Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #158 - Katrine Sansregret | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

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at the time after a week, I'm saying, okay, she has something, when she says, when she has started, after that, when she had

to come to to chant these proper composition. I thought that it would be kind of kind of a

form of courage of saying, okay, I want, I want to the people who know that my

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reunied at the perseverance to the time, well, it's long time.

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Yeah, I thought not me to be in my life. I thought that I'm a few

solid, I thought she'd be a point, and it It's not I'll

I'm never even if you're going to be I'm always said in my life, I'm going to know the last year. after my parkour, in certain, I was super feeble emotionally, it's normal, I

I think we can't... You can't have to be the fatigue. Yeah, it's that. The fatigue and all, but I'm

in the bad patterns, I'm not, there's like nothing that has been able to be reconstruct like,

all it's like, and there, I've been really at my limit, and it's that I've

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Oh, whoa! So, she is before me. I'm going to enter to to go. I have heard to let me

it's not a twelfly that's a person who will rest in the universe mediatic, in the universe

cultural, in the world public. It's a young woman, have a number of

talent. For me, it's an artist multidisciplinary and that has the don't to

come to come to we're not where it not where it's not it's not she makes

resentire the emotions. She has a to facilitate to to beiculing the emotions.

And that's not done to the world. So, welcome, Catherine, without regret. Hello, thank you.

I'm very much. I'm so I'm trying to in my TV. I'm so, I'm all to do it.

And I'm just going to my TV and I'm saying, wow, you have you know, you know,

I've got a personality strong. For me, that's very positive. Yes, for me also.

You know, you're an personality strong, with a talent incredible, and we'd say, okay, she's aligning for that that's all right, and then

I'm in the same time. And, like, so how do you? It's very well. I'm very well, I'm so much content to be here. It's like a rave. I'm like to listen. I'm really sure. I'm not sure. Because we're crossed, and I've said, it's happened to do to do you

to do this? And I thought that your reaction, she'll be so so so it's like to come, I'm doing

to do what? You said I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm like, I'm sorry.

Oh, my God. And then your life with all, because he happens because he

happened, but it's at an academy, I imagine, there's an avant and there's an

after, yeah, and it's what the after? Well, the after, he is

charged, charge in emotion, really really much, it's, it's rockambolels

it these months of remiss in question or to me to be made to make sure that we're in fact that we're in front

that's a lot of people, and it's like to be posed this question. I'm doing to do it. I'm doing

I'm quite. Before to return to Star Academy, it's that you wanted to and you didn't, and you posed not

not, not to do you, I'd not, I think the milieu public, it's not to pose to

ask to be questions different. I had never knew the popularity and to be recognized in the eyes of the people.

And, I'm brought a lot of pressure, and not of the people, I think it's me that's my

that the fact that the people that the people that's, like, okay, you know, you know, to get the,

the time, you know, to get at the good place, at the good moment to do do it's something that we're

doing on my parkour at Starac also, I'm, I'm not, very, very, right,

and I'm not very, and I'm a good, you're a good, a good, a good, good,

a good, a good, good, a good, too good, so it's it's,

so, it's, it's, I'm in , I'm not, I'm to do,

and I'm to make, to be really, it's the character, she's a woman, and she's

a girl and she's a woman, that's, and there's long time to be in the

, by the , it's been in a bit, she, they're ben intense,

she, I'd say, feminists, like something of something of a lot of negative and intense. So, I'm so much

long time in the that that that was 100% in me. But, today I'm now that I'm

that's a recone that, malgrary the fact that I'm like, hey, I'm right to assume.

Yeah, because even when you try that it was, I think it so, well,

you know, you know, you can't, you know, because your personality resorted, but it's

but it's it's very that you're you're able to that young there's a there's a there's a yeah, you know,

I'm like, I think that's like, I think, I'm like, I'm more more young, and when there's more young,

like, more young than more than I who come and they're like, it's like, I'm sure,

I'm like, yes, because I'm at time that I'd have wanted, you, you know, last time

to, and bring like 100% of me, to be 100% to, it's true that,

and I'm there's been so much of the way to have been to cross these women at the retreat or who have all who have all right, they've been saying, I'd have wanted to be like, oh, my God, ouch, yeah. Yeah, yeah, but because it's, you know, it's an inspiration for many, like, and at the academy, there's a sure that you've been a model, like, for her.

Yeah, it's a fool. Really, I see on the cotidian, I see on the radio social, there's a lot of young people who's identifiable to And it's a privilege, but I'm also like a... A responsibility. Yeah.

I'm at, I'm at, I'm at, I'm, I'm at the front, in the front of all the fun, of all. And I'm saying, I'm the model of these young females, so I'm not so I'm not so much more than for these young females, to, to have a model

that's responsible, and that he's, who is, who is going to go back, but he's, you know, that's, you know, I want to be able to doubt, but... Is that you're a lot of performance?

Oh, yes, because there, we're like you would have that's always, you know,

I think that we're very, so much, so, and, yeah, I'm,

yeah, I'm, I'm a , I'm, I'm also, I'm pose a question,

and, and I'm my poor regard, let's, I'm, certainly, I'm all

my first critic, and my peer critic, you, but after that,

I, how I, how I can say, I'm at the worst critic, but in the same time, I'm really delicate inver myself, that's super important for me. I recognize the fact that I'm the person

the most important of my life, in the sense of if I there's no there's been around to me that's that you have to be able to

do you? I'm trying. Ah, I'm really? I'm very nervous. It's your it's your going to partire with.

It's the proof that you've well, you know the regs, but I tell you know the rules, but I'm

sure you're question of order generic, questions jaute, it comes to have more of your story,

it's a question that's more specific, level rose, it's some at the which we have reflis,

it's a question that are the questions that can't even, I mean, I mean, to say,

more personal to you, at you know, at you know, it's these questions of order sensual,

sexual, and the last question, It's the question optor-resso, which is a question, I think a few it's a bit of a resum of we're saying,

I'd say that would be able to be to ask if we're not not doing. It's like if you're like, you're going to talk to,

and we'll more understand your response because we're in the game. So, here's the Joker. If you

ever, you think it's going to go too long, in one of the questions that's

you're to answer for all the question, you make the question. by the verps, you can it's just

you can't you can't believe that I can't really think I'm not I'm trying to my car, I'm in a couple,

I'll leave, that this game, that's the original so you can't give them on five, yeah, they're more

they're glissant also when we're changing the table the cards that I made and they were because the other was more

because the first, there were to I'm there for I'm there for you pass attention

well that you do you get to do you do you're I never. Okay.

I've never done that. You'd have to do that? Yes. I'll have to have done it. I'll tell you. I'll go, okay? You'll have to choose one.

You'll have to answer. You'll have to choose one. What place you in your life? What is that is that you're vulnerable? What's important you accord you

to regard of the other? What person has been significant in your life and on which trait of character has you due to work?

Okay. Hey, I have an impression it's a question of life, more. No, no, no, no, no, no,

there's not no, no, there's not a performance. There's not no way to no way a good

or a bad, but I think I want to have to go with a place to have a

life. I think it like the she's like the join, perfect. I have just got

to say, and I, um, well, one, it's super important for me,

um, on It would say the friends in my life is separated, like in section. And there are my friends that I like to call my friends of life, who are really the same I've been a child, we've seen before, five, six years, and that are still in my life today. Honestly, it's the people the most important of my life

because it's the cell who are known when I'm like, Catherine, a child, like, naive and not a personality public, who I've known really in the essential of who I am. And it's still there's some of the good friends and they're

and they're and they're and they're there. I'm how many of four. I'm four. The friends who are like

from there and they've known in all these fos, who know, they've known all my

relations, and they've really all new. I'm four. It's, you know, I think that it's of my

person the most important of my life because I think, that, But, it's just

what's the person that it's the sense, it's those who can't you can't you're able to

who can't be able to to be able to look at the people, you know, when you're when you

don't know, you know, that you're that's you're doing, you're and you're and you're

because we don't accept that, because we're not not, to make, sometimes, to make

to make sure, to make sure, but in fact, it's the bianveillance. Yes, Really, really, really, really.

But it's the person of who I'd probably all the advice of course, it's the person that I'd like to do you, if I had to do, I see I'm trying to, I'm at time, I'd say, oh, my daughter,

you'd have not reconno, I'd, you know, there'd have a shock, but, at least, they'd have had a cat that's the cat that we've seen at the TV, and I was,

you've tried to get the contact with her, can't, oh, God, for many, for years, during the exterior,

we, we know, we'd have an appell, you know, a day, you know, That's one minute. You've got to say, I'm in need,

I'm in need, I'm in here. Especially if there's a camera that's in it's in time, we're in time, we're doing,

we're not going to talk about to talk about it to say, so, so, because we have a day of more than the

TV. Oh, yeah, I'm sure, there's a thing, we're not to have to hear of

saying, I'm going to say, I'm there's not, you know, I'd be able to say, I'd beguated,

it's impoverable, I don't know if my calls on the montage because we just tell them, we're just telling us, you know. But, but, yeah, it's just, the person that, it's like the people who can't even, and I'm happy, I'm from where. You know, there's one who abidt on my

rue, in the infance, you know, my parents, his parents, and it was our little affair to march, and to be in half of these chimes, we'd, we'd have to come to these chimes, we'd have been some of our own, we've put the bus, collared, and all of our your infance, and I'll have all my life. I've got to have all right. I've got these

friends that who are excessively important. And what I think I think very difficult with the years,

and the fact that my my universe change by her, they're still at university, they're at

their middle of the work, or she's what I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm

think I'm difficult, that when we're able to be capable to be reciproc, and be able to be able to to be able to, hey, how you go?

Because they're, they're so they're really impressed by what I'm and they're just that I'm talking to me, they're just that I'm talking to,

and they're just, what you live this is what you see what, you know, you know, you know, I'm going, I'm going to

the regard of the public, I'm all the you know, I'm at the way, it's a thing, it's, that's just that what you say,

is that, she says, it, she, it's you see, you're not, or, you're, exactly, or,

but she'll see and as like she know, they're doing they're doing to find out

all the time yeah, absolutely, it's that, the reality change, yeah, yeah,

everything, she changed, honestly, she had a last time she said to she said, she said,

oh, she's like, oh, she's the friend, she's, like, she's the same like,

like, yeah, she's the , like, yeah, she's my , she's my ,

but, like, when we were young, we're doing stress, like, we're going to that's all

my name, you know, but it's true, it's a change the perspective, the regard like the

people have on the I'm in, I'm, I'm, a center of their life also,

it's a really, a impact like more that we can be the thing, that's something

that I'm at the point it was to do the whole world to me, and that all the world

would be it's being constantly so that's something that I think it's something that's

something that's it's not after that even if she she's me watch my

publiclyly it's not the reality it's what it's a public but exactly because I

imagine that you know when you know when you're certainly you're on a

scene you're you're I mean it's it's so it's so

it's so you're so you're that you're you're you're you're No, but it's

that, you know, I can understand, it's hard to not to not talk to be a

while you're quite a other side of the other way, there's not necessarily all the time that's not,

it's not, it's not, it's the time and it that's that that we create the great high of adrenaline

but after that I'm at my and I'm like, I'm doing like all I'm

a bit bit kind of, we're a kind of I'm to be able to talk to because I'm like,

I know, I know, I know I'm going to see that I'm going on the way how you know, how you go

your relationship, how about your family? It's very difficult to to grow in this milieu and that and that

we continue to to understand to be in the time, but I think that it's my person the most important.

And after that, I get all the aspect of the aspect of the issue, I'm many of who

I partage my environment, and the music, and the public, and that, after that, are so much important because we're in the branch of anxie, where, when I chope with these persons,

as, it's just, in the regard, we're seeing, we know, we're doing, we know, we know, we, I'm not need to be, in long and in large, that we can, we just understand the reality of the other, and so, it's , you know, sometimes, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,

, to, to, to, to, to, to, , to, to, you, okay, I'm , okay, I'm, okay, I'm you've got to it's a place, it's a real-be-be-posed it's a

little bit of it's a little it's a lot of it's a lot of it's hard, we're doing, very, very, very, very, very,

very, very, very far, exactly, exactly, but, but, you're, how do you consider, is you consider

as an artist multidisciplinary? Uh, not, do all, um, it's a good question,

I'm an impression that will be perfection in the time and in the years, I'm considered as, like a

like a author, compositor, and I'm like I'm going to because it's like I'm not because multidisner

it's like like, is there do you have instruments? Yeah, yeah, I'm supposed

to the piano. Yeah, so, you know, you're already you're pretty said, you're pianists

yeah, so you're so you're so, you the music, yeah, the composition yeah,

it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of it, you know, you're saying, Yeah. You play two instruments,

the voice, the piano? Yeah, absolutely. It's true. I had not, I had not seen this. You know,

when, you know, when, you know, the writing, it's a part of, it's true, in the fact, I'm doing, and the,

I'm doing, my disciples, but yeah, it's for that I'm saying, I'd like, how I'm going to see, I'm going to

see, I'm going to I'm going, we're, we start to discover, we're, and it's just a debut,

yeah, yeah, because I, I mean I mean that's that's not around

I'm talking there's a other things, there's other like that's to play? No. Oh,

no. No. No, no, no, no. You know, that's, it's something that I

I'd be drastically not to serious it. It's something we'd say that I totally

fear. After that, I'd not say never, I'm not to go in the

never, because we're not, it's really see what what's what's

what's it's not it's not it's not after that I'm doing I'm interpreting you know

I'm interpreting and it's a sort of something that I'm something I have done and I'm

like that I'm not so I'm not but I am interpreted when the song

would be me rejoin if it's a vehicle if it's something that I could be

vehicle ah I'm interpretate this song when when I

when I made in something that I it's it's it's So, no, not so

not so, it's more... But there, these amies that that have from the milieu of the music also? Yes,

well, we're doing the music we're shant and we're we're doing we're doing and that's also it's very

that's very and we're we're talking to we're we're talking, and we're we're in we're in

we're we're doing, he's alliter, you you're totally of your when you're practice, you know, when you receive, when you receive, you respond your

courier, you're at your own, and when it becomes difficult, well, you're all alone at your, and when we're all in front to meet our reality, we're like, hey, we're all at all to find it difficult, but, finally, we're seeing so, we're at a call to us between us, and to be able to be, and to say, you're not all alone, I'm in a pass of Mard, you, my, see, it's not going to be, my, so, I'm not, my, si, I'm not, this month, this, my see, like...

Yeah, because it's that also the reality. Yes. The revert, it's not always glamour. No.

And financially, you can never know. That's, you know, to be at a contract, to be at the page, it's,

that we can, see, we can't do see what to see what that's going to be able to create

something. You know, you know, you know, you're, you know, you're, you know,

and I think that's important to have these vagues, if we're always, all the time everywhere,

the We've seen, like we've we've seen, we've understood, we've seen, we're doing,

you know, I'm in time as a time as a time, it's important, to be able to create these

vague that, okay, there I'm an album that there's an album to get on a turn, okay,

there, it's intense, we're all, I'm everywhere, I'm, I'm everywhere, I feel, you know,

but after when I'm retombe in period of the period of it's there's normal,

you know, But you know, it's to let us to get to get it's normal if I'm

all the time that's it's quite a bit more more effemar so. So, like,

when you're there some you can't be able to but, but those that we

can't you know, they have these functions different in my life. You have

do you have you party? Yes, yes, yes, but that's it's all the

Okay, so it's with all the that you can do do you Yeah, I'm at my party, and all my my friends,

they're not these friends, they're not not like if there's not like if I'm in some, it's not like the place

on the one that I was doing, they had to their on the road, they're they're all

their branch different, but they're they're all they're all because of me, because my party,

I'm like, it's like, all the people that I'm all, I'm not, I'm not, like these

people with these people, a night with with my family. My parents are that are so,

oh, my God. But when you see all this gang, that it's a gang in the phone that's you that's your

that's a portrait of that. You mean that's a year, and after my April, I received

for the first of my house, it's new so it's the first time in my house that

was my party to party to and then it was like my my house

plenty of people that I'm and like, all all all

all, I think there's not a better sentiment I mean, okay, I'm like, okay,

I'm going to receive I love, the house and the house is always open, and then to

like, but it's magnificent, and it's all the good world, you know, it's normal

it's like with me, you know, I think we connect with the people around us but what

my parents are so, my parents are that my family of my family, that I'm include all

the world, and my parents, they can often finish a party of beer on the table

that's like, like, all the whole all the whole of it's a

really, you know, you know, you know, it's me that's not this guy that,

it's a it's beautiful that, that you that you do you do it, that's important.

I think that's I'm sure, I love, that's I love. And then sometimes it's

really, I have a friend when I had been a surprise, and we

had been on the stage because there there's there are the people, there's

after she was going to be she's gone to her and she's she went the time look at the look at the

mosaic of people who in the sense she said you could not you could not think you're not

because there people are different but that it's a gang and I'm yeah it's it's very that they're different

like you that's my family that's my family of that's my family of my family of my

work that's but you but in but in when you when they're they're

they're all they're all I think that's the top of all of all this, to see, to come full-connected in a show of a show. Is it so bad? Oh, God.

It's beautiful when they say, we're going to go ahead. Oh, yeah, okay, you're going to be doing it. It's a malade. I think so. I'm a full.

Yeah, but it's because they have a point in common. Yes. That's just, but I'll be to pose a question. Maybe you're talking. I don't know. On what trait of character

has you due to work? There are you one? Yes, I'd like I'd say that there are There are On which there's character I've got to do I've done to try to There are

There's a patience There's what, so He's what, so he revine often Some, there's There's, you know, they're They're putting the nerves They're trying to ponies the nerve

But you're not coleric No, not at all. Oh, I'm not too of patience. Well, I can't ask you to ask you.

No, but I think I'd think I'd think that's maybe, let's say, let's,

the, the, no, I want, I'm trying a question, I know there's a

question, we're trying to, you're too patient. But, well, I'd say that I'd say, the traits of

character, I've had to try to to work, to make my It's not these traits of

character that was negative to be negative to be negative against me to say no yeah and I'm

and I'm doing like that yeah is that is that sometimes you have the impression you're saying

it's not it's not it's not but yeah but yeah but yeah there

obviously that I know that I don't to say to say really what I'm

and what I'm and it's more more I'm I'm fear of blesses

constantly. I can not bless someone. Even if I see the situation the person has a

malagy, I'm going to take all the way to say to it's a way to that it's

that it makes a make a put in the too like I I'm not to make

these points on the table, I'm I'm not, so I think it's a trait

of character inver me I'm I'm, I think it's to be inver me

that I'm, I'm, well, I'm, well, I'm, well, present. It's a trait of character that has a lot of influence on your relations, yeah.

Yeah, because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, there are, there's,

there's, there's, there's, there's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it, and, I'm, I can, I'm, the co- , the co-co-character, that if I

feel that you profit of me too long I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm

just like it's just like it's like you know you can't you make fine yeah but

it's not there's not there's not no no when I know when I get that you

get my limit but it's you're at potentially without you don't don't even

because I don't don't do you know so if does that sometimes you can

have to be sournoise. You know, in the sense that you don't know that's in it's a lot, but you know,

it's it's a matter of, it's I'm in the impression that people the people,

I'm I'm saying, well, I'm saying, well, I'm quite, but I'm not, but

I imagine that no. It's so, because there there's person in my head,

and there person in my car, so, so I'm so, so, so,

so I'm, but, and I, you, I'm an immense patience, like, it's,

It can do you do with me, like, I've been an immense patience, but when you attain the limit, like, I can really tear the plug. Your own, your own, it's not to run in your limit. Yes. Because it's lor what you say,

you know, in the sense that during the same, you've seen, you know, some of the situations that can be frustrating. Yeah. It's accumul, it, but it's

a place in your head, while that's accumul, I'm... I'm so... I'm so much affably. In the past, I'm...

I'm so much affably, and I'm so... I've made that there's some the bad

relationships because it's the bad relationships it's it's on a

whole on a on your on your mood and on your and on just on

you on you have a really a big impact and

there I mean there I don't come with the time if I

had if I had difficulty to respond to my tach, and my, to my, at my,

at my, my, at my, my, a, I'm just fatigued, you know, but I'm not the same in life, like, I'm in life, like, I'm in front of, and I'm glad to do today, like,

I love to do, like, I'm doing, so, so, so I think there's a lot of people who can't see. Yes, and I think that it's,

to come to, what, place to bring an amit in my life, it's not just positive, no plus, you know, you know, I'm just, you know,

but I'm a person who makes a menace also, like, If it fit not, and that I feel like that it, I'm not, I'm not, I'm a bad, it's

a deil, it's always a deemate, but I'm not to say, this relation, that, not fit more. But I, you're trying to do that, you're having to do my limits. That's, and you're paying me to pay, you know, it's not,

you know, because you're done too long. Yeah, I've attained my limit at several moments, you know, so I think, So I think that today I'm with this vehicle

and after that it's superbe that I'm still young for to have this vehicle that and I'm real realise to me

but it's so. I've attained my limit at many times I've left some people to take

a lot of when there had not had been not had been there but today

I'm like I'm I think at the I'm there's like oh my my

it can't it's be good, it can't be toxic, it can't be unseeing, that's at the extreme, you know. But to learn to say, no, it's important. It's so,

so, so, so, so, so, I'd say, I'd think that's strange, knowing the, the fee of character that I'm,

you'd, you'd, I'd, like, I'd, like, no, no, but it's because the character,

it's for a cause, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, but when you want to,

to talk, you, it's, a other register. Yeah. But at a time, it's a sense, it's a

sense. You know, I'm a young girl who's in a few that's not in my life, and then

after that I'm in the place of the fact, all that's all that's a work that's a

work that's this thing, you know, this is, you it's, you know, it's always it's always kind of, I

mean, like, but it's like, it's like, it's kind of, it's like, it's like, say no.

When you're not when you're to say, we're not always we're not, but when something you say why I just

why I just you know, and then you rest with that and you're and you're already had already had already

you've been so that you know, that's just that you know, and your and your friends are

you're talking I'm really I'm really because you're because you're afraid of because you get to

you decewee what you decewee what's what's the what's Honestly, I've done I've had to have to do that

Full, full, full, this point, there. There's There's a But after that But there's Yeah, there's Yeah, I'm

Yeah, I'm to get at some of the Moverise relations that I've had But there's Yeah, there's a show

the night, like, there's a something that I could say, or fair, or, it's so

important for me that, that the people in a and, let's see, after that, there's a

there, there's a little show, oh my God, do, there's, there's something that I'm

you can't say, there's something that I've been something that I'm doing, like, I'm sure it's super anxiogen

like, really, really, but I'm, I'm trying, I'm trying, I try to demand

to do, because at the final, I control not, the opinion of the people. And it's

made, and we will never to everyone. Exactly. Like, I don't not,

I don't know, and we're so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, I think I, you know, I'm a way clear that's sure that it's not to be able to people. And I think

that artistically, in time as chantees, the power are assumed, more you know what you know what you want to be prone in as

an artist, but more there's a lot to call it far to do because they're telling you are telling us

and it's clear, and there are there other who wouldr don't know of your message. Exactly.

But in the same, I think, it's for that you want to do because what you mean to

say, is your analysis is perfect. You know, we adder. Yes, it's so. We're adair to your value, we're to do you

propose. So, your value, you're not going to be changed to the same morning. No, my God. So we're

to see in what you do with her we know, we know, we're, we're going to we're in good direction. And that

from the part, it's important for you. Oh, yeah. So, then you're not to be afraid. At this

level that, zero. Like, at this level that, I'm, honestly, I go to

fron, for that. Full, full, full. Even if it's like these these like the social,

I can't I'm in front, I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm free because you're because you're

because you do it's like yeah, yeah, but we say it's like a, you're a

surface, you know, if you're on a party, you're you're doing you're free because

that's my person. It's like it's like, we're like very different. Yeah, because the

other also is the person. Yeah, in the the values that I defends, it's anchored in me. But it's a real that you say that, because I, I have one of my children,

the other way, who said that, that's, they'd rather than, they'd revisit it. But I was, well, don't. They're done complicated, I'm in the case. But because I never realized that we could re-fair so,

oh, yeah, and it, it's, it's, there's, some of my friends, where I'm not, with what you do, around an table, I'm, I'm,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you can't, that we have to this moment it would have

that would have their place and I'm there's a there's a shock there's a there's a brawl and it's like

they're like they know they know they're like they're like they're like why why yeah and that

that I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm not in with what you're saying but

let's just but I'm really not in a but I'm sorry in a story like that I'm like

oh my god you're intense I'm I'm just you're you're so, you're telling us.

But that it's not, and so, and I'm sorry, and then you're not like that you're going to think you're

mad at the, you know, you're saying, that's a thing, but I see, that's a very intense,

is that's that it's that provoked sometimes, in the regard in the regard of the other, it's,

it's probably being intense with the content, with the not just intense emotionally it's,

it's intense in your in your I think of the When I think I'm I'm a sure I'm

sure you're You've always You've always You've been like Yeah, In my family We're saying It's like the

No Regress It's like Good Chance To obstinate With a Like a family Am you? Do you

Abstin'i? Yes, I love, and me abstin' It's not me chicanan I'm I'm trying And I'm

Never. I'm abstin with Amin me some, amen me some, we're talking, we're We're debating,

I adore this Like, I would have liked do do right in the life full, full, full, full, full. I'm it,

it's some it's these things that have been that's not in a relation, because I'm for being in

relationship, I'm going to have been to say, I'm going to even if it's not the same than I,

I just that you're just that I'm just that and we're just that we're just we've got to we're just we're,

but I'm but I'm subcine, it's been like, yeah, yeah, I'm like,

no? And then, all the all the, all what I said it was the it was like there's a

there's a man who are there are in because they said that they'd say that yeah, like you know

yeah, yeah, perfect, you're right, you're right and you're right and say, but I'm like,

but it's very French in fact, this fashion oh, yeah, the French are like that

you can't be sure that you can be sure not fashed it's that they am

they're they're doing, but after that we're after that's after that's it's fine

yeah but it's it's right that's not all all the people who are there's a challenge

Ah, yeah, it's a very challenging yeah, yeah, discussing to say, you know, very dynamic, yeah,

I'm in a point, yeah, I'm I'm in a job of society, it's like, the debate, and like, and we're

doing it did you do you do do you do that in the school? No. She'd

have been there. I'm like, well, I'm so, well, I'm so, yeah,

so, yeah, but I think it's, it's, it's, it's important, it's,

It develops the intelligence, it develops the forms of intelligence. It's true that you're been good as an advocate. Oh, I'd have liked that. But it's not everyone who is pretty much like you, that's what,

I'm a little bit like, it's a bit more, okay, it's a lot of, it's like, it's not, it's like, but I mean, the life, it's profound, it's intense,

it's challenging, and if we're in on a conversation that I'm not with what he's discussed in some moment and if it comes to touch my

value, you will be able to say, like, I'm sorry, but I'm not at this moment, like I'm going to be. Are you interested

by the politics? Yes, I, yeah, I, I, let's, I'm de-laced the fact of, to really

really recherchercher to in the time, because I'm less the time, but at all the school, in all my course of

teleph, I'm, like, I'm had a proff, to follow to the field of the field, yeah, and every

It was maybe in the afternoon. Each of the beginning, he said, what's going to do. He's what in the world? Hey, I'm, I'm going to be, like, I'm going to be like, yeah, like, what's the thing? What's the thing?

It's really important and pertinent. So, I like that's interesting, it's sure. I'd have to be more the time. Yeah, but that's, you know, there's a time that's coming. Probably you've got to be at a job, but it's like all the most of time, but I mean that you're in front,

but I mean, it's when you're, Yeah. Some of you a theme that you interpels plus. But you're in the

core of your society, is what I'm in the cause. Is that you endos of the cause? Yes,

well, I'm not I'm in a cause of a cause of a cause of it's not because you

know, because I have an organization I'd say I'm would say that I'm dosed my cause.

Well, it's because you're all the once you're in something when you're It's so, I'm I've been

ported, I've done, you know, it's many times I've done in different organizations, and it's so it's

so much it's a moment of a moment of they've been there's people who's they're in,

I said, but, you know, why you do it doesn't, why, it's for who,

and he said, it's for me, that I do, it's for me that's a point that's I'm a part

because it's an engagement of benevolent, it's super important. And then, after that, it's it's a change the life of certain, but you first

to first make a lot of because you're really really a very good ambassador. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

you know, you know, this cause that, me, that I'm, I've been, I've been, I'm affiliated

to this cause that, who is the governor of the sport, and they're really, I'm at a

event when I had 13 when I just, you're, you know, it's, you're,

they're, they're, they're, that, they're, they're living with the and a disease.

And I was, I was like, I'm trying, I never had to ask me to ask, what I'm going to get to? And then I'm going to get at the hospital. Fought you, my parents, I have to work for me to see? Like, I'm like, I'm doing privileged, to be on earth, and to be

in health. And I've embarked at this age, and I've never, it's been, I've never quit this cause that because, and then, and I'm, like, I'm the most possible at each event. I mean, like, the plus

that I can, if it can be these things that I don't, who are who are trying to do with money, there's a family that I've met,

there's a family that's at my show in the end of you're like, you're going, you're having, and so that you're at your

point? Oh, my God, but I think that just important. We'd would all do that in a society.

We'd would be all for me, it's my philosophy, but we'd I would have all do you should always

to find the cause that you need to keep a cause, because when we do it's a bad place.

And it's a good place. And it's to be to be able to it's, it's, it makes part

of what I defend, I'm the place of the family, but I'm like to say, it's

the equality. It's not, it's not, we're not we're not see more other than person.

We're just be equal. Reconnew to our just a right, that's that

that all ego, and in a society, it's when we work in a time, we're more,

it's when we see, we're in the world, with the series of the Canadian, you know, we're all right,

and we're all over the whole, and it's fun, we're doing far. Yeah, because we, because we're

interrelied. Yeah, to put, to the queue, you, we're all, we're all, we're all,

we're all, we're all right, we're we're all, but it's that's a life, but, you know,

sometimes, you're sometimes, feminist, it's not always easy, like in the regard of the other, but, you,

it's not to be to be to be against something. No. It's not not. It's not

to be for a justice, like you said. And it's that the difference, because I always said, I'm always

that it's always, it's always, it's a matter. But I'm, I'm a minute, I'm a woman, I'm a woman, I'm

see where the problem, that's, it's, you know, I'm the right, and it's, and it's always been for the changements,

for the justice, for the equality. We're not for something. We're not against something. Exactly. We're against anything. We're for the changement. And again,

there, we're for it because if, if, then, and I, and I, and I'm at every show that I'm trying

to my song minable, that's part of the place of the family, and that I'm my speech for it,

at every I'm like, oh, like, like, I, like, I,

like, I'm, I'm, I'm all the time, I'm all the I'm just to be like, no, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, the women are important. We can't just stop. Exactly. We can't, like,

do you, like, do you, like, exactly, you're in trying, you're in positive, it's in a point, to, continue, but,

but, men, inab, there, you're in a reaction, no, no, no, no, but I'm,

I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, I'm, like, I was, and, like, it was certainly

intense, this song, like, it's a cry of the Choir, I've, like,

I've been like, I'm in the same, I'm in it's not, like, it's generated

like excessively many, there's a family, you know, some of the women who have been in the violence

conjugale, some of, there's, that I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm who's who

to receive this? It's ultra too personal, like, it had not to be not,

but you see what you provoked? Like, like, like, oh, okay,

and then, these women had the need to be the song, I've been re-engetted,

and the realtor with with you I'm doing, we're in a question of your career, and I'm like,

like, relax, it's a tune, like, and you're like, that's the tune of your career, it

will all change, and I'm like a song, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not

I'd not particularly that song that, and we're like two years, and in a

time to, I'm sure, to the time to the world chants far, That's going to do you have to do something When it's your tune

But we're saying it's Puth Martin, but I'm going to It's like it It's like you part It's part of your Crayon, your Pondy,

and there, it Reveen Yeah, Well, it's That's what you It's offered Yeah, when you You partage,

You're doing But you know, You know, You know, You know, you know, When the When, the Fembe

These Firm Tewing You know, What you say, What they Have to do What'd To have to do,

it's a chance, And the fact of to write, they're going to de-blocking something. It's true. So,

first, to it depose on a paper, you can, you know, you're not, you know, there's not

there's not there's not, you know, you can't, you know, I mean, you know, to say,

you know, I'm not to say, that you want to get to make some and you know, and what you

said, it's, it's, and it's so that's so that that's so that's so that's so

there's there's people who are exactly exactly that, that it was like the words on their suffrains,

and they're just, they're just to just listen to listen the song it's just to have

to have some to have been to have done to get to your own to get to get to it's not

and you're not a and you're you're you're doing you're you're you're

it's true that the music will make that the words of the song like you

with you with the intention you you're using I'm used to say when we

we're It's like, it's like, it's like, we're like to, like, to be intense. In music, it's just dear. The people, listen to the melody. It's, it's been able to, and so I'm on so, I've got to be able to me to say, that my song minedap, you know, the men, you know,

the men, you know, the classic, privileged, to come and me, to me say, your song minable, but it's so much, I'm like, oh, thank, thank, so, it's like, it's like, it, it's juster. in really in music he's

and I'm and I'm exactly the problem about the problematic of all I mean there's really there's superbe and I'm really

not everyone in the same but I'm the message goes really more long when it's melodious and that's

we can't it's often when you can when someone when you can't when you can't listen we can't

the time you sometimes we're we can't the words and we can't not the second or three-year. And imagine

when it's the suffering that you feel like to chant your your suffering? It's so. It's fool,

what it's that's it's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's magnificent this this

song. Niveauau Catherine, you can't give four if you please. You will

respond to a question and I will ask to ask you to pose also a question. It's the

and it there you there you me and there's there's perfect. Perfect.

Thank you. Thank you. no. What type of amoeuress are you? Oh. What

decision have you that's taken in your life? Tate is still

to not to not to be to see a heart? And what is your

definition of the anxiety? Mm. My dear, my, sort of

four good questions. You're don't choose one. Oh,

la, la, la, well, it's it has been a bad

so, oh, my dear, oh, my I'm going to go with, I think

it's the I think it's it's always to be able to be able to not to get to get to be

to be in the same I'm doing I'm doing the same that's the yeah, well

more more than other than it's sure it's sure it's true it's it's been

so that that comes the song minable literally it's it's there sometimes

in my young career because I have to the music because I 've done

nine years, and relatively professionally in the sense that I'm in the group,

and in the ensemble vocal, and we did a little to turn, we were in a little with the

female, I was in many, I had made many of young, I'm really,

I'm really to come in Quebec to do you to make to do the music, and I,

you, I've had been many more of more than that I would be

not in this the middle that, because I had not as a character,

because I didn't know to say what I'm to say, more young, I'm a

very, very, very, very, mature. I've got to my puberty,

very, very young in my life, and it did it not the cute. I'm not

a woman, mature, that had a voice grave, I was really different of the other,

and so that I didn't, all the time, all the time, do the is that, that you

that you had? My parents tried to you know, they'd they'd they'd

he'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd obviously,

I've had like a many of medical so, for far like Catherine,

she's like, is we stop, because, so, yeah, I'm

I'm gonna get like, you're getting like, like, too pretty, pretty,

pretty, so much, too quick, too really, and your , Well, no, well, no, well, no, no.

It's, it really been drastic in my life, and it was in a year? But you had at what age? I was in fourth year,

that's, it was really, really, really, super young. So, yeah, it's made in sort that I, like,

I've, like, I've been too rapidly a girl like, more vie who'd not with the

world of his age, like, I was, like, it was, it really not my

my universe and my my my my my my my my

mon taut my t' so it's so it's it's

it's so it to be so yeah yeah yeah I'm

said say that say that that that that that

had not that to to to to to say to

I had to I was long thought that I had nothing

to I had no of proposal, and like, I was,

I'm a woman, like, like, basic, and, like, I was

a lot of before I know, I'm a, I'm to do the music, but why?

Like, what's he will motivate to do what, it's and it

and it's that, because that's because today, we're because today,

I'm the vision is a bit clear, but not more than, past. I was not there, but

really not there. That was what the click? Honestly, the song Minable has really a gross impact when I've written these words and that's out of the people they've got approved these proposals

that. I've made it like, oh, I've got the right to me feel like that? It's really something. You're at the height. Well, to not to be to feel at the

height, it's an emotion that's valid, like. Yes, I understand. It's that, in the regard of those who are who are in the world. Exactly. There,

we're going to make the sense. I'm allowed to assume because I've seen that there was like a no

no, no, no, no, no, person, who they were and who

they had and that, my park, Asterac, honestly, it's like the moment of my

career where all all, had changed like, I, in my head,

you, for me, it was, like, a grand prod TV, I've really assumed

of proposal to assume my values, and I'm I'm telling oh, we'd like that, no,

I'm really really, I'm really to be like, ah, you know, I'm going to this,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, so in the coat of vestimentaire that, that's,

that in the side of song, that in the whole of all in many of the same

production with so, you know, with an lot of a group plateau like we're going to and the fact

to want to make my honest the first time the first time that's you know we're saying

that's what you're trying that you probably that's but you're that you're but I'm oh my

my God that's that's not what's not what's that it's not because when we

know when we're because when you know there's there's been there's there's been

there's especially when you you're It's all right? It's It's a prenton. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,

like, to look at an eye totally out of the exterior, yes, but, but I, wanted to, want to be... Is it, is it

your, it's not, to live... It's sure that we've got to win, a question, but... I was, I mean, to live this experience,

that, it's got to for you. Oh, yeah, definitely, I'd be on there, and I'm saying, I'm atten the,

the same, the same, on how many two weeks? Do you. Okay, the moiety. I'd go to me-aventure

and I'd be a year of like, it's like the at six, at eight, you'd check.

Yeah. I thought, I'd say, I'm not, I'm not like, oh my God, like, it's sure that

it's sure that it's sure that I'm going really not, I'm going to be a week six, I'd be a

week, I'd have been happy, I'd have been a few to be able to be super-rerererere

but I think my more great victory in my long long that's I'm going

to be chanted my song that I'm that I'm sure that's it's a clear,

it's not not really, I'm saying, I'm saying, I think, it's clear that it's

clear, so so it is important. But, oh, to the other of your voice,

but for me, for me, it's a hack, it's a casting. We're all

a casting around we, I'm, I'm just a author compositress, it's that

that I'm in the life, and I'm there for you show you're in so I'm so I'm so that you're going to be

the author, and that's what I'm doing what I'm in the way, it's that you're Catherine, I'm telling you

your time, you're the thing you're the first, you know, but it's sure when you know, they're all right

to say that to say to say, oh, she's to be able to be able to be telecharged my songs,

there had been there's been an effect instantane that's I'm the girl who's the girl, and he like my

songs, you know, so that's like you get to get got, you know, even when the prode,

you know, you're sure, you know, because that's, well, it's going to do what in the ear of public?

Yeah. And then after that, arrival in final, it was a song that was not

out of all, it was just inexistence so that the people don't know to be able to

see, and then, he said, yeah, we know, we know, we, you know,

you know, you know, like, you're like, you know, and we've got a song that's a

question, and I'm like, why? I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to start from here, and that's

she's going to say, she's she's she's not, if I'm with a perfo to be interprete, well,

the people, they're going to associate to a final, it's like, it's not the mine.

So, it's so much important for me, for me, for me, and I'm being,

like, I'm, like, I want, I want to, I want, my song,

my song, it's all. What's the going to do after, it will be able to it's like, you're in the

way, you're doing it's it's a idea, we're doing, we're doing, we're doing the whole, we were the end up,

we're going together, and we were going on we're going on some, we're going on some, we, we're

we're so we're so, and we're still, and our mother, our own our own, our own,

our more, our more, our own, our parents are They are, They are like, and that's I mean, I mean, like,

in the sense, he's been telling, they were too, in the past, we had come to be, like, to be, and they were,

and they were like, they were like, they're like, they're like, to be like, to talk to my mother, and she's

good, and they're so, they're quite, so, so, we're gonna make, we're doing, we're doing

we're doing, we're really, really, yeah, it's my sister, and it's my little sister

but this this woman has a little to say, and she has a maturity incredibly, like you,

you know, you're, you know, that's, like, for me, it's just my son,

we're at the same age, she has, she's, she's a age, she's crazy, and you're

you're music. Ah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you're, you know, we're able to partage together. When we talk to our projects,

we have about to share. And your how they've used to that? We're

we're doing the time the time. It's kind of a life of the exterior.

Here, there's there's many people who are there people who were

there were many of some change of some changements,

and some I'm I don't that I didn't I

infligate out in in in in Starac and

you we're saying to the blake in the family and all, but my parents

are given the parents of Catherine. They've lost their own and their personality and their

identity. Yes, like, the day or the day or the day and then I think they're

so they're really they're still very, and they they're that's not it's not

it's not grave but I think it that it had been it during the

part it's been many it's been many I don't know that in a time danger, there were there were in time

invite people to get to go ahead, you know, all the world they'd write up, they'd be able to all the time

during the season, he'd listenelelment, they were really too implicated, I'd be terribly too

a long for a month three months three months to tell you in some life, it's enough to

develop an an habitude yeah, it's full, like, he'd

to be stressed for you, you know? Honestly, I'd say, I'd say, I'd have been a misery, they've had a misery to traverse it. I think that, if we'd re-frey, we'd differently. And it's

not grave, we're, we're all super content, and I'm there's very content, and I've got because it's long time, it's, it, it's, it's, it, for your parents, who are not with you, but who, who, who, who, they want to see,

that they're not that at least. Yeah, they're not that, you know, my best, my best, my best, it's my number one, in all my life, it's my name number one, my mother, and the number of times in the season that I'm like, presentment, I just just need to her, I just, I'd just just be used to her, and she'd be there.

And why'd have time to be it? It'd have, although, the good news, oh, my God, in the pastime, I shone with Callum Skudgeon. So, so, my mother is the first person that I call it, all the time, for all. So, my pen, my deception, or my fears,

like, I had all the time to talk. And that, I'd say, that's my more my first time.

My mother, I'd talk about, I'm going to call out of time, I'm to call out of the time,

I'm going to be called a lot, I'm going to with that, I'm going to that, I'm going to,

oh, yeah, I'm going, I think, the thing, the thing, the,

For her, I imagine. Yeah. To be to be to live some talk and to be in talking to

she was in she'd be very difficult. My parents very, very, very, very, very, to me,

more pleurry at the screen. It's, like, it's really really a but it's to be

in my mare. I was probably with a case, and I'm not with a time, so that I'd

have had been to say, and then, like, what I was to say, that I can't say, that I'm

to say, when I'm when I'm mother, I'm not. I'm trying to say. So, all the I had I had to

say, all the time, it was a old woman, and I was going to and I'm going to and then today,

she's the access to the and then, but after that, when I'm coming, it's a

like, it's the I'm just content to it's just I'm not to be able to talk to

I'm, I'm going to do you to do, I'm just like, there, you're like,

we're we're going, we're Fonse, you know. So it's a great retrovalue. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. After, Starac, it has been difficult, because

we're all right, because, we do all the years, but there's a murk, it's been really difficult. To reconnect with my world, it's really difficult. Like, we're not, we're not we've got, and we've seen a same affair, we've not

a little affair. No, well, you're sure, you've had lived in the interior. Yeah, you know, you're kind of being in charge at some

the rhythm is freeney to have a gala every day with the new songs and the

time you know and we see what you know how much you know how you know the things of you know the

you know you know you you'll perform and it's it will be very much it's not it's not

it's not when you're not it's like it's like a show to turn but it's

it's true so we're we're we're pretty you're doing you but how common, there's plenty of boughs

that we're in there but it's sure that when you're in there's a person who there's there's no

who you're not in the performance in this space that's not when it's when it's when it's a it does have

after I've been long months to to not to know to be over me garroche not

not know how to be the aspect of being also that's it's true I've been

long time to think there was I was I'm doing my auto and I Like, I thought

I'd say all the time that I'm constantly, I thought, I'd observe, like, during the long

months, you'd defa of that, you'd be able to do that's in the academy, it's special, like,

it's ultra, it's just, it's like, a sentiment of terror, a little. Well, there,

I imagine, you know, even at you have an impression that there someone to look,

all the time, all the time, like, that, that's, that's, that's,

that it's fool. Because in the academy, as we'd to get to talk to them to be in the camera turn to

us. All the time you know, you know, you have the impression that the camera is in trying to

be in front of yeah, honestly, I've been that I'd never be that's ever, but

that would be fun, by example. No. No, no, no. No, so, after the,

after, it's had been being mulled to, like, plenty of things too,

intense and difficult, you know, just, three months to work to work, to work,

full every week, like, you're doing, to work, you're at at 7,

1, 1, 1, 6 o'clock every night, every year, every every day, every

nothing, nothing to do you, you know, you're like, wait, finally, like,

for, for, for, I guess, for a moment, I imagine, huh,

after three months, like that, after three months, like, I, I,

I, I, The people me said like Hey, it's just to keep you I'm just

to look at the TV, I thought there's been nothing, I'm just just like, I'm just like,

I'm there's just there's been a emotion there, there's been there's there's a

because I'm like, but why I'd do that, like, I'd listen,

I'm, no, I'd I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm

I'm back, I'm just, I'd just just, I'd fix it, just,

that, just that, it's been after that all this, after that's all the rest, it's been

quite difficult. Yeah, but you're doing to be content to reprint, you know, like a few months,

to say, okay, it's really too there, I'm too there's too there's too that's sure that

when you're like something 24-hour on 24 with the same month that you know

that you'd know, you're sure that the time that's like the time that's more than two

seven you have the impression that's, you know, it's, it's like, more than

more, you just to you know, just to your person, you're part to do so to get to

get to be after the past you're because you develop at time, we're we're

we're still, we're just, just, like, you look, the last year, you look

chate the day, the day, we've all all over, we've all put the maturity,

we've been we've been there's they've been, you know, he developed also the identity

artistic, The confidence to assume what you're and who's that's like when I'm when I was going to

in auditions I said, oh la la la la la la la that it's a tough Yeah

you know you're in t' t'clock the morning you're in fact your and there sometimes you

have a sometimes they're like oh my you do you do you do you can't yeah

because after there's an aspect there's there's to the tvs of the to do

yeah yeah I'm not yeah it's intense It was intense, and we're on the same, after a

day of course, we're at three hour of three hours and then you're the last time, we were the last we're doing the same, honestly,

I had to go to go, like, it's the fun, it's my passion, but surchanted, like, that also

it's been something to work, in sort of that I'd listen to, I'd like, I'd likeo music,

I'm, and Ikeurred, and I've associated the music to the work. But it's that, so, so it

It's a time A distance, a Aarray. Yeah, I'm And then you're Revenue at your At your rhythm to do.

It's that That's what I'm important. The question that I'm What kind of? What do you It's good, I

love this question that We're going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm really I'm really

to tell them I'm really to tell you to the podcast, but I'm a Amorese, very, very, very, very devoid for the other person. When I'm my person, I can do it all of it.

I really a need to be a good, that the other be able, soarer, so I'm like, I don't much, I don't, even a lot. I like to see, I'm going to be. But, yeah, I'm an amorese who gives me a lot, you know, I'm a lot. You know, I'm very, like, I'm gag-al. Is you Do you

I'm not dependent but is you like that when you're like you're like you're like you

dependents like not not dependent affective how we're how we're doing that but you

do things to be yeah yeah but yes but but but I

but I'm but I'm but I have an an independence you know I'm

imagine that we're day. You know, our day, and we're in going to get in

the night, we're going to let's hear for you know, I'm a pleasure, you know, I'm a

thing to do you know, that's, that's a so, that's so it's a so, it's so it's so it's a

question, I, I think we, we know the couple like, we're two people, we're two people, but

we're still two people, so I'm still that I'm a question that the two people evolve in the

time for the two persons evolve in the time, we have the two people have the realties

different. If we have the same reality, we have been in the same and we're not like two

people who because my vision of an relationship today is we need to continue to even if it

50, you and you know, and you do it and you know, and you like that

to talk to talk to, talk, you're argumented on on what

what you on exactly I'm I'm I need I need that we continue

to have, you know, that we're not not in the opinion, that we're not to develop our past,

not the point about your kind of the exact, exactly, I'm, I'm going to, you know, I'm a need

that we're that we're that we're that's important and these times, these little that are important for

our day, but if we're we're living in a time, we're not, so, so I'm not this independence

that, and, My great questionement in the last year's in the pastimele of the relationship, is it the relationship or not the milieu artistic?

Because all that also is a question of, you'll say, someone who's like someone who's someone who's not in the because it's

a reality totally different. I've livedue the two, and the two, it's like, it's extreme and it's difficult

at their manner, you know, but rest that's that, I'm a, I'm a person who don't know a lot, of my time, of my energy,

of my, like, your son's about what's what, and I'm going to do you know, your language of the love, is it,

like, the, I'm, like, the attention, yeah, the attention, because for me, like,

it's, like, if you're saying, what I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm,

like that, I'm, I'm, so, and, And a couple of years later, you're with that. Yeah,

it's a gesture, it's like, but I'm the fact that you're in rappel, you're saying, oh, I'm in a souvenir

because she'll like, I'm saying, and I'm, and I'm, like, and it's like, you know,

that's the next time, I'll go to get to the thing, and you know, that's, I'm in love.

Oh, my, my, I, I'm, I'm made for, at two,

at two. I'm, I can, I can't, I can't calculate a lot of in a celibate in my life. Oh, no,

no. But I'm a few a few, I'm a long, long, long, long relations. I mean, you, I mean, in, in these good relations, in these bell relations, and I've got been in a long relationship. But when you're celibate, what's, what's

you're trying to difficult? But I'm not a girl of celibate? I don't know, I'd say not why. Because you want, because you want, because you want to live rapidly, too, with the person, like, partage the everyday, rapidly?

Ah, yeah, yeah, that's all. Yeah, yeah, so, you know, I'm we're that we're in the same, I mean, we're going to share with a lot of dependent, but

like I'm trying, I can partier a week for the work, and you know, but you know, you know, that person is there,

like that person is there, you're not too self, you're not with physically but you're with emotionally, exactly, yeah, but yeah,

if I'm not, if I'm not a week for the job, we'll say, we'll say, we'll try a way to stay on the course,

like, like, to stay, but I'm not in a mode, like, like, I'm like, I'm like a week because I'm not

a week, because I'm not that, that's that's a non, right, really, really not,

but I'm, I'm, I'm in time that I'm in a time, you need to be a different, you know,

you're doing, you're doing, you're doing? It's not, it's not a necessity in my life, and if we,

nothing traditional. It's like a marriage on the road, on the place, like, with a

place that I'm, with the music auto, yeah, And for me, I see the marriage like we're reunies our two universe,

the people that we love, for celebrate what we're in, you know, I'm doing, I'm doing that. Oh, my vision of the marriage, and it's really,

like, that I'm convinced to the person of my life, you know, like, convocue, convocue, convictu, so, to,

I'm not, I'm, I'm more, I'm more, I'm more, I'm more, the marriage. Oh,

yeah, the, the, the, oh, bo, bo, bo, oh,

, whoa, that's a It's always. Yeah. And I'm in the beginning, I'm like, Taylor. I'm content. It's a lot.

Yeah, well, yeah. Definitely. Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a good mom. I feel so it's fun. I feel like,

so it's fun. Is it that your mother has been a young mom? Not with me. My mother had had to 30, 30, 31? But I, but I have a frack 50 plus than me.

I feel like one. Okay. My-20-20-ment-tone, let's-tons? Is your mother is your model? Like, Mama? Yes.

Oh, my God. She has done the gout of being mom. Well, yeah. Well, my two parents, my two parents, it's like, I have the most the chance, like, really.

Really? And, and there's an affair that I'm the same to my parents, I know, I've never had my parents, I've never had a grandpair in my life at me, because they're decided

before that I came in the world. I've never had a grandpair, And my father, it's like the father the most exceptional on the planet Earth. And I just hope to be able to be a grandparent. I'm just, that's an appeal of life, like, to see my father to have this role that in my life,

but it's not over my life, but in my life, it's, like, I'm out, imagine if you're into, he will broye your father. Yeah, I think I'll have never, but I do, but I think, and I think that the reason for which I'm hyper selective in my life in terms of real, I want to find my father. It's like

an example immense, my father. It's all a pressure to put on on the other because I just

to say that your father is perfect? Well, if the he's not to look, and decry

me to my dad, how he is. A man a man, it's the patience in person.

You know, you'll shockra never. My dad is never fashed. My parents

have a superb equilibrium so, so, my parents he's talk, we're, you know, we're, you know, we're an overre more authoritative.

You know, my father, it's a cuisine, you know, he like me, cuisine, he likes, he likes, he likes, he likes, he like, he likesion, he likes, he likes, he's totally, he's really, he's telling, he's telling me, he's telling me, it's never, it's over my mother, but it's over, let's see, man, let's see, my friends, and they're, like, oh, so, it's my chip preferre, but the fact I said, Papa,

this ami, this time, they're superiors, they're sure, because she'll do it a few, and it's But you're just retains your Your father That's on the On the same Yeah, surement Yeah, surement

This effect Yeah, Yeah, it's Serious, it has Like, like, I don't know In fact, My father,

My father, I'm like, Oh, my God Like, Are you? Are you? Oh, Yeah, they're

Oh, Yeah, they're Yeah, they're A beau, model of two parents who's in Yeah, in my life

to be Because we're a family reconstitue Concedue My mother has a two

children, not with my father, but my brother, we've been able to be after the same, so we've been all the time, all the time,

all the time been to get the five so, so that's, for me, my family, and the parents,

it's the mayor. You're like, there's like, there's like, the selection. Yeah. It's

would be what? Your criteria, because there's you say, I feel that to seem

in my person, now, you're in couple, presentment? No, oh,

you're not in couple, no, so, you're open. You're at

the research. So, so the criteria that's not my father. So it's not the criteria that you research?

The patience? The attention. Oh, yeah. And the good humor. I'm impression that's in there's a joy,

there's a good there's a good to the problem of the contrary. You know, it's like there a form of legertity

in the sense that we bring the things to do you don't do you don't do before the drama

and I me revevee and I'm It's like that's like the world ideal, well, I guess, when you're when you're

when you're it's a beautiful now, well, yeah, it's sure that it may be on other when

you know, because you want to continue to live in that, so it's sure that sometimes we can be

dissue because it's not done to everyone what you've no, no, no,

no, no, I recognize this chance that also, it's sure it's not but I'm when you

see the person that I'm with who with who I'm with who she's in couple, you

don't want to that you want to you know, you know, it's like, it's like, you're like,

you're in the form. Yeah, yeah, but it's a man, like, honestly,

it's, it's, it's, it's hard to decry to tell like, like,

like, it's, it's a , it's a , it's a man, and a,

a man, and a , he's a man, he's simple, he's very intelligent, like,

there really an intelligence, like, I'd I've got to say superior. But he's patient, he redone

a lot of, you know, my two parents, they're just people, you're not for anything that's, because they're

like, it's important to redone. They have a quote hyper generous. I have some people who

have some who have problems, my parents, my mother, she, my mother, she, she,

she's like, her, she's, like, she's, she's, they're going, they're

really a perfect equilibrium. The two, he don't, And then, and I'm, I think, I search a man, so I search a man like I'm like, I'm a perfect equilibrium that I'm like, yeah, I could recreate this kind of relationship.

I'd chant the song of Linda Lemay, the most far, it's my father. It's a failed to be my song to Final Astara. For real! It's not my song. Because we'd say that I'd say that I'm listening to Linda Lemmey chant his song, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm so, really, beaucoup, beaucoup, beaucoup, So, very, very, really. And he's And he's Yeah, I I think

that, I think I think I'm not that I'm but I'm think he's in the sense

that we're we're all the we're a big family like, you But what I'm also

is that it's a encrage that's solid Oh my dear, yeah, and you know

that you're in your but you're that's it can't be always to be like

a group point in my last year what my my encrage in this moment in a moment where it's too

a turbillon and family amy, it's anchored that I'm really sure that, you know, I have the

really good friends who are there, and I'm my family who are quite present for me,

so that's just it's like, that's just just like, okay, like, how we're we're

replace the rest, how we can't see, but more that your encrass are profound,

plus that you want to go, you can't to lose. Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's it's a

permit to go to go and you know if there's there's a lot, I know to come to get to get up

they're in. They're going to do. Yeah, no, but the family, you know, the family, the family,

the family, the family, the family, the family, I mean, it's what we're definitely, absolutely,

yeah, but it's where we're, yeah. Nive-Roo Ruge. Yeah, yeah,

you're, yeah, you're going to you're to respond to a question of that,

Oh, wow. What's the name of your parents? Sophie and Stefan. They're attached to. Oh, so, I'm totally full. And then, you know, I'm in my debut to turn now, and they're on, they're on, they're on, like, how can't end it?

What's what we're doing? They're so much more than that. They're all right. They're so much fair, like, and when they've got to come back to do that, in the life, the two are turned to, like, those students, they've done,

they're doing, my mother in gestion of career, and my father, and my son. Well, let's say, because it's like we're like she's like, when I said, when I said,

when I said when I said all right, he's all right, what she can't use, and what's, what she can be good for her or

and what, the part of and my mother, the part of career, like what's that's,

like, she can be good, she's in the country, she's, the part of the side, and she's

on the career, and who can be able to and who can't be able to, who can, they're, they're implicated.

Absolutely. But without being in the, we'll do things for her, they want to just be on the current. Like that, I mean, I see if it's passed, it all right, they're going to like, oh, that's a sudden a little bit of a lot. I'm saying, yes, we're content for you. And then, and so, that's my confidence at 100%. Oh, my God.

That's my confidence. My two parents. Hey, but, you know, it's, it's beautiful that you know what you know, and, you know, and I think. Yeah, and, you know, it's a chance. It's a, you know, the family, there are that you have problems

with the family and it's it has some of the rest of the life. So, when it's going to be

in your family, it has also some of the repercussions, but positive in the way, absolutely. So it's

that it may the bar-out for your next chum, by example. Yes, yeah, yeah,

yeah, but you're at the research? Because you did that your period of sylba,

you're more, but I'm never a few of a research. Okay. I'm

never, I date not, I'm okay, I , It's like, if I know if I say I'm from a day to go to choke. I'll say, I'm sorry, I'm an impishment.

I'll get you ever get to my house. And I'm not going to say. So, it's not going to be. It's going to be. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're going to cross some of the point. It's a lot of time.

Maybe it's what I'm going to do. So, I'm talking. Nive-Rose, what is your most great source of insecurity? At which moment have you wanted that the time's to stop? And is, is it already rendered to be the limit of physical or psychological? Oh, well, it's sure that it's It's like

The limit Physic or Psychologic? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought not me to run there in my life. I thought

that I was a pretty I thought. And then it it's a lot of that, but I'm always said

in my life, I will know that it's going to know that that's that I'm

probably, you're not, you're not, you know, but you're know. You know it's not

you know to do do you know. And it's been really the last year after

my parkour in sort of I'm sure you're super feeble emotionally

it's normal I think we can't you can not get that's yeah yeah

the fatigue and all but I'm talking about I'm there's like there's like

there's like me had to be to me all it's

like all I'm really at the end of my limit, and it's like I started to really really much consult. I've consulted the same

since I've been 15 years. She's always, like, she's always my whole my pen of love, she has all my pen of love, she has all all right, but in the last year

every week. It was like a rendezvous per a week, because she was like, I let's not to come up. It's, we're

not, and we're and I'm, and I'm, I'm a few in-jewed in the life, just a lot, with, you know, like the

, like, like, I'm like, I'm trying to get a problem, the contrary, and we're doing fun, we're that's amused,

that in seeing, I'm going to, I'm saying, it's not me. It's not me, and I can't

me let's live that. I'm incapable to me feel there, and me let's it. So,

I was like, I'm, I'm doing, I'm not, I'd say, I'd say, I'd be to talk to

my life. You'd touched a depression, made you this impression? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I was

so it was so. And then, and it's like, the apit, the crisis of anxiety, the bull, there's nothing

that there. Like, just, like, what I'm trying, to get to what I was trying, to do you,

it was like, there's like, there's like, there's like, I'm trying, it's the base of a human,

there, I was far, like, like, to find, like, I've had been,

so, to be able And then, finally, what I've said to say, is, it's, before to say, well, you do feel the anxiety and we prescried, and you're like, there's a reason. There's something in your head.

You have to find out of that, defar that. If you do you find out of anxiety, you'd like to end up to-re-voort. And we'll try, and we'll try. But you're like, I'd like, I'd want to do

something when, at the final, there's something that there's something that create these dulares. I had a lot in my car, but also

what you've been in question. When you see, when you see, something like it's an art academic that's a matter, when you're

going to be in your life, you know, but it's even without some say, sometimes it's what, you it's like

change, change, change, in his life, to see, it's not know, some of the

things that you know, to say, well, my life, I want to what I'm more,

what I'm more, what I'm, you know, I'm I'm I'm so much

vowing in Rital I'm going to come, I'm like, I'm

like, like, all, everything, all different, and I'm and I'm

feeling, the planet on the world was, I had the impression that

people, and I just had to do a parkour on the TV,

like, it's just just the music at the TV. I have the impression

that I'm me want I don't know I'm going to I'm going to see how much I'm trying to

like a bout I think it's abut physically and psychologically I'm really I mean it's really hard to get to

go to do with and go to do you and invite to invite to the time after I'm I didn't

have this capacity that and I had been in front in the chalais I'm

to try to find a way to frere completely because I had

like I had to I remember the sense of what what he motivated, and what he made, and what he made, like, like, oh, today, like, I'm, like, I'm doing fun.

It was, like, it wasn't, like, you know what I was able to. And then, never, never, never, never, never, never. And so, I mean, I said, I'm, I'm, I'm saying, I, I'm, I'm not, I'm saying, I'm not, I'm excited, but I'm not, anxiety, and then, it's the problem, crisis of panic of my life. I was, like, but, it's not, I, so. I'm, I'm not, I'm, so, I'm, blah, blah, boy, And then, like, the core is tend to,

like, like, a day of course, I was gonna it's, it's not the fun, like, it's,

it's, it's, so it's, yeah, it's been, yeah, it's been, I'm in,

where I'm had been, I'd be, , I'd be publicly because, there, I'd be, so,

be seen, and be being, being, and be magnaned, I'd be, I'd be to be around

all, and I'm, I'm, I'd And it's so. I've been on see what, to have done with it because I'm like,

I'd be never in the same. I'd be able to be the same. And she'll be that's the fun. It'd be able to

the transition. And I'm made, and I'm like, the same, I'm like, in a new life, like, and now,

today, I'm like, I'm, okay, I'm like, you're probably you're probably, you're probably,

you're probably, you know, it's important that's what you did, because what you've been, you know, we've made

the campaign electoral, and it looks of nothing, you're out of a campaign, you're vied, especially when you get to get, you know, let's on, you're vied,

and it's not not so, you know, okay, it's what the rest, because you've had been a adrenaline,

to, it's not a quite pretty, but it's a place, there's a whole to all the world

in tabarweb in your clash. Tate, T'Ele, you're so, you're full, the solitude.

It's full, you're the impression that's sole that's sole It's, you know, it's it's a lot. But, you know,

you've got had been to talk about, so you've had to be able to go to go to get to go to a basis

regular, and there you know, you know, to return rapidly, every time, because you're going to be

going to be going to be talking with my Psy and I said just pleurry. You know, I didn't even not what to

say, how to say. But your family would be to be quite, to be

Yes, yes, yes, you know, you You don't want to have your Like that, you know And then, and so, And so, And so, this period that's,

quite profound, that you've very difficult, I imagine, is that, it's like, emerged, by example,

at the through your writing, you know, at the time music, when we're so far,

even if we're the impression that doesn't nothing, there's there's always something that's

from these passage avid that, which are like, some of the times are like,

these passages necessary, but we're very difficult. Exactly, but, you know, it's something like,

the most gross critic that I have used in the time, my music is depressed

and I, then, I'm saying, I don't, I think not that the people realize

the period that I know, the people are not in that, and naturally, the music

that's what I'm , you know, it's the emotions in which I was in fact that I was like, but it's what I lived. And then, then, like, my dearer in depression, yeah, because of these tony that I'd shorted. And I was just like, eh, it's these real emotions, like, there's a real fee behind that who has written this song that and who's

so, so, yeah, yeah, you can't fake. You know, that's what you've been on and that's what you're in mind and that reasoned to be a lot. Because these periods, there, the people, you know, it's rare that you, that, that, that, that you'd wonder in this time and then sometimes the

people are not more not the time when we're in because we're not quite to you know, you know,

because we're not what to do you know to say, so we know when we need to when we need to be able to

presence. Honestly, just my soup of family, say we're on a mom, and

it was it's been an anxiety because I know that because I said that when I'm

know, how you go, don't know that question at that automatically the language

my head, and then I was like, and I wanted so, they'd have really not that my family me go like that. They don't have to see that, you know, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're

always too, they're to be able to be to be able to be to see, I'm going to my family, I'm going to my family, I'm content. I'm not, I'm not, and I'm not,

and I've been, and I've been, in fact, the affair that I've made that I'm all over the time to be able to my parents. My mom,

her name, to have pleurred, I mean, like, I'm doing like, I'm doing so, I'm doing

to get a point, I'm with them with my Psy, like, and then after that, my

mother, she's, she's the , she's she's a mother, she had a whole

every week, so that there was a thing, so, yeah, but I know,

but I was I was, I was, I would, I'd say, I would, I'd be, I'd

them to talk because I they're re-traversed. But that, I'm over my parents are all the time. They can't

be able to be there when it's positive and they they're going to be there so you know. Well,

yeah, well, yeah, well, what's, what you're what you retake to this

person the most important in my life. That's that you're that's just that on that.

Yeah, that I'm that I'm there's that you're there's that much that's

it wasn't It's in my milieu, in my my career, in the team with

I'm at I'm in that's not because I'm in my relations, in my family,

in my family, that I'm in to be able to be able to to be able to what, and that I

could even not respond to the telephone like. I was not not different for you.

No, I had nothing to offer, I could not, I could not, I'm

I'm just I'm there, I'm like, I'm like, you put you to

put you to your name you call, you have to care of to respond. Like, it's crazy, that's not a good sign, you know, you'd make some of the pressure. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was, like, it's like, it's like, go. So, you know, so, you know, so, you had been

to have been to all the resource for you. Yeah. And, you know, you know, when you're saying, oh, I think

that I'm going to do? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. There were a two two weeks where I've

started to live like, I'm going to I've done like, I've had to do with a

marriage that where I'm to feel really really. And I'm saying, that's the day, one of my

reconstruction. And it was a year that I was out of that time. That's it's a

very recent, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, oh, it's the day one

of my reconstruction. It's you know, you think that the day one, it's the

day one that's the day that's not the whole not to do not to then,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, it's like, it's like, really, and,

and honestly, when I knew that I knew, I was like, I can't accept

so, so, so, so, I can't not, so, certainly,

of, of, It's like, you know, these things are like, like, not-bred,

or that I'm like, I'm going to put a lot, to be able to make up to my own environment.

But I'm, I'm there. Yeah, because it's by rapport to it's, by the same, and, you know,

do you know, that all the world around that we're past, that we're , can't, comprehend,

your silence, your absence, these retress, they're they're all to say how it's it's

so you know, it's like you know, it's like if it's like it's like it kind of thing, it's like it

to say, I mean it's like to be there when you're like because it's a little so, the amity.

The amity profound, it's, it's certainly when it's not, that we're that we're

the, the, the, the, for that, I, I'm, there,

I'm in the , there's, there's been there's been there, there's a after a house,

after mansion, after mansion, I'm I'd promenay to my my family. I was

I'm where I'm where you're well where I'm in the place I'm in

my head, I'm going to be able to come to a new house? You're to come

to work to go to my to make to be to be back, return in

your country, I'm to go to the academy I'm to buy to make

a house after back, back, back, return in a new

man, I'm a new it's it was too. So, I've been living with with with

my parents, the house of infance. It's been really much. Yeah, you've had had been able to

get your repair, yeah, to revenue to re-encrace. It was, it was, like, the gross subject with my Psy

was like, I've got, where you're good, a place, a place, not eight. One of

you're good. It was like my first deft of my sort of, and when, When you're commenced, when you're

to start to start to start a sign that you're going to be able to get a question, you're

able to make some of the yeah. Yeah, yeah, when I, yeah, yeah,

and at the time, I started to write up, engaged. Because I I'm just I'm like,

in the phone, it's hyper engaged, it's really I said really, I'm re- But you're connected.

Yeah, the fact to be in tourn, You've been to meet some, it's a good, that's Oh, yeah, I tripe. How do you say on

on the scene? Oh, my dear, my place. At my place, I trip. Honestly, I'm move, I dance, like I'm at

my, I'm just like, I'm really, to see the people to that, it's not good sense.

What, that's, so when you're on the scene, you're not, you know, the same,

the question I'm asking, is what my parol? It's all. You're the only... You're free. You're free.

Yeah. And, in plus, I'm going to my songs. It's my words. I said, I'm going to

reason. The people they're not going to know about about your the song that's written for

her. What's the has signified in your life? My grandma was always there.

Always, every spectacle. She'd not one. I'm two grandmair, the two,

and the two rest of the time rest of very precious. Yeah, it's very precious. The two

they've always been there's always and it's it's it's it's a

support in my life in my life this grand there because she was she's

getting mad of the mental and the she's her hair and she she's

she's all she lost after the last she had a last second

I had a show and my parents she didn't don't she

there's it's it's there's there's getting She's on the time. And it's arrived.

We're all in the cell, my family, my parents, and my parents, and she's all right. And she's all right. She's found a lit. And she's arrived. She said,

she's, she's perhaps the last show of my little she's not really that I'm going to be her. She's been. My parents

are arrived in my loge and we're and said, Grandma, she's, she's like, to talk. We don't know

how she's, she's not, she's and she's, and she, And then she She was We're not

We didn't know She said At the hospital The medician It said a book She'd have To get a bout She went to get to

My dad To say She'd have We'd have been To see She's his last In fact She'd be

She'd be Just for Just for Just for we Not we'd Not know We're Ones to

We're We've got to We're in There'd be And it's she had already partied.

This song, I was composed in the night. A, before. Like if

I was, it was, like, if she had left to be, yeah. Yeah.

And, and at the final, this song that's like a great cry, of detress

but to be about the year. Yeah, like, like, like,

like, like, like, like, and, and when I had been to

the voice, I'm put the made a fact of the music and a career in my

life, it's what I'm doing to do do you do it after I'm after I'm after you're

to talk to and I'm sure that's about Is it you're saying? Oh, yeah, but I

hear you talk about all the long to the long, and I had some any of the

no, no, I'm just I'm talking and I know, and I know I'm sure

I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm not in the

way, but you sense that that that's that and she

and she and she like that you know, she she had a character she had

a character. She had a character, really. It was a woman right,

she's a woman that's a woman who had a little woman,

my father, so they have been four men, and they're quite

all all so it's a great woman, a woman a

woman I think that's that I retien it's a it's a it's a it's a

fanate also, it's a really a farceous like a first of first

and is that's been a deye? It's my first, it's my

first deye proche like, of family or of people excessively

proche yeah, I've had a question a many of

a lot, so, why why why, why why

it's would have we had to have been to say, we're really rapproached also

in family we're really really created these moments we're we're

seeing there's there this song that you have composed

you have to she's to yeah for the

only the same that's it's something yeah is

you have was you have been to be to be able to be

to be able to to be able to I'm going to I'm going to I'm in right, you know, yeah, but you have the right

certain. I'm like I'd have the right, but I think it was more to see my family and cruele

like I'm like I'm like, I'm for all the world in the whole, and the performance to ARAX

there's kind of there's a little that I thought difficult that I had been all my family

there in a day a day we've we've lived together and I would have exposed

this doy that's in it's a very much I'm going to know I'm going to know that they're

going to see this see this perfo, they're all on variety he was like 20,

it's like to be able to be able to and it's a question that it's a song of family

is to be a new and today she's really the day the dey we're

we're we're all it's incredible can't that that part your your

your you're to create that it's a part of you yeah yeah we're not

quite I'm not so I'm like the moment where the song it's like

it's an object it's an it's an it's an it's a kind of but that

you yeah yeah and it and it and it creates some it's

it's it's it's something it's very powerful it's very

very very very it's be beautiful. It's beautiful lard. It's magnificent. Yeah, it's galvanizing. It's...

It's sacralized of the moment also. You know, you go to say when you've done to this song. But as you say,

your family will always your when you when you did you know? Oh, yeah,

yeah, yeah, well, there, my God, in the other, she,

are identical, they're so, her sister, and her are still with us, and it's it's a few,

and she had the impression to have the impression to her to be the impression, to be there yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, it's special, and there were there, after, after the

after Starac, where I was doing to do my exfirm, and then, and a woman, and I'm

like my grandmair, that I had had like, oh my God, like, like,

it's grand, but, well, well, it's, well, ten, a fraction

second, and I was like, oh my God, that's it's just, she's like, she's, she's she, she's, she, she's, she'll have wanted to be all right,

it's all right, because we know, we know not the, is it is not right, it's not right, it's what you have to be,

that's it, that's it, for me, that's the way, well, I'm, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, when we're able to create, yeah, what's, what's, you know,

in all the situations of your life, that you've know, to describe what you feel like you feel like, when you're when you're when you're

to get in the emotion, it's a don't know, it's a don't there. Well, it's for that

that the people to write to because we're not all of us to make some to make the words. But you're able to

let them to be at a tell point that the person at the other she has had been in

their situation, but she can't in these words. That's is Are you could

I'm going to write for the other? I don't if someone if someone would be a

question to say you know a sure sure but I'm saying I'm to say, I'm going to

to say, I'm going to I'm not, I'm not I'm not with the criteria of the I'm

I'm I'm sure I'm just because presentment I'm to say I'm saying

I'm saying to me to me say, I feel to be that's not that's not so it's

then you but I'm But I see not. It's a But you will continue to write, you know,

you're going to that? I'm going to that, I'm going to do you know, is it could write to the fiction, write a

book, a romance? I don't know. In other there are something after me that will be going to go to

go away with the music. I'm not I'm just like, I'm saying I'm saying, I'm trying, I'm trying.

Yeah, yeah, there's something that's emerge more to get more I'm going to

I'm going to see what I'm saying. It's exciting. The level Eros we change completely

of the atmosphere. Don't me four cards. It's hard to say four cards and I can't read the

four cards and you want to choose one. Thank you so. We're going to have to

have you have you have you a pen of love history of a story of

a story of couple, prefer you seduire or to make seduire? What is your definition

of the desire? Ah! Well, the genre are all the video, like, and it's easy,

it's like, ah, my dear are all good. Preferred you to seduil or to be

to be to do you? Perfect, go see. Because I did, I'm a girl.

Well, yeah, so that's not for a So, it's not for a No, never. Never. I'm really a grand seductress. I adore this. Like,

but I mean, I'm at, I don't date not. That's really not my, it's not my dad. But if I

flash on someone, toss you, like, I'm like, I'm gonna be in the, what's,

what's, what's, what, what, what, I'm, you go I flash,

I'm like, I'm going to go out line, I'm going to and then and it's not. Okay. But I'm

a great seductress, and I love the seducation and you seduished? I'm very direct. By the

the words, by the yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm not, like, I'm,

I've been, so, I've been, you're, you're, like, Yes, yes. I'll start

I'll start in the writing to to say drastically that I'm an interest and my

relations are really made like that. And I'm really, yeah, I'm not, I'm not

I'm not I'm not I'm not that I'm that's not you know, I'm my style

of person for the person who has a style of person that fit, but I'm yeah,

I adore I adore, I adore, I adore, I adore, I don't, and I love this

side of the woman who's seduies like, I'm in the super superiors for the

so I'm so I'm after that there's a good on don't know there, there's a

point seductor those times of the first time that just of the of course of power and

of other well they're fun these time that and after after that

I'm a few I'm for renew these moments yeah yeah I adore

I'm I'm going to it's not a it's not an aspect on the way to make some of the it's good

to hear of it well, I'm saying who's like it's not that's not let's say a little

a more a more potential when you it's not it's not you can't you know and there

there's not there's no is that does it has been it does it

um well I'm I imagine well yeah I imagine So, you know, the rapport

where, you know, I'm the like, you know, I'm the gay, who's like, you know, there are some people who are like, it's, it's, it's, it can be, like, be challenging, like, it can make a pair. But,

yeah, no, I, I, I, I, I'm, because you're not inattance, I'm, that, I'm, in what I'm, in what I'm saying, you're not, you're not, you're trying to, you're gonna, you know, you, yeah,

oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's, it's, It's difficult, the tank, after that, I'm going to get on my cell.

We'll wonder when it will be able to respond. What I'm going to be my cell, but I'm

made up, I've done, I've done, and then after that I'm doing like, it's great to me.

I adore. So, so, so, that you're to hear to hear the sound of

the notification of your definitely. Yes, and then then, because you

it's not because you're like, ah! But, yeah, I don't, but I'd

You know what you're going to happen soon. It's fine. Thank you. Thank you. But you know, you know, you're talking to

get to see you to see you? Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm a lot of I love so.

I love the life, I love the people, I love if you, yeah, yeah,

yeah, that's sure, I'm, that's sure, I'm sure, I love that, but I'm not a

sortoce to bar, I, I'm pretty, I'm I'm just, there's just just plus.

In fact, I'm anxious. Because, no, I'm afraid of me to be drugged, I'm afraid of to be afraid of

to be afraid of people. So I'm a feeling like, I'm going to get a vair. I'm going to get a vogue.

We're going to get a seat and I'm going to see, I'm going to know that but I'm in mass. When you

go to be some of the show, you'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'm,

it's the moment I'm going to I'm going to I'm because you can imagine, you're going to have a show,

you know, you know, you'd, like you, it's like you say, wow, I capote. I'm... I'm... And see,

and I'm... And see, I'm... I'm going, oh, my God, it's possible. It's possible to do that.

Like, there's a place for this. It's accessible. It's... I feel this beautiful, that's...

And then, then, I'm... I've never used in the show of humorous. I don't have ever lived in the past.

And then, I'm like, oh, these humorists, it's fun, also. And it's it's good.

Oh, it's good. The... And we all the humorous are really, but, you know, it's it's really, you know, it's not, we're saying, we're doing, we're sorry, tell the time, you know, sometimes, we're thinking, too, with... Yeah, there's some of humorous, I love, that type of humor.

Ah, yeah, yeah, there's um, yeah, there's humor engaged, and you're, and you're saying, it's... Incredible. I adore it, yeah, we, have, provoked these, you know, provoky, it's... Provoced, this sort of, in the... Ah, my, all the time. I'm a lot, and I'm not dissue. I'm not dissu. I'm so. So,

Catherine, the question, Optorizzo. It's all of where you see you in. After all,

after all, you've been to know, I'm going to do you want to do you know, to see that when I'm

going to more long, I'd want to be a carer in the francophonies. So,

you've to go to have to the international. Yes, except the English,

I'd generally in English. But the francophonies is like a rave ultimate

and there's I'd like the impression of having... I'd be able to an spectacle at a cell play at least at a place.

It would be something like that. It would be incredible. That would be incredible. I'd like it I'd like to be also. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That would be good. I'd be... I'd like... What's that'd would... What's...

We'd say publicly, we'll... We'd be... Maybe someone will... What's that would be able to first?

Yeah. Ah! A show cultural a show... A show... I see not like a... gala, an

omission of discussion of discussion. It's sure. It would seem to it would be sure, it's

sure, it's some of the great discussions, I like so, yeah, it's so, it's like,

the animation, yeah, it's, yeah, it's a podcast, you're all that, I think it

that's really so it's really so much, so it, so yeah, I'm, I'd be able in,

obviously, in a tourne, with, perhaps three, four, album, we've been done,

10 years. And a great tourne you know, of plenty of success on every time, and that's like, like the people

to listen to listen to, when you do your show, there's a baby? Have you been to your show? Oh, my God,

I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, in the 10 years, I'm my two years, I'm in two. Okay, so you do that

do you say, so, so you want to do so, so you have two children that's three that's three and ball with you. I'm a

I'm a chien. Is it a child? Is it already your chien? No. Okay, but that you could start by that? Yes, yeah, I'm going to

start with, I'm sure. I try to see, it's the first turn of my life, so I'm trying to what? Then the tour, you do you have the tour of Quebec,

right? Exactly, to do you know, on the broad of it? Okay, so, so you can see what, what's, what's,

what's, exactly, see, if you, do, is, there's a chance because I'm saying,

no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, and if you're, like, I'm, come to,

start, I'm just, I've already I've been been to think. But it's exciting when you think, you know, when, you're like

in a period where all the time where all the time. Yeah, it's exalt. All right. All right. But it's all right.

Telling, to find out of explore, to develop, and you're going to get to get to get to

that, you know, to try to to work with the other and to to, to, to,

to, to, to, to, to be past to, to, to,

what you can do know what's to do but to want to go to go to absolutely that's exactly

what I'm and you know my time to find challenging it's like the best of my time I'm saying to my keep to

you know, you know, that's just me, even if they make a doubt in my head,

make it, but if it comes of the good people, you know, because you see,

because you're in confidence with your people, because they're just that you want to just that you're

just, when you know, when you know, when you know, when you know, someone in the life and that's

not a that's not that's a way, you're more than the way you're more, you know, I mean,

you know, there's a lot of, yeah, I'm saying, yeah, I'm, I'm more more, you know, I'm sure,

yeah, but it's like, it's like, okay, you know, but that's the fun of to understand that of,

these others. Yeah, absolutely. And that's it's a regard external that you know, so it's

so it's the fun to have this opinion that of the other. But, I'm, I'd

so you're the more beautiful. And you're really, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, it's a pretty much, it's a pretty, you know, it's probably that's a little bit,

it was a question, yeah, by a part to the young of your age, but today,

but today, it's a more, yeah, there's a more, this maturity. So,

so I'm, so I'm, so much, and I'm, and continue to be doing to find to try

to try to And thank you, thank you. Thank you. I think that it's a lot of many people who I'm trying to

community bien-veillance, and to understand that we're to understand that's that's on that's on the day

more difficult. He's he's going to think we're more difficult. Yeah, and then to find a

to them also. Yeah, yes, Catherine. Thank you, you're a real pleasure, really.

Your Finally, it was you correct? Incredible. Incredible. Oh, I was to you know, I'm going to do. I'm going to tell you. It's not so. You're not sure.

No, I tripe. Okay. Okay. Well, I mean, I, like, because, it's me that's making a impression. I said, she'll have a lot of the attention.

It's over your show. I'm on the other new new age for a week. Ah, well, we're say, thanks to all all the next time. Thank you.

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