Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #147 - Sam Cyr & Marylène Gendron | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette.

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

Pour la première fois, je reçois deux invités dans le même épisode!Il y a déjà quelque temps, j’ai été invitée au podcast Tout le monde s’haït. J’ai eu un coup de cœur pour les deux ...animateurs, soit Marylène Gendron et Sam Cyr. Ils se sont rencontrés à l’École nationale de l’humour et sont devenus inséparables. Qui de mieux pour cette édition spéciale d’Ouvre ton jeu!Cette rencontre a donné lieu à des discussions riches et profondes sur des thèmes universels comme la relation mère-fille de Marylène, les défis relationnels de Sam, certains pièges dont il faut se protéger en amitié, et l’impact de notre enfance sur l’ensemble de notre vie.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:13:34 Cartes vertes00:56:44 Cartes jaunes01:28:45 Cartes rouges01:49:49 Cartes Éros02:07:08 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everyone. Welcome to this edition special of Open Your Game because I'll have two inviities with me. We've never done that. It's a great
Starting point is 00:00:09 premier. And at the end of the introduction, I will say, who are my two inviities. All right, I'll read
Starting point is 00:00:16 some comments that we've received. We have written about the episode of Mary Solace Dion, where she says,
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Starting point is 00:00:49 getting to us and learn to us, it's enriching effectively. It's a big discussion that had provoked
Starting point is 00:00:53 also a lot of reaction. Maya we'll know, you'll understand, and you'll tell you're
Starting point is 00:00:59 saying, oh, Mary-Pier Artur, I'm always the old artiste what I'm chanted to me castes
Starting point is 00:01:04 the voice, I'm appreciate more with what she has been to leave-and- thank
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Starting point is 00:04:09 they've got a podcast very popular that's called All-Mond SAI. This are some of humorist also. It's some people that we know that's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I've had used the chance to participate to all the whole people say you're a podcast
Starting point is 00:04:22 if you know you know and you're in the sense when we go there, we're
Starting point is 00:04:26 we're in what we're not of us so the title I think I think very, I think
Starting point is 00:04:31 that's very interesting this way of the complex and so so I talk to
Starting point is 00:04:38 Sam Syre and Marilene Gendron it's really a first, we'll
Starting point is 00:04:44 see what it's a don't, but as they are the podcast, it's the people,
Starting point is 00:04:48 it's two people who are very, very well, that I'm that's interesting, and maybe there's a
Starting point is 00:04:54 other. In other case, they're necessary with them, they've accepted all of a invitation. So I'm
Starting point is 00:05:00 very content to live that, it's a little wumph, to have a new to have to have some to have some
Starting point is 00:05:06 to come, to say, and Mary Lenn. That's it's true, that we're not done to because at
Starting point is 00:05:11 the end of the end of restaurant in the sense that's the same. At the time we we're supposed to go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And we're at a time in the same the same time we're in the same time. But it's we're still in
Starting point is 00:05:21 the time. I'm still in I think is that you do you know our am your own our own
Starting point is 00:05:27 or at the exterior? At exterior? Well, at the I'm not, I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 00:05:34 more. I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm totally different. But it's because at the time
Starting point is 00:05:40 we're still content that you're when I was when I've had done to I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 00:05:44 so I'm not sure you're not quite the real base of our family is more and not
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Starting point is 00:06:30 time that we did, we're two invite. Hello, Sam. Hello, Mary Lenn. Hello.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's really a pleasure to you have today. It's a pleasure for us, certainly. You have
Starting point is 00:06:41 one of the podcasts. You have more than a podcast, but one, so that's one of the one of the most of the people say it. Is it as a
Starting point is 00:06:48 when you're going to have started to do you know, we're going to we're going to no, not to do you. No, not to do,
Starting point is 00:06:56 we're still at anything, we're I'm not, I'm not when it's going to start on we're just a project. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:02 project of pandemic. In 2020, it was really in 2020 that we had been in we wanted to do something that was feasible
Starting point is 00:07:09 even if all it was just like, it's because we could be fair of spectac. We were, we were in
Starting point is 00:07:15 a debut of career, and we were stressed to have already not a career. No, we're not a job. So,
Starting point is 00:07:20 when we've seen an, there was like an offer of rabbe at the studio SF, there was like a
Starting point is 00:07:27 rabbe for one hour for 100 dollars. So, that's like, it's like, it's abortable, we can,
Starting point is 00:07:33 we're going to see, I'm going to get, I'm going to be able to literally, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:07:37 get, but their but their price had announced that we're that it was sure,
Starting point is 00:07:40 it's like a pair, we thought that it was a inaccessible, enregistrated in a studio for a portfolio for a portfolio of humorist debutant, of the relive. And rapidly, we have, like, to think of concept of complex.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's been to be able to, and then it just debulled, and we never are able to say? Is it? Is it always, you know, it's really? No, it's not real. At least, we want, that's called
Starting point is 00:08:01 Beasone of a break. Yes, but, that's never called Beasue of a break. During 24 years, I I think it's to apply it, but it's a break.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But in your kitchen, we two, we're doing so, but it's true, but it's really just we're doing a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:16 title, and I'm thinking that's it, we're going to be, but we're like a tendency, that's not a bad idea,
Starting point is 00:08:23 not make a or of negation, and that's, and it's, and it's, so, it's, it's like, it's a question,
Starting point is 00:08:29 but, yeah, I've heard that, many of them people, people, people,
Starting point is 00:08:33 it's done, it's a part of them, it's a part to make, to turn it. I mean, if I if we'll launch a project, then it's probably not
Starting point is 00:08:41 to put a malar. No, you have, you have, you know, more than 200, we're going to arrive this year to 300, yeah, it's enormous, it's enormous. No, not 300 this this day, you're not,
Starting point is 00:08:53 I'm not, I'm not, it's not, it's not, it's over, in the case, 250, we're going to say, 250. At what you're at the moment you're in your life?
Starting point is 00:09:02 At the school of the humor, yeah, it's like we're You're a first day. You're at at the
Starting point is 00:09:07 blind pig in the Oshlaga Maison Neve. It's true. It's true.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And we've been a friend super rapidly the chemie operated directly
Starting point is 00:09:17 as I did I see Samuel. Yeah, I was very excited to be to be
Starting point is 00:09:21 at the school of first of and I was very stimulated to be in an
Starting point is 00:09:25 group with a group quite a group restrain of 15 person
Starting point is 00:09:30 with all the same objective professional. We'd say that it'd never to be in my head I'd parted
Starting point is 00:09:37 with the premise that I'd be amy with all of these people, and Mariland, it's been like the first
Starting point is 00:09:43 to be able to me, like a ball of gun. I'm going to go ahead to him. I don't know. Probably I'm
Starting point is 00:09:51 probably I'd probably I'd don't know because Sam, if you'd go to get to the time and I
Starting point is 00:09:56 didn't get to be he'd be able to get to get to and I'm more of type fonseoze
Starting point is 00:10:02 and I'm He's butchine. I'm puttin. I'm going to do I don't, I don't, I'm like, I'm like to work to be able to sit here. And I'm all right
Starting point is 00:10:12 trying to do the conversation, and I'm going to lifted after the night, I'm recondue at home. And it's always my tool
Starting point is 00:10:20 for trying to create a link, render an service for that person devere accrue to my service, that's my idea.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And then, and you've been that you've been after you're a minute. Yeah, we don't know. Why,
Starting point is 00:10:30 you do, like, like, you're a doubt in the voice. No, but not, I know, I see not, not,
Starting point is 00:10:33 not to but just, yeah, like, it was fluid, it's natural, it's, yeah, like she,
Starting point is 00:10:40 it's true, like she, it's true, we're always is a man. Is it like, is a friend, and so,
Starting point is 00:10:44 I'm like, yeah, I'm sure, I'm a true, I'm, it's a lot, it's like, clearly that
Starting point is 00:10:51 we're attired to the person, that we're that we're that's a energy that, which is chalheous,
Starting point is 00:10:57 and, how, I would say, reconfortant. Yeah, reconfortant. And it's that we're a bit. Often we say that we're like like a, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:05 a covert on the divan, you know, it's like, it's like that when we're in a lot, we're in front. But, yeah, a bit like
Starting point is 00:11:11 this effect that and of, but to be being able to yeah, really. It's true. We can't be more we're
Starting point is 00:11:18 than we're in the same, I think, that's quite. Now, I'm explain to the year. Because there's I've had to
Starting point is 00:11:22 think it's, how we've opened your to, obviously, I've invited to think, There's
Starting point is 00:11:29 there's a board of Kleenex. I've got always the word of, I'm not all the time used, but it's not all. There's just one,
Starting point is 00:11:36 there's not two. No, it's just one. There's a point. But there's a question. So, how I've had to be?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Obviously, you know, you know, you know, your game, you have done, you, have done, you have done, so, you've made,
Starting point is 00:11:49 to each one question, and I'm going to answer, you'll answer, you'll respond to each one, and then I'm all the ensemble of your questions,
Starting point is 00:11:59 and you'll answer to you, and you'll answer to you. Separately, but you'll have the same question. I'll have the same thing with the level jones. You have each of your level. And the level rose, you'll have to you have to you to answer to the question to the question to answer. Okay, ensemble.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Okay, perfect. So, that's... So, that we'll choose not, and then we'll choose it. Yeah, it's to say that you'll choose the question to which you will respond, but you will choose all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:21 So, we'll be a... Ensemble. Yeah, we'll be working on the choice the question. Who wants to Who will come Wait, but now
Starting point is 00:12:30 we're doing a second, don't know I'm not done to know oh, well you're an
Starting point is 00:12:36 but you're not used to see a I'm sorry Sam, it's a fan of a requirement,
Starting point is 00:12:41 he's like I'm not I'm not because there there's so, well, it's so,
Starting point is 00:12:47 so I'm so I'm so I'm right to comment if you do you're doing this response?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yes, well, no, I'm too, I'm sorry. In silence. But no,
Starting point is 00:12:54 we're you're at two, so we want to have the chymie. Is this what she's not true, I mean? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:00 yeah, it's a man. It's not. I'm not sure. But you can but you can't start. But you can't make up
Starting point is 00:13:06 the table, you don't give five, s'eteple Marlene. Okay. Marilyn ador to be a
Starting point is 00:13:12 first of the first. Is it that's true? Is it does it derange? It's not because I'm
Starting point is 00:13:16 more the type to attend to see the other, how they live their experience, and I appreciate
Starting point is 00:13:22 in a magazine this information and I have more of info for me to be able to be the I'm just the
Starting point is 00:13:27 like I'm like okay so you're the two maybe the maybe maybe I'm
Starting point is 00:13:33 so I'm so so here's your question what is your question well I'm I think you
Starting point is 00:13:38 can't even already already but how how you you to the authority how
Starting point is 00:13:43 kind of and then you're you to what you're to
Starting point is 00:13:47 you to be and for being with me I'm you do
Starting point is 00:13:51 I'm one. Hmm. It's really these really good questions. I think I'm going to
Starting point is 00:13:57 take this. What do you? To get a place you to do you? Because it's a question of, and a subject
Starting point is 00:14:04 that's a thing that's a lot, too, in the last year, more than I never imagined as
Starting point is 00:14:10 adult, think often to be the we're often often, we're it's like, it's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:14:16 we're doing, we're doing a adult, we think on the work, we're But we'd say that I didn't know that my
Starting point is 00:14:22 amy as much my friends would be so the place that's important. But in the same time, it's always a question of what I'm
Starting point is 00:14:31 I'm bringing to my friends versus what I'm apport, I want to have the impression that I'm they use or
Starting point is 00:14:37 they me serve in attending to, you know, it's like all these affairs that I think we can't
Starting point is 00:14:43 with the friends sometimes, and you have also prudent than what can be
Starting point is 00:14:48 with a new person that we and we're in a date to a man, so I don't know,
Starting point is 00:14:53 is it? Is it you're not many? I'm a lot of many. It's the woman.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yeah, it's the thing that's the time. And then I'm not enough to get a time, and
Starting point is 00:15:05 it's a long, it's there's a month, so I'm not never know people, but I think
Starting point is 00:15:11 it's not easy for is it is a lot of people? Do you think you're there's attention to the part of
Starting point is 00:15:18 certain's amy? I think, but I think that sometimes I create my own because I like to have
Starting point is 00:15:22 to have to be the link far, and these lines with my friends with my friends, I think I'm
Starting point is 00:15:26 someone intense. So, just that I make that not create a link and a
Starting point is 00:15:31 and a chimey that I create some to create those to which you could not respond in the
Starting point is 00:15:37 exactly. I think I can be not to someone that I have the people who
Starting point is 00:15:40 have been because you know, you're there intense, it's entire. Yeah. So I
Starting point is 00:15:45 think if if I disappear, it, it's I'm not there. So, so you'd say, you'd say,
Starting point is 00:15:50 what do you say, is it like, is it really what I'm doing? No, it's all what you do, what you do, my friend,
Starting point is 00:15:55 my friend, my friend. Is it that you've already had been in amity? Yes,
Starting point is 00:16:01 but I think that I'm caused a bit of the pen of amity. It's for that I do that I'm
Starting point is 00:16:05 question a question a question to do that because it has been never not often,
Starting point is 00:16:13 but, let's have two repries in my life to have some reproach of my
Starting point is 00:16:16 who's the people who are I'm not in that's a question, okay, it's a thing that's
Starting point is 00:16:21 a question of that's a because I'm not doing not to find a relationship and me saying, it's a
Starting point is 00:16:27 person that that's not that's not I'm not I'm going to create and it has kind of a repercussion
Starting point is 00:16:34 but on your radio social we see often with some you know you know you're
Starting point is 00:16:38 you know you're there's not a lot there's not much of there's there's sure
Starting point is 00:16:44 all it's So, oh, yeah, I'll I'm having to. Is it going to be? Is it going to? Not a book. No, I'd say no.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Not. The soiree when I'm alone, it's in the textos that I see, she's all, but she's all,
Starting point is 00:17:01 but she does me it do, well, I'm, I'm, I'm going, I'm going to get the diab
Starting point is 00:17:07 and Pras. You know, he pass not 10 or 15 minutes before the next texto. So I'm
Starting point is 00:17:11 know that Maryen is not in trying to loungee, to appreciate his solitude before the
Starting point is 00:17:16 diabbe, in front of but I'm in but I'm sorry a little, a little, but it's not my affair
Starting point is 00:17:21 prefer to be really, I'm really, I'm probably, I'm doing, like, actually, I'm doing, I'm doing,
Starting point is 00:17:27 but I'm doing, but I'm, at all the time that's not, but you have already said that you'd be
Starting point is 00:17:33 rapidly culpable to get or to be all to be at to do you, to do you,
Starting point is 00:17:39 you, you think, to work, to work, that you, that you could be in trying to do
Starting point is 00:17:43 do that's, the time, and also just because, actually, I've created, I'm quite, I'm playing with
Starting point is 00:17:48 the other time, I'm going to go to see a to see a lot of while I'm at while I'm in making sure, and then you're
Starting point is 00:17:55 going to work. You're going to with her? Finally, the film that's a film sold out. A film sold out to cinema
Starting point is 00:18:01 bow, good job. Well, yeah, a cinema be a lot, it's sold out, it, play, out, plain,
Starting point is 00:18:06 crackie. Well, I'm there's often, and I'm and I'm over, yeah, it's, It's a lot of cinema, be.
Starting point is 00:18:11 We're playing. We're doing. Well, it's all right. But it's all right. Even in the fact of it, I'm saying, oh, well, there's a bit a day where I'd have been to see Sam,
Starting point is 00:18:19 and then it's probably, there's a time in my head, and I like that, so often when I'm to be supposed to pass a day to a soul, I'm like, oh, well,
Starting point is 00:18:29 I'm going to write to someone to, like, to be social. You're social. Yes, really. I'm, so.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I'm so much, I'm fatigued. If I'm something of pre-gue with someone, I'm energized. if I have a showery all,
Starting point is 00:18:42 it can't me, it's a lot of, it's really something with the contact with the other that's allume.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Like a chien, in fact, literally, I'm literally, I'm literally, I'm like, there's so so much of
Starting point is 00:18:54 a man of of a few? Plus, of my ofie, yeah. And when I was more
Starting point is 00:18:59 second-air, I had more more of guys. You had a skis. You did a skate? I was just, and in the
Starting point is 00:19:06 last years I, you know, my two my two best friends who are the
Starting point is 00:19:09 guys, but my other my other my other my time, I'm in the five,
Starting point is 00:19:13 six years, it's not quite to do you or a little to do you that, because I'm doing that,
Starting point is 00:19:19 because I'm, that's a marriage in my family. You'd think you have a to do that?
Starting point is 00:19:24 I'm not to think to that's a manor. But I'm, because at when I'm at a
Starting point is 00:19:29 little to save the for to save the life of my life, there,
Starting point is 00:19:32 there there's who I'm people, and he I said, but why you'd don't leave not?
Starting point is 00:19:36 You know, you know, why you let your little bit of you know, because it's sure it's a bit
Starting point is 00:19:42 weird, but in the same time, it's the way of the life of Charles. And there's, it's the
Starting point is 00:19:47 contrary, you that's, and at a moment of I'm saying, but at what it's that's
Starting point is 00:19:52 going to that's not, that my my friends are completely in the sense contrary,
Starting point is 00:19:56 that's what I'm to do you do you to my company in this there,
Starting point is 00:20:00 but it's more, it's more, it's reproach. And I said, when they're when they're
Starting point is 00:20:04 there, it's a question, it's my time, it's a thing that's a lot of people, and then I'm
Starting point is 00:20:11 doing it's not same. For me, when I, when I, you know, when the life, it's changed,
Starting point is 00:20:16 you know, you've got been, you've got to to be able to get to it's not obliged that.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm not obliged to subir his amity, and I'm like, you know, I'm,
Starting point is 00:20:27 you know, I'm, you're, And we'd say that I've always re-chewed my amitiers, and I'm
Starting point is 00:20:33 to have been in a great point in front of my own I'm in front of the time, to be able, to see,
Starting point is 00:20:40 but my my real friends, we don't have that, when we're seeing, it's like that we're
Starting point is 00:20:45 all the time. And then, I, really, it's a question that I'd not
Starting point is 00:20:49 count, that I'd be able to that you're to get to all the part. Well, it's sure
Starting point is 00:20:54 that you're a moment of a and we've It's not a choice because we change and we're going to be able to, so I'm going to be able to, so I'm not at the abrid of that, but I'm not going to be able to feel like that.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I think it's me that's a lot who has been very, very, very, very, very a very, very important to be able to have been like, as well, I think, it's just that. Oh, but it's beautiful to be social, the same, and the people. Well, yeah, yeah, it's, you know, you're not very, I'm not, Samuel, he's all the time
Starting point is 00:21:23 that I'm doing all the time that's social, you know, It's incredible, but, but I'm not. I'm going to get up. I'm going to go to be able to
Starting point is 00:21:29 see a to be in a lot of, those olympics to social. But no, but I'm saying that
Starting point is 00:21:33 all the naceousous but, you know, I'm you know, I'm sure, I'm sure,
Starting point is 00:21:39 with a whole thing, with any soci, and never in my life I'd have that,
Starting point is 00:21:45 family and family and that's never really really in my life, before recently, and with
Starting point is 00:21:52 you've never had ever any I'm sorry, I said, Marilyn, will be the clue of the spectacle. My uncles, my tenses,
Starting point is 00:21:57 will preferer Marilene, to be really good, and it's always that you're always that's every time, every single,
Starting point is 00:22:05 or a rebeye, the people want to be sure that they're not, but no, but it's right. Well,
Starting point is 00:22:13 I love, to go to tell you, to say, but this year, you're so being, you're not going to
Starting point is 00:22:19 it's not because it didn't, it was, it was not Not that time. Well, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:23 My little My little niece that had written a poem. No, no, no. Chair Marilla. No, no, that's not right.
Starting point is 00:22:28 That's not right. You're not to give you. There's a carol there. There were no. There were no.
Starting point is 00:22:33 It was a good. It was like a dramatic. We were not no, no. They were no, they're
Starting point is 00:22:40 no, they're five cards, you'd have time. Oh, my dear. You're so different.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, that's sure. We're so, you're complete. Yes, you're so, you're so, you're complementar.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I've seen on TikTok the people who do they're doing they're doing and they're like that
Starting point is 00:22:56 it's like that I mean it's like I mean to say it's like you're five you're doing five things
Starting point is 00:23:02 so you're so that you have been and if you have you have you need to you can't
Starting point is 00:23:08 you can't you can't you look the first question we're really in the tarot
Starting point is 00:23:12 we're what is your rapport with the solitude okay okay what is your
Starting point is 00:23:17 poor default. What person has made a difference in your life? What is
Starting point is 00:23:23 your passion and what is your your and what's I'm in there's a in the
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm in you know, you're saying you're I'm I'm more the three first
Starting point is 00:23:36 I'm but I'm but I'm my three first I'm the I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:23:40 I'm I'm sure I'm I'm it's true huh? Yeah, but
Starting point is 00:23:46 that's interesting So she's interesting, okay. Okay, we can go ahead because the people are going to be dissuited, if no. Which person has made a difference in my life?
Starting point is 00:23:55 My friend. No, it's not not a parent. No, but, you know, what's what you think? And well, because when I've
Starting point is 00:24:03 met Marilyn at the school of the humor, I was I was an coquie firmed. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:12 not antisocial. But, I was a lot, I was I was quite, I think I was not a laise with who I was, I had already done my
Starting point is 00:24:22 coming out, but I was quite a laise It was not so long time. I was not my emotions, I was
Starting point is 00:24:30 not really, I'm not very much, and I'm include our our friend Charlo also there's,
Starting point is 00:24:37 we're like to have been a genre of trio, and it's full evident for me what you
Starting point is 00:24:43 have brought the two, because you are two people very chaloreuse, two chien. And, I'm more a chaw. I'm more like a chaw,
Starting point is 00:24:52 those other, plus two bergian, and two golden, I don't know. And just with, it's niaze, but, you know, before, you've just, like, touched. Yeah. And, I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:03 I didn't touch not person, you know, I, didn't have to caline, in grandizing, me, the, the, um, in my life, we, it's,
Starting point is 00:25:10 it was, it's, so, and, now, it's, it's more rendered, we're and it's nyeasue,
Starting point is 00:25:17 but it's a de-blocked a lot of more, in parallel with the the way that I
Starting point is 00:25:22 did it, it's a very much tissed in the content that I was that I'm more than
Starting point is 00:25:30 that I'm more, to reveal some of me to reveal my my travel, the things
Starting point is 00:25:39 that I'm They're all on, the complex. You know, it's all after that has been the
Starting point is 00:25:44 podcast on the complex. I'd never made a podcast on when I was when I was done.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Is it? I'd be able to that. I'd say, I'm not not a percent liberate
Starting point is 00:25:56 to do, I think the chem is really long for me. But what what's that's
Starting point is 00:25:59 you've done to do the humor, mount to sign, to expose the
Starting point is 00:26:03 the cash. The cash. No, it's really because I'm I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:26:11 I'm a question because, yes, I'm a person really introvertie. I think I've developed a, I know,
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm saying, I'm always thought that the humor was not for me because I'm sure that it for the
Starting point is 00:26:27 person extroverties, and it was a thing, there was a relive in humor
Starting point is 00:26:32 that's constructed with with the artists that I had the impression
Starting point is 00:26:37 that it's had an micro, we could they were there were able to And he was not
Starting point is 00:26:41 obliged to cry, but he could just say these little little little phrases sarcastic,
Starting point is 00:26:45 pince and to Rere and that it's a fact I'm I'm sure I'm in that's
Starting point is 00:26:50 it's for that's just I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, not really of conviction
Starting point is 00:26:59 in life so I just just degringoled the ento-o-o- -n-d- -d-mete- to come to be,
Starting point is 00:27:04 well, you want you to talk to to talk, to talk, you know, But I think the affair
Starting point is 00:27:10 that's a time that's you know, I think like a good, a good description
Starting point is 00:27:14 of Sam, because it's not that you're not humorist or you're not extrovertis, it's like if you're
Starting point is 00:27:20 something that to get to get this to play to play that to you know, there's not,
Starting point is 00:27:26 there's, there's, you know, there's like, we're like, we're like, it's not your personality,
Starting point is 00:27:30 but you're not that, it's not that, it's like, it's like, it's like, and it's like, it's,
Starting point is 00:27:35 it's like, to this part that I've seen. It's not like a new affair that was not like a thing that's
Starting point is 00:27:42 it's a thing because I'm often the same. It's often my career to use my career to make in my life
Starting point is 00:27:51 personal, for justably to use to who I reallylemant, it's accepted and the present to public
Starting point is 00:27:59 and there there's something that it's dramatize these things? I think that yes.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I think I think that I use a lot of derision for chominy in the life.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I think in grandisance I had a lot of all what was possible to my
Starting point is 00:28:19 to my or of my car or to have an to have to try to
Starting point is 00:28:25 not not, no, I don't I'm not I'm looking the
Starting point is 00:28:29 other that were yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so, yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:32 a, so, because, a, be part of the people, and it's
Starting point is 00:28:34 that? Yeah, I don't know, my grandmaire. My grandmaire? No, no, not, not, not, not, not, my grandmother, but it's because with my mother, it's a, it's a commenter that, oh, grandmamma, you're like that,
Starting point is 00:28:46 said all the time, well, what's it that people are going to think? So, I think I'm a bit herited of that, and we're, and we're a bit of this gane, but it's for that that the auto derision me help because it's like a bit, I'm conscious that I'm a bit
Starting point is 00:29:01 to do you have violence to this ghen and this horde that in just on arriving on on saying,
Starting point is 00:29:08 hello, you're gay, are you are you content? I'm sorry. A bit affronted, a bit facet. You're a bit
Starting point is 00:29:14 about to it's a bit. On the scene, yeah, I think I've been to make my first open
Starting point is 00:29:22 mic in 2015 and I think the first first time that I really made a number on homosexuality
Starting point is 00:29:27 it was in 2018 at the end of my partour at the call of humor. Because I had an impression that it was a little an elephant
Starting point is 00:29:34 in the piece when I was presented on scene but, you know, maybe it's just me who felt like the I felt the I'm in the scene? In the door of the scene, I've made my coming out
Starting point is 00:29:48 quite 24 years, if I'm if I'm not. And I think that I had plus a I'm not super alas with the idea to to have
Starting point is 00:29:59 to this subject, it was not a discussion that I felt like I think it
Starting point is 00:30:04 super open in my circles familial amico, not because it was
Starting point is 00:30:11 a just a gane to be the question, and I know,
Starting point is 00:30:17 entreted by me. I'm in a less to be to talk to do
Starting point is 00:30:22 what it to be to be a sexual or the I'm tend to
Starting point is 00:30:26 to talk to a level eros it Because even between us, it's not
Starting point is 00:30:31 really a subject that we're talking as a lot of, you know, as we're not, you know, it's for that, that's for so that,
Starting point is 00:30:39 a bit sexuality. It's taboo between you, really. We've never partaged a in the nudity. There's no
Starting point is 00:30:44 no, no, there's a man, we're like, ah, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:30:48 no, we're in no, we're in like, we're like, we're not talking about
Starting point is 00:30:53 so, we're not so, but you're not because it's caused only by Or, you know, or you've got a puddard like that also?
Starting point is 00:31:00 It's more our link. Because I think that, you know, sometimes on parlay with other people, and I'm talking with other people, and it's just, our link, it's not that, you know, it's like a link pretty similar.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's really particular. Because, in effect, with a new person crossed at the start of a bar, I'd be more more than I'm actually than I'm like Marilyn my best friend
Starting point is 00:31:19 of the 10 years of years. Well, why it's made like that? I don't know. Is that Mary Lynn has done confidence in you? Well, yes. I'd say, because you're a person
Starting point is 00:31:29 that I identify that, I think you have enormously confidence in you. Something that I say something I say, Marilyn has a lot of experience
Starting point is 00:31:36 to be in myo of bin. And I think I'm very good. So I have confidence in I, I don't, I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:43 I, I don't, I know, I'm, I don't know but I'm not the bestime of the good term, there, but, yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:51 perhaps, at the level of the confidence, but it's that I I see , the
Starting point is 00:31:55 quality of Sam the potential of Sam. That's, that's beautiful what you're in trying to
Starting point is 00:32:01 tell you. In effect, I'm in I'm not like that. No, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:32:08 say, it's a really to be a honor because I'm my I'm a
Starting point is 00:32:11 year of I'm, I'm, so, the fact that a young female
Starting point is 00:32:15 me, I'm to gain to gain confidence in me because she has
Starting point is 00:32:18 the potential in I'm, I'm because I think I think I I'm going to arrive at a point in my
Starting point is 00:32:24 life where I'm perfectly aligned with who I'm and that I'm sure with all that. But I'm like a frustration to be this person that who has not been able to be totally liberated from its 20s.
Starting point is 00:32:40 It's always a regret that I have a little crot. What do you think that would have changed that in your life? I have the impression I'd be rendered much more low in my
Starting point is 00:32:49 life if I'd had sent to be liberated in my 20thens. I have the impression that I'm perhaps in couple that I'd be able to
Starting point is 00:32:57 have to find my barrier and let's get people to get to because that's still? Oh, really,
Starting point is 00:33:05 I've never been in couple and it's still to have to try to to try to Maryne oh,
Starting point is 00:33:12 yeah, we're at Marri-Clo I'm obliged to say I'm able to do I'm in couple and I'm
Starting point is 00:33:14 and he's back-a-back back to him. So, So, like, okay, he had to to talk, he said,
Starting point is 00:33:21 I never been in court, and I'm like, well, well, that's all right, he's been to do this to do you know,
Starting point is 00:33:27 it's not true to do you. But that's my only secret. But that for you, it's of that your own? Yes,
Starting point is 00:33:33 it's a great part of my own, I'd say, and it's what I've identified also with my Psy
Starting point is 00:33:38 that's, that all turn a lot around the home, she's so, so,
Starting point is 00:33:45 so, so, so, that's that I We just not... We're trying I'm
Starting point is 00:33:51 always more more to attain the view to be a person quite a pretty sure,
Starting point is 00:33:59 I'm trying, I've let's the love to come to me? Is that a word to that,
Starting point is 00:34:06 the word, do you? I'm not the impression that I'm just the impression that there's
Starting point is 00:34:11 there's an no no way I'm not not the part, it's not. Exactly,
Starting point is 00:34:15 yes. Well, I'm, it's sure that I say that he not the
Starting point is 00:34:18 I'd say I'd not there's because he's he's not, he's not, he's not, he's
Starting point is 00:34:22 not, but when we don't know it's there's a yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:27 a big big door, like, with the belles people, probably that's you know, it's a great thing,
Starting point is 00:34:42 you're doing, you're trying to to see what's that's true, you're doing that's, you can't not a
Starting point is 00:34:47 to the world. But it's impossible to feel like you want to feel like someone that's a first, the first time.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's irrealist. So, it's left you time. It's not not a point because it's not a feeling that you search.
Starting point is 00:35:00 But how do you do you do with after just a door? I don't know. I'm not. I'm not I'm notach
Starting point is 00:35:07 not after a point. I'm know the potential. I see like the potential of the attachment that
Starting point is 00:35:12 could be let's the chance also. You know, sometimes you're a good feeling.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I mean, I mean, I always when you feel like you have not been to be a person or to have a question, it's a great response,
Starting point is 00:35:25 but I think Sam, it's time before you get a time before you think that's like you have there's a time that you
Starting point is 00:35:32 have not the choice to say, I'm not not totally but I'm three, four four times and then after
Starting point is 00:35:38 it's right that man, you know, you know, you're so, you know, there's this discour that exists,
Starting point is 00:35:43 but there's there also the discourse inverse, to respect, if you're not not with someone, change,
Starting point is 00:35:49 you know, you'll know what there's a question that exists also, so I'm sorry with the two. But is,
Starting point is 00:35:55 is that you encounter some people, is it, is you can't come to you're,
Starting point is 00:36:01 that I'm saying, oh, that I'm not often, I'd have you do it's more sometimes, but I'm
Starting point is 00:36:08 not recently, like, in the two last year same years. Well, but, but,
Starting point is 00:36:12 It's still recently. For me, it's recently. No, but you've made more of the avant, in the last year.
Starting point is 00:36:20 In the last year. But that's you, that's you, to put that. To set to make the front of it?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah. Because you're very fondseous if we can come to this discussion that, of what you
Starting point is 00:36:31 do you know, and how you're doing to detain on me, each time that I do you do
Starting point is 00:36:36 that I'm a little crazy, I'm thinking, well, this is the influence of Mary Lahn.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I'm going to go go to my day but your life has changed but your there's a
Starting point is 00:36:46 thing that there's something that there's something that you're that's it's
Starting point is 00:36:50 it's a it's not it's not it's not it's not it's it's it's a
Starting point is 00:36:56 it's not it's not a 90 degree but but it but it deploy
Starting point is 00:37:01 some of things that you have not before you I think
Starting point is 00:37:04 yeah all the all the thing is more outgoing all you're
Starting point is 00:37:08 very spontaneous also all the decision spontaneous. This year I
Starting point is 00:37:15 will demenage in a new loggement and I'm feeling totally spontaneous to and it's it's a lot of
Starting point is 00:37:23 it's a lot of many, I think it's not that's it's not it's quite it's been four that's
Starting point is 00:37:30 it's like it's like it's after four years of it's like it's a every year
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'm going to you're doing this you're doing you're doing this you're doing this you're doing this to do this of this
Starting point is 00:37:41 Well, yes. It's jid. But if we can say the inverse, what's what you have brought to? Well, I'm very spontaneous
Starting point is 00:37:50 and I'm very quite that. I'm not very perfectionist. And Sam is really like that that sometimes I look like,
Starting point is 00:37:58 okay, it's so also, there's a good in being able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to
Starting point is 00:38:03 be able to be on time to do something to do think to think of of agir. Some,
Starting point is 00:38:09 we're often confronted to take some for the work, particularly for the life personal sometimes also.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And it's like an adaptation for me, how we have not the same vision of the things, and then we
Starting point is 00:38:20 have the impression that we're in the same, we're doing different. It's kind of, it's intelligent
Starting point is 00:38:30 of a way that I'm even not capable of being, and it's really, sometimes you do you
Starting point is 00:38:37 you admire my capacity to have some pleasure in solitaire. That's true. But it's really someone who's like a world like to be able to
Starting point is 00:38:51 Because if you're in solidity Mark, Cloddastor, his card his card Rose. No, but it's true that you're
Starting point is 00:38:57 someone who's like a world interior you're really like a Sam, he's really unique. There's really
Starting point is 00:39:03 a personality. He's like I'm so I'm like I exist by influence of the people because
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah, I'm sort of some of the things that are going to be but often it's these things that's the
Starting point is 00:39:19 music, let tell the he, and we're it's like it probably, and I think I'm, I
Starting point is 00:39:24 think it's Sam who talk the modes, the new words the new words that all the six seven it's more.
Starting point is 00:39:33 No, no, but it's very. The kind of of person You've written
Starting point is 00:39:37 in plus? Yes, is that you will re-echer? I've tried to the suite of my
Starting point is 00:39:46 first unique romance. I've abandoned Who? He was on your coming-out a little
Starting point is 00:39:49 also? Yes, you're right? Yeah. Because my, well, it's a spoiler there's not
Starting point is 00:39:55 of coming-out in my first book. So, I wanted to write a second where there
Starting point is 00:39:59 was more that and it was a I'm a mix of time, I'm making of inspiration. We'd say I'd like I'd like the first,
Starting point is 00:40:09 so I've been put this project that on the glass. So I'm like, I'm like, not a project literary in this moment, but I'm
Starting point is 00:40:17 still in my little, my little box, a project future that I'd ever to write a book. I don't know
Starting point is 00:40:24 if it's this suite, or if it's completely other thing, like a trailer d'epuvance. Oh,
Starting point is 00:40:29 yeah, I'd like that. I'd like that. I'd be very fared to You live with with the characters and they're
Starting point is 00:40:34 doing it's it's kind of the writing for the imaginable it. Well, we're going to it's
Starting point is 00:40:41 I'm afraid, I'm not ever really created or written something invented of any piece. It's all the
Starting point is 00:40:48 time based on the reality. But even if you'd an trailer, there would have something, there's always
Starting point is 00:40:54 there's always the things of the reality even when it's in fiction. Yeah, In fiction, this part
Starting point is 00:40:58 I'd be confident to try to the aspects of of personality, of person that I know for in have to do you know, but I respect
Starting point is 00:41:04 both the author who are, there's a twist in the history, and there's a denouement, and I'm, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:12 how you're saying, they're saying, it's like, in writing, it's like these characters take a
Starting point is 00:41:17 and they're they're doing, and they find, and they find, your head completely liberal to do,
Starting point is 00:41:22 to do, to do, to find, to do, to find, what, , I'd like that
Starting point is 00:41:25 tentate my chance, in the case. You'd have. The question that I'm going to choose, I think, I think that's
Starting point is 00:41:30 that's the that's for us. Yeah, how do you, how do you, how do you want to, that's,
Starting point is 00:41:35 you know, we're doing that, we're very different on, so, that's, you know, not,
Starting point is 00:41:42 but our family, that's, like, he's like, the third rule, that,
Starting point is 00:41:46 he's often that I'm, there's a problem to, uh, a troupe of position. A bit a troupe of position.
Starting point is 00:41:51 A little, it can be say no, because we we're going to do, but you're less worse with the time that's going to
Starting point is 00:41:59 I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm sorry, I'm going to be disinterested by something that's chosen by a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:07 people who the classic of something is too popular it can, it can to make more that
Starting point is 00:42:15 but in time it's very scolair and when we're supposed to have a rendezvous when we
Starting point is 00:42:20 when we're he's going and it's important and he respect And I can be more, I can be more, I'm more rebel. I'm really comfortable. I'm extremely uncomfortable in the disobedience and the confrontation.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I'm going to avoid that. So you respect the authority. So, that's up to this form. Yeah, on, he respects a lot. More, more. So, I'm more, I'm more, I'm just going to be with, your own own, your own, well, to be, well, I respect the law criminal.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Your regs, the regs. My, my son, very young, he'd say, I mean, I've lived according to my own own my proper reg. I'm boy. It's a
Starting point is 00:42:56 it's a per person to check the, but I think I'm more more than the to be more because
Starting point is 00:43:03 that's the thing that's that's a question that's you know, you're trying to hear your point of
Starting point is 00:43:08 view? And you and you get a point? That's you're a other thing
Starting point is 00:43:11 that's that's that's I'm not not more more than argumenter about,
Starting point is 00:43:15 oh, my God is totally so much, I'm like I'm like I'm like
Starting point is 00:43:19 I'm like of example in head, it's plat, but I'm saying you're telling you're telling you're telling,
Starting point is 00:43:23 you're telling, you're talking about a chican, but you know, a discussion where we have far valor our points.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I'm, I'm tinge often because I'm saying, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:43:37 I'm not, I've got, I've been, why? I'm, I'm, I'm, it would,
Starting point is 00:43:41 it would, that would be the argument that I'm in an, if I'm, if I'm, in an argumentation, I'm
Starting point is 00:43:47 rapidly, me to have to counter-argumented, and I'm like, oh, no, it's true, let's do you, let's do it, while she's , I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:43:55 while she's that you're in fact, it's a lot, it's not, it's something in my life, I'm I consult two of my friends,
Starting point is 00:44:03 that I know, the good people with who talk about, that, they're, some, they're,
Starting point is 00:44:09 so, they're, so, they're, maybe, in, discussing with these persons, I,
Starting point is 00:44:14 I, I, I'm, my, argumentate, and I, a lot of my thinking with people, for the
Starting point is 00:44:19 real, it's a very time that's the first time that's the first thing you say it's not in the bonnard. You rodd your argumentate on the telephone?
Starting point is 00:44:27 I'm thinking. But it's important to do that. Yeah. To discuss and to donate some point of view, and some,
Starting point is 00:44:33 sometimes we change of ideas. It's so also. Dechanger, yeah. By, there's things there's affairs that we know the
Starting point is 00:44:38 impression that we have the response, but when we end the stories of other, we have a other vision. Really.
Starting point is 00:44:44 But I, I think it's important to defend his point of view. by example. Yes, it's a new good example of that.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You know, you do not to say something and you do not. I'm always to understand. I'm always the racorci intellectual, I'm not
Starting point is 00:44:56 that's not. It's the same because it's the same there's a time. There's nothing that you're anything. He's never that's just,
Starting point is 00:45:02 well, I'm not not even not to explain to how I think it's not sufficient as much we're going to we're going to
Starting point is 00:45:08 start out of I'm going to say, I'm to say how it's because it's my mind, I'm in the question,
Starting point is 00:45:14 we're to to make a response, we're always done, I'm like, I mean, the podcast is the proof that it's not a matter that we're always
Starting point is 00:45:22 that's a new affair that's not present to Quebec and who is in trying to change when the world of the media, and it's like,
Starting point is 00:45:28 it's like, it's like, it's like, we, our life has changed to cause the podcast. If we had heard someone
Starting point is 00:45:35 who's not, I'm not sure the podcast, but you're not your energy there's, well, I'm probably
Starting point is 00:45:40 when I said, when I said, when I'm part of a podcast. There's people who are okay. It's like we never will be
Starting point is 00:45:46 the end of the way or I see not too. And finally But in meantime, I'm in the I'm doing it
Starting point is 00:45:52 I'm doing I've made a podcast during the pandemic that was called two boys in quarantine
Starting point is 00:45:55 I did that's I've made 52 episodes that's still in the pandemic but I
Starting point is 00:46:02 know I know I'm I'm like that's not the success that I'm not the
Starting point is 00:46:04 success to have to do some of the interview but the regard of the
Starting point is 00:46:10 other, you want to say, well, let me, calm you, you're not obliges to me look at least, me, and, you know, I'm not, you know, it's like to, you know, it's like, but, no, attend, you'll regard and you'll, and you'll try an idea after. But, me, I'm, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:46:24 the raccoorses intellectual, I don't, I'm not, the responses who are, who are, in fact, are, they're all, you know, so. But, I'm, so that's that I'm afraid, but I'm, but I'm, you know, how, you know, how you negotiate,
Starting point is 00:46:39 the contract, let's say an contract publicitar for a commandeater for the podcast
Starting point is 00:46:47 I'm I'm I'm quickly in position on the we're an situation of comfort
Starting point is 00:46:55 and I'm scared to get this situation of comfort if I challenge the modality of the
Starting point is 00:47:00 contract so often if we're if it's always been made to say I'll respond
Starting point is 00:47:05 it's correct and I'll be able to be able to But, you're not going to to be a lot of the comfort for you know,
Starting point is 00:47:13 it's really, you're being comfortable. You're being comfortable. You've been in your family. Yes, I'm not being in. I'm not good.
Starting point is 00:47:19 She's, I'm like, ah, is we've lost the contract because we have demanded that it's
Starting point is 00:47:24 at the autumn rather than in the springtime? It's all that's not and I'm sure more during the
Starting point is 00:47:29 year for the cause of that so. So, so you go to so you go on. Well,
Starting point is 00:47:32 so I'm I'm more, I'm more I'm more to have asked, and it's It's not, well, it's their problem. It's all right. And it's all right. And it's all right. And it's
Starting point is 00:47:40 all right. I want to have to what other. And he wants, I want to have it. But also, there's a part of mine who is convinced that we'll have like that. I'm saying, but it's a good instinct. I'm saying, I'm saying, that I'm going to be able to have the discussion of a way genteel and respectuees
Starting point is 00:47:58 to understand. And if it's really that the sole solution, we'll rest there. But it's because you know, you know, Because you know that you've done also reasonable and justified. Yes. It's that also.
Starting point is 00:48:09 You're capable to justify. So in the time that, I'm like you're like when it's reasonable and justified, because after it's
Starting point is 00:48:17 too long, when you're signing, it's finished like if all my demands are not reasonable and not justified, I'm on.
Starting point is 00:48:26 It's a minute. And then, and a moment of a moment of a moment of you say, now it's always disreasonable,
Starting point is 00:48:33 and a moment a moment of a You say, oh, well, no, it's this person that's not want to respond to any of course, so if it's just not the good person with who you travel. So, so you're protected.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Absolutely. Yeah, it's a part much, like, to be in tandem with her. But it's right that's like, I'm going to go to
Starting point is 00:48:48 ask you. Yeah, and I'm sure. And I'm sure. But after, we're saying, we're talking about, and then we're
Starting point is 00:48:56 probably me who will be talking, but it's the fruit also of our discussion and notentent. And, and there's
Starting point is 00:49:01 he me recalibed and it's like, well, When, it's not that's not that's a It's like, we're like a
Starting point is 00:49:07 good duo. So if you're not sure to get sure, you're not sure, you're not, she'd be contented not, she'll be happy
Starting point is 00:49:15 in plus, no, no, no, I'll have to call, she'll She'll be able to person is at abrid You, I'm gonna, you, call you,
Starting point is 00:49:21 call you, I adore the appell, there's a lot, you know, there's a few, you know, there's a couple I'm just I've been
Starting point is 00:49:26 to call, I'm, I'm, what's what's what's what's what's what's the to ask you to ask you to call it. Yeah, I was
Starting point is 00:49:35 I've got to call because I have some she had a because there's a time that's that's a little text, and I'm saying, it's kind of more
Starting point is 00:49:43 more effective than an emoticone. That's sure. You know, at a moment of a time, it's all of his humor with these bonhombe, it's because I'm
Starting point is 00:49:51 limited at a moment done, you know. But I'm anguores too attend an response. I'm not very patient. So the courier of which we we're going to attend,
Starting point is 00:49:59 maybe a return that's a I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to get to be, I'm going to work, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:50:08 my question. I'm saying, there's a call, there's a chance that I force the person to respond and that's a security, she,
Starting point is 00:50:16 she has been, that if we're maybe it would have been a week. Oh, but I'm, I'm going to ask you can't
Starting point is 00:50:22 be the scenario, can't, yeah, yeah, I'm, we're, I'm a,
Starting point is 00:50:26 there's a, there's a, there's a form of anxiety, in what you do? I'm not. You know, I'm
Starting point is 00:50:31 saying, I'm saying, I'm in the question. I'm a question. But, yeah, I think I'm a certain
Starting point is 00:50:36 because you're some things. But your scenarios, it's not very much about super well. It's not
Starting point is 00:50:41 rarely some these scenarios positive. No, I'm imagine sometimes of the scenarios
Starting point is 00:50:44 negative. That you have you all the time that's like so? I think not,
Starting point is 00:50:49 I'm not. It's more it's more it's more because it's there's 15, 20, we're,
Starting point is 00:50:55 we're more, more, Not, you know, so it's not a discussion that was open to know if you're notxious, me, you're anxious, I'm actually anxious, but, so, no, you know, person never talked to that before. But I'd never be able to say to have a little diagnostic.
Starting point is 00:51:12 But you never talked to that with your Psy, let's say, no. Not really, like, of front, like that. You're not, you part of the death, you? Yes, madam. Yes, because often the anxiety, I'm not a psychologist, but, you know, sometimes the anxiety, it's often, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's It's going to be the fear of the death.
Starting point is 00:51:29 So, the hypocondry is a form of anxiety. She's a form of anxiety. It's because it's the anxiety. The hypocondry also, and it's this fear of being imported by something. So, a little boss, but it's not to say that sometimes you're still in there.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Yeah, but that's new. Depute what, the three years' years? Yeah, three, four years'clock. A year, a six-scently. It's a due three weeks. It's a disease grave, and he has touched all the time
Starting point is 00:51:59 and then it's all the time because he's all the time in the time he's all the time it's a piece of normal like all right I'm like a picure of I'm like a bit
Starting point is 00:52:08 so I've been so I've been to go at the pharmacy he all the time he all the doctor to pose some questions I'd not to be a person like that
Starting point is 00:52:16 but yeah I'm definitely fear of the death in the sense where I'm afraid of all the final
Starting point is 00:52:24 yeah definitive and yeah and yeah and I'm And I think that I've been elevated, perhaps that's
Starting point is 00:52:31 a little bit in the Watt. I've been not quite person. There's person who is more in my
Starting point is 00:52:36 life. A part of, you know, my grandparents, but, so I'm imagine really I'm the person
Starting point is 00:52:42 who's the person who see the the malady or the blassure. I'm imagine really
Starting point is 00:52:47 being a person who's put up and my and my entrails and I get back
Starting point is 00:52:53 that will be be correct. But no, but no, but no, but no, but no, there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:56 there's nothing, there. Hey, I'm over at a but I'm over at a but I'm over there a bit of time, I'm not going to I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:53:04 yeah, the drama in face, it's, it's a lot of you know, she's completely the inverse, yeah, she'll be in a bit of a
Starting point is 00:53:11 point, she's less fear, it's sure that I'm more I'm more, I'm more, you're more,
Starting point is 00:53:17 you're in the limits. I test the limits to my time, you test, the limit, you test,
Starting point is 00:53:24 so you test, On the limit, Your limits, your limit's all the time to turn to always more. I'm always, I'm
Starting point is 00:53:30 sure, I'm sure, I'm not too, what's the fact that you have made, that's the limit? It's not a trick like, like,
Starting point is 00:53:38 just, parachute and it's more the truth, I've more the misery to know, my limits
Starting point is 00:53:44 emotional, and my limits, just, relationalel, that, sometimes I think I can't
Starting point is 00:53:48 I'm going because I want, I'm like, I'm, I'm not, I'm just, I'm just,
Starting point is 00:53:52 I'm just, I'm able, I'm always, It's always correct. With me, it's always correct. So it's more that I think. Because you compense. I compensates.
Starting point is 00:54:00 You compensates, you're a lot of. You're a lot of parachute, bungee, Mark? No. No, no, no. No, my, my, my son, it's all
Starting point is 00:54:08 oh, my God, my God. And, then, he's not he made that, so, so it's perfect. He's had mal he's a lot saughty, in a way, but in fact,
Starting point is 00:54:17 it's that it's too , it's too, he has been there's like, I'm making of air. to listen, it's been more difficult to
Starting point is 00:54:26 it's not it's a little whole lot of it's not, you know, he's not emed this compression that,
Starting point is 00:54:32 that's... The gestion of the source and the company yeah, so when it's not it's not done
Starting point is 00:54:37 the good to do that I'm sorry I'm sorry, I'm sorry, no, no, but in the
Starting point is 00:54:40 time I'm doing, let's be, my life, but, you, no, my limit, I see not,
Starting point is 00:54:45 I'm, I'm, I'm pretty to try to try to try to try, but I'm,
Starting point is 00:54:51 I'm, There's been in the limit, but I don't what I'd have been to get the plus to my limit.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I don't know too. But, sometimes it's that's surprising, it's not what we're getting your
Starting point is 00:55:03 limit, but maybe we're, maybe you'll have not seen even more maybe I'm doing this affair that, but how I'm
Starting point is 00:55:09 put, me, get in this situation that, yeah, we're really we're resilient we're able,
Starting point is 00:55:14 we're able to have been able to have we're able to we're more, we're more, we're plus divan and it's true.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Oh, but we, but we, the risks in the game video, for example. Hey, boy. The emotions are. Now, there. I'm playing at Mario tennis,
Starting point is 00:55:28 and the time-sci, I'm assouffled after the party. Well, I'm sure. It's been too implicated? Yes. I'm fage like when I play to play on the real tennis. Oh, for real.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah, but you can't. But, you know, even if you're, even if you're pretty, because we've said to talk about to say, to everyone, Saie, that I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:44 that in fact, the question of a perceuse functional. Yeah. You're more. It's more. It's more. Xbox.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah, Xbox. Xbox. Wow. Now, it's Hogward Legacy with... But that's a long
Starting point is 00:55:55 I think. It's a long, you can't not get to add to it's extension. And so I'm
Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm probably in the world Harry Potter, I adore that. It's the fun of the quidditch and, you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm not I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not sure I'm not
Starting point is 00:56:13 I'm not to have to have to party to get a little for show video. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:18 yeah on the Dimmachian, it's a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a few. A little bit of a bit. A little bit, I'll have to open it a bit. But, yeah, I'll have to look at it. But, yeah, I'm going to pass. It's, it's a minute, but it's been to a bit of my own. But when I'm going to be, because when I read, when I'm going to do it, it's all right,
Starting point is 00:56:35 and it's all right? It's been a good thing, so. It's been garrie. I'm really guiri. I'm just going to get it, in the jones. I'm going to start, in the jones. At which moment of your life, you're you sent to destabilized? What's
Starting point is 00:56:48 you have not received of your parents and who you've been to have you
Starting point is 00:56:52 have you have been to be at a time to do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:56:56 have you do to be it's difficult it's difficult it's so, it's so
Starting point is 00:57:03 it's so um um we're just I'm just I'm just I'm justabilized but
Starting point is 00:57:10 I'm still the time destabilized but I'm you're often destabilized but you
Starting point is 00:57:16 too you're I'm Stobeyed. Soosestimed, it's not to what who...
Starting point is 00:57:22 That's not to what I'm... It's not to what I'm that I'm that's perhaps a chance that I Yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:30 to be... Yeah, ...dottott People, rather, more... But the people have...
Starting point is 00:57:34 ...and without your potential, I'm not too, I'm not so... Uh-huh. At what
Starting point is 00:57:38 you have you to be to to be able? Okay, I'll be able to get to what you're not received of the parents and
Starting point is 00:57:45 that's... Uh-oh. Well, no, but there, I mean, I've got, I've got, I've ever, I've, I've, I've been a very good infance. I, I'm sure. I don't change anything. I've really, I've got, I'm glad in Gaspi, in a mansion of Pierre Deschance, on the board of the mare, on the bay of
Starting point is 00:58:07 Chalear. What to demand of plus, really? That's clear. With two parents, super, aimant, still who are they're still at this
Starting point is 00:58:19 year to they're super yeah, more I'm more I'm more I'm more I'm more I'm
Starting point is 00:58:27 remarked these new new my parents are quite cool in the fact they're not that's
Starting point is 00:58:36 I've not received two that's I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:58:42 I'm probably pointe exactly that's something in I'm... I'm...
Starting point is 00:58:48 I'm not the... I'm not the... But it's not the boot where, just the boot, or just...
Starting point is 00:58:54 Justly, I'm... Yeah. I'm still, someone who I'm trying to I'm I'm just...
Starting point is 00:58:59 And she you're not you're not to try? But... But, but... But,
Starting point is 00:59:04 it's still bizarre because my mother is a person a person a so much
Starting point is 00:59:07 a buchon an buchon of emotion. My dad he's more intovertis, he's
Starting point is 00:59:13 more in his maybe the part the part intellectual so I have received the
Starting point is 00:59:20 the mix the two but I know exactly what I'm I'm the boot or
Starting point is 00:59:26 how we had made for that Sam he's a laise in the all the
Starting point is 00:59:33 all the contact physical and all what's the relationship love
Starting point is 00:59:39 all what's sexuality also we would say that
Starting point is 00:59:43 to be to be a manned I'm not a candidate a kind of when we when we
Starting point is 00:59:50 were sure I'm sure that's very very silencier very in my head but we didn't say what
Starting point is 00:59:56 the problem to do you I think I was a kind of of the I'm a sister of
Starting point is 01:00:02 I'm a year and she and she she's not like like I'm like like
Starting point is 01:00:09 like me but it's like a partour classic in the point of view, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:16 that's at the university, she's she's been a student, she had been a chum, they've got used the
Starting point is 01:00:22 children, the car, the animal, you know, the rave American, the model. So,
Starting point is 01:00:29 me, I, I'm a, I'm a bit, but I'm really, I'm so
Starting point is 01:00:34 that my son's to be there to bring to my parents, because I'm really the
Starting point is 01:00:39 other boot where, I'm, I'm, I'm an artist in a appart
Starting point is 01:00:41 in New York, do, do you? Is, do you your parents? Yes,
Starting point is 01:00:45 he abit in Montreal now. He abit to be able to Parboe is that? No,
Starting point is 01:00:50 of New Richmond Oh, you know, New Richmond okay, okay, because I'm I'm in
Starting point is 01:00:56 my family he came to, the gaspies, of Gascone, which is not very long, that's, it's all
Starting point is 01:01:02 long, it's all right, so, so they're doing they're doing to see, they're going to see,
Starting point is 01:01:06 they're doing to see, they're doing they're doing but you're but you're they're appalled that
Starting point is 01:01:12 in the Fierty, you're going to see, you go to see, you go to have a scene, it's
Starting point is 01:01:17 quite a impressioning. Yeah, and they're saying, they're who are that,
Starting point is 01:01:23 but they're that, but certainly, I think that we , we know, we learn
Starting point is 01:01:29 to be that's that I'm, that I see, at what point it's
Starting point is 01:01:34 they're at what their point, ah, but our son we're we're
Starting point is 01:01:38 not, we're sure, we're that he had done his little chime and he
Starting point is 01:01:44 he's I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry but you have perhaps
Starting point is 01:01:49 to be missing something that's just it's a trait of their personality even if your
Starting point is 01:01:54 mother is your and you get old and you can't be in people
Starting point is 01:01:58 they're well it's you're you have you have you have you
Starting point is 01:02:03 have been an ambiance a little sexual there is there's a lot of stuff to
Starting point is 01:02:09 but it It doesn't say that's not correct, it's just that you're just that you're more reserved,
Starting point is 01:02:14 it's all. So, I think that's clear that you know, you know, even in the you're doing
Starting point is 01:02:19 you're in the end of the but it's not like a grave error of parents, it's just
Starting point is 01:02:24 part of all the things that it's to be, I mean, the parents come with
Starting point is 01:02:28 their personality, it's normal. You're you're a bit jeanneed. But you're a bit of the situation
Starting point is 01:02:34 to be the change. It's not grave, it's just a fact. No, no.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Chimine, recently they have been about a exposition of an artist of the
Starting point is 01:02:45 queer who are going to be able to work to be in my God, I don't to know
Starting point is 01:02:50 to what you do you are there. They're going to all right they're they're
Starting point is 01:02:55 they're and they're and they sometimes when I'm talking I talk of a little more spontaneous,
Starting point is 01:03:04 I'm trying to I'm to be able to to be sure? You're sure? You're you're
Starting point is 01:03:10 you're thinking to repercussions financial, and they've been very surprised in saying, if you,
Starting point is 01:03:16 if you think that's that you're that's not, you know, it's quite it's quite that's a
Starting point is 01:03:23 very, I'm quite a question, so it has been much that's it's
Starting point is 01:03:27 very, yeah, really, are cool. They're are cool. Is that you're going
Starting point is 01:03:31 to talk to sexuality with them now? Now, now? No, no.
Starting point is 01:03:36 No, I'm I'm still, I'm It's a conjoint. So we're not... But it's logic with what we said
Starting point is 01:03:43 a lot of, more I'm a person who's in a person who's in my life in a lot of time. Because the line is too...
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's serried. We have too an historic that would be more than to change the dynamic in... Yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:00 but now we're talking to I'm talking to see not well, that's that it comes to attack my comfort.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Are you that's change in the same as the contact of Mary Lenn
Starting point is 01:04:11 of your other amy, is he think you think you that's that's
Starting point is 01:04:16 more, that's more, that's more, that's, well, I think that yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:21 and they they're they're they're they're many in a part of
Starting point is 01:04:28 some in a little comments to write, they're in textos
Starting point is 01:04:33 it's more easy, or in the comments public these posts.
Starting point is 01:04:39 But you're you're often, you know, we're doing we're doing sometimes it's always
Starting point is 01:04:46 I'm going to I'm sure, I'm looking at a time time they're they're on the mis-a-jour
Starting point is 01:04:53 abdomadair How they're how they're how they're saying? France and France and France and
Starting point is 01:04:58 I'm sorry I've been I've been saying like France and Francoe the couple all the
Starting point is 01:05:04 people have since they're wow it's beautiful Well, yeah, it's They're... It's these...
Starting point is 01:05:09 It's a... How they call it These sweetheart? I don't. High school Sweetheart? Sweetheart? Sweetheart?
Starting point is 01:05:16 Squietard? Is it? Is it? Is it? Absolutely. But, you know, it's correct, so? It's not true.
Starting point is 01:05:25 It's true. But, I'm... But, I'm... I'm... I'm... Because the first time that I made this question,
Starting point is 01:05:30 that, I said not really, there's a lot that you know that when she's there. And, uh, it's very
Starting point is 01:05:37 touching this response. You can't you're to get a question. It's never
Starting point is 01:05:42 for blesses the parents, but it's kind of our history to us as we're
Starting point is 01:05:45 also as often, yeah, but I'm feel like to talkable, on the
Starting point is 01:05:53 podcast or in my book, we're like I'm afraid to, I'm don't,
Starting point is 01:05:58 I'm not to bring too the gown but I don't dress a portrait.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yes, because in my time you don't know, they're they could have done it. You know, we're doing, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:07 they're doing, but there's kind of, you know, like me, for example, we've done we've done to do many would be interesting to have this reflection, to say,
Starting point is 01:06:17 but for the children, it's what the impact in their life, to always be deracined two times per year, three times per
Starting point is 01:06:23 year, you know, he was not malintentioned, but, you, let's see, my, the consequences of that, I, you're trying
Starting point is 01:06:31 to try, you're kind of, you're, we're, we're, oh, and we're repart, you know, it's like you control not that, when you're an infant,
Starting point is 01:06:39 but, you know, but it's, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's just,
Starting point is 01:06:46 I think, I'm just, I think, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm sure that, I'm sure that, I'd be sure, I'd be toned
Starting point is 01:06:52 to be able to be able to be able to, be, well, yeah, yeah, well,
Starting point is 01:06:57 well, because, it's, it's, if you want, repary that, or, or,
Starting point is 01:07:03 explain, why, you know, I never really the doubt, I like much the clarity. So, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:10 if they're on the issue, a cause of a thing that's something that's something that's interesting,
Starting point is 01:07:16 maybe it's interesting, maybe they're if they're that's it's true. You know, when you're when you're
Starting point is 01:07:22 saying, ah, okay, because there's there people that I'm saying, well,
Starting point is 01:07:26 I mean, there's there's there's, imagine I'm there's an idea, it would,
Starting point is 01:07:31 it's error by this is you are wrong. But no, but it would be interesting to understand your parents on their jeanne to express certain things invers their children.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I'm sure that he thinks to say, if we're been more jeaned, maybe you'd be, and then you'd have, obviously, it's also nious than that, and even they've had been
Starting point is 01:07:49 and then after, you'd be perhaps to be perhaps at saying, there, I'd be not too jeaned for it and finally, it becomes that
Starting point is 01:07:57 the real apprenticeship that's legged, you Yeah, yeah, but it's Because it's in opening the discussion that's a repair, that's
Starting point is 01:08:04 the worded communication. The communication. But it's too fascistian, but it's not what to say, it's a bad
Starting point is 01:08:10 in communication. But no, but it's all the time, I'm sure, it's, when we do the tone
Starting point is 01:08:16 with the one of the question, there's a lot of the communication that you have well,
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Starting point is 01:09:54 I don't know. It's the sorcery that's going to be here. It's the sorcery of Mary Claude. In arrival, I said, well, I see that we're talking about to say, and then, I'm going to say, and then, you know, it's a... Because, so, we'd say, I don't, I see I don't know, I don't know, I'm not to say to.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Is it uprope? Well, I'm going to talk about that. Okay, well, you're not going to say. No, I'm going to, say, yeah, I'm going to, say, no, but it's because it's clearly the most interesting, I have an impression, but,
Starting point is 01:10:17 I'm not, I'm probably, I've been perhaps 13, 14, 14, 14, 14, a little bit, so, so, so, it's really a thing that, like, who's really, Do you know, is it your decision?
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah, a little plus my decision when, but after it's a decision that in movement in all these
Starting point is 01:10:46 years, and then, it's almost 15 years, 16 years. Yeah, because you say you'd
Starting point is 01:10:54 you know, you're probably a change of message, brief, at some in fact, in fact,
Starting point is 01:10:58 there was, my mom and and my dad and my and my that, you know, who's, that's done
Starting point is 01:11:04 with, you know, divorce, complicated, and chican, and all that, and then I've kept a line with my mother,
Starting point is 01:11:10 but my mother, she's so, she's so, she's really really, this separation that,
Starting point is 01:11:15 so it's been very much to be a person, and our relationship, and our relationship,
Starting point is 01:11:19 and we're never, like, I've never, like, to, I don't, to,
Starting point is 01:11:27 a, it's, it's really always, always, complicated. On the coup, I
Starting point is 01:11:31 really really because I'm an child, so I'm not, with the recule,
Starting point is 01:11:36 there's plenty of things that I'm not, so I'm to get a thing, to his
Starting point is 01:11:41 frustration against my and it's but it and with the recul also, I'm
Starting point is 01:11:46 that I understand that I'm sure, it's a bit of a commas because I'm a
Starting point is 01:11:52 child, so I'm not the only the other not the thing, but
Starting point is 01:11:55 not the separation no. No, No, but it's true to When you're young it's hard
Starting point is 01:12:00 to understand It's hard to understand it's sure but I think there's a stereotype kind of that's
Starting point is 01:12:08 that made to not not he's not like to not you don't not a chance sometimes
Starting point is 01:12:16 to make of the marriage who live these separations and the relations complicated and we're
Starting point is 01:12:20 rapid to say to I don't to not let their chance and I'm after for
Starting point is 01:12:26 having lived of the relations, and having encountered these men in my life and have been
Starting point is 01:12:31 of love, and have been in the same, I'm going to be at his place after, and I'm doing, I'm doing,
Starting point is 01:12:37 I'm doing, how it's a sense, I think, we can't not have suburb that a same thing,
Starting point is 01:12:43 because the kids, they choose not, but yeah, but it's certainly, I think,
Starting point is 01:12:48 the culpability to not to talk about to say, I'm not often, I'm not often,
Starting point is 01:12:53 because I know, because I It's not in nature, you know, to not to not talk to her. Yeah, and it's ingrat. I think that all the first thing, you know, the first thing, you said,
Starting point is 01:13:02 it's, frankly, it's your mother. Force, you a little. But it's... But it depends, it's that I receive, in case. I understand, no, I understand that you
Starting point is 01:13:11 can receive, it's the cell, but, you know, for me, it's it's a profound. Ah, yeah. For me, it's for me, it's is a kind of a
Starting point is 01:13:17 bloodsure, that, you know, it's an handicap, a little, it's like a morseau that, you know, because she, she exists,
Starting point is 01:13:24 she's, she's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:13:29 no, no, really not, but it's sure that, you know, he, you, see, he, he's rematched with an old
Starting point is 01:13:35 and then, so I'm, so I'm, so, that, and she had been, like, it's, like, been a year, it's, it,
Starting point is 01:13:42 a figure of my life, and with who I, and with who, he's still, even if he's he's been with this woman
Starting point is 01:13:47 again, and it, And it's a little Devenu the figure maternal for me So this place But it's not my Mare, the blassure
Starting point is 01:13:57 is not repaired, but Is that you think that he could have a contact eventually? Is it that
Starting point is 01:14:03 could be repaired? I'm wondering. We have already to try at certain moments but it's really it's really a chan of mine
Starting point is 01:14:12 it's complicated, because it's not all the world that advance on the same rhythm in life and it's not
Starting point is 01:14:17 all the people who pardoned, so she I don't she's not she's not she's
Starting point is 01:14:21 not a part of the so it's a little hard to get to accept the proposal that
Starting point is 01:14:29 she's, I'm still always because there's like something that's something that doesn't,
Starting point is 01:14:34 exactly, and it's how you can't, how you can't how you know, and I'm
Starting point is 01:14:38 just that that's that I'm that I'm trying to do you do you try,
Starting point is 01:14:43 in the in certain of my relations more personal, like if I wanted
Starting point is 01:14:46 repair, it's really of the psychology, but some like my my time, but like I'm
Starting point is 01:14:51 like I'm like my marriage with my mother with my wife and my wife and me, it's not,
Starting point is 01:14:56 she'll have not been repair, you know, and it's not like that's not like that's that's not the person
Starting point is 01:15:05 that you choose in your life, it's not the good. It's wasn't not the good
Starting point is 01:15:10 I'm sure, I'm because your motivation, it's not your question, it's not,
Starting point is 01:15:16 It had no rapport with my business. And it's for that some people people say, how you
Starting point is 01:15:19 do you do you do it? Like, how do you keep in the and you're like, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:15:25 we know what? You know, he's like, get the out of the he's all we, we, we know,
Starting point is 01:15:30 there's a thing, that's a kind of, and that that's I have to have to
Starting point is 01:15:36 have a and I think that's that's a a little. And then I'm so I'm
Starting point is 01:15:40 and I'm after, I'm there I'm there for who for who at the I'm not for the
Starting point is 01:15:46 bad affair. So I think it's a rest. There's a desire in I'm saying, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:15:51 I'd say, it's a thing I'm saying, if it's something that's a regular or if it's just a part of more.
Starting point is 01:15:58 You know, you know, it's probably to that. You know, a bit of a parachute, perhaps.
Starting point is 01:16:06 But, you know, in the phone, in your relationship amical, or that, I'm like
Starting point is 01:16:09 I'm the impression that you adapt to both to others, you know, it's what you do,
Starting point is 01:16:15 have lived with that as a where is the where's the place as a child, you know, young ado also,
Starting point is 01:16:23 you know, young ado, is kind of a period really extremely extremely, where we're we're asking,
Starting point is 01:16:28 or we're repositioned in their own, and you, at this moment that you search your place,
Starting point is 01:16:32 but you when you when you did t'clock, you know, I was that my mother, when she
Starting point is 01:16:39 had, when she's separated to my father, we'd demenage, at every year we'd and she'd and had
Starting point is 01:16:43 she'd change to chum, and I'd always always the impression to be an adult in a life of a child
Starting point is 01:16:48 who, who'd encounter these new chum, who can't be able to be a bit in representation,
Starting point is 01:16:56 we'd like I'm not a lot of you're an infant, you're an unique, too? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:17:02 yeah, I'm at that's only right, but at the moment, I'm feeling like I'm like I'm
Starting point is 01:17:07 an employee, an employee, an adult, that there's a new there's a new a new man there's like like we're like
Starting point is 01:17:13 we're like it's like it's like I'm like you feel like it's so I'm feeling, I'm sure sure
Starting point is 01:17:22 sure shaltiveable, I'm gentey chowat so that it's, it's, it's it's construed bizarrely
Starting point is 01:17:28 and I think that it's that's that's actually not not a relation of my wife
Starting point is 01:17:33 which was like a life sometimes of equal and equal and there sometimes she had
Starting point is 01:17:39 that's always, she'd be able to equal because she had my mother, but it's like, no, no, but I'm, but I'm at least
Starting point is 01:17:43 to be in my supernova like, like, like, why, that's, it's not all of
Starting point is 01:17:49 that's not, it's not, you know, it's, it's, it's, I'm, the same question,
Starting point is 01:17:54 that's, it's, it's, it's, because I, know, she's, they're going to
Starting point is 01:17:59 be, to be, to be, they're going to be there, to be able to and I'm wanting,
Starting point is 01:18:03 and I'm have you been a child? And I'm to have to have been to be saying,
Starting point is 01:18:10 well, I mean with the parallel with Xavier, the film I'm doing my my mother, it's the film that I've
Starting point is 01:18:15 the film, and it's the scene tell-k that I've that I've that I've never had
Starting point is 01:18:25 the occasion to it's to be in to be in having to it's really that you know,
Starting point is 01:18:29 a point when you're you're doing, it's in it's in it's in it's in it's in my
Starting point is 01:18:33 head practically, And so I don't what I'm not what I'm I don't really I'm really really not really
Starting point is 01:18:39 not, I'm responded to know it's so but no but no how, how it's not, you can't
Starting point is 01:18:47 there's not there's not there's a place there, it's what it's what if I actually I'm
Starting point is 01:18:50 like a man end up at and date and you know, I mean I'm disorganise and I'm I'm gash the
Starting point is 01:18:58 person that's like you're trying to try to try to but you're a point but you're
Starting point is 01:19:03 I don't know if I was she was able to be to kick in and then to... Yeah, and at the adolescence has you had to have been
Starting point is 01:19:09 to put in there? Well, yeah, I've been I'm sorry, and I'm and I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Yeah, yeah, rapidly, I was like, well, well, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:19:19 I'm, I'm, I'm saying, I'm in the same, because I'm, I'm in a same,
Starting point is 01:19:24 I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, it's, it's, I'm, I'm, I went to,
Starting point is 01:19:29 my car, and I was like, and then I was I was just like I'm really like a very very serviable and kind of
Starting point is 01:19:38 a little alert but my when I was when I was talking to when I was when I called when my mother or when my my mother
Starting point is 01:19:48 it's like I'm like you're when you're when you're when you're I'm a bit that and it's like I'm saying I'm not sure I'm not
Starting point is 01:19:54 I'm not sure I can imagine the infant that he does be adapted to some milieu to be to to this life that
Starting point is 01:20:01 at what you at what you're at you're you're you're you're in you're just free to be able to
Starting point is 01:20:04 be able to be able to be able to be able to my personality really, but sincerely I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:20:12 I'm going to not, but you're kind of the sequels of this period of your of your life.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yes, but I think she, I think she she has really really mal viku the
Starting point is 01:20:23 separation and that's sure that she she's not she can't she can't she can't she's all
Starting point is 01:20:28 she'll be she can't it's clearly if it's clearly that's shekel she I think,
Starting point is 01:20:34 she's she'll have, she'll, I mean don't even not imagine, like, to say,
Starting point is 01:20:39 to say, to say, you know, because you know, sometimes, me'll be, it's your
Starting point is 01:20:44 mother, but, you know, for me, to the exterior, who's also of the great-feil,
Starting point is 01:20:49 for me, I'd make responsible, like, there, to say, it's, there's
Starting point is 01:20:54 there's a reparation. You, you know, a way, you know, how it's how it's
Starting point is 01:20:59 how it's, you, I'm the impression that it's like it's like more to make a but how we're
Starting point is 01:21:06 not in the I'm the impression that she's she's in the time you're she's a yeah, she's she's not
Starting point is 01:21:13 it's not you're not I'm not I see not I know, I know, because you know you say
Starting point is 01:21:19 you can't you can't be able to you can't be able to because that's there, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:24 you know there's like there's there can't there can't there can't there you can't
Starting point is 01:21:29 I think it does participate why I'm not capable to be just in train to relaxes. There's a an state of vigilance.
Starting point is 01:21:36 There's a, yeah, there's a state of culpability and of, yeah, who, who has really,
Starting point is 01:21:42 really, really, to be there, that's sure. You know, there's, but it's that it's perfect,
Starting point is 01:21:48 you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:21:51 it's, we're probably, it's, there's, there's, to be a situation ideal, even if it's
Starting point is 01:21:57 , it's always fragile, the situation, certainly, You know, I did make a series Tell, Mare, tell Mert,
Starting point is 01:22:01 Fee, at Canalevy, where we had a duo Mere Fee, who had there's in the series American, because it's,
Starting point is 01:22:09 it's a reprenn't a American, it had a little call that that said, the relationship, it's the
Starting point is 01:22:14 relationship Mare Fee that's the most complex. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's really that relation that's the
Starting point is 01:22:20 problem, it's a situation at the house with my mother and my mother and my son.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Yeah, I was more more, it's the most complex, but I'm
Starting point is 01:22:29 Matrice, always, you know, when an infant becomes like a adult
Starting point is 01:22:34 too old for not to be not to just to say, I'm there, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:22:41 always an infant when an child, it's the spontaneity, and it's what you're
Starting point is 01:22:46 in your life now. Yes, but I see what I observe the plus at the
Starting point is 01:22:51 friends of my family, or even my friend, my my sister who have,
Starting point is 01:22:55 my friend of my my son, I'm I say, I always say, ayoy, oh, felicitation, because your
Starting point is 01:23:00 children, they're good, I'm in, and the questions that are in the questions that are, and how they're in the time,
Starting point is 01:23:08 they're really these real children, and we're like, I appreciate that. I'm like, you're really really good
Starting point is 01:23:14 that, because he's at a less of not, to be in representation, to not, to be in
Starting point is 01:23:19 trying to to be able to be able, I'm not, they're just these children,
Starting point is 01:23:22 in the if you, do you, want, do you, do you want, Not too, no. Not too, no.
Starting point is 01:23:27 But I adore the kids. I'm super-proached of my friends and really, really. But, yeah, it's sure that
Starting point is 01:23:33 when you're in even with your mother, it's not, you know, the people, the world, and that,
Starting point is 01:23:39 I'm not. Is it? You're not? Yeah. It's more, yeah. It's more, the first thing
Starting point is 01:23:44 I'm coming when I think to have a one of, I'm saying, I've had a man, and I've been
Starting point is 01:23:47 to be a man, and I've been talking, no, so, but it's, it's a Yes, it's a
Starting point is 01:23:53 Because it's a theme that's a time that's your time, you want, you want to be to be the
Starting point is 01:24:00 preferred. It's like, it's a lot of the idea that's a man, I'm not, but it's so,
Starting point is 01:24:06 so it's for that it's like, it's like, it's not constructed on this base that, so,
Starting point is 01:24:10 but after, I've always said if I wanted someone who wanted really, really, really,
Starting point is 01:24:14 really, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, it's, so, it's not, it's not a,
Starting point is 01:24:20 it's not a, but it will really never come to me. That's guaranteed I'm not
Starting point is 01:24:25 I'm not not as reassurant in the month to say I'm in a lot of that's you know
Starting point is 01:24:31 to be there all the importance that's that's sure, it's sure and it's sure and it
Starting point is 01:24:35 for me when it's like it's like it's like we it's like a whole time that has like
Starting point is 01:24:43 a value for me even that's like a line to have a same value for me. You think that we
Starting point is 01:24:53 sometimes I sometimes I'm because we know, because I'm also I'm also, I'm the impression that my
Starting point is 01:24:59 life will be constructed on more than on the love or I'm not even not to think
Starting point is 01:25:07 to the idea to have I'm saying I've identified rapidly in my life that would not for
Starting point is 01:25:13 me. And you think you that you, you know, as we've done that it's not
Starting point is 01:25:19 the potential to create a cellul familial? Surement, maybe, I'm perhaps, I don't know, in the same time, I see some people around me who are
Starting point is 01:25:29 these cellul familial and who have left plenty of place to the amitia. I think just that we have many, we can have a lot of
Starting point is 01:25:37 many, but I think it's actually have some have some different, and be able, be able,
Starting point is 01:25:44 be able to live with plenty of phases of our amities, like, our our amit
Starting point is 01:25:48 is transform, but rest really solid at each time when it's so I think if we're if we're also
Starting point is 01:25:56 that's always you're having to think. You're saying you're saying well, but I'm sorry but I'm
Starting point is 01:26:04 much what you have been to talk about to I'm saying not to say Mark Claude but you had been
Starting point is 01:26:09 with the card I'm I'd say I'm saying that's not possible, you're really like the tarot
Starting point is 01:26:15 and you know that I'm know that you didn't know not of you know? Not due to You're sure that she will
Starting point is 01:26:21 make a card on that. Not to do It's a paro, I'm not the tarot, you're in not really,
Starting point is 01:26:26 you're doing you're in person because just just like I know that I'm doing to hear of that I'm afraid
Starting point is 01:26:32 that's very diversified, sometimes it's fusional, it's, it's, it's it depends, and sometimes
Starting point is 01:26:38 we're a mother of a woman, and the situation is different, but it's
Starting point is 01:26:43 sure you know, I'm sure that I'm sure I'm a class, Mare Club Space Meweses
Starting point is 01:26:46 Monde, we're many of many members presentment. And at all the weeks I do with the moment
Starting point is 01:26:52 there's a moment of the moment there's a moment there's just about the time, she, I don't remember how it's formular,
Starting point is 01:26:58 but see, because I feel like, they're in doing, we're all in Zoom, that's, she's,
Starting point is 01:27:04 she thought that during that she said, let's say, maybe three years, that they had not done, she had been
Starting point is 01:27:09 to say, there's not to say, well, my female, my fee, and there's it's like,
Starting point is 01:27:14 it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I would have never thought to you'd say that
Starting point is 01:27:19 because it's like if it's a cheque in a life to say, I've got a child, and the
Starting point is 01:27:27 line, and for all sorts of reasons. There's a new conjoin, the new conjoint, the new issues of the
Starting point is 01:27:35 problem. But you can't be a problem, but you can't be in peace with a relationship that's, you
Starting point is 01:27:45 know, especially when the two parents, the two persons are existent, So, so you've got to find out
Starting point is 01:27:49 Ayer But you're But you're I'm looking at I'm sorry I'm not PIR, but it's not
Starting point is 01:27:56 It's like It's not a new subject Freight and I've made Tremend Trey, so I'm
Starting point is 01:28:04 You're going to You're going to get to Well, I'm not I'm not because I'm because I'm
Starting point is 01:28:09 because I'm because I'm because I'm It's just that when it's when it's I'm 15 years
Starting point is 01:28:14 that you consult and that you're that stuff that you deborsoe Well, obviously, that it's not, the emotion is not there
Starting point is 01:28:20 at every time I'm talking. It's kind of a great blessing, but it's just that I've, I'm just that I've, I've already have profound, but there's still,
Starting point is 01:28:28 you know, you're there's a, you're not, you don't know, that's, you know, that's, you know, that's, you know, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:28:35 you're probably a feartie also of that, you know, if you ever, you've had an infant, and it will probably probably well,
Starting point is 01:28:42 because what you're that's still, it's kind of the majority, no, no, it's so, it's so,
Starting point is 01:28:46 of the relations. It's what I'm that I'm to find out of Maison. Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, I feel
Starting point is 01:28:53 to have to play in your song. It's true. Yeah, I'm retient. No, but I imagine
Starting point is 01:28:58 the little that's, that's at table and you're to try to and it's like it's like it's like
Starting point is 01:29:04 and not the other that's to be the other to the time. Yeah, but it's
Starting point is 01:29:11 so, but it's so it's too to say to all the world, you know, I mean, I see,
Starting point is 01:29:15 But it's in your temperament. It's in my temperament. So, so, so maybe he would have been other than, and I'd
Starting point is 01:29:20 have been set like that also, but the situation has like exacerbed this affair that in more. So,
Starting point is 01:29:25 you've been young adult. Young adult, really, oh, yeah, that's for that's really to be doing
Starting point is 01:29:31 there's a thing, you know, there's a thing, you know, there's a there's been there's been to exist.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Oh, my God, I'd have not been to have been to do life, so,
Starting point is 01:29:38 I'm sure, I'm I'm a back on I've got a daughter, it's sure. There's not no way to
Starting point is 01:29:43 two tours of manage. Now, the level there's five questions, you have to you have a
Starting point is 01:29:50 three. Okay, then we turn and then we're to turn, and you'll be and then you will be able to
Starting point is 01:29:56 the same. Well, this, and the other, we want to what? Celle one,
Starting point is 01:30:02 then I'm then I'm will be there, you'll be all the same. There, we're still,
Starting point is 01:30:07 we're still, with What's close deceased would you partage a repat
Starting point is 01:30:11 what? What is your point? We can't even, we're by choosing
Starting point is 01:30:17 to a other, we're on a lot, you have to you're to me on another?
Starting point is 01:30:21 She'll me on that. Have you already attained your physical or
Starting point is 01:30:26 psychological? What is your part of ombr? Oh, is like poetic
Starting point is 01:30:31 that? Part of ombr Yeah, is that you want to, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:34 the space of some, sometimes we don't don't to be you know, sometimes the impatience,
Starting point is 01:30:39 the collar, or, um, the things that we don't, that's, that's, we're more,
Starting point is 01:30:45 I'm like, we're like, we're doing, one for the two? Yeah, because I, can't,
Starting point is 01:30:50 we're trying to, we're trying to, we're not, we're quite, not, not, not, not too, not too,
Starting point is 01:30:56 not more, really, really, not so, so, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:30:59 so, so, uh, , rapport to the , yeah, I, we,
Starting point is 01:31:04 we, There are some of the limits physical and psychologic. Yeah, some of the game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared.
Starting point is 01:31:21 That's why I remember 988 Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime.
Starting point is 01:31:33 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. It's good, it's just like I'm saying, that's more by the time. It's more than the
Starting point is 01:31:44 time. It's like that we're going, often with our spectacle and all, it's been kind of a moment of the limit.
Starting point is 01:31:51 We can't talk about that. You want to talk to that? We can't a little bit. Okay, but we talk about the
Starting point is 01:31:56 the limits physical and psychological, but we're, we're, it's in duo, it's that's,
Starting point is 01:32:01 we've been we've been in the same time, and then we're, like, we're,
Starting point is 01:32:05 when is when is we attain the limit of one, and when is not the of the other, and at
Starting point is 01:32:09 after of when we're when we're in a spectacle and we're doing a whole of a
Starting point is 01:32:13 whole we've made a whole we've made a turn of stand-up in the podcast. We do the podcast, in
Starting point is 01:32:19 studio, we do it in live in public like you do you do it, and we did a
Starting point is 01:32:23 show we're a we're a simple, simple, simple, like a formula, we do you
Starting point is 01:32:29 make a one of the little sketch at two between between the two at the end,
Starting point is 01:32:34 it's a final, it has been a good defy professional and personal, yeah, it's been something because, in fact,
Starting point is 01:32:41 we're trying to, it's our first time that we did a first time mediatique, with, you know, in these real sal, in these real cell. And it was, like, important with a pressure,
Starting point is 01:32:54 and it's when there's a pressure, and an importance that we're in front to, I think, of our limits and of our capacity, and then we're not the same rhythm, we're not
Starting point is 01:33:03 made, so, we're kind of at a moment of a plateau where we've said, to be to be able to to do it if we're
Starting point is 01:33:11 to do it, if we're annuled the tourn't or not. It was really like, during the production.
Starting point is 01:33:16 When we when we were at maybe two months, three months of the first that time, that the show
Starting point is 01:33:24 was a he had been not quite created, but it were the last mill to accomplish
Starting point is 01:33:31 the poofinage of the thing, the pressure was at some cause? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:33:35 the pressure is, is it came of the exterior, for example, at the end of the whole of the
Starting point is 01:33:40 all the board, it's our good, it's our proposition that's, what we have to be like to artists,
Starting point is 01:33:46 what we're to do you, the production is content, we don't know that it's not quite, it's all
Starting point is 01:33:52 that's all I'm not, I'm doing, I'm gonna it, it's a matter that, it's a thing
Starting point is 01:33:58 it's a thing, it's full how it's it's been really, you refresh your
Starting point is 01:34:02 ticket master oh, yeah, because we, we, And we've done, you're like these grand sal, with Overe Tons'U, well, it's been too, it's a
Starting point is 01:34:11 big too grand for O'Vroton Your Show, you know, it's been like, oh, I'm going to live that, that's a special, I'd like to, I'd like to gobble and, I'm anguassed. But it's that, you know, you're not the same, because it's the
Starting point is 01:34:25 case of several artists. We'd wouldre all the time to partire a tourne, and we're doing these little sales, like that, it's sold out, everywhere. We'll be sold out. But, you know, in a production, it's not
Starting point is 01:34:36 always that's not that's that's it's a it's a big thing, it's a
Starting point is 01:34:42 15% but we're in a time of the stages are not even that's not we're not we're not
Starting point is 01:34:49 we're at the end of the world? Well, yeah, a flop. But also, because we
Starting point is 01:34:53 know we're it's, it's that it's, it is that we're just to expose our limits than
Starting point is 01:35:00 we could be made if we're not able to if it's just my show or ton show and that's
Starting point is 01:35:05 a meeting with these producers, maybe we're maybe we're getting a general, but we're
Starting point is 01:35:10 very much, that I think we're getting to get a place to live all our emotions plenement, and some of
Starting point is 01:35:17 we're like, oh, is it too, we're too too too too too too devoiled? But we're in situation
Starting point is 01:35:25 of comparison of comparison also, I would say, at the base, it would have decided
Starting point is 01:35:29 who, who who who who plays in first, who, who, who who who who plays, who,
Starting point is 01:35:33 who who, who he's who, It's like posture in the show. That's like a... That's your other who decided?
Starting point is 01:35:41 We're like... We've decided in an team with the productor. With these discussions who are, my way,
Starting point is 01:35:47 I'm trying to make sure. Everyone who does your opinion on who do you should be in first and
Starting point is 01:35:52 why? Who would be the first of the first, I'm, it's like all the
Starting point is 01:35:56 discussions that we try to not have to be there to because we try to
Starting point is 01:36:00 be a duo and to be never the one against the in the
Starting point is 01:36:04 podcast we're We're together. We're not, we're not, you know, we're an equal. We're a dual, you know, but there
Starting point is 01:36:10 it was like the two, it's a same, but also separated, so in comparison, you know, because the, well, the classic
Starting point is 01:36:17 in a pacing of show, is that what he score the more far, we make at the end, what, is the
Starting point is 01:36:23 most, the people are, the people, they're, we're, we're going, to be a there, and there
Starting point is 01:36:29 there was a bit of, so, so, so, I mean, I've passed all the tourne to me say,
Starting point is 01:36:37 Marilene, she's going to be more far than I'm sorry to get in second. There was a So, there was a
Starting point is 01:36:42 comparison, even if you have been in, I mean, I said, it would say, it was the format to be obliged
Starting point is 01:36:48 the comparison. Yeah, so that that we've kind of, it's a grain, it's a , but it
Starting point is 01:36:53 has been farger, it's not of a thing, it's really an experience
Starting point is 01:36:56 professional and personal intense, long of the and also. And also, on the content of our
Starting point is 01:37:03 number respective, that we had in the personnel but sometimes the formula,
Starting point is 01:37:13 a formula, a plateau double like that, we'd like the leggerty of the
Starting point is 01:37:19 subject more, we're I'm in the gaspese I, I've 25 years,
Starting point is 01:37:24 we're that it is to it's it prete plus versus the subjects
Starting point is 01:37:27 that we have in the things that in the rodage
Starting point is 01:37:31 we had to a public a bit confu of, okay, but Sam, why you know we're
Starting point is 01:37:38 at this moment in the spectacle it's too much. It's too much. Now, Marilene just to get to
Starting point is 01:37:46 just to get to your own show, we're not we're not we're not never
Starting point is 01:37:51 I'd like that like that and I regretted so much I'm and I'm
Starting point is 01:37:57 never to make to make love to be to That's a level that. Now, you're
Starting point is 01:38:01 to do it and we're to do you get to it's a it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:38:04 it's, it's, it's, it's, we're not to hear to hear of, that I'm
Starting point is 01:38:11 not good for a subject personal or sexual, or my, or my experience
Starting point is 01:38:17 intimate. We're a bit, I'm a little, I'm a lot, and there's
Starting point is 01:38:23 many, there's there's there's someone? It's just a, it's just,
Starting point is 01:38:27 it's a sentiment. Yeah, I mean, I thought we thought we'd have to be in fill after and say, but what's what? No, no, no, no, no. There's not no, no, no. There's not a point.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Yes, okay. Because, I'm interpret a public who never like a, like, a disabrobation of, but no, but there's been too long. But maybe you're not, maybe. Maybe I'd rather, I'd say that, now.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Well, no, but it's because the public who'd not not, the public rest were. Yeah, yeah, it's a key to. That's a good sign, for example. If the people, they're going to be. If the people, it would have to be as a as a while. But no,
Starting point is 01:39:02 person to quit at the cell. But it's a little challenging on, just where I can go to the subject that I board on the scene. What is,
Starting point is 01:39:11 what is, what is, an, an authenticity that is valid, and what's an authenticity that's a
Starting point is 01:39:20 too much, or maladrored? And, after the, after the coup, is, is, if you would,
Starting point is 01:39:27 , it would have, if you had, always in duo? All the long. Yeah. I don't know. We're going to
Starting point is 01:39:32 that also. We're asked to see, is the people come to see in his attendant to that? At one hour
Starting point is 01:39:37 and a minute, I mean, I thought, and I said, perhaps. The people think, that's the
Starting point is 01:39:44 kind of, maybe we're doing to do that. It was extremely difficult, to create not the same processus, but perhaps that's that's the
Starting point is 01:39:54 real thing more interesting and original, genre. I'm yeah, yeah, I'd like,
Starting point is 01:40:00 if it it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a bad at the
Starting point is 01:40:06 but if, it's sure, but if it's something that we're saying, okay, in 10 years, or I'm,
Starting point is 01:40:11 that I would be to try to a place. A place, a real proposition, it's not
Starting point is 01:40:16 the theater no, but it's a show of duo. Well, yeah, because it's
Starting point is 01:40:20 because it's because it's because, just, you know, because, you're just about,
Starting point is 01:40:25 so, it's just, It's my sole subject of It's my soul of battle Plus of so But if you can Be questioned
Starting point is 01:40:33 It's just I'm saying It's going to It's always When you know When you're When you're People But the
Starting point is 01:40:39 But the Diff It's that we We're That it's It's difficult To have An ping pong
Starting point is 01:40:47 That's Equitable Also Equitable I'd say Natural It's It's
Starting point is 01:40:51 It's It's It's Rapidly It's It's not It's More
Starting point is 01:40:55 At the I think. We're going to be a better. But the effect of comparison we've got to test our limits, but that's tough. You know, to be,
Starting point is 01:41:04 to be to be to be to be compared who, it's, it's, it's, I mean, we're doing it's just, we live in the
Starting point is 01:41:09 world, all the time, it's really, it's not be clear. We're just, it's, we make one at the
Starting point is 01:41:14 other, and then after, then after, then, after, the two, the two persons are, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:20 the two persons are, what I'm in Sam, what we're Mary Lenn, you know, but I'm going to be in the
Starting point is 01:41:26 issue in your amitia? Not too, honestly. Well, I'd say it's not so this tournour
Starting point is 01:41:35 that that that has been challenged. I think it more after. Because that's a discussion that we've
Starting point is 01:41:42 already had on the we two. I'm, I'm I'm in my life, I'm
Starting point is 01:41:49 in the contract she in the amitia that develop, in the link that,
Starting point is 01:41:52 you know, with some people, and I'm and I'm trying to not too don't know
Starting point is 01:42:01 she's she's not she's not she's trying to eat in she's in my face that I'm
Starting point is 01:42:07 a way okay, they're told for this issue, no problem I'm not you're not
Starting point is 01:42:15 capable of it's not not always but I'm not to because we know to because we're
Starting point is 01:42:19 not I'm sure in more than more than with these situations like that. We've talked of
Starting point is 01:42:25 it's like inevitable. We'll live in a second this affair that, and some we've been
Starting point is 01:42:32 communicated, let's talk, my fashion to it's about a certain gig or of certain
Starting point is 01:42:37 affairs, the fashion more sensible or more authentic to try to that we're
Starting point is 01:42:41 and that be sure that's not bizarre between us this discussion that.
Starting point is 01:42:45 I think, I think we can we learn to talk the way the more
Starting point is 01:42:50 possible. It's that that I would say if we if we had put up dark of the I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:42:55 I'm sorry yeah, I'm sorry yeah, it's a good choice it's a my own
Starting point is 01:43:03 you're susceptible Yeah, yeah the critic, you've tried that's hard, well I think that's true
Starting point is 01:43:07 because I'm all the time to do you're doing to do you like when when someone when someone when I'm
Starting point is 01:43:13 you're like, you're too serious? But after the people have the right to have the common, it's
Starting point is 01:43:18 normal, to be to be doing to be I have the critics in life, but I'm doing the measure to
Starting point is 01:43:22 unquested because I'm doing it, but that's not a partying to the other and it's not a lot of,
Starting point is 01:43:26 it's a important. A few, uh, a little, a little, a little, a little,
Starting point is 01:43:35 a little bit, a little bit, a little, quite, yeah, and the jalousy, is that's
Starting point is 01:43:40 in other sphere? Is it is something that's something that's something that's something? I don't,
Starting point is 01:43:47 I don't know I don't, I don't not, I don't, I'm not, the real jalousies, like,
Starting point is 01:43:50 who's that, apart with you know, I'm sorry. A part with your in the
Starting point is 01:43:56 way, yeah, no, the baton of dynamite, because you are the two, Maurice,
Starting point is 01:44:01 because, because, well, it's what I, that I, that I, that I,
Starting point is 01:44:04 that I, that I, had said, to explain, that I'm in my head, we've
Starting point is 01:44:10 had been introduced to a certain public, on the same plateau that was, that all
Starting point is 01:44:16 the whole all the everyone on our side. So in my head, it's sure that if someone
Starting point is 01:44:24 does that you're a sign clear of, we're going to prefer Mary Lenn or we're saying, but I know
Starting point is 01:44:31 that it doesn't work like that. No, and you don't know. But you're because I'm
Starting point is 01:44:38 also, I'm really more more voluntary than you I'm really actually, I'm doing
Starting point is 01:44:44 I do make these different constant for that the things arrive all the time
Starting point is 01:44:49 so it's sure that you have not the hour just of equal to because I'm
Starting point is 01:44:56 I'm going to I'm I'm saying that you do you merit what you get to
Starting point is 01:45:01 you're paying you're that's because I'm because I'm engaged
Starting point is 01:45:05 in this that not with the same with the same motif
Starting point is 01:45:11 that you know you your your your your
Starting point is 01:45:15 your your your your are still provoked by these relations and you've
Starting point is 01:45:22 tended to have tended the perches and you have teleported the CV I'm doing in humor
Starting point is 01:45:28 in saying I'm just be just be a and the success will come to be
Starting point is 01:45:32 that it that's not too, I'm very dissue that. It was very disused of that
Starting point is 01:45:38 yeah, you know, it's a question, that's not my force. So,
Starting point is 01:45:42 you're absolutely reason that we're not not the same but it's but I'm
Starting point is 01:45:47 doing the I'm doing to say, and I'm not because I'm not not been selected for a
Starting point is 01:45:54 or tell or that's because we're not, but it's just but I but the comparison
Starting point is 01:46:00 is null to the way, you're not there's not to be there's there's not
Starting point is 01:46:05 there's there's not there's there's it's fatigant we're it's not it's for
Starting point is 01:46:10 that I'm not validid and say you're not reason to be to feel it's nil.
Starting point is 01:46:15 But I think you're able to be jealous of me. I've tried a situation to be jealous of me.
Starting point is 01:46:19 But I'm sure sure I'm sorry of your intelligence and of your talent, and of your
Starting point is 01:46:23 unicity, I'm I'm doing all the original than you know, yeah, but it's not a minute.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Okay, well, I'm, I've tried, I've tried, I've tried, I, I've tried,
Starting point is 01:46:34 I've tried, I, but you're trying but you will be a tourne like you're not,
Starting point is 01:46:40 it's not prevue, to, we're not, we'd, not each to do you
Starting point is 01:46:44 do with not the same thing, not the thing we're doing to do that do you know, it's a
Starting point is 01:46:51 reason, it's true. It's true. It's a formula, 100% to 2 or completely
Starting point is 01:46:56 other things. But I think that in stand-up, we've found up, we've tried to jimel
Starting point is 01:47:00 our two universe. It's, it's, personally, I mean, you've been physically,
Starting point is 01:47:06 psychologically, you know, psychologically, you know, when you finally, when you were in
Starting point is 01:47:10 when you finished the tourne? But we're fatigued. You're you?
Starting point is 01:47:15 I'm a repel to you know, I'm a in a couple of club souda. Yes. But for
Starting point is 01:47:19 we're really, we were really we're really content of our last show and we had made the capture.
Starting point is 01:47:24 It's a time, and the show has really been able to and we're sure, and I regret
Starting point is 01:47:30 not to have made to have because we we'd never to dood and finally it's
Starting point is 01:47:34 definitely it and finally it's done that we're like we're like we that's like a
Starting point is 01:47:38 mark of that something something that's , but, it's not
Starting point is 01:47:43 perfect, but it's never perfect. But you're a reason, my my jealousy sometimes
Starting point is 01:47:47 that's that I'm that's the other time, I was at the shower, and I'm
Starting point is 01:47:53 like, I'd have to give, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna finish one, on finish one,
Starting point is 01:47:57 on final, on, it's correct, it's good, you can't you can't be calm, you know,
Starting point is 01:48:02 so, so, yeah, I'm also I'm, I'm, so, I'm,
Starting point is 01:48:05 I'm, with the because the show had really really been being in the show, I'm saying it's a nice,
Starting point is 01:48:11 it's a nice, it's a capation, and it's that's available on the platforms for the future. So,
Starting point is 01:48:17 at the final, I'm proud to be able to be able to know, yeah, really, to be respected
Starting point is 01:48:24 to pass on the traverse, we've reached, we're doing, we did the way, we're not
Starting point is 01:48:28 doing so, we're not all the time, we're all right, that's the people are, we're not, we're not,
Starting point is 01:48:33 we're not, the end of the same we'll go soup to the restaurant in the sense that's the same at the same at the same
Starting point is 01:48:40 in the same in the same we're often on the same we're still in the thing, we're still I think that is, is that
Starting point is 01:48:47 is you're is that you am more your our family or at the exterior? At the exterior?
Starting point is 01:48:53 Well, at the I'm not, I'm not much, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:48:59 I'm the two, it's like totally different, but it's, it's because at work I mean, we're so often I'm so content that you're there
Starting point is 01:49:05 when I've got done to get this thing, I'm not saying I'm not quite the real base of our family, and not tinted by all that's in the real
Starting point is 01:49:15 life, obviously, not before, I like more, I like you when we watch on the divan, when we're when we're doing,
Starting point is 01:49:21 when we're we're doing, is that sometimes we're going to say, we're going to imagine I'm going to say,
Starting point is 01:49:26 I'm going to be much that Sam be there's more, you know, our dynamic aid. Because it's
Starting point is 01:49:31 the fun, we've these things in tandem like that because we're we're in perfectly and we're
Starting point is 01:49:37 to be a hot to be in the chair after to be able to do you know is going to do that's going to do you know
Starting point is 01:49:43 we're talking about the soup before our pizza yeah Markle of the sort of the cart and it's
Starting point is 01:49:49 no, but it's sure that you know, to be able to see, you know, imagine you're
Starting point is 01:49:54 someone with your your best being with your for doing it's quite it's hard
Starting point is 01:49:59 well it's it's hard sometimes to live these affairs all Because, you know, when you're talking to
Starting point is 01:50:03 You know, there's a bit There's a bit, you know, there's a... Well, no, exactly. So, yeah, I'm... Yeah, my, I'm sorry, also co-animed for that, but after that, I'm just on, you know, I'm doing... I've been to...
Starting point is 01:50:15 I've got to be... And, you know, I'm afraid, you know, I'm... But, you're... But, you're... No, it's... But, you're true. We, we're...
Starting point is 01:50:23 We're having to be... You're trying to do... You see, you're talking to... You're going to... ...you're... ...you're... okay, it's really
Starting point is 01:50:31 person. It's hard to transmit like emotion. Yeah, it's hard to transmit exactly so you put
Starting point is 01:50:36 to put the B, you're trying to get your little bit on your oh no, okay,
Starting point is 01:50:42 that's Michael Louvine me said, Mavendon he said, you know, you're gonna you're gonna
Starting point is 01:50:46 you're a place of, you do you do a show, you're all a lot, you're all
Starting point is 01:50:51 all in your life, you're all you're all there's there's there's just you're just
Starting point is 01:50:57 a morse of pizza in your fridge of that's a bit of a time to make a time to be it's a super
Starting point is 01:51:02 it's a it's hard that's true the return after. But it's very that I'm
Starting point is 01:51:08 but I'm but I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna yeah I'm gonna yeah
Starting point is 01:51:14 yeah it's a restaurant pizza Pizzeria locali so you're not so you're so
Starting point is 01:51:20 we're gonna you know you can't you know you can't you know you can't that?
Starting point is 01:51:25 Kelle can Kelle can we eliminate oh It's not clear You're eliminating this
Starting point is 01:51:30 I'm going to I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry You can't You can't You can't I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:51:34 I'm trying I'm I'm sorry Okay I'm Okay Okay So that's like Okay
Starting point is 01:51:39 So that's So it's Okay So it's So it's Too cocheon What's So it's
Starting point is 01:51:47 So it So again You know I'm I'm using My Joker What is
Starting point is 01:51:51 What is Your It's It's a Fothil seamed for to make an Mour. Ah!
Starting point is 01:51:59 Ha! Ha! I'm the one. I'm prefer. Fottil she'll be it for love. That's, you're to respond to her?
Starting point is 01:52:07 We're going to her? We're going to say, I'm going to say, if you're going to be able to find out. Yes. Yes. But I thought you're going to say no. Not be beza,
Starting point is 01:52:18 to, fair the more. Oh, excuse me! I think that's that the question. Okay, I'm going to how you've percy I'm not that that I'm
Starting point is 01:52:26 I'm saying just for I'm going to because she's just she's just that she's just she's not she's not
Starting point is 01:52:32 she's like to say for she's yeah, point of interrogation eros but no
Starting point is 01:52:37 but it's sure if you want to do that not not not not
Starting point is 01:52:41 it's it's it's it's very very good it well you're
Starting point is 01:52:47 what, you're what, you're what's the question? What is I'm
Starting point is 01:52:52 going to respond me SENTIRESHERED. Well, yeah, for not to not say,
Starting point is 01:52:59 me feel reassured, that it's correct that I'm here here all new, yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, yeah, it's, and how it can,
Starting point is 01:53:09 it's a name, it, it's, it can be in what I'm in what I'm in my
Starting point is 01:53:15 partner, yeah, it's not the two. I'd be very, I'd say, I'd
Starting point is 01:53:22 really really, I've really, Even in life, in general, you know, the intimacy, it's large, I have the impression.
Starting point is 01:53:26 But, I'm going to be a compliment, a lot of validation. Really, I'm a pukes in fond of that. You're belle,
Starting point is 01:53:34 you're belle, my chrieu. You're be able, you're belle, you know. Is it? Is it a matter? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:40 This validation. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've been saying, a man, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:45 a minute, you know, because you want to you're doing it, or because you're when you're when I'm, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:50 a compliment, I'm I've made say that quite quite. Because you do it for the
Starting point is 01:53:57 to receive for the so, so it's like you're like, you're like, after I didn't,
Starting point is 01:54:02 I think, I was, it was, it was, it was, it was not, it's not, no,
Starting point is 01:54:06 no, I'm, but when you have not the return, well, then, it's like,
Starting point is 01:54:11 it's like, oh, you're, in, in my head, you know, you're,
Starting point is 01:54:14 I'm, she, Mary, Anne, that's, Mary, she appell
Starting point is 01:54:16 for to know to know, you know, he's going to you know, he's going to, he's going to,
Starting point is 01:54:20 what's he's going to what he's going to be able to you, I'm you know, I'm doing it like that.
Starting point is 01:54:26 But it's not that all the time, I'm doing, because I think, but it's true that I'm when I'm
Starting point is 01:54:32 saying, I'm say, oh, I'm going to do you know, I'll say for the good reason, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:54:38 I'm not the question, but there sometimes I think it's correct to have been to have done to the
Starting point is 01:54:43 yeah, you With that, you know, but, yeah, I think and I'm forced, if I say it if I'm not, I'm like, he'm not even not. No, I'm forced to me to say that it's correct. But in your head, if you're not forced not, it, it's saying what? I mean, I'm saying, oh,
Starting point is 01:54:55 he has changed an idea. And then I'm like, I'm trying. Okay, so you know, you're in a mountainous, oh, yeah, it's parachute. The love, it's not simple, simple. It's not simple, it's not simple, it's not simple, oh, but you're amelior.
Starting point is 01:55:10 I'm amelior. Is that you go on some applications? Is that? Now, I'm in couple. Oh, now, you're in court, yeah. Okay, and how it's it happens?
Starting point is 01:55:17 It's past. It's better than it's It's more than it. What's the new? What's the new? What's the new? Well, it's the choice of the person?
Starting point is 01:55:27 It's just a difference? I thought, you're more reassured by that? Well, yeah. But it's a person that's a good for you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:34 It's like, when you're more, when you're when you're reassured, you're more to be more to be able to because,
Starting point is 01:55:39 because, because, the other, the other you don't do't, of what he of what's because
Starting point is 01:55:44 I think I'm often I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure and then finally I'm
Starting point is 01:55:49 I'm in contact with certain people I'm not or I'm really I'm like okay I'm okay I'm my part that and that
Starting point is 01:55:57 and that I keep attention but there's a part that's caused by also the energy of the other and the personality
Starting point is 01:56:04 of the other and there are there people who are insurries particularly and they're not resort
Starting point is 01:56:09 the mayor to be there sometimes sometimes we can sometimes we can have tendency to want to
Starting point is 01:56:13 convict these people and there's like the energy and it's like that we're to make to meet,
Starting point is 01:56:18 we're at doubted. Yeah, so you've found that someone who's who's
Starting point is 01:56:23 who, who's, who is calm and who is a and he's gentie yeah,
Starting point is 01:56:29 yeah, really, but I haven't, but I'd not think you that you'd be like
Starting point is 01:56:34 time of that complimented and reassured and I'm perhaps I'm
Starting point is 01:56:40 interpretive intimacy for sexuality, I'm going to but it's like that. It can be so. It's also. I mean,
Starting point is 01:56:47 I'm going to. Yeah, because I think I'm a grand blockage to make a to the front in a relation
Starting point is 01:56:55 intimate because I I'm like perfectionist and I'm never me feel as adequate physically
Starting point is 01:57:04 for plair to someone. I travel there to do you, it's a major. What is it on your car?
Starting point is 01:57:10 The Gra, there's not I don't, I don't know I'm not, it's the weight,
Starting point is 01:57:19 I've always been in battle with that, I've always always found in surplus of weight,
Starting point is 01:57:27 I'm still always always found flask so we say that that jimled
Starting point is 01:57:36 to at the defy of the homosexuality, because for me
Starting point is 01:57:45 it's a there's a there's a a lot of people for who it's it's a it's a
Starting point is 01:57:48 it's a it's not a few for me for me clearly, I'm have been a
Starting point is 01:57:52 difficult to be in it's and it was a very much a refugier in a
Starting point is 01:57:59 life where there there was like no pursuit of a pursuit of
Starting point is 01:58:08 partner sexual at cause of that because I felt not a
Starting point is 01:58:14 dose that it's a auto sabotage? Probably. Probably. You're not to be rejected, in the
Starting point is 01:58:21 phone. We don't even not the option, you know, it's like, it's sure that's for a one-
Starting point is 01:58:26 Yeah, exactly. I think, I've, I think, I've been a bit of my 20thens in the
Starting point is 01:58:32 placard, even if I technically made my coming out at 24 years, I'm the impression
Starting point is 01:58:37 that I'm an impression that I'd a little reclue because I I, I'd
Starting point is 01:58:44 not a, a chime that I could be to be imprinted for to find a chum or to find some of the
Starting point is 01:58:50 partner, we'd say that it's, it's not to apply to me, at a point that I'm
Starting point is 01:58:57 asked, is that I'm that's actually, is that is that's that's that's sexual, I'm not
Starting point is 01:59:04 that's over person, and puttie me the pay, but, but it's not that,
Starting point is 01:59:09 it's not that, it's not that the case. So, yes, we'd say, to, for reven to the
Starting point is 01:59:14 question, I, I'm really I think I'm really when someone when someone me make
Starting point is 01:59:20 some attire by me. He's not the port. But it's that, yeah,
Starting point is 01:59:26 because you don't know to do the grass. You know, it's in the grass. Because I
Starting point is 01:59:30 think that you know that's I think to do that in effect. Right. And it's not just
Starting point is 01:59:38 that. It's not just that. Yeah, because of not be able to recognize that someone
Starting point is 01:59:44 has an interest for you, to not to that, it's profound. Well, we'd say that I recognize not
Starting point is 01:59:50 this attireance that in these people who matter me, so we're I'm always I'm saying, well,
Starting point is 01:59:57 I play to people who play to the person who not tire not, so it's a little like, there's a
Starting point is 02:00:03 solution, it's, it's, there's, there's, there's, a person, that I'm
Starting point is 02:00:09 that I'm, that I'd that would be that would be attire, it, it's, it,
Starting point is 02:00:14 it's, it, it's, it, it's, I think, I'm in a situation
Starting point is 02:00:18 hypothetical that exists not, you're like, you're like you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,
Starting point is 02:00:24 you do with, when the guy is hero that I tryper on there, no, but you there's a
Starting point is 02:00:29 affair that, there's a kind of, there's a mission impossible. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:00:34 a bit mission impossible. Mm-hmm. Because, but I'm, but I'm sure that I'm in the
Starting point is 02:00:40 check in to me to get to me sort of to the true that, because I
Starting point is 02:00:44 I think that you know, Degas to the confidence, it's a very,
Starting point is 02:00:49 really a good bit of chameen. I don't that this, this, this,
Starting point is 02:00:52 this, this, this tool, I'm in year, I'm going to have it
Starting point is 02:00:57 will be, yeah, because you see, that's it's progress, yeah,
Starting point is 02:01:02 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, but even at the
Starting point is 02:01:05 time, it's different. But, I think, yeah, I'd be terrorized to look
Starting point is 02:01:10 the first, it's, We're saying it's It's like it It's like to see What I
Starting point is 02:01:16 Degasur But I'm I know I'm going to I'm going to I know I'm going to I'm
Starting point is 02:01:26 invested in the entrainment physical I know my sister who has modified the Dant for
Starting point is 02:01:35 there's there's more there's there's there's there some there's things that I have used
Starting point is 02:01:42 in the last years that I can't I don't want to I know what I'm doing
Starting point is 02:01:47 I'm doing to I'm saying no, now, it's going to develop a confidence in me, it's really
Starting point is 02:01:55 not just that. Yeah, yeah, it's because we do all the time when we talk of a complex,
Starting point is 02:01:59 there's there's that we know, that's that's sorry, but in this
Starting point is 02:02:04 vici, I'm not able to just chemine just chomining without anything there's
Starting point is 02:02:08 there's there's people who have done many of their because there's a pressure social
Starting point is 02:02:12 that's a very much more more than you know, I'm saying when I say also when it's when it's
Starting point is 02:02:18 when it's when it's without the regard of the other there's there's a there's something
Starting point is 02:02:24 that will be doing they'll be doing and I think let's go I'm sure I mean
Starting point is 02:02:30 the technology the science is there the it's like so now I'm I'm sure
Starting point is 02:02:36 when the injections are there years years it's like just the actress
Starting point is 02:02:41 that they had access to that. At the beginning, it was something, it was, it's not, it was, it was, it's almost it was, it's almost it's almost a plastic that they were injected, it's, it was, and at a moment of it,
Starting point is 02:02:52 you said, well, no, it's, it's democraticized, it's everywhere, now, it's all the world who has access to that, so, you know, our grandmere, probably if they had
Starting point is 02:02:59 had had access to that, you're also, we can't, we can't, I think, no, I think, to, you know, I've never had
Starting point is 02:03:05 any of that, and I'd never say that I'd ever I'd say, I'd say, that I'm going to that. But at
Starting point is 02:03:10 the beginning, I'd remitted it's some of the morning, I'm like, and I'm afraid injected to everywhere,
Starting point is 02:03:16 and then after that I'm saying, it's also well to accept that. But it's very personal.
Starting point is 02:03:23 You know, there's a time that they're going to have done their life. Really? Not,
Starting point is 02:03:27 not, not, at the regard of the other, the regard what they put on
Starting point is 02:03:31 their own, and it's so that I think it's not, it's superficial, and interior, but
Starting point is 02:03:40 all the whole people do the way of the way of the way. It's a part of your
Starting point is 02:03:47 other side. And also, I can't necessarily say if I'm 25 livres tomorrow, if I'm going to make
Starting point is 02:03:54 an chom immediately. It's not not. There's a little bit there's not there's a
Starting point is 02:03:59 time, it has been 30 years. Oh, my God. And it was it's a long time
Starting point is 02:04:06 of that, and it's like, what's because 25 livres is at about that's about 10 kilos if it's not
Starting point is 02:04:12 quite how's going to how 10 10 kilos you're going to your bonner? It's
Starting point is 02:04:19 quite interesting we're we're not more sure that you're not sure, that's yeah, but I'm dissu
Starting point is 02:04:38 to be certain, and I'm in It's really because you want to lose 20 livres. I know that will be on my life. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:04:44 I know on my life. I know. Is it have been enraged? Is it have been able to no?
Starting point is 02:04:53 But I'm terrorized by the so even just me approach to a regret, I don't, no, no.
Starting point is 02:04:58 And what's what's that frere the rogé? Well, I think it's very related to my sentiment
Starting point is 02:05:04 of on. I'm perfectionist. I'm I'm going to be good to be good the first coup, and
Starting point is 02:05:10 you say you say a bit sometimes, I'm going to a minute, I'm going to go to get and it's a
Starting point is 02:05:15 time, yeah, yeah, it's like, you're going to get the pressure, I'm sure,
Starting point is 02:05:20 I'm trying, I'm saying, that, I'm not d'hate much, but I think that I'm a
Starting point is 02:05:28 minute I'm going to have one, and I'm trying, to find, to find, to find, the
Starting point is 02:05:32 because you want, it's not like you it's not like it's, you it's, it's, It's my
Starting point is 02:05:40 great difficult that I would be able to be able to be able to be able to it's a part of
Starting point is 02:05:47 it's not it's not I think it I'm doing I've got to have been I've got to I'm over
Starting point is 02:05:57 some more I'mosceles and be able to be able to them so I know that's that's a desire that I have to be in
Starting point is 02:06:04 couple but that has been refueled long time But I see that it's It's It's gonna be
Starting point is 02:06:12 That's getting That's always It's never It's never Gare, guys I'm not the choice To get it's like I'm 50,
Starting point is 02:06:21 I'm gonna make sure There's plenty of people There's plenty of people Who's on that Yeah, well, So, I'm just They don't know They don't know
Starting point is 02:06:27 They're not They don't They've got They're not They're talking That they're I'm sorry I'm gonna
Starting point is 02:06:33 And I'm sure to you'll hear. Well, at the but it's in the sense that we
Starting point is 02:06:41 don't know more also. You know, and I see I'm if you're if you
Starting point is 02:06:47 know, in the last season in a moment of the one of the
Starting point is 02:06:53 perfectionism is the on trough fulled. Yeah, but that is all this
Starting point is 02:06:57 this is that you talk to on of perfectionists and to tell and
Starting point is 02:07:03 to be perfectionism that there's person who will not be to reproach you're never
Starting point is 02:07:08 a lot of you're not that's the great problem of my life, you know, I'm
Starting point is 02:07:14 I'm still until I'm that I'm a period where the more the time more I'm haunt
Starting point is 02:07:21 to have not an experience of dating but you know, I'm sorry I'm
Starting point is 02:07:25 the time past and yeah so, so you you're you're doing it's
Starting point is 02:07:30 bad you're there's plenty of it's bo of My God, it's the fun. It's tough. But plus we're in
Starting point is 02:07:36 more than we do more than it's true. It's true. That's not. But, you know, I'm saying, I mean, I do I think, I'm,
Starting point is 02:07:45 I think, I'm, a bit more, a cheque, because I think that's the re-leve, it's like, it's like, it's so we're
Starting point is 02:07:53 all the thing we do that. Yeah, me, I'm going to be like that. It's so, you're fucking to be afraid of
Starting point is 02:07:58 my heart tattooed. Yeah, no, but it's because, it's because it's because at when at When in which moment we learn
Starting point is 02:08:03 in the life, it's when it's when it's when it's when it's when it's when you're in it's not a
Starting point is 02:08:08 thing, you're when you're confronted and you're put to position in your own your own and you're
Starting point is 02:08:13 shaked by something that you're grandis, and in that I'm I see, I'm saying
Starting point is 02:08:22 I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm going I'm a very, I'm not to say, I'm right
Starting point is 02:08:26 I'm saying, I'm yeah, I'm I'm trying to get he's, he's, he's,
Starting point is 02:08:31 he's, you imagine? But you'll internalize me. He's that you know Question opto reso. You have
Starting point is 02:08:37 each one Okay. What do you think the little Marilene of the woman
Starting point is 02:08:41 that you are? Oh, boy. The little Marilyn. Mm. Yeah, a bonn
Starting point is 02:08:49 optorazzo. Hey, boy. It's custom, it's written your name. It's written
Starting point is 02:08:54 my name. Well, well, I imagine that she should she'd because
Starting point is 02:08:59 I'm I'm still rave to make the humor in life and the yeah,
Starting point is 02:09:06 it's really my rave for the I think she think she would be probably impressionia,
Starting point is 02:09:13 he'd not, perhaps, I think, I think it's I'm quite I'm like I'm,
Starting point is 02:09:18 like I'm sure, but yeah, I think she'd have you more to do you do more
Starting point is 02:09:23 to your pretty Marilyn so it would be clearly, it's sure, I'm still,
Starting point is 02:09:28 I'm still, I mean, I mean, I'd just say, I went to go to the school of the humor. After that, I'm saying, you know, it's really like these little things. So, yeah, I think she's, I think she's fair, but I think she'll have a fear, I'm afraid, but I'm afraid to say
Starting point is 02:09:45 I'm afraid, because I'm afraid that I'm all over, we're all right? I'm afraid, not to too, me venting, but to too say that I'm content, and that we'll arach. You're a bit Judeo-Christian. A bit. But, I'm, I'm like, I'm, like,
Starting point is 02:09:59 Yeah, I'm really my life, I'm really everything, I'm really everything, but inle me, I'm going to be the part, I'm sorry, you're the person
Starting point is 02:10:07 mainst part of what you're in, but I'm but I'm not that's not that you know, there's a bit something of imposter?
Starting point is 02:10:15 A bit, but, but, there's a sentiment of imposter there's there. But, and, and, you're all
Starting point is 02:10:20 all you've all all right, but, but, I'm still, I'm still, that, who,
Starting point is 02:10:25 I'm still, I'm trying, why you have you I think to everyone, Sa'i. No, no, it's not fake. When you're
Starting point is 02:10:31 talking about and there's there's a lot of Cush, oh, yeah, yeah, really. And I know, I know,
Starting point is 02:10:39 you know, it's all negative, but it's not of the negativity, plus than, it's the complexity. The price of
Starting point is 02:10:45 conscience, also, you know, the show. But it's important, to surmounting to surmounted our, our,
Starting point is 02:10:51 our, our discomfort, and our complex, it's to them, to them talk, the
Starting point is 02:10:56 address, yeah. Yeah, of yeah, of a way, we're going to say, we're not going to be able to
Starting point is 02:11:01 be able to turn to turn to it in positive, we have been to exercise. That's the that's not the way.
Starting point is 02:11:08 That question to resolve, what's the title, do you do you do you have to
Starting point is 02:11:12 your life? I'm going to get a little bit of there's even, there's even not, there even,
Starting point is 02:11:18 there's just one, two, three. It's true, but your book with a little bit,
Starting point is 02:11:21 so it would, so it would you do chapter actual of your
Starting point is 02:11:26 life. But I am good my chapter actual. And, and I'm the new
Starting point is 02:11:33 one, we're we're very connected spiritually on, we said that the month of
Starting point is 02:11:39 January was very very very chaotic, but we're we're very conscious
Starting point is 02:11:46 of our humanity. Yeah, it's there's so I'm there. So,
Starting point is 02:11:52 I'm my chapter actual, but I'd like it, but, you know, it would be, you know, it's a movement, to...
Starting point is 02:12:02 I'm almost to say, conscience, you know, because, you know, when you're talking, when you were, when you were, when you were, to have,
Starting point is 02:12:11 to have chosen your own and to be, and to be, you're a little, you're a little zombie in your life, let's on.
Starting point is 02:12:16 And then, then, then, you're the impression that you're not zombie, like, you're really, I'm conscious,
Starting point is 02:12:22 I'm conscious, I'm conscious, that I'm brassed my cage, that I'm that I'm conscious of the repercussions
Starting point is 02:12:30 positive that it can be able to make a lot of doing it's going to deminage! Okay. In the 12 next year
Starting point is 02:12:38 in the 12 years. It's going to be quite to be fair faillette but that's me who is
Starting point is 02:12:46 at the end of the end of the scenario. Yeah, so how I'm changement, it's good.
Starting point is 02:12:52 Changement, but I'm forced to do changement decision executive
Starting point is 02:13:00 changement on program that's the changement to program changement to program but that
Starting point is 02:13:07 it's it puts it does it does it you're you're you're being fired of you
Starting point is 02:13:12 once you're once you want to be like a like a baby but after after
Starting point is 02:13:18 at the attention there well I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 02:13:22 going to it's it's a it's a point if I make a minimum of effort, I'm able
Starting point is 02:13:30 to get a matter of my because we're able to I'm saying, but there's not, there, there,
Starting point is 02:13:37 I don't know how it's a matter, I don't know to be good for to find there for to find out of
Starting point is 02:13:43 and it's made. It's so much it's because it's so centris, it's my self
Starting point is 02:13:49 preferry. It's too the fun. Well, I guess, I've got to I like that, yeah. I mean, so I see that I'm able to
Starting point is 02:13:55 to change, to, to help, in doing, in fact, a bit of effort, a bit, a bit, a comfort,
Starting point is 02:14:01 that I'm able, that's not impucient. Well, that's beautiful. Not bad. No. I mean, that.
Starting point is 02:14:08 And what's he represents for you, Sam? What? What's what they represent for me? Well,
Starting point is 02:14:15 no, but it's my mayor, that's my quite, I'm glad. I'm quite, that's not clear. Well,
Starting point is 02:14:19 we're not, not true, there. You're talking. We're going to like, I'm like with the comedians
Starting point is 02:14:25 and I'm like, I'm gonna be able to I'm sorry. He's at home, I'm still, he's just relax, that.
Starting point is 02:14:33 Yeah, yeah, you're my best, but he represents a lot of affairs, if I mean,
Starting point is 02:14:37 he's, he's he's really, he's, I mean, so, it's my, so,
Starting point is 02:14:43 so, so it's like, my, my rock at the time, it's sure that we're always have
Starting point is 02:14:49 a project on I'm For me, and since we're happy, it's guaranteed that we're
Starting point is 02:14:53 for a question, you know, that's not a question that's you're asking to be a yeah, I'm not,
Starting point is 02:14:59 I'm going to be able to yeah, I'm going to that, but I'm sure, I'm not,
Starting point is 02:15:04 you know, when you're not, you're not, you're not, I'm not, yeah, I'm not,
Starting point is 02:15:10 I'm not I'm not to, it's a lot, it's, sometimes I'm sometimes I'm the person,
Starting point is 02:15:14 I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm not to be It's naysue, but I know what's he like in food, what's he like or the restaurant
Starting point is 02:15:23 or the same. And then it's I'm going to come something, I know he's in trying to do make a error. You know, there's a cream
Starting point is 02:15:31 of mind. He's not like that. He's got to and he's too said, but no, but he's like, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 02:15:38 and he's like, he said, it's a ghouise, it's what that? It's crazy. It's a lot. And one, one on two,
Starting point is 02:15:45 it's me that's why it's a lot, I guess, I guess, I've seen something and I'm That's new. At each time, you're
Starting point is 02:15:50 right. Because I'd just not do that and I'm forced to say, even if I'm he's not a whole,
Starting point is 02:15:55 and I'm not to have a matter to make a matter of this kind of a kind of, it's not because we know someone,
Starting point is 02:16:02 and that we can't do it really when we can't. Yeah, it's not that that's not that's not
Starting point is 02:16:09 because you know, because you're in the fact you're in the part of yeah, but we're
Starting point is 02:16:13 not even like but you like you have you ever, I'm sure. I've got to have your own to have you liked that. Yeah, but you're very much. I've been so much like to have a great
Starting point is 02:16:22 complicity also. But we, we're we adore doing the podcast at four, to receive these duo, we're very, it's true, it's a lot of, it's a different
Starting point is 02:16:31 on the two invite, there's like a commentator or a commentatrice at the quote. Yeah, I've been there's been,
Starting point is 02:16:37 there's an analyst. Yes, yes, that, it's so. Thank you, to have partaged on your
Starting point is 02:16:43 very much, I'm very very appreciate. It's really the fun. And Bravo, and the long life, it's a lot of your duo. Oh, well, I'm good to have. We're not using
Starting point is 02:16:52 the Joker. No, Colin. You know, we're telling us, we've seen, we're telling us that they've used. A bit, quite, you know, especially when they arrive, and it's include other people, you know, some of the other people, you know,
Starting point is 02:17:04 they're going to say, oh, is what I'm going to me to stop, because, that's true, well, it's hard there's things things to do things to me, I'm trying
Starting point is 02:17:11 but, you know, the Joker, it's a protege also, because it's permit to ask some to say it's it's a lot of
Starting point is 02:17:17 because the time I know it I know it I don't know I'm not, so I think it's it's not so I'm so if it's
Starting point is 02:17:22 if the person is not able to she can't make the Joker or she can't or she, there's a there's a
Starting point is 02:17:29 there's a really, so really, so so much thank you thank you very very much and thank
Starting point is 02:17:34 to everyone to have been to be there and you give your commenter how you have you
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