Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #145 - Slimane | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette.

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

La première fois que j’ai entendu sa voix, j’ai eu un coup de cœur pour la profondeur et l’émotion qu’elle transporte. Cela fait déjà quelques années que je souhaitais le connaître dava...ntage. Il a accepté l’invitation.Slimane est un homme sensible, un papa dévoué, un artiste qui se sent à sa place sur scène, et on comprend que sa famille est au cœur de sa vie.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:09:06 Cartes vertes00:23:00 Cartes jaunes01:03:50 Cartes rouges01:07:10 Cartes Éros01:09:16 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.

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Starting point is 00:05:09 have learned on their place to Slyman. The celebrity is something that for long time even even
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Starting point is 00:05:23 chanteau, I wanted to be a because there are who are there before. For me, there's a great difference
Starting point is 00:05:28 between someone who likes the music, who likes to and the voice, who likes the sound, who aim the
Starting point is 00:05:35 writing, and be known. And in plus, at the time, when I was when I was when I was
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Starting point is 00:06:26 times, we're, I'm pretty very frank with that, there's a , you know, there's a,
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Starting point is 00:07:39 very well, I'm I'm content to be with you. I'm content to be in Quebec. It's cool. It's cool, the Quebec?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, it's my third time, it's my third for you. Oh, I'm a cut of care also. Franchement, I'm very well
Starting point is 00:07:52 I'm here. I'm going to tell you, because you're more habituated. All, I've got to have a
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Starting point is 00:09:37 I'm there's there's there not there is true? No, yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:09:45 well, it's, well, so I'm not not really. You're not to be on my own to
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Starting point is 00:11:28 So, on what trait of character, have you done to work? I've done it. I've worked on top. It's the love proper. Ah? Yeah. Not...
Starting point is 00:11:39 In fact, I've chosen to ask you this question, because it's a lot of other questions, but I was an infant very complex when I was little. and physically and on and on other things.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And, and the course, although I received so I've received a lot of my
Starting point is 00:11:54 family, of my parents and I'm, I've often I've always
Starting point is 00:11:57 the validation of the other, often have been to be moreoo, to be
Starting point is 00:12:03 in couple, and why, because you're two at that? When you you're not,
Starting point is 00:12:10 when you're not for the regard amourous to the other? No, it's, I think, to nourire something at
Starting point is 00:12:16 having the impression that the other has the faculty to geter something or to combly something and I'm as with the age
Starting point is 00:12:24 that it was it was to be to me to know to me to do that. And, and, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:32 I, I'm working on, I'm a part of what I'm what I'm merit to have. The regard
Starting point is 00:12:38 of the other, is that, is that is difficult to efface that, the
Starting point is 00:12:42 regard of the other? I think that when you're a very complex, it's a something that you're doing
Starting point is 00:12:47 a lot of your life. I've had had some I've got to very young. I'm very very emperine
Starting point is 00:12:54 also, what, but I'm effeminate when I'm when I'm when I'm and it's not
Starting point is 00:12:58 like this an open up a girl that would have done that that would have done with with the
Starting point is 00:13:06 fact that I'm that's a bit bizarre and and the and of the I think
Starting point is 00:13:11 I'm I'm I'm I'm trying a bit in searching like that by the valid
Starting point is 00:13:18 the validity, the validation of the other. And I think with the recule, with the age
Starting point is 00:13:24 and the time that's important, I think it's important to to be a first to this apaisement,
Starting point is 00:13:33 you know, to find the peace all without the to search to the other. Is it
Starting point is 00:13:38 is you consult for that? No. But I I'm a lot in question.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I've already consulted one or two a few but for being very frank there's a
Starting point is 00:13:50 one way it's not I'm not the impression that I'm there a lot of it's a
Starting point is 00:13:56 way it's and I have used the impression to have opened the door with this
Starting point is 00:14:01 person and that now I'd just to just to get in and
Starting point is 00:14:05 that's what I'm intimidated when you were intimidated? No, I'm
Starting point is 00:14:10 I don't, I don't have been a, I think not I've been having been a man to have,
Starting point is 00:14:17 quite, it's, it's me, it's, with me, in fact, I'm feeling different, I'm not
Starting point is 00:14:24 necessarily at my place, and, and, yeah, really, I think we're, I think we're in, I think,
Starting point is 00:14:31 we're in all the time, I don't know how we're, but I think that's a bit different physically,
Starting point is 00:14:38 And when we're a girl, we're a lot The difference The difference The Foyne, The problem of The Fee, and in fact
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Starting point is 00:14:56 when we're a little and we're a can't do the same games that all the guys can
Starting point is 00:15:02 play on one on one on the year, we physically we're more
Starting point is 00:15:07 a a girl because, I'm more I had a problem of gynecomasties when I
Starting point is 00:15:11 had a good. So I had the peck who had the peck that seemed more a big
Starting point is 00:15:18 a be able to a peck and I had all the time, I had really this thing that
Starting point is 00:15:25 physical to not me not me not to be sure not to be able
Starting point is 00:15:29 to be able to talk to to the end not, not, not,
Starting point is 00:15:33 not, I'm didn't not, But for being very frank, we were, in my family, we had all of problems of poe and all, so it was something that we lived all together.
Starting point is 00:15:44 In your own, you're in security. Yeah, well, yeah. There's person who's, no, yeah. But very rapidly, I think I did my first regime, I'd be in sixth-eem, in France, I'd have
Starting point is 00:15:55 10 or 11-on, yeah. Is that you remember what you've done like, yeah, I've done. Yeah, I've done, oh, la, la, there's one, where I was just a salad
Starting point is 00:16:03 with these tranche of dind, and what I'm I was I was, I was the night and the midi, I had a little portion of
Starting point is 00:16:12 like that, there's a little lot of people, and I'm trying to do you have always the food? No, because in fact,
Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm, it's for that, that's why I have made a very, that's been to be really to be conditionally,
Starting point is 00:16:26 psychologically, but I'm I've got that's not really the solution. And, and I
Starting point is 00:16:31 think that, in fact, it's in changing a bit, it's in working on on the
Starting point is 00:16:36 interior that's the exterior also evolved. Yeah, because in six-year when you said
Starting point is 00:16:40 you've had been a point in a moment, I imagine when you're, is that, is you feel more
Starting point is 00:16:45 than the other? No, I think you don't know, you're never more, you know, but you know, now I've
Starting point is 00:16:53 already, I've already, I've already to get to my time of my time. There's really
Starting point is 00:17:00 there's really when I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm I know my good size,
Starting point is 00:17:06 but it's it's a it's a time to because I'm going to be in a lot of and you know,
Starting point is 00:17:11 is that you can't be extensable? I'm not, really, because when I grow, I'm,
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, my, I'm, my, so,
Starting point is 00:17:22 and there, I'm, many, plenty of vatvent that's very very much, I can't
Starting point is 00:17:27 get to, for the same. And it's, what the difference that, when, there, there,
Starting point is 00:17:31 there, I imagine, that you'd , You don't, you want to you're not, no, I'm going to like, I'm just,
Starting point is 00:17:37 and how you feel before you know, what's going to what's, what's, what's the confidence, there's,
Starting point is 00:17:45 there's particular this time this this time, because it's the first time that I was put in the sport for, because
Starting point is 00:17:52 I've always did a little of sport and all in my life, but there I'm really made a lot,
Starting point is 00:17:57 and it's the first time that I'm my head than for my case, and it's the first
Starting point is 00:18:02 that's the first I think it's much that's that's the there's a there's a there's a
Starting point is 00:18:06 there's a there's a there's a and that's when we're in fact, when we do the thing,
Starting point is 00:18:12 it's not, I think that it's not that's that's that's whatever, but whatever
Starting point is 00:18:18 the situation or the thing, I think that all really of the interior of so
Starting point is 00:18:22 and a and a one of the part on the bad, I think after we can get to
Starting point is 00:18:27 it's interesting there's there's a difference when it's part of the head and not just
Starting point is 00:18:33 in the regard of one and you have done to you know, but it's for you're for a
Starting point is 00:18:37 way, so it's so so, so it's so, I'm going to question. Which is,
Starting point is 00:18:42 what, I've done a question, who has been to be a name some if you want,
Starting point is 00:18:47 I'm not well, well, I'm, uh, my family, my family with,
Starting point is 00:18:55 in the head to live, my mother. She's called, how, your mother? She's
Starting point is 00:18:59 called Zaya. Zaya. She has. And, I'm about her. It's a character My mother, it's a, it's an epi,
Starting point is 00:19:08 it's an epi fee of immigre Algerian who, I think surely if she had, perhaps,
Starting point is 00:19:18 if she had been made at an other time or or a other place in the
Starting point is 00:19:23 world, she would have had been maybe revolutioned the world. Oh.
Starting point is 00:19:29 She's a revolutionary, my mother. And what kind of of mare has been where there's the word?
Starting point is 00:19:35 The love. My mother, my mother, it's really, there's a word in the way that's
Starting point is 00:19:39 over us, it's the love, and also liber. She has she has taught,
Starting point is 00:19:46 she, she's, she's, she's, she's, to be that that is paradoxal,
Starting point is 00:19:52 you know, it's to have a man like that, and I've made a time
Starting point is 00:19:55 to try to find this face to other, while that my is all the contrary.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Like, she's all the whole of the world. She really, she has a capacity
Starting point is 00:20:05 to be to detach to the other which is quite impression. That's at what
Starting point is 00:20:10 I'm in the point. At what she was significant in your life?
Starting point is 00:20:15 At all the moment, at what she has she had made, I think she
Starting point is 00:20:19 she made the right to have the real real and I know that's
Starting point is 00:20:24 a card that's a that's a the world a. I don't an example, I don't
Starting point is 00:20:31 always this example because I, I think it's significant, but arriving 18 18 years, I'm my back, I have my
Starting point is 00:20:37 back, I have had these very good notes at the school, and I decided to the school for for the music.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And I think I'm one of my family, to have the back, really, really, not many cousins,
Starting point is 00:20:48 and she, and she had been to be me say, but no, it's absolutely that you continue. My
Starting point is 00:20:54 my for him, for him, it's not possible. Simon, he's not he has to be a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And my mother, she said, well, in very, there you're in doing, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:04 it's cool, well, I'm really, the only thing, I'm sure, so he's going to be happy, if he continues.
Starting point is 00:21:09 He will do what, he's not that he's not that's not the sort of choice. And is she did you're in
Starting point is 00:21:16 your course of chants? I suppose it had been to some, that's more, that's more that's my
Starting point is 00:21:20 part. Ah, yeah? Yeah, yeah, It's my father that I'd I'd I'm doing
Starting point is 00:21:23 in audition and all that but I'm not used there's not they've been never pushed to do the music
Starting point is 00:21:32 they've they've been they've accepted that I'm doing and I'm after I did the rest I've
Starting point is 00:21:40 not used yeah there's not you know you're going to do that so it's not to
Starting point is 00:21:46 not the music, not to it's good so time when you when your Your mother ,
Starting point is 00:21:50 her She's got in her reaction how she's now, now, now she's because she
Starting point is 00:21:56 has been avocene, my mother. Oh, your mother is a non-voyant? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:59 what, pretty because of diabetes. Oh, yeah. And she mean,
Starting point is 00:22:05 she's cool. And, no, I think she she's she's, but, but,
Starting point is 00:22:09 she's, she's, she's, she's she and in the same time, she's
Starting point is 00:22:12 she's a lot of the other and of the society and of all, yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:19 for her it's cool, but there's not this thing of wow or to, she, she, she,
Starting point is 00:22:27 she, she's she's being, as I'm fine, as I'm as I'm sure, it's fine, it's like,
Starting point is 00:22:34 and how she has, she's, to learn of that way, to be able, when it's a person,
Starting point is 00:22:40 really, but, no, well, I, well, I, I think there
Starting point is 00:22:44 there's, there's, there's there, but, she, she, she,
Starting point is 00:22:50 So, she's She's a Like she's Like she's It's a destiny That she'd And she And she'll
Starting point is 00:22:57 And she'll And she'll And then The point in the, like, She said, I'm content I'm glad to
Starting point is 00:23:06 I'm gonna be Because in real, there's really nothing that's in my bottle, I'm I'm in my I'm in
Starting point is 00:23:12 And then I'm And then I'm And then I'm With my And she's And she's And it's Rouserer in
Starting point is 00:23:18 same time? Because that it would it would it would be to attend that's the mother
Starting point is 00:23:22 if she's not a bit. It's not at times. The first when she she said, she's
Starting point is 00:23:28 with my friend or some of the thing that's it's a but the fact that she live well,
Starting point is 00:23:33 yeah, it's sure that it has a to relativize and now we're in we're gonna
Starting point is 00:23:39 do you do you know, is that you're saying? Yeah, in the life, there's a
Starting point is 00:23:43 life, there's a phrase, to start to recommence, which you can't be to be able to have an
Starting point is 00:23:54 new new things, to say, oh, to say, in the way, there's a very little phrase.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Niveiveau Okay. You will do that same thing. You can't be the back. You can,
Starting point is 00:24:06 yeah, it's a question. It's right? I'd probably I'd play with my
Starting point is 00:24:10 pot as I'm not we're not we're trying because we're you know there's a
Starting point is 00:24:15 year, there's a way, so you start with that. You can don't four.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You're you're four in fact. Four. Four. One two,
Starting point is 00:24:24 three, and four. I'm curious to know the signification of your tattoo, you're
Starting point is 00:24:29 kind of quite. Is they all a sense? Yeah, you want to tell you the,
Starting point is 00:24:35 the legals are the most, so I'm a, we can't have a one,
Starting point is 00:24:38 we're not, we're not, I'm like, the year, it's a many who made a can't,
Starting point is 00:24:44 and I'm And I would have said, with the canoes, I'm going to do with a tattooage. And as you are the angels of my life, I've made a plume, each one of them. So, there are for, for each one of the person. The sun and the moon, it's, it's, it's, it represents my coat, sombre and, ombr and, but also the coat of the gosse, it's the femininity. The moon, is the femininity, all what is the code emotion, etc.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And the sun is, plus the action, the coat masculine. and, and, it's always the other the other the way, it's always
Starting point is 00:25:19 you, sometimes you're more sun, and then you're more the same, yeah, I'm totally, I'm,
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'm totally the two. So, I'm doing the same thing, on the same that, you're on
Starting point is 00:25:29 one, and I'm one, okay. What are the keyches of the
Starting point is 00:25:33 celebrity? What's that the paternity you're when I see, when I'm
Starting point is 00:25:38 you're doing, you know, you're did it has been to not to get to
Starting point is 00:25:44 the most great difficult that you have to surmounted. So you have to be able to
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Starting point is 00:26:08 I'm a question that what's the what's the paternity tapport? Okay, perfect. Well, I
Starting point is 00:26:17 I think that I'd say not, or in the case to not to not really to make to feel to
Starting point is 00:26:24 her. And the at three and a three and a and a year at three and a but my
Starting point is 00:26:29 my son my wife my life. Really, in all the sense of the term. It's,
Starting point is 00:26:36 it's, she, she, she, she, she, she has been ,
Starting point is 00:26:41 she has, um, am sure , , she has rendered Fierre
Starting point is 00:26:47 Libre She was She made She made She made Even more Today, to see the
Starting point is 00:26:56 And at When you You've wanted To be Pair? I've always Vught Very young
Starting point is 00:27:04 I'm My grandmair She has My Grandmere, she has 18th So, so, my mother
Starting point is 00:27:09 is the 16th We're, I'm four, frere and sister. I've
Starting point is 00:27:16 always I've been in, in a place where the family had been a place.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And I was always, when I imagined more I was I was always with with the
Starting point is 00:27:28 time. And when she was you had been in your first time, what's
Starting point is 00:27:33 you're to be a little six when she's when she was made
Starting point is 00:27:37 she she was pre- she was pre- she and, of the
Starting point is 00:27:42 more, but it's very that the fear of she's in a bit to arrive
Starting point is 00:27:44 because she has been she's she's quite, she's she's and she
Starting point is 00:27:49 was a so I'm I'm, I'm a lot of her and when you,
Starting point is 00:27:55 when you had got you've got to she had put you've been
Starting point is 00:28:01 you've been to be to be to say yeah but in but I think
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'm we're probably we're we're what, in in
Starting point is 00:28:10 all will be that your when you're going to be all the love that you will be able to get to
Starting point is 00:28:16 there's a very sure, yeah, I'm in my time more, I'm in my my fee every day, it's
Starting point is 00:28:24 that's not it's not, by the how I'm having the love that I have felt like the first year,
Starting point is 00:28:30 it's like if the first year, it's a pushire by the day, and it's a connection
Starting point is 00:28:35 the end of yeah, yeah, it's, after, after, I've been, after,
Starting point is 00:28:39 my mother, and maybe that the people specialists of will be able to me say that's not bad, but my
Starting point is 00:28:46 wife, my wife, my life is my best more my friend, and, and,
Starting point is 00:28:51 and, and, I'm, I'm, because it's my share, but I love his
Starting point is 00:28:55 character, I'm what she's different, she defos, I'm his qualities, what,
Starting point is 00:29:01 all. You've started in saying, she's me saved the life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:04 In what she saved the life? Um, I think that being
Starting point is 00:29:11 been, I think she should be a true, for rest her in when she was
Starting point is 00:29:20 when she had been a, a responsibility which I think I had a
Starting point is 00:29:27 question, and, and yeah, every when I, where I, where I, who I,
Starting point is 00:29:36 I, when I, because we have all these moments I think, I'm in the life, or that, I don't know, that the life
Starting point is 00:29:43 was, I don't know, or that's not, my place on, on this earth, or what that's there, there's, there's a, in my face,
Starting point is 00:29:50 it's there, he can't be to be able to, and it's like, it's like, it's like, every time that every time that
Starting point is 00:29:58 night, it'd be, that'd be, a way, totally, and then, and in the responsibility also.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yeah, so, you can't, you can't, that, so, you can't, because,
Starting point is 00:30:09 I can't, because, like more than I love. So, I can't do you feel like or I can't let her
Starting point is 00:30:15 let her and I'm I'm doing more of her than I'm then I'm and then you can't
Starting point is 00:30:22 she's, she's, she has too, she has, she, she, she's, she's,
Starting point is 00:30:28 she's all the time, not in the sense, I, she, she, she has,
Starting point is 00:30:32 she has all the quality that I've wanted to have been she's very strong, she's a
Starting point is 00:30:37 capricorn, she, she, she's what, she's what, and in in the same time
Starting point is 00:30:43 they rest a ball of love but yeah it's a pretty life that has a lot of
Starting point is 00:30:50 character so you're happy oh yeah yeah the pleasure because you have
Starting point is 00:30:55 there's when you when you're parents young it comes like if it
Starting point is 00:31:00 represented something for you the notion of the family I imagine so
Starting point is 00:31:05 so it's at the heart after after after I'm I say
Starting point is 00:31:10 to even my my friends my friends I'm not to say, oh, it's a rebeye, no,
Starting point is 00:31:16 it's not because having an infant, it's a that's a that's a that's,
Starting point is 00:31:21 that's got to that you have to get it to get to your and I'm never had also fear
Starting point is 00:31:28 also of my life, fear of to get someone I'm it's, it's not
Starting point is 00:31:33 something that's something that is very very bad. Oh, we like the past, to have an to have a child
Starting point is 00:31:40 because you have been and you know, and is that you see that you know that's that's a little that's
Starting point is 00:31:46 that's a little yeah, we're saying, we're saying, we're saying, we're saying, we're saying, yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:53 it's the first that I'm that made conscious of my age, because I'm so I'm always
Starting point is 00:31:57 to be there the time that I'm trying to calculate, okay, when you're at time at age, when you're at
Starting point is 00:32:03 time at age, when you're at a year, I'm at the to have when she'll have been in order at a car,
Starting point is 00:32:06 in in the I'm in I'm in a question, that's the time can't have been a
Starting point is 00:32:13 real value. Oh, yeah, but I think it's effectively, the time, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:19 when I had been a first of my first, I was, I was, I was, the first
Starting point is 00:32:25 turbulence, I said, no, we can't we're not we're not more more,
Starting point is 00:32:28 you, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, there,
Starting point is 00:32:32 there's like, there, there's like a vigilance in the of the everyday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And, yeah, and there's this thing that of, I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 00:32:43 it's a line that visceral, which is an animal also, you're to be
Starting point is 00:32:48 to be in a person. Is you a pair protector? Yes, totally, but I'm
Starting point is 00:32:55 also partisan, I'm there's a fact, three years, but I let's
Starting point is 00:33:00 the possibility, like, if she she she'll relave not. She'll relave all. But,
Starting point is 00:33:06 yeah, it's her character. She's a character. She's not, she'll never, and she'll be, but my wife, she'll, here.
Starting point is 00:33:12 But I'm good, this sort of, I think, I don't know if I'm quite, but to be a
Starting point is 00:33:18 woman, it's hard. So I'm the idea that my wife's a woman strong.
Starting point is 00:33:24 In what, you think, is a woman? Um, um, Well, you know, we're I'll talk, I think,
Starting point is 00:33:33 that what's the reason when you're in a world that's not made for you, whatever you are, a woman or plenty of other things, to be back to all what's not created for you,
Starting point is 00:33:49 is to have his place, try to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, in a world that's
Starting point is 00:33:57 not a world that's not a I think that's difficult. Yeah, when the first time, I read Simon
Starting point is 00:34:04 de Beauvoir, I had 15 14, 15 and in reading her to get a woman, I was a
Starting point is 00:34:09 issue, I didn't know, just like that, you know, I've already at my marriage,
Starting point is 00:34:13 and there, I've got a packet of this moment that, I was sent to invest
Starting point is 00:34:18 of an mission of a treatment equal, to exige to not pilly
Starting point is 00:34:23 to the other, but to have my place and to not have the impression that's the place of someone else and it's the place
Starting point is 00:34:30 that's the place that I'm and to not have to have to have a difference based on my sex. It's like that it's non-negotiable
Starting point is 00:34:36 yeah, on the competence, on the experience, there's a packet of things that's different people, but not that,
Starting point is 00:34:42 and then, and then, and then, she's a fair assizes, so, so, there's not
Starting point is 00:34:47 there's also, there's a lot of there's a cushion, there's a question, yeah, it's for that, it's for that I'm,
Starting point is 00:34:54 I've learned also that your parents is to make a yearn't. I've accepted all the errors of my parents since I'm in because you're in
Starting point is 00:35:04 because you can't make a chance that you can do you can't be the peace with certain things, by example? Ah, but with
Starting point is 00:35:09 all, with all, because you're able to so. So, you're because you can't you know,
Starting point is 00:35:18 you're always, your wife, your life, your life, or you've got to know, you know, that's,
Starting point is 00:35:22 and then it's to be to peer and then you do with your you do with your arms
Starting point is 00:35:28 but you do you do not, you feel like, is that your parents? Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:35 to my mother, I've said I've said I've been, I've been there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:35:41 there's not there's I'm not but in that's for a parent it's, it's
Starting point is 00:35:46 does it can't your thing, because you want to you're, they're
Starting point is 00:35:50 they're I've got what I'm going to do what I'm going to ask you to ask you this question. What are the piage of the celebrity? The piage of the celebrity? Well, yes, because we're talking about to open your own, but you know, you've got to win your own. You know, you're saying, you're saying you're someone
Starting point is 00:36:07 who is known in Europe, who is known here, and we see when you're when you're known in Europe, it's an other level of celebrity of paparadus, or no, we don't know more. And it's in the same time, also, the grand, grand, the grand stade. You know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:21 there's something of grandiose to be known in Europe. I'm not the pagege, but I'd say, my,
Starting point is 00:36:30 the celebrity, is something that's something that's a very long time, even even even even already,
Starting point is 00:36:37 it's something that's a lot. When I was when I was being a chanteer, I'd not be a
Starting point is 00:36:43 because there are some who are people who want, there's a different for me,
Starting point is 00:36:46 there's a great difference, and someone who likes to who like the voice,
Starting point is 00:36:51 who like the sound, that's the word, and be known. And in
Starting point is 00:36:56 plus, at the time, when I was, when I'm when I'm that's
Starting point is 00:37:00 that would be what it would say what it would be respected as I
Starting point is 00:37:05 think more, I think, there was this this trick of the radio,
Starting point is 00:37:11 this thing of information that's going to get and and and
Starting point is 00:37:14 and today I'm impression that that that people, many, people,
Starting point is 00:37:21 people, people, people, see the celebrity like a real of a real thing,
Starting point is 00:37:26 I'm a cut pre to my head, something that something that has been
Starting point is 00:37:31 a lot of rapport human who, who, yeah, who, who,
Starting point is 00:37:38 he, a form of celebrity, a form of a liberty, and there there's plenty
Starting point is 00:37:43 of times, we're, I'm pretty frank with that, there, there, or if we had said,
Starting point is 00:37:48 well, there you have a baguette magic, if you could return in rear, what's the
Starting point is 00:37:53 thing, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm saying, well, I'm saying, well,
Starting point is 00:37:58 I don't know if I would say, I'll come because I think that, this celebrity and this manniquity,
Starting point is 00:38:07 in fact, we're in a world that's a mann't, and to be And when you become celibre,
Starting point is 00:38:14 all around to you, it's deshumanize and little a pete, and guard these moments
Starting point is 00:38:21 of the verity, of exchange real with the people, it's hard. I'd say the celebrity,
Starting point is 00:38:30 but not that's the celebrity and the money. I'd just to talk
Starting point is 00:38:33 to talk of the because the celebrity came with the money. Is
Starting point is 00:38:36 is that that that that changes the that the people? Not that. There's a
Starting point is 00:38:41 There's also, I think there's people who are now who are who are in view to be known for us what I'm,
Starting point is 00:38:46 I don't know I'm, I'm, I don't, I'm sure that I'm that's not a bit too for that.
Starting point is 00:38:55 No, but you know, because you know, I think, I think I'm saying I'm going to
Starting point is 00:38:59 be known, he's not what, it's not the price to pay. Exactly. And so, and so,
Starting point is 00:39:04 and so, and so, and there are the money, I'm I'm I had to money
Starting point is 00:39:09 all the life. So, I've started to work, I'm in a lot of
Starting point is 00:39:11 I'm in a lot of a lot for the real, and I'm and I'm when it's
Starting point is 00:39:20 a man, when it's a life, I know at a difficult, and in the same
Starting point is 00:39:25 time, and I know, but I'm, I think, the moments where I had the
Starting point is 00:39:32 most happy, when I'm when I'm because you were the liberal? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah, because, yes, it's hard. It's hard for you've got to work. You have to find out. You've got to discover every month. After, a day, your card blue has passed no, so you demand to your pot. But, in fact, it's not more euro or less than I don't. I don't say that. But in any case, the moments where I've had these exchanges human, the more profound, the more true, the most beau, it was, it was, when I had not an money. Have you the impression
Starting point is 00:40:09 that the statue of celebrity and the money is a fact that you're a little different with the people and they're
Starting point is 00:40:16 different there's like for him it's more for him Yeah, yeah, so it's human
Starting point is 00:40:22 So, before you before you were, when you were when you had your discussion,
Starting point is 00:40:27 you're not out, you're not, but what's that's that I'm thinking more I'm not
Starting point is 00:40:32 that's that's been that's not I'm trying, but why you're doing that I'm in that's
Starting point is 00:40:37 will say, but he has been the money, he's got to be because I've been a lot of that I'm
Starting point is 00:40:42 going to be able to that's a that means, I'm going to I'm, I'm saying, I'm, I'm in without me
Starting point is 00:40:49 to make in the I'm, because I'm, because I, I'm, I've said, I've had 27 years, I have
Starting point is 00:40:56 not 18 or what, you know, I had already did all the I've done, I've just, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:01 I've just, you know, I'm just, you know, because you pay you don't, yeah, because you're,
Starting point is 00:41:04 you haven't, A good note of credit, no. And so, so, I have really, what, I have really
Starting point is 00:41:12 this instant there, of poor, in real. And, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:41:18 and, I'm still, like, like, I'm not, but, I'm not, and,
Starting point is 00:41:24 God, thank, and... At what you've got, you've got to come,
Starting point is 00:41:27 you're what, the difference in your thing, okay, there, I,
Starting point is 00:41:30 there, the first, the first thing, is, is to get to get, ,
Starting point is 00:41:34 And that, when I did I was the most Fierre in the world It was something of very, very, very important for me. How much they How did they're
Starting point is 00:41:43 How much? They were They were I think they were Fierre And, and certainly, it had
Starting point is 00:41:49 to have been this fear that I think when you, when you live without a family with
Starting point is 00:41:57 a lot of a family with many and you have always that's maybe a
Starting point is 00:42:01 day, maybe a day, you know, it's and then to the top of our top of the top of the head, you know, and it's a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:06 it's a lot of, it's always you've been appeased the spirit. You're fired of that? That, yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:42:14 so, so, so the money has served as that. Yeah. So, so it's the sense that you
Starting point is 00:42:18 don't, to your depends, what's, what you do? Yeah, yeah, but,
Starting point is 00:42:25 by example, I think that, in some time, I'm remit so, I'm not quite, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:42:29 I'm, I don't, to have some of the association and all, it's a but there, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:42:36 well, in fact, I've had all the thing to get the house to my parents, I'm
Starting point is 00:42:40 my house to now. Now, I know that to find a sense, I think that,
Starting point is 00:42:47 I think, I think, I think I've been to find a to do that, I've realized my
Starting point is 00:42:51 life of all, and I think that if I think not very rapidly a sense to this life there,
Starting point is 00:42:57 then it will be that I've me play for very long to be to be able to be able to
Starting point is 00:43:03 be able to do my feel like to see it's not for a bit more more than more.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Is there a culpability that comes with to have the money? There's a culpability that comes
Starting point is 00:43:17 with all with the fact of my job like my job, I've evolved,
Starting point is 00:43:23 I've grandied with other artists who are as far more, more
Starting point is 00:43:28 more more more, perhaps. and who have not had been the chance to have the career
Starting point is 00:43:31 that's a real thing for me it's been difficult and then and then there's a
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'd say not a culpability because there's a lot of work and it's really the work
Starting point is 00:43:43 and it's really people are not obliged to ask these questions but I'm at a
Starting point is 00:43:50 stage where I'm I'm saying that it can't I'm I'm to find
Starting point is 00:43:56 something to make something to have to concrete, where I mean I mean that all these years have
Starting point is 00:44:03 also served to help in other people than I would have a foundation you could have a foundation a big idea?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah, that, I don't know, I think, I think of those orphelans, by example, I'd rather be able to
Starting point is 00:44:15 do a thing for them. I know in Morocco, in Algeria, and all that, there are there are some
Starting point is 00:44:24 there's, I think that in not very long I'll have to be in I'll attend to finish this year because I have a lot of work
Starting point is 00:44:31 this year, but just after I think that I'm in the matter. You have the need to be able to that, you have the
Starting point is 00:44:35 need to be able to the truth, I have a need to and I have been in some years when I would be in the year,
Starting point is 00:44:47 to be there. presentment, of what are you're fired? Of my my fee. I'm sure I'm
Starting point is 00:44:58 I'm Fierre The link That I've created with the people who I'm I'm sure
Starting point is 00:45:04 the link that my music can create between the people I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:45:10 I'm I'm Yeah, I'm I'm there was there was there
Starting point is 00:45:15 there a little a little man of a little bad in his to be
Starting point is 00:45:22 to be to be to be that I'm I'm so I'm very Fierre because it's a lot of a particularity
Starting point is 00:45:28 I think you're also as a artist you seem really like to share the scene. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:45:33 even in a spectacle you let's be able to place to your chorus, to be a musician, it's like a
Starting point is 00:45:38 group practically at a certain moment, and also you let's, we can think at Vita, who has
Starting point is 00:45:43 one of your amy, the Anne-Fabian who is known, obviously, and plenty of for you,
Starting point is 00:45:48 it's important that, to partage the scene, to partage the voice? I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:45:54 I've commenced to the music with the choral. So yeah, for me
Starting point is 00:45:58 it's normal to chant with the people, the harmonies and all that.
Starting point is 00:46:04 The music at part the point the moment of the I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:46:08 maybe be sort of in some moment that. I'm to be in
Starting point is 00:46:14 my view, I'm want to talk what I'm want to but
Starting point is 00:46:16 the moment of music, of chant, even of creation musical
Starting point is 00:46:22 I mean to be accompanied, I'm with people, I think it's something that something that's
Starting point is 00:46:27 something that's something to be a in the music. In fact, I don't know if it's not if it's
Starting point is 00:46:34 really, but I'm not too ego in the music that means that I'm so much
Starting point is 00:46:38 I'm really with the artist that's an ego for the product final
Starting point is 00:46:42 in the for the for the having the song in the song in
Starting point is 00:46:46 yeah and I'm I'm I'm compare never to
Starting point is 00:46:50 other artists It's that I mean that I can't be at the other artist without me You know my You know your valor Yeah,
Starting point is 00:46:57 it's even not a like a value plus or more It's that I'm sure that's being a good artist is being and that's
Starting point is 00:47:04 and that I'm so that would that's the I'd say that there'd be a fan of family I'm the best I'm the best
Starting point is 00:47:12 I'm I'm not I'm at I'm at I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 00:47:21 I'm not in the jealousy, I'm not in the envy. You're not in the performance. You do what you have to do? You're not more performing. You're what you're what you're. Yeah, but by the point, I'm what I'm what.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It's what I mean, that if I'm going to be chanting with someone, I don't know, who's less in the voice and all than I, well, I'm going to stay in what I'm having to
Starting point is 00:47:42 because, again, because, again, for me, in fact, we're each different and we have to bring what we're, and it's the
Starting point is 00:47:50 the mix of the two that's the that's the thing that's so I'm making to see that I'm trying
Starting point is 00:47:55 because I'm really, I'm in the comparison, I'm not in, and I'm, when I'm when I'm
Starting point is 00:48:00 a artist brilled, um, in fact, I'm afraid that I'm so I'm so I'm sure,
Starting point is 00:48:06 for you know, that's why I'm for the other. But that's a force. Yeah, but it can't be young
Starting point is 00:48:11 in your life, there's, you know, that's the carl of their life, to have this having their
Starting point is 00:48:16 capacity, yeah, is there someone with who you dreamt to chant? There are plenty.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Selin June I've always said I'm sure do you know What's you'd write with
Starting point is 00:48:28 Céline? I'd write a song and that and you would be to sing
Starting point is 00:48:33 with her Oh yeah my grave, no, but if you should
Starting point is 00:48:38 if you should be not, I don't, so I know, because my mother
Starting point is 00:48:43 she, because my mother, her her had My dad, she had 27 and her sister, she had 25 years
Starting point is 00:48:50 so like that. So, it was very close. And the album of Céline had been sort, I think, a little
Starting point is 00:48:56 at the same period. And she was she was in book, the vol, and it's a song that's
Starting point is 00:49:01 a song that really, in the funerale. Ah, yeah? Vole, it's like a little
Starting point is 00:49:07 for letting, let's part to the other. So Celyne would be in the Tate of Liss? Yeah, Celyne,
Starting point is 00:49:14 and if Whitney, she would be Whitney, Euston. Oh, Is she has been influential for
Starting point is 00:49:18 you? Whitney Houston in fact it's very bizarre, it's very very influential. In so
Starting point is 00:49:23 moment I'm I'm in book on the whole of it fascine, I'm trying to try to try to get
Starting point is 00:49:29 to get to learn, I'm trying to I'm trying to continue to try to to learn, to try to
Starting point is 00:49:35 and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna listen I'm
Starting point is 00:49:40 more of songs French, I'm and I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm a
Starting point is 00:49:45 I'm a little in book sure of it in a while. What's what you reprendry in his
Starting point is 00:49:49 repertoire? Oh, well, there's a plan. Maybe I have nothing or, or is not
Starting point is 00:49:57 right, but it's okay. I adore that. Oh, yeah, but more rhythmic
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's good, so. Yeah, is there
Starting point is 00:50:04 a fair in a spectacle? I'm and the only it's, it's a
Starting point is 00:50:07 lot, but, but, but, in the case would be a
Starting point is 00:50:12 surprise inatt Is what I like particularly more than these songs? It's really the work of the voice, what she does, what she does with her voice,
Starting point is 00:50:22 her placement. Well, I'm not in the truth of but I'm very much. But, you know, at the time, there were Whitney Houston, Celine Dion,
Starting point is 00:50:28 and Maria Carey. Yeah. It's really the three divas that are probably at the moment. Maybe Whitney a little before,
Starting point is 00:50:36 but there had something, and there, all the world would be to be chanteous to be because the three
Starting point is 00:50:41 these capacity vocal, but, I'm for Whitney, it's terminated to be in
Starting point is 00:50:47 to talk about, you know, your name to be able to be very intimate. It's, it's a fact that
Starting point is 00:50:54 in the state of the story, you've been in the question, I think we're
Starting point is 00:50:58 that we're that's it's the hard, the more difficult to write for me, already,
Starting point is 00:51:07 for being very frank, I had not I didn't especially want to to make an album
Starting point is 00:51:12 all right I'm I'm going to I'm still I'm going to get a little and I'm and there's
Starting point is 00:51:22 a force to talk with my team I think they have a moment that I'm to have a not a blockage
Starting point is 00:51:30 but really put too want to do the music and they don't to me but return just
Starting point is 00:51:35 in studio what, because I'm I'm always never normally to do the music and
Starting point is 00:51:40 and we're returning, and we're starting to to write to have a one of the song,
Starting point is 00:51:47 it's like it's a that I'm that I'm that's not an album that's not a
Starting point is 00:51:55 show and the good humor it's been a kind of an accouement a little difficult, but at
Starting point is 00:52:02 final I think it's my more beautiful baby, in the musical, so I'm
Starting point is 00:52:06 the most personal also? Totally, yeah. What's what it's what do you have to be
Starting point is 00:52:11 like that? Because you have like done to those others recently when you're talking to you talk to
Starting point is 00:52:19 you talk to you talk to you talk to you know bizarrely when I'm when I do I do you
Starting point is 00:52:26 do it's not for the other what just it's just once it's just that I'm just because after that you
Starting point is 00:52:33 do you do the job the first the first the first you're I'm a yeah it's
Starting point is 00:52:38 so you're a writer so you and and no what's you're fabulous in the music, it's that,
Starting point is 00:52:41 it's that, it's that, it's that it's it's not, you're to find out at what we
Starting point is 00:52:48 have all, our pardombr, we have all our fay, we have all our fears, and we have all this
Starting point is 00:52:57 need to be and of a one of a whole whole that you think, it's very intimate, very personal, in fact,
Starting point is 00:53:05 it becomes something that, that that's to make part of a group,
Starting point is 00:53:12 something that you, that's a way, you're in fact you're in fact, you're in that's what,
Starting point is 00:53:18 it's what, that's what you're doing, it's a album, I think, he's probably about people, and when I
Starting point is 00:53:26 know, this song that I'm going to be to my mother, or I'm to have been
Starting point is 00:53:31 to my friend, or that it's, it's not because I didn't, I'd
Starting point is 00:53:35 never to be to be to be I mean, it's some that's the
Starting point is 00:53:40 whole time we're talking to talk about the celebrity but now I'm nuanced because
Starting point is 00:53:44 because this line that I think at the first of my career I'm
Starting point is 00:53:51 not too and there and there I'm more I'm really of each
Starting point is 00:53:57 little history in the great story and it and it can
Starting point is 00:54:01 be my songs can have they can be a life of the life of the
Starting point is 00:54:07 other and that it's the more beautiful of the people. And perhaps that's that
Starting point is 00:54:14 that's that that's what that I'm that I'm that's that's a way to have this macket
Starting point is 00:54:19 is to be that, we don't we'll not if, we're not we're but I'm
Starting point is 00:54:26 think we're to be to be much to be too much when you do that because there
Starting point is 00:54:31 people, there are people who are people, they're not past at the act.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Typically, I've received, I've done a song that's called like a an o'asoe in my album who's that,
Starting point is 00:54:41 and the, and the, what I've received like, but it's even not these messages I've received, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:48 I mean, and, and, they've been bulverced. Is it? I'm impressed that album,
Starting point is 00:54:55 that's a album, that's a rebond, in the case, it's, in the maybe,
Starting point is 00:54:59 the idea, to be the It's more maybe a state of the year after all
Starting point is 00:55:09 the first of the album it's about the time it's so what's what is what he
Starting point is 00:55:14 rest after the and what she has had at the and and it's
Starting point is 00:55:20 that this album that it's okay all to all over all over
Starting point is 00:55:26 all all over but now we look what you have We try to repair what he's
Starting point is 00:55:31 casse and, and, and, maybe we're trying to pardon what he has to pardoned
Starting point is 00:55:39 in the two sense. In all case, it's just the envy, maybe, yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:46 the envy to have a point of your view, there's like an avant, an after?
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah, totally, I think. And the after seems, I'm, I'm the impression
Starting point is 00:55:57 that you don't know, Is it can't that's there's a something that's going to goffled
Starting point is 00:56:01 or I see not, and there, we're that you get to to come in to you
Starting point is 00:56:06 to come in to your essence? I don't know, I think in the life, there's a
Starting point is 00:56:12 thing, because I had had the impression at a moment of being in the
Starting point is 00:56:16 life, there a thing is a animal that's that it obliges
Starting point is 00:56:20 a to have to have to have the things true. But,
Starting point is 00:56:23 but it like I think it will have been to be time for plenty of
Starting point is 00:56:29 things. I think when, I'm, yeah, it's like if it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:56:37 in a apartment that many of that I'm that you're running, but in the time I'm
Starting point is 00:56:41 again, I'm going to yeah, yeah, it's a little, that's, it's a
Starting point is 00:56:47 little bit more, that we're to make the time, so I'm in trying to arrange the house,
Starting point is 00:56:52 I'm doing, I'm doing, sometimes, we've seen some, we've been a chance, it's
Starting point is 00:56:56 more difficult, and when we're we're going to do you re-leven in facing face.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah. And I'm the impression that you're in a question, in the case, you're in a lot,
Starting point is 00:57:07 you've seen that's that I've suede an line, it's always in the vulnerability,
Starting point is 00:57:12 that we will suede some with the other my mother, I'm never been
Starting point is 00:57:16 too close, I think, of my community than now. And I don't
Starting point is 00:57:20 and they they're not to get at what they've got something at what,
Starting point is 00:57:27 at At what he count. And what I said, not very long on my resorts, but today, my chifres, it's more than the long time, I'm not, when the chif, when you said,
Starting point is 00:57:40 well, yeah, it's cool, and even the people, they'd say, but you're even not content and all, because I'd probably a little with your recule. And today, an album, it's an album,
Starting point is 00:57:51 but, again, not for the money. It's because... It's someone who has chosen. It's a guy who has chosen. Yeah, is someone who has chosen my music, in all the case. in this album
Starting point is 00:57:58 because, well, you just just opened the door to come to go to go to you're in
Starting point is 00:58:06 like a little like a like a and I'm sorry if it's it's not when you're when you're
Starting point is 00:58:11 when you're not the song there's not you're the not you're not not you're
Starting point is 00:58:18 I'm saying I'm saying I'm I'm saying I'm just I'm I'm really when you're
Starting point is 00:58:23 there's there's not the part of this of this song that. Is that
Starting point is 00:58:27 you've wanted to have wanted to have to have done in your words?
Starting point is 00:58:34 There are there there's a question in fact when we're in a state
Starting point is 00:58:40 a bit a traumatic, I don't if it's I'm not if it's when we
Starting point is 00:58:47 when we when we when we when we when we when we have there a
Starting point is 00:58:51 moment we have more, we have we're also a bit more the, the,
Starting point is 00:58:59 the, the, the, the, the, of the, the, of all the, even,
Starting point is 00:59:04 all these capacities cerebral, or even of, of, of, of,
Starting point is 00:59:10 and it's where I'm, my fee, she, she, she, she, she,
Starting point is 00:59:15 she, she, to, say, that I'd , say, I'd be,
Starting point is 00:59:20 I'd I think that it would have to be a lot of people who are in at this point that, so I'd say not that,
Starting point is 00:59:28 but by the point, to say that in a moment don't know, you're seeing a little fatigue emotional and do you know, that's a whole
Starting point is 00:59:36 you'd say that that's better when you doors. You know, there's this thing that, this thing, to doormire.
Starting point is 00:59:44 There's a moment of my life where I'd maybe 18 hours or in the day, I'd be on
Starting point is 00:59:49 my beded in my and I'd And that's where you you have the impression that when you turn the
Starting point is 00:59:55 eyes, it's more, you'd pose the question a little. It's the first time that you live at that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I'm like to one. I think, I think, very very far. And I think that's a
Starting point is 01:00:10 total of plenty of things, of the fatigue also. I've enchained for 10 years,
Starting point is 01:00:15 a but, you know, who has all the time all pretty, I think that's really very fatigued. And,
Starting point is 01:00:23 and, and, yeah, I never, but I said, the last, the song, I said,
Starting point is 01:00:29 it's not not the other. Because for me, it was impossible that it was a day a day to,
Starting point is 01:00:34 because I thought that it was a thing, it's not a thing that that's a thing that,
Starting point is 01:00:38 quite, I'm, I'm, dark, nostalgic, all the, but, but really,
Starting point is 01:00:43 I'm a, I'm a person I'm not necessarily the life. And it's for that I'm saying in this song and also I'm a because we have
Starting point is 01:00:51 the impression that we're that we're you know, it's hard to say to a plenty of people who
Starting point is 01:01:00 there, I'm not, and perhaps you've got not you've been you've been you've got to have been
Starting point is 01:01:05 but you've but I think that the fact of the fact of the power to be the thing to
Starting point is 01:01:11 it's it's too that, I don't know. The fact of having said that's to say that
Starting point is 01:01:19 it's just to say that if I'm in the end up there. But, yeah, so reconnected, in the
Starting point is 01:01:27 at this moment a little of fatigue, because I call it really a sign fatigue, it's
Starting point is 01:01:36 it may also to me to be saying, well, you're passing to say to have a great tempete.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah. Is that the The writing in the album has been therapeutic for you?
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah, yeah, totally. It's for that it's that's different because it's never
Starting point is 01:01:51 agreeable to be in the face of the way to try and to be able to try to and try to and it's
Starting point is 01:01:56 to be but it's the music who's like that you do you say what you have to
Starting point is 01:02:03 consultate I'm I've already I've already I've been maybe a more than than a lot
Starting point is 01:02:07 than other people, and it's not because I'm not because I'm the chance
Starting point is 01:02:11 to have the music and the music and that's to conscientize to bring to recl
Starting point is 01:02:18 to understand certain things on me. Is this this episode that has also that you're
Starting point is 01:02:23 rapproached to your people, you know, of those who count? Very bizarrely,
Starting point is 01:02:30 there are with which I'm really, really, really, really, and there are other with
Starting point is 01:02:33 I'm a little awayed, I'm a I think because, sometimes you have
Starting point is 01:02:38 accept also that when we we're very very far. I think we can't
Starting point is 01:02:45 be a lot to be there. I think the people are there when they are there when they're
Starting point is 01:02:50 there when they're there everyone has the right to be a mal, you
Starting point is 01:02:57 know, I really I want to everyone, I don't have to all the people who have been
Starting point is 01:03:03 there, even, who have been doing in one of some of the songs, that we've made
Starting point is 01:03:08 the oil on the food on, all that, uh, sincerely, I don't want to
Starting point is 01:03:11 because I understand too, the person human, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm I'm, I'm can't have,
Starting point is 01:03:16 uh, I'm in view, I'm in view, I'm trying to, I'm different, I'm, I think the, the thing that's
Starting point is 01:03:23 that's, it's, uh, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, uh, to,
Starting point is 01:03:29 never, to, to never, to try to try to to try to, but, but, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:34 the, even the, um, , not but who who don't who don't
Starting point is 01:03:41 who don't in the I don't because I'm sure that's there's quite I'm sure I'm not
Starting point is 01:03:46 and it's not great we're not our friends who's our people a friend it's
Starting point is 01:03:52 it's a it's enough but it's I'm not what I'm in the in this album that
Starting point is 01:03:58 it's there you're there you're question that's the question middle so that we're
Starting point is 01:04:03 past that's pretty much Go, go ahead. You've got to go to see my brother. No,
Starting point is 01:04:10 but it's because you've talked to the writing, and there's a question, in the fact,
Starting point is 01:04:16 because I really, I've really really used many people the words of your songs,
Starting point is 01:04:20 and I said, it's a story, it's a recit that's an autobiographic, and it's
Starting point is 01:04:27 beau. It's beautiful. It's beautiful, but it's because it's the vulnerability,
Starting point is 01:04:31 it's, you know, when you when you say tantos, it's universal, it's not universal you say,
Starting point is 01:04:37 it's not humanitar I'm just a word of the term that's used, but in fact it's all the world it's what you have lived,
Starting point is 01:04:44 we've lived in different different ways, but there are there's a moment where we
Starting point is 01:04:50 do find, I'm what I call my my Pyton reset. You know, sometimes it's there's things difficult,
Starting point is 01:04:55 there's a there's there's a time to find to see, and at a moment of a moment
Starting point is 01:04:59 of the moment of we're the album to the album of the remonted. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:04 So, so, the level Roof, that's the level You're not a single question you're on
Starting point is 01:05:10 a few question. You can't and I'm a question. And then I'm a whole question. I said, it's a
Starting point is 01:05:16 question. But is that it is that now? It's very good. Have you
Starting point is 01:05:21 regrets? Have you had you have been to do have been to do what?
Starting point is 01:05:29 Wow. Um, um, I'm not the three are interesting. If I let's say I'll let's choose. No, no, I'll let's, you're the invite.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You choose. Have you, have you already have been to do you? I'll change a little bit of a question if you can't
Starting point is 01:06:08 be able to. Certain is your game. When we say all right, we have an impression that there's a thing material,
Starting point is 01:06:12 a thing, but I'm not that I've had been a bit to have been, there's a moment to know where really,
Starting point is 01:06:18 I've had I had been the artist that I had been I relayed the music
Starting point is 01:06:27 to that's the thing that's that I'm that I'm going to I'm not
Starting point is 01:06:34 going to go to go to I'm a but I'm a but I'm a very,
Starting point is 01:06:40 I'm not my music is something I'm I'm used because I'm my world
Starting point is 01:06:46 because of it's an impute Yeah, it's a real part of me And I've had And I've got to To pay that at a moment
Starting point is 01:06:54 And And And that, it's a lot Because I've Like, Yeah, Like if
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah, Like, We're gonna be A part of me And, And, And even And even even
Starting point is 01:07:08 And even Again I'm, I'm not The Slimann Yeah, Yeah, And he's
Starting point is 01:07:16 And, He's, He's, He's, he's, and, of and who
Starting point is 01:07:20 today I nuance more more my rapport to the music and maybe that's very, maybe that
Starting point is 01:07:26 finally it's the new it's more a more but sometimes sometimes there's like
Starting point is 01:07:33 something that something that's a not a but it's like it's like it's a
Starting point is 01:07:41 grand fire and and today it's a thing I have to have to
Starting point is 01:07:45 have to I have to have been it's It's You've understood
Starting point is 01:07:50 on your foot. Yeah. So, it's the flame Olympic, it's not,
Starting point is 01:07:55 it's not it's not yeah, so. So it's a fragilised something in you know,
Starting point is 01:07:59 yeah, and in the time it has done a value. Because a grand fire,
Starting point is 01:08:06 we know, we're not a pair that's it can't, it's not we're not attention,
Starting point is 01:08:09 so, so that a little flame, we're we're still, if it's
Starting point is 01:08:13 she'll still if it's there's we're we're we're that I think
Starting point is 01:08:18 it's not a good that's not a good thing it's not that's just that's it's a
Starting point is 01:08:23 little to give a value and the same of the level RAS and company
Starting point is 01:08:27 you know you're you're you're you're three you're three
Starting point is 01:08:32 one one ballet tack and that so yeah what
Starting point is 01:08:37 that kind of you to what resound the grand
Starting point is 01:08:42 amour to the And what's you would have to be able to have to be able to
Starting point is 01:08:46 say to you're able to ask you? Um, that's there. So, how resemble the
Starting point is 01:08:57 grand amour to your eyes? Um, I, I think, I think profoundly,
Starting point is 01:09:05 more and plus that the grand am sure, it's with we're in we're in to what we
Starting point is 01:09:10 say, but it's for that I chose this card. Um, I think the most
Starting point is 01:09:15 be a real I think you make a that you do in the person to do you
Starting point is 01:09:21 to the plus give to be the person to reprend, it's you to do you to make the attention,
Starting point is 01:09:27 it's you who's never abandoning, it's you and it's that I'm that I'm content and it's the
Starting point is 01:09:36 work that I'm in this moment, it's that I'm my best amourous. And there
Starting point is 01:09:42 you're in your in your steps? With me With me? With you You're
Starting point is 01:09:47 Where you? No, We're doing We're doing, No, we're I've made Pretty mean, it's well past
Starting point is 01:09:54 And we're And we're And it's over And it's Yeah When you When you're You know,
Starting point is 01:10:02 You know, Like, You're like, You're Fierre Of the You're In the
Starting point is 01:10:07 Spheres In the different Spheres? Yeah, There's plenty Of course I'm more
Starting point is 01:10:12 Fier, there's I'm going to change, that I want to change, but I'm, but I'm, I'm sure. I'm sure, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm sure, I'm, I'm
Starting point is 01:10:21 I'm sure, I'm the father that I'm that I'm, to be the father that I'm and to be the friend that I'm, that's a, it's a,
Starting point is 01:10:29 it's a lot, yeah, yeah. The question opto-or-rezo. What do you do you know, to do the chapter actual of your life? Oh, la.
Starting point is 01:10:40 A non? Enchanted. It's beautiful? You didn't not say that you had two years.
Starting point is 01:10:50 No, enchanted in the sense Hello, enchanted. Oh, I think it was an period
Starting point is 01:10:55 enchanted, so enchanted. Yeah. Because you were at the other? Because
Starting point is 01:11:02 I was at the the and that I'm at the other in being in being you?
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah. Is it more true than? That's, I'm not more than before.
Starting point is 01:11:14 You're more transparent? No, even not. I'm what I'm, in fact, I've always been what I'm, I'm trying to be,
Starting point is 01:11:22 I'm sure, of what I'm to be able to be able to be able to in the last years. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:11:28 it's just I'm, I'm, you're like, you're like more more of your essence?
Starting point is 01:11:34 Yeah, in fact, it's that, I never meant in the sense where I've really at
Starting point is 01:11:39 maximum, I've always raconteed plenty of things in my songs and I'm at my but I'm at
Starting point is 01:11:43 my vision to my own, to make sure. Yeah. And it's just that my vision maybe that's aggranded,
Starting point is 01:11:48 it's all. So, you're enchanted to you're enchanted to you want to be to be there. And what
Starting point is 01:11:54 we can be you want to be the next year, to come to be plenty of to be able to be able to
Starting point is 01:12:01 be on the long time. What's, what's the thing, what's what's what it
Starting point is 01:12:04 for you? The scene has always been my moment of liberty. The moment
Starting point is 01:12:12 I said, I said, I'm sorry, I'm afraid to pass for someone that's but it's
Starting point is 01:12:17 in the sense where I I'm at least what, it's the moment I know, I know what I know what I
Starting point is 01:12:23 know what I'm my music that's me make sure to be totally free. To, to be
Starting point is 01:12:32 to put to yeah, yeah, it's a It's a little like if you have some like if you had some power magic
Starting point is 01:12:40 to be in the same you're just you're going to you're going to in the past, you go to the future and you see. And you see,
Starting point is 01:12:51 it's being a form of super hero. The people who chant your people who are, yeah, that's fabulous. But it's really
Starting point is 01:12:57 this thing that I don't, I don't know of the time that's we're we're nil part of other
Starting point is 01:13:04 than at this present, on a second scene. One of your more your more
Starting point is 01:13:09 your own your own to the same the same? The scene of the Eurovision can't
Starting point is 01:13:14 something. Tell us how it that's past. It was super stressful and it's
Starting point is 01:13:19 super stressful, and what is very bizarre, you know, is that God, or the
Starting point is 01:13:26 life or or so on what we know, has made a good to say, I'm not
Starting point is 01:13:31 to say, I'm I'm sure, I'm art in my music. And in fact, the day where I do chant, I don't know how many, a million of people, but I think it's really
Starting point is 01:13:40 very much. But there's a Super Bowl, and there's a lot of years. I'm I'm going to have. But when I say, more of voice, it's been to say, at this point there, it may be perhaps, I'm going to, I'm probably, really. And, uh, and,
Starting point is 01:13:55 and, uh, and, uh, I'm I'm going to, well, how I'm I like my song, she'll demand because of vocal, and et cetera, I'm a coach vocal that I know very good, I'm
Starting point is 01:14:06 saying I'm not I'm saying, I'm saying, and I'm saying, he's like, he makes, they're doing, he'd help,
Starting point is 01:14:12 he'd help, he'd be able to, but at but at least, my song had started like that, I don't know, if all the
Starting point is 01:14:21 notes are going start, and do so, I view each note like something of, okay, that's it, that's passed,
Starting point is 01:14:28 that's passed, It's the next step. He's there. And, and, and, it was, it's,
Starting point is 01:14:34 it's, it's a, a, a, one of, a, way, that,
Starting point is 01:14:39 that, the, that, the victory, I didn't, but the victory of, the,
Starting point is 01:14:44 the, the, the, it's, I think, something, to, something,
Starting point is 01:14:48 to, to, the, uh, yeah, I think, the moment where I'm
Starting point is 01:14:54 the, where I'm , the, Yeah, because at the end, you're, there are people have been
Starting point is 01:14:58 this performance that, it's available on YouTube, it's been, Slimane at Eurovision, it's all, and you're
Starting point is 01:15:05 all in puissance? Yeah, well, I don't know where it's to see what to say, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:10 I'm sure, you're to be sure, you're quite, and I'm really, there's a
Starting point is 01:15:16 voice, there's a little, yeah, because I, because I, it's, but, yeah,
Starting point is 01:15:20 no, we, we, we, we're, we're, I'm sure, I'm sure,
Starting point is 01:15:23 And I'm I've made violence this year. And the Eurovision has changed your career, in fact, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:30 it's done a verguer to your career. Yeah, it's done a reionement more grand,
Starting point is 01:15:36 it's made to goy and it for some people who people who don't even not what I
Starting point is 01:15:42 do you know, but who understand the language emotional, the of the heart of
Starting point is 01:15:45 each song. So it has also made to conscientize my music
Starting point is 01:15:50 differently, not just by the text, because as I I've written very
Starting point is 01:15:53 more, I mean, it's a lot, the text, and the way, the music, what I'm doing in my
Starting point is 01:15:57 voice, it's, now I'm thinking about more than you know, to make to have voyaged
Starting point is 01:16:02 to my music, what, that's the most be the good for the thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:16:08 You're really a magnificent encounter. Well, very, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Thank you, thank you, thank you, to us this very very much, and thank your music,
Starting point is 01:16:18 your voice. It's a great very much. So, thank all the world, and we'll say
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