan that has taken,

to Montreal, or in France, You know, there are the French, there are some of the Belge, the Swiss, the Quebecoise, they're going to change with a force.

It's that that that's a lot of, it's a lot of, they know who's going to do it. Well, it's a good port-a-garten.

You're really a good port-a- and all my projects are profoundly autoticic and it gives the gout of me that's magnificent

to say I read to that. There, your job, Mabel, your game, you're revenued of our imprimer

with a few carance, The game, I would have reconstructed. Okay. It's a mode of the buff reconstructed. But, yeah. So, it's

all the good questions. Perfect. The game is intact. Okay, I hope. It's the presentation. But, look, he's just deconstrued, but it is just for you.

So, so, I'm just for you know, the cards red, which are the questions of order general. The card

Jones, that are of order more specific, the cards red are, I think, I think, it's these

cards of reflections, the reflections that you've had used in your but are very personal also.

The question Spaceman is the question that comes with the level Patreon. We have the

level eras and company you'll have quite that's sensual and sexual. We'll have on that.

We'll have done that question. I think that makes a little conclusion to this

encounter that and your Joker, if you see that's got too long you've been too

question, you start And he is used Joker, Jain, don't know if you use it. It's just a

one way or I'm using a little bit one of you say it's a second time but it's never arriving

so maybe it's probably to be able to be open on the second time so you can be able to

you can I'm so I'm sorry I'm seeing one every year yeah I'm so

I'm sure I'm sorry I'm just I'm too, I'm too I'm paying that so you

touch too I'm to do you it's what you do you see what you do you do you do you do you

on down the five. Is it's for your your own Yeah, I'm I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure to be sure in life,

and it's the good direction, yeah, absolutely I'll see Sylvian during 20 years, I'm going to see there's a number

there, there's no, there's no, there's no, so I'm the impression that she'll be the last time that I'm going to

have seen my family, I'm going to my fee, She's a really sorcerer. I've always pretty said my book that

had started before even that I'm before I'm in Virginia. I have no a contract that's all right.

And we had all the contract I've played in Virginia for a while, yeah, but I didn't, no,

you'll have to have a half contract, and after that it's finished. It's going to be replaced this affair

that. We've seen a year that it's what, in 30 years that we're that we're

prepped plenty, plenty of I mean, it's a bit. I'm anxious, also, in life, so I like, I like that, I'm sure, and it's a lot of, you know, a METI, I'm a METI, I'm a need to stability, and I'm not... Yeah, it's a whole METI, so, it's a good METI, yeah,

but, like, many, but, like, many, and the people, you know, sometimes, you know, the people who are at your place, the personalities public that come, there are many people who are talking about to be anxiety, and I'm like, and I'm like an impression also, that you have a part of the METY, who continues to to nourir

this anxiety that, you know, to never know, and when you can't you can't

play a lot because you know, because you know, it's when the next time you're a contract.

No, I did 100,000 per year in Virginia, and after that I was going to play on a year and

I, and I can't, you can't, you can, you can, because if you get 100,000 per year, and then,

you, you know, you, you know, you'd you're, you know, you go, met, let's, let's,

let's what I , at 25 year, salary, and flop their cash, the voyage, the charles, the si, the s, and the gross restos, and, I mean, I set out of, and my first condo, b, you know, I invested,

and then, I've been re-pothequeed for an issue, so. So, at 25 years, I've been, I've placed, des sous, for having... But it's just, because, if you you roll with 100,000, let'sone, and the year-s-uven, you've

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My more great... Well, you know, there's plenty of responses that are coming automatically. But, go with what you've got to want to respond. But my more great fear, is to be abandoned. That's one of my more great fear. And, you know, what I mean is, I mean, I'm afraid to have a child,

I had scared, I had afraid to me feel prisonier, I had afraid to, you know, not to be able and to be pogned with a, someone who'd

be grandis at the interior of me, and suffocated and have emil in my world, it's been my more great liberty. And it's there

that I was found out that I'm never, totally. And I'm talking a little more,

I'm not to be to be all I need to be entoured I have my chateau fort,

to have my people of my people of and be able to see, I'm sure you know, and I'm this great

fear of abandon that, and then after you have always, but is it has always been there

your your story? I think that's some repercussions of my story. With your

world, with the world? Well, in fact, it's that, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm a young female like, and I had not

a trauma. Yeah, Yes, I have some, you know, we have some of the mechanisms of defense. But you thought, it's not,

the power of the abandon. No, no, no. No, no. I mean, no. I'm the power of the humiliation, that is

still very present, the fear of the abandon. It's all the sequels. Yes, I think that's important that you say, because

without having a traumatism as far that you've been a lot, there are many people who live

there's there may have left the repercussions, and often what you know me, it's not

identii also clearly. It's like if we're not not associing to trauma because there, what's that you find, the humiliation, so that's something that's sensible at your, absolutely, but that's, it's, it's, it's, it's

because when we do the violence congeal, we live enormously of humiliation. It's, it's, it's, it's part of the violence conjugal for us bris. So, so, that's a, it's a, it's a bloodsure that, you know, my, my blessings I've applied to live with, and to be in front, soin. Now, I've seen

I'm arriving, I'm like, oh, okay, that's the blessure of the humiliation. So, you know, I'm taking soin, I know, I know, and I'll let's not, and I'll let's not, you know, here, to be here with you, well, it's in danger. At being public, it's a problem

publicly, it's, it makes in danger. And it's the dangers that I've learned, to, you know, I'm in hyper-vigilance also, I calculate the dangers possible, but I let's put me freen and me guard the other board of the port, you know, I mean, I've had been

because you'd have been because of that if you'd let's enter. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Or, you know, I'm not going,

I'm afraid to go to get a party to know-to-so I'm not capable, the party of hello, I'd go ahead,

because I'm not, you know, I'm a, to get a time to go, I'd never at a gala all, a first,

at a first, what could be able to what's, what's, I see, for real, it's a,

it's a, it's a therapy finally to come to see Mark Lott Barrett. But

it's like I'm like I'm there's like I'm going to have seen to have someone

I'm going to be in security I think it's part of the because you you're

you're alone you've been alone too you're sent alone at the

other end up even even here but you've you've you've

had this detress of of great solitude yeah absolutely

so it's also the the side solitary, it's the abandon, but, you know, like if you go solo at the party of Noelle, to say, you're not abandoned, but you're alone. But I'm alone.

So, you know, it's, and it's, and it's, and it's also part to know my valor, it's part of, I have the right to be there, I'm, you know, I'm uncomfortable, in fact, it's a sentiment of an imposterer? Totally, totally, yeah, and so, I'm always

used, it. It's a failure that a psychologist, me don't a, a, a, faux diploma, that I'm on my room to be capable to be comedian because I've not made

the school national of theater. I'm autodidact I've tried but that's an other history, but

it's a fall you know I've been to say, you have the sentiment of imposter me has seen my life,

it's a time, it's a time, it's on your ex, at your place, for example, professionallyly

in this sphere there? Well, you see, there, with Fee-Mere, my book that came

to get to get, it's like if the monster, the most of the suite, my plume has not been, it's not my plume that's my plume that's, the books, it's

these ultra-besselerer are sold in centen of millions of exemplar in France, in Switzerland, in Poland, in Belgium, there's been the series, there's been the documentary, but it's

like all this it's also at cause of the history, you know, with Faye-Mare, the journalists, they're made the front,

the plume, the quality of the crature, the intelligence the text, it's like if there we we're

also the artist in indefendable we've recognized the artist because it's a role of composition because it's also with

Benoubriar so it's like there there, the notoriety or I'm to take to more my place

and I've made my proof. But you you're more legitimate? Yes. Because we

have to do the sense? Well, it's the sense that you do. I'm not to judge the sense

of what you You know, I'm saying, but I'm, I'm saying, but what I'm saying, but female, I'm, I, I'm talking, I'm talking about you, I'm going to, I'm talking, I'm, I'm at least, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to ask you, but I'm going to pass through time that for recuperate, and then, and your wife, because I'm going to eat alone, and I was alone, and I was alone, and the voice of Mary, who is the personage principal, who is this female-maire, who

tombe-in-saint at 14-year, which is, finally, in the case, we can't, but it's just that she'll be accompanied, but I had

an impression that she was about me shush-tet his story to each one to my repas, and that,

it's to say where you say, where you say, okay, it's going to say, we anticipate each moment,

and the quality of your So my crature, it's this finesse that to us to make in an other tableau at each time. You know,

the love that's something of, there's a there's plenty of couche, but it's so much it's so much

we're getting there, it's like a glissade to the back, but in douser, but in the same time

we know that there's something of a fatality that will arrive and tranquillement it

remount, but the dousor of your and the durity of the purpose. It's what

really, it's extraordinary. The way that's made that, because we're attached to this person that, and we

understand the time. Because it's an epoch my family, you know, there of these there, you know,

in chakune in our family, there are, there's a, it's a culpability that they

abitra all their life, to have left someone while that it was involuntary. But,

but it Remplied, of culpability, culpability to be on the scene, culpability to have abandoned

an infant, culpability to be the hound of the family, culpability, everything, all the

people, it's repos to the young female, it's impuventable. We talk of trauma, the trauma

that they've been in the coven, the flagellation of the, the, the, the violence

psychological, they've been their personality, their identity, they they're reduced at nothing, in fact. And after that,

we're left enfante in the Duller, we don't accompany not, we don't expunge not your front, you know, when you're

when you're one of the most gross Duller, it's one of the most Duller to world.

And there's person who t'ad, and you've 14, you've 11, you, you're 16 years,

you've not, you, you've not the capacity, the tools for nothing to have done to bring,

and even at 44 in your cuss, I mean, it's tough in Maudy, you have to have been to get, and even the obstetian,

he's going to have to find out, and you're in home, you know, you're not a baby that's when he was in the coven,

there, there's, their baby, was the sole person with who he was, it's like, okay, we're two

now, Mary, it's so that she's the only person who is the only person who is with me, who can't,

we're all right, we're all we're all right, and you get to the and it's terminated, we don't talk about

all the trauma that decouled the postpartum the violence omnipresent that's still and that's terrible never, never

and in the book also what is important is that I think that each parent those who who have lost a

a child also can't because you can't forget your life and that it's

that's married all the long of the life who, who who you who you can be

burs in some who who is who is who you to protect who you

have after has marched. Oh, you're 16-in-matter, who you've got met with, what's you know, I mean? You know,

your son, you know, you're doing it's your own, you know, it's sure that you're sure that you think it's a

force also of the book, is that the child who never, it's been like for all the parents.

And you're you know, you're like, you know, she's, she, she, she's, she, she's,

she, she, she's, and this person, in the fact, and, is inspired of the

mother, of your Amourous? Yeah, well, my belle mare, you know, it's been 12 years that

I've done with my chum, it's my badmere, the last year, the old of these young 70 years,

70 years that's a cancer that a caparie is not dead because she's not a 30-year, it's not

an epoch very, very long-term, it's, she, she, she, she, she'd have been still,

she, she's his own history to her. If I'm not if I'm not true, is Is that the date, because there's, there in the daughter of marriage

is in 61? Yes, to my point, I've made some choice also literary. I'm so, she's in 68.

Well, I'm I'm in 69. Well, you're trying to count? In 68, it's there where she had

14 years and she had 14 years, so that's that we're not not quite at what it's recent, you know,

I'll say it's super important, to understand that the right at the divorcement was not a key in

these years and he had been decriminalized in 68, in 69 he had been decriminalized and that

would say it's not it's not an act criminal, but you have not the right but I'm

because my my mother had that before I'm back back so 69 I'm in January 69

so that's fortunately she's fortunately she went in an orphanina she had I think

in the end the in the west of Montreal berce of children. But, who

they berse these children? It's so they're going to be there's a day, well,

you know, now you know, you know, you know, and we know, and we know, and it's important,

at the point, the point of the first moment, it's important. So, all these people,

that, that are tisue of these trauma, that, it's the society

of today, I've said, they're, they're 40 years, 45 years, 50 years. And I

imagine that so it's plenty of stories. Plain, Plain, plenty of history. And at

the time, all the stories that I see, we're also our history. You know, this

so we, we have the fratry of my chum, and I, you know, I'm,

I'm, you know, but at the house, we see, we see, we're

seeing, we're trying, that's, in fact, his father, it's,

because the law has changed, and, and, uh, and, uh,

and, they, they, when you say that, it's this part of the story,

in the phone, that's that's rejoined to say that's absolutely.

Absolutely. And, so, for us it's particular, my chum, he has learned that

there's a fratry, you know, it's a shock, it's a discovery, we're going

over the album photo this night, because we, what's what's we've made

in the book, it's liberer inspired, but in the real life, Fanfan we've

announced in 2017. because her son she's been there's the valve

that's opened, the children have had the right to know their origin, if the parent

biologic was in 2014, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, the parent that's, you can have right at your origins, it's a right,

it's a question, she, she, she, she, she, because she, after that,

you know, imagine, the trauma to us, the trauma, for her, to do, to have

re-uvering these secrets that she had kept in foe for 50 years, it's enormous

and to get to see these links for us for us have not been to soon.

For us it has took a time before we can't get a fratry

so. So it's all recent it's just a year that we

have made this first that and the care is over but

there we have hard to share our our Vecue Partage

how Cedric has granded, how his brother has granded, how you know, partage,

to understand what the other court, how it's all the other this is in this moment. It's enormous,

it's enormous. It's something your life, yeah. There's a lot of cuch,

you know, a lot of to get to be, a lot of adaptability in all this absolutely

and I do it because of one, it's a promise that Fanfan and me we, we've got, it's very important, that I aid to

break the silence. The silence, she has not been the brised of his vivant, well, we'll break at the travel, and I think that's important. What do you think to have an

accueue also important with this book? I've never done, but I'd and the phrase that I'd say that that could not

come between two chairs, I want that this story reason oh and far. It's too important, and it's a touch

too of family and it's not true that's not true that's it's a

thing that's what you're that's that's you know, you know, you know, you will read

in second a quarter you know, you'll learn a little of the history, and you know,

the war world, and so, and what's what's what's going to get to and you

know, you know, it's not personalised and it's not humanized and it through my

story, it's humanized so the people that's people who listen that's When you've seen, when you've read Feil-Mare, you're attached to Mary.

Oh, but totally. I'm personified. So, she's a part of our history. So it's a book historic, but it's run in the heart, and we can understand. And she, you know, you're talking to all the time. All right. You know, you're not in these mists in context.

No. All right. In fact, it's really a live. Bravo, to have written that, because of this finesse. So I understand that, like, I understand that, the reconnaissance of your writing, the reconnaissance of to be able to

talk to a story also, that it comes calmed your sentiment of imposterate. Hey, you

bonn, you remember, that's, it's a yeah, it's, it's, yeah, totally. Well,

totally, because, you know, when you do, I mean, I've always written, I've done, I've seen,

that I've seen that I've written, that's often passed by the writing, and it's often to be

through my world, but for me, it's super important, to be reconno as documentarist

with my documentary it's important because it's important because it is a part of all of all of my

work, it's very the question that I choose when I look in the mirror, I see.

Ah, when I look in the mirror, I see, a woman, you know, I'm using

these words dign, right, fair, with a mechance baggage, but I'm Fierre of what I'm

doing. And it's been long before I'm able to it's been long before I'm going to know my

proper name my name. You know, it's rare that we're saying Mark Claude Barrette or

that's, you know, then to be able to, and that's an exercise that's a fact,

I'm looking in the mirror and I know, and I'm with Fierte and I'm

with Fierte, and I'm so, I'm all my conferences, I'm, commentiress, commentiress, mom,

Belle Mama, woman, in life, you know, it's all that's all that I'm in and it's been

long before that I'm honore at cause of all my blessures of the past when I'm

when I'm flagellasel not of what I'm but I'm always over my own and I'm

and I'm to bring to take to care to who I'm and it's happened that in your

way has been a event has been a is a suite of an event that fact that you

be you're able now to be like that to be in it's these years therapy, it's these

years of work with it's a time, it's years to understand to comprehend who I'm

and that there's that I've that I've been of my fault that's it's been

long before to be to be to me pardoning but you in the

same the monster that has been part of your life it's

also one of their force to let's to let's this baggage of culpability

if you're you're after you're what you're you know it's what we know that there's the

there's different but the trams of the font she's like it's like debolone and it's an encrache that you make

down the back also yeah the violence psychological it's I think those

people who have used the violence psychological that's they're made maltrait

by their parents inle these mo that's it's so long it's

It's a lot of it's because you They're appropriated It's so, they're in the It's a matter And at a moment It's you It's a transfer

Yeah, it's I'm not I'm glad, I'm I'm gross I'm here So it's just It's just It's like you

You're flagell of words Because that's what you're It's so you It's so you know You know, we're We're talking to Cindrome of Imposte

There, when When we're When I'm When I'm You know, I'm Because it's often They're sometimes They're always

She she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, She said, I have the sentiment of imposter to talk about you know, you understand, it's you know, it's you're not, you know,

I'm not, you know, I'm, you know, I'm sorry to anticipate what the people say, what's the people it's not important. Because, admit it, for 10 people who are

saying that, you'll be maybe save the life of a woman. Absolutely. You understand? So, so that's for that I continue. But it's rare

that I'm going to say, I'm sensibilize the people in violence that's... I see I'm going to see, so I'm going to

go to go to show. No, but you know, the comments there, oh, it's terrible.

Here, in this zone, open your on your on the platform, I'm going to

touch some because the comments are exceptional. I think the fact of the time to be

the time to be able to be that's not a valet and we could be there's not

there's not time of interpretation of what you do you you say, because you make in context. And it's

your story. Absolutely. And it's, I'm, the idea of the story of the other, it's to be

to be able to the same. There are a lot of people who are not therapy, you know, and I'm

there's a great, but I'm really, but it's really, or this person that I'm not sure,

I thought, I thought, I'd know, I'm finally, I'm having to get to to get to

to be, to be, exactly. But I'm that we're doing that. We do that. We do that. We're in all the career over, and in

all that's vulnerability, and authenticity and the people they're resound. Exactly. But it's sure that with the social,

the comments, it's able to, you know, to let's pass? Oh, yeah. I'm, I'm, okay, it's really, because...

You're bonn. You're born. But, no, but Carl Trembly of the Cowboy fringal, there, there's many, really,

in the beginning, it was in interview, you know, it had a line, and it said, it said, when we're to have started

to do you, the same, the sal were not because they said, we'll say, hey, we're parted we're doing,

we know, the people, we know, but we're always chanted for the ban that had had never

chanted for the bans, and say, look, the night, we're going to be molo, it's plain

at 50% so, so we, we, we, we, we, we say, we, we're always done, like

it's been, because the people who are sitting, they're not, they're not paid for, they're,

they're not, they're, but I think that's the same when we talk we're talking our history for the

real history we're not not in thinking what the other will say it's always always be authentic after that

after that we'll never never unanimity and that and that's not just when it's a

personality public it's someone that's he's going to say well yeah because you

can't because you can't be because you can't you can't and it's that's

important and those who are that you're that you can't at a moment

of it's It has been part of the life. So, I'm for the ban-plains, for those

who are the people, and you see, you know, this is the image of the character trembled, but it's really

still rested in my life, in all the I'm doing, I'm talking to say, I'm not

to convince the people who are at their rue, hey, I've been, I'm going to change my

repartour, but I will you play, because that's that the danger, it's to say, well,

and then, and those who are who are just, me, well, I don't know It's what

these songs I'm not I'm not totally I'm trying to I'm doing I'm talking about I'm talking about

I'm talking about yeah, so it's always it's always but it's always but it's it's quite I think it's

fascinating that a person can't make a or without I think I don't know I'm not that

you know I'm a person that's a person who is very very very veiled in life and I'm

sometimes sometimes sometimes it's like how she's like how she's how she has been

the time sometimes you know to my point, I think you have to be able to be able to

be able to it's a lot of it's a lot of, it's a lot of, but it's a matter that's not all the time

present, and I think that in the life our empathy sometimes will fluctuate all depending of how we

go to sometimes. When we're a too plain, we're much more empathic

because we're going to say, well, yeah, it's a way, yeah,

the comparison but that, it's also at us to be to accuse of that, to be

take of that. Telling. So, you know, you've got liberated a lot of

way, you're totally liberated of their history of their history, to be able to be able to say,

I'll be it's a little absolutely, absolutely. And it's for that I've continued also, it's for that I've done

the school, and the last week, I'm in the same year, I'm in the community again,

and I'm in the community again, and it's been very appreciate, and we're book again, and so,

Yes, it gives hope because I'm saying at each time I'm doing a conference I'm probably going to save a person and I'm not going to be

and that's the but in the same but in the same I'm fascinated because I'm saying we've got 14 14 femininicide this year?

14, again, at the Quebec only, but when is that it's going to say, when is we

can't be and then sometimes I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm that I'm

that exist again, I'm after all the pictures of the documentaire, the face to monsters,

the trilogy, the three seasons of FAMM, I Teatue. Again, we're in there's a

minute, the guys, to get to me on a day, you know, you know, you know,

it's going to have to inscribe the control coercive in the law. It will have to do the

concrete, concrete, concrete, and the question of the life, you know, when I know,

I'm a minute, I was with the order of the publicer of Quebec, we're trying to

to say to do young, to school, to rapidly ensign the emotions to recognize that and to not

let's explode this color that. Yes, but in the control coercitive and when there's there's not

because they're petted a crisis and they're in crisis of a crisis of it's these strategies that are installed to continue to

control and it's that it's not because it's the choice that but for that but for that is a

primary signalment how we they repair? It's because often the women unfortunately,

sysole. It's not that the women's it's not, they're not, they're not they're doing.

They're they're they're doing, and it's like if they live that alone, you know,

the isolation is an first sign, the isolation, the love bombing, the bombardment of the

I've already out of she's in she's, she, because she she, because she,

she, because she, because she, but she, but she, but she, she, don't know,

they, they, and I said, if we had latched, what's the, what's the, what's,

that's, that's, that's, that's why, it's not, it's not easy. It's not that you say,

because when we say, you know, I think, sometimes, you know, sometimes, you know,

when we say, you know, you know, to pose some, you know, to put, , you know, to get the

channel over, you're not trying to try to let's say, and say, what's, see,

you do it, see, that's, it's important, it's, even him tap his

head while it's her she's she's in this fillet that.

How we we're how we know, I'm at this amy all that I'm at

I'm in, you know, I'm right the door is always open because the day where she will

bring these children to her and she will find she's she has

she has a door and that there's not to have there not he will not have to

have a culpabilization you will not he tap his head, you will he be able to you know, and you know,

and, you know, when I, when I was there, I thought, there's, so I think you have used

to be in talking necessarily that other come, you say, that's you're doing, you're doing his power

also, how do you know, how you go to the relationship? Yes, it's so, it's a

answer to your attention, that, you know, because if you say, me, I'd

durer it's not, you block and you isoles even more but you're still but it's super difficult for the proches and the entourage, it's

very, very, very difficult. Because he, you know, there, there's there, there's there, but they're isolated, they don't,

they're, they will say, well, yeah, but your friend, you don't know how to treat, you, they're going to

talk to, you want to be clear, you see that, it's that, it's that, it's that they do, for

to isolate more they're more they're more they own the control, And during this time, in parallel, they have brised the esteem of the person who is violented

manipulation, you know, I don't even not of coup but, you know, but they've brokenlyly, his colonne vertebral, at casse, little at least, they've been, they've been on his

life, on his liberty, on his power on deciding how she has abe, what she has managed, how she'll elave his children, all that, petit, it's brimed,

brim, brim, brim, brim, So the person is completely Isoled, so an Gourou of sect, of someone, and there, and there, there's a time, there, there's an

intense, we're going to go to the restaurant, and then we jase, and there, he's remonde his vulnerability, and he's like, we've got a little and then we're

and then we're and then we're saying, you know, you're not, you're not going to you're not, you know,

you've been to come to make you, you know, you can't make you, you can't make in doubt, you'd do, oh, what's what I'm doing, is, is correct, how I'm wearing,

I'm trying to see, what's he said, what's going to say? He's going to say that he's going to putt a coache on the end up, he's going to create a drama at the house, so, you know, you're all the time

in trying to temperate, temper, temper, temper, and they're all right, and they're making, the responsibility also of the family on the shoulders, you will break our family,

you want me quitted, you're not enough, I'm not made enough for you, so, so, he's position, it's always, in time a victim, So, you know, when you're in a relationship,

you're all the time, all the time, all the time, so you're not even not the time to put in your recule. It's Elizabeth Rio

the influence of the firm of the entrepreneur, she's come here, and she and she said, she, had to do you,

between the two genus, because it's all the, it's all right and a moment of the end of it, they're

in a minute, it's, okay, that it's, it's going to, a woman that, that, who we're

You know, because it's it could be that you did that and it resone not but there's it resone yeah, what's she she,

you know, she, it's, she, she, she has to understand their value,

and it's that they choose to, and that's it's so much moody, because at every time that

you arrive to part, they're to manipulate, for that you get to to come to do you,

but I'm saying, but I'm, but I'm, but I think that already, to have an eye

exterior, des intervenants, SOS, conjugal, 1-800-3-6-3-90-10, or you call and you pose questions. You'd be valid that what you see, it's not normal. And, you know, you know,

you know, also, that a life without violence, without manipulation, without control, in fact, it's all too passionnel, and it's all extraordinary, and it's so the fun, being in liberty, and, you know,

to have the control on your life, and to reprimed your power. But, At that, you have to you have to face the dey of the story of love because you've

liked, and you've made this person that's often who is often that's always you're the only that's the only

who can't be the sole who you, you have all this responsibility that also. It's like they be vulnerable

in an kind of dependence affective and in the same time it's sire to that

to control all the time. Exactly. It's the control all the time. Because there are very people who are

very, Yes, who are possessive, and the jealousy of the possessivity, but it's not of the amor, so. So, it's all that you have to understand, but it's that

for some sort of, it's that you have to attain your own. And it's often the women, on the mean, we can't get six before to quit.

The famous phrase, why that appare not? No, no, a part. A part, but he arrives at every time, to the time,

at a moment don't know, you go partire, and it's a point, but it you have prepared his fut, because it's

where the feminicide arrive. It's there where they're going to find these times in the times.

Or, it's there where they can't be assassinate the children, it's like, they're

to do you get, so, I'm not to say, I'm not, you know, I've said, you know,

I've said, I'm going to because they want to that you're not, because they're not, so, it's a

future when he is not, to call, call, SOS, violence conjugual, call the

calls, and call the police, and they're going to get to to be able to be in security

to be able to get a time for just calm to get in security and just to be able to be your day, pleurry, just reprimed

your soul because you're at a butt of nerve, you're at the butt of all, you're in you're in so, so

so, so so just to have just to have a congey and to know that you're in security in a house

of abergem or at your friend or, you know, and to be able to and reprint your soul, and reprint your soul, but have the idea

but they change not. But not you're not not saying, not that's super important. And then you're not asking, it's a lot of

responsibility. And so often, it's the kind of person who will not be responsible who will always make the fault on the other.

Oh, yeah, but it's a cause of my past psychological, it's a cause that I've been in the infancy, no,

it's at cause that I've buvets, well, no, there are plenty of people who are alcoholic, and who control not, and who are violented not, there's a great majority. Exactly. So, you know, the excuse,

no, no, no, it's, I've done I'm controlling, and I'm and I'm going to work on my control. And I'm going to tryvary there's the problematic, it's often, in Quebec, the therapy for women, by example, well, after that,

you can't go to verify what's what you can't counter-verifier their proposal, you can't go to validate what What's what's what's going to be dangerous, because often it's these fain, fin, fin, manipulator, so they're

even manipulate the intervenants, you know, so. So, for change, you have really to be responsibleizet and change for true, not use other strategies

to continue to control what they do, they're going to change, but they're changing to strategy for to control. But for you, it's not to control.

It's exactly. It's, you know, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, you know, we know, but I think there are many

who are who are talking about, just recognize just recognize that. Just recognize that. Just recognize that. Just recognize that. It's not a

cut-to-point-in-offace or these coup-point of the mure. Yes, it can be that. But it's all the control that's installed from the debut,

from the bombardment of love. After that, the isolation, you know, the gas light, all these words that,

all, it's that, it's that the violence, the real face of the violence conjugate. Nive-gone? Yes.

You can't give four, if you please. Okay. It's so don't Melvin. But in case,

we don't know to be able to ask, to ask, to and ask, and the entourage to rest available,

even if we don't know, because of sometimes we don't know, but I think that you need to know

to the notion of the notion, it's the notion of I'm I'm available. I'm without without you.

Since judgment. Because I'm I'm, I'd sacri my can, but I'm

See, I don't know. Yeah, but you say that, and it's not right. It's that, exactly. Because, they choose these women super-fort, you know, it's not, it's not these, it's not, we know, in time of society, change our vision. But, well, I'm what I've got to, you know, it's sure, you know, it's so, we'll make it so on neutral. Yeah, it's, we don't, you know, it's, it's difficult to, you know,

it's hard to understand. But, you know, we're putting in a sect, because, like, it's clear, you know, there's a guru, and the enfirope, and you can't say, hey, I'm, I'm sure, I'd startire to do that, No, because, you know, I'm just I'm just, I'm disponial, I'm there, I'm just not, I'm an open up,

I'm coming. Absolutely. After that, after it's passed a pack of affairs and you don't know no more endem. No.

There's an accompaniment that's due long after, also. The reconstruction is not evident. Yes, absolutely. Nive-Nove Joan. Okay.

At which moment have you been, have you due be courageous, how have evolved your amities feminine? Oh, I'm sorry.

What do you to Moe Liberty and what type of amoreoes are you? And now you're on

choose one and I'm on choice one. Perfect. How have you your amit

your amit your family? I think it super interesting because they've evolved. And it's

I've always been one of the boys, okay? At the age of 11 year I had the

little couple champions, my chandai vurnet and the Bermuda I'm

not a job but of rob, nothing that anything that didn't female

I did skateboard, I I used to tennis, I did ski alpine, and I resembled physically to a little girl until the day

where I'm going to get in the toilet and there's a woman who said you're talking to the toilet, the toilet of the

toilet of the place, I'm seeing that the people people think that's a person, but no,

but I'm my mother has started to make an end of an little bando, and I'm

made the rose because I wanted to be to be known to be to be, but all that

to say that I'm all the time I'm always to be with the guys because I'm I'm sure

I'm see to go the hockey let's see to go the Canadian of Montreal I'm

to baseball I'm like the I'm like the I'm not the shiche I'm not what's

typically feminine in our imaginer in our being inclusive it's super important but the

affairs said to feel like I'm I'm never tripe but I When I was an adolescent, I had

to the misery, Ingrid, with the regard, the figure, the people don't know the importance to regard to the other. Oh, there was something.

The adolescence is something, the kids, we change. And I'm, in the case, I'm just, I'm not, not in the

part of sportive, but in the side, it was more complicated. There was a question, a cuch of

a plus, there. So, the fee, he memm not so, because I'm with their chum,

you know, and I was with my gang of boys, and I tripe with us other. So, there's all the time had all the time. And I rarely

made confidence to all the time. It's been my secondar. Yes, I've used these amities feminine, but it's my gang of boys, me, with who I tripelle the plus. And I've been blessed also by these

there are a gang of a few, I remember again of their name today, there's one that's called, but they've been intimidated at the school. I, you know, I received a pot of yogur

his head, I'd be in casse, I was, I was a comedian, you know, I'd do you, I'd do the figuration, I'd do the publicity, so, so, so, it's been long time I, I've been not wanted to have

a chum of a fee just to the day where, you know, I've evolved, and I've put to make confidence, I've met my gang of Pinsess,

that I've called Julie Belanger, Caroline Markoo, Mariev, Pott-Vin, Chantal Cadieu, my grand chum, you, Stefani Lefefe, I've been

tranquilly, and I'm to move to an amitia feminine. And to understand that's not all the women

who are like that, and there are that I'm also, you know, and there's not just some some of the hand in the

end of the time, she has really evolved with the time, and I think that's what you're what's the

thing? What's the thing, my soup of my princess, it's my therapy, we jaze,

we jase to, ah, it's the verity, it's the authenticity, we do

always a tour of table of how it's how it's I don't know for real, I'm interested not, I'm interested not, it's how it's going, how it's with your chum, how it's about with

your own time, how it's going to be for real. And we, we've seen in our more lay, in therapy, in a manoir with, you know, we've talked publicly

Julie and me a couple of times, you know, and she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she had, in depression,

in burnout, I was, in the debut of depression, and I was We didn't know. So, we've seen with the mascara

just in the back of the jules, to pleurry, to be in our great blessure, we were in

talking about, we're in a therapy, I said, in a center in a center in a place, so,

you know, we've seen in our more light, and in our more we've been vulnerable,

to be vulnerable at a maximum. So, so, so, today, we're there, we go

there, all right, it's, it's the people, they're the people, it's my chanteau far

I know they're going to make just at the time that I'm and there's never anything that I'm

going to be able that you can be able to that's super security and the humiliation he's not there.

When you're that, that it's not you're not you're not no no plus, you're ingris

to fallace totally totally yeah so that's there's not there's not there's not

so it's rare the people people who run in my life to

at which I the door of my knee and of my intimacy so my gang of my chum

I'm, I'm completely who I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not afraid

to say, and how is what's a great liberty to be able to be an reality, well,

you know, it's, like, in this moment I'm not not really, but I'm super

vulnerable, and with, with conscience that I'm because I think you're because I know, and I

see that you want to be in take care. But with it's, you know, sometimes

I'm thinking to think, I'm just being funny, we can dance to get to talk to or not talk.

Or not to be that. If I'm Maraboo, I'm, I feel the not today the feet,

we're going to see, in a pitch, in Moe at Charrot, and it's just be that and it's correct

and we seem like so also and that's the fun it's not with all people,

that we just just be a But it's important to find that in her life because it's not your nooyal

your nooyal everyday, you know, because there's you're kind of you're kind of you're in mind it's a choice that you do

to go with her and be able and that it's really a filet of security important. Totally. It's a

liberty profound in fact it's an effect secondaire interesting of the therapy

fairly really totally it's a It's a chance inouye also. You know, it's not with any people who's not

that in their life, no more. I see, not you know, if you're some people. Yeah, I'm like that.

Yeah, but, and also, Marcia Pilote, Marcia, I mean, we're saying, when we're

seeing, we're six months without you know, we're, we're talking, we're talking, we're past two years

and we, we're doing our counterer a day, but it's always like, I don't how to say

it's like it's like it's like just the old, there's like the there's not there's not

there's not there's not there's not it's totally who we're not this is totally I'm not but I'm not

with my chum of a few it's like you know when I'm like I'm like I'm I'm like

you know it's not so far you do you're playing what's what you do you're you're trying to it's like I'm

reason. I have not seen that even. I like, I like, I like, I'm the back in the way.

Oh, we, we, we, we can't get in the other also, but we can't you say the real things.

I've got to a one of my friends there, there's already that's got to that, it's not, no,

no, but, you know, I've got to do that. But that's it's like a time of minute,

whoa, I'm there's a thing, I'm something, you know, it's, I'm,

it's that that's that it's that who is in arre all the time. So, there's

a person that's that you don't because we know that's to help

to help to be able to be a lot in fact. Ah, but that it's

precious, preceue, we'll not be so. No. What type of amoreuse

is you? I'm an amoreuse completely amourous with my chum. It's

had been long before I could be an amourous like a You know, I

I'd I'm not in love after the monster, I'd don't know I'm not

that the guys were in love with me and I'm my friends but I'm but I'm

wouldn't say vulnerability to be in love and I have fear of so, so I

want that I'm more that I'm like they're I'm sure I'm more I'm much than amitia

than amort you've got a little control yeah exactly and I I was, you know, I

was, I didn't dependant of this love that that was dangerous for me, you know, so, I'm in control

the situation. When I got found out of Cedric, I was completely and perduement in love

with him, and it's the first time that I'm really, it's not 15 years, in what?

In what context, you're in contrast, you're I'm because he shanted,

my chom, he's, there, he's entrepreneurs general, but he chanted, he's,

bottle. So my my friend, Stephanie Crave-Blay, she tripe on the guitarist. It's really nizue, and she was

train to watch the show. And I've seen Cedric his micro who had, ah, he was

totally, it had no sense, he shanted, he was beautiful, and I found really

really cute, and he came to be over after his spectacle, and he came to

bring a ver with me, on on Facebook, we've received a week after,

he'd I was working at a restaurant. He was a gyrant there was over. And I'm going to be in 11 hour the

night. My friend he had said, come out of the guitarist and he said, come to save, so I'm going to be able

to have to save but Cedric who was in my Angle Marr. And it was a cut to fudre

really electric that total. And it's that, he had demanaged to us a month after he is arrived

with his sack, and he The first time that we've not passed, you know, the time

it's paris, it's when I'm in New York recently. Yeah, it's been fusional

for 12 years. I'm an love who I'm profoundly, who is there for the other

who, yeah, I'm, I'm done, I'm in love. I'm and I'm

attend also to what we don't in return. We, we've grown together, we've

repaired our blessure and we're going to therapy together very, very to

in our relationship Oh, okay so it's kind of interesting. Yeah, it's

a new language that's different. Yeah, we're going to see, Louis Siguin and,

when I did my therapy in the manoir, it was Louis Louis Siguin was there. Yeah,

yeah, I'm one of some of some of some of some, and so, we're

on therapy together to understand for our blestures and to part to start on

on the base solid. You know, we're really choosy, we have chosen to

grandir far ensemble. It's not always been easy. There's been there's a lot of

but we're solid, and we're passing to travel, you And he, and he had two children.

Oh, yeah, there's a old, your son, it's the father, it's Cedric,

so you have not an un' didn't want, you, you didn't want to

at this time, so it's so it's kind of a thing that you

had also to have to Yeah, well, and Mael, he is autistic, intellectual, you know, there was six years when I got, and it came with his, the other defy, you know,

and then, he had two years. So, it's a baby, I'll say, a two years, he ported encore, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's true, it's, that I'm in love with him, and his baggage, is that he arrived

with two children, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm in love with him, and with his two children, I, I'm met met with his own family, Puffet,

it's my surname, Puffet, But it's my children. You know, I'm they're able like

if it's the mine. And she's there's a grandpapa, my father, my father, my mom,

my mom, my mom, my mom, in the sense that my sister, it's their tantes,

it's always never, never sent a difference and they're they're never, and their frarer, they're their

frere, so we've created a great family reconstitue. You know, you're three

children? Three children, yeah. And a one, a few a few

a few But, you know, in time, I don't but I've always wanted to be a family of acue, I've always wanted to have

to have a lot in my life. But I thought, I had fear of being enceined, and I thought that there were

there was too of life, who had been a life for it to make an other on earth, you know,

I don't know, I'm trying, I could tell them I could tell them I'm telling, but finally it's Sidreik abandoning who

said, it's going to get your friend, it's you're telling mom, you're telling impiqued,

you like, you love the time you have to offer this cardo that and it's been I started to and I'm saying

I'm saying I'm going to a year after two months later I'm in front and when you see that's when you're

asking? Hey, it's it's been I remember I'm not back you're not going to get to

because I'm sure that I had a gastro and I'm sure I'm not I'm able I can't be able to

I'm able to get the part of after two hours it's part so I'm I'm going to

me to search a test of grossess and I I'm telling when it's it's a fact you're pregnant

so I'm so I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm saying I'm saying how I'm saying I'm saying I created a

board and I made in a board I write a little bit more and at through his eyes

I'll I'll be able and I'm and I'm and he thought he thought he said he'd

think you yeah you're super content it's it changed a change a life

yeah you've already the two other the two other of children, but to port to, is it in your

car also, is it has made a different to say, this car that's made also to give the view? It's changed

my vision of my car. Yeah, I've honored my car of an other fashion,

my car that I, you know, I'm maltreated there, but I'm honored my car, and

I'm so so, I'm so, I'm gonna just, I'm just to be just to end up,

the 32 hours of accusement, I'm so, I found when he bouged at the interior of me,

you know, I'd talk, you know, I'd do you, I'd promen my hands on

to, you and I'm talking about and when I was met back, Emile, it's been

the most great of my life, I'm a remember, it's, it's been

an accouchment terrible, Cesarian of urgence, and I would not that we

could, he'd let the cordon, batt! And, you know, and the cordon,

It was a long time that he was cuted. And then, he ran me, my son, and I'm here, my baby, and then I'd be able to hear my voice, and I had a lot, and I had a blow to do you see? So, so it's capote, like, it's capote, like,

and he'd say anything, he pleurret not, and he had left these grand blue, like two grand lacke, and he mo'ed, all simply. And Emil is to arrive. He had always been very

very, very, very, in his car, in his maturity, in his discussions, in my plus one, it's we're together for the

rest of our days of the rest of our and it's amazing there's a year, yeah,

yeah, magnificent, that so that's I'm a amourous implicated, and a man really,

but a great family. Yeah, yeah, it's great to be five, it's, oh,

yeah, voyager, it's a go to share. No, but it's it's, it's,

it's, there, there's, there's a with a family, and in the table

an table entoured of an absolutely, absolutely, It's vivant. It's a bit. I'm not

anewy. Nah, bar, yeah. Niveau Ruge. You can't give you. You'll give you. You'll

respond to a question in the level of the level of So it's it's, perfect, important. At what

Beaudhose Cedric reponts, so when I said that in the game, there had these

little anomalies in voice one, what's what you preoccupue and what you're

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What's he preoccup? It's by a part those children. You know, my children,

they're going and it and it's preoccupate in which world they they're going to be

about the climate, by a part of the environment, by about the totoe

on the head, the logements that cost to more more share,

by a, you know, what's what's going to see, what's the masculineism toxic that

brings to more and more than more to do you, it's all that I'm preoccupy. It's

me preoccupy to be a very, very good mom also, and to their inculke

these great value, you know, for me, the equity, it's super important,

the equality, it's super important. It's preoccupue my fashion

that they comprehend the and that be the people, and our society. I think

in as a parent that we have a grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, grand, role. The words we've chosen to use, it can be impacted

for the restant of their job, so. So I'm all the time this preoccupation that also.

So, it's, it's a world they're going to be a lot of people. And I

think that, I think, I think that it's going to be in the good children,

I'm going to see, Emil, you have there's super their good Valour

and also he develop his own personality so my accompaniment he is super super important

I'm there I'm always always at but I let's be developing also you understand

it's that my great preoccupation is to be the mayor possible and without their

fear but there there's a there an there's an equilip important and I'm

not It's always evident, I find, the equilibrium. Because, you know, we mean, we have our our fears and our anxieties related to climate actual. But not their don't know. It's not. It's not, but it's not, but it's not, but it's

there, can't. For that I've made some work on me. You know, it's for my son. I've written the most of the suite for, for, for that mama was liberate totally, to, for not he don't know my power.

You know, the trauma transgenerational I'm preoccupied to that also. So, I'm going to get it, my mother, my grandma, for not that it so I'm not that it's so I'm

quite you know I'm very a lot your parents at your story how they're how they're

because we're talking about we can imagine how they've been preoccupied oh yeah by rapport to you

yeah it's what the contact that is to do that with them is that you know

you know I think you know I've asked they've learned many things if it

us rapproached, we've always been very, very, tricotet, serried.

I think, you know, in time, when you know, when you have a thing, we've been in

the impuissance, the proche all right, you're doing, you know, you know, you have to make the mask of oxygen

on you, also, you, before, and you have to be to take, so they're going to go, so, to understand,

to understand, to understand, the issue, to understand in what I'm, but, you know, my father,

we're, there, he's, that I'm with you today. He's called this morning, he called every

day, we're talking about every year. It's the love of my life, my father, my mother

was there, my mother, my mother, it's my idol also, you know, we're very, we're very

proche as family, my seurs, it's the same thing. So I don't know if it's

it's, but I'm due to their demand by account, especially my mother, to get

to bring this story that also. At a a moment of a day go and get to you know, I'm wondering, I don't know

for them, is there there's a question, maybe that's like they would have to pose the question, but like, like, like,

of the culpability there in in the time? Yeah, because you have you, you have to find the peace

also, absolutely, he's to start to that. Yeah, but in the documenter,

face of the reconstruction, I interviewed my parents, you, and we're there, yeah,

of the culpability it's sure because you have not been able to save your but at moment

don't know, it's that I'm going to completely a year. So I'm going to you know,

it's so that you're going to do you see that I'm going to say, you're two choice in the way,

so be victim your life and tryne your body, or so to take your bagge of view,

and look to look and I have done something, and I'm able to be completely,

you know, it's, it's, it's, to be the voice, it's liberate talking, talk,

it's all over all over the boles, all over, it's all if this story that my partene

to be, I partene to the public. You know, we have made a lot of things, so I'm in

my mom, you also, it's also, we've got to be able to that story that's able to that's able to

that's, I'm doing a couple of times, because one of time my mom is capable

to make like, oh, yeah, when I was when I was in a two weeks,

she'd not try to she'd not like I had had to come, you know, it's good, you know,

I'm, I'm sure, I'm, you know, and all the way, you have not to have not to get a ballet, you know,

you don't have to get it active or to guard this story that active. Go, we're on a while, you know,

and what's that's the preoccupop also, I have the, I have to understand how about your son,

because you're a cell, who's a cancer of sin, how it goes presentment? There,

there's my father, the cancer of the prostate, he is in radiotherapy in this

moment, and my little sister cancer of cancer of in this moment. So, you know, it's

a lot of and it's super preoccupant. My little sister, cancer of stint, 5, stade 3 at

39 years, two young children, she has passed at the five months of chimio,

an force of the nature, like all the families that's after that. And then

had had had been mastectomy and they are going to refer it, it's complicated

there, but, you there had been many of things, and there radiotherapy

for to be assured that all the thing. Now the affair is that we understand that

it's not not terminated and that's not terminated and there a total recidiv that is

quite there is a choice and I think she has it has been to get on a protocol of research

or they go and they're injecte a little of chimeo every several months

or a year for bacee the cost you we think it we thought it it was terminated after the

radio and we just It will not terminate. And, you know, because it's a cancer that

is hormonal. So it's sure that you have to find this chance that to make the protocol because

you want to diminish your chances of recidiv, but it will impact her life. So, you,

return to work, we don't know again, and it's a very, very recent, we've been

to learn, she came to it's like, oh, la, so it's, it's still other battle to come,

but it's a force of the nature. She's super resilient, and she's excessively positive. So, so her experience of cancer impact our experience of cancer. You know, it's not lured. And if it's it low, it would, it would, it's correct

also. But she knows our experience, by procuration, there, because she's so much, she's totally positive. Is she like like that? Has it always been like that?

It's correct. It's, you know, I'm to say, to say, if she, she's not days, it's correct also, and she, she, she, it's, it's not a mechanism of defense like what, she has made semblance,

but she, she, she, she, Lisa, that's a woman, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's, she,

she's able to train, she, she's, she, and a professor, also, so, she's a woman with a lot of talk,

and she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, that, it's a, lot, it's a lesson, of life,

you know, I'm, well, I'm, morning, it's not grave, you know, mitri-pott per ruck,

it's like it's like that it's like that it's a opportunity, is it an emergency to live? Yes,

it's a opportunity and a regard on the health that's different. You think that it's

never that it's not, it's for that I'm implicated in several foundations, I've had 24 hours

of trembling, in this moment it's procur. For me, it's super important. In line

with your father, in line with my father, it's important to port these cause

that 24 hours of trembling it's because the I mean, the malady

frape at any any part, you know, your situation you know, it's not where you

get, if you're rich, if it's, it's, it's, it's a point, so,

the research advance, and it's that I'm in light, Lisa, when we are going to

see, when we're going to do exactly what she had exactly what she had been in place,

and he said, a instant, Lisa, I'll come in five minutes, I'm

going to go, to see if there's not a new protocol because it's changed at every six months and I'm and he's revenu and he said

no, it's the good protocol that you have for you're in this moment. But this protocol there exists because there's

been 20 years because there was the money that had been injected because there have been 24 hours, because there's

there's a campaign procured because there there's the new papion that's been because because the

research, it's so over the life concretement and it's attenue it's It's attenue the

amount of the malady, you know, it's for that's important to it's important to the humanize in fact.

We're talking about of research, research, yeah, but it's concrete, you know, yeah, she's a,

she has the result of these researchers. Yeah, totally. It's, it's, it's important,

you know, it's important, because, you know, cancer of 139-year, it's young too, I've been

long time, I've been long time, you know, during these days, and, you know,

it's a a part of 50 years, the mamma, before 30 years, the density of the same, so it's

more than it's a man who, I'm sorry, I'm in my family who have used that between 40 and

50, then she. And she, she, she had been three years. And she, she said,

a boss in so she'll have imagine, for that she's getting there's that, it's

there's a there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's,

because there there, because there, there's, because, your son, you're even more

more young than that. You know, I've heard a man, she has been a diagnosis she, I think,

at 35 years, and, you know, at the time, the research was more advanced, probably that, if she

she'd be even more living, you know, if she had been in, she had there,

probably, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, the research, me also,

I'm implique much for the research, I think, for the people, the charcher, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, for mount to the team and test

a molecule and see it's, there's it's hard to understand but when you're

when you do it we understand yeah level eros and company so you

so you don't there are there are four you're just just a one

two three thank so so are you are you comfortable

in the sphere in the prefer you sayduing or to

do And of what your life intimate to have evolved with the time? Oh, wow.

Ah, I can do get on my Joker now? No! Yes,

well, yes, you can go sort of soon. No, no, no. If I'm

comfortable in the sphere of the intimacy Okay, I'll take this

that. Okay, perfect. Well, it's really with my chum that I

can't learn to me do the right to the Intimity, me the right

to give the right, to not just don't just donate to the other, but to take the right

to the right of pleasure, the right, you know, for me, it was, you, I've been,

I've used these violence sexual in the past, so I was, I had more in the representation or,

you know, you don't, you know, that it finished, like, you know, when you, when you,

when it had the moment of intimity, Was it, is it so? I'd enter not in the part of the

part of and in the real intimacy. You were in the point of technique and more in my head, you know,

I was not capable to resentire, I was, I was, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't,

I was, and I was blocked, so I'd play, I joined more a personage. So,

it's not, it's really with Cedric, who is someone of, you know, who touches so,

it's someone of, he is very sensual and he is very in the touch and in the in the, in the, in the, in the, in the,

you know, he like, you know, that's, you know, and that's, so, that's, so it's really with him, that I've

learned to be to let's go, and I've put me open in this intimity, that, so,

so it's really with him, that I've been with him, that I've been to be able to the famous security.

I'm sure, secure in my couple, I was secure in the intelligence emotional that had at my

regard, I was secure in the partage of the trauma, so he was, so I said, I would

take care of me, who had not me humilied, that, you know, all these blessings that we're

talking about that's really, so it's really because it's a state of great vulnerability, the abandon

when we in the intimacyity sexual, and the intimacy emotive, but also

by rapport to your it's, it's, it's kind of, it's quite, it's quite, without a

without, but you're abandoning. It's me that's not being abandoned, you know, to be abandoned, at the beginning, I mean,

I'd make out at every time that we had a argument, because you didn't, I'd like, I'd like,

I'd like, I'd like, I'd say, I'd like, I'd say, he'd be, to say, he'd be,

he's there, to say, it's grand, to say, I'm going to I'm, I'm going to I'm going to

always rest. So we can do sassow in our relation, and we can really be

to be able to be able to and get a down? It's a great idea of an enormous intelligence.

But he he has come from where you have put there. There's been. Because for

he had pretty notes. He had pretty notes. Yeah, yeah, he used

my book, it's been my first letter, and he had put to be to be

to say to tell or tell fashion, my famous mechanism of defense,

it's because it was it It came to there and he he has chosen

to end to be in trying to be in it's the same thing, it's the same,

I'm able to he's able to see, but it's kind of something, it's a

love. Yeah, but it's so it's because you your trauma are major that you

should have could be to be fair also? Absolutely absolutely you know that's saying

okay we have we have a lot of we're but But before, I'd not, you know,

you know, it's really with him, it's he who's he who's, he's, I'd have put

the choice to not say to not say to be in my pattern because it's like to control the relationship.

Because you know, it's all-in, it's all-in, if you want to do you want to do you know,

you know, and you know I'm over, and you have to be access to my vulnerability, if it's, it works not,

it's, you know, what I'm I said, it's not that's not true that, but I haven't been written the books again.

It's not that, it will malleve the right to be in love. And it's after a year that I'm

with Cedricke, that's to write, that's like, to be able to be able to be able to get to know.

At the first, he, he was tramped to my night during the night

because I did the cochemore so much, he was he's revee with me, my

my doads of the feet, he was crisped, my hands were crisped, and he made to de-crispe my men, he made to respirate. He had been a pillier very, very, very, very powerful. At what do you respond?

To the need of security. He responds to this business, to be to be able, he respond to my... And when he said, I'm not there, I'm not there for partire,

he'd been to secure your power of abandon, entre out. Yeah. He's been, Cedric, I think,

who is entered in my life for me to make to make

confidence at new, to get to get to do these and it's in relation

that's that's that's in relation that it can get that it can't

be able there, you can't you can't be confronted to

to but it's in it being being confronted that you

can that you can get used after that's how you do

you attribute the the qualitative Courageous. Qualificative, is to say,

courageous. Because, what I'm, what I'm what I'm understand, it's that it's not

bad by the courage for, for just not, you know, to say,

I'm going to say, but I know what that's that is in relationship, but I

will do do that. It's can't do courage to talk, it's being

unerable, it's courage, to start to be in a relationship to get,

you know, I think that's an preint of obstact and it's how you do you

do you face? I think the courage the courage does the courage

to get in relation with Cedric the courage to noming the

courage to not come in the victimite and stay there's

it's it's easy and it's easy and to add to that, but the courage to start out of a depression, to get to start, of a mechanism of defense, all that, all of that,

it's courageous. You've had really need to, it's my alarm? It's your phone? My telephone. You think you have to respond? Well, no, it's just an alarm that I've got to that it's all right. It's all right

that's all right. I mean, it's only, you know, I'm sorry, hey, I'm excused. Well, no, it's correct. It's a little intermede to open your game, it's it may the table for opto-rezo. Well, yes, it's perfect.

I've got plenty of message. Okay. Well, they're in rest. It's perfect, perfect. It's because you've been a lot of things. It's a long history. It's not a cold.

It's not a long story. It's not a problem. Last question. At your question, optoorrezo. At which moment have you reprie? Oh, it's so many these gross questions.

Espoor of a life meyer. Ah, you know, I I mean to Cedric, it's it's a point of turning in my life. After having

written, the book, The Monster, I've got received of message of women, of women, of parents,

the messages of the stories, I'm like, I'm not all, I'm not all the world to have

seen that. You know, all the people, it has changed my life. All right, all the

people and have the courage to be venerable and to be vulnerable, and to talk Offer your story. Yes.

That, to offer it, it's like, oh, we're we're all, we're all right collectivelyly. And, yes,

there's an effort of life better because we can't be and I'm that. There's a

point turning in my existence. And all what's that's there's all the act

of resilience also, you know, to make something, to create a book, a second,

to find a a second, a thirdium, to go to go to front on level political,

to make a party of a road for to make the changements on the social social

that's like it's like, hmm, it's it's per it's it's it's,

I think I think it's the power the power again yeah all that I'm,

uh, after to 2015 there had a change major in my life that has

been who is still right? Yes, but thanks to who

people who who we because of who, who, to public, grace to the community and the

community? It's super-pucent we're coming to in talking to the community. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And of this partage that who, who aid the people,

almost each volite your story to be someone. I think that.

But, thank to have been there. Thank you. Thank you. And we say,

thank all the whole to have been to be next podcast. Bye-bye. This episode

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