Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - #95 Saskia Thuot | Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast, Open Your Game. You know that we have a new game that has just been released, which is now available in stores all over Quebec. Open Your Game is a special couple and also dating. Because I know a lot of people who are going to meet people, they go on an application, they are going to meet them, and I tell myself, but what are you telling them? And there are some who say, sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's more difficult,

Starting point is 00:00:26 and we said to ourselves, but why don't we make a game, among other things, where there would be questions to facilitate this kind of meeting? And in addition, Randolph completely embarked on, he is our partner, and there will even be dating parties with the game behind. You can find it in all the public,ugs, the game Randolph, where you can play. But it's in stores. And the couples, the difference is that in dating, among other things, there will not be the pink level. And in couples, there is a pink level. And I even want to say to couples, you can decide one night,

Starting point is 00:01:00 you only do green questions, yellow questions, red questions, pink questions. You are't have to play completely. Sometimes we do more for a pink level, sometimes we do more for a green level. So I'm telling you, I think you'll like it. It's really to promote communication in the couple or during the first meeting. We have comments. I always like to read them. Josiane talks about the episode we did with Vanessa Pilon. She says, a discussion that echoed so much,

Starting point is 00:01:35 whether it was for the perinatal mourning, which makes people so uncomfortable, or even to be told that the third one rises alone. It's so wrong, we're just more in control and we have have more knowledge. Thank you for these discussions that normalize different realities. Marie-Franze says, I'm always looking forward to Monday to see the surprise, the surprise guest, that is to say, I listen to some guests again that I have loved the most, up to five times,

Starting point is 00:02:01 for each, for some of them. I'm a fan of Marie-Claude's and her team's podcasts. It's like Chinese pâté. I love it and I can eat it for 5 days straight without any problem. And ketchup on top. It's Marie-Claude's laughter. Thank you. That, my laughter, it's something I think that... Every time I have a laugh, there are a lot of people who underline it.

Starting point is 00:02:23 So, so much the better if it does you good, but it's always natural laughter that comes from nowhere. But I think the episode with Marc Labrèche, it's the one that was the most striking for me compared to the comments. But it was nice to read that people had not laughed for a long time. Listening to this podcast, they laughed with good heart because we know how much it makes us laugh. Now, you know, the Marie-Club, which is a digital platform that is really dedicated to well-being, because we know that in life we always want to live better, to improve, and that's the goal, and it's also about getting people out of isolation. It's a bit like a TV show or Netflix where you put ateliers with experts.

Starting point is 00:03:09 But on top of that, you can exchange between yourselves. There's a newspaper Intib, there's a reading club. I'm accompanied by Vanessa Pilon, who's there for the parenting, Maude Guérin, Sophie Prigent, Guylaine Tremblay, who coanimes with me sometimes, who are also members of the reading club. And to give you an overview, I would like to present you an extract that took place with Dr. Michelle Mongeau, who is a specialist generalist in women's health.

Starting point is 00:03:35 She is with Guylaine Tremblay, who is the host of this workshop, and she talks about menopause. Let's watch an excerpt. The mourning of fertility, the mourning of youth... In other words, there is no hormone in the world that can fix that. Do you understand? We will all and all age, of course. And I sometimes see women who have unexpected expectations

Starting point is 00:03:55 regarding hormone therapy. As if they were going to become young again. Stay young all their lives. Do you understand? But no, hormones can't... they can allow you to age better, but aging is inevitable. They put too much hope in their hormone therapy. Exactly. I was a menopause when I was 52 years old. I'm a menopause until the end of my life.

Starting point is 00:04:24 Yes, post-menopause. When will it end? Yes, because women ask themselves when it will end, but it never ends. No, when you're menopause, you're for the rest of your life. But women often ask themselves when the symptoms will stop. So, it gives you an idea of what the Marie-Claude is. And if you want to subscribe, so if you decide to subscribe on an annual basis, we offer you a 10% discount. You go to lemarieclaude.com

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Starting point is 00:05:33 of other precision, only in clinics, and this until March 31, 2025. Obviously, I thank my team, Caroline Dionne for the coordination, David Bourgeois for the online presentation, Jonathan Frechette for the digital creation, Étienne Colleur for the capture. Today, she's a friend of mine. She's a girl I find joyful, smiling, rich. A girl who is true, who we always have the time just with her when we talk to her. A girl who does us good.

Starting point is 00:06:07 A girl you saw decorate and decorate for years, where she surprised other families or people, where she was serving or if she animated an show called Bien. So I'm talking about Décor Ta Vie, I'm talking about Bien TVA. Obviously, you recognize her, Saskia Tio. So, I leave the place to Saskia. And you know what? I regret not closing doors sooner in my life

Starting point is 00:06:35 on big pieces of my life that I'm starting to do. Putting people or situations aside, or places, or stories. To be able to... You can do it. Yes. Open Your Game is presented by Karine Jonquard, the skin care reference, available in nearly a thousand pharmacies in Quebec

Starting point is 00:07:01 and by the virtual community Marie-Clobe, available on Marie-Claude virtual community, available on MarieClaude.com. The table game Open Your Game is available everywhere in stores and on Randolph.ca. Today I'm welcoming a friend, a girl I find, who really makes me feel good in this great mood, this joy she brings, this joy that she carries. But also, it's a girl who has a lot of introspection. And last year, we did a campaign in lingerie, film together, not even trivial, very happy to receive it. Welcome Saskia Tuyot. Hello! And that always makes me laugh, remarkable, because you always say Saskia Tuyot.

Starting point is 00:07:41 Oh yes, I know! I'm not even going to call you Saskia. I'm going to try today. Call me sexy. It's true, for me you're Saskia Tuo. Yes, yes, but it's correct. It's very good and you say it correctly. So thank you. Because there are some who say... Oh my God, if you knew.

Starting point is 00:07:55 But what is the origin of this Tuo? Tuo is actually French, if I'm not mistaken. But it's all in the family on the side of my father who lives in Montérégie, so Saint-Jean-Hiberville. But the others, they say, tuyotte. Ah, ok. And we, my father is a little more... in any case, he didn't want us to say stuiyotte. So we say tuo, but I think it's the right way to say it because there is no e, or there is an affair of h to have it there.

Starting point is 00:08:22 But that's it. So that's it, it comes from that. And Saskia, well, it's the wife of the painter Remavor, but that's it. So that's where it comes from. And Saskia, well, it's the painter's wife Rembrandt, who was called Saskia. And my father liked Rembrandt a lot, and when my mother was pregnant, he threw this crazy idea, and there you go. I'm hooked on that. But Saskia, I think I've never heard that name before,

Starting point is 00:08:38 before I met you. I think it's wonderful. You know, I was the only one at school to call you Saskia. Well, yes, still. She calls you Saskia, it's great. That's a wonderful name. Thank you. Thank you, I love it a lot. I'm very proud of that. Now, you know, I'm calling myself Anne-Monique Saskia. In fact, these are my three first names.

Starting point is 00:08:53 But Saskia is my first name of all time. Why Anne-Monique? Anne, because she liked it. And I would have done a cool Anne. I think it works. Anne with me. And Monique was my grandmother. My grandmother who died very young, at 49 years old. And yes, Monique. But Monique died of what at 40 years old?

Starting point is 00:09:10 Oh my God, Monique. She had a lot of things, I think. My God, the heart. But I'm like... how would I say that? Oh my God, I can't... we're already starting with that. The family on my father's side, I'm less involved. So I would say heart problem, a mix of all kinds of things. But you don't have time to know her.

Starting point is 00:09:30 No, not at all. She was 49 years old. So I don't have any... Not at all. Like my maternal grandfather either. But I had a paternal grandfather, Louis, who decided to go to the grandfather, who was very, very close to me, who took care of me and my grandmother too. That's it. Hi. For grandparents. You're about to do your genealogy.

Starting point is 00:09:47 And then, yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But... Important, yes, but... How would I say that? I don't know. They're not that close to them, but they were there. In important moments. Does that count?

Starting point is 00:10:00 Yes. Yes. But it's crazy how you bring me to the family. I was raised early, young, in a very close family. And now we're all a little lost in sight. So it's special. I come from a family, I'm a single parent, my parents got divorced very early. I have two children, but I don't have a brother or a sister. Moi, j'ai un enfant unique. Mes parents ont séparé très tôt. Moi, j'ai mes deux enfants, tu sais, mais j'ai comme... J'ai pas de frères, j'ai pas de soeurs.

Starting point is 00:10:28 Mes cousins et cousines habitent partout à travers le monde, tu sais. Fait que c'est assez particulier. Donc, j'ai des grands souvenirs de tout le monde réuni ensemble. Mais c'est beaucoup plus tranquille, mettons, depuis nombreuses années. Depuis qu'on est des adultes, en fait. Comment t'as vécu ça, toi, être un enfant unique? C'est sûr que t'as pas connu autre chose, mais quand même, How did you live that, being a single child? Of course you didn't know anything else, but did it make you a child that was sometimes more quiet? Or on the contrary, that didn't go to friends anymore?

Starting point is 00:10:54 How does that fill your life? You said something earlier, you said joy of life. I think that's part of me. I'm a child, I'm still like that, and I still have a kid. But it's funny because my mother used to tell me, I have a funny memory and I apologize for feeling that. My mother used to tell me in the morning, Saskia, Saskia, you're too good-tempered.

Starting point is 00:11:17 I used to live it and I was like... But it's true that you have something... Yeah, but it's quite gone a little bit over time, I think, you know, with the constraints, with the years, with... I'm less jittery than I was, but yes, I have that in me. But listen, finally, when I come back to the question, it's hard to be interviewed when we interview in life, huh? It's a beautiful...

Starting point is 00:11:41 It's a beautiful exercise. So now I'm going to listen to the question to be a good guest. I think I was a good, unique child. I didn't miss it because I didn't know that. My mother was very young, she was 22 years old, and she had extraordinary friends who took care of me. I, my friends, I didn't have time for that. I went to a private school,

Starting point is 00:12:04 and if I went to a private school, it's because we had money, because we didn't have any money. I think there was some help from family members. And it was a world that was completely separate for me, because we didn't live with much. I never missed anything, but we didn't have much. And to get there, my mother rented a room in an apartment. We had a nice apartment, and she rented a room to be able to get there. I was so close. And so I went to this school, which was not a neighborhood school. I never knew this was a neighborhood school. That's why I remember when my kids, I was going to drive them back to school bus,

Starting point is 00:12:41 it was so extraordinary. This kind of core that forms. You know, at the bus stop this morning with your coffee. But me, it wasn't that. I took the bus from the city, in addition, when I was young. Imagine, now we wouldn't do that anymore. I was six years old and I went to a school. So I had girlfriends there, but they came from the suburbs of Quebec.

Starting point is 00:13:00 We were in the middle. I lived near, let's say, the Plains d'Abraham, and all that in that area. So, not on the rich side, on the poor side, let's say. Poor, my colleagues. Did you feel that in your life, this notion of rich and poor? Yes. Did you already feel it? Yes. Well, you're not in those words, but I knew very little. You saw the difference.

Starting point is 00:13:24 Yes, I saw the difference. You could see the difference. Yes, I could see the difference. My mother didn't have a car, and with hindsight, if we asked her the question now, it might be a matter of choice too. We were walking in a bus. It's because it looks sad when I say that, but there was no sadness. Otherwise, we had fun with not much, like now. It doesn't take me much to be happy in life. I don't need to...

Starting point is 00:13:47 I find it fun to be able to offer myself a coat hanger, and to enjoy, and to travel, and stuff like that. But it's not something that is essential for me. And when I was little, society said, yes, well yes, listen, I have memories of friends who went, let's say, to the holiday. He was going somewhere in the South, at Christmas they received, at that time it was...

Starting point is 00:14:10 not paddle boards, obviously, there was a sail. There was a sail. You had to hold it. Look how good I am. Ok, wait, but you were on the water with that. Yes. Ok, but twice on the snow because I was too close. Ok, wait, but it's... Ok, well, sometimes on the snow, because I was using it too much. Okay, wait, but it's... Okay, well, let's say they were receiving

Starting point is 00:14:26 Christmas presents for Christmas, as a gift, and I was like, ah, well, let's see, you know. And I have memories, and I already told you where I asked for a tutu at Chris's. Did you make a board to see? Yes, thank you. Okay, something simple, you even, it looks like I'm looking for something very complicated.

Starting point is 00:14:41 So yes, it's a simple part, but you know, for me, it's like, ah, it was very, very big, you know, where I went to see friends, let's say, at that time, you had just passed, you know, I was going to spend the weekend. And there were pools, there were... Listen, I had never known that in my life. You understand? For me, it was...

Starting point is 00:14:58 When I was little, I just wanted to go to people who had pools. I'm a fish, I'm a water sign, I'm good in the water, it makes me happy. That was it, for me, it didn't exist in my life. Yes, I felt the difference very early. And very early on, I had a great need for independence too, to be able to go and look for things that I couldn't get in my life.

Starting point is 00:15:23 But I missed nothing, you know? Yes, because it wasn't dramatic. No. That's it, you weren't like victims or... No. But you know, I'm a little older than you, but I remember that in my neighborhood, I had the impression that we were all middle-class.

Starting point is 00:15:40 You know, everyone lived well, but no one went to Walt Disney at Christmas. The year, I went one year to a a year and then I had a shock. I have to admit, I didn't want to go back. I didn't like the difference that was very clear, very clear, very clear. We go skiing, we go to Disney, we have the Walkman Sony. The clothes! Auto-reverse, the clothes,

Starting point is 00:16:07 yes, it's... And there you see that there is a difference. And it seems that I didn't like to be like at the edge of it and hear about it. To define oneself by money, by what I already had a little... I think that the human being has always interested me a lot more in his human value than the monetary value. Well, I confirm that I have always had a problem with that. And even now, even if I have managed my life well, and I am proud of it, because no one else has done it than me, I still have a problem with that.

Starting point is 00:16:40 And my children live a beautiful life, they go to a beautiful college, what do connais, le collège Trinity, ma fille. Pis là, il y a beaucoup de ça aussi, pis des fois, ils arrivent pis ils font comme Maman, t'aurais dû voir la maison. Pis là, ça me ramène à des... Pis là, moi je suis, mais quoi? Elle est pas belle notre maison! Pis moi, je suis très très fière de notre maison, even if it's not grandiose. I love it, I feel good about it. We can always compare ourselves to more.

Starting point is 00:17:11 Yes, that's for sure. But when you're little, and you see people around you, I would define myself differently, in the sense that I would say, well, it was to be good with what I had. And I remember that we arrived here in Montreal, because I lived in Quebec, I was 12 years old, and we arrived here in Montreal. And then it was a shock, because then I said, OK, in the Polar, we were elsewhere, we lived in the Myland, not very far from here.

Starting point is 00:17:40 And we had a small apartment, but it was super nice. But when we arrived, there was no curtain. There were sheets of glass walls, nailed. My mother had bought a bed base, but I didn't have the mattress yet, but it was coming. But you know, there was... but it wasn't... how can I say that? But there was music, we danced, there was joy, there was a little bit of madness too. Listen, she was 22 years old. Can you imagine? I have a precise memory of the 37th anniversary of my mother's death.

Starting point is 00:18:14 Precise, like it was yesterday. But you were already 15 years old. Well, actually, let's say I was 14 at that time. You know, I had a child, and I have I remember, we went to the Panos Garden. What did I tell you? You went to the Panos Garden? I loved that place. It doesn't exist?

Starting point is 00:18:33 I don't know, I liked the terrace. It was funny. The shrimps, the broccolis. So you went to eat there, you remember? Yes, I remember how I was dressed. It's crazy. That's the fun. But...

Starting point is 00:18:48 So that's it. I said, my God, the difference. Well, yes, what do you want? It's sure. It was inevitable. And especially when you go to a school where people are the majority very, very well in between, well, it's sure that you clash a little there. Yes, but that's it.

Starting point is 00:19:01 So you have to hang on to other things. Yes, yes. Are you ready to open your game? Yes. I was anxious in my car. I was like, okay, it's going to happen. Do you want to perform? No, not at all. Okay, so what are you anxious about?

Starting point is 00:19:16 No, I wasn't anxious. I was just not used to asking you questions. To ask you questions, that's it. And to have the time. That's what we have with you, that we never have. To take the time, to go after them. And's also what we have with you, that we never have. To take the time to go after them. And I know that I will... I'm like in a particular period of my life, it's like special, since the end of my show, Bien.

Starting point is 00:19:35 We'll talk about it again, surely. It's particular and I haven't delivered much since then. So that's for sure. But from the end of your show, be good, it will be two years, about two months in April. Yeah. Because we stopped at the same time. Yes, yes.

Starting point is 00:19:50 It's not because we wanted to feel my dear, I remember when we talked about that. I was still surprised. I'll tell you one thing, I was still surprised that Bien was removed from the antenna. Because it's a show, you know, for the TV, let's say, that wasn't that expensive to produce. Of course not. Because, well, in my case, they were also talking about money,

Starting point is 00:20:13 but I think it was a show that was listened to, that was relevant, that you really had a lot of fun to animate. It was always fun to go meet you, to be received by you in Quebec. So, is that something you hadn't seen coming? Well, at one point, I felt it, because we always finished our sixth year, and the remodeling of the shows always came, let's say after Christmas in February, March max. And then I was like, phew. And sometimes before Christmas, we knew.

Starting point is 00:20:48 So, we left Christmas, our producer, Isabelle, who I love so much, said, I have good news, we're back. You know, that moment when it's so euphoric and so wonderful. But you know, I lived that for 16 years with the Corte d'Aviv too. Imagine 16 years, we're back! You know, you're like, well, you know. So, yes, I didn't see it coming, but I felt it. But it was like a turning point in my life, you know, I had the fiftieth, a separation,

Starting point is 00:21:11 the crisis of a shitty menopause that happened in my life. All of that, it made like, boomalallaloo! Oh, excuse me. It resonated, you know. I just lived something. And then I did, huh, all that Marie. And then I said, okay, where are you? And then I'm in there.

Starting point is 00:21:28 It's going to be two years. Where are you? I'm still looking a little bit. But now I know I'm with you. I'm ready. But it's super interesting. Green questions are generic questions. Yes.

Starting point is 00:21:39 But you know that the game is still for you. This mixture of questions belongs to you. Yellow questions are more specific questions. yellow questions are more specific questions. The red questions are more personal questions. The red questions are questions of sensual or sexual order. I'm looking forward to that. Ha ha ha! We're going to have an hour.

Starting point is 00:22:00 And optoraiso, that's always my question, I think, that ends in softness. Okay. But Eros and company, I love that question. Do you want to finish with that? Oh, you want to finish with Eros? No. But anyway, I can't wait to talk about it because... Okay, one thing at a time.

Starting point is 00:22:21 Here, I'll let you read it. No, no, you can finish your idea. It's just that, since I was single, I separated from my children's father without doing... Listen, I realized that when I was 9. Then I was 44, so now I'm going to be 52, in any case. In short, the calculations are... Then I had a little bit of pleasure between the end with Pierre and my other lover who came later, as if we had been 48.

Starting point is 00:22:42 Then I talked about it, and I have like people are identifying with me a little bit. They know she's going to tell us funny anecdotes, but I have plenty to tell. Because I celebrated one or two, because I went out on Crescent. I had a lot of fun, we get along, not just there. And people imagine a lot of things. But I'll try to satisfy your curiosity.

Starting point is 00:23:02 You have your joker, so if you find it going too far, you drop your joker and we change you think it's going too far, you put your joker down and we change the question. So I give you the green level. Can you cut it out? I don't even feel like you're going to use it, but all at once. Oh, you mean cut it out to use it several times? I thought you meant to say no, no.

Starting point is 00:23:17 But leave it there. You want to use it, but usually they use it once, but I could leave it to you if you want to use it more often. But I would be surprised if you used it. How many then? You give me five,. But I would be surprised if you use it. How many? Give me five, please. I'll read them to you.

Starting point is 00:23:29 Wait a minute. She intrigues me. You're A-100. Three, four, five, six. Five. Perfect. I'll read them to you, Saskia. So you have five questions. You can choose one. I'll choose one.

Starting point is 00:23:42 Which person made a difference in your life? What kind of child were you? What character did you have to work on? What is your definition of the word family? To be good with me, I owe. Three little points. Hey, Boboy, Boboy, Boboy. I feel like talking a little bit about everything. To be good with me.

Starting point is 00:24:01 Do you know what I want to... Which one would you like me to answer you? No, I'll choose one after. I'll let you choose the first one. I think I'll go with being good with myself. I have to work a lot, I have to listen a lot, I have to rest a lot. I'm a girl who likes... I have a crazy TDAH that I adopted a few years ago. It came into my life and it's my great friend Karine who told me,

Starting point is 00:24:28 hey, that guy, it doesn't make sense, there's something. So I did, that's diagnosed for me. I chose not to take a drug. I tried all kinds of things. I felt like a pig of India. I made it feel like I was just trying my drugs and I wasn't feeling well. So I manage that. But as you can see, that's why I go in all kinds of directions.

Starting point is 00:24:52 So it's accepting a lot of things too. To stop, to try not to let myself be carried away by everything that's going on around me. But at the same time, I need to move, I need to be in action, I need to have projects, I need to buy a condo on the fly because I'm leaving for three days and I'm visiting a condo and I'm already doing a new one. And I'm like, OK, but now I have a condo to renovate. But it wasn't planned at all. Like opening a boutique in Bromont, you're like, Oh, well, okay.

Starting point is 00:25:26 You know, I have this in me, but I feel like I need to... Roo! A little bit. That you consolidate what you have. I think you're consulting. No, no! That too!

Starting point is 00:25:43 But I've been doing it for several years. But that you consolidate, that is to say that you have a lot of things and you would like to devote yourself to each of these things, I imagine. It's because you're enthusiastic. What makes you... I don't know, I need... It keeps me alive. It's a bit of... You know, it's for sure that... First of all, real estate is something that's been on my mind since forever. You know, I've made purchases, I've renovated, I like it. And it seems like it keeps me alive and it keeps me young. And I remember at one point, my mother had told me,

Starting point is 00:26:18 Oh my God, Saskia, I'm watching you go. Then she said, I wouldn't be able to do it anymore. She told me, at 35, 40, I would have done it. At that time, we were shopping, I don't know what to do. Then we bought a house that was not planned. That said, I have the stability of my family house for almost 20 years. But the rest, I like that kind of thing, like the shop, but it's also because it's a project that presents itself, but that is so connected to me. And this shop looks a lot like you. It's beautiful.

Starting point is 00:26:55 Thank you. And it makes sense too. I mean, the decor, it's my thing. The home-making passion, it's my thing. The design, I like that. But we can tell you that Descarte à vie is remarkable in your professional background. It's gigantic. Caroline, who works with me, had been looking forward to seeing you because for her, you were part of her life. You know, you were part of her television life. But it's 16 years old. It's gigantic. 16 years old, imagine.

Starting point is 00:27:23 Yes, it's huge. So yes, Descarteblood, that's it. But it looks like you, this shop, you see your passions at the same time. But you said something, you said it keeps me alive. Yes. It prevents you from aging. Are you afraid of death? In fact, at the moment, what is in me is to see my children grow up and find myself alone. That's what's in me. I don't want to cry because you grow up and find myself alone. That's what I live in.

Starting point is 00:27:46 I don't want to cry because you don't have Kleenex anymore. Well, I have a few. We are very limited. Caroline doesn't buy a lot of it, but I have some. Otherwise, I have my hand. But it's this fear of... Do you have to be in action not to think about it? Or, since it's your habit, you try to have fun? I don't know, honestly.

Starting point is 00:28:10 It's an excellent question. I don't know why I'm like that. I think there was... Last fall, I was at a time when I was afraid. I was afraid of doing a kind of burnout. Of everything. Burnout of everything. We'll say the same thing. I arrived one day so tired,

Starting point is 00:28:28 I didn't recognize myself anymore, I wasn't feeling well in my body, not feeling well in my head, not feeling well... Never, I wasn't feeling well. In fact, the only place I was feeling good was at the shop where I'm in a t-shirt with my skirt that I wore all summer in espadrille to welcome the world

Starting point is 00:28:44 and to jazz. That's where I was good. I was good at home. I was good at... It was very, very hard. When you're not good at home, it's still a big signal. Yes, yes, yes. Because I love my house so much. You know, earlier, I put on some music before coming in and I danced in the living room. I was looking at the sun rays, I said, excuse me, I have a little chalice. And then I was like, oh, I put on some music before I came in, and I danced in the living room, and then I was looking at the sun rays, and I said, excuse me, I have a little heat.

Starting point is 00:29:05 And then I was like, oh my God, it's beautiful. And then I went in, you know, I was happy, you know, so I had lost it all, everything, everything. And then, of course, the shop, what's fun, it's new. You know, it's... It's nourishing, it's exciting, it's stressful, too. You know, it keeps you all the time, a little bit, but the human contact is extraordinary.

Starting point is 00:29:26 And every person who comes to see me, who knows me or not, there's something fun that happens all the time. We call it the show shop. You know, we're like, it's very small, you came, Marie-Claude, you saw it. So it ends up that the lady tries on a dress, then the other one says, oh, it's beautiful. Then the guy will say, no, I like the other color better. You know, it's always over. That everyone talks to each other. Yes, and you're's beautiful. The guy will say, no, I like the other color better. It's always... That everyone talks to each other. Yes, and it's in the heart of Bromont.

Starting point is 00:29:48 It's a nice place. It's very welcoming too, in your shop. Thank you, it's nice. But it's because you look alike. You know, I'm not advertising you. I'm just like me. I went with my daughter, who was on her bed. We bought some little things.

Starting point is 00:30:00 And here, it was such a nice memory, mother and daughter. You know, you prepare your nest at home. So I think it's like that. You're generous. But except that what you're saying is... I mean, it's... I tried to have fun. Yeah, it didn't work.

Starting point is 00:30:18 No, but I think that at certain moments in life, we have periods like that where we are looking for something solid. A bit like we were in a garrison, and it's hard to regain your rhythm, to regain your balance. And do you think the trigger for that could also be the start of good? The end of the good show? Well, it's sure that I was defining myself, you know, it's funny, and it's a question that you might be able to help me answer. You know, I've been an animator all my life, and I think I'm going to help, I might be helping in my living room, but you know, it's part of me.

Starting point is 00:30:54 Communication, communications are part of me. Well, I became an entrepreneur, I was the shop, the shopkeeper, you know, but then, after that, what do you become? I was wondering at that level, who am I? Just like... Thank you. I'll take it again.

Starting point is 00:31:15 Just like when I broke up... You know, when you... Well, no, you don't know. You don't know, but you'll... I've seen a lot of people break up in my life, yes. But when you break up, you say, wait, who am I? I was a mother, I was the lot of people separating themselves. When you separate yourself, you think, who am I? I was a mother, I was Pierre's blonde. Who am I? I'm 43, soon 44.

Starting point is 00:31:32 Your world is crumbling. It's a bit like that. Because I was doing well. I always worked in the middle, left and right. You do shows, you're invited. Interviews with the 7-day team. And then, whoops, there's almost... Because obviously, I'm less invited in the shows.

Starting point is 00:31:53 So all of this becomes a bit special. But all of this mixed with the 50s, the C, the G, the hormones. It's a lot. And then you're like, oh! And then you get hooked on all kinds of things, then you get involved in all kinds of projects. It's a moment when you need stability, because we're going to say that the menopause is still

Starting point is 00:32:13 a big physical and emotional shock too. And it's for sure that when the rest moves at the same time, it's hard to find what to cling to. Because the couple is often, when you're in a relationship, still a safe place. Or you have a leverage and you say, if I'm not doing well, you're going to make sure. You know, a couple is a bit like that too.

Starting point is 00:32:36 We make sure. So when you lose that part, when there's an end, it's already destabilizing to be alone. I confirm that the word alone is very present in my life too. It's a construct I made. I have extraordinary friendships. I would like to love girls, my little mother. Maybe it would be easier, but I love boys. You feel like it would be easier.

Starting point is 00:33:03 What do you find complicated about other people? No, but I don't know that I find it complicated, but I don't have my love relationships... My God, I don't know if I really could at some point trust myself, not trust myself, but just... Assured. I like the image of a couple, when one doesn't go, the other does. It's like, there's something, you don't need to name it, it's felt. And it's done by itself. I think I've never really known that. Have you always been the one who has ensured?

Starting point is 00:33:39 Because you're still a leader, that's why I'm asking you this question. I think so. I think so. You know, there to defend themselves, and no one is there to... And I don't want to... And I'm very careful about what I say because, you know, anyway... But you have that reflex, I have the impression. Well, I have that in me, and I had that little desire to save everyone around me. So do you let the others take care of you? I have friends now, girls, who I can tell, it's not going well, but they won't come to take care of my children. But that's new in your life?

Starting point is 00:34:14 It's not new anymore, yes. But alone, that's really it too. I realized that I was alone. You had never been alone. In fact, it's not true. It was a long time before... In fact... Wait, it's not true. It's not true, it's not true. I've never been alone.

Starting point is 00:34:28 I've been alone a lot. Okay. But my true love relationship was with Pierre, who arrived late in my life. I was 28 years old. And it was a beautiful... You know, we had a beautiful 14 years, the less beautiful moments, but the first year was really amazing. We have two fabulous children.

Starting point is 00:34:36 So you know, you understand that for me, it's the most beautiful thing. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

Starting point is 00:34:44 I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. You know, we had a beautiful 14 years, the less beautiful moments, but the first year was really extraordinary. And we have two fabulous children. So you know, you understand that for me, it's the most beautiful thing in the world. I adore them, my children, I find them magnificent. They hit me in the face sometimes, but you know, I'm like... But that's life, right? But it's like... and it's weird what I'm living,

Starting point is 00:35:00 because I'm alone with my children. So you know, my children, they come in, and you know, they're almost 17, Simone, and Laurence is about 20 years old. Well, I don't know when we're going to be able to decide, but on January 30, 20 years ago. So, you know, it's like, he's an adult, first of all. So, this relationship is really special.

Starting point is 00:35:16 So, you know, it's like, pick up your room, but yes, but no, you're at home. But you know, there's something, but I have two extraordinary children who are really wonderful. But when they get into the house, they do their thing, we eat 12 minutes and a quarter, and whoops, they're in their room, you know, so that's particular too. So this loneliness is very difficult too.

Starting point is 00:35:37 Obviously, since the store, you know, I'm a little bit left, right, I'm in Beaumont, I'm at home, but that too is a new word that I didn't have in my vocabulary. It's that I understood, you know, and I have to assume it. Well, assume yourself, do your things and organize yourself. I can't really count. And that's why you're afraid of the departure of your children. Maybe. But is he talking about it, is it something?

Starting point is 00:35:59 Well, no, I think it's me. It's what you project, it's a bit, it's like a form of... But there, you know, we've all been sick. I still have a little remaining, you can hear my voice. And then I'm like, it seems like I'm more... At that time, I'm more... I'm like more preoccupied. And then, you know, Simone, the CG, and at one point, there was a question that she had...

Starting point is 00:36:16 With a little room there. Like the table there. Yeah, in residence. There I was like, well, let's see, Simone. I heard her calling me two weeks later. Mom, come get me. But you know, she told me, I was like, no, let's see, Simone. I heard her calling me two weeks later. Mom, come get me. But you know, she told me, well, no, Simone, Simone, she spends more time with me. You know, my guy is more, you know, he goes to the toilet, he's on the left, on the right.

Starting point is 00:36:35 But you know, I was like, phew, luckily I think she won't be there anymore. So to be good with you, you must... What's going on? What I understand is that you must stay active. I must stay active, but I must rest. And what I want is to find my form, because since the new hormones in my life that I receive, it's very difficult for me. Then you'll all write to me, I'll say Yes, but you try this, you try that. I have everything here.

Starting point is 00:37:07 So, you know, I have to manage myself. But there's a lot of things, you know. It's better to sleep, take care of myself, start moving again. That's missing a lot. But just put me down. And stop putting the cart before the fire, you know? You put yourself down, but we're going to put your head down.

Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, but that never stops. It never stops. But you see, it's worse since the Menopause. And I forget everything. Do you do that? No, I should. It will rest me a little. What do you take? You don't take anything? I never took anything.

Starting point is 00:37:42 I'm not saying it's the way to do it at all. But I don't know why. I'm not saying it's the way to do it at all, but I don't know why. I'm going through my menopause. One day, a doctor was around the table of a show I was in. She said, you know, women, when you have a fever, you tell yourself, but it's normal, no? Consult, there are things to do. It's not normal. And then I said to myself, well, you see, it was over. I never... I said to myself, but it's going to pass. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:38:08 It seems that I've heard so much about it and I haven't done anything. But like I said, I think I would have avoided white nights, the door open by being yelled at by the cold family. And I was always... It's just me and it's hot. I was always in these questions. I also had an inner aspect at one point where I felt a lot of anger.

Starting point is 00:38:30 I had a lot of anger, instantaneous, based on nothing. And I had to deprive myself. And it's really the book, The Wisdom of Our Angers, by Marc Pissoriou, who helped me. And you're here? I don't know if we're there to channel this, but you know, I didn't even understand that it was the menopause. You understand?

Starting point is 00:38:49 Well, that's it. I understand. So it's good to consult because it's like one day we were doing a medical examination on the menopause, there was Maud Guérin. And Maud, she said, well, I went to the doctor, I was sure I had bone cancer. I had pain everywhere. And she said when I got up in the morning, I had to go to the toilet, I had to sit down, and I recognized myself a little bit in it. You get out of your car, the first three or four steps are doubtful. Every time I got up, and when she talked, she said,

Starting point is 00:39:13 well, it's one of the symptoms of menopause. But that's because we're not listening to that either. I waited, I had that, it's funny. My daughter tells me, Mom, you go down the stairs like Grandma. You know, one step at a time, moi j'avais ça là. C'est drôle. Là, ma fille, elle me dit, maman, tu descends les marches comme mamie. Tu sais, une marche à fois, un petit pied, un autre petit pied. Là, ma mère, elle me dit, ma mère, ma fille. Là, je pars arrière parce que je vois ma mère, tu sais. Puis ma mère est jeune, elle est en forme,

Starting point is 00:39:36 mais je comprends, tu sais, à un moment donné, tu fais attention. Puis moi, je regarde les jeunes dévaler les marches en pied de bas. Je suis comme, mon Dieu, j'ai toujours peur qu'il y ait quelqu'un qui se pète la gueule, tu sais. Mais là, je fais, ben oui, c'est vrai. Là, je suis comme, I'm always afraid that someone will blow their own face. But then I'm like, yes, it's true. I'm like, I have pain everywhere. I had a little depressive symptoms too. I wouldn't lie. But as long as I do bioidentics.

Starting point is 00:39:56 Bioidentic hormones. Sorry, yes. And that helps you. We'll try to keep you right at the end. It helps me. Does it help you? Does it make a difference? You know what? I want to stop everything sometimes. And see what happens next.

Starting point is 00:40:14 Sometimes, because I don't take a lot of medication. Let's say I'm allergic. I'm allergic to my cats. That's clear, but I have two cats. But I don't want to do it. I suffer a little from that. I have asthma. When I'm sick, but obviously it's harder, I have asthma when, but I don't want to give up. So I suffer a little from that. I have asthma. When I'm sick, it's harder. I have asthma when I'm sick.

Starting point is 00:40:29 So all that, but no, no, no. I take a little pill for that. I tell myself, if I just stopped everything, I'll get my tea. Then you could reintegrate it quietly. Stop everything. I don't know. I don't know. I would have to consult without stopping the hormones.

Starting point is 00:40:44 It's not a good idea. I don't know. Listen, I don't want to talk through my hat. I don't know. I don't know, I should consult it without stopping hormones. That's not a good idea. Listen, I don't want to talk through my hat, I don't know that. Besides, I have my V&I platform, Marie-Claude, and I want to do a special hormone. Because there are so many things to learn. It's infinite. It's infinite, you know, try to understand. Because our body, it's all life, we manage that. And women, we all have the hormonal management to do

Starting point is 00:41:05 throughout our lives. So I want to receive an endocrinologist who really comes to talk to us about this. I would like that, you'll send me the link. I'll send you that. My question, which person made a difference in your life? Oh my God, if I'm a girl... My God, I'm a woman to woman.

Starting point is 00:41:20 And I love women. I think that women... Sometimes, we say, who allowed you to do that? Let's say when TV came on, I've always had girls who believed in me. Women, I should say. Who believed in me, who saw the potential, who saw the talent, who saw...

Starting point is 00:41:36 I'm a daughter to a daughter. So, I am... Can you name two? You can name them, do whatever you want. I'm going to start with Marifé Gilbert. This is the daughter of René Gilbert, who was a great TV producer. At the time, he was a talent.

Starting point is 00:41:53 He discovered, I think, Julie Snyder with another guy in it. In short, it's someone who has a lot of experience on TV. And his daughter, Mar-Fille and I, we worked together as test-takers in events. So, I started, I worked very, very early in my life, because I wanted to be independent. I had soups, I dreamed of having a polo shirt, Ralph Lauren, because everyone had it, except me. So I wanted to buy myself a little niaise like that, except that I worked very early. It's not a heavy than in a living room. So everything was already starting to settle down. And I was animating. So it was me, hello everyone, welcome to the kiosk.

Starting point is 00:42:48 And it had to be so gosseng. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Renée Gilbert worked for the community television and she was looking for an animator for a summer show. And then Marie-Fille said, Dad, you have to meet this girl. She's too much. She's funny. She's good. She's beautiful. She's in a good mood.

Starting point is 00:43:16 She's got it all. It's her. You have to meet her. But it was Marie-Fille who made her father, between two castings, say, OK, let's go. OK Ninochi, he says he's coming. And I got that first check. Through that, listen, I still see myself in the bus 80

Starting point is 00:43:34 here next to the park revenue with my, I know exactly, I had hair like way too much hair, like, you know, hair anyway. I had a little tailor, very shoulder-deep, Lila. I was holding my pants in the bus, in my joy of life. I knew, I was going there, I was like, well, I'm the one who got it. And through that, and I'm going to say that, Mère Claude, because it's so important. I just went to the Promédia school, which is the radio and television school. And when Renée Gilbert called Promédia, I said, oh, do you have a daughter?

Starting point is 00:44:03 You know, we're looking for an animator. They never talked about me. And I was so angry because he had told me, Oh, I'm sorry, I don't want to hurt anyone. It's another time. It's in history. The directors are no longer there. But I was so proud of that.

Starting point is 00:44:18 And Renée Gilbert was the same. He looked at me and I have a great memory. In the sense, less now. But let's say I read something and he said to me, OK, we're going to do an intro like you did a topo. Like, well, hello everyone today, we're going to receive a similar thing. And I had like a cane and he was like, well, you know, and it was me who had the job.

Starting point is 00:44:37 I remember I had a contract of 10 weeks, I earned $700 a week. And for me, I was gone for the glory. It's crazy. Hey, that's a lot, $700 a week. And I was gone for good. That's crazy. That's a lot. $700. $700, forget it. You went to buy a race car. What did I do?

Starting point is 00:44:54 I had a small car that I sold and decided to be smart, not knowing what... Because obviously you're like, you're going to make TV. Well, yes, you're going to make TV. How do you say? Well, not necessarily the same. But you know, people are eager to judge you. To tell you, well, it's a job like that. There you go. So, Marie-Faith, thanks to her.

Starting point is 00:45:16 First person. First person. And Marie-Faith, I met her later. We did another show. I remember I was 30 years old on that show. And it was Pierre Marcotte who was the producer on that project. It's crazy, isn't it? Pierre, the handsome Pierre. I loved that man so much. He was very nice.

Starting point is 00:45:32 In any case, with me, extraordinary. He was... Me too. Every time we went to the show, he gave me a lot of stuff. Pierre Marcotte was funny. He was very funny. I was like, if you don't go to the office, you're down. Once in a while, you don't do a good job. I said, what do you mean? He said, you talk to them. If they're not okay with you, you tell the public.

Starting point is 00:45:51 I was like, no, it doesn't happen. But because he was animating at one point. I would never have. He had a talk show, he had a phone on his desk. He called people. And at one point, people were asking if he was coming back and he didn't know. So he called his boss live to say, everyone is listening, are we renewed or not?

Starting point is 00:46:13 And the boss said, well, yes, you're renewed. But she told me, he said, after I was called, he wasn't happy, but I was renewed. You know, it was another time. And he said, before, Marc-Claude, you'd get to the TVA in the elevator downstairs, and you'd get to the 8th floor, you'd have a new show, you'd have the time, you'd meet the producers, and say, OK, we'll do that next week.

Starting point is 00:46:33 And it was that, you know, it was another way of doing it completely. But the TVA has changed a lot. So you had Marie-Faith with Pierre Marcos, and so you're the second person? It's going to cut easily for you, I hope. Hey, I'm sorry, my big boobs. Are you editing? No. No?

Starting point is 00:46:54 We're not editing! I'm here with my big boobs. Nalaise, Alassaskia! But, yes, thank you for telling me that because I didn't say it in the third year. But listen, I'm dying of my tits. My tits. It's Brigitte Vincent. Because this project with Marie-Fille Gilbert,

Starting point is 00:47:13 which was called, my God, L'Express. Renée, I would never have been there, and I would never have been able to do this screen test, if Marie-Fille hadn't told her father, there you give her a chance. And a few years later, it's Brigitte Vincent, who works on a new show of echo, who is looking for an animator, it's Canal V, it was at the time, we called it, well I think it still exists at the time, an offer call.

Starting point is 00:47:42 So a producer who creates a concept of an issue. And then he's looking for an animator. And then obviously my Canalvy, which was a bit at the beginning. You know, I'm talking about that. Let's say I had... Oh, my God. It's starting to get a little bit there. It's starting to get a little bit there.

Starting point is 00:47:55 I was obviously looking for a well-known animator. Because I wasn't a little... I mean, I did that show. I did the pull-out of Auto-Québec. A few projects around that. But you know, I wasn't known. You understand? And Brigitte had said to me, I had done the pull-out of L'Auto-Québec, some projects around that, but you know, I was not known, you understand. And Brigitte had said to me, I love her, you know, I find her fun, and I would like to see her in screen test again, so in front of the camera, hello!

Starting point is 00:48:15 It's an audition, but filmed, you know. And then Brigitte went to see you in Canaleville and said, it's like that, it takes us. It's 109. » I was on the edge of a cliff, I'm very interested in her. Especially, because that was also the life-saving. It was really a love chain, taking care of the other and all that.

Starting point is 00:48:40 And Brigitte, so it's her who's a little bit beaten for me with Canal Vie, and gave me my first contract. My first year, we were 16. So this woman is very important to me. I mean, girls in my life are very precious. You know, giving chances, opening doors.

Starting point is 00:48:58 I never knew that about mesquines. In fact, the only time I knew about mesquinerie, jealousy or a shit thing, it was with a man. So it was a bit flat to say, but otherwise, I never knew that. Just full of beautiful, extraordinary women. You know, Isabelle, same thing, Isabelle Boutin who produced well.

Starting point is 00:49:17 You said, Saskia, I'm working on a show called Bien. It was just finishing, Descords ta vie, she said, right away, when you said yes to the project, but it was just Saskia, and TVA would embark, and they would like that. It's tempting. Huh? You know, gifts that life offers you like that.

Starting point is 00:49:38 So I don't know if it was my last one. I'm shivering. Because basically, it's Descords ta vie, Bien, Canne. Well, I would like that. But I had chills. Because in fact, it's a life-size set. What about you? I'd like that, but I had proposals. We're going to propose some things, but you know what Pierre Marcotte taught me? In fact, when you're an animator, your role is to put the other in front of you. For me, putting myself in front of it is more difficult. I listened to your super nice interview with Marc Labrèche,

Starting point is 00:50:05 who started by saying, I have nothing to say. Me too, I feel a little bit like that. Not that I have nothing to say, because we all have a life. I think, as my children would say, everyone can relate. But I didn't want it to be like that. And if we liked each other... Because we thought for a long time that it was me. Yes, well, there are a lot of people who say to me,

Starting point is 00:50:31 is that really what it is? Well no, I can't, it's impossible. I don't want people to talk about me, I want to leave the floor to others. Even if I talk a lot. Let's say if we didn't know you, let's say in the standard version of If we liked each knew, would you have participated in this kind of show? As an animator?

Starting point is 00:50:49 No, not as an animator, as a participant. Oh no, impossible. Well no, it's... No, no, it's looking at me. No, that's it. I'm not comfortable with that. You know, and I'm talking about less and less of my private life too. You know, I don't want to talk about it. I was 5 years old with someone who didn't care about it. I think I talked about it. Being public. Yes, that's it, 2 or 3 times.

Starting point is 00:51:14 It's a bit like Mario, who is no longer the one who can do it. But these are choices at some point. Because when you give a lot publicly, you have to keep things for yourself. It can't be all public. And after that, you don't want to stage your life, say, we're going to show this image, but it's not necessarily that one. So, in the end, you say, look, we're going to keep calm.

Starting point is 00:51:38 We are two personalities, we do what we have to do. The rest, it's up to us. I think it depends, there are others for whom it's something else, but you have to listen, you have to agree with that. Well, I think over the years too, it changes. You know, it's not, it's okay to expose yourself, and it's okay not to do it too. What I find the most difficult, being a freelancer,

Starting point is 00:52:01 in fact, is that people use my image on dating sites, it's very, very funny. I'm a bit of a libertarian. People use my image on dating sites. It's very funny. There's not a single day where I'm not being written by a man. Yeah. What is it? Do they use your name?

Starting point is 00:52:15 They take my picture. Okay, with another name. Not necessarily. They'll put an H somewhere, or an E+, or withdraw money, or that too. I find that horrible, yes.

Starting point is 00:52:27 So we take the opportunity to tell people to be careful. The little blue dot next to our name, it's so precious. And me, the other time, it was a Saskia who was paying for a VIP thing to be able to talk. And then the new thing is Saskia Tour message. So there, it's like if I had opened an account just to chat with people. But it's because these people are not good people. No, but we're getting carried away.

Starting point is 00:52:51 Hey, the last thing I saw that you put there, I'm out of my mind. I'm on the phone. But you know that earlier, just before you arrive, I'll often see my messages because I try to see everything that comes out of it. It's the people who just wrote to me on my messenger from my public page. And a lady told me, I can't believe you're in fauteuil roulant. I said, no, it's not true.

Starting point is 00:53:12 I'm not in fauteuil roulant, but you can believe this image. There's another one, it's practically my voice. I look like I'm talking a little in a kakan, but it's still my way of speaking. And it's me in the studio here. It's just my mouth that's different. No, but it's still my way of speaking. And it's me in the studio here. It's just my mouth that's different. No, but it's disgusting. There are sexual things too.

Starting point is 00:53:30 It makes me feel like shit. So we'll see on your page. I think it's good that people come and ask. Is it true? It's becoming validated. There is never anyone who will bother us because we don't want people to know. Exactly. You give me four. And no matter your team, your favorite player or your style, there's something every NBA fan will love about BedMGM.

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Starting point is 00:55:05 Are you the mother you would have liked to have? Oh my! It's hard, huh? Just one? Yes, after that I will choose one. Yes, I know, I can't get out of it. So what type of lover are you? What do people reproach you the most often? What did you not receive from your parents and what did you miss? Are you the mother you would have wanted to have? Well, I think I'm going to read it, but that's because I won't get out of it. What type of lover am I? I must be an extraordinary lover. Oh! But no, I think I'm... I think I don't know anymore.

Starting point is 00:55:48 I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. But I think I'm a true lover. When I'm in love, I'm in love. But it's... And my God, it's a feeling that I don't know if I'll ever relive. As I've already known. I think it also varies as I get older, but I'm in love with life.

Starting point is 00:56:05 You understand? Love, my God, it's very difficult to say. Okay, I'll take another question. So you have one already. So you're going to like that. Are you the mother? Oh, what people blame me for? Not going to the end of my answers. To be a little bit left, right, to be a little bit spread out. To be...

Starting point is 00:56:27 My God, what do I feel? But that's part of the deficit group of the wait. Well, of course. What do you say? Uh... We're going to feel bad. Listen, you know, we're going to feel bad maybe for not being present enough. You know, in the sense that it comes with the group, you know, to sit down and be there, I think I'm a little bit of a kid. I think that people think I'm a kid.

Starting point is 00:56:46 Sometimes they think I'm a kid. I think I'm a kid. I think I'm a kid. I think I'm a kid. I think I'm a kid. I think I'm a kid. I think I are blaming me. I'm surrounded by people who are very kind to me. My son would say that I'm a little bit gossy.

Starting point is 00:57:07 I think he thinks I'm gossy. Sometimes he tells me, do you hear yourself? Because you're pointy? No, it's because I want to take care of him, so it becomes gossy. Do you understand? But you know, there, Laurent, like there, we're all out of a kind of rhum, of no relation. And then, but there, are you okay? But there, did you look? But there, Laurent, do you know what you took? Hey! That, he would say that. I'm not a bit... Woohoo!

Starting point is 00:57:45 You know, I'm like, it goes in all kinds of things. But you have a lot of energy. Oh, less and less. That's it, you feel that it's that too. You feel the change. But that sometimes has an impact too. You said earlier, I went close to burnout. But you know, the descent of energy...

Starting point is 00:58:03 I thought you were going to say the descent of children. No! But when you have less energy, everything becomes heavier too. Ah, listen, honestly, yes. And I know what I did that I shouldn't do anymore. And at some point, you know, when the shop... I worked seven days a week, Marc-Lauré. Seven days a week! I took my first Sunday off in September. So I worked Marc-Laurent. 7 jours sur 7! J'ai pris mon premier dimanche de congé en septembre. Fait que je travaillais depuis juin, non-stop.

Starting point is 00:58:29 Puis, salut Stéphanie, ma partenaire qui est extraordinaire. On le fait tous et deux. C'est-à-dire, je travaillais pas toujours 7 jours sur 7, mais mon travail, c'est plein d'autres affaires, t'sais. Je veux dire, je travaille comme ambassadrice pour des entreprises, je fais de la création de contenu, j'écris, j'ai mon commerce en ligne. La boutique, c'est pas juste d'être présente à la boutique, c'est tout ce qui vient avec. I do content creation, I write, I have my online shop, the shop, it's not just being present at the shop, it's everything that comes with it. So it's non-stop.

Starting point is 00:58:50 That means that you never stop. Never. No, but that's what's difficult. It's when you can't stop that. That's what gets tiring. No, no. The threat. The threat of the joker.

Starting point is 00:59:03 No, but that's it, exactly. And you're absolutely right, but I know that. The threat of the joker. No, but that's it. Exactly. You're absolutely right. But I know that. But it's to understand that. And this fall, I had a water damage at home. I cried so much. I was so upset with that.

Starting point is 00:59:14 Me, my house is my bed. And in my bed, I remember, I was sleeping. I thought, I didn't take care of my house this summer. Me, my house is the Saskia Club. I have to invite you to Saskia Club. I have myoir que je t'invite au Sasquiat Club. J'ai mon enseigne dehors. Pis t'sais ma maison est ouverte, tu viens de baigner quand tu veux, tu rentres chez nous quand tu veux.

Starting point is 00:59:33 Il y a un petit frigo que tu peux mettre ton... T'sais pour moi c'est ça, c'est d'accueillir des gens. Mais cet été j'ai pas fait ça, j'ai pas pu faire ça. Parce que je travaillais tout le temps. Pis quand je t'arrivais pis y a eu le dégâts d'eau au mois d'août, pis là je suis seule, je sais que je suis pas toute seule, y a plein de gens qui ont traversé. I couldn't do that because I worked all the time. And when I arrived, there was a water damage in August. I knew I wasn't alone. There were a lot of people who crossed. And worse, worse, worse than me, finally I feel good about it.

Starting point is 00:59:51 But it ended up that we thought my French drain was scrapped. I saw that and that's where the word alone came from. I got help, fortunately, but I felt alone in the world. So I did what? I did these big things. I saw that big, big, big, I was like, calm down. I was sleeping, I was looking at my house, I said, forget about it. And I promised him. It's funny to say, I'm sorry, I'm not...

Starting point is 01:00:12 I promised to take care of my house, my house. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Even if it represents a lot. Yeah, my house. It's your place, it's your home, your home. And you talked a lot about this house. You know, you just talked about my house. Yes. It's your place, it's your home, it's your home. And you've talked a lot about this house. You just talked about your new house.

Starting point is 01:00:28 We did an episode, do you remember? In my house. It was called, well, it's simply Vedette. Well yes, because we're big. Yes, and it was on your new sofa. I remember that. Do you know? I have pictures, we were, listen,

Starting point is 01:00:44 can we... Hey, I would like that, with the children. We were... Can we... I would like that. With the children, we were bathed and everything. Yes, it was on the conciliation of work. What was the theme? We were the Vedettes, but... No, but it was me who went to the Vedettes, in Simply Vedettes, and each show had a theme.

Starting point is 01:01:00 What was it for us? Well, that's it, because I had interviewed Pierre at the time. I think it was... I remember it wasn was not like the constellation family work versus the mental burden. You know, I remember very well at home, it was so clean, everything was beautiful, your beautiful winter, everything was perfect. Everything was beautiful. I remember that.

Starting point is 01:01:19 But you know, you don't show everything, sometimes you close doors. Well, that's it. But you knew, you knew something that I didn't know that you told in the interview. Yes. You've already gone crazy. You were going to say that, yes. Well, it's because with what happened in Los Angeles, we saw so many images of devastated houses.

Starting point is 01:01:36 It really made me think. You know, when you leave your home, you come back, there's nothing left. And then in their case, the neighbors, there's nothing left. Your neighborhood no longer exists. Your memories. How old were you? I was 10 years old. We lived in Quebec,

Starting point is 01:01:54 in a magnificent apartment. I remember that time. It's funny, we were talking about the difference. When you notice, it's the girls at school who had beautiful hair and who had products for their hair. And we had shampoo.

Starting point is 01:02:10 It was not serious, I was not unhappy. You understand the kind of... I was interested, she's called Sophie Voyer, hello. She was beautiful, she had hair and she put on foam. So she had curls. And I was looking at her and I envied her so much. But that's an apartment to tell you that this month of October, it's a week of autumn, you know, of dreams,

Starting point is 01:02:33 like we had a little this year, you know, a beautiful week, a beautiful day. And my mother had bought me some cream rind. I had cream rind. I remember, you know, we had a nice day, I had washed my hair. We had stretched outside, it was so beautiful. And then in the evening, I don't know what time it was, it was the owner. We were maybe in a block of apartments, we had beautiful apartments. I don't know how many floors, then it was so beautiful, and the guy said,

Starting point is 01:03:00 Pauline, get out, there's a fire in the basement, the balloon was on the last floor. And listen, that feeling, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, I'm going to the bathroom, the water. We lost everything. Except my mother had a glass with money, money, a pot of mason. And she kept the fridge that we kept for years, which was yellow. That's all you saved? All we saved, yes. And we obviously didn't have insurance. And I don't know, sometimes I tell myself, oh, insurance, my God, that's a long story too.

Starting point is 01:03:50 Because I lived with the disaster too, I wasn't even well, you know, I didn't have... Take the time to do that, Marc-Laure, take the time to do that right. Because when it happens, you say, let's see, it doesn't make sense that we don't have better managed our things. But the fire, it was very, very big in my life.

Starting point is 01:04:05 Oh my God, it's traumatizing. And then I did, I just talked about it recently with a partner. And I said, I was like, my God, I'm talking about it. I was afraid to talk about it, you know, because it brings me a lot of hard memories. My mother was extraordinary. We had help at school. Everyone mobilized. I was in the fourth year. To give us a hand. I had my wig that died in the fire.

Starting point is 01:04:30 A family bought me a wig. I imagine. It was in the time of the Frisinettes. But you know, I also remember that there were people who had been mesquite with me, girls. It was a girls' school. I went to the Ursulines of Quebec. And they told me, well, yes, it's good to go to the fire. But the poor kid, we have to buy him il a passé au feu, il fait que le pauvre, tu sais, il faut qu'on y achète des affaires, mais tu sais, les gens ont pas de...

Starting point is 01:04:48 Ouais, fait que, oui, j'ai passé au feu pis je... c'est vraiment horrible. C'est traumatisant pis il a fallu vous relocaliser. On a vécu chez ma tante pendant... c'est drôle, ce bout-là, c'est un peu vague. Mais je peux te raconter une anecdote cute par rapport à ça.

Starting point is 01:05:04 Pied de poules had just started. Hello Marc Labrèche! I love him. I love him. He's so cute, really. Absolutely. Do you smell good? Absolutely.

Starting point is 01:05:12 I love him so much! Sophie is very attached to Marc Labrèche. Oh my God, I love him. So, Pied Poules is the first to leave Quebec. And my mother, who worked as a seamstress and worked in the art world, had tickets, I don't know, but it was the next day of the fire. So I went to see Pied de Poule in a jacket, with my little blue jacket, which I had the day before when I left the fire.

Starting point is 01:05:33 But I went to see Pied de Poule, and for me, music is what makes me the most... I would have liked to dance and sing, you understand? But I think I would have liked more to use my phone in Fantasia but it's not serious, you know, I would have wanted that. It was my dick, the music was... But I went to see you, chicken feet in jacket, and one day, years later, oh my God, I have a blank of memory. Mark, the one who wrote Chicken Feet, the chum, oh my God. So it's not true that my husband, I'm going to have to read that name. Well, no, help us out. But we...

Starting point is 01:06:06 Vita Vinigrette. Yes, yes, yes, I know. Marc, who was in love with Luc Plamondon. We meet in a soup and I'm sitting next to Marc. And you know, I'm... Thank you, Marc Drouin. And you know, I'm still impressed because Luc is in front of me. I think I was in the time when my my friend was with Francois Mascotte.

Starting point is 01:06:26 And then, you know, I'm still... It's not nothing, you know, it's... I was next to him and then I say, Marc, I saw you. He says, stop that right now. I have to tell you an anecdote. I had told you that. That I went to see you.

Starting point is 01:06:41 Chicken feet, jacket off, that we had passed the fire the day before. And listen, he was so touched by my story. I found it so cute and I was happy. I went to see it. Chicken feet, jacket on, we had passed the fire in the evening. And listen, it had been so touched by my story. I had found it so cute and I was happy. I don't know, it made me happy. Years later, I had seen it in Vinaigrette, here in Montreal, on Saint-Laurent. You know, it's a world that I love a lot. Oh, poor thing!

Starting point is 01:07:00 Yes, but it was a nice jacket. Yes, it was a nice jacket, but I imagine how it should come out of that. Oh my God, what I remember was more, is mom going to... because she told me, get out, you understand? Is she going to follow? Is she going to be okay? I remember that, that was just it. So you're on the sidewalk and you can still see... You know, in the evening it was very cold, I have 24 octaves in my head, I don't know why. And then everyone obviously, like in the movies, with blankets,

Starting point is 01:07:28 they come to us. But you know, I'm a little baby of 10 years old, can you imagine? All you have, it's in there. We lost everything. Red question. Yes. You will give me three please. No, I think fire is scary.

Starting point is 01:07:43 Your memories, your photos, your... You know, our memories are important in our lives. I don't wish that on anyone, really, really. And take the time to live your life. To be safe. And that, for real. For real. So here are the questions from the red number. Do you have regrets?

Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh my God. Do you feel like you? Oh my God! Do you feel like you've neglected some aspects of your life? What was the most difficult challenge to overcome? You chose one. Oh my God! Um... Regrets, I have a lot, a lot, a lot. I think I can answer three.

Starting point is 01:08:24 Okay, go ahead. I have a lot of regrets, but I work on it, in the sense that I try to recover some. But on the other hand, I understand that I can't recover for everything and for everyone in my life. I do the best I can. You know, we talked about the mother you would have liked to see. My mother did the best she could with what she had. I do the best I can with what I have. I continually question myself. I talk to my children. I listen to them the best. You see, that's maybe a reproach. My listening is not always super good. But I'm always there for them and they can always count on me. Now I can't do everything for everyone.

Starting point is 01:09:11 I can't... You know... They've been with me for several years. Of course, their father is there, he does his best, but they're with me in full time. I work, I don't stop for a second, I need to live my life as a woman, you know, it's humane, you know. But I, yes, you can always say, I would have done differently, I would have done differently, but I try to recover as much as possible,

Starting point is 01:09:38 but above all to exchange and communicate. Above all, I talk to my children, who are the people who are the most important to me. The when I talk to my children, who are the most important people for me. The adults of my life, I decided to pay attention to them and talk about what I might have wanted to do differently to those who make me feel good in a certain way. Because I can't save the whole world. Because I have this desire to want to help everyone. So I'm the one who will...

Starting point is 01:10:03 I'm not the girl who Wait, I'll say it. I'm not the girl who will go make you tarts and a spaghetti sauce. I'll buy one for you, and I'll take you to the restaurant. Then I'll pay, and I'll buy you clothes, and I'll hire you, and I'll do... I'll... If your friend can't come, I'll pay for you.

Starting point is 01:10:20 That's what I'm going to do. You understand? I'm like that. So I have regrets, but I can't do everything for everyone. And the regrets I had, which made me a little sad because, with work, I was a little... I would have wished... You know, like I regret... I didn't travel with my young children because... I thought it was a stock.

Starting point is 01:10:38 And you know, me, parents who talk to their young children, I find them very good. Well, when I was able, I said, OK, go, we have a lady, we made trips together. You know, and what I find the hardest, especially there, in the early 50s, is that Krimpoff... When you say Krimpoff, it's... Ooh, you feel good there.

Starting point is 01:10:59 There's not much left, there's more. So I don't want to have regrets, but rather have fun and do what I want to do now. That's why when there are things that come up, sometimes I go, woo, I'm going, and that's it. Like I want to go on a trip with my boyfriend, like my company Balmy, where I buy in Turkey. I couldn't go because of the pandemic, but I would like to do that with him. I want to do business with him. You could go where there are the Mongols Fierre. We see a lot of images in Turkey.

Starting point is 01:11:29 It's really beautiful. I want to do everything. I would like to do everything. I understand. But in the end, what I hear is that you regret what you didn't do. You don't regret what you did. Well, there are things that I could have done differently, but at some point you can't always tell yourself that you can do it differently. That at some point, you can't always say that you can do differently.

Starting point is 01:11:45 It's that it doesn't give you anything. You know, to knock on the head, the stove, so yes, that's it. And then you realize, my little mother, it's going so fast, you know. Time is crazy. So I want to, you know, like, you know, I almost bought myself a house in Bromont, I was shopping. Yes. I visited your house in Arcland. And then, you know, sometimes I tell myself, but stop, you can't always be in there, but I want to enjoy it, but I also want to...

Starting point is 01:12:16 So yes, I regret things I didn't do, that I could have done differently. I think I have a dialogue, I managed to communicate on that. And you know what? I regret not closing doors sooner in my life on big pieces of my life. That I'm starting to do. Put people or situations or places or stories aside. You allow it. Yes. places or stories. To be able to... You allow it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:45 I don't know if it's age or trust at some point. To say that time is precious. Yeah, that's crazy. And you know, we were talking earlier about Saint-Plaume-à-Vedette, I went to your place. And one day I went to Marie-Christine Lavoie, the designer. And I think that was the theme.

Starting point is 01:13:01 She's ordinary, she's not cute. I'm sure she is. I'm always the one who makes the noise. And Marie-Christine is also a bit like you, she's in joy. She's in help, she's always helped Marie-Christine. And I had done Marie-Christine on people who were close to dying. That was the theme of this simple woman. And she had failed to times when she almost died. And once, a boat accident.

Starting point is 01:13:27 Yes, that's true. And the second time, she was, I think, I don't want to say anything, but in Asia, maybe in Thailand, something like that. And there was a siphon that sucked her in the bottom of the water. And it's a man who went to save her, she left the bottom of the water, the wave sucked her, she went down the water, a lot, a man who went to save her, she left the water, the wave sucked her, she went in the water, a lot, a lot. They took her out and she was at the hospital, I think there was salt on her organs.

Starting point is 01:13:54 You know, it was a… A serious one. Yes, yes, it was very, very serious. It was very, very serious to such an extent that she had seen her life go by, you know, what is always said. And what she told me, she said, you know, when you get out of that, you know, when you saw how you thought you were going to die, she said, I understood that in my life there were a lot of lies

Starting point is 01:14:14 that didn't come from her. And she said to herself, life is too short to accept the lie, because hearing a lie is losing its time. It's something that doesn't exist. And it really got me when she said that. We had a lot of comments at the time about that. It's true that it's a great waste of time. For the one who tells, for the person who receives,

Starting point is 01:14:39 we're talking about something that's wrong. And that, you know, there's no one in his life, but I have the impression that we have moments in our lives that make us want to authenticate the truth and that everything else is accessory. It becomes banal. But I had so many lies in my life, in my youth. The lies, the untruths, the falsehoods, the tyrants, and then her, and then her. Listen to me, I can't stand that anymore. So I understand very well. But the lie is sometimes to save your skin. You know, there are people who will lie to save their skin, but that doesn't belong to us necessarily. But it takes a long path.

Starting point is 01:15:10 You know, I want to... Well, you know Richard Turcotte, for sure. I'm a man I love. We did auditions for L'Auto-Québec together in 2000 when they recreated the film. And I was very happy. I was very happy. I was very happy. You know, I want to... You know Richard Turcotte, for sure. He's a man I adore. We did auditions for L'Auto-Québec together in 2000.

Starting point is 01:15:28 When they re-edited the new version, it was like L'Auto-Québec by night. We were co-animating. We had been, I think... Listen, hundreds of auditions to do. Then we did it, Richard and I, together. Then we were chosen together. And even if we don't see each other often,

Starting point is 01:15:44 he's a man I adore. I'm a man who loves him. I was in the auditions, and Richard and I had done it together, and we were chosen together. Even if we don't see each other often, he's a man I adore. And that man has an extraordinary strength. When he decides, let's say he takes a... You know, you say, OK, I don't know, I'm going to stop drinking coffee. Well, he stops, and it's over. I stop surrounding myself with people. But there are people who...

Starting point is 01:16:07 For me, it's long. Is it the fear of displeasure? It's the fear of being wronged. It's the fear of finding myself even more alone. You know, I don't know. So there's that, but it's a long journey to go. But I think it's coming late in my life, but it's never too late at the same time. And why do you feel needed at the moment?

Starting point is 01:16:26 Because I have to take care of myself, I have to save my skin. Because it takes energy. It takes energy, it takes... Sometimes, it's funny, I hear myself talking and I go, Oh, boy, you heard that before, and I don't want to say that. I remember, and then, look, someone in my life that I loved, you know?

Starting point is 01:16:50 And he always told me, Oh, I saw that! I thought so much about you! I almost... I threw it away. It's commonplace. But when you're a child, you're always told that.

Starting point is 01:16:59 Oh, that was cute! Can you imagine? I saw you, but... You know, it's like... It's like a disappointment every time? Every time you're told when you're in pain Imagine, I saw you, but you know, it's all like... It's like a disappointment every time. Every time you get told when you're in pain and you cry, oh, you're beautiful when you cry.

Starting point is 01:17:12 You know, stuff like that that comes from people who are supposed to take care of you, but things like that, but it's long. And then I'm going to be 52 years old and I'm starting to be able to close those doors. But you still do it. Yes. You understand? Oui. Ça arrive à ce moment-là, mais ça arrive. Tu as raison.

Starting point is 01:17:29 Tu as raison. Puis ça, tu vois, tu me fais penser que je trouve que parfois, la fille joyeuse qui était, je t'ai rendu un peu plate, dark. C'est-à-dire que je suis rendue que je mets plus l'accent sur le négatif que le positif. Fait que merci Marc-Laude, c'est terminé à partir d'aujourd'hui. Juste du positif. Mais c'est quoi, Marc-Laude, it's over from today. Just positive. But what is it that you have to get back to your joy? You should read the book by Frédéric Lenoir.

Starting point is 01:17:52 Do you have it? But I have it at home. I think I'll take it with me because I really like this book. For me, by the way, it's not a siphon, it's a typhon. Because it's funny because... I'm not more excited than the siphon. No, but it's because I'm saying... Except it's not a siphon.

Starting point is 01:18:16 That's for the toilet. Yes, and it's so tragic at the same time. But she was sucked in by a typhon. I think it's the rectification here. It's in the water. Yes, it's really like a wave of fund that you don't see from the experiment, but it comes to you. So I think it's really important to do the rectification. But you know, when my mother died, I started working again quickly.

Starting point is 01:18:41 And I had to, it looked like I was putting it somewhere quickly. You know, it seemed like I had to put it somewhere that I didn't really know where. But you know, it's fatigue, it's a lot of things. Well, it's also to be able to say it. Because you don't want to be connected to your emotions, you don't want to cry, you don't want to... You say, OK, go, go, go, but at some point it catches up. I had spoken to Marie-Eve Janvier, her brother was dead.

Starting point is 01:19:02 We were talking, we were talking, the media were gossiping together. And I wondered her brother was dead. And we were talking, we were making the media giggle together. And I wondered how it was going. And she was in a big professional period. And she said, listen, I'm going to live it in February. I have a stop. And it had me... It was the same all the time. When my mother died, I immediately thought of Marie-Eve in January.

Starting point is 01:19:19 And I said to myself, OK, I'm going to be in April. You know, she died on September 1st, but I'm going to... But you know, in the time of the holidays, I had lived at some times, but I was like in a state of mind. But I was wondering, what would bring me back to my joy? Because, you know, it would seem like you're not yourself. You know, it's like you're laughing, but it's not funny, but you know, there's no such thing as a sliver. It's like if the engine, you think it's going to start, but it doesn't. But we laugh less as we age too, and it's flat.

Starting point is 01:19:50 But you have to find, you have to keep this capacity for wonder. And I said to myself, but what would connect me? And then I thought back to the book by Frédéric Lenoir, which made me understand that joy is something we carry with us. I'm happy today, that's not joy. And I had seen a performance by Christophe May. I had seen that performance at the Olympia in Montreal. And he was surrounded by musicians, his father was on stage.

Starting point is 01:20:16 There was happiness, joy, spontaneity, musicality, the world was dancing. I remember I was out there saying, wow, I just lived a lot of energy. And I thought, it's Christophe Maillet who would do me good. And there, he wasn't in the show. And his first show he gave was at the Nîmes Music Festival in the south of France. It was in July.

Starting point is 01:20:41 And without saying anything, I booked two tickets. And I went to see Christophe Maillet at his first world tour. I didn't even miss a show. The day that started again. And there was no price. It was like, me, that's what I need. And I was in that room. And listen, it was in the Nîmes arenas, it's a bit like the Coliseum.

Starting point is 01:21:08 I saw the images, it was so magical. And I said to myself, hey, that was so it, because there was a before and after that event, it was more than a concert. And I tell myself sometimes, when you're a bit like what you're describing right now, I think you have to stop, and you have to say, what do I need? What do I... Yes, what do I need? It's hard to find. It takes, it takes, we would say, like a silence. Yes.

Starting point is 01:21:38 And what comes to you first in that silence? Well, for me, it's the music. You, it also goes somewhere. I told an extraordinary moment of my life, my new life, since, let's say, 50 years, where I was always a little bit on the set, and you said earlier, we were on set in Quebec, that plus the other projects, and you know, and at home, there was always the fear of missing money. I was raised in there afraid of missing money.

Starting point is 01:22:05 I was raised in there, afraid of missing money. So I kind of wanted to be careful, and on the other side, who's going to buy a house on the fly, it's a little weird, it has nothing to do with it, but... When I had... When I had the end of the good, and all that, I thought, OK, now you're going to enjoy it. And...

Starting point is 01:22:22 Drake was coming to Montreal. We get along, Drake, I like him, he's nice and all that. Well, it's not true, he did some funny stuff recently, I might not want to say that. But musically speaking, I like him. The more I knew my guy, you know, we're going to go, the more I told the kids, I'm going to see Drake.

Starting point is 01:22:39 And then I buy tickets. And it's, you know, it's like... It was just to be at the Coliseum... not at the Coliseum, at... At the Bell Centre? Yes, or as we used to say in the past... At the Forum? At the Forum, to be at the Bell Centre. I had great tickets and I was with my boyfriend

Starting point is 01:22:58 because he couldn't go with his friends but his friends were in the cockpit upstairs and we had... I saw Drake there, let's say I saw him big enough, but we were well placed. And there was a special guest, we didn't know who it was, and this special guest landed, and I see my guy, who was killing his life. But just that, I'll show you the video, but I swear you're gonna cry. He's like, oh shit god! He starts screaming.

Starting point is 01:23:26 Everyone gets up. I don't know who he is, but you know, I was like, ok. I was scared. I probably lived that moment with my son, and I'll never watch that video again.

Starting point is 01:23:42 I know I'll watch it all my life. It's beautiful. we have shivers like that. And not long after, I went to see Lionel Richie. I cried so much, I lied so much. You know, that's it. I understand what you mean. For me, it's music. But it looks like just re-igniting that little candle.

Starting point is 01:23:59 It's like the engine is going off. Completely. There's something. And I tell you, you have to stop. And sometimes it might happen in three weeks, and that's what I need. But you still have to open up. Open up the little connection here.

Starting point is 01:24:15 And not to say, no, it's going to be too expensive. Put yourself, you know, I think you still have to open up the world of possibilities when it's to reconnect with this essence which is joy. And then, well, it's not possible, but not to limit yourself from the start, to say it can't be that, what is it, after that, how can I get myself together? Because sometimes we can move mountains when it's a question almost of survival, a question of staying out of the water. Well, me, honestly, the other day I was, honestly, I was getting ready and I was thinking,

Starting point is 01:24:49 well, what are we going to do? And then I fell a little bit. And what do I notice? I'm smiling down there. And then I'm going to say hello to my beautiful sister. You know, I... You're doing lip-sync? I'm doing...

Starting point is 01:25:04 And then I looked at myself and I was like, Hey! There it's going to work. Then I started to... To smile. I smile less. I don't know why. It's normal to smile less. I was like... I put on a tunic.

Starting point is 01:25:20 I started dancing and I was in a good mood. I immediately found this kind of... life. But dancing is extraordinary. I know. You know, dancing, you can't afford it as an adult. There's no room. We don't go out to dance. No, but you know, it's funny, I shared a video.

Starting point is 01:25:35 I'm like, if there's room... Oh, you were with a hemodome, is that it? Well, yes, but... Around your nose? Yes, we were all around a nose. And me, at home, it's a soup. If we don't dance, it's flat. I bought balls.

Starting point is 01:25:48 We sing, you see, at home. But it's the foot. We sing all the time. It's super important. I put the microphone on, we connect, and we're not in the performance. Yes, we believe it, but it's not beautiful. It's not necessarily beautiful, but we don't care.

Starting point is 01:26:01 It's that it's so good. What do we feel inside? Because we are often in the eyes of others. beautiful, but we don't care. What do we feel inside? Because we are often in the eyes of others. And I find that in those moments when we dance, when we sing, when we laugh... We forget. But I think that's what we like.

Starting point is 01:26:16 It's the sensation. I remember when I was doing classical singing classes, my teacher Sylvie, she always told me, she would make sounds for us sometimes, and it didn't come out well. She said, here, it's not what comes out. I want you to keep that sensation, because at some point it will come out differently. But remember the sensation, not the sound. When I ask you that, it's in your stomach that it happens, in your sound column. And you say, no, it's not in your ears. She said, no, I don't want you to hear that. You'll understand, they'll ask you to do the mixed voice,

Starting point is 01:26:48 it'll all be mixed. And I said, okay, in the end, it's the sensation that's important. That's important, you know, sometimes singing, dancing, it's the sensation we have inside. What's outside is not as important. How does it come out? But how does it feel good?

Starting point is 01:27:04 But the video, I saw it. My wife has already opened your game here. And that's it. I tell people, because if they don't know it, it's the owner, Nolinge Réma, who is also a partner of Marie-Claude. And it was nice to see that video. Well, for me, it's something I really like to do.

Starting point is 01:27:22 First of all, I love making people dance. And then I said, let's make a video. And I know that this video, we're going to watch it for years, and it's going to make us smile. I have another one in my business, where with the whole family. So my ex, his blonde, my beautiful dad, well, my beautiful dad, in fact, the father of his sister.

Starting point is 01:27:43 And we're the whole family, because we're an explosion family. I'm always decomposed and recomposed a little bit. But we spend time together, and that will awaken a lot. People really enjoyed seeing us. And the young people dancing, it's super cute. There's nothing to be shy about. I find more than music, exactly. Dancing, singing, of course, is fun too. Nothing to make people dance. I find more than music and dance.

Starting point is 01:28:05 Singing is fun too. Where do you feel better? Oh my God! In my pool. In the water. In the water. I feel good. When I go to Florida, my condo in Florida, I love it so much.

Starting point is 01:28:19 I feel so good. I wouldn't live there. But to be able to go there, before I couldn't go there often, now I can go more, even if there's a shop. But I have my partner, who is extraordinary, who lets me go if I need to.

Starting point is 01:28:35 But listen, I'm fine at home too. I'm fine in my house. It's for sure that, you know, the sun, the palm trees, just a little bit, in fact, it would take take a palm tree on the edge of my pool. Well, it can be. Can it be? Does it exist? Do you need to be true? Well, that would be...

Starting point is 01:28:52 Otherwise, I'll try. No, but it can be sold, palm trees, for real, big palm trees, but it's just that it's winter, it's more difficult. Well, they become turquoise, the summer after, it's less cute. But I understand what you mean. That, I like that. My element is water. Otherwise, it will be quiet. But I'm fine when I'm doing something. It's like that.

Starting point is 01:29:12 You see, my element is water, like you. And more and more also the forest. The trees. There's something there when I find myself in the forest, I don't know. It calms me like that. Nature. The energy changes. When I'm in the forest, I don't know, it calms me down like that. Nature.

Starting point is 01:29:26 The energy changes. It seems that I completely become again. Water also made me my essence. You know what I... Because I'm really calmer than I am. It's in the sense that if you asked me what I am, I would say calm. But when you look at me, I'm not so calm because I'm very agitated. I always have something to think about. I want things to happen. It's never going to be fast enough.

Starting point is 01:29:49 It's not bad in action. You're in action a lot. And yet, I'm very good in inaction. You know, I've often said that I'm a functional slacker. Because, you know, my motto is to always finish what I have to do to do nothing. But I never get there. Because while I think about doing nothing, oh well, there would be this, there would do nothing. But I never manage to do it. Because while I think about doing nothing, I think, oh, well, there would be this, there would be that. But it's endless, anyway.

Starting point is 01:30:11 So when it happens to me to have moments where I have the freedom to choose, it's going to be in the forest, because I feel like when I do nothing, I do something. You know, you feel, you touch, you know, the immensity. And when I'm in the water, ah, when I'm in the water, I'm... I think I'm a little bit like you. Water is an important element. And it's also the vision when we're on the waterfront. We see, we see big.

Starting point is 01:30:38 But that's my dream, but you know it. I told you. It's to have a house on the waterfront. But I know it's coming. Everything comes in time. But you know, I have my little place in Floride, and when you go in, you walk, you feel like you're walking on the water. Because you're direct on it. It's so beautiful there. When I saw the view, I was like, oh no, I made an offer right away. He wasn't on the market yet. But you're a businesswoman.

Starting point is 01:31:01 But you're a... No, but it seems that you have a... I don't know. Well, every time we talk, you really have an entrepreneurial side. I think so, but it's not yet assumed. I think so, and I'm developing it. You still have a store. You have an online store too. I have an online store. Balmy is doing great.

Starting point is 01:31:20 I sell everywhere in Canada, I sell in the United States, and we have a big project coming up this year for that too. It looks like you have the bottom of the business. Did you take risks with Balmy from the start? No. No, because it cost a pinot. I bought Balmy again, but a pinot. It was not expensive. It was a good price for the company. It was a good price, I think. But I don't know.

Starting point is 01:31:44 I went to study, you know, how much it was a good price, I think. But I don't know. I can't go to school. How much is it worth buying? So what do you sell in Balmy? Balmy is Turkish napkins. Jete, dutu, it's really home. And now I'm growing this. Sea napkins, obviously. Home napkins.

Starting point is 01:32:00 Poncho, dress of the field. A lot of business. Confo, home. Nice. Nice. Quality and responsible. In an ethical company. Poncho, robe de chambre, plein d'affaires, confaut, maison, beau, du beau, qualité, éco-responsable, dans une entreprise éthique, fait à la main. Tu sais, je suis en train de développer. Balmy va devenir encore plus gros cette année. Ça c'est en ligne. Ça va être en ligne, mais il va y avoir, il y a 50 points de ventre déjà quand même au Québec. Je suis quand même fière de ça.

Starting point is 01:32:23 Je comprends. C'est quoi ton site internet website? It's balmytowers.com. Go see if it's open. We'll find it. You'll find the shop. Because depending on the period, our hours change a little bit too because there are quieter periods, but we're there every weekend.

Starting point is 01:32:40 Often, when I'm there, I'll tell you. I'll make a story. Hello, I'm coming! That's why you're really... I think you have an incredible entrepreneurial side. Thank you. I have to admit it. I'm going to play with the machine. It seems to me that when you have two companies, it starts to draw quietly. It smells good. Eros and company level.

Starting point is 01:33:00 So, give me four, please. So... Four? Well, yes, I think you're good, because you're still gripped. It's like the rest, it's the asthma side. Yes, I think so. Because I'm in shape, I was so happy to be here, because I took... I've been here for 10 days that I'm not doing anything. And you know what? It made me feel so good.

Starting point is 01:33:22 And now we're going to Vegas. What are you going to do in Vegas? We're going to see the living room for the house over there. For different items for our shop. That's not a suggestion in Vegas. No, I know. Four days. Hey, I didn't take out my Jocule! Not yet! You're good!

Starting point is 01:33:41 So, the pink questions, the questions Eros and Companie, you answer one of those. Are you comfortable in the sphere of intimacy? Do you prefer to seduce or make yourself seduced? What place do you give to emotional intimacy in a relationship? How has your intimate life evolved over the years? Hey, boy, boy! Well... Hum... Well, you know, that's not relevant right now.

Starting point is 01:34:12 Do you prefer... Well, I'm a sadist, it's clear. But it's new. It means that... It's not true. It was a few years ago. Now I'm really calm. because I feel less good. You know, so I don't want to...

Starting point is 01:34:28 But one look, it's easy. You understand? That's it. Or a little kick in the face. Wait a minute! Ha ha ha! Where do you do that little kick in the face? Well, I don't do it anywhere right now. It's very calm.

Starting point is 01:34:44 But you, it's not something difficult for you to take the lead. Men don't come to me. No? I'm not... How would I say that? Maybe because I take the place and when we were young, we said, you're the shy ones, it's not the time to put your asses there. But men don't know, at some point, I don't know, I don't know, you're kidding me. You know, but men don't come to me. I hang out with young people, first of all,

Starting point is 01:35:09 younger than me. Um, not so much, we get along, we go, you know, right, without being in a hurry. It's a little funny to say that. And I don't hang out with men in general. So that's it. So I'm more into seduction, but right now I don't hang around with men in general. So that's it. I'm more into seduction, but at the moment I don't feel like it's

Starting point is 01:35:27 a big deal at all. So I don't know. And when someone looks at me, I'm always something wrong. Instead of saying, oh, you know, yeah. Yeah, that's it. Could it be that sometimes we have a little bit of a hard time and you haven't noticed? In fact, it makes me very uncomfortable.

Starting point is 01:35:44 When I have feelings for someone, I really don't get along. It's ridiculous. It's really embarrassing. So I'm a little uncomfortable. So I say niaiseries. Or if we tried to seduce or cruise me in good French, I was often in a relationship. So I close that. de me cruiser en bon français. Euh, mais t'sais, j'étais pas mal souvent en couple, fait que moi j'te clause ça. Moi j'suis une fille, un gars à foi là. Y a pas de niaisage, j'peux pas.

Starting point is 01:36:10 Ça, j'peux pas. Parce que, tu comprends, parce que les applications, des fois, y en a qui en ont plusieurs en même temps. Ben, ça m'est arrivé d'échanger avec quelques personnes en même temps, mais de friendship, quelques personnes en même temps, non. C'était un à la fois. Mais c'que j'me dis... but at the same time, some people at the same time, no. It was one at a time. But what I'm saying is...

Starting point is 01:36:27 We're going to make a sentence with that. It's for sure. When I talk about... My mother, she says to me, Saskia, you should stop talking. I know you're going to keep it, and it's fine. But we cut it, we don't do anything, except when you suffocate. Because we respect your... Except suffocation, we keep everything.

Starting point is 01:36:46 But actually, I don't have... When I was 14 years old with Pierre, I was 14 years old with Pierre, I was 10 years old with... I'm not... I'm a girl. But from the start, when you saw the level of Eros & Compagnie, you said meeting sites... Yes, that's it.

Starting point is 01:37:02 That's when I split up with Pierre, when we split up and then I went to the meeting sites, because at one point you say, because people think you're going to meet someone in your work, but never. So then I said to myself, well, I'm going to the restaurant next to the house, I was going out, let's say, downtown once in a while, but you meet someone to try to build something. So I tried the applications, so I did Tinder. in the city center once in a while, but you find someone to try to build something.

Starting point is 01:37:25 So I tried the applications, so I did Tinder. We did three rounds of Tinder. So I say hi to my friend Karine. We did a first round. And that was us, who is it? Because we started our first round of Tinder, and I said, I've already talked about it, and we laughed a lot. You know, two beginners. It's a photo with my friend Karine, a beautiful blonde,

Starting point is 01:37:44 in Florida, the two of us together. So we were writing to each other about things in Florida. So we had nothing to do with it, but nothing happened. What we met there, Quebecers, super cool, but that doesn't mean you're on an app, that you go out every night to fuck with someone. That's not what it means. It's a little bit unknown for that. I've had some nice meetings. I've had some sad moments too. I've had some very funny anecdotes.

Starting point is 01:38:10 A guy who slapped me in the last minute because he had hemorrhoids. I've lived things like that when you say, well no. Well no. Tell me the truth. Or you make someone who presents himself

Starting point is 01:38:22 more than ghosting, not fun stuff too. Yes, that's it. You can feel rejected. Ah, it's it, you can feel rejected. Ah, it's more traversal. And sometimes, in fact, often from the first look that you meet someone, you're not quite fixed on what you want or not. To go further, to see that person again, you know, it's quick,

Starting point is 01:38:41 human contact anyway. And then I also learned to say to the other, I'm sorry, I didn't have butterflies. And I don't want to... Well, that's still an art. It's very difficult. To cut that, without hurting the other. Well, it's because sometimes it's been weeks

Starting point is 01:38:57 that you talk to the person. And at the end, I tell you, OK, yes, we had all the... OK, stop, we talk on the phone. And if, I say that as if yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're a well-known personality, you don't know if people are there for the good things. The guy was super curious, but he was looking at me. He was checking me out, everything he wanted was to see me. But I saw him at the shop. You know there are people who just come to see me in person.

Starting point is 01:39:39 And they tell you? Well, yes, they tell me. And what do they tell you after seeing you in person? Often they tell me nice things, but it happened to me that they told me that I wasn't as beautiful as that. Wait, but it's men who tell you that? Yes. Men will see you in person in your shop? Yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:39:56 I've seen that too. That's weird. That's weird. There are guys who tell me that I wanted to come see you in person, that you weren't as beautiful as that. Let's see. How many times have you been there? You put it at the door of your shop. Well, I tell them, you too. Well, there.

Starting point is 01:40:09 You're as beautiful as that, finally. No, but it's free. Well, it's free, well, you know, we're making ourselves say comments on our appearance. You're much smaller, you're much bigger, you're much more pink. Hey, I was starting to make TV. We were at the Zellers, there was still a Zellers in Saint-Bruno. And I was with one of my children and we were looking for a Halloween costume at the Zelleurs, there was still a Zelleurs in Saint-Bruno, and I was with one of my children, and we were looking for a Halloween costume at the Zelleurs.

Starting point is 01:40:28 And then there's a man who comes to see me, Mr. Angers. But you know, we were just leaving politics, it wasn't that long ago, and there were still people from other parties who were really cheering us on. Because politics is very polarizing, so there are some who cheer you up. I think there was some of that. The gentleman came to see me and said, you're pretty much less beautiful in person than on TV. And my reflex was to say,

Starting point is 01:40:53 it's a good thing because you're going to see me more on TV than in person. I love it! And then his wife was like, did you see? Did you see the nectar? You're there, why did you say that? And then they left, the chicanopony. And I was shocked. And at the same time, I was thinking,

Starting point is 01:41:12 it still takes a bit of bad luck. Why are you telling me that? What's the purpose? I don't know why people allow themselves to make comments like that. Especially when they... You know, the limit through social media, it's easy because you're... We know, you're hidden behind your screen. But in real life, you know, it's something...

Starting point is 01:41:31 It happened where a man looked at me and he was like, «Yeah, you're dating his wife, he's like, Michelle!» You know, like... And then he said... And then I said, «Oh, well, well, well, Michelle, what...» And then I get on board, you know, but... Often people are very nice, very funny, or sometimes just mean it.

Starting point is 01:41:47 They'll tell me, you're much more beautiful in real life, but that's not a compliment. We don't know what someone will think. I don't know what you mean. What do you see on TV? That's it. Or they'll often tell me, you're bigger, because the men I've worked with are often not big. Jean-François Descarte-Avis, he wasn't a big boy.

Starting point is 01:42:05 Everyone thinks I'm a big girl, but I'm not that big. Obviously, you're not that big, or you're much bigger. Oh, the TV, you're not doing well. Ah, yeah, I've never seen that. You get told off sometimes. Oh, yes, yes. Big blow from you, the TV. But that Michel, we had finally ended up running with him.

Starting point is 01:42:24 And at the end, you say, well, what are you going to tell me, Michel? I'm less beautiful, I'm bigger, I'm bigger. What are you going to tell me? And finally he got on board. In any case, we laughed with that. There are people who are... But I don't care. Well, the worst is the man I just told you about.

Starting point is 01:42:38 And I was so proud of myself for finding an answer. Because sometimes you find the answer after. I'll keep that one. In the end, I was lucky. I would never have crossed the others. But I think you still have comments. It's going to see you and judging you on the physical. But is it the fact that I was single? Is it that people can afford more comments?

Starting point is 01:43:01 Well, I dare to say, no matter your situation, don't dare to comment. And going to your store, I find that offensive, arrogant. Especially because you didn't even buy it. In addition? I wasn't in a good mood. I'm going to be your bodyguard, I'm going to go and watch you. I find that unacceptable. Well, listen, I take it and I leave it.

Starting point is 01:43:21 You're good, you're able to leave it, but still, you don't want to live that. But in fact, sometimes it created fear. I take it and I let it go. You're good, you're able to let go, but still, you don't want to live that. Sometimes it created fear. When I'm at the store, who's the idiot who's going to drop in? Do you take a lot of importance into the eyes of others? I think, thinking about it, I knew you were going to bring me there, more than I expected. It's sure that as I age, there's a lot of stuff going on. I was talking about my little mouth down there.

Starting point is 01:43:44 I never had a double chin. I only had a double chin. You know, there's a lot of things, but I... Less. But it's for sure that when you work in a shop, and you wash the floors, and you dress with... You know, I'm not here to be cute.

Starting point is 01:43:58 I dress up and I'm comfortable. It could be that people are disappointed. Because when we take pictures, we feel like we're beautiful, and we're the best version of ourselves. Like anyone who takes pictures. Exactly. That's the goal of taking a picture. Often, it's to go and optimize everything you can bring in a photo.

Starting point is 01:44:16 But at the same time, we are not transformed either. It's just that we have teams that are there to go get the full potential. So we don't look like that in the morning when we wake up. But we have the joy of life, we sing well and we have the joy in our hearts. We didn't say everything there. Oh, well, go ahead, continue. What could I say? Oh, that less.

Starting point is 01:44:36 In the sphere of intimacy, not always. If I'm comfortable in the sphere of intimacy, no, not always. Not always. What's blocking you in the sphere of intimacy? No, not always. Not always. What's blocking you in the sphere of intimacy? Oh my God. I don't know. What's blocking me? Because you say I'm not always. So sometimes you are, sometimes you're not. When I'm more involved, when I'm really emotionally involved, in love, I become more fragile. It's funny, isn't it?

Starting point is 01:45:07 It's like I'm afraid that something is not working. Afraid of rejection? Yes, surely. So you're more... you want to please at that moment? I'm going to close myself, I think. And I'm going to... I don't know if I want to please, but you see it's... But you won't take all, you won't emancipate yourself in the same way. No. No. No. But I'm afraid, I'm not afraid. I think that in this life, that's not what I'm going to succeed.

Starting point is 01:45:41 Your intimate life. Yes. And my love life. Your love life. Yes, and my love life. Your love life. But can we succeed in everything in our lives? Well, it depends on how you see your life. Yes, but I have so many beautiful stories. Because you know, what does it mean to succeed in everything? It means that if you see what you do, it's because you look to the side,

Starting point is 01:46:02 but if you look at your way forward and you say, well, look, I did it, but you don't have to see what you didn't do. Do you understand? So much. To see what you have and what you don't have. Because that's a defect, I think, of the spirit. That's what makes us move forward, and it's our survival, to see what we don't have, to want what we don't have.

Starting point is 01:46:23 But there are times when what we don't have, if we live well without it, do we need it? I think that's also leaving things on their way. And you know what, I would also add that we also don't celebrate. I realize that instead of celebrating the good costs, and that's what I was telling you earlier, to fall into the negative instead of the positive, to focus on the good things. Because it's certain that if you think about what didn't work, the list can be very, very long. Because what doesn't work,

Starting point is 01:46:55 there are unfortunately a lot more than what works. Okay, I know, I'm going to get out of here. But you have to celebrate. No, but celebrate. You said the magic word. Celebrate what we have. But celebrating, you know, when I was 50, my daughter Angélia took the floor. And she told me, we're at home because, you know, celebrating.

Starting point is 01:47:11 I'll say, we have a good grade at school, we celebrate. We have a bad grade, we celebrate because she's still better than the other girls. Well, yes! But for me, it's my natural. It's like if I forget what's wrong and I say to myself, what's wrong won I say to myself, what's wrong won't be less good or better or whatever, it will stay there. But on the other hand, my state of mind is changing,

Starting point is 01:47:32 and what's wrong, I will find it easier after. I often repeat, there may be some who will be tired of hearing me say this, but I remember you coming over to my house, Saskia, and you tell me, hey, we a du fun, là, tu sais, on est dans le party où on mange, pis on est dans une discussion qui est vive. Pis tu me dis, hey moi, je vais y aller parce que, tu sais, demain, j'aimerais ça être en forme.

Starting point is 01:47:52 Ah ben non, hein. Ben non, tu pourras pas y aller. C'est parce que même si t'étais un peu fatiguée demain, je veux dire, le moment qu'on a là, qui est comme plein de passion pis il se passe de quoi, pis on échange ou peu importe, est-ce qu'il va repasser? On sait pas. who is full of passion and what happens, and we exchange or whatever. Will he come back? We don't know. I really have the misery of leaving the good moments. I'm often the last part.

Starting point is 01:48:13 I tell myself, I have the chance to live this. Wow, I would like to roll in there. And that, it's in me. But me, cut those moments to be in shape the next day, for me it's really... And sometimes my guests find that, I say, no, it's ok, it's ok, but come in the state of mind that you don't have the time to go... Don't tell me, when you get there, hey, I'm going to go at 9, I almost want to say, go right away, in case we have fun and we interrupt it, because you know, from the moment we know we're mortal, you have to celebrate when it passes. You know, illness, mortality, and even if it's not us,

Starting point is 01:48:51 we lose one of our children, you know? We'll never be the same women again. We may never be able to capture as many, you know, some who have lived through dramas, and even they managed to capture those moments of happiness. So I think we have to get started, we have to open our sensor of moments of happiness. So I think we have to open our capteur of moments of happiness. Which sometimes lasts 5 minutes, but what a good 5 minutes! The best, sometimes. But me, often when I don't want to do something, it's when I forget that I'm not able to get out.

Starting point is 01:49:19 It's like it's over and I have no more energy. But it's because we don't have pressure, we don't have expectations, we live our moment. Like dancing around the island. Or singing. Listen, we're almost making a charity workshop. But you know what would be missing? I'm sure that's missing. And I've already talked about it.

Starting point is 01:49:37 A place where we can go and dance early. Take a glass, dance. Without being seductive, just for fun. But there are some... But there are some who do Latin dance classes. They seem to have fun in there because you're a whole gang of people. But you're learning something. Yes, but after that they come out of a bar where they dance that.

Starting point is 01:50:01 No, no, there's something. Listen, you should do that. I'll And then, listen, you should do that. I'll give you names after, you could try that. And you might even meet someone else. Imagine. Because I'm lucky to have the curves that work very well with South America. Do you like Latin music? I love everything.

Starting point is 01:50:20 Except for the stuff that makes too much noise. But yes, I love all the music. I like dancing. But I wish you could find love. Yes, but I have to reconnect with myself first. Yes, that's it. After that, you may be able to catch up with what's going on. Maybe. Maybe. I let it go. Yes. So...

Starting point is 01:50:44 Optoraiso go. Yes. So... Question optoraiso. Yes. What would the little Saskia think of the woman you became? Oh, she would find her extraordinary. I'm sure she would love her to the core. I'm sure I would adopt her right away, the little Saskia. Because I was really cute, I was really cute.

Starting point is 01:51:00 I had little dolls and everything. And I had the joy of living. I was really a little sun. You know that Saskia means sun too? Oh, I didn't know. So I think she would be very, very proud of me because she made her way in Tabarouette. Because little Saskia was barouetté in Antitie

Starting point is 01:51:18 when she was young. And right now, I'm saving things. There are things that I keep for myself because it's better that way. And I don't want to necessarily relax all kinds of things, but I think she would be very, very proud of me. But she would also tell me, take care of yourself. Take a break. Where are you going to start to take care of yourself? Well, I'm going to do a lot of cleaning.

Starting point is 01:51:43 You know what? I need to do the cleaning of my house. It's a mess. No, no, no, that's super important. Since the water damage, it's not repaired yet at home. So I'm still in the big jobs and I have to finalize that. After that, I'm going to do a big cleaning of my house. And do a cleaning and I think that for that, it's going to do me good too. I did the cleaning of my drawer this week.

Starting point is 01:52:03 It did me good. It's a mess like that. Oh no, it's degreasing me good too. I did the housework at my drawer this week. It did me good. It's nasty like that. Oh no, it's disgusting. I don't find it nasty. What you're saying, I'm the opposite. You know when it's... You're so... Your face is so...

Starting point is 01:52:12 No, because I think about my wardrobe and I tell myself, I have to do this because every time I open it, it looks like there's an energy that's hitting me negatively. But when it's done, it looks like everything is open. I don't know. It's super important, but there are studies that prove it too. But when it's done, it's like everything is open.

Starting point is 01:52:25 It's super important, but there are studies that prove it too. When you put it away, you also do an interior cleaning somewhere. And while you do that, you do a lot of other things. No, it's for you. There's nothing more than for you to do the cleaning of your drawers. Yes, indeed. I found some funny things, but hey. No, but it's because I write a lot, huh. Okay.

Starting point is 01:52:50 So I found, sometimes I write, you know, just notes. And that's why it's funny that when I received an invitation, I said, okay, there's something. It's like a kind of... I don't know, I'm missing words, but you understand what I mean? You know, it's like a house. Well, I did the house in Métier-Roy, but then I found stuff, and you know, with dates, and I remember when...

Starting point is 01:53:11 I knew you were going to ask me questions that were going to lead me to... To revisit that. So, you're doing the housework, and then you said you also did the housework in your surroundings. Yes. So you do a lot of things, you degustate. I'm going to go to the mountains. You know, you were talking about nature.

Starting point is 01:53:29 I have the Mont Saint-Bruno in my yard. But sometimes I go to my tree to make calais. I feed my birds. Do you make racquet? There are nice track tracks. No, I make raclette. Ah, raclette! Because there are nice track tracks in the world.

Starting point is 01:53:42 You know, that's something I would like to do too. Ah, yes, yes. I love doing racquet, really. Let's take a date, alarm number 6. I'm able to do two sports, racquet and kayak. Oh, nice. But racquet, kayak, you see, in the woods, in the water. That makes me feel good. So, hey Saskia, what a beautiful meeting.

Starting point is 01:54:04 Thank you, Kofine. I really think it's a discussion of women, between women, you know, in the game we meet and who at the same time, you know, this quest to find love, you know, in any case to hope for it. I hear, there are so many people who are looking for it. And I'm going to give you a game because we have a new game. Yes! Open your game, it's couples and dating. Oh, I like that.

Starting point is 01:54:27 So there are questions, if you're going on a date, you can ask questions that are relevant, but that are not intruded, because it doesn't come from you, it comes from the game. So maybe it will help you. Can you ask me that too? I can ask you that. Because for real, before anything, this desire right now,

Starting point is 01:54:44 and as I was saying, nothing happens for nothing, it's more about reconnecting impose myself. Because for real, before anything, this desire right now, and as I was saying, nothing happens for nothing, it's more about reconnecting with myself. Where I am, what I want, but love for me, I live it, you know, at large. And eventually, if I become, you know, if this part of my life opens up, well, it will be wonderful. But otherwise, that's it, it's encounters like that that nourish me and make me love even more. Thank you for your great generosity, that's what I want to say.

Starting point is 01:55:09 So thank you to everyone and see you at the next podcast. Bye bye. This episode was presented by Karim Jonquard, the Reference Massage Center for the Skin in Quebec and by the virtual community Marie-Claude virtual community. The Table Game opens your game and is available everywhere in stores and on Randolph.ca.

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