Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #144 - André Sauvé | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette.

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

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that I know that I know quite before many, it's a time that

every time I'm an impression that you have something of a sage in him

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at their place to Andry. At all the nights that I go and I'm I'm going to do I'm going to I said that

again recently that we've started my redress I said that my matter on the impression that I'm not what he

for doing for to do that I'm going to that I'm not what I'm not what I'm and for all right my change

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Your Original and the edition Couple are available in Quebec and on randolph.ca. As I was

I said I'm really content that's that's around in the studio to open your it's a

question. But before to us make laugh, I think he makes it and that's important in

the life to be and to listen to talk, because the way they see

not the things like we and it's that it that becomes interesting. So,

obviously, I'm I'm sorry, and Andrew, how it how it how it? It's

It's what? It's a good. Yeah, it's a very, it's a very, it's not the same it's a very automatic, no,

it's really good. What's the what's, we're doing, in my life, where I'm where I'm

where I'm doing, what I'm what I'm doing, my life present, it is quite, yeah, I'm quite, I'm

quite, I'm, that's what you're always what you're in trying to live? I think that yeah,

yeah, I, yeah, I've always searching that a bit, to have also, to have also

someone, it's, it's been almost today I'm not born in the date but it's not quite the St.

Valentine, but it's not a lot of St. Valentine's PIL Okay, so it's a certain Yeah, yeah,

we're in 10 years, we're in a time, and it's never demanti from the day one. And that's

something that I wanted, the career that's that's a maria, that's not the vase

communicant, it's not because you're there's not because you're a mill that you're that clame,

it's can't not the 1, and the one comble not the 1, who arrived in the port-at my career at the same,

I said, do you too demand to have, in plus, that in my life? You know, sometimes we're so-taud, and so, it's all like that

no, so I'm like that, so I'm quite, I'm quite, I'm quite, is quite, I'm glad. Is it so you all right, when you've seen? Yes, and reciprocment.

Yeah, reciprocment, it's, all the two, it's been that, all right, all right, so, so, so it's far. Yeah,

yeah, and I'm, and I'm not, like, I'm not someone who has accumulated these packets of relations in my life, but at all the time, I piquette

like, you know, and I'm after that, you catch a month later, oh, my God, who's it that I had a text? No, it's, it clear all right, I knew, I knew, I knew, that I was sure, too, so, so, it's never been asking. So, you're ready to abandoning, rapidly? Ah, yeah, it's even not, you know, at least, you know,

I'll be trying to go out, you know, I'll go get too quick, no, no, ah, yeah, it's just, it's like, we were, we, we were, we're doing, it's like, you're at least, you're at I'm at all, you know, I'd I'd attended. At that point,

50 years? But it's kind of rare in a life? Yes, I think that we, I think

yeah, and that, we rest very conscious of that, I'm, I'm not, we're not

for at who, we're not for at who, we're all time, we're all that we're having to

get back in a lot in a when I'm when you're there, you're all the time,

all the time, we're not not, we're not all the time, all the time, together It's just

it's just it's a time, but in terms of time for the couple of the couple for the couple

normal, it's probably 30 years because the other part you're going to come the morning and you're

to come in the morning and we we're all we're all so it's it's been it's like some of the

amseur yeah yeah, yeah, we're very complimentary, we're very we're the same

we're the same vision of and that that's the base, and the rest is the fioritu it's the

decoration but when the base is there the same philosophy of life, it's

for me, after that, we're building there's yeah. And at cause of he,

you know, between the France and the but more in France, yeah, yeah, and then

he's, I've got to he's French, but in the whole, you're

in the world, yeah, yeah, yeah, so he's so, so he's

in France, he has made his house, there there's always live in in the

Alpe, and then he's found a a little a little

So when I had gotten, I had a house, the terrain, Jordan, so they'd have a lot of Greek. Because you have the Syloanette

French? No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm, I'm a resident temporary. But in fact, I'm going to, so.

But you're correct? Yes, is it something that's a question? I don't know, I'm very my attach

to Quebec again, I am the two, I'm content when I'm here and each place are, no,

I'm content when I'm when I'm when I'm here, There's something more... We're talking like

like these cousins and we're there's like something of there's a lot, I know that I'm when I'm in fact

when I'm often, so I'm gonna be here. Because I'm being here to be here for long time. Yeah,

yeah, there's the show so I'm here to go to school until the springtime and then

it's and so it's really to siennate the Quebec with the tourne. And the people are content to

to revoir? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's what I see what I'm

when the the booker, Walker has been the show it's the message that the people had had

out, you're content that I'm and I'm and I feel and I'm sure that's I've disappeared

and I said at the end of the show I've chosen to be retire to disappear and when you when you're

saying we're you're doing you're not that's like that I'm that I'm that I'm that's content

to say in an open to you know you're you're well yeah

because I'm I'm sure I'm at least and it's not a reflection lured, I

think, it's a little, it's a regard on the view, it's always in trying to,

to, to try to try to understand how it function, this affair that,

I feel not that, I'm interesting, it's something that's something that's something that you know,

how we function, and it's, this regard that on the life that I that I'm that I'm

perhaps, and maybe, more plus in this show that, and more in the other,

I'm sure because I'm probably the bough more in the show and the people

embark a lot of in this reflection that, which, well, we're in

some of the things, sometimes that's not necessarily to the role of the world, and the

part of me, with me, this kind of this kind of. Yeah, it's that, because we know you

know, it's a idea to be in your world, to be to be

to be in that the universe, and that I feel that precious, I'm I'm

always like, in the couple, when we're I was going to I had to I had to be able to

because there's a lot of ten years. That's it's a long ten years? Yeah, yeah,

we're saying, we're saying on we're at right. We're at cre, we're we're in and I'm in fact,

because there's things that we have no need some of the things, not preise for acquis, but the

things, the foundations are there. And with the public, it's a also, we know,

I've had had four four shows, and I'm can be to be able to go to go out

because there had used what he had been before. And I feel that's a precious.

I'm always that I'm going to be old, I'm going to be old to be I'm going to be old,

and I'm going to be being they're not going to be able to me say, I'm going to I'm going to

49, he's got got to something that's there's to be able to you know, to try it

on the you feel like that's I'm yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah

and now is you're hard to be able to be sure I'm you're the

I'm the better. I've got 60 pille, then I'm going to have, no, I'll have 60, but yeah, no, I'm 60. I'm 60. I'm 60. And I think if there were a button pose, it's a 9. Yeah. Because

because 60, there's a , there's a lot of, there are plenty to have to learn, but there's quite a good cushion in-arrier, of experience, and the body can't even, you know, one will declinate, and the other will but there, the X

they're going to see, he's crossed, and I feel that quite. So I feel that's quite. So you're in profit. Yeah, yeah, so. It's good to have profited when when we know when we're saying it's later. Exactly. Is that you ready to open your own?

Yes. So, there's, the level of verre, that's, it's these questions of order general. The level of jones are some of order a little more specific, so it's more in line with you. The level rose, it's some questions personal, can

I can't how I could say that? It's the questions more intrusive

okay the level rose the new Ros and the number of the sameor

of intimacy sensual, but there a grand choice. Okay. Question optorrezo is the

last question that I have to the inconturnable and in fact

I think it's to finish in douser this and you are

a joke if there sometimes you do oh that it's far too

I'm can't you can it can't you can't you exactly.

Right you put it I'll put it to do you ask you to put up. Okay, perfect. So general? More specific. More specific. It's more intrusive,

yeah, that's, yeah, Eros. Okay. So, you bring up on the table, the level of and you mean I don't five.

I don't five. Yeah, these five questions, I will tell you to choose one to which you will respond and

after, I'm I'm going to choose one. Three, four, five. So, so I don't that.

Exactly. Exactly. Okay. So, we're going. What place that's part you know, what you

do you to regard of the other when I look at the mirror, I see, what person

has made a difference and what is your report with the authority? I'll answer.

At one, and after that I'm going on a mirror, you go to look at the other.

Oh, my God, are all are all like attireante in some of I'm

I'm going to when I look at when I'm looking at the mirror okay

so you see what you know when you look at the minute I do I do

meditation every day and I I'm and I associate to

to to be to be to vary a one hour,

a hour, 45 minutes per day at a time

to to to to It's just to open all the ports, and see to look at all we're doing, to be able to

be something, but it's not to be there presently. It's just abandoned to want to be able to do you? And is it is a guide,

or completely alone? No, no, no, sole, sole, just respiration all the same to hire,

without moving, during, so, like, a half hour, one, a, hour, 45 minutes. And to be

in the mirror, for me, for me, it's, to understand, the world, it's not in the

sense of I'm I'm in the sense of narcissism but in the sense if we plunge there we're

more more understand the because we're in the someone who someone had said and it's a bit that

I think for me it's a for me this work for me to medit you know

you know to get in a minute and look but like without to touch to nothing

that it's that you're in the we're all all the time I'm I'm going to be more so

I'm that's all that's that's in this moment that all. You do you. It's like a state

of the way. Yeah. And how we arrive, how you're going to have to be able to because it's kind of a

art. It's certainly when it's even not guided when there's just alone it's a discipline practically,

a gene of life. So how you've done? I've done. I've done. I've had some some of meditations

where you're 10 years with a group silence. You don't don't know for 10

years, you regard to person, you're to talk to the person and you medit to be

to have a year by year, you're up at 4 hour and a time, just at 8

and a hour and at 8th and 9 o'clock and it's the one of the time I've made,

I've done to do that the only that's the only thing that I'm that's the only, I

could have to be talking about all the podcast because it's the life and it's

like that that I have learned it's like not to learn, it's not to learn that it's difficult, it's to let's

let's go what we're, we think what's the meditation, we're going to be in Irvana during a

one, no, it's not right, it's, to get to agitated, if you're in choler, look the

color, look the , it's not to be it, to act, to act to get to

act, but investigate, to understand, to understand, to understand the source? To be, to look

tell that it's it's even not to understand it's just it's just let's

let's go like it exactly we're like you're saying I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying

who'd be doing that you're doing you can't you can medit and you can't

imagine but I'm I've talked about to you talk about because

the medicine because the medicine now consultably to you know we're

we're we're we're we're we're we're there just

know, that's that's, you know, that's going to in India or no matter and then, well, many people are people,

when I'm saying, say, the people are really, the people are to meditate, I'm saying, okay, I'm still new

like a discourse that we can't, the same, so it's good that you're that we're playing, because it's

many of we know, that's about your little buddha, your odor, you know, you're just

that's just, you're a cushion. That's it, a little cushion, and it's all. And the The first time that you've meditated, you know, that you've seen, you know, that you've said, okay, it's, it does seem to resemble to that, finally.

What's what it has changed for you? There's nothing that to change for the bon, because it's constantly to re-fair. You know, this desire that to want, oh, my God, if I'd say otherment, it would, it would be done more, it's constantly to be. I'm not going to do you're not doing this? But are you more? A bit more. Yeah, a little more.

In fact, I'd love plus, to go, when I'm in peace. And when you're not in P, it's to accuelly, to accuelly, to accue, to you know, it's like

we're all in the life like a, a drapo on a trapeau on a mar and the drapo, it flick

aflox, it's our emotions, it's, our, our pensions, we can't be a

very, a drap it's made over to be over, but when you medit is you, you take the

point of view of the ma on the way of the the point of the view of place,

it's just that. But it will rest a drape that's a black-flok over. But when

you're able to be able to get up, to be, not to understand, not to understand, but to

see that, to see, to see, to, is, is it, is it is that

it's, it's, it's a way, yeah, yeah, we, we,

we, we, we're, because we're able, if you're able, to be to be,

to be with, to be, of the, whatever, that, to be, to be,

to be, to the accuelly and to look at it, necessarily, you'll have more of compassion over the other. Hey, I don't know that I'm there,

but it's a man to do you. It's a manned versus, well, we want to change the other because they

are going to make it in the way. And for me, it's a coff of an tool that is constantly to doffair,

constantly to do you, I'm not to do you know to be anywhere, no part, no way, it's constantly

to do you, I'm constantly, to do you, I see but when I'm but when I listen it's just it would calm

an agitation because you know that's that's a moment that's a moment of the moment to be, that you

will just be with you with you, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say,

to say, to say, this calm that, comes not to be not to be to be

that we're just to look at and we accept, and like that it's if we're

if we're , it's it's not it doesn't, it's because, we're in the whole,

you know, I don't know if you're to be your piece for medit but you know, there's a

something that's that's what I'm in what you do you know, yeah, I'm a little little coiff on there,

I'm even no, no, no, no, pant out of pat-out, pat-tut, you're just,

it's just, it's just, it's not the discor. It's not nothing, nothing, nothing,

nothing, nothing, it's a little nothing, nothing, I'm in a little crore, and I'm

there, It's the time to me. The time that I'm at, and then a time that I'm having, and then-a-tort, I don't want to be in a lot of time. And I do you do it, but I do with you, my God, it's like to go to the gym. It's like to go to gym, but when you're going to go to the gym, but when you, it's, my God, it's not, my God, it's not,

it's a good thing. It's the same principle, you know, sometimes it's not a bant-tooth. So, to this question, what I'm going when I look in the mirror, when I'm going in the mirror, well, in fact, it's someone who, And someone who someone who someone who is that

that I'm going to and I'm and I've always been in trying to search. It's for that you've started to interview and

say someone to say someone to say to ask you to people, it's these reflections, this regard

that, of how the view and what I see, it's someone who is someone who

which and who search what? It's comes all the time, it's being in

accord with so right to to have to stop, to be able to

get to get to get to the point of the point, he comes of a

decision to want to something, to do you to do you an arre to other other thing that

I think that's a calm that, but that's it's all the time to and then you

get to me said, you're et tionne my guy, it's like you're in harmony with

the universe but at the moment that your meditation is not better when you

you've made a list of of the it's a list of the epistle, then she's not good, she's not good, she's not what you're doing, then you're not, it's a good, and if you're there, you're trying to get to make sure, then the sense that, you're trying to, to what I'm trying to, of what I've seen, of someone who search, and what I'm

to find out of the point of view, the moat and not the drapot, to regard the view. It's interesting as much as

the drapo, it's the agitation. We can't not be able to, and it's the movement that that's the end up

that you can't not, he will always have something, he's a show, it's it's a threat, if someone

says something, it's, it's, we're, we're, it's constantly, we're constantly, we're 99%

in, in the reaction we're saying, that I like that, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm not so, I'm not so, I'm going to let's go ahead.

And meditia, it's, it's, it's just there. And it's just like, that I, that's just like, that's someone who's trying

to turn to that, I think. The question that I'm going to choose, uh, I'm, uh,

who person has made a difference? Ay, aye, uh, uh, uh, uh, there are

there are there are there are because yeah at several levels um

my god we're saying that I'm always eight pieces that I'm going to I'm

I'm depair I'm going to I'm going to say I'm going to that I'm that depose that

that I'm going to that's sure that if I if I if I'm in the

personal in love my coppins has a difference in my

life the fact to be at two because it's droop and these two and they go to

and the because when we're with someone it's a other mirror that the person

we're to know that's that's because we there's there's a part of

we can not see, we're not so, we can't see, we can't see,

we're not the other can you know, and I'm sure that it's a, it's a, not an

an base common that we have, we're relation for grandir. The other

is not there to make feel like to get to feel to make a way, you know, he's like,

we're in some of the things that we're not not in a way, you know, and in the difference in my

life, because he mends, because I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, by the

force of because we are, we're, we're, we're, we're in, it's a mirror,

my other, my friend, my friend, my friend, my friend, do you know, and there some,

be different, and there's things, that we're not of so and it's part of us who are part of us

and you know, a blockage sometimes or our limit to the time we're to find out of

we're limited to express or to express to do you know and you do you face to what?

Well, yeah, the way, and that this chemeh that, he's not

clear all the time and then then you're there, and then you're all right and then you have to it's all

but in the sense that yeah I'd say I'd say my coppin, because it's, but it's

that's a lot of people that's different at different level, but it's on the level personal, I'd would say, we're all the

two, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not trying to notary. Is it the first time that

you've, like the life at two like that, with all this openure that,

this franchise that? I think that, it's it's just in the time,

I'm in the time, I'm So, where I'm I'm sure, it's a bit more, I don't know, I've done, I'm doing, I'm doing,

and with the other, and he's with. So, yeah, to the point of, it's not really, you know, it's often vulnerable,

it's often vulnerable, and then we're at a pain to know we exactly, right? So, to, to be, to

be to be to be able to to be to be particular, that. Yeah, and it's not just to be

to be to see, but to extremely, It's really very difficult by my limit. I'm afraid someone that I'm the most and it's hard

to say, ah, I'm, I'm limited and the other, it's what? I feel it very difficult, but it's grandisant in the same time, rather than to do make assamlant and you're sitting at the top of

the top of, that, it's not quite but it's grandissant, but at all the times I feel that hard to see my limit, because we're, we're all over,

we're all over, it's all right, it's not say that the limit not be over the but it's not a

but when you're put in and you're it's not because I think it's in the contact with the other

that we're getting that's yeah, yeah, and so we can't be not

we're not we're not they're sometimes it's in the situation that's in the relation that

we're getting that's getting so that that's got that's in the relation intimate and I think

that it's something that I'd something that I'd in my life, to have someone like that

and I feel that precious I feel that very, very precious. Is it an impression that the

words are to more more than more essential? Parfoy, we, we we like, we like,

but, yes, it's very that, yeah, sometimes it may be, we're,

we're, we're, we're, we're, we're like, we're and the other and I'm

left the end, and I'm there's and I per that, I'm, oh, what chance,

I don't know, I say, I'm not who, I'm not who, but, but thank you, to have this person that,

and he's so, so, so, yeah, but it has changed this love,

yeah, it's more serene, yeah, it's more serene with the way, it's a

man, it, it's, an, a, an, an, an,

an, I'm, I, I suffered to that, I'm, and I'm, and I'm,

at this moment that, and I said be with, so with that there's a man, it's not

to come blueple by whatever whatever, view it, so I've been with that, I've been,

I'mbrass this man that, so when it's happened, it was, it was not, it was not

for boucher a man because I knew that I'm able to be to be but it

was a a cado. Yeah. You've been very in your life. You've been

if you're And then you know, you know, I mean, you know, I mean, you know, I'm saying, you know, we're too well to be too bad to know how, and it's an instinct natural. I had that too pretty to me demand how it, how it's going to, so I'm just continuing in this, you know, you know? Niveau-Jone, Andrew, on the wrist, and then, you know, you're going to answer. You will respond to a question that you will choose, and I will also have chosen. The same principle.

The same principle for the level of joint. I'm in four. One, two, three, four, four, like that. that's to you, I turn that Is it you're trying to

you're in you're doing to see a lot, oh, it's you're looking yeah, okay. You're the

which is the one, yeah, yeah, no, I've done, I've done a couple of

times, the time, the time, the time, the time, there's, the people, there's,

there's, sometimes it sometimes it touch some, but I'm much to listen in the present.

It's just tough, so, so, the future. No, I'd like to read Nogene, but, you know,

but, you know, and I'm sorry, the time, they point in our desires, and they're not saying that's that's really that

that's going to say, you know, but it's a very consult this person that, I'll tell, and she'll say, I'm not

not sure, but I'm, you really want to know, I'm sure, no, and that's that I'm sure, no,

we're always weird, sort of there, but there's there, but there's, but there's for who

it's reassurant to say, okay, this person that, it's to see, it's the, it's the, you're going to get to find out

someone, you know, to be able to do you, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's still in to scanne, no, no, no, no. But, there's, they're in chow

blue, all the chowbleu, all, is, is, is a hyper-sensible? Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, so that I'm so that I'm so that I'm too long in the world.

Yeah, yeah, I'm not in the world. You know, for example, you say, as we say, as far as we do

see, we know a day of the day, I'm going to be going to be able to have a man,

because I, you know, I have, I, you know, I, have to be, I, because I,

I don't, I know, I'm, I'm, I, yeah, yeah, a, one, a friend had said,

a part, a spectacle, she said, you, you, you'd be, to create some,

you'd have have been a lot, and I've responded to the blague, I'll you know,

I'll give you want to give you know, to the question, it's very that,

you know, there's just positive and negative, it's, I'm sorry for it's for all right,

but in time, I'd like that would be to put a off, yeah, yeah, yeah,

but it's not a off, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm , yeah, I'm considered,

like, yeah. The question John, how your relationship has evolved to feel

the time, what's what's I'm still doubted what type of amourous

are you and are you are there to not to be able to be able they're they're all

I'm I'm I'm going to make the materialist the question with the question with the

I don't know I'm sorry I'm there I regretter there but

but in fact I'm I'm past to I think sometimes it's

there's It's true that I'm financially, that it's not always been the case in my life, it's always been, as to, the bracket of the bottom. But in the meantime, I'm consoled at me saying, this research that, don't, you know, it's not because

that, I'm well, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm at least, it's not as to, as to be able, what I can't be, because I'm doing my business, second, man, and, and all that, you know, but, you know, there's even, we're not on the amount,

an kind of a special complex that's still in I'm not someone

who's not someone who depends but I'm for the service, I'm sorry for me

to make to be to be to be to be able to make a time of and write for me

that's a richess that is my salutaire more more like

more like the stuff it's a becane, we're an old char, you know,

it's not in the material but in the service like that, to be able me offer, okay, I can't

make it for six, more, a year, and I'm not just that, I'm not obliged to

do the contract of painting, like I'm doing that I'm not to do you do that,

that for me, it's a useful, I'm used, I'm in to continue to do

to do the creation, and this that, but I, but I'm Yeah, yeah, the complex.

But it's what your complex? It's to be at least? Because you've not been always been? Yeah, because I'm not always been to be to get a pair of jeans and a coat of time.

I said, oh, my God, you know, there's not a good You see. With it before. Yes, yeah, the reflex is always there. Yeah, I'm saying, let me, come on,

you can't get an time, yeah, but, you know, so, yeah, there's always there, there's always this reflex, that that,

but for the service, for what it A part for that, that, for example, I pay the threat for that, to go in a voyage, you go to look,

in a couple of you go to work, or to be able to have to work, because, but the work, it's, the work,

but there's not an obligation, to have, to have a lot of other things, because is, is that you

have not known other something, you'd like to the pricey- not, you know,

in the sense that you know, not, yeah, yeah, so, So, that it permits to say,

but just the luxe to take the time to write to it's already a great richness. Yeah, no, no, I appreciate that. I'm all the time

reconnoisseant of that, all the time, you know, my linge, I use. I don't know, I'm not, I'm I'm all the time

of, to, I'm not, as far as a couple of to the creativity, or success, because my

affairs, it's a march, but, so, I'm all the time to be all because it can part of,

it's all the time, I'm not I've already made a folly? It's a great question. Well, you know, I'm saying,

hey! In fact, we've had a lot of a lot of course because it's it's the fact and that

I said again to my agent, she, she has, she, she has, she doesn't.

And then, I didn't, and we had had been a contract, a minute, and she said, we're going

to get, to get to get, and I'd go to the boutique, in the case, it's at Oudremont, and we're to get to buy, and then,

I'd have to buy, and then, and then, I'd say, and then, the pantalance, I said, ah, are, so, that's not so bad, in the font, look, it's at the price of the cinture. And then, oh, my God, that's just the cintu, and then, look, it, it's not, to be the bonseys, and I'd have been, and I've

made, look, the four morseos, one, the pantalom, I see what, it's just a bit, but the pantalone, I just I've been in the sacheuse, they all refouled. I've never put them and the other

pieces of course I never never puted. It's a folly of material that I've made and I've all focked the

four more and I said I'm quite not parted. I don't know it's a defaure I'm constantly

I'm going to put that in secheo because it's not your because it's not no, and in time I'm saying,

yeah, I'm I'm able to depend this time for the linge, for me it's too.

So in this sense that, no, I can not say, I can't say, you can't be able to that's,

that's one of the things that's a time, but my my friend, it's one of a lot,

it's a service, but we're not, we're not a little chan, you know, when we're

dark, it's been good, but that, that's a thing, that's a thing,

that's a other, I'm still, the misery, the misery, the misery, it's a way,

so, we're going to We do it. We're going to go to a voyage. We're going to go to Japan. That I like that. So, this, the part of the world, to go to the life, to go to wherever. That, I'm going to pay. Is it to appellate a form of appeasement, of liberty? Well, to curiosity, to see, when I was young, I had to see, when I'm doing to see, and that, it's a lot of, to see, and that, and that's a moment, in my life, the voyage had been a few, it. It had been a few weeks. And I remember

I mean I had said, I never part put, so I'd not sent that I planted something, a drapot in

a drapot in me. And it was I was too reparty, and the first that I was reparty,

my affairs had come to start, and I'm going to go to at France at the first,

there was a whole, there was a first of I was, I was really to be able, to pass,

it was not a future, it's a continuity, because when you repor, when you're when you're

when you're when you're when you're my life, say, in a barrenouche, when you pour some pot, and you pour

some time, and you're in, you know, you know, you're doing, you know, that's true, don't, you know, and I'd rather, you know, that, you'd want to, you know, and when I'd part, it's that's so. I'd have continued, and I... So, so, so, and I've continued,

so, so, I've got to, and it's a lot of, you know, and I'd have to re-ent, too, and I'm at work, me, to write, to write, to write, but, you know, but, you, you know, in the, you, in the, you know,

when you said, when I was a nine-and, I'd want having time when you you'd always like to be a year. It was all the time of the

way, like the like the feud of the real? Yeah, yeah, a little a little, I wanted that was,

I had the little bit of the other bar to go to and go to the park. I could have the right

to go to that's the other bar of you know, I'd like that you're gonna get a place,

yeah, yeah, I'm sure, so it's a peasant. Ah, yeah, but you know,

but, you know, the money also, I think that's did you know, when, you know, sometimes, I mean, when I was thinking when I was young, to do you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a

challenge, you know, and I know, I see that, you know, and I see that presently, people, live so, because the, the cost of the life is immense, and, you know, I, to be, and to be, and quite, you know, when I'm having at the case, it, it's, it's, I mean, it, I mean, it, I'm, all the time, I'm, I'm, exactly, I, that, I, , that, that, for me, it, is, that, you know, this feeling I mean, let's have, you know,

you know, before, when I went to eat at a restaurant, well, the restaurant, we're on, we know, it's sure, not an entry, not of wine,

not of coffee, not of dessert, not, that's the plate, no, just of the oil, it's pittion, no, just,

it's just the plate. But the day when I was going to have an entry, oh, yeah, I'm going to and that's, and that's

it had made, my God, you, I can't, you know, I can't, the equivalent of your epit

to me say, oh, my God, you can put I can I think that's I think it's it's the liberty and the money

it's very relative in the same the quantity versus the business versus I'm I'm really like some

for me for these things it's really the money it's important I don't know I'm not

I'm sure I'm just I'm the most materialist but it's materialism but it's materialism

it's a relation with the when it's when it's when it's You know, you can't when you calculate during the night,

when you can't not offer to your children, you can't when you're doing the need, you know, there's a

thing, you know, there's a thing, it's, it's like a condition of life, you know, so when it can it,

when it's a piece of lux, that's a luxur, that that's a other affair, but the base of the

money, can't even, the relationship fluctue of the life. You know, So, the time

it can be something that's a something that's supposed to be the money, you know, the change

doesn't know, there's a moment, that when I can't get the amount, in the tell the amount,

you're more more than, but if you depaise that and it's more true, it's not the bonner

decent, because there's a lot of an anxiety that you're there's a lot, then you're

there's a there's like there's like there's like a barring, that's like, a brain, that,

you're more but the heart, but at all to that, it's not right, the people are more more than you, you're like, you're like, you're like,

like all the stuff to do you imagine. Yeah, and the stress that comes with, and the gourmandies,

probably, that you know, so you've got to find out exactly, and you it's not fair, the balancier, he swing

more of a butt to the other. What's I'm gonna to put you, is, is, is,

is, I'm, wait a minute, what's, there's there's, there's, there's,

there's, I'd pose totally. What's what I'm doing? What's the

time? You're the time to not to get to not a heart?

That's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'd

say, not long to all the time. At all the nights, let's

let's go I'm let's go and I'm all the sentiment and I

said that again recently that we've started the erode, I said that, my mater of arson.

I have all the impression that I'm not what I'm going to do. That I'm going to that's not what I'm going to and I'm going to do. And I'm going to get it with the parallel

with the money. It's a bit like you like that's you know, the caseil you don't, you know, it's not that you're going to fooier in your font of cyroar and you

have been soldue to buy some bit more and to sign it's a bit of that. I'm all the impression that I want all my bouttele

to get to get to get to the it's not it's not it's

it's not that I'm that I yeah that I'm yeah I'm feeling I'm not

I'm a thing you know the light and then the light and it it's

it's it's past it but pugh it's it's it's so

that's so you do to do so you that to do you

yeah and I'm to to to want to again

again, again, that's it's the same, it's the same, it's the same,

it's the same, it's complex, it's the same, it's complex. And in meantime, it's a

an edge to be like that's like that. And it you know, I think also, when we go

on a edge, it's, it's, it's border, to be, being, being,

in, being, it's a, equilibrium. And it's that that's that's a lot of you know, I'm often this example

if you go to the circle, if you get a person on the field, it's because he's at a hand, and it

can really be really come. But he made this field that a foot, the people will be

people, they're not the danger, you know, it's this notion of danger that and it's

so simple, I think, it's in a state in a state in in a place,

like the the, like, the field down and I'm like, compensation, amends that.

But I'm not, on the scene I'm not at least. In the in the end of it's like, but one

that's, is it that you have been more a laise? Yes, but there's always

a party who is who is in a time, like a funambul, it's

like a funambul. Yes, he's he's that's that's, he's

got to be to concentrate, to to guard his own his

my equilibrium. And I'm doing to be, the final view, even if he, he doesn't come up, he can't be there, and be in front, to be a toss of coffee, it's not right. He's got to rest, focus, and it's the same parallel that. And when it's a certain? And when you're in a spectacle, you're in common, when you quit the film?

Often, I'm very, well, when it's been, when it's been good, it's not often, but sometimes, I'm going to, at a-sweigh, I'm time, you're not, you know, and so, and that's, that, for me, it's, it's an emotion that, that's very satisfactory,

who is very, very satisfactory of, you know, I do all the time I'm trying for the

time, for the people say, I think, I'm saying, and when I sense that of the public, I'm saying,

oh, my see, we're going, that's, it's a value the cost, it's a

value the cost of what I've done, you know, because that it's, it's,

it's, it's, yeah, in all the what you've done your life, is that

the scene is what you provoke the most of the discreclips is you know, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, I'm a introvertis, I can't be a grandmonde and I'm

and I'm mean, I'm doing that, this business that's a thing, you know,

it's a talk about the first that you on the on the oh my God,

listen, I'm it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not, I'm

able to one two, one two, one two, one two, magnified in a piece. Okay, it's

good, it's good I'm not quite able to hear about to hear of a sound check. It's a

terror, a terror an terror to go there. We're put up to go out

to get there, we're convinced. Yes, it's a concoe I've talked

in the bed of that I've been in that I've had Judy Richard and

and they went to they've been used that's it's a little saint

you're in the front of the Temisquata, there's person of other who, terrorized, and the terrorize, and the terror has,

been a long time. But why you're done to be in the concour that? It's mysterious sometimes,

the, the, the, the, the pulsions, the elans, she, she's,

she's, for me, this eland to go, to be the time mysterious, I, sometimes I'm

mean, I'd like, I'm not to have to , because I'm sure, but I'm

same time, it's like that, it's like At Dejli, Judy, he was there, and then she was called him, he went to watch at Dejli. Yeah, yeah, he's gone to see. Yeah, yeah, he's gone to the first prize,

he made the price, and he made up, and his agent, he's been my agent, and it's parted very, very very fast. And I said, I'm at the beginning, at Judy, and I said, but I said, I, I saw, I see, I've been that much, but I'm not to find, I'm young on air, and he said, you know, you're going to come back

to have some, that you've got to be fun. The little minute will domine seven minutes, It's going to be seven minutes and it's really, it's made

to grow but I'm sorry to get to get to work, after, okay, but I'm in the

way, and I'm again, like, like, we're re-com to do, and to do it

to do it, and it had to be four, five years, I'm not back, and we're

a little cell of, it's a , you're a hundred, a bit, panic-att after,

to come to come back, to come to come in, and it had to re-brise this glass

that, to return to the world but I'm I'm a to answer because I don't see what

this eland I don't know it's like you know that's a lot of every time at all the you know

you're you're like you you're you're supposed you're it's sure that it's it's a part

it's it's a recompense it's so the yeah it's like you're yeah it's recompens

but it it's not it's not it's going to go to go to go ahead to

get to it's a little bit like that, to find violence a little bit to go and in a

moment of the when I'm in when you're there's, when you're to be in this, because

you know, is, I'm at the heart I, I've got an a price,

a reconiscence of what I've been to do you have to do the attribute

to be at the heighter? Hmm. And I try to to, to respond

honestly, not by false modesty I don't know what, but we're to be

to me to know, I'm prent the reconnaissance of the other, and I'm to try to

me let's say my name, but she's imprinted the phrase of the other, because it's always to

do you're to do you, I'm still the sentiment that I'm not what I know, and I'm

maybe, maybe it's maybe it's that's like that's like that, I'm you're trying, you know,

it's it's I have many times you said to me say, it's a re-fair it's a

re-fair. Because, you know, if you know, it's a work, it's good, and you're

feeling like, and you're feeling like, I'm trying to to get to get to do, but the landmendal

it's, we're doing, it's a pre, it's, it's kind of something that can't,

yeah, yeah, sure, it's, something, yeah, I, I'm, I look,

I'm over, I'm in- over the next to do, see, it's, and create is the same It's uncomfortable

And then, and in a meantime, it's that's that that's like... Yeah, it's so anxiogine in two spectacle to say,

by example, you know, like you're in trying to present your new spectacle, but, well, the last year,

has been a impression, is, you, you're... Ah, yeah, he's... It's, it's, to...

it's, to... It's... Yeah, Yeah, it's... It's ardu, but it's this bout that that I'm,

I'm, I'm in inventing something, I'm in something, you know, I... they charge

of the lard when you when you when you're when you get a value the ton of that's

a ton of rock that's over the little bit of the color of different of the old and it's a it's a bit that's

you piage and you see a oh you're a piece and that it's off the work

and for that I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not that I'm I'm I'm not

I'm I'm sure I'm that's a pretty said that yeah I'm not

not so but have written, and that I see, it's a matter, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm very, quite,

and when you're finished a series of spectacle, how you go, because there's like accomplished, right, there's,

it's finished, so you're not to start, no, that's been, and then I mean, I'm saying, oh, me,

I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, more, to come to my head, it was finished,

and I'm just a few, three years, and I'm I've re-traveined. I've come to write. But if I'm

in trying to inventing something, he's not something in my life. He's not something important. I had to

have a point, I had to put a job, and it's just the bon, we had to and then we work out, and after a

bit, it's, it's not something to my life, if I'm in trying to create, if I'm in trying to create, and for the

instance, it passed by the writing, but when I'm not that, ah, yeah, it's definitely because,

jardine, like you do it's a creation. It's of the creation. I'm doing it. I'm quite of course. I'm quite as a masson. You're almost a masson. You're doing it.

Yeah, yeah. The cloture in pierre. But not just a mure. But, but it's a but to try out, but I do that. But in the

creativity, it's a moment, she's not as a certain limit. Not as that's the is, like,

she's like, as she's presented to a public, it's that tamed the little who've that's not

definitely definitely I'm not yeah but I'm in with but it's interesting I'm sorry

that it's sure that it's sure that it's sure that people have been to travel that

we're going to like that obviously in other domain but to say I'm I'm sure

I'm I'm tortured by that but I'm we're it's got it's to have

the answer yeah yeah yeah yeah and again again

and again again again and again compose with. It's the fear and in the same time it's the

desire it's like a danger but he's like he's to be able there

there there's a there there's a in fact my my fearty ah

for to respond to the question my my feart she

she comes to not to not have succumbed to the

fear my my fear that if if if I

had succumbed I had not been, I'd say if I'd have to scombia. I'd have succumbed. I'd have been to have gone, and I'd have been

to have been. Yeah, and you'd have had a doubt, parable to see? Well, a mark. You'd have, I'd have been, you'd have a time. Yeah, and you'd have to say, yeah, yeah, there'd have been, you ever, yeah, I'd have been there'd be a difference in my life, because he'd there, before, that I'd have been, there's always a

man in my life that, you'd be, you know, and, you know, and... And, you're a communicator, also, So you've found your voice for communicate that's on the text

that's that's written exactly, exactly. No, well, a chance that you've

had to be that, but it's that you have, that's this sensibility that,

this form of vulnerability that also that you depose on us before us and we

when you're there, and we can't there's there there's there

there, there's a form in this vulnerability, I'm always to be close to that but there's a

more of the more touching. It's the vulnerability that we're able to demonstrate. It's always that we're

going to touch the other and it's like, when we're when we're vulnerable is that we're going to we've been to

get to the voile. Yeah, exactly. So, so you're saying on the scene. After.

When it's finished. Is that you're going to get the people after? Then, I was it

before, and then because it's it had been two shows, the centen

of show before to assume that and I thought that because you have

cut up after. I'm going to put their mantle, I'm in a minute, I'm in

a d'oche me to get to put to keep this energy that. I thought

that difficult to, I'd go to I'd go to And, I want to descend to this

and they're to remit there, there's a and I think you know, I think you've cut this,

after, you know, a guy who, who, who, I don't, who are, I'm, I'm not,

I'm, I'm going to, I'm going, to be 12, I'm going, you know, I'm going, to say,

we're saying, we're, well, then, you know, then you're, you know, it's nine, it's nine,

it's finished, it, it's, you know, it's, you have, , you have made a fine.

You have to have to have to get a energy that. Because for for the

other, it's sure to red to get after. And I'm to cut up that.

And what's what I'm do do you do in the loge and my

technicians me talk to, they've changed their point. And

yeah, really, there's really, that's to be to come to come

to to come to come to because we're magnified on that, you know,

it's not the real life. It's not the being like that

when you go you go, it's going to you're going to you're not not going to say someone say, you say,

excuse me to be like that's when you're on when you're in when the radio to come, it's going to be finished, it's

going to get to get to it's cut it he's got to he's and it's finished after, it's finished

the royal but there there's a scene, I'm going to finish there's but it's

can't even a little extraordinary that you can't when you can do you do it's a

life it's a It's a responsibility. It's a responsibility. You have not the right to flue the people. You have not

the right to do that on the same. I don't know why it's something that's something that. You don't

have the right to do that. They're they're not they're not they're not and it's that

that that that every that's every time I'm that's they're people people say

my God would you have you have to turn to a hour and a minute text. It's not that. It's just

the mechanic, retinae these words, but to have touched this verity that, and the pass to those others, you have not the right to flow, the people. It's beautiful, that? Niveau, Andrew. Yeah.

There are four questions, you can't give three. You will respond to a single question of a new rouge. I'm trying three? Yeah, you're on don't three. One, two, three.

Like that. Perfect. So, I'll let me. Have you already attained your limits physical or psychological? Have you

fear of the death, and what is your great source of insecurity?

Um, you're to be the life or attain the limit psychological?

Hmm. I hesitate between the two. Oh, I'm blah, I'm at

you have you have been to have been to have um

I'm with the death more, I'm why. Is

is what I'm afraid I'm afraid of like many of people

to suffer that I'm not but but the but the life

the way I represent and that me make a

sense I I think to a man I

think a person that I represent and that

me do it I feel like that's the whole of our life we've

been a got of and when we're we're we're in the ocean the

god of the god water she's evapor not it's dilute in something

of its nature but that it's more more that I represent

and it it's like that it's like that it that it's that

it's it's this this fashion that I don't and

And then I'm like with the meditation the mar is there all the time every day we can

we can see to be every year there's a day that's a day people who are a fine

all the all the all the things are and we can't train and I try to

I'm with the little for the day when the ground will arrive

I'm I'm I'm she she's but she this sentiment

that of something that something that's something that every

days, you know, a fine of relation. We're saying in a fact in our life, there's a final in a end of a

question, it's what the next thing, I don't know, it's not when something finish, that all right, there's always

there's always there's a little time, and I always in these moments of, okay, apprvoise a fine,

so with a fine, you're not boucher that to know, to, for apprivoise this affair

that. I think we have the opportunity in the life. There's some of

they're in people who are they're saying there's a bit of baddo. The bardo is it's these states

of the state of when something when we're in a other, when we're in something, it's stable.

There, there's a of a turmoil, I'm not how we're saying that, of the

turbulence, and then there's a there's a other there that turbulence, the

the end of two are extremely fertile because when we when we in the

little the little train, go it's a danger to there's an opportunity to guard our... So it's like, all right? It's possible. Our antennas are our own. Our antennas are aghuised when we're there, and it's an opportunity to resist. The fact of it says, we'll, have to learn to learn. It's not, we'll have to accept it.

accept this state that because it's true, sometimes we're to try, we're asking to be able to

while that's necessary for to arrive to get out. And these little there are plenty of

and I, and I talked about, we, when I had been before, I've changed

so much in my life, I change on my time, we're going to that,

and there's a year and it is an table long time to the page,

I'm I'm I was not, and I'm very much, to not have been to have done to be able to just as to

this concour that's, you're in the time. You were in the time? I was in Quebec,

yeah, yeah, I was choosing to purrots to be able to and I'm and I was, and I was, and I

did, and sometimes, there were there were some there was a opportunity that, and we said, no, it's not the

bad thing, just as the concoour, and that's it touched, that touched something. But if I

had been I'd have been in a lot of that's a I'd be to go to I'd be

to work you're to work to get to work to do you know that's in whatever that's that's

like the little bit of these little moments of transition of flatment of something that's something that's

something that in this period that, rest that the doubt is is powerful that's

it's bad it's it's tough and that we're really that we're being sure of that's

to not have succumbed to be able to to be able to yeah, and you know, there's a there's a regard when you know

when you're to get a view, to you're going to what, what's going to what you're doing, what's going to do you know,

and it's like, it's like, it's like, it's a point to turn to see, and the regard of the other

sometimes, in these moments, in these moments, when you know, when you're talking to, you know, when I'm

my response, assume them, I said, not great things, the people the people he changed

to the subject if there's if there's a question I'm going to I'm saying, well I'm doing, so I'm doing

just at the contract of paint and for me they said not quite there's not quite than to mean tithe

to say it's meditative for example yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's

therapeutic yeah to say you're at you're at an issue and you

you're you're doing a a work it's extremely it's

but it's but I'm I just to come to me for my, for me, it's these moments that, a moment that something is terminated.

It's like if we're not animated. And there's between two, but these moments like I said the barredo,

I'm talking to, I'm talking to these moments are extremely fertile because our antennas are at this moment that,

which is not the case when the little train, he roll. And, and, yeah,

these moments are they are precious, is. Is that have v. Do you have been

deyes, in your life important? Yes, my my father, and one of my frere, who is more of an accident,

who is a accident, who is an accident of a work, and he is a manor, is there is a long time? I'm not born, it's a lot of years. It's not,

a dozen of years, and, uh, wow, wait, no, that's been, wow, a moment, and it's, and I was a

spectacle, a homage to RBO at this moment that, and I was the friend of a, how that's

Let's please, let's say, let's say, hippocondriac in RBO, he's always at the time with a little chapo. Mr. Caron. Mr. Caron,

okay, after I was in a little old. Yeah, so. And I was that the frere of Mr. Caron, nomage at RBO,

and my, I said, I was going to do a friend, but he is paranoid at the level psychological, and he had demanded

that the number to terminate emotionally. And I was doing, so I was, so I was doing the frereer of Mr. Coron

existed all that, and at the the end, he'd learn that Mr. Coron He was more. Is what,

my frere is more? And then you have a little music that and it's over dramatic. But my

very friend would have in the cell. It's said, he's died, he's dead,

he'd be in the same, and he had to go to go to the show. And I know that's

and I'm playing this number that. It's had been extremely extremely, I'm extremely, I'm

I'm still, you're not Andres Savoy, you're the friend, Mr. Carron.

But, And so, after I've seen, I've seen, the riddle of, who's who were, you know,

it's like to be, it's like a little bit of to do you, yeah, yeah, yeah,

and I'm to do, and I'm a friend, there was, a fran, a guy of shop,

then, and said, they said, well, we know, that, I'm, I'm,

I'm not, that, you know, not, you know, that's, you do it, you do it,

you do it, you do it, and I'm, they're, it's, why? It's absolutely you're finished

by the same by saying that you're to learn with it. So, yeah, it's a

murder so it's an murder that's an that's an that's an call that that's a

yeah, yeah. And all that's to say, my remember, my father had said,

in the months of someone, someone had said, how, it's unjust, oh,

there's a there are there who attend to them, and other they want, and my

part had said, it's not unjust, it's an other justice. It's always rest to respond to this question

that I think it's a old justice. We know not the code we know not the code juridic of this

book that but it's a other justice and it's I'm always I think wow, what I'm not

there's not for, yeah it's a other justice that we know he's he's

he's not too long time? It's was like he's he's more after

my brother a cancer It's been quite a young, 179 years. Yeah,

yeah. Because we're when the father me're, especially for the men, there's like

a shock because they're like the next in the liney. Is that what you have felt

that? No, not in the sense of this line there, but by the

I'm content that he is viewed that I did the show that I'm very,

very content to that. That, I had thought that's, that's, that's,

I was doing again the contract of paint and that's not to start but he had

to be the way to do you know, he had been to turn out of he had a little bit of his crackbook

that's all my stuff. He was hyper, quite quite and my two parents were,

he was content to what I was content of that. At least he said, because he would be

well, he'd be sure, I, see, and so, and, you know,

is that has had been the time to do you? Yes, but it's, but it's

, to do you know, and the week that's very, very bit, it's all right, and then, who's been to

get some the pumont, and there's like a lot, and it was like to get to the hospital, and the point,

they're going to get to be, it's been, it's, it's, it's been a day, and it's been to say, you're not

suffering, because there's been there's a and the foreman, the foe, and the soil, and the o'clock, and the o'clock,

it's a, so, so, it's a, such, there, such, and so. I mean,

so, and I'm saying, well, it's a other justice. I'll have his way to his way to his way,

but he's not suffered. That's just, I'm happy. That's what, I do you know, that's the change.

Ah, yeah, we, we'll be profite when we're there. It's a cliched to say, but yeah, but it's not

cliched for nothing. The cliché for the cliché on the verit Yeah, absolutely, because, you know,

when you know, when you know, when you know, you know, the image, the person that's, by the rear.

You know, all of those who I've met with cancer, it's all the time that they're going to you're going to you're going to you're going to

you know, and you know what you see what you know, and you know, the world has changed because you've you've got

you've got to have already your regard. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, I'm so you're not sufferer necessarily.

Yeah, it's this affair that, you know, so on, your friend, he has not suffered. No, the two have

not suffered. And you're to have a job with your and you're a relationship important, the relationship

my father-fice. So, the level rose, Andrey, the new the new the new are you hard

to respond to Ros? Well, new way, I'm going to get to a joke a question.

I just me on four, if you'll please, you'll choose routine. The two

of the two of the perfect. You've made like some of some of the

little pyramid. What's you had aimed to know on the sexuality

at 20 are you comfortable in the sphere in the space? Can't

accord you to the intimacyity emotional in your relationship in your relationship, what you don't know, so you're gonna be that you're gonna that.

Oh, you're gonna be, all the interest in a number. It's like, well, that's all that's all

that's all right, that's all right, that's saying, oh, the last I'm at the time, no, it's not

not far in a flop. What is, the place, accotted to have you, you, the relationship amourous, is it comfortable

in the sphere of the intimacy in 20 years? At 20 years, I'm going to be comfortable in the sphere of the intimacy ? Listen, yes.

Yes, it's something that me, it's not uncomfortable and I'm preempted to the other question also because there's the place

in the intimacy, there's the place of emotion. Yes, the space emotional. The aspect emotional. because it's overlap these two

and it has been part of because it's emotional, it's not the sexuality, there's the emotion

that's pre with, and I'm, I'm, not a old game, but in the sense that's clear,

it's, the fidelity, it's something to what I think in a couple. And I think it,

by experience, because I had a moment of a moment of a moment, where it was open, and the affair is universal.

You're saying, by the fact of the show, Coach, I had, at 20 years, it was, I'm going to finally, because I'd like to

say to say, because that I'd like to say, that's the over in a joker, I'd I'd rather than a 20 years,

in the sense that I had an relation where it was the other was the most over, and all that, and you know

I know anything, so, so, that's the first, and it's, and I've suffered, to the martyr. For me, it's not my

values, it's not my affairs. I'm not, tant-mure, the, you know, the... Yeah, but, you know, your... ...withalmourne with someone other? Look, it's...

It's... It's... ...it's too dolorous. I don't judge not those who are that. Tand me, if you have what, for that,

I don't know. And when I said that, the fidelity, I know by experience, you know, I extremely suffered of that, you know, and that's... And that, you're at least

to say, okay, I respect your choice, but I'm not. Yeah, because there are a couple like that. When there are one who he proposes, the other has a fear

to lose, he will say, yes, but it's not their first. And it's a very, and it's a question that we're saying, I accept, and that,

and that's been like a error, that I'd have made to say, at 20 years, to say, it's not that. And the

I, with who I am, with who I'm presentment, I'm saying, at all the whole debut, I had said, as,

as I said, at all the beginning, it's that's all right, it's a clear, clare, and I'm trying

to say, it's in order, malgris that that's that you know, no, I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to say, I'm tithy I'm going to let's see that I'm going to live that, and he's

that he would be very, very well. And it's something to call. And so,

and so, the pan, pan, amourous, but it's correct, but it's, but it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, You know, you know, hey, you know, it's beautiful on the paper, to say, I'm going to

ask, I'm going to make, impossible to live that in my life. You're not, you're not, you know,

it's impossible for me to live that. But I, I think, the fidelity with the honesty,

in the sense that, you know, if you want to something else that's in your

set, you're to tossing something that's in your but if to be

capable, because, because, like, the infidelity for me, it's like not to want to

regard to I'm in I'm going to person who's person who person will come to comeble your mind

or not your we're not able to come yourself to make sure to make sure to make sure to make

you know it's that with you will be insatisfair at a moment of a moment of some of and you

will be dissatisfair and you but we look don't this affair and if you go to it's

for me I feel it I feel that more rich to to look this limit that,

this moment that or this non-comb cloblage to look and to be able to that,

to get to go to that, it's my philosophy to me. And I feel that more rich in

a relation. Yeah, because that's, it's that you're not in trying to develop

with your partner actual when you're going to be, it's that you read, no,

but no. You regg not, and you, and again more, time more for those who

it's function. I'm not there for judge but I'm it's a something

something that I'm in it's a thing in the thing in it's not a non-fidelity it's a

consentment it's a it's when it's when you know, it's not you know to do it

and then you know, it's absolutely but even but even it's not the contract that I

that's that's it's really it's so it's really so much it's it's still

in a period where it's, it's, it's a name D'Amance, but it doesn't say that it's not say that's

not quite, no, but sometimes, because it's like something that's, it's like, it's, it's,

it's, it's, to be at the court, to see, in the sphere of the intimacyity,

because there, there's still, there's a lot of that, you know, how, how communicate, how to

how's how how it's how it's for that, that's, for me, it's important to have,

these discussions with the invite because it because it's part of the life. Yeah.

And we're in an time where all the whole all in a consumption, and we're in

it's a transvaise that in, that other does it that's not real. You know,

I've heard some, I've heard sometimes, I'm in reunion with people, and we

talk about of the relations amoeoo I, you know, it's a old couple

but there there were there's, but I'm what I'm what I'm that's that, it's that

that I'm trying, it's that, and I'm, I was, it was a bit, but you're like, but what's you're doing,

you know, to attend to the other, but you're to get to be quite clear, there's not clear, where the

where you know, the fact, you know, that's a relationship, not complicated, well, they're not complicated,

I mean, it's a complex, it's a relation human, you know, it's not that, it's not

in the sense to complique, but it's complex, it's, it's a touch plenty of things, if it's

just to look, to regard these things, in not in the least in the more than the

more than the I'm in the people who are in the last people are in the last years, when they're

when they're talking about, I'm saying, I'm saying, it's a part of the response, that's not

what she has made, how it gained, how many it's what the look because

we're doing we're doing we're doing but when you're seeing being, it's in

the invisible I think that the love, I'm see on at the at the beginning, I said,

I said, I said, I rest to Quebec, you know, I'm afraid, he said, it's a little bit of,

it's a back, and there's, it's a bit of air, after, it's a technicality, it's arrable, I'm,

I'm doing, I'm, I'm doing, you know, and I've cut up, and I've cuted the

tourn, I'm in the beginning, to be to arrange six months, six months, and the,

and the technique, it's arranged when the back, after, after, it's just

the technicality. Yeah, and there had an open to that. Well, yeah, but it's very that I think there's a lot of, I think there's I think there's

a lot of to find the model perfect. Yeah, but it's can't, person will be able to

complete, but it's important to be it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, is that with the time,

just that this intimacyity that gain in profounder? Yes, yes, I think that

in our In other case, we, it's... And, and then a few, we're clear, you know, and then a lot of, he, he goes impatient at, let's on, let's on,

on a pattern, you know, but I said, ah, he's in but I'm going, but I do all the time to come, it,

it's, it's, it's not, it's not to be in, that you know, that's the speed with the time with

the time, you know, but it's all the time, we're, to turn, until the until the end, We have our points, and it's sort of, we're talking in the troupe. After that, we're going to rest there a week.

There's a... I don't know. After that, we're staying at three days. We're going to rest, you know, so it's... So it's evolved? Well, yeah, it's evolved in the sense. At what you're going to, for you? Ayie.

It's partage his life. Partage his life with someone. It's this thing. Partage, the intimacy. Partage, that. I think that an amourer, an amoeuress, is someone to privilege

who he is a lot of you know and that it's reconforting I think that's a response

in the kind of the end of the end of being to for boucher the solitude but

partage that great solitude that inerante that all we're all all and it's so

that we're all right but to share that yeah yeah to be to be it to be

it's not yeah yeah completely. Is you chicanes, do you chicanes, oh, we're going to be so on, it's a point,

it's a lot of time. It's a Greek, so it's a, it's a, it's a clatter. It's a clatter. I'm at least, I'm not used to

tap, blah, wow, you know, but he's finished, well, I'm not finished, well, I'm not

it's the same yeah, but there, a time a minute, I'm not a minute, I'm not, I'm not,

so, So, yeah, but it's It's not due not long time. Is that you've applied the Greek? I'm not

me sure, but I'm sorry, when he's when he's to say the phone, after it's to hear-dye

to talk, you've been to talk about, you've been to talk about, yeah, you've been, to say the

subject, but I'm never made, I'd like that I'm in a moment of a good Yeah, yeah,

is that's good, is there does that say? Well, no, question, and I've pished, the time,

you've put, the last question, the last question, Andri, the question opto-resso, what lesson of life, am I to you to be able to us to be?

Aye, ayes. I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm going to say, I'm not the word lesson, but,

but what I would be partage, if I would have partage, I think, is the,

to be curious, soy- curious, to, rather than to tass the shows,

so often he'd And that, I revere again with the meditation, because for me, for me, it's the way, when something arrives, I said, tantal, you know, the anger or the, you know, the, you know, to the, say, what, you know, be curious, of the color. So, be curious of these emotions.

So, what's, what, this affair? But the, it's a move-express, and, it's a great protection. It's a protection. So, why, why it's, why it's, investigate, to be curious, and it's so, that I try to, to find, in my number, I try to grata

this curiosity that. I say, I want to give not to give the lesson to share

that curiosity let's be curious that's curious together. Look on this affair that's not very pomp

we'll have we're going to be able to and then if you're and then let's get me and we

will partage a bout and we'll try to be the phone but it's on the if we're

if we're we're not we can't we can't we can't we can't we can't we can't

we can't is is the curiosity, it's what it's what it's what it's

oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, you know, the,

the, the, the, they're all, they all in common, that's curious,

it's, what the next thing, you know, that, guard, young. I've

made two four over- your game, with Janette, for

the cent episode of over her, she, it was a few years

before, and it did it was a lot of York. So it's the second time that I

met with that's a extraordinary, you know, to understand the story of women also, because of many people,

we've been many people in the cell, we're doing what, but I'm about what on the,

on the with Janette, on the years, on the view, in fact, with Janette, I'm,

there's, there are, there are there there, there are there, there there's, it's like, there's not

age to be young, and there's, there's, there's, there, there, there, There's some. There are people who are young who are

exactly. And I said, it's like if in we're saying, we're going to to be able to start at a period of their life, and there's what we're in what we had before. You know, it's like it to have been to have a refus, it's more than my time,

the month has been to be arrested, and I say, we're saying, it's that, being to be young, but when you continue and you partage all what you've learned, all the the experiences, when you're capable to report how it's living before,

the evolution, to transmit of this way. And when I was going to be in trying to us transmit our history.

But she's a job because she's inquieted of her father, and the pornography in line. You know,

when I asked, what's the preoccupue today? She's that. We don't don't know the sexuality

of the good fashion. And then I said, but okay, she has a cent- time,

and it's at a good place, and she she's a preoccupied for real and she has she said

she has she has she has she used she has she continued so it's like

but it's a discipline it's because we have the good to sassoir we have the

we have the good to say it's an it's a element natural to say

well pose my valise it you have and always

and it's a discipline to guard that more the

creativity guard young, to write to be in the form that it and I'm sorry I'm sorry

the writing because I'm the impression that's not I'm doing even if I'm able to work I'm trying to

tap on a clavier and if I can't I'm not I'm gonna and it's it's, so it's

time much because in dance classic it's a bit more but it's show that the writing has that

you can do do it's all your life just a Jeanette andette and written and that

it's guard, because you're curious, you're this curiosity that, to say, what's this show, I'm

going to be able to go to see what, we're going to go out of the question, to share, to be sure, to be sure,

this curiosity, that, it's a matter in the domain, that's, it's, it's really important

what you do, the curiosity, what's, what's, what's, what's, you're trying to do you're trying to

to do this question, yeah, yeah, I, the most surprised, Yeah.

I think, I mean, I'm going to, I feel like, I've always the sentiment that I'm not the same

and what I'm surprised, is to do it and it's not and it's, my God, but I'm doing, I'm doing,

I'm not, I'm not, there's, it's, I'm not, you know, when you're on sign, you're an pilot

of an pilot, by the correspondence, you know, and I, and I'm, I'm playing, a van,

and, I put that, by, I put that on YouTube, but I do it but I'm... If the little Andre, you're looking

today, what's he would be in what's the person I'm doing, I mean, on my

minute, a conco, I had gone at the, the, I think, nine years, I think,

nine years, and the photo, the guy, you're in trying to make the micro, he'd

because I'm too, because I'm still than pretty, more, than the other, and I look,

and I see exactly what I I was at this moment I'm likefied in and in and I think he'd

he'd be he's he's reconnoitra and he said well the question of the chance

there's a one of the one of my place it's a little that the little he said

to be not you're not you're not done your place you're made in me

but I think we're we've we've we've done we're we're

we're we're not there we're not there your capacity of emmervement? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and it's she's her that I'm trying in the last spectacle that I just do find out, that's to partage that that that's about, the nature,

how all that's it's been echo to us, and that's my merveys, yeah, I'm sure, yeah, yeah. And what's, what we're doing, do you want to be,

andrey? To not change. Huh? That's going to be that's good, like, you're good, with what we're, to

to stop to have to say, hey, to we're, it's the all the time, you know,

I'm in a flash I'm trying to to find out of to find out of a matter, it's long time, it was going to

be in 2009 in the in the question, is that you've been answered, I'm there's a

lot, I'm not there's just me who he's just me that, is that is still

oh, yeah, I'm talking so much, I'm sorry, I'm It was so much. Oh, I'm a good good,

but there just just me. It was just me. It was like, this response that, I'm asking. It was really, and in the same revelator?

Yeah, yeah, I'm just so much all. Oh, yeah, I'm just so, my son, me, that's all right, very, very well.

You know, you know, you know, you're not, you know, that's, it's a role, it's your kind of,

it's, I'll retent of the conversations, yeah, yeah, it's always in the So I'd be ableition.

So I'd that continue. Well, thank you. But thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Andre Sov. It's been a pleasure.

Pleasure for me also. And we'll see to the next podcast, bye-bye, all the world. This episode was presented by

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