Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #165 - Marie-Claude Savard | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

J’ai eu la chance de l’interviewer à quelques reprises, et elle a toujours un regard réfléchi sur l’ensemble de sa vie. Ouvre ton jeu ne fait pas exception. Elle nous partage ses introspections, ses souhaits, les choix difficiles qu’elle a dû faire, ainsi que son amour pour la vie.Rencontre avec une femme assumée qui, pour la première fois de sa vie, accepterait que l’on prenne soin d’elle. Tout au long de cet épisode, on comprend qu’elle traverse une période charnière.Marie-Claude est particulièrement touchante dans sa vérité.━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barrette⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Visitez mon site web :⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.marie-claude.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel..━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:19:41 Cartes vertes00:48:09 Cartes jaunes01:27:00 Cartes rouges01:46:20 Cartes Éros01:54:42 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.karinejoncas.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merci à Opto-Réseau, partenaire d'Ouvre ton jeu. Visitez le⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.opto-reseau.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ pour prendre rendez-vous dans l'une de leurs 86 cliniques indépendantes.Spa Eastman est un lieu de ressourcement et d’expertise unique au Québec, est situé dans les Cantons-de-l’Est. Cette destination bien-être en nature tout-inclus vous guide, grâce à ses experts, de l’intention à l’action. Pour en savoir plus:⁠ ⁠⁠https://⁠⁠spa-eastman.com⁠Découvrez la nouvelle collection MarieClub : Espace mieux-être et Ouvre ton jeu de notre boutique en ligne. Une sélection inspirante pensée pour vous accompagner dans votre quotidien.✨ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://boutique.marie-claude.com/⁠

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not used to be a friend, I'm not to be to compare to the regard of an

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there's my person, so the regard of other is arrived more

in my life. But, we'd say that to not have had been in my

infance, to not me question on what someone about what really, it's

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all the regard, the other I interest, car and I like that to know what the people

think, but he change never fundamentally my opinion of my own own my own my decisions

no more. I'm going to bring some of the people, I'll respect to the people

do you know, I'm really, I don't say we're a front of be or a

manner to function that that I know I'm all the all the

time. It's not always but I'm not but I'm in the time it's that you guard your

power. Yes. It's not the world exterior that arrive. No. So the

comments that you read on the social, it's not you know, I mean, it's, you

get, it's, it's it's, it makes, that sometimes I mean, there's a lot of

violence in life. You know, I'm also, I'm still, there's there can't someone

somewhere, there's somewhere, there's to me call this a cut in the face,

I'm not insensible to that. It's not impermeable. But, no. But it's not in the sense of, I think not that's me that, or that I'm married, or that's valid. It's sure that it's happened, let's...

Sometimes, I'll say, okay, if I see that it's a few hundred persons, that their tombe cainer, well, I'm saying, now, it's a lot of... It's not an opinion of the record of it. It's right, but it's... Yeah, so. There's also there's a lot there. It's not

all the world who is right, and it's why you're right. When you know, when there's a number impressionant of people who pass the same commenter, I'm saying, okay, perhaps I'd have to be talking to that for a little boot, they're standing. It's like if you're deconstructed alone, in the front.

Is it your parents had a regard on to you? Yes, very far. My father is extremely fierce, and my mother is in competition with me. So, I've vizue that, you know,

so, but, and, you know, it's, you know, it's something that comes to tinted, so that I've had had, you, it's, you, it's, you,

it's, it's, that's always I'm my femininity, I'm, because the relationship with my mother

was a little, but you're to get used to get to that at a age, you know, that your

time is in competition with you? Recently, in fact, recently. I know, I was always

there was a relationship carabin and complicated with her and I'm and I'm to the

time, and I'm, and I'm, with my name, Jeanette, we're in there's in

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her time she's all the time the place that you bring, you know, she, or she said

to be the right of the right. Yes, is that, is it affected at this point that's affected

in your appearance? Well, in fact, I'm, I'm very good for contextualize,

explain, pardon, you know, to not, let's say, maybe, someone will be in

a bad, well, yeah, but when my mother did some that, she,

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she, it's, her own performance

at my place. But you realize that that's a kind of to get to have the effect

to get to have the effect second of the fact, yeah, absolutely. But, you know, it's,

it's a construed the family that I'm today, and I think, I think that it

will give a higher experience to charlotte with her so, you know, but I've

passed a good in my quarantine to really just being after my

my mother. There had had to be a far shaman and to say, because you have put

conscious of that. Yeah. And what's that, what's that has changed in your

to have a mother like that? It's in fact, I've been, in fact,

I've lived in my life, and I think that I'm not felt validated,

I think that it made, it's, it's, it's, it's not given the

good tools to be able to be an good relationship, what's

is a a good nice relationship. When your relationship of base, it's a bit toxic,

well, you reproduce that in your life because you're comfortable in that. But today, but

today, you know, you pass at the people, you have not, who has been to be able to

get to get to with this story that. And, today, I can say, when the

time, when the time, you're there's a photo of my mom, in my house, and that's

I'm I'm I'm going to talk to there's a grandmair, Louise. that I'd have been not made a lot of you know, it's not, you know, it's been part of conscience, I think,

to, you know, to, and, you know, and, and, you know, and, and, you know, and, and, you know, that my mother is put, no more, no, so, the story, it's to have to be in the but to continue at the interior of you know,

it's a time of a time of the time you know, it's a little that's able to get to be able to something?

Well, completely because the question, at the base, was, what importance

to you regard of the other, when you come to a depart like that, you're so

totally that's totally made face to the fact, that the regard of your

mother was doing your so, so today, it's has made me a bibit

that's very adapted to the reality actual, to be bombarded to regard of the other

not that's not that's I'm very flexible I'm not I think not I think that I'm think that's

has you a impact? You think on your type of attachment? Oh, yes,

it's all an impact on our title. I think today I'm an attachment sin, but it

really it's really I've really worked on my type of attachment. I have an attachment

anxio I have all the symptoms of that and the fact of the fact of the thing,

that's a car is a road not more to make a decision the the

problems intergenerational my mother had some mother, and there had some

and then you say okay it's assed it's finished to it's finished to you

it's already you have already I've really condensed this that's because I've

not the good to transmit, but maybe it's maybe it's maybe but it's

because you have made your work, you know, you know, you've done what you're to go to

get to you, because you because you don't because you don't, it's like

that it change the don't for the way. Yeah, and I realized

that I had, at the entire to me that I had been

so I'm this sentiment of injustice, we've not done what I'm He had a moment that I'd say,

but I'll say, but I'll get it. So, at a part to that, we'll let's that after. Is that your

point of that? Yeah, and that's been the other affair, is that he's a lot of that's a

problem, and he had a pot of escampette. He's parted. And when, my own, my dad,

he's been sober in the last years of his life, and he's really, he's been a growing

incredible, and I said, hey, I said, I said, you know, it's cliqued, you clack,

and you're partied, and I'm, and I'm trying in his face, yeah. I've made this way, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, and it's, and it's a great, because it's so,

I'm telling too, I'm talking about to the old, I'm doing, you have done, so,

you know, with a man who that made to get to get to to get to ,

but when you , you know, but when you you'd feel in this house? Yeah, I'm sure.

I think I'm after to build the same I'm trying, you know, I'm sure, I'm in my

time, you know, but the people sometimes it's like, you know, I'm in my head. You know, when I can

get to go to get in, then, you know, and I'm assort and just to be in my head, there's there's not

there's not there's not person who has been in a video, I'm not a life to do have to

do anything, and I'm just to go to go, I'm just to Plain of True. I'm fine.

I'm very. That's it's over. Well, yeah. F'clock, you know, I was like,

I'm used with all sorts of lectures. You know, I was like, I mean, I was in a bad,

like I was in fact, I was, I was thinking, I was like, I was the biography of Churchill. You know,

like, how much, that don't be, the, what's, that's so, don't,

then, I'm, but I'm, but I'm in the soul, I'm, so,

so, so, to you know, I've got to look, and he's cool. You know, he's cool. I'm not. But he's cool. Yeah, but there's

a lot of you. Yeah. At the interior of your parkour. It's that. I'm saying when you talk to that.

Well, I'm not vis-a-vis. It's not. I've not been to that. For that, I'd say, I'd talk to you

talk about you. It's like, it's like, you know, it's like you thought you to think I'm accroche to

that, and I think it's for that I've I've been created these times I'm

like I'm asking I'm saying what he can push someone like he's like a 38 years

to make a life you know you're still you know you're doing you know my

friend to have finished to have your but it's like it was just just

be to the sort of for that it exists because there have not had

not there there there and that it's that you have

done that you're After that, you have the comments of other person, you know, it's like you don't know your story, you can't hear of the story, you can't hear of the story, you probably that's the problem that's about, you know,

my family. Oh. Carrema. You know, when I've launched an orphan, the people, you know, like, I've done. Again, today, I've got to meet, and they've got this eland-law

to me, you know, like, it's our marriage, close. Yeah, because you've had been very vulnerability also, at the story, that. Yeah.

Because you've been an orphaned, young, and rapidly. Yeah, and I didn't, don't, you, the people realized not, it's like, orphaned, okay, you're , you're playing, I'm going to,

because I'm not a friend, not the cousin, not a grandparent. I'm not sure, that, all the world in a matter, all right, when I was trying to that, where I started the

, and I had asked, it's what, to not have to be able to a part of attach, and I'm saying, but I'm, you could not have to anything, you know,

in the sense that, at this moment, I had not an child, I, conjoint, you know, like, parted at 9th, I went ahead of my house, I had lost my job, and I had no more family, and it was like a moment

in the time, I remember, I was sitting at the plateau, and I said, I can't well do you know? You know, I've got no impact on person. Have you been able? Now, yes, but they're not solid. Your racine, it's your

children, it's... Yeah, it's... Yeah, I think that, my racine, it's so. And, and in the same time, I'm just, but... I'm bohem, you know, I could partier and

me on all over. In this moment, my house is a reason, you know, in the place

I'm in the moment, I'm in this car that with the same thing, it's new that's just two years in

guard partaged, you know, I'm, well, I'm, there's a there's a lot,

there's a there's a time, there's a lot, but it's, it's a deuce, you know, you know,

you know, you know, it's something that you have that you have you're, that, that,

How we say that? You know what you're... You know what you're... Yeah, it's a chaminant, that, you know, it's something that you're that's a bit of and your parents

it's an encrage also, I imagine. But, so... Tellment. It's your family. But, yeah,

it's like, I can't say, I've never had ever had this connection that, I'm

you know? It's the first time that I've had this connection that, complete. You know,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, inconditional.

It's a guiried. You know, it's like an immense, I don't know to explain that, but

really, something that comes to get to be to get the the bloods completely. I'll

choose to say my question. Okay, go see. One of the minute. Well, I think

that I think I think you do a suite of what you can do you. What? All right.

The amitia, it's very, very fundamental and important for me. I don't have been a lot of my infance

because we're all all the time so I'm all the whole time in the new school and today my friends when my parents

are dead like there's a family, you know, you have like the range of honor of my chum of

of the family who with me and you know you know you know, you know, you know

I'm still the still the floor of your son family I'm in my family was a lot of

my family, it's it's a priority in my life. It's important. It's a lot. I'm very connections. My friends, it's a life at the mouth.

You're fidele in amity? I'm fidell in amity, but I'm realist also. It's so it's so it's a lot of my time. I'm not, I'm not not quite a minute

but sometimes I can let put it on pause. So, you know, I'd say, I'd say, I'd like a nooye d'noddure that, after that you have some

of these affairs satellite that's the same. But when I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm trying to get to get to it's a pause

difficult, we're there's a lot of there, I'm not just tassed but if you're in the trouble my friends say it's always

if you're a bad luck you're doing someone to get a night, I'm with a tapy we'll be

to get a there, we're there's nothing in my end uproves in amity there, you can be

to say anything, you can be I'm just The friends that who are going to be in these

affairs so much they're going always be able to be able to get to be never, never to

whatever that's I'm a great capacity to accept the other, you know, and more you've done to do that

yeah, I've known that also, demenaging a lot, and I, I've

had, I've had been much of the sure adaptation and the difficulties ofattachment.

In fact, a great to facilitate to me detachers? Ah, well, I'm sorry. I'm not a... It's not... It's not... The attachment, it's

the detachment. Yeah. Which it was... Because I'd continue with what you were in avant, because to train, you know, I'd say,

and at the time, there was not the... I'd say, it was too hard, it was hard, the separations. So, so, when an in a year, you, you'd learn to

to, you'd learn to to me attach, and not, just me detachy, and, you know, always, is what the other want to be,

there's not a lot of power, you It's the real because we're doing because we're the same

when you know when you know, you know, you finish that you mean that you mean the

you know, you know, you know, you know, you're impregn of the other, and I

think that when you're in a new school, it's a little that, you know, when I

get to I can't, I can't I'm I'm all the whole all

I see. It's like, and after I'm position, okay, that,

so, But it's like it's like a scan. I see all the time. At who I have to do with, if I can make confidence or not confidence. And you're right, I'm just I'm detached very easily. It's what he's surprised

of my separation of family. Because, you know, I mean, I feel like in my life I've never had to pan of them. But it's tough to say, not that I'm not going to. I'm not going to be. It's a minute.

It's finito. You're ready to other things. Absolutely. Ah, but I'm sure that's not done of demenagement, this affair, I tell you it's a lot of

an impact in a life incredible. And you're today, me to know, well, today,

when we're parted at the Riviera Dulu in 2009, my, my friends, my,

my family, my, my, we're still, you know, you're at four hours of River

Dulu, but I've always I've got so, because we're that I'm in my

mode, I demenage, I'm repor, but no, we're not, we're not, we're

not, when I'm, you know, when I was, when I was young in the primary, I've made 14

schools at the primary. You know, it's impossible to add to that you know, you know, but it's

that's not, it's quite, it's easy for her, but it's easy at the level academic, but when

you look, the impact when I'm made all the impression of having been a lot in my

head also. And I read, I've used, I've used, that's that it's all the

books. You've been to come to get to some, I'm going to the same leaf, that it's it's a certain

so, so I think we've seen found, we're trying that's in the amy, but after the friends,

after that, the family, they're doing, they're doing, my racine, my, my, I'm trying, when we're

there, I'm saying, after three years, Marquille, oh, we're, we're doing we're going to do, we're going to get an

other house, or, well, we, we're in a house at Kakuna, why, why we're going to make sure,

we're going to Yeah. And then, well, I'm like, but it's a like, but it's

okay, so it's okay, so we're really that we're still here, we're going to change at

the same, you know, you know, and after that I'm living in living in a village it's like my racine,

I accepted to have some of the racine but it's the force of group, it's the

constance and I thought that the constance, and I'm trying, you know, you know,

the constance, mouvre at my vulnerability, what had always been when it had always been from the because you have more

you know, it's a plus of before your life to do you know, it's a lot of time. It's not, you know, it's not, you know, it's not, you know, it's not really, you know, it's been a lot of time. It's been to be able to be granders. So, you know, I realize, at what it's been made in my own sense. Because, you know, it's a little like you're doing, you know, when you're doing, you know, when I'm in my I think I've a friend I'm a it's like

it's the sole the same of all I'm in it's like it's like yeah I'm

yeah I'm yeah I'm like a but I'm not even not even not much because we

have to get that when my friend had to the because he there's a

impact but I'm not I'm in when I'm there's a many people people who have been

there people who have never to that. I'm not sure. I'm talking to

a few military that that's promen to the world in the base military,

I've never to think of that I'm trying I'm not fockee, I'm like a effect secondair I'm just

it's more a effect secondary to do that. Yeah, and you know, that's that's a

thing that you're able to survive, and it's like a minute you need to get to do it but it

has been after that in a life where you're there's not because I'm say to what?

I mean, I've been done to do you know, in the age adult, the way, to see, and buy, you know, and buy,

you know, and stuff, flip, it's been my life for a long time. And then we've got

an house at the beginning of our relation, let's say, let's 2012, 2013, and we've had been to

that, and when we were, we're just a new, the issue, the reason, and I'm

sure that's all right, so, so, I'm able to I'm I'm able to I'm afraid

it's the story of my life, it's the story of I'm in the whole of the I'm going to you're in the

little cockon because I'm able and I'm going to a little house and I have got

and I'm that a moment of a time when John Martin has said I think I'm I'm going to

I'm I'm going to I'm put bad and I'm in the same to pass to all the other

thing you've never seen a part to car car car of her house of location, to go, to get in the

road, I'm going to get to get to get to it, but I'm too chere, but I've been to try to, I've been creative

like that's not so you're not. I'm going to get to get to get to and I'm trying in the first time for the first

time of my life, I'm the impression to have some because I'm indelogable to, look, open my

show, let's open my show, but I'm just, the things have changed in the world of the

media, you know, I don't, I'm at contract, I'm at the radio, I have some of the radio, I have some I'm thinking, you know, I'm saying, I'm going to do you know, I'm talking, it's not always the case.

In fact, it's not the documentaire that we can't really rule on the art. In fact, we're actually not to buy it, we're we're being paid, but it's not there, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's a

same, it's, it's, it's a way, it's been complicated. And, you know, I'm trying with all this charge there, and all the world, to tell you, Mark, Claude, in the two days, You know, van la don't.

Voyon don't. You know, you know, you're not too of responsibility. I don't know, how you'll explain, the girl who has demanaged, let's talk about

my age adult, probably about 24. Let's go, all the things that I said, no, I've got two feet of,

no. So, I've got to a place. You know, you've found a place, it's true.

It's a vote of the art, it's a anchorage so much important. I think to be being in

your own it's a pain interior when you know when you're when you're to come to if you're

to do you know and it's at your name and you know the family you like you love but I'm

I'm content of that I'm sure I'm not the same I'm not you know how many

people people are in all to do you want to the house family that you

make you the money you do you my it's not just the the house it's my

voicein Steve, it's my my voicein Vincent, it's the other in the other in the world who is there

this community who has seen who we've seen the people who have seen the that's been having been

that's you've been that you never seen that's just I'm repose the question

I'm saying you're you're just you're you're there's because you know

what you're what you're what you're what you're like you the people you've seen your voice

your voice you know, you see, you know, you know, you know, I'm always to remember,

I'm going to choose to find out of the painting for the house, you know, it's not long time that I was in

the Basin-Lorah to the quaint, and then I see, I look, the little things of the color of

painture, and the monsieur of the cancari he's part with the valise, with the valise,

with the valise, with the valise, you know, with the Chon-Coh, who has all, all,

all the colors, you'll go, you'll go, I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to be confident, you know, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm going to do, I'm going to buy with the tapie. And I'm going to have to be

with the carpet, and the lady of the boutique of deco, she, well, the key, I said, well, I'm going to go, they're saying, to go, they're saying, okay, but there's a confidence, and the

confidence, you want to that's trying, because, you know, I'll say, that, if it's that, if it's It's all the contrary that's that's going to be in

a village, and it's so that that's a lot of, I can't understand to get to be able to because you, you know, you never knew that.

No, and I'm feeling, you know, my cousin, your car, your way, a bad, the road, ding, a text, you know,

my cousin, who's, I've re-firmed your barriard, you've already, you've got to have seen, you know,

I've got to get your , you know, I've got to, you know, there's a, my God, it's done,

in veilsant, It's happened to people. We say, we're going to have your party all the time you know, you know,

because I'm all the time I'm doing the time I'm doing this my wife, all the world, everyone promos of the chien, I'm coming,

and we're doing, and again, not more than, when it's going to be the first June we're doing the party, I'm saying,

I'm going to my part, text me and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been to try to yeah,

I'm not, I'm not to be barassing. I'm trying to do you, and you know, And you've got your house, so it's

It's been It's been Two times She's over She's over I'm trying to I'm trying to Yeah, but I'm

It's always Yeah, never I'm Never, I'm Never, I'm Maybe it's Mayerone, yeah,

Pover courtee, I'm excused, I'm sorry, Let's get Mavis, let's come visit, see, they're gonna

And, And then, and then, And then, and then, I said, I'm at the time to make,

because the the month to the market, we'll be how it's, it's gonna be So, when I retire, I'm going to try, after that, I try to

try to put in the market. Oh, no, poor courtier. Now, it's arming put you, that's not. I'm going to say, so I'm going to say, so you're going to be able to visit the house of Marclott. They're going to do you.

That's funny, it's at all right. Oh, I'm going to see, all the visit, it's at the same. I should have a bad mood. But then you'd be, it would be that it would be, I Yeah, I don't know how I'm going to out of this place, Markle?

Because I said, a moment I'll re-affir my life, he will arrive at what? How, geographically, I have a defy geographic. It's new. I've never had a defyogic. All the one has pried for aki

that I can part to change the place, but there's not easy. Well, I think that's a need also in the life, to be able to depose these valise.

When I'm going to keep this knee, it'll have to be that's been a new because there, I'd never to be able to see it. because you've known that.

Nive, Nive, you've got to give me on four, if you're there's a time,

you can't tell you know, I'm that's a need to be there's the knee to your name of your name

I'm gonna that I'm back on that's, you know, we're in the end of the line that

we're exactly, but you have used to be to you, it's like, they're

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talk to the relation with the money. Yes, perfect. That's, it's very recent this preise of conscience that. I'm not

been educated, monetarily speaking. In my family, my mother had a situation monetary difficult.

My father, he was a realisator Radio Canada, he had these gross years, but he'd He'd spend all the time

the great the great train of life, you know, so that so it's that's a lot of

it's not much of so it's like it's like it's like it's like I've never wanted to hear

it's there there'll be there'll there'll there's there's I've done enormously

support you know I've made my my mother when she's never

even me question there on sometimes I'm very well my life.

I had had been more than their life. We're going to pay for all. I'm going to give the money to

compensate certain affairs, to try to be to be the other. And I've always acted like if it's not the money.

We don't we're not we're not we're not we're doing my separation I've been conscious,

I've made I've got not developed my patrimon. I'm I'm not aged with

the money, I've not respected the I don't understand, you understand. I'm not considered

adequately. And it's that I've launched my company to college if it's a concourse of a circumstance,

there's a person who's a woman who you're doing you're doing because I can say I'm going to say I'm not

that's not the budget of the company, it's a risk of someone who that I didn't know, no, it's simply that

you've not put attention to that Because if you put attention, it's certain, with all the comportment erratic that you've got used,

that you're still still, even able to be that you're really able to get to get it. My relation has completely

changed with the money today. I'm going, I'm at the fact of my affairs, I'm negotiating with the

fornecerer, I'm negotiating in tamarwet and I don't melange the emotions, the value human with the

money. I've got now, it's quite just a facilitator. Not, No, no.

And, you know, if it's my recompense for the work that I've done, it's a me. It's not to the and I'm not to get to be

to get a while to have. And there's a chance because when I started, when I found my company, the people say, yeah, it's

going to come to come to get to do this affairs. I've remarked at what the

money is a subject to be a taboo and, and especially the family. It's who

finance, who finance the company? Oh, yes, you're made put to

put this question there. Mill the few who is behind your company?

I'm behind my company. I'd say that I'm a contable very anxious with a

company with a market with a top. It's that that's that's the behind my

company. But who you've done the money? Well, the BDC and I

see, I made my house in guarantee. And I tell you I, it's really

that I'm really that I'm even at the people probably to me yeah

who's who's who did you the push for that you part? And, you know, you

do you say, I'm not sufficient. No, it's a lot of this, I'm so I've never

realized how we'd not, we would be, you know, that a man, he's found

his company, he will be, we know, we've never? Well, no. And it's

really, in the case it's been a surprise for me this, that, and,

you know, And so, not more than to a meeting for a project of leave by the and then they

they're saying, yeah, but there, MCS, you're accompanied? Yeah, it's my company? But who

he's , who is proprietor? It's me. It's like, so I'm, so I'm just found out that

I don't know there's there, there's a question. Well, you know, even if humano, I'm just president that, you know,

I'm a associate but I'm I was president of the manoe. And at a moment of a moment of the day, I'd try to find out of where I'd call it, and I'd say that there's a partonear

who'd say, well, I'd like that to talk to your superior. I said, but there no, but you're not, there's with me? No, but we're

talking, you know, I don't know, I'm not, I'm not to, I'd be not to talk, you, to know how much it's to know, but I said,

that's with me, that, there's not, there's not, there's not. And it's, and it's, I had putt an idea to discuss

to understand I'm sure I'm like to I'm not at you're not at I'm not I'm not there's a lot of

there's a there's like that you're like it's special you know, I'm also I love to negotiate,

I'm sorry about to talk about because I'm not an agent because I'm not I've got to yeah

now, right now I'm trying to maybe that's perfect but I'm but I've already you know in the last

years in radio I've negotiated my salary. It's me the vis-a-vis. And it's it's terrible. It's horrible to see the person to tortilla on his chaise

incapable to deal with the fact that we'll talk of our job and I'm saying, I've got to the argument, and I want to have a vis-a-vis also far.

I'm a little like I'm here I mean to respond to some, I'm present, I'm there. I'm there. I'm I'm at the same when I negotiate. So,

I'm going to start my arguments. Now, out of my your arguments. I'm sorry to see how

to see, I'm a point, yeah, I'm a little not-a-a- because we're about it, and you're

to be more than I, to talk about my performance? I'm not. Yeah, but, you, it's because

it's because it's got our relation personal, well, no, because if your business,

it will gachach it, it's for that I'm a agent because that it

braced in the discussion that a moment a moment of a point of it's like,

it was like a form, I don't know to be, to be, there's there,

there was there was, yeah, who came to be who came, I'm,

I'm trying, I'm not capable to be able to be tamised all, it's like

in the platform, you know, I, you know, I'm not accept that you,

I'm, But it's correct, also, you know, I've been trying to petted some of the coches solid in the bureau of the patrons. I'm reconnoed for that. Reconnew, clack the port,

you know, I'm going to, and I mean, there's a changement, you know, we're brass the affairs, and then finally, well,

you know, we've got redistribue the budget, so, that, you know, finally, you're going to change of course of hour, and there was like

a diminution of salary, you know, and I was saying, it's arrived at plenty of people in the enterprise, and I'm the only, who has said,

let's find out, see, and I'm sure, I'm not sure, let's make let's me verify the legality

of the thing and I'm saying, I'm going to fight-to like you know, I'm having seen someone

for that, and I'm going to be my colleagues what's the past, it's not that's what you

know, you know, I'm trying. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm doing,

I'm doing, I'm a man monoparental, okay, I'm on the cord of, the same, I'm,

I'm not the way to deal with the inconsistence by a part of my work.

It's a surprise all the month. I'm going to get to do you this is a thing, that's not, it's not

these things. It's not people, you know, I know what I know what I'm doing, I'm so we're doing, so we're doing,

and I'm talking, Mark Claude, it's really provoked a tsunami because we don't know these things

and, you know, I, a lot of reportage on the money on the time when the league of the hockey have decided to

devoling their salary and to to be able to their duty. I think that in our industry would have a moment to know that there's

more transparency. I had a close that I had not the right to my salary. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because I want to

I'm just because I'm saying sometimes we're in the women is that it's an equity? It's not the equity.

You know, I said, I'm not the equity, but I said, you know, it's all to say, Because, you know, it's for that I fighted

a lot of, I said, I'm saying, I'm saying, we'll say, we're not based on a revenue on the sex, it's on. It's on what you're apport, your experience, your competence, your raeonement, your capacity to learn, you know, your capacity to deliver what you're in a far.

There's a lot, you know, I'm like, you know, determine my valor, it's important. And you can't be not me diminue, No, and, you know, and you know, Vien with that Lage? Yes. You know,

Vien with that the followers? Now, yes. Vien with that a ton of factor around that you don't have

the bonus that they're with, but you have the contrecoup. You, it's to

mean, I'm just I'm in a situation where, you know, you know, you're

you're rendered at the pageette payante, that's, that's the term of the

patrons, because the code of the code are determined by pageette. If it's the people who who pours

it's a end of the pageette payante. At the time your match. Yeah, yeah.

And I'm I was working a man who had 10 10% more than more. I've made so I'm at

the end of the pageette paying. Okay. It's correct, I'm trying, if you if you want

delay your value, and you want to deal with the boss and you need to and negotiate,

it's the game. So, I've done perfect. So, this step that of my life

to try at its at its end. You know, you can't look at a game. Okay, I'm on, okay, I'm going to okay, I'm ready, okay, I'm ready to make a menacek. We'll be signer up a contract at a gross fray. I'm run, but I'm going to get a good run, and I've got to get to check the Cup Stanley, but I'm

in front of butt of that. So, I'm going to make sense, and I've made, perfect, Mark Lowe, you know, gregers your affairs, you're at all right, you're at all right, it's hard, you know, because you're plenty of experience, there's still plenty of

to contribute you can't but you're always to be able to get to be able to you're able to your

pay for you do that's because I'm because I'm because I'm not going to get to be able to get to

my salary I've got to wait at you're trying to I'm trying to pay you to pay the time the cost of

the cost of the inflation can't do you can't get to my contract I I'm really

I'm sure I'm sure I see my contract and I'm perfect A new little tour of manage, it's but it's for that

I'm doing a firm of a fair because I'm going to be able to be able to be able to see, I'm trying, I'm going to to be able to

because I think in our own our job, we've made do the money of the grand companies and when

we're not correct for on a panel then it's like it's finished and it's perfect it's just at 80, but

considering that we're living to get to 50, I don't know that we're to take our retreat at 50. No, and then,

I'm, I'm like, I'm in rebellion, against that, in fact, because it's like, you know, the age, what's the age? You know, when you

think, there, you know, there's, you know, there's, you know, that's what, when someone says, I'm, I'm not an age,

when someone says, I'm not an age, I'm, like, excuse me, pardon, you, we, we, you know,

there, but there, there, something when I think in our society,

it's for that you have to it's not because you know, when we're interviewee

or animatrice, I think our experience of our ego, I think more that more than

it's more to make the other in value, it's something of that's something

with our experience we know what the other will pass to, you there,

there's there plenty of situations that I think of a great sensibility

that I've known or I've and I've got and I'm going to and I'm going to but I'm trying to do you know, but I'm not

because I'm here in my life and I'm like disposed I'm like the charge mental you're doing, you know, I'm not quite the time so I can't

get to be in my time. And I think it's like I'm presently at my my life. And it's for that I'm

my own enterprise. But, you know, in the same time, it's we're talking we're both diversity and

inclusion, you know, of all the types of all the types of of human, and all the colors, and the textures, and all the tangents, we're,

we're both in that, and I think it's extraordinary, because it's a place to do you, but it's like the last

the last time, it's like the age. And I'm saying in an page, the age to female.

Yes, age of feminine. Yeah, and how we've had to bea to feminine. And, you know,

I'm always in the tempete, medico, botox, so that, so that, we'd say,

we'd we'd say, we're we'd say, not the of talking to to that

because, yeah, because I don't know because I'm talking about because I'm talking about

the time that's the time that's, and the time that's and what we do it, and the

thing we to continue to contribute, I think that's not only in our business,

I think there's there's there's like I have more to contribute but I

think I've put the opportunities. It's we're just an augmentation,

we're more optimal, we have more experience, and the opportunities are in decreasing. Yeah, yeah, and, you know, when I look, you know, I'm not

talking to, you know, I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm talking to everyone, to young, to the most years, to the world, at the human,

we're in the human, we're in, we're in, and then, and after that, an human, of a woman, because we know,

the tranche, I'm, I've got to, the TV, at 54 you, Well, we have a life after,

we're going to we're going to I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, for the money

that's, before it's always been the people, it's always, it's always the priority, you know, it's an other

affair. So, I'm very, to be the measure to we're in the un-of-s so,

so, you know, you're doing entrepreneur, so you're doing your business, and you're talking, and you're content,

and it's content? Oh, my Oh, my God, you've didn't how I'm content?

I'm doing I'm it's the first time in my life that's the first time I'm doing it,

I'm doing I'm always every the cause the people and you know, when you

work, it's like you're like, you're like, you're 40 years to work

at a time, and we serve the public, we're we're so public

that, so we exploit one part of our personality, after that, one other,

after that, one other. It's the first time that all the facets of my person are deployed together.

You know, it's, it's, I don't know, because I'm not, because I'm saying, it's what we

do that. And then, and you're well, you're in there. But total. Oh,

I'm also, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's,

it's, you know, it's, you know, we've made a event, there, there was,

1,000 people. You know, I'm saying, we're parted to zero, and there, there are 1,000 people all over to all over the Quebec, who came to live a day,

and I thought it was a beautiful, you know, we had a, you know, we're talking about, I said, I just, I said, I'm going to say,

I'm deployed. Exactly, we were there, with people of all the age, and at what I'm saying, but,

I'm saying, but, I'm, what I'm, it's not, it's not, it's not by tranche of age,

and by sex, and where you, it's, it's, they're in their and I think that

the force of all to do you segmented we're completely and we're very far

and we're being more far to partage our experiences to help to help to be to be

to be inspired by those who they're inspired by those some of there's

there's there I think there I'm saying that that's that's that's that's

my life personal and so I'm I think I'm I'm sure you I'm It's like

with all the experience that's and the fact we know your own and the fact it's a

thing that's something that's you've been to be used to be correct with the world, you know,

it's all new value. And there you exploit your value, you know, to give you have a negotiator

solid. I'm sorry, I'm a Mariclowe, the negotiatoris. So the question that I'm the question that I

I'm okay, what type of amortes is you? Oh, I'm so, you know,

I'm a female of a couple, I'm in couple, I'm at a couple, I,

I, I, I, I, I'm really pleasure to that. I'm an amourne

extremely invested, the fire of artifice, you know, you know, I,

I, I, don't much attention, I have some pleasure there's I can say

that's a sphere of my life where I'm really a problem I'm not really I'm trying to you know, and you know,

you know, I know, but you know, but you have always had a guy that's to have played to

be able, well. Yeah. I've had different types of relations amoe

but I them all still still still, you know, you know, I'm not the

girl who will go to saswore and revoir with regret or be eagreed of all, even the relations that have been more difficult and I just don't know that's really

like a knellant. I'm a woman I'm an amourous invested, he's in that the monogamy, the couple it's all

and still, and still, I've said, I've been I've been I've been, I've been all the musus

of patent of the couple and it and it's nothing affected you, you understand? I'm enthusiastic.

It's a nothing affect after. No, even but I'm not, I'm not, I'm not

I'm talking I'm tough, you know, and I'm there's a man who love for you we're saying

the truth, it's like, oh, but it's correct, I'm, when you look,

when you're when you're I'm accept there in it's like, I'm sure for me for the

thing, but the field of the conductor, it's you yeah, and then all the

part, the father, the father, the man, and But we're not that that's taint my affairs.

I understand that's in English, and I said, I mean, I'm in Ramosed with the guy and then after that,

you know, my father alcoholic, I've had with some people who consume. But I'm this eventale

that. I'm not a feeling. There's like a little to that. You know, there's like

something that's deployed at each time? Total. You're after to know, to know,

to tell, I'm trying to I think not, I said I thought, I never had ever really

really a great pen of the I'm not never I've never to a relationship

I'm experimented my relations I'm I'm in I'm in but I'm not say

I'm not I'm sure that I'm never feeling like that something for my next

my next chapter my next chapter my next chapter I'm I'm ready

to experimenter more profoundly a relationship and how you

do you do that? I think the fact of having an infance where there's a fact

that's my essence my heart, you know, I don't know I can't I'll call I, I'll

confie not. You know, I confie I'm in a part of me that's very very part of me he'd say that

also. We've had a part of Mary Claude but we never really had Mary Claude

at least. So, so it's that's it's because a matter that I'm

really well-construed now, you know, my farm of and I've got to get my house, I'm in the know-

the nooyal is very solid and I'm more in confidence I think I'm ready to be ready to to take a

risk. That's what does it to be vulnerable? No, I'm very vulnerable it would

be to confi to a person a party to me to be in security that

what's what's what's what? In fact it's to, to,

to, to, to do people the possibility to bring to care to be the problem.

It's not that I'm not, I'm, you know, but it's because we have not

put the time of that's when it when you were really invested,

it's when I'm going to give a permission to someone to bring to me. That's

what I'm that's what I'm never made I'm can't be difficult, because you

you're you can't so much I'm trying to sometimes in some where I'm trying to find out of

people who are not the capacity to take care of to not be able to not their demand. So you know, I'm trying.

I've chosen. So, so it's, so you know, is your is your in love? Now,

you know, not for the moment. You know, in the sense that I, I, I, have a,

I, I'm a, call like that, in the sense that I'm not in a couple, you know, but the next time

you're in a way that it's like that's like in the sense if I look because we're that's going to

take care of you know and then you have to that. And I think I'm going to I'm

to make a time to I'm able to to make to to bring to this risk that. It's an

risk immense. To you I'm so much I'm like there's like something that

there's something that there's something that you're something that's something in a state of

vigilance all the time. Yeah. But that's not reposant when No, it's not reposant It's not reposant

It's like But you're like All the time Yeah Even in couple There you're a bit of Toe And I think

If someone If someone had Walued To see All the time Our little Paturn At the

It's like Like the manager And the Pompier When someone Sapproach too of something essential, you know,

we're trying so I'm in a lot of situations where I refused to carriement that someone had not said,

that person would not do it's farroche. No, but you're farooch. T'i, I'm sure, my mother is

mort, you know, I'm just to be the sole with her at an urgency, and, you know, I was going

to informer that, she had been deced and they're part with the car, and I'm had to be

only, I'd be able person. I was home, and I left the call 48 hours

to say, I'm going to my mother to be able to be able to I'm going to be able to when I'm

going to share. You know, I'm trying. You know, I didn't this reflex that to say, hey,

come, you're not, you're trying to not a support, in fact, I'm, like,

come, like, come, when it's, you know, you know, I'm, I'm,

like, I've been, so, I'm, so, what's, if someone is,

if someone, I'm going to I don't know in fact it's like it's almost not resonating it's physical

it's like an instinct like an animal savage blessed and it's like it's imbriquet in my cellul

but recently in all the difficulties that I've used and found the enterprise that's it's an

affair of the entrepreneurship I have to demand to help and I

let's the people me to be there's it's arrived recently

of the situation where it's it's like it's like I'm going to knowy and I'm

there's a little to be able to be alone so I'm so I've been

I've been so I'm always to demand to get to the art

and the ad is coming and I had not sure to it and

it's like it has like it's like it had to come

to be In the other time, you see that it's a profoundies the relations also. And that's correct. And that's me nothing to be. But I'm not

more. But it's also let's, by example, it's these friends, let's your friends arrive in this zone.

I'm more with my amy. Well, yeah, because you open the door also,

you know, you know, to talk to your relations amoeoeoe but at your family, you

too, you know, it's often when it's that it's the, you know, because we accept the aid,

we accept the support, you, it's a little dose, but I have like the impression, you know, you see you open this door, there's something that, you'll finally be to be able to be able to breathe.

And, you know, me, people say, all the time, yeah, I'm afraid for you. There's someone for who, we don't be there to be a lot of course. But I'm not saying, I think, it would have been to be afraid. You understand? But, you're not always being

been able to, no, when you were more, when you were young? No, but it's not fundamental. It's to say, it was some the affairs that I could get at the

intern. We're going to make a metaphor like that. I think my difficulties

I've always been able to get to get to the doctor coach. Professional. It's very

transactional. Yeah. But it's to open the door to that otherman

I'm never really made really. It's there's something that I just

just that when you say that. Not right? Yeah, because I think I think I'm saying, like,

like, assume someone who who, who, who, who, he doesn't necessarily

on the other, that's not, that's, and, just that we're probably to say,

I can't be with you a bit bit, you know, it's like, she's like, she

I'm not, I'm, I think, that I'm that I'm that I'm that's that,

you know, and it's very valorized in our society that. You know, I've received many of

reconnaissance of that's, if you look, when I was in the sport, I was in this confrontation, to be totally

sole to my genre, to do you to do it, I'm fabriced for that. You know, it's not

time that I'm in the sport or that I'm full, amateur of sport, I was

consue for being a girl all alone in the vestal in the sport,

to be in the adversity and have to be organized to see. I was always for this role. And when I received it was always that's always that

she said, like she, she has had made her mark, she has not a person and you know, if you're trying

the time, you know, all the time, that's all the time. And that's, you know, I'm saying to say,

we're saying, we're not we're not for you. We're not quite for you. But,

but I, I don't that person. Well, but because I'm not so, that we'll

me they'll be like, because if you know, because if you know, but why it's not for me,

you know, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you know, I'm saying, you know, in the time

where I'm like, you know, there was there's a question that's really, you know, I'm in my chair,

and I'm saying, but you're saying, but I'm going to get my card,

and where I had done and I'm getting to be in a person, I'm an impression, I'm not,

you're not super well, do you like that you can't be able to that's like

someone who's like you're in a game video, it's like someone to give a thing to because I'm

in the car but I'm in the kit back but what I'm but it's not quite it's not quite there really

there's really felt like Mark the other that I'm probably because we project that yeah

and there there's it's really there's really it's for saying I'd I'd

probably I'm I'm a bit a help? So, and when you

know, when you know, he's over not, no, no, my am I,

my friends, it's clear, but, you know, I have some, I've got, who I have seen

in the long time, so, so, so, he, he, he,

he, they've seen, they've done, to what he had to happen,

I'll tell, I'll tell, it's, I'm, I'm a many, many, there,

sometimes there, sometimes not, And it's a bit chaotic, but I'm going to be in love, and it will always restate someone important. At a moment of a day, it's a moment of the day, I go to buy at the house familial, I'm going to have some more, okay,

the frets of changement, of this, of, that. So, the notar me envoy, you know, the detail of what he will have to reimburse, and there's a good gap, like to combly. I don't know, because I just found an enterprise, because I'm not for the year. So I've said, I've said,

so I've got to pay the same time, Yes, I had made the coat I had planned but all of course this tuit that will arrive.

I'm not not a mother to say okay, can you just mind you can't be able to the notar

in two years. So, that's like I could not I'm not I'm trying to that. Now I'm

what I'm, what I'm with that? You know, like, it's like, how I'm, how I'm,

how do you come on avert with me, I'd have been to be able to me panche to something, it's not,

I'd have been a question, it's like, I'm not well-calculed. And now I've

I'm going to help. Yes, I need to I'm so, and I'm to know,

I'm a play, that's a little bit of she's, I think, I'm going to have

to be at the house, at the fact, you know, that's, that's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's plus than 5,000

pounds, that, it's more than 10,000 pay, it, in prison, she,

she, she. She'd have been content to to do you But I'd have been to At least

At least She's not At least She's important for her. Yeah. She's She's a

contra I've had Yeah, I'm trying I'm trying I'm And I'm She said

I've said I've done Let's see Yeah, let's know But I But I think that's

So, when we When we When we When we So let's approach Yeah

it's like that that it construed these relations profound, intimate and solid but in the whole

I know these relations but you know but you know, it's like it's like if you

were still at you're you're not to go to go and I'm not progress because

I didn't never in the and still still I'm I'm I'm

vulnerable but I know I'd demand something. Tick, of the

gross I said, I don't I'm going to I'm like, wow okay so I'm past She had gone to And then to

You know, because You're doing It's sure I'm made for There's a million Of the million people But you know You never

Demanded So it's the Retour Yeah but I'm I'm all the time I'm saying You know

And there was There's been Moreport I'm more I'm more If you I'm for acquis the

affairs, and we we're a kick to do that to help, but there, to receive

well, it's like all, it's like, it's, she, she, she,

it's, she, had been back it, but, but for many,

it's more more than, to be having, that, it's,

it's, it's, my port, my port, to receive, you,

it's, it's, it's, it, it's, it, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the door that's that's I load

but the reception the door is your door to the garage that I was never over

so I'm all the time to fill the truck that you understand and you think you

don't know to see I'm not put, you know it's that you're that you're

that I'm not able to attain this objectif that it was it was it was

it was it had that someone one of another me don't know the coupons.

So we can imagine that in love it's going to do that I'm making a

question. Now it's that I'm that's a way of to do that. You know, it's like

it's that I've got that's that I'm yeah, because the other, when you

want to partage your life officially there, you know, if you have not

access to it, he can't, like your ex said, we're not not

access completely to Because everyone always said it's extremely very easy

to live with Mark Clodd because the everyday is very easy

so the enrobage of the relationship is simple and easy because

it's quite like a like a dance that I know I'm

I'm open and I'm open I'm I'm to do you have to be

laughing I'm sure I'm all the reproves you

I'm bond rapidly so But you have a new life interior that's that's

that's that's inaccessible for someone who's it's difficult to get

to get because you say, but you're there, in appearance but the fundamental

is not and the same thing, the same for me, because if me

I'm not and I don't know and I don't know that, so it has always

been these relations relatively harmonious long term, I've all the time I've always done for

I'm in it's that's a where you're there there's a investment personal

that's that you're that's that you have been I'm not I'm not I'm not

because I had been so you have your your notar the

um the demand of your you you know you've you've got

what it had I've I've had I I'm to be to be

to You say not that in my life, there's not other occasions to do do it. I think the life has made

some of the time to be where I've had been to the boot, the boot, the bottom of the barry

of the, there, not, not the choice. I'm not sure. I'm not. Okay, that's a

great changement in a life. Yeah. I think that you will live the the most beautiful

period of your life. And I think that it may to let's my because I have

I'm the impression they've got to be to see a bit of the same because they will have

a mark completely authentic who has really really really that he's

not in to be in to be in so you will be so you feel like you I feel like

I'm like something that's something that they're they're to be to a more

to a way, I'm not that I'm not much so I'm so, so so I'm

in the there was like there's like some access or these interdits that I never I didn't know

but you know you know you know and then you know you're there's that's the force with your

name is that you're just you're seeing the best of that even when you're not and I'm and I'm

I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm gonna I'm gonna at the same she's

she's acos she'll sheke she'll be sheke she made she made she made

no business to be able to debate argument Not when you're not going to be embourced not,

not, you're all you're sure to be me rembrusely, not, not, well,

the, you know, the interests or, or, you know, I'm, there's,

I've never heard to say, she, she, she, she, she said,

she, she said, she said, she said, she said, she, she, she, and a

day, I've had done, and I'm just said, ah, I've been that's,

it's, it's, it's been, it's like I'm not, I'm not really very much, thank you. It's like, I'm just, it's like, I'm that you're, like, I'm just, you know, and that's not the end of the world. You're not, and you'll see more, because

I think that you've lived long time, like, as well, you're still at the interior of you. Yeah, even ature. And then, all, you know, you're not alone, there, there's a lot, and you're there, you know, attend, you know, that, you know, that's, that profoundise Yeah, and that's, and that you merit,

that? Well, yes, you mean, I said, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, you know,

you know, you know, you know, it's true, the life, how we learn and it's a difference,

I'm, you know, I'm trying, but, but I let's return the other, yeah, so,

so, so, that's sure that your amities, are, and your life

amourous, yeah, but it's for that I'm sure, I'm gonna , I'm, some of a few years. You're

I don't know three of the Nouveau Ruge. Ah, but I want to say I'm going to I've been back to have used to

you know, I'm going to to open your I'm trying to my job, I have never about my that.

It's so it's really that, because you know, when you when you let the other assurry

when you go to it's like it's like it's like to be able to be to be able to

to be it's courageue to do that. The people who do you do the people do you do you're

not, At which point, it's a point, it's a lacheprise, that? But it's even not the lachieprice, it's, it's, you know,

sometimes you know, some of the time, you know, but it's just say, it's like, a bit like to body surfaced,

I'm let's go, I'm going. I think, it's the most great song of a love that I 've heard.

When you you're, you're fatigued, and your mouchoir in the poche, you've seen pleurie.

I mean, the first time I heard this song I went to get up to repeat 30 times. I said,

but that's it's an simplicity deserment but it's the most great song of love.

It's difficult to put his head on my hipo. Well, it's difficult when

you've not felt like you could also make, you know, when some people in your

life or experience in your life, we've done do something

that you could do it sometimes it rest impregnied. and we're even not

because after we're not even because after we're these espests of blockage or no matter it's like if we're even

I'm like it's totally in my angle more that I'm sitting I'm saying oh my my affairs are all right

my affairs are all but it's but it's a look at it's a because I'm content that that's why

I'm saying that when I look the parkour the scenario of film I'm, I'm just perfect. Because,

in plus, I'm more my parents have been in my parents, all the world, I'm doing, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, I'm not, you know, more than more more than my own own my own business,

you're my own company, you're, I'm at 6, I'm fixed, I'm all my base, my foundation is solid,

so I'm, so I'm, I'm to have, I'm, I'm, I'm a table with, and I'm

choosing to part, and at Fage capable. Yeah, that's that change to be able to

be able to be able to yeah. Nive Rowe, I'm choosing one single. What is

your your own source of insecurity? Have you neglected certain aspects of

your life? What is your relation with the death? I'll take my

relation with the death and I know, I think that my relation

with the life is probably one of one of the real relations

that I have in my life. the more me has

made renaught because a mor automatically comes with other things a more it's just a fine

it's a passage it's a well I'm I'm prevoise the mort too in

my life I'm a I'm a coppine who is dead when I'm my grandparents

to get to my father when I had two three years I've seen my year

when I see my dear dee when I'm after my parents coup on

the of the when you when you take the man of someone to get a

time when you get to in the life you know to learn to learn

to get and I'm the time, the life every day year

and every every every cell per and so I think

the man so how I say that's it's quite

that's my more my more my I always often my

children. What's what you do? The fact of the fact of the way,

the way that I'm doing it's because when he was quite, it's confused for them because the father of

my parents also had been a lot of the family, it's a matter to the liney,

so I'm like that, I'm gonna because there's there's not there, there's not there,

so I'm in color, and black, those who are part of so I'm so, I've had

like a mur of photo, and let's Charlotte, you're saying, Louise is parted in white

and white black but naturally because it's I'm not I'm in the great long time so I'm

like simply and then she she said grandmama Lucy is in black in Charlotte party

so for her it's like okay they're going and there there's a moment of she said

but you my mom when your mom when your mom you're when your time

sometimes pretty difficult but I look today it's like it's like if you're

because I've had at 44 but I'm being very at least with that Charlotte, she,

she, I mean, I think, I've written when I'm in a letter, when I'm doing a cut inaptitude

and all, and you know, to make a letter, so, so, so, so,

so, so I've been, I've written a , old, I, I've re-elect, the letter, she,

but, you want, to, like, can, , , ,

when you're going to write when you're going to in a second. I'm at a second. I'm a separate because it's a separation that I don't have to be in a

place that I'm not a good who comes but I'm the certainty that's going to pass it over. So I think I'm more

anxious and crintive than other parents. Is that I think we'd have to prepare to your parents? No, I

think it's not it's not, no, I don't, I don't, I'm having that there's a testament I'd like us

that they're to prepare at their proper more, I think it would help And he had with the allure.

Your mother, even if it's a not made, she's not made. She's not done, she had not even of the

regular, on the clear on, if it's, if it's, I've done, I've got to to put to

make the decision in the brouiard, what, you know, you, you, don't know, how it's

, it's, almost all the situations possible are explored, because I don't let to someone

to someone of the , we're not, we're not, we're, is what, I've put, the,

I've put the , That's the part of it. Yeah, I think that's that. So, I'm very prepared to my death, I'm doing dealing the death.

Have you not you're doing? No. No. Because, you know, I've seen, the cancer, the shock of cancer,

the, the suffering extreme, physical, what you know, I'm not, I'm not, to,

it's that's that's, I'm running there, I, I'm not after, but,

but you're but you're so, yeah, and you're very very well, there's

many of the people who do my God I'm trying to be able to and I'm in the person that's not

the person who's not the person that's going to be able to you know, you're going to be content to have to

the aid so it's correct and when you know, that you're that's not that's not

important, so it's sometimes I know, we're going to say, we're having the house of retrait,

with the ageism and I'm with, in time's the it will, it's true, it's that's true, you know,

and it's that's that's it's in the poverty alone, it's per is there,

is that when you're when you know, when I'm in my time, you know, and you

know, Angela, I'm, it's like, she's, that I'm realizing that my

girl, and I, and I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm not, I'm sure, I'm, you know, to be , like a stress,

like, now I'm madame, it's like another level of inquietude, you know, I adore all this,

but I think there a fear of that's a fear of, you know, the next it would be more more than the more than the

but the time, you know, sometimes I see some I've seen the parents that the children are

dead and said it's my son who is my son who is it's cool, how the children in

the disease, they're a one of a maturity exceptional there.

I don't know I think I'm in I'm in to say, to say, to say, to have

the pay in the sense that I'm saying, we're going to make a

play, I'm for a whole, the people who are really really are

really really, they're really really really, there's there's like there's like

there kind of to be maybe to be evolve. It's, it's, it's, it can't be able to keep in front of

a person who's because I'm being really fauched against the person who's not, because we're not accepted to

do you know, but there's always a part of me who it like, it's like, wow, okay. And I said, I'll see,

not in the piece of the theater. Is that the mother end deye? Is that my wife

will be the cell that, the, the, the, the, I don't know, and I'm

not, per, a second, to think to say that. And so you profite Pletement Yeah

The life With all of your Because you You know, I mean, I mean, At least, you know, I've heard, you know,

I'm back to back, you know, I feel unik and all, you know, My father I'm not I can't say subitement

because there had kind of there were but we didn't even to make to I'm coming to come to

a day, you a day, and you're born to be born to be born in some life, I'm trying to reanim, you know,

person doesn't want that, you've got to find your father, he'd have to be bush-a-bush, it's not fun. So, that's that's the time. So, that's September, my mother had a diagnostic of cancer

in phase terminal. You know, it's five years. It's five years. The day of the funeral of my mother is at the hospital. She, she, she, she, she, I had the dey of my father to get two years of proche-dance

with my mother, who had rock and roll, I was an infant unique, and because we had an relation complicated, while that I was doing the good morning. It was like...

So, like, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

and you know, and you know, and, you know, to say, that's a confidence to all the drama of the drama, and, you know,

and, you know, I told the thing, and it's to talk, but in all this drama, I can say,

there's always something in me that says, it's not a bad because the very a very

bad day is the day that you can't you can't you can't you know the notar

it's not I'm not a couple to play, it's not fundamental but the

day that you traverse the line for real you know that something that something that comes

that something that that's that's a bad and that's the

arrival of when? And the You know, you're like, it's like, because you know, after the

death of your father, have you have you the time to do? No. It's that because all right in the

approach. In the urgency, I had not, I had, I had, I had, I'm not the time to find,

and then, and it's the trauma to be, it's a true, yeah, it's a

big morceau. So, so when you say, you know, to cross the line, that's

that's a line, that's, that I'm, you know, some, you know, some, And sometimes I see, I'm not desensibilized,

I'm at one of the image of gear, I watch those affairs, I think, because I've vied that. You know, this line, that's not the same thing, because you're like,

I can't explain to ask you, you know, I'm just like, it's like, the life just like, it's like, it's all the time at the interior of you,

so it's, so, it's, maybe in, you know, sometimes the people, you know, you're rebondy because,

because I, I know I know that I can rebound because I'm not on the bedon. You know, sometimes I try to explain to their experience.

We're all a little on a trampoline when we have time, and so on that we can't be able to be

but that. But there's experience of life that's the bit of there's no there's nothing there's

that it's it's finished. And that it's very very hard. This image that of your father,

is that you have you have you that's the we can't not can't make the

We're doing the peace with that. We're doing the peace. We do the peace. We're doing the situation, the fact that he would have suffered during these years, and it was a minute, but the shock, and, you know, I can imagine

other situations, and I've been a lot of times, I can imagine certain situations, it's like a shock, too far that you're not to start to your own car. To to protect. Completely. It's like,

All you're to stop, and there's a part of that's a minute you're in a minute,

you reintegr this part of the when you're when you could be to find out of because you lived that

you've been that still at the where is where is you've found

where you have to continue? In fact, it's like you you've you've been the

human is so it's like there's like there's that's active and

that's that's to continue to to that it's just not

like that's a situation in a war, there's a bombardement all that, you know, you're not

the time, oh my God, I'm gonna no, it's like, guard, we're in a situation of

urgency, we're in advanced, and I think it's the gland urinal or the system nerve central

that's active and that makes, you know, a point, a point, a little robotized,

completely. And, and, me, it's been due to do because my mother had

been in the emergency and in the life in the And the sole place where I was relatively well

and then was at a while when I was when I was in when people said when I was the last thing I'm not,

the last thing I'm trying to I'm like I'm like, we're like we're not to understand and say

all the everybody would have really let's go let's go go ahead I'm trying but

but let's see me not my little bit my little bit of normality if you please And, you know, when I arrived at I was like, okay, you know,

talk, you know, and I'm not, and I'd say, it's completely dysfunctional. Poor Mark Cloth, you have to have been to help, she'd have to go to therapy, it would have to gare

these affairs. And today, if it's happened at a moment of my colleague of radio, Sebastian Trudel, pass on the night in the afternoon,

he's called, and I'm in a event. And, you know, I'm active in, I'm going to, it's going to, it's going to, it's going to pass

to the time. And then he said, I think I'm going to work to work. I said, I'll have to be able to. I said, I don't know if you're asking. You said, he's going to be able to say,

and then I'd say, we don't know if we're saying, well, yeah, I said, there's a bad sense if it's that he will do that. You're doing then you.

And today, I've already to really revendix for the people who live these affairs in the same. I'm like, let's get their

the way. We have not to say, to say, how to share, how to share our affairs. My mother

my mother was on the 1st the 1st the 2 morning the 2 the 2

to make and make and make and make it to make a topo in Estre at

at least and I didn't I'm saying I said I've made the choice

it's the time to come to turn in at the time at the

time it's I'm I've made the sure to be there

for 30 years consecutive to so the the day

that's decided at the moment where I had to start in the time

to do you not say, I'm not to say, I'm not to say that's symbolic

to re-com to begin with Donnie Leverke and Pascal, who there was,

I think, there was like, the it was the true, it's just

it's not, and I know, but I said, I had more more more than,

I was, it's, it's been three years that, in fact, it's four

that we've seen with the fear of the death, it's been to arrive, but the 30 last year has been able to you have really

really said, a return to something that something that's it's a thing, it's, it's not the dewee

but I think it's a way, it's we're going to we're going about a mental now and I'm

really very there because I'm talking about and I'm always say, we're to demand

to help when we're going to help when we know to help

to help people who people who is in a mode in a life or someone

who someone who who be in being in it's not the time to be

the time to you know you don't let's the there

there are a moment of a time or it's the moment to

tend the hand to tend to an hand and

every person view that differently and we have not to be to be able to judge,

and we don't, and we're not to be able to be a regent if we're in because I think there's things that's really

that's really that's a thing that's it's not so it's if you know, if you know, if someone

when you're to turn to work, it's a way, you know, you said at your repair,

but I'm in a real life, in a normality, it's sorted to do that, and when it's been terminated, I'm

I'd attended at the poor, because I had had been a depression in the adolescent, I'd be at least it's aftain how I'm afraid, how I'm

airste. I mean, it's a matter of course. I mean, I've been a time, and I've been correct,

I've been correct, and I, I've dealt the deil the dewe, and, you know, I had at the orator. You know, to go to the

lot at the prayer andre? Yeah. I had some medaise of the Frare Andre and, and it's for

that I'm that I said, do you want to do you want to be, you know, and as we're asking, you're at the visit, we're at the horatour when I was young. But if you're trying a refuge, you know, it's like you go. So, I'm going to an orator, I had to mend an ampion,

I'm going to buy some, and it's so. I'm, you're still, I return again, there's still, there's, like, the chants of Frank Andre, Clove,

yeah, and the heart, and you, that's in the same place. It's not changed my clob. I think I've I think I'm the good to return

and it's not I'm going to I'm going to there's a lot of there's a oh my dear you know, there's a

again, it's a car, it's like, there's a so, so there's so, so, I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to yeah, yeah, I'm going to you have, oh, yeah, okay, when it's

it's a very, by, so we're coming by, so we're going to see, it's varied,

after the Erosse. All right, then you're all, you're all, you're I'll give you to give it to these four, right?

Perfect. So, you've got to have you, one? What do you? To add to the intimacyity emotional in your relationship in fact,

in your relation amorous, prefer to seduire to seduire, or to do you have to say to do have seen to

have seen as 20 years? Is you comfortable in the sphere of the intimacy? But I like all these questions. Um,

you know, I'm going to go in the more evident. I, I can say a question. It's the

She prefer to sedue or do you to have seduay? Preferfer to seduette? You know, I know, the intimacyity, the sexuality, it's like, it's like, it's like,

I don't know a bad experience at the start, I know my my car, I like that, you know, that's,

and it's it's, maybe the fact that I, you know, the difficulty to connect otherman,

physically, I, it's, I'm, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so,

I'm connected, I think, I've compensed, the field of the years. So, but seduir

or to do you know, it's still, we're in a new a new thing, and it's

a new a seduction. And I think that I'm pretty little pretty little little I'm mott

I'm really the situation. I'm very always. And I have been to have

often left to choose because there's very much it's very easy to it's

in the sense that's it's very easy. And I'm very

few choiced. So, it's bizarre to say that that's when we're sedueteer,

we choose not necessarily because we seduies. The seductions is rarely selective. You're

seductor or you're not seductor? You, you, you love, you know, you're,

you're, you feel, to be pleasure, you, we want to make pleasure to the other.

I'm when the when I when I'm when I when I'm when I of seduction.

So, there, there, you have to get to be to be able to because at the moment

that, if I'm made seduier, it's me who's the one, you know, you're,

you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, and you dominate when you're,

so, so, that, you're, so, when you see, it's,

it's, in a time, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, because it's true,

because I, I had this conversation with an friend of a few years, I thought a couple of years, where I remarked that it was like

the men that they were because it's like a joke of seduction, but I was saying at what you, what moment you, what's it

is you there in, is it the people who are all the time? Yeah, because when you seduies, you seduies,

That's But in a But in a When you Sedu Is it you could You could

You're Or? No, I think I'm in Maud Seduion You're in

a mode of seduction. I'm in a seduction You don't have not the seduction You know,

it's difficult in a life, someone who Mettries not the

Cucion How you can't how you can't how

you it's it's it's it's it's it's it's

impossible to name so So, the men are there's a choice.

I'm in a mode of seduction. But it doesn't say that it's it's good for you, it's it's

it's a bit, it's a then it's so you So, then how you want? Is it

you want, is it has changed? It has forced changed. All the experiences

that I just just just that it's that's it's that,

the game of the seduction has completely changed for me. So, I'm

into a territory that's completely incoenue. The answer is I'm in a mode of seduction all of my existence,

from pretty you know, you charm, seduue for have what you want to be to be able, it's,

it's install rapidly the game of the seduction. Yeah. But, especially when you talk about

all the demenagement, there's there also. Yeah, yeah, it's sure, and it

becomes a, a competence, it becomes an adaptation the seduction, you see. So, you read the other,

you respond, you don't what's the need to understand and it's it's a little. And it's, it's even

not re-flected it's, you're in mode of seduction so, so it's a great changement.

Well, it's sure, it's sure, but, you know, I'll never not be in a mode

of seduction, that. That, it's not possible in that this day, but I think

that my rapport to the seduction change. But that's a space of my life in which I can do you know, I

have been a lot of fun to do you see, it's a lot of time at times my own over the event and

talk about there's a lot there's a lot in the partage that I'm I'm saying at the base I'm still

I'm a few party, I'm, I'm I'm just fun I'm, I get some fring, I'm at least in all these

affairs that, I'm, I'm like the things, I'm all the relations with all, I'm a base I'm a bit

like that, it's what you've been tinted, but your essence, you're in the joy. Totally. And I'm

and I'm in the essence, it's it's not, it's it's not it's never, it's camufle but it's not no,

and my friends me say, not too much, but not it's like, let's say, let's say, you know,

I'm gonna get someone, I'm gonna, and I'm gonna I'm gonna be correct, I'm gonna have been in a way.

But, you say that you're going, you say, well, you look, by example, of the

partner potential differently? No. No. It's the first time of my

life that I am, I'm, I'm, I'm, it's like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, I'm able, I'm able, she've , shoo- , shoo- shalted, you know,

but, I'm, like, I'm like, okay, whoa, you know, calm,

you, and, and, and, and, then, you know, you're,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm never really, salivateer it's just I want to

redefine my affairs for it's just because I'm going to be you know that I'm going to be in

a little time for like to like I'm like that it's like I'm I'm in a whole of my time I'm

in a second I'm just figure it and we're just figure it so I'm in this period that of my

life but it's not like Tris, sombre I'm not trying to me question no no

it's like a new adventure we're we're we're just Marklott explorat

It's that. We could say that Mark the other. So the sphere intimate, is it perhaps is that the intimacyity emotional is as simple

than the intimacy physical? I think it's a sphere in the world I'm I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the contact, you know, I'm, I'm very physical,

even with my parents, I get all the time, and they're giving, and, you know, I'm, I'm,

and I'm at least with that the proximity physical. I adore that. It's said. Yeah. Now, but that

I like your response on seduir versus to do fair seizing. Yeah, it's more tricky

we're thinking we're thinking. Yes. Yes, it's a mode. Yeah. It's, like you say,

you've got desactived your cruise control. Yeah. But it's it's right that it's a

mode in which we're in a lot of seduction, you're in a mode of seduction, you're attire. Yeah. So, is that person has been to make an effort for you seduir?

No? Because you're already seduished with the fact that your seduction has been working. Yeah. So when you

you desengaged that and that you take a recule, it's over the place to someone who will have a effort to do you,

that the job part of someone of other and not of me. Mistair. Mistair. Dernier question, Mark Lowe, the question opto-resso. If you regard the ensemble of your

parkour, what are you the more Fierre? Um, the resulta, in fact, no. The result is in the sense of the enthusiasm and the naivety that I've got.

The envy encore to me lancet. There is nothing in all this a parkour brutal that's that's

the elan of the life you know even not a little you know sometimes you say

let's say a athlete to point like a man who has been a little little more

long and he will be a little more the partour the life

I'm I'm still at the same at the full of the

maybe a major context, but I'm still a full of the case. I don't know if I'd like my child has launched the check, I live still like that, you know, I'm trying to risk. And, and more, I'm ready to bring the real risk, today, that I've never paid. The risk of amorous? Yes, you know, I'd have put,

at the travel, the apprave, me retire, completely. Yes, yes, I've kept a party protected that I'm not made in the but I'm

still, I'm still there's still to give you're still you're still I'm still I'm still

the faith the hope the and I think is it still your capacity of emerval

total total yes yeah completely I'm I'm I'm

a ceremony of I'm in a lot of my life, whatever at any point I'm even over

to get to that. Fac, completely. And, you know, I'd could never

me reconciled with the life. I mean, to, in other when I discovered my

pat, you know, you're like, you're to be like, never to live in an

affat, it's so, it's really too, it's really when we pass these

pain, it's physical, you, and recently, and, recently, I've I've lived a little experience a little

little bit of a little bit of it's a little I'd like to get some something, it's it's going to get to be able and I'm sorry,

I'm doing, I'm doing, I've said, the gross ulule, the gross dolor, the gross d'oeuvre, and

then I've the experience, it's not to get to get to get a car, it, it's not to get to on the

computer, it's not to be to be to be able to on Instagram. I'm said, I've got

I'm in the silence, and that I feel the the d'allel. You're absorbed.

Yeah. Because you don't know, because she'll be able to know if she's I'm going to know. I'm going to I'm going to see

she's in there and the pain she's not quite when you decide that she passes it's a pass but it makes it

so at this time I'm at this experience that's like the gross of the same all the same all the same

all right I'm in I'm oldy I'm the gross cutute of the because she

it's that it's so that it's that's that's hard of the fact of rest reconciled with the

life, it's the you've seen, you know, you can never say it's not not a lot of

not, because it will always to come in, it's not that you have that and you know,

and that it's actually, that it's that will be there, you know, when you say, I'm worried,

it's always there, the potential of the the dollar is there all the day, but it's

to choose, okay, I go can't and I'm to exist these captors, I think,

to try, to tremple when it's also in our lives, even if we even if we we're like

some, even if we're able to get able to get to get this and then it's not

if you know, if you accept the and you live the bonoor intensely, and it's

that comes, we've been to look at the other, that's a mean, if you don't the power

to do you to do something that someone thinks of you've been to be to be able to accept

what you have been to be so that this sphere there's not the choice that's

to make to go to the you do it's you do with you know, you know, to accept the

gross daughter, you're able to accept the great and that's the real sphere.

That's the real estate. And that's something that you live with yourself with you there.

There person who can really totally partage your great and the

same that you can't share you can partage that you will live

with you can so this relationship that of base is

hyper important. So the other, it's more or more important. But there, you're kind of to leave more to place to your

in these moments also. So, so, more to live alone. Exactly. So your

great pain, you will be you can't put your your head on the head on the

head on your life. One, once, you know, once, you know, I've done

there's nothing to do, Marklott, you know, you know, you know, you know, it's,

you know, that, once that's passed and that's fatigued, well, to get to

get to be on the stucing on the sofa, you can't be able to get to be to get to

there's a step that I have to do. Yeah, yeah. And it's really the song,

it's a head on my time. It's exactly. That's exactly. That's it's like

a, like, a, a, a, for you, for you. Thank you,

Markleod, have been also generous. Thank you, to all to do you, it's,

it's, It's amazing. It's these are that we're that we're going to pass in a

podcast like that's I'm I think that I think I mean, you know, I'm

made a lot of people who will be able and they're going to think they're doing and they're doing they're

doing we're doing we're always we're in the negative we're in it's a second

and a quarter but but it's because it it's a very much you're also clear

on many the affairs in the capacity to get detached. There are some of that you have recounted to your that's the beauty of the exchange. That's

my, I'm going to partier with a reflection also. Well, well, you know, we've made, we've had exchanged. We've opened our game. We've opened our own because there's things that it had a lot where it had not a rapport in the discussion, but there's really I'd just listened, and I'm recouped, and I'd recognize it at certain agar.

And you know, all along of our course, because it's a long time that we've seen in the sphere, we've always sent a connection. So, it's indifincible, it's not something that man, we're like a reciprocity. Okay, we're like, we're doing this, you can do with

anybody in the life, and it's that that's what you're doing the experience human, you know, when we're choosing to go with that. Thank you. What pleasure. What pleasure, really? In fact, thanks to all the world,

to have been living something, and we've been to live something, and we'll see to the next podcast, bye-bye. This episode was presented by Karin Junkah, the reference in matters of the care of the in the Depot at the

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