Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #155 - Kevins-Kyle | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

On l’a connu dans la télé-réalité Loft Story. Moi, je connais Kevin depuis plusieurs années. Il m’a déjà ouvert les portes de sa maison dans le cadre de la série Simplement vedette, où nous parlions d’homoparentalité. Depuis quelques semaines, on peut le voir dans la série Hors Réseau présentée sur Crave, où l’on découvre un homme intense, engagé, sensible, généreux et brillant. C’est à ce moment que j’ai eu le goût de l’inviter!Au cours de cet épisode, Kevin aborde entre autres l’intimidation qu’il a subie, son arrivée dans la grande ville, sa volonté d’être un coiffeur reconnu, son histoire d’amour et sa vie familiale.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:24:06 Cartes vertes00:53:27 Cartes jaunes01:27:57 Cartes rouges01:37:58 Cartes Éros01:48:52 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.

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all the whole people of all the whole of it's a lot of it's a

lot of people that's a morning, but just before there there were Trinombe Pierre

Blay and Paul Bourgeois, Bourgo, Bourgeois, Borgio, Borgio, who had had been in

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we've done to develop a project, me, I'm wondering to get what you're asking,

what you want, what you're having never thought you to do you want to it's very

of attention. And after a couple months, is made of this grand discussion, simply, Vedette. Simply Vodette, it's a series

documentary that made in light to each episode three corps related to a one theme. And a day I wanted

absolutely about about about about it. I thought that it's important to make sense in light,

to show to people who could not have an infant because they said in a couple

of same sex, but that had of the way to know

the parentality and I had been at the time, I'm 14 years of where I

got, I've met with his son with his conjoin who had had an

child a few months I'm I'm a man Kyle Kevin Kyle.

Kevin Kyle is a cooffer who is very very conue we

we've been to the show on that's on Kave

and really is you Orzone? Oh, resue, well, that's that,

excuse me, it's the, it's a , it's a , it's a real real that you're to be in,

and when I'm in the same, and when I'm seen, oh, but this guy, I'm, I'm,

this guy, I'm, it's a real guerier, and I've , and I read, look,

I, I said, what I'm, what I'm, to see, the Kevin that I've seen,

he's been, you know, over your question, he's, he said, yes, all right

so Kevin and Tonyo my own it's quite that made this interview that amour that

this, this, this, this, the want to try to find a solution for having to have the children,

because biologically it's not feasible in the conjoint of same sex, but that we can to have to be

to know the parentality. So I'm really content, I'm going to stop. We'll have to be able to give them to be in remit.

It's a 15 years. I'm able to talk about it and I'm able to be able to even not enumerary the word.

It's, even I'd say, a force now. It's, what you know, not we're in more far,

it's, it's really this slogan that. And it's it's been difficult, but, you know, I realized

also with the time, that it's more than its more than it. It was a lot of, you know, I had been able to

my own my own to the time, I've been to my 24 when I'm 24 when I'm when I'm

young, I'm don't know I'm not all the life and I see it and I'm put a baton an roo and

like, no, we've not made a baton of a round, we've done the force to continue

to advance and to grandir, and it's my more great force now I'm I'm with

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content today, because the last time that I've made an interview with him, it has been a

several years, I think it has 14, 15 years. So I'm really content to be

to be able Kevin Kyle. Hello, yeah, you're right 15 years. So it's 14 years.

It's a baby. We had done the the last last time. I think I'd

think I'd think I'm because I'm because I'm not, it's in the card of simply

Vedette that's used in the family, it's used to like the homo-parentality? Exactly,

we're talking to the homo paternity the gestation for otterui and we have done our own

our our first family in our family in your in your house that

that you can't be Kevin Skyl or Kevin Kyle? Kevin Kyle, that's Mueue.

Okay, Because, I'm at home, you know, I said, I said, it's not so. So, like, I'm going to ask you. So, the S is more. So, it's important to do. We'll be able to say. We're going.

Yeah, Kevin, we know. You're a coiffer who reign, who like, who aim the quote, I'd say, famous, how, how we'd decryry as a coiffer? I'd say, more the quote,

extravertie and flamboyant than, to, you know, to be honest, the code vedatoria, it never, intimidy, I'd say. Okay, because you, we've got known by Love Story.

Yeah, it's a lot of time. It's not everyone who's not everyone who's listening to who's the time. 20 years. It's been 20 years. What's the time? You know, what you

had to say to you were in a love? You were in the year of Kim Ross. It's Kim who had gained at that. You were infermied there. Yeah, completely. And there had not

a lot of. Rine. Rine to do. What's you're trying at this moment that? When I did love story, it was just to get to a

place to get to a village of 400 abitants, St. Edelman, the plan, my view is

to get to see a and see a really, but I'm always really a lot of

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, you're doing to work for and I'm going to

coiff, and I never thought, I've never to be a real real estate that,

for serving the artiste because I had some ideas in and I'm I wanted the

explore. It was really the idea of the departure. So it's like that we're doing you're in

the region after? Exactly. I'm staying in in the future. Kim, I'm emberger in Quebec a

little. She had some father, Patrick Zabey. And to that I've started to gain some money,

but I reparted to get to the bar, I started to be in going to be going to be going to

get to people, you know, and I'm having to But I did all do I did all do for I did all do for to make a

big up with a bad year to I said to say in the middle of because it was like if I'm not if I'm a guy who had

made a lot of a lot of time so it was even to play with for me for so what I'm doing to do you to come back to

to do you because it's really a milieu artistic but there's a milieu of course and you're a little bit of

people who have done to have done to many people who have done these people are they watch that They're like, well, it's like, well, we're like, well,

yes, it's a lot of world. So I've had not been the credibility of my proper milieu. So I said it's like it to try that it's a good 10 years, to reach a notoriety and a respect at the level of the cooferre

at Quebec. At that, it's not, so long time that's, that you've got to, that you've got to go to go to try to do it and always be always to always me to say,

I know, I see what I'm in the heart, and I see, why I'm going to do where I'm going to be so, so I'm used to be able to be able to, I've been able to be sorry. So we'd say that for me, to not be accepted in part-time,

it's what he's the fighter that I'm used, I'm used to bat against the opinion public all the time. But there, you're going to be in the way to want. So in the domain of the coiffel, you're not trying to bat. No, really not. I've gained a second place on the Worldial. I'm one of the sole Canadian to have the color trophy to be in the finalists.

In the last, I'm sorry, the first one of Canada. So it's been like my defy personal for a career. for arrival to the coiffure and you know, I said, I'm saying,

I'm doing, I'm still I'm still in the same time so I'm really really proud. Well, well,

and there, we've seen, it's been to get to get to be long time, on Rave on-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-

So, it's, these influencers who are, you're, you're, you're, you're left

to you in the same in the middle of the forest, but you're separate on a immense territory,

but when I'm in the middle of the forest, You can't be good. D kilometers. There are participated at that. And honestly,

when I've seen, primarily, it's those who have not to look at it, it's so much. It's really good.

I mean, when I saw the publicity, it mattered not time. And when I started to, I'd say, in a few

per a month, I'd know, we'd know that we'd have patientate. But it's

really, the survee. It's a survy, but it's more positive than the other the reality that we see, in the sense that's not necessarily

a strategy for re-bass the other to have to win it. We've got to uny, we're going to an extrax, an extraxion. We're really having to have to quit. So, we've got to sunnire. So, your strategy is to think, who will be able to be able to us to end up? So it creates a link of the team, and of the sentiment of appartagnance to group, which is completely different to what we've seen

at the television. And you're in resorts, I mean, we're we're saying, we're, we're going to do, you know, what you you've described your your battleeer, guerrier, you do it deploy completely

there in a really, and it's a different, it's a little that's special to see, that's a bit of,

I'm sure, because I'm to be able to to be back and to not do you, I'm sure, what I think

the more the more in this moment, is that all I'm not used to I'm not I'm not

I'm not I'm used, I'm in my message to I'm used, I'm used to respond to people

to be people who mass, because I'm polarize. And then it's all the time the message long of the same, like, but you're like, but I'm not ready to do that. Why, you know, I don't know,

I don't know if I'm sorry, finally, it's really special. When all your life, they're used to fight, fight, fight, fight. That would be the time to depose your gown of box? I think that I'm trying to

do it. It's really a more more therapy than I think it. I realized, it's a month, it's really a therapy for me, I, I read the message,

and there, there's probably, you know, it's cool, you're you're back to, it's all the time, it's to go to show, but you're

no, you're no more to be able to you know, you're just be able to be you're doing, it's just

it's true. And it's a lot of a little bit of even I'm going to be able to like to be being sure

when I'm saying, you know, I'm sure, I'm a point I'm a person, you're a friend,

that's all the time battue that's all the time back to get a carapace and I've advanced and I've been

but I'm really really that I think that I'm more blessed that I I think. I'd just have to be

I'm in doing it. It's just a lot of I'm doing. It's just a negative in my life that I'm going to do. But I think

I'm fatigued. I'm like a last time like a last time, it's just to be me to prove to me to me right.

And it's like when I'm trying to it's like that I was really like a good message to not not do you

be able to be able to be able to be probably probably before. Some of it I'm trying to maybe I'm

better at times. Maybe it's maybe it's me that's maybe it's I'd have to be I'm going to I'm saying,

I'm going to be flamboyant, I'm going to be, yes, I'm flamboyant, yes, but I'm not that. You're not any more than

in value, in fact, to highlight, you know, to be able to to signer, you're not going to be able to be to be sure, to be able to

exactly, point. And then, it's just to find out of this balance, and I'm sorry, I'm sorry, normally I'm

not probably I'm not asking this question that. So, that it reminds even in perspective on my look, on my abysments, I'm like,

is it too? You know, we've seen in the boas, while the day of the day of the time, and all the time I'm in the same time, I like,

I'm trying to find out of the two. It's really special. I hope that the question, we're going to start, we're going to get a question

that I'd like, I'd like that to be able to see, so, because then you get in front of the zone, we'd would have,

we'd make no no longer but there's my question, so we're going to go to get Thank you, thank you for example. Because when I said,

but I want to come to open your game. I love your job. I mean, I've adored, I've adored to be to have someone just to be. 100%,

not too, to be able to ask you not to question. I'd just on profite because I've not had been quite a lot of my life,

so we'd like, that's like, I'd just have to do fun, if I had some pleasure to help the to help you to help you

take a person, hey, he, he's, it's a 40 degree for you also and you're it's a lot to be,

that it would have just it's just a good excuse me I'm sorry I'm in time, it's like you're going to be able to own people, I'm

doing this one of course, I'm not too, so I'm saying to be in a group and accept it if I'm just like the little little bit

that you're a little bit of that you're back to be able to that. Ah, it's not really, I repassed

to do you're saying it's all right that it's like it makes a poupes of a thing I'm in a public and I never

to even to my parents and that I had an alumet when I was in a puddle and that I'd be in a while, and I'd say, but I'd really crue. And it's been like the tilt at the last second to say, as long as I'm going to I'm going to become the more

version of my own. But I had not realized that it's been more than what I thought. Wait, you know, we're in a puddle. Yeah, it was a fool. And we, you know, I'm really not something

that I've already talked because I had even onto my parents, invert, inverse, you push the amy, because it's unteous to have to to have to

you're going to you're going to get a you've got to be able to get a when you're the old, you

know, I'm afraid of, I'm afraid of, I'm afraid of, they're saying, they were, they'd like, they'd

just like, and, you know, and then, and yet, when I think, that's that I'm that's that my time,

that's the time, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be the age, and when I'm talking, I'm really,

that's, not a lot, so, I'm like I'm sure. And I can't believe that I have no importance to my life

tinted my perception of me. I was convinced that I didn't have this right to be able to this right? So,

that's for that when in, example, on a result, we see, we're like, we're like, we're like,

I'm not going, I'm going to be back to my life because I my, my my, my money, my popularity,

my reputation my reputation of the career, I'm back to me to me to me to have to give something

and that's that's not, you know, I'm going to be able to get to get in the montage, I'm doing

not, not, to be just to get to be able to be able to you know, you know,

I'm going to the combat, I think, he's finished or at the moment, he's, I'm sorry,

to be able to be able to end, and I'm just, I'm trying, and I'm in the same time, what's the

is what's the experience that's the experience that you have used, the experience, that's all,

these phrases that, I know, I'm mentally, I know, I know that's all the time what the other think of me, it's like,

what I'm doing to get to be back to that because at all the time, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

my care, it's positive, you can be able to, you can't, you can't be able to, I'm not used, I'm not sure, let's go,

we're able, but now, it's like, if I'm, an energy positive, and I think that's more more difficult,

because I'm because you're not in zone of family, yeah, You have you desensibilize, on diris, on it's really that.

It's really that. And I say, I'm still afraid that you a call in a question of, you know, she,

no, she's because she's because she has, she doesn't, I think I'm at the bonete pure and net,

but it has, you know, but I'm that's a question that I'm for that's for that's all right that's all right

to get to my co-com, my family, it's my life, I think, I think, I think,

they're so much people, so, I'm so much, so, so much, to depose plenty of things for the

game, it's part of the we're going to I'm sorry. No, no, I'm sorry. No, you're not,

no, you're not, we're not, we're going to make of what, O'Clair, Kevin. It's your question,

you're invited, you're saying, yes, the cards are there, the card are there, it's not,

you know, we're not, we're right, we're talking, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing,

no, but I want, I'm going to take the place, that you want, I want to do what you do, it's your

moment. And here, it's a zone of non-judgment. So, question red, question of order general,

question yellow, they're more specific to your story, question rose, they're more intimate

to your story. We say that the light is different, I'm in the misery to have the

color, the question and the rest of the company, you'll understand that's

sensual and sexual. Optorezo, it's our last question to this

grand encounter, it's always too dull. And you're a Joker. Perfect. Because the Joker

can be practical if sometimes, you know, you can't talk about to talk about to put some questions. It's not

when you put it on the table, I'll end, and we'll pass on another question. So,

level, you can be able to be able to make five. And I'm to let you know, and then you

go to choose to run, three, three, yeah, you can't, you can, choose,

to choose, to which you will respond and then I'll choose to me also

the four that's there's a place that in your life, what is your report with

the authority, what person has made a difference in your life? What is you, and what do you

and what? And what kind of of an child were you? Ah! I,

I think, I thought, I'm sure to go to go to and finally kind of kind of

different, and I I was right that I'm a little bit in my little processus presentment. I've got really on my old from when I'm sorry I'm sorry, I'm

pardoned a lot of things. And what's the child was you? I was really a guy jeanneed. When I came to the base,

I was not a person extravertie. I was really a little guy who was in the jubb of his mother. Not by a lack of confidence

just I was in this little quite quite yeah, we're we're three guys in three different with my friend.

So, I'm really the first time. I'm like my mother my mom, it's a a cuturier at the

house, receiving the clients. So I remember to regard the rob, and be like, oh, I'm going to gozs it.

You know, the frouettes. It's a very, very good cuturier of furrow. So, so I think I was really

a man of course. And then sometimes I had been this five-and- 12-old, 13-year. Sometimes I'm

remember of the adolescent fashed, a few, a lot of what? What's the what?

What's the point of bascule? I think it had been the the fact to always to have to

have the I never I never I'm not you're just like young I'm a little person

and you're in having a question of the difficulty to make a I'm not not you're not in a

group, I'm always always at the all the time all the time I'm even quite. You're not

invited to the fates of no part in the course in the course you did you have not quite a

many, and I'd really had always to to get to to get to get to I'm doing

to get to me balancet with someone I'm not always always still especially

at And I was never capable of having to have been I'm attracted I remember, he had a guy he had a guy he had a guy

in New Lacks in like St. St.Geneb, or pretty that's a little guy he arrived at the exterior

and it's new in the school I'm saying my chance after being my name. I'm going to I'm full

to play English, it was my life, but he's never had any of any kind of to be a

group of popular would be this little little bit and I'm like, manke

my chance again. I'm not but I'm not but how but how this infant,

I was in the incomprehension. I mean, I said to tell what I'm trying, to get to be normal. So,

it's for that when you're coming to be, they're in reason, because I'm, I'm saying, I'm saying,

maybe there's something that could be a , but I can't say what they have, but I just say that

I'm really really a regret, because I look in in photo, or even in video,

this little person that, and I'm just like, you had really all, you have all, you

all, you've got just just of confidence at the same that's the only that's the only I don't know

I don't know why I'm going to be able my mother my mother she's not it's not it's not

not about my parents that's really maybe in the maybe in a very far to not have an example at the television

to see my father and my two friends and two friends are in in forestery I'm

I'm in my mother I'm sorry I'm sure I'm sure to work to work like

well you're like no but maybe my emmeline in responding, no, you know, you know, he's going to do, he's like, he's going to do, you know, he's going to do what? You know, I'm doing, you know, there's not, not, there's a there, there's a lot of, there's a lot, the sole guy that I'm, it's a gross what I'm doing, that, the sole guy, to who I'm to be associated in my village, I was the curate. I'm like, there's, like, there are, there

be be be a bit of jewelry, a, you know, a cup in art. You'd ameth, yeah, and, and, and, you had a big, great, mazum, yeah, and you had, you'd be a bit of, but, you. You see, you'd see, you'd see, in fact, you'd be in fact of clear. Well, I'd say, in plus, there's not a fan. It'd probably been to go to me. There'd be much advantage. Yeah, I'd. I'd, and, you know, he'd probably, and they'd

be around a group, and the people, and the people and the people, I'd be curate. I was, like, I'd be cured. And, how you'd say, and how you'd say, to, I'd say, I'd probably at the blight, but that's, it'd be more young, the seven, eight years, I'd, that'd, you'd have been, you'd be able to,

but, you'd projected, to, or, in fact, you'd try to try to to find someone who could be in someone who would be in I'm trying to I'm trying

really a model he's really he's the plus my model after all right to because my frere he'd sorted

these sentiers like a like it's getting a car new for me

it's like I know I'm a guy who has a car who has really really from a little

my father repaired the old and it and it's we're trying to have to have

to travel to chalette it's that that's all the bough my friend who he was like no

I'm not in for a little pin and I'm able to be able to be able to be able to make sure, I'm able to get my first one of

my first one of my first time that's a lot of when I think when I'm like finally, I'm like, it's like pretty

and very soft but in the time that I'm afraid to see that very grandiose. And now, now you're

pretty. Yeah. And it's when it's confirmed what you wanted to do you want because I

had studied in construction before of an because I didn't I was not prepared. And I remember

to see the secondar-five to choose the course in the choice and they're ronged the long, I'm

like I can't think they're going to do you know, I'm really really realized that I'm really sure, I'm really always remember the

cover of review with the Jennifer Lopez of the world their rob for the Oscars I tripe I, I had

they'd looked the I'd like I know, but I didn't even not that a stilist exist at this

moment that you know, I've taken the decision with the vehicle that I had the

sole in the village who did a work artistic, it was the cooffeuse on the top of the

cooffeus to be in the thing, I'd like to have had been to have more to work more when you're doing.

But you're not going to do you know, so I'm not any example. You know, I'm in the same same way,

to give you my first my first designate by having never visit a museum luxurious.

It was just my idea in my time. I had never seen that it was my

third time, I'm confirmed that we're more on the more intelligently and it's more intelligently

I have some inspiration, but I realize that I have not a lot of my baggiege in my sack of so I'm still surprised. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm trying to do. I'm trying to do what I've reached to do with the poor of the poory of my own. I've had a lot of my parents, I've had all due, but I've got to do diversity.

Because in the font, there's your friends of Secondair 5 who who's inscribed in coiffure, is that you're in view of that? Tellment. But why you do it do you do? Because I could not. It's very, very, very, very,

in the way, I'm like to get accepted, and the parents my parents never said, my parents have never said you're not

that, it's me to make this pressure because I'm there's a normative around me, who they're talking

to hockey, of forest, I don't, I'm not just that the problem, it's not of their fault,

they've lived the way, they've had the way, but I'm not, I've got these examples,

so I'm so I'm not to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to go to go to cooffure,

even even as I I'm I'm a course of coiffure, because I was a barbier, it's more masculine. That's so, for you, for you, it's a pass. Yeah, so, so I said, we're going to say, we're going to do, we're doing that. And finally, during my course, I started to do with a certain talent.

So, I've started to decoled to this part that. And, you know, it's always been accepted by my family, you know, finally, it's been rough. For them, you know, my mother, me said something super cute when I said that I said, my My mother, she said, I don't know what's what, finally, a gay. Because, me, all my life, we've done, some of my life, we've done, some of the gay, and I know that

are not real when we're talking to my son. So, it's going to be re-explic, what, a gay, and we'll learn to learn together. It's the most

thing for me, because my mom, it's the science infuse, it's very intelligent, and it's all, and then I'm saying, what, I know, I know, I'm saying,

it's not true, because you're not because you're not what I'm talking to do, so we've been and my mother has used, and my mother,

I had to have. What's what you're You think? Rihing, when I think I'm thinking really I never

never would ever to say that I'm saying I'm telling I'm telling them I'm trying to to really and to sort of

not deceiving people because when you when you know when you're not too, you don't get but I'm afraid like it's like

I'm not really I'm not really why I'm they're like they're the people, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you're, Because you think that your friends have other

issues? Yes, we have all our issues. Definitely. I think you don't know when you're in

this little when you're in the little bit you know? With the recule, is that you can identify

because you have not an answer? I'm not to answer. I don't know. Again, you have no

I'm not to say, I've had some I've had some of my people who have been super important

that time before the time of the primary and the beginning guy to because I'm because I

often that I like the things very feminine, artistic, I've an attitude very, very, nice with the guys,

so I think it's always that I'm always to be able to not have a man who's the only that I know in my

infancy, you know, you're not the name guy, yeah, my name Dave, but finally, we're trying to

get the because we're having to be having, it's always it's always the whole part heterosexual

man, even it's me feel a bit, and then in the time, what I'm, there's still,

there's, who are you're just, Mark, I don't, I don't know how Aged, Re-Reagreact. It's like I'm not, I'm going to have to be able to get into They're saying, they're saying? But they're saying, but they're They're saying, they've said, they say, they've said, that's changed,

for their children, one, who makes to me say, to me tell, he clearly, he's got an difference, if it's not the identity of genre or orientation, but he knows that there's something, and he says, I've just l'lough to look at, in my head, I'd say, I'd say, to me, for not that he'd, and say, to-all,

I'd be, I'd be there, I'd be who have these examples like you for the people who are in this is super positive

of the guy who I'm in because at the radio I'm not in the way to get to get over the guy

to getro at the gym. It's really people who are in the car who are in your own and they're not

to be in a radio and it's like, oh yeah it's like, it's really it's really it's really

it's like you need to your perception of you really yeah yeah yeah

because you're the same guy there that you're in that's not changed. But it's that's the that's the

I'm not sure, I'm not sure I'm in many around the time that's not that's true to be more than to be in a

way. Why it's hard? Why it's true? I'm in there because I have been because I

have been to because I'm really up because I'm that's what it's it's been many people,

it's a lot of people that people don't know we're not in the club we're in some people

we had a $2,000 and they're paying $3,000 to pay you it's a gross story for these young

of 19, 20 so the people are not there's not there's a lot of the reason, the one of the

employee who had been a very, very, very, very, very good am really a really having a cut of a

door in the door, it's that's a lot of, I'm like, we're not, we're not, we're not,

I'm a last year, it's eight years, I've been in three boys in the family who we can have it all. I'm making

that, and it's some people around me, like the Julianne O, that Julianne

has percy my coquay. It was like, it was two years that we'd be like, because you refuse the invitations? Why do you seem that we're

talking? We're in front, we're the same interest, we have some people, we're not going to go because I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm

feeling, I'm afraid, I'm afraid that you need, I'm afraid that you're trying to you can't be not a bit of your life, you know, we're

going to find out of your life, and we're not all you're not that you're doing there's a combat in amour, you know,

I'm a combat amical, it's really that my defense. The trahizance, often will change the comportment.

They're going elevated the defiance. Then, after that I'm saying, I'm telling you I'm not

to be able to but I'm not, but I'm letting it after the time, and we have a couple of with who we

have a time, we're going to go to and we're on the time, it's like I'm

so I'm surprised at every every time. It's like you're not you're just maybe it not even though

I'm trying to get to time, you're things, all things, some of these best discussions. We've loved, to be able to see,

but it's like, it's like, it's like I'm like you're not, I'm not sure, but I'm afraid, but I'm afraid a lot of course,

like, so it's also my fault, but you know, but you're gonna have an impression that's 40 years, I'm emensip,

like, never, and I'm sorry, that's been in a year, that's been of nothing, so, so, so, so I've been, there's been

being sure of my resulta, the preparation for our reso, so I'd say, that I'm, that I'm, that's like,

and the two years I've been a kind of of a year of the year, I'm a

very much, I'm in a year, I'm more to get to ski to get to get to get in my life,

yeah, yeah, I'm gonna, six years, I'm gonna never skier, and I'm like,

I'm gonna a new to get, I'm gonna crossed, that time, so I'm gonna get,

I'm gonna get to be, yeah, I'm gonna be able to get to be able to and then, I'm gonna move,

and I'm gonna, and I'm And I'm like, hey, I'm good. So, that's re-revening with a remise in form, two years ago, that I've always had had always been with my car, and my vision of me even, and there's six, seven years,

I've started to be trained, to be confident, so, when we say, you know, when we say, you know, you've got to let's see the time at the time, the, you know, a rousseau,

and that's a lot, and that's a bit of a place to get a lot, a lot, and I'm sorry, by my mise-in-form, the sport, the ski, I'm doing excellent ski, I love ski, and I ski

I'm still, and it's really so you've got developed this potential, that's saying that you had that had to be in view, it was like, to say, I'm going to for, I'm like,

I say, I salute that because, because of the way to get used to, I'm trying, especially, plus you've been to get, you

see, you know, it's, 307, we're considered at risk and person on the piss, so, so it's like,

why the year that's like, why I'm like, why it's like, why it's cramped to, it's creamped to

So you're going to start. You're like geriatric? Yeah, exactly, at 37. You're a bear skiing at our age. But now, you ski? Yes, with my children. I've got introduced to so,

so I'm content to see that my choice do not that my can't live a genesse with more of sport, plus an activity. And, you know,

I've patined all my genese. So, clearly, it's a first time I've had been a one-shoddil and I'm at a proff three years

after, for really push the and me, you know, you're not going to ski all your life. You have the side of slalum

Exactly It's very And I like I like that's I'm sure I'm sure I'm just just to put in

the little Pace and sometimes the plan he's long and it's long but I'm not that it would be

all in my confidence what's what you're saying to give to Kevin? Hey,

for real there, so much to believe to know to that to be perhaps to be perhaps

to be perhaps because I had too because I had been advanced more than I'm

have done if it I'm going to have to be like a guerrower, like, but it's also correct to bring a light, you know, a battle it's got to

get a lot of, it's going to get in group. What do you, you know, the other? That, that,

that's this question that I'm really glad to that's really content that's that's not, you're not, but what the other

primed at my art and my style. That there, I think sometimes I'm that's just how I'm

about I'm not to be able to to be able to to be able to make it. It's not not even more but I realize

that sometimes I've got my time, I'm a little too too too. So, there's a

look, it's not, it's not more important, but even I'm, because I understand

because I'm because I think it's like that's like my thinking it's going to get to

question. You're not no longer, I'm fatigued in the Well, I'm going to be You're going to be Let's get

Let's get, let's say, let's get, to what? I'm going to see what my meeting, and how I'm like, how much,

I'm going to be like, I'm going to , I'm trying to be sophisticated, tendons, but comfortable. You know, so much of

things. I'm just suffoled. But it's what I prefer the plus, Mabue, I like that.

If you'd have known the Mettus, you're a stylist, you're a stylist, I'm sure that, yeah.

It's so, because the manner that's the your vestment, it's part to quite of your

state of your own and you know, I'm trying to do you know what I'm the best of the first line with what you're

the same the whole of the work that I knew that I didn't know that I'm that's always I was in the

people who I did you know, when I'm used to be able to people in people that cost you try try try

too sure but because it's my colleagues and the world that's like wow, it's who's your stylist?

And I'm like, say, we're like, we do. We do it for the pleasure, but it's a matter of, but it's a little budget. So, so it's often that in coiffure that has been

beneficial for me. I did show with the budget of $2,000, but we did do it do with allure of 20,000. So I've reached it to make it,

you confirm that I can't the phrase. But the regard of the other, like, you, you know, and to say, the people,

me create, but I don't know what, I think, to what, think, is, is, is,

is there, there's like a form of an interpretation where you're able to just read what is written without to have a

to make a little in your head when it's positive I'm more habituated that's really it's really weird in the fact

you can't you can't make anything like my Gisilene there's like that's just me never

affected I mean I've I've said I've been I've been I've been I've been the radio of social

that's already it's because it's the What, what's is that my person at the school before me say,

me says a comment negative, but someone that's a little bit of I'm not a syry, I don't know to get to impressionate. That's not

it's really really the positive, even of the world my friends, my colleagues of the time, my employees, my office,

I'm going to say, I'm, I'm sorry, for a reason, but you're not the time, it's not so, so I think,

the regard of the other, even when he's positive, maybe I'm not the attention, I know, but you know,

but you don't an importance. Maybe Maybe you said I don't not an importance but I'm the importance

that you don't to give to look at the other I'm afraid that's maybe that's not the fact that you want to be

that you feel that's a fact, it's a that's just you're reflish to that maybe it's but it's

I'm not saying if I'm saying a comment but again I'm going to say you're a commenter but it's a

commenter positive. It's more touchy it's so it's a it's a it's a role. For we

we're going to analyze that. Well, it's to do it's like you're like to do you

like you're like that's maybe it's part also to know my mom and she my mom I'm not

not said it I'm not not made to say now right because I'm like I'm like you're like I'm

like that I'm in I'm in then you're in I'm in but you know I'm not even I'm like you

know I'm I'm like I'm trying I'm back I'm we're able to the time, but surely that it part without the little things

of these little things mixed with the intimidation, mix it's like if I'm not by default, yeah, it's not a point in

when the intimidation? Secondary 3, 4? It's a during several. There's a guy in secondar 4 or 5 who said, he said, you know,

he's not at the gym, and he said, Kevin, it's gendant to be jeaned, just like what? He said,

it's, it's jeaninging it, I'd say, I'd be able to the head a little bit, you'll see,

it's going to be in a quarry. It's a mark this phrase that. I'm saying, it's true, I'm jeaned, but it's jeanate to be jeanne at this point

that. I'm atchair, I'd want to be not that people, to come to see, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot,

there's not, there's not, you know, that's not, you understand, and I, really, to make the end of the second-air,

you know, even a ball of finisant, and all the end, I really really to get to get to come to talk, and it's still

today. But it's always very therapeutic when I think to talk about you, it's a mix of emotion of positive indigative. And you're so inquiries for your girls? Tell me. It's the more. It's the more. Like, I'm a lion enraged. I don't accept

anything. I don't endure and I'm going to do. It's and I'm a lot of things. There's nothing that's already arrived? Yeah, I'm the worst parent. Okay, but it's already that you're going to you have to make the police at the school?

Yeah. I don't dure I don't do I don't do I don't I'm a I'm a patience for the

part of the part of the part of the no. D'clock when it's a question to say to

my wife, it's criminal we can't say to someone that you would be to be and it's a

menace of death, I'm not. I'm absolutely you're not no, you're not no,

it's automatically and yes and yes, and yes, we're sure, we're entoured by the people who

they've been I think he found my measures a bit drastic by moment. But because

it's a part also of a traumaism that's not exactly. For me, there's

only, I'm at being there's that I'm not going to get to help and that I'm going to

get me wrong, it's really really good, my marriage is just extremely short,

and is even inexistent. Commentar, paff. But, my children also, my own own

their people, they're also, they can't they can't not abuse to the part of me,

so, so, So now I'm to learn, but at dose it. But at least a little bit more difficult.

Now it's a lot good group of people of friends are super well accepted. I'm my little Casey who is a little

more timid and I'm more stressed for him. And finally, Casey, he has made his time with a few,

they're going to have two, and they're a trio of three friends who are their tricks. It's the three musketers,

they're all the time, they're like, it's super be able to see, it's super beau to have been to be in the sport,

and he's plenty of friends there's blonde, let's go it's go, it's well, he's good, he's my little

little Jasper than than he, more of the problem, of confidence of his time, and he's he's all

he's all right, he's good like a man, he's beautiful like a man, he's he came to change the

he's made, he's made, and he's made a comment, he's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm saying,

I'm like, I'm sorry, you know, I'm like, I'm sure, you know, he's like, he's like,

he's the most you're not, you know, You know, you know, you know, and to say, and to do you have to find out of 40. I don't know that they're going to understand at 40. You know, like, you're going to be able, and you're both in your difference is belle.

You're both in your difference. We're like, I'm more, the more than magazine. Hey, all the forms of beauty are beautiful. And then, out of the radio, to me see, to see, because of the sun, brule, not of creme solar. I'm just, I'm looking.

I'm, I'm like, wow, I'm more than I'm, you know, I'm trying to, you know, I'm looking at 40s, and I'm like, I'm not perfect, and it's very, you're very, correct like that. I'll say, I'll say that I'm

like a place, I'm trying, because for me, it's important, but I'm in practice, I'm thinking, I'm

going to focus, what I'm going to get to get, and I'm going to and I'm going to, I do more sport, and I'm going to be able to

play with it. You know, Josie La Viguer, she's all the time, the entrainment is a thing, but, you know, if you're having

to be motivated, it's, you have to have to pleasure. I'm really fun, the the morning the morning, the morning,

you know, you know, 100% but it's my positive, to listen to be able to be able to just like that

your own I'm trying to trypy, it's a few to be able to be able to be really to be able to be able to

get the episodes without them I've been a viewing party with the participants and he was like, well, you're like

insulted of the situation, they're really embarked in the project and it's my more grand fan

for their for their even they're even they're even though I'm too fool to say that. I've tried them

they're from their they're not they're not they're not they're sure they're not I'm sure

they're not they're not in a family like all but that they're a pair like a man

and that I'm gonna have done for a I'm sure I'm also I'm also I'm really

I'm really I'm I'm really you're gonna full full full full it's my mission to be

you know you know you you know you're incredible They love They love So,

I'm trying That's why I'm I'm going to question I'm sure I'm sure when we're

pasting by the intimidation, we can't teller anything because you have still the impact of that really,

I'm doing nothing for them, but I think it will be part of their apprenticeship and the

little comments that you know, but you see really that's really to come you know,

you're to do you see from some of my people, he's just like, you're just like to give

to give to give, he's he's because he's just like, it's just like, it's your opinion of the thing, whatever. So, so I, I think it's fun

to see that, that one of my little bit of my little bit more, so, like, I'm identify more with him, you know, because it's just like, I'm trying to do you.

And then it's, it's a commenter that's too anodin, but I'm, but I'm like, no, no, no, you'll be not that, you'll not,

that's, you'll not that face the way. I want to be that's a chance to try to try to be and you're,

you know, when Mario, when Mario, you're in political, Angela, who is in sixth year, she had made ekearie at the school, by, in the case, by a carrie, in a car. In other case, she had

talked to her, and she had said, do you really need to me on parley? And, and it's, it's been, you know, the guy, he said, well, I wanted to be, well, you really need to be, and then,

and then, she has responded to, well, she said, I don't know, I said, I'm , I said, I said, I'm saying, you, she had, too, you, it's , you know, it's not true, that, it's not really, that, I said, okay, but, you know, for an

other infant, it's, it's, we're completely other thing, we're, we're not ego face of that. Really not. It's, everyone, they're, they're doing different.

Yeah. And I think, also, our children, the fact that they come to a deuce who they know, it doesn't, it's a lot,

to what he resembles, so I've got that I'm a lot, that's a lot of, if it's been to say, it's, he's put out of my questions,

to make some people, you know, because, he has, the eyes, a little bit brided. So you can be asiatic, but you can also be Hispanic and have the ears brides.

We, our fists, we know of a donoise Hispanic. So, clearly, we, we're reconnoes of this donoes, of this genitrice, and it's been to

even to be able to to give, we want to be the genitrice in our children when you were adult, and it would be preoccupied too that we're trying,

that we decided to be able to be able to be to be able to be this year, and I'm thinking emotionally, like, it's a moment,

like emotional, it would have many, Mark, Claude, we're having a photo and you, you're like, no, no interest.

Okay. He has just it's just it's like, it's just it's just that's just that's going to

that's going to open a door, no, no. It's not for us. For us, it's not not.

And then, my, we, we're just, we're just, we're just, to her, she's very

very gente, but I'm and there, and there's me and I'm, you're saying, like, how you're

talking, like, they're just like, but he's, Just like, but, Papa, you're saying, to do you? Do you, consult? Want you to let you? You want to be?

You're going to be? You know, we're talking, no, we're no, we're not a question there's, like, like, it's not, it's not their family. Exactly, and it's not their family, and they

understand really the concept of a family, it's someone who is a true extraordinary, it's a that's an angel that's passed in our life,

and a very good, it's a very good person, but it's not we regard to it's like, there's like, there's like, there's not

to see, there's, and that it's surprised. I'm like a man, I'm going to call this, we're going to

call this way, we're going to get to turn to the photo, it's a duration, oh, perfect. Ah, but

that's, it's, but it's surprise, not. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to after it's

a moment that. But you know, they don't, they know, they didn't, it's all right, okay,

it's so, exactly, I'm going to go, we're going to get on the stress. Maybe, maybe even

maybe later, there will be there are, there's compared to that, not have you not I've been to

I'm not I'm going to I'm going to you're always you're always you're saying you're to give you know what I'm saying you

not you're not my mom who's that's a genetries for me but I'm not know my genitrice so I think it's that's that I've been able to

always say I'm I'm just to judge not there's just not there's just there's not there's not it's surprised at how they're

not there's really not sure not not exactly with a lot of little decalage, maybe eventually. But I think I think it's

more than you're to be able to because you can get a like I'm talking, you're not and there's a kind of a

fact I'm glad that came to more later than more than you know, I'm that's true. It's a level of

you can't give me on four, if you'll please, you'll respond to one and I'm

and I'm to put on one. The last one, all the time first, central,

like that, center, like that, perfect. So, So, what type of amourous are you? What trait of character has you erited to your mother?

How your relationship with the has elvueue with the time the time? What is the most great defeat that's the most great thing? They're the most questions.

I could tell you I'd say the I'm going to find out of how the type of amoe is you? Because this time I'm like in my chum,

I'm more than never. It's not to be a bono. After 18 18. You can't not,

you know, when I'm when I'm when I'm chosen, I didn't why I'd like I'd like to choose it. I had a little voice

in the interior of me who said, I know that's not to turn to in this moment, you don't know to causey, you'll not be in

couple, but you have to there's a lot there's quite here, and my love has been to get to

after this year, we've made together, you know, it's a lot that's in couple, we're in

we're just that's my family, and it's not just amical, it's really am really, but it's also

my best I'm also my I'm also my to make sure, I'm sure, I want to be in a great rave. We have a phrase ensemble, and I want to have

the more be the best life on the world. I want to do you, hey, your best best life to look, and I want and we're saying, we've got the most best of the world. So, we'll let's

be a lot of our things. I don't know about an open up over the car, it's not that. What I mean, when he said,

when he says, he wants to go to go to Costa Rica, I, well, he has made three voyages with his fists for all,

to go to Costa Rica. I was like, I can't you can't be to get to to go, I'm attire for the Costa Rica.

I like even me to guard for the voyage for a life for a way to get for a year to get to get to

we're going to say, well, he said, well, you're to be able to you're going to be to be able to the time.

We've got a little conivance and I think it's that it's a fact that it's that we're making to be able to

get to be used to the same to do you do you're not to make a few years, it's to be a meal for

for someone. They're not not all good. Wait, but you cuisine Not, but you cuisine not? I'm not, do you know, do you know,

some badonet and some a poddogue, or a pizza yeah, it's all the I'm doing, I'm doing,

I'm sure, I'm just, it's not, you know, okay, it's not, okay, I'm not,

but he's not good, but he's a good, and he's a good idea, so he has been so,

he's probably, he's, he's, You're a family of five. Exactly. It's always It's always It's always

It's always It's always Like a day of It's always like a few night, he's always He arrives to work, he prepares

his soupy So I'm like, He's not That's like, I'm gonna He's always I'm gonna be At the end

And he's like, It's not very good for cuisine I said, But I'm gonna me find a recipe and And I'm

And I'm over Ones on something Not real, I'm on something, It's not grandiose That's what let's what's what you're, what's

it's a lot of a lot of stuff like, okay, and I'm doing, with a panneur and then I'm fine, and with some part and the legume.

It's very, very, very, simple, but it's very, very, simple, but it's all right, it's all right, so it's a matter

time. So, that's, it's really, I want to you want to be, that I'm trying, I'm sure, and he's

really there for me, before my career and I'm, and I've always there for his career, but I'm not,

just that we're just that's with the children, we'll help for the career. I want to help him. I want to help him. I'm really, like I. I do. You know, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm never to give them to Godo of Noelle. Never. And the year past, I've listened, and I'm going to buy him to buy it. Because, you know, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing, you know, we're trying, you know, we're doing, you're

I was surprised. I've got got to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to everyone. And I was, he was trying to

see to come to see a lot, I'm going to I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, that I'm, okay, that's, and then I'm doing that's,

I'm doing it to get to get to get to get to the time of the time? Your name? Your language of my name,

it's not the question, but he's not the same different, we're not the same language of the language of the life, so I tell air,

so I'm there's a little with a few seconds. And there's a zone of security. Now, I'm trying to you can't.

Like, yeah, he's like, he's like, he's like, and he's like, and then he's like,

and I see that's like that's like the I'm doing it a little bit, but he's not a minute,

he's not, we can't, but you can't be a bit, but I'm not, I'd exaggerate, because I'm, I'd like,

I'd like, and I'd all over the t' all right to but I'm, you're like, there's all the vows to do the

But it's not finished. So we're joined between the milieu. It's a little bit. And I'm just to make a little bit. So we're temper a little bit.

Antonio, it's the whole calm in the house. It's our rock, in fact. Yeah, because you're different,

totally. He me apace so much. When I was with him, it's all right. Like, all right, it's,

he mappase really. And it's the first person in which I've really in which I have made confidence. I've had a

confidence. I have with Antonio. We're part in voyage, it's so much because my clients they're saying

or my friends, you're going to you're going, I know, I'm going to go, I see, I'm sorry, I'm going to go and I'm going to

go to go, oh, yeah, I'm going to be about it, I'm going to be able, and I'm going to and I'm going, and I'm going,

he's all, all, too, too, all, too, all the voyage, it's all he he ador so. But there, my defy,

not, you know, that, Antoio, that's to he's to be a new day because he has never done it's always he'd

prepare. Is he is he is able to be able to do that to say, I'm going

to do you know. And he's good comedien if he's not quite he'd be able to his own

times. No, but it's quite quite to be able to be able to and he's a little

before, so I'd like, I'm really to be able to you prepare a same time. It's a little voyage

in Africa if it's it's a great voyage in Africa? It's a same, and I'm

like it would be there in the of the reverse a bit for the for it's really,

and it's that I'm going to be that's a lot of people think I'm that's a lot of that's a few times, it's a lot of that's why it's

that's a real of that I'm trying to that I'm able to that's able to have been able to it's a move other ports, it's a mate,

and it's I've got a brand to my brandy for you're getting produced yeah, exactly and it's not to be a bit

it's not a view of it's been to in more 150 salons in Quebec oh, Oh, yeah, apart more than your I'm trying.

It's a tonne. Exactly. Brand Kevin Kyd In general long story short I part of it because I thought that on the market

all the market, all they were and that I wanted a routine simple and effective for the people. So, we have worked with

with a technology, it's a car product that function for for almost all the types of different

we're quite we're totally we're totally so much and the people it's not just a product of it's not just a

product for the pair of hair, I'm just I've been 20 years I've been coiff. And I'm a tricologist

also of Musti. So, I'm going to work with the chemist for push my concesses. And it's, you, it's a passion that I had not been. Because, you know, until we said, I'd be a stilist, but having had been some odd old old age, I'm going to marketing or in publicity.

So, me, to do everything, the marketing, I realize that, the life had a plan, I've parted by the coofer, mode, I've abbeyed my career, for finally to work as long to work, marketing, we're doing of the importation, we

to work with the world of that's that's been able to voyage, so, you know, I've created the

best of the best of the way that's just that is a way completely different. But you're to arrive at your destination.

Really, and just at 40 years. It's just that that's just that that's like what's like what's like,

what's like, I'm like, I'm like, that's like five, six, seven, seven years, it's like,

I'm just, I guess, I'm looking, I look, I look, the opportunity, I think, I think,

I'm actually, You're just focused on the ports firm and you go to defunce because you're used to that's a

way to do you when it's not easy, to accept it there's going to have to be able to and there's really there's

and I'm just content to get to be and I'm with a big group to me. I'm

I'm still I'm it's an end of it. It's not I'm not many people

I'm not many people I'm still we can't have it all. And I think it's that that's what I mean, I said I can't even have

but finally I think when you're a good person you can't, there are some people who can't even because I'm in the good person, there's a other

good person on the planet Earth. There's plenty. There's plenty. There's plenty of good person, you know, it's what your

value, you, it's like, is it's like, is some, it's like, it's like, you're like, you know,

that you're that you're that there that's a lot that you're there's a lot of, you know, really,

you have to be there things in common, actually, and you can evolve, and to grow. And a new

my own and it's a great, it's a good to be a time to be in a a new thing and that's not that you're

not necessarily, you know, and then you know, they're going to and then you're just Kim Rusk, it's the main time, you

know, we're full-proach during Love Story. A bonnay, we've got, my life, my career explode, and you

see, and you see, I'm, it's so far, it's so much it's done well it's done by it's done by it's not,

but it's the But finally, no. Kim, it's still, it's the life. The life is not always in line-droit, I think that sometimes it's so I'm more centred on me, and it's what the problem? There's just no problem. Go with the flow.

I'm going to be able to questions. No, no, but I'm doing, because it's true, you're the reason. It's, sometimes we're, we're thinking, a bit of dynamitique, to take, to turn, is, is it doing something? But sometimes, it's just the life. Tell me.

It's the life that, if we, we, we have more, We have more of time. You know, you have to have your chum, you have 25 employees, you know, he'd rest more than time, there? Clearly. It's not that I'm so on, too. Fould not, you know, certain? Wait, wait.

What question I'm going to be posed? I think I'm going to go ahead. How do you have, tell, evolved, the time? That's right, I'd have connected. The argent, that, it's not really, and that, there's plenty of that you're playing, and there's plenty that he's going to be on-re-reve-a-reve-reve-to-we're

like, okay, the old chandel on the old casket it's not don't me don't know a bit of a bit of

I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing, I'm always I'm always I'm just it's not

the money and I'm much, many people, my parents my parents do have working,

my guys work at people, they're doing at the office, he has they're gonna

work, they're chari of the board, for have a salary, to get that's a time,

it's a $15, we're on 10, we're on But you're at a salary minimum, and here's what's what you're going. So, you're going to have to have all the posts in my enterprise for you can't do you have to do. And then, my pluvier, like his father,

has decided to quit my enterprise this year for going to work. And it's perfect like that. I want to learn, I see what, it's what a boss, with an orrere, that's not he who he who's chosen, and it's that the same, and I know that it's a good employee, and I think that you ought to be a good employee, because of the money, it's a merit. You can't just have it like that.

I never I'm going to give them my children. They have they're doing because it's not easy to gain the money.

Fae, you have to be able to you know, and he has made these choices, more young, he has made some more money

that they've made to get back to $2,000 of money that had amassed to all his Fights and his Newel

and of his life, and he has to get for $2,000 to money, to have been he's all over

his money? He's all he's all he left, if I was if you were to be to know to know the value

of the money. I've got to come. And he's made to have completely. But it's like

that you learn, and for me it's super important. He's chance of show, there's the time to get to

get the time to make a time to make a time to make a not very interesting what I've done,

it's not that I'm always my time and I have always my own it's more difficult for us.

It's not naturally to make sure to be more to be with my children, poor in a toady, that rich, not an child, in a beautiful

house. So, for me, to have all the two, a beautiful construction of my own, it's a dream absolute, but never it will define my home. Our home, it's our family. That's all right, you could live without that? Definitely.

But, you know, when, when we're capable to say that we can live without that, it's, it's more free, more accrue to a mode of a way imposed by

the money. Because, you know, Plus, you have, plus that you're a mode of of life that's the most of the time. You know, so you're almost

all the time to count as well. And we, we're really, we're doing on the things that we're doing, we've worked

for that. But, you know, my vatement, I'm not in the more than the bigot of, that's not a lot of,

you know, and when I don't know, and when you're that's a quote, that's quite, that's quite that's not because

you're not because it's not because you're not because you need a car, my time, a little car, a little

of a little of nothing, that's not the car, we're not in things of the car, we're not

going to be in the way, it's not luxury. In fact, it's what you're doing. It's what we like we're doing

without that. I can't that's not a real house to the house of the house of my parents, super

comfortable, a little house that will be a lot of a maximum in region, I'm in

New York, I'm sure to get to get to specify where, because you're going to want to buy

to buy the house of your parents, you'll be it's a great beautiful, she's a great year to get her probably, she's probably, she's

getting more. She's gone to be more than this pandemic, it's sure, it's that it's been 100,000. And, you know, when the children

will not this gross house, we'll go to a little condo, or maybe maybe a chalais, it's, it's

don't know, I'm able to be able to have different experience. Have you VIII? Never,

not of the money, you know, in the sense that young, with my parents, you know, my mom

had to cut out You look at the house. We had not a great rhythm of life, but I'm going to when you're going to

to be in because I'm at my parents. If I was not said, I'm going to to get to the bullshit to my

person, I'm not a man who had a man who had been to I'm going to I'm going to see that, I'm going to

go to work and I'm going to get to money, it's I'm going to I'm not going to I'm going to I've had to

a moment that I had to come in a moment that I had to know that I'm in the first of the day I'm I'm coming to

I'm going to go to my char, for really, we're trying to I'm afraid, for for a lot, I'm trying to be sure, it's just

saying, yeah, it's not for to be there a little bit more to do it, you know, to get to full,

you've got to quitted, it's really important, and it's that it's really that, and that's the phrase that

that mark, that we've, well, why you're in life, you'd be just to be able, to be,

to be, to try, to be, to me, time as much, as much as, I'm trying to money that's,

$500 dollars, and add Vienne that we're We're trying the Toll the whole for the And finally, yes, I'm going to I'm going to buy, I'm trying to buy,

but it's really hard when we're repents because I never been tired of that. I was just a choy, it's a choice, very

assummed, and I'm sure, I'm I'm not in the gross misery no more, but I'm just a pack

of ramen that I'm costed, j'n't $10 and I'm for the same, but I'm

not enough for I'm not enough I decided a couple of of days where I skip a meal. So you had had a cell in quantity

to get rid of your body, I don't know. So you had to manage, but it's what you have the money to get?

Because I had the way of the time, and the connoisseau, I said, I'm not a night, I have a sign to get

not a good dormer, you know, it's bullshit, I'm just not a son for pay the cover.

And after after I'm to get very difficult and and I'm done to return to my parents, I'm my mother

had, in plus, to pay me my apartment that I had said a faux montage, I had said 250, but it was like 450. And then my car car, and then my car, and then it would be quit.

So, I'm due to quit. I'm retaken to work at work at IGA. I'm like in baller. I've returned to work. And then the Lofstery is arrived.

So I've had used two tentative in Montreal for to get to get two times. Is when you to answer to the parents?

Just that only time, we've already that my mother had even more access to my account, that could even more

me verry of the money $75 dollars of my I'm like, why I get that? It's for the Caddle of your God, I'm like, how you're doing

I'm doing it. I'm still on your account. Well, why you? I've never run. You're still in a case scolair

that's like that. Exactly. So, my mother have also access to that my account. I think I'm to say,

to make to to make a parent like, 30 years, probably, because you you omitted to say

when you were to say, when you were after that you meant to again, but not you're to be able to

you're trying to I'm trying to me to have to have made me to do with her, and I know that my mrs. And I know, I'd have been, I'd have to have to be retent to me and say, I'm saying, like, I'm accepting, and it's correct that I'm not parrary to my parents, it's correct. So, I'm set tattooed, but I'm stressed, like, she said, finally. She's, she said, she's not good, no more.

Okay, but she has, but... She'll have, but you'd have made it fair, before, since then. Well, yeah, at 10, 19, 10, 20, 21, I'd have made... You'd have not de plait at your mother. I'd have tattooed everywhere on the jamb, because it's for not that my mother the voire. I made her tattooed the door, before.

And here, I was turned to, I'm in the cut out of, okay, we're like, we're going to get past

a little. Hey, there, it's anguosan for our children, finally. Verify the

of your of your own of your and you, that's that you've done that you have said,

well, it's been correct, it's me my time, my mom will be listening

my mom to get used my question, yeah, she's never ever, she's me that's me

that's me they're that I'm I wanted the most impressioned in... You wanted to be interested. I didn't

be quite as well as them to be in these people, they're just not, they're just not, they're to be in the great family,

10, and so they have had these great struggle, the poverty with their parents, the truth, I said,

like, I have a beautiful life relaxed, they've done, they've done they've done they've done, they've done,

they're doing, they're doing a stress, and I just said, and I know that I'm different. And I think I

is, if it's, because you're gay? Is it's that the difference? Is it that that's just that? Not that, no. Yes, I'm gay, but I'm not like my parents. Okay, it's that, because I said, it's not just

to be that, the difference. It's really, my parents, have, no, are not interested in the money, it's not, it's not, it's like, the , you know, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to, and I'm going to offer that, and I know, and I know,

to have them to offer them, and I know, and I'm know, because those are, he irate not. They're not, they're not, they're not. But, they're not, we're going to, we're going to live in New York, and then we're going to, you know, of money, it's a way of transport.

We can go to go long and we can go to get to we're in we're going to you're going to we're going to

and we're going to and we've done to do you know, we've got to get to work, you know what it's correct, we can't have been

we'll be afraid or we'll be able to we're going to be able to and that's important because I think people are saying

oh my God he rule there's a money, but if you do you're if you're there's money it's why I think it's

it's, it's viv, there's experience. 100% and it's just these stories, it's just a few grandparent, to go to go to

a while, you know, it's all over, it's a life. Like, I'm going to go to go to to go to to go to

to go. It's a no, but it's so much it's so it's just it's a gang, your tribe,

your community, your own, your own, your little community. Because, you know, my girls don't,

my parents, they're not two grandmaire, extraordinary. Like, my belle-maire, Sylvie, it's a total number,

a great personality, it's a rube that's all right, and I'm always there, and I'm all the time. Is it

a lot of that's a lot of a matter, that's a lot of my mother, my mother, had been to be my belle-

Mary, she, she'll have always, she has never said no, she'll be, there's a

there's not for these little people, it's not all all the mors, it's not all,

she'll be to let me get to my wife, to go to get her question that's going to get her and she's

a job, she's I'm not a accident, the year of the year past, he's made fracked by a car car,

a big accident, and my mother, her, all right, she's like, she's like, she's like,

she's like, she's like, he's totally, he's just he's just, he's, he's just,

he's just, he's really he's really really, you know, and I'm really to be like, and I'm just like, wow,

you know, there's a grandmaire extraordinary. It's beautiful to see that. It's not just the maternity

it's not just in mom and infant. It's not form of maternity and it's, it's a place to have been

an old family, so all the characters are important. Yeah, and it's gratifying also.

Tell me. To, to be to you let's this place there also. Because it's complex

sometimes, you know, I'm talking sometimes some of other grandparent, the place, you know,

I think, that when we're grandparent, and there's my opinion, it's like it's like, it's like,

we know what, the place. I think we don't know not to be the place. I think that we're

not the place, because it's not our children. This end, I'm just a man, so it's

to say, I'm not, I'm not, I'm the mother of my wife, who has been

a man with someone of other who has there, so you, and I'm,

and I, I mean, at the beginning, I was at-a-taughton. Can you have to be... Well, because you have not deranged Nicola, who is the father? You know, you're doing. But you've asked you. Ah, yes, I've been to pose these questions. That, really, it was, I'm going to be there where you want.

When you want, I'll do, I want to do you want, but I want to do with what you want. I'm going to ask you, but... The problem, soon, is that we're at a time, but... A good question, clear. What place you wanted to be in the life that time? I think that, you'll start. It's going to be. with the time,

because it's, you know, I'm a my wife, I'm a girl, I'm a guy, and there's a lot of,

yeah, it's more easy, when you're the mother of the woman, when you're the man of the guy, and then,

okay, but it's a much, I'm, how I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm, so, so, so, finally, it's, I think, it's,

so, I think, when I'm always, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, that's all,

that's It's the interview Nipot to I can't. I'm in the end up I'm in there and I'm in there when I'm saying, I don't know,

you know, I'm trying I'm afraid. You know, I'm sorry back back. You know, I think, I think, I think that's I'm going to be

ready to get retrained. You're too young for to be retrained again, but I think my my friends are with my parents

when I'm not be retrained not, I'm oh, my no, I would be totally mix it's so, but I'm

all mixed it, but you change of mode of life. You know, if you can to work to know where

if you're like a more a lot of you're like a kind of you can make in place

there, but I'm it's sure he starts to say, like they're saying, Mamie,

alo! He's three words and he's like he's absolutely touching but it's

really hard to be not sure not soon I'm not too I'm too soon

yeah but you're my life the more the child the chom is not convictable I'm

not convictable But as I said I said I let the life like I'm trying I'm trying to I'm trying to

like the I'm trying to I'm in front but I'm sorry but you know why you want to have a other infant?

It's, it's, you not more profite to be more more difficult monetarman at the moment

I'm I'm a little jealousy I'm sure I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be a

to be able to be a my family and to have made the lavage of, I've not

I've been this little bit that tranquil. Because you you're trying to work

at this moment that, and it's it's quite it's quite, you know, you know, you've got to

you have been a lot of that, that's, that's, it's a money, so it's

very, it's been with certain sacrifices, so, so, you know, I'm , you know,

that's the life of my parents, they're correct also, I'm not,

I'm sure, I'm sure, my mom my mom has always say, you,

let them, but you're content, we're, But, you know, it's going to they're not in the sense

that's not the sense that's not. But I'm not a lot like I'm going to have pushed the note like I'm going to say that.

I never said, we've never said, we've already re-essied for a fourth-em. Even my parents don't know. We've already

have tried and it's me that's me that try the plough. Because in this moment that it would have been in

my three guys. I was in a pig of my career where I'd I was going to go to in Italy, I'm sorry I thought it

in Italy and I went to go ahead and my son and said you're really that's really that actually that's not a fourth you're not going to

like I'm not just like I'm just like the three guys and we're like that we'll end up if you're if you're at if you're

I'll re-embarker not, I'm like I'm going to take this decision that at this moment that and I'll never regretted

as long as I'm again to get a until I'm a after the again again because it's not the moment I think

I'm going to be honest with yourself and I'd have been in a way to be able to be able to I'm doing this I'm doing

to know my guy, I'd have new to my house and I'm knew to be in my own own so much,

and I'd have been in a space serene and and I'd have still a grossess complicated, monetarily more stressant

I'd have been not a paternity, it would it's been it's been chaotic.

So I'm content to me to make to me to be a guy who who's a guy who who's

a guy who's some feeling, and it's you're going to be in exchange very young and that I'm going to have full full energy, or maybe my chum who will be decided

and he will say, and he will say, like, I'm bringing that. But I'm trying far, I tell you, I'm saying, I'm going to do, I'm going to do, I'm going to do, two for that. What's what you?

What's that's brought in your life, the paternity? Hey, what's, too, too, too, too, it's not the bonnet, the paternity, it's the most beautiful of the world.

It's made to see all my default, and it's made these amelioring. I'm really a better version of

because of them you know, I think too I think too I'm in my day more to remember my time,

what's the what I'm doing what I'm and what's what I'm doing that's what you're what you're

that's what my day my day my day my day yeah, it's a moment that can't

be a man to be able and you're a lot of it would have a lot of times sometimes it's

simple bonnour and I'm inculque, so we've made it they've made appreciate the little

times they've been they've been they're in what I'm quite, it's my therapy,

they're with they're in the fact that the life, the joy can be easy in the

house, a gross family, a gross tableet. Gen, I like that I've created

the family that I've ever, in fact, that I have to have to be able to also.

Yeah, and it's not evident. No. I'd my chappo because to create a

family, like you the chem has been laborious to arrive to have your three

children with Antonio But it's that's the that's a like you know, you know, when Mesa has had

been a accident all the time, it's difficult, an accident, but I'm sure, when Mesa had been in

the last year, it was coming to my time, I'm gonna be a couple but, but it's,

it's a , you know, he was a hearing, he's been, on hysteria, like, on the time,

I'm trying to get in me to get in to get in my mom, and I'm just like, I'm

good, my man, I just, we're going to get a phone, and it's just, we don't know what he says. All of what we're doing, it's, these cries, and, um, I'm, I'm just,

I'm sorry, I'm a pull-to-teck in life, and all, and all right, it's a song of voice, like, a, you know, a train that deraue,

the song that's just that it's just that, in his voice. Cries, sound metallic, yeah, and, and the only

word that's out of his book is, it's not bad, it's just that, that they sound. I was like if I had not the choice to be there

and there there was just like, it's just like, he's just like, he's just like, when I said, there's a

infirmier who has had been in that, she said, he's got into that, you've got to for your son, I'm,

I'm sorry, that's, he'd be, so, he's going to be, he'd be front, on Ryex, and scan,

I'm effronra, I'm effroner at time, I'm effroned at the time, like, I'd run, he'd rentra'd

in Piers, Not you trace, Mason. That, I was I was afraid to me because I thought to get a moment dramatic,

I had to be in a lot of, but it's their they're doing that they're that you're to realize, when you're

having their kids, that they count so, and I think that when Mason had been to have been

to do, if I'm not other, it's correct. I'm really really, I'm really really,

really, really, really, really. And then you go the full, full, full, full, I said that,

I'm all the urgency here, but he had a problem with his genus before. So, yeah,

he's still still in a back of the back to do you. He's a little bit more sensitive, it's more difficult

for the sport, but he retien not the point, it's not a point out of there's a little fighter, and he's

already in his plan of rehabilitation for the sport. Yesterday, he's in chair, he's like,

it's not worry, I'm not, I'm going to do you, I'm doing, I'm going to get to be

made by a child. I'm sure when you're when you're the world And it's like you realize that you can't be protected each moment because it's,

it's, it's a, it's a, he traversed the road. He was in scooter. And it's a person who turned on a red, in the front, and he had turned at the moment where he'd couldn't and my son, but, you know, you know, not, you know, you,'ve got 14 in this moment that, you know, you know, the regs of the road,

but he's said, hey, vert, at clingot, I can turn to the left, I imagine, but it's a presumption, I don't have no proof of that, had passed, and he left, he had been, reflex, to to be a scooter.

In plus, it didn't even not his scooter to be the scooter non-amie. Long story. And he jumped on the scooter

and the car had percuted his arm. If he had not soot the char he passed to you. So that's

that's these images impuventable. And you know, when I said my chum, I like this time this time I'm in love

with my chum because he is arrived at the urgency, my chum, he's a job there's a long time the chief of unity

in the urgency in the north in two hospitals different and he's he's not even if now he's working on an injectable it's his

domain, he's around the pandemic and when you're coming to be there, they've got treated my

father with a priority X and then my chum he's arrived and he said, no, more than 50

hour impact, I'm just no matter you have not pance at some toe to this

so, so so, malorously it's a more than a more diagnostic here,

it's not like that it's not the director's the place immediately. And my man, who is calm, calm in life,

that's he's he's not, he's not asking when, I said, I said, now, and there's many people, like,

more intelligent than what I'm, even, I'm going to I'm in a rection. You said, but it's who, he, he, he, you know,

in his force, and it's like, that I've done, we're the meher of the people, that, I'm, like,

he's hysteric in the life, my son, he said just papa. So, so, can-iniscence of the hospital, it's not me.

It's not me who's going to see what I can't. I can't even have to live in my car in this moment. I can't. I know anything like that. He has all the connections. He, no, no, he's all right. He's all right. You can't do you.

You can't do you. It's illegal. It's just like that you've got to do. You could have to do that job. And he's very, he's intimidated, Antonio. It's what he's got to be able to. And so, he's intimidated. And finally, he had been very, we've been very well.

We've been, we've been very well, we're, we've had to be in the tar. it's stressful to say that but we're trying to get in a little little bit of a hospital, it's an little bit of a

little hospital, the person on the stress probably probably that's just that we're just so that we're content at the final but I'm

just content to see that my time and it was like I'm like I'm for my parents and it's just incredible and

it's just it's just that it's a question that you know, and I'm sorry that's a little guy that's a few

and that's like you're more far than you but the life is rough for my man. And then, listen, plus, your parents, because he was where she was not supposed to be, at the hour that he had not supposed to be, not with the person who had been supposed to,

and then had an accident, so I've had the impression that it, like, ranne to-suit, at 14-year, to bombar, and it's, and it's super bad, so, we're sure, so, we're happy, I'm happy my mother, and, and now, that's, it's a drow, my mom, and then-money-mat, and, you know, all the night, like, d'-gare-a-t-t, ch'-da-tah, the end of eight-hour, I'm madame, I'm sorry, my mom, I'm sorry, my mom. Well, it's when the Pression

Descent? Yeah, but I had I had I'm going to say that's I'm going to say that's

at a point I'm stressed at the point I'm going to the time of the people who it was not to be able to

it's not to be able to make it so we're then the end of the then the one of the

dislocated the genus but we didn't he was able to move to be to make

to make a sign of murder for finally and it's you're We don't know, we don't know if you'd say, I don't know if you'd have lost to her, she'll have lost to have been, and then I'm saying, there's a

someone who's still, it's impossible. The charred total, the scooter also. And he's on end up with a rien, I'm going to look at all. I'm going to think, I think, it's good to believe. We know, we don't know the things, but it's a good, but it's not a person. It's not. You know, so you're the impression that it starts to serve, the surveil. Definitely. I'm sure that, yeah. It's not, we'd say not. I'd say, it's It's going to be to think.

I'm going to ask you have to be in the way after that. We'd like to have to be we're doing

we're doing yeah, we're doing you know, you're doing to please? Okay, so I'm

so I'm okay, so, so, so, what is your relation with the

war? Yeah, it's a great, we're on time, to say, at

how much at you have you have you have you want, you that's

at what the need of profound Antonio, repon't it. They are good. Oh, my

God. They are all good for real, well, I'm going to your relation with

the marriage because I'm more than I'm I'm sure of the death, my

grandpair when he decided. I'm saying, it's the person to be traumatized a

bit, I'm not that. But, We'd say that have had been

my wife, to have had a pair of my son, to have, the jubmore also,

you know, all the time chaotic. Now, I'm trying to not be to be able to just to be able,

and to be just chanceue, to get on a bit of the mission Artemis in the moment I'm,

I'm not, and I'm to do, at what, we're just the microbes in a ecosystem

grandios, and then, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm respond to Bight, if you're really just so, my struggle, we'll

profit the life, and all right, and all right, so I'd say, I'd say that now, I'd say that every day is just a discussion around the table, a moment with you in this moment, if I'd decide today, I'd have a good moment with you, it's important, I accept just what it's the time to do. I don't plead more, I don't have any concession as grand as before, because each year could be the last year, so I try to be able to be a little bit more fragile than we think.

It's what your deil the most important? My fee, definitively, it's a pretty many, it's been in remit. It's a few years, now. I'm able to talk without, I'm able to say,

even if I'd even not enumering the word. It's, even I'd say, a force, now. It's, what you know,

don't know, we're in front, that. It's really very, this slogan that. And it's been difficult,

but, you know, I realized also with the time, that it's more than it, it was, it's, it was,

I mean, I'd batten up my parents, I've had been to my intimidation. You know,

I remember at this time I'm 24 when we're going to get the grossess of my first of my

first, I'm not, I'm not all the life, and I see it again,

and I'm a baton an rw, and like, no, we've not put put a baton

down, we've done, we've done the force to continue to continue to and to continue to

and it, I'm my more power now, I'm with me. and it has been to talk

I was in the frustration, I'd like I'd like it's like, I'd say that I'd accept, but I can't say that I'll say that I'll ever have to be with, and that I'm afraid of a fewness. I'm not a victim.

I'm a person and I'm a person strong, and I've been a person who's that's been able to and I felt like that and I was like, you can't do

get, you can't do you can't do and see what he's that's something that's what, what Antonio and you have lived, the life and

the more in time? It's atroce. I feel I'm sorry sometimes because when he is made,

I think now it's more it's more I'm concerned on the life at the life on the and when

Mesaun is I'm in there I'm really bad in my life but the the worst moment of my

life and I'm feeling I'm sorry to be able to let's see a chien salle

you just you just to get to my questions that I'm put? No but

yes yes yes I have that it's a situation that few of people will live.

And then after, you're full and then you're like, well, they're doing a piece, and you're there

to be there to be there's in your life? So, that's a little bit of fine, yeah, no.

And I'm tired of the night, I'm totally fatigued, I'm not to be able to not to be

because I don't, that I had to the pain, or so, so my day, it had been to be able to

because at the time, I'm not many times, I'm sorry invers, man, I'm sorry,

very, very, very, very, when you were three, four, it's been in,

it's a , it's not, you're in the people, you're going to , you're in, you're in to get to

the school, but I'm, I'm going to, you're not, you know, and the first, the first time he was in

the secondar, the ball of finishant, it's all, it's a pre prehist, you know, just to,

you're in the, you're in all the time, and I get in the back, and I'm out of the vatement of

my feet, it's, it's all the all the time. You know, it's all the time. I'm not able to be able to

get to be able to get to be able to get to you know, can you know, can you know, I'm not able to get it, you know,

I'm not doing if I'm not a little bit of the mode. But I want to do it, and I learn to live

with, but I'm to get to be, I can't say, I'll be not say, I'm able to like a,

it's like, a man, really, really, and, you know, we're doing, we're, we're doing,

a statue, that's, my daughter, she's in the courerire, is she's really disuette, abimed, but I'm going to be in the just because it

has been part of us. I want to see her and she's part of the family that's, because we're explain to the people who are that's a little

miracle who's like, it's a cut-d-d of the and I think it's that, I'll stop to be

to be on the death, and that's what I'm to be able to, I'm much, I'm

much, by my time, by my family, by my family, but I've had been much

more of positive than negative after all, and it's there's I'm concerned for the

next year to it's a lot of it's been to see, I'm trying to question. Yeah, but it's not

a reproach. No, it's just that I'm doing, I'm doing, that's just that, I'm doing, that's,

it's a feeling like I had the impression that I'm always, I'm on the impression, but I'm on,

but not, in fact, not at all the time than, there's, there's, okay,

and then, and it's, and the other other time, I had a very close to me and they said we said we're going to

ask you know, we're going to question, let's we're going to say, let's say, I'm saying, you bad fed to say that you're

okay, and you're going to get, but you're all the time? But I'm, well, we're saying, well, I'm

don't, so I'm saying, I'm not, so I'm sure to be able to it's more there's really there's really

there's really there's been my own my life, and it's a pazons, it's like, you're like,

you're like, you're talking, you're talking, Personally, she's all literally in this moment. I don't know. Okay, you're right. Well, I'm doing

well, it's good to understand that because I'm more than you. Well, yeah. It's sure that we're in question. I'd have you

have been more to say that. Is it more more than you're, more than it's, it's more it's like, it's finished

that, that, it's part of the history, but if all if all of you it would be simple, but it's not the

way, it's not the there's important to you or, uh, yeah, it's a honestly,

honestly, I'm really, I'm a lot of in this time I don't know if I'm Is that I'm Is that I'm

Would I'm I'm repose I'm gonna Because it's too It's too legue In my head But I'm just Profite plenty

From the moment When I'm at the Because after It's finished 100% I think you're I'm right I'm gonna

I'm gonna I'm afraid of But because But if you know It's a lot But it's It's a lot of It's always

It's always Functioned to Like that's It's functioned like so, and he march rapidly, and he's posed a lot of question. But, me, it's a matter to my mind, to me pose

the question, you're doing other than you're in front of course. And you're not not necessarily. D'Amble, you have an instinct who's to say, what to say, you're to repose, not to question.

To, you, it's calms something. But is, is that, you can't, you could re-penter the person? No, now,

at 40 years, it's like, if I'm, it's like, my limit to me personal. If you were re-adjusted a discussion. Yes,

but at this time, I can't do it's not not you've been to do it, in the sense that if I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, because I'm ready to say, I'm sorry, you're talking about, you're not trying, you know, I'm talking about, but sometimes, it's too far for the people.

I feel like, after. Kastor, I'd attenue my comment. Okay, I, I understand what you say, where is the limit? I've been like that, young, more young, more, more than, you lack a little of poli, he macken, a couple, of color, you know, maybe, you know, I'd go, like, I'd go, right, because

I'd go ahead, directly, but, de facto, it's not necessarily to go, as it's because the person perceives differently of you. So, it's not the but it's not the to be the same. It's your own. It's a good thing.

So it's the best of being here. We know our processus. But I know our processus. I mean, I'm pose these questions the night just to confirm that my journey.

It's a bit of my day, I'm content of my day, I'm going to go to the night. I'm going to prepare you the vatement of the night? No, but,

I think, sometimes I do sessions of magasnard of because I have plenty of vets with the etiquette, but I'm still, and it's still it's all year

it's all right, and I'm doing my outfit the week or my outfit of the same or my events or my voyage like I'm for what you

like you want to be for me, for me, really I'm so I'm so much I'm not being I'm being in the maybe,

but I'm ready. Well, but that's, that's you see, yeah. Yeah, and in plus,

how you can't be, there's kind of a philosophy there every all the time. All the time. Oh,

yeah, you can't know, you can't do you see how I'm that's more than what you put,

it's what you , it's what you , really. But you magazine, you're doing you book? Yes,

but I'm going to do you know, I'm going to like a voyage shopping. Okay. Okay, you're really

a professional. Yeah, but I'm saying my place favorite. But, but there's times it's not

enough of new stock. I'm like, you know, a magazine of my preferer, but like,

they sort of maybe maybe this year, I'm like, this year, I'm just what you do?

What's, what you do? What do you do? I'm doing to do you know to do? I'm a

an organist who came to come in a time. They're going to do a few years and they're very good

and they're very, very, very good good at times. And I'm not to do you because I'm not a lot of

but I'm not in the same it's not some more than some of the beautiful in the world. Well,

that's you've got to run the economy. Well, yeah, really, I've done

to run the economy certainly. That's important to have to have to run for to play

the economy. Nive Ros and yeah, you'll me on four, If you please, Kevin.

We'll have on the same way we're here. Thank you. Thank you. Is it a subject taboo in your family?

What do you have you to do your first time? What's you have made to know about on the sexuality

at 20 time? What do you do you? To get you I'm not, I'm not sure to be around

even if it's the realgenital the first What? The first You can't be able to

be, we can be, we're between two. It's your story. I can't I can't

I can't get the first time. I've made the love with a female in fact, I've casted my

frame in on the on the engine and it and it's so I know that I've been

that I'm not can't not make it's really it's really and it it's a traumatized for

my life like it that's it's not it's not to get to come to

get a okay but talk with more more of more of more of our penis,

the guy, there's what is the called a thing that's supposed to be to be able to be able to

be able to work I'm not, why, I don't know but it's not been made not quite but I

know that's not that my head it was made like that so, you know, so due

to the pressure, it has had all then, and then I'm always,

I'm just I'm just I'm trying, oh, my God, I'm and that's it had

all right, it's not it's had totally made mal. And I didn't not what I was going to say, I was the first time. Not the

guy, so I mean, I said, why? I'm still not normal. What do you know, and you know, and the situation is embattant? Yeah, abettante. Yes, I'm not. I didn't know what the medicine, because I was ginned. I was more young. So,

I'm not used, and it, and it's reparied by so-me. But, you, it's, it's made really a cicatrice, there in back. And more later in my life, I've

used a other history and it's continued to and I'm sorry I'm still never even though I'm already

and then you're getting to have been able to get to get the frame. So I'm a big stacriss like that. But there's

repaired. It's a bit a little cicatress, all, like that, it's a same.

It's a have been the other relations? Yes, by the way that's still it's replasted it's correct,

but it's certainly that's redchered later in my life, with a guy this time.

So it's an story that I'm about a bit of with a word but I'm going with a job with a coffee.

With a coffee. Is it a lot of not the relations sexual, but some relationships with

my family? I've had two two blonde. For me, it was super important to try,

because I wanted to a time, and I know, to my defense because I know that's

because I'm not correct at 100% but I maybe there there's a other guy like you

have some with these guys, but finally they are capable I was because I said I'd say, but I'd say, but I'd

not go, but I'd be not going to be a lot of guy, so I'm saying, well, maybe it's a way, and I'm even resolute to

be, maybe maybe it's so the people, people are not too, but they do it, but they do you know, I'm really

that the first that I'm gonna have done with a guy, I'm really made, you, it's easy to have a reaction, I'm not,

I didn't think, it's like, it's like, it's much, it's much, like, it's much, I'd like,

I'd, I'd think, for realizing that it's the abandon of your own, it's, it's, it's just being with a person, and it's like, you say,

I can't be able to it, it's not, it's a part of my car, he's about it, so, it's a lot of, the first time, I've got to have

been to have done because I was I'm feeling a bad, but after that I was just repensate to and you're like, you're like,

you're stimulated sexuallyly, you know, I'm not just, the kids with the people, they were good person, he had

there were there were there'd be qualities, the part affective, but sex, I mean, I had not an attireance.

So, so it's not natural for me. And when you have come up, you'd have been good, to find this zone

that, this state, yeah, yeah, because you'd be, and it's, to get

to get to other people like you, you know, I've met back, there's a lot, there's really,

there's really more, more extraterrested, you're, you're doing, there's, there's quite, and to be

super-assumed, one of my of my Ami Mathew in that he had, he had full-proached of his mother. And I said

like, you know, my name, it's like, well, so we're like it's like, it's like, it's not to make a little bit more than it.

It's not so to say that's to say that's it's a little bit of education to have a few people to do you, but at a

final it's been being able to it's not, you know, I've been so difficult to that, you have been a story, I've been that you can't,

that you can't, I'm Perthed the Perthew, it's a part of the bad news, but you feel like to talk about it. Because we're still in the family. It's a part of their relationship. But the guys, we don't say, we're going to be,

we're really a pressure for the guys. It's like, it's like, we have to control. We, we, we, we know how it's going to be able to experience than any of this stage. That's trussed, the first time? It was just, I had tell me stressed. You know, I had not an attireness. It's always that I think to my erection, not to

to not have to be able to. I understand, and there, it's a problem, that, because it's true that we're more of the female. Yeah,

yeah, and my partner is extraordinary. I think it's that the fact that I'm able to have done, she's the

name of my first time, she's still with her really nice, and she was she was always she was always

she has always she said, and she she wanted, like, she had, she said, she said

she'd not ready to get, and we had, like, an affection amoreous also,

and she's really a person proche to me , and me, and I'm accept. And I've really had some of them.

For me, it's not negative, this part of my life. Because after, I grew a second coppine, and then you know, you see, I'm not able to, that's like, it's like, I'm assuming, but I was like, I'm, like, I was trying, I'm stressed,

stressed, I'm not capable, I'm not at least. It's like, and even that, I'm, I'd say, not, but, you know, when I was saying, the last time I was coming to, I'm

my copy, that, I'm not sure, I'm, like, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm trying, I'm, I'm sorry, Like, like, like, I'm like, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. It's a, I'm sorry. It's like, I'm not too. It's like, and then I'm party. In fact, I'm just,

it's just, she's, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she didn't, she, she, I'm, like, you know, a bit too, too, I'm going, but it's,

it's a follant because you can't feel like, that's not, that's so that with my copin, I'm sure, so,

like, and you see, a sexuality adapted, you know, I'd see it's all right, but, you know, like, we'd have and then you're doing, and then we'd and then we'd find out of life,

so I think, you know, it's fun, to discover with her, and then, when she'd have, a bit more of experience, when it was, she'd have a lot to be, I'm not very

very well. He'd be able to see pretty like that. Very pretty. What's got, you had, you had made

to say, at 20 years, on 20 years, on the sexuality, um, well, I'd have made to show,

that we'd just being with our car, and I'm not always been able to know that I'm in

sure you know, I'm interested to know that all the type of car there's not just the car of revue muskly that is both,

all the car is really my own my name, Mark, there on my on my on 20,

at 26, at 30 years, I'm remember my in the time that I'm still trying there's always

there like I'm that's just that you're too ruff. But what's you're trying there's

on the car? I've heard a lot of weight, and like I said all the time, the power, it's a lot, you know, my mother, it's a little bit more round, and she's really, like, she's really there's a bit more, and she's like, I'm just, like, I'm not,

I'm like, I'm going to be able, and, and I'm always at all the same weight, and it's on the same, my mother, she's always, she's in form, she, she's, she, and she has, that doesn't, you know, more, I'd do plus see, some example. I'm, I'm, I said, because I'm, you know, we had,

we said, she'd, so, so, so, I'm, in my head, I'd have had other things, And then, I've got a little bedin. I'm a big like that. I'm trained. I get a fun, and I should be able to say before that it's correct

to have different types of car. The bus, I tell you, it's to do do exercise what you're going to do and eat, what you're doing in health and be in your car. It's not because you're meg that you're in health. I've been able to be 140

and I'm going to be in health. Now I'm in 190, and I feel perfectly like that. Perfectly, perfectly. I said that, but it's I said to say, I mean, I've been not paid to, so

Bravo. Bravo. No, but, but, uh, well, because, you know, the balance, it's an impression

that's immense, you know, there's a movement, Stephanie Leonorke, and a psychologist, in trouble alimentar, she,

she, she, it's like, we, you know, we get the balance, uh, it's, it's, and,

it's, and we, uh, we know, exactly how much we're, you know, who are,

who are, they're, they're very obsessive, obsessive, also. I was very obsessive. Each morning I'd be able to,

if I was if I was in a point three gram too old, it would be able to change my but it's like it that's not

that's not in the health I'm not in because I'm very low calories for having a certain weight that finally,

I realized that I'm going to be sportive, I'm so it's hard. And it all over too because that

you're like dissu to by 300 gram. Exactly, it has no to be at 300 grams of

bonner. It has no that's all that you you see that a shape is it's not important. You know,

just that's your chib, you know, where's the you know, and you know, and your my mind,

my vatements. It's the way that's the fact, that's for that I'm not to let me go to know the vatement,

so I'm not, it's a impact, but it's to me make more, you know, that's really that's not that's not so

that I'm too much, you know, I'm not really when I'm not, and he's all the point, you're like, you're

like, you're always it's more certain, you're this equilibrium, of the health, and the

sport. And, and he made your car? 100%. Hey, he'd permit to

do you do it's a lot of a little I've seen in our radio. You've have seen in our

radio? I'm, I'm not just gay, I'm gay, I'm gay, I'm gay, you're gay,

that when you did that? Really, but I'm back to all my life, so I'm

going to me back against the minorities, against the abuse. I think it's a little

more to me to be in the future, not just And for the good person. Help, because I've got to

help you said until, like I said to let me get in the time that's the time it's always, it's really being.

And I'm able to that. I'm going to see that. No, it's very well, it's really good. It's so much

my decisions and I'm very I'm very. Last question, Kevin, the question opto-rezo. If you

look, the ensemble of your part of what is you the part of your answer would be bizarre, but of me.

I'm really proud of my I'm afraid of my but I'm afraid of my but it's me the field of conductor that's all right, the little Kevin, that,

who's made sure, that, he's like he's like, he thinks what to you? He doesn't, he's not, but in the same time, he's savent in his

end of him, I've always knew I've got to be special. And it's that he forced to me bat and be a guerrier. I've listened

the other, it's, it's tinted my vision of me, but my little bit of the interior, I'm like I don't know what's going to

me to prove to me to be in my own, that, yes, I'm live in Montreal, yes, I

can't have with the person to be used, yes, I can get my life, yes, I can have

a little and I, even if I'm , yeah, I'm in the fact, that I'm would be able

to get to that. So, he had never douted. I'm I'm sure that he

advanced all the people that said that it's didn't, it's What is what's

to rest to attain in your life? I'm really accomplished much of my checklist.

98% I think it's that's that that's what I'm think it's that's a plan of life on 80

I'm I think it I think so you're so that so you're so to let's to let's

to let's to let's the life me surprise I think I'm really I'm really

all I'm there's all you can't you can't you can't you can be you're to be

your poor competitor There's not there's a possibility and I'm and I'm going to get to

but I'm going to but I'm going to be able to your life will tell you Kevin? Yeah. It's a

very change because what you say it's exigent that's very exigent and I realize that I'm a bit fatigued of all these

combat over and I'm sorry not really not not really not but I realize that sometimes it's a lot and I'm glad

after a couple of of weeks it's you're doing it to call you Paulone it's all you me that I who'd

make my my administration and like, well, but I'm like, well, yeah, but I'm like,

yeah, but I'm in it's not normal. So, so you have to learn to be to be in the time, and then

other of my little bit personal, to appreciate the to go to the pharmacy. Yeah, because I

never did that my life. You know, to find it to get to it, and it's a luxe, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, to have the problem, to get in the range of

the same, to change to change My hour is so at a tour that I can not have to

get a pharmacy. I'm going for that's this year. And then I'm away. And I'm avid. And I'm a

little panier, like a man, like I'm not used. And then I jazed for one hour in the alley.

And I'm like, I'm just that. I think that I'm that I'm that I know, I'm

that's a super important in the life these little moments that. Full. It's really

important, even for the bonner. In fact, for having a I live a

full of that it it's a part of the and I'm in it's a lot of it's a reason why it's

that they're doing it that they're able to that you're because I'm doing it's bad too in saying

personality conu the media but finally I can't be all I'm I can't

be able to that means not not really because you know in your person you're Kevin

exactly you're not you're not you're not you're not sure that's that's your

you're so you're so In a lot of that, that you're not known, not they're not. It's a change to be.

They're not. And to see, and to see who I'm that's correct, to be like I'm at 100% and that's even it's a big big bag of

of love. So I think it's just that for the future. I want just to accept that I'm different. It's very

that I'm different of the other, but it's good that difference that's correct to not be like all the world, it's

that's what you make a complex. No, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not,

Boll the moor of the bush. Well, I, I'd like, that your gowns, and you're saying, and that you profit of your pharmacy? No, but you profit of the simplicity of the life. Really? Of these little moments that

that have to look of nothing. But I think when we arrive at these zones, we're no time to do what's like what's like,

it's, before to find the extraordinary, you know, it's like the base, that's what I'm that I'm

that I'm that I want, that I'm I'd like to be these things more ordinary, really relax.

Everything has been greatiose in my life, all, all, all, since I've

been to get to get to be in a guerrised, I'm that I'm that I'm in this moment.

Because that, there's no pressure, there's not of the performance, there just to be there

in your moment, to you, without, without, without, so I'm accept the

the project that me tank, but I'm going to me to have to guarded for the impreview.

But it's that at 40s, you know, it's just really, but it's really, like, I'm like, it's like a lot of,

people who are, you know, I'm more in form than that you're more than my time, because they've been to

they're not, I'm going to get to be able to and I, and you know, I think it's a little the quarantine,

and I'm to the time, and I'm saying, it's what, it's a lot in 10th, you know, profit z' so,

so it's really it's a big, a big tranche of age, really. I'm sure that, we're sure that, we're more stressed,

it's good. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you very very well. Thank you very very much.

Thank you very very much. Thank you very partaged a pan of your life. Thank you always

good for us but good continuity. Thank you very very much. I'd I'd like and get again

your concourse, you're doing you're doing too stressful. It's too stressful but you're but you're

still still but you're kind of Exactly, I'm going where is where I wanted to go, I'm going to maybe my colleagues to do this

for my colleagues, to do you know, for the course, I'm pretty much more stressful. A bit more than a bit more than Desterad.

Well, yeah, but you're passing by that, so go. Thank you, thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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