Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #161 - Alain Lefèvre | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Alain Lefèvre est un pianiste et compositeur reconnu à travers le monde. C’est un artiste hors norme qui a su s’imposer dans l’univers musical par son talent, mais aussi par son tempérament. ...Il s’attarde à l’essentiel, au ressenti et à l’authenticité. J’étais particulièrement heureuse de le recevoir.Une rencontre où rien n’est ménagé. Il va droit au but. Il aborde, entre autres, l’intimidation qu’il a subie pendant des années, l’éducation qu’il a reçue de ses parents, l’amour qu’il portait à sœur Berthe, qui a changé sa vie, le grand amour de sa vie, Jojo, avec qui il partage son quotidien, ainsi que l’évolution de sa carrière.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:21:44 Cartes vertes00:46:58 Cartes jaunes01:14:01 Cartes rouges01:28:06 Cartes Éros01:40:46 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.Découvrez la nouvelle collection MarieClub : Espace mieux-être et Ouvre ton jeu de notre boutique en ligne. Une sélection inspirante pensée pour vous accompagner dans votre quotidien.✨ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boutique.marie-claude.com/⁠

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Starting point is 00:05:46 I know, I'm not that the children, it's a person, it's a person, I'm
Starting point is 00:05:48 a man, I'm of Alain Lefeb. Alain, it's a pianist, it's a great composer, also he has
Starting point is 00:05:55 made his preven with all the albums that he has made. It's, how I, how I'm,
Starting point is 00:06:01 how I'm, how I'm, I mean, to say, it's like a chevalier of the music classic.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's someone who put the music, I've had a school of music at
Starting point is 00:06:11 Rivier Dul, and Alin went to us to know, Alin, he did
Starting point is 00:06:16 do the concerts benefice for offering, for Offer some money for our students
Starting point is 00:06:21 have more service. Alain would offer also completely gratuitely of course of our teachers
Starting point is 00:06:27 to our students in piano and really for a great master like you to bring this time that
Starting point is 00:06:33 to offer his time it it's always you'll have Alin Lefeb and if you listen your music and
Starting point is 00:06:40 take the time to go to listen to the music of Alin Lefeb it's a good, it's the music
Starting point is 00:06:45 that makes the music that do you have repri of great compositor but he has also
Starting point is 00:06:48 his So, to know that it's Arreight here today there's a story that's a little
Starting point is 00:06:54 a story that not always been a lot of and I'm a hard to see what the game will be
Starting point is 00:06:59 to offer but I'm that we learn, and I see that that's that person
Starting point is 00:07:05 that's being to be able to heart, so you place to Alin Lefe at a
Starting point is 00:07:11 moment of you realize that you have not no money and you and you
Starting point is 00:07:17 have been have been very helped, but I wanted also to, so I'd
Starting point is 00:07:23 don't know the course of piano, and I did also the piano of accompaniment for the
Starting point is 00:07:26 class of ballet. It's not the class, it's not the class, the opera of Paris,
Starting point is 00:07:31 it was the 12th and the 13th arrondissement, it was, there, I could say,
Starting point is 00:07:37 it was a trough of broad, it was a certainitude for me, and I had been,
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'd have made, and I'm like, and, as, As I like I like
Starting point is 00:07:47 always the perfume I'm I'm going to be in the perfumery because at Paris
Starting point is 00:07:52 there's a lot of there's a lot toilet that I wanted to have been
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Starting point is 00:08:05 and I realized that I had I had I've not I'm not I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:08:10 not. So the courage not necessarily to say I'm not the for
Starting point is 00:08:19 it's but to get in the perfume and to say with a modesty to
Starting point is 00:08:26 the dam that I know that I'm I'm going to and I'm sure and I know that in the
Starting point is 00:08:34 people are sometimes what's I've made at the time a concert at Paris in a cell
Starting point is 00:08:40 that was a little and I had I had to if one of
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Starting point is 00:08:52 I've invited to my concert. She's, she's, she called Madame Martin, I remember again. She had been
Starting point is 00:08:57 at Villeille there where there was the market. And it's I'm very much because I'm very much of courage
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Starting point is 00:10:36 is there before me, it's really a person for who I have a great, grand,
Starting point is 00:10:41 admiration for the man who he is, for the career that for the fact he's, a big
Starting point is 00:10:47 pianist to come around the world, a great composer also. And then, and then we'll forget, I think, for Alain, because he has interpreted the grand, but, uh, the other than the grand, he is also a grand.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So, well, so, I'm here. I'm here. I'm really content. It's a long time that we've seen, and then-tort,
Starting point is 00:11:07 you're not there when I did the open up when I said to people that I did the school of Music of a Rivier Dulw,
Starting point is 00:11:13 and you've been to offer, to offer, these concerts Benefices, among other to us help us
Starting point is 00:11:19 to be in a school of music. You've even been made to make a concert benefit for the reparation
Starting point is 00:11:24 of the piano, the center cultural of Rivier of Loo, because you said, there's a problem.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I'm a maestro, but I could be an problem of sound, but I'm continue the
Starting point is 00:11:35 concert, but I'm going to you're a elegance rare, and you're also offered
Starting point is 00:11:40 some class of MET gratuitly to be able to it's not nothing, you let, you let's,
Starting point is 00:11:46 I mean, it has left a trace incredible, but I know with our students also, the grand Alain Lefeb who's arreight for us, who we look
Starting point is 00:11:54 and who talk of posture, of dootet, of musicality, it, it's, it puts all the rest of your life,
Starting point is 00:12:01 these comments that, you know, it's bizarre because I said to France Gagnar, who is my attachet
Starting point is 00:12:07 of press for pretty 20 years because I'm a man I think, I think, the fidelity
Starting point is 00:12:12 in the love. That's, it's a little the line a little, who do I'm
Starting point is 00:12:16 doing to do more long term. And I said, I'm in this morning in a car of this experience
Starting point is 00:12:24 that I'm with you have with you know, and to the cause of the cut of mutual, because the
Starting point is 00:12:27 the coup of only only that the coup of just some that's some of the passion,
Starting point is 00:12:32 of the moments where the minds and the people and the and the
Starting point is 00:12:38 time the force to pursue in the life. Because all of everyone,
Starting point is 00:12:43 we know today that the life is not easy for many, many people.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And what is what you know, we're going to talk in the field of the action. I'm
Starting point is 00:12:53 implicated this year for the foundation Holbroory. I'm I'm rammace I'm
Starting point is 00:13:00 I'm I'm going to get a lot of for that there is some of there's an
Starting point is 00:13:03 amelioration. I'm here for also the opera of Montreal. Tomorrow I see at this
Starting point is 00:13:12 concert of this cell of concert Beaux, etc. When, I'm a infant, apparently
Starting point is 00:13:19 it's a cent on my accent, but the Quebec me have all I'm all right, I'm in the Quebec. And that, I don't
Starting point is 00:13:25 for trying to be kindy, but I've always had this idea that we had a to redone when something
Starting point is 00:13:34 we're a part, and I'm I'm a pianist, why? I'm a because I have been
Starting point is 00:13:38 by the seurs of the Congregation of Notre Dame, the seurs that were devu-a-deged, of the
Starting point is 00:13:44 women who made a very much, I'd have to have a year of course of a year of
Starting point is 00:13:49 a year of a year, I have often six hours of and as herbert was a
Starting point is 00:13:55 goodmande and they had no to have a lot of no, the Saturday,
Starting point is 00:14:01 it was St. Hubert with some placate of chocolate and I
Starting point is 00:14:05 was just like a malade mental and I'm like yesterday I've
Starting point is 00:14:10 had been the van I was the bar Kitt-Kate the chips that's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:15 I mean, my, my chips, it's, I can't. Because it's an interdue when you total, total, I mean, my own
Starting point is 00:14:21 my own my own there's been, there's been, there's, you know, to see, access, now,
Starting point is 00:14:26 very, good health, me, but Alan, if you're a six great, health,
Starting point is 00:14:29 it's because your parents, you're very made sure, and I, and it's special, it's been special, a,
Starting point is 00:14:35 infance, when finally, your mom, we, we, we're in Villeemar, at Villeemar,
Starting point is 00:14:40 you, It was a park where the people and my little colleagues of the school my mother, she, at the prenton
Starting point is 00:14:48 culled the pies to make some light to so you'd imagine a little the decalach the guy who did the mrs.
Starting point is 00:14:56 The mrs. The man of the fend, it's full, you know, it's, but that's a little
Starting point is 00:15:01 my infance but, but I'm there's, no, no, any part that are
Starting point is 00:15:05 many people, but it's sure and certain that the chips, the hot dog, the hamburger, the pizza, There's a real pizza, not the new pizza
Starting point is 00:15:14 that's all-dress, that? Yeah, yeah, right. With the crote and paste? Yeah, okay, okay, we're trying to. That's always an exitation for me. Okay, it's rest, so. Always. So, yeah, wait, we do you have pleasure.
Starting point is 00:15:28 We'd tuff a pizza. Listen, this night, I'm invited, well, it's not important, and the guy really would be gentie. Listen, the list of the propositions was extraordinary, I don't know, we're in a feinted of pinted,
Starting point is 00:15:41 and I said, I mean, no, can you have the time of the barbecue, the hot dog and the hamburger. I think that the guy no croyded not. They thought it's a joke. But because, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:50 the music classic is associated to something to something of a, I don't know, very, very pure like an alimentation.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, I'm doing that, and France made a good a good car do and I'm to get with the
Starting point is 00:16:05 friegly and move. Because I like I'm like, mouloges the world and the verve
Starting point is 00:16:09 but apparently it's not necessarily what you the better than the vitamin C. Well, I just didn't know so. So, when we're to
Starting point is 00:16:15 make a pleasure, it's so. Really, sincerely, totally. I mean, I don't know if you
Starting point is 00:16:20 you'd remember the restaurant, Dillalow, who was, especially Villeamard. Look, for
Starting point is 00:16:26 me, it's these souvenirs, but it's always in cachette. At that, in my
Starting point is 00:16:31 chamber, I made the newriture that I made in cachette in a in a little in a
Starting point is 00:16:35 place, in a place, it's, I imagine? I'm, it's bizarre, I'd
Starting point is 00:16:44 have to be sure to do you because with you're good, so it's always dangerous for me. I detest
Starting point is 00:16:50 all the censure. It's to say if someone want to do that it is a
Starting point is 00:16:56 good, I'm sure, I'm sure. If someone want to get many,
Starting point is 00:16:59 many of things natural, I'm very, very, but if someone has
Starting point is 00:17:03 had an want to be beer, to have a hamburger, or do have a scotch or to
Starting point is 00:17:07 not do do not do not do a sport, I I think that the real liberty is really, at a moment a moment you're
Starting point is 00:17:13 always there's always a lot of you do have able to tolerate the things. And we're in a society today who is
Starting point is 00:17:19 terribly intolerant. We have a visage extremely severe on the people who are too megres, on the people who are not, on the
Starting point is 00:17:28 people who don't know my parents say that the main time is before 10 hour the other moment it's very
Starting point is 00:17:34 very good for the health psychological. And at a moment when you voyage in Spain or in Greece or in Italy and that you know that
Starting point is 00:17:41 until 8 a 1⁄2, he makes 40 degrees, well, the people will not be in bed at 10 o'clock. They're dinn at 10 hours of the night. It's said to be that all the Spanioles, all the Greeks, all the Italian are so fused, because he's scoffrey. He's not going to be around 22 hours? I'm, I love the tolerance. I love the idea
Starting point is 00:17:58 of the tolerance. But it's good to hear of that, because justly, we're in a air of restriction, of remise in question that just to just to be to see
Starting point is 00:18:11 it's what you see, it's to be, we're not, we're not to judge what you're
Starting point is 00:18:17 doing, I'm, I'm, the children, for me, it's important, it's important that they
Starting point is 00:18:21 can't, it's important, that music, I'm not to be a time of the case, the people, the people,
Starting point is 00:18:28 the people can't, the school, on the States, 17, time, it's a chirogy plastic,
Starting point is 00:18:37 you're not in doing, you're in measure to be in question. We're not
Starting point is 00:18:43 not all all in a curdard, I'm, I'm, I mean, let the world
Starting point is 00:18:49 live. But for to come to your parents, I think that it's can't
Starting point is 00:18:55 to be to be to be in the position to in the way. In the
Starting point is 00:18:59 that, you that's what, you're that's what me don't there, but there's other other thing, and it's
Starting point is 00:19:05 your life, so you, your relation with the food. My dad, if you're in a dog, if you're at least,
Starting point is 00:19:12 but I'm for me, what's the better than a good dog has been a whole, there's a little bit of
Starting point is 00:19:18 a little, I like, oh, no, I like that, apparently, it's not chic to say that,
Starting point is 00:19:23 but I'm on, I'm not, but it's that's so that is that, is that you're ready to
Starting point is 00:19:27 to come to come to come and, it's but it's that. I said, I know that the danger with you I'm saying, you see, I do you see, I do
Starting point is 00:19:36 I do you see, I do you see, I'm saying the other day, yeah, in the pieces baroque that you have interpreted, I was sure, you know, I was BBC, you know, the, the tri that you're a little bit serried
Starting point is 00:19:48 and are a little bit far, and I'm, you know, I'm still, I'm a guy of Villemar who has been batted at Villemar, so if you, if you push, you can me try, you can't,
Starting point is 00:19:58 so, the dam, she said, yeah, but in our also, you make a little of pedal. And, now, I, I know, I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna, so I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna,
Starting point is 00:20:08 Scarlatti, Aramow, I'mo, I said, they're gonna, it's gonna, it's, you've got, you, you've got, a long, silence, I don't think not that I'm gonna be my response.
Starting point is 00:20:18 You know, we're gonna say, you know, say, the tri, I've, did what I can, I say, I'm, I'm gonna, I say, I'm gonna, but, you know, if you know that Scarlati,
Starting point is 00:20:27 you have telephoned, the art of to be interested. Yeah. Some, I mean, I mean, it's a thing,
Starting point is 00:20:33 I mean, but you're going to but you're going to it's a lot of, it's not, it's going to it's going to it's not,
Starting point is 00:20:41 you're not a problem with your pedal and your tautry and all, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So,
Starting point is 00:20:47 there, level ver, it's a question of order generic, and that's your question, you're going to
Starting point is 00:20:53 see, Alain, you, you're part of, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:56 yeah, so, yeah, it's the question that's a little bit of questions that, it's for you. I like that the cardo.
Starting point is 00:21:01 So, we're going to the level of, we're going to give you. The level of young, it's some of the questions that are more specific than you.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Okay. The level rose, it's some often, well, that are more intimate, in the sense
Starting point is 00:21:14 of reflection, in the sense of impact on the life. Okay. Nivo ERAs and it's, we talk, we're
Starting point is 00:21:19 talking, of sexuality. Okay. Obviously, you choose, the questions to give to respond.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Opto-Reso, it's And it's a question all in d'uessor. Often it's a very much it's a bit like a very much
Starting point is 00:21:32 we're going to see how much we're going to get to the answer to you know that's you're too long that you're having to be on the table
Starting point is 00:21:41 I pass to the question super you pass to the table. Okay, because you can you're going to you're doing
Starting point is 00:21:48 five. I'm going to give five. Yeah, exactly. So five five of the same color or five? Five of the
Starting point is 00:21:53 same color. I'll get it I don't. I'll look not, I I do that Like that. It's so. You're all
Starting point is 00:22:00 They're all They're all right. They're all Yeah, so, they're very little cards. One, two,
Starting point is 00:22:04 three, three, four, and two, five. So, I'll tell you to let me to read,
Starting point is 00:22:12 okay. You're going to choose one, to the to have to get a one in the
Starting point is 00:22:17 four that will be okay, okay, okay, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:22:20 when I look, when I'm what's that's that's what you're vulnerable,
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Starting point is 00:23:29 So, what's what you're vulnerable? Why? I like all the questions. I would have been to answer to all the questions, but this, for me,
Starting point is 00:23:38 is very important today. I'm a optimist. I'm a man, I'm a good person, who's been in every morning, who were often
Starting point is 00:23:48 malice, anguously. And, I decided that the bonner it had to be able to do you know, it was not
Starting point is 00:23:56 something natural. So my nature and my nature is, my
Starting point is 00:24:06 motor number one, it's to be made. I think that the sole thing that
Starting point is 00:24:10 could make a difference in the life, is the love that you
Starting point is 00:24:13 don't and if if I did of niesery, you have to be you cut, you
Starting point is 00:24:19 mount. Here you're these invities of the Spaniiensry yeah. But I'm maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:24:26 a little example, I'm a little example, I am a lot lot of the natation, I'm a
Starting point is 00:24:31 right of because when you're a pianist you have to make attention to the arm,
Starting point is 00:24:34 and I'm, and I see always when I'm in a place, the plasements, the plagues
Starting point is 00:24:41 which are a bit what we're called so-s- people, it's people, it's
Starting point is 00:24:45 people, And, and, I'm, I don't know, I'm not the language, but I'm saying, I say, I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:24:52 you know, it's my nature. And there's a woman who, who, I'm going to, I'm saying, me, look like that,
Starting point is 00:25:00 and saying, ah, she's a, very, clearly in English, you, you're always
Starting point is 00:25:05 very good, what's what I'm, what I'm, it's, it's, it's, I'm fatigue,
Starting point is 00:25:11 I'm saying, I'm, I'm very, I'm, I'm very very, I'm very, I'm very,
Starting point is 00:25:15 So I said, the trisomex, I said, are more than we're more than we. So, she's I wanted to, I want to I want to enter in his game, because her question had been, she was suspicious, it's not
Starting point is 00:25:29 you're very good, but it's that it's fatigued. Yeah, she had to challenge because she, because I don't know to the love. So what's what he makes the more vulnerable
Starting point is 00:25:40 even more today, is that when you decide to aim, to be made, to make, to be in a matter of automatically
Starting point is 00:25:50 you're exposed, you're exposed at these grief, and I'd say that my life, unfortunately, as it has always
Starting point is 00:25:58 been the choice of my life, it's to say, to be made, I've always, I've often been
Starting point is 00:26:04 blessed, well, you'll be people my bloodsure is not, it's not,
Starting point is 00:26:10 it's not, it's the Olympic of the but when your your heart is always pre-a-eming, to know,
Starting point is 00:26:16 yeah, then, then, you know, so that's what I'm vulnerable, it's the
Starting point is 00:26:23 infidility of the traitors, the inconstance, and also all of a coup, to discover
Starting point is 00:26:30 that, finally, what you don't or what you want to do not been interpreted
Starting point is 00:26:36 as what was at a part, it was a don, or an amoo, or a
Starting point is 00:26:41 but that's been there's a there's a distortion. That, that's, it's a
Starting point is 00:26:47 very vulnerable, it's a year to be a more more good more aggry, and I'm
Starting point is 00:26:54 the same little little little little bit of nine, 10 years, who's was in an
Starting point is 00:27:00 school and was made systematically because he was different. So, it's a traumatism
Starting point is 00:27:04 that I have of my infance. So, you you rest the
Starting point is 00:27:09 same. I've not changed. And then I'm, I don't, I'm not, malofficment. I would be able. Because you'd protect, not. It's not. Yeah, because I'm always to
Starting point is 00:27:20 always to aim, and to do it. Is it like, is it like, is it like, you need, like, some reason, to, certainly, because I wanted to do the conquest of my parents and a conquette not been, not been
Starting point is 00:27:34 received, by my part, because my parents, it was, all had been, much more interior. I'm, I'm someone of expressive. So I've puttete had to
Starting point is 00:27:42 the impression that it there was a question, but let's say it's not necessarily easy. It's not easy. My
Starting point is 00:27:50 youngness, my parents were not easy, not do you. But now, you just did you
Starting point is 00:27:55 do you, that you did you, that you're doing, we, we, we, we, we've already in a sense. Yes, we,
Starting point is 00:28:00 it's absolutely traumatizing, because it's a repetition. It's to I think that today, it's bizarre,
Starting point is 00:28:06 we're, we're talking, we're, I'm a I have a good memory, I remember, I remember, of this show of TV, yes. What I'm derange a little today is that, now,
Starting point is 00:28:16 there are a lot of people who are not, not the personalities public, but who do a sudden it, they discover that there a capital affective to say that they've been batten. I never
Starting point is 00:28:28 wanted to attire this capital political, and I, and I, I'm, I'm always, I've been always, the Quebec entirely. I've been one of first to
Starting point is 00:28:38 support the young gay in region who was made to be back to make a very that's a
Starting point is 00:28:44 little group of young that I had to be these young who were systematically batted.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It's always been an appeal for me because I know that you you are the victim
Starting point is 00:28:55 chosen in a group of people your life is a a cochemar so the fact that
Starting point is 00:29:02 I wanted that I wanted to the conquette that I'm put
Starting point is 00:29:06 some perfume, et cetera, but I had all had all Fouh, it was all were all me assassinated. And then plus you had,
Starting point is 00:29:13 you had, when you're to have a accent, you had an accent very far, oh, yeah, more of that,
Starting point is 00:29:20 I had all, no, no, I had too full, I mean, you're at how old, you're at
Starting point is 00:29:23 Vilemard? I had four years, Vileemar in the in the years in the years in the
Starting point is 00:29:29 six, 67, 68, I'm, but it's, I'm at the D'Coh, it's a a milieu kind of
Starting point is 00:29:35 that was, who were, who were there and it's not that's not that's the fault,
Starting point is 00:29:40 it's not that I'm saying, the sole thing that I'm today say,
Starting point is 00:29:47 is that the harassment at the school is an horror. Sough that you
Starting point is 00:29:55 know, that's that's that's that's now, it is by the
Starting point is 00:30:01 social the harassment, it is in these people who want to
Starting point is 00:30:05 volle your identity in time citizen, the harassment he is in the mechancestate that can be said on
Starting point is 00:30:12 the resos social, it is everywhere, everywhere. So, for me, today, it's almost
Starting point is 00:30:18 the the chomachmars of my infancy, and it's for that I've put this card
Starting point is 00:30:23 and it's for that I've composed this last disc, I want not
Starting point is 00:30:26 to talk to they're they're they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:30:29 because they're because we have because we have been We have not the right to put it to judgements,
Starting point is 00:30:37 and we have to protect the other of what he's and that's a problem. So, no, I'm not defatist, no, I'm not pessimist, but I think
Starting point is 00:30:49 today we're pussed long. I know that I've been on Facebook for some and it's not not put six minutes to say to my
Starting point is 00:30:57 company of disc I'm not sure I'm not a moment of a I'll say it's good that we're I don't the
Starting point is 00:31:03 word to the world, but I've had any of any of the point I'm there's a
Starting point is 00:31:09 there's a there's a question, I'm going to I'm going to I'm trying to the winter to go to
Starting point is 00:31:17 New York and they're in some of the people who say, click, a other Quebecor
Starting point is 00:31:23 who does not pay his impos and that finally pass their time, so I'm what I've
Starting point is 00:31:29 did, I've telephained to my company, I said, a word because you have to make attention
Starting point is 00:31:34 when I'm saying I'm going to pay my provincial, to federal, to municipal I'm never to get to
Starting point is 00:31:39 and I'm going to get to that. So, Instagram, yes, I'm going to because I'm
Starting point is 00:31:45 really, the chas, the panda, the lapin, all that's that's the other, my company,
Starting point is 00:31:49 I said, me, why you're like, you think you to come to make to make
Starting point is 00:31:53 in a sense because I'm in Germany where I'm in Chiqui to make a cheque,
Starting point is 00:31:56 and to make sure, I'm trying to to show I'll like, et cetera, I'll do it. It's, it's a dyesage. But I like many the animals,
Starting point is 00:32:02 because I think they're perhaps they're perhaps more dangerous than you. But I'm still curious to know when you were young and you
Starting point is 00:32:09 had that at the school, because we're if she's there were some of the restrictions important,
Starting point is 00:32:14 and at the school, you have kind of there's to have a question, at what
Starting point is 00:32:18 you have the place? She the seurs? Ah, it's really that. It's my
Starting point is 00:32:22 Sir Bert. It's, it's not what I'm to say, but I'm my first grand amos.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Sir Bert, it's my grand amos. It was this person that who was very veiled in life. Oh, who had you
Starting point is 00:32:34 were in, it was, it was, it was, she was little, she was pretty, she was
Starting point is 00:32:41 very important, and she had me total. She said always, she had me called my
Starting point is 00:32:50 little chian, I'm saying, my little chian, my little chian, you're the pianist of the seigneur. You see,
Starting point is 00:32:54 she, she had, she had these these were my great-amor-a-law. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's for that this society
Starting point is 00:33:01 that constantly talk to is a society episant, because the love to the the cut, it's due to get a few seconds. The love, it's
Starting point is 00:33:10 eternal. I live with the souvenir of Sir Bert every year. So, this Sir Bert, she's saved. She's, you
Starting point is 00:33:18 have a, you have done the hope that the life didn't just that you lived. The life could be other things.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Because when I was when I was back to the house, my parents to flake in a volley. Because it was I'm the
Starting point is 00:33:30 culpable. Oh, man. The education French. But it means that you're in
Starting point is 00:33:34 a force, I mean, it's a matter of there's a need to be to be able to that's a time.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I'm, I'm babed, you know, I've got to get to the insominy I had nine years,
Starting point is 00:33:47 not dormier, having a fear to be the morning to live the and Today, I'm always insomniac.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I'm always... It's even... It's even... It's for that my desire of my desire to love. And that,
Starting point is 00:34:02 by example, they've never in-euvre. Because you're always the choice. So, that you
Starting point is 00:34:06 want you want to be to be able to love, I'm going to love more. And my response,
Starting point is 00:34:13 it's always the love. You have a puret by the love? I think that I'm
Starting point is 00:34:19 this... And Sir Bert has been about that. She said, there also. We have so much said, I've got
Starting point is 00:34:26 told some I've done on what it's it's sure that there's there's sure that's
Starting point is 00:34:34 but I'm my, the sir Burtt had been extraordinary it's, it's, it's it's quite a reality
Starting point is 00:34:41 that's not someone who's invented a son Auntoneette Macsicote has ensued
Starting point is 00:34:46 to do all over and she's and she's this person has done a different in your oh,
Starting point is 00:34:51 you know the that the love that a woman can give that's for that I'm that I'm like I'm
Starting point is 00:34:56 the same, when I'm like the life, for me, the future of the humanity pass automatically by the
Starting point is 00:35:03 woman. And as the humans have not not quite that, they're always in
Starting point is 00:35:08 this, so I think, so I'm say what I say, in this kind of
Starting point is 00:35:14 of a mantra, to have people like the president actual American,
Starting point is 00:35:19 and of people who are the belliqueue, mechant, tenue, orgueue, pretentious,
Starting point is 00:35:25 and who have no, no, no compassion. There's no unempathy, there's no the love
Starting point is 00:35:30 that you know, the love of a man to be able, the love of the woman, it's extraordinary,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and Sir Bert was not a sister, it's a woman, and for me, the woman has always
Starting point is 00:35:41 saved, at the school, I'm I'm going to be able to talk, you can't
Starting point is 00:35:46 you can't you can't imagine, what's what's what's what's a group
Starting point is 00:35:49 of young , Dolores Tutsia And there was another who's called My God it's been
Starting point is 00:35:58 that's the time equerated to me to be able to be able after four years. It was
Starting point is 00:36:04 these women who had made this little group of intervention policeier for me defend. The woman
Starting point is 00:36:10 my family me has always I'm always when the men want absolutely me want to
Starting point is 00:36:15 make sure me like that I said no, no you have you have not
Starting point is 00:36:20 I'm not I'm not I'm not the person for that. I'm content you have you ever, I'm sure that there's a lot there's not, but I'm not, it's not my idea
Starting point is 00:36:30 of the family. You've made allusion to your last album. I'm when I listen this album, I'm very much of melancholy. Yes. It's, it's,
Starting point is 00:36:38 it comes to us to cherish at the interior. There's something of, and of real, of melancholy, nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:36:45 But the nostalgia, sometimes, it can be a certain moments, we sense that, but there's can't even, something,
Starting point is 00:36:50 we're going to like to what you've been to talk about, I'm a about a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:36:56 you know, I'm not, you know, it's always Spotify, and the stuff, the album,
Starting point is 00:37:02 it's, the million, the millions, and the million of streams. Is, is, the piece
Starting point is 00:37:07 consolation is the, I'm not how many a hundred of million of times per
Starting point is 00:37:11 a week, is, but you know, this disc has been also, he has been during the pandemic and after the pandemic
Starting point is 00:37:22 and after the pandemic, we were all full of the sport. We said, well, the poor is behind us. And when we have seen the number of conflicts and of wars that have exploded, I, I like, I'm,
Starting point is 00:37:34 I like the story. I've got a lot, I've been a lot of history. And to see that, finally, the human are pretty always always, in the war, it's tonne. I'd nomer person, but I
Starting point is 00:37:44 know that you're a woman intelligent and you, you see the news. I'm all these governments, as they're called, to us are, we're saying that now,
Starting point is 00:37:53 in this moment, we're going to do the investment in the defense and in the army. No, no, attend, the guy,
Starting point is 00:37:58 there are these people who are many who are some people who are some people who can't have not eat,
Starting point is 00:38:03 you know, I do you do you do I do you find these million for the armament because
Starting point is 00:38:09 you want to create the power of war? The fear automatically emendra de war?
Starting point is 00:38:15 But is necessarily the chem to learn to I'm going to be, I mean, I mean, I'm saying, I'm, for the President French, he's army nuclear, but, arreterate,
Starting point is 00:38:24 stop, we're not not even, ever after. There's not even though there so, I know that in France, listen, when you see, when you see some reality of 60 years, it's a reality, of 60 years, that's
Starting point is 00:38:37 the publicers, they're systematically, they're systematically, they're grand magazines, of food, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're in France, so, so, I'm,
Starting point is 00:38:45 I'm, maybe, I don't be very intelligent. I've not been to be at the school very long time, but I don't to find how they can't find out of
Starting point is 00:38:52 six grand budget for so-d-day- so-d-day- while that finally, we'd perhaps think to
Starting point is 00:38:58 to be to our concitoying, to my view, that's what is essential. I've heard recently,
Starting point is 00:39:04 an interview of Renéleavek, young, and who had a bit of his infance, he was,
Starting point is 00:39:12 he was, and I'm I said, ah, it's not an idea politic that I said, but it was kind of a other. It was a dimension of an end of an end up who had this space of an echo and of earring for the population. Is that our politicians today have set orleans for the population? I don't think. When we saw, you see, the President American who has said that, well, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:37 the inflation is a catastrophe, but they're so full. But, I think, there's the danger of the politicians, and, when I'm con know, I'm say, you know, to have the impression to meet the people by the
Starting point is 00:39:47 social. That also. And not to go in the door to say good old people. There's a great difference
Starting point is 00:39:53 between the two. When we say, we're now, we're talking, you don't know, it's not
Starting point is 00:39:59 the same thing, it's not in their milieu. When we get, when we go over the people
Starting point is 00:40:04 where they are, we know, we understand the middle, we're talking on the the lacuene,
Starting point is 00:40:10 the carance, but you don't know there's no, there's no, there's not there's not,
Starting point is 00:40:13 There's not a... So it's important to continue to go to to go to where the people. I think it's not in your
Starting point is 00:40:21 the people is not the public is not going to be the public is at their people. When I was doing to the port-a-port we had to come
Starting point is 00:40:28 to all the and more to say, but I'm still at the position to continue to go to go to
Starting point is 00:40:34 people who will be at port to turn to but you don't know to be it's that you that's that is that
Starting point is 00:40:39 it's that that's what it's that's what it's that's what we're in a presential at a moment. It's more simple to their response,
Starting point is 00:40:45 you know, I'm I'm in quite with you, when we see, when we understand. It's a new year, you know, it's bizarre
Starting point is 00:40:52 today because we've got to start an interview, you were talking, you know, my visit in the school,
Starting point is 00:40:59 et cetera, and the lady who me talked to my visits at Valdor because I
Starting point is 00:41:08 adore the Bittibia. I know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I like Dubai.
Starting point is 00:41:12 You know, Val-Dar. I mean, I'm in Baltimore. But Caroline, with me, it's a Val-Dor.
Starting point is 00:41:18 She's not. She was in my concert, but that she has made my concert that I did my
Starting point is 00:41:23 valour. That's my recompense. You know, when the people do, it's what your
Starting point is 00:41:27 more my big my my own my great, it's
Starting point is 00:41:29 when I had to , I've been, and I had been to sit a few
Starting point is 00:41:35 of the one of a few that had not a a very noise, and that I was,
Starting point is 00:41:39 I'm very attentive to their response in saying, we've been all these people are
Starting point is 00:41:45 I'm talking, you have heard the music of you've been not much, why? And there's a
Starting point is 00:41:50 little that said, because we had been in this music that had suffered. And there
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm just to play on the scene, because I play also. And it's that the
Starting point is 00:42:00 people have made a song, the of liberty, there's that there's
Starting point is 00:42:05 that's true. The rest, the glory, there's no, no importance. An infant an infant that that's
Starting point is 00:42:13 it's worth a million of dollars. It's beautiful. It's be beautiful. I'll ask you,
Starting point is 00:42:19 when I when I look in the mirror, I see. Oh, boy. I see, when I
Starting point is 00:42:28 look in a mirror, I see a person who finally, it's bizarre. D'bore,
Starting point is 00:42:34 I'm not to be able to because there are people who Oh, yeah, yeah, the Yeah, it's good, that's
Starting point is 00:42:39 very positive. I love this very positive. And when we say that I'm telling the age, etc., I'm still a little
Starting point is 00:42:45 surprised, that I'm not going to to say, oh, my God, I've been my God, I'm my God,
Starting point is 00:42:53 I'm doing, because in the earring you're going to have the earringing, apparently. I don't
Starting point is 00:42:58 that's a end up. It's always it's always. You're you're just you're the point that
Starting point is 00:43:03 and in the knee, but not in the good of the but I look
Starting point is 00:43:08 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a man of I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:43:16 there's a there are there are some of there some that's the 21th
Starting point is 00:43:22 year is a year of a year of spirituality or it's not a
Starting point is 00:43:26 that's a question that's a little in my carwold who says when you
Starting point is 00:43:31 want you want to you have a reason you I think there is an
Starting point is 00:43:36 espoor. I think that the is today, it's to say the hope and that there is a concern social, worldwide,
Starting point is 00:43:44 that there is that there are there are there people who are there we're not in this dynamic,
Starting point is 00:43:53 to always talk, like we have many people who are people that when I look in the mirror,
Starting point is 00:44:00 I'm not like a, I'm not like a Christ, I'm not like a hero, I don't know not a hero, I'm
Starting point is 00:44:05 not to do all but I see like someone who will always insistently,
Starting point is 00:44:10 constantly me bat for the values of love, of tolerance, of compassion. And when
Starting point is 00:44:19 I look what I see that these three values are in trying to disappearate. The
Starting point is 00:44:23 social is very interesting, but actually it serves a lot to
Starting point is 00:44:28 the verbalization of the hate, the mechancey. Well, but unfortunately, and it's not normal. Because there are
Starting point is 00:44:33 these both co-cote, but the movey coat take a lot of place and have a lot of impact by the good side, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:40 it's a bit so I'm saying, I'm going to not, I'm don't know, I'm going to be a good quality, so
Starting point is 00:44:46 I don't know we're not not even before what we're, in the my eyes function. But,
Starting point is 00:44:52 yeah, but that is that is you a crin, by example? Well, the eyes,
Starting point is 00:44:57 the the do you, the do you, yeah, so, in the stress to to
Starting point is 00:45:03 You know, it's to do you, it's, it's a it's a mean, we, we're always attentive.
Starting point is 00:45:07 When I'm always always there's I'm in the water in the eyes, I do you know, I've always
Starting point is 00:45:12 been minded to make attention to them, no. Yeah, because you have to understand your
Starting point is 00:45:18 sound, you can't you can't you can't when I'm when I'm in Cheki I'm in Chiquet
Starting point is 00:45:23 I'm playing the concerto in Fats Gorshwin and one of the music of
Starting point is 00:45:28 a musician that was a musician who a musician, among the millions, of millions of notes,
Starting point is 00:45:32 and he had a first note. So, one of the one of the two of I'm not,
Starting point is 00:45:35 I'm saying, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, it's, there's, there's not a
Starting point is 00:45:41 phas that you do you have not, it in my partition. When we me know,
Starting point is 00:45:48 it's a no, no, it's not in your partitions, it's not the people are a bit surprised because
Starting point is 00:45:54 when you have the orchestra on the orchestra who plays to do blue forte, that I'm that I can't
Starting point is 00:46:00 an note of an instrument. So it's let's, let's, there's been there's
Starting point is 00:46:06 my eyes when I'm when I'm when I'm did you know, I'm doing the school of the entire of course,
Starting point is 00:46:15 which had, you know, you're also, the ear absolute, and it's and it was really,
Starting point is 00:46:21 because she, she, my, my own nothing money, What, in French, it's, well, the right of the absolute, it's
Starting point is 00:46:31 a lot, you know, you know, you know, you're always, you know, I'm trying to, is it very fatigant, the london, can even,
Starting point is 00:46:37 to have the ear absolute? Yes, yeah, because, yeah, because, you know, there's, there's a time,
Starting point is 00:46:46 an animator of radio, that's not, Radio France, Radio Canada, etc., there had always this research,
Starting point is 00:46:53 the voice that's posed. I, you know, I'd tell I'd, I know, that tonality is good,
Starting point is 00:46:58 and you have a tonality that's just. So, it's not a question of force or of febless, it's that you
Starting point is 00:47:05 have the voice just, I don't give a compliment. You have a people who are other accents, other voice,
Starting point is 00:47:12 and maybe maybe they're false. And I'm it's false. They're that they're never on
Starting point is 00:47:16 the note. But that's it's an animator of radio that I'm not, that I'm not
Starting point is 00:47:22 to hear- fool. Because you you're like without the dissonance. You don't know, you're not, you're trying. Oh, yeah, like, as well, like, as I would say, I'll
Starting point is 00:47:32 I'll be, I'll be, I'll be able to beardot. We'll be able to be persuaded. Ah, no, no, no, we'll not be pursued. You have like a duance of the orreys. I've got a disease of the ear, yeah. Niveau-gone, Alain, you give me four, four, four. So, well, I'm going, vitement, and I'm going to
Starting point is 00:47:48 four, two, three, and four. I think that I'm the, I'm the né absolute. Ah, yeah. In fact, I, I sense, I feel, there, When I was in When I was in the head they're going to be
Starting point is 00:48:01 They're in saying, oh, yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm going to be in a reparator of the frigo,
Starting point is 00:48:08 I felt like the friego, but I felt like the frayon, but I'm not, and there's sure that's not good, a flood, it's not no, no, no. And in fact,
Starting point is 00:48:16 there had anything, but we're in being, it's in front, in the house, I'm going to get in the car, okay,
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm not, I'm not sure, but, you know, I'm not a real, that's even a , you're a in a meal?
Starting point is 00:48:28 That I'm like like you understand, you have a too of an awful that's difficult to see
Starting point is 00:48:33 to be able to because the I don't know if it's not a few on the mission, but I've made a roll, I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:48:44 the way very elegant at a a man, a quote of an car, an car, a while
Starting point is 00:48:49 an car, a man who had said a man who had certainly very mal-manger the veils, and
Starting point is 00:48:55 he had had considered that his siage of an airfield was like a fire at a fireball and as
Starting point is 00:49:01 we're in Quebec he's let's loose and I'm at 15
Starting point is 00:49:07 minutes I said I did go to the bathroom and there he said no no
Starting point is 00:49:15 no no no I'm he's he's he's he's he's
Starting point is 00:49:19 he might disappear there there there and I'm there you know
Starting point is 00:49:23 I was in my other toilet I'm at André Jocomo, I was,
Starting point is 00:49:27 this fudleur. I was going to see the gentlel of the van, I said, Madam, I said, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:49:34 go to be a moor. And she had been there was a there was, it's not a fereon,
Starting point is 00:49:40 it's an other style of foot. But, yeah, yeah, I'm, that or
Starting point is 00:49:46 the ture of bra. Ah, yeah, yeah, it's, it's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:49 but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, but it's very exigent, the odor. It's, very,
Starting point is 00:49:55 challenged by the odor. And it's like if all it's all right. In my head, I have made that way to think of it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's very, very prenant. I'm doing it with that. We're going to sound like that. We're going to censure this edition. She's not... She'll be made at... At the end. That's all, it's all right?
Starting point is 00:50:13 That's all right. No, but I think there are many of the people who are going to recognize in the room. What's what you have not received of your parents and who you've been able? You're still have you already arrived to not to not to feel at the height? How your
Starting point is 00:50:25 relation with the money has done? At which you knew that you would be
Starting point is 00:50:31 pianist? That's a other level of question. Yes, yes, it's a other
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Starting point is 00:51:42 How your relation with the money has elvue with the time? Well, she's sure, with the great misery that I've known. because so, so, until the age of 16 and a and me, I'm, I'm so
Starting point is 00:52:00 I'm at the level collegial on piano at Marguerite bourgeois, and we say,
Starting point is 00:52:08 it's going to be to have to be the first, I'm going to start, because it's,
Starting point is 00:52:13 first, it was a very grand professor of music. It's a woman musical
Starting point is 00:52:16 it's a grand, grand professor. And the school Juilliard At the time, I I'd talk to
Starting point is 00:52:26 1979, I think that it was it's already 25 to $30,000 US per
Starting point is 00:52:31 year, that it was just for the students. Not only my parents had not the money
Starting point is 00:52:35 to say, my father and more and more that, it's impossible. And there
Starting point is 00:52:45 there were three great schools. You have New York, you have Paris, because
Starting point is 00:52:48 Paris you had Pierre Sank who had a great master, and you
Starting point is 00:52:51 had Dieter Weber at Vienne that a grand professor of piano,
Starting point is 00:52:55 but there, it had a little the language, and you had Enrich Nehaus at Moscow. It had
Starting point is 00:53:01 four, four. And, um, so, we decide that I went to to Paris,
Starting point is 00:53:10 but my parents, my parents, my parents, they've been left to to Paris, if you with a
Starting point is 00:53:17 little sum of that my parent that had done, which was at the time, of what we
Starting point is 00:53:23 would say, 10,000 franc. And, And he had done also a piano, a piano and I'd have been in a chamber of bonn.
Starting point is 00:53:33 A chame dexterous, it's a fourth-eighth of two square Emmanuel Chabriere. And the chambonne were two-estead the sixth-em and the seventh-est-est-est-est-est-est and
Starting point is 00:53:43 it was, basically by people very poor who'd in the construction. There had a toilet per each, so it
Starting point is 00:53:52 so it, it's to revere to my love, of the perfume. And the Chambre of Bonn was, there was a piano, a lice, and a little, a lavabo. And there, I had been,
Starting point is 00:54:03 so, this co-con familial, because it existed, I had been plonged in what I could tell today, with the more sincerity, a cochement, where I pleaded for the weeks and the time. I'm just to find, at a pain, to manage. Because you had
Starting point is 00:54:24 not an hour. I had nothing. I had nothing. My loy my loyreys, I think, it was 390 franc at the time. We're in 79.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And a day I went to my course to piano and I'm going at the time you have, when you were
Starting point is 00:54:39 at a conservator, you have the NEP that's an insurance for the students. We're
Starting point is 00:54:43 to get to the hospital. And there, I'm reminded that my pair me had said, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:47 we have some that I've that I've had been when my parents were French
Starting point is 00:54:52 and he called Kito Ginette Baruch. It was the only person to who I called to Kito, he said, oh, you're the son of Andre, and I said,
Starting point is 00:55:00 yes, I'm at the hospital, etc. And I don't not that for to make the effect. I don't, I don't know to do anything.
Starting point is 00:55:07 So, so he comes right to get to do a certain age. He comes with his car, he came with his car, it's not
Starting point is 00:55:24 a young, very rich, and he came to see the hospital, you, and it's a It was a Vandredi, we're to go to the campaign tomorrow, you go to
Starting point is 00:55:29 get to be in and I'm I'm going to let's see do you know, I'm catapulted at Paris
Starting point is 00:55:34 with the French conservator of the it's, it's rigid, I imagine. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:41 of the man, and, you know, it's, it's, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:46 you know, and if, always, everyone did, they'd all the people,
Starting point is 00:55:49 they'd get, they'd some, they'd be chofrette, some of, de naysery,
Starting point is 00:55:53 you know, you're not, I'm not, I'm a pianist who's in a good mood, and it's not, and it's not,
Starting point is 00:55:59 you know, I don't know, I'm going to to do it, I'm going to do the artist, and I'm interested not,
Starting point is 00:56:04 and the night, and the night, so I'm going to be part in, and there, it's going to
Starting point is 00:56:09 last time, the night the night, the night, the first night, so, I, I'm pleaded
Starting point is 00:56:17 all the night, and they're all the night, I'm I remember, and Jeanette Quito, it was like a person, a great person, and Jeanette, his wife, they had a few, he sashoa, pretty of my bed with Jeanette, and it's very, it's authentic, like two and two, they're four, he said, "'Ecourt, my son, our wife will be married, there's a room in the house, you
Starting point is 00:56:37 can rest, you'll be our son.'" That, I've been, that in my life. And he had adopted, they've been like, like, and they've been adopted, like, they've been They were treated like a son, they've been like him, they've all done. All, all, all,
Starting point is 00:56:50 all, all, all. They were, surprised that my parents had had taken the responsibility to envoyed a young
Starting point is 00:56:56 without defense at Paris in the Cajoloo. So you've quitted the apartment Bonn?
Starting point is 00:57:02 I've all did, you have quit you. You've got to be a conservator,
Starting point is 00:57:08 no, there's a conservative, but I've been Cucunet, em, had been difficult, and I've had been these beautiful miracles.
Starting point is 00:57:19 There are some of them there are some of, Kito, Kito, but, no, I've had a lot, beaucoup, beaucoup, many, the love that Kito and Jeanette
Starting point is 00:57:29 have done, it's for that I also, you know, all what we can understand of hate against the Muslims, against the Jews, that, it's,
Starting point is 00:57:37 it's, it's me gout, it, it's, it's, they're, they're not Jewish, they've all done, and they've been treated like a
Starting point is 00:57:45 a son, it's, That's been a turner in your life? Total. That is enormous, because I'd have not put up to do you imagine.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I'd have not put continued to at a conservator. At the course, the course were public, and it was a level, and in
Starting point is 00:57:58 the space of six months I was found in one of the more great cell of a party, to play with a more
Starting point is 00:58:03 grand violinists that's after that I had been catapulted at Milan, I've gained the concour,
Starting point is 00:58:08 and there, the countess of the the countess of the main that's the it's like that's like
Starting point is 00:58:13 it's always with them, because the motor of my life was not my success, as it's the
Starting point is 00:58:19 love that's the love that I receive in the interior, just that's this recognition to say, cudeon,
Starting point is 00:58:25 you know, you do you, you're really, you're really, that's never been, that's my big, big problem,
Starting point is 00:58:31 I'm not, I'm not, no, no, because what you do you know, I said, it's,
Starting point is 00:58:36 I know, it's not interesting, I'm, well, that I'm, that I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:58:40 I'm, say, but I'm, it's really, it's, it's, it's not, of the false modesty. I have
Starting point is 00:58:44 no, I'm going to, I run to the same nervousity. No, no, I've got no, I'm not, no, I'm confident. I'm confident. I'm in what God can make me, because I'm working, because I'm trying, and I think
Starting point is 00:58:56 that being in some there are some resultant, but that are these values who are very yacht, you'd say, but, me, when I go to see the children, I'm talking,
Starting point is 00:59:05 me, he's going, I, say the word the most vulgar of humanity, he'd be not also surprised that when I'm talking of love or to be to be in the
Starting point is 00:59:13 they like that they have they're doing they're going to this we're going to when the young of
Starting point is 00:59:18 a country I'm to be delicate to hear their president to have a language a
Starting point is 00:59:24 pre of the pubel how they think that it's a reality and it
Starting point is 00:59:33 is a there's there's not of the hypocrisy that to be polite
Starting point is 00:59:37 and being well the politest be well-element and be able to be to be able to
Starting point is 00:59:42 be able to be in a society that's a very much in a form of democracy but there
Starting point is 00:59:49 when you're saying, the people say, well, the people are you do it's, but it's
Starting point is 00:59:55 not, it's for it's so, it's all, the, it's, I can't, I,
Starting point is 01:00:02 know, I'm, I'm, I'm, all the idea that he had been there's,
Starting point is 01:00:05 and you can, and you can't do you, but you, your life, in the in the ,
Starting point is 01:00:09 it's the relationship. Yes. It's that the sense of your life. It's a way.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah, I know, I know when you're young, you're doing, you're doing, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:18 a day, you go to do you go to do you go to the Carnegie Hall. You know, you're at 17 18,
Starting point is 01:00:23 19, you you, you, you're having, it's, it's like, when you you do it, I've done,
Starting point is 01:00:29 to do you get to my hotel, and what's I did, I'm trying to the pot sandwich,
Starting point is 01:00:32 you're a and I'm you're just that's really that that's that's the that's the
Starting point is 01:00:38 change my life, is to be able to be able to have some and have some and I'm and sincere
Starting point is 01:00:45 and to like to constantly be at the listening to how many a lot of you can't
Starting point is 01:00:53 about people, and the person, you, you attend that they and you're
Starting point is 01:00:58 you, and it's always you will say and how you, it's, so,
Starting point is 01:01:03 So, yes, the success is what we it's sure that's sure that's sure that's sure that's
Starting point is 01:01:09 a good concert, but I'm when I'm a concert that's a year I'm
Starting point is 01:01:13 I'm sure I'm to 15 minutes due to and I'm yeah, I'm well,
Starting point is 01:01:19 I'm very I'm quite and I'm not quite. And that's it's a impere. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:26 but it's an exiogyn that's because it's can't that, you know, that's the
Starting point is 01:01:31 time regard. In the same time, it's also the possibility, you know, what's what's,
Starting point is 01:01:38 you, you, you, you, you, you, you're all of, people,
Starting point is 01:01:43 and it's always impusant, to get someone who has always in a time, that's fatigant.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Someone who doubt, is someone who remit in question these things who is capable of
Starting point is 01:01:56 listening, who is capable to want to learn, but someone who don't know,
Starting point is 01:02:00 it's, it's, So it's a motor for you. It's a motor. The doubt, you don't don't p'clock. There's a certain person that the doubt
Starting point is 01:02:07 will make in sort that's right. You're right. The doubt you can't make an advance but you keep living,
Starting point is 01:02:15 you're still in the and also modest. It's never think that you But that's it's often in what you
Starting point is 01:02:22 mean, the modesty. Yes. Because you come always of where you come.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Yeah, yeah, I see. The little Alin is always there. Always there, yeah. I see
Starting point is 01:02:30 exactly I said, I've got to say, I won't not to say who I've encountered, but, let's not come to the the most great head-coronated of the planet, and I've encountered a lot of people. But one, I had a dinner that's the most grand lesson of my life. It was a great artist, which I've
Starting point is 01:02:47 had a name, it's a new like that, and it's a dinner, we're 10, a table-round. And, of course, it was he, the vedette, this grand artist there. And when he'd say a bit of it, betties, but that he's if he was always he'd be comic,
Starting point is 01:03:01 I'd think he'd think he said something he'd consider he was a trist, everyone
Starting point is 01:03:06 would be be a trist, and everything had turned around to his ego, like some that we
Starting point is 01:03:13 know. And I'm said, I'm sure to never be like that. So, I've started
Starting point is 01:03:22 to make an interview, to talk to my piano, of my concerts, of my
Starting point is 01:03:25 if you if you me pose a question very precise, I'll you'll
Starting point is 01:03:27 tell say, two years I went to Athens, I had a dinner, and the people say, ah, parlay me
Starting point is 01:03:32 to your next time, please, if you please not, demand me to talk about, the perfume,
Starting point is 01:03:37 demand me to talk about to say, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 01:03:42 I'm interested, that's not. You know, it's the relations that's the interest.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah, but it's true, because what you do you do, see, these people
Starting point is 01:03:53 they have, like, they're like, they're, they make, in value, to, You know, you're
Starting point is 01:03:58 You know, they like that They like, they like, in all the different ways, you're going to find out of the people who are like these people who
Starting point is 01:04:04 are always to be there to be there, it's correct, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. We're not, we're not, we're, we're, we're,
Starting point is 01:04:14 I think we're so, it's, for me, don't, it's not, it's not, don't, it's not
Starting point is 01:04:19 , you're talking, but I'm talking about, I think, I'm really, I'm interested, this question, on what,
Starting point is 01:04:23 what's, you have not received of your and who you've to make, and who
Starting point is 01:04:26 you can't and that's it's a question, you know, the question at the
Starting point is 01:04:35 people will be able to, and it's not a story that's not a person, because I'm not
Starting point is 01:04:43 not the people, no, but the people who never, they're never to train
Starting point is 01:04:47 their parents, but it's the fact. No, but it's a reality. We're four men, and I
Starting point is 01:04:53 do care and at a moment I'm a day of the first Canadian to to make an immense concert with orchestra at the Chans of Ilysses. And I just the concerto of Matthew. It was the first time that Matthew
Starting point is 01:05:11 played. The cell was archipleine. I've had an ovation as a long. And there was an amy who was present, who, malicement, is partied, who was in a rear-sene. She had had my parents.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And it's sure that for me, I thought that Papa-Mama, seeing the little Alain who came of Villemar, who has made all this
Starting point is 01:05:38 that he's that I don't say that he was in the Tehr of the Chands Elis I mean, I had the planet
Starting point is 01:05:44 that. Plamondon, he pleured, all the people were. And my my mare had said,
Starting point is 01:05:52 oh, yes, yeah, so to my a friend who's a psychot, but he said, you know, I have a other of my Fis who played in a little church, you know, like, still, I have a son of a church that in the Grand North of Quebec, she's, she, she has not wanted me a Puce.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And this ami, psychotra, has said, you know, Alain, I've pleaded long time after having to have your parents because I realized all that you had to suffer. My parents, no, won't have not done a push. What's a bit of the reconnaissance? In the poor than that. My father said always,
Starting point is 01:06:27 Jill, Philippe, David, we're sure, but Alan, we never knew if it's the factor, the leitier
Starting point is 01:06:32 or the liverer. And we're also, Alan, he's, there's, Alain,
Starting point is 01:06:39 is vulgar. No, I, no, I'm too, knew, I'm too. Vulgar,
Starting point is 01:06:43 because I wanted to because I'm to have to be because I were, because I'm
Starting point is 01:06:48 because they're bad-euro, it's not a question, and it's not a I'm a critic of my parents, it's a reality, because my critique, it's a demi-monsoon.
Starting point is 01:06:57 But, you're new, your vision of the view, is your is a half-plain? Or a-half-sive-old? A-moly-full. That's that, huh? Yeah. My joy is present. My joy is present.
Starting point is 01:07:09 It's, I mean, you know, when you're up, the morning, that your father is, your mother-at-trice, and that your friends are in a new bed. My choice had been to be able to be able, and I'm going to be able to be able to to be planted for after that, to enter, and me to have been back. Because you
Starting point is 01:07:23 have been your life in the mode of your life? Yes, but you live?
Starting point is 01:07:28 It's the mode love. It's in your own. It's not that means. It's not
Starting point is 01:07:33 that I'm right. You know, and I'm a great risk. Well, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:38 that's the, it's the more vulnerable. Yeah. It's accepted to that to be a choice. It's been
Starting point is 01:07:46 always, it's it's for that, you know, no, it's not, it's not It was easy, and Maricloid, we could have made eight emissions.
Starting point is 01:07:52 My parents have even not wanted to my marriage. He's not he wanted to and he's a man, he said,
Starting point is 01:07:59 if you've been not on a marriage, I'm not going to make a marriage. And why he wanted to be married? Because my parents wanted to be married.
Starting point is 01:08:06 And I, when I had met Jojo, it's the love of my life. Jojo, I talk of all these women who who have,
Starting point is 01:08:13 what Jojo has for me, what Jojo has for me, but nobody can see. I said, we're surely to jojo
Starting point is 01:08:20 at jojo at a moment of a moment of done that. Jojo, well, Jojo, she's in me,
Starting point is 01:08:23 she's a part of Jojo, I'm in the result of her love. I'm not there's not
Starting point is 01:08:29 there's not there's not not ever be not doing that. For them, I'm trying to I'm tromper,
Starting point is 01:08:36 here, is it's, is we're is a pay with the parents like so? Yes,
Starting point is 01:08:40 I've made the part internally yeah, yeah, yeah, because I
Starting point is 01:08:43 have always to, I, to people that people had in war with their parents, they're said,
Starting point is 01:08:48 you can't ever grandir if you continue the state of war. That you don't know not what your
Starting point is 01:08:55 parents have been at least but their love to be in war, it's absurd. I, Papa, Mom, I love,
Starting point is 01:09:02 I'm, I'm going to be able, I'm with my parents, my parents have been a life terrible,
Starting point is 01:09:07 my parents have had a very very much, my parents come from a family, of a
Starting point is 01:09:12 poverty, but you can even you can't you can't A guyson of farm, at five a five-year, his own own, his own,
Starting point is 01:09:18 his own, his own, for he's been in a firm? Is that I'm the right to judge my father? My mother, has six years, to work in a old old of France?
Starting point is 01:09:27 It's been in misery. So, yeah, my young, my parents, my parents, my parents, my own, my own,
Starting point is 01:09:34 they've done what had to do you and in and in the same time, you never be challenging for us, oh,
Starting point is 01:09:41 yeah, this liberty that you'd offered, were confronting for them. It's for that I'm. You just said, you came to say the thing. You came to say the thing.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah, yeah, I'm a crisis of the challenge. And that's been terrible for them, and it's a lot of fatigued. They were in admiration, but it's fatigued. It's sure. Yeah. It's sure, it's sure, it.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Because you touched the inaccessible for them. Yeah. You know, you were the first who he comprehends that, but that I'm a lot of impressioned. It's that. The phone, it's that.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And, somehow, I'd say that, the challenge, there had a little jealousy also that was included there's a lot of yeah, you're so
Starting point is 01:10:20 that he'd say, but is he came to it's not, because there that's tough, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:26 but that's, that's something to feel to feel like, different of his, but you, is that,
Starting point is 01:10:33 your father, you said that, but you did that, but you're different at the point that,
Starting point is 01:10:37 of your family? Oh, well, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, at eight
Starting point is 01:10:41 I'd I'd repassed my chocet, my pantalong, my chemise, I'd always have done
Starting point is 01:10:49 I'm doing I'm doing I'm a bit the my mother had not used I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:10:56 I'm making I'm making I'm I'm saying no no no no I'm a different
Starting point is 01:11:01 for that I'm I'm I'm I'm compassion for my colleagues at Vileemar
Starting point is 01:11:07 who didn't not who I It was a little special. At eight hours when you're at the school and that you sound the lavender and then you sound the
Starting point is 01:11:14 dosco, not the lavender. But you know, it's always different because, you know, even when you're coming in music, they've seen a prodigant,
Starting point is 01:11:23 you're in, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, then, you're not, and even in my macket,
Starting point is 01:11:28 I'm fatig, I'm different in my because, because, because, yes, I'm I'm a pianist
Starting point is 01:11:33 classic, but I've been with a many people, I've made a concert with Alice Roby. I've known Gino Brito. I've made the lute. I've seen, the life has no no no
Starting point is 01:11:47 frontiers. The life is beautiful. The life is fantastic. I mean, when I metry to, I got caught. It's my idol. Listen, Gino Bravo, it's is kind of something. And at a moment, I remember, I've made, I've made a concert benefit because a guy
Starting point is 01:12:00 had had been with the money, and Gino Brito Brito is coming to me, in case, if you have a day, We're we're blot, you know, it's like, you know, I mean, to see,
Starting point is 01:12:12 on the case, on the house, I'm not, I'm not, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing
Starting point is 01:12:15 think you're not doing, it's not that you're things that are beautiful. It's extraordinary,
Starting point is 01:12:20 it's the life, well, I'm a , but I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:24 I'm, you know, but, but, but, but, but, but, it's a
Starting point is 01:12:30 part of, you're not just a pianist classic, because I, You know, there are musicians when he talk,
Starting point is 01:12:39 it's a fancy to the phrase of Coluch, which is the most be the best best phrase, in my
Starting point is 01:12:43 question, a politician and that he has finished to answer, you can't put your question.
Starting point is 01:12:50 And that, sometimes, you, you, you, you, you, interview a musician
Starting point is 01:12:53 classic, you, you're talking to be to be the question, it's, it's going,
Starting point is 01:12:59 it's, it's not, it's for that there more than many of the music classic because your responses are null. It's null. The things do not be esoteric.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Today, we have a crisis, real. The people have do have the mal to put oil in their car, the nouriture in their sack. Think you that, I, it's that I think that I'm going to
Starting point is 01:13:22 talk, we've discovered a partition where there are four notes that changed during the 7thepsymphonia, because it's during an hour and a lot, what is people are going to think? For that there's a young in this moment, in Quebec,
Starting point is 01:13:33 they're an job extraordinary. There's a young chouaniar with his orchestra, he's a
Starting point is 01:13:38 work who he touched a lot of things. It's that you know. It's a point to
Starting point is 01:13:43 people that the music classic, it's do good. The young of Cite De Prairie,
Starting point is 01:13:48 it's a young, you know, city of the prairie. But they have liked. But if
Starting point is 01:13:53 ever we they're them can't they're that, they can't not they're not,
Starting point is 01:13:58 so, is we are really in a democracy? No. Is the fact that the Limnational of the election of the last president-American is the William Ciyah, is it a Fier?
Starting point is 01:14:09 Is it a fearty? No, it's not a fierreth. If there were an imme national in Quebec, it would be one of the piests of André Matthews. It would be the consto of Quebec. There will be the St. John. Again, again, zero music classic. The Fade of Canada, zero music classic.
Starting point is 01:14:26 The music classic, is not that the people don't like it, they don't know. They're not. If we don't know to our children, They don't they don't know if you say they're going to if you're doing another thing,
Starting point is 01:14:38 no, we'll just they don't know the music classic, it's not true that he's not you're not, you don't make the effort democratic to propose to the infant.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Don't he the chance at least to open a little window after that he will decide if he decides that he likes if he likes.
Starting point is 01:14:56 But you can all take it in the same time exactly. You know, it can't say, it's it doesn't it doesn't
Starting point is 01:14:59 The music classic, it's not... See, I'm going to... See, I'm going to be the music classic, the day, in the day, and in... And when there are some people who are, it's good, it's what?
Starting point is 01:15:07 You know, it's... Well, yeah, but the proposition we're not made, but... But, I think, the music classic, we're a lot of
Starting point is 01:15:13 the restanty. And we have got to be certainly, presentment, to be at the interior of so, with all what
Starting point is 01:15:20 what's going to see, with all the I'm... But, in the you know, you you're really a... Tantto,
Starting point is 01:15:26 how I said, a chevalier, of the music classic. It's a I mean, I presented like that's a before you're
Starting point is 01:15:30 because you have this this way, you have this this whole you do the action for, you
Starting point is 01:15:35 go to do you know, we know, we're democratize on the music we, we all the apport,
Starting point is 01:15:41 we're doing, we're depose. Niveau Ruge, Alain, you give three questions,
Starting point is 01:15:44 you will respond to a single question of this one, one, two,
Starting point is 01:15:48 and three. Thank. At how time to have you have you have been to be
Starting point is 01:15:57 respond tell? And what is your report with the death? It's
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Starting point is 01:17:33 uh, yeah, Kito and Ginette me have been but I wanted also be able to, so I'd don't know
Starting point is 01:17:40 the course of piano and I was also the piano of accompaniment for the class of ballet. It's not the class, it's not the
Starting point is 01:17:47 class, the class of the 12th and the 13th arrondissement, it was, there, I could say
Starting point is 01:17:54 that it sent the trough to bra, that was an certainitude for me, and I'd had been,
Starting point is 01:17:59 I'd pay four, four, four, five, of a year, and they'd had done
Starting point is 01:18:00 like that. And as like I like I'm always I'm going to
Starting point is 01:18:07 I'm going to be in a Paris there's a there's a lot of
Starting point is 01:18:14 a toilet that I wanted absolutely to have been created by a mark
Starting point is 01:18:20 that's called a comoe who's called Ocendre and I
Starting point is 01:18:23 realized that I had I had not I'm not so
Starting point is 01:18:28 so not necessarily to say, I'm not the money for it but to enter in the
Starting point is 01:18:39 perfumery and to say with a woman, that I know not, I'd like, I'd
Starting point is 01:18:46 like, I'm like, I'm sure, and I know that they're often they're called the demonstrator.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Yeah. And I had made, at the time, a concert at Paris in a
Starting point is 01:18:57 cell that was a little, and I had, I've said,
Starting point is 01:19:02 if one of demonstrators, you have one of more, I would have put all
Starting point is 01:19:09 my little chan, I've invited to my concert, she was she called Madame
Starting point is 01:19:12 Martin, I remember she was she was at the there there was there
Starting point is 01:19:16 was the market, and it I'm sure, I'm sure, but it takes a
Starting point is 01:19:22 good, I'm a moment, not quitted a a cado, but to tell much
Starting point is 01:19:26 want a a perfume, the perfume, it's impossible to be to be to be perfume.
Starting point is 01:19:34 But it's arrived at what of your life? I was 17 18
Starting point is 01:19:37 years. 17 and you see, you realize you realize because you're in
Starting point is 01:19:43 the the same of the house you know, my parents had,
Starting point is 01:19:47 we were we're were, we're getting goted, but you,
Starting point is 01:19:52 but when you realize what you know that's finally that to have to be
Starting point is 01:19:55 there you have to make in place some so it's and after
Starting point is 01:20:00 that to to tell all. This dame, I had started a little collection of miniature.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I've had an enormous collection and one of the most important in the world in the moment. I've got to
Starting point is 01:20:12 do some of the house private, in the salon private. That person, I know, I'll see, the first time
Starting point is 01:20:17 I'm talking, I'm in 1989, in 1989, I'm in those music, the pianist an
Starting point is 01:20:25 one will play at your play with all these chentions. All the grand family of Paris
Starting point is 01:20:29 had And all the, maybe 20, 30, 40 little bottle of shantillon, it was the norm to go to have to be in a
Starting point is 01:20:36 perfumery, we're offering these be these chantions that now, today we're doing it, and I've
Starting point is 01:20:41 made a minute with some, with some people, and they were super content, and for us had been to get a
Starting point is 01:20:48 same, I'd ask, I'm not, I'm, and it's for that I'm a collection, yeah,
Starting point is 01:20:55 quite rome, but part of your collection, it's, when you do a collection it's rare. For you
Starting point is 01:21:00 I'm, by example, I have two Ones the last old colony that Napoleon has brought on the
Starting point is 01:21:07 St. Ellen. I'm, I'm, the Quir of Russi, the Zarin who has
Starting point is 01:21:12 been killed. I get got to that's in these arms. I never to get it always
Starting point is 01:21:18 gradually gratuitly. Oh, you're all that actually in the house,
Starting point is 01:21:22 private. Okay, but even to today, I said, I've said, I've said, I've
Starting point is 01:21:25 said, I I've done, I've done, it's It was... Yeah, it's... Yeah, it was the era
Starting point is 01:21:31 It was the time It was the first thing, it was the first thing that was that had been a real thing, and if you came to a day, you
Starting point is 01:21:38 see it at the million of the bookings, that I've got to that I've that's got to that's... What's that
Starting point is 01:21:46 do you know, what? What's that does that have been that? For me, the perfume is not an
Starting point is 01:21:51 artifice. The perfume is not something of artificial. If you demand to a Muslim, is
Starting point is 01:21:59 that Mahomet Scented Moway? He will say no. If you ask a Christian,
Starting point is 01:22:04 is that the Christ Sante Move? He will say no. If you demand
Starting point is 01:22:08 a Jew, if you Mose, never they can't make the thing, but they
Starting point is 01:22:14 will all to say the same thing. The perfume is not something
Starting point is 01:22:17 of artificial on you to be to be, but it's an idea of the eternity.
Starting point is 01:22:25 You feel your toilet, You'd perfume a little. I'd say not to be to perfum it, to make a perfume that a perfume that will make a lot. But it's always the moment, I mean, I mean, the perfume the morning, it's, Jojo and me, we're together
Starting point is 01:22:40 for us together, she never, a matron, not me met monotolette. Never, never, she never, she never, ever, she never, have a far as far as, is, is, is, is, is that, is, is, you, it, you know, I, no, no, yeah, I, Yeah, I would say that, oh, I would have a moment there's a
Starting point is 01:22:57 one of the one of the yeah, but I'm going to be a knee? Also, I fugh, I've used,
Starting point is 01:23:03 I've had a good grand medet of cinema that's, because the perfume is with the
Starting point is 01:23:10 character, the power, the perfume, you go not in a magazine because you say, ah,
Starting point is 01:23:14 well, there Fissel Larrant that's a perfume, I'm bad a boutique, no,
Starting point is 01:23:17 no, the perfume, it's special. And there, and it's chymic a perfume also.
Starting point is 01:23:22 It's, A reaction chemical with the Po? Is it a good? It's very, it's very,
Starting point is 01:23:27 important. It's very important. I see, by example, I know, what is the perfume that's,
Starting point is 01:23:32 and who would be full, and who would make, what you're doing? What is? What's the is?
Starting point is 01:23:38 I'm going to to do you me say, it's the only condition in saying, Alin, you're not
Starting point is 01:23:43 fool. Okay. The Mace Marley, yeah, yeah, a perfume
Starting point is 01:23:49 extremely discret, there is an rose, fabulous, and I see your poe, your eyes, your character, and I make $1,000,000 that you will say,
Starting point is 01:23:59 I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get it, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, but I'm done that, so, so, it's the first that someone me, that's a first time, I love that, I, I'm gonna, yeah,
Starting point is 01:24:08 I'm gonna, yeah, because I, I, I'm, I'm, relatively, you know, I'd have, I'd be to say, I'm a good pianist, but the perfume, I'm never,
Starting point is 01:24:17 but, it's, but it, it, you're not, it, Like it's allume? Well, I mean, I, I see the eyes, I see the character. The perfume, it's not, first, the perfume, it's not a question of mark,
Starting point is 01:24:29 it's not a question of si, it's really, you talk with the person, you know, you know, you know, the character. Delina, for you, it would be extraordinary. But if they're, they're going to propose, there are three Delina, you'll say the original,
Starting point is 01:24:40 the first Delina. Because you know, you know, in plus. Tuss. Toss. I've taken the avion, I've passed two hours. I've read the magazine of UTIFRI
Starting point is 01:24:49 at a moatier, in saying, a moment, how you can make a point, you can't get a point of a
Starting point is 01:24:55 new perfect, I said, but I'm saying, yeah, it's even not, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:25:02 never I never I can't say, I know all the piano in the but you have no,
Starting point is 01:25:06 you have not no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know,
Starting point is 01:25:11 I know, I know, I know, that's, it's about it's, and so it's what the
Starting point is 01:25:14 main perfume that's that's that's puted, I would say, I'd say, that I
Starting point is 01:25:23 have a very, I'm very to make me concierge. So I am still in
Starting point is 01:25:30 the experience. And as I want really well, well, I'm very know,
Starting point is 01:25:35 and I'm more the man who will experimenter and I will be going to the other.
Starting point is 01:25:43 I, I, I, I, I've been this time, and it's
Starting point is 01:25:47 many times it's difficult, because the They're very important. You don't say to someone, oh, yeah, you port that.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Now, at this moment, we're talking of the social, the number of pseudo-coneceer who say, yeah, the game is very simple. You've got
Starting point is 01:26:03 a lot of people who do tell, tell, tell, perfume, and you receive these caests of the company. I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:26:10 Mr. Lefeb, you'd do you'd do you're doing, it's quite and it's true, I know, I've made some conferences
Starting point is 01:26:17 on the Parfine, I've made the conference at the University of Montreal, I've talked with the Figaro magazine, I've done it's a lot, I never wanted to do it, because I don't want to be
Starting point is 01:26:26 tributary at my own if I say, by example, there I'm saying to I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, and I'm sure, it's certain that the mark of perfume are too,
Starting point is 01:26:37 there's a lot of problems, there's what we call the perfume of niche and all that, there's some bathees that's also the flowers that have been very of many maladies,
Starting point is 01:26:45 So the odors are recreated to make sure when I'm talking to Delina. It's for that that it is a little more than the other is that's really
Starting point is 01:26:54 the odors natural. I've told you the word subtility and then it's already it's on you. Oh, well,
Starting point is 01:27:02 I'd portray of the delima. I mean, when I've used the perfume. Yeah, of Siskin, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:06 It's been, it's been, it's been, I've had, I never, I didn't, I had not I had not
Starting point is 01:27:13 the whole olfactive for create a perfume. Here, atraction, there's
Starting point is 01:27:21 Ruby Brown who is a knee also and I've participated to, we're creating like a
Starting point is 01:27:28 perfume, you know, and I didn't, see, to see, to see, to see,
Starting point is 01:27:32 that's who said, that's having exactly , but it's, but it made,
Starting point is 01:27:36 it's, it's why, it's why, it's why, it's why, it's why, it's why, it's why,
Starting point is 01:27:40 it's why, it's why, because it's fascinating, an universe. Listen, I'm modestim. Modestim, I don't know. I like, I've worked with Annie Guttallel. I've worked with the house of Gerland. Yes, I love so.
Starting point is 01:27:52 But, I'm not. But, you know, but you're not? Yeah, because I don't know. Because I don't know. You're with the house at Garland. At a moment, yeah, with a, with a woman who had to have been to have been with John Paul Gerland, and I had even
Starting point is 01:28:10 I made a concert in Montreal, I had made a piece of Skriabin and she had created a perfume for me to diffuses in the cell of concert of the Place of Arts
Starting point is 01:28:18 and it's an idea that I had used because there's a great mystic that says that each note corresponds to a color and
Starting point is 01:28:25 a other. That's at the time of Blavatski who was a great spiritual and Skriyabin he had made
Starting point is 01:28:33 a piece that's called Promete and he wanted that the not certain of an org, project a color on the cell
Starting point is 01:28:40 and that there is an odor. And I had said to my friend of Gerlin, why not create a perfume,
Starting point is 01:28:46 we're doing, but we're on this operation where finally the people have been there's a
Starting point is 01:28:54 allergy and that when the perfume had been diffused in the place of it's
Starting point is 01:28:58 it's too few diffus by fear of people who say, but it's to be
Starting point is 01:29:04 that the perfume, if I if I'm talking to if I'm like, because it's the finesse, it's not the perfume that
Starting point is 01:29:12 will be boom, in the face of the other, it's the perfume that will want to want to
Starting point is 01:29:18 be able to try to be to be able, to your eyes, it's that the sensuality. You know,
Starting point is 01:29:25 the more the more page erotic are the one of the education sentimental, when the
Starting point is 01:29:31 young pose the man and that he's The people have nothing to be the love and the
Starting point is 01:29:38 sensuality. The sociality it's a gesture, it's a word, it's a word, it's a word, it's an odor.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It's an odor. It's an odor. But it's fascinating. It's fascinating. I mean, the first of the table that,
Starting point is 01:29:50 that's a part of that, it's, it's all my life, I'm all. Parfacute of my life,
Starting point is 01:29:56 there, I'm there, you know, the house Caron, they have, the newon, uh, who is really,
Starting point is 01:30:01 really, really extraordinary, and I, I've, I've, I'm not a publicity for person, I'm I'm off, I'm completely independent, and he just
Starting point is 01:30:08 and he just a lot of toilet very classic, which was for a man of caron, which is a lavendar, he came to do it for an man of caron
Starting point is 01:30:16 the night. And this version, it's brilliant, I've read, oh, Mr. Lefebvre, yes, you know, you're a pianist,
Starting point is 01:30:24 I adore the piano, me also, and you know, I'd have been, and I'll have an cup of a bouttele gratued. I'd buy my boutte,
Starting point is 01:30:32 I'd never, I'm going to have you for that. But I know when someone does something to be and to be it to do it's not, you know, no. When something is good, we're going to have to be able to do it. So, you see, you've been to talk to sensuality, we're going to arrive in Eros.
Starting point is 01:30:50 So, you me don't, you know, you know, six, you're supposed to have six, four, there's five, oh no, it's five, you're five, you know, four, so you'd be. Four. Yeah, because before I'm doing six, that I'm four. One, two, Three and four.
Starting point is 01:31:05 So, you, you're going to answer? Is you comfortable in the sphere of the intimacy,
Starting point is 01:31:12 what do you to get to the intimacyity emotional in your life? Is that the sexuality is a subject
Starting point is 01:31:18 taboo in your family? What is your language of the love? Oh, well,
Starting point is 01:31:22 I think we can respond to all the questions in some questions in some
Starting point is 01:31:27 first, the sexuality not a taboo in my family. It's was a family
Starting point is 01:31:33 who were, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm at no, I'm at my time, I'm at a lot of course,
Starting point is 01:31:42 I'm not jeaned, and I'm not and it's, I'm going to, I'm going to I'm going to, I'll remember,
Starting point is 01:31:50 it's an mission even that's still and I'm and I, and I'm, I'm, sometimes, I'm
Starting point is 01:31:55 I'm in a year of time, but I'm don't want to be in pajamas or in bobbette,
Starting point is 01:31:59 so I'm, so I'm so, I was crying, no, but, Alan, the fenettes are there, all the world can't watch. I said, I'm all for, they're able to guard. And I'd mrs. And I'd have to be able to work.
Starting point is 01:32:09 So, no, that's for me, don't arrange not. You see, the affairs of ban, in Japan, where you're a gang of guys, you're trying a ban, that's, I'd be perhaps more sceptic. The Osam.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah, yeah. I'm perhaps not to make the bison, or other guys, make the bison, I'm going to... I'm going to... I'm going to... I'm going to...
Starting point is 01:32:28 There's a... also. No, I'm I've been in my chamber in my chamber, I've got to
Starting point is 01:32:33 understand, it's when I've opened the door and everyone is all new and I'm and then you
Starting point is 01:32:38 know, okay, so that's that's, you know, not, you know, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:32:44 I'm not, I'm not a taboo, I'm not but I'm my limit and, and the language
Starting point is 01:32:51 of the language of the love, the language of the other, it's, to be able to to be
Starting point is 01:32:57 to be the other, it's to be The most great difficulty of the couple is the longevity. It's the instant where, finally, it's install the habitues and the non-respect. I'd say that I have more respect for JoJo, I have some of people that I know not,
Starting point is 01:33:16 because the longevity of the love is the culture and the school of respect of the other. And that, for me, It's, it's maybe for that that today, well, I can't even I can't even to understand, that it's been 42 years that's with Jojo,
Starting point is 01:33:34 and that's been two months. Because, because, when you've seen, the first time, is that you saw? No,
Starting point is 01:33:46 she, she was, I know, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:33:49 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, I'm, I'm a lot, Theophil Gotti and he's often
Starting point is 01:33:56 to be Proust, and Proust, more Proust had O'Different and when I had been
Starting point is 01:34:02 at the concertator of Paris, there was a pianist who had an family noble
Starting point is 01:34:06 and I'm imagine that it was a there never never had never any of
Starting point is 01:34:12 any change of but I had part in this idea that just
Starting point is 01:34:15 the day that I'm I telephone to he he
Starting point is 01:34:19 and he my and it's my professor of piano who
Starting point is 01:34:23 he So he said, so that's a profferson of piano, who had 70 years, cached with the elev, who had an
Starting point is 01:34:28 19. And there, it's a very great great deception for me. A pain of love. It's been a
Starting point is 01:34:33 man, because I said, well, I've thought that a bit ordinary that the guy does that that's a, I think that,
Starting point is 01:34:41 I've worked with the children, I'm know, I'm sometimes, I'm think it's ordinary, and I've thought so ordinary
Starting point is 01:34:47 that she, for the reason probably of career, because it It was still more more easy. And I
Starting point is 01:34:54 would have found that very very deceivant. And I had met Jojo
Starting point is 01:34:58 the year and it's I'm defended at the time. But after having had been
Starting point is 01:35:07 to two Pierrot with her and with his friend because his friend was I'm
Starting point is 01:35:13 I'm back to my and I composed all the piece that I
Starting point is 01:35:20 composed was the first composition real that I had been for Jojo, the space of a new
Starting point is 01:35:24 encounter. Finally, I had been really a love that's that's a but I'm
Starting point is 01:35:30 scared. You know, you know, you know, you know, when we're, when we're, when we're,
Starting point is 01:35:35 when we're, some, sometimes, we can be, and it's me've been dissu, me,
Starting point is 01:35:43 all these stories, we know, I'm in a middle where I'm seen, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:47 who's, the people do the people do they want, with the raton-lover, with the I mean, I'd
Starting point is 01:35:52 judge it, I'd never person. But, I'm about a my, I'm good, I, I, I, and it's
Starting point is 01:35:57 that, it's so, it's met with, we're married, and we're a year, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:36:04 it's been, before the marriage. Before the marriage, yeah. And we've been, we're in we're in since, I'm
Starting point is 01:36:13 married at Salone Westmont in 1981, I think, or and to, and to, and to, and to,
Starting point is 01:36:18 you, it's, JoJo, you know, has a lot to be finally
Starting point is 01:36:25 the love evolved in a life it's, it becomes
Starting point is 01:36:32 a kind of a construction of cathedral that is a
Starting point is 01:36:36 that it's a part integrate of the thought is, is
Starting point is 01:36:42 can is can be not without the or
Starting point is 01:36:46 the or the the one, I know. I know I have some of the
Starting point is 01:36:50 I'm going to imagine that she's not there. I'm not there. It's for that I'm
Starting point is 01:36:57 trying to every day in every little little little perfume that I've used to to find that I'm going to
Starting point is 01:37:04 I'm at the cout, but we have always also a couple over on the other. You know,
Starting point is 01:37:11 the couple that's refirm on, you see, to go to restaurant, I'm going to get to
Starting point is 01:37:16 a You will eat, you want to eat a night. No, it's not that. It's not that's not that's a more profound. It's a much more difficult. The most part of the people can't batheer to couple because there are enormously difficulty. And the difficulties are not the frein at eternity, but it must be the fuel to the eternity. The difficulties reinforce the love, reinforce the couple. A couple
Starting point is 01:37:41 can't react to 10 years after to be the same manner that the first semester to say, it's fantastic, we're doing we're doing the Kama Sutra to complete
Starting point is 01:37:49 at their right to be. It's normal. There's always a evolution in a coup. But the thing that
Starting point is 01:37:55 exists, is this kind of construction that we do really, I'm doing on the Jojo is there.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Jojo is always so malade today when I go to when I'm in today. And Jojo
Starting point is 01:38:07 repus my joe my pain, my chagrin, my anguasses, like I repus the same.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Is there there is a real response to the love, I don't think not. Is there
Starting point is 01:38:20 a real a real school? I don't think not, because that's that's
Starting point is 01:38:28 very particular. But it exists. There are some people that are that's not that
Starting point is 01:38:34 is still it's modest. And you have a great communication in a time?
Starting point is 01:38:38 All the we, we, we, we, we, oh, yeah, yeah, so,
Starting point is 01:38:43 many, I feel, yeah, many chums, they snude with their bonnuffe. They're in the phone. So, I try to be delicate, I don't know to hear, I'm at each of us, we're in, the morning,
Starting point is 01:38:52 we're talking about, we're in the night, I know, I see, not, I don't, I'm saying, no, no, no, but it's apparent when we're going to a coffee,
Starting point is 01:39:01 after that, we'll probably a cigarette, we'll bring another coffee, no, no, no, and we're not, we're not sure, we're just, we're just,
Starting point is 01:39:07 but it's apparently, it's not, it's not, it's it's not, I'm not, I'm not, 42 years, it's two-four years,
Starting point is 01:39:14 because we're 24-on- 24-on-old. Yeah, because she'll she'll see in... Jojo and the directories, is the productress
Starting point is 01:39:21 of solo artist because I've been in the grand house of an agency, but now I prefer that
Starting point is 01:39:26 she's her who, who, who, that's a big story, it's a great story
Starting point is 01:39:31 of love. Listen, I, I think, but that I don't know that the people are,
Starting point is 01:39:37 it's not that exist. All right, all the what I see, it's possible. It's It doesn't say that there's not
Starting point is 01:39:42 difficulty, because I have a lot of people who live these moments penible. And I say before, before to
Starting point is 01:39:52 have been to have been and think it if there's a thing there's something that's the only thing
Starting point is 01:39:59 that's recoup not, it's the words of my parents. I thought that it was too radical.
Starting point is 01:40:06 All was repar. All so pardon. All so is pardon. We are
Starting point is 01:40:12 We are all human, we are we are all our moments of passion, there is nothing that is impartonable. So, I want to to return, to President American, it's what he makes more shied,
Starting point is 01:40:25 is that in their philosophy, all is condemnable. All what they do not believe is condemnable. Nothing is condemnable. Nothing is condemnable. A manor
Starting point is 01:40:37 an amour between who is be it's he's he's he's there's we're going to
Starting point is 01:40:43 we're we're not we're not we're not we're not same time that's two men
Starting point is 01:40:48 people who love to I've seen passionately I've seen their chien nothing me regard nothing
Starting point is 01:40:57 is judgeable we're we're always up the cause of those we're
Starting point is 01:41:03 saying listen you're all I'm sure I'm there I'm there I'm
Starting point is 01:41:07 there So, I have these couples who are once are a day with some pain, these great difficulties of and I'm always the same, now Jojo and me
Starting point is 01:41:18 we're not on the same line. Jojo, she said, no, pardon. A error, it's a error, it's a matter,
Starting point is 01:41:27 a copan who has really a moment penible. He wanted to, you're, you're, you're going to get a scotch, I'm going to,
Starting point is 01:41:38 It's not great. It's not it's not it's not it's not. I think to know the
Starting point is 01:41:42 pardoned. But you if you had not that you're not even in exactly. So you
Starting point is 01:41:48 know what you know what's the pardon? Well, yeah, and you see the
Starting point is 01:41:52 impact of the pardon in your life, if you have been in the
Starting point is 01:41:56 age of eight years, where I'm crache on me crucifier, that we pissed
Starting point is 01:42:00 to, that we'd be able to be back to be different, I'm
Starting point is 01:42:04 parted on the entity to me vanger. Exactly. I said, no, I
Starting point is 01:42:09 will be more. But that, it will not say that's not mean that you can, it's
Starting point is 01:42:15 legitimate in the fact of because you're past in the and you're past the impact of that. So,
Starting point is 01:42:20 after you can't you can share what it's on you, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:42:25 it's organic that's it's been it's, you know, it's situated in this dynamic
Starting point is 01:42:32 of the always, well, to want to to Venge, etc. When we know, I've got, when we know how many
Starting point is 01:42:38 New York, I've passed some called the places where the people are going to mourn before in the hospital.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I was doing the and you look and you say, no, it's not it's not worth the pain. It's for that
Starting point is 01:42:54 we've got the interview. The, the years not val not the pain. You don't amourue
Starting point is 01:42:59 of someone and try to you remember to you're trying to to be amourou, and you will retrove the field.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Well, after that, the rest of the life, the life, it's normal. The life, it's these, the whole, debas, any part of
Starting point is 01:43:11 any neasery can arrive. I know, I'm going to get to be going to happen to be able to be there.
Starting point is 01:43:17 But, you know, you know, why? Why? Ah, why, why, why,
Starting point is 01:43:21 he, it's a after you batty, you pass a other appeal, and it's all. It's good.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Optor-Resau, last question, Alin? Okay. Is that the What is the little Alain
Starting point is 01:43:35 would be that's the man that's I'm going to be pretentious I'm the right The T'all right The little
Starting point is 01:43:43 Alain, I think he would be Fierre The little Alin who he'd because
Starting point is 01:43:48 Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah I'm I think that the
Starting point is 01:43:55 Petit who in an Abribus and he was he was to be
Starting point is 01:44:01 to be to be back for after during 40 minutes he neger
Starting point is 01:44:07 and it was I was I'm piced on the I'm humiliated
Starting point is 01:44:13 I'm I'm sure I'm sure I'm that you're I'm doing to play to have the
Starting point is 01:44:24 modest success that I think the little that was I'm sure of that I'm sure of that
Starting point is 01:44:30 yeah is that would be by which should be the question oh yeah
Starting point is 01:44:35 yeah it's like I'm it and I'm it and I'm You know, if you were
Starting point is 01:44:39 if you said, you know, in the career, there's always a moment of a moment, a, a thing
Starting point is 01:44:44 that can't be able to tell, I'm not going to tell in my mind, my conscience, what is the thing is not
Starting point is 01:44:52 my work, none, my hope, I don't, maybe there's there's little angels who are going to be
Starting point is 01:44:58 there, I think that Sirbert has been an angel, I think Kito and Ginette have been the angel,
Starting point is 01:45:02 I think my jojo, is my angel, you know, you know, I'm just I've worked with
Starting point is 01:45:08 a lot of people, I don't say not because she's there's a other Ange,
Starting point is 01:45:13 I've been a other angel, I've been protected by different the rest, we're saying, the rest, we can't
Starting point is 01:45:22 I'm in the people, there's a dishealing, it's always deceivance, let's, it's a fevers,
Starting point is 01:45:30 in fact, it's, it's not a relation, it's a moment, you know, I, I, you know, he's,
Starting point is 01:45:36 he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, And the other day he was telephoned
Starting point is 01:45:41 when I said he said Alain I'm you know I'm sorry that's a man of 70
Starting point is 01:45:48 old he's that's when he's $18 to $19 million cash cash
Starting point is 01:45:55 he has he has that people have in his life and he
Starting point is 01:46:00 he's and he he's very he's very he's he's
Starting point is 01:46:03 he's totally alone he's he he has he has because
Starting point is 01:46:08 he has fear that we demand something. Well, surely when it's it's worth
Starting point is 01:46:12 so. So, I don't know, I think I'm, I think, most of me
Starting point is 01:46:19 to me say, I'm going to be in a place of smoke meat and that I'm going to move smoke meat
Starting point is 01:46:25 with some frit and a coke. I think that's the real bono. Courer
Starting point is 01:46:31 after to be more rich, more celibb, I don't, it can be extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:46:37 But it's some, it's these moments. You know, it's these are these moments, but it's not
Starting point is 01:46:42 the life. No, no. The life is not that and you know, that's a question that's interesting because,
Starting point is 01:46:49 yes, you're forced to do you, I think, if I'm if I'm revoire, if I see,
Starting point is 01:46:55 I've been you know, I've been told that when this restaurant, um, on the rue Lorye,
Starting point is 01:47:04 that's a bracerie. Oh, the Merck? So, I'm with Guy Lepage. Guy Lepage, it's he who had produced my first disc of composition. And we're sat sit, we're talking a little, and all of a sudden, there's a dame that comes. And she made her by the genus, and Gia, she's on rapped,
Starting point is 01:47:26 and she'll have pleaded, she, she's, I'm excuse, I'm excuse, I'm excuse, I'm excuse, I'm excuse, I'm sorry, so. I said, I'm sorry. And she said, she said, I'm sorry, she'd be there. she had in the same school I've seen
Starting point is 01:47:39 I've seen and I've had been and I've seen and I've seen that it had
Starting point is 01:47:47 sounded because it's certain that you can't that you know when someone came to show
Starting point is 01:47:52 that I see that he had been in the arm and yeah that it was
Starting point is 01:47:58 it was difficult because there was not be not beau it was noire I'm
Starting point is 01:48:02 I'm called to grosomodo so that your question is I'm sure that I'm sure, I think
Starting point is 01:48:07 that's I'm saying boy, how you're doing, but I'm very much like you're using he's said
Starting point is 01:48:14 yeah, I think he should be very important of the fearty we're of the misery sometimes
Starting point is 01:48:20 to the but how much important to that really important to that yeah
Starting point is 01:48:24 that's a thing that's that's a thing that that's change that that's change in the
Starting point is 01:48:29 way, to be to be to be yeah apparently the My sagesse, it's
Starting point is 01:48:34 that. That's not not quite, but I'm going to I'm doing it. I want to see, you know, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:48:41 but you know, it's a part of it, you know, I'm not too thought, you know, I'm not too thought, you know, the little who,
Starting point is 01:48:48 who, you know, who does, but how we're going to be able to we? Yeah, it's true. It's been that,
Starting point is 01:48:54 because in your car, you're not in trying to think to think to see, no, I'm in your way, you're
Starting point is 01:49:00 in your mode, you're in your mode of to get to be in the Abribus? No. How I'm going to return to the school? How, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:05 how I've been face? And it's a bizarre that you say that's a because you're talking a little, it's sure that I'm
Starting point is 01:49:11 a little a glimpse, when I've made the Rhapsody Romantic of Matthew with Janick, Nesesiegeen, at the mountain
Starting point is 01:49:19 and there was 602,000 people, it's sure that has a reason, it's not what you do, that's true, that's,
Starting point is 01:49:25 it's true, that in all the, when I'm to go to stay on the time because you want to you're going to move. When you're a ton of people,
Starting point is 01:49:34 yeah, there's a lot of money, yes, there's a there's always to say, what is I'm not, I think, but I think that's always a little present. Yeah, it's just.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Yeah, what's he said? Yeah. How's that I'm that? I don't know. I've worked. But there's
Starting point is 01:49:52 a great party that you're there's a great part of your angels, you they recognize to your angels.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Yeah. And it's not all the people who recognize these angels. There are there are
Starting point is 01:50:00 people who are there to see a very of and to be able to be a
Starting point is 01:50:07 to be at the entire to be in your own you know, you know, you know and you
Starting point is 01:50:13 know and you're able to and you know, and there a lot of humiliation
Starting point is 01:50:18 also to recognize and I think that it has been a great quality of presence
Starting point is 01:50:22 also to recognize I'm what you say what's what's you're
Starting point is 01:50:27 interviewed, many artists, you have an impression when you're talking, they're
Starting point is 01:50:32 they're always them, I'm not to say that, I'm the result of all, for that
Starting point is 01:50:36 I'm said at the time, the Quebec, I'm at all the time, and you know,
Starting point is 01:50:41 in all what we would call the system of immigration, which is a system
Starting point is 01:50:45 that is very, very useful and very positive for a society, but it is able to
Starting point is 01:50:51 be able to remercate the accue, I'm had been in Quebec. It's not It was easy.
Starting point is 01:50:58 And I've been acuey, I've received. So, it's a redone. And that, you have
Starting point is 01:51:05 able to be able. It's just what you do you do, to say, well, I'm, I'm the result of
Starting point is 01:51:09 and it's not me, more, I'm not, I'm not, I'm able, for example. But you're
Starting point is 01:51:14 no, more, but to say, to recognize that you have been there's a lot,
Starting point is 01:51:20 yeah, that I'm that I'm, that I'm, they're in, that, they're, they're,
Starting point is 01:51:23 they're, they're, that, that or the more that you put, that you're dead or not, you put your
Starting point is 01:51:28 to your and you're in the same. The angels never. I live with the more that's my own.
Starting point is 01:51:37 I know that's I'm going to I'm in the men, I'm in they're in they're sure and certain
Starting point is 01:51:43 that there's there's things to you know that's he's 601 or 72 when I when I've
Starting point is 01:51:49 been 63 I'm saying you know, you know, you know, you know, we're trying, I try to not me
Starting point is 01:51:56 to tardy. You see, you know, think to the past not, I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 01:52:04 to present. To be for me, for me, today, it's an moment important. And I don't
Starting point is 01:52:12 because you're there is important. It's some some of these moments that me make me and make
Starting point is 01:52:18 me better. And if you can not appreciate the thing and that's in what you would or what you
Starting point is 01:52:25 wouldre? It's a matter Roosevelt, she said, you know, yesterday, it's, it's a story,
Starting point is 01:52:32 tomorrow, it's a mystery, today, it's a gift, that's for that we
Starting point is 01:52:36 call that, the present. That's what you say, that's the phrase, the most important,
Starting point is 01:52:42 to my view, that's the phrase the first important, but that, it's,
Starting point is 01:52:46 many people think, for that's for that I talk in the story of a couple, you've
Starting point is 01:52:51 never think of past. No. In fact, the present we can't understand. Also.
Starting point is 01:52:56 You know, you know, you're not not going to go back to your course, your present and the accumulation of
Starting point is 01:53:01 your past. Yeah. And then, you're in trying to create the future, but you know because you,
Starting point is 01:53:08 is, is that presentment, you're in a great period of your life? Ah, that's,
Starting point is 01:53:14 it's to that is to that I'm for I would be more of the truth, I'm
Starting point is 01:53:20 I'm a bit discouraged of these humans. sincerely I'm I'm in a good
Starting point is 01:53:24 period but I'm it's for that's for that consolation has been written a new disc
Starting point is 01:53:31 and I think it's going to the same and it will what the title? I've thought
Starting point is 01:53:38 I was too too decouraged to the human I had to have to be
Starting point is 01:53:42 the name to be so clobed in the end. So, no,
Starting point is 01:53:51 I I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little discouraged, the human. When you do with, when the people so, it's a declares, when the people, it's a reconciled? Is it, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:00 do you know, to do you know, that's a bit of, my brain, my brain, my brain, I'm, I'm, what we're
Starting point is 01:54:09 called an hyperactive of the, of the boat-a-poo. But it's sure, today, I, I know if I'm the sole,
Starting point is 01:54:18 or I'm, or if I'm exager, but it's sure I'm a little more discouraged than I do. There are these situations at right to goche that I'm perturbed
Starting point is 01:54:30 because I don't really to be really to understand the utilised the massacre, the utility of the war,
Starting point is 01:54:40 of the torture, I don't to understand. But why I don't know to understand? Because, I'm at a
Starting point is 01:54:48 little little scale, I've been victim of the brutality. And when we think to the war that when we're going to be any of any nuance in
Starting point is 01:55:02 in what it's I mean, it's just that are just that you're able to you're capable to think to each one of the person who's subis the war. And it's not just a
Starting point is 01:55:13 title. It's not just the name of a country that is in war, it's some individuals who are The war. It's the great
Starting point is 01:55:21 thing. It's for that my composition and my editor me said, you know, it's so
Starting point is 01:55:28 it's so much your idea, consolation, it's so much I'll say consolation, I don't say, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:55:34 if I'm not to say, I think there's a few thousand people per every week. Yeah, and I'm
Starting point is 01:55:39 quite to generally, just a question, to go, just a lot, I'm, just a lot,
Starting point is 01:55:42 I'm, well, I'm, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm happy, you know, I'm happy,
Starting point is 01:55:47 you know, I'm happy, just a idea, it's that you're saying Delida and you're yeah,
Starting point is 01:55:51 but I'm also, I'm going to I'm going to be a good, I'm going to be a little bit because I'm
Starting point is 01:55:58 an anguasser but it but it's capote I'm downing yeah, I can't, I can't,
Starting point is 01:56:05 I can't I can't understand, I can't but continue to compose, continue to continue to
Starting point is 01:56:11 it, it it's a piece, and just in these period there I think your
Starting point is 01:56:15 music, that has always been, that's always been present for the years, but I'm
Starting point is 01:56:21 like the impression that she'll give a sense and she brings a sense in our
Starting point is 01:56:26 in our life. It's perhaps, it's perhaps the grand revolution of
Starting point is 01:56:31 my life in this moment. It's Alan Lefeb the interprete
Starting point is 01:56:35 of the great composers and Alan Lefeb the composer who
Starting point is 01:56:42 does do good to the humanity. That's perhaps something is very
Starting point is 01:56:46 troubling. When I I've done a concert and that I'm too much of success that I have a bitch and that I do people, want you to be a piece of Ravelle, of Debussy, or want you to hear one of my little compositions?
Starting point is 01:57:00 The people, they're, your compositions, your compositions! And there, I'm in trying to me pose, and there I, and there I, I'm a company of disc. The people want to listen my compositions. I have these musicians, classic, who me, who me say,
Starting point is 01:57:15 That, I, I, I, I, I'll rebutt, I'll I'm a lot, because that's, it's, it's a, it's a problem, Bucco. That's, it's an element of grand trouble. Bocco. Aver pastes
Starting point is 01:57:28 many years on, well, and then a sudden, realize that your public is fool of what you're the same you compose. That's bizarre for me.
Starting point is 01:57:40 And it's to be a, it will be able to be to be able to be. Thank, Alain Lefev. Thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 01:57:47 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a good. It's been to be able to talk to someone. I don't know that I'm the capacity to know who is intelligent or who is not intelligent, but your
Starting point is 01:57:56 heart, your name, I've always so it's a gift for me. Thank you to be able to be there's a lot of reactions here.
Starting point is 01:58:06 I'd say that those and they regard or who can't, we can do, to vote, there's a good of good-reveillance,
Starting point is 01:58:14 there's a lot of apprentices the people grandists in listening and they're doing this
Starting point is 01:58:19 and they're and it's pre on serious it's not it's, that's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:58:24 that's, but it's, but it's, but it's, it's, and the people have no the heart
Starting point is 01:58:29 and the people, the arrivists don't know no, in the here, there's a
Starting point is 01:58:35 time, there, there's a thank you, I'mbrace, thank you thank you, thank you,
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