Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #136 - Marina Bastarache | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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we'll let see the place to Marina. It's difficult to explain I'm

I remember that I'm in the mirror, and the pance that I've was all

too a lot, a girl positive, and that today, do more, and I'd never thought

not intelligent, I'd try not bad, I'd like, who's who's going to be to do you, like,

it's, like, it's, all, all past, and I, and I had like this kind of of presence

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Randolph.ca. She is in studio hyper pettient. Like I was you said in the end of the mission, I have had

to have a discussion with this young woman. I like these where we make like our

our generations ensemble and it does always where we know so welcome Marina Bastarach.

Thank you M.C., I'm like M.C., I like you my grand chum. I adore that you

call M.C. But I tell you, at each time, I talk to, you know, MC barrette, like if, I see, I don't know, we're on brunch at all the Saturday and all, but you're emcee for me. And why I'm M.C.? There's no idea. Is it known in an other life? Well, perhaps. I don't know.

We're probably that, maybe it's your best proximity that you have with the people, you know, even when we're listening that you've made, what you feel, that I feel like M. But the past is I know person of other that I call M. But, yeah, but I'm sure. But, I'm sure. But, I'm, I'm, but, I'm, but, I'm, I'm, but, I'm, but, I'm, I'm, but, I'm the proximity. I like that the proximity with the people that there's not

a distance. So, so you're the first that we're receiving, because we've received, because we've received, your conjoint, Lou Pascal, Tremblay there's quite many years. It's the first time we're receiving the couple. So, it's all the questions that Lou Pascal, no, it's not real. You know, it's like, imagine, you. Imagine, how?

No, but I think that, I think it's interesting to you, to you know, to find out of you, And, you know, because I think you have to learn to get a I'm really excited to have to be in front me.

You're really excited to see. Honestly, it's about I'm going to have 35 in two weeks, and the ten of something really fun.

So, I think, I think you think you think you're like you're like it's like a grand

meneage of who you have in time, to who you want to come to come, to, okay,

there's a little bit of Chimine, you do fit, he's still, but where I'm

going to do you what I'm important for me, um, with what I want to be me ground-de,

the great questions of the life, and we're like the 30-and- and I think, it's really

the fun, and I'm saying, yeah, there may be a minute of the years,

it's not a lot of, you're more, you're more, you're more, you're much, the day,

the day, the day, the day, the day, I'm not that I'm well, I think really not.

I think I'm not. I think that I had a lot of things and there's many people, and I didn't, I didn't know

that it was in me, I'm super open to say, I've made a long therapy with a psychologist for three years every week,

she'd like, even when I was like on Sri Lanka and FaceTime it, you know, like I'd like, my rendezvous at every

time, and again today she, she, she, of a way sporadical, I've said,

but I've applied to me know, I've already to find out of my young 20thens. I'm like, there's a problem

with me, I'm doing it a problem with me, it's like I would all the time with my friends, but it's

these insecurities, some, the, some, I'm not, I'm not I'm not looking in the

mirror, but I'm not looking in it's like, it's like, it was, there was, a link

of what you you had vicar, and that you lived, it's like it's like to

it's always that, yeah, exactly, and to learn to learn to to get to our default,

because our our default are there, we're going to be not so they're not so much,

to learn to try, to be, at a way, to be, I'm not patient,

I'm not I'm all the time, it's that I'm not saying, but I'm not the person

the person the more patient that's at time, I'm you can't be calibed. me to understand, or I'll address it.

But it's going to rest a trait of character. It's that, that's what I mean, I'm able to be able to address, to say, you know, it's been a bad reason,

it's not a good sense, my impatience, you know, I'm able to be able to me comprehend, and that's too. But you've done. But you've done,

I'm 25 years. Well, yeah, because sometimes it's, it's going more than that. Yeah, but on I'd say, it'd be, I'm,

it'd be, it's a blocker at some, yeah, and is, is ready to open to open, to open,

learn. Now, I'll explain. Nive, level Vervear, it's questions

general. The level of general, it's the questions more specific. Nive Ruge,

it's the questions, there's some, there's questions kind of people, people,

in fact, Spaceman, it's the level Patreon, Nive Ros, his company

sensual and sexual, hey, I, I'm not my Joker, and opto-re-

So, I'm asked to my question, I'm going to continue, because

that's it's your Joker. That's it's always the card that's a car that's a nice way to terminate the game, to

get a great interview like that to finish the yeah, we're going to be able to start this chapter well, we're going to get

if we're not a joke we're doing another card so not on my team you know, you make like

I'm like I'm like you know, but you know, I'm still still and I'm even already joined at your

to show to society with Lou's have you have you the rouge okay it's with the

Ah, a Joker. And, a Joker arrive by Miracle, the voice. So you know the game?

Is it practised the answer? No. I'm just just said, I'm just just said, I'm

a shoe on the soup, let's go. But it's so it's a lot state of the spirit

because you know, when we talk, it's rare that we arrive with an order of the

day, you know, in the in the spontaneity and it's and you it's a matter

premier, it's, it's, so we You don't, you brush the cards, you and I don't give five, if you please. I'll put your

joker there. Like if I could say that's that I'm trying to do with it. Yes, because you're like to have to look

that's like. I love the two others. I've seen me don't know the two I'm like, it's like my semblance of control that I'm not put in

the phone, you know, you know, you've got, to choose one, to which you do respond, and after that I'll choose one.

What is your rapport with the authority? what importance accord you to the regard of the other

what person has made a difference in your life what is your more and when I

when I look in the mirror I've seen I'll choose one that's all the

part it's a bit more tricky every every that I'm every I'm

I'm I'm I think I'm we're in we're in deep okay

go see. My more great fear. Okay, perfect. Because it's a new power. Oh.

I'm, I'm sorry to approach 35 years. I'm afraid to not be to have to have an infant.

Not that I'm trying to but I'm doing that I've seen my age to arrive my 35

and it has been 305 on 35 on 305 we're up to after now

a groseose geriatric It's it's it's probably be complicated I'm

I'm never exposed to to could have been in a second. So, that's going to be

complicated for me. I know, I'm playing about the story around to me of people who that's not going to be

that's a problem, I'm going to be able to be able to be able to be able to? Is it long time that you've been the children?

That's, my family, my family is very particular. When I was young, I was certain I wanted to have

because, I'm a friend and a sister, who are the prunel of my eyes again, again, I

adore that to be in a, I'd say, I'm going to be grand family, for today. So I'm saying,

I'm saying, oh, it's sure I'm going to a lot of my own, so it's a point of course, I'm going to

when I'm going to because I'm going to because I wanted because I wanted because I wanted to try to love. You want to be able to

your own unconditional? An amor inconditional. There will always someone who will be me me. So it was

really more like egoist, I said, like, because I was because I was because I was because I was

going to be in therapy. I discovered been things on my and then I don't know, I

don't know, I don't know I'm a I'm in a lot, I'm in a lot of

because you can't be a person to be a good parent, but it's sure that you're there's a defense and you

will transmit to do and you go and the end with that it's a life and I'm saying, I

don't know this responsibility that's been too, I can't imagine my man, imagine my person is malade and then I

imagine my there's probably impossible I'm not perhaps you're like you've made a fact of you

There are these scenarios. Yeah, and at a moment of then in my 30th, like I said, we said, and I said, there's plenty of things that I've made

in my life that were quite who had made so much, so what I'm going to be able to because I'm afraid,

certainly not. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm asked the question, I'm in where I'm in, and I realized that I had

really fear to pass at a-cote to be maman. I had really fear to pass to this

beau moment that, who seem so much difficult, but too, and who

reconcilied with the family, with plenty of things, that I'm more, okay, I'm really more of

having to be to be able to that I'm so I think, that I want to have an child, so,

so, so you know, the age, alim of the light, I'm, but, you know,

the, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm talking a medicine, so,

but it's, so, so, so, at the 35 years, because I have many people who are around your age

and who are really a lot of a grotesque and it's really because there's like a little more risk but I'm curious

to be curious to because of the problem there's a difference in 30 years and 45 Yeah, absolutely. But it's

there's, I think the word geriatric for you it's like an urgency. Yeah, but the fact there's more

the risk for more, more of risk for the risk of malformation, of down syndrome, Like, you know, it's these

things to what I'm exposed, because I'm under this age that, you know, after that, is it, is it simple,

to come in scint? Because there's a decline at the, of the ovaries, the ovule at a part of 35 years,

especially at after 307 so that's my little research, yeah, you can't have been far

congely, there, you can't there, there's all sorts of things like so, but I'm

really, really, really, fear to pass to go to. But is that you could

like decided to have a little? I'm I'm in my partner is in

reflection. So, so in so that we're not where we are. Okay,

but it's in the air there. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that I got

that I got, at a minimum one, you know, I'm trying to have

a lot to have to be so I'm going to have to have been. And in

the same time, you can't, just receive the love but it's

to end it's a naisue I'm in my life one who's I'm accompanied

to 15 to 30 and then I'm my little I'm with Loo just

and you like it's certain that the night he's my vowing and it

and it's it's the very but it's that I'm that I'm that I'm sure

not I'm like I'm I'm I'm worried for you, I'm that a

child and a chien is not a same thing, but I realize that the first of the whole of the

first of the first of the whole, my chien is a little tron, I'm a little trotelel because I'm

talking to stay the veterinary there's a problem, he's a bit of little bit of there's a food of table,

there's an infection at a pat, an infection to get, there's a thing I'm saying so I'm so I've got,

I've got, I'm quite sometimes sometimes, um, these little moments that I don't don't know

like that I don't even sometimes, I mean, that, it's not to... You're patient. But for a time I'm trying to...

Yeah, but not in this case that. No. In the case, you're patient. Like, I'm like,

because you have the love in there. Yeah, it's a relationship, you have a... You know, with...

You know, with the animals, that's... It's so, and, you know, and, you know, to me say, to me say,

I've got to to get in the house, because I go to go to my pennib to have been to be in

to be in a child, I'm to turn to at home and to nourry my chien. You comprehend? That, so, I mean, I mean, I see not in which world I'm not

happy in terms of your time. So, so your fear, is to not be able to be able to have one, in the phone? Is it eventually,

is you thinking at the adoption? I'm not to do you not at the adoption. I think even that it's beautiful. You know,

my brother, he's married with his co-pain, and they're on the list of attend for the DPJ. The bank

mix? Yeah, Is it even if it's called for the new-nays? Ah, for the new-knows, no, it's because the bank-knit, it's when you want also, perhaps, you know, it's like,

because you've got a de-placement? Well, no, you can have a placement bank-mix very pretty, but now they're in-attante in all, it's all, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, they've got a another three-year, so, the bus to be an adopted, and, you know, I'm saying, hey,

imagine, if I'm if, I'm also, I could adopt a child, and, you know, my friend also, there's an an infant adopted, and there's like a

great story, I think, in the family, that's not just an infant, but that's his cousin also, who's adopted. There's something that I'm in there

but I'm not ready to get a trait on, I'm not to not try to try to put it. I'd like that try to putt

a man. And you have kind of working far, your car, you know, because maybe there's a lot

but you're really a great dancer, but it's really, but it's a time where it's my METY, yeah, but it's that, but it's a part of your history, it's a part of your life, and

your car, it's something that you possess well, too, so, you know, so, now, so, it's your next question, it's your next, the next question that you're going to do that, and I'd like, that's, like, that, I'm, it's the, you know, I, it's a lot, you, like,

I'm, you know, if you're, because you're stressed, you, when I said, I'd say, I'd say, if you, is, you, at cause of the image of your car, that, for real, that, entomably, I'm a counter-few. If I finish with these cicatrice,

you know, like I'm going to have to putt a life. Hey, what's chance, what I'm more I'm more

in mode, I'd like that to puttie the life, and to have my nine months of gestation and have a

baby in health, like that's that I'm in ten? I'd like that. I'm very that.

It's a beautiful, you know, you know, to want to want to want to be, as

that's possible or not, but to have this period that is kind of exciting. Because there's like an inconcue to that.

But that's, you know, at the beginning, I think I was in combat with that versus that I'm saying, I control,

I don't, and I hope that it's good, and I hope that the health be able to that,

and then the rest it's for that there are that there are saying, oh, well, you know,

when I'm when I'm when I'm to me look at the numbery, I do not that,

but it's just that when we talk to us, we're a grand boot that's but when we adopt, we have an

child, it's a point how it comes to be that, we control more much and the

lach is pre is that we have not the time, we have been we have put the time there,

we have been we're not, we're not, it's because that if you if you don't make a magic it's, you

you know, you know, you know, you know, there's there's there's there's,

you know, So there's something of a beau in, it's a it's a a belle it's a

real humanity to find the parentality. The question that I'm choosing is how much that's

according to regard to the other because you're not an grand influence it's a

community in the dance and the there's a lot of I think where you know what's

you know even in my mark Nana de Brent I don't know it's me it's me

the majority of the campaign in the mannequin there's there's there

there's there So, it's droll because I could say that yes, I agree an importance, I accord an importance of regard,

but no. I'm still in the no. You know, I'm, I think, to be a

good person, a good human, I think that, over the brand, I try to feel the

women, I'm trying to find the female, I try to get all the time in the time black, small,

that there's, so, so I can't to have other girls with me who represent not that

and I think I think it's I'm in my client, I'm even at my clients, why you know, for the

image, you know, it's inclusive, it's all the women who are represented. But you're in your body?

Yes, I'm good in my body. Because is what we're what we when we're

when you see, because you're often in bikini because you do you do, you do, you do,

you do, you know, you know, you know, I, you see, I see on Instagram, I'm trying, and I see

I see someone of being who does the good to put a bikini, you understand? Because you have

to be able and in plus you're still inclusive in your way, you're not in trying to prone an

image in particular No, no, I'm sure not, and I'm know what I represent, for the

people who know, to say, okay, we're in saying, like, let's see

that it's that the people are saying, and it's correct, it's in the nature

human, but I want that Nana represent, other other because

I'm in my chums of girls who are not in their car, and I'm

there's never that's never sent to representate and it's for her to be in

that I'm when I'm when I'm saying, I'm saying I'm saying I'm in six months

I'm saying myel I'm going to get to this day I'm not I'm trying myo

jeanbe and I'm I'm really I'm still there in there I'm so that I'm

that's for that I'm that you'll do you're yeah I'm I'm content to feel

that the client, the feet that I'm doing the few people that I'm playing, it's that I'm that's important for me,

really. So, so the regard is important because I want that you know that I agree with an importance

because I want that I'm going to that's the other side, I'm Marina, what I represent like, let's say,

let's say, I'm not the camping, it's the man of the camping, it's the reality, I hate that, I meann't it's impossible.

But there there's perhaps of the people who are saying, well, why, yon, be so very fresh, she pete, she pete, she doesn't, I like the camping. But, okay, you say, I'm afraid, I, I'm not the camping. You understand? That, I'm off.

I'm even not reflect. What's it? What's it? I'm not sure. I've seen new energy to arrive. I don't know

why you'd in this situation, I don't know. I don't have to do other things to do you, I'm trying to do you, I'm going to

give you, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, we're doing, They're coming to Vietnam, they're going

in a camp of refugee, you know, it's been complicated, they're having in a boat, and finally the battle is destroyed a few minutes

after. You know, it's like a miracle that's a family is overvue on voyage. And they said, they've been

they're at Grambe and she said, and she said, her mother, she had an she said, she'd say, we're going

on camping in the end of a week, is she can go you know, when she'd when she'd say,

but I'm said, but I'm, they're, but I'm a house, they're in a tent, they're in a toilet, they're going to, they're

not, they're in a frigo, a poil, they're so they're not, I'm not, I'm in a past. That's that's what I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to say, well, it's true, in the font,

that's done the misery. I don't know, I'm sorry, I don't know. You know, you're in the camp of the mayor of Kim? Absolutely, absolutely. So, so. So, so.

So, so, it's important, because, you know, at code F, you know, I was like, it's like that, it's like, you're discovered, I mean, I adored this concept where the

females don't know their opinion without verny. It's, it's, it's,

it's, but I'm, but I'm like I'm the truth, it's, I'm not when we

exaggerate that not I'm, I'm when you know, when you mean, you know,

there's a nuance to say, what we're having to say, I'm provoking.

I'm there's a, you know, there's a, there's a, there are, there are, there are,

they're not of the same. That I adair more. Because there, I know what is true, what's if I'm

identified to you, but in the whole, it's not that not that. So, so, in the case,

you were not in this provocation that, you were, in the very thing, and it's that there

can't know that it's not, but there also that it's also that they're like,

I'm like, I'm not like I'm like I'm like I'm like, I'm not, I'm not,

but I'm this moment, and I think it's good, it's good, to be in the beau and in the

more and in our quality and our our default. You know, like, to assume all that's,

I think, just the message that we have to have to people, I'm also I'm not the default.

I'm also, I'm also, I'm not that, I'm a little ponier, you know, I'm doing

whatever, but I think there's something that we can't be more connected. Yeah,

but I think also that the universe of podcasts, you're in one, or so a podcast,

apport something of this order that. You know, I regard my girl the more young who is in the

20thens, but it's an universe, she's an universe of podcast, and she, she, she, she, she,

she, it's, it's, it's to create these opinions also. Absolutely. And it's solidify in

certain things, it's a question in other, but it's because it's, it's a very discussion

that's address to different public, obviously, like, like the other medium,

but I think that interesting, but you have really this reputation that, when you're

there, you have the reality. But it's, in fact, I mean I'd like that to be good

to be born to be able to do you know, no, but, you know, but, you know, I mean, ta-toe,

like, ta-toe, like, me to say, yeah, you know, you're just, what you see,

what you get, I'm sorry it's in English, but it's not capable of that you're exactly that,

I'm not able to catch something, even, hey, I'm just a gift a cardo to someone. I'll have to say,

I'll have to say, I'm to get a but I'm going to get a gift. You know, like you're trying to to, I'm an infant,

I'm not able to to be able to to catch his reality. In the regard of the other, Marna, I'm going to come

because you're a dancer professional, we know, she's, I'm going to do you're going to make a conference

at Valdeor there a few few weeks for, it's really interesting, it's really interesting, it's a woman of affairs

who remance of the shoes, it's an activity of finance for pay a camp of dance with Mel Charleau. Ah, well, I... So, so, I'm at the conference that would have to make Mel Charleau

on the springtime and then they announced that to the club of dance because they decided to encourage these groups of young for augment their esteem of their own.

Because, just, in, under other, in dance, we're with the car, but the time, a commenter, you know, there's a lot

that can't to pass and we the esteem to so, the confidence diminue

and I think it's really interesting. I'm curious to you're because by a lot of regard,

is that you have seen some more difficult on you? It's sure that when you're in

this genre that, but like a comedian could say the same like a same time,

I'm I've done I've done I'm doing, and I'm we're trying a blonde that's

not too grand because the chantees is not too grand, I'm sure I'm 5, and 6th, I'm

too great, so, so I'm already my physical, my physical, you know, already I'm too much,

you know, for a same, that's a color of hair, you know, so, so, so, so, rapidly,

there were there, I'll say, commenter liberal by a about, I'm like,

a profile, it comes with, I don't, I know, I think, I'm, I'm, but that's

, but that's , it's great, the, hey, I mean, in my time,

he's, if you had my proof of dance who had 20, you comprehend, 20, and 25 but she was she was in the middle to say all the time,

you're going to have to say no often, you're to say to say yes, but you're saying no often, you have to

have to say, you'll be content, you're going to... There's a sort of acceptance to, you're going to you're not because of that

you've got to you've got to you've got to it's not, it's not great, there's not there's just the feet of five

because the chantees has made four and once. So, you can't be a grand in the rear of her, but that I'm not

because I'm too great. So, my professors my profs have really very much said that

rapidly, yes, you're always a deception to not have had been able to have your audition,

but rapidly, I've tried to disocied my value of the

audition that that's something that's something that we're really young. So,

for me it's never been so confronting than that. After that, I'm privileged

can't because I'm one of my amy who, she had a trouble with her poe,

she had been much more than she was a cause that was not a great small, you understand, because we're in this

time that. You know, where I was an other friend who they'd just the blanche,

because we were in this time that that's just just the black at the TV. So, so

there was that I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm part of a privilege. I'm

I'm part of that, but I've really have been there have been mentors for me, who I'm

really have really It's just like, hey, we're chasteed to be here, to have our car that's working, to be in health, to be able to do you.

You know, that... You've been very entourage. Oh, my God. We've been able to repeat all, all the time. And I said, I'd say, I'm sorry, I'd say that,

young, because I'd say, they dance, if they're not richissim, sometimes they don't, they're not, it's kind of instable, like, later.

So I was I aspired to and I'd and I'd listen to and I'd buy their parole.

So it's possible to pass to through this chelel and a curant like, Mel, I'm

already taught also she had also the choreography when I did the pop and she

had done she had made a routine and she Mel, just it's a woman

that's not a grandeur small that's made to say not made to make reprise

at cause of that that who had had used because of the profile

that other contract like she has danced with Liso, I think I think. With Beyonce also.

She, she she, so she, she's she's kind of combated this affair and she has

a very great be a very great career. So I think that's cool that she should be

she'll be invited. Yes, because she represent just the acceptation, the

work, the perseverance, the positivist, so I think that I really really and it's

like, you know, it's by the example, it's by the words, by the accompaniment

that, because you know, she's there's a lot of there's a regard of the

other. You know, the radio social. And you know, you're kind of much on the social,

and it's, it's like, you, you know, it's not that's not a time, but again

a time I'll say, I'm not again, I'm but I'm maybe, you know,

you could have some you could have because you part of a privilege also. Yeah,

and there's also of the envy that exists. Yes, but I'm really a community for that. But I think

the women feel like I'm not there for me to make in competition with her or me compare with her.

You're there with her. You're a community. I'm a girl's I'm always said. That's a

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Okay. I think that I've got used these good parents. In general, I think that I've got a solid education, I've done there's a lot of things that my parents

have brought to. But my parents are more more free. I'm really a girl, I'm going to talk to the world.

I'm going to get by the little names. You're called MC. Like, just because we have you

got to have sent back on the DM on on Instagram of plenty of stuff. I'm this person who

will be still be in contact with all the world by my presence, a little message

by a little You know, I'm saying, you know, I think that's a lot of people, my parents are more cold, are more analytics, are more interlowe, you know, I think the first time that my parents had said, I'm saying, I'm going to have

25, 27 years. You know, I'm young, there, I had not a parent who me said, good night, I'm sorry, my parents, me say, I'm saying, not, I'm saying. But is, is it for so that you want to be able to be? Yes, it's for you. Because you have an impression that if you'd

not do you know, like, I saw like, I'd like, okay, good journey at the school, and you're like, okay, let's, stop, I'm back at least, I'm like, okay, let's, I'm back at, you know, don't know my parents? It wasn't, it wasn't, it's not like to beck, no, he'd called not, and I'm gonna,

and my sister had arrived quite later, but my friend is also a little more free, a bit more, like, I'm, I'm, like, I'm, I'm, I'm just, you know, to be in the salon, to listen, there, where you're a Chien that's, like, my father, my mother, my friend,

and my brother, and my friend, I'm I'm trying to, I'm trying to, and I'd just, my mom and my mom, who had just, you know, it's a film, Marina, it's going to but, you know, but

even they, they didn't know how they'd say, but I'd say, but I'd say, but I'm sorry, but I'm not, because the people don't , I'm not, you know,

I'm not, I'm... It's not valided in... Gen, but I'm... But I don't know, but I, you know, they know, they'd know, they'd Not a lot of language.

It's that. And I fact, I was the I was the cell who were I'm sorry, I was the cell who would have

to be colled. You have you an impression to be too? Longtime I've had the impression to be too.

And you know, that's the trantene, it's be so, and I think that to be fun also.

Versus I was, I thought I'm, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be retiennue because in a vietnam.

Because by to have to have had some you, and you're, so, so you're

in debordement by rapport to them. Absolutely. Not by rapport to you. Absolutely. And I just your pain, it's my pain.

It's not just the pen and I'm I'm going to be in. I'm going to and I'm going to and I'm not something that's not something that's

intense, it's a lot. There's an animal that. I'm just a pain for this animal that. I'm not like,

an other an other is curio he's more on the road. I'm like I'm probably just wanted to traverse the

and he's it's just going to be sensible. I'm sensible, really. to all that. So I

thought that in my family, I'd d'estowned. I'm really and you know, my father

his parents, my grandparents Basterash, it was more frothed, you know, it's like, it's one of

the first medicine in the first of the little bra, she was to be satis, the cartelry well,

you know, versus me, I'm not that, I'm like, we're like, we're going to be able to

call it, and we're saying, so, so, so, so, my nooye

familial. And you know, my sister, she's in nine after I'm in a year,

my son, my son, she's made nine after. And when she made, I'm made, I'm in a

head, she said, she said, she'll know, she'll have seen, my son, but I call my

sister, I said, I'm at 100 million of every day, it's an adult today, like, she's a

girl, she's, she's a great person, now, hello, my baby, how it's how you're

saying, all the time, all the time, all the time, my sister, and I'm with my chien,

I'm even with my chum, you know, I'm even with my friends, you know, I'm in, you know,

I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, do you, do you, you're inattain of that also

of the other? Maybe, maybe, but today, no, because today I'm able to me,

to give, that I'm able, that I'm making, the way, the way, the way, the way,

I'd They've wanted to be emmy, you know, when I was young. Because, I mean, I said, I want to that person's sent that. So, I want to give it to love to all the world. You know, you want to, you want to, you want to be it, yeah. Is that you're talking to that with your parents?

Is that I've been talking? No. No, but it's because I'm saying, to what, you know, mom and papa are different to me, and their fashion of emir is just different. And today, you know, it's, it's wrong, my parents they're going to they're going to

they're more emotive they're going to have more more than more more than you know, they're there's people

when they're responsible they are like in charge and there it's not the time to have there's actually it's like

it's like it's like and there and then the more approach you I mean I mean

it's not that it's not that's not that's not you know but you see you're you're probably

that you're I think it's It's a ramolid, you know, it's more sensitive, more in the sensuality, but in the sensuality, I don't know, in the intimacy. But, you know, the sense, exprimed, what we'll sense, demontry, touch,

you know, my father, it's that, he's saying, I'm, I'm not, I'd say, I'm even, he's, you know, there's the marriage of my friar, this autumn, and, you know, my mother and my father had marched with my brother,

you know, and I saw my father the marriage, I came to come to, he was trying to march with him, My father, he pleur, and I'm like, but I'm like, I don't know, I know, I know, but her blonde, what I said,

it's, yeah, yeah, he's adducy, your father in veilsant, you know, and I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, because I'm like, I'm like,

it's not, okay, it's not, okay, it's not, they're like, my father, it's more like, my mother, you know,

is a more tactile, colloise than, you know, my mom, she, she, she'll, hello, my face, how it's,

oh, my God, my mom, She said, I'm saying, wow. But that's, I'll say, I'll say, a maximum of 10 years that's the same. I was, I was, I'm going to be. So, she didn't know that when you were young? No.

So, that also, it's a lot of course of your parents, you know, he's not in the compliment, he didn't know in the demonstration. You know, it's like, it's what, your note, you know, perfect, it's good, continue like that, it's a good job. But, you know, it's,

it's, bravo, your spectacle, you've been made of that. But it's, it's froy, right, It's crazy, it's what, being parents? Yeah, I mean. See, I'm, I'm saying, for your parents, sure, they've done, you're sure, they're doing, but, you know, they're doing, but, you know,

when you're saying, when you're saying, oh, my God, I didn't know, I'm saying, oh, my God, I didn't care, but it's all, you know, it's all right, you know, they're not the same, you know, exactly, and, my friend, you know, he's not, you know, it's a man of difference, I mean, I've been a lot of difference, I mean, I've lived a lot of ensemble, but for him,

it was not that. And what's that has changed in your life, to say, well,

it's not because he didn't know, this grand a great need of that you have perhaps

you're not because you're demonstrative so you're so you're so you're to think, you're talking

to be like you know, demonstrative. Absolutely. I think what's that what it has created,

is that that, in my adolescence and young adult, I had not confidence

in me, I'm estimed not, really, really, not. So, I've had

been in the guys that's not necessarily good for me, and I'm because I

know, I'm not, I'm saying, it's me a problem, it's me that's

it's me who is, it's all the time, I was, it's always the other it's all

in me the problem. It's all that I'm saying you're doing it too? You're on

today, I'm making so, I'm you're like, I'm a giver, I'm it's a

party of that, but today, it's conscious versus before it's not conscious, and I had a pair who'd

and I had fear that me abandon, and I had fear to me to be alone. I was in

that I'm in the abandon, so I think that I felt that I didn't necessarily amed by my parents,

when, as I, like I, I'm, there's a good parents who are, it's my perception, and it's because

me, I'd wanted to be able to be Ame, of this way that that for us it was not

something that they'd be able to see. So it's the fact that I know that I didn't know in my

debut 20th I had do the Miser with me. Have you any of what you have

accepted? Well, I know, I mean, I could not have any I can't have some time that

it's what I have been to live but I think it's easy to say to say, it's easy to

I'd say, but, you know, as a age of 15 years, I'd have put to say to my parents, hey, I, I'd have needed to be able to tell a time. I'd like that, one time, you'd say, you'd have been to, hey, yeah, my girl, she has been a bit estranged for me, but I'll try to you'd say to you'd say, I'd say, one of times, to say, I'm sorry

of her, that, that's a luminous, that, you know, this sort of moe, or to do you, have a call? But, you know, I'm, you know, I'm there, there's many people who have occupied your seat here, and And sometimes it's a

carance a life. You know, the first inveter we've got used is Lauren

Parkin to open your job and he he'd he'd be able there,

his father was on the lid of he said that's the last that's the last time

he said I'd never said I'm I'm and he's never out of the

he's never been able to it he's you know you you can't it's

finished after the person is deced but why he's not so you

understand it's a it's a lot of people it's sure that at 15 you can't you can't

you can't get back that you're that's so that's a that you're at the research of an

love concrete you know you want you know you want to you know that you know

that you don't know that you're not that's not that's not because it's a latet

with a car no it's more than that it's it's more that

and And I'm just, I'm also that's the same also that I don't of love, you know, I touch I'm talking, I'll, I'm saying these words, I'm present, I'm really I'm, I'm a actor of chalear and I'm a lot, and I'm

ever made to be afraid of people in because of that, you know, in the sense that's okay, it's okay, it's not capable to do that? I don't think not that it's fair, but I don't

that everyone is capable to give, like I'm able to give, like, I'm able to and I'm able to accept that, I'm going to be the same, I'll have done all the time,

I'll accept, but, you know, I think that there's kind of, there's kind of the idea to be with a person that's always

to give, you know, you've got to have a reciprocity there's in there. It's just, I'm probably not there. You know,

but I'm, but I'm, but I, but I, today, my father did I'm, I'm, not all the time.

But you're you know that, but you know, that. You know, You're relatively young, you know, you know, you're 34 and that your parents, you know, they've made a grand bit of chomain.

Yeah, yeah. Is that you have an impression that it's, you know, in the relationship? Well, I think, in fact, they do have to feel that because he's offered that,

that I'm more open and present to, because, you know, like I said, my debut 20thene was more difficult, and even with my parents, I'm both

more distant. My parents they were separated when I had 19 years I was in apartment, and there's like

the family that's like, it's like my brother was with my father, and my son, I'm just

all the same on the dynamic, that's that's so, and I've got not wanted that's to be able to

my part of, so I'm like, I don't know my parents, why they're like I'm

fashed, and I'm the most emotive, it's me that's more the soul, you're all,

just all, all, So, so I had a lot of incomprehension. I was very facie. And I was like, my parents, they'd say, they're not, I'm going to be able to you know, I'm going to be able to this.

So, I know that in family, it's me, the call, and to all the current. Because it's, hey, it's the fact of a tell we have to be thinking. Today, at age we're, it's more, and all the world

is pretty, and all right, I know, I know if it's grace to me, if we're seeing, so I'm just, like, I'm just, like, retry of that a bit.

And I've used like some years where really I'm talking more to my dad, really more

to my my mother. I see not what the declick that you have had been, maybe the

time, sometimes the time arranging the things, and at a moment, I'm making to get to

my parents, and I made up, because they don't know because they don't know because they're not

because they're not because you have a communication, eh, and it's not they're not they're not

that, and I'm it's not that, so I'm Now, now, I'm I call my dad, my

man, all the time, I'm in when I'm in car, I'm in car, I'm in car, like, every time I'm

going to be able to my grandmair. I'm in a car, I'm going to, you know, I'm sorry, my son,

my son, my father, let's go, and who will be, and we'll be talking, and we're

going to be my child. Yeah. And I'm, and I'm, they're quite, they're doing, I'm saying,

thank you, I'm asking, you know, he's, he's, me say these things that.

So I feel that they doves feel like I'm going to they're like they're

like I'm like that like they're like they're not long. The divorce of your

parents in 19 I want to talk because it's I'm to cross

people that their parents are divorced just they're they're young

adult and he me said often we don't we neglige

the impact because you do it's like the end of certain rituals.

There's, there's kind of there's kind of something to pass to the time. What's what you've found

difficult at at this time? My parents had long time that they had long time that's long time that

I had not a model of a couple of my who's I have not that I'm I'm really,

I'm in I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm trying to see my mom and I'm know if it's so it's

so it's so it's so it's so it's so so, so, So, from one

I said, well, well, then he's past, it's a past, it's not,

it's so, so that I'm not, I'm know, but on the other

other side, I'm the people, my parents, for the family, for the

parents, that when they were that, it was, it was, me, myself and I.

I, I'm the impression that my mother, had had six affairs for her,

that my father, he had made, and we we've all, we're all

we all, copped. My son, my son of the day or the time,

she's to be in New York West, she's at the west with my mother,

she's, she's, she's in a part, she's in a day of the day of the day, she's

like, my son, my son my son, my son, my son, at four of the night,

at four hours of morning, you know, what's what, you're all, you're not trying to try to explain

that an old, and and then, but, my mom, my mom, can't be not

not she said, well, just to travel more. Yeah, it's not really the same. My son, in panic, the day, the day, the day, it's been long, like,

she, she, she, she, she'd be able to, and I'd be able to be a house at the other, there's a quarter, and in the same

cartier that we had before, you know, not all the but I think they've done for that tuffle the full the

long time possible. The elastique has latched, oh, my God, but he has latched. And after that, it's been really

long, My parents accept to be talking or to be in presence one of the other. So, let's talk there are,

there's a remise of diplom a spectacle of dance, when is the mom is there for not that we're not

we're going to get that. That's a great gesture, that's ordinary. It's ordinary. I've really found that poach

but I'm that's really really bad to finish my parents. I understand that's very, very,

very different, and I know the quality and the default of my parents, and I can to understand where is

to each bar it's a blocker. I'll understand. So, I'd like who'd say, hey,

the instant of an an instant of an an , the instant of, we'll be a face and we'll be there.

And at least we're all and we're all to be there, but we're all to get that. But they

they could not. It was it was too for them. So, that I've tried that it's probably

a year, a year and maybe, perhaps, that they accept to be, Oh, it's recent, recent? Recent,

he's said to be at at the same place. He accepts all now. Yeah, and I'll see, I'm going to be

about my mother, my mother will be there going to be able to do you know, there's a marriage of my brother, the blonde of my

pair, it's, oh, well, there, we're doing a for your for your like,

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's not, it's not, you know, but there, but there's,

there, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, because, my sister, she has a

child, maybe a day I've been to have, it's not right that we're going to do you know, it's not really, we're going to

like, you know, we're just to be able to and be able to like a family uny during two seconds?

So, so I've found that tough. And if there there are some people who are in this situation that,

of divorce and who have my own my sole grand advice, is you, it's you

the parent, it's to be the bigger man. And even if it's not don't not, and it's

to talk to talk to this person that for the good to your own for the good,

you're not obligate, if you're going to see a lot of your show, even if they're

not sitting on the parents, not to be not to be not, but it's sometimes,

he could be there, but he could be there, and I'm there, I'm there,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, just like, hey,

fact, in the in the full, you support, you support, you You're in trying to compensate for...

Yeah, but that's mom and there, Papa and Steph, we're all the time in that. So, I think that's all, I've found this tough. I've found that tough. But in the same time, I don't know all the history of my parents. So I'm not going to have a judgment, but to be...

No, but to be able to be able to be echo at some of us today. And, you know, sometimes, to think, de feree to that. Yeah, we know, like, as, you know, we're doing this, but we realize not that that we feel that we've got to do the pain

to our children. It's not It's not It's not even And especially When you know Like that Your daughter

You're pretty But you're You're more The impression That's other But no It's like Yeah, it's

I'm more My parents You know, But just like A quality of presence That's just that Hey, alo It's a bit

Spectac Hey, Marka It's good In some Yeah And, hey Maxime Hey, we're

We're just so Let's talk A little discussion Or at least You know Yeah, it's It's not you're Nob't you

like just let's let's be there's not there's not and there's not there's not I'm going to

it's like she that's not that's not tension yeah what's not what's what I'm

what I'm what I'm okay, what is your complex? You don't have perhaps you're not

no, no I'm not it's really I'm going to get to the podcast all people say you

and we're talking about I'm talking but I'm trying to I'm saying my complex I'm really

my complex I've been I've been my complex so so today it's not that I'm not

a complex but it's like I'm not not much attention to that in the sense of okay

let's my impatience will make that I'm I'm I'm trying like a tonnebrick

I I'm not I'm not I'm I'm like I'd have to make

some Is that, you remark in the regard of the other? When they receive your impulsivity, your patience?

Yeah. I'm remark, and, you know, that long time, I'm saying, why I'm not just a girl who's and there's never

a problem with a and that. You know, I'm not a problem. And I'm not their glist to see, I'd like that,

I'm not that. And so, long time, I'm combated. Today, I see that it's my bit, so,

so, when I'm going to look in the regard, what I've been to say, it's like, Entry red,

then all right, I know it's red, what I mean to say, hey, I see that's going to say that I'm not saying really just to say that but I'd have

better choose my words. You know, all right and then I'm reprint, and there's a but when you're

impatient? Because, you know, the color, there's an aspect physical also that's like it's like the cello block

the... But no, so it's just it's, you have been impulsive can't it's just, why,

why to bring two minutes to say something that's He'll take three words. Motel to three words, piff, pap, poof,

you understand you? But after that, like, even I'm sure I'm not to say it's not to say, do it, so, do it don't,

not the same to the other. So, so today I'm meyer. And you go in the context of the

work, I think, excellent. You know, I'm going to the, you know, I think that they seem valided,

she feel like, when they find a gaffe, I'm not, I'm not in this kind of reaction that of the

, you know, well, you'd have to know. I'm not in that, but in it's more in my relations personal, like, in my couple, with my mother, with my sister, with my friend,

there's, I'm going to be... In your couple, how it's how it happens? You know, when it when it happens, it's generis to the conflict? Well, the fact that Lou is kind of susceptible, I'm going to

say, yes. And I said, I've had an other copan with who I had been six years who, he was more, I'd say, relax. And he, all, all the way, all he'd say, you know, do you just to me just to me say that, for real,

you know, and he was like, yeah, it's not a lot of sense. It's not that I'd say, in the phone. So, he glissed to you, so it was more simple, this vol, I'll say. Now, it's sure that

Lou, who is more susceptible, and that he's also he's capable to respond, sometimes I'm like, who, what's he just in a second? Yeah,

I'm like, what's going to be going to be supposed, okay, we're going to see, okay, we're repensate, what we've been to to be able to

attack you, you're not to be in a mode defensive, all what I said was that, I wanted to be in that, I think you're perce

like that. There's a situation, I was going to get to be able to this, but that's long time,

I'm going to get to be patient, why I'm not able to be dull, and that I'm too, and it's really

to have really working long time and he said, more you're going to be in a combat with that to the

more, it's a day. A day I'd interview to someone that I'd never been because it's

in a context It was private this interview but it's a she said she said that she had been

often she'd with her she'd be able to she and she she'd and she'd sometimes she'd

some of there'd be not a bad and I'm she'd say if you're you're full or well

well well I'm I'm away I'm away I'm going to I'm here calm to time there

and she she'd say she'd and her she'd say her and her she'd she'd be

with her at she And she said, well, I've done, you know, it's it's happened to see, it's going to be able to see,

right, she's what he has? She said, we have the same chandel. In the sense, we're in the same team.

We've got the same and she's, she's, we're in the same team. Why, you know, we're talking to we're at the same

we're in so, so you can't you can't, and when she said, when she said, she said,

when she had done this interview that's it's, it made to think it to be in to be in a

little bit of a lot of that we're in that way, we're not, you know, that's a lot, because I'm

always, I'm doing it on the key, we're doing, we're trying, we're not against you, I'm going to

I'm going to I'm doing, because I'm saying, he'll say, he'll receive, because he's

maybe I'm too delicate I, I'm able to be able to be susceptible, and then I'm like, and then we're

all right, he's like, he me rattack And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, that's my apprenticeship. It's to learn as, he's a lot of him to know, to know, and you to know it. Exactly.

And then I said, no, no, no, I don't. I don't know if you're not going to be in a defensive, I want to attack. I'm trying to, it's because it's not that I'm mean, it's just that I go right to view. No, but you have not to detot. You have not to stabilizing,

on the coup, someone who gets, that's a word who comes, without detour, it's on detot. You understand? You know, it's so, it's so, exactly. But it's not... It's not We're

Like... It's not Meshaine. It's not not with an intention and I'm here I'm not you're not

Which is something You know, you're not You're bad It's not about anytime It's not with an intention Yeah It's all the difference

Yeah You know, there's people There's people Who have some They have some These intentions, which have a strategy

Yeah You know You've got That pretty And after that after that, you But why I'm Because I'm issue

But there's There are There, you have relationship of couple difficult, you know, but that's

not that it's spontaneous exactly, exactly, and I think not, and I'm I think

that I think I've had unsteed to mechanceety in me. You know, but I'm sure,

it's not that you're not able to be plainly like you have an impression that you're

at an question, it's that it's all I'm trying to excuse all the person,

I'm trying something that I'm not maybe maybe it's perhaps it's it's But I'm sure that the life, Marina, you know, the

life, the view, the life, you know, I mean, but this essence that you'll perforer never, you know, it's just that when we're connected, now, it's puissant, you know, when we're to connect to this dousseur, but it's because you're a guerrire

in the meantime, you know. I know, I see, but it's so, I'd like that that people say, oh, Marina, are so much. What do you say, what do you think? It's real, because I've posed this question that,

to some and I said I'm saying that I'm forced, I'm not barred, I'm doing a project

after the other that I'm present for my amy, that I'm true, that I'm authentic,

but you know, there's not this dousse. There's person that's so there's a person who's full of energy

you're like the beautiful and the more and the most at what you're dous? I think my

my meres friends would really to be really to be in

fact, she's I'm quite quite in tonne when I'm in my relations

interpersonal she says that I'm a great patience and that I'm a like a

house that you want to I'm that you're comfortable comfortable I'm

comfortable that's that sort because the because the ducor because it

can't something something something that's something because it's profound the dousseur

it's not what we're going to see someone someone who's someone who is by example, we'll say, by example, we're going to say, she's

because she'll know if she's she'll say, but I'm I'm, I'm what you do, you understand, it's because

it's his attitude, her proposal, but is she she's she is dous like at the interior? She's not

maybe if if someone says, but you're doing, but I'm don't know, I'm not, you know,

you understand? The dousseur, I think she's kind of... I think she's kind of... But I mean, she'll say, we're attribue the ducre... When I'm sorry, Nicole Bordolo, when we talk to her, the people, we're saying,

oh, but she, she's... It's always... It's a... You know, she's part of my Marie Club, my espouse, you know, Nicole, I'd say, it's an actor, I'd say, it's an actor,

exceptional, but I think, because, okay, I'm, I'm also very douse at an interior, but it's not to do what's out when the people will talk to me

never. Well, it's because I'm a a guerrier, you understand, so it's it's like, it's like to do it would say, we'd say, we're

always, you know, like, we're always, you know, like, you know, I'm, you know, we're, we're like

in the philosophy, the Buddhist, Zen, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, when I, went to Japan we were pasted

and I was just in the time, and I'm reconnected to that, but it's all the time, It's just that I think it's a

melange. It's like the doceur it's a melange with the, you know, the color it's out of

out of course. Yeah. But the dousseur, it's... Appet, it's... It's like

the joy. It's, it's some that's the stuff, it's not be joyous, it's ported like a,

a filter in the life where you go, you will be not the things, you'll

not, you'll be, you will see what, you go, what, you're not trying to,

the People could say that of me. That's all the time of mine. That you put it to the joy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm up every morning. I mean, I'm saying, my God, I'm in the same.

The people who I like I'm even. I see if you want to plus. But the people who know what you can't. But all the way, all the thing, it's puttie by that you have to have to have to be good, to be there for the other,

so that is related to the doceur, but... I didn't have been to mind. I like that. Thank you. It's not what you do you mean. The deuceer, it's so. It's profound, the deuce.

It's a essence. You know, you said in commencing, you're going to you're always a temperament impatient,

but you're going to be there. Yeah, and I see, my mother, and I'm saying, my sister, you know,

and I'm like Joanne, that's my wife, Joanne, and she's like, she's like, yeah,

she's like, yeah, I'm, she's not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, she's not, she's not,

she's not, she's, like, she's, but I'm not, she said, like, to bring so, to bring

the care of the people. But in the same time, there's a little that, that's it doesn't know that's not, you know, it doesn't say that it's not

a little, no, that's not, that, okay? I'm, when I'm in a magazine to be,

you know, you know, you know, then you know, in two times, then I'm sorry, then I'm

naise you. Well, there's so, I'm like, okay, well, you're not like,

so, you know, where you're to, where you're to get, I'm, you can't

get to the demo, I think, I think I think it's, I don't I think it's, I don't know, because I'm like, I don't know, because I'm like, I'm asking me explain to what? And it's weird, this impatience that

because it's not in all the spheres of our lives. You know, there's people who are saying, hey, you're going to say, hey, you're going to say, hey, the caseire and the lank, I, that, it's a matter part of time. I'm saying, it's perhaps

it's a time that it's probably, the time that will finder the time that to find my little sack, you know, I'm, well, patient. And there's other things, that it will take three

second like the center of the center for example I'm not very fier I'm impatient

but I'm impatient but I'm saying that Mr. I'm sorry I'm I'm impatient I'm sorry

and I'm that I'm that I'm that the last last I'm this question because now you're

me respond all to save to my question but I'm I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying

at the point you're saying I'm sorry to I'm sorry You see, it's always enrogetary. So, so I mean,

sometimes it's an registered, so I'd just say that presentment, it's not not quite

yeah, I'm sorry, and then the person who you're talking, well, because it's all the time

saying, it's all right to say, so I'm to say, I'm just you're just you're just

you're just and I'm sorry, and I'm here, I'm I'll repeat, and then, I'm, and it's sure

that I'm full the other person, but no, no, it's not you, I'm not you, I'm talking, it's a, I

know who Who's, I'm saying, who I'm saying, who I'm saying, it's like, it's all over a lot of time

sometimes on time, I know, I'm in a lot of job, because I know they're saying, and I'm talking, and I'm

talking, and I don't know, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm doing with the people who are there, because

often the people who are, there, there, there's a company ultra efficient, there's there, but,

see, but, see, when I'm doing, when I'm you, have you, have you,

After, I'm going to say, hey, I I just want to say, service impeccable, dite it to your patron if you've got to you're going to make an augmentation, thank you.

Like, yeah, I'm saying, you know, I'm sorry. I'm talking about with a representant to see, you're like, you know, there's like, I was like,

you said, hey, you've done, it's extraordinary, she's like, it's exceptional. Yeah, but she's not great thing, but she had done

something. She was all right when you're talking. She's all right. She's heard of me, she's right. I've heard of my, I'm sorry.

level Ruge. You Mondeau please, Marna. Oh, yeah, the service,

the client. It's not not not even for the person because they have the they don't have

they don't they can't not the language not no. I'm going to do you have to be

a little parenthes service at the clientele before we don't know in the

once in my life I've made the service to the clientel for Nanna the brand

because my my fee of service client is in conged and at the

we're in the time we were, we're going to more than person. And when Ariane, of my service, client, is revenue, she has been in charge the dossier, we'll call it, we'll call it

Regent, like my grandmire, she has been in charge the dossier, and he has readled that as full, and the person has responded,

thank you, by couriel, I've had been a service impeccable with you, Ariane, I'd say that the other person

to who I had already before, me left really really to if it had been to you, I'd be

not revenued to the company, but it's me the other person in the other person of the other person

of the service client, not good. DeGlas. And it's that because of my impatience and I'm like,

you know, sometimes there are many of sense but sometimes I'm saying, now the lady, it's sure it's a prank.

What's she has that's not to do a answer? It's sure that she has not a lot of the question

that I'm that I'm that's not me that's not my task to date. Oh, yeah, it's a point

to make sense incredible, the service client, that in the people who are. Yeah, bravo. In the service, client.

A chance who are there. A chance that are there's a chance who are there. Yeah, because there are many of the efficace. Now, we're talking to some that they're a bit

more complex. At what? Niveaurooge. At what the reason, profound, Lou, respond they? You know,

Lou Pascal? Loup, Al-Q, okay, perfect. What, period of your life was the most improuped,

and what should be subprimed? Ooh, it's tough, that, I think I'm I'm thinking

Yeah Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not a good invite I, I'm trying to try to time, there, yeah, there, the stationment, he firm not,

there's, there, there, there's not an issue by that it's your open your open your is a

a suburb that I'd like I'm should be able to I think not not

going to respond to that um what period of your life

was the most improuvent which period of your life was the

most the It's because we're going to read I'm saying the same thing, my young 20thens In your own 20th, is that amorously, is that you've

lived with you've lived more difficult? Is that you've made some of the choice that you'd not necessarily? Well, it's like my young

20thens, I've found this difficult because it's like a series of events, you know, but I had 19 when my parents were separated.

So, like, it's the day or the day and I'm going to live in an apartment when I wanted to I would like to live in an apartment. When I was thinking to be in my parents

at a vitam interna. Okay, I'm okay, I'm trying you're really in an apartment suite to yeah, exactly. Exactly.

So, like, I'm a, okay, I'm an adult, you have to have a apartment with my colloak. You have to

have I go to get a pharmacy, buy the paper of toilet, even if I'm in an examiner at an university. You know,

that, that, this sort of that, there's not person that's not person that's not person who's that's an

adaptation, it's an adaptation, and then 19-year-old, I thought that I'd not ready. I'd not ready to

that. And to not talk about to be able to my parents following that also, you know,

there was between us, I'd say, between us, to be to be in my father, you know,

it's, it's tough, and I was separated to my little chum that I had from 21, 22 years,

and I was been in relation with a guy who had not smat-smat, I'd say like that, manipulator,

not very good for my esteem so it's like I'll say I'm trying to I'm going to see I'm going to because I'm saying

that I had a problem with me but it was fundamentally I'm saying I'm a problem I'm a problem on two pat Is that

that's that that's got that's in your don't I think yeah I think yes

in some I'm in when you're in love or when you're in when you're in a relationship the psychologist

says that it's like it's like your infant interior who resour

to be you know, how you to be you know, it's like your child with your

and it's like these things that's not regular that and I'm that I had a love.

And there I was with someone that I'm a little indisponable a a little

cachote a a little manipulator so I so I'm so I'm all the time

that I couldn't after that and this person and I know that's you

that's you that's you don't know it's you It's you. So it's like amplified that kind of

insecurity that's a mark that I have but I'm so much that I'm I go to go to

plenty of my feet in a june 20th and when I've got an little insecurity

like I seep all right I'm the pain for her and I mean that I

want to be a protectress of her even if I know not I'm

so it so I'm so much it's it's I'm during a good

moment to not know my value, to be able to be a different but to

adaptate, to suradapted to adaptate to your own, you'd be able what the other wanted to be. It's so

and I'm trying to get to because I was having a problem because I was not correct because so that I was

that I was that I was really, I had a mal-a-ed profound with me but I let's not and in this

relation that is you're that you're who is you didn't be because I'm not able to keep people

because I'm not the part of the abandon it's so Also, so I'd rest in some of the things that were negative. That, I learned

later, that when it's more for me, you have to have you, it's a few years. But it's long. So,

so, it's difficult to explain, but, you know, I remember that I'd in the mirror, and the, the,

the things I had were, it was all the negative, to me, my, she's really, and that,

today, today, today, and I'm, I thought, I'd be little , I'm not, I'm trying,

who's, like, who's who's, who's, who's, It's, it's... All right. All right.

And I remember that I had like this kind of of presence that all went, I was doing I was there, no problem,

no problem, but at the but I'm remember that I was not able to not able to do anything because when you

do you make to think to make up to say, so I'm like I'm going to I'm going to just have seen

to be able to see, you know, because you you were congested like at the interior. Yeah. And, you know, I think that's a melting pot

of, you know, yeah, the dance that comes with performy, you know, and I was, it was performing in my notes, performed in the spectacle,

performed in the society of today, in the beauty. So, you know, like, you, like, like, the intelligence,

the beauty, the talent, there had all that, like, so, so I was, so, so I'm,

go, go, go, You know, it's able to show you're capable. And then it's a long time has been habited this sentiment that of, I'm a woman I'm not going to person, I'm capable of tout

because it's like a, it's like a becky. But I thought I'd be able to do that. But at 19, you're to be able to do that also. Yes, I mean,

at 19th, you're found abandoned, and, and alone your criteria and, and you said. Yeah, exactly.

And you just to say that you were already too young for that. It's that. But, you know,

sometimes I think to say, hey, the world who abit I'm going to say, I'm going to

say, he's parted at this age that in Montreal, it's a adult, but he's prepared.

It's so. Versus, me, it's not the same reason. No. You know,

you've also something that was you know, because you have always to say, you've always

to say, to not a girl of 34 and you pass a girl to turn with this young

that's 19 years, who per se re-re, who has like an abandon familial, but you know, it's an abandon

for you, of the exterior, it's not an abandon but you know, but you know, it's that, you know,

it's that, it's that, it's that's important when we, you know, when you know, when you know, to not be

to be a story, exactly, you, to not say, oh, well, it's not really that, it's really

that's really that you've been in your context, you're talking that someone, he was, I'm saying, no,

I'm really , I'm really has really lived in two years. He has

a reason also. Yes. But it's two stories different. It's

that. And I think that's the divorce, to me to be alone, to be

the relationship, to be different, the performance to be good notes, to have the show,

to be chosen, to be so, I think, you lived like two affairs?

It's so. You know, you've made the gross show? It's been what,

by example, the the most out professionally. Well, there's two

things. Dance for Marimé in the St. when you're talking about 25,000

people cry, you know, you know, you know, they're not to see to see,

but the, but the, just before that you get to the scene, it's something. A sound

belle, it's really something. And Mary had a fun, because it's a bit of

a bed of scene. So, you know, you could give all you had all, you

like, it was, like, it's hot, like, danceed for all the tinted very

Marie, at the same time hot, and the way I'm the first of the film

Step Up 5 he turned it's in Vancouver and then the gross of our scenes are in the

deleted scenes are even not in the film at the final you know but you but we're

not even but we're kind of two month to in Vancouver to turn with like Paris

Gobel who is like the choreograph of Rihanna Justin Bieber all this like these people

were around us the choreograph of Madonna he had with us. So, to be able to

say, okay, I'm on a production American, film, it's not a place, it's a lot

that's I'm hot, it's like, I'm all all the time to see, it's like a little checklist,

you know, so it's that, you know, yeah, so I, so I, so I, so I was,

I felt like, I'm sure, I felt like, it was fun, I, shant that's all good, but I'm,

but I'm, my, my esteem to me, to me, I'm, because I, I'm,

I shaned not that I'd that I'd feel like I'm always that I'm all the time problematic and then

because I know I'm in the situations I'm able to react more more young that's true what I'm

what I'm yeah but when you're not you're not you're saying you're saying and I'm saying and I'm

why you're but why you're fashed for that why you're not made not the people around me

don't know why I'm because I'm because I was because I was a manke and I'm know

not. But it's that, but I know that's it's a because I'm affected because I'm

talking about the young women who are a little bit a profile like the mind of their young 20th

and I'm just going to say come to call me to tell you me to say you know, because I'd have

wanted to have this kind of great-sher that that for me but in the same

I'm not not people that I'm didn't know I'm not I'm sure you And when you're When you've met

Lou Pascal, what's that has changed? Lou, it's a role because we're we know for quite long time

when I was when I was doing F, he said yeah, so we'd crossed all the time in the launchment

of programmation and other and Loo he had encountered a day where I was tanned

I'm at bed, you know, we're all we're all we're all all right we're all

so the joke is all your window you know, your little your little the window, and you're gross of the same,

and you're going to be in the same, but you're not the right, you know, I'm at a bout

bad red. And we're I think it's just for ado, a gala for the young, and the night, and the

night, he said, me seem, confit, and I've, I've responded like, ha, ha,

or I don't see, in the case, if a day, if you'd say, I'm going to get in a date, you, something like that,

you're just like, I'm just said, like, oh, I'm celbate for a few months I don't know I don't know how I said

something like that I said perfect on Wednesday I came to search 19 hour it's what you I'm saying oh I've got to

you know I'm really blaze it I've been too plain I'm at the bed at butt of my red at both of my red

I'm in the time I've got to all the time I'm like oh pire it's like it's like I'm going to pass a few hours

I'll say hey my beau gason I quit you have anything to pay I didn't have anything. But, you know, the few,

you know, they're going to me come to get, he's going to be and a t-shirt, black and a jeans, and a tux at the head. You know, like, no, no, no.

No, no, no. And, and, but, and yet, I've passed a superbe show with Lou, really, and,

and, to that, he's made our history, you know, and Lou, it's a guy, of a project like me. So,

so, so, we're in trying to look at least you know, we're in we're in these kind of project, we like that,

we're carbure to that, and we're like I'm trying by the past the relations that I've had never been

this kind of of an equilibrium that to to want to be to be different it's not the

same temperament and I think that's fun this kind of of the kind of

want to do something and to start a project and to be grandire

the yeah Yeah, I like that of Loo I think it's a a big force

and it's because you want to do the time that's all the other that's all the other, if you're always if you're always

all over the other you're all right you're like calm to find so to find that's kind of the fun and you're

you're you're able when you're realise your project Yeah, yeah yeah and Loo

it's someone who is he's super charming he's really you know you you've passed a time with him you know

everybody who goes to say the whole you he's the fun, he's aggrable to be with him. The running gag is that at each

every time I do a party to find a party to fight at my and then it's the fight at Loo

because the Loo you know he's he's in part of the fight and he has put on a other

coche on you know you're this person he's light, he's chaleure the

people want to turn around he will say he will do d'niser he will

dance he will he will have a round of shot he's he's like he's a

he's at 100% and this beautiful charism that he's that's a be able to who goes to say that to Loo, there's not

person who will pass a bad moment with Loo. And what's what's, what's, what I'm doing, what's he,

what's he, what's, what's, with, by a part to that, by a part to you,

I'm like, I'm, I'm like, I'm, it's, I'm, I'm feeling and I'm, I think so,

I'm the fun to be in his presence, when he's, when he's , to his full potential.

You know, it's, you know, it's like on his X when he's like the showman,

I'm going to say, and to he respond? At what the reason profound? Loo,

it's a big question. A bell question. I think Loo respond to the need to

the need not to Loo, never. In other some, you know, if you're someone who,

with the time, I'm going to learn that in the phone, he's not

or that he's he's created these little message in secret or, you see, the Loo,

he's, he, he, he, he, he's not secret. I'm not

no doubt on Loo. And that that's appeasant, you know, to be this security

that. And is you can you put to be too? Full. Really,

really, but in our couple, it's me too, I'm too, and I'm

a packet of Nair, it's the inverse in our couple. I'm more I'm

more, I'm able to to say the things in a fashion direct sometimes,

effectively. But I've actually to know how to it's a question, and I'm going to do you

say, okay, I get some to do you get to be able, there's a little bit of a little bit of to be able to

to get to that for that you're over? Okay, well, it's a more, it's a perfect, we're

we're doing a rendezvous, then we've been I think with Loo I'm I'm sorry, I'm sure,

I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, that I'm just that. Really, really, really,

you're completely yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's, that's beautiful when it's

in my life. You know, sometimes it's a quayde of a life, and the time that's there, the time

that it's true, the time that you live that we live that to know, to know, to know,

that's, you have an impression to have your full potential amourous with him? Well,

I'm the impression to be grounded in who I see, I'm the impression

that before in my relations, I would to like I would like to me adapt to a lot. And it's

perhaps also of the fact that's the fact that's what is what is what is important for me? How do you

want to be feeling in relation? What are my I'm going to I'm going to say?

So, I'd like that in my couple that so that's important for me. I'm really

be more vocal and concrete at the the way that before we'd like the

people were that's that's to be dissu, because they're not well, they don't know. Now, I'm like, Lou, is all all the current,

he's not question. What are the attend to Marine? What's she like, what's she's not, he is all

current, like, I'm, like, I'm just vocalized? He's, is he vocalized? MOY, more tough for

him, but yeah, because all you part to go out of that, you're working, you to arrive, to arrive,

to express, to get, to express, to the yeah, yeah. Nive Ros and company,

you will me I'll give three, if you'll try, if you're going to choose one. We'll answer one. That's the question that's a mistress. I'm a little prude

this stuff. You're a prude? Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, but they're d'clock, the questions here.

Okay. What is your rapport with the nudity? Okay. Okay. What place do you

to get to an intimacy emotional in your relationship in your is kind of do? And prefer

you seduing or to to be seduire? Oh, we are that, it's not the

piage, that. Hey, the first you've turned, and it's appeared in

my head, my rapport with the idea. Yeah. It's

really, I mean to the dance, so, so I, to me change in a coulis

with a cab, a bobbett, let's go, quick change, we have time, we're to reembarked

to the second, to be able my car, I've always I've always I've always You know, it's not like,

I'd say, the people I associate the nudity with, oh, it's intimate, oh, she'd have not to be doing this, oh, he'd have been to be able to

to be able to show their decolte. There's a that that I can't, but I'm, I'm more, my car is my little

vessel. It's my vessel that my name to the end of my life to the end of my life. I want to

have to be something something of super intimate with my car? Not really. In the sense where

all my my friends my have seen I've seen I'm just a 100% or maybe

in the but I'm like I'm like I'm like a child of a child like it's like

it's like in the sense I associate not that like it's intimate it's not something that it's not

yeah I'm yeah I'm no no and I'm and I'm remember the

first with Lou Lou who is the nudity for it's a lot of my marriage

Ariane who is also my stilist, at a moment, he had at home, to me to make to make

try to be I'm going to do you, and there's a little bit more he's a little and he's not, but I'm

doing it's a woman, she's like, she's like, she's already and he's she's the same okay,

and I'm and I'm there's just it's just you know, is, is that all my my chums of

my fes, my fes, my fess, my sister, and my friend also with who I have made

with who you and he's in plus he, he's gay, I'm not jeaned. But I'm... I'm trying,

and you're liable? Yeah. Really. It's a great liberty to not think to be to be camoufled, to be able to

questions. And even, I'd say that in my trantene, you know, let's say, let's be baloney, I'm like,

I'm like, to be the font calling, don't be baloney, it's not to be bonn, you know, I'm not,

I'm saying, oh, it's lege, I'm baden. I'm not I'm not in that. But you're

good to have escaped to all the page. You know, when you get to

a domain like it, as you know, where your car and your own tool and it

has been, and then with Nana, it's there you have you, you know, but, you

, your car to serve in what you know, in what you do you, you,

you know, you know, to have this rapport that, I think that's because you're

a little bocky. I refuse that my value that's in my envelope

corporal. I refuse. I refuse. It's not just like, no, no, I refuse. My value

is not the envelope that I'm not and I'm not, and the when I'm saying,

I'm not, I, I'm, I'm, I'm probably I'm probably I'm trying, I'm

okay, I've got to get to cassing my pancy that's intrusive or negative

to get in other things? If you're mad grave if you're in mind grave it's a minute it's really

it's really really change your life? No. If there's people who have the conference?

No. Because you could help the kids you could help the young women,

you're to help but to be talking like that when you doubt when when you

look at someone who's one second a second of more what's what's

what's what's what's they're never have even the reflex of, maybe he he's

maybe he he's maybe he there's too there's too there's too oh it's too,

you know, I'm I'm talking they're not quite, I'm I'm in my car

even if my car he's not a, like you said a small but I

know I want too of people who rush with their car who thinks more

to the question that our you know we can't be there we can't tell

too so So, you say, it's a tool. You're more holistic, it's a bit, you're your head, you have your heart, you're your heart, you're your

heart, you're your own, that's what, but it's what I'm saying, I'm not going to do you know, because I see that I'm in an

envelope corporal predilegey. So what's it's worth, I mean, that's the word, I'm telling you. Yeah, but

I'll tell you a example. When I'm married, I've been to see married, I'm to see, it's not really

a robe, it's a be a little redigot with, I had like something of frambra, it's the battene of my female time.

So, so I've got to have something to be joyue, but she was really combined the two I'm super satisfied but I'm sure, she was,

she's, you know, she's, you know, she, she, she, she didn't, she was not be used to be able to people like me, if you're,

correct, you know, I was like, to go back, like, to go to be to be sure, she'll be able to me to say, no, and it was

to be able to have a vestment Mary St. Peter. Okay. And so, It's, it's, it's, it's quite, what, 28 years? 27, 18, 8.

So, so, she's, she's, okay, I feel my, I'm, I'm saying, okay, I'm going to, I'm saying, she said, is, I, she, has, I said, no, but I'm not, you know, you know, I was, you know, this eventment, I saw the moment, I'd rather, I'd say, she, there, there, there's, there, there's, there, there's, there many people, you're, the mannequin, that's, you know, but she's,

but she's, they're rarely well, in their poe, like you let. That's it's a few. I've been the same the same thing the same thing

I'm saying that's not a bad sense that's not the fact that everyone would have to have been to have been in

a lot of that's not a heart, malacted in some car I've got there's luminous,

charmate, be belle, too insecure and even today I'm already I'm there's many to me

who have with their car and you look and you see, but I see not when test, you said

that you had to have like to have like of a year Greek, you know, it's like, it's so, it's for that,

it's for so that when you say, yeah, but I'm not a rapport. Because that's what you say,

okay. You can't, it's not a rapport because we don't know who it's that's actually

it has really not not a part with the car, it's a rapport with what you

know, because you'd have had been a comment that, you'd have been you'd have

rebutt to rebutted, but as you said, you've been entoured, because I think you have to protect our kids, we know, we're going to

see when you know, when you have said to a moment, I mean, I had made to try to test on the human, on the

opinion, and it was in all the detail, but there's a girl who is arrived, and my God, is beautiful,

you know, really, there, and we, we had made the exercise, and there, you know,

we said that we had had modified a photo versus another, which I'd choose, It's all, let's see, let's see,

she had been modified, but she had never been modified. But it was like the perception of her own to say, look,

it's that that does, okay, but I'm really, wow, it's beautiful, you know, but they were

completely she, but, you know, she, she, she, she said, but what's, she was,

I think, she was his father or his uncle, when she had been, I thought, she said,

he had said that she had been, she had, that she, in her head, she had

some of the head, she said, and we had affin these cuss, we had never affined. So it's like,

it's not an idea of the perception of the... It's true, but it's like that, but it's like

my own young female, even the young women, it's envaising that.

So, when we can't have some people who's just that's, you know, that's not, you

have to be some people that are people who have always who have been to say, yes,

it's possible. because you because you'd had been also just mised on your

car I'm I'm I'm even more even more today at the

inverse you know one of my fear is that the people just oh

Marina it's a point when for for me that it has

not there's there's a woman she's an girl that

she's that you're there you there's there you have there's

It's just to say that, oh, because I'm beautiful, I'm pointing the gender. Because I'm sure that it's my chum who pays all for me. Because I'm, you know, plenty of things. Do you know, that? Ah, well, well, yeah. Well, yeah.

Even, by, the people of the same milieu than me, there. Some, I've been told me, and I'm like, okay. Like, you're a woman of this same milieu, and, and, and, you're, you're, you're going to tap its head

to a more young, because she's, like, while you're, you're a grand entrepreneur? We're not talking, the card they're not out of course,

but you're an firm of a few, you're not you're not after a person to live? No, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, even that, you know, my ex

who is in Italy, there was not, I, I, I, I paid the cuisine,

in our house, in Sardin, I, you know, I'm, I'm never made life by a man,

never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never.

Even, I've done more to some of those people than some of them than they've done so, you know, but I'm

sure that's, he's not, he's done he's in stat so that's he's not like he's not, it's like he

don't be the crayon the cluel or the kind of expression that and all look,

it's like, it's, like, like, like, like, I'm saying, well,

because I'm cross, the people I'm associated to her and she oh, but totally,

so, you know, the first the first the first, it's like, Oh, well, she is belle, point. But you want to be other

other thing, that's just received in an interview like, well, my valor I think it's to be real. But no,

you're been more than just that, let's be more than just that. But, you know, I realize that each person is this sort of

this sort of little carton of who we're on the eyes of the other and that we just try to not be just

in this little carton that. But, you know, I see, I see, I'm a woman creative,

but entrepreneur and, you know, and an artist, I mean, I mean, my, your career, you know, that's never long in,

in what you do want to and to want to be able to I, I think, I think, I think, I think, I,

think, I, think, I, because you're an influencer, you, it's, you've been one of the Quebec,

there's been a chain YouTube, with your P.O., you, you're, you're a pioneer

also in your domain, You were a pioneer also to sit at in Quebec behind a micro with PO

and P.O. and P.O. Baudoin and to talk about you know, liberally sometimes you

were saying you're completely disheaned Yeah, we're gonna we're dead we're we're the case

to be but, you know, you're one of first to do that. And it's opened the

door to other person to see you, so you see, you see, you see, you see,

it's just that you crossed on you, and in at the same time, it's business,

it's an entrepreneur, that, to do you know, to have some a few of project, it's that my name says, you're

a fee of project, but it's a few of that, but an friend of the sense also that you have an employee,

you're, you're, you know, you're not just, you're not just, you're not just, you're not just, you're not

so, you're to say, it's something. Well, yes, it's something. And you it's a

thing, and it's a risked, and it's always the fun. Facts, you know, I know, I see that that's my life,

on general, on what's what that's important, or not important. You know, sometimes, we're in the expression,

there's something in our life, and we think that's the end of the world. But, like,

that, that's been to be a dramatize a lot of there's, there's not great thing,

I mean, there's the panic, really, really. Because you, you've lived plenty of,

the mountains of, in a car, Niporteur that's, I'm going to do a certain league, not that's,

not that's, you know, sometimes you do, well, in some what I'm, what I'm, what I'm doing at table,

well, it's $100,000, it's $200,000, it's three. Okay, well, in the employment that,

they have been their salary for, to be able to their family. So, so if it's not bad,

the enterprise, and it's their family who will get to copy, and, you know, like, there's an other affairs,

at all, so, so, Now, when there's a problem, I'm all the time, there's a question who's all right? There's a person who's more, it's going to be. Now, we're going to look at what we're doing. But, you know, like,

we're going to, we're grounded. But it does a sense. The way that you perceive, you know, the fashion that you love, and thinking to your employees and it's that it gives a sense to all what you do. You have some of the visage.

You know, it's concrete, what you do, what you do? So you've got to say, well, in the case, I think in the case,

I'm in fact, no, but because we know that the conference. You know, I'm don't know

these conferences, and I'm to make sure, the comments of the people, because it's in the experience of

the other that you do you're that don't some of the response. Because you're to

toss, you, is, is you, is you're afraid to make to say no? I'm not

afraid to me to make say no. It's platt, but I I'm not afraid to me far

to be in fact, it's a but that's the sagittar in me, I'm saying Marina,

you can't not do you know, I'm sure I'm going to do you know, so you know,

and all of that's it's like that it's going to get a gas to get that motivation.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Really. Question optorizzo. Yes. When you

when you regard your partour, of what is you the partour, when I

look, when I look, when I Is you the more Fier? I think that's

that's people that's my family and my family and the importance

what they have in my life the time that I give them the love

that I don't and that I think there's a lot that I'm I'm

a lot I'm I'm and the point common is you because

I'm I said, at least, I'm doing a chanceoise, I'm lucky, I'm trying to, and I'm a lot of people who are, but I'm saying, yeah, but Marine, it's you know,

like you know, and I'm in the chance to be on some people, you have a series of chance in the life, can't, and to be able

not there to, but, okay, but I do always that my more great richness, it's my world, and that it's not

my family, and it's not all the families that's not, and sometimes you want to be, but it's, it's just not,

that, you know, that I'm proxed like that my sister, of my son, my wife, my soncham, I adore, my beau friend.

You know, like, I'm a family proche, I'm fan, I'm fan, fan, fan, and my

friends, it's the most be the most people who are, like, in the sense, the most people,

the people, the people, who come down my life, who come to my life, they're like, there's not,

no sense, don't know, they're not extraordinary. So, so, that, it's,

it's, it's, really Fierre. Is that still an imposter in your

life? Or, often. Often. Not for the same but, you know, I'm

an entrepreneur, I'm saying, oh, you're an entrepreneur, and I'm like, I'm really

entrepreneur, like, it's been not so long than that. In the sense, I'm not the property

of Walmart, let's say, in the sense, it's a little scale. So,

so I'm so I'm so I'm sometimes, you're a great dancer, I'm saying, I've had

done, I'm trying to, you know, but I'm... But it's that but you're... But it's so, because an entrepreneur

to say, you know, you're an business, you're a business, you're a product, you know, you know, you're doing,

you know, how it's an entrepreneur? You share some data with a bank, you pay these DAS,

you know, you know, you know, at a moment of a moment there, you're a number, yes,

is that is still on your still, you're still your still still my sentiment

of abandon? I think that it's something that's a whole my life. I don't

that's a thing that's something that will just me quit a moment of a moment

but I'm that's not that's the point central of my life contrary to

it. It's changed. It's changed. I know that I know that

but I know that I'm to know my value today, that's

something that's a thing that's because I'm a marriage or that I'm part my

value versus that's that I'm not to me to be to be

to So, that I think that, I think that's beautiful. But I'd never finish a relation with a person. I'd ever, that's, that's,

I'd say, familial, or I'd never that, because it's my little bit of, that's my time, but sometimes

it's to be to be able to say, it's correct, you're correct, you do the place for other things. You're not too soon

in your point, it's going to be so, you know. And what's we can do want to do? Ooh,

what's we can me want, what's we me I think I'm in this phase of my

life where the the part of the moment like I'm saying I'm so that's

that's that's in the peace, in the state that's something that's something that's

something to let me let me abandoning that down saying that I can't that I'm

in February me be in front or in you know you know you know it's not

you can't you can't it's it's can't be but high and the bottom and that

finish at a moment don't know by refleurir that's that I'm thank you really

you're really you're really you're really you're you're you're you're you're put

in mind you know you're you're there where sometimes it's

sometimes you're I think you're an example for that but well

well we're often we we're we're And then we'll find by sysoled, you know, in this spirale

that, and, you know, you're re-lever. And, well, thank you to your visit. Thank you. Bravo,

for your podcast. I love, I adore, I'm doing it. And I like that to call me MC, I adore that. Hey,

thanks, Marna, Bastarache. And I'll say, to all the world, well, thank you, to have been there, and we're saying

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