Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #148 - La Zarra | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette.

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

La Zarra est une auteure-compositrice-interprète. Ses chansons cumulent plus de 170 millions d'écoutes sur Spotify. Elle est québécoise, mais cela ne l'a pas empêchée de représenter la France au concours Eurovision de la chanson en 2023. J'avais donc la curiosité d'en savoir davantage sur cette Québécoise à la voix riche et profonde.Rencontre avec une femme déterminée, brillante, créative, qui s'avoue être une solitaire en quête de liberté et qui a pris en main le contrôle de sa destinée professionnelle.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:16:33 Cartes vertes00:38:05 Cartes jaunes01:03:55 Cartes rouges01:19:43 Cartes Éros01:39:46 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.Ricardo vous offre 15% de rabais sur les abonnements à son magazine pour vous permettre de vous inspirer au quotidien avec une foule de recettes et de conseils. Il suffit de se rendre sur le site https://ricardocuisine.com/abonnements et d’entrer le code promo MARIECLAUDE15.

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to be very much where she repre the air of Piaf because Piaf is a

great inspiration for her. And for me, the voice of Piaf symbolize a lot of my life. So I had

all right, she had attrised my attention. I thought it's an European and finally, when I

learned, when I learned that it was an author, a composer, a interpreter, a great person,

shebecoise, she has participated, entre at the Eurovision in 2003. She has

conued of a grand success with these songs. And, And today, I'm content because we're to receive at Open Your

Your Gepp, I'm going to say, Place at Lazara. At the moment where you've been chosen, you're trying to represent the France, how you're to react to that? But they've been asked three times, from my career.

Ginette, she's a little like you, when she's, there's a ginette, and there's a lot. She's my dream to do something with her. She's my dream, to do something with her. I'm upset by her. problem of memory. So, I see, I'm

thinking, and my part is to forget the word, and I know the first song, it's a time, you know, ah,

it's what, the word, and then my, my, my car, it's a when I, when I'm,

when I'm, it's correct, you, you're saying, you, you're safe, there's a , I'm saying, it's something.

No, because you, you're a, it's a, a stress. You know, it's a sort of, a sort of,

a stress of performance, also, and that you You can do you have, and that's just to play with your tour of memory. So, so you're like in, but it's but it's always been like that.

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his voice. I'm I'm hot to listen to talk to his life because I

think in the person mysterious. I'm not the impression that I'm so it's

time so we're all we're all it there also. And if you know it, if you'll have

an invite to go and attend to her music, obviously, if you know it, you're numerous to know it, number of it, to know it, I think, you'll have more want to listen to her music. So, she's in front me. Hello, Lazara. Good.

Hello, how it's a good. It's a pleasure to be to see, it's a pleasure. Thank you for the invitation. Really? You know, when I you see, when I'm on the videoclip that you

do, you seem very extravagant. And there, you're very sober. So is, is that in the life more sober or more extravagant

usually? Like that. I'm not not going to do you my course with my capo and that's,

that's more natural. That's, it comes with the scene, the media, the... Yeah,

it's that, it's the personage of Azara. You know, to me to be able to live

at through this thing a bit extravagant that I have the right to have to have been

a certain manner or to talk to be a certain way, not that's

a bit not that's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a

part of me that's a little so, you combine the two. And then after you

let this that and you come, you're, but you call in the

lastara in the two cases. No. No, no. Okay, but that

I'm I know, I know. But in the life, so you're called Lazarus on the scene, but in fact, in your metis, and your name,

there's Fatima. It's Fatima Zara. It's a name composed. Fatima Zara. Marie Antoinette. So, we're called Fatima Zara

at Chetua. We're called Fati. Fati. Yeah, okay. Simply. And I, and I said to people, when I,

in the opening, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I realized that you were people,

that you had granded at Laval of origin Moroccan of your parents but I, I think with the theme

of your voice and all that, I'm sure that you were sure that you've been to have been to think that

we're thinking that I'm because I had pre to chant with the grand song

French so I run now I'm I'm I'm going to at Longueue at Laval

I'm did you say at Val yeah but we're I'm in the No no I'm

sorry I was going to be. No, no, I've really too. No, that's I've grown to Alon Gai and I

've got to the disc of Piaf of my mother and I've got music plus and I

granzed with the musicality to this here in Quebec. And at what you have

to come to sing? Mai. In the Dush always, but

it's at after 2016 around. but it's a travel a concert with which I've worked

a lot of and he's really he made the chance to go in studio and just to experiment with my voice because I was extremely jenny

and in all the case at any time I'd have been imagine to be being chanteous or even or how say,

pretend to be it to be able to it's so so it was by the intermediary of Beni Adam in 2016 Is it

Is you see from the moment where you have to sing before the people?

Ah, yeah, oh my God, it was a promo in the city of the

France on a battle, and I was extremely nervous and it was a

good moment, but on the moment it was it was very, very,

very difficult for me. Because it's gendant, you, you, you,

you, you're, you're, that people that you chant in the same

that on the on the discs, and you I was always afraid of or forget my words, or to say, I've been

saying, but I'm not, you can't say, you can't be sure, you know, oh, yeah,

so it's been super, stressant, but today it's the matii is re-entry. But, tell me

how, before we know, I can't come back, you know, how you can't come

you're in France. Uh-uh. Because we in fact, in fact, on Quebec,

we've know, but you know, I thought I thought I thought I thought you're going to

that's you're in it's a very fit career there more than more than in fact.

Yeah, it's been quite I'm quite I'm I'm coming I'm coming with four

maquette and we said with my composers we go and we're going to try

a contract a disc for finalize the album to have a bit having

a super pleasure. And an ami to me had And he has made listen

my maquette during these rendezvous at several mesons of disc. And they've had to be there

and I was there to be and I'm there to be a business French. Then the Canada,

because it's with an universal, she said, no, no, she's a Canadian.

So, that's it's bacted a little bit. And then we we're partaging on

to make an adventure. So, they've made a collaboration between the two

on the music, to Canada and in France, but my team, my chief of project, my team artistic,

was based in France, so he was a little to try there by there, and view

that it had started very, very rapidly, it's, it's, it had

several obligations, we're saying, the promo, in France, and the Quebec had a

pasted at court, Tate. Yeah, so, so, obviously, your music,

has traversed, has traversed the ocean, but I mean, so it's not fool to think that's going to that's happening, so I'm

that I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to and then you're in Quebec and there I'm back, and I'm back, I'm

in three months per year, because I've voyaged enormously, I've discovered Italy and it's a

country that's a country that I love and that's really and so I'm trying to to rest the

long time possible? Is it not the Italian? No, but I'm quite,

oh, that's kind of Yeah, it's weird, but I don't know to talk about like the

Arab, I'm saying, but as I'm saying, it's a bit, it's more to,

it's, it's more to do. But what you're what you do you know, I

think, I think, I've had like, I have had a cut of food in 2003,

in 23, between, I have two seven between some, between, the,

the, we said, we'd say, we'd go to go to Italy, I'm going to go to Italy, whatever, okay. I arrived at Rome, and there I've got made a coup of food. It's the architecture, the genre, the nouriture. And in this period, I was extremely, how much, I had a lot of inspiration for create. And the Italy, it was like a vent-freycharge. It was, it made this little flame.

And I was like, okay, this country and, and, and, you know, And it has done good and this country me inspired enormously. So, between the Quebec

and Italy. Is it ready to open your your job? Oh my God, yeah. So,

there are the questions red, so are the questions of general, but but I'm,

that the questions are the questions are the questions that are the questions that we're going to

get to do that, with your question, the level of questions that are

these questions personal. The level Ruge is still personal level Rove you'll understander,

Eros and and so it's sensual and sexual. Oh my God. Okay. The question optor-rezo

is a question is the last question of the encounter and it's, I think, I think,

I think, often that will make a resum of all what's it's a question,

it's a beautiful to terminate this moment that, and that's your protection.

You're a Joker. You have just one. And if you say, because, obviously, I pose these questions and all that,

if you say, oh, there, I'm not to ask you want to answer, and we'll pass all right to question.

And he no jean't, if you will use it, he is not all the time, but it still, but

it's there so. So, how it can't it, it's that the cards you go and

you go and you want to give five, I'll you can't you can't choose one,

you can't, you can't choose one. So you will respond to two questions on the packet-ver. So, you'll bring them on two. I'm not on past, I'm not going to pass the kids. Well, I usually,

we're not really those cards. They're more petite when when we're the game. When we're here, they're five, six, yes. Is that you

do you take to cart, you? Very rarely. Very rarely. You don't not that? I don't know. I'm not to know.

Okay, Perfect. Okay, it's Sarah, it's Because the people who are to turn to their time

because we're not in front, but we're not in the card. Okay, the answer to be in

the time. So, while, when I look, when I'm in the mirror, I'm going,

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What do you to regard of the other? So, so, so, so, that's the question

I think she has been me, she's been a, she's, because when I

had started my career, I know I had kind of a space of

, the I could me say in any part of what, it's not affect it and I

remarked that in the years, at force to make the concessions in my work,

in my values, with the people who I've with who I have been to make sure

that I know, I'm sure to look at the other you know, take attention you know,

not that's because we want to say that or you do you do you do you do

to be a way there there was there there that I

see. And I think that, after the Eurovision, there were a lot of

polemic and it's quite intense. It's just for the people that in 2003, you've participated

at the Eurovision, you're 14th. 16. 16. But 14, 14, 14.

But 16th, but in case, but, but, but, but, but,

but, but, we'll, it's, we're, In the 16th century, you seem not content necessarily to terminate the 16th. But we'll come here. I'll just position it as well as you know in the history.

Okay, I'll just let's continue. So, after this event, there were enormous of things that said on me. And I'm, like, it's not grave. It's not a concern not. But it's to affect my relations of travel. And, d'ucesment, I've remarked that it, that it's affecting me. I was very show of fuse.

I was, how can't say, very anxious. And I was in fact, I remarked that I made that I made pretty when I when I

thought that it was true what we said, and it's too, you want, you were like, to be affaced? Yeah, I'm like,

not derange, but it's not, it's not, it's not, I, I'm always in my point, but I made more

little, because, you know, I had an impression that, you know, to them to give them reason, but,

but I'm a thing, it's a, I'm afraid to, you know, it's not something that

me, that's not something that my life. And, um, it's so, so it's, so it's,

it's, it's, a, a period a bit bizarre, but, finally, I've done,

like, I'm, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, so, I'm,

I'm not, I'm, you know, I'm, okay, so you've, , Exactly.

So we're the title of your song. Exactly. So, but that's that,

but just this song, it's been for me a little, you know, when we,

you, when we said to decry what's the to do to think, to the to get,

you, so, so, so, the song Fockue, it was really so,

I'm not to, to, to, to be the person that you attended,

I'm more of concessions, I'm more prejudices in my social or financially just for

for fair pleasure at a tell or a person and if you don't know so that's a piece of

a conscience that's because it's well you know the Eurovision we've seen quite quite because Celendion

has gained when she represented the Swiss and you you represented the France so you

so you can imagine the pressure that you on your people when you represent a country

and you're in a competition and there's the event the event the event the first after the Super Bowl

so we can imagine the impact in a career in a life and a you've been chosen but I've been

just to know when you're chosen to represent the France how you're how you're how you're they've been

three times because they've been before I'm before you know for a reason disc,

for them, they are so the impression that it will give a boost marketing, and the

disc, and even for, we're saying, after that, after that, to do you want to do it,

it was not something that even at my career, I'd not go to do you know, but it's not

something that's not something that I'm interested. I prefer to my little whole,

and it's not much, it's not much, it's not forced. I mean, it was not more than my life at the end of the end up

if you do if you do not the revision, it's a little for the second disc and all so I've like I'm

like I'm we've started this adventure in September it's terminated in September 2022 and it's

terminated in May 2003 during all these months there you're an team of people who are

you're not you're not you're not you're going to be like that you have to to do you face that. You know,

you know, at the end of the day of you know, you know, you know, you know, you're doing,

you know, you're trying to be in the artist. Completely. Even artistically, you know, it's,

you're, you can't do you add that in the song, and you don't know, some,

it's like, some, we're, like, it's not, it's not bad, to,

it's, it's, it's not, you're like, I'm, not, you're not going to do you,

so, you're always in trying to to bat to try to to try to preserve the person that's

and also to preserve your identity artistic. And at the time, you're like, okay, you

want, okay, you want to do you want. Yeah, because you represent a country, so the

country want to gain. In fact, the people around to you want to

want to because when you get, there's a there's a lot of so who

rent also. No, there's so who so who so who's in the sort of

to be to be known, the reignionment, no? If I was to ask, is that for the team, it's like, okay,

on the press, we're going to have a grand bit of chame? I'd say, for these countries like, we're saying the

Swede, the people a bit Nordic that's really there's a different, when the artist participes

Uganda, you have really a push, but we can have only to regard the history, for an artist

French who has made their vision, he rested on the platform there,

he had not made career to America, I mean. I'm so they, they

they form mirroated that, but the reality is that's that's not that. You're going to continue to re-fair the same circuit for your second, third-em album, you'll rest in the same set. So it's been an experience that's an experience, quite yeah, it's an end up, but after,

I'm going to give you an big experience because there's the fans. That's something other. And the fans of their own, and they're fanatic and it's, and it's, I don't know how they're they tell an energy your songs

your songs they touch really it's changed their life and they they do they they're in that's

this relationship for me it's, it's, it's it's worth a pain yeah, yeah,

it's good to keep because in the same you know, you know, you're in after I

've used my fun, it's not not quite all, it's, I had kind of

my team probably, no, but I'm if you all all

all the I'm saying, no, but because it's because it's long time all the yeah, it's a

long time, it's long time, but no, I've used many experiences I've

learned a lot I've heard on my I've been on the middle, the showbiz we'll say.

Yeah, and it's a big showbiz, yeah, it's a good showbiz, and, no,

and the comments, so the comments, so, the comments, that's that you're

in front in the plus. Well, it's, in fact, it's when the people

tell who you are, and the people also you know, it's what I hear of the

carer, or you know, we're, we're, we're, we, we, we impose a

cheque, on the ambitions that are not the mine. And I never seen the music

like, in fact, it's, if you you're, um, you're, uh,

you're adulated or you, you're accepted by the milieu artistic, and you in the

good in the good favor of all the whole, okay, it's cool. If ever we're cancel,

oh my God, you're, you're in mired, you know and it's worth really about that you're in

a lot of you know, it's just it's it's a carche because he's on the TV or because he's like a

really, he doesn't, and it's always been concerned to that, even when I have affected, but it's, at force that we're

they're saying, is it like, is that I'm really a mess? It's what you see what you see what you see what? Yeah, but

we've got to we've got we've got we've got you know, it's you're getting I know, I see that's

there's a lot there's a press who said Lazzara she's an diva she's like not you, she

don't know you know what you know not you don't know that's what that's what not around

it's not because there's there's not there's like I've done all this incredible No, but that,

it's shocked But in the same time, you know, when you do that, and it's, if it's not too, it's not too much, but the people

but the people but you're to come to come to, you're going to come to and then it's like,

she, she, she, she's it's a, after I'm after, I'm saying, you know,

but, you know, we've seen your mean, contentment. Ah, when I'm,

when I'm when you, you know, if you do you do you do something during the month, and it's,

where is, Where is you do, like, what's the what's the what's the thing is the question?

It's even not an affair of classment. It's even not a thing. It's not a result of,

it's all the whole of the whole. I'm, I'm going to be a businesswoman. Okay. Let's see,

we're going to get to know, so you know, we've done your vision, you give your point, you know, because it

that will be to be able to booked the show, the tourn, it's able to me do this can be

the time interpret, it's, it's, give the sequence, it gives the ASSEM, as we call it. And after,

we say, the staging, you know, we're going to come with a little plan, and we're talking, we're talking,

okay, and how it's how it's to be the revision, it's like, you have some the delay,

or you do you know, the staging. You can't change that. So, I know, I see

that there rest five years before to submit the staging. And I'm like,

is we have a reunion, it's how? The same is the main The music in scene?

The mis in scene of what we have in their vision. Yeah. So I insist, we're

doing a reunion and we mount some we're doing, we're we're doing, we're on the

photo and in fact, they had already decided of the mis in the main

but I had an idea precise, and the misan there was there was

a kind of a prototype, okay, I don't if it's a vessel spatial or if it's

a uniform, it's electronic, so I'd I'd have arrived there to and it's

so over so I'm okay, cool, um, it's, if it's it's not,

you know, you're the guy who's who's over like, no, but it's there's a

possibility that's there's there's okay, and it's it's a cost of

it's $70, it's $70, there's the fire, the artifice,

and and I'm like, okay, cool, it's who it's who pay,

oh, but it's you, it's a at the I'm doing to do you know, I'm trying to do a contract of co-production so it's my budget that you

ask for my second album that I said oh no no but it's you like that you know but that you know that it's a nise a so we're going to

we're saying we're on we're making on a day but at the end of the day it's it's me that paid

this mis in this mis in this music on my second album I'm what I wanted to do like they're in scene it's a stedicam the regard to

the camera we're in fact that at the television for the public it's like a video clip you know with the song with the song

obviously because it's in live it's not it's not quite that it's not that it's not you've made but you've made it defansed

because you've made these crises and you're on the air in the air so when I've seen 6th place I've made

less than 80 But then, I was Fanched. I'm sorry. I mean, I said, my God, I'll do for my second album.

And I said, as far, we'll do do you know, okay. So, so, so there's been

an after. There's like an after, there, there's like, a period there, and it

has made to realize these things. It's really almost a remise in question that you've

been Yeah, but it's it made also to me to break certain liens contractual

with the person with that it didn't work so it. So it's it's like so I'm like

if we're not not said the famous gesture, we'd be retried in the same kind of

book, where I see that it's when the next hit, we're going to hear the next

songs, it's for the radio. So, so they they're going to hear this

in the song. And I'm going to be going to be going to a lot of musicians,

have a new sound of time to work, to find the time to live, to get to get the

people, to find out, the, I'm know, the, I'm, some, the,

I'm not, there was, there was, there was a , it had to the hit, the hit, so I'm

going to be in the same book, with the same attend the same pressure

and I'm you know, I'm going to my career when I'm going to see my career when I'm going to because you're going to

make a question, you know, because I'm doing this thing, because I'm feeling, I can express, but you can't

be an problem, you know, and by the then I, I've, I've put these positions for to be in

independent. Now, now, you're... I'm just a label. You're the patron. Yeah. And you're doing that

Oh, yeah. I'm a lot I'm super very very well, it's a bit stressful because I'm going to be

administration and the administration and at least it was like oh my my God how it's like that

it's always it's very very well now I'm and you're always a great to be sure

it's it's revenue because that you have been because that you could not write

I could not chant that I didn't never my voice it was really bizarre. It's really

it's a lot of time before to do you want to do you know, but in the same

time it's pretty preceptive what you have used. Yeah, it's a parkour. There's

there's a lesson to that, and I think that it's, it's it's a

sort that I think I'm a better person. Because have you an impression that you

do, you know, you know you you do more to batter it's a mean

to defend more to affirm it's a say that's just you're just yourself without all the time to

re-rapple who you because it can be deputies and honestly I think the women

often we're in these positions and you know at different moments of the

life for different things to be to be reaffirm who

we and when we're to have been able to be able to be able to it's very liberator

Yeah and so often when you defend your interests, when you're in this industry when you're

a woman you're just hysteric or you're derangeante and it's hyper insultant

so so now I have to count to to person and in fact

to the public it's the public that's that I'm I've written some

I've written and he's they're they're when I write their songs

also and I'm my my bus in my work in my part of the

partage with my public and there there's not there's there's not there's

there's there's just to do the music and we see if I'm

if I'm can't if I'm if I'm can't I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm look really really look really Okay, I'll

ask you When I'm When I'm When I'm When I'm When I'm When I'm It depends

It depends on What day It depends Really It's really My God, I Yeah, I Yeah,

But, You know, You know, Well, you See, you See, A man, Um,

I'm... I don't know I'm I'm like, After all these years, I've, I've developed

a kind of a sort of of syndrome of dissociation. So there are some days I'm like it's fatig, there are days there's like I'm like

like Francesca. Francesca, no, it's not, no, it's, who, Francesca? Oh, my God. Francesca,

it's she's she who's, fuck you. Ah, yeah? But, no, I see someone

who, who, who's forced to try to to, to, to, to,

to, to, a, a, a, a, a, in a pet, you know, in the

life every day or in my life of family also, because I have a ado. So, it's

so, sometimes I see, sometimes I see a mother, sometimes I'm a person hyper stressed, it depends.

But I accept all these aspects of me, because it has been a part of the life, you know, I want to

about the mirror, the fact to be transformed also. It's rare that we have that occasion

in the life, to say, well, when, I'm when I'm like that,

and to you know, to do it and to be to be able, when you look in the mirror

in Lazzara, what's what you see that? It's a last time, I did that, I've done

a mission, and my acuise me, you know, me to be my mid and the

endate and I'm, and I'm she said, oh, she's been long, it's a long

it's been long time, it's it's, for me, for me, I, I,

it's fun. It's fun. I don't know. I'm going to I'm saying to a lot of people sometimes on time even when you

don't know you're not you're up and you're up and you're sure. It's all right. And when

you see Fatima Zara Fati what's what? My God I see the I see the I'm a girl

who's who's a big and work nonstop and I'm always I've never seen

have been a view of a way of a lot of if I'm saying, if I'm able to imagine, I'm able to do it's not not going to

me to give me so, Fatima, it's that, if there's something to do that's what you think

that's the administration. It's she does the thing, she's she closed the deal. And then how do you how do you

the fact also, you're still all the young, but can even, is that the mirror is, is that

you're in with your mirror, is that you're doing with your seeing with your what you know? Look, Jan, my good

amy, okay, he's infirm and he made sure my treatment, yeah, um, no,

I've got no, I'm gonna with that. You're, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be at 50, to, I'm okay with that.

It's good to that, it's good to understand that. yellow, so you go to the bracer the

same way. This time you will me on don't know we're in going to be in another thing, you're going to

I'm choosing one and I'm choosing one. It's the last time that I'm choosing one. Oh, don't how that?

Yeah, that's after that's four. Thank you. So, so, in what your role, in what your role of

Marr has it changed? Have you had you had been there any kind of to

your past on your life professional what's, that's you have not received

of your parents and who you have been certain aspects of your life. Hmm. Ooh.

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Yeah. I don't if it really changed because I came in a family of seven I'm the

I'm still occupied the more young so I've always always been a mom to with my grand-sha

but when I got my my fee I've seen I've been at 21 year,

I'm okay it's so that we're we're not it's not, I'm I'm not

I'm trying a person, you know, someone is under my protection, and I'm occupied to your bien-ed, and that's it's been a very fierce,

without fear, if I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it and I'm, you know, I've lived my my wife

with the of my family, but it's been, it's an experience a little, you know, because it's young, you're relatively young.

Yeah. 21-year, you're sole at that Yeah. It was a man with our parental. Yeah.

And it's very very well like that. There's not no, no, but I have this force that,

like you know, because it would be something to be something of complex. Yes, but I think

it's, but again the car human is really special. In the case,

what it's what it's that it's that the three first years it's, you know,

you know, you know, while the problem financial or whatever So, it's... You can't

you can't be a there's a kind of a tunnel and you're like it's like, it's like,

you're like, you're not the choice, in fact, because you're an infant to have... Yeah,

you know, like you, it's like, and it's... Yeah, and... Yeah, it's a...

Yeah, because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, so it's a change a life.

Yeah, and... And, um, after, well, I see the young woman that she's

a good and I'm really a year of because I know when I'm like, oh no, Fatima

will have an infant my God because I'm a little a little, how do, how do,

how much, how I'm, yeah, I, no, you're probably you're profited to the

life? Yes, but I'm, was, is, is, I'm really extremely

rebel? Oh, my God. The police is what that? Oh, no, The consequences It didn't exist

not for me But for your family To my mother It's not It would be It was not I'm not

I'm not I'm not It's just But it's just I'm just I'm Because I'm You front

You're You're Yeah Yeah And you And you And you're And how

And how you And how you And you're And you're You're You're in You're Ancente

You're It's like It's Marris Maris And you've been to have continued to be to live in your own? No, no, no, I'm not.

I'm going to be, I'm going to be. Oh, okay, I'm okay, I'm sorry. You know, you know, I'm not to have been a family of seven. And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know, how we say that in French, but, you know, the mentality a little hustler. You know, I'm going to be able to do you have to be able to do

have a friend? But have you the impression, when you're seven, and you're the third-th, you're in want to exist. It's more difficult to have their own identity in a

clan also poppled? Oh, no, we have all our identity. Oh, no, it's not complicated.

Okay, it's not true. And then I'm that's why you're saying, I'm going to make the

color there to do this personality, that? Oh, no, we have a whole, a personality

distinct that is very intense, but, you know, we sit in a house, it's a place,

I'm like, I'm in the time that I'm going to that I part. And so,

you were so on apartment? Yeah. When you had been to your wife.

Yeah. And then the way has made that I've done plenty of little of cuisine.

You've have been to do you get a house. I'm in a lot of time. But I'm

but I'm but you understand but it's because you had that you gain your

and in the thing, it's something you're something that's I'm

you're I remember, I remember I was at Brossar, a Libanist, the bureau was there where he cuted the granite, so it was horrible in the eyes.

I think it's a cancerine, all that. And I've seen the, the, the contractors, the designers were coming,

and we were saying, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, they revendent, to, a certain price, and they'd like,

there's an of the money to have to do that to do you see a lot of that's in the people who are in

the immobliary who are in you're like okay you're trying to you're doing so I'm like I'm

to turn to I'm like the contract so that's that I'm and you're like no, no,

I'm coming a new new client in 32 unit and you're and you're like no no it's not

you're trying to work like how that's so you're like okay well you're you're put

you're put no you're part to come bye. I've always been like after.

After, well, the authority, it's, you're not capable. It's not the logic

of the thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean a contract, that's what, you know,

that's all, that's all, that's all that, and you're not, no, no, you're not.

And you're, to be the injustice, too, yeah, I, I, I, I'd

mean, it's, but it's, but it's, it's, it's always that you always,

you're always, but you're always, enough As much there's enough. It was,

but I think that there are many people there are in this situation there's not more than

than it's horrible. It's horrible presently I don't not how the people do you know

just the price of the house no matter where you live, you're in

where you're at the limit to your budget practically for all the money

the property, the tax, the impos, oh, my God. Oh, my God, I'm going to write a letter

when you're going to be where? Why do you do? You know, it's what you have a second to voice?

There's a question to I'm not, I'm trying to I'm going to me to find when I'm in France,

I do all my tests, when I go to Morocco, I go to private I do you do it,

it's a thing, you know, I'm a, you know, I've done, a year, I've done,

a co-graphy, my mare, and I'm I don't want to attend, because it's too to be.

So I'm in 50 here, you go in France it's like 150 euro. It's not no more we're not

too rent in there but there's a real problem. Yeah, yeah, you know the difference because you

voyage, because you know the because we always, it's the mayor, it's universal,

but there there's a question, I'm just to understand. But in fact, one

that we're in the system, it's going, but the door of the door to find,

it's not always You know, one one time I've been two years for something that's a second urgent, say, but two

years, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's going to come out of, and they're

going to be before. Imagine. Before what? You know, there's, you know, they're going to

say, well, you know, there's some of the malady, very, very bad, I'm not, it's not my

case, but at that, I'm quite , you're, at a day, they're going to be able to me call,

they're, you're like, it's like, it's good, I'm just more, I'm more four times. Well, it's arrived, I mean, I'm saying it's a little

but I'm but I'm sorry, but I'm so I'm gonna say, but I'm gonna say, but you're gonna it's like, you know,

you're gonna do you do you denounce. Exactly. Oh, no, I'm not, I'm not jeaned. I'm really I'm really.

And all that has been, what's what's, what's what you're a part of, um, enormously, of the stability,

the stress, but not because just because, I'm a mare Poole, so I'm always in imagining The worst

thing, if they they're not on the phone I'm like oh my my God it's like that

you're doing you're never never, you know, but you're never even You're not a

surprise It's not I'm gonna explain it's weird But I'm I'm like it's like the You know,

I have the You know, I had the impression that I'm my first few, like I'm gonna make a lot And so

it's not dangerous but you know After, after I'm that Angela were not with me or were

with me in an avion, I'm not I'm not I'm not to be able to do you know

to get to like an you know, there's a something there, there's a person who

we're doing we're doing we're doing that's there's there's there, there's

so that's difficult and it's and it's very that the summer it's semi-

no no but but it's but it's but it's but it's but it's the beau that she

apport, and is it an impression that she's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

you said and I'm in a time, but it's made, it's made, to be able to to be who

today, also. It's sure, it's to be able to be, to have this kind of

of, I'm not that you know, you can't you can't let's get when you're when you

can't be something, it's kind of a lot of life, so. What's what's

what's not received of your parents and who you've been my God my God I'm a super

beautiful in a superbele infance in my in my in my second it's not

perfect but I I've a super good an superbe an yeah

yeah it's kind of a fratry to set we're out of the day

on the bike like a little gang we'd we're we're at

the We'd come and my my mother to prepare a good breakfast, a good

tachin, you know, I've been a good infance. Is that your your

father was present? Yeah, he was present in, I think when I

was just I'm just I'm I think that he he was parted but my

my mother she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she's, still, all, but no,

I, my mother my my, my, my, me had all offered. And you're

you're doing in this great family that. Yeah, well, after we're we're going, after we're

there's quite there's because we're separated, but no, I'm a great infance and it

and it it's, it's, it's, how, to, to, to,

to, your, to, your character, you know, to, you're, it's affirmed,

you've, you've, I'm saying sometimes, I'm, I'm, like she's

like, she's like, she's like, I'm a family, I've been a family of seven, we've seen a

time, you know, I've seen, I've seen, we've seen all the four of the four hundred

so it so it's, it's very, um, how much, like, I'm saying, sensible to my

environment, you know, but I can't quite to pose another question in this case,

uh, uh, have you negliged certain aspects of your life? Ah, yeah,

enormously. Enormement. Um, And, when I had started my career, I went to start in

a month, after two months, then you and then you and then, my wife, my mother,

and after a year and a time, I'm going to go to, and my few, my fee,

she had, she had, like, she had, like, she said, oh, my God, I'm

in trying to make a There's an enormous of things with my wife and

in the time, it's like, but I don't the choice to return because I do continue

because it all the all right, how I'm how I'm doing to pay the loy or how I

do you do to let some to my wife in the future, so that it's been

it's a it's, it it's, it's like difficult, but I got in a

coin of my I'm in my head, you know, how I can't explain? It's, well, the merri-exam, I don't know if I'm a good example, but, well, it's the sole who me in the head, it's, you know, the people who do you know, when you say you're three, four-four years, you know, you're going to and you, you know, you're, you're going to, you know, because you have to to, you're going to try, four, four, you know, so, it's a little, my mentality,

it's like, it, it's not that I let see, it's a bit. Exactly. It's, to say, that, three, four-and, you know, you know, you know, you know, You have you see the boot for to be able to

be able to be able to get a for it and in the time you do you know to do it

that they're having a idea of the who's who's who it's who it who's

yeah and I have the my my mother my my sisters

who are like these two mom that and in

2022 when I'm when I accepted to have accepted to do

her She's been to live in France with me. It's not been a great experience for her

because she had not a little school and a little the mentality there. But

today we're hyper proche and she she has seen the work she has

seen the sacrifice so we have a good relationship and she's

she she has she she she's for a because for a person

to be it's that it's important so she she has she

had seen what you had seen what you had So she had these images. It's so that you can't

that. Yeah, for my infant. But I think that's, my care also,

I've not been quite a pretty, as it's, how do, mature for balancing,

we'll say, the stress. You know, like the health I, like,

really, let's it like, it's, like, it's accumulated, and I made,

it's create some it's been chronic, it's it's like it's like,

I'm trying when I'm in the France I'm in studio, it's a new composer, he's on

his computer, he's got to look at and it's like I'm and he said, you know,

I said, I didn't, you know, I said, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

I had, some, it's, like, like, like, some, like,

my wife, me, did that I had that also. Now, it's like more worse, but I see that I've got

to let the things accumuling and I'm in the sort of people like, when we're in the viv of the moment

and I'm in, I'm going to get it, I'll get to get to do what I'm to do, but it's going

to come after physically and that today I'm in trying to the, to it's to be in,

it's like, it's like you have accumulated too, and you're not made to get to get

a period of detent, had a period, in a part of to be the conscience of of what you have been in

the impact on the car. You can't you can't I'm not even not to sit

and then to analyze all that because if I'm analysis all these these

lousoe that I let's get to get to it's like it's like it's like I'm even

not want to give to give to give the importance to that but but you

put so you're so it's like a message it has it's

And, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a few years that I've gone, I've been, I've been, I've been three months in Italy, you're repose, but you're like, like, you're like, there's something that's like, you're like, this sentiment of urgency, but you're like, I'm supposed to repose, I, I don't know, is that, you know, I'm trying to, I'm, I'm, I'm, don't, you know, I'm, don't, you know, have, the spectacle, to plan, entre other, in France?

The 9th, yeah. Is that you're the impression that, that's a reparation of what you're in trying to live? to re-fair face, to say, well, I'm here, and it's like like to leave

the kind of of a bit of a bit of invehousal of what I mean, of what you've seen, of what you've been

I've really the time to choose with the persons with I'm at the two-cote I'd like

that we have to have to work together And, you know, we The dilemma, the dilemma, is that I'm on the scene too rapidly,

and it's been stressful for me, and I've never been comfortable because I, I've been a lot of, so it's never been

a good experience. After, to I'm going to be able to do, is, to take the time to create, to take the time

with a musician, to mount a show, not in the urgency, not in two, three days, and to really be contented to go to

present this show to my public. And it's what we're in trying to do, but it's that I'm in some time, you know,

sometimes I'm, if you can us can't you can't, and it's like, no, no, all,

it's safe, it's, these person that you know, it's, it's, it's correct,

but often I'm saying, oh, why I'm, why I'm, why I'm, why I'm, what,

it's, it's what the , Is you know, is Is that you have been to do you? No,

I'm not to get to move on for the When you go to see, when you go is a,

is that, is it one of the world when you're on the part of a spectacle?

We'll have the Eurovision before that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, it's not, it's not my mom preferer, but as when I'm

on the scene and that I see, I'm like, you know, there's

there's there's I'm very receptive to that. They're there for you. It's kind of something.

I'm concerned I'm concerned. I'm not I'm fascinated. No, but you know, I'm not a chanteuse that's,

you know, that the people do you know, for your music, for your words? It's a full,

they've, they've been in, they've paid a billet for me to see, that they're

going to family, for me, it's extraordinary, you know, so, so, so, I'm,

I'm doing that, and when you're , and then after the rest, all, all's all allot.

You know, it's, it's, it's like a new line with the scene and, you know,

there's a idea, I'm like, oh, I'm like, I'm sure, that I'm that I'm,

that I'm, I'm like, why, you know, I'm like, you know, because you're because you're

to be an attention or to be an way, it's like, it's a perception is a

moment, the scene and, you're like, it's, you're like, a, because

you're in but in time when you think it it can it's create to create

to create but you it's correct it's correct yeah, it's a because when you're

on the same you're on you're doing, you're doing oh no, I'm oh my my God

oh my my God, the first time that it's horrible I'm like I'm a problem

of memory so I'm I'm a I'm my head and my power is to believe

the power and I see that the first song, if at each time I, you know, ah, it's what the word?

And then my my car it's a call, and then it's a when I remark that's correct, you're being

you're safe, there's a I'm saying, it's something. No, but you're, because you're a stress. That's

that, you know, a sort of stress of performance also, and that can be a stress that I can to show

to the memory. So, so you're like in, but it's but it's always

been like it. You know, you're conscious Oh, yeah, maybe you know,

your next your next your own your own your own, I think that yeah, I think

that's, because I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

you know, when you do you know, when you do you do you find, so, what's the

fun, is that you're a bit more plus, you, you know, a bit more

epic, so, so you're so, you're, you're making the new arrangements

for to tell an story, you know, you present a project, you present a

project, you present a story to and it's what we're in trying to do this, it's sure that the scene

will be different, it's sure and certain, it's not like a fact, it's only a privilege

to all to all on a scene and to have this community, this communion

with with these people that want to want to be to be

, it's irale, it's bizarre, For me, it's always When you think at 9th

April, it's with your first spectacle of your return to your return to Paris

how you already, to tell you feel? I'm I'm sure, we've already that

we've chosen a cell that's very intimist, you know, that it can be really sure

enormously there's not there's there not of stress to I don't, when there

when there when there's there's sure that it's a little, but, but, no,

I'm a hot, you, to return to see, to return to with this new mentality, and to,

really, live my music, like I've imagined, you know, to have to have the peace, or

it's been, I've made, that, that's, but that, it's not, but, that's,

you know, because, well, when you're when you're coming, more, it's,

it's part to your story, it's, it will always part of your story,

but your regard on this part of this part of change. It's in the sense that you know

because you've made a time that and you've been in the time that, but I'm impression,

I'm the impression, I'm just that it's a new April. I think yeah.

To return. But I, but I'm to say, it's reconciled of the souvenir also.

Yes, to have new souvenirs with with the new music, with,

with, And then what You have And what do you want to To what You know To what you're About?

Well, this This this little album that I prepared during the three

years, two and a minute almost, that's this this this

park of the acceptation of the regard of the other

also, to accept that that you've I've taken a new Chmine

to, you know, I've really, I've really put the time to who I have been

to be, because at one I know I knew, I knew that's like who's like, who's

I'm, and it's really, because when I write my songs, how you do you do

do you do not, so it's a melody that will come, but the melody will be inspired

in a sentiment, of the way that I'm to have a first words, and it's a little, you know, my

brain, you know, my brain it's just, it's it's not, it's not that I'm trying, okay, so today, we're

talking about the subject to, you know, it's pretty, it's like, I'm, but I can't , I can't

I, I'm saying, I'm the first clois, we're doing, I'm going to make my emotions, because it's

something, to, to, to, to, for that the person can't imagine in fact,

your sentiment. In fact, you're render some things in fact, you know, if I see, if I saw not,

I'll let the song to be, and it's a minute after, six months later, and it's going to come

to come all, so for me, this project that's really the state of the in the

which I was not certain, I didn't, I didn't, I'd understand but I'm, but I'm, but in

in writing the songs, I can't my words, and I'm like, okay, it's that that I'm that I'm

that's a entire, I've found the word. I'm trying to the album that. But it's

kind of audacue to call you on this album that. But we do all that fuck you.

Absolutely. But, you have to be hypocrite in the kind of the bonnation that,

all people do you, you do in your head, you do it to your boss in your head. But it's

kind of audacious. But just to do you there's a there's a thing, you, there's a

passionnel, it's like, fuck you, it's like, you, it's, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, so, you know, there's,

there's, there's four, you're a, and you're on choice, one, so, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you're, you know, but, I'm not, you,

you're going to respond to, question of the three that you go to choose. Okay. Well, thank you. So,

what is your rapport with the death? Ooh. What is your definition of the dey?

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any time. 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. My rapport with the death. Yeah. I think

that from all the little I've been not obscaded but, like, conscious of the fatality.

And the first time that I had been in plain of conscience of the death,

I think it's in 2012, I've made a gross crisis of panic but I don't know if it's what we're in

family and I remember I'm up I'm up to get to and I'm in my head I'm saying I'm saying

oh I'm I'm a I'm a cross cardiac I'm I'm there was a there was a

little my little there and I'm and my little my little I'm

so my family panicky she's like she's being in being she

and I I felt really that I parted and I'm I'm sure you know the morseubid

it's exist and finally the ambulance vien and I'm like I'm like I'm

because you mean it's like oh but you're like it possible no no you're like

I'm like I'm like make me me do you it's like no so so it's like

okay you've made you've done you've been a crisis of a crisis of what

yeah no check my I'm sure I'm sure I'm a little bit of there's a It's like, it's a It's a question,

it's a question, I don't know, I'm okay, then a crisis of panic every day during three months. So, you have this sentiment of

all the time, you think that you're doing, that I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be on a thing that's like,

there's a thing, I'm pretty completely debil, and I'm why is, why is I

don't know, why is, it's what, like, like, you know, you know, you do,

you do you, you do, you do, for my my wife, yes, but there's like a

last of a through that and I think with the years, we know, we have a thing,

there's a lot of, our parents, to our children, especially the people, I think that's the worst

that's the worst thing that can to happen to someone, and I think, I think

I'd think that I'm in the fally, you know, but you know, it's,

you know, it's, you, I'm, I'm, I'm very spiritual, I'm in a confession

Muslim, and I'm with the years I'm approaching to more and more of my faith and it's, and it's it's a lot of

many people, you know, at every time that I know what what I'm doing, or what think, I'm okay,

I'm done, it's like, it's like, it's you who can't, who's the control. Yeah, but it's

it's a croreance, it's, but, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, Yeah. You have not to have all the response. No.

And it's that at a moment of a time of you depose that you and you get to

you know, you know, because to the situation you can't control. Is that

your little at this moment that? Yeah, it had had to have a

five, six years, a thing like that, then, and then, yeah, after you,

I don't know, it's always a, a thing a trick a trick very strange, but I

I try to think to I'm I'm, I think there's a life after the

it's, it's like when you go to know, I don't know if you do you know,

I'm, very intense or you have an impression that it's really really, but I'm

the impression that we have a world parallel, and I have the impression

that I can't I can't think you there's there's too sad,

and you you're like, you know, we're there's there, you know, you're

you're You know, it's sure that has an energy. This energy, it's a lot going to be to be in a part. And is what you're

not, not, not, I'm sorry, I'm not not saying, but I'm not no, no, no.

And so, I think it's the part of, because it's it's going to be a moment day, so I,

who part in primary, so, so, so, I'm, and I'm, I'm not there

don't, not there, no, no, no, but the More, you know, is the most great fear.

You know, there's a, and the second fear, it's true. Yeah. After the death? But for many people, it's absolutely oxyogyn

to talk about the people, to be able to be serious? Yeah, yeah, all right. Yeah. But,

I, I, I'll have remarked so I, you know, I'm a lot of events, and then there's, you know, there's, you know,

there's, you know, they're talking to are completely they're not they're not going to and they're saying well, I'm going to

talk about you I'm going to put up you, I'm going to ask you, I'm trying to I'm trying to because I know at what I'm

getting to exercise a medical, who are going to be mad, they're not, they're going to say, but why why I'm

doing, but I'm I've done plenty, who get, they're making all their life in question, but, but,

there's something of exaltant to arrive to it's just it's not for a because it's a immense stress

because you're a little on the in what you did it in a part that there's like an inconnue there's something

that we can't when we arrive on on a scene and like we we control not the more,

we don't know there a moment of a year where I had a little every morning I said is I'm recluced

this morning and it's there's always that I'm had to stop to think of that I said, well, there

a morning, they were they were up, but they're never coming. Yeah. And then you said, but it's perhaps it's probably

my last night. Exactly. Now, after that I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, it's just the morning,

and that's, and that's time, and that you're post you know, you know, you know, you're still

in the stress to, is that to get to get to that, so, and you're able to and you, and you're used

to be able, yeah, but when my my mother is dead, I'd say, I, you know,

I was I was doing where she was when I revelled I realized again that was I'm in

the medicine she made a medical that read up that year I'm doing I'm sorry I'm not

but I'm not want to have to have to have to and to live and live and I'm

every time I'm saying I'm okay I'm back then it's correct yeah

my pillus that I'm clearly clearly that much I'm trying to wear full with

with that the night if I had I had the night really it didn't

it You're You're rebe at her? Well, yeah, and in my Raves, she's she's the really, she

what you know, what you know, she's what you know, she's that she's she's really, she's really, yeah,

but I think, she was, so when you you're reveigh, there, you you're still, you're gonna you're gonna,

yeah, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, and I'm gonna be in the minute of my

chamber, I was, okay, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm gonna, just, it's,

this night, I said, okay, I don't put in the I'm trying to almost somnambute I'm going to open up here my room

but I'm not in my chamber in my room, I'm in my life, I was like, I'm in my mind and I'm sorry I'm in a

way, she's oh no, no, no, no, no, and that, I thought that the pillule it exacerbed, and exactly that she was

not, but I'm not even more me to say, she'd be more, me to say, she, for, especially the

first day, the first semester, you want to revive the annonce, you know, you understand. So, so I'm for that

the more now, I'm trying to be in pay with that. To have have accompanied my mother

in the death in the life well, and I'm in my, I'm in my, I'm like the

people here me tell the presence of their proche. You know, we can be judged,

we can, but if it's we can't do you do you do you on what?

Exactly. Personn't can prove that's true. Exactly. The science is true. The science is

true. Person can't. We can't in a zone of a of the crossions. You know,

it's like you get to see, you know, you know, you know, to see, you know, to say,

when you know, you say, you're proches who come to come to do, it's real,

for me, it's that, that, that, no, you're, you're in the life,

you're in, you're, that's, that's, that's the part who we're not that we're in the front of the regard of the other

face to that, I like that, I'm saying, I'm the impression that this person is present, come visit it to this way, I'm visiting it to see. If you're in it,

croisie. You create the reality that you want, to do the whole way. So, you know, you're doing,

you know, attention, but is it's hypocondriac? Oh, yeah, I'm all, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, Oh, yeah? So, if you

If you're to hear to talk of a of a something, you can you can't

see that you're not for the it's more but for long time I'm sure but germophobe

Oh, yeah, germophobe but at a point intense, like we would say good

I'd be good there's not there's there's there's there's I'm not

I'm I'm I'm always I think it it's just it's the talk,

but that's that's the Prove of Science at the secondar. She had made a TV and she had made the

camera and she said like you're like you're like you're like you know but you're like the other people have been there

when you put the TV in the class it's like court live oh no no no I'm

I'm just she's they're doing they're talking the ITS oh I'll forget that it's the

it's the what? Gonererer yeah it's like it's like it's like really

really just that today very true true true true dream for

yeah Yeah, but how you've lived in the pandemic? Okay, I know I know, I know, but for me, rest at the house,

it's the top. So, okay, so, you were, you were in my house, in your

and then you controlled everything. Yeah, O'Djavell, we're all the course, all the

person, people, it's, it's super, for me. I know, there are many,

who don't have very, who don't have been, who don't, The people who are germophobic, it's been as a positive, in fact.

So, the control of the environment absolute practically, I mean, we've seen, we've had

our own our own our own it's not 200 years that we've done that it's a

long time. But, you know, the people have been to have the people, but I

don't know if the people be concerned, but you see, we'll say to have

to buy your beer of peanut or your case of the

, you know, it is he is stock who they're made in the into the entrepoles. There's a lot

and there's there to pick up there's a lot of you know, you're left all the same all the same I'm a germop

because you think to that's a yeah, I think of you she thinks of a few, you know, she has made your hand on the

rampant, you know, I'm trying, oh my God but it's profound but she's not a

lot, yeah, no, no, no, no, it's, but you're

so, so you make not necessarily your hand on a man on a not all

all the it's correct. I've suremonded the trick but I'm sorry but it's that's all the

anxious because the germoff yeah, it's so so, so, so, so,

it's so very well, but you're occupied in your head and you know, because I

think to my chermopop in her in her head there, there's not there's not there,

there's not because she has been there in the world of the world of invisible,

you know, because the germ We don't know not, you know, so it's, it's,

so it's, it's like, it's like, it's so without fin, it's so when my people,

I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing my head, it's like, is it, is it, is there's a

many? No. No. But those and the that are precious, I imagine? Yes,

they're very precious, and I'd do you know, but I'm but it's important for you, to know,

but it's important to you, it's, no, I'm, my, my mer, A friend, it's a friend, it's a 15 year, and a super

a great relationship. And, you know, we're... And we're trying, you know, and then you can't... You know, my, it's your name, and vice versa. We can't get into... It's just like, okay, we'll stop and have a bit. And when the energy will come up, we're going to have a coffee, we're going, we're talking, we're talking, we're talking, we're not,

there's not, there's... Ah, yeah, it's... That's a... That's just a real amitia, I'm... I just think. as we're like we're like, exactly. You're like that, I'm like that, and, you know, sometimes, it's not the moment

to always be together, so, no, but, I mean, it's just, it's very well like that, you know, it's like, a great solitaire, we're saying. I adore the solitude. I don't know the people who like to be alone. Yeah.

I like, but, to the way, when I'm just, when I'm alone, I'm not alone. You know, like, what I'm doing, when I'm going to be, I'm going to be, you know, I'm going to be able to be able to

get to see, and just just to look the people to see, me imagine their life, that, and I'm in into the

history, I'm a I'm a idea of the I'm afraid so, I'm afraid, so I'm

mhmard in fact. Because you're with you even with my own, I'm not, I know,

I don't know, I'm saying, when you're being in being alone, it's that we're kind of

with so same, you know, that's, you know, we're not there's always to be

being, so we're not dependent of the other, you're not need of the other,

you're well with the other, but you can be able to be able to be alone, you're not all the only that's not

that's not really that's not. Oh, yeah, do me as well. No, but is that people are many people who

live in a year like that so, alone. Well, I'm there's a thing, there's a

many people, by the people, you know, when you're sometimes I'm sometimes, you're doing, you're

a solitaire? Well, you're like a chaw. But, yeah, but it's It's true, it's like you can't live

with the other, but you can well live alone, and there are some years sometimes, I'm, I'm just solitary, but I'm always entourage of people. But I like, but I'm just, but I'm just like, but sometimes I'm going to

take a retress, just for, for, for more to have this generosity that, it's, you know, I've, you know, I, you know, I'm, you know, reconnect to me, right, you know, because in the other, it's,

it's like, it's, it's like we're a bit sometimes, you know, in the agitation and I think it's a

question, I think it it's a lot of like, in fact, it's not, it's not really, it's always,

it's always, it's like I'm a new time, I'm reconnected. Nive rose and rosse accompanied,

that's a level, I know, that's that's, it's a lot, to, it's, you're going to

see, you're going, you're going to, you're you're doing, you're you can't

you can't choose one parmere one of the way, it's not so bad that's not

that's a bad there's a question that's there's a there's a question of oh,

it's a way, it's a lot of that's company, have you have you have you

a pen of love okay of how your way, how much, that's

I'm going to get to my glass for so. Okay, but you have to get to

your glass? Is that the sexuality is a subject taboo

in your family? Preferer you seduire or to do you know, it's dull when you know

it's due to take a tack tack, prefer you say duer or to make seduir? Okay.

I'm that's sure. I'm sure that you're sure that that would say that you're

saying that I'm zero jenny no, no I'm like, oh,

you're bow wow and how and how often people are often the people are

people person my cost, we're going to see, but we're going to see, come, who we're

going to, is that you've already to ask? No. And I'm asked. Um,

maybe I'm, maybe I'm not like that I'm not, I don't know I'm, I don't know, determined,

maybe. Maybe, maybe the people, they're probably, they're not, is that

you think they have a of the reject? Yeah, I think that's my theory. I think there's a switch in a little,

like the women, we're playing a little bit more the front. There's like, I don't know if it's a change of role because there's been drool, really,

but I'm 87, I'm 38 years, so I've got to this concept of role. You're a model 87? Oh, yeah, I've grown

for the years with a model of, what a woman and a man and how is that

we're doing to present and I'm I'm in impression that I'm today, we know,

we know, we have no need to have a man in our life that's financially

or we're a lot more more independent and I know, I'm, I know,

I'm, maybe that's for that it's for that they're more. But is there are

one who has that's to have been to do have been a lot of a

impugned that's he's not it's the only that it's the it's correct that's a

well in the French there's a closher well in fact we're

the real vocabable on a person in a situation of it's

but it's the only that they're that want to because you don't know

it's like you know you're something you can who can intimidate, you know, if she's her, she's not, I don't know, why

you know what, you look at the guy? Yeah, I'm just so I'm sorry. Because you'd ever be that, you know, to get us to seduers, is that?

Yeah, even if I do, no, it's not, but I'm, it's the phone. Yeah, but it's the name, I think,

that's the part, you know, when you approach someone, is, you have a fear to be

not? No, if we say, no, it's not if I'm not, you know, I'm not my phone,

I'm not too, You know, it's like, you try to have a conversation. So how do you do? How do you do, it's who? It's when it's Fati, Lazzara or Francesca. Ah, yes, it's true. It's complex. We're at three levels.

Yeah, it depends how I'm ready. Okay, the question. Uh, Francesca. At what, at which, at what time, you're in your life, Francesca? Uh, I'd say, in 2000, it's the year. 2,024. No, but, no, it's just, it's, I approach,

I make a blabbe, or, you know, you're trying to try to talk to talk about a And it's It's like, I like Because, you know, obviously we're like, obviously, we're

like, today, you know, today I'm not regular, you know, there's a day there's there's a

way, you know, there's, like you're to accorded a pre-none in these days, but it's

because, often, we've said, oh, you know, we've , you know, that I've

a, that I've been a lot of a lot, we're, in blake with the friends,

we, we've said, it's Francesca. But what I like when I dragge a guy, but that's just my fun at me, I try, I try to use their tactic, you know,

it's like, you know, you do they compliment, and you, you know, you don't let's not of the regard, and, you know, who, you know, they're just for, you, they're just, you know, they're just, you know,

I think so, oh, I think so droll. And, is there are some questions that have been like this? No, I've never had a relation.

I've never had never had a of a co-be of a of my life?

No. Is it is it is there because I can't I'm going to I'm going to

to see the idea that you can be intimate with a person in all in all the

sense emotionally physically and it's important to pass the time with this

person to make some to make concessions because if you're invested in It's it's finished, we'll be sure,

chau-bye, it's like, I don't get not, it's not, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

it's something that's something so I'm trying, so I'm not, so is that you levite because you're afraid?

I'm, I'm trying, I try to try to test a bit, we're going to when you're like,

when you're, because I'm a person very interested, you know, my family, I'm there, if you're the

you're there, if you're that there's a way there's a in the life and I'm trying to

test a bit and when I'm found out that it's it can only in a sense

and often when you when you when you're when you're having to you're an bit of

you know I'm a bit of the obsession you know you're having obscded you're

a question you can get to you can't get to a change that's just just in a sense

and you know, I'm in the impression that in the society of today, you know,

all the very, very, very rapid, and that's never enough to know, I've noticed,

or that, or that, or that, or that, we're saying, ah, no, I'm,

it's, it's when I don't any importance, you know, you don't a little, and you,

you, you, you're going, there, there's a there, there's just just because

you, it's just because, you're just because, that, that I'm that's you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I'm not not quite, how do,

experimented an exchange that's a sign and where I had not the impression that I

had too on a day. You know, it's bizarre, you know, when you

don't to your person, or no, you're not supposed to attend

an return, it's what we say, okay? I'm, I'm, I'm not

of time, because at a moment you don't, you don't, you don, but, like, I'm like, a relationship, it's a exchange, of all. And, I'm, I think, that's my, it's that, that's my,

it's that, I'm, that's, but you're, but you're much in anticipation. Yes, that's true. Yeah. You're more in your moment. Because, you know, let's, let's, it's,

it's, let's, it's, it's, but it's two-in-ne-ne-ne-ne-exceptionable, or you've lived something, you know, you know, you're, there, there are couples

that are the couple that are different, there are the couple that when you're going to separate, at least you have been in, there's a lot, you know,

there's, you know, there's, there's, but, they're saying, this person that made, if we've

had to live to live in and then, and they're maybe they're going to be a few, you know,

but there, there's there's a thing, we're doing, we, we're doing, on,

to know, we're trying to see, we're trying to see, and, and the times,

in the , You know, there are these amours that are at and that's and they're in

you know, you're going to have some to get to the time, they're going to be able to be able to

do you know, is it's you have to pass at the potential amoeoe because

that's this anticipation no, because the signos that I have always it's always

been, as it's very intense at the beginning, and I'm the impression that,

I don't know, that there was always a question of, how to say that it's not it's like,

there's a kind of, there's a question, then it's a there's, it's, it's,

it's, the first, the first, maybe, the first, maybe, so, but you know,

that's a intense? No, no, I'm not, when it's intense. In- you know,

I'm not, you know, I prefer to go, to go, I'm I'm trying. You're trying.

You know, you'll go to go down to doce. Yes, I think okay, that's my

theory. Yeah, I'm, it's, it's, and then, and then, after,

I don't know, several months, or if it goes to a relation serious, okay, but the

people start, like, it's, it's not for a moment. It's not to work for

to be but, but is something that you want? No, I'm not,

I'm not I don't think. But I'm good, I'm really good. I'm just a few times. I'm my wife. I'm my ch. I'm my ch. I'm my parroquet. Well, tell me, your parroquet.

Yeah, Chloe. She's really, it's really cute. My parakeet, when I, my parakeet talks, Chloe, the morning, when I'm revelled, I'm in the dush, she me say, fiu, fiu, sexy. So, you know, I get

to the recone, you know, this morning I, I was reweighed, I'm in a Cooier You know, you know, you're like,

you know, there's not a time, you know, I'm not, I'm gonna I'm gonna

I'm gonna like that's, but I'm so much also. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

it's fun, yeah, yeah, just for have a bit, you know, a little thing,

a bit of, a bit, a bit, yeah, you know, I'm, yeah, I'm,

you know, I'm, so I'm there's some, you're on the scene,

seduction for you, that? The link with the public? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's like, well, it's Lazzara, you, it's, it's,

it's, uh, arrived in this space of a world that I me,

I've been and to offer to people um, but do you have,

you know, you're in you're there, you're, there, a, there's a

sensuality also in my personality, so it's so we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, it's what I'm going to say, justly, Lanzara, well, if you're your character, it's a

, in fact, you're a woman, in fact, you're a, man, you know, I'm saying, there's been, someone else, but, but, I'm sure, the way to tap, the way, the fashion to be, the way to make, there, there, there's,

of sensual, we, we, we, we're, and so, you don't have this sentiment that's is the

feeling that's you know that's that's you're in the power I know

I'm I'm, I'm like to get coquette I'm I'm live my

sensuality for me I'm I'm sure I'm I'm with some with some

actress like Arline Monroe I just I'm and I'm

completely abey before you and I like wow, what

beautiful a beautiful a woman and a splendor, it's magnificent, no

how you present, and I'm presented, like I'm doing to do to do with my public,

because I feel like, I'm, I'm feeling femme. And there, presently, how do you

sound? I'm so I'm so I'm not, because, you know, we're, I mean,

I mean, not the that's, that you, that you, that's, that you, that's,

in the way of your vatement, in the choice of your , of your machiage, like Marilyn Monroe

exactly Yeah, it's it's, it's it's, it's, you know, again once

you know, you can you can't be able to be the person that you know and,

you know, we've reprodued a little what we have made that we that we're,

that's, so I'm, it's what I'm, it's a fact, it's, you know, when she

said, when she's said, I'm doing, I'm this song, it's incredible.

I have I've got to I have thought I'm yeah, but she's she's she said,

she said she'll say, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, you know,

there's no sex. You're you're with it's so. It's be but, but, you

I've learned, where I had had this sentiment of love in the song

French, in listening Renaud, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you've got, you, you know, you've she, she, they're doing

fun the love to public. And she's when she's like she she's a little like she's

like she's she's a she's a she's a she's my dream of her to do you know,

she's upset with her she's and it and it's past her backstage it's the

what's the disc no it's what? The disc? Oh, okay that's that

oh, okay yeah, yeah the it's like the music it's like yeah

yeah and I'm you know I'm not oh my my fan, you know, but she's, but she's

done it, I said, runifled because I wanted to have her perfume, and I said, but I'm completely maddened, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm trying to Oh, no, no, I'm, I'm going to be to do what to do with her?

It's incredible, this woman. Oh, yeah, but Jeanette, but her personality also. She is who she is? Yes, yes. In fact, there's not no, it's Jeanette, point. It's all.

There's no, there no concession with this I love, I love. And what's the voice? But is that you have already Chintetrenu? I'd

not. I'd not. How is you not can't be able to interpret Jeanette

Renaud? But the song that's the most more up, a little, a bit more a little

more. Yeah, it's a feeling. I think it's you could have to that you

can't be to the impression that it's sacralized. Yes, I, I don't,

I don't, I don't, I, I, and if, and if you doing with her? No.

Okay, it would it would be a other thing. I can look like to write a question,

maybe, I'm not maybe, you know, I'd perhaps, you know, a day,

I'm sure, I'm trying a new one of the song for a general, you know, the music, it's noble,

to get, in France, when you do you know, when you do you're, there, do you can't,

you can't, yes, you can't, the tonality, you know, the, you know, we're impose

these things, and you're like, no, you can't, you can't touch these artists, it's like, in case, for me, it's like, but I think the advantage of of these touches, is that, is that you're making to know it, that

because I said that, because I've used long time this discussion, with chanteer, chanteuse, who were, you, not really, for the repris, or, and I said,

yeah, but, there's a chenon man, there's a moment when the artist it's a new generation, and often, when we we're not

actually a new version when we re-frey a reprise of this song and all

we're going to see, we're going to see, it's a that's a oh, yeah, that's the time,

it's a new netronoe? And then a sudden a cut, you discover a repertory. And I

think that that, it's, it's many times even my my children,

I mean, I know, I know, I'm, it's just when I'm when I'm when I'm

don't, it's not the tune of the artist, no. And then I said, oh, yeah, David Bowie. You see, you know, you see, he decoves.

Vient at a so far, I'll tell you. But if, if they're that they know their generation they'd have not made, well, he would have not reculed in the time. So, yeah, I see that like, like, like, as these privileges

to offer to those others. No, it's true. I think that's just, the grand chantees, I try to my abstainer, but, but it's true. There are, there are there, there are these interprets

that are incredible. Oh, yeah. It's who? It's a song. It was a big in Japan. Yeah, I'm going to... Yeah, well, I'm a... There's a...

A. Bound... I hope. ...an blonde... She's... She's... She's a great deal. It's magnificent. No?

It's a... It's been... Oh, no, but it's not what I think. But I see, it's what... Big in Japan. It's... It's... But, you know, there are

there... ...that are... ...that... ...he's... ...iterno... ...it... ...it... It's too...

What's what? What's the... What's the... What's the... Oh, my God. I was... I'm sorry. She was...

She was like to be the music plus. Well, I was like the... The TV, and I'd like, I'm gonna I'm sorry. I'm just like, oh, Celine?

It's a dang that. It's like my second-mer and... And why you why you feel even more

to even my sister if we had a radio and we had a radio and we had these cassettes and I'm I'm a

so much I'm a like I'm and I'm sorry I'm gonna make the cassette and I'm gonna always the debut because you were

okay because you have enregistrated because you know what you know what's because the animator they were also until the first

until the first time that I'm enraved that yeah I'm enraved that yeah I was I always I had always I was always

I used for all my songs that I enregistre oh dear sacred rock but because he I've done I've done

of the radio and the idea is to talk on the intro just as as the words but when

we're in we're not Apple Music or Spotify I see the cassette Yeah, so that's

with Slim Zoh it's a it's a it's wow and sometimes I've put some many I'm like

on the same or even of Daluda you know sometimes I do you do you know I do you

copy the application to get to see it to be regarding it's what your song

to Cilline for that you even encore It's still I don't know I think there when I'm when I'm

when I'm when I'm know that it's really a time that's really that's incredible it's Lune

Wow and you have made the Eurovision not Comelle? Not as I've made

the Eurovision but I mean you you're participating at Eurovision yeah yeah you know

you see? Mm-hmm Mm-hmm it's no I'm I'm

how how we're dramatized this of things. Oh, but it's, it's,

it's all well, it's so, no, but I mean, it's a time of course, it's a

important, it's a passage important in your career, it's a matter, you know, you've done, you've used, you know,

how they've would be chosen to do you, you know, we've got to see, that also, it's not

the same it's not the same, but you know, but you know but you're not more,

you know, all the all, all possible? All, all you're possible. All, is,

Is you ready for the last question? The question has puttorezio? Okay. What is the Petitima Zara would say

of the woman that you are? Ooh. I think she would be able I think it would be content. Yeah.

Because I'm in trying to do all what I have wanted to do do you have. At which

the moment the petite to see her Pizu to Cilline at the screen in the screen to be Is that you

like to be like to say I'm like she said I'm like she's she was she she'd impressioned? I'm impressioned

but you know you'd in the front of course I don't know I'm saying I'm saying wow and when

it's always when I've made my god I've made an I've made an album like like

like the other chanteau the real chanteau you know it's really so I'm like I'm okay

I'm like maybe there's there's a thing you're in the universe, you know, it's like,

oh, I, I'm going to do that, but it's totally impossible. You know, at my

time, 90, the chanteer, it's really, oh my God, it's a rarity, it's an thing incredible,

it's a because you have a lot of talent, you know, it's, wow. Today,

I think that's the same thing, but it's much more accessible, you know, But anybody who can

do that an album. So I'd never could imagine to make an album, go to

see a some of the people who want to be a selfie with a selfie. You know,

it's like, I'd never think of that. So, I'd like, she'd like,

oh, you're like, she's a mom also. And I see mom. Ah,

that I'd never crue when I were when you when it surprise.

It's not something to which you thought you know, no, no, no, no. I think

that all this parkour and, I think that the petite Fatima

would be very content. Well, I'm really to know to know to be to know,

you're a person I think singular in your view, you're affirmed

I, I'm like I'm like people like you have been there been very

my friends, absolutely. No, but in the sense where you have a personality, and you know, you know, you've got had some of the presence, because it's sure that if we brim, a personality also strong

that's not, it's a explode. It's exactly. And there, we'd say that it's been it's out of something else

of that, you it's like, it's like if you're, you know, the life, it, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, And that's when it's

when it's when it's when it's often, it's always, there's a people, if there's there's

that they're to get to their own, and they're to, how it's using like a tramplein,

you know? So, I'd you're the way of the future. At you also.

Really. I'm I'm going to see on on the scene on the scene on on

you're in trying to prepare that? You're are in trying to prepare

that? Okay, but it's good, because I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to backstage Yeah, yeah

Oh, yeah, yeah, but we're We're making and all right, you're doing to surcelling, but because you have something

You have something that's sure that on scene, I think it's, it's, it's an grand experience to be on

because you have that in you. I hope that's all, that you'll appreciate. I mean, I don't know, if I like that, if you're saying,

I'm saying, I'm actually, I'm sorry, but absolutely, when I'm going to be when I'm going to, I think, it's for them, you know, if there's something, I mean, you know, I'm saying, me, that's what, I'm saying, me, that's what, you know,

people, you know, it's going to be convinced, I, in this case, I'm abstain. If I think, I'm a doubt face to the artist, that I'm going to go, by respect,

or the art, that, you know, that, you know, that, you know, it's always in the view, to aim that, and, and, sometimes it's

that's not that that's what's going to say, I'm going to say I'm going to say that. So if I'm

going to know it's not a very old, it's a pleasure to be a pleasure to be in our studio here at Ovretton Jue.

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