Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #171 - Catherine Trudeau | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: August 28, 2026

On connaît Catherine Trudeau à travers les nombreux personnages qu’elle a incarnés, mais beaucoup moins la femme derrière ceux-ci. Vive, drôle et spontanée, elle est aussi plus pudique qu’on pourrait le croire.Avec Ouvre ton jeu, elle accepte de s’ouvrir sur la femme qu’elle est devenue, son couple qui dure depuis 23 ans, son rôle de mère, sa relation avec ses parents, sa préménopause et sa façon d’avancer en âge.Une rencontre remplie d’humour et d’authenticité, qui nous fait découvrir le chemin parcouru entre la petite Catherine, timide et anxieuse, et la femme épanouie qu’elle est aujourd’hui.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:15:12 Cartes vertes00:52:23 Cartes jaunes01:24:21 Cartes rouges01:47:12 Cartes Éros02:05:58 Carte Opto-Réseau━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Crave, youtube et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne. Vous aimez Ouvre ton jeu? C'est à votre tour d'ouvrir votre jeu avec les versions jeux de société. Disponibles dès maintenant partout au Québec et au https://www.randolph.ca/?s=marie-claude+barretteVisitez mon site web : https://www.marie-claude.com et découvrez l'univers enrichissant du MarieClub, pour en apprendre sur l'humain dans tous ses états et visionner les épisodes d'Ouvre ton jeu, une semaine d’avance. Avec le code CLUB15, obtenez 15% de rabais sur l'abonnement annuel.━━━━━━━━━━━Ouvre ton jeu est présenté par Karine Joncas, la référence en matière de soins pour la peau, disponible dans près de 1000 pharmacies au Québec. Visitez le https://www.karinejoncas.ca et obtenez 10% de rabais avec le code OUVRETONJEU10.Grâce à Éros et compagnie et notre niveau rose, obtenez 15% avec le code ROSE15 au https://www.erosetcompagnie.com/?code=rose15Découvrez notre collection MarieClub : Espace mieux-être et Ouvre ton jeu de notre boutique en ligne. Une sélection inspirante pensée pour vous accompagner dans votre quotidien.✨ https://boutique.marie-claude.com/

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We've known, in other, in a lot, in a case, I'm really in her. The first time that she's she was, she was, she was the role of Lynn Lappofine. I'm sure that it's a few do something. I'm talking to Catherine Trudeau. Very, very content that she's someone that I know very poor in the life, but at all the time that I've received, I've ever seen, I've always has been

on her I think she has a facility to speak to talk about to see a feeling like a question,

I'm really going to know that I'm going to pass a good moment on the place to Catherine. Very

too, in my Mettier, I joined a role in cinema, two roles in my

career, where I was new, new duos, as we did, and then when I did,

and then, very, well, I'm back to do that. I don't know, I'm not, like, I'm my parents,

for say, Papa, Mama, I'm, I'm a film, it's super. And then, I'm going to get to do it and my parents

are very going to go to play in a film, it's a thing of a car, and aphard. And now,

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know why I'm avertie, I've been evidences,

I've said, it's not it's not, if it's, it's, I don't talk about. And my father, he wasn't,

he didn't, he was in a show he went to see a lot of his film with the first film of his and he

he'd say, oh, well, my feet, because I have 25, you know, 24,

25, it's my first time when I started to the school. So, clearly,

I'm at a last at this moment that. Your his father his time probably in

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I'm very very sure of the because it's a woman who's a few of I'm trying to I'm doing that I'm

not quite that it's not like that we know it and it's there's a time of who I'm going to discover

who is behind these characters well, thank you thank you thank you I'm really content

to be there especially that I'm in the interview I'm I'm in I'm sure you I'm sure you

you're like you're in this is you're in not at the summer, it's going to start with but I'm

the impression that I'm sure you're talking about. You're talking Matilde at Pierre. Exactly.

So, so it's so that it's so a day of a everyday so it's, it's

it's always the time, you're content. You know, but now it's Catherine. Yeah, so there's

that we're that we've got because we're after that's not so long to me

in the character. You know, in the attitude in the character, it's not in

on the everyday, we're not in a principle of composition on that. For certain roles, yes, let's

Leanne, let's Fanny Fannie, the coiffel and it's not Leanne, and Sebastian no more, Sebastian, Rikorce,

it's not Deny Marchant. But the gang of the squad, I'm the impression that we're close to

our energy primary, by reflex, I'm the impression, and I'm my I'm put positioned like the

lady a bit sympathetic, rigolote that goes in the humanity when at a little,

but I have a co-of-character also, and I have that's a lot of Matilde, but we're not quite very very well, this girl,

so we'll see we'll see we're seeing a little more than you to know, that's over your job.

Ah, yeah, because is, is that you expose very much? In the media,

do you say? Yeah, in the media, is, is that, do you know, I'm going to have been

that, I'm long time, There's like these missions where we say, oh, I'm getting

there, you know, I'm quite, I'm quite to go to everybody, I'm remember,

I've got I've got I'm going to Michael Mischel in Quebec. I'm very, very impressed

it was at the beginning to be four, five that I was maybe four, but for me,

I was like to come to come to get a great interview with this one so much

important of the the media of the television and there's a lot. There's a lot. There's a grand interview with Franco Nouveau, with Ronio Mirroir. I was, I'd maybe, but it's all the time

to professional, these encounters, it's often to our course, we're declining the characters that we've endorsed, and we don't know, not just these anecdotes, but it was more these interviews in line with a

parkour professional. A I'm a demarche, a my demarch of comedienes, my demarch of autrists, my demarch, well. And then, plus the aspect ballado,

who is declining for years, I've been not done I've got to any, I'm not a impression that there's a

group, it's a gang perhaps more young, who makes, you know, some, you know,

some funky, on the sexuality or your complex or all, so, I'm not an invitation

really to go to to go to to the And I see I'd say I'd honestly, I'm there

I'm here I'm here I'm here because I'm always you're every time that you know, it's always your moments,

an authenticity and an verity, and I'm in quest of that I think in my life

in my life in this moment, so you're your your perception is very good,

that I'm not so easily, I'm not because I'm bobby, I'm open, you're

thrilled, spontaneous but, you I'm trying a little in fact, I think I'm trying to

control the message there, you know, because we're saying that's what you do you know, but is

that you do you know, it's not, it's like the nuance. Absolutely. It's the nuance.

It's, it's what you do you say, it's true, but after that no, and at a point

there's something also, I think, there's something, I think, there, we're,

we're talking we're, we're, we're, but, my, my reso, by example,

I don't I'm not, you know, I'm never, you know, I'm in

different in the difference in the why I'm appreciate and to do you, and I'm and I'm

not, I think that, I don't, I don't, I don't, I think it interesting, what I

feel, or how I feel to be how much, and how I'm, I'm

know my son, in the corridor with you, maybe I'd be delivered out of time. But even with my

friends, it's there's a pretty people, I think, who know, who know, by confidence

or by, I mean, I don't say, not by gender, but, you know, you're more secret,

you're more... Yeah, I'm more... I'm more secret, and I, I'm not always confidence that what I

will, that I will livery, that I'll it will have to be a confidence you know,

sometimes we say for the way, I say, I'm saying, hey, you talk about to that person

and the person to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, first thing, you know, everyone is

all the whole people, I'm going, there's that there people, that I have seen,

and the person that I chose, it's because I'm because I'm there's because it

there's a confidence between us. And I don't judge not the people who have a

easy to to know what they have, what they've been and what they have been

and they're in process of reparation. I'm very appreciative of that, in fact, but I'm

question often is, is that they do they do they find to help? To help where they're

going to be going to it's part of their work to do they're talking to and I'm

not a problem with that, but I think there are there's there there are there,

there are the people, with who I want to have to have to bring

certain things. And I know, I know, but perhaps a puddard. Yeah,

but there's, I'm, yeah, I'm living with my person I think, but in the life,

I'm living more and more more easily I'd say, so, yeah, we're going to see what,

we're doing on all right, but I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm like

too, because of when you, you know, when we're had been a certain moments,

it's not that it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not that I'm that I'm

well, you know, you're in it's not to get to someone to do you there's,

there's a question, I'm not to say, that I do you, I'm just to you,

do you know, I'm a question, is that person that, and you know, you're super

named, I'm even not in mind, I'm even in text, an example, you know,

or a moment of my view precise that, hey, there, I'm in,

I'm in, I'm in, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm in, and then some of the

people, and there's, people, and I, so I, so I, did I, I'm,

I'm, there's a, one, there's a year, is you, do you, gossip,

in a, in a, part, you know, I, it's, it's, I'm,

it's a doubt. Yes, so, so, so, so, you know, you want,

you're going to say, you're going to do with all the world. Oh, it's just. So, there's no. We're in a real affair. It's a chair. It's a lot of time. There's a lot of people who are.

There are many of people who are people who are people who are people who are, but there's people who are people who are doing, in doing it. I do you, well, yeah, I'm doing, I'm going to work

my winter with you a few years. I've made I'm doing this exercise to do you know, there are sometimes we're doing this sometimes we're doing.

Oh, yeah. Well, at least Catherine, it's these questions of order generic that I could pose to

all the people are the question are chosen for you know, the question to be quite more specific

in your story. The level rose, it's these questions, of great reflections,

or of a rapport with the life, of the rapport with the life, the level ira,

the company, you'll have come it's sexual or sensual. Uh, in fact,

it's not a level, the last question, the question the question, I think it's always

a question, because our question, And it's a question that's a question that's

a little for the final of this contract that. Perfect. And you're your famous Joker. Oh,

if you think it's that's been to be able to that you're to get to get to get to a malice. And sometimes

it's, you know, it's a lot of you know, you'd put on your jokeur and I pass a new question. So,

you jane to do you guys for to use to do you guys, you can't do you put the need to let's get to be able to

let's get exactly, exactly. So, no. They're going on just here, me also. So, I mean, you know, I'll give you

don't know five, if you're I'm going to that's a very, very great, it's very gross, we're going to

becky that you're not to beck my lunettes. I mean, I've said, you have to I have to

that I'm to be the point, for that I have to I'm not a question. Okay,

it's perfect. I don't one, I don't two, five, you said? Mm-hmm.

Excuse me allot, it's a It's perhaps one of the last that I did say, Oh, why? No, but it's because I'd say that my view has been able to beckxed

Oh, sand verres, okay? I thought I said without question, oh, my God, yes, it's right, but now I'm sorry, now I'm sorry, when I'm sorry,

when I'm looking in the mirror, I see, what person has made a difference in your life, how react you to the authority,

on what trait of character, have you due and what you're you're to work you to work to make you?

You're and I'll choose one and I'm after. It's difficult to choose just one when I'm

when I look in the mirror I see. This is the here, so what you when you

when you you're in the mirror? I see a woman who is more and more in

accord with these values, to more and more in accord with what she has always she has

a new I'm in a period of my view, and we're sure retachet plenty of things to

so, so I'm in the period of premenopos. You know, you know, what's

that can mean, it's a kind of disequilibrate, openingure, but it's very beneficial

for me, some, all, this period to go, to go, to go, to go

confirm the things, And that, it's part of the constat that I'm

going to when I'm going to I'm playing in if we're if we're in a point

of view only physically, but I don't to be to be to be

a capacity to be in some that's it's like that. And I

know, I'm it's just it's not a person when I when I when I'm

when I'm never to devalorized. I'm not a person like that. I'm not that I'm

certain that my, I'm certain, that my men, I'm heard, say, oh,

that, oh, that, never. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not this regard

on me, uh, critiques, I have these foe, I'm not always, I'm not always

there, there's, there's, there's, there, when I, when I'm ,

when I'm, I'm , days. I'm making you today because I had an event in the

morning. But if you would be forced to come to see not make you know, I'm really important, to not be able to

be able to be able to the first day when we finished when we're finanti gang, because I was to be able to

be fatigued, I was afraid, I thought that I thought that you know, with you, with you're with your

face, your face, your exact. Yeah. What has always been

It's easy for me, because when I I'm notque, I'm notkeye not. So, you know, the fashion very physical, let's on, I see a

woman, that's a lot of that's a thing that's, it's a lot of thing, to say, that's the way, I'm

more, I'm saying, I'm more positive, I think it, more constructive, I think, I think it's very, I'm

I'm sure, I'm coming, I'm, I'm going to be a year, I'm the impression that it's a because

we've developed because we've developed from the time in memorialio in our society, it's not valorized to be to beaille,

in the mity that I do not always, I have the impression, but more I'm going to

more I'm after, and I see to that, I know, I'm assuwee in some of certain, and that

me very to be this capacity to let's what it's all that. You mean, it's like more

to be like a lot of things. Yeah. By rapport a plenty of things, not just to the aspect because for me But it's,

but you know, but you know, a woman that's in trying to be able. At certain agar, yes,

the regard of the other principally, because I, like I said, I'm not this regard that on

I, I'm some satisfaction, but it call not long time. It's called not.

I've always been the same, I'm not I'm not in a, I'm not in an

enterprise of auto-demolition. I'm not like that. I'm not like, I'm just insatisfaction, but I'm like, if you're insatisfied, do you have something with? And I do. You know, it's a pretty... Yeah. And then, and I say, if it's all the time can't be,

if I'm not going to be, well, if I'm not because I'm not as far as far as so, you know, I'm going to do you know, but that's, so, it's like for the aspect physical, because for me, to see, to see, see, look, to look, to look, when I'm looking, like, physically.

and also what I see, the grand vision of my person, of the woman that I'm that I continue to dovener.

Is that you approach more than your femininity? Maybe. Perhaps. I'm very... You're very...

You're very... You'd be today to look, and then, not these two persons, but I'm not the term, but...

It's not Camelion that I'm sure. but I'm amuse with my look. Is that you feel like? Yes. Is that, every morning

it's going to, how you feel? Completely. There are some, I'm, there are some of the coquette, I'm going to be

in rob, I'm, and there's, I'll say, in English, dress down, a casket, a t-shirt

too grand, the jeans, in the base, on, these snick, not too-prop. I'm very, I'm,

I'm, and I'm , and I'm instinctive in my manner to, is, is,

it, It's if it's conditioned these days, is it, is it, how you're to be,

how you feel, it's how you're to be, how you're, because, you know, if I'm,

if I'm, if I'm in rob, because I'm pretty much not a robe. And for

years, let's see, the day, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in my femininity, and when I'm ,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'd say that there's a difference,

I'm, I'm, I'm more coquette, and, but, it's just a vatement, the person who's in the person who's in the same, but there's a,

there's a thing, I'm, I'm, I'm, this state of spirit. Is that you, have the impression that the regard

of the people on, you know, when you're in a good question. My friends, are you, don't, you don't,

it's more, it's more, the time, they're not used to, they're not, they're not , they're not

, they're not, to be in a robe, but I see not, it's really my regard to my on my, I understand, there's something, for that, I mean to say, I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's, I'm something with, I've always

always been to put up to find out of me, but, but, like, it, there, there, there, there's something, you know, there, there, it's, something, you know, maybe, that, maybe, that I'm,

maybe, I'm, I'm, , I'm not, I'm, it's a good, it's a good, Sometimes I have the impression that me to be a for me,

it's more to it's more to be more to be that's in that's in a shirt with, or that's all the same

person, in the fact, to be the same to be to be a yeah, yeah, I'm,

like, as I'm, like, as a , like a person, you know,

it's not because I don't because I don't that I'm that's not feminine, for me,

for me, the femininity, it's in the confidence plus than in in the

there's there's some beautiful, superbe, abbeyed, with these robes, of the tunus,

and the and I'm maybe, maybe, maybe that's she's not she, in the

fact, I think it's an rapprochement that we make, make, and bejout,

rob, it's the feminity, although that sometimes I'm more more

more piscate, and enze spadrily with a t-shirt too grand a casket, there

like something I assume this affair that that, that, I'm

also feminine than when I go to know, you know, I'm I'm not,

but I, I, I, I, I, I, I think that

I, what I know, is, it's going, I'm going, I'm going to be the

, I'm that I understand, I'm trying, I'm trying to try to try to

let's say, I'm that I'm that's that's that's a key, that's,

that's, what you in your in your life in your life of your life of your life you know that

you're not not a need to work but it's that's so that's a job that's a

job that's these acquis that experience that you're you're you're back you're

no you're no you're no you're my marot in so much I'm I've got many more than I

have some time of 30 years and 35 and we're about about the femininip we're about

to primanopause, because I'm like on mission, you know, we've not talked to and that, well, we're not talking my mother and all. And then, I'm in a minute, I'm a militant, I'm like, like, when you're going to arrive there, call me, you're not in trying to do you're not trying to, you know,

call me, I'm going to help. And I'm talking about this. I go, you know, there's these affairs that pace, uh, at 50 years, at 45, that, it's been telling you to have an confidence. And, you know, there's these

more good good you know, I'm trying to okay, I'm doing, I'm trying to

get to get, you get your and I'm doing, and I'm doing, and that's, and so it's, uh, , it's, uh,

But it's that, it's like the effect perver of the hormone, I think, of hormones. You can't have been in talking. It's a real. It's a real affair. I thought, I thought, I thought you know, I was. I thought of a moment of it. You know, I had like a little demon interior that's manifestly. I mean, I'd say, I'd say, I'd be put in punition. I'd say, there'd be some of, you know, because I had to quit the table. Because I had some of, you know, like, you know, like that.

You know, like, I'd say, and, then, I'd say, and, okay, there's going to do. You'd have to know. too long, but it's that. And at a minute I was making I'm doing a lot of

a minute there's a there's a person who there's a man who there's like a little

demon interior, I'm, oh, but it's that and it's that it's it's a

physical, biologic, you know, it's a changement hormonal and there there's a

moment, it's too powerful and it's it affects the perception of the reality

practically it's, it's, we're we're even we even we So, so imagine

the other how they know we're seeing, we're in we're doing, we're doing, what's the time, you know,

and you know, that's the don't that's a question you, we can't be to be able to, that, when it's a

time, you say, well, you know, like, the demon, there, you know, it's not, it's me who

is still, I'm still, that's a morning today, today, tomorrow, it's going to come to

the time, and then, it's correct, and, and I'm, it's, you know, I'm,

I'm, hey, I can't I'm in front. I'm made for a nisery like, but it's so. There's that. There's that, there's also,

this, this disequibre that is, which is physiologic or biologic, I don't know what I'm

in terms, in terms of hormones. But, you know, but, you know, it's more than me, I, the control not

really, really, it, so, so, so, that's that's, it's frustrating,

in a, in a period of my life, where I I'm going to to be in in case of an key to

in case of my own, the day that where the chain debark, malgrue it's frustrating.

So, I'm, I go, I go, I , pardon, I, I, I, I'm,

I'm a little, but, when I look in the mirror, I see, I, see, I, I, I'm,

a, I'm a person that's a difficulty to say that to say, I'm not, I'm

I'm, I'm come, I'm going to get that. I'm able to say, I'm sure, I'm sure,

I'm sure to do you're I'm in, I'm sure, I'm sure I'm in a voice boss, now I'm doing

to say a voice out. It's extraordinary. I think it important. But it's because we're feeling, we're

that's fair, that's but it's but it change our face of the life, the fierty.

Are you capable to say that? I, I'm able to say that, I'm afraid to be the

different to to be the when you're feeling, I'm, I'm going to be like... No, but, you know, to be a bit of being, we're saying, you know, it's a manseeing, you know,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's good to do it. One day, I was, I was in an issue of TV, and I was talking to the importance of the Fierty, and there had an philosopher French who was also on this mission, and then after, he said, ah, it's rare, in Quebec that I can't talk about to the Fierty, you're not a people

who are, whoosy to say that you're Fierre. And he said, it's so important. Like, yeah, I have not I'm not, I'm, you know,

he said, you have a word of that. It's like to be able to so. So, so.

So, and it's, it's a galon that you merit. Totally. It's a galon that we're

that's because it's related to a action, it's related to something that we're doing to do it.

Yeah, and it's related, to, you a lack of, you know, a man of the

, like you it's not, it's not, it's not, No, it's something that you've felt, that's that's a lot, you've got to be changed, you've got to change the life of someone else, and you can be fair to that, you know?

Yeah, and I'm, and I'm, you know, I'm saying, and it's not because my parents me don't know, but it's been more than the 80, to say to our children, I'm afraid of while I know that I know that's, but I'm saying to be very guyson, that. So, how old are you? Are you fired?

And I'm sorry, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to ask, you're going to, and you're I don't want to if they're scared of you? Exactly. I'm going to be a

very to be you're in you're doing it's because you're doing it's because you're yeah, I'm

that's important that they're able to know it to be able to be able to see a friend, you know, in your

mirror? I see a woman, I'm a woman who really, I'm a person to be a

way, I'm know, I'm just galvoded, you know, to see, to be a good, you know, I'm,

I'm not stalling, I don't, I'm sorry, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, and I'm trying. I'm trying to, it's confrontant, it's difficult, but, but I think that I have some things to,

to improve, and, and I'm in many points of view, and I, and I, on which I get, on which I can't, on which I'm helping, so, I'm, yeah, I see that,

I see, a, way, I've seen, a few, that, for example, I've seen, I've been, very young, the character of the equilibrium.

I've all the time had been, all my eyes in the same panier, never, I'm, my tart,

the image of the part of the my point are, I'm not a point of three-quarter job or three-four family,

and no, I'm trying to to do it and don't a little to the whole of the dessert.

I think it's my way to be in equilibrium. What's what you do you're

not? I'm to get, to be, there's times there's there's, there's,

there's, but I'm, I'm to have a final a fine to that. It's like

I said, okay, I'm a a call the collier, and let's let's the next next months, we're

we're in the whole, everyone participes in a particular in a principle of family, we'll say,

okay, the girls, I'll have to have been to work, and we're working, we're doing

we're doing to be in a little, you at your at your clent? Exactly. But I I'm,

I'm in because I see that's momentaned, but I I, I, I said no often,

often. I said no some, sometimes to do not, because it would make too in a position of disequilibre. I had

too work for long time, or me aloyed, you know, when my children were little, I said,

no, some of which I could, I could say, no, in the sense of, well,

I'd say not, let's, a film with Deny Villeneuve, you know, I'm,

you're in just, I'm But I'm not a very ambitious, I'm not very ambitious, Maricloge. Oh, no. No. Oh, yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're, because I think that, you're, in my mirror.

When I'm looking at my mirror, I'm not, I'm not. But it's because I think we're, we have, a, you know, a, but, you know, but, but, the fact, the ambition, is, you know, it's like something that we're doing out here. You see, you're doing it, you know, but, you're, in the same time, you're really diversified, in the sense

that's autrists also, you know, you've done done the animation, you've done you're in actress, you,

you, you, you, have played in different characters who had been being,

you know, and I'm talking about, but I'm talking, I'm, I'm, I'm,

that's, that's a person, that would be marked like, almost negatively

in your career, in the intusable, and the invincipable. Excuse me, I'm, in,

the invincip, in, the invincip, and, And, but still, it's attached to your

character. You know, there's a thing you know, there's a kind of a person who's

like you know, we're in the arm of your characters, you know, so you've had been the role important,

you've got some, there's like, there's like, an ambition, well, you say, you're not an

ambition, and it's correct, I respect that, but, but, let's view of the

exterior, I think, it's ambitious, what you do, I'm, I'm, I'm,

what you do you do this I mean, for me, to have to have a ambition, it's to

want to be to be in if I've had had been an audition, I'd have had to go to do with

a series American. That's what I had, that I've had, you know, I'm not I'm going to

go to the United and that's that's a question. You had to have you have to

have been a bit or not of do you? I'm thinking three minutes, even not,

two minutes. And, and, sometimes I, Sometimes I mean, I'd have been to go to the experience, if I'd

to meet with, a realisatour, that I know not, me push it. For me, there are two things important

in the notion of ambition. So I've not made my demo, by example, to the comedian for that my agent

could be to go, to be able, that I'd don't, that I'd like, but I'm not the

case, I'm not the way to do do you know, to do you want to do you that's in the sense that

that I do I don't of ambition, but I think there are many of these decisions that are

related to a fear that I've had and that I have also at various regards professionally of always

the fear of the disequilip I'm I've made a job that's a stabilizing at the

base. So if it's it fragilise my my life personal because I

work in the States because I because I don't know my children for because

that I'm not, I'm just going to do in a other language. All that for me, it's there where I say, I don't have this ambition, professionalal, in all the case. But you're the ambition, I guess, I'm going to say how I'm,

I'm not ambitious in the sense that for me, my ambition, is what I'm trying to do. It's always the ambition to do the much what I'm in trying to do.

It's that my ambition. It's that the result is always the major that could be. But I don't an ambition for what it exist

not. I'm trying. Is that that's that? I think that's that. You know, what?

You know, quite, I don't know if I'm talking about to be the good definition of what's to be able to want to do you

to do, aspire to more than what more than what to do, I'm like that I've defined the ambition, but now,

how you just you know, how you know, I think, it's exactly that. I can't to respond,

you know, the question for you, you'd see, you'd go to you're , I'm

I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to right, but I'm in there, the life my name

I'm really a lot there's there's I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in the

moment, I'm doing with the competence that I'm, I'm a I'm a hour, I'm

good elive, I'm, I'm an time, I'm doing my text, I'm doing my

affairs, and I'm sure to say that's to be more than that for the instant. You know, for me, it's that. If you were

ambitious, I'd have written any of the producer or the producer or the realisattor and I'm doing in your film,

I'm zero to mind. Zero, zero, zero, zero of mine. But when you're a project? Oh, I go.

Oh, yeah, for me, it's part of my engagement. I'm very engaged. It's so, you're very engaged.

So, you're doing the ambition for the project in the project in the part. Oh,

yeah, it's very important for me. So this woman that that you see, it's a

beautiful I'm I'm in I'm in I'm in the life I'm in you know,

I'm not a few a few I'm to say, I'm at the time of my response

because I'm, I'm decortique not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I think there there's, I think there's, I'm not, I think, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm, I, rampant,

I'm in the sense it's not, it's not it's not, it's not, you know, I mean, I think,

I think, I think, it's just, because there's, for who it it's, it's not, it's,

it's not that, it's that's all over stuff, it's, and, you know, it's sure that,

it'd be fun that, that, it'd be, that, we'd have been, we'd be

changed, like, we'd choose, we, we'd choose, we'd choose, , we'd choose,

someone, , I can't change. Can you change? It's been 50 years that I've seen that's like that I'm in

but no we know, we know, we know, we can do have some of some of the to change but don't

but we'll live with we're with and for me it's part of the grand luxe the chance

immense to advance in this life also the the bough that I'm more

but I'm just be just be reconnaissance of that. You know, the famous rite of expression, Markle,

there's, because you're talking to because you're quite sure even more than you know, and I'm going to say, I've ever been madly of

that, I'm going to I've ever when I'm asking, when I started to have done to make a few the morning, and sometimes he

had me to look at the time to make sure, it's an exercise that I probably thought excessively.

It's very difficult to see. And I'm there, but I have to but I'm there, but

I thought that it when I when I was it was like, it was just it was just in the

it's just it's just because I'm because I'm just like I'm really like I'm really like the

marionette ventrilo that the bouching I was obsessed I've never remarked

and I'm like I could come I'm I'm trying I'm so what I'm but it's

but it's difficult but in meantime you say well that I'm sorry that I'm not

that's So it's sure that it's good to it's good to be thinking the people to not too accorded an importance to, you know,

we're these people, we're being good, you know, and it's, it's a crossher to do you, it's a

that I'm acroche to the family, that I like, Penelope, McCoy, Marite, Fortin,

that I'm that I'm past a bit of Sylviel, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, but to say that I've I want the, I want, I want, that the people say,

oh, yeah, there, oh, yeah, it's these women who make very much more to me elevate and say, oh, well, she's,

she's, she's the world, I'm trying to assume, so it's like, it's over it, you know, that's important,

the models. But it's inspired by the other, you know. So, the question, on what trait of character

has you have you have to have been? Ah, on what trait of character?

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the person with which I am the most susceptible is my family. You know, an

an amy can be a thing, but if my my my mother,

my father, I have two friends, you know, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, I know, if in my time, I'm in prison, I'm,

in, I'm I'm myself emperisoned in the little little

there. Is it going to get to get to get to the I'm in

the thing I'm there's a lot of a susceptibility that I have

that's mennue in year otherwise that's something that's

many years of years it's to not noming the attend that I

I'm I'm it's difficult for me to nom noming the okay

you're nom not, okay, I understand. It's a trait of character that I have. But you're desattances. I'm in, but I'm not but I'm, it's dissu in my 20thene,

there, a lot of my relations, in, in my relations, in, let's turn, I, I'm trying, I'd expect, I'd say,

but I'd express, but I couldn't be, they'd be able to the pove. F'all, there had been a period

with my relations that were more fluid, that I relied a lack of maturity emotional, it's like if you're like

in a film of Walt Disney and the guys are supposed to understand how I'm we're doing, we know,

it's a that's assuple it's a suple but I'm I'm a good character when I'm quite there

when I'm there's always very, very tattue. It's what your job in your family? I'm in

the jambon, I'm the jambon. I'm the jambon. Is it's a because of that? Maybe. I'm at the

first of the sister and the great-sor. Yeah. It's a person who like you play. Some of the young adult,

you know, sometimes. Yeah, absolutely. You know, with the times. I'm, you know,

I know, I know, I know, I know, I'm, I know, a to know, a tawry, it's taut,

it's bores, and it's not that you be able to be so much. And at the adolescence or the end of

the end of the end, I've had an image very clear of, we're doing what's I'm doing

I'm not I'm trying to not my father my father I'm saying no no Catherine

you're I'm sorry Catherine you have to you have to go to goh and I'm

I'm voluntarily done of the sort of and I'm and I'm back

and I'm to go to turn and I'm I've got to come back continue you're

being more it's more it's all on on the on the

cause and I continue to you, tis-tis like a muley? That, I'd say that...

Because, Revene, it's your... It's your... It's... Well, it's... It's to admit

that I'm too... So, so, so, I... I'd say, I've made a detour, but the more

I think, that's... Yeah, the... ...and... ...and... ...accepting to Laché...

...scus... ...you... ...you... ...to... to demand pardon, to be retracted, to say,

oh, that I'd probably be to say, I'm probably to say, but it's not been violent

like a time that's, it's not been spontaneous for me, in time I'm a reply,

but in your family, is that sometimes we're talking to take in that? No.

No. But in my family, we don't don't get so, you, we know,

we're so, we're done, you're the same, no, we're not not so,

but I think that it had really a rapport with the maturity a certain a maturity that has been a more I've been more than I'm

again again again again again, I'm in being quite a quite quite I've made false route in the piece

in the life you're able to be able to know the things also sometimes it's related to the confidence

how the other will react if I'm if I'm if it's is that it is that it

is that I've should be correct? Is it for me the difficulty to noming the thing is really to,

like I'm not used to do it simply, it's not over it's not in the moment of emotion

so it's quite quite, it's associated to something of something of the motive, that's not

necessarily in the light, or the cries, no, because I'm not a chicanoeneo

in the life, but it's sort all because I'm too croce, but I'm being abit,

and I'm saying, oh, well, it's not that's not that's It's very easy to nom. No.

No. But, but to more more more because it's a cummue

a moment of a moment of the things that and they're being a simple and it's

because it's because it's hard for when you when you get to get but you you know,

but you have said before, you know, you're to have to have to be,

but you see, but I'm my God I'm continue I said I'm not

I'm a malice of two Yeah, absolutely. But you know, in the case that we're in the case that we're like the couple, we're the

two like, we're in in the respect, we're in what the other and what's the we're not in a... Do you me on be there in

too? Or do you more? Okay, I'm more. You'll probably provoking more. We're going to

we're in our... We're respect in how we're we're saying and we're we're letting to come to when I'm not

I'm not asked to know me, it's not my chum that's not my chum that's, to say of the things.

It's me who's not really how they say it's to be able to that's not interpreted,

or we're not I'm not the same thing, so there's some of the time, but I can understand,

you know, it's that, it's so, it's not to know, it's, so, so, so, so,

so, so, when you feel, you know, you're, you know, we, we,

you know, we, you know, I'm a, you know, I'm a couple of 23, So we're going to, okay, we're not a young couple,

our own, our couple, our own, our own, our couple, advance on age. But it's both, that, I think, to chominy in our personalities. We're two, huh? We're two, be a bell person, but we're chomine

differently, not at the same rhythm. That's a great apprenticeship, so, you know, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, there's nothing in the, and there, there, there's just, there's or some of the same, who'd say, well,

frankly, you know, the memory short, but of what I've done to do you're doing to work,

that's a real problem in my relations with me, with me, with the other. Surely that my father

would say, oh, yeah, yeah, that's true, and I'm going, and I'm sure,

for your chom that's, that's, that, other part, other stuff, yeah, but I'm

always in time, but I'm thought it interesting , the difficulty to noming,

Because when we're when we're more young it has really a impact often on our relations Because as you say You've got some of the attendants Yeah So when you're desattante non-expirming

It's a deception And then the other is like Oh, depporvue by that Because they didn't know So we can't We can't even know someone So it's like to see that with the time

to learn it, it's adduce the relations. Absolutely. And I, I'm a lot of admiration

for the people who are having that in their personality in a way spontaneous, natural,

to say, simply, hey, that, that's, it's, to learn to learn to

to learn to to learn to do that, I'm, I'm, I know, I know, I know,

I know that's not that that's that's that's it's been that's it's

simple, it's, It's simple, it would be simple, to say that, but, you know, when it's when it's, yeah,

I admire people who are in their life or they're in a lot of, but there's people, there's a,

yeah, it's okay, she'll come to me say, but with a tone, extraven, I'm not

in the attack, yeah, in the attack, in the up, in the up, a surprise,

a color, a, wait, you don't know, you know, that's, but, you know, there,

there, there, there, to, , there, always in my fan of mirror, who's assume, and who is willing to be to be respecting its limits,

it's more easy. And I see that it's not a lot, because I arrive to do it, and it's not bad at me not bad at me. And I said, oh, it's just that, my God, what's the liberation?

And we're in it can't go, you know? So, you're after saying, in therapy, or? I'm not assiduant in therapy. I've got many that I've got. I've got many more

more than, again, that's more that I'm in there. And, yeah, I'm in

not too of assiduities of the other people that I'm that I'm in the parkour more,

more profound than my own than I'm afraid I think. I think that's just that's a question,

I'm a name it. Tell me. Arrived you to do do you to do you to do do you

to find it's time? I think it's probably, well, you know, find, you know,

you know, You know, sometimes you're to have to say, now, I'm going to I'm going to I'm a bit. It's not the good moment.

It's not the whole point. And there's not not a lot of all the time my first time my first time, I'm going to

get a excuse for not the but I'm sure. But I'm sure that one time that it's a pass all the world.

It's pass by the writing that for me. It's a thing I've said that I'm that's a

because of maybe I'm perhaps I'm perhaps I'm perhaps you have to express the things

to show passionately I'm going to write at a place. That I've done to write I'll let's let's depose

I'm going to and I'm going to say, what I'm after I'm going and then I'm and then I'm and then I'm that's not that

I'm saying that's not that's I'm sure I could be I'm sure I'm sure and I'm

and I'm a bad thing I'm I've done I've done so but you're it's a language family yeah

yeah yeah Yeah, and I'm I'm not, I'm I'm not I'm a journal Intim, I'm I'm not

I'm not a journal Intim I'm not But these periods that I'm in With my couple,

I thought I had, I felt like I had a Neau and that and that I thought that I'm

out of the to be able to I, I'm gonna it's gonna it's, it's it's, it's, it's, it's,

there's something that's something that's there's some, it's, you know, it's,

you know, oh wow, that, we're a ruck up, oh, yeah, that's an entire newoyal, you know, you're very because you,

you know, you know, it's because I'm going to have to be able to in the other, too, you know, and when you're

in an exchange like an man, it's not the moment, but it's a lot of it's not, it's all,

it's overpire, we're we're surprised, we're in, we're in writing, yeah, my child,

I don't, let's say, oh, la, yeah. But in couple, You've been Like a great period of your life

It's almost At least My life It's capote With the same Yeah, With the same person? Yes, that's

An amour Is that you Have you Have you been Have you? Not time? Well, Not time

You know, I've got There's been D'amoreau Secondary, I've been To have I'm at 17

18, 18, 18, 18, 18, I'm still, T'clock. And I've met Patrick after me

I've had perhaps 27, 28 years? So, so, it's a

10- active of, you know, of frequentation so I'm not used a lot of

but I never been alone long time. I think, you know, you know, I'm

in a I'm a name like that I'm self diagnostique dependent

with it in my 20th you know, I've been all the time I'm all the time

you're all to be a two? You're at two? It's just as I was trying to be in couple. Yes, but I'm not fusional. But I have one, I'm an other rapidly.

There was like something, maybe, maybe, which is already zero, my case. I cherey the solitude. I'm not afraid of the solitude. But I've not yet. But I'm not too much. No.

Not so much. So it's a grand story. Yes. Four, Antimov. Yes. That has to be given an intention? No. I'm going to

I'm going to I'm going to she has the good to be in the perfect so I'm going to what I'm going to what you have

to surmounted what's the role of the man you have brought to what's that you have not received to

that's not you're not to feel you in plain possession of your oh wow it's all

all these all right oh yeah I'm I'm I'm always to bring this but I

have a but I'm a responded, what's you have not received your parents

that's not you know, I think we can not do what we're not

not seen. It's difficult to don't know what I don't know I'm not

in the age 70, I'm in 75 so the generation of my parents it's not

in those don't, they're not those people they're

they, they, you know, they, you know, they're so, you know,

so, so, when I you've said that I've got to do you know my difficulty to expressly the business, to nom my limits, my frustration, my deception. My parents are these parents extraordinary.

I've had an infancy formidable, a genus, a fact of vacants, my parents, the two, very implicated in the activities familial, parascolare, all that. But they don't want to, if we're not talking not. We're saying not,

what's what's what's what's going to do you you're going to be in you know what I'm trying to do you know in a way of educating these children, to want to bring the conflict and to say, look they've got to you've got to be something you've got chicaned, frere and sir

you want to be it? There's is something that we're doing debullone of that? What's what we can learn of that? It's not, when I had 9, 10, 11, when I had my friend and I put you in a telecommand

by the head, you know, it'd be a bit of, you know, It'd be in your chamber. No, no, no, no, no, excuse me. It's finished, you know, there was something to... But, again, again, I don't put not en-vue to be able to my parents to not have given something that they've not received.

It's a thing. And it's a thing... And it's not a suffrage for me. It's a moment. And, yes, I'm obliged to me to run out of evidence that in my 20th and my 30thens, we had not to have

not to make to make to make a a man to get to you know, there's a

conflict sin, there's a way of disquiry, to argue, I'm not this,

we're not like that, we're not but my parents not were not in a conflict over.

I've never seen my parents to chicaned but they were two four years, so I

had 24 a, yeah, a kind of, I've not received, a transparency in the, you know,

the things. And you're going to the church, that's, yeah, and when I said,

it's for that, that I'm not suffered, a suffering, but it's a member who, I mean, I mean,

I'd like that, I'd like that, and I'd be capable to say, some simple. Like, it's not,

to, that we're you know, I'm going to be tired. It's nious to be able to be able to

say something. But that I'm able to do it and the way I'm doing, more I'm in accord with

my needs, and I'm in a position in this moment that because that's the time I

want to accept my limits and respect my business, although I want to be egoist

and I like the yolo me get you know, you know, But, there's a moment. I see, so,

I'm so much I'm trying to, my friends do you, my parents will not live not all the life or, you know, there's a little

, it's a little lobe in this moment about that there's a there's a there's a there in the sense that

we, you know, we're not not, you see, it's like to be in first, it's like it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

you, it's, it, it's, it's, it's, like that we we're in

first, so I'm in so I'm not going to not so I'm so much when I'm taking care of

the same and we're still more more more more than you want to be doing soin when we

but we're like conditioneded I think it's difficult to do you know, you know

you're talking to say we're in we're in with that we're all, more than

the women I'm the impression yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah Yes, yes, absolutely. The work that I have to do bring a decision in conscience and to me say, it's of that really that I'm doing, and to me

remit to say, hey, I'm choosing this night. And if the person concerned is dissu, then I'm in there, well,

it's just, that's, it's a matter to say, that's not a one. It's not a more,

that's a deception. It's someone that's a person, let's say, oh, you've been evicted to soup, I'm not in a

Belle Espace I'm more I'm more more than I'm like to goze with you If your your response

is, oh but you're bad flat No I'm I'm, all my

friends know, I'm the person the person the person the last time the changement

of plan I'm sorry I'm sorry after that's past, you know, but you're saying it's

oh it's hot, it's oh it's there's just like a bit it's just like a it's just like a out to that. It's

terminated. But it's the way to express to say, to recheting in my terrain, you know, to me say, oh, my

dear, I'm doing it's just a time, oh, my time, it's not, that's the time, is that you're a conflict, you do you,

do you have a briefing of the conflict? Is it? We're, we're in talk, we,

I'm in that's a person, because in my conference I talk to that, of this

famous phrase that you said to, I'm I've heard often in my family,

you know, what we've not received, we can't be able to be able to this France, and one year I'm

I'm able to because I think I'm going to my wife my mother she was, you know, my mare, she had been the

same thing, but it was, it would be, I'm doing, I don't know, is that I'm going to be that for

these children so, although that I'm not combed entirely as an entire from the

I had, and I had really a doubt by rapport to my capacity parental. And, and finally,

when I got in my wife, we're in a child, and when I was in the back, I'm never repose

this question. But I'm going to go to see what I not receive. And I think even that's a

idea a thing, my mother, I'd have not said that before to have a man, my

mother, I'd have done what she'd say, hey, it's ordinary. So, I'm just

I'm trying to the judge, I've got to be complex at your mother, at which point it

went to get to our forces and also our febless our vulnerabilities, our fares out of course,

with the pressure, I had like, the charge mental, the perth of insouciance was a

pressure that it had to make it out, it was, it was so I'm, I decided

to do face to my faise, and it's made a I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm I'm quite who I'm who I'm who I didn't not what my

my mother was, and maybe my mother had not had been the question by a part

to do that about a proper mother. And I'm saying, but if I had been

like my mother, and my father, there would like a end of the evolution.

You understand. And when we have to be conscious of that. You

have to sometimes, I think, I think, I think that you do, it's like

you're, you say, you said, you'd not, I'm because of that,

oh, the way, I'm going to have a for, I change that, but it's just

it's just been when you've got to change that, but I was not if I was able to make the doer there's not as and then after I've got to

just a disponibility to be, to be available and no, I think I didn't, I had not to gerry perhaps of perhaps, you

that I've that I've been that's not the trauma, it was something that I'm, I'm saying, I'm not,

I'm not I'm not, I'm want to be this mayor authoritar, with plenty of discipline, impo,

when it's, When I say, yes, it's yes, I never I'm in the authority. You can't

I like to see what you know, if I'm doing, you do you do you're doing to do you're a little like that

so, and I've got this over this spirit that but I'm not that and having an infant

it's just oh, but I'm too, I'm I'm going to I'm going to

I'm playing to be to understand to understand to be to understand a man. For real.

I think that's it's moment that. I don't if I have

that, I'm to want to to, to want, to do you, it's sure that there's

there's a there, I'm not that, there's not there's, there's, I'm,

I'm going to be a woman, a 25 years, I'm going to be there

to be my chum he's to be my, my, I'm, I'm,

I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I, I, I'm going to, I don't know, I've been I've been, I'm offered. And I'm going to have, and I'm offered, there,

I'm not in a projection of myself and all that. That's why I try to try to to think, is, is that I have an idea of the mare that I had to have an envy to be? I'm trying to do.

It's all. It's like, I've got to be quite a matter, and, you know, I'm, you know, I'm having to enjoy. You know, it's,

I had been making to enjoy. I mean, you know, I mean, finally, I said, but, me, I mean, I'm like, I'm doing, you know, I've seen,

I've seen, I'm doing other men, I'm talking to, my mother, after that, because I, I'm, because I, I'm,

I'm, you know, I'd have been, like, to be, like, to be, like, to be, but, it's a,

tough, it's a , you know, it's tough. You know, it's, it, it's, it's, it, in what we,

in what we, in what we, in the, so, if, if, If you've got some of the things that

going to get to do it's difficult to say it completely. And we see, we know, we know,

my mother was, you know, my mother had not, there was, so few when I was when I was

young, when I was at the house, I'm going to have done the food and I'm

, and it's when we've got to get more, more, that my mother has

made, what I'm to do you have to do have to do what, I've been to go to

market of work, and then a business, I'm doing a lot of I'm in my mother,

she is very, she's she's, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she'd repare herself, I think, of her own time, in my father,

that was, she had, a figure of admiration, my father's a professional of the health,

my mother has had very little to get to the family that we have, and it

magnificent, you know, but I've got a lot of admiration for her course, she, she, she,

she, she, she's, okay, what's what I'm going to, I'm in my suit, I'm not,

you know, it's interesting what you know, because my marriage, it's a little so,

too, it's, to make a career to a coat, because you're at

the house with the kids, but is that tend really? Is,

is, is that is, is that? That's that. You know, I think there's it's a

family, it's it's a have to do their own. The role was pretty determined, you say.

Yes, it's that, it's pre-determined. We're to have a way, it's a place, you're in a

house, you're to be able, you're in a business, you cook, you're doing, you do you, it's so,

that, and it's not, but it's, but it's, but it's, but, it's, it's,

it's a, the, the sentiment, that's a judgment, it's Because it's not all the

women that are doing. You know, there are that are extremely very well. I don't. I don't.

No. In this charge, in this charge mental, it's something, you know, I'd have not

put to rest at the house no. No. I had been to work to come to

be in a house. I think, you know, all this charge that and this non-recognance

that, because it's something that is not very reconnue. You know, when what's you're in

life, you'd say, being at being at the house, it's like, oh, you do you do nothing, you travel, while that's a work, you're an exigence,

which is in continuance, that's, you know, I think, in a lot of my mother, it's sure that had something of this order, that, it's like it's not,

my grandma, I've got to my grandmare, when I'm when they've made their 75th anniversary of marriage,

my grandparents, me, my, and my cousin, and in the case, we had organized the 75th anniversary of marriage, It's a lot. It's 70 years.

And there are some journalists who are coming and there and a journalist who had asked to my grandmother, but Madame Gigh, is what the secret to live in court for 70 years? My grandmire has responded to this, Savoir Endurie.

It's a really rentry in as response. It was even that the title of the article of the journal. It's just imagine this woman, what she has seen? That's the mare

of my mother. So I could understand that my Mary had not a man who had appreciated his life who had morded

in the life so that you've made you want to you want to put at all you want to

do you exactly you know so it's it's got so it's it's like it and I'm

said well, it's like it's like I want to say to my family we can

don't know what we're but you have been conscious of the mind you

know what's what's we're to It's their of Donis, we're not able to identify

and I'm not my, it's the responsibility, it's the presence, it was the the coat

the cost of the life, not just of the regulations, and it's, it's, the,

the coat that I wanted, and I'm very leger with the children, but after

that I'm like, I'm, but I'm doing, it's, well, we can,

we're, we're, we're, we're concerned, but we're Yeah, and I'm I'm trying I'm not if it

does it do that's like I'm I'm sure we're the people who are they're doing the

life. But like our like our probably probably and when when we

have access to a vulnerability, to be I'm helped, you know, when my parents

were separated I was 24 so, so if I had a adult, that it was I was

there, I know, I didn't, I didn't not that it had to it was I'd

I'd want not that he's separate, but it's not shocked you know, and I'm

to try to get to get to get to understand. But it has been my vulnerability,

my parents were my parents, I'm in my head, you understand.

So, whoop, to see, there's something that my parents, and that

my parents, they're that's that in the chain of command, before to be

my parents, it's a marriage, a, a man, a man, a friend, their

sons, they have they have, they're, You know, it's, it's, it's, before,

there, mom and and papa of Catherine Trudeau, it's not the first affair,

no, it's not the first role. And that, I, it's like, it's

it's been, it's humanized, and I'm even, and I'm , and I'm

immensely. But it, it, it's, it, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's perhaps, to be, faible, me also, and to be, for that,

It's very with my girls, more now, but, you know, I'm never, you know, I'm a temperament

as well in the life, you know, a woman choleric, I'm not in the mountains of the motions open up,

and even in cachette, I'm not like that, but, you have used, there's uncles, by example, who are

dead in the last year, and I'm on the hour of the soup to the annos to the annos of the new

funeste, and the last I'm never, I'm just, I'm just, On the contrary, I said, I get a pain, I've been

I'm going to be able to get, oh, because, pardon, Mom, well, it's not grave, you know, it's not, he's parted, you know, he's liberated, or he suffered, or, no, it's important, and then we've got to have lost to his friend. And then, since I'm having

the occasion to do, day, that I'm the occasion, I do, I think it's important to let me say to my guys that, that's, it's a pain, sometimes, we're,

we're, we're , we're impatient, some of the people, we're

dissu, sometimes we're not in the time, it's not up, and I, I,

I think, I think, I think, it's important, to be, the, I'm, you know,

a real relationship with you, but I'm, I'm, I'm, not their friend,

not their important for me to guard that, it's, there, there, They're like that.

To be, recently, I've been saying, I'm just, I'm very much these times if I'm in the autocratic. You know, I'm saying, I'm saying, you know, I'm saying, that maybe a moment

of the only, he will have an amy, an amourous, an amourne, who are saying, oh, I'm anxious, she's anxious these timesi.

Oh, well, I'm not, I'm perhaps, I'm perhaps, I'm perhaps, I'm perhaps, I'm probably, I'm trying to,

I'm going to another one we're a them a them, the name, simply, a lot, a man in three-dimension. Well, yeah, and not just the, you know, you know,

you know, maybe a little more sombre? Yes. Not just. Human. But, yeah. But, I think, it's really important. Human. Because those, if it's not

they're not going to be stabilized. It's not. I want to say, my mother braille, my father, my father is faged. But the other, and they're going to be, but, look, like, like my mother. It's like my father. Yes, that's normal, and that I'm not

too crotch, to have to have the pen. You know, I think. that our our don't know that we're doing that's in the

mechanism of the protection also, you know, we're not you know, we're trying to do you

think it's not, we're doing, maybe, maybe I'm going to be there, but I'm going to but I'm, you know,

I was still with them last month when I was at Quebec and I had not to be able to

me to care, you know, so I'm decided to their bar. I, you want to

the manner who had the discipline and like to be with three children. Yeah.

I was four and the last week we were at five and it's a yeah, it's a pretty transparent.

Even my my friends sometimes, they say, oh, yeah, you do that when you do that

when you're in the sense that I'm saying, but it's really because they're always being at

table in trying to jazze still, yeah, there's sometimes we're there someone

who gets uh, we're going to we're we're going to they're like they're they're very,

they're not they say, it's not say, It's never what the person does not. But you're always implicated in the, you know, the cellul,

the children have always who are always with the grand person. They have all right. They've always all right. They have all right. They're all right

and they all right. And what I like is they're very close. The other, the three are, and they're going to be the

what's what? It's what you have to be, you have to be they're going to be a lot of me, and I think, we have a great responsibility

the parents to try to work on the unity of the fratry. You know, we have like a role

there all the way to do they're doing, and to be doing to and to be to be in because I'm saying

when we're not going to we're doing to be able. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah,

well, yeah, well, yeah, so, what is, what is, what is,

what is, you know, to be, you can, you can choose a other question? A grand

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in place, I'm sorry, because you feel so you've done your life different. What place? Where place I'm

in possession of my way? I'd say, it's an place that's not a place, it's a place.

I'm in possession of my ways, in an an an entretier

like we have in this moment. It's to say I'm able to

to be able to be in the other person. I'm a person that's

a lot of I'm I'm very intuitive I'm not fear of the

revelations and I think I think they they're that I'm

I've had a good Psi I've been a good

person I'm a simple I'm an capacity of

auto-anal a place good and it's a it's a place, but it's a

chan of activity that's in the relational, who is in the human, who is in the accue

of the other, and it's that I think the people people come to and

there's there's there's on, he's on and he's he's he's talking,

he's and then when I'm let's come from Catherine, I'm I know almost not,

and I just to do be able to be able to get to get to get to it's correct,

it's not I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure I'm

feel like, that you have had to be that I because you let that

space. Yes, and I know, and I can know, when the people have

been when the people are going to talk to be and that there,

and that, there, there's a know that it's not a Catherine who want to it's a someone who

they're going to people who the moment that's due. And, other times I know that's to say that

they want to talk about and I think I can't when they're going to when they're just to

ventilate on something or to we're talking to, we're talking to, I know,

and I'm again, again, I'm in a, it's in, it's, it can

have have been pretentious, but no, it's a force that I have to I know who

but I'm in the position of my way, I'm not a person that's destabilized

of the detress of the other. It's not a person that's a pain in me,

by example, someone who is a person who is emu, there are there are there,

and it's correct, who they know that's not, well, don't, well,

do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, do you, I said, no, I'm

I'm just, I'm there, and I'm there, I'm over the heart, and what you're in, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm talking about,

because I'm talking about, but I'm not afraid of silence in these cases that. I can have a power of

silence a year, but I, there, no. I'm, in this space, there,

someone that's someone that has been to someone who has who can he can me

can be me to be in I'm in that you're in a question, I think

I'm in I think that I'm I'm in I'm doing, I'm I'm in many minutes

of ballado that over your own your work, with the great, great

friends chare to my care, and we we're in all right, we're

four, I'm I'm after it can't be long, and I have been

to be I'm I'm I'm I'm a space security for me

for me for to confier that. I'm there, ma'am, I'm there, I'm there, I'm like,

and is it is good. I'm doing. I'm a return, it's a little I'm, yeah, and I'm

a person very instinctive, if two, three, three times in the day, I think to someone,

it's because I'm going to do you do you know, I'm going to I'm thinking to today, I'm a

I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a yeah, I'm I'm a yeah, I'm a

there's a there's a there nothing that's not for nothing. I've

seen today, it's not for a thing. I've thought to it's a

very to be that you know, that's that's, I'm a little

a little sortier. But it's a place in the relation of the where I

feel in possession of the time, and it is verbalize to my

little there's a lot lot I'm in my time, you I'm not, I'm so much

my and even the people that I know not and that I don't know and that's like it's like

it's like I'm not I'm not to say the person who particularly to say Pat,

it's got to do you, do something to do you have something that you feel like so,

or I'm, my antennas intonamate are not still so much so much

maybe because it's more confrontable because of some it's not it's that it's

that it's to touch it's that there's not different. Exactly. So, when my friends, you know, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, their time, their doubt, their confidence,

so it's not not really, personally. But when it implic, maybe my antennas are more retracted,

like, and when you're going to be after a vacation, for example, because, is that's more

easy, to, to, to go to to your love, and he'd be,

even not in vacance, you, I think, the two recently we've seen we've got to

that that like I'm I'm I'm in many of I'm in this

business is very very combled my my we're a super group we're

we're we're we're he's very present for me but sometimes

I'm not always the reflex because I think our we're not

we're not we're not even if it's it's it's if it's

if I'm I'm I'm I feel fatigued, I'm more anxious I'm not

to say, oh, be there, she's anxious at cause of because of my life family,

is she'll not do you. Exactly. So I'm going to ventilate to my because I

want to not to put in a position of doubt by the about me, it's a principle of

preservation of the other also also there's that I think that's quite a same,

but spontaneously that I'm that I'm in plain possession of my mind.

Is that you have already a psychologist? No. Never. Never.

But, you know, at you know, when you know, when we do you know, to see, the end of, yeah. It's the

job, I'm in the social, I'm, that's not long of that. Not long. So, so, so, so,

so, so, it's, the intervention, the , you know, the, the, the,

the, the, the, , the, and, to, recognize the business,

the other, I'm, I'm, I'm, in the 20th, the 30th, we

We want to be, if our friend we talk, it's a word of advice, she know, no,

there's finally, I'm like, no, you're not no, you're not just, she'll be

just, she's heard, yeah, yeah, I'm, who I'm, who I'm, who's,

I'm, but it's for that the people go to the end, because if you

talk to someone who don't all the time, they're talking, they're

when you when you continue to listen, you can, you can, you're you're

probably your Yes. When you can you can't deploy your whole story without

being interrupted to all the phrases, because you will not to tell you don't, it's not,

it's a person, when you're when you're when you're saying, well, I'm listening, I'm listening,

I'm saying, I'm not it's better, or more worse, or, you know, and then to ask you

to ask you to work like that. You relance? Yes, because, and, well,

it's perhaps a reflex of animatrice that I, I don't know, but there's something I try to guide to

give to give for, for don't know if you'd say, is what you say, is that you say that you wanted,

you know, you wanted, is you want to do you want to do you, no, or contrary,

you have, you know, it's, it's a, it's a curiosity real that I know. But it's

like you to pose a question for the other. Yeah. It's like it's not you want to

you want to get the other to get to have to have a response to her.

It's like to auto respond in the phone. Yes, it's a question of the question.

Yeah, but you're you're not to listen to get to be able to see what I'm not. I'm not

you know, but it's true, it's really, it's really, you really, you know, it's really that

you're able to you know, when we're all right, you do you're doing the same after when you do you're

proposing these angles different, what you make that change the perspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's super important. I can't understand.

When you're going to be. But they're doing the same thing for me, it's the two-cote. Oh, yes, that notion that, of the amity for me, it's an amity that, that's, that's, that,

that, that, I've made a good mnage there down, I, of, in a fashion natural, but for me, the amitia that I share the plus

in my view in this moment, it's the same, there's one of, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, but I've got many, but I've got many,

but I've got many, but I'm, a girlson also with who I exchange it's precious for me that's just

that's that's this space the more also. Nive Ruge, Catherine.

I'm on three. And you're chosen one one single. I'm chosy no.

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I'll say my rapport with the more, I'm not afraid of my proper death. It's not something to what I think. My my rapport with the

life is more in line with the people that's more of the people that's more

difficult I'm I'm in age my parents are 80 are very in form my

my tents my my own proches are there but it's sure

that we're never to be to be to be to be proche. It's

trotle, I've crossed a concessance, really the week of my last week he's talking to be you're saying,

you know, but I'm like, but I'm like, God, no, I'm, don't know, when they're not when they're

not, I'm can't think to that's a life, I don't the life, I don't the death, it's,

it's the two grand certitude that we're, we're, we're, we're, we're not, we're not,

we're sure that the death, of the life, but there's like a there's like a that I'm amorting and I don't know

how to amorting that you know you can't because you know people are people because you know is that you've ever lived

a deuce? I've been my grandparent my grandmom I've got to my grandpapa paternal I have two

memories of my grandpapa Lucien I have three years when he is part he has had been, there were

there's a lot, and my old grandparents, I was there my family, I'm in, my grandmary Estelle,

we're still, but it's not a relation, it's a relationship, it's a relation that I'm there,

there, we're not a lot of little little kids' and it's not something that I'm

not quite for a but she, but she is dead, Estelle, she had me had been

in four and I'm back in that, she she had seen, and that, I was just a comedian,

and she was very to be proud to talk about that she's the Chumdebred I said that she had been she,

and it's her her little she was there so, so I'm not very pretty pretty of me,

not maybe, it's for that the people who are people who were parted to my family, it's

that I didn't, but that I didn't, but I had not there was a day,

that you've got that's ataparry or... No, there's a The dewee familyal, which is important, is the departure

of my uncle, Gilles, who was the brother of my mother of my aunt, and the friend of my aunt, Louise, who is dead,

who has made fin at his joe when I were little, this mor, has tainted the history of my

family. It's a person that exists in my family. I even written a book there that's called

the Tase of Gilles, it's called like that, to say, to say, he exists everywhere to show

it's a potier, and there there there's objects that he has Fegil

in my house. I have a gardener of flowers, I have a vase in our

in our many people the Trudeau I'm there in the object and it's attente my

family that that grand depart dramatic that but I

don't but I'm but it's not great because it can't quite

but I'm in a new a time and

I'm you don't by what I don't know if I can start by what to start.

And it's a little to say that I said that I'm talking to me choice, you know, that I think,

I'm going to be goreous, to me choose, well, I'm going to your mother, you know, it's not

eternal, but you understand, there's something that's in duality, and there sometimes I'm

say, is, is that I do you do do you do do something conscious for

to come to be to be in the absence that's, in the sense that's the sense that's

that you do you but the argument is to I have I'm I'm used to

live without these persons so I'm not I'm not all I'm it's ridiculous it's ridiculous

to think to make to think I'm just a kind of of year to do that

you're like you're like, but you're not because you're have too

bad. It's like if you want to desensibilized we're in desensibilization of a situation

future. You know, I'm not the same rapport. You know, I'm not the same

rapport with my two parents. I have a very relation with my two parents.

He not brought not the same the same. I have the two things that

they're there's there but it's sure that there's there's a

thing, it's sure We'll, we'll lose to their parents. There's a... Yeah, and also, you know, they're not maligned,

these parents. No. You know, when the malady fra. It's not that we're... It's not

that we're... It's a minute that you're a parent, you know, it's a cancer who's, who were...

You're incurable. I was searching the word. I said curable, but it's not that. Incurable. Well, she've lived

a lot more than we've thought that we but the minute that the nons, it's all change.

Yeah. You understand, it's too change. So, so it's for that, it's like you make up in a promise. It's like you

say, well, if you can't be a year. Because the time is counted. Because the time is counted, because the time is

to work, you continue to and get to that, but that it's added with a charge emotive, you know, for that

I think when the people are in the people are to profit, but without to make, without to

make on the voice of evitement, but to to profit while they're in-saint because it

bascule too and then to have a obligation also. It's so it's

that where the balance I'm that's sure that when I have used the contract

of anti-gang we know, we know for how the time we're for one or two

years, we're not when a when a series when a exact, of that

of this emplear and I mean, I'm like I have made a sign

in the saying, now I want my family, because I talk to my parents, my friends, my friends, my very proche, there I want a dome of protection

during this period that will durer the series. Because I don't, and if it arrive, I'm going to get it, you know, I'll have not the choice. Because I

want to be this person present for my proches if they have been the same to me. I'm very to let's do

work for to go the moment that's going to I'm going to regrette

that according my capacity by my capacity it's a it's a sweet it's a sweet

maybe maybe maybe there there's there's I'm I'm able to be a person

capable to accompany and I'm not to do not for all all of all all sort of

something of something of hypothetical but I've been emmy this way, I'm going to okay, it's not

that's okay, it's not for that I can't be able to that I'm safe. It's so. You know,

you know, you know, that's a question of departure in a chikot, is that we can't be

to prepare to that? I don't. I think not. I think not. I think not. And, you know,

when you know a car of incurability, I don't it's a word that exists, but I just that

Well, we're not the choice. And I think that it's not a fault because I want to be in the judgment, but there are some people who live like that, all their life, the crain of the perth. I'm not like that. I'm not like, oh, if I'd have to lose it, if it was to lose my son, oh, if it had to my father, I'd love my son, if it's the last time that I'd recorce and that I'd say to my mom,

I'm, I'm going to live up, we'll live up no, we're not. No, no, it's but you know, but you know, but you know, you know,

we're not just, they're living, they're living, they're present, we're in front and we're not going to, I'm not a

I'm not a person who's, you know, but the question, is what is, the question, is what is your report with the

more, is, it's that I, I'm not the choice, I'm not the choice to accept that,

the mine, like my proche, and at the moment coming, that it was their decision, that's

tragic and that so that so that's that's that's rapidly, without

it will be that it will be that it will have to this image

of the life, this perspective of the life, I'm again,

like all all what I'm going to be I'm and I want,

and I'm doing, with the things with the at this moment. We're going to

learn a time. I think it's difficult to lose a parent but it's

sure that it's sure that it's not that's my time. But, you know, I've

lost a grand, grand am I a baby at the birth on a

un-of- a family, I think, that's that's on that's when I'm

that's during the time, it's, I'm this part that, this,

I'm always made profit of the life. And the per per se hard to

say, is it hard to say, there's a doubt. It's the culpability also of what it's tough

a suicide by a part to that. Is that we would have been how it's how it's

how it but I think the malady after that if it's really by malady

it's okay the minute that a diagnostic that is difficult that is a disease that's a

incurable, or or a cancer that you think that it's correct, finally, well, all of what's the contrary that arrives, and you know that

we'll get this amy that, you know, you know, you know, that's true, you know, when you see,

when you know, that's the other, I think it that's done a new perspective to our life, to, you know,

it's all the time cliche the moment present, but the moment present, it's just life and stop to report,

you, in a time realist and not think that, and then it's a more,

but there's something when you go to go to the more, especially when you go to see, I've found

something to do with that in the departure, in the finitude, the departure, I had an

impression to continue to be to be not long, which it was like a quite,

in the chamber, and that it was like it's like it's like there's I've

who I've, I've, I've, I've, I'm, I'm going to be there on

the moment of the departure. And I think I think that I'm in a person

that's, I'm and I'm and I'm and I'm and I say, it's a

privilege to be there when one of our proche there, I think, I think

we're I'm a fear of the inco- but it it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, And I think that's, in case, what I've seen, it's like it's like it's

like the power of my proper death, and it's just after that's how I'm going to see,

there's quite there's, but there's like a there's like a place that that you've been in the

death, the death the departure, arrived without resistance, you'd say, it's what you

did, my mother my mother, she, she, she, we had done three months,

he's had done it had been three months, he, with a cancer. It's an accroached. Oh, yeah, it's very crochet.

He's done all the treatment. You know, in saying that it prolonged, but that it's

not curative and that, my friend, he said, he said, he had said, I'm not to die of

September. It's a month exceptional. And he is more the October. It's

like he has lost preys, it's like, he has made like a choice in the

month of October because he he's he's he's he told in the

coming and he he said, he said, but no me dissuade not. There's no pressure. There was like a bit of humor there's a lot

because I celebrated these funerreary and it's also to celebrate these funerreary is something of great. When the person

when the person when the person when I'm like that when I'm finished to celebrate the funerer divan

he had all right I'm just I'm sorry and there there had a chair there was

there ever at the at the salon funererer there was that there had a chair there's a chair

there's really, I had a presence all the long, you know, sometimes I brawere, and I had an impression that they'd say, okay, uh, I'll, you know, forget, uh, you know, we'll not that's, okay, you're telling, you, I've seen, like, I was, like, I was, you know, I had, like, I had, like, I've had, like, you know, the rituals are important, also, in the accompaniment, you know, it's important, you, to be with the person, but, to be with,

also, in the last time that we render a homage, to be it, to be playing, to be it's not doing, well, there's a thing, we're going to do that

we're in it's the last time that's the time we're doing this in the way, they're in

they're not not all all the they're on the question, so I'm on the

questions, the questions, the the problems, the difficulties surmounted.

I realize that, you're in attending talking about talking about, you're to me

prepared to my proper more, or my comforted in my proper

depart, I don't, it's that, you know, I've been too, I've been my grandparents

at a moment where, or, or, or, or, or, the relations

that are important for me, but not so much, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm, so I'm, so I'm, so, I'm, don't, the,

it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, you know, you've been in the,

more, you've been, to have, yeah, who, did you, so, who it's

that's on or who they've done the incal to just to be in a few I'm

I'm I'm sure I'm know, I'm so I'm know, I'm

not the I'm not I'm not I'm that's that if it can't that

in the person that respecting their their their limits

all all all all all all all I'm

how I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm like not

have been an affair markant that may in this sense that in my life

so I'm not that I'm not and it's correct it's my destiny, it's my

way I'm saying but it's a constant that I say that's a question that

there's not there's not something that's there's something that what's what I'm

what's what I'm what's it's it's the problem it's the It's the departure of someone of my family who has tinted the history

familial. It's the departure of an incoenue that I've been, in any of the case, I've been repoled to be talking to some people, but there's a accident tragic a few years in a cinema park and, I was there were a-do, of, the parents who had vied that. And then, that's tragic, but it's not my mom. You know, it's not my mom of my family and an amy proche. Someone that I don't know not, and I'm not found out of it.

at this moment that's a traumatism it's a moment that I'd like I'm in not living

but I'm not a grand scale of the people who I'm I'm in a real of the

I'm sure I'm fat all that's all that's flat well, well, well,

but it's because it's for that you say you say you're that you're because I'm not the

choice because there I'm not if I'm not used just that well it's a

it's a time It's not fatalist, it's that, the life, so I'm living the, the more time possible I'm

going to be, it's going to be, but it's I'm trying, because I'm thinking that I'm more because I'm more in assurance,

of all the what we're talking we're talking about today, you know, the limit, the limit of the other, my capacity

of accueue, all that. But, yeah, but, you know, it's, it's, I'm sorry,

when my mom when my mom had happened, well, I'm saying, I'm, I'm a cancer of pancy,

metastatic, blah blah blah. You know, my parents, and you're in gaspizis, I'm going to, I'm going to be able to live here, you know, I think

for, for so over our relationship, it's always more to keep a little distance. And when he's gone to get married, three years after, he'd live at home.

Ah, yeah, you know, because we never had never been, you know, you can't know how we're not to know how

we're not, we're not, we're trying, we're trying, we're trying, we're doing, we've been they've been

their mansion after, you're she's never returned, they, she, she had never returned there.

And we'll live it in family. We're not not protect the children of that. They're not

the problem. The malady is what? The perth is what? We're going to be around the table.

When you will be the treatment, we'll be there of the we're there all there all right,

and it's like a number of shock but as you said even if I had lived over

before, I think that each case comes to get touched something different.

It's sure. But but it's But it's for that's for that that's that's it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, uh, uh, the re-ameneagement of hour, a perth an,

you know, it's, it's like, emotionally, physically, there's, there's a thing,

when you're saying, you, because it's, you know, because it , you know, it's,

it's not been when we're again, their parents, you know, we're, we're, We're always their

children. But when you're given a man, you're access to have access to a new state

to get to get to be there. I'm like, I'm doing my own parents, you know,

I'm going to see, that's for that's why, you know, it's for that's a way, it's

not the same way, you know, it's not the same the person who quit she, she,

she'll, she, she'll, she'll, she can't she, she'd be more easy

that's, that's, that you know, maybe, you know, You know, you've said something important.

I think that the person who par, the way, the way, we know for the future.

It's not to say that there's not a deux, but to know that the person she part

in peace, well, it's more too, that's that's so it's more d'o,

it's sure, that's more that if someone don't want to let them let's go, because, you know,

the people who their children. Yeah. Some it's the kids,

before to start, you know, these children who are people, who are calmer the parents.

Yeah, it's, you know, it's so it's a lot of these children, that, the children

in saying, well, it's the same, exactly, and you're like, but it's so.

What are these children? Yeah, no, I can't not, I can't

me to see to see It's so, the force of the people, it's like,

you know, in the adversity, there's a something, it's good, that, someone who

knew, you know, it's, you know, it's France who's the , France, Bauda,

and when we go, in the question, there, there's, there, there,

and it's, it's a long time, it's, it's, it's, you're not, because,

there's something of them, I'm saying, and, and it's, there, it's all It's very easy to say that.

But it's what we do in Blague with my times when I'm going to I'm going to eat cheese, and you go get some of my little bit more and you go to

do you want, what I like the most I like the most to do you know, it's a lot of a cell, we've done to do you have donece and I'm

going to do you know, but you know, this space of line in the universe to say, this famous phrase

rejoice you rejoice you that we can be known I think to me that's fun, you can't be sure that's why I said

I'm not afraid of my proper if you're so t'emate that she'll not be in a suffrable

and I'm not sure but the people around the people are that they're in peace

with this depart and that they're to have a but they're a good I'm

let's be let's go I'm I'm not I'm trying I'm bringing a grand inspiration

but I don't I think I'm I would, I'd reven to talk about if it's a

never, but I don't be in a retinue. I think that the best be a good thing is to be able to

a little bit more about the maternity, is we don't two things to our children, the racine and the

and my guys, I say, my job is to be to be a tutor, it's to be a tutor,

it's to do you, it's to flyer, I'm not, I can't to be to guard

to me to be able to to be able to They're not They're not They're not My They're not

They're not My own My own And that's That's a exercise that I'm to make

to make to get a start to get the detachment I'm I'm trying to my

way to me, to me to me detach without too of suffering

of the people in your in your in my opinion in my point.

Nive Ros we're going to you're you can't you can't you can't

you can't answer a Nive Rose. Gatche, it's my Schiff, chanceo. Here. Thank you, Madam.

Is it easy for you to express your desire to your own after to after me with what you

do? Are you at lise with the nudity? What place do you to have your intimate and

what role I'm in the intimacy emotional in the relationship with your

love? Oh, wow. We're I guess I see not the difference. Why is it? Wait, what place

accorded you at your life, to do you know? Oh, yeah, okay. And you're at a-lis

with the nudity? It's easy for you. Well, so I've responded, plenty of times. It's

for the les of the leser. And you are at with the inditit I'm going

with that? Yeah. I've never I've never talked, I'm not to say,

I'm not to say to be to be to be to be It's a role because, very too, in my

my career, I joined a role in cinema, two roles in my career where I was new, nude,

as we said. And then when I was very, very, and then, that's all right, and I remember that I had

not avertie my parents that I'd do in a film, it's a shlaga, for not it not he would not be. And

and, in a parenthesis, when we reconnoen, I'm talking to Shlaga, I always have a little malise, because I have three

scenes there in, one where I'm in the toilet with Michelle Chorrette and I'm in the film, and a scene where I'm not

very abeyed with Jean-Nikoro when the people all you see, I'm like, hmm, yes, yes,

you have you this cassette at the house? Is it you have you looked before y'an? If you're you're

I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, then I'm, I'm saying, you're

getting the contract, and it's been there's not a malice on the plate and that, but, but I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, as we say, trigger warning my parents, for say, Papa, Mama,

I, I'm a film, it's super, and then I'm, I'm sure, I'm in school,

and I'm playing in a film, it's a thing that's about, I'm a thing, I'm a thing, a thing, of motor,

pap, pap, pap, and there, I don't, I know I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not not for averty, evitement, evitement of anxious, I've said, it's, it's,

it's, I'm not, I'm, so, he, he, he's not, he's not,

he's not, he's not, to, see, a film, with the first, the first, because I,

because I was 25, 25, you, 24, 25, it's my first time

when I'm from the school, so, clearly I was at least at this moment your

time were probably in the cinema and we can understand why I'm but you can't but but you

but you're but you're correct I was correct I had not a problem I'm attending I know that

I'm at what I'm attending but I'm that I'm my my my my

with the with the with the advancement of the age I'll repra of

my expression it's It would be an realizate or a realizate

or a realisattor to work to be new at the screen

partially or in a totality that said, I'm would be

able to be able to a message that can say, not a message, but a

reality to say that we don't know that's the family of 50 40,

40, whatever, 70, there, a car, new, And I've seen a film recently that's called

Rue Malaga with an actress exceptional that's called Carmen Mora and who has a relation amoeoose there

and there there's a moment magic I've had the tears on the two person ined new

of a way and a question delicious and and I'm really much and I'm I'm trying I'm thinking

why we're why we're not that why we see not these cars,

that. It's not had not used I'm not not used to be it's not

something that's just that's just that's not to be able but I'm

a little in the other in my personal in quite quite

quite quite at least but not with my my , you know, I've

pretty much with my girls' it's a little quite, and we're in the bed, we'll

have the hair, I'm in the time, I'm doing I'm doing with that, with that,

more than that they, I think that's a moment, to have a good of and that

they're one also, you know, that's too, he's they get in their

mao of their pocket, the port of the car car, the I've seen I thought it's a

like, well, you know, my son, you know, you know, you're a four years, but it's a part of the apprenticeship,

you know, of who's, who's, I think, that's very sane. So, is that I'm at like my nudity by the other?

It's a real, I've had a very conversation with an friend of a week, I'm saying,

if we had in a spa private, it exists, there's chalek that you can have a

spot private, I see, our poor more in a sauna when we're not a new, you know,

I'm going to see. I'm going to I'm going to I'm sorry, but I'm saying, we need to

we're going to be able to get to do and say, we're going to pass by the we're doing this we're doing

the Texine so liberate and we see, we're doing we let's, we're, braise this taboo,

you see, look me like, for five minutes you can all you can't look to go,

go, I've never did that to go in an space nudist, I've been,

I've used this question with some this discussion with these friends recently recently. And I'm a beau

difficult for me to say hey, we're in space security some people and it

and it would be, it's a real for me to me, to me say, okay,

I'm going, but it's not a business you're not, I'm not, but I

I would have been to give that to separate the nudity of the sexuality of the desire. It's that

I think that I think that I have to be that we have to separate that, we live

when we get that we're that's a perspective. The nudity, you know, the sin new that

nouris it's not the same thing, but it's kind of an object the sin,

it's our femininity so, it's our sexuality too, it's these are erogenous for

certain women, several women, with reason, but when we dissociate to that,

when we're like it, it's a different perspective to this appendice of us, completely.

So, the nudity to associate, but I remember of my coverture tombe

and then, and there, a friend, a cousin, he said, oh, my God, and I

, and I'm, and I I'm not going to have to be see that I can't feel like that's because in certain in certain

civilizations in certain society in certain society don't the other Occidental the sain is very associated to, yeah,

the femininity the sexuality the, well yeah, the pornography or the desire it's very so,

although an mother who there's a there's something of a more dull and of more

paisible generous to say that we're completely completely but I'm going to to go out of

but is that I'm at least with the nudity? And is I'm at least with the nudity of the other? It's all that's just,

like the nudity on the scene me mehue because, I'm not the same rapport when it's in cinema or at

the TV. On the it, it takes a long-lanchet I think. I think I'd

more of facilitation, it's tonnable if I come to my travel. Sur-sene. Yes,

because there something that rest not. And it's a moment that we're partied to us this night, what's we've ever seen? And what I perceive when I've viewed when I've been

seen when I feel like it's a privilege, who are in trying to live. I remember, I've lived with Norman Schwinnard, who was my director at my formation conservatory, who had played Don Quichotte in TNM, in a mis-in-saint in a formidable of Dominique Champagne,

and he appeared in his most simple apparel, Norman, at a moment in a place, in a moment of delir in his don't kishot,

with his albarde and his cask and he was my director. It was an actor that I admire infinitely that I admire

again, it's an man who was my superior, my director, and there he is on the scene and he is

all new. But it's an act of an act of an endor to tell generosity to a gesture

artistic to the vision of a mentor in scene, And at the There's like a little shock In the room

My God, it's a normal I'm gonna, he's all new You know, there's like that We see that. We see that But after that

three seconds that we're in the detail of the head to the foot, it's party. And there's a notion, I

think, as as a spectatress in all what I've been, of a privilege to assiste to this abandon

of an interpreter and the vision artistic. That I feel that magnificent. And it's something, is a

bull that that's a person who was in a story, and it's the beauty of the ethemeteral,

it's a depopement total. But it's that, the nudity when we think, why,

we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, why it's why it's

a new, but I'm, but I'm just the regard also, not just the regard of the other, it's the regard

to make sure, it's, to be, you're to be very at alex with his completely.

You know, because here there are people who have been there's a question there.

There's a fact of winter. Ah, yeah. And there for who it's not

that's not that's but there there's there there's in the confrontant

for certain person. But, you know, just the notion, it's confronting

for me for me and there sometimes, you just when you're in a mayo.

I've it's not long time that I'm able to be able to be a while in a while it's a little

so much imagine my nudity you know, so how it's like it's like it's like it but what I'm not,

we're going to, we're going to wow, wow wow, wow, look there there, you know, I'm,

I'm, if I'm not a percy, thank but that date to say, you're don't

so, you know, this kind of commenter that that I, that I received some kind of, to be just an effort for me,

to be serried or, you know, to have a party of foffoon or a, you know, a cuis or all. For many people, it's hard to be in a mayo, for real, that's a reality, but, now, to be new, it's a depuement total. But it's for that I said

that it would be a great exercise for me, to me present in depuement total, I'm, I'm not desirable in the sense where I'm but the nudity for me, it's, we've got to disson.

But it imposes the respect, I think. The way that you present. At a moment, it's it's on the scene nude. I think it's true, it impose the respect. Like you know, to do it, to go to as long as that for us to make a moment also. Yes.

You know, there's an exchange there in, and you say, tab, right, okay, he's all right. Okay, he's all right. But I think that in a... You know, I'm talking with my perspective of comedian, it's a lot of my perspective of comedien, it's always always to watch these films,

these series, and to me say, but why it was new, the girl? Why it was there to make it to make all new? We'd

that we had the desire of these two people, we know? Is it? We, and we,

we, and we're talking in a facility. You know, we've got to to it's all to say, the interpreters

who are coming on, we've never, to get got to new, rarely, we've seen the face Claude Legge

there's a 30 years and we're on because you understand it's too it's

too it's too it's very much the family on TV in cinema and it's

not always magnified and I'm more of a nudity bruted we're something

to something to deguise so if it's so it's because you have it's

it's like it can't what I mean it's you want to it's a It's a part something.

It's a apport to something. For that some of I'm more of pardon, not of pardon,

but an accue for an nudity that's assumed. It's two people who live a moment. But, again, I

say, I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, to find a scene or, if I'd like,

that I'd be bross the d'en, like in my life I do, you know, I'm brosceled, I'm just

to get, I'm just, I'm just, a scene, a scene, you know, It's not a scene that's not a scene that exists. Yes, but it's a super question.

Bravo for this question, you know? I thought I'd have nothing to say there. I mean, I guess, I'm going to, I'm saying, she's not, she's very revelatrous, we'd say, in the same time. You know, there are some people who are, like, for example, I think we've not aborted with,

I think we've had to, I think we've had to be able to write, but since this question, because, Because of Debbie, she, she was dancing with Danny St. Clair. You know, so, she, so, she, so, she, I mean, she, she, she had made the cover of a magazine, and I'll forget, where she was completely nude, she, sat there on a bank,

and she, we had like that, you know, we had just on the face to the coat, and I had said, but, it's who, she, she, it, it, was interpolling, because it, it was, it, it was artistic, there, there, there, there, a message at that,

And she, she's completely liberal. And, you know, I was curious, she's curious, but after that, she said, I think it's

because she had with Danny St. Pierre, in the case, she was for that she was that I thought fabulous.

She had found fabulous. She, to have this liberty, that, it's like a level of liberty,

where your car, you'd exploit completely, but, but, but, not,

not at any every price, you know, it's just that, It's part of your uties,

on the idea, you know, it's a nudity. Yes, I'm and you know, and you know,

and it's important to show, it's important, to make sure that's why I mean, it's a

real thing, to me to say, to say, I'm, because, I'm, because,

I'm, I'm, there, there was an initiative a moment of a moment of,

I think, it's Julia Tachot a, a photographer who had had made that,

she, she'd encouraged the women on their publication to envoyed an photo of her, to make their grandeur, their poe, and their

tithe, of vets. And it's been formidable. Because, there, I'd say, I, and I, and I'd saw a little, let's see, let's seeterre and a-migh, in her, and she'd in her, and she had, she had the same menstruation

than I, the same model, grandeur, size, and I'd surpreon to do, and, and, And so my Belle, oh, it's the same model

of car than I'm so I'd like that I'd never be to be to say,

oh, no, this jup not, this jup or whatever. And Deby, who is a

great amy to me, precious to I, she knows to help, and she

in, in being in a plainly to be, to say, my God,

you, sometimes I'm Debb, in her grander, I, I, I,

I, I said, the other time, my bra are not the door to because you're cost of the other and I'm

like that you're like a lot of you know, and it's a time I'm in the space public because it's a lot

I'm doing a lot of I don't know it's a Quebec or a clind of I'm not I'm not

there, but there there wereone with there, I think it's in 2010 it, it

it's been it's been she had she knew, uh-huh, and I'm sure, We had at the mission

two-file-mattain, Jeanette Bertrand, he'd invited, and we'd and we're talking to this, you know, she's, she,

she's not, it's not audacious. That's a car that's a good car, the audace had been to me to me

to know, is that would have done, yes, she'd have done. Because

there, there's there's, there's there's like the same, that's that at the

time, she had maybe, perhaps 80- -ke- -year, and it,

it, it had really rented in, she's, okay, they're doing, so, when they're,

they're in, she's, because she made very much Ronnie Clothed Brasot, but it's, it's not

that's not that's a little that's a interesting, when you're with the other lunette,

huh? But the lunette of the idea of the exactly, so at the time,

she had done you she had been she said, she, she'd she'd say,

but she's , but Janet, it's what is, is, is, is, is,

audacious to be new, it depends. It's that, no. Well, yeah, no, it's a depend. For one, it's a very, very audacious, but to show that. But for Jeanette, she had said, but that,

we see that all the time. Yeah. Ah, it's good. Yeah, yeah. Question opto-reszo. Yes, my cher. What is the little Catherine would say to the

woman that you are? What's she would? I think she'd I don't know would. I think she'd not.

You, she, what she'd what she'd I would I think she I think she would

not a I'm not that I'm very spontaneous that I'm that's very expressive that I'm

very open that I'm so much when I was I was all over that I'm timid

I'm anxious I'm discreet I'm discreet I'm could pass in the top of the

topy, in the door I'm I'm not so I'm didn't I'm

very very good an elieve by my open up my

open up she would she would she would be able to because I'm I'm just

when I'm I'm even more but I'm I'm a good elive I'm

you know plair market of the authority the authority I'm

I'm I'm I exist in a card I'm I'm

not not on default so to be that I'm more more that I'm

that I'm that I nais that I dance overtly I'm sorry to dance before all the whole of all

I'm all right I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I don't know I don't know I'm in my life,

there's not a element of the clasher but when I was I think she I think she

she would she would she she'd be she she'd be that she's that

I don't know that it would be possible to do that's not No, and it's it's like the

it's probably because I'm not because I'm I'm not a child maybe I'm not

a champion of cheques or champion of cyclism I'm I'm in the imagination the creativity

I'd I'd design I'd I'd I'd I'd do some I'd

do you're doing to do TV of recette my with my friend Sophie, we're playing today, we're going to do the pantacelle.

And then, camera A, camera B, you know, I'd have this little Ville, you know, in the creativity and the imaginable and the game of role.

But I'm talking more of the little, you know, I'd be able to, you know, you're a little tortoo,

I'm a little tortoise, I'm ginned, timid, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

my memory, my My souvenir, it's that of my infance, that I was very timid and so

it's an so that's a tonn't that I'm not a first one of the person who's not the

first, you know, I'm anxious, timid, machin, and he's ramse at the front of

the cell of three people, it's a discor- it's a moment of a moment of

a moment of a moment, we, we're in a way, an open an over okay,

it's that my way to existe, it's by the communication, it's by to make re-remover, raconte.

It's like that I... Rentry in the Poo of someone of other also. Also. You know, there's something also there

in the possession, to make a personage, I'm impression always. In being, with you, it's,

it's a creativity, it's, it's probably that it's probably that it's just to get

to the situation. It's what I did all the time, and it fascine always the When you know, when we we know the

discussion, we're after with the public and the people, I've played the pair with Mark Messier, and the people

me said, it's a, the father of Floreer-Zerler, it's the character of his son equilibrium

cognitive, and my, the girl, I've played in his case, is in these equilibbe complete by

about her not, who's, who's, who's, who's, he has a conflict

over and all, and a and a resistance when you're to be in general me saying how do you

do you think to do you have you have you a parent or a proche who had you in degenerations

cognitive and I said no but how you do you do that for me it comes to I don't

have been to have been to do you for the way to it's what the situation it's a

situation where a woman is in a stress or in because his father

not they're not that's a question I'm not I'm not, I tell you

I've been I've been able to believe in my Not Yet. But it's your observation of the human also because you have

a force of hearing, you're a force of observation. I think, and it's also there's not a single

way to live the distress. There's not a recet. I, I'd be a event that I've

been very very pre, a event tragic in a cinema park, and we're we've got

an idea of how a parent can live to learn that his son and partied.

And this day, this night, I've got a one one's

one way to play the distress of a parent that's their parents,

it's, because the people that, they're they've been like, they're

they've seen, it's, it's there's there's no no way

there's no the There's just how you interpret. You know, you interpret? The dey, the pain, the frustration, is it in the cries, is it in the

the lardom, is it in a paralysis, is it in an apathy, is it in a... a denie, at the limit, leg, to say, well, no, it will come, he will be reveigh, tomorrow, he will be there.

I've seized this night. It's a day. It's a nourituritur of actress extraordinary, but, unfortunately,

it's, for me, to say, wow, there's not no bad no way, there's

just the choice that I'm doing, to concert with the realisation or the matre on

scene, the matter of on set, what we can't, we're, we're, we're,

it's, the apat see, what's it does, see the grand cry, the alarm

that's it does it, and it's the paralysie that does. And, and we chosen after

what's it's it's really the great creation well, it's to say that

when it's question of emotion, there's not a good or a bad or a bad

and there people go to an explosion or other will live in a

way of and we can't say, oh, I'd not have been

of mine, well we're and we can also to the exterior oh my

my God has done done oh my She has Perdu her Her son

She has not a She has been She has been She's She's not She's not She's not

She's like She's about She's a She's That's all That's So, that When I'm

When the People When I'm Pige In what You go Pige I'm

Pige in An Inneettet A Choir A Choir And I'm And

And the Cereereur D'E And Is it You Seend In this

zone there? Of the exploration? Yeah. It's my boat preferer. Tantote the question

in which space you're in full possession of your professionally it, it's there, it's in the research, it's in the

theater, in the period of repetition. It's like I'm the more because it's an space

protect where we work, or we can't, or we're trying, where we're saying, if I'm

a week, I'd play a one, I'm not that, I'm That, it has changed, by example,

from the last year's but I'm starting, after a week, after a week, I'm sorry, I had an impression that I'd have been and I'd say, and I'd be as

a joke, and it was also emuvoment in the nia, and I'd be playing, and t-t-t-ta. There, in the last piece that I've

had the chance to have the role exceptional in, in these works artis of extinctions and the actors of exception and the metter-in-sense,

that that the representations were in the notion of the notion of it's maybe

that's changed my lunette also, that's changed my regard to me say, the idea is it's not

figee something, we continue to work, we're doing, the action, reaction,

it's a fine? Yes, absolutely, because it is on a chemea, I,

you know, I'm not with an other proposal, that's, that's what's

it's I'm sculted. I'm afraid of these actors that that who arrive in surprise. It's very I'm sure

the same. No, no, no. But, but, yes, it's more fin and it's

what I'm found, and it's to have to have a pleasure after night. But the

space where I feel the most in possession of my means, even if sometimes it's

confrontant, because sometimes we're on on the people, we're doing, oh,

my God, it's, it's not that much it's not to do what I'm what I

proposed today, it's like I'm when we're when we're when we're when we when we're

when we're not in a marriage to do you know fige the thing I'm the difficulty with that

now figeed and it's all the things that we're saying today and I have deroged

your question but there's a there a there's a Catherine, the woman that she

she would she would she'd be fair of me because I accept not to

me figy in something I'm I'm Fierre to evolve I'm scared to

I'm trying to I'm I'm afraid to be sure to be to be able to be able to know me

that I'm sorry, that I'm that I'm should say otherman or that I'd

have to say that I'm sure that you because I was not the same when I'm

when I was I'm I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry I'm timid, timid,

I'd let's the other shineing it's not me that brought who was ,

it's my friends, it was, it was, it was, it's, it's, it's,

it's, all the while in my regard, for long time in my life, everyone had

more than all the people, I've got, I'm, I'm still, but now, I'm,

the people, the people, that's, it's not to be a woman, we can't be able

to be able to let's, I'm, that, you're, that's, I'm, And you don't, you know, it's your place.

Exactly. And to be fair to me and to admire other women, many other women, but other women, it's not really. It's not really. It's a matter.

It's a bonifie and it's made better, I think, really, sincerely. Thank you, Catherine Trudeau. Thank you.

What good moment? Do you the impression to me connect more? I have the impression to know to know better.

And it It was, it was like, I'm that I'm really, when you're saying, oh, but that's,

I'm going to see, oh, yeah, we've been not, we've even not about, we've been

in a whole, but really you're a career incredible. You've got, your characters, your characters are always

attached, are always, there, there's a time, there's a , okay, we're,

we're going to get to because, in the , in the , you know, to, that,

to, to, to, the, the person, the, it's, the more

than nature. Thank you. It's a gentle, I appreciate. And that's more than an actress, but there I

have seen the woman also. So, I hope you you're just to say you're very, and that's

very, to be, and that for many years for the don't know a domo of security for my proches.

Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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