Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #87 Marc Labrèche | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

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Hello, welcome to Open Your Game, the podcast. Always an honor to meet you. This week, we're having a guest. It's been a long time since I wanted to have a meeting with him, that I want to have a long discussion. He's a man that I've been feeling like I've known for a long time. He's been on my television, the theater, for so many years. He's someone who makes us laugh, but at the same time, I feel a great depth from this man.

And I'm talking about Marc Labrèche. Marc is rare in interviews because I heard him say in a podcast that he did, that he doesn't have much to say. So I have the impression that it's not quite that. I think there's a lot to say, but he agreed to be with us. And for those who know it or don't know it, Marc is having fun parodying me. So, he's the one who's re-opening your game.

He's received up to now two guests to re-opening your game. The first time, he parodied Denis Coderre, and the second time, Véronique Cloutier parodied Valérie Plante. And it's really succulent, if you want to see these two parodies. First of all, I feel very privileged to be parodied by a man of talent like Marc Labrèche. And they really redid the setting, even those who saw it. There are several who thought that Marc had come to shoot here in the studios, and no. So I can't wait to live that with him,

because he imitated me so well that I was still for a few weeks not really knowing how to start Open Your Game, because I saw myself in Marc Labrèche, who is still very funny. So, he will be our guest. Obviously, I want to thank our partners, because thanks to them, we can offer free on all platforms, week after week, episodes of Ouvre Ton Jeu. I am obviously talking about Karine Jonquas, who offers 15% discount on her products if you go to her website,

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People, if they want to go into more detail, they go. Or if they decide to go and preserve themselves through this because they have a certain, perhaps, reserve to talk about this area of intimacy publicly. They can do it. So I find it extraordinary because, finally, it goes very, very well. So my little crests are absolutely dissipated. And so, Eros and his company, our partner, if you do online purchases, So my little I love this question. It's always a question that ends the game well, in relation to the vision we have of our lives. And I think that's all, it all ends softly.

So thank you to our partners. Obviously, you can find us on Patreon. At that time, you will have the preview episodes and you will not have advertising, because it's different levels and it's paying levels. At that time, you will have the preview episodes and you will not have advertising because these are different levels and these are paying levels. You can only have audio, audio, video. So you can go see on Patreon and several podcasters who have podcasts available. What is interesting is that it can be more personalized than the experience we're living.

And you can also go to the Marie-Clobe. The Marie-Clobe is the virtual community that we set up a little over a year ago. Where people, members can meet virtually, where we have different workshops on a range of subjects. We talk as much about parenting, psychology, and consumption. You have your own personal journal, and we have a reading club where I'm with Montguerin, Sophie Prigent, and Guylaine Tremblay. So if you're interested, you can go take a look. And on the platform, you have a week in advance, each of the episodes, and that without advertising. Obviously, a thank you to the team that accompanies me in this great adventure, which is that of

Open Your Game. Caroline Dionne for the coordination, David Bourgeois for the online, Jonathan Fréchette for the digital creation, and Maëlle Le Devin for the capture. So, I thank them. And now, place to the one that we've been inviting for a few times, and finally he agreed to open his game at their place at Marc-la-Bresse. The last Sunday, it took three hours to look around all the windows of the house, to look outside. I don't know what, a window started, I was looking out the window of the house. I was like, what the... She started looking out the window,

and she smiled at me. Then she went to the other window, and I was looking out the window. Then to the other window. She was looking out the window of the house, and I was following her because I thought she might fall. I don't know. She was saying goodbye to her house, to what she saw, to her running, to Saint-Lambert, to all that, to her trees,

to her life, when she saw children running outside. I had those two moments, many others, but those two important moments, which gave me the permission to do it again. So you're leaving in peace too? Yes. Open Your Game is presented by Karine Jonquard, the reference in the care business for the group, available in almost 1000 pharmacies in Quebec

and by the virtual community Marie-Claude Available on Marie-Claude.com The table game Open Your Game is available everywhere in the store and on Randolph.ca Today it's really special, I feel like I'm with my alter ego. I don't know how it's going to go, I'll introduce him to you right away because I'm really happy he's with us. Marc Labresse, welcome! Hey, it's nice to meet you Marie-Claude, I feel like I'm talking to myself. But now I'm looking at you and I'm not going to dress exactly like that next time.

Yes, that's it, it's not going to be a dress. There, the little green T-shirt, quiet, really fun. Yes, you could. Because we have to say that there are some that don't, you have parodied me twice. Once, you play me all the time. Once, you also played Denis Conner. And the second time, Véronique Loutier was Valérie Plante. Exactly. And it's really funny, so much so that the first time, my technicians, including Maël and Etienne,

showed me the parody just before I started opening your game. Oh my God, that's cruel. Well, it's cruel. At the same time. I found it funny, but I didn't know how to do it anymore. I was like, but it's so like me. And when you do that, like that, and then I was like, oh no. Every time I do that now, I'm like, no.

Ah, you have a reflex of... But it's so well done, Marc. Thank you, thank you for doing that. It's a pleasure. It's an honor to be a parody. It's an honor to be a parody and it was very pleasant to do. Indeed, and it's inexhaustible because I can... I can... we can make anyone talk as a guest.

I mean, it's perfect with the cards in place. Everything is perfect. Everything is perfect. I change nothing. Stay is perfect. Nothing changes. Stay there for a long time. So you're going to receive other people or open your game? I hope. I hope. I'd like that. Yes, we've already thought about it, but we can't already have a rhythm.

You can imagine, sometimes it goes a little fast and we don't have the time. But yes, I'd like that. As much as Joe Biden, I'd like to do that. Or you with Trump. I don't know. I like that. Make me Trump. I like that. But we should do it if one day you accept. If one day you accept and the flash comes to me, but we should do it together in Marie-Claude. I would like that. You see Oh, I'd love that! You see, I'd love that! Yeah, we'll open our game, both of us, face to face.

That could be interesting, we could say things. Oh, I like that! Yeah. Or I'd have to do Mario. In any case, there are plenty of plans for that. There's a potential. Potential. And there's another game coming.

It will be announced at the end of January. OK, a new game. A new game that's coming, that you'll probably be able to do the same thing. Ah, a new game. A new game that will probably come out. You'll probably be able to do the same thing. Ah, it's going to be great. But you'll love it. Ah, I'm going to love it. So we'll introduce it to you later.

It won't be today. No, it won't be today, it's too early. But I'll announce it a little later. But that's to say that there are still other forms of cards that are coming. You may have fun with these cards. But you don't want to release it before before Christmas? Because there's a market and... No, because we're going to enjoy another party after. We're going to enjoy Saint Valentine's Day.

Oh, well, yes, it's perfect. It's perfect. It's going to be a handball game. Ah, well, it could be. You can take a handball dedication. And you see, this game, last year, it came out just before the holidays. And not everyone had it in Quebec.

And we quickly exhausted the games. So this year, we was just before the holidays, and not everyone had it in Quebec. We quickly exhausted the games, so this year we recommended a lot of them. So there are some everywhere in Quebec, but we didn't think it would be a success. Well, that's good, it's fun. We did it subtly, and finally it works. I'm happy to have you because you don't give as much interviews as that, Mark. No. Why don't you give as many interviews?

Well, I always say that people are like, ah, it's a defeat, but I have nothing to say. I really don't have much. I find it a good teaser when leaving. No, but it's true. I mean, I don't have a... you know, I don't have much to say about Palpita. And I don't have... I have a very... how to say... I'm not a flat person, because I'm lucky, I'm happy, I'm surrounded. I love my friends, but my family first and foremost, my children, my little son, my... The whole circle around me is wonderful, and my life is wonderful.

But beyond that, I don't know what to say. I enjoy it, but I... And there's a kind of natural reserve that I've always had, I think. Maybe it's because you have a reserve. Yes, I have a reserve and I have a timidity that I realize, that comes to me at a point when I sit down like this, I say to myself, OK, go ahead, or say no if you're not comfortable, or if you're in a period where you're less, I don't know, where you're less in the mood to... But I say that and at the same time I say,

no, it's not true, because I always want to jazz, I always want to talk. Even if I have nothing to say, I'm more interested in others than in myself. I don't feel like having... So maybe that's why, to answer you, I don't do much. And I see so many, there are so many,

that I tell myself, oh,, and I'm in the waves twice a week, often, and sometimes I do fiction and I play in... I find that my presence is quite... it's quite... it's already quite... I pollute the waves. You have the impression that you are... I have the impression that I... yeah, that's it, maybe it's enough, you know, I don't want to be too... not by calculation... You don't want to be too exposed, more exposed than you already are. No, that's it, I don't want to be too... Not by calculation. You don't want to be too exposed,

to be exposed more than you already are. No, that's it. I think it's enough. But in any case, I believe it's a privilege to receive you. Well, it's nice, but no, it was a pleasure. And we also met on my set. And I said, hey, listen, it's one of the least things to make the show beautiful on the one hand, but on the other hand too,

I remembered when you came on the set, we talked about it a little bit before we started, that we had co-animated together quickly, without really knowing each other, a TVA show during the pandemic. And I remembered that it had been, in circumstances that were not obvious, it had been nice to meet you, even if it was brief and framed in a... With lots of sanitary rules. Yes, with lots of sanitary rules, obviously.

We almost couldn't touch each other. But it was a nice meeting. And when you invited me, I said, Oh yes, it's tempting. And it's fun when there's no... When it's done in that way, with no timing, with no... There's something, obviously, there's something in there that's very pleasant.

That's what I like the most, it's real encounters. I've done so many interviews, but when you have a story, you know it, it's the same for you, you have to speed up. Sometimes you hear small losses, but I can't go there because it's not polite to invite him. He won't be able to go until the end of his idea, I'll interrupt him. So I find that when we animate regularly, so many things happen at the same time. To manage time is already something.

Yes, and it also imposes a studio, a variety show or maybe a service show as you did, but in any case, I know the variety program in my case, it imposes a tone and a rhythm, even in the conversation, which is not the one we have there. No, no. So it's like, and it's also pleasant otherwise, I mean, if I didn't like that, I wouldn't do it, but it also imposes, it also frames a...

It's something else. It's something else, it puts another form of limit, and it's interesting otherwise, but it's true that the pleasure of talking like that is the fun. And it doesn't happen that often, in my case. So are you ready to open your game? Yes, I'm opening my game. You're opening your game?

I'm opening the game. So you're opening the game, as you said. So as you would say, these are the cards generated. So when are we going to say, if you have any questions... I imagine these are questions. These are questions. So, you have questions of generated order. It's like I was in a... I'm really in a Twilight Zone right now. But I love all of this.

But keep listening and I'm watching. These are more specific cards. And this is talking about you. Personal cards. You're going to see these. Personal cards. You'll see that. Sometimes you'll use your joker. And we have the Eros level. Oh yeah, the coquine questions.

Yes, coquine, sensual and sexual questions. The little coquine questions. You have the Optoraiso card. It makes it always good to end up opening your game. I like that question. And the joker. That I can take anytime. But which we can't take either. That's it. So it's how you want it.

Well, listen, I want to, because I'm in the observation method at the same time as I answer you, I want to, hey listen, let's go, let's go, I'm the one who chooses. It's the green questions, you have five. That's how it works. You pick five questions, you give them to me, and then you choose one, and I choose one. Okay, so I pick, I pick. Yeah, you know, you give me five. But as long as you imitate me, you'll know everything. Well, yes, I'm really going to, but it's because, it could be that I'm going to play for real, I'm going to play for real.

Christmas is coming. So here we are. We'll give you a game and that's your game. You're going to start with it. So what is your worst flaw? Which person made a difference in your life? What kind of child were you? What character did you have to work on?

And when I look in the mirror, I see. You choose one. And when I look in the mirror, I see. Your choice. Hey, hey, hey, they're all... Frankly, interesting. What is your worst flaw? Well, it's going to go fast. Which person made a difference in your life? Well, that could be...

There would be too many people. But I would go with... On what aspect of myself, of my character, I had to work and work again. I don't know if it's the most fun, but I'll go with this one. But if you hang on, there's surely something to do with that. Well, there's something in there. But I think it's part of my job to talk to you. No, I think that surely patience.

I'm not someone... I'm resilient in life, but I'm not patient. I can't... I'm having a hard time. I'm getting more and more, even though I hope I'll get to something. But it was a long time before I accepted that things didn't go well. All the time, when I wanted things to go well. And when I was, or when I thought I was ready for what was going to happen. So I had to, and I'm still working on it. Because patience can lead to anger too. And when you become patient, of course, that's better. But I could become angry at myself. In your professional life, in your personal life?

A little bit of both, but I would say more professional probably. I haven't been so angry. Otherwise, you put me in the position. What does anger mean to you? It means, for me, it means certainly not forgiving what I could forgive. At some point, I'll say, it's okay, be professionally, even as a man, as a chum, as a father. And I think we're all a little bit like that. At the winter's level, we put ourselves on the edge higher than we can to try to try a. When I couldn't do it, it was long. I started to forgive myself when I couldn't do something

or be the man or the man or the father I wanted to be. There are stages, there are things, there is acquisition that is done by a long path with steps. And now I accept that there are steps more than before. And I tell myself, well, I got there, and I'm going to work to get there. And I hope that one day I will be able to say what I want to say or do things the way I want to do them. Not because I think I'm right, but because I want to be

that good father or that good chum. So it's... But what is also a difficult path between the two to say, that's who I am and that's what I would like to be? What is this distance? I think it may have started this distance when I started to visualize it, when I started therapy. When I started seeing it, I should have done it much sooner.

I should have done it much sooner. I should have started it. It's when you're in it that you realize how great it is, how it makes you think about yourself, and how it can make you move forward and and it can really help you work on yourself in a way I had never known before. So I think I realized that when I started therapy, not once at the beginning, because I was doing a lot of business,

I was going to talk, but I was going back and forth in that work that I started to measure the path I have to take to get there. I don't want to be too abstract, but when you say, OK, where does my impatience come from? And what makes me angry or impatient at myself. What makes it that, and then, well, while discussing and being in this work with a wonderful psychotherapist, that I have been seeing for three years, it's there that I realized that, OK, I have a lot of things to work on. At the same time, what is paradoxical is that I say to myself,

in life, sometimes you can say things right away. I can imagine myself, for example, coming out of a conversation with my therapist, I say to myself, oh my God, I have to work on this, I have to work on that, oh my God, it's going to be long. And sometimes I tell myself, well, no. It can't be that long. I'm going to see the person I have something to say to, and I tell them. Simply.

So it simplifies you. There are a lot of things that simplify you. It doesn't lead you on a highway, but on the roads you took. Exactly. It takes you to something faster. That's exactly it. And what makes you decide to go and consult three years ago? That's it. That's probably why I chose this question.

Why was I impatient like that? Why did I even become like a bit of a cowering, impatient guy? I said, what is this? What do I want from this? Hey, I'm healthy, I'm a new order. I have a wonderful blonde, I have wonderful children who are making their way in life, who are healthy too, and who are inspiring and who bring me a lot that I look at them and who fascinate me.

And I have friends,, I have work. I have no right to complain about anything. But you couldn't put your finger on what you lack, what causes it? That's where I started. When I asked this question, I thought, maybe I should consult someone who would help me think differently, as you say, and take another path that I was always taking,

which was always the same, to sow the same traps in which I fell back all the time. So at one point, the whoop took me elsewhere, and that was great. It's a luxury in life to be able to offer a therapy like that, but we should all be able to offer it. It should be part of a program like the dentistry, or a program that we should all do. And there are people who may have much more, obviously much more need for it than I do, who should have access to it, and it's difficult, and there's not much, and all that. But I think that when we go into therapy,

it's because we need it. You know, it's already a choice to say, I have, it's a statement, it's a... Yes. You know, there's something that does, because it's only been three years. Do you have the impression that if you had taken, it's hypothetical, but if you had taken this decision before, you would be a different man today.

Probably, but it's hard to answer that. Because it calms something down. Can your loved ones already see a change? Yes. After three years. Yes. And three years every week is still... You're quite mature. Yes, it's quite mature. And I really went there like a good student.

I went there, I did my... When I went to see myself, the pilgrimage to the office, it was a real pilgrimage. I said to myself, well, if I... I don't know, the 45 minutes it takes me to go to the therapist's office. It's a time, it starts there, in fact. My reflection starts there and I tell myself, what is it? Because sometimes I tell myself, I have nothing to say, there is nothing this week, what can I talk about with a therapist? But there is always something going on during this journey to his desk, where suddenly I'm like, Ah, yes, I'd like to talk about that.

So just the fact of thinking that way, that's for sure that it changed me over time, over the last three years. That's for sure that I think it calmed me down, first of all. And it probably taught me a little more to forgive and trust myself, even in the end, when I don't know where I'm going, and even in the end when I tell myself I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing. I think, despite everything, that I have to do it. And I have to go through it.

It calmed you down. It calmed me down. I feel someone a little bit like in performance. You know, when you tell me, or I don't know if you were a little bit in there, you know, when you say, I have nothing to say, it's a bit like you're going down the line too. Do you have a little bit of that? Do you, because professionally, when you say,

I don't always feel good, do you really put very high expectations in you? Yes, but that's where I calmed down. When I started working as an animator, more so as a comedian, it's different, but as an animator, in addition, where I had the impression that I had a whole language to find, and I had a personal fantasy that was beginning to be set up, not alone, with a team, with authors, with people I loved a lot,

and that I still love, with whom I work for the most part, and who are always present in my life. And it was built together, we built ourselves as a family, everyone together. But there was a lot of pressure there, and I gave it to myself because I had the impression that by becoming an animator, there was a defeat of something. It was as if I didn't trust myself as an actor, or I had the impression that people didn't trust me as an actor.

You had to make a living. I had two children, and I wanted them to be comfortable, in the sense that if we wanted to go to a telecon or a teleco, go to school or do sports. I wanted to be able to do that, which was not really my job as a comedian. So I went there thinking it would last a year or two, three years. And then I had the impression that I really had to... I invented a kind of very complicated, high-level criteria that I didn't know what to achieve. And it was useless to make an image like that, which was finally far from me. And that's where I start.

By getting closer to you. That's where I start to understand that, ah, there's a way to do this job, to animate on TV. There's a way I start to find where I find a certain comfort, strangely. It was a long journey. I can't remember how long it took me to... Well, that's it. It was my path. So it's lighter than you thought, basically.

Well, it's maybe the experience too, but... Yeah, it's part of you. Yeah, finally, yes. I'm coming to you, it's a little... You're talking a little. Well, yes. I'm revealing myself, if you want, but I mean, it's not necessarily about me.

But there is something about that path that I find interesting. And I find it interesting that you talk about it because there are so many, you know, when you're younger, you feel like after 5-6 years you've made the turn and you're ready to... But it's the story of a life, of getting to know yourself. It's the story of a life, and being in your own... The more you get to know yourself, the closer you get to yourself, the more you live, the more you are able to deliver the best. That's it. And I mean, the work at the end of all this, beyond doing the job, having fun, if you want,

or trying to have fun, try to interest people in something. It's first of all finding a uniqueness or something that makes you, you find it relevant to be there. That's it, I've been there for a long time. I don't know why, I don't know how to be there. I mean, there are people who do it and who do it well, and so it's the real job for a long time, and they're going to do it. And it's like when I quietly discovered that I could just be myself. It seems easy, but I had to take that option.

No, it's not easy. No, no, it's not easy. So, you know, I probably know that you... No, no, it's not easy. You know, being an animator, there's almost no such thing, I mean, you're more on the radio, but on TV, it's all people, most of them, who come by. Yes, it's true. Because what we want on TV, a lot, is personalities. Yes.

People will follow you because they like your personality. And if you have a mark on the breach, you expect something to mark the breach. You don't expect something formatted that will resemble someone else. But it's a lot of that. There are a lot of people who have feelings for impostors, but I could have had it because I arrived at 40 years old on TV,

and I was a manager before. There was no path that led me there. And I refused. Sometimes people would tell me, you're an impostor, but not at all. They asked me that, they trusted me. And if it hadn't worked, they would have put me at the door. They didn't put me at the door, so it must work. And after that, I had people's comments,

and I found that extraordinary, that exchange, that dance with people. After that, I said to myself, well, that's what it is. Did your chum react in the same way as he who comes from a medium that was still in communication, and still had a message to present to the public? Did he find himself an imposter for a while or did he find his happiness immediately? No, because he talked about information. I think if he had animated this kind of show,

maybe he would have said, what is this? But he was very comfortable with the information, informing people. Basically, in politics, that's what you do all the time. So it was like a sequel. But it's sure that at the beginning, there were people who made comments on why these two people are coming to the media. But in both cases, neither one nor the other,

we took steps to get to the media. It's the media that came to us. And at the same time, I loved it, I still love it. This ability to communicate to people. When you do it from door to door in politics, it brings you so much understanding of what a message is and how it is received. Because sometimes we think we said something once and everyone understood it.

No, because it's possible that you're doing your dishes, that you're doing your homework, you're not focused, you hear it, but by repeating something, the person finally understands and we love to learn things. So you know, that's what I had as an objective to learn things. So you know, that was my goal, to help people. It's fun to have understood it quickly, arriving in that field, and to have understood, to have felt where your place was, and how to use your person. But I was lucky to be approached by a service station. You understand, because for example, we had to do other things, I was like, but I don't want to do TV there.

If I do TV, it has to bring something. It's like a continuation of what I did, because otherwise, it's not something I want in life, and there are so many good people. So it has to look like me. That's the advantage of coming later too. It's getting to know yourself a little more. And then to make choices

and to refuse things that didn't suit me, I think I would have probably had a hard time. Do you think you can stop right now? Stop doing what you do to do other things? No, I don't think so. I think if I stopped, I would do other things. I would find that I love life so much. With the audience, with the people.

I always reach out to people. No matter what I do, I get to the people. Because I like to talk, I like to... I think I would write. I wrote a book called The Cover of a few years ago, but it's for sure that writing is something that calls me a lot. I like that attitude. But I think that all my interest... But it's for sure that it would be with the audience. But yes, everything can stop. We have no control over it. But I think that doing all I'm interested in. But it would certainly be with the public.

But yes, everything can stop. We have no control over it. But I think that doing it is a great privilege. And you have to do it well. Absolutely. You have to do it for the right reasons. Or you have to do it in a goal, I think, to look more Catholic.

But you have to do it. It's also part of the pleasure of doing it with the time that adds added to that of already winning your life and working. It's when you do it, as you say, for others. There is a way to do it. You do it for others. You do it to get in touch with something that belongs to others and that it teaches you

things about yourself. There is something in it. That's what it became for me, animatelé. It became a... I understand what... I mean, I think I understand what you're saying, in the sense that... I repeat, it's not me you're asking questions about. It's not me. I understand that I'm not in this show, but it's not my show, it's not me. But when you think like that, you want to have the best possible show for the public. Yes.

You understand? Yes. So you want people around the table... That's for sure. You want... it's them you think of. That's it. You would say your audience or your audience already said it. But you know, you think of your audience.

So sometimes, I put that in a meeting, I was like, no, but that... We're getting bored of discussing it. We're not going to bring it in a gang name. Because people are going to get bored like us. You know, you understand? Yes. So if we laugh, we're going to make people laugh. Yes, that's it. And there's something in the... When you arrive in a kind of zone where you are also allowed to... because that's a privilege,

in addition to the one to earn his life, to work and to be in contact with people, it's when you are allowed to be yourself. And when you are allowed to say and do as... that's a... that's added to the web. And then I start to say, OK, that's a lot of... that's a lot of... that's a lot of benefits, of gifts, in fact, that this work brings to me. And now I'm like, I have to have this.

It's precious. Yes, it is. It's very, very precious what you have. You know, what we... Yes. You know, to be stopped in the street, to be told about what we do, to be with people we love. It's very precious. Yes.

I've always seen it that way. That's why every show for me is whether it's relevant, whether it's the right guests, whether we say the right thing, whether that person knows... because you know people listen to you. They take it to heart. It's amazing how sometimes... when I was little and I walked around with my father, we had a day a week because my parents were separated, and I had a day with my father and a day with my mother,

the weekend when I wasn't retired. When I walked around with my father, and my father always did the same thing, I found him at his place because I lived with my mother, we went to dinner at Ben's in the city center, and then we went to watch a movie, and he came to drive me to college on Sunday night. So that was our day.

So I didn't have much time, real time with him. We were taking the cinema off, and then, well. So when people stopped him on the street to talk to him, I had the impression that he was stealing my father. And then, I wanted to say, well, leave it to me, because I don't have much of it and I don't see much of it. It's like if you take a five minutes there, then another five minutes, then another five minutes. And I saw him so happy, him, to be interrupted in his conversation with me. And I knew that...

And I didn't understand at that moment why it made him so happy. And obviously, it's not that I need to... But I understand that when someone comes in with a real sincerity to tell you anything, not necessarily a compliment, anything, just that he comes to you to say... Because he trusts you. Because he trusts you, because he feels like he knows you, and he feels like you're able to hear what he has to say,

and that you're there in part for him, or for that person, because you're there, you're publicly present. And then I understand that there's something in there that is very touching. And again, it's not for compliments. It's not... It's a nice exchange. It's a exchange that is done, which we are not always aware of, that we know in theory what is happening, maybe.

But I look at people, but I watch people, much more than before, how people watch TV. Sometimes I'm at my parents' house, and I watch them watch TV, and how they listen to it, and I'm like, oh yeah, okay, what's coming? And you know, it's a family where the TV is always open, or almost always open, all day long. And sometimes they don't listen, as you say, sometimes they're busy doing other things, It's a family where the TV is always open, or almost always open, all day long. Sometimes they don't listen, as you say, sometimes they're busy doing other things.

But there's this circle that's always present, all day, all their lives, for years. And I make that circle, that sometimes we underestimate, or we treat it high, or we say, yeah, it's fun and all that, yes, but it's so present in life. But it's important. It's like it's crazy. Well, it becomes important, you have to take care of it.

If you have fun, you do it well. If you do, you know, no matter what we do, we have to do it right because... Ideally, that's it. Well, you know, I have my friend Manon, for example, who listens to your show on Mondays and Sundays, and she, I know how good it is, how much you make her laugh, how much... I saw you when I went to your show, she wrote me right away, but I'll tell you, every time

I see her, she talks to me. It's really important. It's nice, it's cool. Because you make her laugh. The question I chose for you, what kind of child were you? Because you just talked about the child. Well, I was well, I wasn't the... I was very... We were talking about reserve earlier, that was it.

But I was really the little boy, very, very... My parents were quite, my father was quite severe with me. So I was like drilled by... It was very... the discipline was very important. The punctuality was very important. I was really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, I was already there. I gave the reply to my friend Vincent Graton, who was passing his auditions for the Conservatoire. I gave the reply and I had my class in Ségép, which ended at 3.15, and I had the class at home,

with Vincent and my father, at 4.00. I arrived at 4.04 one day. I said, well, yes, sorry, Dad, I'm late. I had to go late. He said, well, the door is open like that. So it's your father? It's my father, from home. He said, well, you're not coming home. You're late. And he had a policy. When Lev was late, he wouldn't come home. And the class was... Well, there was no class. Well, I said,

Is Vincent there? He said, Yes, Vincent. I'm going to work with Vincent. So go do what you want. You'll come back later. And I said, Hey, that was like... OK, my father was like... He told me... I remember... I remember he took me, because sometimes he didn't have a choice,

he took me on rehearsal. And once I remember I went... It was quite amazing because he played in Botte à Surprise, and there were a lot of shows for children, very popular. And there were all the characters I saw on TV, who were there, from Payasson to the Harry Boulding gang. And, well, they were all there. In a rehearsal room in Radio Canada,

and then my father, before entering the room, said, we're going to work, dad, we're going to work. You sit there, you don't say a word. You don't say a word. I don't want to hear you. Then I go into the rehearsal room, I'm like, wow. I'm impressed. I'm going to sit in a little chair in the corner.

My father says, you stay there. It lasts three, four hours, these rehearsals. So, in turn, all the characters... I remember Jean-Louis Millet in Payasson, who leans over me and says, Yes, there's a little boy! What's his name, the little boy? And I said, I must not speak,

I must not say a word. I didn't say my name. But what's your name? What's his name? And then my dad says, his name is Mark. But your name is Mark? Yeah, how old are you Mark? How old are you Mark? He's five years old, but he talks.

Does he talk? My dad says, yes he talks, but I told him to stay calm because we're working. Well, yes, but I said hello and he said, can you answer me? I spent four hours. And then it was all over after me. And I remember at one point, there was Pierre Thériault who was doing the surprise box. And the big thing about that show was that at one point, Pierre Thériault was the surprise box. And the big thing about this show was, at one point, Pierre Thériault, in the moon, I don't know what,

he said to his box, Open up! And the box opened. And then he went in, where he went to get some accessories. I go to the studio. And Pierre Thériault, he's all... I'm impressed. And he goes, Oh, the little boy!

The little boy! What's his name? His name is Marc. Yes, his name is Marc. How old is he? He's five years old. Does he mean, box, open up? Tell me, box, open up. Maybe the box will open.

Tell me, Marc. Tell me, box, open yourself. Maybe the box will open. Tell me, Marc. Tell me, box, open yourself, Marc. Koudang, what's up? Can't you say, box, open yourself? So, I hate this kid. But it's sad. I laugh sometimes. It's sad at the same time. But when you lived that, it must have been torture.

If you still remember today, it marked you. But what could have happened if you had spoken? What would your father have done? Of course not, I don't want to demonize him because he would have understood. But you were scared anyway. I was afraid of my father, that's for sure. Not to talk like that. When you talk to me... And you're a youth idol.

When you're a child, I laugh so much, you can't understand. But at the same time, it's a mix. I'm embarrassed to laugh about it. I can understand you. Look at that. I laugh about it. I see myself and I laugh. But it's for sure that when you're a child...

And at the same time, it wasn't... For me, it was that. It was that. It was the only thing in life. But you were forced to... I mean, there was a rigidity from your father, who marked you. Because you were late here a few minutes earlier and you didn't stop apologizing, even though there was no danger for us. No, no, but still, I mean, that's a matter of civility, you know, it's like the base, but it's true that...

You didn't have a pass, anyway. No, I didn't have a lot of pass, and not on that. And on business, you know, it was very... I keep telling myself, but the others, they're stuck, you know, and... Well, it's a good thing, then. No, no, no, no the others are stuck. Well, that's not good. No, no, no, that's it. But since it was like that, I didn't have a bag. But when you had your children, did you fall into it a little?

No. Did you react to that? I think so. Well, yes, in the sense that I, on the contrary, you know, I was maybe... Oh no, I was, I was like... First of all, I was so crazy about having these children that I was like... Oh no, I was the opposite. How old were you when you had your children?

25 years old, my son, and 27, my daughter. So I was 25 years old, not really... In a very romantic trip with my blonde from the time. We didn't have a stage, we lived in the city center of Montreal, in a place that had no sense to have children, an apartment. It was all cramped, it was all... But I was so... Oh no, I... The first reflex I remember is that I talked to them all the time,

a lot too much. It was like I had to be unbearable. My son would get up in the middle of the night, let's say, once he had drunk his milk, I would make him his... And then I would bring him to the kitchen at 3.12 in the morning, and then I would put him in his little chair, and then I would put candles around him.

He was a freak. I had all the candles that I lit. He was in his little pool with his candles for two months. I kept talking to him. I said, It's beautiful. There are things that are going to be wonderful today. We're going to live a beautiful day. We're going to start by looking at the sunrise. It's going to be a beautiful experience for you. It's like that. I'm going to look at the sun, then we're going to let mom sleep.

We're going to look at the sunrise, then I'm going to have breakfast. You'll see how I have breakfast. You'll see I'm going to have... Today, what am I going to do? I'm going to make cereals. Today, I'm going to take cereals with yogurt. We're going to say, maybe... And then, I couldn't blew. This child never slept. He was always... He was solicited. I was even upside down.

So no, no, that's it. And I was like that a lot with both of them. My son talked very, very early, of course, because then she would be made to talk the same way. It would be like... Well, at some point, it, because if I didn't speak, I wouldn't have any room to speak. But I was like, no, it was like, express yourself, then speak to me. And then if someone stopped me on the street to talk to me about my work while I was with my children, I often had a reflex of doing, ah, yes, yes, I understand, thank you very much, but I'm with my son and all that, and while my father, he was the other way around,

yes, hello, nice to meet you, yes, and I was next door and I was waiting for him to finish his conversation. So for a while I was like, yes, yes, I was surely in reaction to something. Did it exorcise you to have children compared to the little boy you were? Well, I think I first met my family because I didn't have a family,

but I didn't live a family life. I wasn't in a traditional family framework, if we can say that already. And I had two exuberant parents, each in their own way, who did exuberant things, and who were very focused and passionate about their work and their personal journey. In a time when my mother, for example, made an incredible personal path to become the woman she is today. She went through a thousand things. She was really the little girl who was raised in the countryside, in fact, at that time, in Deux-Montagnes,

who was going to sit at the foot of the trees to read the Countess of Segur or to read great books, and who didn't talk about the day, and who was hyper romantic in a world. So you're a unique child through this family. Yes, yes. So my mother, who was an intellectual who read, who worked as a journalist, and who worked a lot on her personal emancipation, and to become a woman, and to take her place, and to make a career, and to continue her education that she had not received to the right extent that she considered, and all that. And my father, on his side,

who was like a crazy job man who lived for his work, whose all the friendships, personal relationships were through work. It was in work that he found all my father. That's why when he didn't work, he didn't know what to do with his life. And he was doing little things. He was doing... I see him again with his big... there were big holes, there was a kind of thing, with big holes anyway.

And he was in the living room. And then he was doing the alicorn lady, which is bigger than your table here, a tapestry from the Middle Ages. He was doing it at the little point. I was doing it here, a little bit crazy, because... You don't want to bother either. Someone who does the little point, you don't bother. Someone who does the alicorn lady, you don't bother.

You leave it alone. No, because if he misses a little point, he's that's a little crazy. You don't want to bother me either? No, no. Someone who does the lady in the unicorn, you don't bother. You leave it alone. No, because if they miss a stitch, and if they have to do it again, it's complicated. So I had this image of my father with his wolves, who were doing his unicorn,

and his lady. That's when you weren't working. It was a world. My family was quite particular. Did you want to say, I'm here? Yeah, but maybe I tried once or twice. What happened? Well, I don't know. You can be there. Okay. So yeah.

So no, I played hockey with my tennis ball. It had a garage, a 26-story block where I lived with my mother. Because we lived in an apartment opposite the cemetery. Opposite the cemetery, on the other side of the Neide. So I looked through my bedroom window and there were just dead people. Everyone was dead. When I was in college, I arrived on Saturday. She had been working and she was out in the evening. She had a headache on Saturday. She was sleeping in the living room So she had a headache on Saturday.

So she slept in the living room because it was a small two and a half. So I had the bedroom. My mother had her big bed in the living room. So she listened to Hasnavo and Jean Fera all day. So I was in my bedroom. I was looking outside and there were dead people. So when I wanted to have some fun, I said, I'm going to play hockey at the garage door downstairs. With my tennis ball. And I was doing some slapshots on my garage door.

And I said, well, that's done. Now I should go get something to eat. We were upstairs. My mother said, damn, five dollars. If you go to the Duke of Lorraine, you buy a bread with eggs.» I was like, «Oh, I'm going with my St. Vial.» I went to the Duke of Lorraine, I bought a bread with eggs that I ate on the way back.

It was my soup. So... When you say that, what's bothering you? When you tell that, how do you see that child? Ah, it's like... He's attached to that little guy. He's attached to that. He's attached to it for real.

Because, you know, it's like... And it's funny because my mother told one of her friends recently, how Mark was a child, and my mother said, he's wonderful, he took care of him all by himself. He didn't... He would go buy a bread with eggs and eat it. And he took care of himself. He would go buy some bread and eggs and eat them. He was taking care of himself. I didn't have to say much. He got up on his own.

He was proud of himself. He got up on his own. I was there. I was like, yes, that's true. A little bit in the game, but still. But you weren't validated either. No, no, but you know, it's two personalities so particular, my mother and my father, they liked me, I have no doubt about it. That's it, but in their own way. But in their own way, and in a... with parameters that even today today I say to myself,

oh boy, how is that... how is that... Sometimes I feel like I'm thinking about our family life. When I was little, really like a kind of movie. You know, the wild child of Truffaut. I see myself sitting, not talking much, looking at what's going on around me, and try to understand what this was about. And then I got to college, with a small sports college in Arrigo,

where everyone is... All families come from B. Conefield, from the Bizarre island, from Laval-sur-le-Lac, and all the rich sons of rich people who have a lot of money and who go skiing in Switzerland during the weekend. And in families, super traditional, often very...

Everyone at home, it's a good meal, you know, the action of grace is the action of grace. You know, it's really that kind of passion. When I arrived in those families, when I was invited by my chums to say, you know, when I was spending the weekend in B. Conefield, in a house with a yard, dogs, a dinner where everyone eats together, I was like, it was really... I was going to paradise, so in my life with my children,

that's what I wanted. That's why the house, for me, the house is so... I say, house? Yes, the house. The house is very important for me. It's all my... It's a symbol for you. It's like a anchor.

Yes, yes. And it's like what I can... I know I shouldn't... In my head, when I bought my first house, it was the best thing I could give to my children. A house, it was like wow. I was very proud of myself at 27 years old, to buy my first house, 52,000 Pies, in Deux Montagnes, precisely. A small wooden house, but there was Pies, in Deux-Montagnes, precisely. A small wooden house, but there was a land, there was a garden.

Hey, I was like, there were trees. I was like, wow, I succeeded in life. Well, I understand what you just said. That's what I was going to say. That's a great success. Oh yeah, for me it was like... You went where you met a need that you had. Yes, to have a family life, a house, and two children.

When Fabienne told me she was pregnant with my daughter, I thought, OK, something is happening. The first one was a total shock. The second one, I didn't even have a reference to know what it's like to live with two children in a house. How do you raise the second child compared to the first? The dynamic, brother and sister, I had never seen that before, otherwise in films or in the Abbey-Counsfield families,

but I had no idea. This kind of vertigo, I would say, from the early years of childhood, it was for everyone, everyone for their own reasons, but for me, it meant a lot to me. Did it look like what you liked as a child? Oh yes, probably. Probably I would have liked that. A kind of family cohesion. But I really don't regret it either.

Paradoxically, the one I had. No, because that's why you're like that too. Maybe. Maybe, but I don't know what I would have been otherwise. Of course, we never know. If it had been raised otherwise. But it's true that I still remember

having said being told repeatedly, ah, I'd like to have a family, ah, I'd like to have a family, a traditional family, because I had one, but, ah, to have a house, ah, to have a brother or a sister, to have this, I think it also teaches you a lot in life about, you know, expressing your needs, being able to say things, to have, to take your place in a family where you have a brother or a sister who takes care of them.

So that was longer for me because I wasn't used to what people said. You weren't used to it. Yes, so I was in dialogue with myself most of the time. And the table must also have an importance. Oh yes. And the tableau must also have an importance. I imagine sitting around a table and exchanging at the same time, being in the same place at the same time. And to see, even if there are two conversations at the same time at the table or that there is one that suddenly moves in the living room while the rest stays at the table.

That's it, that thing. And even if I have nothing to say and I just want to listen to what's going on around me That's it. That's the deal. Even if I have nothing to say, and I just want to listen to what's going on around me, and I just want to listen to my children talking... You're in it. That's it. You're a part of it. I'm completely in it, and I'm happy to be there. I don't need to... I'm like a comble. That's why Christmas is so important to us. And it's true for my children too, so I'm lucky because it might not be so important for them too, but they are happy to be part of that.

And to be there for Christmas too, it's really everyone's favorite holiday in the family. Mostly because it's a party that stretches for two days, two and a half days, and where we are really together. There is no one who leaves. No. When it happens, you know that... Yes, it's like that. There is a chasso trinit, there is a whole...

There is a ritual. Yes, yes, that's it. So that's really precious for me. And I'm very lucky to be able to still live it. customize your casino page with our new favorite and recently played games tabs. And to top it all off, quick and secure withdrawals. Get more everything with FanDuel Sportsbook and Casino. Gambling Problem call 1-866-531-2600. Visit connexontario.ca Oh my God, it's like... But take water, take water. No, no, but it's not a reprise, not at all. I'm just going to tell you how interesting what you're saying is. Well, it's just funny to talk about his childhood when she was...

Well, completely typical. Yes, we can say that. A typical childhood, we can say that. And at school, where you... But it's your childhood.... But it's your childhood. It's my childhood. That's it, it's your story. Yes, it's quite correct. But it's true that in films, we see well, there's something,

we would be so attached to the character of the young boy. It's a kind of... I tried to write a film one day, I have no talent for that, but I tried to write a film one day, and I realize that the main character... And I hadn't made the link in such an obvious way, but the main character was a child who didn't speak, and all he did was scream. And when he was screaming, the men were fighting and the women were enjoying themselves. It was his kind of gift. He had like a... He had a gift of...

His cry, it was a special cry that humans around had never heard. A kind of visceral cry that was not aggressive, it was just so powerful that it made men fight. And I thought, maybe it's... So no one was going to you? No, that's it. It's like... It's...

Maybe I was thinking, maybe one day I'll have something to express that will be heard and that will... Or maybe not, but anyway. But a scream means a lot. Well, yes, maybe I wanted to scream. Yes, you wanted to scream, but especially you wanted to be asked why you lot. Well, yes, maybe I wanted to scream. Yeah, you wanted to scream, but especially, maybe she wanted us to wonder why you scream. Well, yes, maybe.

I don't know. The basics. The basics. Can you give me a 4, please? Yes. My name is Claire Poirier, a great amateur investigation hiker who finally starts herself in the wonderful world of investigations. In 2009, my high school, my after school, Cynthia Menard, a girl without a history of our class, drowned at the beach of Oca.

Crime investigation, an almost true story, with Catherine LeVac, exclusively on Radio-Canada Audio. So we're at the yellow level, huh? It's more of a card. Hey, it's like, yeah. So here we go. How has your relationship with money evolved over time? What did you not receive from your parents and what did you miss? What is the biggest challenge you've had to overcome in your life?

What traits of character have you inherited from your father? Oh, wow! You see, you understand, we're like in... What traits of character did you inherit from your father? Yeah, yeah, look, I'll read it to you. What do you want to answer? Well, we've already answered a few of those. Yes, we could say that you've already answered a yellow one. Basically, we just have one to choose.

Yeah, let's say that... Your relationship with money is interesting, because tomorrow... Tomorrow... Your relationship with money is interesting because, again, we often come back to the way we were raised. It's our starting point. My father had a rather particular relationship with money. I'm closer to my mother on this. My mother is no longer... My mother is really... You have some, you have some, you have some, you don't have some, well, it's flat, but you don't have some, and you'll have some one day, and it's ready to roll. And there's something in there that...

My father, once, had done... Hey, that was a deal, there. There was an inspector from the government who had come for his tax report, to ask my father questions, and he said, well, we're doing... We're revisiting the tax report from last year father questions. And he said, well, we're revisiting the tax report from last year, Mr. Lavraiche, you have to get out of all your receipts and your business, we're going to go through that. From that day on, my father did a violent insomnia

that lasted until the inspector came to sit down. And then he had everything prepared, my father was like... My father was like... He had his papers. He had his papers. My father kept everything, everything, everything, everything. And it's related to money, that's why I say that. My father kept everything.

My father cut it out in the telepresence when he said... This week, there was his show, the Major Plum Pudding. And there was always the little summary. Aristide Casoulay wonders if he's going to lose his hat. He cut that, he stuck all the things he talked about him. Not only did he keep it, he cut it and stuck it in scrapbooks. Compared to himself. He kept his texts. He joined my father's texts. When the show was done, it was paper.

He was classed by order of writing, how they had been shot and all that. When he died, there was a man on the stairs who went up to the stairs and said, They were all written by order of writing, how they were shot and all that. When he died, there was, under the stairs, he was going up or down, or on the ground. There were, I don't know how many hundreds of texts from Radio Canada, which were 8.5 by 14, all written with his notes in it, where to go, how to move, and all his setting up was written in it, where to go, how to move, and all his setting was written in it. It was all classified on?de.de.de.de. Like here, there were a lot of things in this piece that I can't say,

but there was a world of everything he could keep, he kept. So when money, when it was a matter of money, it was very complicated for him. He wanted to keep it, but at the same time he wanted to offer himself things. He wanted to travel, but at the same time it cost money. It was complicated. And at the end of his life, I said, Well, don't take a vacation, Dad. He said, why do it? Well, to rest, to go see the country, to go, I don't know, you know, see.

He said, it's useless. I said, well, let's see. It's like... And he said, it's expensive. I said, yes, but... And then I said to myself, he said, it's expensive. I said, yes, but... And then I said to myself, I'm not going to say he was cheap or he was stingy, but it was... I think that over time, and as he grew older, alone in life,

it was probably... he had... he had become an affectionate relationship, his relationship with money. It was something he could count, calculate as something that he could say, yes, I succeeded. It was his value. It was what he had in his bank account. That's why he wasn't able to say no. As soon as there was a job offer, he said yes right away, even if it didn't suit him.

But he wouldn't have lacked money. If he had been traveling, for example, he had the means. At that time, yes, when you're older, and there was good, he had put money aside. There was not a ton, because it was a generation that lived mainly from theater. And he was not lucky enough to make as much television as that to make a living. But there was still... They could have allowed a little more of that. They would offer a sports car, that was their big...

Yeah, yeah, a Carman Ghia, a convertible, that was their big deal. Or a white Camaro. I didn't understand that one. When he arrived with his white Camaro, c'est une camaro? Et blanche. Je fais oui, je vois bien, mais, hey, ça, ça décolle. Ça t'arrache de l'asphalte. Je fais oui. Ah ben, mais tu peux pas aller vite de toute façon. Non, je vois pas vite. Mais ça décolle. Ça décolle. Si je veux déco Well, it's taking off. If I want to take off, it takes off. But you don't want to take off. It's okay, it takes off.

If she wants to take off, she takes off. Well, yes. So it was... She tore the asphalt, the Camaro, but I never understood. And you weren't convinced, clearly. No, and she was sitting so low in there, I can't see anything. I had a glove box here. So I can't see anything. And she was like, I was in the So, money, when I had moments when I really, really didn't have any, and even still have,

when I went on tour recently, and all that, when you do theater, and you know it, it's like you, when you give yourself to theater, for real, it's like, OK, we're subsidizing, we subverting the theater we're doing. And that's for everyone. For rehearsals, and then for the... The rehearsals are not paid, and then... And then there are the performances. There aren't many. Well, no, for all the work that's put in, it's very, very little.

It's very, very little. It's very rare. Sometimes we count days a week, but it's rare that we count in months performances at the theater. It's between 25 and... As he said, let's say a flop is 25 shows and a success is 28 shows. In traditional theaters, it's almost that. I'm exaggerating, but not so much. Theater is a pleasant thing when you have a taste for it. But it's not what allows you to

make a living. So I completely understand my father's relationship with money, which is like, hey, it's precious, and I'm going to accept it. My father said, if we offer you something, you say yes, that's all. And I said, yes, but if you don't feel like you're going to be able to do it right, or that you don't feel good, or that the text doesn't say anything, you say, how am I going to play this? Sometimes it's a challenge, but sometimes you say, I'm not there, it doesn't interest me.

He says, it doesn't matter if it interests you or not. It's your job, you do that. We ask you to play, you play. You're an actor, you play. So it's really another way of seeing things and a job that I, with time, because we're from another era too, that I could... So I have a relationship with money from the moment people are at home, in safety, who are hot when it's cold outside, and that I can eat.

Without a joke, even if sometimes I like to travel like crazy, but if I couldn't travel for X reasons or for lack of money, I would still be very happy to be home. That's not where you're going to seek your security. No, no. It's really like... No, no. It's really emotional. And to learn better and better, to be better and better with myself, and with the people I love.

And that's it. So I have... No. You won't make a possession of it. I don't think so. I can change, but... It's true sometimes when you get older alone, and you say, if something happens to me, I have to... If you know you're getting less, it's still anxiogenic, that part of life, when you get 30 less,

and you know your wealth won't grow much. That's for sure, but he had his house at that time, and there were things he had acquired. Oh, yes, that he was not in trouble. No, no, no, no. But Gaëtan Labrèche, your father, worked all his life. Yes. He really worked all his life.

He's someone we've known until the end. Yes, and he gave classes. When there were more difficult periods, he gave classes, he taught. He taught at the CEGEP, he taught at the École Nationale, but he also taught in private, and all that, where he had to get there. But he had that, he had always worked, my father, he had always worked. But if there are some who have not seen Love with a Big A, where you play with your father, you have to see that. It was really a moment, I remember when I saw him for the first time, and I saw him several times, this episode, it's absolutely overwhelming to see you play together.

Well, it's because, yeah, there was a context. There was that he was sick. He was already very sick. We didn't know. I didn't know. No one knew. I knew that there was something wrong. I knew that there was something wrong. I already counted that. He was rehearsing. It was long rehearsals with Jeannette, it was awful. Everyone dreamed of working with her because we were working for real. It wasn't like a rehearsal without a mother where we were rehearsing for a month on Radio-Québec at the time, every day. It was like we were learning a text, there were scenes, we were talking, it was great. But for him, every day of rehearsals,

the more the rehearsals went on, the more I found him more and more... I really felt that way about him physically. I was like, what's wrong with him? He must be worried about his role. And since we had this relationship where we didn't tell each other everything, my father and I, we didn't dare to tell each other anything, I left it in his head, and I said to myself,

well, maybe I'll know where my nose is, or I won't know what it is. And then the shooting was over, and the next day, or the day after, he called me at 8 a.m. He said, well, I have to tell you something, I think I have cancer. I said, sorry, I think I have cancer. I have a ball in my neck. There was a metastasis in the neck and he was moving his shirt buttons. He was always the same and he was hiding.

He was putting on some fumes. I said, look, what's going on? He was very cocky all of a sudden that it was out. So he had a... It was really like a big clementine in the neck, a big metastasis. And from that moment on, six months later, he was gone, he was dead. So it was that year, that year, that seven, eight months, working with him, intense, intense, intense, every day, and then agony, and then the illness,

in any case, I don't want to... But then, strangely, it's really a very beautiful memory for me. All of that. It was difficult, obviously. It wasn't joyful in that sense, but it was excessive. It was a great... It was a very intense period of my life. Which I often remember. Which fed me a lot. He didn't say much more, but his silences, he wanted to say much more than the silences before.

Between the moment he learned he was sick until the end, the way he looked at me and the way he shared his last moments with me, even if we didn't talk that much, he told me a lot. And I tell him again that I was lucky to have that time with him for real. You were in the right place at the right time. Yes, yes. And I had very, very young children, so I was in another state of mind too. I knew a little bit. I started to know what it was like to have a relationship with my children. So I could see the work that it asked him, him, vis-à-vis me, to à travers ça, puis de mettre son orgueil de côté, puis faire tout ça. Il a abandonné. Il a abandonné finalement, à moi.

Puis parce qu'il n'y avait pas d'autre enfant, puis il n'y avait personne d'autre dans sa vie. Il avait des amis, mais je veux dire. Mais il était quand même rigide dans sa vie. Oui. Et là, il a dû... Il a dû être difficile. Oui, ça a dû être difficile pour lui de lâcher prise par rapport à ça. Complètement. Ça a dû... Yes, Lord, it must have been difficult. Yes, it must have been difficult for him to let go of it. Completely.

It must have been very, very tough. In the meantime, you had access to who he was. In part, for the being who spoke a lot more, as I say, than what he was talking about when he was the father I knew before the disease, but he had to let go. And that, for the part of my father, who was so rigid towards himself, who could be towards me or towards the others, it must have been a crazy job. And it must have cost a lot. Did the fact of playing together just before you learned it,

it opened the door to a part of your relationship that had not been opened before? Well, it's probably, from my point of view, and I say this to Jeannette almost every time we meet, you know, I say, hey, really, it's for sure that there have been many moments that I wouldn't have... It would only be a physical promiscuity to hold on to our arms. And all the things that my father didn't do with... Well, he didn't do much with me, he did anyway. But it wasn't... It wasn't that.

It wasn't a relationship based so much on exchanges of affection and love. And in that drama, you were taking care of your father. He was your father too. And it was you who took care of it. It seemed like you were a precursor of what was coming. Yes. And maybe it was

a little general repetition of a certain way of what I was going to live with him. And in addition, in the play, we are vulnerable. We had to show, let go of this vulnerability from one side to the other. So I, who was always afraid of being hit on the head, of not being in my place, I had to put that aside to be this son,

who had this role, to take care of his father. And he had to let go of his side too. It's for sure that there was this encounter that the two roles allowed us to... And all the work in front of us, all the rehearsal work, we're there every day, we see each other every day. I hadn't seen my father since... every day? I think I hadn't seen my father every day, apart from when I was placed at the Marjolaine Theatre, and who played at the theatre that evening, and that I was going to spend the summer in the cottage in Eastman.

I was going to work with my father. I was selling shows that night, and he was playing. Those were the times when I was with my father. But apart from that, I've never been with my father every day for a long time, like working with Jeannette. So it was great. At all these levels, it was really, it was really very, very cool. And the more it went, the more I could see that he was looking at me, that he was saying goodbye somewhere, you know, and I felt it, that he was saying several silent goodbyes and all that. I already counted that, but the last day, I said to myself,

I have to take a day off and I want to see my children. Today, I won't go to the hospital because I have to breathe a little bit. Obviously, it's the day when the hospital calls me. I think you'd better come. I think it's today that something will happen. And then I leave. And then I arrive. And then I take the whole journey. I say to myself, what am I going to tell them

when I get into the hospital room? What am I going to tell them? What do you say to someone who's going to die? I've never experienced that before. And I wasn't... Hey, and I had never experienced that before. I was not... I arrived in the hospital room, he had been in a coma for several days. But then I saw his mask, and I thought, what am I going to tell him? I keep thinking about that.

And then his sister was sitting there, and she was very sad. So I looked at him and I say to him, well, you know, maybe you're preparing to go meet people you love a lot and haven't seen in a long time. Maybe that's what's going to happen to you, and maybe you'll be happy with that. And maybe you'll go meet people you like. And maybe you'll find people you liked. And I feel like it's taking all of its little change.

And he looks at me with his big blue eyes, like the wolf in the Alicom. But he takes off his oxygen mask and says, Yeah, but for that, I'll have to leave the one I like the most. And he puts his mask on. And really, 15 minutes later, he's dead. And it's very dramatic to tell a story like that. But it was all my father.

It was... It was theater, and it was in-and-out, and out-of-the-box, and... He was doing a show, until... I don't think he really thought what he was saying. But... And why do you think he couldn't have thought it? Oh no! I'm not saying that. That's not what I meant.

What I meant was that... He always had a dramatic sense of doing things. I understand. I understand. So he made a striking exit by saying that. He made a striking exit. It was like the declaration of love, one of the most beautiful declarations of love I've ever heard. That I was made. And you know, yes, I found people for eternity that I loved, but for that, I'll have to say, hey, it's a lot to say about a man like him who was able to be very, very, very in love.

But without addressing him personally... Yeah, it's not like, I love you, it makes me feel like I should leave you. It's like he didn't personalize me. No, he theatricalized it. I understand. Until the end. And it was his language. It's already beautiful as a phrase.

And I didn't expect anything else from him anyway. It's already beautiful. He was faithful to himself. He was faithful to himself until the last breath. You said to your daughter recently, not so long ago, who was with you on your plateau, how much you loved her. Yes. Yes, yes. you loved him. Yes. Yes, yes. You're capable, I mean, you broke that mold.

I think so, but my children, my two children know how much I love them, and I tell them a lot, and I tell them often. You said it publicly, it's still something. I hope you'll love me, I'd love you even when I'm gone. Yeah, that's it. It was beautiful, it was an extraordinary declaration of love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I... Oh yes, and I'll say, it's sure that my children, it's like...

You tell them I love you. You say it to your mother, but it's something you... I tell them, I write to them, we text almost every day. And there's not a texto from my father that ends. My children are no longer... Well, my son too is very... My daughter has her son. And her life completely...

My daughter, she's something. Her life is like... She does a thousand things at the same time, and she has one more child at the same time. So you understand how complicated it can be. My son, he has more time.écrit des... mais il y a toujours les je t'aime à la fin de chaque texto. On peut pas... moi je peux pas... je dirais jamais assez, quitte à... autant j'ai peur de tomber sénère de mes enfants, autant ça...

T'aimes autant tomber sénère en disant je t'aime que... que toi tu l'as attendu ce je t'aime là. You love your uncle so much that you fell for him by saying, I love you. You've waited for that I love you. Yeah, maybe I have. Maybe. And fortunately, my mother is still healthy and she still lives today, she tells me a lot too. And I felt it from my father, but I didn't hear as much maybe as I would have liked. But I felt it at least. It's already beautiful. There are plenty that... It was a particular generation.

Men of that time, it was something. It's crazy, the path. But you know, often we hear from certain people, saying, I can't give what I didn't receive. It's for me, when you hear that, it's always like the end of evolution. Because if we never give what we didn't receive, we'll never give it. And when I hear you, it's always like the end of evolution. Because if we never give what we didn't receive, we will never give it. And when I hear that, it's proof that it's possible... Oh, I think so.

...to give what we didn't receive. I think so. To offer what we would have also wanted to have. Yes, maybe. I think it's exhausting. Instead of always leaning on what we didn't receive, it's like it led us to be what we... Instead of waiting for others, to say,

well, I didn't get it, but I'll give it to you. Exactly. And in... it was their way of raising me, without them looking for it that way, but it was their way of raising me by maybe not giving me what I needed in some ways. I had to compose with that. And it's very... It's the same as it is now. Yes, it can't be done otherwise.

Apparently. Yes, apparently. I still have to work or learn to make myself more available and more... You know, I'm still working. I'd like to have that grandfather who's always there to say, Hey, if you're stuck, come and carry me. And I do it as many times as I can, but I'd like to do it even more. Red level, Marc. You give me three. We asked a question about the yellow level,

but it's because we answered other questions. Yes, that's it. In the meantime, we... So, you chose one. Did you neglect certain aspects of your life? How did you experience Fabienne's grief? What is your biggest insecurity source? Oh, those are simple questions. Red level? Oh, that's a simple question. New-Rogue.

Yes, that's it. We're taking care of it. But... They're fun, aren't they? It's because Fabienne's mourning, I've already talked about it, in the sense that... It goes in the same direction as what was great in Fabienne's mourning experience, it lasted. It gave me enough time to try to decode what was going to happen, to prepare myself, especially to prepare myself to live that with the children. How do I... It's complicated and I don't have all the answers and I probably won't have them ever.

But where is the new place in a family where the mother leaves and the children are still so young? How old were the children? I was 17, my son, no 15, 15 and 13. I was saying nonsense. It was so, it was such a bubble, that thing. 17, hey, look, it's crazy, huh? It's like the beginning of adolescence. Yes, yes, it was in adolescence completely. It's because I think...

My daughter was still in college, she had to work. My son, I remember when it happened, my son worked at the golf, as he worked his summer job. And my daughter finished her second year, three, I think. So... Yeah, it was... secondaire 3, je pense. Oui, c'était... On a eu la chance, dans la malchance, de voir venir quand même, de se préparer. Mais c'est elle qui a été formidable dans sa façon de passer ses messages. Je faisais référence à mon père qui disait pas tellement plus vers la fin. I was talking to my father, who didn't say much more towards the end.

Fabienne was talking a lot. She always talked a lot, and she talked until the end. At one point, I remember we were in the car, we were coming back from one of these treatments, and I was devastated, I was devastated, and I was driving the car. on revenait d'un de ses traitements. Pis moi, j'étais défait, là. J'étais démoli pis j' conduisais l'automne. J'étais... Pis il était tellement morfiné que je me disais... je me laissais aller, tu sais, de l'âme, parce que j'étais pas sûr si elle voyait ou elle se sentait vraiment, dans la réalité, ce qui se passait vraiment tellement était... Fait que je me disais que si j'ai de la peine,

elle va... des fois, elle me regardait, pis elle voyait que j'étais pas bien, mais... Est-ce qu'elle l'a associée à elle, du tépo? I felt sorry for her. Sometimes she looked at me and she saw that I wasn't doing well. Did she associate with her? She knew that. She was so angry. But this Martin, in the whole thing, she did it. I was crying and I remember I was in the neighborhood and we were going around the house and she said to me, Hey, it's not true, it's going to be fine. I swear it's going will be fine. And with a tone like that, it will be fine. It's correct.

And it really got me, that the person who could be much more devastated than me to let his life at 45 life and her children, especially since she loved them so much, that she was able to get to the point of saying, to do me good, and I'm sure she thought, it's going to be fine. And that morning, that sentence, it was my spring, even today, when sometimes, when I tell myself, hey, everything that's happened since 2005 in my life,

everything that's happened in the life of my children, and I go today, where are we? I have an extraordinary wife in my life. My daughter has her son. My son has a great career in another sector than his sister and me. But he is good, he is bright, he is fun, he is beautiful, they are intelligent, they are good, good, full of resources. She was right. It was good. There were some bad moments, of course.

I think she really gave me that. She gave me that in one sentence. I'm sure, but I'm stigmatizing that sentence. She really gave me that. She really gave me that in one sentence, and much more, without doubt. I mean, I'm stigmatizing that sentence. Well, yes. It's like a permission. Yes. I know you're going to fall in love, that you're going to start over with your life, that the children will continue without me, that I'm not essential. Even if I gave everything, the essential part life, and this family, I'll let it go.

I let it go, and I'm able to tell you today. The last weekend... That was crazy, that thing. At the last weekend, they said, well, at the hospital, they said, OK, she can go for a while, but she came back Monday, I think she would be better at the hospital. And it wasn't clear that it was the last weekend, even if the hospital, but me with her, it wasn still that last Sunday, it took three hours to look out the window of the house. To look outside. I don't know what... She started looking out the window, and she smiled at me.

Then she went to the other window, and looked outside. Then to the other window. She looked out the window of the house like that, and I followed her because I thought she could fall, she could, I don't know. And then she said goodbye to her house, to what she saw, to her running, to Saint-Lambert, to all that, to her trees, and to her life, when she saw children running outside. I had these two moments, many others, but these two important moments that gave me the permission to do it again. Like leaving in peace too? Yes, too. I think that, yes. It's like, let it go and it will be fine.

Yes, exactly. I'm sure you weren't happy to leave and leave her children. We can imagine all the inner journey it took to tell you that. It was maybe several mornings and she wasn't able to... It's possible that it was long for her to be able to tell you that while thinking about it. While thinking about it, yes. And not to do it like a formula of... And for you, how long did it take you to get up from that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Surely I was much more...

What was important to me, or at least to me, were the children, much more than me. It's funny because my daughter and my son were saying the opposite. When they were talking, they were saying, do you realize that we lost our mother? Yes, OK, that's tough, but do you realize that dad has known her for a long time and he's in love before having children. And it's this woman in the whole, not just the mother who loses. It was beautiful from their point their part to think about that.

I was much more, I was like, my God, but they lose their mother. It's huge. So I was much more concerned about their state than about mine. And even that, I survived. So I did things wrong, where I maybe wasn't where I should have been at that moment with them,

when they needed it, and all that. I tried, but maybe there was a limit to what I was able to give, because I was empty and I was devastated, so I would have liked to maybe... There must have been in what I was able to give because I was emptied and I was devastated myself. So I would have liked to be... He must have had problems.

But I think we love each other enough and we understand each other enough to do the cleaning in there and keep the essentials. And I think we succeeded. And they have all the merit, too, for each of them, for their person, to have succeeded in going through and to to give themselves the means to pass through. But I can't say how long it took. It must have taken a couple of years. Yes. Yes, yes. And even if...

It will always remain a part of my life It's precious, important, beautiful and full. That's for sure. But she taught me a lot of those moments. Thanks to her, I hope to leave with the same dignity, the same abnegation and the same serenity as her. Yes, because if she hadn't said those phrases, probably the rest would have been different. Well, that's for sure. And when I learned that in the morning she ran in the hospital corridor because she didn't want to die at the same time. So it's like, it's her too. And then he had to catch her because she felt it and she didn't want to.

She ran until she was hungry and all that. Yeah, because I think there's still, you know, you know it's going to happen. It's one thing. You're prepared for that. But when the moment is there... It must, it must, that's for sure. It's there. Everything you see, you won't see it again. We don't know, it must, that's for sure. It's there, you know. Everything you see, you won't see it anymore. We don't know what's after, we don't know.

But we can imagine that we can accept it. But when the moment comes, we would like to delay it. Well, that's for sure. It's for sure. And you don't know how... And you're still struggling all this time. Even if you accept, accept, accept, accept... There's this thing of you that...

You try to live, you try to live too. So you have this kind of fight that... Is that it? Do you take care of your health? Yes, but I could take care of more. But I'm pretty... Yes, I'm pretty... I had a big hypochondriac fight, so I tend to...

I do sports and... I'm preoccupied with that. And I'm lucky because I have a lot of energy in life. So that's a gift. It's wonderful because having energy gives you an incredible swing, and it's a measure at the same time to say, OK, I know where I'm tired, I know what's tiring me,

I know what's taking away that energy. And I don't have a choice but to be in shape. I can't... I can't go to the rap or the go, or go to the party too much when I work like I work. It's not possible. I can do it a little bit. But it's good to take care of yourself. Yes, and it's necessary. Especially when you see people leaving who are sick like that, who fight a long time, who are moving.

Is it difficult to treat? Yes. Is it difficult to know that your treatment can be done. There are a lot of things in there. It's also difficult to accompany someone. I don't know how to say it. We don't like to hear a fight. My mother, when she had cancer, she called him, she gave him a name, her cancer, you know, so she had a name, and it was...

She had personalized it. You understand? So it wasn't a fight, it was, I'm going to put him down. You know, it was funny. At the same time, when the oncologist said that she was fighting someone at the beginning, but who is that?

Well, it's cancer. He loved that. Yes, he loved that. When she had another form of cancer, she gave him another name. She said, I don't have one, I have two. And he was there, and he's innocent, because if he makes me die, he's going to die. You know, it was like... you know, you understand, he really had a speech... Because sometimes when we say there is a fight, it's for sure that...

I never said that my mother had lost her fight, you know, because for her, she was there, we're going to lose both. I don't lose my fight, we lose a fight. For her, it was us. But it remains when you, you know, you put this battle in there anyway. The body is, you know, the body is diminished by the disease, by the treatments. We were exhausted after. You, you have two children, you know, your spouse, there was exhaustion, there was mourning, but there was physical and psychological fatigue.

It was very big. Yes, absolutely. It's psychological. No, no, that's it. Look, it's like a lot of people going through that. But it's important to hear stories like you're telling, in the sense that there's a life after. And you have to give yourself that right too. Yes, yes, yes. And you, she allowed you to do that. Yes.

And if, I had that chance to hear her blessing in a way. But if we don't receive it, we still have to say that we have a life and that we have to, you know, it's possible that the person has not been able to say it, it's possible that she has not returned. But you have to continue. And it's possible that the person wasn't able to say it, it's possible that she didn't do it. But you have to continue. And especially with children, especially with people to love. And it's like... And we continue to love through that, through family,

we continue to love. So it's like there's something that's still alive through her, despite everything. So no, no, it's... As much as it's difficult and reprehensible, as much as it's... It transforms. Yeah. And it helps us for others. It also relativizes things that are not important. It's true.

And my God, we don't do anything about it sometimes. Are you ready for the heroes and companionship level? Well, yes, certainly. I know you were looking forward to it. That's the part I came for. Yes, exactly. You're going to give me five, you're going to choose one. I chose one.

We're just answering one question. Okay, because it's too pointy. No, no, that's what you're giving me. Wait, how many do you have? Give me four. Oh, okay. You're giving me four? Okay. No, no, that's what you're giving me. Give me a four. Oh, okay. Give me a four. No, no, excuse me. That's it, you give me a four and I'll take one.

Perfect. Is sexuality a taboo subject in your family? What place do you give to emotional intimacy in your relationship? What would you have liked to know about sexuality at the age of 20? Is it comfortable in the sphere of intimacy? Hey, that's a good question. But yes. Answer that. It's...

Is it... Well, it's true that sexuality is not a taboo subject in my family. If we can say that, my mother wrote a book on it. Yes! Your mother talked about her lovers. I had seen her on my show. Oh yes? Oh yes, okay. By the way, there were other ladies who weren't so comfortable. Well, no, I understand because... But that, my mother, is in all her...

She's great for that, but I say it because no, it's not... We've already played around with a family played around the table with the kids. Your worst sexual adventure ever. What is it? And we tell each other everything. Hey! For the dad! Hey! I learned things! No, but it was very joyful, all that was very funny.

And my mother, no, that's it. My mother, no, no, it would have been impossible to live in a family with my mother having taboo, it's not that... it's just that she still had a way of including sexuality in her life in such a natural, healthy way. I don't want to talk about her, but I really think that, at the same time as she started as a great writer when she was young, and that it was important to have read such a writer and such a classic and all that, and to go to the theater and to go to the opera or Eva Encore. Sexuality is also part of that. In a Encore, and sexuality is part of that too.

In a life gen, it's part of a life gen. Yes, and something sacred, fun, that needs to be taken care of and cultivated, because in the pleasures of life, it takes up a lot of space. As much as going to listen to an opera at the symphony house, it's fun to make love in the desert with a camel farmer. It's beautiful. It's like... And she... I'm sure I laughed when I laughed. She said, I wrote a book that talks about the men I met. I'd like you to read it before you tell me what you think.

That's funny, I remember. You were in a cafe at the Maisonneuve boulevard. I said, yes, you wrote that? Yes, I wrote that. I said, yes, I will take the book and I will leave with it. I gave you the news. Oh boy! What did you get? Hey, I got something solid! I did, first, there were three quarters of the things I didn't know.

Sure. In which train it happened, and... There was a Louis Vuitton belt, and the other one was like, OK. And then, while reading the bed, I thought, there are some people I've seen pass by here. Lovers who have tried to become my friends. They would come and sit in my room next to me on the bed. I remember one in particular who was like, I think he was a pilot,

an Englishman or an Englishman. And then he came to sit down. He had to tell my wife, to my mother. He had to say, hey, he's going to be my husband, because my mother said, my son doesn't like that, the lovers, or he doesn't like that when I invite men to the house. It's like, it's true that I didn't like that, I thought that. I thought that was awkward, weird. I wasn't comfortable being a baby.

And I think he decided to try to be my bed. I'm going to the top. No, I'm just sitting there. Sitting on my bed, dressed in caporal, with those little, little, little aviator caps. So what are you doing today? I don't know. Well, would you like to maybe take a walk with me? No.

Would you like to have a sandwich? No. Would you like me to leave? Yes. Sylvie went... It was the only one who tried something. A completely failed maneuver, but know that. So it's going to be that.

It's pretty much the same. No need. So I went over it again by reading the book and... And at the end of the book... Yes, but there were still details there. Hey, it's... I can imagine that it's your mother. Well, yes.

And then I put the book back. There's a lot of information. A lot of information. I put the book back a week later back in the same little cafe a week later. I read it, it's good, it's interesting, it's surprising. She said yes, you think? Well, I said, it's pretty surprising. But what... The thing...

It's surprising, but I say in your prologue, it would be fun if you put us a little... A prologue she wrote, a kind of preface she wrote, and all that. But I say, it doesn't seem to talk about... It seems to talk about you, of course, but it's so incredible, all these stories with all these men and these adventures. It's like you're wondering if it's invented, and where does your love for men come from? We have the taste for knowledge. She goes, oh, OK. She comes back with a preface. Wow! Where she talks about her father. Where she talks about her relationship with him.

It was almost incest. It came that he had almost agress him. He had an impetus. I go, OK. Oh boy. and all that, and he had a grip. I was like, OK, oh boy, OK, there, it's like... So it also gives meaning to everything that follows in the book. It's great. So I found that really...

It takes away all the notion of judgment. Yes. You know, in the sense that it's integrated, precisely, as you say, it's... I can imagine a book, this book without preface, it's like bits, it's like a need to tell about precise moments. That's it.

And to share, but why share that? What is it? And where does this love and this desire to share come from? To share. Yes, too. There was like a part of it. It's sad, your mother. Yes, yes, totally.

And you know, assume, assuming and happy. And even today, I would say at 86 years old, she's great, you know. But I'm not interested in that anymore. I was saying that before too. And it's enough to travel to the Indies. And a camel farmer

who passes through the desert, the machine is gone now. He's so hungry. There's a camel farmer passing through the desert. The machine is gone, mom. He's making a lot of noise. He's so hungry. When you had your first sexual relations, did you talk about them openly, your mother? No. I can't say that. No. I remember. No. I remember once, in our two and a half, where there was my blonde at the time, Maryse Blueind-Valéphil, whom I salute if I ever...

It's cool. She'll be happy that you're doing it. Yes, she'll be happy. You know, I can tell you that. No, but I remember once, really loose, loose, loose, that I was. We were making love, and when my mother came into the room, without knocking, which is not her habit, and then she came in, and then she was probably very offended by what she saw. So when she came close to the bed, without saying a word,

she stayed there. And then I see, I see Mary's face, which is there, which goes... And I let go, I take the cloth and I cover my head. And I leave the head of my blonde in front of her. So I was talking about it, no. You didn't need to. I didn't need to. This time I didn't need to say much when I understood. What made me laugh was that she was there and she was like... She didn't need to. I didn't need to. This time, I didn't need to say much when I understood. What made me laugh was that she was there and she was like...

She didn't move. She didn't move. She came next to the bed. It was quite particular. She didn't say, oh sorry. No. She said, oh. She moved forward.

Well... So, Maryse, what's her name? Maryse, I say hi, I kiss ahead. Well... So, Maryse, what's her name? Maryse, I greet you, I kiss you. Did she keep going back home? Did she have a relationship with her different mother? Yes, but they were talking about it. They were talking about it. They were talking about it.

But I wasn't involved in those conversations. No, Maryse was like... Hey, it's like... There's no taboo and no taboo. There's no taboo and no taboo there. There's no taboo, no taboo. But she comes out at some point. It's funny because the memory I have is that she took care to close the door slowly without knocking it. She comes next to the bed, she stays there for 30 seconds, and then she leaves and she closes the door.

Without making any noise. And then I'm like, hey, are you gone? Are you gone? Yes? Okay. So I was like... I said, okay, that's a good thing to do. No, but I remember that after, I think we had a sentence to exchange. Like...

Like... My mother must have said, like, you like each other, huh? I said yes. I said yes. Hey, I was 13 years old, I was really a young neophyte. My initial marriage was older, I was 15. I was lucky. So you're not a taboo, clearly. No, it really wasn't a taboo. No, no, no, no. And then...

And it's perfect. It's very simple. In the family, we don't count our personal, intimate lives. You didn't go into the children's room. No. No, no, no, no. No, it never happened to me. I'm doing no, no. No, it never happened to me. I'm just doing the math. No, it never happened to me. Once, the little neighbor with Leanne,

yeah, he was... I had made a bed in Baldaquan with my daughter, with four little arches up, and a little sail. And my nose... I went into the room on a Saturday afternoon, and I saw the two little feet of the neighbor who were passing by the little curtain.

But I didn't stay there. You didn't go to the side of the room. I didn't go to the side to say hello, who's there, who's doing what? No, I didn't stay there. I left the bedroom and went out slowly. We also reproduced some things. I got out of the room, I didn't go back to sleep. You know, we also make things up. Yeah. That's funny. Last question, Optoraiso. If you look at the whole of your career, what are you most proud of?

Oh, well, of my children. Of what they've become, of what they are today, of what they are... Of the way they manage their lives, and of what they are, of the way they manage their lives, and of what they question themselves, and of everything they are. I know that I have a limited responsibility to that, in the sense that I am part of your father and they become what they are. But I'm not proud of them compared to me, I'm proud of them in the sense that I'm happy and privileged to see what they've managed to do with their lives and how they manage to go through difficult and difficult moments, and keep a distance with themselves.

They are quite amazing. That would be it. I am also very happy because it's... to work in this moment in love and happiness with a wonderful woman. Because that's an extra life that life gave me to be able to redo my life with a woman who is also, who inspires me in time and who also me at the same time. We work together on something that belongs to us both. It's really wonderful. It's not bad.

What type of lover are you? I'm hungry, I think. I'm very hungry. I think I'm very hungry. I'm very... For real, I think I'm very listening. I'm trying very sincerely to do my best so that everyone is well. And my wife, obviously, is also concerned about her. And it concerns her daughter too. And I'm happy to succeed in the sense that we...

to be close, healthy, without any back-thinking, with a child who lives, who has been living with me for a week or two, for ten years, and who has never had any ambivalence, or has never been any ambivalence, there has never been... It's the daughter of the woman I love, that she had with another man,

with whom we get along very well. And we know perfectly well who does what. Your role is clear. My role is clear. There is no ambiguity. It's true, sometimes it's the challenge, the ambiguity in this function. And it's true that at the beginning you don't know how to place yourself when you live it for the first time, but now everything is clear, so that's also built with the rest.

And no, it's very... You're in a beautiful period of your life. I think so, really. I realize it every day. I get stuck sometimes, but it's almost true. Sometimes I'm like, OK, wait, it's like... Apart from living the traffic, once in a while it's never ending. My life is beautiful. And I make jokes saying that, of course, but I don't want it to stop. But if it had to stop, I wouldn't have the impression of leaving at a moment where I'm like, Oh, I didn't have... I was chosen. I was really privileged and chosen.

And you see, everyone is on nice paths too. It brings peace to see a gang that is doing well. Yes, and that's what I will always want, even better, hoping that they will go even better, and that life will be good and sweet life. But I think they are on the right track. They are moving forward and they are solid. They are inspiring. Last question, if you had to write your biography, what would be the title of that book?

Mom, can you please close the door? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha with the picture of Mary, like that, and a head covered with a cloth. It would be the cover. No, I don't know. I don't really know. I don't know. It would be like... I like long titles. If I could... A big blond with a show on black. Yes, that's it. And people would always say,

Hey, it's long, huh? It's long. I like that. with a show on me. A show on us, yes. And people would always say, «Hey, it's long, huh?» «It's long, huh?» «But I like that.» And then there's the first sentence from Proust's book, which is called... I wanted to animate a talk show at the end of the evening called «Long time I slept happily», which is the first sentence from, I think,

not «Un amour de Swan», but «A la recherche du temps perdu». And I think it's a sentence that means a lot of healing, but in search of lost time. And I think it's a sentence that means a lot of things. For a long time, I slept happily, as if for a long time I might have been passing by things to live. But it could be that kind of life. It could be that. For a long time, I slept happily.

Especially with what you're going through, trying to capture all your moments without impatience, without anger, but in a more serene way. It could look like that. Yes, it could be that, indeed. Thank you, Marc Labresse. What an incredible meeting. Well, it was a pleasure. Thank you and good luck for the game. It's going to work this year. Open your game.

Open your game. That's me, it's open your game and yours is open your game. Reouvre ton jeu! Moi, c'est ouvre ton jeu, puis le tien, c'est rouvre ton jeu. Alors continue tes rouvres ton jeu. C'est un bonheur de te voir ouvrir tes jeux avec tes invités. Et moi, c'est un bonheur de te recevoir. Ouvre ton jeu comme invité. Bien, ça m'a fait plaisir. Merci beaucoup. Bonne journée! Merci, et merci à tout le monde d'avoir été là pour nous au prochain podcast. This episode was presented by Karim Jonka, the Reference in Care for the Health in Quebec, and by the virtual community Marie-Claude. Table tennis opens your game and is available everywhere in stores and on Randolph.ca