Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #153 - Claude Bégin | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

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If it's just for me. Is it you've had the feeling rapidly, when you had your first when you had 24 when you had your son? Yeah, I was at 25. 25 years?

At that, is that you have, you've resented that's this notion of

sense? It's the it's it's a I'm, you know, I'm I'm

like, I'm like if you don't live for for so, but I have got

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So, like I'm saying in intro, I think we're going to get to be this kind of this is mysterious

I'm not not that you think it's just not a someone who's so over then we're we're trying

to the other Bejaint. Thank you very much. Is that you're doing with me it's always

when we sometimes we're like a big brother you know we're doing we've seen we've seen

we've seen come in on it's maybe just a a face you know, you know you're a face

of a mystery I'm probably a face of mystery because it's very at a lot of different in a lot of

project I'm you know, I'm not so mysterious, it's not so but is that? But is

that? But if I'm so, I'm so, I think there's a lot of cast

where we're saying, ah, you know, it's like it's like, so it's

it's called on some specific for that, yeah, it can be an advantage. Recently, we've booked it to what, I think we've got to be able to, I think, we're like, someone mysterious,

a little sexy, mysterious, okay? It's me. I don't force not the mystery, that's, so, it's so, at least, and then, I'm asking,

what's what? That's, it's very, the question that at each time, I'm like, you know, I've always responded to the music,

but, you know, what I do, what I do, what I'm doing the life, it's, in what I consider to be to be in the music

I'm, it's sure recently I've made my album so I've got done more more than it's like a

kind of five percent of my time to what I consider to work so what I'm what I'm in life?

I'm in the show business in the an sort entrepreneur I've discovered this mobe that

kind of too in my life media social I'm There's a spectacle. I do,

I do some of the lines, some of the voices, some of the things. You're doing

you're a artist? Yeah, so you're to respond, I'm a artist, I'm not

no. It's like, it's a well, I know, because you have, you're a

part of an, actor also? I'm, I'm saying, I'm saying, the morning, the crepe,

I'm doing, and I'm there, they're, they're, they're, they're I've always, I've

always, I've always, in my life, in my own artistic, in proving that I'm doing in a lot, and it's like, in the first, I'm making to design

all the world, I made to designate all the school. And the people were, and the people, it's, it's, it's, it's a very,

beautiful, portray, let's, let's, I'm, you know, I'm super-fired of me, because I was poach at the school, and it felt

that I'm not, that I'm not, that's part, I was, I'm music also, I had to, I had, the armonin of,

harmonies facile, and in a few everything, I'm a pretty much I'm doing quite a bit of

I'm doing I'm a artist, but we're saying it's a bit pedant, to say that, I see what,

I'm a question, but it's bad, with the you do it, but, I see, I'm,

okay, this, this is an artist, I'd say, that's an engineer, so, that's a

math, that's, you know, I'm trying, if I'm saying, if I'm if I'm saying, if I'm,

if I'm a person, I'm not judge, you attribute not this title. It's sure

that it's my life, but it's not, it's not, I'm not I'm able to say,

I'm a job, but yeah. And in the same time, you can't say what's that job. Ah,

no, it's been too, uh, it's, so you'd say, what, I'd say, well, I'd say, I'd say,

it's completely on, you're a , I'm a , I'm, I'm, I'm a, constantly,

I'd say that that's, that's, that's a chimimimim that's, that's, impression that you're that's a

adapt and that's a lot, that's not rigid, I'm not, you know, I'm in my life,

I'm in it's a multi-disciplinary we're doing that's an artist multidisciplinary Yeah,

and it's a branding quite a different sometimes, you know, sometimes it's yeah, to make,

to make a a car, a manage, to see, because sometimes I think there I'd advantage

to concretize and, because it's very palmeal, you know, there's like, I'm a

do-do list, like all the world. I have some of the end of my agenda, I think, I've got to

go to go to go to work, I'm going to work, I've been to work, I've never ever,

I've ever the chance of that's a that's a lot of that's a podcast, kind of

that's my little moment at the business, so, you're so, so,

so you're with the end, it's a project to do, it's a big acts. We said, we'll

have to take some of couple, obligate. It's going to be a podcast. So, in plus, to nourire our work, it's a moment,

it's a little therapy on the side, because we want to be together with you jogs for a minute, it's a kind of

therapy. So, I like, I'm really the hackles. That's a pair of three, four, coup, but

it's like two two weeks, I, I'd like, I'd probably a little more to be a bureau. You'd have been more. Yeah.

I'd say when you're saying when you're going to after the series Lizandre and Claude, I've got a few weeks, not two weeks, not two weeks, not two years,

then I'm saying, but I'm saying in entry to I've been, I've been to see with Lisand, evolve,

with, it's a blaze, and it's terminate, it's clear, the little area, you have been very

generous, to show your life like so. Then, we're we're going to open,

I'm going to see, you know, it's a minute, but not me, you know. Yeah,

I'm, yeah, but, you know, I was, I'm, I'm, I'm a lot that,

it's not two years that I'm just to that's but I'm but I'm in the

mo, you do you do you're on the thing, we're the mysteryue, the

mystery, we're, we're we're we're going, we're we're going to we're

we're talking we're So, Closone, the cards, in passage, I remember, when Liseande is been doing to do it, you're with Blaise here in our dorm, and you'd attendee, and there, you're not, you're alone.

No, she'll turn, also, on the border. Okay, so, Blase is not in trying to attend the otherboard of the door. F'clock, so you're at a garterer. So, you're in a couple of sorts. It's good, so. Nive-Varre, Clos,

is some of order general. The level, on the road, we're in something more specific to your story. The Nive-Rose, we're something of something of the most intimate to your story.

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And then, it's a question? No, it's never to be a question, but if you ever

if it's ever, I'm going to do it, because I'm, what I'm going to be that's not, that's the

that's not, that's the there's a there's a consequence to do it. It's never,

never, like, of all the time of course. It's never to happen. It's good,

but it's correct, because, I'm, it's correct, because it's that it's not respond, she has a

way, it has a way, because it's a way for me to have a consentment, to go to

get a lot of but it depends because there are some people who are they're trying to respond, they think they're going to have

to have done and a friend and they're going to make the Joker. So, I'm not you know,

you can't because you have done a podcast, I'm sure. No, I'm sure,

I'm still I'm still I'm very I'm very I'm still, what you're I'm used, what you're

so, you're so, you're used so, so level, you go to you're many five.

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me like graphically mounted all that I'm sure I choose all this also

when I when I'm tattooers tattooer I said I always you're always you

have to be interpret because it's really if you can

to be to Exactly like that, we go. But I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm trying to, you know, like that's an interpreter. I've been asking five. I don't know five. Yeah, you're choosing five.

Okay. There, there, there are, there more. Okay. I'd have tend to, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd have the, I'd, do you know, first, first. You'd say, you'd say, huh? No, it's because, I'm not, but it's because, when there's, there are people who are doing, they're really,

relationship with the cards that's different. It's like they want to see, it's like, they want to be able to have like... I've got to say but you know,

it's not going to do you know, that's what I'm doing so. That's what, you do you do, that you're going to that, you're going to that's a bit of your

so, so you're going to go to be able to. So the card that you'll have not read to you can't, it's partying. When I'm

when I'm in the mirror I see, how react you to the authority, what's important you accord you to regard

of the other what you're and what is your definition of the word so you're in to choose one to answer and then

I'll choose one of the four that's I'll rest So I'm a question to answer one of the five

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about yes two questions on five how I'm how I'm interesting that but I'm

how I'm saying I'm at the authority. And that, it's, it's a malume, like, but if you

the bad card, it's the good, you, regard, the other, probably the

more interesting, what have you have you fear? Excuse me, I'm, I'm really someone,

to learn, when it's written, especially when it's, like a, like, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I, I, and I, and I, and, and,

and, choasers, to, choose, it's very difficult for me. I've always always loved

to do you don't know in general very difficult I'm doing like to want to like, I'm going to

restaurant you're saying give me to say give me a push to every thing in the menu.

I'd that's a every time. Because you have to have to get to something?

No, I don't know, I'm maybe the faux mo of the other

of things, but we're what's what the is the boucher

will be good if the contrast with the other ideas all the

whole time or that why you know, why you why you know the about the

two or the three, I don't know because that's that that's that's a intense

if it's intense, yes, it's very, it's very intense. I'm I'm,

I don't know because I say, I think the regard of the other, the regard

of the other, you see, that, what the importance to regard of the other.

We'd say that I'm doing that I'm doing I'm in seeing regard, we're not just

regard, the earie of the feeling of the other, the feeling of in community, what is what you represent

for the what is what, what's the I've done to do you're really like, the moment when the

people who the music, I'm doing the music that's that's all that's what I'm doing the

good to offer of others. I I'm that's it's it's

I think I think it good me I'm it's really the

partage of the partage of the I'm doing you know to be good

you're to learn to be a person adult to be entire and

they're and when you get to be to this frequency

that that that that you that you get that they're

they're want to they're to feel to chile with

you have to get to you You know, I'm like my life,

it's the that that that's the that's the that's the show business it's a lot that's really,

the people have you're to consume what you're doing, is what you have to adapt? Is it due to adaptate in function of

other? But I, I don't, it's like there's there's a there's like, there's

like, you know, really, you know, learn to be, you know, I'm, I'm,

you know, I'm, I'm never feel to the same, I've always I'm I'm

I'm arranging to be I'm in I'm trying to I'm in a question. Is it you know what

if you're if you're if you're to adapt to that's the point that? I've never had an

impression that you're at the best who we're in who we're we're in, we're in we're real,

we're in we're in it's a tissue social along what we're in my impression that I'm

I'm feeling at, I'm, you know, I'm very chancer, but I think I've construed on the best a good place.

A show business, the ego, all this, it's these, grand, moment of attention, and the,

and, the glorification of the ego, and when it there's people, it's, it can be demonted, it,

it can't get to demot to get in question, it's been, a long build-up, not too rapid, not too,

big peak, not too the gross descent, a lot of projects diversified, a lot of perspective, you know,

I'm in 42 years, I'm going to show business like a very early, a year, the show,

the video clips. You know, all that is a good tool for having constructed to be a

way and you work also the scene, you're also for other artists.

Yeah, I'm at the base, a geek of studio, you know, I'm like that

tricote the music, on the on the computer it's really the contrary

of what I do you know what we're what we're doing to do you know for many of that's interesting because I'm super janeed

who's super to play a beat for a super long time plus the result of that but there

you have to go to go to great mix feeling the scene because it's the contrary

to be alone in his chamber to gossed on the music You have you have you You have to

Degauge Something to It's a person It's a question It's a question Because we're in Yeah, It's not the

same kind of performance Don't put in The people The people It's like It's happening But I'm

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I'm I'm When I'm I'm I'm I'm discovered to be the contrary what it's what we're doing to

you're doing to address to people do you know, do you're doing? Is it you feel like with a super power when you're on on scene? Well, no, but the dose that's done of connection,

of adrenaline, of this moment that extraordinary, yeah, it's it can give it's, it's like you're like, you know,

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, I don't have not an impression to become someone of

but I've discovered the co-cote that's that's anything that I've made things that

I'd never think. Like what my example? Like, like, well, you know, the sort of

the genre of we've made with my group at a clans on-a-en- -sombed, I don't know, I'm, I

know, I'm on cano, on Chess, with a cap of the Bah Canada, in a sort of

a kind of quat absurd. In Cheval Serpent also, I've made a

strip in a case with a choreography with a great thing, you know, I'm quite

of the whole of the time, really the moment that I'm the most challenged

it's really when I did the Chavale Serpent, that I had joined a

It was by Fabian Laroche and other. Yeah, and I was there

I'm going to the audition, I've never had ever some people, in

some of the room, it's very stressful and I'm going to they're going to say, well, they're doing, they're doing,

improvise a strip tis. You know, improvise a stripstiz. That's your own audition. The little Claude,

the primar there's like a little porcelain, I say, I say, clang, cling, clang, cling,

he's, all, all, all, I'm just, but, there, there,

there, there, there, there, there, there, there, you,

there, there, there, that are the long of a table, and then you do have, and then you do have a, and then you're doing a striptease complete? No, no, no, no,

but, you know, you're in a boxer? You're in a boxer? But, I mean, I've got to practice that, I'm not, it's improvised also, but, you know,

the only reference that I see, is the few times when I'm going to talk to, you know, to do you, know, so, so, I, I've done my version

lagoeuse of what I've just seen, but it's super gendant. It's like the thing the thing that you can do you can't,

you're all, They've got to see if you can do you have to be able to do you know, sometimes it's it's a secure

to have a little plan. Well, yeah, there there's not there's not, there's been there's been

there's like, that's like destroyed the but they've been, you know, you've been that's been yeah,

and I've been yeah, I've been, I had, I had, I had, I was like natural

finally, finally. Finally, you've learned you've been a new, new, a new,

a new, new, a new, when you know, when you're You see, when you flew it at a time, like a sort of serpent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, I've done it, like, at all the ralanty, after that I'm imited some of the that I had been to, you know, guard, I don't know. But when you say,

they've, like, they've, like, they're, like, you've got to be possible, and super gendentent, it's never like that.

You redevien not jeaned, like before. It's like that you had that potential, but you'd never explored.

Well, potentially that all the world has that potential if you casse the

yeah, but perhaps not what you're not a dance, but it's that's like it

has been to put in the world in the way, yeah, yeah, so,

many, I'm going to I'm in my life, and I said to say to my son, sometimes sometimes I'm

sometimes it's a bit more like a kind of kind of I'm doing, you know, I'm not

always in the life, it's, I'm trying to be a super, my father, and recently

it's a source to that, I think the The thing that's the most advanced, it's literally

the things that are the most challenging and that I want to be spontaneous and it looks quite quite

cliche, but there had been a couple of reproves recently, it's not the fun,

and it's not the fun, but it's not the rest the things that will be the more

grander, evolve, it's, it's evident, we're saying you'll let's be let's be

put to be pitch you in the affairs like, uncomfortable, really the plus possible.

Yes, but it's that we're that's hard to do you know, because it's hard to do you

in a zone where you're in and there, and then, and we know that once we had traversed, as,

as, we will be, we're, we're, we're gonna be there, we're quite of the

uncomfortable because we see, and then it becomes a little, we're we're used to

as we like he, in time as a parent you want to make your children the most of the

thing is absolutely ironic. So I'm like, we're all we're all always the comfortable to get the more comfortable

but the advice is the contrary. In the he redemnage at us he's been an adult and it's

really a other way he redemines with you old, yeah it's a year and it's

like a kind of like a her mind in the circumstance we're choosing that we're all

all all of return to in Montreal, I'm going to to have a first time to make a

first time of my life that's the first time I'm not in a few weeks and then you're doing it's a little

soup and then at the end it's impossible and finally there's no it's not the thing it's not it's been

he's doing he's not really with his mother but there he returned to my family we've got

to buy a house and all the whole whole world will rest together it's a good challenge

because, you know, it's a girl of 30 and who's a woman and two men, and two children, and two children,

we're young. We're saying, well, it's normal. It's so, it's a podcast. Well, it's that,

it's like, it's, it's like we, it's, it's like, it's, it's fascinating, that,

because you have really two young children, you know, you've had, you know, you've had,

you know, it's a challenge, that also. It's, it repose the limit also. Yeah, yeah.

You're like like the part, you're like that you're the line, it's the link between all this

whole world there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And we're we're very well

with the mother of Roman, of my old union. And it's even, you know,

it's even, it's all that they can't like, it's the same that's

the little gang, the new gang, the yeah, so you have really your

attribute? Completely. And how it's pass this, that your ex, the mother of your wife,

is she, she'd know the old Isandre before? Yes. Okay. When I was

there, Big Brother, we're out of, we're going to think, it's very per year, like a debut of union

in, you know, you know what the people don't know, and the first contact that I've

had potentially at Elise, the mare of Romain, the marred of my first, and he was content,

content, content, content, super embaled but it's it's a long time we're we're in

it's it's like it's a it's over past all the things in the in these

in these relations it's done my old chum or not and she's your new blonde and she's

yeah you're super content she's sound super well I'm

I think there's there's there's there's that you're never to get

the person but not no different in the same form but resouded a family, but

we, we're we've really seen. Yeah, and it's like your two other children. Well,

that's like practice. In plus, the parents are, at the point, we've tried to say,

it's like a little great-mer, but, you know, it's not that's not like, it's not

like, it's not, and for your first, the fun also, uh, yeah, yeah,

it's like, it's a legitimate all this whole, absolutely, it's very the fun,

we're very very chanso. So, My question, because you've kind of looked at and I'm interested, I'm going to ask you,

how react you to see, how do you get to react? Is it all the world who do you know, is it all over? We've done

have made 150 at that, there are all sorts of reactions. There are all sort of reaction face to that there are

many people who, there are many people that's spontaneous, there are that they want to there's always to say, I'm going to

I'm going to the person. Because I said you know, as there's things written or the choice

or a list I'm I'm doing I'm quite but it's more than you have more to have a

point in the point of the point out of the level there's the lot of the level of your life

my life it's like there's like there's like there it's kind of comfortable if you

if you don't too of it's it's uncomfortable at I'm I'm not

in a privilege to have plenty of choice it's it's a it's a it's a calver

Well Because when there are times when you're when there are when you when you're not, I'm

you're not, it's your it's a little so the game so if I'm because you're having to you're

because you're to react you to have I'm going to because I've seen the word authority if it it's like

it's it's not it's not it's but you know, I'm I'm sure

I'm I'm sure if I'm after I'm after attention because automatically there's

there's a sort of there there's there that there's I'm just, I'm really a Chris, I'm...

I don't know, I'm... I don't know, you know, don't know, that's, you know, that's not, I'm not going to, like,

I'm doing to ask, I'm going to because I'm... That's, like, that, you know, that's, you know, that, I, I'm not

that you know, that's, I'm , I'm absolutely, if it's not my fashion, it's like, it's like, it's, like,

it's, like, it, or, you, or, figure of authority, you, it's been very difficult. Very, very difficult.

Is it, when you're in, when you were when you're young, a figure of authority in your family?

It's because I'm not been able to the authority. It's really, if I did something, to consider it

not bad, or who can , you know, to know it to me, I'm at my own own to, you know,

I'm into, I'm not, and it's not my mother that's a, we're not, we're not we've not

to be, we're not, we're not there's, there's, there's, there's, and it's,

what I can't it's the honesty, but total, if there was something that I could not

say, it was not so I'm I chose to do it to do it and if she she had

had made something, and I was that's question, and I'd say, to see,

to see, I'd go on the decision to put the decision to do it, but,

you know, it's zero in, like, you've not conued that, no,

and I, and if, I, if you, if you know, if you're It's hard to be

due to be to be able to get the authority is made to be the authority is you know, you know, you're not the

right to the depace. So, that it's a good to be able to get to pass it to see what it will do that

it's not automatically you don't know you're not what's you're going to do? But it's the consequence

the consequence me makes a consequence is relative, I'm always I've always searching the liberty

so I'm I'm react very much to the authority, it's not something for me. I have, by the country,

my mother was very authoritative. You had a good to be the... I was there. I was there. It's made for that the authority.

It's for that I'm, it's for that. It's a... It's an... It's an... It's an nonsense for me total. I'm just not,

but it's really like that. When I'm when I'm in a card, like, the school where there's there's a

extraordinate, because it's like a relation to... We're... We're... we're on, you know, we're on the limit, not to fashion authoritarian. And I'm arrived in a class

where it's someone who's like to decide that you're like an old, he would not I'm going to be in the... I'm going to take a course

at the exterior of the class, literally, and I'm not someone of annerve, of violent, of who cries, zero,

you know, you know, you're not able to be in a context like that. So, so, so...

So, they're going to be on to be graduallyly for X reason, they're going to feel,

there's a there's a, there's a, there's a question, so it's a different, it's that it's a

very personal over the person in the person, in the phone, that, for it's like, to establish their authority,

because it's that's so, it's so, it depends how you, it's always, you can't get to be

there, it's normal, we're in society, they're in some, there's some, there are some,

there are, to use, to use an authority that, that's, there's not there,

there, there, I think he exerts an authority without that's never that's apparent. It's like, you know, these leaders natural, positive,

that's true, that are you want to be, where is you do want to be, but you do you think you know,

you think, you know, you're doing, that's, you know, yeah, that's probably accepted,

if it's not to make, the good way, and with your end, is that you think you

should be authoritative, or have you have you have been with your wife, but,

I'm, I've tried, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've, like, I've been

what my my mother has done, I'm doing, you know, we're really granded just with my mother.

And, and we've been a lot of adult to adult, and my and my son, and I'm, I'm,

you know, sometimes you're, the first, you're the impression to have, the contrary, of what you've had,

you know, and he, it's like if he'd have had been of the authority, I'd have used

of authority, I'd have used of a card to that, and I'd have a lot, Yeah, but, you know, I'm not even

that I've been able, so I don't know how to do that. I've made, what I'm doing, and I've done it's been very, you know, there's a good thing, there's been in, all the sort,

and I was, you know, had said something, it was evident that it's not bad, you know, and it's not, and it's not, no, but it's not it's not, you know,

it's like the contrary, it's like, it's like, he had made his limits, there where he thought, it was, that it was, it was a sense or not,

and that, I thought that it it was of not, you know, accorded with me. I could

not do not do you know, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's not,

to create a little army there who I'm not any skills, no, but your but you,

not, you know, the figure of authority, it's, it's always stereotyped, but I mean

documented, that's still, that's, often the figure of that, it's a figure paternal, um,

for a we've done we've done, it's it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not,

there was not of, I'd say that the word doesn't but, you know, at some, there's always, there's always

there's always there's just, it's not under the name of the authority. But I think it's a

good way that's a way of, because she was, you know, how many of a few?

Two. Because, you know, I've been I'm not alone, I'm not alone,

my radio, I was there, but the week, he's a often, you know, and when

we'd had to I was going to three children and I was all, I'm like a minority

like a parent. So you know, you know, you have the choice, to say, is like the army at the

house, all you're all the thing, the cloture, you know, there's a boy,

and there's a matter, I'm not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not,

there, there was, there was, there was, there, there had been there, and I've had been

there, and I've said, is, is, positive? In my, in my case, it's not

been positive. I was more like an advocate who was defending at five against the time.

So you're a bit of a contrary? I'm a contrary. I'm, I'm in reaction, I think.

And even even again today, I'm with my children who's still, I'm still in a reaction to something

to, hey, why we're why we're doing, no, but all you can't do, but all you

it's possible, that's true, it's so, we're, you know, we've done our lives like that after after also,

you know, why we're we've said that I could not, and then it's that's that it's that's it's a lot, you know, it's it's a lot.

Yeah, because sometimes we're there's never, and there's not, you know, I think you know, to think it's not true, we're

to do you know what, you know, you know, it's, you know, it's, it's been it's been, but if I had done, it's

against me, against who I'm who I'm, I'm, I'm, would, I'm, I'm,

maybe she was maybe she maybe she's, maybe, she's, but I had, not had been I don't want to imitate

someone. I mean, I'm trying in my... Well, it's so, you do the same

or you're in the contrary. But we're the right to ask you, see, I think, they're in

there's there's probably, they're probably, they're going to see like a mule, but you know,

you said, the regard of the other, he is there, I know, but when you get to your things,

you're made, to be in your way, you're not in the regard of the other. Absolutely. But it's

because they they're going to try that more school, my manner, no way. They're going to they're going to

they're doing they're doing a lot more more cool than what we're doing to do to do you know, do you know,

is what you're doing to do you're in the education in education now? Oh, yeah,

we're, you know, we're, you know, the people are like, the things are more exposed, and

there's a part, you can't like, you can't be, you, we can't, there, we can't,

I'm not, you know, I'm really, you know, I'm trying to say, we're going to, it's a lot of, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, in a while,

I mean, I, I want to reinventing my thing, I want, I want to see only my feeling, I want, that you know,

a, I'm trying to to bring a concede, but I'm absolutely I can't, I'm not, I'm not going to

do you know, there's, you know, there's, you know, there's, you know, but, you know, if I feel not,

it's not, it's not, It's been... The mother of my first son, she was a lot of and she, she,

she, she, she, she, she said, with bain to the end of the question that we've done

that I've that I'm in the encounter of your feeling. She was, she had been more. Oh, yeah,

but it has been a force also. It's, sometimes it takes the perspective the perspective, the force,

you know, sometimes, you know, for to turn your to take, it's a to have to

not all the energy we're not in the way, we'll say, we'll do with it's like, it's probably not quite,

it's not, it's not really very very value of my own, to make my different, to do the different,

to do, to do, the contrary. So, you, I'm, I'm going to my new papa and I'm

continue in the direction we're doing, we're not like the other, we're doing, we're doing, is it

is a bit is a question? Is it when Lise when you, you have you your son like you

have already been before you're you're in the parentality

is that you see it's it's like it's there's there's been there's a there's not a

yeah yeah I'm going to you know it's it's like it's a in the

feeling is that each my end their vibe and it's

not the same I'm I've I've got a we'll discover we're going to

I've got to get to be a lot time. It's a lot of you know, in your life also, I imagine. In a other setup,

it's that, I have really the feeling to recommence at zero a couple of, oh, yeah, I see how much, that's a

pen, and try, I'd be to give the advice, we're doing, we're doing, and we know, it's of

our values that, that will be that, we can't, we'll be, we know, we're just

never, we're just, we're, what's what like the clash between our but it's a

quite a lot of but it's like it's what, it's what, it's what, it's what, it's what, it's what,

it's what, it's what, that's, what's the temperament he will have and how I feel, by the

way, and the, the period of the life are different also, yeah, yeah,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, yeah, yeah.

Nive-Gone, Claude, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, You will have them

to make four So you're You have You have Choise one You're a Choir a choice

You're in But we're Ritcise the number of cards Brace Yeah, Yeah,

I see Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I see, Yeah, It's Brose,

Tain. You know, You know I'm done four I go I'm still Because

I'm I'm You're You're a You're You're Like, I'm like

You're like You're type of amourous, is you? What place when you can't be your life? What is the

paternity you bring, and at where you have you sent you in plain possession of your

one? Hey, it's these be great questions. I'm not if you have been made,

well, I think, they're, they're used in other other games, but I have been

much, it's it's not, it's, it's not the choice, that I'm Respond to

No, it's not these questions in tonnoyar Or I'm You know, I'm always The question That's what

To have what to Probably, probably with I know what I'm And then I'm You know, I'm gonna

In a life In a life You know, It's always The paternity That's about I'm in There's in

There's been You're not You're not You're not You're You've been To be able to I'm going to choose.

No. No. You have to choose. That's right. Well, let's see with that.

What's the part of? Hey, I have a sense to the life. The time I'm

imagine that I have not that I'm in relation or no. And that's that's the same thing in

the life, that, this work, this vibe, I'm there's a miser to, you know,

there's a why, why I'm for that for me, just for me, you know,

I'm not in trying to to ported to put a little knee and a something that going to grow

that gives a sense I'm in it's a feeling that's just for it. Is it just

for me? Is it you've had the feeling rapidly when you had a 24

when you had 24 years? Yeah, I'm at 25. 25 at this moment at the

at the have you have to have resented that this notion of sense? It's like,

it's it's a I was like, I was I was, you know, I was, you know, that's, you know, that's not

live for, but if I'm not something to construct, it's like to be the same, of the house,

not a house, you, construct just for there's something that I'm can't put in the ancient life,

not papa, it's really, but in the ancient life, not you'd not question. But no,

it existed not, I'd be cool, and bon, and to have these blonde that's the and that's the

and that's a good piece. Ah, yeah, that's, by a matter, you know,

you're a thing, you know, in the education, as we said until, it's like

if I, if I did a tune that I did a thing that that I wanted,

that I wanted, I'd change the power, you know, I'd that my could,

I'm could be listening, and it to be the time, is that, no,

no, I'd didn't, she, she that's wrong that's it's

it's my line I'm there's there's there's been there there's

there are being they're not necessarily exposed and it they're they're they're

my and it's really the tons they're to be public and if

it's if it's you protect your mother you're that you do that

you're that's what you're with the recule There's been of the people who have made

some people who are 17, 18 years he was a little rebel and they're they're doing they're doing

they're in a ruck it's not that's not not that's not not that I'm like I'm glad

to what is in this object that like if my mother can't be not it's

perhaps not a good idea it's probably that it's never been rebel face to

your mother absolutely not Yeah, it's that. It would have not not it's not

a sign of rebellion on the contrary and before before to be parents I think that's

that's to be a a good son and to try to to be to be

someone that. It's that your relation parental it was

versus your it's like it's there but it's something

that's something that had to have versus the versus your paternity to you're doing like

it's like an adult when you become a parent because you're just an you're not the infant

you're the parent it's like it's like a it's the grand switch is what is that has changed in your life

by your part of your artists to the approach artistic by about your amy

is that has changed like a mode of no no no no I've had the chance

that's you know All you know, and due I've not been a grand so, when I was when I was

never even young and it's the first child and the two ball, it's like we're like, we're all right, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I, you know, and I,

do the show, I, do, I, do you know, I, do you know, I've been, through the

world, we've really been very much, and, you, I, like, the impression of, you, by the role of parents

at the level of time and work so that in this moment I could not say that it's not

but that's not but I'm but I've been really long time before to get the point where there

I can be a miser to be a bit of sometimes sometimes I'm not not but

at the so it's it's been super tranquillement so it has not changed

my lifestyle music is that I'm maybe I'm more to think

to be in a lot of that's, there's not just that my mother can't it's like

a year they're going to be able but I'm no, but is it has been confirmed

something, like you said when I've been a old I'm, but

why I do this that would be doing a sense is it

does it doesn't even more more more to do what you

think yeah I think It's become it's it's it

takes it's even in the words that it's I mean, you know,

it's all, it's just, it's more more than, and to get to your own

your son that's that's someone for him? Yeah, oh, yeah,

and then it's an other sort of show, it's really, like, I'm,

I'm some example masculine, subrem, you know, it has not always been the

case, I said, my, my, my, my, my, My father

not necessarily my example masculine, Supremes I have a grandpair that's that's always

that's called that I'm to tattooed three, four of places. But these examples that,

I was like, I'm like, I'm, that's so, I wanted to for my father, but I'm

, yeah, it's so, and to more and more, at least it's a baby, he's not

in trying to see, what's my example masculine of what I do this my son,

my son, a, it's a adult, and it's particular, it's the moment where you shift that you

trip to to see who is better that's the job in the nature we're all the we're all

part to chaste the mammoth a matine because the troupe was he passed and he's he's better he's more

quick he vise more in the best in the best in the light I'm like in the life

and there's plenty of things that you're Not Meyer, but it's me who can be very it's been

long time. But this feeling that, that, that, that's, that's, it's really the

sense of the life. Talk me to Claude, your grandpair. What's he represented for you?

Probably, probably, it's called the same name that, that's one of these models masculine,

you know, it was really a model. It was Clote Bejain also. It's the And then,

Morin. Oh, Morin. And there's a droll of history, but I thought that I'm called to

call out of Clodd Morin until the secondar one. And at a moment, he said, there was

Lack of Niscence at the inscriptions, I think of you know, there's Bejain, there's a

name, there's not Morin, so I have to have a Claude Bejain. And I'm still a little rebele

against the Bejain, it was the family that I knew I didn't I

didn't why he was all the whole time Chianne and I'm I'm trying I'm trying on Marins,

it's not it's really really weird to have changed the name than my father no

more than plus it was not more than plus it so yeah it's like

it's like it's like he had been at large he had really really

to be to be and he and everything and all these many we've had

had been at the past the we had the same name. So I had

the impression that it's an idea of it's like with this person that I'm that I'm

the moment of great lesson of the life, it was like it's like it's written the name

it's just that. And it was fessed when he is deced I'm saying I realized

at what I had I had 27 years, I had 27 old debut adult

that's it's more like attach, you're more with your grandparents. It's passed

more to be the impression a little of the of the relationship to be able to

let's, it's been the first great pain of my life, to not to be able to

and it, he'd let's his family to go to, he'd he'd let's his

family all, and it's all over and it's it's it's it's,

it's even, again again, I'm trying to, to try, to try,

to be to learn, to be able, we can go in peace. Is it an impression

that you have been in you know, that's this day exterior that is transformed? Yeah,

it's like recently, we're like, we're not that, but I think I'm more more

I'm more need, to have this reference that. Like my my mother,

you know, if my mother could not listen, I'm changed the words,

I'd I'd I'd ask, or by default, or inconsiouslyly, to be a good affair, that's a good

thing, you know, the way, the way, the way, that's not a good idea. He was all the

time there. And he's been more there, and, you know, these, these, these,

these, these, and too plonged in, or a little mal-s-since, or in the show business,

you, sometimes it'd sometimes, it's sometimes, it'd be like, and he'd even there to say,

Pepe, I was like, I'm just in trying to be able to because he's not there for say that or because the life has been a turner who's

not the symbol of attention and I don't know I don't know I don't know you'd be the most I don't know

it's totally comfortable the comfort of to be sat feasibly it's con he fummed the pipe and it

was super good and then we We had tried of a morse of mebe that we had

finished. And the pause was like merited and it's peaceful, it was reassurant it was,

it was filled of vibes of bonoor simple. And is you have tattooed after his

deathis or he had already the tattooed when he had never tattooed. Okay.

All right that I had an one group acrophone at the time. And two

months after I said, but it's It's so It's Like I'm Like that That's

How's, I Like that I'm You know, I changed it You know, when you Think it's that you're You know,

you know, I think I'm That's really Why I'm Why I'm That's always The second tattoo,

I've studied Why, see that, And, okay, there are there's things that are there's so

that's that over bad, there are there there are there things that are because of

the sense, but the estates you're just on the sense, you know, it's something of aesthetic, it's

on you see you see that's all the way to he made, he had completely, but he made my construction

of what was a good idea of a tattoo, the things realise, these things, it's really aesthetic,

but he was there, there was a photo extraordinary of him with a six millimeter in the mind and we're

said a bit a gun, it was like a cover of film with these gross lunettes aviator,

and it's it's on he was on he was on he was on Batto. When the family, we've seen this photo we've said,

it's a superstar. Our grandparent was a super star. My, my cousin, and my son. And it's

that's a little bit of it's a little old old yeah, but yeah, we see that yeah,

and I'm a bit a little... A show to colonel a little, a bit, you know,

that's aesthetic because I would not that there's a gross tache black because there had a

a mantle nox, I wanted to it was an alternance Po, Ankhre. So I got changed his kit.

He made a little say, hey, I'd have never made that when I when I did that. You know

I said, no, no, but it's just that's just that's just it's just that's just

I'm trying to the plus, let's talk, the tattooage. I'm going with that but, yeah,

after, yeah, he's been he's been a bit everywhere. But it's so,

don't, you, you, you're you're port with you. Yeah, it's it makes it do it's a good

symbol. Yeah. Figure important in your life. Absolutely. So when we talk to paternity, there's a little

rapport also with your grandpair there in this image that of the grandpair kind of, of this form of an overture

also to and you're you're submitted to this authority in your whole whole in the

form? Well, yes, it's a form of authority. There's a other word than authority.

In fact, it's it's like in fact it's an opinion it's an opinion that's an opinion that you'd

accepted, that'd be perhaps, if someone you'd say oh, Polly, is that it does it do, it's a,

it's a, mentality, it's a, I've got to collie to call it to what I, so I'm,

I'm inspired to, and when he's not there, and when he's what the question that you've asked?

No, but it's, in the sense that you know, the authority is something to be able but I think

you're still you're still to be sensible to the opinion of those who them, when you talk to your

when you talk to your father, there's something of a similar. You don't do you want to deplear.

Yeah, it's my line of what is the good or mal a bit. And you decide

a bit, your grand your grandpa you can't the whole your When you say, I'll

say I'll I'm there's a something you go to go to the front. In what

sense? In the sense that she she has not view, and you decide that

she'll see that you know. You can't you anticipate what she could be

you let's not the you let's not the chance to think it's I'm

I'm I'm sorry you know you know you know you can't you can't that you're

not not to get that. even not, I'm not I don't want to be that's not so,

the relationship it's a lot of you know, there's a something of there's a yeah, it's a

bad that's a little the same the same the same, my line directress. It's the

Opelai, it's good that. It's good, it's, it continues in your there's even

not to tell, there's there's not there's been there's been there's been an angel

here, my mom she, she, she, she, she, But, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do, you know, we're going to, you know,

to try, you know, it's really, they're really, they're really positive. Yeah. They've been latehue, so, you know, even if your mother's still there, they've got to legged some, you know, but it's like they've been gayed that. It's the comprehension of things. Recently, I'm not, you know, I'm not always d'Aye, like, the upyle, and I've been a bit rebellee against one of the appellate of my mother recently,

and it's, it's insupportable for me. She's, she's a little to eschievous the subject because it had a little very much bettered. And I, who tried at all pretty, that we'd understand my point, because it was to be at the end of the, you know, it's just a disaccorded. It's like if we're telling us, we can not have the same opinion. But there, there, there's a firmature, I'd accept it. We said, we're going to go to be at the end of that.

And if we're not at the end of that, we can't talk about. I think it's a very sane, that. Yeah, I really I've really had been to say and she she thought

she had she had I thought she, she had I said, oh, okay, if you think that I'm

trying to get to get you to feel but I absolutely that you understand.

It has to have nothing to have gone to so we're we're having

we're being finished, we're really we're really we're really

you have communicated because you know, you know, you've marked your intention. Yeah, yeah, it's that, and when she said, Bravo, you have almost gained.

There's one of the texto that's that, I said, oh, okay, no, not due to do. But it's tough because, you know, I've got to more

more my story, and it's a long history, and there's been there's a lot and there's in my generation,

and she, and she, and it's there's a, non-sense total, you know, they're all right, you know, they're going to be there's a lot, and then we're, and we're doing

we're doing cool in France, because there's, there's a, there's a, you know, it's an word that, you know, it's always, you know, a shock of the value, it's sure, yeah.

Choke of value, like, a lot, but at a lot of level, and then, how do you do you do for guard a super good relation, but to be able to have a conversation

there's, but, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I'm not judged, I think. I understand what they've done. I understand what it's the fact. He's that they've done, and why we're

doing what, and what's been, I said, hey, we're going to have been in France, I've seen, seen, the evolution, you know, I've seen, like, a few, the newfi, there, they're, like, they're coming up, because he's solette, and droll, our accent, and I'm arriving in France after several tourn to

to do the music, the rap, there, they've been to listen, and they're paying, and he essay to talk, they're, and he try to talk like because he thought it cool

and not really not in a way of, I'm not because it's droll and you know

because it's cool. Oh yeah we're we're doing cool and that so that's

a cause these little in English not with their accent French or that it's a

little revolution in rap in France that the Belgies also are done

the Belge who are the Belge that's a revanched of the people that was not cool it was nice

I've lived in it's a commenter she said a commenter she said there's a like these words in English it's not bad

it's not it's where it you know what it's what's what it's what it's not it's not it's not it's not

it's not it's not to understand to understand to understand you know you're never the songs

that I'm I'm like the rap of New York you know because Because you've got You don't want to...

And you know, you're not going to... But, you know, it's so. But, you know, it's that also. When we have... You know, when we've thought,

when we've thought, I've said to my gang, there's interviews, I've done really very much. I don't want to have an interview with a series of

questions. I want to be that person that's been and that's not the judge not. I want to

understand. But for to understand, I can't I'm not I'm not, because it says that's

I'm already an a priori with my questions, I think, I think, if we're going to have a choice, you have to face it, you know, you have to let's a liberty, and there's not a pre-interview, there's not, so. So, it's like what the person has we said, and it's like we can

understand, without abstinely, it's, ah, you're sorry, that we've done, and it's for that the people, for that the people can't, you're going to, it's not, and it's not, that we're going to find, but when we're just to be on the defensive, to say,

I'm not sure, I'm not sure. Not to not want to understand. It's... It's that that I felt that... Oh, my God, that my

mother would... That I'm... You know, I'm doing, we'll be having, you know, the relationship

that we have. But you have been able to make some there on there. Yeah,

I'm doing, I've made, there, there, it's not, it's not to understand what's

to be doing to be going to be able to and it's because there was a firm

or a form of a repri It's not, it's not It's not that's not Our relation. It's always It's always

It's a good It's a bit Absolutely Absolutely I'm sorry I'm not I'm sure to I'm sure

Exactly, that It's not That's not That's not I'm trying to They're going In English It's an history

It's their history You're You're probably It'll be To be It's the But it's the It's the story

Yeah What's the question that I've chosen. Ah. And, you know, spontaneously, I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm really, you know, in a dose of love, you know, there's people that you know, there's a little dose.

I'm an impression that I'm a gross dose. I have a good good to live, all to two, so, so, it would be potentially fusional, you, I don't, you know, I don't, the definition exact, of a relationship. But it's a bit like if you have two circles and the intersection, there are the couple, it's more pretty.

They have each one. You have, you have to look, the intersection, you'd want grand. But there, it's not necessarily that Mabond has the same space, the need of the same space, or it's a a relation that you're in a lot, it's, it's evolved a lot.

When you're the children, it's, it's the grand defy, the space, that, that one and one and the other view, it's really not the

same the same in the end in the end the same I'm in my way, he's

maybe more little and then you know, so that's grosser we're choosing that's

that the great-and- that's you're comfortable so you like to get to to be in

vacants I imagine to have the same or air I'm I'm

I'd I'd all I'd all all, and sometimes especially

the thing, we're going to family, you know, we're going to, I'm going to, like, like, I'll like, I'll have, like, I'll have do say, well, he's on

going to say, it's sure that's been my dream, to say, vote on the park, amen to him, to get to the restaurant, you'll be there

to get to my, my, to be able to be thinking to me a few minutes. I'm, I'm but you're, but you're

to be, to see, to see, to see, 20 minutes in the time, the 20 minutes,

that's in the I'm not able to I'm not going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to but I'm going to

but I'm sure she's able to I'm able to to understand to come up she's able to she's able to she's like she

with my wife or me alone and she'll be at her but yeah I'm I'm always

the time always the village even that at the couple you know when we're you know

when we're it's also amourous the parentality and even the soup in family let's say

with the my mom, my first father, I'd do that a day on we're doing to be able to

not a place. You know, I'm in perspective, I'm in perspective, I'm at 16 years

I'm in a second, I'm in two, three, four, I'm, I'm in two, five,

I'm in a couple of apartments, the, the, the, part of course, that's,

it's a pretty, it's a past that, when I'm that, that's the standard,

and that I know, and that's, like, okay, you want, you know, that we're

that all the time, that we're always, there's people there's people who know, there's,

you know, the people, it's not that, it's even the person the person the person the

probably that I've met that's, so we've made a genre of two, but, you know, she,

she's not, she's impossible. One day, a week, there's a little effort, but finally she'll like,

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she'd be,

it's very, the, yeah, the, Yeah, the junction of the two spheres, there's a

there's a great clash. But, now you're others, you're not in an television television on 24 hours

to 24, big brother. There, I was really, I've been my life, with all the symbols possible

temporal. You know, we'd be the true, we'd be able to be able to be able to be able to

even, even that, I'm not your life to be your life, that? I've reconstruct,

yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yes, is it You're dured to convince to make a big brother? Yes, because

the life in the time that I was in trying to pass several tempete at several levels. I was in

rupture with my ex in this time that. The mare to my father had a rupture

also very difficult and, I had to get a house, but finally the reason for I

had this house that, my, my, my, my, my,

my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my,

the, the the children of the woman who had the chum to elise he was

he was able so you know to get to get a house, it's like a great

charge, a great gestion mental. The crisis of the mother to

that wants that that exists we're going to be in mediation my ex who wants

that she wants that I think he's she has that my son that my

perturbed in all and he will demenage and then he will go to be able to get to turn for X number of time to play a year.

I'm like, oh, shit, okay, it's like to try it's like to make, to manigance, to mounte to get to get

he'll say, he'll say, he'll be, he'll be there like, I'm listening to not too, we can't be

we can't even so, so, so, so I'm not not quite, I'm not able to get to the game, who said,

more joy than that and I'm in a moment of the life that's a

big a big a big a lot of to do you know, to go to I think,

I think you think you have to your life should be on an equilibrium, a neutrality

not in a traverse of a time. Is that you have like a

form of a culpability at certain moment? Foul and

and at the through all all I'm I'm put with my

ex but frere-frey and at the You feel your your

and you're so you're you're telling you're telling because I'm an aloe and I'm in just before

to start just before to get back there it's not right that I'm never and that I'm you know

you're you're gonna you're reset completely the fact of it's very very isolated we're

very isolated we're in pandemic you're you're you're you're you're that's what I'm

it's not the same it's not the The phenotype of these people so place to polarize there's like

a kind of construction that's fascinating but I'm no different in the same world there's like

an history of love that I tried to to be to be to be to be

it's it's that in the game yeah yeah you

you're you're you're you're you're you and you're

and it you're it's like it's like it's but in my construction

social it's an element super important for me not that I'd be able to I'm trying to but I'm there's just

there you know there and there in my construction social it really really really

really I'm feeling that I'm sure I've had a life all completely there

and that it's potentially potentially filmed and then we can we can't

we can't catch the close if that you can't can't

this relationship. The people The production you said that. Yeah, the age that you can't with.

Yeah, because we're saying, you know, if we could keep, you know, to get that like, you know,

it's just just, just, just, just, in the chamber of the person,

yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's so. So, then, so,

so, so, my son, it's, never really that I'm even not really that I'm

, you know, he'd he'd, he'd, he'd, it's, I don't know I don't know.

The sort of you've been violent? Mm-hmm. I'm, I was in the culpability

like the fact I was in the denies, I'd even put up I'm like, we're well, you

know, yeah, and I said to continue to my relation, and I'm too crotch

in all that and it and it had to it's, and it had been how,

it's been, it's been, it's, it's official, and, we're like let's like to because the

real life you're notrapped I'm I'm sorry but I'm really too I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm a kind of a year after I'm I had a business with that

I had really really we've been we're really really I'm really I'm really

I'm I'm would be able to I'm would be that all the people important in

my life rest. But if you're that ask you ask you can imagine that

I'm going to you know if you do you do you do you do you no,

no, I don't, you know, so I'm in mode not to not renounce I'm

you know, you know, you know, to be to be to be able we're, we're,

we're like and then finally, we're we're in on chomining when

when when we see review, well, it's a little, you know, we're trying to see, and we're trying to see, it's ridiculous, you know, for the day of the day, and the, on the end of the night, and then, and then,

and then, finally, Big Brother, has been important in your life. You've been to have accepted that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, yeah, I, yeah, I, I'm, that we're, that we're, that we're, that's, maybe, and that's, like, an, you know, a story more, like, In the sense, we'd have not

had not been Phase 1 and Phase 2. Yeah. Not the necessity of Phase 1 Phase 2 because there would have not

had not been to micro-climate, you know, I'd be a little, but when we were doing it, we'd have to

jazooier, and when we to jazooier plus, I said, hey, this person, that,

is really on Malong, Gordone. We're really on the frequencies that I never, I think,

attained with someone. my feeling, it's, it's like, the little little people,

it's like, the little it's like, it's like, it's, it's, we're still, we're in the

grand struggle of the life of parentality, we're still able to be talking to be on this famous frequency

that, which I think is the base of our relation, that should, you know, when you

when you're not when you're not, you're not, you know, you're not, you know, you're in

a new of a relations, it's a moment when when the real things, the real

questions and the real issues are going to be not the same frequency, it's not you can't. Yeah, you

have not to understand to understand so that's but it but that's the tool supreme,

you know, in a cause of that, I'm an context, not big brother, in a world of

show business, we're we're in the whole process, I'm sure we're trying that's not

the same story, but I'm the odds to have been together, she's, she had been having a lot of, she said,

like, thank you, like, thank you, like, there's, there's, there's,

there's, there's, there's a, no, whatever, what, you're, you're,

like, in your , there was, there, there's, there, there's,

I think, I was, I felt, more, I was, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, She said, she was, she was trying to, she said, oh, yeah, you feel to see that? Well, yeah, I'm, you know, I'm... To see, I'm...

At how many guys, you'd say, on a super-frequance, at the moment where I was, what I thought was the sole, and not be alone, to be alone, to be able to be. Is it something to partage, your life, like, you know, Lisearn is really a pioneer, in Quebec, to, when you're

to start to watch his life, to make it and you're in part, is it in fact, is that it

was that you did say, there was a question, there was a thing, what had been, what had

been, no, I'm just that, it's like a new new channel, that,

you know, I'm someone, I was a total of the cause I had the occasion

to open something, I'm a I'm sure, I'm in the same it's like if the

end of a general to do you know, a channel where you can have a fun and

to express and have an discussion with the connection really more intense

than the superflu the image that the people think that in the show

business I think in the I'm interesting there when you when you

don't on on and when you look that this

child, and I'm like, this child will have access to a new content that I'm shocked in the history of Lizand,

we're going to on the time, and I'm doing the sense where I'm trying to that's the things that's it's a

at all the that's, that my my mother or that I said, hey, but I'm

very bad that's, she's ran there's been there in she's getting there because she she's not

that she's, that she's shocked, our, our, our, our, our

that's a child that one will have one will have, I'm super shocked if it's, it's kind of fucking, that's, it's, it's,

it's a bad, it's a matter, but, you know, if she's, it's, it's, it's, it's, on the internet,

yeah, that's, what's what I'm, that, that's, a, that's, I'm not,

to be able, to me to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, even if it's,

I'm, I'm done, connected, I'm, I'm doing, I'm, It's like it's like it You've got to

You've got to You've got to You've got to She's Well, she She has been much changed The way

she's It's not It's It's been It's really There's really There's There's never

Ending They've ever People have never Personnel, The fashion That's the It's like, There's

There's There's some There's There's There's Inuitelement It's, in many time It's

It's what it It's been Aftain good things. I don't know where I'm where I'm there

this is tricky because it's revolutionary sexual absolutely absolutely and the portion vulgar

that my mother had had been she had served to have something everything

all that everything that's never perfect and it's you know it's just focusing

on what it's what has been what you have been so at final

I'm the admiration the ingredient principal, or almost of the couple. I have

of the admiration for this person, it's their intelligence, it's a approach, it's a

fogg, their nothing at at foot at a moment where it's a servie. So,

it's like I'm saying that's a part of that I have to I'm that I'm

really that's that much. You're you're trying to say to say where it's

that is the comprehension, because, you know, it's it's, it's, it's , it's been, it's a lot, but it's a survee also, it's a service,

but, however, , however, but in the time, I think, there's a lot, it's, there's been a, there, there's been a, but there,

everyone is becoming mama, and, like, he was a vulgar, for it's not necessarily an tool that we've got a business, now,

now, now that's it's evolved, absolutely. Yeah, and, and in the same it has,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, this podcast because we learn some we're doing

that's not it's really it's really a revolution there's there's a thing that's some people

that's even people, you know, you didn't know that they were still with that it's got

it's got to some sort of the solitude and that's the tools to the detress

solitude yeah all all right all you know you're extraordinary they're to be extraordinary

yeah it's extraordinary two, the two, they were driving by something that I, I'm connected less,

it's so, it's, it's, it's kind of the bonn revolted. Revolte against,

maybe, their parents, I don't know, there's a there's something, we're trying, the adolescent, you know,

the adolescent, you know, who, who, go, the contrary, the apple, I,

like, I'm going to go to, I'm going to more more than you do that your apple

he will be able to say, the revolt face to the parents, there's a there's a

there's a that I'm that's the contrary to that I've been used. You know, yeah,

yeah, it's a shocker, I'm shocked, I'm when you're when you're saying,

it's, you're, I'm done three. I'm braus, I'm don't know, so, you're just, there,

there's just a question to the you can't there, you can't you're there,

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you can't make three, you know, and you're trying one. Ah, that's excuse, yes, we, we're saying, we're saying, and we're, we're, we're doing.

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Claude is there, yeah. We can cut the butt where I'm thinking, but it's really that I'm thinking. But no, we're not, we're not going to

to do you're thinking. Okay, okay, okay. The people who are, it's a little moment zen. Who are you also? Yeah,

yeah, but I'm, it's more long. I'd say, at every time, I'd say I'd never my examines

because I'd not the time. Or I'd had not seen the three in the last page. I'd

could I'd not viewed. Okay. You know, you're a little deficit of attention, maybe. Oh, yeah, but... Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, but

yeah, maybe. We're not about it's time to demystify. I mean, I know, I know, I know, I see what what's what he works and what's not. Yeah, yeah, it's... You know, sometimes, at the school, it's more practical, because they're going to test more of time, just to, for a example.

Yeah, but, I've seen my son, I've had used that, I, you know, I'm... I've had used to, I'm... No, but it's brilliant, you, because... It's easy, you. Yeah, but it's because it's just because of to have more

to have a time to have a time. You know, you know, you know, I think, I don't know

to say, but it's like 30 percent more in the time. In the comfort, again, that we want to

have been absolutely, like I'm like I'm not used, but I'm not in the life, it's a

seems super cliche, I'm not I'm not not much not much, I'm not in all the

other aspects, yeah, you know, you've been that's that you, it's so that you're

that's sure that's not so it's good to have given more to have done to have to be able to

get to be in this fashion I don't know for the question, I'm at the time to finish this examines.

But I'm also. But you're that's the main ingredient principal of my success, to have been

to create a beque because I have been more of time. I'm sure that it makes up

appreciate more the because in the school you have not the choice to have this

processous obligatory the you can you can't you can that that's that

that's that I hate of the But it's for that, you know, as they're all the same exam, it would be a time

also to not have the time to finish because you're a condition that's a time, you'll be correct.

I think that for the school, that's really a parkour similar for for all the you can't

have time of becky, at a part to say, I've got the time to finish my examines.

But if it's that's that has that you've ayeed the school, and that

all your life, the fact that you have been good, by you you're because

the school you're associate to the school, yeah, but it's not everyone who's

all over here when you know when you're there's a question of, but when it's your ingredient and the

main to the idea to you know, I think you know that you know, you know, that you know,

that's you know, that's because you're a condition that's, at the level of

at least, you know, you know, you know, the piece is to not say to not say, yeah,

I'm just more rapid, plus poche. But it's like, it's like the genus of my success. It's that, I understand what you're saying.

It's philosophical. It's like, what's what we're doing? Well, I've seen the difference when she had when she had after a diagnostic

and I've seen someone's to be anewing after. But I also I've seen that. It's the same affair,

the tools, someone who likes that's all the people? But is she've had been to be the maybe not.

But is she had to be more adequate, yes. Well, I'd

with that in the case that, because it's in line direct with you, have you

have you have to your life? Yeah, what it could do you see,

I'm in a lot, with a moment where you want to be more in the

fire of that, the action, the, you know, I'll do with my last

album, I'm the guy who wants to be able to get to get in body surf

on a full and be being completely drunk in doing doing it it's very

I'm with this new vibe that I'm got to it would be able

that I could be able to take a course, a formation,

to want to not get to get to the guy revolted all the time when

the time to learn that's that in reaction potentially with the school and the fact that I'm,

you know, it's chien, not to be able to finish their examines at each time. It's like, the form

of pedagogy that the school offered, it would be not to come in your mode of apprenticeship. It would

not say that you can't learn, it's your model of but there I'm associate to the

modes of the apprentis automatically so, so, so there there's, there's,

there, and there, I'm, there, I arrive with a new DeFi, I don't know, when this podcast

that's sour, it's, it will start the 14th of April, the new that I accepted something. 14th of April, well, he will start after, yeah. Well, we've proposed a role in a comedy musical, a gross comedy musical,

and I'm, okay, it's like, okay, it's like, the first role, you know, and I'm like, I've already done a little bit of acting. I, I consider not that I acted,

I, I consider that I'd say, in my person, and it's a carder, de times, more than other, but I'm, not

I'm not I'm not, I'm never trying the technique I'm not like you know I'm not

I'm doing a technique, I'm going to know that, uh, the dance, I'm always the guy that's like to be like to

see how much because I wanted to dance and I thought it because I'm too, in a bar

let's be able to let's be able to put a bar, let's be there's be able to do this spectacle, there's

because I'm I'm in front of people and you're doing it's something like it's like something like

it's like a thing that's but I'm this great mix feeling there like but you know these courses

of dance techniques of chant you're there all that all that all that in accepting

that I'm obliging to learn to learn to in all these spheres there

and then I'm I'm always been reticent at cause probably of what I I've been

in the secondar I associate me form the course to make give to give to

I'm in going to I'm in going to be this opportunity that for finally

have the good to be changing your perception because in the time

you know you know you know I'm a bit I'm a bit choice if it's We don't know. We don't know. It's not all the time. It will be served.

But, now, you're sure. It's adapted to your own your own your business, I imagine. And it's very, very comfortable, because I'm going to be, there's like an objective super concrete. It will serve directly. It's going to serve on the show, and I'll have the evolution on the champ, and I'm going to have the result of that, and I'm going to be paid for. It's extraordinary.

I've really said, yes, because it's a card in my person, in the show business, it can be very interesting. It's an great opportunity. so, particularly, particularly for that. And why

we're approached for a comedy musical? Because he was trying the mystery. No,

but it's right, you know, he'd he'd they'd I think they they've been

for more something, that I that I'm that I'm mysterious. It's sues

that mystery. But again, that's, you know, sometimes it's a look, that you

that's, by default. And you you've said, yes, but that, but that, I think,

that, I've, you know, there's the The infant, I had the good to part of a current like I'm

going to be in a camp in a camp in a way of my there's really something, the child he

wanted to and then a little, it's like, it's like, it's a thing interesting,

don't, um, and change your vision, what I'm that's that yeah, because I

change the vision of the apprenticeship, I think it will make a different difference.

Oh, yeah, you know, you know, you know, because the apprenticeship is a

There's a lot of things different. It's so it's really important. I think it's to learn of your life. It's a new your own to the

curiosity. You see, I regard Janet Bertrand. It's a woman who has learned a whole life. You know,

she's still that's like, it's like she, when she can't have to be a show, but she's,

but Janet, we have all you've all right, but no. And I think that's beautiful

this. Yeah, it's just that I'm I've got I've been I've been very

that's not it was in a car It's not not that's not it's not that's not that's not

that's so that's that's very important but that's a crisis of the quarantine

yeah rebel and yeah oh yeah you've you've had a crisis a car

chate clode well yeah it's like I'm new papa,

in the same time so what's what you have in this crisis

that's the age or it's there there of reset, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you're a douche bag, in the phone, and, you know, I'm, or I'm, you're,

someone of, you know, we're doing, you know, we're doing, you know, I'd have to be in a cause? No, I, I, I'm, too, I'm doing, too, but I'm still, to put, but, I'm, but, so, it's a bit of them, it's, it's, but it's, it's, sometimes, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not, that I'm I'm going to I'm going to to shake it to

what? It's that's yeah, yeah, exactly when I'm saying,

when I'm saying I'm my son my son's my wife's really to tryper around to the auto

so much. It's so it's so that while the auto that's that's

that's that's he tripe the auto, I'm that's a idea. My blonde, I'm, you're, it's not, you're

live also in this crisis that in the quarantine? To live to say

what I'm in the fact I'm to have to do it. There's, there was there's

I'm going to new summit because all what I've always wanted to do you have like

made. Ah, but that's it's turdicant also. Yeah, and you

look at the great discourse of this world that the people who have the most

it's because they've always to visit other summaries but you know at what you have to go and you're going to escalate the

summer, I had like on view to be on my little summit my summit that I had to be chill

and I'm with a person who is absolutely in trying to gravier these summates and and then I'm okay

and I'm correct if I'm not trying to do that or what's what I would like new new subjects

it's there also it's there also it does the go of rechecking a bit the base

because I don't know if you have a move to, you're going to get in movement. Now, yes,

but I had only to be to be able to be able to be able to be parents. I'm even I mean

said it like two years, is it correct if we make a statute

retreted just for my mental and to be at the a

house, retreted it, it's it's really really because I

have to support the attents of what is my work, it's a

my crisis of the quarantine. And then you have started a album, that creates some people that are there

people who are there, is that you feel, no? The first album, I was

very, I want to show they that it's completely different, I'm only,

and that's not just the guy who realise the music or who did the

group of music. It's really good timeing in the history of the music, it's been

it's been, and when it's good work super well, we have some that's the great result of, if we're

doing a second album, we're like a little bit more in the baggage of the attention. And when you,

you know, when you're more dissu or, you know, you're more challenged, and in a third album,

that, really not. It's not. Completely not in the time, and I've got to be

many pleasure to do, my, my, I, I think, I, I think, it's really

good. And if I see I think I think it's a really good, there's people who

know that, who know this, who can't be to do you know what, you know, your last your last

your little, the pochette, it's you little, it's like your little,

your little, that you know that's, I can't not, I'm not until I'm

until I'm know, because I'm know, on the tattoo for those who who you're

not, you're carim tattooed, so I'm imagine, it's you that's it's

photo. It's the interpreter tattooer's the interpreter, that's the tattooer that's the

most nervous of her life. You don't. You don't, you know, it's a moment where he had to be

to us so it's a very, I don't know, I've decided to do that on my album,

I was very in communion with Karim in the sense who is someone who someone who

it's a man can't much to make to do moments extraordinary of my life of

creator and it it's been influenced you know we're not we're we're

we're making a style of music there's a sound a sound a very signed uh

uh on I've influenced that I'm influenced that I'm influenced that I'm influenced that I'm

with my third album and I can really say I can't say there there's like

Yeah, and that's a idea that's an idea that I had envoyed, I've said in in plenty of interview, but it's an idea that I've been in the moment

where I, you know, I've tried to to go, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, and it's,

and it's, and it's, and it's, not that you, it's not, but, try, to,

to connect, yeah, and, and this, this, this, idea, of the music,

I, I don't, I've got, I, I've done, the beat, the beat, of our featuring

that we've never made. And I said, hey, it's good this music that I'm going to have

never made in featuring I'm doing I'm going to do you record. In fact, I would

open the sessions of the old discodua or literally between the take we're

and it was an presence realist in the super good micro super

super good speaker you're really in trying to think she's she's

she's about to talk to you You know, put a point out of, you know, there's a glitch temporal

total. So I'm like written that in the question that in the kind of glitch that,

it's extraordinary. Experience extraordinary that I wanted me infligue, I wanted to live that it was

part of the things that I had to say, that I wanted to that I wanted that's on

you've left on you? A aspect of the confidence, the fierty, of this foug musical

there a grand questionement of the existence also in the circumstances where I

I'm wondering often you're well, you do you can't you, we're too,

we're retient the the way of a state of a person in a

life or the end or the moment where he was the most

glorious and you and then do you want because in fact it's your perception

what you know what you that's that's like it's like it's change to my

course in the life what I'm what I see often in the times

it's super troubling sometimes it's super positive sometimes it's in a

in a moment extraordinarily joyue sometimes super sad I'm

I try to I'm trying what the it's what the life after that's what what's what it's like that

it's very, very mysterious for me one of my more fear also I can't not believe

that I can't I'll let my people for always but it's normal because

you're a guy of a country yeah and I live for me

to be me occuping of people I'm I'm occupied to my blonde,

I'm to be my own I'm in I'm going to I'm in it's not quite I'm in fact

I'm in my sense I'm going to you're going to you're talking to learn to yeah, I'm doing

I'm sorry no, no, no, but now it's like it's like something

for you're for you but it's that's that's it's always it's always it's always

it's always sorty it's like yeah, it's for it's for me that I'm 100%

You're having to have your sphere Yeah But I'm in a Sacri Common, Sacr Tribu Yeah, it's

It's not It's been And then it's Yeah, yeah And then You know The comedy musical It's,

We're all We're creating a A world, We're creating a Connection for And I'm I'm still I'm in the sense

Where I'm That's not I'm not That's just It's just It's just know what's going to be, but you'll say when we're going to listen to what you're

doing to do, we'll hear what you're saying. But it's sure that you've never named that. It's really, I've never named. No, you've never named. It's a very intriguing on your project. We'd say, that I'd have not, I'd be you know, but that's, you know, it's too long.

But that's, it's like a comedy musical that comes, something that's, something we know, or something that's a project? It's a film, it's Greece. Oh, it's Greece? Oh, okay, so, okay, you've been, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, it's, dance for

real, yeah. And then I remit the film in perspective I'm going to finally, I'm going to

I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to and I'm not there's a very blehable there's a It's not

it's not these great moves to dance it's even not the songs with, who demand

the skills time that but it's it's to be incarnate as it can't

you know to be for it for the vocalment and physically and it's like

that it It's exciting, that. It's really... It's super. But, you know, in your crisis of the quarantine that you've lived, we're saying that's, maybe a summit also? Well, there, it's me, yeah, yeah, it's a new summit, and it's

it, it's, it's, it's that, it's, it's... It's gonna it, it's, that, it's it, you, it's, it, it's, a, you know, it's, it yeah, it's a lot, to have your own own territory.

It's a lot, and it's a facility to partage your territory. Yeah, and it's, and it's I'd have to have to be in place, probably my blonde for her own, and even in time as a mother,

a parent, you know, I'm a place, in a sense of it, it's a lot of, when I get d'all to do it, but I'm not at the bazaar. You know, I'd have not could think that to

before to listen the series. At cause that you're a face of mysterious. At cause that's mysterious. No, but this part,

so, although tributes, perhaps because of the exterior, you've been clear someone of more solitaire. It's a

face. It's a loo, he has like of a lull solitaire. Yeah, you have a

look more solitaire when you know when you know, when you know, I'm doing that, you'd be

a lot of my chum, at Mario. Mario, he is present in the house, he will be

to get a and he and the people, when he came to come in my when the

when they were coming to he were even, even when we even when you even when you had been

my I was the girl, I thought, but I thought, I'd have been like that, I'll have changed, I'd have been, I'd go, he'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll he fare to have, me, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, there, you know, I'm not, you know, she, she, she doesn't, you know, that's, because he's, because he's serious, I see, I'm, it's a, it's a... It's a...

More, like, he, he, he regards, the newvel international in his own, you, you know, but it's not so, but... There's a face of that, but, it's not so, but, it's not that, you know, you're... gradually, I have been a great-papa, because it's

in plus that my sort of model being a grandpapa and then it's Claude, the grandpapa and I'm like I'm

deghese in old, and I'm like hot to be great-papa and I'm a role incredible,

I'm the The mayor of the second time, grandmaman and then yeah, yeah,

yeah, you know, the mamie, mamie, yeah, the, I'm, I'm,

there's many there's many there's many chance, there's there's chance to have been a

great friend. But it's extraordinary. Nive Ores and Coffey Yeah, well you'll I'm only

give me on four of this one. Okay. Now ERA is not to get around to getroaches the four

first. You can be garroche what you want. Eros, it's your zone, is that?

There are there who are that's stressed in the game with Eros and you know the question of

I, I think I've, I'm, I'm a retienne, I'm a little

cut executionist I don't I don't know what. Okay, but you'll have Are there, they're like this. Is it a

taboo in your family? Maybe I should have Do you know, I'm sure, of how much your way your

sexuality has tell to be able to do you know, no, I'm going to respond to you. Well, you know, you're trying to docile, right? Okay, perfect. No, it's It depends

I thought that I said I don't know I know I'm trying to you know I'll choose one of this yeah

to say that's it's good you're doing to go to go to you know I'm a little I'm okay

I just I just I'm gonna start the first first time first first

first yeah you know I'm to say I'm with the Oh,

Yeah. That's too deep. That's interesting. In my family, yeah, we'll go ahead with that. Preferer you

Seidur or to be seduire? It's not a response clear, I've always, I never How,

I'm not I'm trying to that. Me, to be seduing because it's a signal

clear that the person tripe on me. try to me sedu and it's the thing that's the thing

my name the first so I'm always to try that I'm there, seduies if you

so so it's rarely my mom that's never me that's never me

you're receptive to sedu I'm I'm I think in the story of my

life and it's not not all the time but I'm I'm I'm

I'm consider like a rap that in the other. I'll try to seduising. I'll refine my rapids,

for that, at least, you know, at the final, it's, they're they're they're going to be far chasse,

I think. He had been my, my line directress, of the seduction, in general. Is it an insicurisant

for us, in a coup? Okay, so. So, you're not, so. So,

to have to be to be to try to be in a position seduizing but

passive you know and the person that person who will want to be sure

that's very clear that this person that me desire she she's

she's she'd do you do it is is that you choose

more than you choose yeah yeah so so you adapt

But, well, I'm adapt in the sense In the sense that's not you That's not you That's not You're doing, it's

If the person You've chosen, it's chosen, It's gonna It's gonna Yeah, But then after, I can, you

I can decide that's not Not a You know, I don't to respond to the attack. But,

but you But you're I'm this approach Yeah Because it's It's

It's has been a great question And I know how it it will sonn't.

And with Lisein I've used this conversation that's just, because I've had this it's not that's not that,

but we're in common what's the one of the most important the more ingredient of the other

person tripe on the other person tripe on very, it's, it's just it's totally

evident that I'm tripe that it wasn't it's not subtle, it was even

it's said it's a running gag, but that it's a I love particularly I don't know

I'd say I'd be exactly what I think I'd be super be able to the type what you think

to be the type what you think to be on the course of the time so it's not a great it's not a but you

think that it's a but that's so it's so easy evident is it is insurgicic

for the other when we're sensible to the seduction that comes

from the exterior? Yes. Yes, because there's there's there's

there's in the parages that will try to try that because it's a

thing that's it's, but there may be a barrier there, we're

in a world where we put there on on there

on there. I've had a a bunch of my view where

I'm saying that I have really the difficulty to explain why it's a good idea

that we're decided that it's like that. I can feel a jealousy. We can it can

it can it, we can have not been to exist and the security, the,

the confidence in so, you know, there's plenty of things that nourise the contrary

of the jealousy, I think there There's a there's a lot of the

setup that we have made in the society that really the barrier

the it's it's it's when I'm when I put in a cup

standard I'm not bad because you're not always been in a

court standard no it's flexible it's flexible. There

there was a certain it it was really the contrary and there's

I live in a world where it's really very, very, this standard that we're talking, you know, the exclusivity,

in fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so. It's, it's a, I mean, like,

not known, or pretty, not in this. That's, you've been jealous? What we call,

no, the papillon inversed. You know, when you tripe on someone or something

does something does that, this feeling that indescriptive, the amoe, the papillon, we're, We know

of the papon but the papon inversed is this this kind of of an to get into to make

to make you have used that with the end? Well, it's not a reproach but in this

fashion that to live the love there's just the other person and that the desire to just

to be oriented to a person and that all the rest not be not be said because it does it

not be viku or Even if he's Pancet, it does not be Nommed Yeah, and then in my

carding to that I'm a papion inverse I'm a person I'm going to I'm overce than than the papon in person

and I'm trying to search a sense to what's what we're with that I'm I'm going to

in the nature I'm sure my son my son to be the first to be

a certain time of a year I'm to be I'm being I'm

I'm I'm I'll I don't I don't I don't I don't So there's like a part

Forcement, there's like a part of your relation that's the intense of my life, fusional of my life, that's not that

I'm a few that's not that's it's not it's not that's not that's it's been part of us

so. In therapy it's like very, very long before they're there's there's not

there's not able to respond to that. And I don't want want to have been in a couple open,

it's not that. For efface, the papillon inversed, you have to try to try to that make a sense, that's a

what's going to be in the end up, without, in the fact, it's, it's that, it's,

that's, it's, it's, if you, if you, if you, start, your relation,

to, with these basic, that's not blestant to noming these things, you know, you're to be

to be habitued, not to be able to to be to just, to be cultivated the... And that's

what you say, what you say, it's a difficult because it's not that's not

that's not to be in to do that not. No, that's that, I'm not,

I'm not, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

you know, when you talk with with people, there's, there's that, that's,

that's, he's, that's, but it's, but it can, it's, it's,

it's, the , you, the, the, the, part to assume, because I'm, what I'm

in the relationship, by the relationship, it's it's a lot of that's not really to be with the card. It's a lot of

to do you have no choice to do. If you go to those other, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got

someone who had, that was, you know, someone who had, and that I'm going to try, and then I

receive, you know, the inverse, oh, the inverse. And I've adored. After that, I re-frey

I've re-frey several times. But it's my base it's a but after I'm

I'm choosing also in this world, okay. But your kind of in the other sense.

He's in the other sense. It's that you've seen when you're there was

something there was maybe that could be sure that I didn't so much

that I was I had more I had more a talent to be chosen. And

deal with what we have. Yeah, it's interesting but you adapt but you're more than you think more I think

I'm sure you're not to not choose necessarily you're not you're adapt to you know but

but you know by the discussion on the couple and what's what we think what we

think we're saying it's embattant that because the authenticity in the

fact that we're in making it's we're in it's it's good it's

it's bad it's to have a something for so. Yes. And then it becomes the

garden secret, how we're it's not it's, it's not, because the other person

can't not be able to get to be when you when you make, when you get a

question, I'm just, you know, there's there, there's like there,

there's like, there's like that I'm saying, is that when it's when it when it's when it's

when it's it's not a manse, I don't, I don't, there, there, there,

there, there, I can explain all the rest more, you know, the sense of the sense of the sense of the

world. But what's what's he in your mind? Is it a a manse if it's a

monsoon? It's a question, but it's a abstraction in the sense that you know not.

It's sure that's the other says, you know, it's a thing I'm not sure I've been used to

say, I'm thinking to say you're thinking to it's an reflex in the nature it's like to do

to do not to do not do you have to do that. Check what it would have. Oh, yeah, no, I'd want to, well, but, oh, de la, a real desire, a real phantasm, a very, a very, you know, you'd have, in your life, it would, it would, it would, it would, it would,

it would, it, it would, it exist, it exists, in terms, what? You, it's, the papions inverse. It's a lot, it's super disagreeable, and it's done the go, you're going to, you're in current, you know, to, you know, to be, and I'll understand, but, you'll understand, but I'm, I'm,

I'm persuaded that we're sure if we're doing we're doing if we're doing at the base there's it's not

it's not, it's not but it's so we're not possible to it's impossible to no well it's because

for the other that's it's so it's too desagrable but it's because there's there's because there

but you you'd acceptry at the inverse there's there's that's that It's the same

base of chateau They're not So they're not So they're not So support it? Yes And then You'd support

Pue? I'm sorry In the set-up Actual There would There'd There'd always There'd always

But why you'd Go ahead Yeah Because the The portion You know, the Possible You know, the

The same The Shrine The Garden Secret We'll call it It's It's just It's

It's disappeared at the person, it exists, it's a co-exist, but, you know, I'm still someone who's because you're

fusional also, yeah, you know, I think that's your part of the social, also you

would be able to you're going to you're like that's the only thing does that yeah, it's like

it's like a bug with that, to have something that's you're like you're really community

to have something that's that's true that bug? Well, it's sure, but it's like if you

would say, I would have I'd want to to be in my volet community it's a part of that

but in the same time I'm in I'm in view that it's not I'm in that can't say that can get rid of the

it's so so, so that's I'm able to I'm able to I'm able to I'm I'm able to

look at where it's why it's if it's if it's that at the base you've not wanted

that we're not going to build you on the we're going to have to talk of that?

Because the nonsense is uncomfortable, for me, I, you know, in the couple, what you're in

it's kind of something like a little porcelain, it's like a carce easily, you know, the other

until the point the other can, see, at a moment of a time I'm talking,

he said, in a little bit in a relationship, it's a bit boateous what I

say, but you're , you know, the times, when we're I'm going to find confidence to someone.

Now, we're in a minute to work. You're going to get in a conjoining, you will not be in a colleague that's

because the pond between the two is like in fiscence. If you make a gross confidence there's on, it's too low, it's too low,

you can not make a pass a ruse on that. By the when the relationship is a carlone, when the

relation is intensified, it's more intimate, but it's like if you solidified your point relationship

between the two persons. But this genre of confidence, we'd say that it has a whole difficult to evaluate. Is that that's too low for the relationship

or not? I think it's not something that's not something like the other confidance. Because there's it's cool.

It's just. It's just it's just it in the head and in the heart of the other.

It's full. But, you know, along the people, it's so different. It's it's so long

of who the other person talk or the intention. I think there are there are more more more

more than the fact that we can't measure the weight of what it will be able to say. Some of the

truth is maybe not quite I've been that's been very markant and then what I'm what I'm

what I'm saying it's, we're that it's we're saying that's it's not, we're not, And there are a couple

times in my life where I've made, it's probably true, it's probably

but it's in my education, it's not that person had said, that the truth

that's not bad at Zah necessarily Bonadza I think it's my father who

said my father was like it's like the contrary of the

education that my mother did so it's like it's sure

the not the mal but it's sure something something Something, a quote that I

I'm saying, it's not, and it's not it's not saying that you know we can't do you have to make an abstraction. Yeah, without to be honest, we're talking about to do, you know, we're trying, we're, we're making, we're not, but it's not the monsoon

because, you know, in the fact, if you think something, by the way, no, no, no, but... All right, but... Yeah, but, let's tell, let's think, something in your thing, and you say, if you're

man, he will be going to things. What's what I'm in, you know, not just amourous

in our new life, there's a there's a maybe, maybe it's not the good moment,

perhaps it's a lot of a lot of, you know, it's that, you know, that's just that if I do

that, what's that what's going to be not the good moment, the good moment,

the good then at the time you say, well, then the fact that's in the sometimes it's

never, the be now, it's a it's a very much to know me

that's a quite to have a big reaction and that the pond because I'm probably that's

that's that's fine, we're that's of a point of a point of a

point of that's not a notretion I'm I'm in count I'm

quite sometimes I'm sometimes because I know to payter the point.

But now you're pre as I'm I'm about the I'm about the

measure the weight of what what's what's the going to pass on the point I'm

I'm going to you know no, no, no, but you're right, but there's sometimes

when you're when there's all the whole, there's there's like, there's a there's a

time, that's the that's a priority, we have to to pose to question there also.

Without not, I'm not for the mansone but I'm just like a,

a little to think to the empathy that, you know, when I'm when I

know, say a Mention just for that's Arrange the situation I'm

not able to I'm able I'm able to but it's a manse it's not it's a way it's a

way that's a way it's a monsoon in the case you know it's not it's true

it's the contrary that we're the truth the truth the truth the truth

it's the well it's certainly well there's certainly man there's there's

a bad in too is because the The reality, sometimes, it can be difficult.

Absolutely. Is that you ready to the question? The question opto-rezo? Or do you in 10

years? In 10 years? You have not the choice? I'm not to be to see.

I'm not the choice. There's not the choice? There are there's a different aspects.

I'm see a parent who is more who is more solicited in time to be to be

to be the people to have to you need to to be the and that it a kind of an sort of

an sort of space, the liberty to get I've done I've got to do you know in a minute

it's a sense I'm going constantly in a place, it's super cliché a young

friend who has been a condo to Mexico at a place, I didn't even not that

existed there it's like the water of the light of the air with eight nuance of blue

and then really there. After, you have to go at the school, these children, but, you know, I'm at the

most of the time, I'm there just in vacants, I'm going to, it's a part of your life? It's absolutely.

I'm doing grandpapa, my son, my son, my son, I'd be able to be very, very,

a time, I've got of the old, 10 and 12, 10 and 13 years, one,

a grand papa, a little in the, the endro paradig that I always fantasized sure that finally

it's past, and with the time a little more freestyle, more obliged to be parents

with your blonde visual, but now that's that. I think that she I'll discover

who who is going as the matter to, you know, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you're, a a little person,

with new base, and we, we're in trying to discover

it's what's what we do with that? And she'll she'll

have a she I'm going to gauge but, you know, it's just that, it's

quite, it's kind of we're it's like, I'm sure, I'm not, it's a so I'm

so, so, I think, I think, I think, I think I'm, I'm,

I'm, to have the more to attend possible to, and, that the show business

has more to attend. That, the genre of all, the sort of your person, your ego

and your, what the people are, it's a, that's, that's, that's, but,

yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to a sort of a feeling of retrait of that. I'd

do you want. Thank. But, but you're not so mysterious finally. I'm not,

no, but you're true, you know, you know, you're saying, you're, you're,

it's, it's, it's, it's a , it's a to be there present, authentic in what you

do? I think that your great characteristic, I have an impression. With a visage mysterious. That's going to your life.

It's a bit practice. It's a bit pay. We'll go and we're going to see in Greece. Thank you

so. Thank you. It's been really a pleasure to get really. So I've passed two days

with you in the two the last journey, and then we you know, you know, you know, it's some of the

thing that's so you know so. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. to all of

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