Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #156 - Stéphanie Boulay | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

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by moment I'm I'm almost I'm never the I'm not not going to

open your open your like I'm like I'm like an time

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real by a way to the image of these characters. Thank you thank you thank you very much.

She chante in a fashion incredible, we've known with his son, they have some their voice

melodic, these voices where they do they find these harmonies that's different and that's

complete, I imagine that you have you think of her Bully exactly.

And today I receive Stephanie Boulet. I think that's a woman of a great

sensibility that's very these state of your own on the social,

who we can also discover his hyper sensibility by his music, by the

words of these songs, and the impression, as, as we said, we'll

have a real and profound, so, place to Stephanie. It's came

me because because I, again today, I think again I'm

still I'm I'm I think again that I'm a neaseous because I have a

way of intellectualize the life that's not the same than the middle of the middle, I

think, and I think I'm a crush, always, always, even if I the diagnostic

now, but it's like anchored in me. Open Your Yeah, The ReTon Your Honor

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woman, I think, is profound, it will certainly give a discussion rich, profound,

intimate, sensible. I had to have this discussion. She was going to be in front me. Stephanie Bully. Hello, Hello, Markle. How do you? I'm full-be-being. Yeah, I'm really in a good pass of my

life in this moment. What what's that changed when you're full-been? What's you do? I do you do do a lot of things, I'm thinking that when I'm doing, it's when I'm playing when I'm a routine, when I have

a hour, that I'm I live the morning, I have things to do I'm I'm going to I'm doing to say some of the

things mean to be chants I'm sure I'm a sure I'm a better person overall. When you

you said the word routine because it's important the routine in the life. There are the

impression that we're having the freedom and yet it's important, it's a lot of

impression that? Really, and I'm a pretty fru to have done to have done to get a

thing, I'm going to understand that, and I'm thinking that's allergic to that. I remember when I was,

like, like, I was, like, I was, like, my parents to go, to work the time, I'm, I'm,

I could, I'd never live with this routine that, you, to go to go to get to that,

I'm not, I'm not, that, and I'm, I think, it's like, I'm decided to do the MET

that I'm doing, you, I'm I have the need to be free. But now, you know, I'm at school in this moment.

I'm insured at the university, and the morning I'm up to get, I'm going to to go to the security, and it's a cut much, my anxiety,

but I don't know that it would be restrained, but it's a contract. And then, you're studying, what? I studied in

what? I'm going to have a voicate. It's a great change. Really, really. Is it long time that you

think to that's a And so it's It's a lot because I know how much it's a lot of it's my

friends who were in my friends who are when they were after I've made after I'm asking to get a lot of you're doing it, it's hot that you

have made, but I think that I think I've always had a sort of this espete that of injustice it's a

a value that I'm a value that I'm even if the right is not perfect and right not necessarily justice but

I'm like a woman a little revendicatrists, and I think that it's always abited, and I think even that it's made to make

some of my life, because I canalize mal, in fact, this, these revendication, that, this spirit that I had, I had it

had been mal adjusted at certain moments of my life, and there, I'm to get to an place that a place

more of the way where I am sure but the spirit, and the spirit, it's a revendicator, defense

what I think is just. And I've had I thought to this morning because I'm wondering to what we're going to talk about. I said,

in all the person that I know, I'm probably one of people who has made the most face to the right in my life.

I've subed the right, a lot, I've been when I'm when I was I'm still, you know, I'm just

when I was when I was when I was young, when I was 18 years, it was In my family, I had wanted to have

the guard of my sister, like the tutel, but I wanted to get my daughter, and I wanted to get my

puttied to the right, and then then later in my life, signed these contracts, we've all

had all we've all we've got to we've been on the industry, we're sign these contracts,

that's they're defavorable, and then we live with the consequences all our life.

I have the impression that the right has always always that I'm always that I'm

and that for me, it's like a way to get something, that's to have the impression to reprint

the power, to be able to know my rights, and after that, to be able to defend, perhaps those

of other people. It's a great decision. Really. And when you do you say, you're in your place?

Yes, it's bizarre to be at the school, at my age, with these people of 20 years,

it's like, I'm the Madame, you think, I think he's person like the madam, but it's,

but it's I have remonted, I've done quite done a lot of session of therapy

there's in because to me to be in a school, it's to get to get to get some

of my infancy, the, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm afraid of being not as

intelligent, I'm afraid that my TDAH me make to have the naseuse, there's a

lot, I'm a , I'm found some people, I'm afraid to me rechete,

there, there's a lot of that it but now, that's a little placed,

and that I've made my first examines and that I realize that it's my brain, my brain, I'm sure,

I'm in my place, yeah. Because you're a lot of question, really. Yeah,

at what, we're going to start, we're going to start, I said, I was going to have plenty of angles

that I wanted to learn to you, because when we're when we're talking, you know,

there's plenty of questions that's, I'm, the first I'm, I'm, I'm

I've got almost an interview in my head, you can't and then

you're in front of me, so that's but to return to the world, I think it's

there's a time in the there's a way to get to get to see, but, and to

get to to get to be to get it's a full of normal, you,

it's the , it's the suite of the life, you know, we continue to live,

but it's courageous because you had already a career to say, I'm commence,

one other? I don't if it's courageous. The people that I think the people who are the people who are

my age and continue to gravite in the domain of spectacle. I think they think more courageous than I

think I'm trying to be also the other affair is that I'm also chanceoes, more than I'm sure,

because I'm saying I have probably to probably have enough to have a economy and to have a

system in place that function to be able to be to be I'm often, I'm

not an I would have made it to be able to have been in a lot of, but let's I'm in

if I'm in a young in a moment I'm not I'm not I'm going to I think you know the

first morning when I'm going to be I'm going to I'm feeling and I'm I'm trying to be able to

be able to get to my first day of all these doubts that but now I'm trying certainly

certainly chanceous in fact to be at a good place yeah so so here

so here to open your show, Stephanie. Nive Verveau, it's these questions of order general.

And you're going to start with it's your yeah, after that you're going to be. All right all the questions that

you're not answered, you've got to all you can't get to be doing it and I'm sure. Absolutely,

listen, it's, and level jones, it's these questions that are more personal,

more specific. The questions rose, it's, we're, we're, we're reading in your

we're more, we're more, we're more, we're plus in your The

Niveau Rose, it's these questions of sensual or sexual the question auto-reso

is the question some of the question, um, it's a good resume of that we're that we're together,

and the Joker, it's when you say, okay, that, it's the that I'm at my

adventurer, and you'll use, it's not just a first one for a same,

it's just one, but if you say, guard, I'm okay, but I'm

you want we're going to get to get so you're so you do it's like you feel like you do you're

you can't you can't you can't you're doing I'm done five I'm going to I'm sure I'm afraid

I'm afraid I'm scared I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm like when I'm okay because you I'm doing

I can't okay I'm conced I'm done three okay but you see the tarot I'm just pose the questions

you're not I'm up to I'm not a answer It's that the difference. So, you're going to and then

then I'm choosing one, and I'm and choose one after. Perfect. What importance you have

you to to regard of the other? Whoa. What? What do you? What do? What's the

entire you're the most often? What kind of were you? And for

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time? I hesitate again. Perfect. Pratt your time, it's your time, it's your

question. Okay, no, I'm saying, what's the person, thank you. I've got to broye,

he said, there's not a box of Kleenex on this table? She's is there. She's there.

She's in my own. My entourage, especially my chum, the thing that's at what

point I can be be violent over me and I'm I'm I'm

quite a conscious of this violence in the last years in the last year I'm not to nais

with that I'm in this moment I'm three therapy it's like not all the weeks,

but I'm very many therapy different different yeah, yeah I'm I'm doing I'm doing

what's what's it's like the movement of the movement of the yeah I'm a therapy more

classic and I'm my time, my, we're in therapy of couple in our three months of relations. You know, when you're able to fill the formula, it's like how many of years you have passed in couple, we're, it's three months.

So I'm so I'm a lot of course and the impact that has on me, but also of the impact that it has on the other and I'm more more conscience

by the fact that I'm a little a personality public, you know, because the regard that I'm not on the day that I'm talk, he can have an impact on the people, not just on my

cellul, in fact. So, I'm trying to work in fact that, because I'm always trying to say that I'm not, that I'm mad, that I, that I'm , that I'm mad, that I'm , that I'm not intelligent, that I'm not be able, that my face, and

that I'm too riddened, and I think it, and I'm so, my child, met on, he, he, he me, he me, he me truly be really, and he them even, and he me I'm adorable,

and he he's got a beautiful of things in my, and it's made a pain profoundly to me know,

and it's really, never, that, of who, that's not that I'm, even not a

person, that's the person who can really be really, because the things that people can

be saying, there are nothing that can't me say that I'm saying, and I'm just, you

have your entire enemy? Really. And even, to me to me say, it's correct

to be, I think I'm conscious of my defy, and that's a quality, but I think even that I'm

invent, in fact, I'm like a dysmorphy, the, so far to the to who I

think I'm to be, there's completely at the plate. So, so you see,

it's not what you is. Exactly, exactly. And I see that, primarily,

it's lourour, because I I'm all the time in time of quayette, some I'm sure, I'm sure

that the people that's a way of the question to be sure my going to be able to be able to the little

woman who has been able to be sure, but I think it's a lot to to be able to and I

think for the people who me like a person, it's really difficult to live.

Because we can't think it's exaggerate, that's, that's not that's not that's

could be and it's it's true, it's that, it's so, it's You know, my chum, they're like,

you know, you're like, you know, like, like, like, he's like, he's like,

and it's like he said, he's like he to be able, to me to be extraordinary, you know, so, it's really

counterproductive, and I think that's, sometimes, a good, , I'm too, centred

on me, because I'm too, I'm, I've got, I've , I've heard,

with Mary, Peter Artur, who said, he'd revive the conversations several after after

after they've I've been living. And I'm always in trying to do that, but to point what I said to be the

correct, or point to how I'm could be more doing it's like it's really centered on me.

And I think it that's that's so, that I'm that I'm that I'm in the same time that I

mean, that's not a lot for the other, for the other, for the other, for the life, for the moment present

at the time. There was a sabotage? Yeah, really. There's, some, do you,

is, is what, have always been like that this discourse interior that, invert you,

is it always been present? Yes, I think that we know, I'm remember,

I've I've been very to with some time in my life, like in six year,

and it's young, really, according, what we're, what we're very young. Sixth

year, so, even perhaps after the five- year, is, is you

know, is the other people, that were not, so you know, that existe at the

at the time, no, no, no, no, idea, of what,

what was the and it's what the objective? I know, it's just that I, I, I,

I was, I was doing the lot of notation, and I'm just, never,

the nouriture me curate, and I remember, because I know, now I see the

photo of that, and I remember, to come in the mirrorer, and it's

not, I'm doing the, what, it's what, it's the dismorphie, the corporeal,

I, I'm not , I'm not, I'm, like I was I think it was probably

a way of sort of like to be able to be able to maybe, I don't know if I wanted to be able to

if I'm going to get the attention or if I want to be my face, but I know that it

would say that I would say that I'm I'm a I'm saying that the people

who were looking me were to be monstrueue I have really the impression

to be monstrous And the night when I'd in my chamber I'd change and I was like I was in the cave so if if someone

was there could be able to be able to be that someone me look at least me disabier that I'd do you

before the fockyoo before the for me to be able to be trying to to be in front of me at this moment yeah

it's just it's like you're never alone oh no I'm I'm never alone

you think you think always you think always you think always around to you with some

with the scenarios that are not there's a question. I'm sorry that I hesitated with the questions I remember and the first, you know,

what's the first, but the general to be able to be what you know? That's what you're going to do you. That's right. Exactly.

It's like all the importance malorusement. It's really trice and I, it's so and I think

that's so and I think there's people who, who, who, who, who,

who, who, that even some people that I'm beautiful and that when I'm lead

but it's like if I'm like I'm if you're if you're talking if you're that's not that I'm not

like I'm not that's not I'm like you think it's true but you're saying it's false but you I'm not

I'm not I'm probably probably that I'm probably that that it would be eventually to be able to

my time my head my brain my my brain and that I would have to tap this

trail that systematically at every time. But it because it should create

there because it we're in we're like, we're like a problem because it will

come in a little and then someone you know, you know, so it's sure that if

you say no, and we don't you know, when you think you think that

it's, it's, it's, for the people who the people who people who

people how we get to how to doce that. And there is the

chame that try to to try to I'll try to be I'm really like a

responsibility inver me, but also over the people I'm in who I'm in to get

to get to people, and I'm to get to and I'm to do you think it's counterproductive

and I'm really me engage like, I want, in the things that I'm in my

life, I want to get to to get to be, and I'm to say, when you

when you said, you when you're saying, you you're trying, you've reached to be fired,

of you I want to be able to I'm afraid to be able to and not just by a part of

what I'm about to how I'm like I'm I'm in the I'm in I'm in I'm in

I'm not why I'm always that that's always that's that's before you get to

be a time? Is that you have been a more I'm the very much of the acalmy that

I've been in pretty, I've had pretty, you know, We've been talking about, goodso, goodsohn,

since I've had my diagnostics of neurodivergence, and since that I've really, my health

in mind, because I'm in a relation same also, a relation amorous, a new a good

relationship with my sister, I've been my son, I'm ennou to plenty of fashion. And I think

that, even if sometimes I feel, I think, in the big picture, I'm

advance, and I without more of peace that I'm sure you know,

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nor ever and over the other, and the other are not in before you. Exactly. Because it's exigent to be in front

if you rebutt and you repose, and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the gross vague, there.

Really, really. But, but, it's good to hear, to tell, that, I think,

to say, I think there's that, I think that's probably, probably, probably, probably,

rest in more, but, but, With the time, I I arrive to tracet we're talking about we're talking about

a new trail that's not my trail habitual of, I'm con, I'm not belle yeah, yeah, and you're

yeah, and you see that, it's a different, you know, you're saying, you're not, you're not you're not

you're not, you know, and I know, I know, I know, I know, there are some to do you're

doing that, to accomplish that without, to, you know, to the exterior. And in fact, I work a lot for that come to the interior,

justly, and for not me to crosser to people that I like like I'm, like, like, it's like it, but it's a matter really

definitely a lot, to have, like, some, um, there, some, very, very,

significant, you're, a relation um, that me, which me, which me, which me,

I'm, to, to me, and when you're, you've been done, you've said, to let's say,

of neurodivergence, is, is, is, is, is that has, reassured to know that.

Really? But, but seriously. Really, yes. Yes, yes. I've

heard recently an expert to say, but it's to have to have these responses when we're

at the age adult, for have to have to be to have a lot of people,

and for it's it's disculable enormously and it's that apply

plenty of response. It's why I agree to my my Psi

me I'll remember often also. You know, like, you'd have could be more react to

be more impulsive in a situation, but you'll be that you're not, you're this issue that, that's not your fault,

you're in that's not that's not to say, and let's you know and let's you know

there's there's an explanation, in fact. It's like, it's like I've had a genoo-croche

because I'm new, and that I'm quite, I'm quite, I can't do it, I can't do it,

but I can't always have that that's that's going to come in a time

and that you know, to do you to do to go to do you, to go a

burnout, an old burnout. I was like, I'm at a state

where I was more able to have because I didn't know

to do and I know, whatever what I did in my life,

I was always the same errors and and I always always

always always at end end And then all of what I've done to me and do not. So, what's, what I'm doing?

I'm really lost. And there's, there's there, there's, who are, who are on these pistes, on these pistons, and for real,

people who have changed my life, there, I mean, there, there, a woman, in particular, that's, we're going to,

we'll make, that question, that's the, that's the, that's the person, what has done the difference in your life?

Well, there are There are many people, but this woman, there's a woman who has written an in in fact who has written on the reason

she said, she had been to read one of my text that I had published in a recue or it's a text in the case

I'm in a question completely decomplexed. You know, all the pensions that my bit, and that I'm honed to

tell to people, I had written in this text that. And she she had been to me to ask,

and she said how, of what you talk, and she said, well, I'm, I'm,

I'm autistic, I'm neurodivergent, and I'm exactly all what you've decried in your text. And I had never thought to, and even that I'd obstinate on the coup, I said, no, really not. And finally, she said, no, but

read more there's because what we know. But we're going to know more, there's plenty of, there's plenty of initiatives for democratize the knowledge about that, but I had no idea, and she said, go, go and go to informer,

and finally I'm, finally, I'm reconnoed, and I'm going to go to help me, because to have the diagnosis, it's changed a lot of things. It's that you understand that you're different, your vision is different,

and there's an explanation to that. And you can return to see, see, you can return the people of your life that's already and you can revisit

your life with, you know, like you know, if you're more, is, is it has an impression that you're more different over to because you're

because you have some things that they're explaining or really, really. And the things are more,

said on the co, also, I'm in I'm going to I'm going to because I'm

going to do you know, no, ben't, no, no, I'm doing, I'm

refouled, I'm again, I'm still, my routine had to be with the

school, and there was a whole, I'm completely, I'm a day, I was supposed

to go to the school, I didn't for the cause of the grave, and it

has been disorganized completely. It's like my world is like, my world for a

afue of what's what is that's like, well, let's come on, so I'm sorry, so I'm sorry,

it's not great, not grave, not grave, I accumulated. Now I'm playing for a minute, and I did,

I said, yeah, I'm going, and I'm saying, it's correct, it's correct, it's correct, it's going to be done,

that's, so, so, I'd have constructed a monument, with this story, you know, in the

not it's not really, but it's really, but for you, but for you, but for you, but for you,

it's, for the other also. It's something, when your on your and in the past it's like

we can imagine that's like, you know, if there's a day, we're an end up, yes, there's no,

I'm doing, I'm defy, but that's it so, it's good to know, so that's it's a time, to know,

to know, and to be there where you're to be there in fact, where it's where it's so that's

never better than what you have been able to do you, do you do you do you're just the wood, that's just a

very wood. Yes, it's a very wood. It's very wood. It's very very low.

I'm not sure that with the quantity of the quantity of I've invested in therapy and in

diagnostics and the work and the people who help and the people who I think I'll ever

as bad that I'm and you're too food and is is that still

still? It's never never. And I think so I think about that

because there's like a recrudescence, we're like, with the era, the epoch, I'm question a lot, and I think

that's difficult to be very to be able to because it's not a individual, but it's used an article, just the Marissa Gregoe in the press

there's the last I thought that she she's really really about it's, it's clearly there's there

there's different of mode there in there, and I feel that certain period, justly with

Ozampic and it's a past replonged. And, yeah, I've really the difficulty

to be in talking, you know, it's like a issue that I've been a so it's

so it difficult to be it because I don't know what's that I'm really,

but it could have even a influence. Oh, definitivement, definitely. And there

a couple weeks, after a concert, I met a young woman who had

a concert and she had been to be able to she, she'd be like, but she would she

she, she, she, she, she, she, she'd be, she's because she's a trouble

alimenter, and we're to get to a fruit, and she, she, she, because she,

because it's too difficult for her. And it, it's so it's so much made of pain, it,

it's a I was so much Fetelyte and in the time I knew exactly what she

had to I'm in it's a question, it's not a little a culture

that's a kind of a power a power that that is denutri

it it's it's and I feel that in having

interiorized this culture that I can do do domage

so it's really hard to be to be to have

been to talk, I think, and it's that time I'm full to gym and I'm in

to get to gym for having some to get to get to and in the moment it's like that

I'm to empower in some sort my soci of my image

corporal I'm doing the I'm you're to talk you're that's

that's that's you're a control on the appearance of your but

even not I'm just I'm because I'm against the Patriarcha

and I'm being in being strong. You know, I'm made these scenarios in my head that's

empowering, but they're not axed on the quantity of food that I eat on my weight on the balance.

Yeah, and the musculation is good. I'm I'm doing. It's good. It's good for my

brain, and I'm I'm sure to get to do that and I'm content because my

hormones of joy are active and there I'm because I Josie the vigor

has said often has often it accessed because, especially for the women,

when she had been to have done a lot, we wanted to get a lot of muskled, we'll have

to be able to make a masculine for the time. And she said, now, we discover the benefits of the musculation.

First, it's a problem, it doesn't it's a there's a there's a lot of things in

that's not that's all, it's all right, it's, it's all right the calories, we're refis, we're fine,

we're fine, and now, the At the manipulation, at least, it's sane. I think that, I think that I've reached to, malgrary all the

thoughts that I'm abit, and malgris that I've been to do, I think I've managed to have a,

to have a mode of life that, not who, I like that to say control, because I have the impression

that it's the idea, just the, it's not the control. It's like, I don't know it's not how

it's, but it's it's something that's respond to your need to start to repartire,

it's a appease something. It's a place to, at what, at what, at a

example, on a scene, all that that's all right to do you do you, is, is there,

is there, is a place, it's a place, it's a place, it's a way,

it's a one of the reasons for the because, while I don't get to

chially on my job, and I just, I'm doing, I'm chattain,

I'm I want to do you do other other I'm still, I'm still the joy pure to be on a scene.

I'm also I'm trying the I'm in the same with the same thing that's incredible what we know, but

it's true that on a scene there's something that's that's all that's all it's pretty

and I'm and I'm profoundly accepted. It's weird because it's not all of

people that I know are coming for they're they're coming for me

but I have the impression that we can live our real, we're in fact, and I think that's the case for them also, and I receive

in this sense that, of the people who are, I'm not thinking to my life, I ried, I've done,

I've been and I processed some, I'm trying to my view, I think really that we think we're

something, and I'm really, also, my public count really for me, and I'm

to their far to them to their to have to their to get

they're to be in fact, you know, they're not to be able to be able to I'm not

I'm not that's a way with the people about me. I think it's very important for me.

Maybe maybe that people are really, but I feel really that the scene

me apporte a space of liberty and the acceptance. You, sometimes I do some things

on stuff, oh my dear, we're like I'm so with my band, there's

some of a group of discussion, and sometimes the group of discussion and then you know of something of a nizue that I said

during the show, you know, but it's light, it's really, it's vivant, and it's imperfect, and for a

time, you're capable to go, that's able to that, I think, yeah, yeah.

Is it in a zone where you're secure, where the place, where the scene, you know,

but you know, but you know that's, you know, but cell, but cell, but they're come

for you want to be a good communion really, really, really, the scene

that's to do you see that to do you know, is it is, is, is it

is, you know, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm in this, I'm saying, you

have said, you know, it's like, you've made, an little tourn, we're doing we're going to

see on on the where I'm sometimes, and I'm like, wow, okay, you know,

you know, you know, there's, you know, there's a public, there, there, reaction of the

people who that's... Yeah, it's... A one year, I've

a year, it's a galate of Pierre Ebert, and we had made a sketch

that you have Florence Lompry, Mark Bopopre and Pierre and we and we were at

Quebec in a theater and you know, we'd heard the people, we'd

say, okay, but I can't understand that we do know that

I've made four minutes and me with them, and you it's

to those other who were at board, I was like the fact of the winter that arrived at but I'm saying okay,

I just, I just, I just, just, it's the adrenaline really, and particularly to make a

really, I'm, I think, I'm more, I think, more than I'm on the other, when I'm sure when I'm sorry,

a new joke, I like that, I'm so to try to me to make a word, because I'm doing my band also,

I want to talk about and that's they're surprised, I want to be surprised, and I'm I just

surprone the public because I have a lot of public but I'm there's a lot intense that come to be in a show

and I'm mean I'm saying you're in two, three Guy Laine Saille, I'm like I'm like I'm trying to

try to get to get a new thing and for real the feeling to make to make rire it's

it's so it's incredible so that so that's therapeutic yeah yeah I'm I think you

I'm I'm at there's a place you know there you're on there you you're at pose.

Yes. In case, you're a almost 90% post. It's good because when you know,

it's a chance. You know, you've taken a little pull of recule. It's right. You know,

I think you have to find it's, it's, these things that that that we're captive.

You know, where I can put me to put on to put on to do you do the side,

but it's extraordinary. Nive yellow. You can you're I'll give four,

if you please. You're respond to one and I'll choice, I mean.

I'm a lot. Well, like that all the world who come here this is a

objective, so there's no idea to do you in the place. At which where you're

in the place you have been to get you felt destabilized? What is you have not

received to your parents and that's that's that's the most best

that long I'm the thing. I'm again want to to

I'm going to be I'm going to go to I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm

I'm sorry what you know you're not you know we're talking we're doing I'm doing some bad

things on I mean I'm a bad bad and I'm very critical to see why I'm at me

and I see not why but I I've always had always had been an

impression or an intuition that I didn't exactly what my parents had wanted that I'd that I'd

that I'd corresponded not. And it's not something that necessarily like it has not been

named. And it's a real because my last album is really that the core of

the subject my album is is is called, is if someone

me was, I have found plenty of archives of my my own my cany, I re-lue

my bulletin, I read my bulletin, I I read the video, cassette, of my for trying to understand, why, justly, I had this suffering there in the entire, you know, it's a thing

that we've seen a lot, re-viewed the, re-wear the infant in us, and, like, to give me to give them of the love, and I think that I'm not

not quite I'm sure, I think I'm, I think I'm not that I'm

that I'm that I'm trying to, I'm trying my life to be different for

to be accepted. I think my particularities have not been not been too,

I'm remember when I when I'm normally the lecture I'm like the

writing, I'm very curious, I were very geek when I was a child, I was very solitaire also.

I had some of the school. I was not, I was just a lot. I was not a reject. I've been a lot of intimidation, but the end of the same I was I was in my life, I was in my affairs. And I think that I'd have

been to be for who I was, in fact. And not like, it's a, it's a, Stefani and like that, it would have to correct it, would have an normality to attain.

Exactly. Exactly. And I think that I always felt that I'm sure I'm in

and when I think I think I'm I'm in I'm sure, I think objectively I'm also,

because I had a TDAH non-diagnostiqued and other things. I'd cryed, I'm,

look me, look me, and it's a bit like, you're like, you're like, maybe you, like,

maybe, rest in your thing, and do you think, so I think I've got in sent

that, and it's really not voluntary of their part, and it's even not something that's even not something that's,

you're not, you know not, probably, probably, you know, I don't, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm trying, because in the time, if you've had been in a time, it would be able, it,

well, you know, there's a people, when they're there, because now, we're more, we're just,

we're just, when they're when they're the, the, the, the, the neuropsycho who,

they're doing, they're, they're, they're, okay, but it's, If your parents If you had seen, if you

had seen, I'm, I have a child with a TDAH and if we had seen, she, she, she's,

she has said, it's the, it's the idea, it's what, she said, what she, when she, the first

rendezvous, you know, the parents depart, to get, to get, to get to the

end of the time, she, how it's, how it's how it's how it's how it's

after it, and she, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she,

she's, She said, she's a little like, she's like, she's a minute, and she was intelligent.

Because she she said, well, with you all you're all you're to know, you're doing,

you're trying, you know, you're doing, it's like, you know, and you know, you think you're not

intelligent? So you see, after that, we've changed, we're said, well,

Collin, she, she, she has seen she she, she, she,

what's, what's, what's what's, what's what's what's what's,

It's for that I'm very sensible, when we're not diagnostic, it's difficult for the parents, it's difficult for the infant, because there's person who understands what's going to be it's going to be really, and

thank you, thank you, thank you, your own, you, it's so, it's so, it's so, like, you know, what's what you'd be, because she

had been trying to, because, I, you know, me to be because I'm still in the I'm not intelligent.

I think also that I'm a niceoes because I'm a way to intellectualize the life that's not

the same than the way and I think I'm a crush, always, always, even if I

have the diagnostic now, but it's like anchored in me. I'm my

my wife me who had said, she'd have the time that you have to have to be

the time, to end of the not very. Yeah. Because she said, there's a there's a difference,

I want to understand what's what you're doing? We're just... We're at at the pharmacy before all the

character for having different? Yeah, and she's She's like, she's like, she's like, she's like,

she's like, she said, well, she said, certainly, we're going to do it and she,

she, she, I didn't in her, I, she, I'd know, she, she,

it's apparent not. It's after that when you see, okay, it's true, it's true that it's true that

it's true that it's true it's true, it's true it's always that we're that we're that we're

okay, the anxiety came to that when she when she was when it's young, there's

there's maybe, now it's now that she's been she's been and she can't

people who is able to emanciped but I seriously it had been not a diagnostic

it would not been the same suite. And neither part, not more, because even the school, it's adapt also now, you,

when you know, when you're a diagnostic, so the parents, there are people, they're not, they're going,

they're going, and I'm, it's all over the medication also, and it was his choice, and, you know, it's not

very, I think, when we're not any kind of diagnostic and that we're different, because we're not in the

thing, it's not for there, and it's not for anything, there's not for to take on the consumption because they have been

of a medication and they're they're trying the medication and they comprehend not what's what's going to what's going to

necessarily? Oh, really, really, really, really. And, you know, even, in my rapport, that's in certain

affairs, in certain things, I'm objectively, you know, I'm an TDAH so, so I'm there's a issue,

but on certain affairs, my intelligence has pique, at some place, but, but, in my

head, I'm a cruch, because I have with certain things. Like when something I'm interested

not, it's a don't know I'm not, it's a problem of it's a I'm trying to

know, but I'm thinking, and I'm my whole, I had super good

note, but I had always the impression of having nothing and that all the

whole and that all of me really, it's hard to get to it to

my head. Yeah, but it's probably, as you it's, like you

it's a other way, you know, your your your and your

and especially the TDAH are to be attired to be what he am,

what he passion that I'm that's so I'm so you and then with your

parents how it so I'm I'm I'm not a relationship with my

pair but with my mother it's that's it's because

my my mother I'm don't say that she has a

sometimes the parents I'm sometimes I sometimes I say sometimes I'm say perhaps

I don't know. There's there's a lot of a chance that's one of you know of

that's it's not it's not I think it's not 100% but it there's

there's there's there's but my my my mother often I often I

say that I'm serve some I'm there and I'm that's

true like I'm I'm in a turn on a turn to

maybe I'm I'm to her, directly. And then I go to the tune and I said,

I'm going to I'm saying, oh, well, yeah, well, I'm saying, well, I'm the impression that I'm

more, I'm like my marriage, and I'm like my mom that's not, you're, that, you're, too, it's, that, you're, and, you, , vaugh, you know, , would be, you know, that's, you're, that's, you're to go to find

of the things, and to getterry all the little bit bit bit we're in

we're trying to do you know, all the name all, it's a, it's not, there's

there. There's not, no, no, it's always in the truth, we're doing the real

to find, we're fooier to do the and I'm that my mother do this,

because ultimately, I'd ultimately, I'm that when we she's just that, she's just that,

she's just it's moment, and I've lived that in a while I think I'm doing

to do you think that I'm in the I'm in that I'm sure we'll see that you do you're

having a conversation? Well, it's for that. It's for that. Honestly,

I, I'll say, I'm going to do it with my mother, this game, it's because

she has chosen, to what he has been to say, the day, the day, the landmine,

the landmine, you can have to be it's to listen, without and judge, it's interrompe. Exactly.

It's it's difficult to say, she'll say, she's about where you're by who's where we're

that's, so, so, so, have you have you have a regret, by example? It's,

it's, it's over the thing, it's, that's the thing, it's, but it's both, quite,

this voluntary to want to know to know her marriage, does she, she, she,

no, she, she, she, she, she, she, it's Rammuzki, it's that, we're so, it's difficult because it's by the telephone

and we're not often. You know, we're trying to be to be planning as a voyage in the last year so that we did a week of a while and then we're

there, it's not a bad sense. But I think that my mother me tombe because she makes she like, why y'all!

It's at me that I'm talking when my mom me tombe these nears. And it's for that also that sometimes I've

want to be to let's be to say, like, we'd be to be to be to be

to be sure, it's because in the phone, we're seeing that's that's it's like,

it's like, it's like something to for you understand, it's really, it's really, my son,

and I've already had a therapy like a couple, but of a seor, and I

think that a day, I'd like a time, I'm doing this year for Canal

L'A last year, tell me, tell me, female, with Lori, oh, I'm a full.

Oh, we, we, five couples with these different who are who are still

six seven in a house. They're going to be able to some time of the time. It's been

incredible like experience. Incredible. And I'm I'm still close to the family there.

And it's be able to see the life that has evolved they're they're always there's always

there there's always there. And then I'm I'm going to get to the, I'm kept always

But how does it, she she doesn't understand, but then she's, Mary Claude, this girl, she has just a mother, she has, point. You know,

but I'm, but I don't know, she's not, she doesn't, she has been just to delia the language that the

things are named, and, there's, there's there's often the women, because it's often

they've been reprojected to their and if you have said, I'm trying, but the mother,

but the mother, I think, she's not, she's not, I'm, like, I'm Interpoled it's for

that's over the discussion. In other it's, you know, it's not we can't say, we can't say,

but it's, but it's it's kind of some of, that's that they had with, yeah,

and then yeah, and then a lot of it was to be easy, there were there'd

be a lot, there were a bit of chican, a bit, but that's, it's, it's,

it's part of the processus, but my God, that it's It's worth the pen. I've seen

some of the women changed. I'm no more to believe. Because there's nothing to worse than you. We know, we're

talking about before the things enfooed, the things non-dye. And it's very that

the women, what I, what I'm seeing, we, we're very exigent on our mothers.

And in my case, it's bizarre because that, in the fact, by the

whole, my story family, it's to my part that I'm want

but I'm doing but I'm quite a matter to that's a quite a just,

but it's like the femininity or the feminism in we have to say, well, why you're

having to let's that go to have to have to be all the women, all the people,

especially this generation that they've raised almost they're they're doing in tabarwett

yeah, the mors on the barwet barwet. I, I, I,

I've found that, I'd say, well, I've been like, I've got something in, you know,

you'd have to be like that, you're doing to protect more. Yeah, there's like something of

that. And there's, we're, we know, we're we're doing the pastes of the pastes, and you're like,

oh, okay, so it's said, it's all of the case, it's a that's all right, it's like,

it's like, it's like a newseur, it's like that's not that's like the relationship that

the relationship, but you're, it's like the relationship mere-fe You know, it's more an equal to equal, we

we're in a man, the mother can't show that's the question

that I'm in the question that's what you're the most thing that's I think. I think

the most thing that's that's the most that's also what I'm the more more,

you know, we're talking from the things I mean, but I'm sometimes to be

fair of me, I think really that I'm really that's a person and

And we've said, that's a person open of the people, to be able to

be able to be in the same in fact. We've already said that it was easy

to be accepted by me. And it's really, I'm really, I'm really to represent that,

to be able to be there people who are there's people that are there, there people who want to

be able to I want to be amy but I'm in my presence and I think fundamentally

I'm a person who's a person who is able to understand your whole the whole attente that I'm over the person

that is before me is that they're saying the reality and that's she's she's

capable to amy plenty of sorts of people I'm able to have to people I mean, it's

I'm I'm I'm all the world that is true that's it's great to have a

capacity to have a place for that Yeah, you know, you're right, you're right, there's

there's there, there's a reason, it's that's true that's a place, yeah,

you're not obstrued completely, you know, you, you've been you've been to think,

you're a thought, but your and liberal? It's true. And I'm quite Rancunier also.

That's a thing that we'll say and that's true, and that's that's going to say,

I can have been really, really, really, and someone, and someone could have been a

mal-mened, and I'm going to get to the bra, sometimes too, also.

That's is a thing that I have that I'm always ready to attend the other

I'm, and sometimes I'm make clacky the other jule, it's a problem. But,

yes, it is very that I'm a place. I'm a place, and I'm going to be honest, open,

again one way, I'm trying to get to be able to the little bibates, and after that we're going to be in a

new base. But there's there's a same to have to have to have been to be able to this.

Exactly, because there there's the people that there's there can't not necessarily to be

there. And it sometimes it's not look, it's like, it's said that we'll go but not in the moment where the other would say, I'm not good, there's not, I'm not going to,

I'm going to, the person is like, no, I'm afraid of this. Oh, I'm going to go. That's not going to be like, huh? You're just so, I'd have been a vare of wine,

he'd have said, an other way, I'd have done not, you know, it's corred, I've had the impression to be front of the directress. Well, I'm, I'm like I'm like that, it's like,

because in the phone, if you're regular not it's a lack of clarity Yeah, and it's pretty much too of place

I'm not quite able to pass to other things I'm sure I'm sure but I'm very controlling

but I'm because you're it's a issue. Oh, yeah, so when we explain,

that's a it's a caprice, it's a no, it's a thing, it's but it's

I'm still to get to get to their rhythm because my rhythm is not very commode

and with your chum how it's What do you think? My charm, he's like me, so I think that's aided, and I'd even that's

even the more when there's a chican, it's me that's not ready to and it's like, and it's like, that's a thing, that's a

thing that's, it's a time that's the time that you don't, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, I never,

I've never, to do it, to someone like, and I think that's reciprocal. So, that's a man. It's really

a friend, and it's really someone with who, It's someone with who I I'm really also and you're a artist in the artis

in the art, but it's not that a trap, well, a little bit, but in the case, he's not in the middle of the music, and when I do that, the people

are sourced, but he's all completely of what I'm, it's not negative. Because he he likes the person, he likes to you,

he has your heart, I think that at plenty of moments in my life, I'm feeling even if it

maybe not necessarily that, but I feel used for some, for the, for, the people who have been put,

who were in quite, and they had used to they wanted, I'm often like that, especially in a moment of my

life where I had more more of my presence, let's on, and I had more opportunity. He, it's zero

that, but it's not that he's not that he's not that he's not that you're not really not,

it's not, it's that it's a person, it's who you are in your own And it's not what you do, it's what you do. Exactly.

I could, like, change completely of the work, well, I'm doing, in this moment, but it's very poor important for him, what I'm doing,

really. Niveau-Rose. Yes. You'll have to be on three, so you'll play. We'd say it for a long time

that we're on your level there, but yeah, again, again, again, again,

not a lot of not a non, but it's perfect, it's good. Is that, you will

to understand, why I'll ask this question is that is that someone is that someone

is that you arrive to share to share to share to be your what's

what is your point? I think I'll choose the death.

What is your report with the death? I'm, I'm not fear to

I'm I'm fear to be to be and after my

death and it's really bizarre I know at

how the point the people live that. I don't know if you've seen that, but I'm like, we're like,

I'm doing that I'm in trying to let's a thing, a trace in someone to my

life. And I think that all what I do in the life, all what I aspire,

my career, my my my music, it's, it's, it's, these things

that I've made to be made, and I think it's really, because I don't know,

if I'm I'm not something that's not something that I live or not live. But is you have the

impression that we've already about you have been because when is we see,

there's like a link with what you have to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I think that just the fact to feel that I'm not been seen and

am in conditionally when I had been when I probably know that, it's like

if I'm not, in my head, if I'm not the love inconditional, of the person who are supposed me imed inconditionally,

where is where is the where I'm not, you know, I'm not that I'm never a artist if I've

resented the acceptation inconditional. I don't, I've never encountered an artist who have received the

love inconditional. It's bizarre, uh, we'd say we're trying that a little of all

that over, you know, we're really who is, we're we're going to how we're

we're in our our part of the end up there's a other boot there's a person who

I'm, I'm quite, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm like you, do you know, is what you

think, to say, I'm going to say, it's like a revenge, to not have existed

rapidly? Yes, I think it's definitely a, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, to prove or I will you you're not right even

mort, I should be there yeah, yeah. And I think really to this question that also

because I know, I risk to not have an child, it's not quite like sure in

my head that I don't have not and I'm yeah, and I was like,

who's who's who is who what's who's if I'm not there person to

be people to be really, I'm really I really I'm really afraid of being I'm afraid of

to be abandoned it's like it's really really live in me for a person super solitaire

I'm not I'm not a life social very active, I'm often all alone and I'm

always but I'm always a little voice that you keep guard the people

because of I'm part of being being because I'm afraid of being

alone or you're sure. You're will rest something of me after my because my

parents are my parents are going to see that their are going to their And he's the mayor of

several people Exactly He said He said that He said that he's He used to be And I reutilized This question

In my song Is that someone Because I think My Life also I've cherished to It's always The person That person who

Will regulate the Problem of The person That person who Aided All the person And the person Don't want

To say You've been You've been Your Wove Your Wants Your Battain The Justice Atal

you've arrived in your life and you said at 18 years I'd like to partire with my son, I'd like to guard my sister so there's something extremely maternal there in. Yeah. Also young than that. And even my mother,

she said, she had already that I had like been a little the mother of my son. And I don't know if my sister

has thought that. I think my she has not that. Because we have our vision of what what's what is when it's

we're doing? We have three years. It's true. You know, we can't be able to the vision of because it's

her vision at the age with the parents that she had at that age, the parents evolved also. It's not

the same. And then every child has a relationship. We have not the same trauma

on the same parents, really not. No. But I think that, I think that I've been,

I've been the mother of my sister, and I think, ah, you know, it's,

it's for that also that I've felt that I felt that I didn't get that's A thing

which my mother and that's a little and that when my daughter is made

that I'm not a because it's classic, you know, all the people, when there's a

little brother, a little daughter we're going to get a but I'm I've been more

more intensely than the middle, and that I try to try that that I'm that I'm

that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that's not my parents, you know, my, my little

she's, it's not you're not, the right to do do that because that little sister

doesn't know, or so the great-sor to be able to get to get to do you know, and that's

really a question, you know, there's a lot of people who have been, I'm like, I've been like, I'm

being able to and being an infant, you know, I'm super-sensible, and I'm even not, you can't even

to be able to my emotions, and my TDAH, just I've learned to manage all, you know, when I'm not the

tools that I have already, I can even imagine It was in the Because you're disorganized

Oh my my God completely You know, it's sure that's it's it's a

you're at at that age but you're But without but in the time without without without

without It's so it's neither you know no your person

so it's a shock when a other often when you change yeah

my my face and my wife is in my wife and when you're

having to have to when you when you're when you're with your when you you'll be,

you'll be like a grand. I mean, it was fascinated when I'm going to get to be a child,

and I'm going to say, she, she, she, she's the time, you know, that's your little baby,

but when the other arrive, it that's, it's like, but the other, he's like, if the

parent, we're, well, it's, it's, well, the, the great

but the, but the, but, but, but, but, but, it's a,

the great, it's a bit, to do, for the , and you want exist in the regard

of the other like you like that when you're not a lot but we're not to be it's normal

we're talking and say well you're well you're and we're getting with a baby wow wow wow

when you when you imagine being being well you're you're in having been you're in

you know you're you can't you can't you can't you can't it's it's extremely

difficult I'm it's too to be conscious that these moments there are, will

let's a on the own life on their life it's a little thing, it's it's a few when you know,

when you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm going to be anguassant but it,

but I'm going to be my mother had accrued to my my brother, my, my, it's,

my, it's really complex the accouement, but for my brother, it's been at this is, we'd have to

arrive there, we're in the apartment, and these those were on creved the night, they're

they're connier at the house. They've been done with me what's what we what's the what I'm going to be in

my, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in the morning morning morning, I'm in the table with a

house with a house and I'm and I saw over the and I didn't know what I'm still, but you don't know it's even

you've got even not idea how you you're in you're in trying to manage to and I'm in

my parents are there, I'm talking to when they're when they're when they're my mom she's a

She had to cucked an little girl. I was a little little

if you know, I'm in when I'm when I'm having to have been I'm in

a abandon but it's a year and it's there's people, and it's that it

was a year, I mentioned, my parents they don't have never to say that he's in

panace, what's you know, but I'm like I'm so you're like imagine when when this

sentiment that is often and often or in very bad age when you're

even not the parole to understand. Even when she's it's crimed. Aye, aye, a aye, aye.

We're we're saying we're going to get to abandoning, I think. So you know, that's

that's that's when your time, yeah, really. I'm a question,

it's really, it's not about with your anecdote, but when I was a bit,

I was doing the patinage artistic, and my mom made made by the

cut out of the mat and a car and for my son had to

pen, even if my did not of patinage artistic, they were made to make a

costume for not that she's not to get a and I'm like, it's my it's my own

it's like, you know, that's not aftance a lot, you know, because it's not, you know, I'm sorry, you, today that I imagine, the little moor of three-year, she, she'd have capote, you know,

the jimaux-gimels, it's difficult. These couples, like, they're identical, they're like, they're able to unique, there, they're not, they're who's sure, they're going to be their unicited, at the whole, yeah, yeah, it's sure.

So, you're still, you've seen, of these moments, yeah, I'm sorry, I had not the right to go to camp of vacants, because, like, my sister, she wanted to, you know, when I'd invite some, it'd, you'd like my son,

it'd be with us, And it's really something that's, and poor my sister, it's not of her fault,

she's not she, she, I'm afraid when she's, she's not she's not to be

She's not she's she's she's she's she she's she may

it's quite the inverse that's introduced in, I think I think

I'm, I think I'm also I'm sometimes, I'm still

my role so it's equilibrary, that she has made, because we're made, and we're doing

there's a thing that's that's, that were in that was, and that we had just never re-questioned,

that now, now we've questioned, and that's not, it's not, it's not, it's, we're doing,

we're two adults, and the difference of age of three year, has been, and my sister, she's so,

I'm, she, she, I'm impression too, in the years, like, to,

and she also, and she's she's teaching in adaptation scolair, she has she has been to teach, and she has she has been good, I know she has been good, she has

she has been incredible, she has when you say, she's when you're courageous to turn to nes to her to do my sister, she's a other level,

she has two and she'll part the morning, at an she's, she, she at like 11 o'clock she's relive the long-deme, she'll

have done, you have two shifts, yeah, two shifts, the shift of the show, the show, the sort of that, and I think that, I think that's

that, I feel really hot. I think I'm, you know, I'm trying to get into the detail, because I think it, we've been doing, but, you know, we've vuced when we're really, there, these affairs rough. And when I look, today, by rapport to what

she's like, how, how, how, we've done? How, she's, I've done? I'm, I'm not. Like, to come, to, how, it's a bonnour today, how she has been

how it's being made, how it's been able, how it's powerful, how it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

when you're when you're when you're going to when you're when we're doing the harmonies of your voice, when we're

this complementarity that's two voices that's two voices that their tonality, in their, what's what's what's what you

have felt when you've started with your son? When we're primarily, we've had shant on the same

that we're young, but there I didn't count of the chance, and the thing

special that we have, but at age adult, when we had re-compancy to chant to be

years, that I had a time to be a personer a self,

and I know how to be doing it to be we're doing, for the

radio social, and I was felt like, it was like a revelation like, oh, all this time

I think that it was that that I had that I'm like the trail it's illuminated almost we're going to

we're saying we're saying we're saying oh my God but it's that it's that that we have that we have

all right and we're all right we're like it's like an intuition really really

really forth and all all the doors are open it's like if it had made a tour

of magic it's really weird. I can understand that with what you mean I'm saying,

without you know, I'm saying not that you don't know that if you're having used these things difficult

on the time we're that to make these two voles there's something of the one of

that one of that person that person that can person of can't you know when you

when we when we do the one and that one and that's that's what it's

explain more this link that it's like it's almost this unicy that you

have been together. Yeah, it's like a, it's like, it's like if we're

just like, we're and we've decided to to traverse the chant of cendr and

and, and, to, to, to, to, to, to,

what we have been to, to be able to to be to support, to pass it,

to, to briser like bris all the predictions of how it would be

to start this story that, we know really, and we're not really, to see what,

what it was the symbolically to signer and over and against all, and to be

to be to be to be but, yeah, yeah, it's like, I think

we're, we've been we've so, we've got someone in the life,

we had, we're still that you're you're sure you're sure you're sure, you're

sure you know, I'm sure that's all the life in their like, yeah, you're

you're doing your best of your I'm so I'm sure that it's for that it's for that

it's not it's sometimes not not be to be able to they're like,

hey, my privileges are immense and these sometimes I'm not the capacity to me

to make count. It's fool. But I like the impression that you'll

have more more. I think also, yeah, I think really. You've

did you do you're a more with you and the time also. The time to be

to appease a lot of things, the time we're even especially when we're

when we do you face like we when we when we face in our

pardon when we and there's there's there there's a there

deposed probably and that you will be more clear, you will, you will be able to see that there are people

who watch never of their life, they're all the they've seen what you know, you know, you know what you

have to be, yeah, but I'm still that's an idea that that's a and I'm saying that

I'm not in my coff, and that's, I'm not what I mean? You know, so you

don't, you're, you're you're never, because to you're because you

work I'm really really really really, I'm I know that I'm able to say I'm resilient.

But I'm saying, yeah, but I have the key in my package. There are that they don't not that cladolette. Well, he's can't, can't even the

package. Yes, it is a matter some of I'm going to say, you're that I'm going to say, you're not

getting to you, it's a right, you're saying it's right, you're doing, so focus on all what you're

on what you're doing, if we've got this interview this interview there's a 10 years is that would be

the same in 2016 in 2016 for example? No. No, really not. Oh my God,

no. What's that's what I'm different? I'd be more in

I don't I'm I don't I'm I'm saying I'm more to be

to the people who they will be me am I'm am

is that I'm do it is that I do play is there there are

people can't say of these things and also is that is that I'm

really when I'm placed like that I'm doing my double manton so I'm so that I'm

not so I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm always I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure

I'm sure it's quite quite but there there was there was a filter

on the filter of the feel like there's a bit because of all the

what you do you do that's what you You know, it's a lot, you know, before to arrive, you know, you know,

before to arrive, it's a lot of going to inflate like that, you imagine, there, you know, there, you know, I've got a filter, I think,

that's a, and that, yeah, but that's it's sane, yeah, it's simple, because, you, it's with your chum

that you seem to say, with him, I'm myself, all the time, all the time, it's so, you're not,

but that's, it's, that's, it's, right. You're right. You've added a lot of

new to you're doing you know, you know, you said I've the key maybe that's maybe that's

not so evident to find out there's a yeah, there had a couple of, there was a couple of cohenry that's the top

yeah it's so it'd quite that you probably you know, level

iras and it's on probably a year I'm gonna you're you're gonna four

if you're oh my no it's not no no Well, no, but you're not, it's quite, it's a bit, quite.

What place to play the fantasize in your imagine? We'll come to like that. Preferer you seduire or

to be seduire? Is you comfortable in the sphere of the intimacyity? And what's what you have reigned to say,

on the sexuality at 20 time? I'll try to be comfortable in the sphere of the intimacyity.

Perfect. Because it myroate, a trick which we've talked a little more too,

you'd say, is, is able to be able to, you know, to let's go. And I

realized that I'm that the sexuality I think I'm saying that

there's all the time it's insistent I'm still in trying to question

my my brain my my many of a lot of and I

realize that the sexuality is like the scene, one of the only

where I'm where I'm where I'm to let's I'm and to be in

my car also. That's a thing that's my people are my people who are always

we're always never seen soul. Even if I I don't look I'm always in control.

I'll never my control. I don't if it's my fashion to gery

the alcohol but I think really that I have a problem to always to always

stay like my façate is my façate I I'm not, I'm not my foe,

the showre where the people are like, wow, dance on the bar, desabies, see lends to

the other in the other in front, I'm not, you know, to be doing to do you do it,

but it's like I'm like, I'm like, I'm, all the people, all the

people are being responsible, I'm responsible, of me and other, and I'm really not

much of course, to be able to I'm too, you I'm much, I'm not the game, the thing,

the thing, it's very cerebral, very intellectual. I'm at my friends. I'm at my friends.

I'm going to talk about the constitution and the new new to see, I'm still, I'm always in the intellect

and in the control. And the sexuality is an place where where I get to let's go to say.

And it's really precious for me. And it's not all the time. It's some time. It's

strange also because, I'm certainly conscious always of my car, and I'm very,

I'm a I'm a I'm in the but not in the sexuality, it's bizarre. There's there's

in the sexuality you're liberal. Yeah, yeah. You're love the resented. Yeah.

And that, I imagine, as, like you say, it's, like you can't

to make your post, you let's to let's because you're in 3D

in trying to think to I'm at, I'm too to be because you're

with someone that's with someone that's And it's really not always been like that. You know,

by rapport to pler or I've really, really, a desire of pler very, very important,

too important, like, for long time, and, and, and to always, and at a certain moment

of my life, it was really, really, in my 20thene, it was a much,

like, I want to start with the the more good, the guy the the most

of success, I'd try to me prove that I had a value by the I'm in the

I'm in who I'm sure there. And it's still there, I'm still all the time, and I'm

like I'm I'm trying to goce by that's a but I'm trying to that's transfer a little that.

It's not is, is I'm if I'm I'm more so, but it's much more

that than the in the loss of the life is in the liberty in the

confidence also, and not in the game not in the performance yeah, yeah,

you're not to perform your life no, and it's changement but it but it's

that, that's being in this zone that's so that's that's so that's

being with to get a lot that's completely liberal and that your head

is on and that can be pass you not even no sign necessarily that's

that's a do you know it's true it's true and you're totally reason because the scene I'm

with the people who people who they know they know really they me know but not

a 100 so there there's always we we've we've lived something but

oh but if he he would see I know if you know it I'm always you know

you're always the impression that's you want not the real visage yeah

I'm like the fear of to be masked all the time he thinks that I'm fine but in the fact I'm not

really fine it's a thing, it's a thing that's really that's a speciality is a space where it's not

that's not that and more when you're in a relation stable, serious, that the person that's had

seen plurry, she's seen in all sorts of circumstances and she she's kind of

it's kind of full that. But it's because we're not the, it's like if it's like

if you it's like there's a be a good regard on you that you know a one of

you know a million of time. You know, it's that so, so it's it's so

because when you're in love with someone and you love you know, you know, and it's not

just in your case, in many times when I don't know I'm saying, I'm trying to don't, I'm

don't, I'm know, I'm to get in question. You know, the love is, it's the entirety of the person,

it's the experience, It's hard to define in the love but when you it's a lot of when you're when you're

when you feel like you feel like that it's not that's what that's that's what that's

the standard that I pose on me it's even not the standard that I really because

I like people that I think the people that I know that's the little

don't a little don't I'm not the person not the person not the

the perfection. It's a matter. And you're not. You're trying the perfection for you. And I think not that

be able. It's a very weird. I like the people that I think I think really, I think beautiful.

It's like 47 years, 58, 18, 18, 18, there are there are

there people that I'm really that's but the standards that I pose to me,

it's not the same that I'm for the other, you know, it's, yeah.

The day, the day, the day, you think what you have to do you

have to you're to do you know, you know, you know, and you know,

when you think to think to your body, the manner that's a man

that's good, sometimes, yeah, and there a thing, there's a thing

past, it's really really, I've made a out, some, the

vatement, in the which I didn't not 100 well, but I'm like,

I'm made that that. And when I was on scene, I said, it's terminated, then, never, never, never, I'll never, I'm going to

be able to be able to physically, not by the amount, but just, like I'm not never, in these vets of these vets.

And I'm saying, the more important, it's to be comfortable because I want to move. And that's a thing that I had not explored

before, like, like, like, I'd have never, I'd ever think of my life.

It's true, I said, I'm, my chum, I've got that I'm I'm better my cardio, because there's sometimes I dance, and I'm

on, you dance on the scene, and you're like, you're like, oh, yeah, I'm like a bow. It's like, it's a lot. It's not, you know, like, I, yeah, I, I, yeah, I'm... Yes, I think, but

I think so much more, and I'm like, I'm happy to have my car. Yeah, and if you start to dance, it's because you're good. You're right. It's because you

see, dance is a great liberty that we're doing, especially to dance to dance, before to dance, It's good, you know, it's contagious. You know, the dance is I feel so that's extraordinary.

It's exutory, it's liberator. And it's not cerebral. Again, once, we're not in the control. When we dance really, according to

our body move over the, we're not in our What's the place, it's a place, it's soye liberal. Yes,

there's no person who will judge someone who will judge someone who's like, okay, wow, we're there, we're there,

so, so, you have plenty of little moments, there. Really. See, I see I'm, you're

doing that? Really. It's good? Really, really. Yeah. You're both. You're right. Dernier question, opto-resso.

What is the Petit Stefani would say of the woman that she's given. Oh, it me touch

so much. I think that the little it's good that we're that. I think

the little Stephanie, she'll have been not. I think that when I was I was I'd say I'd say I'd

I'd say I'd have to do with all this but it's impossible it's not accessible for me the rest of the rest of my, the rest of it. And, and yet, not only I've realized, but I've

passed, and in this moment I feel, you know, with my etudes and all, I feel that I'm even right to, like, a, like, a second life, and

then I'd never to accomplish a million of what I accomplished. And,

you know, I'm part of the Gazpizis, my sister and my sister, and I,

just that, it's a move difficult, you know, to get his milieu, to, to demanaging

in a town that we're not, I'm not to live. I'm not to live.

I didn't, I'm not to know how I'm trying to to take the metro. You know, to think to,

I'm part, with my sack, and I'm I'm playing the whole for the whole, and I'm, I'm,

I'm out there, for real, you know, I'm trying to exist in the place, and then, and I'm really,

really, I'm not, I'm not the person who has the most of the talent, I, I'm,

I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, you're, I'm part of not a lot thing,

honestly, yeah, I think she'd be she'd be sure and she'll evenry not really not in fact She'd be

She'd I think she'd She'd, she'd What would, she'd She'd be the She'd She'd She'd

She'd To have To have To have really To be Really Who she

She'll She'd And that She'd And that's It's like It's It's

really simple it's even not who I've seen who I've seen with who I've what I'm

what I'm what I'm accomplished professionally it's to have to have to exist

to be honest and to be of an being the people don't know not fie are still

so so it so it's like it it's like it redone your

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I think that you're doing that's this little that that's a really that really really

really really because to be able to be able to be able to to be nuded to to be in

the sense it's it's power to be very thank thank

so thank you a new we're going to go away we're going before to start to start

before we're not not having to this today thank you thank you thank you to thank you and thank you

and thank you thank you I'm sure that we're marked by this episode and we're we're doing to see to

see the next episode bye bye all everybody this episode was presented by Karin Jonka

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