Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #159 - Nicolas Duvernois | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

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confidence in our proper parkour, when it's when it's it's going to think it's you know,

it's going to continue and to be the objective realist is what he has been with us there will be

there's a lot of there's a lot of course that's a rich, it's an guy that has been

a lot of reflection, who has tried to be and I think that when we know these cheques, it's because we've tried, because we've

thought, because we've crue in something. And how we're relive of the cheque? That, I think that absolutely interesting. So, place

to Nicola. My priority is redevenu me, my being, my wife and my family and my

parents. Before, I said that's my priority, but I don't know they'd demontra not. Now, it's my priority,

and I'm in the way to their demontree. Because to have a father

who's with you with you, but what's thinking about an papa an patient, having a

that's never the time, who is fatigued, not an energy, it's not the papa that I'm

put up. Cudone, man. What's what you What's going to when you've put in the old? Oh, la-l-la.

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we're doing during the pandemic, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a

special on the tele-traveye that was yeah, and there was the physiotherapist

you're receiving and yeah, and in sort, pendant, I don't if I've

already had already this story, but the turnage of the mission, it's the two

girls. I've had an idea to have a interview on your time, and I'm going to be able to

get to be able to work. I'm saying, there's a person to understand their job, including on we don't know

not be the sole, so I launched a book, I'm I approached eight experts, and it's really a guide

of survival for a job of your work. It's a car, yeah. In the auto, in the

parking, at the an ancient TVA, I've said, hey, I've got a I have an idea, you know, I'm trying to do that,

and then, and it's a time of time. It's a lot of time. I think I'm doing it. I think it's a month. A trick of fool. Well, now, it's commenced. It's like that. With Nicholas, it's party.

We just, we've got, how to create the things. I'm very, very content to be receiving, like I was saying, and I think we're already in trying to learn, of these affairs. So, well, thank you,

officially, Nicola. Well, thank you, for me to receive, officially. Yeah, because, you know, I said, you know, you were not there for an introduction,

But what I like I like, what I'm going to it's a parkour, is that it's a where you have been a lot, and there's because we're

trying to try to do it, we've seen in an idea, and we've assumed to well, look, it's not

it's not and what's interesting, is when we're when we're what we're doing, you know, you've been

to say, you've had been to do you have been and the book, yeah, yeah, we've been

let's have called my my museum of the idea, he said, okay, it's perfect, but you've

It's like it was like in October. There's like, like, before Noelle. He said, well, in two months, I'm like, oh, my God. The pressure, but, you know, a pressure positive. And, I like, I'm going to learn. So, I'm a lot of thing. And then, you know, I'm a relation very amorous. So, it's, like, it's, like, it's, I've made my psychotherapy to telethraveye

with that. And we've launched, that's that. It's so that's fun, you know, and, you know, and, you know, I say, you're saying, you know, I say, I do so, you know, I do you see, the idea foal, well, it's a idea

to have an idea and you know, to have a idea of the work that's that's not, but we're still in the

work, you know, it's really an effect secondary to the pandemic, so that your book still,

absolutely, absolutely, at year, and it's a year, and it's a question, you talk of the

and I'm, I detest the cheques, but I think that I've had a force. If I have a power, if I'm a

to want to want to understand my cheque. You know, there are there's

not, and they don't know to look at why they are not the people. I'm not to be able to

make sure to me adapt to be to not the real life or do more the same same

and with this really, but how it's I'm not, how it's

how it's that I'm not that's so I'm having after, I'm even

talking to talk about to talk to the the right of the travel and the and also

I'm left I'm doing I'm doing this is the C&ES is the C&ESST even if I'm in my cuisine?

So I'm having plenty of question like in this live that who have been responded and then

yeah, I'm like that I'm like I'm sure that's it's definitely it's a profit of

it, learn. Yeah, but as long as it's that's so you know

you're you're a diagnostic of your in fact there are you have you have to

of the little, but I'd say that's some gross, you know, some of who's, who are, to,

to force, uh, to, to know, to know, to know what's because I think the

, you know, the cheques, but, you know, we're, we're doing, you know, you're an check,

then, no, no, it's not correct, it's the man, well, sorry,

sorry, well, it's the term scientific. Well, yeah, it's, ah,

damn, it's, So, you know, I think it's, I think it's, it's so much it's a little bit, it's a stacrifice, that we'll, and then after, I'm sure, well, I think I'm a better entrepreneur, or better, whatever, what I try to do, thanks to this moment that I'm trying to, to the analysis.

And now, today, how you go? It's very, frankly, it's a lot more than, you know, I've taken a pause, to, come home, quite long time. And then, it's, it's a good, The only thing that's the only thing I'm

that's the same thing I'm in April, we're in April, and this winter is a quite quite

this is terrible. And then the luminosity is revenu, but I'm really, more I'm going to advance in the

life, more I've discovered, I'm going to know, what's the question that's really the

question I don't know that, but I'm I'm a hot, I'm a hot that

that's I'm that's the first time that I affect all the time this year. Even when I saw

the people partier in vacants, you know, I'm going to go to be a lot of the timepette

Alvigno, Newy, St. Pienneche. Finally, it's not like, it's, it's not

like, it's not the same, in the fact, I'm sure, in the fact, I don't know,

I'm trying that I'm understand the people who will live a party of the year,

in the year, this winter, I didn't, I'm not because I I had some my

wife is to I'm going and I'm like my God it's a fool the difference and I'm

an idea I've had an idea of this man that during this winter there's a there's a

there's a certain discrimination in the fact that I've seen some people who

have not an don't know to go in Costa Rica in Florida whatever to work

to work and work not and I'm then I'm I'm I'm saying imagine

Carol I'm I'm we're going to an school, or

from September to December, we're in the same program, and the other program, we're doing the old school,

and we're we're going to last there, to January to June. Franchment, I, I,

I think I'm not in the South, because there's the same, and you can continue to to work

to work. But you so, so, the cost, the life, in the

That's that's not, you see, I mean, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, you can't be able to

do you know, and they're going to continue the program. So, so that they're going to do you know of an school,

do it's not my wife, me'll be my armache at the head, but it's cool. Echolibride.

Oh, but you're all the time, these ideas like yeah, yeah, because, you know, there are many

who you're many people who are there is there that that the public you're that's like, It's sure, it's great, grand, grand public,

it's really really the million of people. I'd say, you'd be a little new old, but really, the dragon, it's really,

it's the grand public. It's the grand public, out of grand ecot? Do you know, when the people do you know, when the people

do you know, I'm not, you know, I'm definitely, you know, it's always sympathetic, they're telling

they, I think I'm someone who who welcome the anecdotes, so, there's, there's,

there, there's, there, there, and then, And then, all the world has been put you their idea, and no,

I think the world is extremely sympathetic to be very very good at least for you. Yes, it's bad correct, it's not too

do you know. Is it all the time? I'm going to see your on Joker. We'll have this.

I'm a jokeur that now. The level VAR, Nicola, it's a question of order general,

and this show that was been for you for you. Nive on on the

we're more precise on your level rose I'd say more more intense with your

story. We have the questions eros of of order sexual, sensual, but not

compromettante. Opto resos always a question for terminate this great encounter. You're a

joker. You say, you say, you say, you say, that I think, for the reason that you

want, we're doing, you can, the braise on the table, they're quite, the cards,

and you can't give me five. Perfect. Look, and, I'm,

and there, I'm, you go, I'll, you'll, go, go, You're going to

let's and you're going to and you want to choose one. Two. Is that you

do with to start to do you? No. But my family she has come in

Quebec and she had been the first time of her see, one of

a boyante I was, I'm very septic but she had been too of a

madam. So, yeah, I'm curious like, the affairs she had

had not had been there don't know, some you know, you know, the details

that person know, no, it Is it going to go to go to you? Yes, it's clear that I want to go now. Is there some of the same?

Is there is something to have to be able to know it? Is it going to have been to clear something? I'd like to say, you know, I'm not the kind of person who wants when I'mer if there's a project or not. I'm the uncertainty of the life. No, I've got anything to precinct. It's a bit the mystery.

Yeah, it's just, what is she's going to say, what is she's going to say? Is she is something I don't know but, you know, but it's, but it's, but it's

but it's it's, ooh, in five years, I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, yeah, but it's what, yeah, what, you can't just me say,

the, you can't, like, the, the, you know, the, so,

so, so, I'm, like, I'm, like, so I'm, so I'm,

I would be that it there's, like, there's, the thing, Diane, with who I did RDI, she me talked to that

also, yesterday, we were to say, and there's a name, and there's a name that's, she's not in the future,

she goes to, she's going to what the event that's what, who are, who are today, and there's there's been,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, what's, what's, what's,

what, I, I think, interesting, so, yeah, more, more,

more, more, I'm, like, you're curious, but is that will me influence in my present? In plus, you know,

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have you have to have done? So, so what trait of

character? The patience, the patience, in my ideas. Before I had an idea, and I wanted to,

I'd have a plan of affair, and I, I was, I was like bollymic. You know, when I took my pose,

you know, after my impugned, I've met a lot of experts, it's been great,

it's a great, it's another problem, but it's it's a fact realized that, you know, I was always

at the course where I, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd,

plenty of projects because I wanted venge my genus. Or, I'm not good at the school, and we nased a little because I'm not good, and the profs were difficult on me. And then, it's like each time, it's like, I'll learn to show

that I'll show them that I can't, you know, I'm not going to show that I can do do something, I know that I'm piquized, I'm even to prove to someone

who didn't be in my life that I'm able to do something. So, I was impatient to show that. So the patience is It's been here And today

I've always I'm sure I'm sure I'm doing one I'm doing I'm coming to 15% you know,

I'm going to I'm used to make people to make something and convict of and convict of and then and put up

to the time during the long time when I was when I'm when I'm there's like oh my god

there's just when he works he's going to and I'm my idea to my idea to my team that after I'm

on trying to say at a time of minute, that it's reason, it's, that I've done to do it's a

because I've also, I'm also, that it's could create maybe a instability

for certain person. And then, it's not everyone who's not the people who

think of the same way, it's not the same, um, that's the same,

how I'm, I'm not a more, but who who owes to bring to risk all the

time, so, so, so, I've applied to have to have to have been

to the time, have you an impression you'd say that, just a man, your job at your job, he said, okay, he's that's the

question of, ah, it's the patron who demands something. That's not in the future. When you said something, you do you want to, well, when I

say I'm the idea of the year, it's because I be challenged. There are one at a bureau who's maybe two,

now, but Stefan, it's a eternity that is with me, he's he understands, that when I

say, I've said, that's the idea of the time, And I want to I'm, I I want,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, finally, it's not, it's not, the idea the year,

and it's not not, or, or it's not how it's not, or, but, you know,

all the ideas are not bad to do you, so, so, I, I know,

I know, I know, I'm not, the science infuse. So, I'm, I'm,

challenge, and we, we challenge not as as often, you know, because you don't impose?

No, because maybe, But it's because, you know, I'm a half-moatia, my mom, Quebec, is my parents, my parents, and in France, Sostinis, it's a sport national. I think I'm sure as a group national, you know, and the world, they're at a moment of a day,

I've always, I'm a argument. But, I'm a sport, I like that, you know, it's like, a box, you know, an other coupon, a other point. But it's because it's not, of trace. No, it's that. It's some, it's, it's, so, so, so, so, so, so, then, if,

we have an impression that it's a trace. So, we're going to be able to, because there's because there's because there why you don't know if you're but we're

we're not but we're it's a preve of love what we're in the thing, it's in their thinking

and it's a challenge and we're and the and the yeah and the many years

it's always many months of it's it's it's genial two two

servo because because like you're all the all the absolutely

absolutely because we we're we're we're we're we're every

it's French, because even I think that sometimes when the French, there are many of course, they're doing we're trying to

be able to find out of yeah, well, you know, let's just the Canada, okay, the Quebec, we're a little more Latin than

the rest of the but the Canada, you're reconnoe to the world to say, thanks to to just a Trudeau,

we're not, so, you've not got to have somebody to say, he's, he's like

pity at the base, he's like, he's just he's already, yeah, so, we'll let's

we'll let's, we'll let's, And then we'll let's... And the French, my family... You know, I'm going to... You know, I'm the same

if he's that someone abdick, then they're going to be sure, they're going to be sure that the French because we let's... You know,

you're going to the airport, you're trying the taxi, the chauffeur of taxi, you don't the attitude, if you're a exituitable,

immediately. You know, you'll remit to he'll be to respect, that... Okay, so you do you know,

so, so, in the so, in the so, so, in the the server that's chient, you know, you can

say, is you can put a smile on your face? He will be able to be able to see a service of your life

with respect all the time. But, you know, we know, we know, we're really 100% of the two, I'm also

Quebeccaque than French and I'm sure of it, but I'm really interesting. You know, it's really

interesting. You've seen you've been to talk about the school, so for you have been not quite

it's not been quite I'm excellent elive, but I had an atroc note, okay?

Why I was excellent? Because I was curious. And, I wanted to be at the school, and I'd want to learn, and I'd learn until my death. So, I think

an excellent elv, is someone who's a person who want to learn. After, I wanted to learn on certain subjects and not

all the problem. The science, for me, the science pure, it's always been very complex. Someone who has

a lot of energy and I'm sitting, I've been in a license in Montreal. So, you know,

it's a school where it's really eight to five every It was a lot of many of the future.

It was not made for me, you know, it would be that you move a little more, that's more tactile

than the experimentation? Yes, and then, and then, and then, finally, after I

did it's that's not, but it had to be a engineer avocos or medicine, I,

you know, I'm not that, I'm a moment of a moment of a time,

and it, and it has changed before, but it's 45-year 35

years, when I'm a moment of the same, there's a proff of French, that I'd said, Redd, Redd de chereid.

And at a moment, he had said, too, by the name of family, so, so, you're

so, now, you're a proff with Isabel, you know, you're a friend with Isabel, who's the

proff, you're like, you're like, you're going to you're doing, and dovernoe, you're doing, go to tableo,

you're going to see the tableo, At least you've made something this year. You know, it's like,

it's like, you know, you know, that's, you know, that's, you know, people have to be

to see the the tableau. Oh, okay. Or they redone the notes by order, but, you know, I've used

that also. That's, for those who have to be able to that's for those, that's important,

you know, but I'm not that I'm made so much that I'm when I'm didn't, I'm not that

the doctor, or other therapist, all that, I mean, my post, that I realized, oh, my

God, it's a matter to be able to see, I'm never, about 12, 13 years, I'm trying to

after it's correct, you know, because, well, I, did, a sport, and you were very

good, so, so there was a thing, you had some , you had a result of, I, I've been

I, I've, my, my esteem to me, my confidence in me, five,

plus a basketball, I'm the best, I, I, or what I had not in the

notes, I would have at least at the time. You know, a young who has

just of difficulty at the school and who can not get to be not in their

because there, he's definitely by the notes. Tandis that,

I've got this chance that, but when I'm made, because that's

when you're a young, you've not, you think you don't know that you're not intelligent

because we define by that. And, and, So, well, it's, it's due to enter in my, you know, and then

then during the years, you know, I wanted to prove that, no, it's not right that I'm not intelligent. It's just, it was not

made, at my man, it was not made, it's, there's always a 15% of the young that fit

not in a program that traditional, you know, so, so, so, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, because it,

um, it's, so that you'll know, so you're always at the course of something,

but you know to see what. It's a my bulimy entrepreneurial, to always to do you have a while

I'm going to do it's not, but it's that it had to prove to a person who didn't,

to know, to do a little that, no, you're able to do do you

get a value? Yeah, really. It's like so we're to get a value.

It's like, we've been not that my value could be my valor could be

So that you have not of value. No, no. But that's terrible. You know, so often,

well, I see, I'm in interview, I've heard often, the improvization, how it has

saved of people, because all of a coup, he was in something, in a group, it's in an end,

you're going to get to the other, so you're not you're not all on your coin,

and then you're part to, you're not to, you're not, at the at the limit

you have to you're and if you see the the clack, it's the team it's a

jute, an public, you're in a public, you're in that's the way, you're in it's not, you know,

you're doing, you're talking, you know, because that's, I'm 45 years, it's perhaps

at 35 years, I've been not afraid, 35, 35 years, that I discovered,

that I didn't necessarily the person that I thought, and I'm , and I discovered,

at the entrepreneur but at a way, in becoming a papa that,

that I was being a lot of this, I'm a entrepreneur creative. So, the creativity

is a type of art, in some type of sort. And I said, return to

the school today, I'm in the troub to the theater, I'm in the improv,

I'm in the art plastic to for me to me to

me to be that way. But no, we We've not, and what's, what, what, what's, what it's made, but, man, how it's it's not a professor, or there's not,

he's got to do, man, he's got, he's always the gall-uvered, I had always always, I had always, I was always, I'm too jenny, it's perfect for the theater, for the improv, you know, why we've not pussed, you know, exactly, you know, things like that, well, yeah, so, you're in the sport, so, you're categorized sport, and

you, you're, you know, because, you know, sport's also, it's also, it, it had not it, it's not, it's so, it's a lot, it's Lorde. Exactly. Because, you know, the sport, it's something

also. Exactly. The impression that's that's a question. It's for that I'm

that's a time, and I'm so I'm trying to try to their real reason to be. And I,

I'm not on the notes, to the grand dame of my parents sometimes, but I

upset on the confidence in self, the este of so, the the sport,

know, to know, at least with your car, you know, I'm a grand, I was an spirege, the , the,

the, the, the bra, too grand, I'm like never at my place, but there's

something that, that when I was a good, no, it's like, weird, but no, it's really,

so, my op, my with my children. Ah, but it's, so,

that's my response, but, but your patience, so, so, so,

so, yeah, yeah, yeah, because, yeah, I've seen that

it's it's it's and then when you're a leader you know you know

to do you need to their job. If you're stress, it's not, so with Stefan,

I continue my ideas but, with Carot also, but, you know, I've got

for me and I realized also I, you know, I think, I'm I think,

I'm still, you know, and then, and then, today, I've been also

necessarily rage of me prove so there's plenty of good idea that I decide to

not have what I'm to accept before. It's just just I'm a view a view

too. Well, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I'm I'm sure.

I'm that's the right, because that's it's a point, so it's so 24, so

so it's so that's not over to they're not completely to what you have,

uh, no, caro, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, in September, that I'm with my family, and she starts to say, oh, my God, these times,

there, there's always I've heard, but I saw, she was, there's a few filter, she's like,

hello? I'm like, oh, yeah, I, I, I, I, I'm,

I'd be, I'd not necessarily because, you know, I was, still, the hamster,

like, is I'm going to, she, I'm going to she, person. You know,

it's like, you know, no wonder, that I'm in the puberty, you know, I'd, I'd,

I'd, but I'd know, but it's a long time. No, it's in October 24,

that I've had, I've been pretty, pretty, pretty, 18 months. It's long time,

and, and I, I'm revenue completely of a manner different also, because I

would not recommence. It's, it's, a point of no return for me. Because I like,

I'm not not to say that, but you know, like I use the term, I'm a tomb I'm tired, but I'm, it's at the

pandemic that I've lost my repair and I never can't, it's like a marathonian who at the

first kilometer he discovers that a cajoo in the shoe on the shirt, so, so,

I'd have had to get to after the start, and then to get used the caro

and start to come to come to start but maladroattement, so the kilometers were the years advanced,

the more the years I was too maladrored, and at the end it was an end of my same, so I just

have to be talking. We'll surely there's something there to hear you, I want to ask you, I'm going to

question, which person has made a difference in your life? There's not to S

to what person it's that me destabilize, but Carot. And that you've seen rapidly? Absolutely. Because you were relatively young,

when you've got known? Yeah, I had 26 years. She was a... She was a... We had a soup of a ami. She had gone... She'd never, I'd rather, Thank you, too,

because she'd have a panne at her. And so, she was going to soup, there, because there had a panne at her. She'd went in the cuisine, of the ami,

where we'd this lady, I'd say to my mother the night you know, I didn't

know, I'm not, I know, I'm sorry, I'm in her own because she had been in

relation, she had been, she was in a guy who had she was in a guy with his copan, a guy

really chick, but I saw her own, what's the what's what's going to say that what you

frankly, I'm not any idea. The same thing what's what's pass

now, you know, when, you know, I've been 20 years I'm in a lot of

you know, I'm in it's a time, we're so, we're talking like, like,

a manseur, really, but, you know, it's so, it's so, I'm, I'm,

so, I'm, so, and she, she, and I'm too, I'm,

too, to have, I'm, I'm, you're made to do, I, We're saying that Caro, she came to the Rive South of Quebec, family,

you know, super, you know, her father and her mom, their work, she's out of the poverty, you know, their history of familial, very complex, have super well-reuxed their life, no debt, pay their card of credit, all is right, Caro, independent, she had a career, it's a mankine, really, had been to Japan, in Italy,

she had parted for the glory, had 20 years, Neckarrives, okay? I had opened my restaurant. When I finished the university, I opened a restaurant, I was certainly

a show a shock catastrophic. And I'm totally chambouled her life, because she, she, she,

she had entered in my folly, and I did it, the first years of my face, it's catastrophic

that we're not a scene. Embededed by the head, we were stressed, we had, you,

like, all the world had, they'd, you know, we, you know, you're at a in a demi-soucele

in trying to fund a pure vodka, you know, and she? And she never, never, said what that's

or she said, or she has never not had never had never been behind me, at the

the whole, you know, I know, I know person, who would, I've had, I've got the

emotion, but, um, the chance. I'm, you know, because of someone

who crore in you like that, it's it's something something at the

interior also to see a regard that's it's it's yeah, and it's

I'm never alone finally. You know, and there day, when you're

an entrepreneur it's difficult, there's like, it's it's, it's,

it's, it's, interiorly but when I'm when I go to the

house, and I see the chain solid, I'm like,

ah, nice. There's like a a security. So, you've never seen so this day? No.

Is it been very your relationship? We've been we've been we've been done. Well,

let's see, I'm going to tell you? Well, yeah, we're going to get to someone

of the person on a friend. Yeah, so, um, we have the

souped. Okay, I've said something I've never to me to have a We're talking. It's me

with a female, I'm not saying she's one of the one of the one of the friend in the

time. And they want that they want to, they want to we set up. That's very

very agreeable, but there Caro arrive with his friend. So, we're in there, I'm

I'm in Carol, now I'm I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm, we're like, we're, we're decided to go to on a bar

on the but it's a bit of it's a time. And there's not what to say and there's

there's a question of respect there's a question of there's a lot in the situation but you know,

at a moment to know, at a moment of the point of his left, he goes to that's

that's like to get to the house there, you know, I'm going to I'm sitting on the and I'm

just you're a little, but you just you're a little, he comes, he goes, I'm a I'm left

and I'm I'm going. Some days later, the long the long time, you know, I'm like,

you know, I could say, I'm not doing it. Yeah, you could be able to but I'm, no, no, that's like,

she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's carolina and she and she's, patate, patata,

I'm like, I'm gonna go, you know, I'm gonna be, you know, I'm gonna, you're gonna, you know,

I'm really, you know, it's not, she said, to her last year last year, she're she thought,

I'm I'm saying, Oh my God, Jesus, thank you know, it's just cute it's a Cute, it's

In fact, it exists in his regard. That's what that's important. You're a sign to view. You're cool at

to be voice. Allo, you're an sign of life. So, like, I don't know there,

there's a thing, there's a thing, so two years later he's I'm going to come to

my blonde Kate, but Carot is there, I'm here, I'm calling my my mom, my mom,

Mom, is that I can have been to take a car to get a Toyota Tercell. I'm at least I'm going to have you're in like I'm in a

time, like, but I'm like, but I'm like, you're not to get a little I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

Steve. I'm like Steve, we go to the George Etienne he's called George Etienne, he said okay, perfect, he me

always all the time. We're coming there, we're to be clear, net and precise, it's, it's just that they're gonna

they're there. So, it's the person that I'm the person that I Kate, George Hittien, and her. And when he'll open the door of the chalet, I'm going to do with him, and I'm going to do with you

like, I'm there for you. Okay? We pass a superbe showery, all right. The last night, we'll enter in the village. Okay, good-D-May-Suh. You'll cut it if you want to, but the night of the morning, you'll enter in a village. Now, we're going to enter in an auto,

but we're, she'd, she'd, they're in an east, we're at an cora for, for degeneration. Okay, there's not the Facebook, not Instagram, how I do for the, to find we've got done it. We're

having a friend we're at a new know, know, I'm going to have to

an restaurant and we're receiving for the employees. And I thought that when,

say, the employee that's an employee that says Isamel Menard but

his email was Joke 47 underscore CEL Blue at Hotmel

point com I'm like why why it's not Isabel Menaar

at Otmel point com so? And you what's what

your courier No, no, I was, I was a good chasseer in the time.

And she's a chequeer of information and she's and she said, bourgeois three at my own

my life. I'm a man, it's not a good, but it's not a bit. I'm

to get in she's she'll go to an calliel in the afternoon

and I'm and I'm going to know the restaurant, you know the restos you can't

be the menu, what you can be to say what you can't but I'm not

put the menu in Fichie Joined because I wanted to I'm not the menu and I'm not she's where

they're in she's where I'm saying I'm pretty she's like I'm trying I'm trying I'm coming

my menu and it's exactly what it's exactly what it's yeah no no certain

could say it's a rapace but positive I'm I want I'm going I'm not

I'm not I'm not she's she's she's at prece cafe Prince Arthur

and St. Laurent, I'm not a lot. I'm not, I'm going to take your auto. Toyota Tercell. I arrive, and I'm made express to not amn the menu. I arrive.

She's assis. She's up for to make the abyss. Hello, good, she'll be to say, I'm not, I'm not going to

hear, I'm coming in the menu. I'm just just new for to say one I'm not, I'm not when I'm

don't get to and I don't know. She me She's a She said She's What you're

And then After she's After, And then Two years After, I received an Appal

George Etienne She had She had She said She's She's It's I'm

Not bad I'm not Brad Pitt There's It's There's There's He was

He was He's Soro So, So, So, So, So,

So, I'm So, I had So, I used his number, I If you want to if you want to

let's me know, she'll be able to visit these apartments, tomorrow, is she'll come, okay,

perfect, you know, a day, you know, a date of a day, but date, not really, but,

so, we're going to an apartment with Steve. The night, we're soup at a restaurant, and then

I said, well, I'm, in our home, you can do not in my chamber,

you can, you can't, you can't, I'm in the salon. Okay? And she has dormed in my room, the

door and then we have always in this, because she's not she's not we've not we've been

an apartment I've abandoned Steve and we've but we know an apartment on on the apartment

on my life. Ah, yeah, Chateaubrien, I know, I've been also, I

know live on Rosombe Conde of Rosombe almost we're almost 656,

it's an affair like that. Oh, but it's really close. We've been but it's it's a

story, it's rocambolesque. It's a rockambolesque. But you've had been but you know I'm not, but I'm

fascinated. I'm fascinated to me fascine to say the human's so what you have decried is that you

said it and she she's, she's, you're you're trying you're you're trying

that's that's special I think it's the same it's the same to the one

and there's there's a way to not Because she'll have been to have to have a person, let's

if you're not, for the person I'm not I'm not, I'm not, but I'm really not an example

but, you know, like, but it's because she she, she's saying that it's it's special, you know, it's special.

But, you know, we're saying, I'm 72 hours later, that's, it's completely too. No,

no, but it's, you know, I could not let's tell my people, you know, and I'm doing,

I'm just, you, you know, all the world is like Nick is in it's more and it's more and Caro

was like oh my god you're with a new like it's like too quick for all the yeah yeah

yeah it's like you're like you're but it's for a wait it's funny

yeah we're we're we're in front of September 2006 and Bernard on the corner of the

room onda civic yeah so you you see you You just of all Oh man

it's it's a you're like you're like you're like you're like you're like

you know that you know, everything I'm yeah, yeah, I'm I'm,

I'm, I'm, you, you're in to do it when I said, I'm creative,

and I'm artistic and I'm, but I'm too, I'm too, I'm very prox of my emotions, but at the

school, I'm all over long time so, so, when it's sort of

it's sort of it's And it's clear that my It's really It's really My little bit Charlotte, even

Not this morning I said, Charlotte, Is what you can't? And then I finished My France, What's the I'm asking?

You know, I'm like, Like, Like, I'm, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

Charlotte, if there's a certainty in the life, it's that I'm always the I'm always, I'm trying

romantic, amourous, yeah. Nive, Jone, it's really interesting. You'll

have to be on four, I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not sure, but I'm sure, but no,

it's a, man, Anne Marca you know, the same, you know, the emotion is a moment

of the reality. Yeah, you can't try to your wife and a bar and you

say, I'm saying, I'm not I'm not to say, so, so, so,

so, so, so, one, two, three, and three, and four,

and four, the question. What type of amourous is you? What is what you have not received to your parents and who's been to be able to

to not to feel at the height and how your relationship has done has been able to it? It's good

question, that. How my relation with the money has evolved with the time? Perfect.

The money, it's an invention, literally, it's like a processus that we've

inventing to put to put a value to be in the money.

I think it's an unjust the I'm in some of the difference, sometimes it it's an a lot of

it's an just, sometimes it's merited also, you know, it's correct. You know,

we say, the two phases of the medale, it would be the two faces the dollar,

there's the there's the good dollar and there's the God's you can do you can do

things positive for your family, for the society with the money, God, you know, you can be the worst of the crue with the money. In time of entrepreneur, it's ultra-complex the money, because when you're on a fair, you don't know not, well, often. Personne of you want to be it on a day. It's very complicated. It's a lot to try to try to try and be able to get each dollar. When you're in, you have, you have to

attention, because the entrepreneurship is never a long flove, tranquil. It's sure that, you, there's there's,

I, I, I, I, I, I've vuced the two

side of the face, in a kind of, to be good voyage, to have a

big house, to have a ski with the kids, when they want to

do you do do you, but, I think, it's platt, that it's

just a question of an question of an question of I mean, you know, a young who would have the right to do

do you know, but it's a point in the money, so I'm not, so I'm, so I'm always, you know,

I'm not, you know, I'm not, by the fact, to not have to , I'm not a big, dispensier,

like, you know, like, one dollar, it's worth a dollar for me. I'd

always attention. Cependand, I see, that, you can't, you can't, you can,

I'm, the co-president of the campaign philanthropic, Lorae, of the University of Montreal, and we'll

leave a lot, you know, and I'm in the retombe concrete in the research, in the program, in the quality of

life of the students who are more than the person, someone doesn't a cheque a little, it's a look, but

no, no, it's fool, it's changed the life of the world. In his on your own own

in the concrete, it's concretize, it's so it's the thing, it's so it's the

people, it's, it's, it's, it, There's a lot that There's a power There's a lot of

But there's also who are also who are also who are too who are people who are people there are people there are

there are there So, I've seen that the money too, too, too, is that

Is that you do you find of a class, class, more and superior? I've never

manqued of really, very superior, my parents have been my parents have been very people,

my parents, my parents, my bureaus, My bureaus are in that little meble there also, at the same place. Yeah, because it's the same place at the same place. Exactly.

And I've always wanted, the first minute where I've had been six, seven years, before I could have a little bit of money, but I've always

that's always that's been the first place, my father had to find an employer when he was in 1969, if I'm

don't know, of France, in this in this edifice. In this edifice, there had a cafe

toned by a polona, and it's the sole And where he vandal where he vetted and they

Jolui and my father, it was a community Jewish who did the vetsamins

in the page, my father, he'd livered the jolui and the espressos

on the and I'm like there, there, there, you know, the book, that's

very sentimental this. It's a sentimental, so. And you're an attachment. An attachment visceral.

And then, my bureaus are there, so my parents have always been always very

to work and then by passion also, you know, they're, they're, so,

so, so, don't, so, so, so, you know, when you've

been in when you, when you, when you, when you had, the first years,

in the first, you know, I, you know, I was, necessarily that,

you know, necessarily, that, to, I've never won't of anything, you,

I'm extremely privileged. And what's you've learned, of this period of the

of the of the inquietude also because when you're a debt there's a

question not just not just not have to have to be money it's

two things I'm I'm I'm it's so it's so it

is a power it can you get in the end in the

round of you we see at what it's to see

to get to it's it can't it's can't it's there

of the person who is quite all with the money, I think it's an arm finally,

a arm is often for you defend than than to be to attack you. So, you're in

French, you're defancy exactly, but I tell you, Colush, a humorist French,

he'd say, you'd be much, and in health, than I'm never,

I'm, you know, the argent is, it's fun. But, it's not that you

define especially when I regard the young the children, you know,

it's not he's not that they're not a luc to go to the club med it's not

not that you have a lot of shoes, it's a little my default of my

family so the life, it's a luxury to have new shoes.

That's it's an equilibrium extremely extremely and important. It's these

values to transmit. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's very that it's super important. But, you know, you know, who's in the world of the affairs,

you know, also, of other people who have a success, but I'm, by example, of a success financially. Is there any of who you derange there? Because, sometimes, you know, is there often, you know,

we have, this reflex, to, you know, to get to get to get to get to the arm in your face and flobing like an abyssile,

in some sort. So, there's not so, you know, there are people who are more at least to demonstrate than other,

but when you know really these people there's not a lot of, there's not a man who there's,

you know, there's the, you know, the person who has the money around to him, and has not

no respect for persons. Man, the world that I know, in the case, who have many,

who are people, who are people, they're not that are not going to do you, they're not that, is there,

is there, are, if there, is, is there, There are, there are people who are not correct

also. I think it's the person that's the person that's the important than the bank, and the

money is fragile also, because we look at how much, look with the tariffs, or regard

with the insurstiture economic or the pandemic, there have these greats and they're

all right, so, so it's fragile also. So, I'm always, I'm always in-

the fact that how I do you for me secureise on the long term, It's that my obsession.

It's the security long term because You don't know, No, no. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's perhaps the same the same

blessure that my notes where I want I'm, I want, I want to revive these situations. You know, there are,

there are, there are there, you don't live, you want to you're not to remit to risk, because it's

It's not It's been Humiliated Injustice It's a injustice Okay, it's an injustice It's a hard To have

The Pets Really, because I know I said that I had a good idea I saw where The market Alley

I'd I'd be able to It's always That I'd always that I'd It's always That's Because the

Entrepreneuria It's a filter Natural of the It's like in a filter a cafe, you know, there's a million grains of coffee that are not going to

pass, some people are going to pass in the task. So, it's normal that's quite, but when it's just the,

I'd have that's so, an argument that's going to that's a that's that's a that's a book

that I'm to make, you know, no, it's, it's, it's not, is that I'm

intelligent or or not, is that I'm could have courier or or not, is that I had cuined or not,

it was a talent. It's, it's, it's, money. And it's it's a

there's a person who has a talent, who has all the money, but he's there's a

money, and just because of the money, can't be not going to do that for him,

maybe for the society, you know, he had not had been the chance to have, the chance,

if he had not not had been to be the money, Look, see the Indian.

Yeah. You know, Allem Bouchard, all, almost, who have bought the Quebec King of today,

why we're independent on today, like a public francophone, it's the first generation they're,

chorale, Iswatier, all that, and people, person had the money at the beginning if they

had not to convince to someone to have to have the perfume the most vending in

the history, the circus that had invented the circus, the the most grand

chanteuse the, you know, like, the treasurer national, it had just the money. It's a, ah,

it's a deacher that. Yeah, I'm, absolutely. And that, you've, it's,

you've understood when you've got your years, it's been, you know, is it's a other years,

or it's been really concentrated? I've had been a lot, but not, not, no,

no, no, because there, there's always there, there's always there, not at the

stress? Is that you're not, but, I'm not, I, that I'm not that I'm not to have

the stress in the sense where I'm very difficult on me so I'm always this attente

to be able to be good in what I'm to do to get my projects to get to

get to and then sometimes it for I investis a lot a lot a lot

a few years I'm to get to get a partannance it's we've got repotiqued

the the house, it's cost it is, you know, it's not, so, you know, the money

is also your own your own account with the company, like that's so that's so that's

so that people, they they can't necessarily that, I'm, I'm not

pitey, but, you there's a lot, that the money, that's what they're in

a business, yeah, I'm in any, no, no, any,

my life, my life, but, it's not that, it's not that, it's,

But a... But a But a Moves decision can can't be two, two, three

two, three, let's say, but, but, but, but, yeah,

the majority of the business, a decision, you know, but it's that I

mean, it's there's still a party of uncertainty. And I think you you know,

you know, the Canadian of the time, when he starts a that, you know,

he's not that they're there's a question, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's a other way to think, that. Not having to get to

get. Yeah. The question, I'm trying, what I'm to ask. I'm going to talk about

what you have not to get to talk about, sincerely, I'm not, I'm all, you know,

my parents, well, I'm a father, French, of a village, there,

a village, there, he has had the war of Algeria, you know, it's obligatory, the service

military for two years, you're never sort of, he arrives, we don't

a gun at 18-year- what's the thing, what's he's going to live the American, and he arrived at

Montreal, and he built a superbe a super career, exceptional. And he has always crue in my

ideas. He had never said, no, in the sense, all the whole possible.

I had not the bad notes, but he did, he did, well, he'd do

play to play the school French is important to to, to,

to to guard this there. When I decided to go to an Cegean Anglophone in

sport and I was not to say, more grand fan of the decision. When I wanted to

an restaurant, I know anything in a restaurant, go see, fonse, you know, the immigrant, like,

we have nothing, so we have nothing to have nothing to have been, to get, to be, my man

more, like, the kind of, you know, you know, you know, you know,

but never do, say, he, do not so, do not that. So, she was, she stressed. She stressed for me.

But she stressed for me. But she looked at her. She never, she had, she made. She made, she made. Just to have two parents. They don't even need to believe in your ideas.

That's the interior. But that you're freens not. It's powerful. How many of times I receive, I receive, I've received, and some, the worst, the last year, you know, it's a young woman, 22, 23,

what I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, ah, I'd have this idea that, good or a good, that's, that's the market that's never me, you know, and then you know,

I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm like, change the world around to you? What, who? This is, what,

you know, I'm not, you're like, if, you're, so, don't, that's, so it's not

to believe, to think it's not, he'd be able to , say, let's he, to be the, to,

at the, at the, at the to come, but it's that also, to take some to take some, man.

I don't tell you know, that's the idea of it's all the idea, you know, it's a quite, you know,

there's always a little things, and you're having some have some it's not to be in

more, you know, so that's it's not that's not to be, it's not, the worst,

you know, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, and there, there, there,

there, there, there, there, in a, in a , you, for a discussion for a

22 or 23 years, he there's even not the word risk. It's what your risk in 22

years? I'm not I'm a business employee, employee, I'm doing, I'm doing,

you can't get to pay to what? Your iPhone? So, there are there's some

I don't my advice, that are not my concerns in the same to do you

have a man monoparental 47 and three children who said is that I'd

would be to make in my project? I'm just stressed for her, because I think to what she can have been,

because she has not the liberty that's in the the power of money. The power Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

So, so, so, so my parents, no, no, I'm, I,

you know, I'm saying, oh, they've, I, I, I've not, I've not

had, I've been, frankly, and I'm talking to, my psychologist, because, you know,

the psychology, they like, the, the, We're... I imagine. We turn in that, you know. And I'd search, you know, and I'm like,

no, and I'm a little of the two, you know, I'm just, I'm... I'm the ethic of work of my father, and I'm... I'm... I'm... ...perfectionist, a little anxio of my mother,

you know, if you do... My mother, is... If you do you do something, if you do something, if you're... My dad, it's more... ...and, you're more... ...that, so, so...

So, so, so... I'm in the middle. I'm a melanched of the two, you know, it's normal, I think, like that's like that. Is you've made

some of the parents? No. But that's it can be anxiogine also. No, but the limit,

you know, I'm just, you know, my son, I'm sorry, Maggieie. I love, my sister,

Magali. But, I'm, I'm not a sport, education, so, I'm not trying to play with

playing with to play no, and you're not, and I'm, and I'm, not the social.

I had not I had like, you know, I had to be like, you know, it's like, it's a

other life, you know, it's a so, so it's so my parents, all the

they wanted, is that I finish with a diploma. Why? Because the diploma was the

insurance of the life. It's like, you do you do it in the

life, but you go to get to to someone that you want to someone who

you know, it's like an assurance. So, you know, I've been a Bac in Science Poetic, extremely Fierreve,

to have a baccalaurea, but, especially, these studies that I've done, I adored, and it's really, it's that

I've got so, I've got so much on my studies, without that be a course

of entrepreneurship, it's, you know, plus you're curious, more, you're doing, more, you know,

and, so, my parents, it's the sole obsession, you, a diploma. Fife.

And the bonn't they'd be able to talk about, you know, these things like that's,

I'm not turbulent, but I'm a verbose because the policy, that would be interested,

the policy active? That's the question I receive the plus. But now you're

in a sense political and you and you have to talk, you have a question.

I'm I'm I'm a person, I'm part, you know, I'm part of the politics,

you know, it's the the of the city. I'm not the politics partisan.

You talk about the Greece Antique? Yeah, I'm the real politics.

You know, I'm very critical in my multiple platforms on the politics

actual. It's not over the person, it's just me, the partiznery

for certain subjects, do much, has not a place. The

health not an orientation political. And And then I think, that's my

point of French, I think we're not necessarily the good so it's sure that's not the Ministry of the Education.

I don't know that they're not that's my schooleries or that they or the institution or of the

schoolization, but it's the parents who it's, so I'm I'm like that I'm like

that's the part to my father my father has to my so I'm so I'm

so I'm like that if I'm if a I always I do the politics. You know, it's a put. A new thing is an other affair that's

they're all all right, we're all a government parieter. I'm not, I want, I want to be

not half and that's, it's, it's, or so when you get to the half and

a lot of a second I'm sorry, I want the 26, I want to the 26 deputies

women of longueue it's that's there, you know, there, we're

there, region, each deputies. There, I've not not made to because I'm

going to be able to have a man who's a manned I'm in half. You know, it's a selective. It's because

it's a casting. It's a cast a piece of theater. Yeah, we don't, it's our more great

expense to us annually our impos and our tax. It's for that it

so, so, I, the PDG, the P.M. it's a Somalian they're from women

unigambist I'm afraid I want to I want to I want the person the person the best to be the

place it's important you're just you're in the life of the you know you know you have to be

you know you're a point of a you know because you know you look you you're

you know you have you you know you're you know you're in first So it's like,

sometimes we can't have to see. We're in the system on the

work in the question but you're doing that but also see what it's like if we're

all the same place all the whole people, we're for me a man or

a man or a man of a man, it's to see before protect

your population of what there's to be that. Today the

pootis okay it's partisan so it's really based

on the people, it's dominated by the and it's a co-court of popularity. The perception.

It's the general. But that's about Occupation Double. It's not that I want.

And we look the grand politicians, in the history of Quebec that we've made that,

it's the people who had not fear to be sure to have reason when

all the people were not with them, but can't to go to the event,

you know, the person with the colonel and they're going to do and they're and they're and they're

in futeed to what the people think, they're not, they're in my idea, because of my plan,

because of my team, we're going to do it, and if at the election, we think I'm not

a good job, chau bye. There, all the morning, he's reveigh, he looks, they're doing,

they're doing, they're doing, well, I'm, I'm going to get to write, I'm not

that. You're, You talk of visionaire. Yeah. To have a vision, a direction. A colonn. A colonel.

But when you... The courage. There's... There's no courage. Entry in the arena political, it's a lot. I think the

social, I change the data. You know, the resources, we're all right. And sometimes, we're going to get two hundred

comments. There are not one, but it's the same thing for the ideas political. They're going to

be there will be there there's going to say, but, there's what the percentage? You know, it's,

you know, it's a I think, I think my I think that the social we're really too emotional we're we're active, we're agit, we're

a few percentage of the population who are there, you know? Yeah, and then, and also, we're too, make it done happen, you know, like it really to have really, to have to

when we know, we know, who had been to be the name of the people who are, you know,

the people, the people, the people, I know, but we were the possible prime minister,

and you me sort someone, just because you've seen it's a bit so it's for

that, but you have been approached, you've been approached. But, but a

but a but a one you but you could, you could, without, to be, there's

there's probably some of the thing you say, there's probably saying, I'm going to be able to say, because it's

it's a moment of a moment of a moment of the people that, without that they're going to try and

to make in sure that the things change and to not attend that the things be changed but I'm

never sometimes, especially now with the multiplication of the communications,

I see, I can't have more more of more of more, if we're rest in

of the I'm in I'm in I'm in there's a but you're in you're in you're talking about

I'm talking about you know, you know, there's plenty of things that we have to be, there's for that it's for

that it's for that it it's for it's a but if I if I go in the case it

it's really different because because I I think there's there's people in

all the party pooties how it's it's that's that's not the government to

of other orientations also. It's not that's just your party that's your own because it's very polarizing.

I know. I'm so what I think difficult in the debate political, is that you have to be poor

or counter. Yeah, there's no, and I think, there's a matter of the thing, I'm to say,

to be, to be, we're going to do, you're going to do you're, for the population. But in the

fact, the objective, is that we're being bad, when we're maligned, when we're having an

education, And when we're And when we're We're trying We're doing these roads We're doing it. You know, I mean It's the base

We're doing. It's the base We're not We're not We're not To get a general To get And get it

And have a Fillset Social that's more Because we We're chapped In our society We have really We're really

Of a field of security And see, It's for so The foundations You know All the groups We, you

We're Contribue All-T People, We're doing The President But you're Because

But you're Pally By Rappar By the The state, you know, the state can't do not do all the time the state could make the

things differently I'm sure, I'm so I'm so that's a day, so there people can't vote for you know, who's,

you're open to that can't well, yeah, yeah, I'm over, especially, you know, I think,

we know, we have a business, we have a question, we're having a policy, also in the

sense who who, not, uh, not the politics of a career, yeah, yeah,

I'm sure, yeah, it's been a job. But, you have been have to have some of the convictions. I think that

it's this bugy of the thing that you have to have to have to be going to be in it's just because we're going to be

a minister if we're dissu. And we need to have to be working on the first of they're going to

tell you know, it's all the contrary of the world of the world of the affairs it's part

on the up, it's on politics it's on on back and it's on politics. I've seen

me've seen people who are talking about people are okay you can't get you're

you're talking you're to say that and that it's not much it's not much No, but you know, there's,

there's probably there's probably inappropriate because I'm, but it's not that's not it's not, it's not,

it's like, but even, say, a congress political, it's the members who vote, absolutely.

And after that, that's, it's your program electoral, you don't go to defend that but it,

but it's the people of all the contes that's on vote so, so it's

it's a other way to think, because it's it's both how it it's absolutely democratic a party political.

After that, well, at the election it's on in the population, but we're something of both in the way in the way

and then after that's to use and how we optimise this system that we have in place? No,

but I think I think the Quebeco would be more interested to the politics if we did differently

also, you know, just we're in a carcand and there has been there's been there,

I'll tell when Mario is arrived, you know, we have crue, that, oh, my God, something of different, when the KACC is arrived, oh, perhaps,

but, ah, a, aye, that's complex. Yeah, but, you know, we're going to, we're doing, it was a play a lot on the baton in the road,

you know, it's like, but, you know, when we're doing, the Q, I, thought to, when you were, we had a time to talk,

you, sometimes I'm, we were, there, there was, an adventure entrepreneurial, there, you know,

we, we're in we're in our , okay, we're not, You know, you know, you understand, there was

something, we had a question, and I think the grand motivation, it's the world, the people,

the Quebecers, you know, it's, it's, to get, what we need, what we need, what we're,

with all the , you know, it's, all right, you said, we're going to talk, you, we've got

to be the question, you know, we're trying, would be, with a party that's, it's,

it would be, like a, that he has left in the head of the world, that's a guy of conviction,

no bullshit, he's going to do you know the soups spaghetti, and he knows the pre-none of each person

in each country, that's a politicalian, you know, I'll finish there on the but,

you know, what, I'm very destabilized, you know, Mario, he'd meet people,

he'd talk to, you've got an idea to have an idea, and then then finally,

you're to be treated by the first by the prime minister of the time,

and that it's like to do do do you do not, if your your idea

to start, it's exactly the same that's actually the question, why you're in that's not, why you're

doing that, I think, that's, I think, that's, that's, he'll learn and he

will, he will, try to a solution adapted to the decision, not the

decision that he'd think, it's an opening how, how many times he force

the error, how many the government we've forced a It's an error because he wanted just

not change to say. In any way, we're doing interesting to be a point of politics 101.

Niveuroo Ruge, give me in three, so you please. I'm it's a chance that

the chance that we're in a place that there's a lot of the planet that's not

that's not that's not that. At what how much profound Caroline

in repont have you have you have you have you have you have you

have you moment of your life, have you to be able to be able to have you to be able to

have you have you done to be able to before before? Yeah, yeah, I've had to how it's

manifested in the the departure? It's a long descent in March, March, 2020, April,

say, all, you know, all, I'm not I'm not at a person, I go to

people, I'm the world, I visit the client in permanence, all of a little I'm in my sub-sole

with a webcam. So, so, so, that's, like, there's like a

marathonian that's like, what's what's what's what's going to

be, there's that's my world sort of my world's my parents,

it's it's stressful. And then, and I compensed by working, you know,

to, you, to, I've been, and I added, but after the

years, but, the years, years I'm I accumuled the fatigue,

I'm not the third, the third infant, Raphael, during the pandemic,

I'm the age also, I've had been 28 years, so that's accumulet but I

continue to do like I'm in having a couple, 28 years, and then had been

another reality, I've three children, they've been, the gallery

had been they're at the house. Caro is an saint. I'm, you know,

like, wow, it's a start to do it, but I'm not adapted to do you

to get to run at even if I have seen to the auto route, so, so that,

the equilibrium is more fragile, and the fatigue, and the fatique, it's

with the business, we've had a, we've had an issue with a other division, you know,

our beer without alcohol, it's not It's going It makes It makes shied in some

But it's correct With the It's quite with the You know, you know, you know you can't do not do

but when you do you get chute And so it And so it So, it's accumulated and at a moment

of a day, then, it's been and it's pretty more than a year that I've

more of creativity, I'm procrastin, I'm more motivated, I'm cynical, I'm

reduce the I don't know, I'm not a patient, you know, all that's, you know, it's not me naturallyly. It's not a great way to live with a person like that. But it's a lot of, you know, it's a question me and what's what's the plate,

is that I'm in the 2% of energy for all the world, but when I arrived at

my cap, and I was an todd-d-os, you know, I was just a robot epused. Epusay.

At every instant, you felt that it could be deborded? No, but I'm

I'm mellered the name of my children. It's like surcharge mental,

yeah. My in a box of courierle that I'd have told me, all the courierle, you had to be 800 courier at their time. You know, I'd even be like, it's like, it's not,

I'd an advanceed put. There, there's a day, I mean, I, I'm, I think, at the view, no, the definition that we want, but there, there's a

day, the night, of October, two, I, I think. I, there's a chair in my salon that my arm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, down, the sous-s, I'm, I'm I'm doing, I'm six-p-p-five, I'm doing solid,

I'm doing, I'm doing, my quees was mowff during the time, and I'm being, and I was,

when the caro had the, the time, the barring, bad-dang, the, the chaste passed at the

wall, at the end of the escalier, a mur, I'm, I'm, there's, there,

I'm not, my children, there were, there, there, they were, they were, they were,

they were, they're in, they're in, they're in, What's what's what they're They're saying? Carot, you know, Carot who says,

I call the ambulance, I'm saying, I'm playing, because I'm mad. There's just like, no, no, no, no, no,

I'm just, like, I'm just, like, I'm just, to put the glass, you know, to get the glass, you know, the glass, you know,

and then, and then, it's, it's, that, you know, that, I've seen that it had been

not just me, it, it's attained, you know, I didn't, can the landmine

Caro had had an calli a same to be my two partners

and they're saying, they're going to do it's not very technical but they they're saying

they're they're they're I'm not I'm so the morning I'm up and

I'm saying to caro I'm an call a and AP

we're we're a meeting the last the last the first I'm

the first I'm in I'm I'm I'm in I'm

And she's like, okay, she said, okay, but 20 minutes later, my port son, it's the St.F. And then, she said, he said, I've seen, I've got to, you know, I've got, had been able to deba the escaliers,

I've got to get, with something, and I was going to, and it's luch. And, and in living, in opening my door, I knew,

that it's, you know, the mission, intervention, but I'm at Zoot, you have an intervention. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying, oh, fuck,

it's now, you know, And I've been I'm going to but I know I'm going to do that.

It's like it's like we to do you It's like it's like we need to be able to yeah, yeah,

I'm going to the decision even not the escaliers let's have put it, you know, it's like they're coming

in the cell to make, he's been it's good today, sort of person person who

person who person who person who he's he's good there's been there's he's been

he's, I'm gonna you've been I've been I've been two hours. It was, there was the key of the cellul, he had opened the cellul.

It was like, oh, shit, I can't talk, you know. Because, I, I, had, long time, had, long time, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, , the, the, , the, , because I, my world, so, I, feel that my family were correct,

I, I feel that my family, so, I'm, I'm, and I'm, I'm still, I'm still, but, you know,

but, you're, but, there had been no, I mean, I existed not for me even. I'm going to

I'm doing a conference, okay, and I'm a example, I'm talking to talk to the tapirulant.

Yeah. And, you know, an event in the marque-la and it's deployed

and they and I'm also, you know, in the sense that for a space, it's not

to be able to get a to be able to because I think to the tableurlant of an airport,

and there that you see, and there, you know, you know, I'd The tapir-ruling.

You can't get you can't get you can't. You can't you know, you know, at the beginning, you know,

it's not the time, oh, no, but we're going to make that also, but you're aspired because you know,

like in the life, there's, the responsibility, the charge mental, the obligations, the

expectations, the time, aspirate, aspirate, aspirate, and there's all the tapie is very long. And,

and then sometimes, we're debark, and then it's, I'm sorry, that the When this tapil, we don't never, we don't

count of all the time. The first thing is, I'm going to be going to say, but that, I'd like that

to do you have to do with my children, I'm going to but I'm not because I feel like,

because I'm inspired. And I'm like an impression that you were in a case. And you

have not to stop, you have nothing, you control not, no, it,

it's all- that all- that I was even not not made not made a to put to

because, malade, not, not, I can't, I can't. I can't. I remember one way. Because everyone had had these attents?

All the time. So, like, you regarded your hour? And then, the way, the way, I had two years, where I had nothing, I think it was, like,

in seven months. It's not normal, but it's that my life. It's always had been that. I'm very hyperactive, so,

so, I, I'm, I'm me I'm convinced that's that, I'm in

that's that I'm and in my strategy to do you get to the world. Tate Pets up

a competition, it's a very bad because it's a point to it's at the end

but it was all the I'm everywhere, I did all. And then at the

end, there, I thought had a problem but I didn't not what

to do you do you leave you're going to write you like this do you're doing like that's yeah,

so that's so after during this discussion that stuff me said okay but what's doing,

then I said I'll have to work to work and and that it's a shock

for all the world because it's the last that I think that I think

that people it was it's it's too it's too much you know I'm on

an island of the boat that Then, the captain, he said, you embark or not, I'm obliged to embarking this time because if I had said,

let's me be thinking, I'd continue to work. He'd have to be there. So, then, he'd say, when they'd start, I'm like, now. But it's like,

I'm like, I'm like, now. It's 10 o'12 at 10 o'clock. The afternoon, we've made, we've made,

we've made a zoom, the collective, all the enterprise, I'd have announced, Fuck the Falk the time. Fuck the Bowe message

Not an ambiguity. I'm expused. I'm out. Steve and PA devene the boss. 100% confidence on

them. Chao. Is that, at this moment that you would be a little more?

No, because I didn't know in what I embarked. So, you had an anxiety

can't, I've never fuming, but I imagine, you know, when you decided

to stop to get to the 30 December, like, the three in the first hour, you're like,

you're like, yeah, I'm going to get to my life on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

what's you do you do? When you're, when you're when you don't, when you're it's a

200 km to the time. It's the end of October, three or four October, I'm going to make it for

the Halloween. I've been three weeks, you've never seen a house to like that my own

to wear the all the show, souries everywhere. It's I'm occupied. Creativity,

too. Yeah, and I've really liked that. The month after, but what's you do?

I'm doing the mnage in the photo of family. I'm going to the mace on the photo of family.

We're going to pass on France. We're going in France, in the family. It's like, I had

been a project, I had been to do something, I was in February only that I had started

to go to a psychologist, so it's first that I saw not that's not it's not that it's,

you know, it's, it's, And it's It's been It's been a Bound to realize Oh shit, okay

I'm sorry In fact, you know In the time Malad You have to Gyrise? It's been It's not like

The last month You're having a Like, I'm a I'm sorry I've even Not used Terms

Burnout or Episement Professional I'm like I'm fatigued I'm You're not You're not

Fatigue You're not You're like Yeah I'm I'm off. Like your life,

it was pretty it's a man, it's it's a few that. And it's it's a pretty much

of time. It's a pretty because I've been the time, I wanted to how I

did it, and it's where I got to all that I did get over that I'm very content of

you're doing back, then you're at a moment you have to start to try

I'm I've been trying to two, three days a month, no, it's not it's not

I'm doing there I'm re-arreted and then you know, you know, you know, you know,

sometimes you realize something but that it's not evident for you, you know,

I had a heart to come to come to be my my gyropote

that said, you've never to come, but then, like, well, then,

like, no, you'll have a new, normal, normal. I'm like, oh shit, let's have

all changed there's all right, you know, there's a moment of a moment of the moment of I'm going to get a

badado on the space and then the person pose to the other person is that you would say,

and the person who has responded to tack-o-to-tack we, we're in the space? Is it

I'm going to go to the space? Yes, I'm like, oh shit, we're the night,

the night, I'm in the class, we're in the space. I've never realized that it was 45

when I living in the space. A planet of the space. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, there's, like, there's, not long time, when my psychologist, she made

realize that you an immense difference between the esteem of and the self, and how,

it's so, how it's got, I've been a head of chlorophyil, and, to photosynthase

at the school, and we're not about about the esteem, and we're just, you,

it's like, some, the tools, of the of the of the life essential.

And then, to think, to think, to think, the good questions, there I've seen these games

major, because there, I had the good tools, you know, to change a point with a furchette.

Impossible. And in time, you know, that's a thing that something that's a way,

so, if you had to start, you'd have been to come the same without,

the cayo had been to be you're still at the same always, you're

And then you say, I'm trying to say, I'm going to say, you're a lot of the same way. So, so, ah, no, it's passionate to that, you know,

but you know, to say, to say, to be there that's an admissible. You know, it's a cost you a fortune,

that, not all the people who are all the people who are people who people who can't be able to

imagine, how people, simply, in course of the money, they can't not have been the answer,

that they're going to, because, the life of their family. Because if you had not had not had been in, it's a

idea of, well, if I didn't, if I had not had the money, to pay it that you

have not, you know, that's on Google, and you say, help me. But you know,

I'm, so, so, so, so, so, I, you know,

I'm, you know, I'm, that's, it's, my work, me, to see,

to see, to see, to see, to see, to know, a gerotherapite every every month,

at $200 when you when you're you're having to see if you have been to see you've had been

to be there would be to be aggravated enormously but yeah so you know so I've got so I've got

so I'm so you're still like to like to say related to at the money yeah

yeah and if if I had talked to if I'm to the what's the what's

what's what has changed in in The Nicola the before

had had been to be able to the Nicola of today he

know his value and my priority is re-devenu me my being

my wife and my family and I said that it's my

priority but I don't don't I'm there my

priority and I'm just on the way to to their to be able to

because to have a father who's that's having a year, having a

a papa an patient, having a having a time, who is fatigued not an energy,

it's not the papa that I'm a quote what's what you know what you've

put in when you you've made in the how you how you how you know,

I've to come to have some of the idea. The creativity and the creativity

the put of procrastination The espoor when you're you're you're doing, you're yeah

yeah um um these little things, you know, some of

the world will be to be probably that's probably, but the other

day I'm super fatigued and and now I'm to

to me listen, you know, but I had, I had, I was quite working a time,

and it was very, you know, we'd be able, you know, and then we're in the garage, and then, I,

I've been, to, like, to get to to get, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm going, we're going,

we're going, to do you know, is the idea of your emotion, that's, the regard

of your own, the regard of your time? No, it's the I was, I'm not, you're still

fatigued. You're still It's something as simple that. I'm a big victor

to learn that's my own my own my own my own to be in something

something something of the accessible yeah yeah and I'm like nice

I'm I'm and I'm so, we go to see, we see, we see,

I'm just a human like all the person to see that you see that you're

be capable to be the father that you want to be to know what you're to know you know you know

you'd that's that's the that's the place that you could have it's like you've been

you've you've got to that you've probably she's like she's she's she'd

she'd she'd she'd she'd be totally I'm so much you're

you're having to be of sport, it's to be doing, it's to nourir the energy, you know, I'm saying,

I'm glad we're doing and I'm doing it, she's like, I'm glad to me, and then

all the victories that we've had been I never savoured because there have had

other project, there were there's a other victories to but there, but there,

it's a victory that I've savoured. It's cool. But because you've

felt you, it's, you know, when we roll at 100,000 at hour, and that all the whole people attend a little

after we, and we're, we're not the time of that's the thing as well, the thing. No, and

I, I was like, I was, I was, I was, I would be not,

I'd not what to do, you know, and to, to be, to be, without power,

in some sort, when, even my projects professional, I'm, there's,

there are that's that's not that's not doesn't know, but, you know, I've got a control, there, I have zero control on myself. The image of deboled the escalier is

strong, in your case, I think, it's true. For that, you know, I think, I've really quite in the life. How much, I've never deboled the escalation of my life. Why, I think, like, I, think, I, at it, I'm at the earth, in, in the mirror.

You had to punged the me? You know, when you punged, some mirror, the expression, in the laros, there's a photo of me with my face in the mur, you, you know? But it's But there's You've got

to get there You're really You're really You're really You're from and you're

sure Because there there's there's there's there's a cancer, there's

there's not there's there's a There's there can't talk, you know, the entrepreneur

is good there's there's plenty of beautiful and I'm because I know I'm

because I know I know that and I know it's a world of excess and it's

not the world the world the world the At the level of the hygiene of The legion of The life, it's really not the world The most sin.

So, yeah. You've quitted your world's survy for the, for the, well, really, and, and, you know,

it's really a, I'd say, not a combat, but it's, it's, it's a reflection everyday of, how I'm

feel, you, and I'd hope that it may be more a reflex, you, but it's I think I'm not

because if if I go and I'm a 300 kilometers hour. You know,

I've had the big great deluxe in my malchance. I love to work.

I'm like I'm my projects me nourice. It's not a patron disagree

or of the colleagues of work that I'm up it's me that's

me I'm not sure me control to and and

I'm I'm totally the cordon chos because because I've

made sport and I've made a high-level. And the sportive of a high-of-nibus

is the person that's the most maladivable attention to the health

physical and they look, he looks, the summer is primordial, the

recuperation, the effort, the musculation, the, the entrepreneurs, we'd have all,

we'd all do so, but the entrepreneurs that is a sport extreme, we're

always the pernied to do and at the end, you know, you finish with the bobo

that they're that's, but I'm I'm thank you for because there many people who are not

and it's that's not, they're not more, you know, it's to liberate the power,

and in plus you're an man, and we're we're talking about the suffrage silencius

of the people who that's a moment of a moment of a and there there's

that's there's that's there's that's there and to and to have

to have talked and you never to have never to try a to put a professional because it was

having been to be able to you know, well I think it's a difference that's, well,

you know, I didn't, you know, you had been to be able to that. I had been to get

in a kind of in a sense of I'm not, I'm not, I'm not

I'm not, you know, I'm just, it's I'm just, I'm just, you're I'm not, I'm impuged.

You know, when you say to be reprimand in mind, I'm enerv when we we're talking to that's a lot, you'd be able to to be able to be in mind, but that

I think it's, it's to be to be able to to be, you know, re-devening their priority. We'd have to be our own

priority. But I'm not if you know Remyie Trembly of the The House of the Lidder

because Rimi is a little that's a story, you to be in an mode to be in a life all the

all the time to respond to respond to all the other and other, always, always. But it's

not you that's the image that you want that's the image that, well, it's good,

but to be able to be able to be able to the regard of the other. You know, you've already

the regard of those that you love, but the regard of the other, or the

performance, but I'm, but when I say to say me to say me so I'm

not to think you, you're superman but just have been with you, now?

Now, you do it completely? in devening, because I've had a lot of cicatrice to to be in

especially also on the famous demonstration that I've got I know what I'm I know, but it's not that

is it's still still fragile if someone could still still destabilize a comment I'm I'm not necessarily

the commenters but it's the resulta, you know, I attend these results, and if I'm not. That's the sense, that. You know, if there's someone, okay, but... I'm sorry.

So, it's important to talk to you. Yeah, yeah, but I'm sorry, my psychology, I said, you're your peer enemy. Well, yeah, because even at this level, there, sometimes it's a comment,

no, to us, it's still a commenter, no, to, it's very exigent. But you're really in the performance. It's an ultra-performer. Yeah, really exigeant to me, and it's to learn,

to accept, to calibre, so. calibre and accept that you know I'm you know I'm

I'm really like you know I'm now to have to make a lego

other way when I see my I see my my my I'm sure

I'm the little and it's perfect and it and it I'm stressed to

to make with my kids because they see not the he's not the

and I'm and I and I didn't but I had not but I'm

Like, perfect. When I do go with my my children, it's a lot of their manner. We're not. We're doing. Exactly.

When I was a-manger, hey, the chival at the letter, the trick of Ricardo, and it's like, calm, you, calm, you.

But it's a way to control my environment. Because when you do you do all detail, pretty, well,

you control it. And you get rigid? Rigid, you say, I'm She's You're only

patient than your You're gonna That's just You know, You know, You know, At least

The money, It's full, Not the fact, But the But the After that, What you said, What you mean,

She's kind of She's been She's been With someone Who had been Someone who Had been Someone who had

At a Yeah, And it And it's It's But she But she She's

She. She. Yeah, It's, It's am I'm not sure. But at the same time, it's it's a lot. Absolutely. And I'd say that we're really

we're really, you know, we're talking, we're really more far now, because before we're going to be, an team with a player that was more or more present. There we're an team, and the two players, we're there. You know, for her, Nicola, it's also to have your your own your

your your voluntity to change the things, your to do you have a

place, to have to have a place to be your a lot of someone,

who has decided to help to say that I'm I'm the most

important for me, in all this this this, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, not for the to you know, I want to do it, I want to do it, but the example is the major demonstration

that I'm doing this is, you know, I'm not for that she's, you know, I'm not for that she's very to do it, because I see that when I, it's good for me and it's good for you. But, yeah, but at the time, she, is, is an

observatrice of all what you do. Yeah. You, it's touching, that for the other also? Yeah, and, no, no, I'm caro. We're completely change

to register. Here, this is like this, at the level eros. Oh, that I'm

like that. You know you're doing four, if you're there's a little bit of the good,

well, that's not complicated. No. What do? So, do you have you comfortable to

the sphere of the spirit of the intimacyity? What have you have you want to see to

have you at 20 years? Is you at least with the nudity? What had

you would have to learn to say to the sexuality at 20 years. Perfect. I think it

so much that's a sexuality be very often mingledger with, let's say,

you know, what's more beautiful than a sexuality is a language, the sexuality?

So, with Carot, I like, I like, I'm doing, I'm doing, we're doing, we're nine

million on the earth, we're the only to be interconnected and it's a moment of connection

that's that's that you're that's not that and I'm that I'm that

that's that in my 20th that I understand that's a language

that's not just the penetration or it's whatever what you

know it's no it's and And in plus, we have plenty of couples of friends

of our age. And we're we're doing we're doing this and I realize that in the couples

it's taboo often. I realize that there a kind of of a newage as

there's the term sexuality but it's a piliate essential of a

couple in a country and that I I'd I'd say I'll see

I'm talking to say my psychologist then you're And you have seen when that? Is that

it's been with the lectures? Many of the book of a lot of

my family to my wife okay we we're we're we're

we're we're we're we're we're this moment of the world

the planet for me and I'm I'm I'm And then we're in listening to

and then you're really good experts, you know, it's the fun of the balladot you know. But, but it's

because we're a subject and we're yeah, I'm very much much and then I'm going to work

and then you listen to do and then you're there's there's a few, three, it's the same there's a newance, and there there's actually

the sexuality it should probably I think there's a question there's much of frustration masculine

by non-communication open on the sexuality. That, I discover that, I think there are a lot of women frustrated sexual who are frustrated in the life,

and that if they're a communication and could be an overtuure sexual or a better relation. In fact, it's on the plan

emotional. Also. In the sense that the relationship that the relationship in all the

relationship. In fact, it's hyperconnected so it's also the sexuality and the the exchange emotional you know,

it's like there's a lot there's a there's a through the sexuality resound this,

this, this relationship but it's the sexuality to be the same exact, but it's not it's not

it's like it's like it's like it's not it's not it's you know you say

it's a language a language I mean you're a language I'm exactly so that there

there's there's one for who it's more the act and after that's like,

I'm not not not the non of the name but I'm I think that when I'm

going to some of the preparation that's like that that it's evolved it's not

not like at the moment where we know that it's it's

more than that it's a story that's exactly exactly exactly

and after after that it's just a suit of something and no

there's there There's not a trade union in advance. It's a continuity, it's a partition. And I think it's a plait, that's when we talk of sexuality, we're talking about, or at the school,

when there's the course of, I don't know, they've never, they've been they've been to desire. But the desire is essential in the sexuality. And the desire of the women,

often and different. Yeah, the seduction. It's a present in a group. We don't know. We're not of sexuality when you're youngs when you're when you're

older, when you're more young, you know, like, we're talking, we're about the

health psychological, but there's a health sexual. Yeah, and it's very different

in all the period of my view. So, I think, for me, but... But you

you've been there, it's always been like that? Uh, yeah, you know,

um, I'm, I'd say, I think, I think we've certainly that we're certainly,

the first year 10 years but by the suite I've always been interested by the

subject yes the sexuality but you like how to be better for you the better for you

and so I'm I'm trying on two three ballado I thought that's

interesting and there there there is there there there's there there's

it's just it's like oh yeah you like yeah I'm

I'm to guard a garden secret, but I think it's an maximum of taboo and to, you know, they're saying, even if

your wife or your wife, they've got to, but at least you let's that and then you're a phantasm, and plus, you know,

and you know, I think there's a lot of, a lot of, of frustration internal, fear of judgment, fear of judgment,

and, and, fear that other , because, but, but, but,

but it's, but it's, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's, the person that you like that

well, yeah, I think that in the in the case I think it's having a good communication

yeah, to have to have to have a solidity all dependant of what's to do you have to

but it's for that I like you know my language because it's to learn to communicate with

his core, communicate with his words, communicate with the ensemble of his

sense with the yeah yeah a regard that so I understand

it's it's fun that it's fun that yeah because it's it's

to build this story, you know, and then, you know, and it's not just a question of penetration, like you know,

it's a question of intimacy with the other, that you're never so intimate with person of other than other than that?

No, no, absolutely, and, and, you know, it's, it's, it's, we're all,

we're all over, you know, so, so, a lot of stress, literally in the society, if we had a relation with the sexuality

more sane, more, or pornographic, or direct penetration, or, you know, all the excess, like the excess,

I mean, I'm saying, but, you know, all the things that we're doing, the things that, no, I,

with, with the partour that I, I've made, that, normally, but that I want to continue to

do, the being-ne-a- personal, he pass also by the biennets sexual. And then

that you didn't know, it was not the same it's not the same thing, it's sure that the desire,

although more, a little more but at a carot, you have to have to have a

love with a tautos, you know, so, so, so, so, so, I'm,

I, say, ah, you know, I, I'm, I'm ,

I'm not, you know, I'm that's, me made in the point, you know,

so, so, so, So it's what I've pussed to learn and to

want to know, but the desire how it's because I'm post a question

I'm remarked that you ask you when I when I when I saw that

when I thought she came she's like she's like she so you know it's

and it's after you know an baladow of Esther Perel I'm I'm a bit

she's I can't and then she she's she's like I was like, oh shit.

It's a explic. After, I'm not more accepted, but, you know, and also, it's con to say, but when you search the performance,

when you search to have, to want to and, well, you know, when my family,

me say, no, today I'm I'm saying, no, she has not in view, no,

I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I'm just, you know, it's just, you know, it's,

you know, it's, it's, you know, a language or sometimes. It's not a lot

with you don't necessarily. No, it's that. I'm sure. I'm I'm

like it because it should be able to it's not it's not it's not I'm doing but you

understand. Yeah, but you report it to report it to you get to me and

then I shushtray and then then I'm then you're you know when you're not being

you're not you're not a urogan that's you have not the angle no not

not the because she, she's by about her and she's respect. And she's

that. Which is the most beautiful. It's that. But the art of

the communication, really. Really. Really, the communication. And, you know, there's

people can me listen, and say, well, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's,

in a couple, to talk, to talk, to communicate, of sexuality, of being, it's not,

but it's, a couple, there, there, there, there, there, there,

I mean, I mean, you know, I mean, it's not for anything that there's a lot of times, it's not, it's not a good fit, but I think there are many people who are that's quite because there's because there's

there's something that you do you know, make a job, talk, you know, we see, we have each of things,

the things that we need together, we can live an event with and that we're not really the same

reaction face of the event. So, so we can not come the there's,

there's there's a, I'd say, there's a, I'd say, there, there's I don't know

in which tempete we're going to pass on the same. Exactly. Hey,

I'm not I'm going to do with a barado so I'm doing it to write and I'm

also, we're going to make to make it's a word, but it is not that it's not

that's like, you know, we know, and that I invite to all to do you get to

that you discover that, you know, you'd have been saying, hey, I'm

you're saying, you're, But it's not there. No. It's not that. It's not so, no. No.

I've written, you know, we're nine million. When we're doing it, we're just we're just we're exclusive.

You know, it's a link that person of other on the earth in the space. Well, we're in

we're doing in the space. Well, we know, so, and then, I'm, I've got to

other things, and it's one of the letters the most sexy that I've written to

my family without a word sexy in. Like what's a language In other You're a beau

Couple We're trying to But we're But it's that It's important It's like that's It's not Because you can

Because you can Facilmere No, and then It's really That's really That's I'm very I'm in-saint

And not in-saint I'm in-saint I'm in-saint I'm You know, I'm You're someone You're Depuise

Yeah, but Not like Not like you It has to say, you know, I mean to charge a little the battery.

100%. And it's a pretty is fascinating, is a quite a little to make a lot, in a bit of

some way, these projects to find out of the zone. Yeah, you're in the own zone of energy,

I'm sure, because your battery, you're a charge of yeah, yeah, yeah,

I'm sure that I'm sure plus, that I'm in but you know, but you're to have been there's,

there's gonna getter a bit and we're there's, yeah, it's, we're probably a march,

then we're going to be. Yeah, and then it'll be a question, Nicola, the question opto-resso. What would say the

little Nicola of the man that you are today? Oof, it will be a to a ride.

I don't not that they me say to evite tell or that thing that they made

make some made some that you have done because if the 22 April at

16 o'clock today I'm like good coup, and I'm a bad cut, and I'm a good and I'm

going to have been in some it's not if you're not if you have taken the first

at right at the story, if you'd not finish in a cut of a

case, and a story, so if I'm I'm I'm I'm sure

I'm today, it's for my good and my bad and my

bad my t'c, attach t'clock, you, you're fatigant. but it's it's a fun

it's yeah, attach tattuck he'd already that's it yeah, it's beautiful that it's because

you're a guy of action yeah and your and your life is not it's not it's not

it's not I'm my three coco are my three cocos are like so the silence

can exist not she more he talks when he dorm Okay, you know, Charlotte, she'll say, she's like, Charlotte, she had a big discussion in her chamber, you know,

let's ask, in their age of the children? 10, 8, and 5. Okay, so, so there's a lot of action at you, there's a lot, she's, she's, she,

very, very, discreet, but it's, it's very, it's a diverticant, it's, one of, we're,

we're, we're trying, an, you know, a young guardian, you know, there, I think she'll have been off the 1.

It's like, she's like, she's like, she's, so we're in a woman, often, like,

that's, that's, that are in my mother or my mother, but no, no,

it's not no, that, that's, it's, it's, it's something, but it's

good. It's a view. Yeah, thank, thank you, thank you, you're really

a grand encounter. It's, it's a lot of that. You've adored that. Yeah.

I don't see. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, now, Caroline, you're going to be content.

You're going to have to be having to say. Oh, well, thank you to have been there. It's been

really, and thank you to talk to your own of the ombr, of these moments of great vulnerability.

These fun, we have a tendency to not to be a, but I think it's for the people

that's it's not less, when we're seeing, okay, I'm not to be not all

to pass on the way to the way to it's important to be able to get a lot of it's a

absolutely, and it's really it's really important, and it's really to say, I'm going to have done,

so you know, so you'll be not, the door to the escalier, levy the hand. Thank you

much. Thank you very much to all of having been there, and we're on the

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