Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #162 - Liliane Blanco-Binette | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Quel épisode que celui de Liliane Blanco-Binette. J’y repense souvent, même plusieurs jours après le tournage. J’ai connu Liliane à travers Big Brother Célébrités. Une excellente joueuse, qui m’a toujours fait rire chaque fois qu’on la voyait au confessionnal. J’en savais très peu sur sa vie.Dès la première question à laquelle elle a choisi de répondre, j’étais absorbée par ses propos. Elle aborde, entre autres, le divorce de ses parents, l’attachement à son frère jumeau, la relation toxique qu’elle a vécue, la quête de l’estime de soi ainsi que l’importance de la scène.Je la remercie pour sa confiance et je sais que ces confidences aideront plusieurs personnes qui traversent des épreuves semblables à celles qu’elle a vécues.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:20:04 Cartes vertes00:52:06 Cartes jaunes01:12:05 Cartes rouges01:28:42 Cartes Éros01:46:29 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.Découvrez la nouvelle collection MarieClub : Espace mieux-être et Ouvre ton jeu de notre boutique en ligne. Une sélection inspirante pensée pour vous accompagner dans votre quotidien.✨ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boutique.marie-claude.com/⁠

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Hello, you go ahead, today? Hey, yeah, today, I'm prepared, we're on leave these cuss, we'll ask

to discover, but I'm trying, but I'm really, at Big Brough, and you're there been there long time, and the two two times,

I've been there long time. The two two it's been to end up in final. Well, yeah, the first we, so, we're going to have used to live during the second time. You know, because

that's, you know, you're lucky when you play a few times. To play two times, it's a little unique, especially in a little bit of a few million, So, I mean, when I had some of the

old, I was like, oh my God, I'm sorry to live a second time for that second time you're doing,

because you know to see to what to attend. Yeah. I think that's the most difficult to do you, is that you

know, you know, just not how you know, and we're to say, like, it's a

contract, and at every day you work, in a whole, I have this mindset, rest,

that you become like a family, and your system of support, so organize with the

personality that you're at Big Bro, and it's not always people who are people with who are in the real life, you're not really a connection, but now the the game apportes that, but the limits of the game are perfect for this relation

because if we go ahead than that, it's aghostered. I'd say, how I've been trying to with Big Bro? It's on being vulnerable, in accepting who I'm, and

in guarding to nothing at the interior, I think. You know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm not faked, like, who I was,

I'm not out of Big Bro, and like I'm going to like, I'm going to finally I'm after I'm

not sure, I'm really to be able to be able to live and to, yeah, to not petted to fret,

you know, because there's a lot of that's like that that's not that's not that's not, you're not

to be in you know, you're not there's not really to have been to the that's in the, you know,

you're in the , in what's it's in what's, it's called the chants of the patron but you're talking not long time

and really not the production makes that you're in in a call you're in a car and you're in a minute he'd say you're talking they're saying

they're going to they'll turn to they're okay you see right you're and then they're and they're and they're

and they're the subject because it could the subject of conversation could be so under that could be

something we're so we're really done you like in the in the incoenu. You know what

it's going to it's going to do you know, like when you're like when you're like you start to get you start,

I'm trying to you're doing, you know, that's more tough to decrochet when you're to get to get to because you're just

in a state in a lot of when you're and you're and you're hard to and it's and it's

there's already there's like there's like it has been six months, there's been it's been it's a few times

it's cop, you understand, he replaced someone who could be in the

whatever, so there's there's a people who are and they're going to be to be the three, four,

five, six months, you understand? So, I'd say, that's very difficult to to get back.

What's is difficult in on debarker? Ben, your day, be big bro,

you know, like, check your micro, that, like, check my micro,

he's been being made, and so when I saw, I've done so, look at the

corners the camera are in the camera are in the corner of I'm in know I'm gonna I'm gonna say

I'm gonna see I'm in cam you know that's changing my battery you know there really

something of a big bro but a routine at a another level it's like all the times are

like all there are there are there's which makes that not that's not but

but it is like it's from Monday to Monday there we're ceremony tell, ceremony,

tell, jeal, this year, this, blah, blah, blah, eviction. But,

all the matins, in this routine, a bit like a puppy russ, like a routine, routine, routine, routine, routine,

routine, routine, routine, and you have that time, so, every night, you're in, every night,

you're saying, the path, to change my battery, cross the same moment at each hour, because they

also, they're all the time at this hour that, it's all the time after the time after the same time,

down, she does, she'll She's all the time five minutes before you. You know, like,

it's routine times million, like you go not at the epitcery, you're not your

never. I'm, I'm sorry to my first session of Big Brough one way because

that in my first season my and Coco me, no, me and Mo and I,

we were to be in the night, and she she, and she was pushed.

And I glissed and I was conned at the teke against the pergo that.

And then we had not a glass in case of of the blesture but it's not it's not a fault the prod

it's just it's just it's just, it's just, the prod for that they have really that's really

we're really we see not we're not, we're not there's not there's there's like hey,

yeah, yeah, I'm gonna you're gonna get to get some we're okay,

they're gonna be able yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

and when we're when we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, We look at the fenytheid the same. They're going

for that we continue to we're doing we're doing. We're not we're in the murions. We're in the

people, I did you know and I'd do you're doing and they're close to the door where the tech

going to bring the batteries. And then they're going to get to get I'm worried to be yeah,

yeah. So this time that you have you had to be out of because yeah,

exactly I'm I'm sorry because we didn't if I was a commotion. And I'm I'm sure, I'm with

the productress, Natalie Brigitte Bustos, who is a woman fantastic, and they're really in our and they're like Lillian, we don't

have not the choice, we're going to go to get a to an emergency, sassore at an night, and I was I was masked and I had made my capuch

because if there's there to be an urgency that's got to what's the what she did you Lillianne, you understand? Finally,

I had fuck, Carl, I had nothing, she had shekeke with my

eye with a flashlight two seconds, she had got to get to be to do you but I'm

going to the time, and I'm sure when we came to embarked in a char,

and when it's parked for the urgence, I'm sure, I'm starting to me saying,

I'd could be to be to go to work, I'm could be sove

you're like, you're like, I'm not the security, I want to turn in the game, you know, but I'm out. I'm out. I'm, I'm

not making, there's nothing. I'm like, I'm going to start going to go ahead. It's just going to be in a other state completely. Hey, totally. And I'm sorry, when we're revenu, I'm going to get into the studio, I remit my micro, and I'm going to be couch, I'm going to

be in my prison. But, you know, it's not a prison, in the sense, we're content to be there, we're going to be there, it's a game. But it's so much to start to understand, to understand and to

willingly re-revenue. You're like something like in getting in returning, not in returning,

in so. And then after it was, all the whole people wanted to know, like,

where you have been past, we were on the road, ah, my God,

it's like on on, we're like, I'm, I'm just being to be

impressioned because I was when you when it started, I'm like, wow,

I can I can't be able to because at Big Pro the mure are the limit of what you But you're

like you're like you're like that's you're doing with Coco Oh yeah with Coco Oh yeah with Coco

All right Every time that I know, Is it like You know? Is it you know you know we're not

We know we're not we know we're not we're not so we're not so that we're not a few

on the pacing in the same It's that that's that it's been quite but I've really a friend

of a fantastic. We're really like two puzzle that's a great erasage of Big Bro Oh,

no, fantastic Big Bro. Very difficult but fantastic. Is that you ready to open your Yeah!

And you and you're and you're not to never, I know, I know, I know,

that's right, but it's correct. But I'm a door to get barred the door, huh? The door and the cameras

are there, there's just three and they're not there, there's no, so they're it's some of order more generic, the

level of gender more specific. Nive rose, it's some of some people who maybe, maybe, maybe maybe

something that's something that's maybe maybe even more that's a sexual and or sensual. Sexual, cocheon. You're depending

where you want to go to go. I'm ready to I'm trying to what you want. Opto reso, is the

last question of this show, it's the end of this encounter that. Often when when you respond

to this question that what I remark, is that it does a sense to all of what you said, that's a bit more

because we're a pretty more of your own. The Joker, if you know what's you know what's you're more than you're going to ask you have a other question.

I just a jokeer? You're just a joke? So, it's your protection. So, you know, so you can't brush it directly on the table, the card of

you, you're I don't know five. I'm not, I'm not, no, I'll, I'll get to leave, you, you'll choose

a, to which you will answer, and after I'll choose one to which you're going to give to

I'm I'm a so you're a mystery yom and yom yom and I'm I'm done

five yeah exactly one one, two, three, three, four,

thank you so much so I'm sorry the questions so, what importance you accord you to the

regard of the other when I just I'm just tension when I when I

when I when I know how you you're you to you to the authority

What is your passion? And what is your your and your one? I've got to choose one!

Yeah, I'm prepared for all. Well, no, you're trying to and then after that. I'm on to choose one. Yeah,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's your , you know,

to choose. You have you have you been to make decisions? Ah, yeah, okay, so I'm trying

to try to that, so, for me, but my Psy will be maybe will be able to

listen before to learn about to learn about it what's the more complex to make a

more of the question that's sure it's interesting but I'm to be a question to be a

reality it's very short I'm the authority I'm I'm the I'm

when I look I'm what? I'm what? What's you

see when you see when you look in the mirror it's so it's so it's

too too But I'm trying to try. It's the first time I'm trying to say It's a first I don't know I'm

I'm I'm I'm, I'm, I'm probably I'm probably per die of the credibility

in saying that I'm and I'm able to say the real word that's what I'm of the

dis-morphy yeah, it's to say that's not what you're yeah. Okay. I'm

I'm okay. I'm I'm different in a different that every year, I know if I'm I have a lot of

problems of esteem. But there's something that's like my own life in the little Lillian

like the Lillianne very joyous the girl she wants and I tell you that it's

really it's really it's really in therapy for me it's very in my introspection

it's not and when I'm it comes not to necessarily intuitive I'm

I'm trying to find the pretty Puppet that is Dure, the

Cells, because the Pupé Ruse are, you know, when you know, we're talking the whole

The noil of olive, that's exactly. Exactly. You have need to reconnected to your little

Puppet. Yeah, really because I'm really, I'm in this Lillian that insouciante

very very leger. I'm just a Lillian like that that has not

the that's that's no chine, that not a bullet on the foot. I'm, I'm considering kind of

like, I'm still in life, but I'm also kind of some of the friends who have been

in a sense not it's not all the time, it's not all the thing, is that? Is it

when it has changed? Yeah. Yeah, I think there are four grand

events of my life, of what I think, actually, there's the separation of my parents.

That was all the I was in a moment of year. You were eight, nine years. Okay, you're atopause. Yeah, five-year-old. And it's, and it's a separation

at a plain level because, I have a friend-jum, and my friend jimot, and my friend, is extremely important for me. And I'm saying,

a little frereur, too, you know, I'm a grand-shaar. But you're not in the same time, but the relationship, you're lead. It's you.

Oh, my God. Isaac, like that I'm not saying, he's going to hear that I'm going to say it. Anyways, Zach, like that you know, he's been a contravention of Jaywalking. You know, when you traverse,

you have not the choice. Yeah, I've been not an money for, I was going to take care of it. I've paid his contravention. It's like, he has like, a little, I don't know,

this sentiment maternal with Zach, he apprecies not necessarily, I'd say that's more far than more. We'd say that I'd say, I want to take to take

your because when my parents because when my parents were in separation

at different different different that's a that's that's a second year he had doubled his

time at our time we're doing all the time in the time for for the jimaud

to always have the other you understand it's literally a

a presence inconditional you know it's it's like an extension

to you At 100%, and even that's it's proved the children are when they're

separated at the nascence made in the lit different directly at the

the stress that makes on the stress that they're very enormous because they are

very to be all the time even in the bed end to share

to partage to share the intimacy yeah but but certainly to

receive the contact also the mom she's the

little the little the But the babies, ensemble also, they're sent, and that all right

during the grossess, it's a link that's a feeling that's a fetus and by the baby,

so it's very powerful, the relations jimaux, jimels, and the fact that my parents separate,

that my friend had dops at 5th, and that I'm in 6th and that year after, I'd face the

second-air, and Zahk is that again in 6th year, it's really create this focce that,

like it's like it's like it's like it's like a it's like the separation of my parents it's made

two separations in the same yeah, but yeah definitely. After I'm sure we can creus it

and then to find out of all sorts but it's because you were separated to your from the

schooler yeah yeah it had never it had never it before

before yeah yeah and I'm sure had the need of the secondaire one. We'd

be able to we'd be in at the same hour, you know, we'd be all the time and then then a lot of

my time, he had an other friends, and then you, I imagine that with a separation like that,

you'd have had been more, you'd have been to say, at 100%. You know, to say,

it's your stability emotional also. Yeah, but no, so that it's has been that's a

grand frere than four- -year-old than more than we, and Gabb

at this time, you know, he was full-on adolescent in fume of pot,

like, Gab, he was like, he was, like, he had the age to bring

his on a and to get, you know, so it's like,

it's like, it's a little, yeah, it's fragmentant in the time.

I'm of this thing, of this thing, of this thing, insouciate,

that, he has not to question her friend, he's not with his parents, they're going to get to be

to get to get to be all, you know, I'm in this little this little that's

after, other other thing, you know, when I named the four moments, there's separation

of my parents, there, I, I, I, I've been, I've been

in a relationship, you've been put to you, you know, yeah,

yeah, I've been in a relationship and that, that it It's it's really

changed and I think I think that I have to I'm going to I'm going to have changed Is it has been

your capacity of your yeah that's what it's so that it's often but yeah it's a

it's a thing what I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm something it's a

six and a seven seven and a and this person that was very important for me

because at at the first, it was my best my friend, you know, we've been before to get a more

and that's all the time very particular, because there's all the there's a bit moments, and even at the moment where I

talk, and I said that there's been there's been there's been that you know, I've got, I've got,

I've got to know, that's true, because you should be not rest there. You know, to say,

for rest in a relation toxic, abusive, it, time, but before it's you know

you've got to know what, you know, if we're if we're so, we're so, it's because

you're to get to get to be in, and you think that's, you think it's that's when it

comes, so, when it comes, you'd give a reason to be able to be rest of

that be able that, there's a there had been, there had been, there, there, um,

there had uh, it's not with this person there, but there had been an aggression

sexual after, oh, And that's, it has more changed the person that I'm saying. You've got to be the first of the last? Well, yeah. When you've wanted, perhaps, re-near-in-relation?

Um, well, it's, it's been a time to me to remember what's what it was, like, because my core has really, like, I, you know, a shock. But, yeah. But, a time that I realized what it's been, I think, there, I've reached to make, in, in-lumire, the of the

that's the that's the desire to say the desire. You know would be plough no. So,

you'd make something on the door, yeah. You said that you had seduied? You wanted

could be in this posture? I'd I'd not put in a being, viewed

like, attirate I'm, I'm, it's so I'm, what I'm saying,

but I'm, I want that's not that's my person chosen, I'm that it doesn't

that don't that don't that don't on person I'm not that's a other

I'm not that I'm not you're not in a yeah, but at the point that I'm not

that's a point, I'm not no, no, no, no. So, I've found that's true because the

beauty has never been something of a real thing until I, I'd say

not central to all recently that, it's not that, I'm I'm

reappropried me reappropried a sort of of femininity there in the you know,

accept that my shoes be able, to be able, me make new to make a red at the left, you know,

I'm in front, I'm trying to get a little, never, never, never, never, never,

that you're that's, you know, before the aggression? But, before the aggression, I was young, you know,

like, young, I was, I'm, very, very, very, very,

very, very, so, it's, at your family, at 100, at 100,

at 100, I, you'd be I was like, I was like, I wanted to, I just, I didn't even not even not. Yeah, you'd be, you'd be in a st. When you'd be puttie, hey, you'd be in, you're in, you're in, you're, you're, you're, in hoody, you tear that, you tear that, for not that they're sain parishes.

You, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're in crisis, a, you know, a crisis, a, serious, a, is. Is that you're talking about, yeah? Uh, yeah, but, you're, long time after. long time after and I I wanted like that

it was like I don't I don't know I don't be able to be able to I think it's inconsistent because

today to say I'm not to say I'm we're like it's what I'm like I'm at be a victim but yeah

it's like I'm like I can't be a victim but I'm like I'm like I'm like you

understand yeah and you'd putt a bit a bit of responsibility or I think

at 100% it was a so there so there it was not clear, yeah, it's like what

your position it's like it's like you like you're like that's but after when I think I think it's

like there there's not there's not there there's not it's clear but it's still there

still important and even in the relationship sometimes that comes to make to feel

to dootate to your and that it's still that's again I'm already

I've decided like okay how I'm how I feel and, no, how I feel like that's

correct, and I'm going to be just a feel like, but that's it's a work,

you know, to do you say, it's a day, it's not always the same Lillianne.

What's that? I don't know, what's that's what is that? Today, by example,

is, is what you have seen, what Lillian you've seen today? Today, it's a

good Today, it's a good journey. Um, well, I've seen a minute she'd be be belle. So,

after she's, you're doing, I'm saying, I'm, but what's the time, I'm going to, you know, there's been,

there's probably, there's probably, but for me, I'm like, arranged, like, it's like the ,

you're doing, to be the right, it's like, to be the right, it's, it's, but it's, to be able to be,

, Yeah. It's to be to the front. Yeah. It's accepting that

to exist also, you know, it's... But what's fucking paradoxal also with, and contradicto with what I'm

with what I'm saying, and I'm and I'm and I'm, and look at me, and you're in

an zone because you're in a zone? Yeah. It's appartian. Yeah. There's

person who can arrive there. There's not there can't there there's not, there's not, because

I'm a army of fan in front in I'm a really a beautiful community the world

yeah, I'm really really proud to be able to get to see a world. Is that you

think that's the place that's the place on your life on the scene? Hmm,

it's totally a good question. I think that's also the place where I'm

also the place where I'm the I'm exercise my passion, my

my life so it's so it's so it's It's to show the work abutty,

but it's also to be like, is that you like, you know, like, you know, like you're

going to be to be able to see, yeah, so the world is super bad, so that the world is

cramping and, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm the kind of, the zone of you know,

but you're on the scene, you're seeing how much? Super, well, at my place, not stressed.

So, to be in a zone of a vulnerability, you're kind of ,

well. What you what you make in a in a state in a state per year, it's when you

feel in danger. Yeah. So, so you're not in danger? No. You just don't know

because I'm in control. You can't. Yeah. You control your scene, you control but I think

that the scene is very very salutary for people who are so, it's clear.

Well, it's like an place that it's like an end and the people

that's to be to be In the font, it has helped the scene? Oh my God,

at 100% at 100% at 100% Tore ador and the things that I'm over with you know,

it's some things that's there's like a moment pivow in the show where I have been in

a lot of and there's not all the people who are all the I think I'm that I'm really what I'm

doing the and who that's that they're listening to be there's there's

that they're that they're not that's for us that's a shock. Um, I think that

I think that Torre Ador has been really a renaissance for me an accouchement accouche the show but the show

it's like I'm auto-acoochoo it's like I'm yeah I've pushed this show but it's

I'm who it's not when you read the critic it does do you know when it's when it's

when it's when it's because I didn't look of negative it's not that I'd try it to

try to but all what I'm going to be okay but I'm going to go to see a

work at least I'm in trying to make a thing well, it's just it's it's very

it's great it's super important for me that a first thing was also personal and it's

not because I'm because I'm just that I'm just that I know where I know how I

I'm very learned in the processus the rigor the rigor the time all the whole

in orbit around me I was not also acidude in the I had a way I was an very instinctive to work that was a

disciplinate the discipline the discipline had arrived in the same time because it's related to a TDA

far, I think that I've really have learned new ways to that have made beneficier the show

for sure but I'm very flatted that you say that's you're always to go to go

yeah your you're extremely feminine yeah abbey in in rouge you're magnificent

on this affix so it's also when you say it's very personal but in a moment it's a 100% but you know

I'm at I'm at least what I'm what I'm what I'm do you want to something like something you know

and I'm seeing me I'm trying to I'm not I'm listening I'm just a paper of aluminum that's the

yeah yeah yeah I'm yeah yeah I'm I'm sorry I'm conspied in the

but he he's natural Yeah, natural. Yeah, natural. Yeah, but very de-complexed. And I think

for Torreador, the fact of an a rappel visual, I'm able to go to this zone

that, all about all being and being fierce, for me, it's, it's a

mind-sette that, you know, so, so, so, that's a reappropriation.

Yeah, really. But, you know, I think, the people are not always

the, you know, the, you know, the Easter egg in a bit in the show. I'm really a fee

of symbolism and it's for that the show called the show I'm not I'm in the reason

especially that's Toriador is coming in epiphany because I thought that interesting

man, the comparison between a show of a show of a show of Torero in a

arena who are my grand mother espion I'm like man

in the two case, you're an interpreter or a tourero.

In the two cases, they're in front a full in a card of

a spectacle where it's magnified and that that that put to

the people are surprised where the people applaud and the people

get in he's in the way he's he's in the

in the time of gyr something, in the first degree, it's a to a tourou.

But the stand-up for me it was it was to be able my to my

my affairs, the people get in danger. Yes, the people don't know always

of the repercussions that I have to talk to that after so after the

world could be maybe say, yeah, but it's a choice extremely

extremely consient same, but so that time that you have not done it, you can't

know, it's so that's the that's it's a so, you to be to be my

pro re-ro and to don't know my proper touros and it's you're the bad,

the bat, is you're my ex, you know, you really, I'm not, you just, I'll just,

I'll let's, you know, and even on the I'm, there's, I'm just, like,

I'm, so sure that I'm, it's, it's, it's the tallon old, it's, It's these

little, it's like some of the little sabo. For me, it's a clino for me, I'm a clind of

I'm sorry, but I'm also the bait of the fact and it's interesting. The two do have cohabited. So you've

thought so, there's a question, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

and why, and why, and the show is really a, I don't really a clue to public to understand

why I'm in the auto derision, why I'm too, I'm often in the deletion.

I like that. I'm all the but I'm very profound. But you're really very profound.

I'm in the same. We're going to do you in the same what's the importance accord you

the other? Because your your regard on you're so you're so you're so you're now to

those others? Well, I accord a lot of importance to the regard of other.

I'm not necessarily of sure to be, I'm not necessarily of that. I'm necessarily to be more

more than crissed more. I have really to have been At the moment it's derange to

regard of the other I'm going to to say at a whole of to say

it's that you think you think it's yeah yeah it's a

comment is it is it is it there's there not a commenter

but you imagine the yeah, the PTSD the shock post-traumat create that to ruminate

and to be a a little yeah not exaggerate, but, you, , to get, to get into

the same, she's like, she, the people who had to be, a minute, I'm in a minute,

you've got to get to get to , like, I'm not, you know, that's, like, I'm not really a good person,

and it's like, found tired. That's, it's the symptoms of OCD? You know, the OCD? No,

it's, I don't know what the term, in France? Yeah, but I'm, but I'm English, it's

nothing to do OCD. It's not PNL, it's not that. It's not that. No, PNL, is the moment of the

thing, that's the OCD is what? The OCD, I'm going to do you. Well, no, we go, we go, we go, we, well,

we're sure that we're going to have questions, it's what, O'C. But it's all the ramifications of a shock

post-traumatic, yeah, but it's a shock post-traumatic complex, and that's , You've been

been a time there's a trouble characterized by the pensions intrusive and uncontrollable

So, it's after It's the Trub Obsessional Compusive Okay, okay Okay, Okay, well,

Like the to Yeah, It's not D-Tuck It's not Tuck, but it's not Tick,

you know, Tick, and you know, it's a part of what the other thinks. It's

will be to be manifested in what the other thinks. It's part of the anxiety,

so it will be so it I'm not so the effect in the fact, in the phone, I'm not

and the world may have. But you think you're not when you're going to do? Well, yes.

It's really, I have two affairs in the entire of me. I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm really

someone who's like, you're like, man, you're like, you're not that would be that would be so that

would be that would have been if you're having a time, but then I'm the view

is to start this second voice that. Yeah. Cell that's that's not

I know, but, actually, I'm talking about in this little voice, that's that that's the day of course, that the day is more strong than, yeah. Is it hard to live with you, to partage your own your own? Is it's a good to share your own cotidian?

Well, yes. I'm someone of very, very, very social, but that's a business, let's we're, but, yeah, I'm very facile to live. I'd say, even, that's the first thing that my family would say about me, that I'm

that I'm in because you're a a jimel also. You know, we're like these females are made

to be at two? Yes, and my Psi, me said that in fact, it's so interesting.

I mean, with my Psy to say, like, we're like, when I'm, like, I'm,

when I'm, this point, I'm in this point, I'm not, I'm going to get to come, I'm trying,

to be discouraged, like, in the end of the end of the end of I'm, like, how,

how, how, how I'm arrive, I have the impression to try and try and then how that I'm like that's

I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm not so much I'm going to like I'm like it's interesting

what you do because often the jimaux have this sentiment of puce and they're in their own because they

have always grandiz with this phantasm that in some kind of of having an amour inconditional

and he he search this amour that in the interior to be like crime it's

it's it's in Big Brother you know you're in you're you're confined with other

is that that would be is that it did it does that did it I'd

not say it because she she'd go out of she'd gollas on she'd be

so correct I'm too drow I'm too there's too there's like there's like I'd like

I had more the regard on the resulta, but it was more anticipate what I was because I was like... You're like to letch prise.

Yeah, it was very droll in the confession. Well, that's nice. But it was so, so, so, so, so, don't,

it's to be to be at launch and then. At 100%. And that arrive to more, and more.

I'm more far, I think she will, she will talk, she will always probably, but there are

some of her when she's she'll be, there's a she's a chipped, she's a, she's,

She said that. You know, today she didn't know, she's like, she's like, she's going to she's going to

talk about, if she's more, she'll but it's at a year, but it's, at least, to her own, I think, I thought,

it was just it was the mine. Yeah, it's that, it's a yeah, so you can

get it in question. I can't, that's, it's a time, that's, it's a time, that's,

it's a part of therapy, there's people, there's people, there's not that they're not pre- to be,

I'm very pro of therapy. I'm very pro, like, I'm talking about people of and of everything, and if that person will find out of

them. We're like with what you've seen, you know, abuse, abuse sexual, abu psychologic,

it's a bunch of things. It's chunky. When you you talk of therapy, it's certainly I'm a good

candidate. You're a good candidate. But it's because it's a many of Couch, what you

just that's what you Yeah, but it's certainly some of the things that's it's

these traumas that's that fit in a sandwich it's, it's, it's these traumas

that's some between them because it's still certainly in question the

feeling. Is it easy for you to let you know? No. Well,

no, I'm dut at every second. It's it'll have been

time. Before I think really that my partner my it's it's really

it's time because who could, who could, who could, who could, who could you're in question

to try, it's not the other that's not question. No, no, it's not, it's not, it's never the other,

it's never the other, I'm not with the other, I'm a problem with me. And I'm don't know

to give you don't know to give some, but it's perhaps it's perhaps to be about Bobbley

that you've seen as big brew you, like you can be perhaps also confiant

No, but, me It's what I'm interested in the human justly between what we is, there's often there's often there's

some of the objectives, the cake of life, it's, it's the same person in the way, but that it can be

a life and perhaps that we'll be able to that. You know, because we can not

show, just on this little this particular this person, because it's really a

great state of vulnerability to be to be to be But you have on have

there's people around to you know who are? Yeah, yeah, well, yeah,

but that's it's sure, you can you put to depose. Yeah, yeah, and even in

the partage of what I see, it's a processus, like, I think, to learn

to learn and it's it's, it comes with the privilege to be to be,

like, you know, you know, it's never, it's, when it's, you know, there's probably

who can't who are, oh, Chris, my voice, my voice, in the phone.

The voice in my head is maybe not the truth, you know, I'm

really to that, I'm in that, the partage of what to be to be

to be other. But in my family, yeah, but all the world

of my family are, no, I'm really more who I'm

in a lot of in the time, I'm see, you're not,

I'm not, I'm, I think, that's, I'm It's all right. It's a lot of the sunbe. Yeah, I'm pretty. It's just a part of dark,

to catch my pardombs. But you're fine, because it's being, it's a-s-a-s-soy, the part of who we're we're not just, you know, what's we're talking to

show you, to make, you know, to be on the image of vacants, you're not on the cell where you're pogned with your chum,

you'll want to buy a ver of wine on a cushion, and all the people, you know, my life, my life, it's not that,

I'd like that it's so we'd reproach that presently we're in in a universe where all all over

but to talk about I'm not to say the phrase to say of the life in

three dimensions is that there's there you're not you know if you show you

show some some people that people who people you're wow

but if we're we're we're doing okay there's a also that that's

that's that's that's that's five. It's all you everywhere.

But it's for that I think it's important for me to do you know, yeah, no, I'm

don't know, I'm like, you want to know? Well, you know, I'm, I'm not, I'm,

it's so. Oh, no, no, but, it's too. It's too, we're right, we're right,

no, no, it's not, it's not, but I'm the way that you're because it's it's a

grand chimimimimed to be, because I don't know that you have always with the

No, no. You know, you're in therapy, you know, you've made, you know, you're doing chominyment, and it's capable to bring a degagement? Is it, is it behind you? No, is that it, we're not? But it's clearly not just in you're able now to be in

talking to it. It's already a lot of it, you know, there are a lot, you know? But I know I encourage to let's start. Absolutely. I'm going to have four of the yellow jones, four, cards. Four?

Four, four, cards. And I'll get to the list. You're in choice one, and I'll go. choose one. Oh, my worst cochement. And after that, I don't choose more. It's the last last year. It's all

me who's my other. After that, I'm choosing one of each level. It's not so bad. You're not

correct. Four? Yeah. Thank you. I can't do you look to the that I'm not

pished? Yeah, you can't play the role to play. Okay, is correct

I'm sorry. You'll see never, what's what there's on there's in there's a there's a

bit there. There's It's written, what role to play your Abolita in my life? Abolita,

is my grandmair. And what we're talking about a second. We're talking about a bit of a bit of

maybe. Maybe that's that's not received. What's the parent and who had been Manked?

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yes perfect I'm going to oh no it's free I've never so you've been so that's not

received that parents who you've been that's my good, seen come like

nothing like it's it's she had chied of a minute

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okay I'm okay I'm in my chame whatever I was sure we'd

not we've the perfect bonnour perfect bonnour like wow wow wow

wow wow and when they're they're they're shied far. Again

a show that my parents don't know that's a long time it's a few years

it's a 20 years you're going to you're not to say at a point where I'm okay

there's a there's a event let's I'm I think I'm it's not

it's not it's it's the fact papa mom what's you want

I'm I'm I'm probably there's maybe you're there's people who can't

there in there in I'm in a impression that we're banalize

the point that's a point of a parent and let's let's go for my first in a

first at Quebec we're a one of I'm a first of because the two could not

in a same time in a in a spectacle? Maybe maybe maybe I

all the long of show I'm like on the show you're not

not completely I'm you understand. Yeah. Fack, I think

it's because they've not wanted to do not to do you think that's there was a cause of the

separation. We had a different we're going in litigge for 11 years. It was like,

it was not a separation normal, there's really had a chican, there had been a

overka, it's really been something. So, my parents had not the time

to me, Okay, why mom and papa are so chiskinning like that? Okay, why see, why that? So, you don't know,

you'd get, you'd be able to, in the font. Yeah, and the three we were, like, but I know

that my parents had done that they could with what you had, and when you 'd be, you'd be,

you'd imagine what to be an adult, and you're like, but you're, like, it's,

I'm, like, I'm, I'm, I'm, my parents and, my mom had

had had at 32, I'm, 29, you know, at the age that I and my mother,

I'm in, my mother, my wife, then I'm in the 10 years, in the 10 years,

in the 10 years, I'm in my parents, we're, now in being adult, I don't know,

I don't my parents, I'm just like, these adults, more with the problems,

of adult, we're like, we're like, we're like, and I'm, we're like, now, I'm trying,

I'm sure how, the affairs can't chiro more more than we we'd

like to it's a like to it's like what you you're what you could be

you know the tisage that had between the two for provoking all that they're

they're they're but after I think there was there there's so I think

the three children it's really even of we've we've we've

not create not the conflict we're we're we're we're in the

problem just of the good solution because we're like, we're going to we're going to make the way to get

it's not to we're not saying, we're not there's a few that's not there's a lot of the routine, to be able to

the table, and we're not we're not we're not we're not my friends, we're like we're like,

we're like, we live we're, we live mal with that you, you know, that has been again

on the impact on me today, and and again it's, and again it's, and again, it

it's, it's, it's, a man that fit in the sandwich of trauma, of agression

sexual and of abuse psychological because I'm I'm I'm not, it's like, oh,

but I want we can't the problem. I want, I'm going to make the problem. So, what's what I

can do for me to make the person? That's so, you're not you adapt. Yeah, I'm adaptate

to an other level, it's an hyper adaptation. Yeah, it's on sure adaptation. Yeah, yeah, at a fond. So you're...

So it's it's easy to be able to know how it's it's really... It's really when I'm talking to talk to

the sandwich it's a lot of that it's a idea that's a chunk that's a chunk that fit well,

and that's close to get to get to get to get that. And it's kind of to do you

to make in sure that your parents not ever never reuny. You know, when you're

having to invite your two parents in all sorts of events in all right, even at the second my ball of finishance I'm like,

okay, what's we're like, okay, my paper, okay, okay, well, now it's not, we're going to,

okay, it's still that, and I know, and I know, that's not a desire to my two parents, I know,

I know, but it's not that's not a desire of their part, that's that's that, the impact

on the everyday, and so that the reality in some because, because if if you're

invite, the two, they're not, they're that? You know, you say, you know, you say, what I'm asking? You're like, it's like, it's so hard of question that I'm in the same time, that I'm like, I know

even not what to respond. You know, even if today would have the two. It's really hard of question that I'd say, oh, yeah, I'd probably their demand. You come? I'm just not, because I'm like, well, but maybe, but maybe it's not that that's that you have to be able to

be able to, not, to see, be it's all, not to re-revee, to say, There's a invitation. You know, a minute, but it's that.

I don't. I'm going because I'm checking this moment that I'm like, what's he's talking,

he's talking to, do you, so they're just to see, what they, what they

say for the first time? Because they have never revue. Well, no, they're so,

they're they're review, review at the epitcery, okay, but, but,

but, but, nothing, of official, Oh, well, well, no. No.

No. And, you know, I'm talking with with the legertity. But I think that the parents

separate, that's the situation, it's just that, like, it's that that's just

I'm not if we really, that's that's because we're like, but it's

there's can't a kind of after I'm I'm you're

I'm it's so, you it's kind of complex, but it's

It's so It's totally Because the You know, because you want to be The two But I'm

I'm, I'm past that, you're pasted that so you're like that's like you're to see what

that's I'm trying to get to you know, we're going to it's like that it'll

it'll arrive never it it'll ever never never never, never,

you've you've made the dewee of that oh, yeah and the three

and the three and I'm not if I'm not if we don't we're like in

in a moment of our view where we're me and we're always we're always we're always we're

pretty much but we're my grand friend we're like, but we're but we we're

we're trying to reconnected we're we're trying to pass more time and my friend he's

he's made to the daphne and it's the first baby of the family that's my

grand frere it's my so it's like it's like it's like, Daphne and like the suns of our lives, and we're, we're,

we're looking at same place, and that's the fact we, we're, we're, we're connect a little more, and there's a

lot, there, like, and we're, like, what the freak, you know, but it's, it's, you know,

to do you get to be, connecting with your grand friend, it's been a pain, to more to

more than, to my grandfair, and at a point, at the school of the humor, we had an exercise

a moment done of creativity, it was the course of creativity that was done by Nadine Maturin

who is an profe exceptional and she she didn't, she don't, remue some things to know about

our family and she was like, it's an atollier, take a point a point out of

your family. And what what's that's like, I'm, I've been had been

difficulty to design my my mother, and it's all that she's all that she's What member of your family

He came in first? Why you're doing it? After, it's a remunementage. And then I designed my mother, I've designed Zach.

And when I'm going to have done to design my frere, I'm just like the contour of his face, like if I'd

like if I'd like a bit of a face of bade, and she had put to put in the middle of the face.

I mean to have done his hair, and like an oval for his face and a

cut. But his regard, it's, I mean, I mean, I've made a point of interrogation, and I'm just made a braille in the course,

all the world, and I was like, I got, I got, I got, I'm, I'm cached at this moment at the school of the humor, and it's in 2021.

2020, at the school of the humor, I gotcha, that I'd know, my friend. It was my friend, but I'd know not,

you know, you know, sometimes a time, but, and then, realized that I'd that I'd that.

I wanted not that the dewee of my brother, I wanted not that. I'm

just going to me say, I've change the things of and I remember to have called

more often, to say, to say, I've got to we've got to I'm a more, and Gab

has never had never been a time, and when you know, when you know,

when you're a caress of your can't, you know, you're a, there's a,

it's there's Like if he He doesn't Like he's Like, Like, You know, like just

But, Mm-hmm But I'm I'm doing the I'm trying to To get in my bra, you I don't see

These, you know Not to see These cuts of Yeah, I want to I'm I'm gonna

You know, And, and I'm And I'm He'd be I'm I'm back I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Master,

it's he Okay, bye, I'm You know, because It's, you know,

it's even more important the fact that's the it's like if you're like you're in there's like you you're not in

the three in the same time in the place well it's yeah but that's it's really yeah but that

it's a but that this amour inconditional that it's precious really and your you know

you see I'm very I'm more but Zach I'm it's too it's my sole that's

I've ponded a lot of you've ponded a break. Zach, yeah, it's special, it's,

it's like, Zach, he will always be in orbit around the time, and we're like, hey,

we're not doing to eat at oh, okay, you know, there's not, there's not, the time is not important,

the line of time is not important, there, Zach, he's, I'm in a motor,

and Zach, he's like, the little, the little adjoo for the chien, and he's at co-to-to-move

of the same with Sylvina. Is that you're still the leader of the couple? Well, yeah, with Zach? Yeah. Again

again. Of the name of Mama, yeah. But yeah. I don't sometimes my life

I'm going to magazine for Zach I'd like like what you do. You want to do you do do these

children? Yeah, I want I'm just I want I'm also open to where the

life will be men to be and I'm in in pay I'm I want

to I want to me to choose and for me to have some it's not necessarily

to make a sacrifice of a person but it's a sacrifice but it's not to sacrifice that's not I'm I'm over

but I'm open to where the life me men let's know so you're not so you're not no the love

will be present in my life in my life quite yeah yeah question

I've there's there's there's there's there there's one there

there's that you it's it's it's if you What I'm trying to, do you? It's trying to to respond to that?

Well, I'm the best. I'm the best. I think that I'm a good blonde. I think I'm a good blonde when I'm in security. And for me to get in security, it's not, like, you're where, what do you

do? I'm a partner in my life, and I'm 100% confidence in him. I'm not a checker's of telephone. I'm not, I'm pro-independence, like, I do you know,

I'm doing, we're doing, we're talking to the and we're not cockon, you know, and I'm a lot of, so I'm a partonner, you know, someone who's like,

you know, like, but I'm very affectueue and farroche in the same time. I'm my moments where I'm like,

I'm like, there are some moments that I'm need to be my bill, and now, my

man, he's very well, it's when these moments there, but if I'm

very, I'm, I'm very, I want be a lot make laugh so I'm

all the time sketch all the time and then it's a weird what I say

because that's a little I'm a look at I'm I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, my chum, I'm

going to do you're doing do you do you because you're good with

him in the regard goes all all all all

yeah but you know, I'm not to be like, oh, we're there's a turnuie far, the world no,

regard to the rest of, you know, I'm like, well, I'm, I'm, I'm chappen, a pass,

you know, I'm like, oh, no, the regard of the other, it's not that, I'm, I'm,

I'm all, I'm in I'm fu, I'm really, I'm really, but, yeah, I'm really

generous, so, so, so, I'm a little a little cadow, kind of,

yeah, your language of the it would be that? I'm the impression I think there

is an priority in my language of my love, but my language affective,

but I think I think I'm these are I'm very physical, but I'm very in the

service also and I'm I'm a lot of time of quality. You're you're doing that,

I'm not to be in couple with the good person, but I'm not someone

who's I'm not very well. I'm don't, I'm it's not a

business oh, no, no, But is that you've been rapidly in love

with him? Yeah. Yeah. He me would have crampy. He me fucking Rere,

Seb. And, and I'm really, like, to be charmed by the humor,

I, I, I want, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to, he's,

I'm very, central. You know, I'd be in my life, be humorous, but,

I'm even, I know, a, I know, a, I'm, a partner kind of,

Molo, and it's with him that I can be molo, but we're really two little clune. We're just all the time. You know,

we're, we're, we're, we're, we're doing a little break at the other, like that.

Yeah, but it's good, that. I think, I think, I think, that's a , it's a

matter of the lightety. Absolutely. But, even in amitiers, also, with my

friends, I'm, I'm, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'm, I'm,

very sensible in the time. When we have some of the conversations very profound I'm I'm not

I'm not in these moments like in the moment or whatever I goce I'm going to I'm not

I don't know I'm trying all the time to make a movie I'm very with who we're in

on often who is Pascal Marino you've you've got you're too no not not

not yet Pascal is crampant but she and she and she has my first party in this moment

of Toreador And what a gift of to pass the time with her to do you have to do that's to be a little bit of our yule? Oh my God

we're really from one and the other like the monster bossy, yeah. You've had some you're really really.

So, and even what type of I'm sure, the same is really proche of the amy that I'm for me,

for me, to the love, it's of love, and you It's a problem. It's a absolutely. And of the humor.

Really, really, that's what I'm really, really, that's what I'm don't know three, you want to choose one, you want to

choose one that's a single, but you're on three, I'll let me tell you I'll tell three. Yes. Yeah.

Oh my God, baby girl. Thank you. What is your rapport with the death? Ah! Is that you

have already, is that has already at the limit physical or psychological? Oh.

And what is your definition of a relation toxic? Ah! Ha!

Ha! and you do? Hey, it's not the farce on, this podcast that?

No, it's so, it's Sacramento. I'm choosy one? Yeah.

No, I'm no, I don't know I'm no, it's finished. It's just

you. Well, I've never talked with my marriage, but it's so it

is probably that's the butt of my Hey, we're in It's what, What I'm not trying?

It's what I've got to read? What is it to read? What are the problem? Hey, we're in the theme, huh? Okay. We're in the level Roach. Oh, my Lord.

Okay, I'm going to what's what you're going to why I'd like, the matter of what, I think it's really interesting because I think we're I'm talking more but this moment

of the podcast will be very embryoeneer in a sense I'll be probably say I'm probably made in phrase for the first

for the first it's interesting but it's probably that's probably that's fucking decoose and contradict to do you

do, is you're already at the limit of physical or psychological? I think that yeah because there

I'm a shock post-traumatic so I so I think my limits have been the moment when it's

been a trauma so Yeah, and what is he defined a relationship we're like, she's like this is like

this is like if you know, if you know, it's when that someone who lives that's going to be,

so I'm trying, so I'm trying to to say this moment that for it for that if there there's

there, who you're that we're that's a moment that, you know. I think we're going

to go to the more, we'll talk about to that, but rapidly, my definition of

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What's your rapport with the It's what to you? My report with the mom I'd say that I'd be doing this Because You'd Posed the question

But in fact I think I've been That's my Rappar with the Mour You know, I Accompany my

Mair I don't know My mother She'd I've been sure to see, to see,

someone to be able to be able to be able to the same, it's clear that it's it's been

confronting for because of the people, I see people that accept that accept this that's, and I

think it's more easy for those when you when you're ready, so I'm doing,

how I'm I'm doing, I'm I'm trying to try to I'm not to have a little

son, I'm there's another who's on a At the moment where I'd where I'd would be

to make the pay with that, the fact when I'm coming to when I'm I'm in a

I'm in I'm going to see it. Yeah, it's the same, I said, I'd say, I'm saying,

my parents, they're great, they're, so if if it's all they're all they're all and they're

there, when there's a little, you know, when you know, when you're a little, you're talking,

you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you're in view, to see deployer. Now,

he march, he starts to start, it's really fascinating. So, so we're that's difficult.

You know, there's people who say, yeah, but the time, I'm not

able to say that. I'm the impression that's the end of something, and not

the first of another thing, so, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm trying to know my spirituality, I'm just, like, to just, like, live,

plainment, and to to stop to think to the after, because you

know, you know, I'm doing a lot of a conference and I'm who is

sure that who is sure to be in the way, it's sure that I'm sure that I'm

sitting in this cell. There person that's what it has been

to accompany my friend, I know, and I'm saying, these people they would tell me

even even live, that it's like if the more, it's a motor for live even more, to stop, to report the things, because, justly, as we know if we're going to be able to be

a day, you know, even, I've got a obsession when I was when I'd be able to get to see, is, is, is, is, I'm recuished this night?

Now, I'm okay, there, you have to start, because that's a little, because it's a bit, because I've been, the pressure, but because I

have been, you so, I've had like a, and now, is just is just, is, maximum, because if tomorrow it's

arreight, well I'd like that the people around have been for me, she's not, hey,

she has told she's not, because it's a pain in those who rest also, when you see someone

who's someone who who can't, who can't, who can't, so, I'm trying, that's that

my life, that's my life, it's, the life in that I'm going to re-reported. So,

so it's, so it that's, so, now, when I'm The death, what I'm scared is

not the death, it's not the life, it's when you're going to see, when you see, there's a way of people

to die of people that's, you know, there's a crime that's my cring that's how I'm how I'm how it.

What's what, because that probably, it's extremely subitement or at a travel

of a suffering, you know, I think, I think it's a bit the thing that we have to

let's in the world, in the same, to make all the times, to get to

to be a good fashion, you know, to not not to put on the same, you know, if you know

if you're going to be about the chance to consult and the privilege we have, to be, like,

to be a country developed, and even, I'm, we're doing that, we're a country, but, you

have a people in a country developed, who live in a new misery, yeah, but there, there,

there, you know, there, there, and I think, that, you know, that's, you know,

and then, after that, you, Right, we're going to sure that we're sure that we're sure that's the same,

even if, you know, when it's when it's always in a matter to make a question, I'm saying, yeah,

but I'm saying, yeah, I'm sorry, I was too the first time, it was a few, because I thought because I'm going to

cause, it's my mind, you know, my God! You know, I had not got to be it's the

old, so, so, I had a power to have caught to catched, that it's like,

it's like, it's like, it's like , it's like Because I accepted, because I had a leave, the nine months of grossess, and I regarded

never the accouchement. And then, I said, well, it was going to be going to be in a few days, in a few weeks maximum,

and I've got that, okay, it's, it's, because it's crevary, the other, I'm quite, but certainly,

the word, crever, you, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, finally, it's a lot of

, so, due, little, little, little, little, so, I'm,

I'm, you're, I'm, I'm incein, it will have to be able to have to be a moment

of the baby I'm a moment of the time, that's not. It's not, you know, , and I'm not. A lot, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. I'm not. It's not. I'm not. I don't know. Doste as young that I

can remember I'm to say I'm going to say I'm young. I'm

so you know at the primary and it's not something that I knew that I knew that

I know that not it's not not I'm at the interior of me

and the first first when I'm going to like you like you with your

thing you're like with your like, Arrite, Lillianne, you're super long time, you go,

it's a crouch. It's the first thing she she's like, she's a first time that's the first

that I'm at a bit more more, but, but, but, but, no,

for she, she, she, I'm gonna, she, I think, it's like, it's like,

it's a time, it's pretty to say, to it's just to say, to let's say, to be,

to be, and I'm , and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but, sometimes

these mornings I'm saying I think I'm going to move to move today. But it was just a

fear that's a problem that she had t' she had she was she had a

false presentiment I'm so that I'd say that I'm brought to

much of anxiety quite it's maybe also to the anxiety to be

there's there there's there's a family there There's like a family with the

life with the line of the line brisier. It's the finitude, it's the end of something. Yeah. So,

you know, not to be not able to say, I'm going to more, I'm being a more, I'm a

state of stress a little to be a about, what the thing, and my and my

and my and it's correct, we're doing, we're doing is correct, we're too correct, we're too,

we're too, I'm trying, I'm, I'm, I'm, a child of type, courageo,

but peoreo, We've grown to We've got to go We've got to We've got to With these With the brue of orage And it's it's so

You were there? No, but All the years We're pasted there Not an electricity Noctuary Not all the Every week of our

Every weekn of our We're always We're going to So there was a toad And to have a toad And totoe When it was A gout of blue

You know Like the brew And all this It's like When you're in gang I think That's correct And as I was

all it was tough because when he vented a lot of my my father would be able to

work he went to work he went to him he went to he meant because he

vented too but he went in tabar in a cocimm it's not he went in Christ

so I had a fear that my parents mear I had probably there

I had scared of there had been I had had had been to have

my client I today today I I have the to have my parents

because, I'm more and I'm going to think we're doing to talk about now that I'm an adult and that I'm

more than you understand. I think I'm I'm afraid of the more again. I'd like that to say

that I'm I'm going to say I'm but I'm I'm afraid to the death. And is

what you think, is you think at the fashion you're to move

yeah. Yeah. Well, It's really not these belles images, I'm gonna

imagine that I'm in char in an hour in a show to see. And all of that's the things that

in a sense but I'm imagine, I'm imagining, I'm gonna to make sure, to be, to come to

to my family. Is it have been you in your life? These dewe important? Well,

in terms of mortality, there had had been abolita, there had a great- grandmaire, who was like a

mother also, you know, we've grown with her, we've got a family, we're living at a old,

but at the day she was, we're at our own own and then we had switched. And that it was a

particular, we had to have to be at the hospital when she was in life and she

had been more conscious, but it was really particularly to see a car and

view like that in these the last moment, you know, that's a tough because I'm

wondering what's going to what's going to what's in she's not, she's not, she's not, she's not,

she's in, she's in, she? Yeah, it's in, or the medication also, they don't sometimes

those, some of some of life? No, there, there had not there,

I think, there's, I think, there's, like, it was, there, there was,

there was, there was a protocol, that's this thing natural, no, I'm

I'm afraid to have been I'm afraid of I'm afraid to get really to get a lot because it's a better

definitive I think I'm a matter I'm yeah I'm because I love because I love

I'm too I'm I'm that it's I'm that I'm that you understand

but your grandmire is that the deye has been painful is that has you

have been a important yes yeah yeah there also

a a co-the surreal to that in mode my grandparent

Spanish, I'm never knew he's deced at my innocence so at Abolita

it's like the sole grandparent that I had in orbit around

because the parents of my parents of my parents of my

parents, we were really not because for other reasons

you and it that's it that it has been

not not necessarily the reason but it it was correct, that's

like that's like a when the abolita is mort, yes it's a great deem but it's when the two

other other were like, I was like, I was like about the same like, you know, it's like I

had just one grandparent. I'm because the other there had, like, there was,

it wasn't, it's not the person important. Much more. We're we've seen some of

some people but, but, but much a link emotional had more.

More. Is that you speak Spanish? When I was when I was when I'm sure you're doing,

but now I'm still in your grandmother you're talking about in hispaniol Yeah but again it's a language

very familial we're not political you know you I'm but it's like it's familial I'd

I'd say that it's not rudimentar but we're not really but then after I'm I'd say

at 90% After, it depends also of different regions if there's some way, it's going to be like, I'm going to I agree with.

But I'm at an time, at a time, I'm at a time I'm a step too, let's make you get on the

Spanishol, there's really a part of that I'm that I'm, I'm like, well, I'm, you know,

you can't, you know, if you're going, you're going, and then, it's so. Yeah. So,

so, so your other grandparents they're just have been too, you're young too, you're young

can't even, you're young, Yeah. Yeah. So the Marr, it's something to be quite

something to definitely have because I'm really the shined the war finally. And I'm hot of the moment

where I would be perhaps because you have a life to be your and the murder of

your and the more of my proche I'm not that person has mal I'm

I'm not but that person is ill ill. But it's difficult to to see the I think it's really I think it's soff

to play I'm trying to to get to it's all yeah is that you do you're ready on the

rose oh my god we're to hear I'm saying so you so you there's

there's five questions you're you're gonna you've been one on on the four

after the after the more what's you're what's yeah sometimes

it depends of the question that's sometimes it's different there's maybe

you're that I'm not who's always with the nudity. Okay. We've got to Is it a sexuality

is a subject taboo in your family? What's the would have made to know on the sexuality

at 20 years? Of that how your way your time? Oh my God. And prefer you seduire

or to do you do you? It's a very quite. Fun, fun,

fun, yeah. You're choosing one of okay, I'll go with, to what

your sexuality has been to do you know, that's the first thing. That's the best of the way,

go, my God, okay, um, to what you do you know, the way to do you know, I think it's

a subject that's a whole long of my life, and I'm content with that. And I

have the impression that the car of the family is baruette at the way and we're

there's things really too, let's the muttererice internal, and how the woman

function really at the time and the moment where you're the most excited, you know, we're not

to get to find that, we're doing that, we're doing that can't be banded, the girl will be mouye,

and he will have a relation sexual. Yes, we're going to be able to get to be there,

so, yeah, you'd prefer a fellation, and, yes, you could receive a

class, but, but, but, not more, you know, we're not,

I'm the impression that be very, very, very, um, associated to queer. You can't,

even in the heterosexuality, it's like, yeah, but why we find a little there? You know,

I know- really more open with the sexuality, because I think it fantastic, the sexuality,

but I part really to long. I, I, it's, it's, ah!

I'm, I'm I don't even when I was Okay, I remember when I was young In second hour, I was, I, I'm not in 6th year, it's so, I was at Let's see, I'm trying, let's say, I'm masturbate, let's say, let's

Um, it, it was the blonde to my brother, Kim, who is still the blonde of my brother, so, they're, they're, they're, they're, it's, well, there, it's, 18, 18, 17, 17, 17 years who are together

of the same Kim it's a man at a part of the family, it's my sister,

it's my mother, it's a pretty, Kim, it's fantastic and she's not about my

man more than I'm more than I have three and three and a three and a three and a three and a

three and a question, it's a big discussion but I did you know that you're that I'm

you know, no, I mean, I'm still on plus, we flatted my chine at

term, really in like, we're going to I'd like I'm going to I'm going to

like, I'm going to be a course of sexuality really really rapid, like that he's not

about the masturbation, huh? No, but it's been long taboo, it's a

but we're not it's not, it's not it's not a subject that we're really not not.

And there there's something with the guys where just just view the mechanics of a penis

that's you know, you know, you know there's there's movement, boy, he

and that's the same, it's like, for me, that's the same, it's like, it's like, it's like,

I'm going to, it's like, it's like, it's really, because the guys, they can't say what, to have to

get to do you before, because they can't say what, it's a feeling, it's to be the , we,

we have, we're going to get to come to get, to come, to get, and then, you know,

yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know, you can't be to be masturbate, she had like, the

female to me and she she had been she, she had like, she, she was like,

oh, hey, she's like, she's she's, well, at a moment to know,

you'll have an orgasm and I'm, and I'm sure, I'm crossed for the first time,

and all the days after. Now, you're discovered, yo, I'm just just,

I'm, I'm, like, it's not a, it's not a, like, well,

my, my, my, my, You know, I'm going, oh, okay, we're going to flatted the chie on, and then. Now, you've been to do you say to? But not necessarily, I'm not, I'm not, I'm,

my afternoon, book, it's not that. But it's just, it's just, it's a story. Yeah, really. I'm saying, she's like, offering to me to learn to what, and, who is, that, who is fucking de base. She's that, she's saying that, and you're like, okay, at the time, now.

Yeah, and she, she knows, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, so much one for just the way that you had said that I'm

going to and how you could be crossed. And that I'd but after, you know,

we're still in the problematic of the separation so, so what's that's not the

mind of me and it's like, you know, there's not there's not, you know, there's not,

you know, so, so, Kim, has just by a reason at this person

that, so I'm far to know because I didn't know because I'm never that I'm never,

because I'm after, it's It's been too the joys but the joys

are in my life like a a chaff like, I'd like, I'd

try to get to do the sort of I'm encourage all everyone to everybody, it's a

thing, you know, you know, you know, I'm really, you know, the joy like a plus

to the sexuality, like, um... At the sexuality, in the couple

also? Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the couple also, by the consentment and

the desire of the other, I'd I'd say that I want to be that I'm in the sexuality be a

first point in my relation. For me, it's like a adjou, you know, you know, to get the

emotional to have. Oh, my God, yeah, definitely I've been, I've been

someone who, I've never had a one night. It's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, I'm very, I'm over to move to someone and to partage a

sexuality, for me, it's really a great don't to say, and I think that the relation sexual,

well, the aggression sexual has really been fragilize something really, by the more than that.

So, more, I'd say, it's really a don't of a soul, it's not

pretty at the leisure for me, the sexuality, you understand. So, so I think it will evolve

always, my car will change, my My needs to be changed. But you're at least in this zone, yeah.

And I think there's a suit logic in all what you say, you know, I mean have a pleasure, rir,

and there's what you continue even in this zone that, that's sexuality. It's that the same person,

because, you know, I was content to have the level eros, because it is a person may

not, not in it's not in not in, you know, it's, it's, it's,

it's part of the, Yeah, well, really. And I think that, a damage. Well, I'm sorry, I'm not

forced to the man of person, but I think to do much to get to be able because it's good news, you know,

it's like, you know, it's partage the good, it's been between friends, you know,

between, you know, and the place, but you know, to be to be partaged the things

that's I'm sure, I'm sure, that's a different to exchange to, yeah,

than, by example, my generation. Yeah, but I, I'm the impression that, Yeah, the change is

really more easy, but I'm an impression that's a degree of performance that's a

degree of performance, that's a good, performer a little, that's, that's, that's,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I've talked too much, I've talked

to see, often in my music of TV, and there's a lot, that's not a place, it's not,

it's not something, but, in the time it's like also a taboo to do it's a taboo

to say that's something that's something that you're a thing, it's a true of taboo the sexuality it's a

taboo to say to say, I'm like that or more I'm not, I'm I, I, I,

what's what we have, what's the person who's there's there's kind of there, there's

the person who has, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, because it can, we, we can have a prejudiced

face to the woman and the women, especially a woman who say

openly, I'm I'm a sexuality active, it's a there's, there's,

there's like a little a bit of recule of certain people. And I think we

have, you know, it's about it can't matter how we can't it's

part of the life? Well, yes, honestly, I'd not, I'd

not more than you know, the violence sexual, it's definitely not something

that I I'd want to person. Because even if I tell you I think it's a cycle

to see that the sexuality and I think it's important, there's there's there's

in my sexuality just with what I 've been so how you've you've got to

get to get to the sexuality? I'd say the therapy there

had been a period where I thought that I had been to live a orgasm after

what I'm Or even, but I'd say that, and it's not like if there's a lot of before, even today, it's these people, it's these bruleers that are really profound, and I think that the survivors of, survival, it's bad ator

because it's, it will be maybe be a little bit all the time, it's, it's, it's, but it's all right always a while you know, but it's all the time, you know, it's like, it's like, really, there's like, there's, like, there's a thing, it's there, you can, hey, man, yeah,

But even if I have a belle sexuality with my amourou, there are some of my head, we have to be in my head, we'll that you're trying. Because I've been because I've been violated,

it's also simple that, you know, so, yeah, the triggers are, the triggers are everywhere. So, he's

he sui there in, he understands that. He's not the when you talked, when you said when you

secureise, it's also in the sphere of the intimacyity or he's and you can you can't be in your head.

Absolutely. To pleurie. You know, yeah, Seb, he Macri really in in,

in really all the colors that I have, and I think we can associate the sexuality

to something that has with an any a little if it's like a way,

let's it's that's it's and oh my god, and oh my God, and it's just in panted my tent and oh my God, we'll have the moat and then,

it's, it's so. It's, it's, it's, there's, it's, it's there, it's a lot of and it, it's a texture. He's been to pass some things in our head, also, but it's

there's some super-bele-chose, and sometimes it's really not really bad things. So, yeah, I'm When you came, the first time that I've been the first time that I'm feeling to be jeaned of that like, fuck, I've ruined the moment.

Oh my God, fuck, I've ruined the moment. Ruined the moment, like, I think that we associate that, perhaps like the women, we associate that,

to not, to gnaise the guy. Ah, but if we're so long in the process of, well, but I'm not, back off live. But no.

But in my time, to be to to permit, you know, to, you know, to, to nom, I'm in my

head, we're in a time, it's in a matter, it's a exactly, because if you 'd be able to

say that, probably that you'd want to be in sexuality. Well, definitely, it would it would be, it's a

sexuality performative, so, so, so, and it's a time, but,

but the moment that's performatif, is, is that you really, is what you want to, is what you

understand? Yeah. I encourage really, the people to pose these question, and then, and then to

open a discussion by the way, if you're saying if you're saying, like, I think I'm I'm going to say, but it's not

that I'm not to say I'm not the pleasure, I think it's like, it's just to have to open the discussion.

Yeah, because you can't not impede these images to come back, no. So, so you have

that you let's all right, it's like a flot to get to get to, you know, you've got

that sort, and in the same time, and in the I think it's a great victory for you,

because you continue to have a sexual. We have not broken completely this aspect that's a

that's so that's so that's because the sexuality by the person, it's so we're

we're associing the sexuality to a pleasure to do to often to be an energy but

well well so I think that's really important to be so yeah

your message is very pucous, Lilianne. I'm not what I did. Well,

of all what you do you say, it's a life sexual where I'm a new sexual

where I'm a pleasure but there are some where the past and at 100%

at 100% you know you're not in a thing, you're not in a future and

your partone and you know, but it can't not you don't

not to have a life sexual it's I know

I can't it's impage to have a bit because they're they're they're not

to be able to have a part of a partner or a partner, you understand? They don't they're not

to be partage that but I'm like a matter, it's a place, it to get to

get to to say to that other you've not you know, in the sense there's like

I'm not I'm not a vengeance but you know, no, you know, you're

I'm I've seen, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm not you've you've got you

all complete. because you have you need to give to do you know, it's frustrating because

I think the chominingement it's with a point in front, two

on the three point in front, one point in three point in two, path in

back, the importance is to see, and even if I'm not, I'm not not,

I'm not not even not, I'm not still, I'm not people, but it

will be normal sometimes, to be frustrated, like, let's see, I have you done, do have you done have to be

doing to see? Why, I'm not at an other stade live. It's been there's been there's a

justice reparate, you know, but, no, I think it not, I think, it's not

to tap on the story. Yeah, it's it's fasas not. It's

how to learn, to live with, to bring a recule, sometimes the time does the

Your souvenirs are more sub- with a with a sublimeer it's, it's,

it's, it's stomp Yeah, well, it's a good comparison with the book because

it's not this eventment let's not, I'm not I'm not I'm not want to let's

a chapter of my life. It's a tough but it's not a chapter.

It's depends your book in the book, you know, what's what's what's

just the page of the front. Yeah. But it's a sometimes it can be a fill a field of a few

a field conductor for the rest where you reprent your power at a 100% and that

it's the time that's the time that's being entoured you know, you can't you can't

be able to you can't to be vulnerable to people who are people who don't

you touch to a really really good to it's a very system of support, and I think that, I think there's

probably, I think there's people in distress that men, who have just not this gift of this moment, to have some people around them.

And then they're and then they're we're not, and they're not, because we're not afraid, well, we know the

way to support the to support the regard of the other. Absolutely. One way that we've never, and

you've got the scene also, who's your name, the scene that to be able to be plenty of that's

your blessings, in the your blissures are more apparent on the scene and you're

name, so you go long. Yeah, you're adored you know. Derey ador. The question,

Lillian, the question optor-resor when you regard the entire of your life, what was

the moment, what was the moment markant? It's a beau moment? A,

not a moment? I'd have been a beau moment. Yeah, we're

we're brace a man. Yeah, we'll have a good moment. It would be your moment Marking in the table? Oh my God, you know,

were you're too dark? No, but it's your story and in plus you're really, it's a story I think it's difficult but you're

not on a tone difficult because you're in chenminement because you've made a way, because you've ever could have been there,

if you'd have been in there if you'd have been able to not even not even not not exactly because you know

sometimes there's sometimes you're there's just me why why you're not not She's not She's not She's been to

live She's She's even She's I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

a recule So you have You know, when you regard when you regard the entire of the life,

that's It's a moment It's a moment When the first time you have done the

thing, I see something that's something that's something that something that I think I'm in I'm going to

my Olivia to discover of the It's recent there It's super recent. I've worked for

this pretty long not necessarily for the price. I'd expect it the price.

It's the price that you look when you're young and you look, oh my God, that's a

price that's a price to get in the table and you're a new polem and there's all the

chaves and you're like oh my God and the chevales it's, you it's, you it's

it's the Cateleovec and it's Adib and Martin Matt and Simon LeBlant you know

of the people who you're going the person with who I had been he said he said that

the humor wasn't he said before I did before I you've said oh yeah you're

you're well you're well you've been in this show he he had said

before before I before I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm So I've always advanced in this milieu that

in thinking that the world because if the word not the word it's not the world they're going to the world

I'm following, why? Why the world me see that? I'm like, I never thought a second that the

world would be that's really just someone who made that's just someone who yeah, absolutely

so they're absolutely. If you, there's a question, if you're, we're, we're,

we're, it's just, it's really the heart of the relationship. Yeah, me to say to say, I'm trying to say, I've been really

advanced, and I'm in being a moralist, and that I'm really, because this person would have been in this desire,

he had been me, he had failed, he would have really been this little light, this little

flambe that, that had been my passion first, because I had a young,

I've never wanted to be other other other When I got gained DECoverte of the year,

it's a because it's a recognition of the cause because I'm a time to be really to

me find validing in my, in my ecosystem by other, by the people that

I respect enormously, it's really really come to get a

little file I'm I'm really like a vase petted that,

but pete, and it's been culled all like of the there

in the it's like it's it's like it's like because he to see some some of the

doubt yeah for you get to I'm like I'm sure, I'm

just like I'm like twas to you know that you took you're repri your

power that's yeah so that it's very significant that that definitely

definitely because you're there had your had your recognition of your

proper recognisance of invert you. Yeah, really, and it's great

that for me, and my Psy she had also about, she was what one of the most far in my

life, by a chance, to be, to be, like, and I'm, like, too,

and I'm, and I'm, and she had a lot, and she's , it has been two years

that we see a part of the pastianel, and she was like, you know, never,

the things don't you feel, because we're know, that my my own just is to be

a feeling of a thing, you know, she has made understand that it's a big point in

avant probably of my person, and of what I've traversed, and be able to name something

that I created, and that's something that's something something that's something that I've always

always, and there's recognized, so it's so it's so it's that's arrived at a good

place. That my efforts have brought fruit, that I've you've done

you've done a direction and you've got seen, you know, and it's like, you know, I'd say, we've got to do, I'm not

not saying, I don't know, we've got to do things, we've got in a sense, I mean, I've been of a family where

it's petted in second in R3 at the be in the real milieu, like, I don't know where I've

found the force to go to my first stand-up at secondaire in spectacle, I don't know if I've got to find out of this courage

I'm fed, no problem I'm sure to be stressed but I'm also to me say I gotta do it

I'm gonna do it I'm gonna yeah, what's the way I'm gonna do you what I'm it's all it's not

it's not oh no it's even not not is we're we see we see we're

okay well okay it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not

it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not you're not you I've been

to like you have to the first time you have to be the first of you know,

not the fact you're not you're able to say, oh, it's, it's pretty that's fucking more than you

say the next I'm pretty prepared. And then the year after I'm not made second

in a spectacle I'm just like I just like I'm I'm in so it's

kind of time of time of time of the time time of the second of third,

secondar three so I'm secondar three Then, then, Segepp 1, Segeb 2, Segeb 3, I've had all animated the final of Segeep in spectacle. After, I've made my auditions at the school of the humor. I've done. Three years different.

Three years of eight, clack, clack, clack. You've never been arreta. You've never arreed. I've never heard. And when you've been accepted, you, they've reacted? You're reacting to, how? I'm fucking content. I'm fucking content, really stressed,

and in the same, oh, no, is it? They've done, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. I don't know. I doubted, you know. But I didn't know who I really had

I didn't, I know I was a I knew that, I know, but I'm a few my joke in the phone, I don't know, I'm going to

I'm trying my jokes after the school, it's not not during the school, it's after the radio social have reinforced

who I'm for real, and the people who me see, have really been a buoy of softage for me.

It's important, because, you know, we accuse the radio of a packet of of things, and you say, you know, it's been a bue of softage.

At 100%. Because you're a great, grand, community who's and it's made, to believe to think it's not

you. Yes, because what I said, had been and appreciated, and I was like, eh,

but there's a lot of who I'm even for who I'm , I said, I said, I said, I said,

I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, three

months after my rupture. I was trying, I'm trying to try to you know,

you've got to have been no, but you're that's not that you could be really,

because I felt like, the rupture is made, the way where I'm, I pice to not

understand the thing, I'm not bad, you know, I'm not, I'm really more than

nothing than the reasons social, I think, we're we're accord a lot of

people, the people who are, oh my God, you know, in talking of the person in the public,

you know, you've got to have done but, but I'm really my community, my community,

me, I've really done a purpose, and to want to be a partone to be a

chum, I'd really be their chum to be their chum of their chum to feel. it's a turbo-marched.

Thank you, Lyme. It's a super dark like an episode. Well, it's your story,

honestly, I think very strong, Liam. Stop it. You've seen that, to have

to have like appropriated to your way, to be able to be to be able in a

deny, we're not a suffrage again. How you've seen? But it's

because I feel that your suffering, she's there, but you're in

processus of so that's for that you're capable to be able to and it's a time to it's a

idea of it's a idea of I'm in I'm in I'm in a desire so that's

a desire so that it's a fact that it's in movement, you're in action

and it's it's to be able to be and it and probably to be and it

and it I'm I'm I'm if you there's there's there

there people that over that that's that it's switched

when I mean, I said that I wanted to be my and that I, in the interior of me, me let's not... I'd let's not my amy my friend, you know, it's even not, like, oh, you'd have to do that at an amy?

And I was like, well, but when it's the exterior, I'm like, no, I'd, obviously, I'd probably not, I'd have not been my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, I, I'd want to be my

and I'd be more. So, you'd have to to be sure of this amy there. Yeah. But, thank you, really, what I'd want to say

a encounter inattended. I'm going to really, really content to to know it more than to get to watch

to watch to watch. I'm in your heart of your time. Thank you to everyone

to have been there. We've been to live something. I'm going to live your question.

There are a lot of there's a lot of there's much I think in the good,

I think, it's really important. Thank you again to all thank you to all.

Thank you. This episode was presented by Karin Junkah, the reference in matter of of the Soin'O, in Quebec, and by the Mariclob, which is a space consacred to be in

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