Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #92 Rosalie Vaillancourt | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the podcast, Open Your Game. This week, our guest Rosalie Vaillancourt. I am impatient for her to come because I think Rosalie really represents the relief. The humorous relief, the relief as a young woman that we see on TV, I find her inspiring. I loved having her in Sortez-moi d'ici. She also writes texts, she is a writer. So I think she is versatile. She's a young mother, so it will be a meeting with the relief.

Starting point is 00:00:36 So it's coming, but just before, I'm going to read you some testimonies from people who write us comments. And I always repeat it, but never hesitate to write to us on the different platforms. There is always a space to us comments. And I always repeat, never hesitate to write to us on the different platforms. There is always a space to give comments. We try to answer your questions. We also try to transmit to the guests the comments

Starting point is 00:00:56 that we receive to thank them for sharing their story. Because that's what it is first, Open Your Game, it's the story of our guests. So Rosalie says, I started listening to Ouvre ton Jeu with the interview of Michelle Charette last year during a long period of anxiety. This listening made me feel good and helped me move forward.

Starting point is 00:01:14 Going through a difficult period recently, I went to listen to this wonderful interview again, and it had the same effect. A huge thank you for showing us the vulnerable side of humans. This brings us closer to the artists received and greatly helps us with our personal plans. Thank you. And I would like to thank Rosalie for sharing this part of her life with us. And I also want to tell you that the advantage of podcasts is that they are always available if you go, among other things, on the YouTube channel. All podcasts are there, so there is no date of release.

Starting point is 00:01:50 And we don't need to listen to them in order either. We don't need to... We can listen to one end of one, the other end. That's what I like about this podcast universe. There is great lot of freedom. The other day, I'm going to tell you an anecdote because the other day, I go into a restaurant in Quebec and there is another person who came in just before me. And when she saw me, she came in and was like,

Starting point is 00:02:19 Marie-Claude Barrette, Marie-Claude Barrette, yes, hello. Maybe she's listening to this right now and she's going to recognize herself. She says, well, I'm here because I have, yes, hello. Maybe she's listening to this right now and she'll recognize herself. She said, well, I'm here because I have a meeting, but I just want to tell you that I'm from Moncton and I listened to three episodes of Open Your Game on my way. I arrive and I see you. And I was like, wow, you listened to three episodes of Open Your Game, but as she said, each episode is so different because she's the color of the guest that it sounds very good. So that's pretty extraordinary. José tells us about the episode of Marie Laberge and she tells us what an extraordinary interview.

Starting point is 00:02:54 I read most of her books with so much pleasure. But after listening to this conversation with her, I want to read everything she wrote that day. I am happy to know Marie Laberge better. I had a great pleasure listening to her tell her story. I was also happy to meet Marie Laberge. We often met, but I had never had the chance to interview her. And we know this woman by her writing. We've been seeing her in the public sphere for years,

Starting point is 00:03:24 but I hadn't heard of interviews where we knew her We know her by her writing. It's been years since we've seen her in the public sphere, but I hadn't heard much of interviews where we knew her as much because she revealed herself a lot in the Open Your Game she did with us. So, of course, I would like to thank our partners, including Karine Jean-Cocq, who offers 15% discount on online purchases with the promo code Ouvre Ton Jeu 15. Et Ross et Compagnie offre 15 % de rabais en ligne avec le code promo Rose 15. Le Marie-Claude, la communauté virtuelle, est maintenant un partenaire du podcast Ouvre Ton Jeu.

Starting point is 00:04:00 Et nous offrons aussi un rabais de 10 % sur l'abonnement annuel. And we also offer a 10% discount on the annual subscription. You can go to mariclaude.com and the promo code is CLUB10. And of course, we have the Optoraiso card, which is always the card that ends the podcast well. Well, they are also partners of the podcast, Open Your Game. The team, always present, Caroline Dionne à la coordination, David Bourgeois à la mise en ligne, Jonathan Fréchette à la création numérique, Etienne Collard à la captation.

Starting point is 00:04:33 Alors évidemment, je remercie tout ce beau monde-là. Je vous remercie d'être présente, de faire vivre Ouvre Ton Jeu, d'en parler, d'échanger, de commenter. Et aujourd'hui, j'ai déjà hâte de lire vos commentaires sur ce qui va se passer avec cette rencontre. Open your game, talk about it, exchange, comment. And today, I can't wait to read your comments on what's going to happen with this meeting with this young woman, Rosalie Vaillancourt. So, place to Rosalie. I had hidden my mascara in my shampoo.

Starting point is 00:04:56 You had hidden it! So you were putting mascara on? I put it on like twice, and then it was dripping, it caught my eye, and it wasn't a good idea. I did it twice and I regretted it. I felt like I was cheating on an exam. I thought you could have created the desire too. No, no, no. But what I realized is that beauty is a matter of trust.

Starting point is 00:05:17 How do you feel? Because I never felt as beautiful as when I left here. I felt like everyone as when I left. I had the impression that everyone found me beautiful. The people around me were telling me all the time that I was so beautiful. I didn't have a mirror, so I was like, OK, I'm really too chic right now in this genre. I really am. And when I had a mirror, I was like, OK, no, I wasn't that beautiful. When I look at the pictures, I was like, OK, but I look so happy to be there. And it looks so happy that I find myself beautiful looking at these pictures. But really, over there, it's the first time I said to myself,

Starting point is 00:05:53 I'm a beautiful woman. I'm really beautiful. I'm so beautiful. People... The look in the eyes of others was so much nicer than the look I have in the eyes of myself, normally in a mirror. Open Your Game is presented by Karine Jonquard, the skin care expert, available in nearly 1,000 pharmacies in Quebec, and by the virtual community Marie-Clobe, available on Marie-Clobe.com. Marie-Claude.com. The Table Game opens your game and is available everywhere in the store and on Randolph.ca.

Starting point is 00:06:30 Today, I'm receiving a girl that I feel like we haven't seen in the public space because it seems like she keeps adding strings to her bow. I'm really happy to have her in front of me. I don't know her that well. So I'm going to discover her with Rosalie Vaillancourt. Hi Rosalie! Hi, how are you? Some people...

Starting point is 00:06:55 It's true, Rosalie, that you're a girl who has a lot of strings to her bow. Do you agree with that, that you're versatile, that you do several things? Well, I do several things, but I don't know if I do them all well. But I like to touch everything. But I have to admit that I have some strings that I prefer. What do you prefer? Well, it's definitely humor, 100%. I really like to do shows.

Starting point is 00:07:19 That's my favorite string, I would say. I really liked the animation. Actress, I like that. It's a string that I have,. I really liked the animation. Actress, I like that. It's a rope that I have, that I like, but that I prefer my other ropes. And I really like, maybe, what is DIY. Maybe DIY, things like that. And that's it.

Starting point is 00:07:37 You do, in English, do you do... DIY. Yes, that's it. So do you do like craftsmanship? Yes, I do craftsmanship. Tell us what you do, it helps work? Yes, I do artisanal work. What do you do? I do embroidery. I'm not very good at all, but I like to do it.

Starting point is 00:07:52 So, embroidery. I did, my God, painting. But that's good. You get it. Yes, really. Do you like the result? No. What do you do with that? Do you remove it?

Starting point is 00:08:11 No, I give it as a gift. Everyone is like, oh, thank you! And you, among other things, animated with Guy Jourdoin, Get Out of Here. How did you find this experience? Really fun. Really, really, really thrilling. I couldn't, it looked like... You know, the days of shooting, you know what it is, sometimes it can get long. But there are so many people who are dying in front of you that it gives you a little pep every time you do an activity. You don't have time to be tired, you don't have time to be like,

Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh, it's a hard shooting,hour shoot. You're not there. Because you have empathy. Because you've also lived it on the other side. Well, yes. I tell him how difficult it can be. There's not only... What makes us do it is difficult. It's more the side, like, you haven't slept much,

Starting point is 00:08:57 you don't eat well, you go to the bathroom in front of people you don't know, you take your shower in cold water, and you're afraid that as a snake bites you. You know, it's a lot. There's a lot of vigilance. Did that experience change you,

Starting point is 00:09:12 getting out of here? In fact, both experiences changed me, both the animation and the... The doing. Being a camper really changed me in the sense that I had the impression that I needed it at that time in my life, to be with other people.

Starting point is 00:09:27 It had been a long time since I was with my baby and my chum. It had been a long time since I thought I was making new friends. Just talking to people I didn't know, it hadn't happened to me in 3 or 4 years. Because when you meet someone and you're known, it seems like you're already going with they know who you are, but you don't know who they are. It's not equal from the start, while there, people, you know, everyone already knows

Starting point is 00:09:54 a little bit, so it can go deeper quickly. It's often new friends, it's been a long time since I've done that. Yeah, it was a little getting to know each other without knowing each other. Yeah. Because I thought it was beautiful, the relationships that developed when you did it. There were almost unexpected friendships. But I'm really the same. I don't see the ages. Often people say that, I don't see the sex, I'm friends with guys and girls.

Starting point is 00:10:24 I don't see the ages. I don't see that. I don't see the sexes. No, no, no. I'm friends with guys and girls. I don't see the ages. I don't see the difference. Between me and Dave, I've never seen so much age difference. I'm able to be friends with both very young and old people, and I'm really comfortable with all ages. That's important. I think it's in our profession too. We see so many people of different ages.

Starting point is 00:10:42 Sometimes researchers are younger. There are so many different ages that you don't have the choice to adapt. And also, you realize that it's so nourishing to be with so many different ages. You have access to many pillars of society, and that's what I like most. Are you ready to open your game? Yes. So, the green level is generic questions. Okay. The yellow questions are more specific.

Starting point is 00:11:09 The red questions are more personal. The pink and pinkish questions are sexual and sensual. And it looks like it. And it looks like it. You'll see, it's going to be fine. And we have the question, after all, with which we always end, which is a nice question to end this meeting. You have your joker.

Starting point is 00:11:29 If I ask you some questions and you're ready to answer, you can put your joker on the table and at that moment, I'll change the question. OK, perfect. So, green level, you're going to put them on the table. You're going to give me five. Five? Yes.

Starting point is 00:11:42 My God, that's a lot. But of these five, you're going to answer one, and I'm going to going to answer one of these five questions, and I'm going to answer one of them, and you're going to choose one, and I'm going to choose one. So you're going to answer two questions out of five. Okay, perfect. So you have choices there, anyway. There you go. I chose this one.

Starting point is 00:11:59 Have you already done Tiro Taro? Yes, yes, recently, and it was at Ross. It was crazy! But it wasn't what I expected. She told me, I see a lot of pigs. I was like, well, if you sexually... She said, no, no, you're fine and we're taking care of you. I'm like, yes, so much better!

Starting point is 00:12:19 I said, am I going to stay a pig all my life? And she said yes. I'm like, phew, yes sir! It was good news! I was happy, but the I'm like, phew, yes sir! It was good news. I was happy, but the rest was like, ah, but you know, there's a big break in your career. I'm like, ah, because I'm going to have a baby. She said, I don't see a baby.

Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm like, well, I'm going to stay with my husband. Ah, there are chicanes. I'm like, well, you tell me something positive, it was my party. Oh. Yeah. But I should have told her it was my party from the beginning, maybe it would have been more positive. But in any case, the fact that you are under the pig's sign, is that good? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:51 I love being fat. I love being fat. So, I choose one of these questions. What importance do you give to others' looks? What is your greatest fear? What is your worst flaw? When I look in the mirror, I see. How do you react to authority?

Starting point is 00:13:14 So... I'm already full. What is the importance of the court's view of others? What is your greatest fear? What is your worst flaw when I look in the mirror and how do you react to authority? Well, I've been through it with my fears. I still like fears. Yeah, what is your biggest fear? Well, you know, there are certainly deeper fears.

Starting point is 00:13:36 You know, dying alone, things like that. Dying in dangerous circumstances. But there are fears, you know, gnawing that I have fear that I had to talk about with a psychologist because I was scared to take my bath. To close my eyes and imagine that he's there. Do you remember where that fear of sharks comes from? Did you listen to jazz? Yes, I listened to it when I was maybe 10 years old. But I was 10 years old.

Starting point is 00:14:08 But I was already scared before that. It's really the depth and imagining something. And my brain is so badly made. Why is there a rock in my uncle's pool? Because I listened to jazz when I was young. I was less young than you, but I was scared to go to the pool. It's an oratory pool with four waterfalls. I was scared, but jazz really marked a lot of people.

Starting point is 00:14:34 Well, there's that. You were already scared, it's for sure that it doesn't help. I just remembered that my uncle, so that we don't go into the water, he pretended that he was sucked in by the bottom. Maybe that's it. That also worried me. So you're going to swim in the sea? No.

Starting point is 00:14:50 No, no. There's no aquatic activity that I'm going to let you do. Swimming is less painful, but the sea... When we're on a trip, I'm going to go to my knees. I was like, that's enough. Do you look around if there are whales around? I watch them all the time, but the worst thing is that I would like to see them. Let's say I'm on a boat, I'm still curious to see them.

Starting point is 00:15:12 And I tried to get rid of that fear by watching at least five rock videos a day. But the videos they put, sometimes it's just scary. And it's not real business. It's like crazy Rockets eating people. And I'm like, it didn't help me fight my fear. It's for sure. I went on a trip where there were Rockets attacks in that place. Cape Cod? No, it was the Pacific Ocean.

Starting point is 00:15:40 And I tried to rationalize myself. We were trying to dive not too far. And while we were there, there was a lady who got attacked. And I was like, oh well, it's hard to rationalize that fear. Thank you for helping me with my fear. I help you with your fear. But except that they told us not to go after the rain, which had even more useful moments to be careful.

Starting point is 00:16:04 Because they said that after the rain, sometimes there were little fish that were dying and they were going back up to the surface because of the rain. So the sharks had a tendency to go up to the top of the sun. Listen, I followed all of this. Finally, there were no others. But there are people who are also going to the shore. You have to be careful. But your psychologist, did he help you with that part? I don't remember because it's been more than 10 years since I went to see him.

Starting point is 00:16:28 I talked to him and he didn't take it very seriously. You say there are no sharks here anyway. It's a phobia. Yes, it's a phobia. I might have to consult again. But at the same time, I tell myself, it's too dangerous. If this phobia is there, it may be there for a good reason. But get me out of here, go in the water.

Starting point is 00:16:49 Yes, but I never marked my contract. Nothing in the water, where there may be rocks. So if it still took this fear away from me, I would say, there's certainly not any. You know, in the lakes, I swim, but in the sea, where there may be some, it's bad fun. And you know, I'm trying to rationalize myself. There's no good blood, there's no rock in the sea or whatever it may be. Okay, okay. And I try to rationalize myself.

Starting point is 00:17:05 There's no good in that. There's no hurricane in the lake. Do you have any other fears? Well... I'm still afraid of... Well, I'm afraid of the sharks. It's so weird, but... I'm afraid of people who speak loudly. When I was little, I remember that...

Starting point is 00:17:31 When there was someone, an itinerant person who spoke loudly and who was deaf, I remember that it scared me so much and I wasn't able to rationalize. My parents would grab the fork and they were like, Look at him, girls, look at him! You know, it's kind of like staying a little bit, you know. Earlier, you said you were afraid of dying alone. Well, like everyone, I guess. But you're already thinking about that?

Starting point is 00:17:58 Yes, well, yes. I'm afraid of, you know, you're doing your life with so many... I'm doing my life with so many others, I need so many others, I have so many... I love being in a gang and all that, that I tell myself, if I had fallen in love all by myself, it would be really boring. It's like I missed my death. I wouldn't laugh. But you, what are you afraid of? Well, anyway, it's the first time I've missed my death.

Starting point is 00:18:28 It's a beautiful phrase. What am I afraid of? Well, I was allergic to guavas, to bees. I have my Epipen. I should be made aware of. It's really part of my short-term projects. So I have an irrational fear too when I'm somewhere, and I hear a noise, well, in any case, sure, and that's it.

Starting point is 00:18:49 Ah, but first of all, it's normal. Well, it's normal, but still, the feeling of... People, no, but it's okay, it never stings. Ah, I... You know, it's crazy how fear changes the breathing, how you become... You know, I... So that's good, it's not irrational,

Starting point is 00:19:07 but now, you know, I should go and become more sensitive and stop having that fear, you know, in September. But in the meantime, it's a fear that protects you. Oh, completely. Have you ever watched the movie My Girl? No. You know, the little guy, he's five years old, he gets bitten because he went to get his friend's bag,

Starting point is 00:19:21 he gets bitten by bees and then he dies. No, no, I don't think so. There are so many people who were... who were afraid after that of bees because of that, and then the little bag of her friend, he got bitten by bees and then he died. There are so many people who were scared after that, bees because of that, and then the little girl, her friend is dead, and she tries to put on her glasses. He can't see anything without his glasses! No, no, I'm going to watch that. It's really good, it's really a good movie,

Starting point is 00:19:36 it's very disturbing. So I would say that it's my biggest fear. Otherwise, I don't have as much fear as that. I was afraid of spiders before, now I I don't have that phobia anymore. The ghosts? I loved that. I lived in a house that was 170 years old. When you were young?

Starting point is 00:19:59 No, I had kids. My son Mario grew up in that house and we bought it back at some point. But nothing happened to him. But I was hoping, you know. He was exposing the dead in one of the rooms of the house a long time ago because before there was no slaughterhouse, since it was 160. Mario was the sixth generation of his family. I was hoping. Listen, Mario was the sixth generation of his family. But I...

Starting point is 00:20:25 I was hoping you would. Well... It's funny because I grew up in a house, and it was built in 1770, okay? It's a really old house in Saint-Céntia-Sainte. And I've never been comfortable in my house. You know, like when you're little, you're going to bed and everything cracks, and everything makes noise, and I was so scared. And then my mother said to me,

Starting point is 00:20:46 Hey, someone in your room is already dead. Because someone who was dead in the house, we didn't know which room it was, she said it was in my room. I've never been comfortable in my house. Never. So you're scared anyway. If there were spirits, would you be curious about that? No, no, I'm like, keep going. Go further.

Starting point is 00:21:02 I mean, why should we be in contact? You've made your life, I have my life. You won, Lee. How do you say that? You live just once. You know, live that life. I know the joke. Live it fully. Yes, that's it.

Starting point is 00:21:16 It calms me when I know that after death, there's nothing. You know, like when someone says, oh, we're going to come back. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I live my life so fully that after it's over, I'll rest. It's sweet. I don't want to have another life. You see, my mom, when she died,

Starting point is 00:21:33 she told me, my brother and I, my brother was less open to that. She said, I'm going to manifest myself in the form of a feather. Besides, I got tattooed a feather after one year after her death. And it happened, it's been two and a half years since she died, it happened several times where I had a question,

Starting point is 00:21:55 and a feather was coming. The first time I went back to work a few days after her death on Marie-Claude's set, I hadn't seen the changes in the set because I was in palliative care with her. So we had a meeting, I said, before, could I just go on the set, see what has changed? Then I sat down and I said, who put the feather, who put the feather? And everyone was there, hey, we're going to take the feather off if it bothers you. And then my hairdresser Richard knew very well what I was trying to say.

Starting point is 00:22:25 And the feather came off in front of me. And I still had that feather, but it was so strange. So it started like, I would say, five days after his death, he started to have feathers. And you know, I tell myself that whether it's a coincidence or not, to believe it, it's good. I think it's good for us. Yes, that's it. But maybe for the... You know, I tell myself, you know, if people feel even better about me, but I personally, you know, I don't want to... I don't want to... I don't want to deal with you when it's going to be over.

Starting point is 00:22:55 I want to have my moment. But you know, in my case, I find it comforting. Yes. You know, it's not a beautiful love. For people who stay... Yes, I understand. That's it. That's the kind of spirit of agreement, you know. My parents, my grandparents, I find it comforting. Yes. It's not a beautiful club. For people who stay, yes, I understand.

Starting point is 00:23:05 That's it. It's that kind of spirit of agreement. My parents and grandparents. But those you don't know. Yes, yes, that's it. Those I don't know, I'm like, I didn't know you alive, I don't want to see you dead. I don't want to know you in the afterlife. The question she chose, what importance do you give to others?

Starting point is 00:23:23 What importance do you give to others' views? I'm really ambivalent about it because I do it, but I'm not able to do it to the point that it changes me. It's a job of... of views. I have to please, otherwise I wouldn't sell or be caught or I won't come back on TV. I have to please them, both in my own way and especially in what I say. So, it's still a pain for me when people don't like what I am. When they write, they say, tiring voice. I'm like, I know my voice is tiring, so is mine, but unfortunately I'm not able to change it.

Starting point is 00:24:02 I tried to smoke, it doesn't work. Whatever, I'm not able to change myself. And I love my job so much that it goes further than what others have on me, which are negative. I love it so much that I go over it. So when you do what, you're not thinking about what others might think of you? Well, no, because I have fun.

Starting point is 00:24:23 You know, it's like, you know when you're in a car and you're getting off and you scream, and you have so much fun, and you scream with your throat out, and you don't even realize what you look like. And then you look at the photo and you're like, my God, I looked like a lady, a big crazy woman. Well, that's what it does to me when I'm on stage and when I'm on TV, I don't even realize it.

Starting point is 00:24:44 After I look at myself, I'm like, my God, it was so fun, that at the moment, I didn't think about it. Your voice. So, it's been a long time since... I find it interesting that you talk about your voice. It's true that you have a voice that we don't forget. It's still a...

Starting point is 00:24:59 It's an important commercial brand, the voice. You know, on the radio, those who make voice... If we always say, we have to recognize the voice quickly, it can't be a generic voice. You say, my voice, I tried to smoke. Is that voice, is that when you realized that maybe your voice was particular? It's when I started doing TV. Before? No, no. No, no. No one ever told me that my voice was particular. My mother told me she was surprised when people started saying, Oh, it's okay, but it's true that with stress, my voice becomes more acute, you know?

Starting point is 00:25:32 It's normal. But you have a voice that stands out, you know? You have a different voice. So that's it, when you're stressed, it goes to the others. Yeah, maybe. But at the same time, I don't realize it, you know? In addition, the worst thing is that it seems like we hear our voices more loudly, so I'm like, God, it's gotta be a joke to be honest.

Starting point is 00:25:48 Because I don't hear it louder than people hear it. But I was told that my octaves had dropped since I had my baby. I had dropped four octaves, almost. Oh, that's a lot! It's a lot, because I had recorded an album for a musical comedy, like, finishing school at Mont-Roy a musical comedy, I think it was in 2016, when I finished school in Elmore. And I re-recorded it in 2021, and my voice had really changed. That's your diaphragm, basically.

Starting point is 00:26:16 It went down. I went down all the way. All the way down, all the way down at the same time. Did you find it hard to change your body after your daughter was born? No. I really thought it would be more difficult. It was something that stressed me out. Even when I was young, my cousin didn't talk about it. I didn't even know if I was going to have children because it would change my body.

Starting point is 00:26:44 When you want one, you want so much that I didn't even know if I'm going to have children because it's going to change my body. When you want one, you want so much one that I didn't think about it. When I was pregnant, they put cream on me, but you know, I ate like I've never eaten in my life. I was fine. After she was born, I lost her quickly. I realized that I was losing more weight quickly and I was better shape since I was little than before. Because hormones were in place at one point. I wasn't... I was less... In German, it was less stable than now. So I think it's easier for my body to manage it now than before. So all of that is fine with me.

Starting point is 00:27:19 It's for sure that yes, I have a high socket. But actually, I don't even have a picture of me dressed before. So I can't even compare myself to before, I don't remember. Now you have one. Oh, yes, yes. I don't do the same mistake twice. Now you're posing naked. No, no.

Starting point is 00:27:35 I like that. What you're doing. No, unfortunately. But basically, do you want other children too? Yes, I would like that. I would like to have a second child. But it's stressful. I've been putting it back on for a long time. Even though it's been two years.

Starting point is 00:27:54 I always say that it's been two years since we got married. But it's been two years since we said we were going to have another baby. In fact, when my daughter was born, it was so easy during the first year that we were like, we're going to do another one right away. And then she started going to the nursery and she started getting sick. Sick, sick, pneumonia, laryngitis, hospital often, and no sleep for a long time. It was so stressful that I was like, I don't want a second one.

Starting point is 00:28:21 And even people who say, children are always sick, but they still say, but I rarely saw a child as sick as that. You mean pneumonia, pneumonia is serious, as a disease. Yes, she had three in a year and a half. It takes a month before the child

Starting point is 00:28:35 falls asleep in her bed, almost, because she has all, she vomits, it's atrocious. So it took time before I wanted another one. Then after that, I went out of here, I did LOL, and I really liked my show. I I did Sorté Moiti, I did LoL, and I really liked my show.

Starting point is 00:28:47 I fell in love with my show and I said to myself, I'm just 31 years old. I can wait another two years, it's okay. And I have a big age difference with my sister and we get along really well. But then we made the decision that we might go out on a date in March or April. So you're in love with him?

Starting point is 00:29:04 Yes, ideally. not the Uber driver. So it comes, you have that, I mean it's in your head. Even though my tour dates are a consequence of that. That's what people forget, when you're a humorous woman, you have to think about that. You have to think, OK, this month I could make love so that 9 months later it would work, for example, because if I want to go on tour, one and a half years later it has to be there.

Starting point is 00:29:29 It's special to talk about that in front of your producers. Yeah, but this month I thought I was making love, and then if it doesn't work, maybe two months later we can add shows. Yeah, because being in humor, you're alone on stage, so if one night you're not there, we cancel. If you stop for three months, we cancel. It's not like a wig that can replace me. It's not like a play or an actor or an actress that can be replaced. So there's still pressure that comes with this job. I love my team so much.

Starting point is 00:30:00 I love the technicians, I love my first part. I love all the people I work with, my production team, my manager, I love them so much. I have the impression that if I'm not good at a party and we don't go back to that, then it's my fault. And then they may have to find another contract. I think about that every time, so it gives me a lot of pressure at the same time, because it's a pressure of love. Yes. And there aren't many of you, Maurice, who have done the stage with a child as young as you. Catherine Levers did it. Yes, and we did it with four of us. We had our children, we had done a pack of enlargement, at the same time, we were saying that this year we were pregnant.

Starting point is 00:30:41 And then she was pregnant two months later, I was like, hey, you had to wait for me. And I got pregnant three months later. The children are like two months apart. And you're close? Yes, of course. It's really difficult because we don't have any chance to be together. Never. We don't see each other much.

Starting point is 00:31:04 Except that we try to talk to each other often. I get along really well with her. And it's still, I'm happy that there is another person who has made, not this mistake, but this challenge of being pregnant, of having a baby, and then you like having children at a young age. And it's worse than me, she still has twins. But having two children is a challenge. There aren't many models of women who are humorous and who are mothers. A mother of young children.

Starting point is 00:31:35 That's a question. Are you tired at times? Yes. But like any mother, I think I'm tired like any mother. It's just that there is also a guilt that comes. I think everyone has when they have children. It's just that I'm like, OK, I went to the show, I had time to see it, I think 45 minutes. So during those 45 minutes, it has to be there, and I'm reading books,

Starting point is 00:32:06 and we're doing an activity. It's a pressure that I put on myself, that I shouldn't put on myself all the time, but I feel like it's easier now, now that she's three years old, but I'm getting back into it with another child, so I don't know. I'm not stressed about it.

Starting point is 00:32:21 I'm not stressed about it. I'm not stressed about it. I'm putting myself back in with another child, so I don't know. Yes, because one second is something else. Yes, that's right. It depends on the children we have. So here's the yellow level, you're going to give me four please. Yes, because each child is so different. Yes, that's right. It's stressful. It's flat that we can't choose them. Hey, I chose them. I would have chosen her.

Starting point is 00:32:46 Would you have chosen that little Marguerite? Yes, but it surprised me. First, she came out, she didn't have blonde hair. I was like, well, let's see. Then I remembered that I was dyeing myself. She had brown hair and she really looks like my husband. She's really beautiful and she's so easy. Even if she's so easy.

Starting point is 00:33:05 Even if she's easy, she moves, she speaks, she dances, she's really intense, she screams. She's really the child I wanted because she's not shy, even if she's exuberant. She's lively. Yes, that's it. Really. She's not flat. It doesn't bother you? No, not it is. My life with a TDAH is...

Starting point is 00:33:26 What character trait did you inherit from your father? What type of lover are you? Is it easy for you to ask for forgiveness? Ask for forgiveness... Do you know how to say excuse? Yes. What should I take? What is my life with the TDAH. Did you see my show? No, not yet. But it's really, I think it's the best, it's my CV.

Starting point is 00:34:16 It's like, it seems like there are so many people who say, I don't catch it, I don't understand it. And since I was young, everyone was telling me, I don't catch you at all. And it's a pain in the ass because you don't need to catch me. We just have fun and it's okay. But with this show, I think it shows why I do this and that, why I'm like that. It seems like you see that and then you understand

Starting point is 00:34:40 and then we can start from a good start. I understand. So this show helped me a lot, and I talk a lot about my TDAH. And everyone recognizes each other, because we all have traits. You know, it's full of symptoms, a TDAH. There are so many people who are dreamers

Starting point is 00:34:54 who are not necessarily, but who are in the moon. Disorganized people, people who can also start from an idea and be super passionate. For me, the TDAH is both good things and bad things. Even that it has always helped me in my life. And since I'm a mom, that's where I find it most difficult. Let's say I see that it's not always pink, let's say.

Starting point is 00:35:18 But it's really great because my parents have always made me believe that it was my strength. At what point in your life did you know you had a TDAH? I was 9 years old. I was really late for school, I was really, really in the moon. I wasn't in the group, I was always a little behind, in my head. I have dyslexia, so it's my dyslexia that led to my TDAH. I also have a language problem. I'm looking for my words, I have a le with my vocabulary. I'm looking for words. I have a lexical singing problem.

Starting point is 00:35:49 I do some echo-lallying too. I repeat the sounds and phrases I hear. If I try not to do it in an interview, it would be embarrassing. Let's say I hear noises. I'll do... It's okay. It can be just funny. But at home, king, king. It's not a big deal. It can be just funny. But you do that at home? Oh yes, constantly. But it's still... You know, I told Manu Hoopsy,

Starting point is 00:36:10 how do I stop this? And he's like, well, you can't. And it's not a big deal, you're funny. It's just funny. I was like, yeah, it's true. In fact, I really have the perfect job to be like that.

Starting point is 00:36:22 To allow you to be who to help whoever you are completely. Yes, 100%. I'm with the right people around me. My parents really found the right orthopedagogues to help me. So my life with the TDAH is always surprising. I never know what passion will prick me one morning. I never know how I'm going to get out of... Sometimes, I don't even know where we're going on a trip.

Starting point is 00:36:51 And then two weeks later, I have a whole trip organized. And then I know everything about the Middle Ages of this country, and I learn the language. It's like... It's when you love, when you want, it unfolds, you have, your passion is unleashed. Yes, that's right. The problem is that when I don't like it, I really don't like it. You need to have an interest.

Starting point is 00:37:12 Yes, and you know, like me doing my laundry, doing the dishes, I have to take some ritalin because I'm like, oh no, I'll never be able to do that, it's too difficult, j'suis en train de le faire. Pis là, tsé, c'est vraiment, tsé, comme toutes les affaires administratives, administratifs, les, les papiers, toutes ces affaires-là, tsé, genre, une chance que j'ai une gérante, pis un comptable, parce que j'pense que j'serais arrêtée, sinon là, tsé, clairement, j'payerais pas ce qu'il faut, là, à la société, là, les taxes, les impôts, les affaires-là. Oui. Ouais. Mais on a, on a, tsé, moi ici, une communauté virtuelle qui s'appelle Le Marie-Club, c'est une plateforme, I'm not going to tell you where to go with this stuff. Yeah. You know, I have a virtual community here called the Marie Club. It's a platform.

Starting point is 00:37:49 And we received Annick Vincent, who is really like a summit. She wrote the book, My brain needs glasses. My brain still needs glasses. And she said that someone with TDAH is a popcorn brain. It's that the ideas burst out, and you don't know what idea, in everything that's exploding, is the one that you're going to have an interest in. Yes, that's exactly it. And I love that brain. I say my brain, Wikipedia, is that let's say I go to a Wikipedia page,

Starting point is 00:38:19 there's a blue button to go to another subject, there I press the button, and it's going to be the planet Earth, there I press the planet, and it's going to be the planet Earth. I'm going to be on the planet. It's going to take me to Mars. Mars is a month. What's going on during the month of Mars? Oh yes, Champol was born in the month of Mars. I'm going to look for it on Champol.

Starting point is 00:38:34 It's always like that. It never stops. It's tiring, but it's that there's not a day that I find flat. Every day, I'm excited about something. Even in the evening, I have the trouble of sleeping day, I'm excited about something. Even at night, I have trouble sleeping, because I can't believe that tomorrow I might be doing embroidery. I'm like, I really need to calm down. Sometimes I tell myself, I need to calm down.

Starting point is 00:38:59 Is it easy to live with your ADHD? I think so, but my brother would say no. I'm like, hey, that's exciting, but he finds it still difficult, you know, the open doors. I have a lot of accidents. I left the door of the house open for two days. I went on tour, he was in Gaspésie, and the door of the house was just wide open. Okay, okay, not just barricaded. No, not just barricaded, open.

Starting point is 00:39:24 So the neighbor said, hey, it's normal that the just wide open. Okay, not just barricaded. No, not just barricaded, open. So the neighbor said, it's normal for the door to be open. He texted my husband, and he called me and said, did you leave the door open? I was like, it's not my fault, it's my sister who told me I had closed it.

Starting point is 00:39:40 He said, no, you take responsibility, you left the door open for two days. There were a lot of flies when I came back. Nobody stole anything. I imagine he said, someone saw the door was open. No, it was really me who left it open. It's small things that can really be less fun for others. In fact, it brings a lot of fun. There's always something going on, but a lot of stress.

Starting point is 00:40:06 You're like, OK, did you leave the oven open? At the same time, it also feeds your creativity. Well, but... And there's always something happening. Because you play, you write, I mean, you do things on the artistic level. Well, for me, it's mostly writing that I like. It's mostly writing. And it's really, you know, like we were talking about passion and things,

Starting point is 00:40:26 but if I start writing, I can spend five hours, six hours, and I don't realize that time has passed. And then I'm going to write, I'm going to write. And finally, on the five pages, I'm going to have one page and a half good, but it's really a huge motivator also to spend my days. You know, every activity, I tell myself, oh tell myself, maybe I'll write about it later. As soon as it happens, I remember being left by a guy and saying, it's going to be really good, in a sketch.

Starting point is 00:40:52 Then I try to think about everything he says, and I'm like, I really need to record how he leaves me, because it's going to be funny. Do you transform that right away? Yes, even while it happens, even when it's sad. What advice would you give to parents who listen to us, who have a child with ADHD? Oh my God, to take it as a strength and stimulate the brain, to stimulate. There are many ways that exist other than medication.

Starting point is 00:41:18 Medication, it really saved my life. For self-confidence, to be good at school, I went from the worst in class to one of the best. I realized, OK, it's really a problem. It was brainwashes. It was concentration. It was concentration. It's not me who's stupid. It really did me good for confidence.

Starting point is 00:41:38 That must have changed a lot, to feel intelligent. Really, really. That's the big difference. Often, in med school, children will say, I didn't know I was intelligent. Some people don't need it, but in your case, it answered the need you had.

Starting point is 00:41:52 Yes, really. Even if I don't take it, sometimes I feel that something was triggered when I was young. And then, it's okay, trust in me, I know I'm intelligent, I know there are of things that interest me, and it's okay. I think that medication is for those people who see that there is an advancement in school that cannot be done without it. But my parents made me do sports, sleep for 9 hours a day. Sleeping for a TDAH child is so important.

Starting point is 00:42:26 And finding an exercise that the child likes. I have to admit that my parents, even if they tried everything, the ski-surfing wasn't their best idea. But just to go for a walk, to put an emission in the ears, it really helps me. I try to walk 10,000 steps a day. I try to do at least 3 to 4 kilometers a day. It says that a half hour of walking or a half hour of walking is equivalent to an hour of medication.

Starting point is 00:42:52 You have to do a lot of half hours. There are also a lot of games. During my shoots, I had a producer who was really aware of all this. I was the only one who was shooting on the lookout for all of this. I was the only one shooting. And I really had to choose on. So there was a game we played, Hante.

Starting point is 00:43:11 And it was a game of speed, and visual, and memory. And it just makes your brain go crazy. And then I can, for 20, 30 minutes, be super alert and really in. There are lots of little things like that you can find with your child. But I think it's really about finding things. And what works today may not work tomorrow, but finding passions. But it's really things that stimulate your child

Starting point is 00:43:37 and that are not screens. It's the worst drug for people with ADHD. It's like coke. Honestly, I spend a lot of time scrolling on my cell phone, and I think you have, like everyone else, a real dependence aspect, because the brain, in the end, of the TDAH, it lacks... It's like...

Starting point is 00:43:55 What makes you excited? What makes you happy? Serotonin? No. The other. Wait, I'm not going to know. I know it. I'm exposed to the knowledge. But it's something that, in the end, I'm not going to know it. I know it. I'm not going to know it. But you know, it's something that I miss and that is produced with drugs, but it's something that you can produce by yourself, but when you

Starting point is 00:44:14 see your cell phone, when you see the images, and there are things that happen, it brings a lot of stimulation to the brain, and then everything is flat. So you really have to try to... Even the games, all those things. I still remember playing SimCity, and at night I dreamed of that. I saw all the little cars, and it prevented me from sleeping.

Starting point is 00:44:35 The stimulation lasted a long time. Yes, it's really a stimulation that's not conducive to developing creativity or social skills. It's true for all children, but I think for TDAH children, it's the worst thing to do. That's even worse. It's good to mention it. Sometimes we forget it. It's true because even when we're not TDAH, I often do it on Instagram in the morning, and I watch the Reel.

Starting point is 00:45:00 I watch it, I watch it, I watch it. The other day, we had a neuroscientist who came for something else, who said, but it's because it's crazy, the images to be treated for the brain. You know, they used to say when we wanted to do tests, and see how we were treating crazy people, we locked them in a room. It's a method of torture. Torture me with some wheels, I would be so happy.

Starting point is 00:45:22 But you know, in the sense that they you'd be showing images all the time, and the person wasn't able to manage the flow of images? Well, it's true. It's true, it's torture, but it's really fun. Yes, that's torture. Let's say that the images are more positive. I'm going to ask you the question, what type of lover are you? Well, it depends on the chum, I guess. But what are you currently doing in your life? I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:45:51 Because I find myself really good sometimes, and sometimes I find myself really bad. I have to talk to myself sometimes. I have to tell myself, OK, you didn't ask a question. He would probably say, he's really nice, he's really nice. But I really try to spend time with him and not talk about my job, not talk about flat things.

Starting point is 00:46:14 Sometimes we would talk about the schedule. But we didn't talk about the day, and now I want to talk about the schedule. But I imagine everyone is the same. Yes, but you have a daily life to manage. Yes, but I think that also our relationship is really very, I don't know if it's dependence, but we really like to be together. When we're not together, we chat more. So, you know, everything that is Costco, we will go together.

Starting point is 00:46:34 IKEA, we can make appointments there, and we have fun. You know, every time I spend time with him, I tell myself, we have so much fun that it's going to be so much fun that we're going to be old. You know, like I want to stay with him. Tu sais, comme je veux rester avec lui. Tu sais, même si on se calme, même si ça va pas bien, je me dis, ça va être une passe parce que c'est tellement facile quand on est juste nous deux pis qu'on est juste du fun. À chaque fois, je suis comme, ah oui, c'est vrai, c'est pour ça qu'on est ensemble.

Starting point is 00:46:56 À chaque fois qu'on passe du temps ensemble, je suis comme, ah oui, oui, c'est vrai, il est drôle. Mais c'est bon, mais c'est ça, c'est parce que tu dépenses le moment, tu sais, parce que des fois, c'est factuel sa vie. C'est une affaire qui arrive. It's good, but it's because you spend the whole moment, because sometimes it's factual, it's a matter that happens, but is the background, the story, always there? Yes, all the time. My boyfriend, I find him so beautiful. You look too much at me, you stop. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. And no, I think I put it forward. Like all my friends know my chum.

Starting point is 00:47:28 How did you meet her? In a bar. In a bar. Quite simply. Did you do the first steps? Yes. I don't know anymore. In fact, she's one of our friends who was there.

Starting point is 00:47:39 And she knew him. She worked with him in a restaurant. And she told me, Oh my God, I see you together. And I was like, Oh yeah, okay. What's your phone number? And then he didn't give me the right number for three times. He didn't give me his number as it should be for three times.

Starting point is 00:47:54 And then I called him in front of him to do something to my friends. I put the number, I was like, it's not the right number. It's not the right number. And I thought it was funny. I was like, he's not interested and it's just funny. But it's really that he was not able to give it to me because I think he had drunk and also had changed his phone number. In any case, all that has to be said. It's not voluntary. No, I don't think so.

Starting point is 00:48:11 I don't think so. No, no, no, because he said, I can't believe it's the coolest girl in Quebec. I find it funny that he said that. I still laugh at him. I'm like, hey, you're in a relationship with the coolest girl in Quebec. You have to remember that. Don't forget that! It was a long time from the moment you finally talked to her

Starting point is 00:48:28 with a good phone number. It took a month before we had our first date. My best friend is the most important person for me. It was really long before I thought, I'm going to let someone get into this dynamic. I was like, no, we could have done our parties. I had been in a relationship for almost four years with another guy before, and it had been like seven or eight months.

Starting point is 00:48:54 I had had another date and all that. I was like, I was telling myself, the next person who's going to enter my life, it's going to be the right person, I feel it. But I wasn't ready for that yet. So it took a month. After that, we went out. It looked like I was in a relationship and I wasn't ready yet. It took a long time before I believed it.

Starting point is 00:49:13 But when I started believing it, I was like, OK, there's nothing that can change that. It's him and it's no one else. If we're not together, it's who's dead. Does it put pressure on your shoulders when you say that? Oh no, not at all. He thinks the same thing as I do. I think that our parents also have really beautiful love stories. My parents have been married since they were 19 years old. They are in love, they do everything together.

Starting point is 00:49:37 In fact, my father does all the passions of my mother. Your father follows your mother. All the time, he's always followed my mother. And it's funny, it's a beautiful dynamic. He's very social. It's really funny, my father, my mother is very social, but at the limit of her do-well-ness.

Starting point is 00:49:56 She was a university teacher, she went to university, I think she was 16. It's a pain, my mother. You can't win against her against any game of knowledge. It's all tiring. My dad is the guy in charge. It's like the best couple. His parents are the same thing.

Starting point is 00:50:16 It's a really strong couple. His dad passed away a few years ago. It was a really strong couple, very in love, who gave each other lots of kisses and hugs. We really had love stories that were so simple. And sweet. You had beautiful models of simplicity in the couple. Yes, that's right.

Starting point is 00:50:34 And I've always heard people say that it's harder for them to be in a relationship. And to have a good relationship. It was my fear when I was young, because I saw love stories from my grandparents and my parents. And to have a good relationship. It was my fear when I was young, because I saw the love stories of my grandparents and my parents. I was like, it's not true that I can't live that. It's not true that I don't laugh at that. I don't want to have...

Starting point is 00:50:56 I don't see divorce as the worst thing in the world, but I want to work on myself enough to make it viable, to be with myself, and to make it fun. So I think I live this beautiful relationship, and I found the right person. Even if we have two big characters, we are two very, very characterful people, and we see red when we see red,

Starting point is 00:51:18 but that's what makes it fun too, it's never flat. But when, for example, they see red, do-ce que tu sais comment le calmer aussi, j'imagine? T'alimentes pas ça. Ouais mais là, faudrait que ça soit et rose. On va tomber dans, ah, ok, je comprends, tu sais comment le calmer, tu sais niveau rose. Ok, on va en parler. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Starting point is 00:51:38 T'as tes outils. T'as tes outils que tu sais que ça va marcher. On va passer au niveau rouge, ma chère. Oh boy! Oui! Hey, j'ai chaud, j'espère que je ne suis pas rouge. Non, tu n'es pas rouge, as-tu ça? Non, non, non, non, non, non, non, non, non, non, non, will work. We'll move on to the red level, dear. Oh boy! Yes! Hey, I'm hot, I hope I'm not red. No, you're not red.

Starting point is 00:51:49 Do you have a red order? Please give me three of them. Three? Yes. We only chose one of the red level. Perfect. Ah, well, you see, we're talking about your chum. What deep needs does your husband meet?

Starting point is 00:52:05 Okay. Do you feel like you've already been underestimated? Okay. At what point in your life would you have wanted time to stop? Hmm. That's a great question. But I choose. You want me to choose? Yeah, yeah. Do you already feel like you've been underestimated?

Starting point is 00:52:34 I think I do, but I know it just because others have told me that I've been underestimated. They've told me that they didn't love me before and now they love me, that they didn't know me well, that they were misjudged. It happens to me all the time. All the time, all the time. Even people I work with, who were like, I didn't work with you, it's the opposite of what I imagined. So, I know that just because people told me. But never did I say, I'm underestimated. I'm much higher than people think. Never do I think that think that. Sometimes underestimated can also be the look of others.

Starting point is 00:53:08 You know, like, let's see, how they perceive me. Well, it's true that I, doing this on Témodice, and people have seen me in the natural, there are so many people who say, hey, you're finally thin. And I was like, let's see, that's what I did on TV to look like I wasn't thin. You know, like... Well, yes, that's it. It can be a question. But yes, I was like, OK, I think that's it.

Starting point is 00:53:29 It's hard to say or I don't know, but I think that coming out of here really helped me to show that it wasn't just a girl who was screaming and who was excited, who had depth and that I really like spending time with others. I really like people, and I'm really empathetic. I thought it was clear, you can't do humor without a little empathy too. You're not responsible for how others perceive you. If you're real, for example, on TV, you have the impression that they will perceive you as you are. So that's it, you didn't put your finger TV, but you have the impression that they will perceive you as you are. So, that's it, you didn't put your finger on what makes people have a perception that is not good.

Starting point is 00:54:11 No, but you know, that's my physique. I'm a little blonde, and you know, I like that, having jewels, makeup, false eyelashes. You know, I like that, being that. Often, even the high voice, people associate it with a lack of intelligence or lack of trust. It can also be seen as not being deep, not having depth, things like that. So, sometimes I tell myself, am I the one who did something wrong? Did I introduce myself wrong? And then I tell myself, I was 21 years old. You don't know how to present yourself at 21. I was just like, here's my humor,

Starting point is 00:54:53 a bit absurd, a bit crunchy. That's who I am and I can't change. And that's it. Maybe it was too violent for some people, but at the same time, ten years later, it worked. In the end, it worked, it took a little more... it worked right away, but from the general public, it works because people were like, OK, she's a nanny, basically. OK, when she did that, it was jokes or when she said that, even, you know, there was like a little... a key that was... But learning to know you,

Starting point is 00:55:23 basically. Yes, that's it. It's the time that makes you But learning to know yourself, basically. Yes, that's it. It's time that makes you know yourself differently. We can't get to know each other quickly either. Well, there are some that... There are some that you see, you know... You know, I had watched Megan Brouillard, and I'm like, you know, it's so clear, it's so clear.

Starting point is 00:55:41 You know, we immediately have the reference of someone we know. I don't know, it's like if it's a preconceived idea that I have to erase a little from people's minds sometimes, to just give them a little more access. Sometimes I have a lot of misery. I just have a taste of gnawing. I don't want to give everything away right away. I want it to be a slowly falling down. Oh, I understand. But I find it nice that people with whom you work say that. I didn't think you were that person.

Starting point is 00:56:20 There is something to give in this market, to go see it and tell you also that you appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, but stop it for example. You're funnier than I think. But the funnier thing I think is true, what were you thinking? Yes, it's nice to see that too, because it's still difficult to change people's opinions. Even if there's a perception of someone, it's true that it's hard to change people's opinion. Once you have a perception of someone, it's hard to break it. When you were approached to come out of here, did you think about it?

Starting point is 00:56:54 Did you think that people would see you as you are? Not me, but my manager, yes. She was like, you're so much fun day after day. We have so much fun with you. You're not a sad clown. You're a clown who has fun and wants to make people laugh. That's what people need to see. They need to see you for real.

Starting point is 00:57:13 In everything, in your madness. I remember the first time, I think it was two or three weeks that we signed together. She really had a preconception of me. That's really bad. Now we're great friends, but we went to Abitibi together, and on the plane, there was water that escaped on my seat, and I was just looking like I was peeing in my pants.

Starting point is 00:57:33 And then she was like, my God, I would be so embarrassed. I'm like, no, take pictures! And then I stood up and took a picture of myself to show that I was peeing in my pants. And she was like, you're completely crazy. You know, it's crazy to see that confidence. You don't care what people think. I don't care, but at the same time, it's just funny. It's just fun.

Starting point is 00:57:50 And my God, you're crazy. And that's what we have to see. That you have fun, and that you want to laugh, and that you love people. And it's for sure that I wanted to show it because I was just like... In fact, I want people to know me for real. I don't want them to have a depression. I don't want them to have a preconceived idea or something like that.

Starting point is 00:58:11 If people don't like me, well, at least I want them to not like me because they know me. Like, I don't like his personality for real, but if they don't know my personality, they can't not like me. I want people to not like me for the right reasons. No, I understand, but for that you need to know even more. We often come back to get out of here, but it's because all those I've received that have made me get out of here, it becomes very present in the rest of their lives somewhere. Especially in connection with the public, because to see you against adversity like that for days, it's sure that we put ourselves in your shoes and at at the same time, we know that there are no fake runaways,

Starting point is 00:58:48 you can just be real. No, we're really caught there. And I think there's also the fact that you're not wearing makeup, not wearing hair, not stylized, not... And it's really like if we were in our living room, you get attached to someone who gets up 100% real. I think if you get attached at the same time, I wouldn't do it every time because I love makeup. It was very difficult for a lot of people, especially for women.

Starting point is 00:59:21 It was even difficult to find women for the other season. Finding women who accept to show everything on TV is more difficult. Yes, yes. Would you do it now? Well, I would do it. First of all, the insects are already bothering me a lot. But for example, to show off in the natural way, that wouldn't bother me. No.

Starting point is 00:59:44 No. No. That would... When I'm not wearing makeup, sometimes... I like to wear makeup in the morning, okay? For me, it's like... It's my moment. Yes, I understand that. I like to put the brushes... Yes, 100%.

Starting point is 00:59:56 You know, everything... It's like painting in numbers. Exactly, but... And you know, the canvas changes. Hahaha! But that's the fun part! The canvas evolves, it takes new things, it takes... Sometimes, I always say, you know, before it took five minutes,

Starting point is 01:00:11 but it takes 20 minutes to put on makeup. 20 minutes, you're good! But it takes 45 minutes. That's when I go out. But let's say, put on the cream. Mom already put on the... Yes, is that fun, putting on the cream? I love that, I love that.

Starting point is 01:00:23 It looks like it's drinking its water. It looks like it's doing me good, you know? The little smells, the creams, everything. I understand all of that. The makeup, and... But I still have a lot of sense. So if I wake up in the morning, I don't put on makeup, I decide to go buy a bread, it's for sure that sometimes I'll say,

Starting point is 01:00:40 Oh, you look tired. Oh, I said that to people. I would never say that to, do you look tired? » « Ah, I said that to people, stop saying that! » « I never said that to anyone, you look tired. » « I've said that before and I was wearing make-up. I think I could have beaten someone. » « Damn, I have false eyelashes. » « Someone told me I look tired just because you didn't put on mascara.

Starting point is 01:00:57 Are you lying? Stop saying we look tired. » « We're not wearing make-up. » That's it. I've always wanted to be able to go out without makeup. But I like to put on makeup, so I won't stop myself from putting on makeup to say I'm going to go out without makeup. But except that an experience like that, I had already proposed another show, a show on TV where I would have been completely not wearing makeup and all that. And there's one of the bosses of this channel who said to me,

Starting point is 01:01:26 Oh yeah, you're going to show yourself without makeup. And there was almost a dent in his face. And I was, and then I wondered when I left in the car, I was like, I hope that even makeup that says, Hey, we don't want to, but for me, we also need images of people who are natural, but without forcing things. If you want to be shown as natural. And then, you know, in the jungle, like in Sorta-et-moi, I find that it would be almost not appropriate for someone...

Starting point is 01:01:55 I had hidden my mascara in my shampoo. You had hidden it! So you put mascara on? I put it on like twice, and then it was dripping,, it caught my eye, and it wasn't a good idea. I did it twice, and I regretted it. I felt like I was cheating on an exam. I thought you could have created the desire too. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:02:14 But what I realized is that beauty is a matter of trust. How do you feel? Because I never felt as beautiful as when I left here. I had the impression that everyone thought I was beautiful. People around me were telling me I was so beautiful. I didn't have a mirror, so I was like, OK, I'm really too chic right now. When I had a mirror, I was like, OK, no, I wasn't that beautiful. When I look at the pictures, I was like, OK, but I look so happy to be there,

Starting point is 01:02:45 and I look so happy that I find myself beautiful looking at these pictures, finally. But really, over there, it's the first time I said to myself, I'm beautiful, I'm really beautiful. I'm super beautiful. People... The look in the other's eyes was so much nicer

Starting point is 01:03:03 than the look I have in my me, normally, in a mirror. It did me good. I wish it to everyone. So it did you good. But it's just people who learn to know you and find you so extraordinary. And to accept it because sometimes someone will say, you're beautiful, but you know, frankly. Well, it's because people tell me, you're beautiful. People tell me after my shows, you're beautiful, you're even more beautiful than on TV. I don't get it. You're beautiful. And I'm like, yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:03:35 But I put on make-up for two hours in a row. I feel like cheating again. Yes, that's it. You'd like to be completely undressed and say, is that what you think it is? It's a bit like that. It's something they wouldn't say, you know. But at the same time, I love this two hours where I put on makeup. I tell myself it's part of the show.

Starting point is 01:03:50 But beauty too, in what they see, they probably just saw you on stage. They just saw who you are as a person, you know. And they see you. Then I'll say, I think that this beauty is everything you are. It's your physical beauty, but your inner beauty, the charisma, a lot of things, beauty. Well, that's it. It's a whole bunch of things. Well, that's what I felt when I was a kid, in fact.

Starting point is 01:04:11 I told myself, OK, I'm not just beautiful when I'm wearing makeup, and not just beautiful when I pay attention to what I say, what I think or when I write my stuff. It's really, they found me so funny. It's crazy. The gang, it seemed like I was fed up just because they protected me, because the others wanted me to stay because I was doing them good. I was like, okay, that's really fun. If there were zombies invading the Earth, I would be the first to die,

Starting point is 01:04:41 except if there are people who want to laugh again and have fun. They would keep you. They would keep me. I would be like, okay, we're going to and have fun. They would keep me. They would keep me. They would be like, OK, we're going to eat it last. You would be protected. I would be protected by the people who were out of here. Like in the beginning, you talked about your pig. Protected.

Starting point is 01:04:56 Exactly. It's you who imposes yourself. We want you. You had a necessity. I hope. It's the only way I can watch. When you look in the mirror, what do you see? I find myself so beautiful.

Starting point is 01:05:12 It depends if I'm in my week or not. Sometimes I didn't feel good today. I wasn't that funny. Sometimes I'm't know. Sometimes I'm less confident, and then I look at myself in the mirror and I'm like, well, you see, I can't believe it's me. And then I get a little bit of a pun when I see myself in the mirror. Because I wasn't a very pretty child.

Starting point is 01:05:38 And even as an adolescent, I've never been considered a beautiful girl. So sometimes, to see me... Okay, it's crazy. Sometimes I tell myself, I'd like to talk to an 8-year-old child and do like... Check that! Check what we've become! Wow! We tripple together. I find that crazy! And I don't find myself as beautiful as that. I'm not a beauty. But you're good. When you look at your image,

Starting point is 01:06:09 you also have the impression that this image represents what you're in. Yes! It's a whole. Yes. And it's sure that I don't like that when the mirror goes all the way. But like that here, I'm still satisfied. And I would like to say to myself,

Starting point is 01:06:22 at eight years old, you'll see. You'll be so happy. What's the difference between you and the 8-year-old girl? My God. Trust, too. The fun of putting on clothes that we love and things like that. It's not my parents' fault, but I didn't have the right to put heels on when I was at the port. Now I have the right and I have fun doing it and it seems like it's going better with what I am.

Starting point is 01:06:57 I think it's just having fun with what we are. No matter what we are, even if we don't go into beauty standards, I think just finding ourselves is fun, to take care of ourselves, no matter if it's cream or anything. But it's true that taking care of yourself, it also helps to be good with the image we have. With the image we project, with the image that we see too when we look in the mirror.

Starting point is 01:07:23 Because you know what we see when we look in the mirror? Yes, I'm older, obviously. We see the time that passes on my face. And I hate that. And there are days when I'm proud. I tell myself, OK, every laugh, there's a story, and I want to live it. And it could be that three days later, I have this story, I would like to erase it.

Starting point is 01:07:46 Good action! But you know, it's that, yes, because it's possible. You know, there weren't these questions, for example, 50, 60 years ago. Now they are there, so these questions are completely legitimate. But there is still a, me, there is still a, compared to other women, what image, I'm really in, what I do. So now I'm trying to accept all of this. I know that one morning I'll be there, accepting it.

Starting point is 01:08:12 But now, I'm a bit like you, I'm in a phase where I feel good. So when I look at myself, I'm much more gentle with myself than at certain moments in my life where I look at myself and I'm like, oh, it's still this face. Sometimes I say I'd like to do that.

Starting point is 01:08:30 But it's because we really need to talk. We need to... Yes. That's what they told me, especially at Sortément d'ici. They told me, you're so rough with yourself. I was like, no, no, but look at that, hey, let's talk a little bit. You know, I find myself disgusting.

Starting point is 01:08:44 And you're like, but that's what you say every day, that you find yourself disgusting and ugly, and not intelligent, that's what you end up thinking, and I was like, ah, yeah, huh. You know, it gets into it. It's like the real, like the things, it makes you crazy. It makes you crazy to do that. But the inner resource is important, and that's why I think, you know, you have to be well surrounded.

Starting point is 01:09:01 It's a bit like psychopop, we can hear each other saying that, except that it's true. But it's the same, you know, but you know, psychopop, but it's true. It's the same, but psychopop isn't all false either. Because I think that speaking is part of how we perceive ourselves. Because it starts very straight in there. Nobody sees that. There are people who don't trust them, and they'll say, you've done this again, you've done that again, but it'll happen again. The inner discourse is not always visible,

Starting point is 01:09:33 but we know what our inner discourse is. When we're two, as you said, it's much more difficult to agree with what we see. Yes, exactly. And I think that even if, you know, an exterior aspect too, but even an aspect of when I was 8 years old, I remember, you know,

Starting point is 01:09:54 I had the impression of not achieving anything in life, you know. I wasn't good at school, I wasn't good at sports, there was nothing that I was good at. And once you find what you're good at, it's so good. Ah! Pis une fois que tu trouves dans quoi t'es bon, ça fait tellement du bien. Pis t'sais, de pas dénigrer aussi dans quoi on est bon. T'sais, je me souviens là, à un moment donné, j'étais quand même, je suis bonne en dessin. Mais t'sais, j'étais pas si bonne que ça, mettons, mais j'étais quand même fière de moi. Mais après ça, t'sais, mais là, c'est du dessin.

Starting point is 01:10:20 Ça sert pas à l'école. J'peux pas aller faire ça dans la vie. Ça rapporte pas. T'sais, c'est dénigrer un peu dans quoi t'es bon. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work.

Starting point is 01:10:34 I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't go to work. I can't go to school. I can't even think that it was an art before hell. I didn't think it was so much work. I was like, yes, take your microphone and talk. So it's really not minimizing what we've achieved.

Starting point is 01:10:55 And I, at eight, I didn't achieve anything. So I thought I was poor. So now to see what I've achieved with the capacities, with the TDRH, but also with everything I've experienced as a child, I'm still proud of everything I've accomplished so far. And if that's it, that's it, and it's good for me. Do you feel like everything you accomplish is going to go quickly in your life? Well, I hope so, because otherwise I would be at this level. It has to be quick, otherwise I really have a problem. For example, completely graduated, did you expect that success with this series? I think it wasn't long enough.

Starting point is 01:11:34 I'm used to it, it's been seven years since I sent it to be on TV. I'm happy with everything that happens, but every time I'm like, yes, yes, yes, but I've been saying this for two years. It's been seven years since you sent this project. Yes, it's been a really long time. We worked a long time before it got taken. And then it was a big success quickly. Yes, but still, I think it's a really middle-class success. And I understand it because it's still... You know, everyone knows in our environment, okay, they're filming in English, they've made their voice in French.

Starting point is 01:12:08 After that, the work they learn not to laugh during these scenes, which are hilarious, the texts are so well written. Does the general public after that see all this? I don't know. So for me, it's a real environment success. And it's a beautiful success. And I'm really proud of that. But did I... I knew it was going to be a hit because the techs are so good, the team is so fun, and even when the technicians, they laugh a lot. There are technicians who had decided not to be paid.

Starting point is 01:12:38 They were paid the same, but they said, we're going to come and take care of us as if we were just one person. Just because they wanted to do the project so much. They believed in the project at that point. On the web, there were two guys who came to do the sound, because they didn't want to. They were like, no, the sound is important anyway, even if it's in English.

Starting point is 01:12:57 You have to feel that. We have to be two. Pay us as if we were just one person. We know you don't have the budget. So they were paid as if they were just one person. So, you were in a school, everything was in English, and then you were going to translate it into post-production in French.

Starting point is 01:13:14 Yes. Could it have been just in English? Without the aspect of... If it wasn't for me, yes. Because everyone else speaks English, I'm the only one everyone else speaks English, I'm the only one who speaks badly in English, and it was incomprehensible, and I repeated

Starting point is 01:13:29 some things. I tried to... In fact, I was calculating the number of words, and I was trying to say the number of words that needed. OK, that doesn't mean we could understand. We don't understand anything. But otherwise, this series could have worked, since the texts were good, without the humor that it brings, the fact of... Yes. I think so, because the texts were good, without the humor that the fact of being...

Starting point is 01:13:46 Yes, I think so, because the texts are quite strong and it's really funny, but it really adds another level. What we could have done is shot it directly in French, but speak in double, yes, I know, but speak like that all along, but it really adds a touch, I think, of turning into English. Are you proud of this project? Yes, really. It's a beautiful project that was, you know,

Starting point is 01:14:13 that really resembles my humor. It's just that, you know, even if I love this project, and all of it, this is the last season, and I think it was the moment that it was the last, because I had, you know, I wanted to start something else, to rethink what makes me laugh, and what I want to show. It really looks like my 25-year-old project.

Starting point is 01:14:38 When I finished my high school, when I started school of humour, it was the project of my dreams. And I accomplished it. And now I'm like, I have to move on to the next step. What is the project of my dreams now, in the thirties, in the forties, in the fifties? Because I already succeeded in my dream project.

Starting point is 01:14:55 Check. Yeah, check. My dream project of 25 years, I did it. And you're proud of that. Yes, my years. Hey, it works. It works and we hear about it. But you won a prize with that?

Starting point is 01:15:03 Yes, I won a prize revelation from Cannes. But yes! But Cannes for the series, Cannes series. So it's all the series of the world. And I had won a prize revelation, but I wasn't there. Someone else went to get my prize because I never thought we were going to win. Okay, okay, you weren't there because of that. Well, no, it's because I was in maternity leave and I was like,

Starting point is 01:15:23 I'm taking maternity leave of four and a half months, five months, I'm really going to take it. So we left, we went to California in a van with the baby two and a half months. And then it was in the middle of the trip, I said no, no, no, no. And my husband was like, yes, yes, go, go, we can all go. Then we looked at what the temperature was in Cannes, and I was like, oh, it's just 20. No, no, it's not going. Did you realize if you knew?

Starting point is 01:15:47 No. Okay, so you have no regrets about that. No, no, no. It's for sure that I would have liked to win another Cannes one day. Hey, Cannes! Yes, it's funny, anyway. It's mythical. But it's weird.

Starting point is 01:15:58 It seems that when I... Someone else has to say it, it's not me, because no one believes me. No one believes you? Well no, no one believes me. Why do you win a humorist first? I have to tell someone else, not me, because nobody believes me. Nobody believes you? No, nobody believes me. Why would you win a humorist? It doesn't get into people's heads. I won a prize at Cannes. I wasn't there. It's a prize, a prize for your interpretation that you won?

Starting point is 01:16:15 It's a revelation. I didn't even listen to what they said. So I don't even know what my prize is. But I know it's a revelation at Cannes, the prize of Dior. But I didn't receive any makeup, I didn't receive anything from Dior. Oh, you didn't receive anything from Dior? But I got a prize. You got a trophy.

Starting point is 01:16:29 Yeah. He was talking. Oh, he's... But I love him. But he's... It's weird. It's been a little over 80. But is he exposed at your place?

Starting point is 01:16:38 No. Well, I have a room... I have a small office in my machine room, not your window, so it's there with the other prizes. But it's... me, my prizes, it's not that. It seems that exposing these prizes, I like them, I like to have them, but it's not beautiful. It's not aesthetic. Do you think it's beautiful? You're in your library, three, four gems. But in fact, it wouldn't be if I find it beautiful or not. It's what I feel when I look at it. What does it mean to me?

Starting point is 01:17:12 If I had that in my office, I wouldn't... I have the pocket now that you say that. No, but it's just to tell you... Because I'm not very into exposure either. When you come to my office, you have no idea what I'm doing in life. You think I read a lot, for example. I have books, I have books, I have books. But you see, there are things for me that are more emotional.

Starting point is 01:17:31 I tell myself, if I had them, it would distract me at certain times. If I was looking at that, I would fall back into my moon thinking about something. But the prices, I find that even when we win a prize, if I go to someone's house and I see prizes, I'm curious to know, OK, you won this, how? It looks like it reveals it to the person. Yes, but I think that's why I don't put it in my family room, because I'm like, it's not me who's important, it's everyone in the family. It's our story.

Starting point is 01:18:01 That's it. I have the impression that sometimes I tell myself, I'd like to have an office, that's not in my house, but somewhere else. You put them there, they'll expose your prices. Yes, houses. I have my show posters. That's my greatest pride. It's not necessarily the prices I have for my shows,

Starting point is 01:18:17 but my show posters. It's still... You know, I'm a child, I'm 24 years old on my photo, and I went on tour around Quebec with this show at 24 years old. It's crazy. And I have this photo. And it touches me every time I see it, much more than the prices. Even if I find it very important and I really enjoy it. But it's important because that's exactly what brings you pride.

Starting point is 01:18:40 And because it's visual. I recognize his photo. On the Gémo, it's someone's face. It's the side, the profile. I don't know what it is. It looks like it's not the same. But you're proud. Yes, I'm really proud. When you have an office, you'll put them there. Yes, yes. The level of eros is accompanied.

Starting point is 01:18:58 I'm picking one up. You're picking one up. Give me... We're going to pick four. Four, but you're going to answer one. I'm not going to make you talk. You wanted to talk about it, so... No, no, I didn't want to talk about it. Have you ever had a love penalty?

Starting point is 01:19:12 How do you evolve your sexual life over time? What do you do to seduce your chum? What place do you give to the preliminary? Bleh! What's in the preliminary? What do you do to seduce your ch? Wait, I don't know that. How do you evolve your sexuality over time? Do you already have a love penalty?

Starting point is 01:19:30 And what time do you agree to preliminaries? What's wrong with preliminaries? Well, it's before... It's before... Well, I would say... It looks like I'm dead, as if I was talking to my mother. What's wrong with preliminaries? It's before... It's before... Well, I would say...

Starting point is 01:19:46 Oh, I would say I'm sick as if I was talking to my mother. Oh, that's funny! You know, when you... Oh my God, yuck! You know, when you start to raise your desire. I could say, what do you do to raise your desire? Fans sometimes need preliminary, so... It doesn't wait for? Wait, but you...

Starting point is 01:20:05 Hey, it's crazy because I talk about it on stage constantly. And yes, that's why I was telling myself, we're going to go. But I'm so uncomfortable talking about it. You're rude. Oh, I'm rude, and on stage I don't have... Because I tell myself, if there are jokes, you're OK. But if people really know, all my life... Ah, it's so annoying.

Starting point is 01:20:22 Because you want us to watch the fifth one? Yeah, go ahead. Are you comfortable with nudity? Okay, wait. Are you able to answer one of these questions? Yes, yes, yes, some of them. These are the plates, the love letters, beer. We don't want to go there.

Starting point is 01:20:36 How do you evaluate your bisexual life in the process? It's interesting what you do to seduce your dog. It's because it's too easy. It's just breathing. Okay, oh yes, I understand. It's not as sexual after all. No, that's right. It's so easy. Which place did you give to the preliminaries? It makes me laugh so much that you explained what it was.

Starting point is 01:20:55 Well, well, I chose between the three. You want her to choose between the three? Yes. Well, how has your sexual life evolved over time? How has your sex life evolved over time? It means that I have to think about when I was 15. Oh no, I hadn't made love yet. But you still had a child. Did it change anything? Did you have a child?

Starting point is 01:21:20 Yes, you wanted to be sure that I had sex. You had a child. I had the right to have sex. So, my sexual life over time... I think that... I don't even know. Honestly, I really have the misery to remember once it's done. You know, I don't even remember guys I saw before. It's so weird, but once...

Starting point is 01:21:42 I don't even remember the penises of my exes. I don't remember anything. I just remember... You went into oblivion. Yes! You're really in the present moment. Hey, but... Sometimes I'd like to remember that! Like that, I don't make the same mistake twice, except for the same guy.

Starting point is 01:22:01 But I think it evolved in the sense that... I think I really see it as health. It's like something that's important for your mental health, your physical health. Before that, I saw it a little bit negatively, I think. Like I encouraged myself not to fall in love. I was like, OK, I shouldn't fall in love with guys. I don't know how to say it. You don't want to have active bisexuals. Yes, that's it.

Starting point is 01:22:36 Because I'm like, I have to go beyond what people think of me. People think so much that I'm sexual and open. And people even think that I'm sexual and open. And people thought I was a goofy guy. I'm really rude and flat, at the very least. And it seemed that at that time, when people thought, OK, I have to prove that I'm not that. Except that, you know,

Starting point is 01:23:00 at the end of two years, I don't know why I stopped. I'm like, my God, I should have been so stupid. I don't care. When I wasn't even famous yet. Once I started doing humor, I was like, I became so rude. I was a bitch. You were aware of what the others might think. Yes. There's that. And I didn't want to be the joke. Let's say a guy, I slept with Roussèvée in class,

Starting point is 01:23:26 and he talks about me while he plays at the bridge. It seems like I'm in love with men of 75 years old. It seems like I didn't want to be the joke between them, she has a bigger butt than the other. I don't have that. Yeah, it's a good blow, it's a bad blow. You didn't want to be a different party. I understand.

Starting point is 01:23:44 I was like, no, no, people, I want it to be like... Sexuality is so personal that I don't want it to... I talk about it on stage because what I live is personal, for example. And then I can take that and laugh about it and talk about it. And you can add some to the stage. There's real, there's fake. No, no, everything is real, for example. But I control it. I have control over this story, and it does me good.

Starting point is 01:24:07 It's really not having control over my own story. That's it, to do a hit in one night, and then the guy talks to everyone. And I have nothing weird. It looks like I have something really weird. No, but I understand very well. You don't want to share that in that way. No.

Starting point is 01:24:24 You want to, as you say want to preserve yourself, that it's for you, and not spread it to the right and left. Exactly. And there's also the fact that when you get older, it seems like you can't just fall in love with someone once. It seems to me that I had the trouble of connecting. I wasn't afraid to fall in love with someone if I didn't like how he was dressed, if I didn't like his personality, if I didn't like... if I didn't find him intelligent, if I didn't find him handsome. So I was like, hey, if there's all this, I'm falling in love with him.

Starting point is 01:24:54 So it was my charm. So I still had charms. I didn't have... But that's when I was in humor. Before that, I had more fun, but once I started to get in a good mood, it really got me into it. It really became very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I was under a lot of pressure. But it wasn't even for what the others thought of me. It was really me. I don't want to... But because in fact, there's something for you in there

Starting point is 01:25:32 that's more physical, more personal. Well, yes, I think. And also, you know, public work, that's the only thing that's left for me. It's my sexual life. It's really the only thing that's left for me. And now I have my family, but before that I didn't have a family. I was single, so it was really the only thing that was left for me.

Starting point is 01:25:48 It's my sexual life. I wanted to keep it to myself. With reason. But it was flat. So now that you're in a relationship, you're a mother, have things changed? Has your vision of the sexual life changed? Well, not really.

Starting point is 01:26:09 I think it's important for me. It's important that we have these moments, it's important that it's fun, and it's important that we live it together. I never cheated on my boyfriend. I don't know if he cheated on me, but I don't think so, because I look at him and I'm like, where is he? It's not true. No, it's true.

Starting point is 01:26:31 But it's important for me to let it go from our lives, even if we're going to be older, and we're going to find other ways to have fun, but it's important for me anyway. Is it easy to talk about it in your relationship? We don't talk about it, we do it. We don't really talk about it. You know, I'm like a little bit,

Starting point is 01:26:52 you know, the preliminaries, all that, I feel like I don't care. I'm like, OK, good, go, we have to... You know, it's super non-romantic, but it's like, you know, I feel like all these things are long. I'm like, yeah, I just want the 4 minutes, it's long. I think all these things are long. I just want the 4 minutes to last. And everyone is happy.

Starting point is 01:27:08 What's important in a couple's sexual life is that the expectations are at the same place. You know, after that, how each couple has their own sexual life. But it's how they live together. Exactly. It's also that I don't have a lot of attention. So if it's longer... If there's too much pre-lina. No if it's longer... If there are too many preliminaries. No, that's it. It becomes flat.

Starting point is 01:27:26 You'll go everywhere. Yes, I'm still... I feel like I'd do something else. I feel like it takes the most time. It's that it has to be as long as possible. So, no, no, no, look. No, no, it's short and I can do it three times in the same day. It bothers me less that once it lasts an hour and a half, I'm like, but it won't be fun.

Starting point is 01:27:55 It's going to rub, it won't be fun. And it's so funny because I talk about it so much in my show. I talk about it that... I make him go see your show. That I always shout at my other guy, that I make jokes about it. It's really go see your hair. I'm always showing off, I'm joking about it. It's really vulgar, but the number is really good. Honestly, I can't take it off. It's the number that people laugh the most about,

Starting point is 01:28:11 because it really echoes a lot of people. But it's really intense to talk about it in front of my parents. And finally, they laugh every time, but they're like, this number is definitely our genre. Because you're their daughter. Yeah, definitely. But do you feel good about doing that number? Well, when I like jokes, when I make people laugh,

Starting point is 01:28:34 it's enough. And yes, it makes me feel good. But it's not a number that makes me feel good, like my number on the TDAH, or the number on the fact that my sister is always better than me in everything. These numbers made me feel good. The number of, you know, as I call it, the number of, you know, it just makes me laugh.

Starting point is 01:28:52 It's just, it's good to say that it's not as fun as that, and so on. But I think I also hear a free woman talking. Well, yes. I'm really more free, it seems, than sometimes outside. And sometimes I look at myself, like when I look at my old numbers, sometimes I record myself to see if the joke worked or not, I look at myself and I'm like, hey man, hey what, this girl there? And I'm like, oh yeah, it's true,

Starting point is 01:29:16 it's me, I was able to say that, I was able to go there, and it seems like it's not a big deal. I look at it and I'm like, nice. Well, I understand because it's borders that you cross, and you cross them with your audience. Yeah. You know, sometimes, if it doesn't work, it's more embarrassing. What if I had a less hard subject? Ah, yeah. But you're good at talking about it.

Starting point is 01:29:40 You know, you have reactions to that number. Yes, yes, a lot. I also... I still put a picture of my breasts post-birth. I had breastfeeding, it was in the summer, I had... My breasts got bigger. It was the pandemic, so there were no nurses who came to our house before 6 or 7 days. My breasts inflated, I didn't understand how to remove milk.

Starting point is 01:30:02 My breasts got bigger. Did you have an important breastfeeding? Disgusting. Disgusting. I didn't understand how to remove milk, but they not normal. I kept that photo and I'm showing it on stage now. At first, I was like, it's too sexual to show a photo, but after that, I'm like, it's not a very sexual photo, it's a medical photo. Yes, that's it, you have a medical condition. Yes, but it's a little hidden, but I did it in a big format, I went to print it at the office in big format. I've never seen that, but I did it in a big way. I went to the office in a big way.

Starting point is 01:30:45 I've never seen that. I saw it on me, but I also had a phenomenal laryngitis. But I already find it extraordinary that you also unbend something like that. Because there's like a taboo behind all that body that changes. And women want to do things after pregnancy. Yes, exactly. Yes, exactly. And what annoys me about my humor is that everything I say is a bit true. And with that, it's like proof. It's not a joke when I say that it's gotten big, that's it.

Starting point is 01:31:15 And my father was like, I want to see the picture of a close friend because I don't believe it. And I was like, no, no, it's not a montage, I don't have to go up close, it's not a montage, it's true. I think that's what shows my humor the most, it's when there's proof. Yes, and you go far. You go as far as to show it. Yes, and I think it does a lot of good to a lot of women. It brings back a lot of memories to a lot of people. But it also gives, I find, you know, the stage, it serves something. You mobilize people who go there tonight.

Starting point is 01:31:45 You're on stage, you're going to talk with them, so you're going to make them think, react. You can't go halfway, otherwise it's flat. You can't go to the stage, and you're not sure you're going to the stage. I'd rather go 100% than go to... I never get shocked, because there's nothing bad. But you still have a lot of energy. Yes, but I think that after 15 minutes of the show,

Starting point is 01:32:09 those who were... the first 15 minutes are the same, after that they get on board, and finally they understood everything. But it takes, you know, people who are not used to precisely the streets beaten. That's right, they're used to going where they're going,. When you arrive, you don't know where you're going. You follow your trails. Exactly. Last question, Optoraiso.

Starting point is 01:32:30 What do you see of yourself when you look at Marguerite? Ah! My faces. She really makes my faces. You know, she... Ah! Ah! You know, she really took on the mimics. Sometimes, she talks like a movie.

Starting point is 01:32:50 I realize that sometimes, she talks like, « Menon! » And she goes, « Menon! » And she talks a little like, sometimes, it's not a child talking, it's like a movie about dinner. She really, you know, she limits herself a lot. So, you know, her personality

Starting point is 01:33:08 resembles me a lot, I would say. But physically, she doesn't resemble me. She has my eyes. Well, not my eyes, she has my eye color. It's really everything. But I think that's really it. And... It's really a little girl who is embarrassed

Starting point is 01:33:24 at the beginning, like a little... I'm not really embarrassed, but I feel the embarrassment, but it's stronger than me wanting to intervene. She's really the same. At first she's hiding behind me, and the person says, what is this toy? It's my toy! I play with this! And suddenly she becomes like, at 100% Margaret. I think that's what she reminds me of.

Starting point is 01:33:46 She loves to travel a lot. She talks about our travels all the time, even the travels we did a long time ago. You know, my husband and I went to Italy for our New Year's trip, and we didn't bring him. And she talks about it to us every day. You know, oh, that's like in Italy, huh? Oh, that's Italy. One day I'm going to Italy with you.

Starting point is 01:34:03 But not for my wedding, because I can get married. You know, everything she said is so hilarious. It's really funny. She's still very young. She's three years old. So she talks a lot. She talks a lot. It's often what people tell me. They tell me, well, it doesn't make sense that she's even three years old.

Starting point is 01:34:19 A year and a half ago, she said, I'm old. She talked a lot, even really small. I don't want to compare the children, but when I see her talking to others, I'm like, she's talking a lot. All that is bodybuilding, sport, that's less. I really put the child on speaking, and it's like that. I think that's what she's like a lot. She also likes shows.

Starting point is 01:34:46 Let's say I'm going to do a show and she comes to the sound test, she's going to want to use the microphone. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, she can't be there. She's already in the scene. Yeah, but I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want her to be there. I don't want her to be there.

Starting point is 01:35:02 I really don't want her to be in the public eye. I tell myself all the time, no, I want her to be too small. Yes, that's it. I don't want her to be in the eyes of the public. I tell myself all the time, no, I don't want her to follow her own path. She goes along with her dream job because she thinks, ah, I want to follow this, because that's what I've known. I don't want her to... I know it's not an easy job, I know it's difficult. Especially when your parents make that. The comparison is really... Present.

Starting point is 01:35:26 Yeah. But I don't think she's going to be humorous. I think she's going to be a cook. She doesn't like to cook, but I'd like her to do it. I was going to say, she's already cooking. What can we wish for? Well, I think to continue on this path and also have projects. I would like to see stability in my projects. My goal in life would be to do a new show at 4 years old and take a break every year.

Starting point is 01:36:00 A new show, and I really like to go on tour, to be on the roads, I like that, to meet people, I like that. And I think what we can wish for is that it fits with my family life. Yes, yes, your balance. Yes. Well, thank you Rosalie. Thank you, it was really fun. A magnificent meeting, really. For me too.

Starting point is 01:36:20 Thank you, it was a pleasure, I discovered you even more, that's it. Ah, well, there... I appreciate it. I would have liked to hear more about your fears. Maybe because I don't know, maybe with time I have less, but when you say that, I'm afraid of what? It's not that clear, why am I afraid? In fact, I'm not afraid of ghosts and I don't see it,

Starting point is 01:36:39 that's more it, I would like to be afraid of it, but I'm not. Well thank you. So maybe we'll have other opportunities to chat, I hope. And I say thank you to everyone for being on the podcast Open Your Game. And we'll see you next time. Bye bye everyone. This episode was presented by Karine Jonquin, the reference in the Care for the Skin in Quebec

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