Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #163 - Thomas Levac et Stéphanie Vandelac | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: July 3, 2026

Une grande première à Ouvre ton jeu : Un couple!Stéphanie Vandelac et Thomas Levac ont accepté mon invitation. Comme ils animent ensemble le balado Couple ouvert, je trouvais que c'était le couple idéal pour casser la glace de ce nouveau format.J'ai grandement apprécié cet épisode en leur compagnie. Ils ont été généreux, authentiques et très complices l'un envers l'autre.Thomas aborde sa peur de l'abandon en lien avec la perte de sa mère alors qu'il était tout petit et on comprend que cela le suit aussi au sein de sa relation amoureuse. Stéphanie parle de sa peur du rejet et de la première fois qu'elle a ressenti un sentiment d'appartenance à un groupe.L'histoire de leur couple est la trame de fond ainsi que celle de la parentalité.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:14:12 Cartes vertes00:50:59 Cartes jaunes01:31:49 Cartes rouges01:50:56 Cartes Éros02:22:06 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.Découvrez la nouvelle collection MarieClub : Espace mieux-être et Ouvre ton jeu de notre boutique en ligne. Une sélection inspirante pensée pour vous accompagner dans votre quotidien.✨ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boutique.marie-claude.com/⁠

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Ytian Collin at the captation. Today, it's an first because it's

the first that's the first time that I'm a couple. You know, we have the game regular, and we have the red, which is for dating, and couple.

We have never still used the jeue red here, around the table. So, today, I'll make a melange, there will

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after we're going to be in the version couple. So, I'm hard to live this with you, I see what,

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thought to two animators of a couple open, which is one of the podcast that's the

podcast that is Toma LeVac and Stephanie Vandlack who anime this podcast

that. The two have other podcasts. It's people really really really

known in this universe We are, we're going to ask if they're a couple open, because it's

the name of their podcast, but well, it's maybe just a name, but as they're not, but as long as they're in

all the zones, they're at least to talk to talk to do, I'm saying, well, there's the fun to start with

a couple like so. So, I want to say, place to Thomas and Stephanie. You know,

the dewe of a child when he was that is done, is is that has been done?

No, because a trick that genial. Two things. First,

when we're these little when we're going to be to go to my wife, the children want to be

very. I've got to be the parents, yeah, I've had been the pain to my father. I've

really been my man. I've even had to be able to my man.

I've already to play my year at my year at seven, and they're there's, it's,

they're in people are, they're in there's It's like that he's He's He's permitted to live

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Your Open Your Open, and the edition couple are available to Quebec

and on randolph.ca. I was very excited of this podcast because it's the first that I

receive a couple so it's not too I've got I've got a bit made the game differently,

we'll see what it does it but it's two people very open

of the and they're able to communicate in the couple. That's my

primary criteria I've Fugain a couple that's because what we

want is that the couple sort in schcomb. I want to ask them. We'll have a We're a piece

that. Ah, you know I'm going to Hey, well, welcome, Toma, welcome, Stephanie.

Okay, so you other, you want to see that. Well, we're not to be so to get a

show. We're going to do you do it, and we're doing a show, but you're doing do you

so I'm content to you're so, you know, I'm talking when I you're

in introduction and you know, your podcast is called Coupe Coupe Coupe

I'm sure that if there are some people who are going to be the first question are you're going to ask you're an couple open up to be able

you're just people who are just people who are there's just a lady female if we're if we're if we're

if we're a couple open, good, well, well, well, well,

well, well, yeah, but, yeah, they're doing it, they're playing it's a,

it's a, it's a time, you know, it's a time, sex oral, they're not they're not

all the whole long the podcast, Mike Ward is not We're so-excout by the police and we're not a couple-overed.

It's really just for imaged just to what you'd say in introduction that we're open to be open to be open to an open to be able to never been to

until the present monogam. It's too the organization. All the coupepard we've talked about the most difficult, I've had a

order of course I'd have to give the calendar I can't be able to yeah. It's too to get some

the calendarier and also communicate and all you're there's many there's a community to communicate. I desire this

woman. Is that you are at least that I'm at least to be able to that I'm that I'm going to go to be able to

I'm going to do you know no, no, no. So, in the point you're in a total include. In fact,

in your in your cup, all is incalue. You have been in We're not a gam, oh,

it's so, it's good, I'm so I'm so I'm so incluing I'm so, I'm so include. I'm all,

but I'm just include, it's, there's a, it's a, it's a lot, it's, who are there

for Rencoctr Is it it's it's it's a before 20 that you

have been it's been good for your couple because you have been you're many people

you're about you're at every every every every every

I think that I think that I think that I'm to to basically

to communicate to communicate more to just to be being over

to to be with us, to laugh and we're the famous segment of date to our podcast we're looking

we read the rendezvous and sexual maleheal of our auditors and it's auditors, it's creating discussions,

you're more also on the person with quitted, because you see, these reactions, it's,

it's, it's, it's, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I think we,

not only we're not only only we, communicate at the podcast, has made in sort of we're

know well I think much more and the one of the reason that's the first of the first of

we're doing we're in a time in a car in a car is to say before it's my garrant it's my

agent and I recommend to all the people, I like you like a agent, your chum

or your blonde by course I'm not to be an agent of his chum or his blonde

it's really a position effuvantable because you're at my service and it's the most

important is how I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm what? I just, it's me, what's extraordinary.

It's genial. Tate's not for you. Depute we've done. It's more equal or equities. I don't know. I don't know what the good term. I think it's a lot of it. Yeah.

I'm trying to say, I'm saying, I'm going to annoy to the moment we're at my service. But it's sure that's it's more for the group. It's all the fun. It's been fun of, some, the co-productor,

of the co-animator, that... It's really that, we partage, we produce, we do, we do it all that, we all we're doing

we're saying, we're also often, when there's a lot try to not panic in the same time. You're assurried for the other, but it's that also the

force of a couple yeah, so, we're never fauching at the same time. It's right, we're exactly, we're trying to

connect with a new game, I've never ever ever ever ever ever to try, I'm trying to see, I'm sorry,

I'm trying to we're doing the game conventional that we're the game red and the group, and these questions

that's re-trove in the of the Ruge. So I've never still used around the table. And that's

the level ver standard that I do do you know to you know more than you were still, you're still,

you're still, you're still but before to talk, I'd like that you'd make that, I'm doing,

so I've made, a new, who want to you? You want to start? But, Steve.

But no, go see, go ahead. No, no, you have really determined. So,

Toma, you've been on the table, you want to make five of the level ver.

I'm at the fun. I'm sure doing this. I'm doing a lot of very hard to see.

Thank you and you're doing it and you're in the podcast. Yes, it's fun, the public.

The energy the public is really, it's electric. At what your questions, you can't choose one.

What kind of of the child of you? How react you to the

authority? When I I'm when I look in the mirror, I'm what you

have not received to the parents and you have been and are you to be the

arrival to not to feel you respond to five? I'm going to respond to five. You can respond to five?

Here's a proposal. Here's a question. Here's. I'm a response short and in what you want to do you want to do?

So, so? So, I was, I was very, very, very turbulent and I wanted attention all the

time. I was an child, Pierre Bourgo said I'm said, I'm very, very very

young, I'm a adult very very I'm a really respected by the adult,

even I'm had to have this mix that I'm this marriage, I'm I'm actually really much

to be the question, and I'm asked a question, and I don't know the authority, I like,

the rule, I hate the rules for me. We've lived this morning,

and you had an friend, and you had been, I, I, had been,

there, I, had, no, regular. There's nothing. It's not, it's no way to see

my regs. I'm just like with our I'm sure, the law is lorde. Like this morning our feet

down to the balcony, but you're going to the chard of and I'm not to eat to eat it's a toast. I'm very,

very, but you're not to say, but you're not sure it's very we're in we're in

we're in it's sure that sometimes it can be complicated. It's interesting, it's interesting. When I when I'm

in the mirror I don't I see that my when I look at the mirror I see just that because you're too grand I'm not too

too great because it's not because it's because it's I'm not I'm just the default physical and I'm

doing I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing it's a I'm just I'm saying I'm just this visage

we're going to work on we're trying on what I'm on what's then you're not getting my wife

my mother is my mom and my mom because I'm I'm done to my One time I've said to my

mom is dead. You've got been to have been to replace, you've got to have been able to

see that yeah. Well, yeah, that's that I'm that's a age,

too, just for the When I did that, when I'm doing that my dad at 13,

that's that's the period where I tried to when I did you do you're

to get to not to get to the heart after after every show

to show of the people are on the every one we share

of the same, when it's it's not, it's not, or even when it's not it's not quite, oh, but you see, I've passed my new idea. Oh, we know, I know very few of stand-up who's out of sight in saying, I'm exceptional, wow.

I'm, I'd like, I'm interested. What's what you know, not received, to be there not received? A man, it's really cool. Your mother, she's decided. She had four years. She had had been to the sin, but then it's the cancer of the zoo.

So, it's a time of the 3, 4, and it's a cancer that was a funerouser for example, it's a cancer that was very rapid. So the only Sovere that I have My mother It's the It's the same

Of her It's the souvenirs of her It's the same Of those The same The other My mother I'm wearing

My mother, I'm Very Drakue Very, Very, very Fierty to my part And so, yeah I'm not

A mare Concretement And even My Pair, Yes, I've few little Mair But at

after the age of 12 years, there's not really There's not There's There's There's

Many Women of My Pern My Pern My monoparental masculine. And is, you have,

it's the first, no, is it the first of, so you're unique, an infant unique, so you're that's not,

you know, that's why you're doing the role, you're the impression that you've played more

than the time, that's a minute, it's a time, it's a fact, it has been in a sort of

that I'm sure that I'm an empathy and and of my father, and especially for his role to be able

to be able to a two, I feel completely fool and difficult, and anxiogeny, and

mellangeant, the fact of all the way it was it was very my father and my mother to cope a little

more the time of the day and then he'd do you do it do do everything, and he's a old old

in 1952 he had be able to progressist he didn't he'd not too how to

and why why you're you're an impression that's you're more than your

because my father my dad so same extremely cruable to make my

my mom sometimes it's not all the time logic. My father has always always thought. She's never offered to the young girl,

a man, it's my fault, it's my fault, so I'm going to try to condense. And what your father

has been the part of the man? No, my father is very, very,

very masculine. Well, how do, how, we're saying, but maybe maybe I'm more,

maybe I'm more more than because my father had just something that's very,

very, I'd I'd say, it's it would have been he said, he'd

never me regard of a mare. The regard of a mare, a matter, I mean, I mean, you know,

I mean, what you do, your mind, you know, you'll be to be able, you'll be the regard

of a man, the regard of an admirative of a man, a man, a man is, prove me your love,

you know, to be you know, I'm to be to be, because what you be, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's more profound, so often, sometimes, it's,

it's, it's, So I think that's that that's what I've Mocked the regard of a of a man

of a time of a lot of Is it Is there Is there there? Yes,

There's No, no No one of my family But I had granded in

Montreal in a little So that There was Many, I've got of

Chauhance I'm I'm The mayor of my Matthew Hartman That, she's

she's she She's she She's she she was very Dous

with me I've got the chance the mayor of my guys were very, very, very, very,

very, very dull with me. And your rapport with the family, is that you think that's, it's a

big, I remember, I remember, it's in the beginning, I was with a female with a

intimate, and she she had me she made, she made, I'm so, I'm so, to make a

and I'm trying, to make, she said, I'm trying, she's, she's never access to that, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's she was she maquished the matins,

she made her the morning to the rube and I'm done a bit of a bigot and I'm a mark

because it's a 90 I have a mark of a bigu on the so I'm so I'm

so yeah that's a very much very much too I'm really in the first

in the first time in the first time in the time you you're you're in

you're in you're and you say that you're saying it's different and it's

many because it's because it's that we're affectue we're and it's and it's

really marked to know that that I'm that you serve far when we when we did you

it's like that you did it it was doing it was good yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah is that you think that's not that's not quite the same

because the time the yeah like you like it's like far far far

possible because for some yeah It's possible. It's possible. But for a guy who's a

manned of security I'm doing a lot of a lot of a lot but you're all the time

you're all a fight or flight there's we're always it's all that it's that's so of danger

constant you're never you're never that's just it's relax, he's being

yeah yeah he's posed you're you're anxious you're I'm I'm sure

I'm you're convinced you're you're doing you do you're just the same That's why I'm so that I'm a

I'm doing auteur humoristic. I'm saying, I'm doing bad to ban, you're really bad at least this raccoon and I'm trying to and I'm trying to do you know,

for the more the more people who do they're doing the scenario, but cool, it's create some of piffurkey. And to have an infant,

is that, it's not that it's not that it's not that it's not that it's like therapeutic at some to have a

when I'm when I've seen my wife, I have never been people, of the people more people than my

I've been able to bebe a bit of my future I've been done my fee, I've said oh, it's the sole thing that I'm like that's the

security, it's true I'm sure that's always in my employees, that's not that it's not that's not a bad

affair and it will be a thing, and it's when I'm abandoned. When I that's all right, that I'm going to be manual,

that I, I can't, I remember, I remember, I just, I've always to keep my my mind,

I said, I said, I said, I said, ah, that's it's a apace. Now,

you're talking to be able to abandon. Yeah. So, let's in your relations before

Stephanie, is that you have been to say, you know, my Pissy, me said, I'm

saying, I've seen a few years years, and I'm said, she, she,

she, I'm saying, no, no, no, madam, I'm not the pardon, I'm,

I'm just the proof, I'll let's let's not you'll just let's say hey I'll see I don't know I'm going to

explain my Psy is that the end up my Psy I like my Psy I like I'm very much you're saying you're going to you're going to

me detest and it but yes I have a grand great great great great fear of abandon enormous enormous

I think all the people will be abandoned so this time in either I'm either I'm either they're

saying the thing either they're they're just disappear or I'm I'm a gross fear of

that it's just it I mean of the little infancy, I imagine. And you're like, like,

I mean, like I'm the part of abandon, but who, I mean, I mean, who is the situation,

in a lot of, in a relation, who's said, don't the people, they're going to be mime for the

eternity for who is not a lot of because it's a little bit to quit before the whole,

all the time I get my blonde, I'm very regret not. Okay, you don't know, regret not. It's a good

thing, it's a good But, say, me, at four when your mother is dead, is it you comprehend that it was definitive?

Yes. Yes, I mean, I knew. Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm sorry you said,

that's a time, you know, that's a sure, there's a four years, to say,

I'm a man and I understand that's definitive, so you can think that all the whole

can't be partire also? Yes, you know, it's a source of insecurity.

I remember, I've I've been five I'm playing baseball with my baseball,

on we're I'd say the ball on the rocks on vacation it was in the winter and he's he's gone

and he's going to get to get to get to get his blonde and when I'm at the time I'm

on the point I'm thinking that my name is gone to make mom and if you're if I'm gonna probably

very very rapidly and my and my father also have put yeah he said ah I

have done he's he got he got to one of the after he was he said he was

he might be at the after the when I was when I was 12, 13 years, he said it's a man, but

you know, it's a fall of the time, he said, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to be sure,

and he's not in a bad relationship with your father? It's not the days, it's not the day but it's not

the day, but it's more more. What's he changes with the time? Ah, I'm really

amolie, and also, when your real real real your father, it's one of your existence the best

in the unnue in the world. I'm that, am my my my father

never ever like a crime against me like a some of the some of the questions of questions of

you know, you're living with an um about 15 years of the there's a time there's

there's like to give the grace he accorded to the love he accorded do the time,

he accorded to the it's a good more more than to detest

because what's that's that's that the love there's there's

there's you have you have you have you accord you detested, it's it's just, when you detest

you'd say a little bit more, in the, in the an end, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the stress that's caused. I imagine.

You know, the stress that caused. So, it's you, that's got to be ramoled, it's not your that's changed. It's you

that's going to him, plus he, back you, more, my father, had always been there, so,

he had always been there, always been there, never brezzili, he's never brezz,

it's always they're still it's always it's going to we're more we're more we're more that's

better than we're that's that's, he's, he's always always to be always a little bit of

the blake to, you know, if you were in prison, I'm, you know, I'm, I was,

I'd go, I'm, I'm, like, I'm, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna,

tell, that's, you're in prison, like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, sometimes, some, yeah, some, I'm, But I'm not sure

I'm going to To be able to Do you know Do you know Yeah, but Yeah, Yeah, Yeah,

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, It's, It's no, It's not Yeah, I'm always Yeah,

I'm always So, yeah, So, yeah, I've chosen With my And with other people

Also, it's more Yeah, it's more more noon of my part, I think the hand,

it's a It's a lot, you can be a lot, you can gain with the

I think that the a pain is an emotion pure and it's an emotion the revolutions are made with the pain. Some of the when you start

from a relation you don't know when you're not a lot of anger, it can be an excellent motor. If you just to hear your

father, you're not the time to air an government, you have not the time to hire your patron, you don't have not the time to hire someone who

has got to hear someone who's also, and also, if you're habitual to have a to have an impact on the other relations. And sometimes

I realize it, It's not some person like... Sometimes I sometimes I'm there's a because he

me remember my my father. But it's unjust that I'm that you're too much about

because because they're very physical or the same type of language that's really really bad it's not

so it's not quite. Because you think that your daughter you've had convinced convinced

convicture first to be being paid it's it's tough you're just you're using

the guy you said oh yeah when I'm to be being able to be It's very easy.

Not time. Not time. And then, a lot of what it's that we're extremely extremely banal

and cliché or the things banal and there are a fond of virity. The

love of an child, and the love that you have for an child, and the

love that that has for you is immense, the infant, the infant that,

it's that, that, that has done so much that does that do

live this love this love that in all your relations. Not only with the other people,

but with the coffee, you want to like, you know, I'm going to my wife, so I'm going to

this love with my father, more than this relationship conflictual. I'm sure that will

talk about to the people, to say, to be a part of the when you know, when you're,

it's a parent, it's not banal, you can't you can't you can't, you can, you can,

uh, by saying, message to people, you can tace, if your father or your mother, you've

been extremely mal. You can't but you can't but you can't but you're always to stay in your

mind. You can't. You can't, it's that the difference is that you have just one. And there's

there's events where you have done to do you get back let's get let's see one of the

thing she was a very much of my man and she said well you you know

that's you know that is better for the for real one of one of

me and it's what it is what is what is what is the communication

we're at a more, but sometimes the distance. There's a man it's a man he's also maybe past the more

to be more of time and it's right when we're when we're when we're doing the things we have to have been

we're not we're we're going to we're more more polite so we're we're more we're

very rough one over the other we're all we're we've made some there's

some black aggressive some some some advantage It's a lot of the advantage. The advantage is that sometimes it's a bit

more rough. But now, today we're we're doing more more more than you know, so much more

more than it has been more precious. You're right? But no, but you have no, but there's not

the solution for all the world. You know, what's what you want, what's what you want, what you know,

what's that you know, and I'm, especially when it's in the family, it's something that

you'll come, because you can't be able to completely, you know, you know, you're you know, and there's for who's to get, you know, and there are for who's, just, it's simple. It's fine, and at a certain moments, okay, we're, but

the relation is not rompue. You're also, you know, sometimes it's a little mince, but, yeah, Stephanie, it's at your tour, demand, to choose five. I love, I, I'll have braced, but it's

that, they're more, they're more, they're, they're more, they're more, and, and We've got a new table this year, very glissant. At the beginning, at least, I'd go ahead. So, that's your five cards. I'll just, but I'll just go to read. So, you're going to choose one also.

In what the maternity has tautil change? What role you've used your friends in your life? Of what have you per? What is your

poor, default? And what was the person, which person was the most significant in your life? You can't try to trompe, you're not trying to You can't. So,

I'm going to choose to have one, I'm going to follow the reginal I'm, I'm going to choose, okay, I'm

on chosier one, well, one who's I'll bring the poor of default. Because, you know,

I'm see, it's platt, I adore my am you, my matriety, I think, I've got

time changed, but you know, I'm trying to say, well, I'm just the person significant,

The most significantative in my life, it's been my mentor in scene of theater. No, I'm going to say that. Oh, yeah? But it's beautiful, so. Okay. My worst is that I'm fage, but after that.

But it's beautiful. But your relationship with your life, it's really good. I was like, like, I said at Tom, I was like, I think I thought, I thought a little bit

to, you know, and I was like, I'm a person of good humor, you know, all, you know, all the time, until you're trying to get in crisis. Is that you'd

do you'd dishock very? No. moment. I'm a moment, but after my moment I'm going more. But I'm

doing so often? It's a time often, it's going to be able to sometimes. We're going to why it's, I'm like,

I'm like, you know, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I'm getting the control on the total, huh?

No, but no, it's so. It's so, you know, focus on what we're doing but it

to be able to be able to be able to be able to say, it's to change it's not very show.

We're be brought me. Yeah, the person the most significantive in my life, is, at least, at start a theater. I've had a parkour schooler where I was

very performant, you know, primary, secondaire, after that, Segep, I'm in science nature because that's what I did have,

because I had the notes for entering in science nature. So, we had a lot, what's the what you have to

do you feel that at the school, there's a chemo there a chemo, you know a to become a medician or you do you doveen or you know.

No, it's pretty much the gaspire. Exactly. You know, it's so, you know, these famous

schools where they say, you're the name of the society you you have to, well. And then finally, it's at the

CJP that I've got to for me, because to me, it's easy. You know, I had never had been

to find my devour. My mother says sometimes that she has sat with me when I've started

the first for the work, like she was with my friend before me, my grandfrey, and she sat sit at

at the time, and I've got to go, and I've got to have. And I'm like, I came to offer at the door. I'm not going to have. I'm going to have to be. You've got to let's have. I've never asked.

I've never demanded. And, and, you know, super performant, but also a little last minute, a bit procrastination, because it was easy for me at school.

I could marsow the day and create my dissertation of five, six pages, and then, and there was, and I was able to surfy there's just as to

when I'm in science nature and that calculus differential and calculate you have to do you have to dovour, you can't just sort of

not your no, it's not, it's not, we're not, you're not, you're going to work, and your labo

to be present and you have to do it's like you have to do, so, so, I've made that maybe that I can't

maybe maybe surfed on my knowledge and my instinct and my logic. And after that, I'm just

I satiased in my course, just, of calculus differential, and we'd do a page of calculus to get to be

to get to and I'm going, I'm going, hey, it's too platt? Like, we're all so

far, during all the course for resolve an equation that we're all right, I'm just

to get to like, I'm, maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe maybe I'm that's that

that's that that's what that's that that's, it's a pose, I'm going to see I don't know, I'm sorry, the API, or in the case, the Orienteur, brief,

uh, do CCEP, I've made, I want to change the program, I'm, you know, I see, I, you know, I'd, you know, too, change, and then, I've seen a group of theater, I, I mean, I mean, well, I'm, well, I'm, so, I, insquite,

all, inscriptions for the troupe of theater, which is an activity parascolar, and, after that, I've also changed to program, I'm inscribed in science human, because there were, there were, also, of cinema, my CJP, and

but I was, oh, I was, my God, who I'm doing, who I'm doing to bring the part of the person, I'm doing

to learn the human before to talk about I'm saying, I'm going to make sure I'm in a science human,

society, I'm able to learn to the country, the social, and, well, I've been

to learn to learn on the human. So, and, and, and,

I've passed the audition for the troupe of the doctor in sign, who's changed my life, that I think

that's the first person that I I thought that I saw it. It was the first time

that I was not only my colleagues to the other but really a person that I'd that I shaned

that I fitte with, at the view of the view of the vision of the art on how we'd

how we approached the characters I'm I'm trying for the first at my

place I'm a a partonance yes it has changed it's changed my life I'm

oh, it's that to be accepted, you know, like I've always, you know, I've done

my way, and I was going to be and I was, and I was, I was never really,

I'm really to that, I'm not really, to that's it's a pretty, it's a

very, yeah, and it's all the , yeah, yeah, and then, and then,

yeah, that it's, so, it's like, So, I have to get the time that I'm to get

to get to get to the energy develop my relations social in this universe that. You know how it's

a question. A passion. Oh, yeah, no, but it's because a passion, you know,

textually, you're going to invest in in time, in socialized, you know, you're not, you're not,

you're really to say, and it's really, well, it's just really, it's just really

over, wow, and it It's also, you know, it's also, also, you know, we're at least, you know, we're, you know, we're trying a few, you know, to do, you know, we're, essentially, a distance plus, by rapport to our parents, also, you know,

just to be more than at the house, having an activity parascolar, which, so, like, oh, my God, I'm sure, okay, I can't do this decision, I'm doing, I'm doing, without, perform at the school, and saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm just, it's beautiful,

it's legitimate, I'm, like, in plus, that it's not grave, there were, you know, there was, There was, just, you know, there was not, there were not, there was a certificate, there was a

there's a major, in a row. No, it was really just a gang of, the, of the, guy,

chappoted, so, by, by, , and, were just to do it, and it was

exprimed at a travel art, you, you've discovered Michelle Tremblay, I've discovered Clements De Rochie,

you know, to be, to be, to the culture, and I'm, okay, it's so, finally,

I'm, to respond to the famous question when when you're demanded, but you're so much, you're telling you want to do? And then you're all the time? And then, you're all right?

Well, I was like, okay, there I was, like, being comediened, like, they said all the time to call, people,

or to be able to and then it's like impossible, and there's all the time there's all the time, there's all there's four that they're

and the rest, he mons, he's all over to eat of pizza, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not,

I'm not living to do that, but in when I'm talking, me being in scene, I've discovered that there plenty of other mity around

in the middle of in fact, that I know that I'm in it's not great, it's not true, I'm going to be in other time that that's what you

need. So it's a really a sense, a sense to my and to have, like, okay, I've found my universe, I'm going to

be it, I'm still very, very, very, very proche to him, and he he's, he looks what I'm doing, and he makes on my addiction, and it's all the time

pleasure. He is still there for me... But you know, I'm encouraged a boole more more than they're trying. But you know, they're going to be at the case of that.

You know, to find something in which they are good. You know, it's hard to find that because there you're going to

at the time. In fact, you, you've decided to go, without saying that you're going to have to be that.

It's like finally I partying with something that I'm resound. Yeah, and I think,

I think, I think, I I've reached to do, I've reached to these changes when I I felt

that I could think I'm talking to and then it's to know that there's not there's not I'm going to

make my decisions. I'm going to take a idea with the AP all and change the program

all and all that is correct. I don't have to do that before to change the program before to make

to sign in theater, I'm making my text all, I repeated because I

think I had been I was I think I had been without that person me regard and that I

don't have a person. And you know that you know that you're really not your sense

nature? Well, I guess, I'm a passion for the science, you know, I'm like,

when Zue will come to see, when it's to work, it's correct, I'm an occupy,

you know, if there's a need to so, so, so, so, so, I'm,

so, I'm, and, just sometimes, in the way, we're, we're confronted to,

and, we're not let's, let's come, And I was like, I could continue to have a passion for the science and an interest. But not to be a scientific. But not that's my studies and my milieu of work. So, yeah, you know, the life is long, the life is grand.

We can do plenty of things. But I'm like, okay, yes, I'm going to evolve. I can evolve in this milieu. Is that you've wanted, or so, in this sphere that? I mean, I remember a moment of day, we had made a festival of theater amateur, and there had been a critic. and there had a critic

of the piece that was there's a person she had under certain performance

of certain colleagues and certain subperformance of other colleagues I thought that's rough for some for the

women but I have just, she, to me mention it of me and then she was like

oh my she she, she, she, she's pleurried and then I

went to and then I'm never didn't come on and then I said, whoa,

minute that it's like It was like it was, I'm assuming I'm trying to to mind,

but all the thing, I'm, it's a way, I'm going to do you and at every time that's the moment present

was deruilet, I'm like, it's a grave, it's what you see that, it's a great finality,

it's so that, she has been not even not made, I'm just, I'm just like, I'm saying,

I'm just like, relax, too, then after that, then I'm sorry, oh my, but it's not made,

it's not made, for me, the milieu, to be, let's be be comedienes or be an animatrice because I'm being a lot of

stuff, I was quite I'm trying to be in the troupe to theater and I'm like, it's maybe it's probably

not for me if I'm it's like, it's like, it's also remit in perspective to say, I'll be

something something around to, the way, to be in the light, to this critique that?

Of this this, of this, I'm going to say, oh, la, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not the , Again, in in the case. So, yeah,

for accept the regard also, I mean, I'd make, you know, I'd like many to do you, it's like, all right,

and then I'm going to be back and say, ah, you know, I've really like that, it's all the fun,

what you've been doing, I'm all right, I'm all right, you know, I'd like, that I'd like, I'd like,

I'd like, I'd like, for me, the, anime a show to my Cep, it's the same that's the same

that's the same, I'm, I'm just, for me. I like, and we'd say, and we're doing that.

I think of the people who were all the accessory, oh, yeah, you're like, you're like, you're doing, you know, it's that,

the rapport to be viewed in this context that, it was really complicated for me. And, really complicated. It's great

to him. Oh, so, it's great to him, it's great to him, I think,

because it's he's he who's been in the project that we did that we do, his love, the confidence

that's, you know, he had more confidence in me, than I had confidence in me, he made the force, then after that I was like, if he's me true, it's an an

thing, it would be one. There are at least he's been a good. Ironically, the relationship, I'm changing, I'm just the agent,

and you're the talent. Yeah, yeah, really. Yeah, really. And what's that change in a life

to appartone to a group? It's, it's, it It does a force, it does a perspective on all the rest,

it does, yeah, we'd say that the life is more dous. The life is more douse, because,

no, it's just that's going to be able to to get to be there for you, there's a

point, there's people who are there's even to talk that they can't, it's it's really

it's really so, you know, I've got the same amy than we

have been before we have been I'm still some of the time of this time, it's sure

that we're seeing that it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you're still comedian?

You're still still, I, I'm doing the last year, but it's, I'd say, a, I'm

a, I'm a realisattar, and, in fact, it's a, because he'd much the podcast and he said,

ah, I'm a little role, but he said, when I did, when I've construed the role, I wanted to call it, your energy, and then what to do,

well, you know, come to play. Have you ever seen it? I've been really to be really for me to be on a plateau of TV, because, you know, the podcast, we're

a person in a carl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, who are the people and that, yeah, that's, you know, for a scene of some of a few seconds, I've passed

all the day of six hours there, so I'm, I'm like, oh, wow, it's an other an other universe, but yeah,

I like I love I adore that I'm going to play and I'm sure you're an artistise of the scene

I'm sorry I'm I'm in my chair you're just because I'm making a char to chant

it's extraordinary sound you well by the you know there's there my

my chow in my but you have a man you're you know it's right

with my with my with my with my with my with my family when you know

when you're often you sometimes we the repetetet meton I see It's not more, to plan,

after the class to six to eight. We'd finish all the time at 10 and a minute, 10 and 1, and I think and the time,

the law just to change that we could be fuming in the in the way, we're in front of a scene, we're in

the theater of the Cegeep, we're botchate, you know, like the, you know, the, basically,

and after that, I was, I was one of the only that was the car, because I'm with Lava,

so, so, so, We were all the whole and we we'd say, I'm gonna

all right, I'm gonna'clock. We're not a micro that you're on over We're gonna be down the floor. In the States,

there were Rachel Gretel There was Rachel who's been a comedian Yeah, well, yeah, there was Kevin Hull also who had made the song

and he made the music on our shows but plenty of people who are not necessarily who've been become a comedian but who

have opened in the animation for an You have to have been to your personality to explode also?

100% Because I think we'd feel like I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying,

I'm saying, for who you to say, for who you're to say, you know, like, you know,

you're like, you know, you're saying, that, yeah, yeah, and it's, and it's,

and it's, it's, then, then, it's like, no, go see, I,

go, don't, in the micro, far, go, let's, you're able to the fact,

the, let's, let's, I, in your cup, because you've you've got validated there in

there's yeah, the genese of a couple over, is that I've had a podcast and it's a

pandemic. So, we're doing, we're doing podcasts, it's the podcast, it's the podcast

I mean a lot of the time and the things that were in the two times, it's

two times, it's two times, it's a trio. I said to what's a two, and I'm in a lot when you

there's a time when you're a family in the show, it's comic when a it's comic when

it's he'd say, Steph, it's a project where we're three, and it's a friend, and it's a friend who's the friend the most droll that I know. And it's made me make more than the project is part of mine. You've parted at two, with the invitee of three. Exactly, I, I understand.

And also, I caressed, before, when I met with a stephen, I had thought of a sitcom, it's the story of a humorist with an agent more than he was a bit of the pandemic, and it was arrived at a bit of it, and it was irapeutic, and to create a setcom, the pitcher, attend the phone, and to it's so complicated.

So I'm going to say, oh, but it's a general of the sitcom it's a with Steph and it's,

we're going to transposed in the podcast and effectively the first the first invite that we have used,

it's Michel Greeney who's also a partner with which I'm working at the point.

But at the time I'm exactly, and at the time I'm on the show you yeah, so yeah

it's so it's really that, it's really a group of general with you. Is it

ready to to start to We'll have to start. The new level couple. Oh, yes. We're going to go down the yellow. So, that's

never happened what I'm going to no, no, they're not of rose? Well, they're not there. Oh, that's great.

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, if you're doing your go to do you make sure, yeah, we're doing. Completely,

completely. Completely. Probably, probably that I have a prejudice in saying, they're not no longer

to be sure. I'm not going to the new there's special, is that you're going to

me don't five questions, but you will choose the question ensemble. Okay. That's something, I'll have never done again,

when we've chosen the same, but let's see, push the card. Five. Oh, yeah, five. One, two,

three, four, five. Perfect. There's just that. What's that's the new yeary not in your

relationship? What is the most best that your or amoree or amoe is posed

over to what you have done and who you're in Fierre because you're

going to respond separately from? Depute that you have you have you have you

to work to work? What is your your more moment of couple? So, you're going to

we'll listen, but we're going to the two, you do the two want to I'm going to get a

well, well, you know, it's sure that's not long, but it's all that

all we do you do not professionally. Ah, ha! You want to that?

No, no, but it's so, I'd say, I'd that, I'd say,

I don't know. You're still too too fast. No, no. You know, I'm like, you know, what's that's not?

I don't know. I'm going to. I'm going to. Okay. Perfect. Okay. Okay. So,

what's the character have you to have you to be able? No, because you're in course,

on what type character character has you have you to go on first? Go ahead. Go to,

let's, let's the dynamic of cup at the right? Parre. Not,

the word? Paray. But we have to play that who's what? Paray? Not right? Not right.

Okay. Paray or not to communicate docement, to not communicate in a way, or fashy

or it, yeah, I mean, how it's, how you communicate? Well,

I mean, I'd just not, so, so, so, to do it for me,

it's new for me. Because, you do your affairs. I'm in your

stuff, I'm in my life, I'm in my life, and when I I, I,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was like, you know, I'd, you know, I'd find my

and I'm doing, I don't know anything. But, now, a minute, we live in society, we live with these colleagues, we live with with these amoreau. You know, I'm just, I mean, in my first relation of couple, I'd say, not a lot of things. You know, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd say, not grand something.

You'd invests at this level that? Or it's not something that was easy for you to communicate? really not easy, and I had all the time fear that the

result of it's not the reject or to not respect what I'm to be, so I prefer

I'd say, but at a moment of a moment of when you're not, especially when

it's not constructive but I don't but I see, I remember the first time

that I had with Toma I'm like hey, I can say,

what I think and I'm and I'm who I'm who I'm vulnerable and I'm imperfect

and not only only he'll he'll he's like it's the first time that's the yeah

yeah I'm just I'm just to be to be sure I'm I'm not I'm really

I'm really yeah yeah his apartment was it's disgusting but for it's just to

but you yeah yeah oh yeah yeah There was a word. There was a serviette. She was trued, and she was beige, but I think that

their color original, it was blind. We know, that's what you've judged in entering? I've said, well, it's a guy that, of all he is all, you know, I'm just so. I'm sorry.

It's not made fear. It's not fair because that's, there's not the blonde, he. It's what I'm, I'm, I mean, I said, the message,

it's done, you know, as much, you're t'rtle, it's, it's chate, have some blareable, have to be able, and be able to be to make sense well,

it has no the price for the rest and how you're talking about and you're

in a time? I'm I'm sure I'm really, but totally

really, and it audacue, and there an audacee and there was, an odace, I'm,

he did all these affairs and I think it totally really, I'm really,

I'm thought that I'm still, it's still, for me, it's a part of

even if some sometimes I'm like, Because, because sometimes it would

have to be sure, yeah, 100% you know, 100% you know, you know,

it's a I'm attired but totally, and really like I always, I'm still,

well, maybe, not the not the but I say, but I'm said,

it's a privilege for me to work with him, it's a privilege for me

to pass my life with me, I'm to be too, you know,

your three dimension, you can you can't you can't that there's like an dimension

that we're not going to make a point of the part of the because you know, because you know

if you're not a lot of you know, maybe you know, maybe you're maybe you're doing, and there you feel at-aise

and it's like it's like we when it's when we're so we're, I'm in I'm in the previous

relation, an image that I'm I said sometimes, you know, when you're with someone

that you're sometimes you make your trip on the table and I have the impression that the So it's the only, when I met my trips at the table, he verge in

with a cutoff. He, I feel like he'll be in front of the best of the best. It's the first time I was like that. But it's like, like, you could make sure your pet peeve that's like you can't, your life, your conviction, who's tu-est, with the point feb and far, you know? So, that's amelioring your communication because you'd You'd feel like

to talk exactly. Exactly. After, after, after, I can it's a

bad at the bad at being in a , to be able to say, oh, no, no, no, that's the

that's the nature in the same time. It's that, but, you know,

sometimes it's a, I think, it's I've been to, I've been to, I've got

the supap all the explode, but, you know, it's, how many time

you're in so, nine, November? November, yeah. When you're doing that, is what you

like to say, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm just mentioning, I'm very touched, but I'm sure, but I'm trying to

see that the first time, you know, to say, to say, to say, I'm like,

to say, you're open, to be open to the communication, it's, it's, it's, , it's,

it's, I don't have not, the cry after, Pahl, call-Lis, I imagine, I'm gonna

have you, but did you, but did you, that, that had, this capacity to listen that?

I think I'm a I'm a role. In time, when I'm when I'm writing with my

humoristic, I think I'm think my force, I'm trying to be to be able to talk to make, to make them. And you're

to do you, I'm doing, to do you, I think my talent, it's when you know, you go to

go to be in the zones that you go to normally. I think for that's why the people people are,

they're saying, they're saying, they're saying they're doing, they're they're allais, yeah, it's a

that's that's that's to create this zone of confidence that you

know, that you're that's you're quite in the relationship. I'm just

I'm just, I'm just, I'm sure, to do it and you know, a little

like when I talked about, when I found, I'm trying, I'm, and I'm and I'm

recognized, I'm, in me, in me, this sentiment to, I'm never,

I'm never sent me validated like that, aimed, it's really just, aim,

legitimate, legitimate, I'm going to I didn't I'm going to communicate, to be able to communicate, because this

relationship, absolutely. So, there's a lot of but there's sometimes I think that's true. Is it like that

because sometimes we have said, because of the we've seen, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm just that

we're talking, but I think we didn't know that we're not in profounder all the time. You know,

in the sense that we had always souped at table, in family, not of television,

we jazes, but I'm but I'm not but I'm not I'm not I'm not analyzing but I think just that maybe

sometimes we're not in profounder in the in saying in the in the in the case it's maybe my sentiment

I'm like I'm my second infant I'm often the sometimes she's I'm the first female also in my family

in the sense where my mom has not of frar and sir my father has just there brother. Before me, he's

my cousin, he's a friend, I'm the first she's the first she's a little bit of a little bit of artistic

so I'm not maybe a little flower that we know how to but I'm but I think we've been we've been

much communicate by the humor that's that's the sense of the humor that I appreciate the sense of the time of party and that

the gross joke out and that there's some a verity sort of certain blag so I'm that I'm

that I'm cap't that I'm a sense of the humor that's to serve to serve as to say

to say to say to say to to do something to do something yeah yeah yeah

and you know often we know we're able to give up we're able to me put up we're able

to do what we can't be a superbe way of address some sometimes horrible so

So I adore. And I liked also I liked also I'd like also often I'd like to hear of my father, I'd

ever hear of my and I'm also when I was the little little bit of the little bit of and that I'd sorted a killer

that that made laugh all the world and I'm like yesor and you'd have to have

a public yeah also yes yes if you respond to this question that Thomas

on what there's true of character to have worked to have been in couple Before all, I want to respond

What's what's the real with Steph, is that at least I'm trying to talk about me to talk about me. I've learned with that's the

things that I'm going to get to me. And I'm trying to because you're because of it. You know, I've learned,

I've got to be a word that when I'm going to be back to my mom and I'm

Mourer and I'm sorry that I'm abouted the so I'm too about it. But you, in the phone

it's definitely too, far possible. Far possible. When you're my mire is something.

Yeah. Yeah, it's like that I've developed my sense of the humor. It's like, I'm going to because I'm saying,

I'm saying, I'm going to it's a very that's what I'm that way, you know, they're going to say, they're saying,

they're doing, they're doing this, so I'm not to see, I think I'm that's the word. I think that's that.

The thing character that I think I've developed in my relation with Steph, is that stuff, is that stuff, I'm having

and Steph me has reassured and I'm before Steph, I'd always all the time, that the people had all depated

or me abandoning, so I'd provoke the abandon and I was probably, and I was trying to have you made my attitude I did you have done to say, if you're not,

it's normal, you don't know, because that I'm doing, so I'm in the provocation. I'm sure that part of my amy, it's people,

it's people that, they're that, who accepted that, but often I'd be very, very, very, very, very,

very, very, very aggressive, and I'm after, but I'm more, I accept that the people can't make me

and I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm they'll never won't not. I just when I jane in a few I'm

he's like, he has been he's I'm in, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, that's what I'm

doing after I'm in my life. You know, you've changed your like your predisposition. Yeah.

But, you say that, but it's true, because even even again, you know, you're going to

get Zoe at the school, the country is all right, we're at at the carty, you're

in the time, you're in and come, and he He thinks all the time that I'm

partied. There's all the reflex that, let's on, he's part five minutes, it's a

time, he comes to and then, when I'm in when I'm going to, I'm in the room, I'm in

there, I'm in a little and he will be in and he like, I'm,

I'm in, I'm in, you know, I'm going to see, I'm going to make a mask around,

I'm trying to me make some to be I'm in the same, I'm not part, I'm not

party, but there's I'm also, I feel in his tone hello, I'm there again and that's

something that's that's a abandon of her, yeah, yeah, by all the everyone,

every time every one of every time me text, it's to me to say, we're saying, we're gonna

be able to be, there's a there's something there's a dramatic there, oh, yeah, oh, yeah,

oh, yeah, and I'm, and I'm, oh, yeah, and I'm, and I'm, But it's because, you know,

my trait of character to try of character to work, it's just to communicate and to communicate, maybe more in the doceau

but some of it's not, because it's a time, because it's not used to you're not to communicate

in a douceur. It's like not. No, I'm not. Your name, they're just to be present,

and it's like that, so you're not, so when we know, when we're doing when we're off,

that you're that you're not, you're trying. You're reacting. You're reacting. You're just, the same way,

you'll listen, you you're seeing the doceau it's like it's like it's like I'm trying to what's the

what's what's what what's the that's what it's that my fear it's that's I'm a

I'm a weird I think if you're if you're I'm used to if you're when we're

going to be too be too when you're because it's it's a man

that's it's all possible you're that's true you're that may the mayor represents

for there was there was there docile there's a talking to you're talking to

regard, the espest of goodveillance, to bring the same, it's all the name that's the

matter, it's to be the so far as you know, so it's related to the abandon. There's there, there

there's a question, there's a nine years, you're in a month, you're in that's

it has been to be disminue but it's but it's and it's and it's when it's

every year? Every every year every Every morning. Every day, it's a lot. It's always a lot of, but

I remember my Psy a thing, a thing, I thought, I thought it, I thought it's a problem, it's a thing, it's

all over the fear, and my Psym had, well, I said, yeah, I'm saying, well, I'm saying, to absorb,

these emotions. Now, at this moment, you're cut into your emotions. You're not, not bad,

not bad, there's not to accept, you, you're to accept, you're to be, and live with this anxiety,

there, sometimes you're not, you're not abandoning, live with this abandon that.

So I accept a lot so I accept more more I'm doing that. I think I'm normally, what I'd

have said, I'd have abandoned it, I'd have done, because she'd because there's because of there's a

fear of a part to get to get something, the thing to be able to get to get, it,

I'd be able to the shock, the perth, it's me that's going to be able to see, I'm going,

droll. So, I think, because you're with Steve, I accept plus. You know,

There's a few things I've done to talk to with your but the dewee of an child when you're

four years is a do you know is a good not because there's a thing that's

a good one of the one of the when we're little it's a cool like to my

wife my wife the parents are well yeah I'm yeah

yeah yeah it's difficult to be my my mother but very very

very much I've been to my my dad and I'm in that's

it's has exploded the my mother at seven in no part. And then

the psychotic who have made and they're there's a marriage and they're he's like he's he's

he's able to live this pen that at seven and there a guy that you know what you say that you're a

philosopher that's a story you know, you know, you know, you're the film,

it's an story, very sad, I'm a very sad, I'm a story, I'm the story in

Italy, fascist, it's two Jewish, it's a family Jewish that's people are

in a concentration. And the father, he's with his own little guyson, and he has to be a camp of concentration, he says not that's a camp of concentration, he said that it's a game. He said that the bus, it's to be able to see

the soldiers, and all that's a end, and that's a lot of he will gain a tank. And at the end the film, the father meur, the little guyson survived, he, he runs in a tank, it's very, very beautiful, and you realize that his father, he has cached

the horror of the war. He says, that way he said, this film, that, the The end would be more emuvent. It's the punch of the end. The point of the little guy said, oh, I, I, I know, I'd say, but I'd say,

I'd say, but in the front, the little guy did all that. Because he'd say, it's a lot of people who do they do with, and they do see what you're doing? So, you're probably. I'm convinced.

And, and, I've, I've got to be a pain, and I think, I think, it's a line of love, and it's beautiful, there's, you know, he has wanted me protect, and I've got to be able to protect

and that's I think, there's a There's a There's a There's a time, you know, there's a

sort of a lot of a mother, the more, the when you know when you know to do you

will never never do you know, you will be silencier, you will be silencier, you know, I'm not

you've got not used that. You know, you've got not used that, but you know, in the family, but you

see, you know, the parents part of, there's sometimes, there's been there's still there who are

going to have been to have to to have to live that, you know, it's an conscious,

but it and you're to be to get to do you, what's the thing? I'm sure,

I'm when I'm remember, it's a person, and I think I'm don't know if you don't know,

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I'm saying, madam, you're like, you're too, you're still,

we're , you're doing at what, you know, I don't know, I don't know at the frequency I don't know,

I don't know every time, I've been three months, three months, it's not no. I'm not.

You're not not an alcoholic. And then we're doing it's a quite a alcoholism. And I realized

that it was, the mother my mom would make really much fear. The abandon was enormously

fear. I've also a thing that I've been a thing that I think, it's always a procrastination.

It's very procrastinous and there I don't I'll be not, I'd probably have three

projects abdomadadary if they're there would be there an episode. So I think

I've readled that. I think that I'm more disciplined, I'm more more calm, I'm more centred,

like they say. Yeah, but that's that's a difference, yeah. Really. So,

your means are not all the same? Effectively. You think? Effective. Well, we've, we

have two methods different at the base, but we're rejoin. We're joined with the time, we're joined.

I guess, we're joined. We're just we're just, we're part like, you're parted a

bit more And you've You've got to You've got to find You know, you're trying to You're talking about You're talking about

I'm, I'm I'm saying, I'm I'm saying, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, well, I'm to say, I'm, You can't, you can't,

yeah, it's true, I'm trying to, do you, I'm, doing, I'm, You're saying, you're doing, you know, I'm, you know, I'm

often, I'm, I'm not, you're not a, you know, a station service this week, we're, we're we're all the time,

we're all the of the way of the station, service, at the corner, he's trying to tinked, I had the front of and I'm going to

oh, my love, I'm also, I'm also. And after that we're at the two. It's all what it's worth what

it's a way. Yeah, we go to get some some of some of some of

we can't, and I'm my 30 years to go to at Toronto and at Toronto we're a trick

spatial and we we've seen a document on the mission

on Mars and we've in the documentaire, that for the mission on Mars, a thing,

that the astronauts travel, because they're going to be on on the same, they're super away, they're they're very

very much, they're in over the other, because I'm through the whole, they're going to they're in

they valid, they say, they're saying, yes, they're they're extremely polied for post-apisner, and at the point,

and at a point, we were doing, we'd have to do that's a word, we'd have to we'd say, we we'd say, we'd say,

we'd say, you're, you're, Steve, is, was very chancer. Steve cuisine in the house,

every time. Each repress, I'd I'd like to thank you. Thank you for the repop. We'll ask

to do we to the remercise also. We're very in the little the little

thanks. We think, we think that it's a travel your and the cotise.

And you thought that you'd be able to be able to be able to maybe, I'm

there's a I'm very in the it's for that when I when I had when I

had been adolescentist has been a lot of people who have done It's not about all right?

It's what, it's what, it's, the essence, present, present, present, that's the precept of existence. Yes,

what you do, what you do, so what you're, so that's what you, and what you're, what you, is what you, what you're,

what you're, I did get in, if I'm , I'm gonna appreciate because of my sense of humor, if I'm just, they're gonna appreciate

because I'm because I'm just if I'm just, if I'm appreciative because they're so, so, so, it's a cool to,

it's fun, because it's, it's, you, With, yeah, I think I've been for being, I'm doing,

I'm doing, I'm doing, the counterbalance is, there's just exist, it's a case. I'm very, my life,

my family, my family, me say, relax, you can, stop, to do you have, you can't be,

to be able to, you know, you can't, you're not to get to it, just that's sufficient. You're,

you're an person, you're in the sense, because it's because it's right, sometimes we have the impression

you know, you know, you know, to, you know, or, to find useful in something where

person doesn't don't know the good comedians will say, exist, the camera will go to get to get, the camera will

go to get to see the same there's the same there's the same the expression in English, less is more, you see, you know, it's an far

and you know, when you understand that in the phone, that also it's an other thing that's also, it's

a bit of tapezed, but it's not it's not, but it's in the sense that you don't need to be able to

it's, it's denervant, no, It's going to ameth. It's a lot of it. I'm going to be. I'm going to be more enervant to exist

than to do things. Oh, yeah. A, what is enervant in exist? Well, because I've been conditioned or, at, at, I do offry

something, a little a little singe, I, I'm a soub, I receive a jujube, well, if I'm put the or if I make a good

gesture, or if I'm in return, I'm a more, it's a bit difficult for me just, or you will that's more it's more than more

it's more it's more it's more it's more for me but it's more it's like you know,

you know, you have some you have some you have some in couple, the fan individual is, is that that

that's changed is that you valid also you know, those who you know, I'm more I'm less

this feeling that, but let's you know when I'm when you could be for me be

someone of intimidate not an intimidator but I Like, we're like, we're solid to try to I'd like

this sensation that, you know, I'd have like, oh, no, we're being, it's like, it's like, oh, boy,

is, is, the fans, do you think that they're that, or they're so, they're not

that, there's not, that, there's, there's, there's, there's, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, see,

I, I'm, I have another that's you know, because of the times I'm quite,

I'm quite like I'm sure, I'm quite there's a I'm afraid of, you know, I'm not sure, I'm not

about your she's, she's, she's, she has, she's, you know, that's what you

know, like, as it's like, it's like, it's different. Oh, yeah, he,

he'll learn a lot, I'm not, I'm not, no, not the choice. Yeah, well,

in fact, I'm, I'm the choice, but I'm, I'm, Because your nature, it's not that? No,

I know my nature, well, probably my nature is the people airing, to do you know, I think I'm doing the people

can't do you not far as well, you can't do it, you'll be able to it's not, so it's been so it's changed.

But even, you know, just like, arriving a coin of view, you know, when we're like, when we're

like, when we're like, we're like, we're like, no, no, you know, you're like,

she's like, no, he's like, no, he he's, he's like, he's like, to look at to look at the , she's not,

it's a man, you know, there was really, this notion that you said, Tantot, that had never been to be

at a zero, you know, it's a example, to traverse the and it's, and it's not , it's,

because it's very, just, we let the people, in the same in the same very severe, but it's

that's so, but it's that's just like it's it's true to understand, but as respect the regulations because he doesn't

it's not the regulations. It's your reglement to be your to say, you're saying, you're a lot of people. You're going to travel to say, well, you know, it's sure that's it's fair, you know,

it's not, you know, for me, it's not being very responsible. I'm not the person more responsible of the world, that's sure. No, because

it's like the base, there's, there's not, there, but she's there, but she's it's always to have to look at

there, there's like this kind of principle of I'm in Montreal. For real, that I think that's a

difference, Montreal, Belgrade, at Montreal, you're used to my dad, my father, my wife, my wife,

they're going to see, they're going to do you. But it's your way. But it's the rules, how you make to the other,

by the other one of our other people, she said, you're very, you're very, to see, the day,

I'm like, the day, the regular the other thing, the thing, the regular, the regular,

the regular, the regular, the is what's, you, accept you, you, If there's a thing that I accept,

is that I provoke. I'm not all the time in the provocation, and then, we'll just be obstinate. I mean, I like, I'm really,

I'm really, I'm in front in the mood, I'm pretty, I'm really, I'm just, I'm just, I think,

I do, and when there's a reaction, and when, well, there, I'm, I'm, if you're not,

if you're an reaction. Yeah, when you're not, when you're, you know, when you're, well, the choice.

Well, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, And, you know, a number is Mike Ward, and my word, and the liberty,

the liberty of expression, it's not just what I'm just, you say, if you do you do, the liberty of expression, it's like the authenticity. It's like,

it's always to be authentic, but when you're authentic, you know, you can't accept the authenticity of the other. You can't

say, you're don't say, you're doing me accept as well, it's, it's also polarize because you're not in the

business, you're not in the regard of the other, you're not in the way, you're in, but it's

like I'm so that I'm not that's it's possible that it's it's like it authentic to play. I think it's sometimes it's

a terrain glissant where you do you do you do what you say and after that you'd be people

everyone accept that no no I accept but it's but it's good that's I think it's I think I'm

I think I'm I think I'm I think I'm just stuff we're never voted for the same party

I have some people have some different I'm I'm a I'm a I'm

I'm a the discussion. I debaubes super bad. I'm saying, I bettie sometimes I'm saying, I'm going to say, to talk about to be able to be able to

talk about, I'm going to be able to what you know. What's the way to hear about? I'm not going to do you know, I'm a lot,

but I'm very, very much I'm not, I'm not very bad, I'm not very very good, my ideas. So often it's the,

we're going to discuss, and I'm, I'd have you to say, let's say, so, why don't,

I'm really, I'm not, you've not, that's not that argumenter? No. And is

you change an idea? All the time. All the time, all the time, all the time, I change a lot of people,

I'm around the people who change to get to be in people who are being around, and I'm fatigant,

it's hard, no, yeah, I'll say, you know, you've had new new done,

you're saying, the matter of scientific, it's that all the new new new new new new new new you change?

It's so. It's so. There's is, if you do you think that difficult, that's like that part

of the abandon, that? Um, yeah, in the sense in the sense where it's

not a lot of like, like the example of the time, you know, I'm in the same time, it's in the

same, it's it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not where I'm, where I'm, it's all the

time, it's, this space of situation where we can never be comfortable, it's more

that, to the abandon, it's, if he's, he's all the time, it's all the

all the time, it's, sometimes, sometimes, we can talk about there's a time,

and she's right, and I'm sure, she's in it, she's a bit of yeah, yeah,

then she's to be in the bed in the and then we're no, and there's there's like,

no, we're we're, it's like, no, but I know, maybe,

we're going to get a vacancy, okay, but I'm coming my order, and then

then, and then, and it's all there's all, there's, there's, there's like, sometimes I'm,

sometimes, I've said, I say I said, I say often the phrase, he's supposed to stop the hamster. It's just a lot of amster. It's not. You know, of the anxiety. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you're just saying, you just try to calm the anxiety for, but then, but, you're saying, it's something that's something that's preoccupied the , the money.

Well, when we're not doing, you, you can't even. Is that you've known? No. I'm, I'm just so. I'm, I'm, I'm so. I've got, I've got, I'm obsessed by the And I said, do you have a murder? No? You know, you're a part of what you know what I'm doing.

So, my father's always arranged for when they're some of the money. Because there's because there's like, all their life, you know, it's like,

it's like, it's can't be my but you know, but you're really a fear, so when you have no money and you say,

you've got more the money, but what's he's said that's been to that's been I think it's it's a lot of

when you're that's, you know, it's got to you-pies, when you're more who you're more it's a maybe that

it's a it's a it's not a I'm it's a I'm pretty a lot of the time it's

a lot the cost of bank, there's a number of click, there's all the chiff

that's a high, you're not as oh, you have to get the chif, the chiff, it's not

good, I think we're getting much in a in a chiff in a chiff, okay, you have you

not to do you to do you have to have to get a time of in the count. I think that I orient my anxiety by the chifes

because an anxiety, anarchy is, it's not tangible, so if I'm saying, I'm saying, oh, maybe that's these are these shifts, it's, it's a piece of illusion, the chasse-a-dragone. But it's not reposant. No, but, I'm in, of it. The answer to Dr. Serge Markey? No. You know, you read that. Because Serge Markey, is a doctor

in medicine community care. This is a live that has been in a country We have a community virtual that's called the Markleau

and, you know, Serge Marquis has been often, and it has been so at what how can't get to

turn it, because it's the anxiety, all the scenarios, you know, and he said at a moment of a, he said,

in plus, you know, the anxiety is related to the ego also. Your ego is menaceed.

So, there's all time in survival. You know, at a minute, you can make the choice to get the mode of

life for the mode to live. Because an ego agitated, it's a state of vigilance completely incredible,

you're, you're, you're chas the mammoth, you're still, I think, I'm not, I'm not,

you know, connect to I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm trying, to be,

I'm sorry, I'm saying, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, when I'm, I'm, you're of the affairs. And when... Your performance. Yes, there's a certain...

I mean, I'm doing, I think, I'm doing very, you know, but if you're in the night, it's far, like, I'm not...

In the comments, in the comments, say, all those who dooms to die of to die, no,

no, but if you get in thinking that you're not, and you're having, you know,

you know, it's a, but then, it's, no, not really, no, not really,

and, the day of the day of the same, I'm coming, and I think that, but I think that's like to get it and I think also that's your motor Yeah, it's that I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm there's a question, yeah I'm, I'm, I'm, I think it's a lacquare that's a bit more more agree, if it's calm, if it's because it's an antidote

I, I'm all the time to find, that's a thing, you know, you know, when the people when people are, you know, I'm a lot of fun, and I'm all the time in the bad-demeor.

I don't know. I don't know. Because the pleasure, it's a bit of antidote of the amster that's too agitated, in the sense that, it's like if you metta that on pause.

The pleasure, we have a doctor in neuroscience who said in the mark, the pleasure, it's like if you don't have not, your car can't be stifondry.

It's not it. It's not much. We'll forget that. We'll forget that, yes, it's spontaneous, it's not long time,

but it has really a impact. positive. And also, I've got I'm talking. There's also a question of that's the

part of the part of the part of the I'm not always you're not all the anguas. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. But what's what you do you say that's what you say there's not there's always even it's so,

even I'm like it's not obliged to be able to serve-bush a road there. Some it can you have some

some sort of these stuff. And then he says, no, no, no, he'd say, all the worst, is that I'm saying, oh. Marine Joaquin had said that. Marlene Jokane, I said, you know, I said,

Marlene, I'm saying, I mean, I'm saying, oh, no, Tomo. You know? You're, too, epilogram. Zero. It's the inverse. You're a malade, man.

I'm a bad. He has a pit of athlete for eight years, and then, he made his cream two years, and then after that, he'll end up. I'm going to get married. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The old restant that I guard on the fray in the end of the I'm trying

why there's why he's been why he's put the Poolet of the malady and then it's just for that you're pet he'd pu like that

you're saying like that you're you know the you're saying you're too you're mad at you're too you're probably

but rarely you're quite you're kind of a long time and having been in an apartment or as I'm

or like I said the Hurtel didn't not like a you're repri it's all you're repri same The property of the

house pass a little more. But it's, but, no, no, you're not, no,

whoa, whoa, he's not, he's not trainue, and it's not, my friend, he's not, he's not,

he said, it's proper to show, and I'm going to be a lot, but I just, I've been

to say, I've had seen that, it's not to say, but I'm sorry, but I'm , I think,

it's simple that you're that's clear, that's, I think, that's, it's one of my hypothesis,

to consult, at two sous, to, yeah, it's a unaluered always, yes,

she's a little, it's not, a matter, a problem, a problem, a lot of, to be it

a lot of, because we're doing the machines, we're in the machines, we're in the problems,

yeah, we, we're doing, I'm trying, to calmate, yeah, I'm, but, sometimes,

you know, we're saying, you're too, that's, you're free with the money, well,

than, well, but more Putin, who has the country, no? Or more than Trump who create these wars and who I mean, I mean,

I think, we know, we know, we're in a system where the world is obscened by the money, I mean, there's people who live in these times, because the, the loggments are too cheap, because we live in a society, in a...

Yes, I'm afraid of the food with the but we're not, I'm... But it's a lot of course in that you're in. Enormant, and you're enormously, and it's like that... Because if you're in a... But, me, it's... It's a... It's a... It's a... But, first of them, it's

true, because, you know, Thomas, he will certainly often give some examples like that for justify, like your own comportment. Yeah,

that's like when your parents, it's like, the parents say, you know, your own food, what's the answer? What's the time? So,

so, I'm like, I'm saying, that's the fact, that's the way, that's right, you're in the life, and, like, we have no longer

and, I know, that's going to try to reason with him, because, like, the time, the Trump, the Trump,

and the Ukraine, and the Ukraine, I'm like, I'm going to be me to go to get to be I'm going to like this.

I'm going to let's go to let's go out of and it's like that's what I'm that's more that's it's more that he's just that

he came to a place where his father has a few he has always had a few more modest where there's

sometimes the suh you have had to be hard, far, far far, for I'm making sure

my mom and my mother, we had financed a on accumuling during two years I've made I've made. I've already

had already I've got used more $4 dollars in my account of the money,

I'm just I'm not I'm not I'm not because I'm to pay my job I'm at two times of the

scenario that so when I I'm reveye in the night, he thinks that I'm that I'm not

that I'm not that's that's a minute that's that I'm over and I'm gonna you have there's

there's always that you'd say it's quite it's quite for me to tell tend to do make an anxiety

financial while, you know, I'm like, my parents come to, my parents, come to do the two

different, you know, so I'm like, so I'm like, but after that I'm like that there's like, I'm not saying,

hey, just an certain point. But, but, you know, just an certain point, my love,

but, you know, but but the money, it's kind of something something, you know,

in the, you know, in the source of chikann, the money, the three times,

I remember not a one when it's And we're not really zero a source of problem and what's what's also

is that we're doing our project our projects are our production we're all we're we all made together and it's not

like if someone was one of us were a medicine and the other had not a lot of money there's a lot there we're

there we're we do so we're we do we we have a space of the expense that's semblable, so we're

fun. When you live that's a point very positive. All right, it's a point very positive. Everything is common, all right, I like to buy some time, he pays his ecuteuctor at each two weeks, he's on re-achot. It's all right, it's a running

gag, like, well, there's a lot there's a pair of acutor that's in my bureau, but I'm asking to one of the credit, and I access to the contract of credit. Well, me also, I just to hear you. Yeah, I think of it.

But I think I'll go out more often. Yeah, it's all right, you're on access to at least eight times by that's a minute to,

the good the best of the best of the money, we'll go to see, there's a see, I'm going to

see, I'm going to okay, okay, I've put the money to work to credit credit and I was and I was

like to and I said the person the two, it's me, so, so, la,

la, she can continue to do that, yeah, okay, there's a problem to get to get a

problem, because, hey, I, I, I, Well, you've had a little Prys of conscience.

Hey, Niveauroo Ruge, you're on Pugue, and then. And then, in couple? In couple, we're parted on couple.

But it's all good, I'm sure, but you're doing this. I love, I love. I love I love, I love I love, I'm not sure,

but I like that. At which a question profound, Thomas, or Stephanie, respond, they, what is the

Pirepue that you have had to traverse ensemble, if you're tomorrow, is that you are in P?

I'm I like with the Yeah, it's like with the Yeah, it's not It's not Yeah, it's not Yeah, I'm at least You're at least

You know, Do you know, To call? You're at least Perfect I think Yeah, I'm I think

I'm really A rapport, I'm I'm a I'm saying I'm really Like, I'm really

The famous Repo Internell Is you Fatigue? I'm fatigued For you're That's just I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm a You know, I was a guy to do my my mother amending

when you know when it's a when you're a big house she has a part in a condo because she she she she

she she she'll make she'll make some she's like I'm in the box of school then I'm and then I'm

and I'm saying hey check it's a photo of my like a certain year I'm sure the little

the little my little yeah I'm sorry it's not I'm saying it's not me she's not she's not

yeah yeah it's not yeah it's not yeah so that who me me write you're

I've got to have been tired of It's just that's so that's that's so but you know it's true

I've had a few I've had a time our time our time our time it's a grot

for dormant long time I'm I'm a I'm a rapport to to the relaxation

that me make do good I'm I'm I'm to work and I'm

repose. And we're like I see the death of this. I've got got a chance to know my

my rear grandmair who's unfortunately deced today. I've seen my four grandparents who

are probably but I'm like I'm like a lapse of time of a dozen of a time of a

time. I'm all right. I've all seen from different ways, of different conditions. It's got

so much have been so on the mar sometimes it's co, sometimes it's long,

sometimes it's suffering, but what I did it's really, I mean, I mean, I mean,

to have been the name of a grammar and say, you can you can't, you know,

you can't you know that's fatigued, I know, I'm too, I'm gonna be put to be,

to repose, so I'm, so, so, and I'm also so, I'm also, I'm

really, the more also, not a finality, I believe that we're in over the other, I think we're really that we live in the heart of the other,

that we live in the stories, in the experiences we've been with the people. So, all these people that I know that are partied

live a little in me, I hope in the car of certain people when I'm going to see, so I'm a bit,

it's for that I'd partire in peace, I think. But when you've been mayor, is their

rapport to have, the report to have changed? Yes, And then, it's the first that I'm, you know, that I'm there's a lot, you know, I'm

I don't know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm a lot of, you know, I'm a friend of true crime. So, you know, de facto, you know, she's, they're part at the school, he'll have a tragedy at the school, and she'll be, you know, have you made, you know, it's... Have you made your testament, you know?

Yeah, we've got, we're put, when he posed, the question. A three, we're trying. That's a question, you know, that's a bit, you know, This question, it's all right? You part, if you parted, the two, and if you were parted, the three,

with me, the three, it was like, it's possible. The only, you know, we'd say, I'd ever realized that my son would die until, just to the moment, you? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Fack, yeah, I'm, I, it's more,

sometimes, when I'm saying, or that's my, that's over at some way, or that's in his day of school, sometimes it I'd in, you know, this thought,

if it's the last time that I'm in an espouse intrusive, to say, no, no,

we've got to let's the life, and you don't know to be able to and it and at the

inverse also, it's on that's, you know, that's he's been, the moment when he's

when he's has attained the age where he has per his mother, the two, it has

it's at this age that that that's that my mother We can imagine the United States of the Mare, to see, it's not subitement. Exactly. She's a bit of course that's a bit.

No, but it's a thing that's very difficult to her death, it's not a, and it's not, my God, my mom, but she's in the denie all the long. It's the role of my father, he said to understand, no, no, no, no, you're going to say attention. By example, one of the things the most troubling that my father me said, and I said, ah, the guy has lived here, I've been, hey, I'm going to be, I'm going to be a problem, but once you had to go to the medicine, and are you able to continue to work? And my mother And my mother

And she was a Like it's an An school for the young of female Amer So it's a It's a work Not a train of

A bureau It's a train of You're able You're You're doing, So you're She'll be To be able to

Reste And my dad And my dad Have you And so No, Ransweas You're able?

You're You're gonna You're You're able Go ahead You can't You can't You can't

You can't To cross And my father had due, to, to live to live this to find to find out

you're not you're not and you're not a lot of and she's not going to have to get to and then you're

very, very, very direct with her in saying, now you're saying, you're trying to get a

face. So, so, you know, the dene it would be because it was too

hard. Yeah, it's impossible that's yeah, and I'm don't know, but you're

not, no, but you're, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

your own Your there's a there's and you you want to you know and you

know you know you know it's said that you know so you don't know you know you want to

you know you know you know you know you know to put to that so that

so that this age that was quite particularly when Zau you had had

there had something there yeah we're we're we're we're

almost on year pretty the the the example

then and to say, yeah, well, if you know, if you know, if your mother has made the dewee of you also, you know, she's, no, she made the dewe,

she has made the dewee in all the case. So, yeah, it's difficult. There's a, it's sure that if I'm not, I know, I'm a

little female, and I'm a little fee, and I know that's difficult. But I think that I'd partier in in the sense where

I've made of my more I'm doing I'm to make all the that's

that I'm with these principles I've made I've done I'm doing that I'm not I'm

I'm I'm saying if we if we're if we're okay not super that's not

that's bad this parko we're some to sense I've planted the be beautiful

flowers you you know I have a I have a I said I have a real of a but who

in the comment I'm going to write with the report I'm in my I've never had been to be afraid

I've got that I'm fear that the more of my friends of my of my of my

my I'm not really really not really I'm pretty plenty of

decision impoundable that I'm made in the man so

I'm I'm I think at the more I'm can

even if I'm doubt, serene, to my proper more I'm more of the mother of my wife, to have my friend of my

wife, to have my wife, I think at my my mom, I'm like, is it a life after the death? It's a life after

the death? For the other, yes, for me, for me, I don't know of Steph, but I think, when when someone die, it's a tragedy,

I don't know in question, there. But, it's very that the war is not a fine. When you,

when you're not physical, there are the photos, it's, there of the SOUvenile, it's a

quote. I'm a example, you know, my mother my wife, but I'm I'm in the

question, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm, we're in the way, she's still there,

it's still a little present. So I think I think it's not a fine in sort of drastic.

Yes, there's a difficulty, yeah, it's a different, yeah, you can't

see, you can't see, but you can even talk to talk to the person, there's,

many, there's a many, it's decided there. Christopheray, who is a grand psychiatrist French, it's he has instored

the soins paliative at the children in France and it's a grand specialist of dey and the other time he said, the dey, the dey, it's,

first, it's the pain, it's the perth, it's the mark, but with the time, this person that becomes in us exactly what you

say, and she, and she, I said, to say, to do you, say, to say, but he said,

we can't do you, we can't do do you, we've never a deo, we've ever, all his

life because a music, a little plot, you know, that's a lot

that's going to be and that the presence will be to be in us, but we're

all the life in us, this person that is important. And that it's a

force, and it's there, it's important to create some also. Also,

when the artists, when the artists, we're doing, there's a thing, we're a

thing, we know, that's for that the people have to David Bowie is decided. Yeah, but David Bowie is still there.

And then David Bowie is more, you know, you know what? You know, you know, if there were the reason because we're doing the reason why we're doing, we're doing the reason why we're doing with the people, it's for perdurre in the time.

Is that, you know, there's one of the two that will partier before you think? Is that, sometimes, you think, I think of the end of the end of the same time

because we're at a funerary. Yeah. And I've made, a minute, I made, I'm going to assist to my own,

and it's a not quite so. I'm going to oh, no, what's what I'm doing to do?

And the person, we've made some of the person who is parted, she had prepared her own playlist,

her own list musical, because it was, it was, it was a part, preview,

announced, tragic, but announced. And then we said, and we have made to after,

because there a lot of music, he like he likes I mean, I hate that. Well, I hate that. Well, I like, I hate that.

Yeah, okay, I hate that. And I, I mean, I like, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you're very gangster. Yeah, I'm trying to do, oh, no, there's, I was, I said, Tom, I said, there, like, if you part, and it's my, like, your funeral, like, your, there, your playlist, we'll have to let them end up with these ecuctor, because I want to that's not that's worth the gross rap.

I'm, I trace the limit, there, you can choose your playlist, but it's a post of an e-cote. Yeah, because it's like the funerals it's for the people who rest. 100%

and it's a real of you say that's a there's a many people who are who wanted not to funerail and it's not

for you know the marriage is for the couple yeah it's a ritual for the people and then sometimes I think

to the person that's like I'm open that the marriage is a decision personal that we're not married

and I'm and I'm very very eyes with that the funeral is really sometimes I think to this person

And I'm like, it's true, we're like, and it's really, and it's like, and it's like, you know, you know, that's not,

I know, I'm, you know, there's a job hockey, I know these guys, but I'm gonna get to get a other aspect,

you know, after your after your after your after your because there yeah, because there's

there's a and they're who, you know, who, come to be to come to and you know, when my

man, when my mother had decided there a few in the summer, there, there's a

my mom, when you, your mother when she said, it's changed my life and said, oh, my my mother has changed the

life of, some of the people, they've seen, and I'm trying, why, why I'm, why I'm

doing that before, so I'm seeing that I would have a dimension, but in the same time,

I've been I've done, and I'm could also, if we've not had been a ritual funerererer,

but I never knew. So, so it's for me, and I think we've got to have

tendance to tell me to want to be vulnerable, that sometimes we're We're scrape

a little the ritual funerer. We're we're, because we're because we're afraid of

to midgette, but it's the last time that we're like midgete in this zone that for this person

that, you know, and I think when it's long, you know, sometimes it's many in a salon and all and then

there's a bit for the family and all, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

because there there's a problem because you're there you're playing and you when you're when you're

you'll address and then maybe that an hour or two two more you'll be think to be a story

you'll be to be in a situation we've seen to a person that's been and it's too much,

it's just like to make a she's important for me, she's important that you're being, it's extraordinary

that, but really, it's fabulous. There's a thing I assisted at the funeroy and there's a

very much that I've really very very very beautiful, the funererererererer in, sorry, but it's

very rapidly after the Marse of Defern. contraryly to us, we're a more...

It's a bit more elastique, the Muslims, it's very rapid. Yes, the Muslims, they're, they're,

they're in, they're in the car, in the car, in the car, in the earth, it's a thing,

we make the car in the world, and I think, it's a real ritual, because it's, it's a

matter, and yeah, it's so, but it's so, it's so, it's so, it's true that with a

with a lot of with that, they're very frontal, very frontal, the Muslims, and I think that's a it's a great

aspect, that's a boy, we're both to concentrate of the and we're both to say,

oh, it's cool, and ha ha, it's good and he's he's not, and it's all right,

and it's like that. Yeah, yeah, but they're associated to be the people,

there's there's some point, there's a chicanne of each culture we're going, we're going, each culture.

Yeah, yeah, we, we can't learn all, yeah, yeah,

but, but, I think, in case, in presentment, the rituals, at all the time we can't

talk to be in and it's, you, evoey someone to say, well, we'd say, we'd

not do things, but, because I've seen that, in the time, in the time, I've been written in my testament,

at all, all the time, it's all right, me to get me to get to, for who? For you? It's why,

you're not, you're not, you're not, that, you're there, I know, I know, I know,

I know, that one of , she wanted, She had She had been so She had Not even

She's like she Like I'm Like I'm gonna You know, you're gonna You're up up But I'm But I'm gonna say

I'm gonna be My priority This final Yeah, she You know, My mom When she's My mom,

I mean I was You know, Like she's like She's like She'll be She'll be She'll be She's like

She's like She's gonna She's like She's like She's She's like She's like She's like

She's like It's like she wanted to be in this vulnerability there. There was really something of confrontant for me.

And finally, it's not passed as it has been not as much I'll say it's all right, we'll be with

you know, when you're going to be deced and then she was and I've done plenty of advice to be able to

she said my mother had a lot she said, she's, she, because she, she, she,

she's, she'll be at a time, my buch, my bouch, it's over over, and then my d'clock,

it's no. She's going to she's going to you're going to and you're going to and she's like with the rigidity cadaverick,

15 minutes after it's been a messachal a messachance of we're in a mess with it's all right to do it

she'll have said it's a bitch, she she's with a doctor we're saying she's she never

heard this thing that but when we got she never move it she's all I've made

a ritual incredible it's had during before we before we she has she was

she can't she But, I mean, I'd like to say, I'd rather than, I'd just, I'd rather than, I'd like, I'd have to be, so I'd, so I'd have every other, so I'd,

I'd have done, but at least, I'd imagine, if we'd have invited, all the whole, you know, my family, the newve, the, you know, that, you know,

that's, you know, I thought that already, the intimacyity of the proches, it's made to be able to open to other after, because we'd

have, because we'd, I'd have been just, to have, just, to have, just, we had

been to have our adieu in this moment and I invite all to do you

to do you it's, it's, it's a matter to make a more more than,

to have the past, to have been doing the to have had been that so we

have lived that's that I'm appeased with my life that after

after. What I like my definitive the funeral it's not by

the life, it's what I of the funeroyle, it's there's a lot, and there's many, I'm also, too, I'm also, I do it, and I'm not a critic of that, but

at the funeroy, there's no, there's no, there's no, it's just, it's very concrete, and it's true, for real, to say to people, it's important, bring the people in your arms, it's important, to, bring so in, in the funeral, when everybody, everyone, to bring to their own, you, there, you know, there, there's

there, there, there, there's, there, there, there, there, there's, there, there's , there, there's, very, very dought, one a way to us, I think it's like they're saying, I don't I live like that every day. How are we

to be in a funeroy, we can't be able to be able to every year? Is it a couple, to say, it's like that when you're a chican, and that

I'm going to when there's that's a argument that, for a gunn't, when you know, the importance we're like,

but now, why we're about, we're talking, you know, the life is too short, but there,

but there, we're still can't even that it's it's all all the absolute, it's a example

to the time to the absolute. But it's true. But it's a reason, there's a

reason why I do you know to do you like that I'm like that when you know, when you

when you know, when I'm very banal this morning but my sentiment anti-gare has really

exploded from his funeroy there. There are there there's there's

there there thereos who provoked there that cause the funerourour when you

when you when you're no, you know, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the politics, and we'll think the , you create these funerals,

you, you, you, you, you, do the people, you know,

you're doing, you know, that, there's, there, there's, yeah, yeah,

level, eros, no, oh, we're gonna get to , that,

you're gonna go, there, you're, there, so, so, so,

so, so, question, before, M, M, And you're not going to say to say to the Joker, and it's uncomfortable, there's no problem.

You know, in relation to me, with a politician, what's with a politician, because they're doing because they're reputed for live in a world of monsoon and treason of it.

Of the manipulation, even. There's not just in the politics, I'd say that everywhere in my life. You'd say like that. Well, I'm not vexed that,

I mean, honestly, because, you know, I was already a militant, We've founded a party political and we've been because we have a conviction because I think

that long time we've thought that the things could change for real. We, we're made to trair also. And it's like when we've

quit the party liberal of Quebec, in fact, when we've made the party liberal of Quebec because of the report-all-air

and we're we've got we've got to we're really, where we're where we're partaged plenty of things

and certainly we're saying we're saying that we're saying that you're never made to tryire, you'd say,

you'd say, And then at a moment then, then, there's arrived, and there's a moment

we've made to the door, they've chosen the other and they've chosen, it's a

traisome because it becomes, the politics, it's human in a board. You know, we're reproach

a lot of things to the politics, but it's the human who are there on the moment present

that, who don't a essence to even a party political, you know, you change to change

to, you know, you can say, you can say, for this party. Finally, there's a chef something that will arrive. They will partage these ideas. You're saying, but finally, so it's for that,

I'm just a lot, but I think, but the first trailsome that we've in the case, in case, I've lived here, because I repensate all over, and I'd say, that all the long, that I'd say, that, she'd be parted out of that, and I was never, I've never

found out, so I thought that the traisone preening of the place, and after, in politics, we've had used that, you know, of people who changed, of, it's very difficult to live, because,

live publicly also. You live personally you live publicly it's a little I don't know

it's like some of the time you're like to be able to see what I'm can't even

my caller so I'm the trahons now you know it's it's a

much of the politics, that the power that the money that the ego that's

that has done in the because you say to come with me I'm

I'm all you're all done the light that you've you've got a limousine of ministers. These things

that for me will absolutely nothing say but for the world it's it's a lot so. So,

so I've understood that, okay, you know, until the point these convictions are anchored the person

I, you know, I'm, I'm very suspicious with the time. This person that is there why?

What's what he's the name here exactly? Because if if you don't know that,

you can't to be to tryya to tryya and there to be to be confident

that's really when Mario is when Mario is the opposition official of Quebec, there's not

people that we've never seen that they're they're in this one we're not we're not and they're

not in a event and you're to be in all the person that they're off-ske to not to be able

to be we're at the world that we're we're always we're always we're always we're

always they're still they're and they're not after we after we with us with us

there's also you're also you you're saying also you're you're doing that you said, the personnel political,

you know, they're like, okay, they're like, they're like, hey, that for me, and these people

like Mario had quit, and the issue of the decision, we, we've never ever seen, we've never

heard, we've never heard of, and I, when I'm, I was, I was, I was,

I'm still very prudent by a rather that, although I thought that there had kind of there,

there's more, there more, there more, there more of treison, in the, but in the the milieu

political, I've seen that, I think that I I think that I had a radar a detector after this event Oh yeah

you've traversed a tempete you're still at least you're all right than people who after the tempete and who wouldrere be the hero

that's no opportunist But you were not when it was excuse me my people who the people who get back from

because they're part they're embark not in my batteau after then in fact if you're

in fact if you embark at vote at the night in right, it's not the place of

those who were not in the tempate. That for me there's like in my life also. I'm like,

I'd say that I'd could do you have been like you know, even in a team, I'm saying,

okay, this person that, we can't not let make to make on the QG, it's more

in strategy, and this person that, that's a guy, that's, that's, she will,

she, she will be fronted, she will, she will be able to, in campaign electoral,

you can't campaign electoral, there are people all the long every day, there are almost who are almost coming, where the pressure

is too great. You know, when you know, the pressure is really, the pressure is too and there you know, the force to continue,

and in the same time, you want to be able to do you say, okay, get, quit the court, get to be

out of course, you know, and then to all the same, and then to get in the year, than you can't

be able to do you're able to because it's onue the of that you're not idea. It's true?

I'm so I'm really like me the campaign electoral because there you have the adrenaline and it's hard

a lot of you know, you get a year, you get the day, you get some the time, all the troops are

demoralised you have to get you're the end up the end of the end up you're saying, no, okay,

we're going we're we're probably we're gonna tomorrow, we're capitalized on the day we're

we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're apart, we're gonna we're gonna I'm just, I'm the

adrenaline I'm so the impreview, I, I, I, I, and it's a fun, it's something something of human

also, you know, and so, but when you know, it's very difficult, because, often, even when we

don't get, we're still after a campaign electoral, you know, the car is like so, you know,

it's long, and then, the car he relash, and it's, so, the adrenaline tombe,

and, yeah, but you're, but you're, but, but, in a situation, a campaign

electoral, you're really, to understand, to understand, your force and your febless. Because you do you have analyzed and even suranilized

on the day every thing you do like a year. I was at my lady, my daughter, my God, my God,

Juliet is in 2002 in 2002, so the campaign neutral that had been all of course, and the

journal of Gazette, you had made an interview with because I had been in politics,

I had in the country that it was the the more difficult, but as my

time, and it was never very long, and a moment of the ,

we did the interview, it's a little long. So I said, I'd probably I'd probably be I'd

need to get my fill out of my field and the article the day of the last week the last time about about

a lot of barrette, a problem understand you? So, so, it's like, it's kind of

that, hey, I'm, I can't you say how, but what's you do you

do you, you can't see, it's painted and they're but they're like, they're

they're like, they're three children. See, it's like that we're in the

little house, yeah, she's quite she'll let it, she'll be at the

thing, I'm going to say, okay, I'm not about it like, you know, you know,

to be the more, that, me and to know, it's not that I know, that I'm

a letter to you know, it's, you see, it's, it's, so, it's,

so, so, so, so, so, so, and it's, it's,

it's, it's really when we Because when you're the when you're the family of a When you're the Conjoin-Conjoint you're doing, you're

March, you're trying to your line is menace because you want to derange the other candidates you don't know to do the only you'll not say after that the people

they're going to judge you know, at the case it's like a little bit in carcane in something. It's a role of role

yeah, yeah I'm and we've done we've done we've come in we've come up when I'm when I'm coming

at 21 years so until 21 year to 21 year to 21 year and 40-year-a-pressed to have been and it's it's a

three, four-four- I think, I'm saying, well, I'm saying, I'm saying, the sole person

that's the person that's it's not, and the first to say, it's a cause of that she's a

that I'm not, I'm not, but it has been a couple years, but I'm getting to

it's a bit of time, yeah, but in fact the people me said, they're able to be able

to resteper without Mario You're in a You're in a piece You're in a piece And you can Yeah, yeah Exactly

You know, so So, so Yeah, it's So, yeah, But the policy It's been, I think That's all the

It's actually It's extremely Formate There's a There's an There's a It's a A bit like

The jury You'd The deputies, it'd be It'd be A lot It'd be It's a

People, They're They're They're able to To have Gere the It's Forgian the

Yeah, Because the Political When you're as a benevolence, it's very formate.

Already, to understand how it's the system political, how a project of the law and the

influence of the citizens, you know, there's a to learn the function of the work, why we pay

the tax, why, the responsibility that we have like the people, it's not very that's

it's a same, it's not the same, we're not in the extreme, so it's

finally it's finish by to ressembled, but there's can't we vote to we know, we're doing, you know,

we're doing to vote for the party who are in, it's the pair of own, give me the power, give me the power to choose,

but it's so, but, you know, I think, you know, you know, that's a engagement, it's, you're

to learn, to argue, to, you're having, to, we, you're going to, yes,

you're talking, sometimes, you're, if I'm, to, some, the people, the militant

on the internet or the militant in the living in the way. You have to convince. It's not just to find a lot of culpable to pass like you. You have to convince. It's difficult. It's difficult.

I mean, I'd like that to have some it's not. But after that's going to... But what's... But the first time... Yeah, the region to region, it's very different. The people have not the same preoccupation. It's there.

You see, you know, that... Representing 125-counted, well, you have to... The boss. It's not the same thing. Or the gaspies, you, so. So, so you've got to understand. So, I'm, like, to go to go to go to my

great riches, and when I'm having to tell you, well, it's at this world that that I'd say, like, the world who are behind the port, I'd have talked. For me, it's something that I trimbled, and it's for that I say, to people, you know, a poetic, no, it's not sad when you're that, it's... It's very human, and...

It's very human, yeah. We're a... We're trying to be implicated in the most... Yeah, it's impiqued in the plus... It's all that politics is dougent, It's a lot of people, you put it, and put it on the level of the Council of the Townsend, you know,

it's a municipal, to be the municipal, to be the municipal. Yeah, but the municipal, it's a power that is direct. You know, the municipal is interesting as a pallier governmental, the... You do with a lot of,

we're going to be quick because there's a lot. Exactly, we're going to make sure. Exactly. We have not clear. There's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of, you know,

there are things to make, you know, there's things to make, you go to negotiate with the government, you're trying to negotiate, you're trying to argumentate, so,

so I don't know, I'm sure, I'm sure, fascinating, I adore. At each time I'm doing the podcast, I feel like I'm

a bit of course. I'm going to be able to that. Niveauau on the first, I'm over there I'm going to I'm going to say,

but I'm going to turn the card. Is that is the role of parents had had an impact for you, because we have

put the question to everyone, in your life in your life in I'm like posed at two

Is it that the role of a parent has a impact for you, in our own for you,

in your family, what is, what is the gesture of tendress that's the most

what you do you do you want to be and what your and what is your

need to the intimacy? There's there's a lot of the first, I'm talking

on the same so I'm like, you know, I'm in jokes, because

you're talking, Because when you're an When you're a child, it's not It's not better, it's not It's not much, it's not It's different It's different.

It's weird we're We're doing In fact, it's true, we're doing In fact, it's It's a lot of It's a lot of, No, no, no He has found

The good moments The good moments, It's just the good moments, okay But, um, I'm, I'm open to, I'm interested,

There, that's so, it's not, that's It's not, you know, It's all, you know, we're talking, you know, we're talking, you know, we said, I get them at every day

every day. Yeah, I'll bring the other. Look, what's the what you've never ever

ever ever ever ever do? Ooh. Well, I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure.

But it's but, wait, what's we could, we're, we're we're a

sexual very ennuiate but we do you play? Well, I'd like, I'd

ask, to answer, which I'm and I'm so, and I'm to be

to be to be to be to be something what we're doing to be some

to touch to touch docement just like in the kitchen when you pass

behind the other, I caress the shoulder and I'm a little a gesture

a gesture a or a question or a many when I laugh

sometimes I'm you know he's I'm like he'll I'm

like the contact physical without that sexual but is

that you think that that it's something that's something that's something that favorize the

thing, it's a aspect more charnel. Yeah, it's so, it's like it's like,

it's always, the flame all the time light, a little like that. Exactly. I'm really,

and it's important that when we touch, it's important that there's important that there's there's touchy,

there's touchy of tendress, these touchy affective, a toucher just rappled, I'm there,

We know-beauts in gang, my amourouroo, the person that I touch affectionately, amoreously, it's you know, I like that, what is,

the gesture of tendress that's the most is these little, you do it, you know, you're going to me flatted,

you know, it's, that it's, it's important for me. Is it been able to know that? No,

because we, we've, we've got, we, we know, we're, we're, we're,

we're, A black that's a black that we're doing, is that's the only affair that's that's a matter that's a thing is that

we're doing we're always there's always we're not about in the couple, be able to be being in your

sexuality? Well, the first affair. We're connected sexually rapidly and we

we've never lost, and we've never last in the way we're doing so much your car are compatible.

Really, they all they all they've got to have really, and as I've explained also, you know, we've made the love, as well, we know the

sexuality, we can be very cochon, although there's a lot of our rapport sexual and amorous, you know, there's, there,

we've got, and it's true, it's so, we say, we're so much, we've got a podcast, we have a family,

we have a house, we do that. But all this is because we're all together. All right, it's because we

all right. And it's good. And is with your other partner, you're

open to have to have done in the sphere in the community? No,

it's sure that no. I'm I've got been, I'm not, I'm not been frustrated

sexually I'm, I don't I'm a a bad sexuality I'm like,

you know, I appreciate what I have, but I know, I'm, like,

as, as, as I'm, but I'm, I'm, I'm really with Tom and

we, Is it Is it good for you? And at least to say what you want to the communication

by the sexual, also it's that's easy in the departure. Really. In your

express. Exprimed your your desire, yes. Oh, yeah, very,

very easy. Really. And to introduce these, you know, in the open up

in the pleasure all the time, in the respect of the other

all the all the all the all the we We feel also that we're connected, you know, as, as, as, as, as, too,

as a lot of our values, you know, well, we're, well, but our core, he's, it's resemble, you know, so,

in the life, how it's, in our values, in how we do, how the management is made, you know, the core,

is not long. So, that's for that when we discuss, or when we can't chicaned, or we're not on something,

or we're not long, we're so, You know, sometimes the people are like, oh, you're doing different, how it's how it's so how it's so far as it's like, you know,

it's true, when I said to say to someone that I'm going to say, hey, those other, it's incredible that's incredible that that's interesting.

That's what? It's real because that's because she's, because she's, because she's, you know, Mike. Is it a couple of person?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It's a good couple. Yeah. Yeah. But, but I think that it

Yeah, I think that it comes more, I mean, it's that, he had named, He had said, when we know you know, and that we've got

your personality plus public, we're like, my, you know, what's it's like, when it's the way, we know, we do, when we know, we're, obviously, we're,

I, yeah, because, I'm, yeah, I'm, like, you know, and, you know, it's like, it's a, it's, it's a,

, it's, it's, it's, it's, a couple, , but one of, they're not, we're working, when they're sure,

you know, you know, it's just, it's true, well, well, it's, well,

I know, but it's because we're trying a million, I think, it's like if we're in the we're in so,

well, yeah, yeah, exactly. Otherwise, it's not, like it's I'm going to see that.

I'm not sure. Let's go ahead. Let's, let's, I'm on occupy. But, yeah, there's a

time, I'm doing, in the case, I'm in a intense, and I'm, and I'm, I'd

never with, and how you can't, and how you do you want, to do, it's, it's,

I'm, it's, You don't know that's right? Yeah, yeah, what's what you're in trying to me say, is that you

want to be in your time, perfect, eh? You know, I'd say, it's been a and you'd be in a little

to say, you know, I'm not at that, yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm like,

when you're like, when you're like, because, because, and I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I, I'm, I'm, we're, so, so, so, I'm,

so, I'm, let's let's answer, before, To what, the gesture on the gesture? I think it's a

man to try to I think it's a question, I think, when you prepare to eat, when you're doing, when you're just

that I'm to put an coffee, so I'm to ask you to the fun, these gestures that, it's a,

yeah, it's a, yeah, the people, I think, they're having gone to, the gestures, like,

yeah, I said, the gestures, yes, yes, yes, or reassurant, it's a,

it's a good synonym, so, so, yeah, it's a, also, again, very cliché

banal, more the gestures that it's just the time it's a very true very good.

I know that it's very very good when, also the gestures for the house more beautiful

beautiful, you when you make some when you when you make these more be the more

when you change how the house is made the more the more little

the more more more beautiful, the house more more more more light, the house more

more mined I think it's a good gesture. Yeah. That's

your place in common. We're all our repair and our studio our studio we're doing all the time

we're doing we're doing that's a place, you know, and as a kind of we're in the level

Eros, is that is that does it do you know not really? Not really. Even

not? But, I'm, sometimes, sometimes I do you know, yeah, we're

we're not we're trying we're trying we're trying to always we're doing to have some

fun. But, we'll let's see what the question. We'll interrom to the question. No, no, no, no, no,

but if I'm saying, is it like, is it like, you know, like, you know, like, like, you know,

like, recheted by that's, it's, it's, sometimes by a lot, it's, it's, it's, it's not the moment,

it's, not the moment, it, it's, well, I, I'm talking for me, for me, yeah,

it's a lot, sometimes, or, you know, sometimes, it's sometimes, it's not, not a time, notarious,

not a day, he's not like, he's going to be going to be he's a little like fresh, he's going to start

to get to be, he's like, he's like, he's like, I'm trying to work, and I'm really, sometimes it's just

of questions of, hey, me, it's not my during the time, because the end,

it's probably, it's, yeah, and I'm, and I'm, like, yeah, and I'm, and I'm,

and I'm just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's not vibe, you know, But I never felt that it has never

sent that he was afraid that he was but he was afraid but it's a moment of but it's really also

because at the podcast we're we're also we're also so it's the fun sometimes we're

we're in the we're in the we're talking in podcast and I'm named often on podcast to say

to say to do To be the other, it's true, it's that I'm

quite, he had the problem, he had the question of the time, I mean,

I'm, I'm, I'm, it's not obliged to be the time, the great bays,

you know, it can, it can be tranquil, we're we're just we, we know,

and the day, the day, the day, you know, they're, he was, they're like,

the time people, they're doing, I'm, you're a thing, there, the,

the, the grand performance. I mean, you know, today, I'm like, you know, I'm like I feel, we're doing, we're we're doing, we're doing, today, it's a pretty

bit, it's great, it's amazing, that's a great, it's a general, or, I don't know in the context, but there's a couple that's a couple that's touch, and

all what they're, and so, that's, it's so, it's a lot of an observation of a guy or an guy in couple that, that's sometimes, in the couple,

it's just, it's just, just, just, it's masturbate a bit one-code- one-cold, and it's sufficient,

and I thought that's a good it's a good I think it's a couple who's like who's who are in

it's not just the connoctal it's not just you know, hey, I'm going to be blew up we're doing,

we're trying to no, you know, it's really, you know, also we're super over to you know, we can't

be masturbate everyone, we can't be able we can have a sexuality at so sometimes.

And when I'm when I'm saying it's, it's like, I'm sure, I'm could be it with him,

because, you know, the masturbation, you're tranquil, it's, you know, it's a lot, it can't be pretty soft, but I'm like, hey, we're, we're going to be, but it's an other affair with the other person. Yes, it's an other thing, and we can't conserve these moments at so, at 100%,

but I'm like, oh, we're, the joke that I do you do with, sometimes, there's, no, no, there's been there's just a few years, there, there, sometimes I'm, not to be plied in four,

not, no, no, to come, you know, I've been, you know, I'm able to be able, you're capable to have several orgasm, But I'm just if you know, an orgasm,

that's, it's a powerful, it's a point, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's,

it's fun, I adorrie, but now I'm, and so, is what you feel, that you perform?

Well, I, I, I, do, I, I'm, I,

I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, , yes, I'm,

if you're, I've, I'm, um, so, you, is, I think I'll have it

I'm doing it I like I like that I mean I mean it's really a change I'm doing this because it's

because it's mexit at a maximum it's very yeah yeah, it's sometimes

when I'm like I'm we're talking we're down and I'm I think I've done I'm

you know I'm it's like the party the party the people people people

I'm gonna I'm I think that's just that's just that's just that's just we're not

because we're not because people don't go because I'm not at the house. He's all the time common. It's all the phone. You're all in a little bit.

I like that. I like that. I like that. I like, I guess it's all right. And then, and then we're going. But, maybe, it's, maybe we're

maybe that's trying to be to see. Yeah, it's exactly. No, no, but it's just that's not, we're saying, well, to not be fatigued

tomorrow, we're , we're, we're tired of we're fatigued in mind, we're afraid to be fatigued in mind. I mean, we just, we get

the toll of the consequence, we're fatigued tomorrow. Oh, man, I'm exactly. Exactly. I'm okay. Oh, I'm sorry. And I'm sorry.

And then you're like, or your epil, he's like that. Well, he's like that. But, yeah, but Mario also, it's all fatigued now. You know,

sometimes, you know, we're doing, we like, we know how much, and I'm doing and much, my, it's a time, I'm,

I'm like the assistant in the cuisine. There, he prepares. And, there, there's two affairs. He's what he he'd neverves

is when he he'd ever, and he'd say, and you're, and, you know, rest of the car, huh?

I don't know that's it's a lot of a lot of it's a question, there's a

point in a time that's you know, it's not the calories that you manage, it's not

to say, to the people who's people, I said, we've done, we've done our

little things, we've done our little food, and then we have made that, and the Marklead

has made a crepe, she had done and she's going to get the fared and you're going to

feel to yeah, and you're that, but you're I'll call, me, not of calories. Opin lesone in your assuette, but I don't want to say.

I've been to say you. At this day. At that's a day. That's a good. That's a good. That's a lot of things. He's not content. But we're sure.

But we're saying, Mario, he's exprim. In other case, there are some of the time that he's more than it's more than it's more than with that. And, me, what I'm,

it's when we're saying, ah, well, we're, we're going to we're going to, we're going, because tomorrow, you know, we'll go to get to get a few,

we're going to get in a congey, yeah, but it's our Costco, that's our day, I'm like, no, but it's

not true, but it's not really, we're doing, we're doing it's on the carouquet in the salon, I'm, we,

we're finished the party to get, yeah, we're going to have a fun, and you're and you're going, I,

I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, and Mario, he's runned like that, so, so,

you know, we're made, one, One time that we've made like our tage principal, the food,

we're going to for the time, it's going to be in the little bit it's like, and it's like the discussion, really,

I think, between, it's like you you're trying, you're, your friends, that you're, that you're

going, that's going to say, your two things, you're saying, that you're that you're a bit of

, the millennial, we say, there's any to be able to there's there's been about, there's about,

there's of the morning. There's a lot of things. It's a lot of things. It's not a lot of time. It's like the pressure of everything. It's just at the moment present. To profit, because I think that the fatigue a little

that's calm in your head, and you're plenty with everyone. That moment that is incredible. You take a little scotch or at a pere, a tisand, it's not grave.

But resty at us my, Noel, when when I arrive the time of the Fats, I lulled do you lose these that I'm in my room, that I make in a piece that there

has not a bit of the of the habitude, for that all the world in my maison. It's your dream. But it's your dream. Florence, Rompere, it's a little bit of a She'll be happy, she's a lot. She's not an en masseurgy, it's an en masse. She's a lot of patty, it's a very much. But she's, she, we're in a common. Fah, we're not going to be it. I'm a few. I'm not, no, no, no, no. We're not, it's the series of Eliminator So, we'd Faf, we were

doing the together at the music, all the hockey, all the whole and all right, but the series are all two

years, practically. You're not I'm not my battery social, a minute I'm just,

because Steph had a bit more in a performance as a house, you know, and I'm

just like, and I'm there's a car, you know, I'll open the pot, I'm

I, I can't not, I'm not, I'm not, round, rent, rent,

rent, do the I can't you take the fridge I'm going to go in my bureau, go to say what you

want to be in my face what you for me, for me for me, if I'm, if I'm in if I'm in my cell I'm in my cell

I'm in you know, I'm like you're not there, I'm a bit more she's a well, I'm yeah, it's like

yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, it's all yeah, there's just like there's like we're there's just like there's just like

one of the one of the time it's just like super-aughtess, Catherine, she said, she said, Vardo, I said, Vard-Doh, take a vardo,

take a vase, say, come on, that. But, no, but it's it was done to go to see, Zoeh at the

first thing was the first thing, was, is, is, she was, she wanted that?

Yeah, she, she, because, she, she, she, there,

some, the, the people who are, the people, it's interesting, Lauren, Florence Lomp

Pree, our , Yes, she's sure that she has She's good choice In her story She's good Yeah, she's

Yeah, she's comely, she's narrated, she's She's, She's, she's She's, She had a friend Fraluch at the house,

well, I'm I'm so much Favrelusch Yeah, she's always, she's always She said, she wrote

the chasse gallery for four years. Wow. At every Cammie, Chathes Garee The Chast Gallery. Yeah,

my, my, my my children, they're 20, 29, 26, 23, and it's three festif,

they're they're so I've never given that when we're even even even even even on the

time we're just going to get to see a couple of people we're just receiving oh, well we're going to go yeah, we're going to

finally they're all there, it's very rare that we're and we're all if they're very rare to the family

you're at table and you you know, you know, you know, you know, you're in the best

value that I know the community. The last question. Ooh! The question opto-rezo.

When you you look in as an Cameroo. What you do do you do with your

Oh, it's beau? I'm it's very neseo but I think I'm

very so I'm so that our couple function, it's at the level

animal, I love that a joke that I do you do that I'm

that I work so often I'm very because I have over access to the

you know you're not you see the because he's on that's on I'm I'm

and I'm content. Oh, yeah, I think I think it I think it's quite as you're gay non-binary,

even if you your sexuality your partner or your partner, I want to that it's that's always

that's sometimes I know, what I'm what I like what I like what I'm that's just

I mean we're saying but yeah, yeah, I'm very more, I'm just

I'm just I'm my but is you know, is more than you know, is it,

more than you're Okay, you're at a maximum in fact of time. Sometimes I detest these values. Okay. In your case, Stephanie? Well, just rebondy on what you just rebondy on what I just

to say, at which I'm chancey, it's because I feel that my chumme me truly. You know, I think that's important to it's not to be, and I feel that, and for for real, it's,

and he's been able to, he's got to have to cucket all new at four pat, and I know, he's there, You know, you say, if you're She's been a Belle, there

I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm in, but you know, I think, I think, I'm trying to to find out of

me, I'm making be able, me feel like, you know, but I'm know, I'm being in pitch,

and I can't be a night of the day, and there's there's plenty of people who know, who can't

be able to see, no, but no, but don't know, but there's, there's, there's,

there's, there's, there's, a lady, a liegery, a, I understand. But, you know, I think, I think, I think, I'm...

You know, I mean, my first chum, there's always, I'd have me to be made make makey, like, he's making me make sure. And I'm not, I'm not sure. I'm trying to be young, too, you know, you know, I'm with a guy who's disoombed, who I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm saying, and he's...

And he's... I'm... I'm... I'm... I'm... I'm... I'm so... I'm sure...

...I'm sorry, me... I like I'm going to be at the end up of the quarantine to know that my chum me really sure

I'm really I'm really I think that I'm really nice and I'm reversely I love your be able to

I'm often I love your I love your but I love your and I'm your and I'm not just

I'm just, I'm fatigued yeah I'm yeah the yeah the there's your there's a life

in these eyes you have his emotions in these your, I like that. I like that. Your eyes he raconte

these years. It's extraordinary to you receive. Really? Thank you. It's an honor to be there.

It's a good. We love We love. We love. We love. We're like, but we have, we've

we've seen other things today. And really, you're able to have in your respect mutual, in your

in your because you are not cut up, you, you you're listening we're we're looking

that. We're we're doing that. We're We're doing jokes on the other day... In other podcast, you're also like in show, you know, you're... It's just to find out.

I mean, what I like to goopoeuvre, is when I'm saying, you know, I get a day, you know, I get a couple of years, and I'm madge, and I'm amuse. It's a lot of... You're creating the atmosphere. We're going to do you.

We're saying, we're talking... Today, I've got to be the two individuals, you know, I've got to... You know, in a lot of context. But, in the fact, it's what you're what you're supposed, we're doing this, we're saying,

oh, we're on the word! I'm, I've been prepared some of it. We've got to stop. These gross jokes. Hey, well, thank you. I mean,

my own, I'm afraid like an expression. And long time on my telephone, it was a name. It's not

written, Stephanie Vanne that's the woman, and at the time, at the time, it was an

time of course, we'd ask them, and I'm going to find out of Steph, and I'd be the phone.

It's not everyone who tried to that's not, yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not

that's because of you know, because of we're talking yeah, yeah, thank you

very, it's been a really, it's a honor, a pleasure, to be reaffer to be sure to you understand,

it's good to talk to your love, of what you share, thank you much, thank you.

Thank you for your pleasure, thank you thank you thank you thank you everybody.

Thank you this episode was presented by Karin Jonka the reference in matters of the for the care

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