Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - Charles Milliard | Ouvre ton jeu en mode électoral avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: September 8, 2026

Charles Milliard, Chef du Parti libéral du Québec (PLQ)« Ma mère m’a souvent dit: Attends que je sois morte avant de faire de la politique. »Dans le cadre de cette série spéciale « Ouvre ton jeu en mode électoral », Marie-Claude Barrette reçoit les chefs des principaux partis politiques québécois à l’approche de l’élection du 5 octobre 2026.À travers les questions d’Ouvre ton jeu, on découvre ce qui les a amenés à s’engager en politique.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:10:33 Cartes vertes00:31:12 Cartes jaunes00:51:00 Cartes rouges━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Youtube, Crave et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.

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in line with their conviction political, with the ange political that they want to

make the front. So, it's more personal to them. So, I'm

I'm the heart to listen, to see how you're going to be able to react to and for me it's important

to clarify something. When you are you want, because it's what we we're in the discussion

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Today, Today, I'm the chance to receive the chief of the Party Liberal of Quebec. It's still

recent, his implication in politics active. He is chief of the Party Liberal

of Quebec from February last. He is candidate in Offord.

Presentment on his party count 18 deputies at the Assembly

National. So, I talk of Charles Milliard. And I I mean,

I'd ask if he was this souvenir to me, Charles, we'll see the

we're in because when I had two feet the morning, it's that's it's

2009, 2010, 20, Charles went to know in a time to

to come to know to do to do things. He represented at the

time, the group Unipri. So, I'm I'm a hard to see you

to see to see to see so I'm so so I'm content to

the Chief of the Party Liberal of the Quebec, Charles Milliard. Hello, Charles Millier. Hello, Mary Claude Barrett. It's a few years that we've seen

to see a day effectively. Loa had cooley to see through the POM? Well, what's what's going to at this moment

that? Is it tutuoy or we see, Charles? We can't sitoy with pleasure. We can't. Is that, what's what's

what you're doing for Unipri and now where I'm come as chief of the Party Liberal of Quebec?

Effectively, when we're known, I was a port-parole of Unipri, so we've made some of the night, which has been one of the best experience that I've

had had also the picure of the television and the media. And then I have worked a 15th of years I've worked for the federation

of the chamber of commerce, we will certainly to be sure to be a military of the party liberal of Quebec, and

it's been a moment where I had on view to plunge there had a timeing and so I've made this changement that,

effectively, pass to pharmacian to chief of party It's pretty rare. But in meantime, I mean time, I

mean, I'm saying, the Assembly National, it's the House of Pup, there's a lot of people

who do it will be so it so I'm in this decision. So, there's resumed 15

in... But it's what, but it's what the declick for say, okay,

I'm going, you know, because, you were, you're not, you're not, you know, you're part,

I'm present at the course at the Chhferry, it's, it's kind of a a big,

a big, It's a gross part, effectively. I'd say that the declick, is that when I was president of the Federation of the Choms of Commerce, I'd cotoyed the politicians at the journey long. You know the politicians

and you, too, also. And I was made to say, but I was made to say, but I'm just getting people like, you know, in a certain fashion. So, that it was,

it was, these employ at a order of home, and that it was possible for someone like to contribute also. I said, I'd be not peer,

I'd be able to do, I'd be able to do. So, I'm senty very legitimed in the cotoyant. And after that, I

regarded the state of my party, and this need to renew that's important and that's imperative,

according to me, in politics Quebecoise. And my circle of my circle of support, so I'm so I'm

so I'm decided to find the show, but there's always a day you to do you do you're

not a day you're and then you have the last you're in there's a part of so there's a part of

a row in regret, and it's a very privilege. But now, there's you know, is there some of it's going, is there you think you're going to ?

Well, look, I'm not say that all people don't know to say, because first of the first of the year, it's the last year of my life, I've had been

the best of time to the country, I'm sorry to the same of the chamber of commerce of Quebec. Exactly, which is the very

association economic in Quebec, has 125 chambene of commerce. So, so, there pootrines of in these gala at seven hill at Valdear

I've all so it's a so it's a so much so it's a so new so much even at the

time when I'm at the point in I'm going to get to get the entire to our pharmacy so really really after

after I'm after I'm 23 years I'm in my car to to come to to Quebec that's not

not changed so I had this this tattoo that already in my pocket for what I

for what I'm probably I'm all everyone to all everybody on embarked in the dance I think, obviously, I remember

the lunch where I've applied that my parents, and there's a little two minutes of panic, I think. I think that

the parents necessarily say, oh, my God, he choosy not the voice the way the

way of and then, and like all the age of my parents, they're they're always the TV,

the info in continue, and then, finally, it's going to be my first we're going to

talk on three minutes, sometimes in mal, sometimes in sometimes in sometimes in

but I'm think it I think it's not to get to get to get more to do more what's the mean to do you

do they're doing to have to ask you're doing this they're doing that they're doing that the more than every time each year every time each

yeah, it's not not a parent who's fair to to say that's finally he's a si and he would have to say it's sure

that and my mother was a proff so, so my mother had been used to do you know to give to

give to give the advice and at At the beginning, it was a lot of the council, and they comprehend that it's an ensemble of things, and it's a lot of, you know, there's a part of, I suppose a game, but it's not a game,

but there's a regal, there are some rules. There are some of the opera, why there are these people that are the same moment? Well, it's because it's a rea that's a game that is convened. Why,

that, all baseball, all the world, and that's, people talk, and it's, in politics, that it's up with that it comes with some people

that get, with people who make some people who make some you know pertinably that it's not right, but it's an

opinion that's how you how you feel with the critique? Really, really, really more than I

think I'm I think the principal, the principal crain of my friends, the people, it's, you

know, Charles, you've been quite really good a great desert, of the

of check, is, is that, is that you can be able to get able to and I

say, hey, you're resilient, you're tough, and we discover a other person.

So I'll I'm a compliment Obviously It's never It's never pleasant When it's never pleasant When it's always You know, you know

You know, you know We've got a plan of match We've been We'll pursue this plan of match But the view The best of our So, I mean, my view

is to make deray the hour also So, so it's normal But when you accept these regs of the Yeah, and when you know that behind the camera

There are There's just I'm talking about I've got to end up I'm trying to I've crossed Erygues Eryg du M in the room

we had a very good discussion on what he had been in it's already in our lives respective, I have made a little

texto at Ruba and we it's changed so it's important that the people that in the measure of the possible,

there's a there's a whole, we have all the interest of Quebec at heart. It's sure that during the

campaign, there's a there's a little more there's a moment where we we're talking I'm not

I'm not I'm not to see if we're always because logically moment we're talking, the last day where you're not in the campaign.

Exactly. So, tomorrow, the rules are changed, probably. Maybe I'd say that tomorrow, but I'll tell you, today, today, it's still is. Is, you ready to open your job, Charles?

All right, well, So, the card red, it's a question of order personal, because we have to have to discover more, because I think you're interested,

to be to have to because it's not long time with your chef. I'm the little new, yeah, you're the little new,

so you're like a retrapage to have, retrap on us. Rattrapon new. A question The level of yellow, you have all, the five chefs, you have the same yellow, it's the mis in situation.

And the level of rouge, it's more in line with your convictions, the party that you represent. And what's both, you're a joker. So, when you're in my sub-question, if you're trying to answer, you know, on the table, and I pass to the other question. I'm just one. You're just one, but you're not to respond to all the ensemble of these questions, because in the level verre, I'll demand to

to choose five. I'll be to choose one, in which you will answer one, to which you will respond and I'll choose one. So we'll respond to a new question

to move over. So you can, you can't you can't you can't make it back, it's a long time that's very

democratic, it's very democratic, that, we're doing that, I'm sure, so, yeah, I'm sure, thank you,

so, then you can't choose, one, which person was determinate in your in your

part course, how many of time pass you before your experience, what kind of the kind of

were you, how the policy had, entry in your life and in your life, have you

already have you never interesting that I'm really interesting that's I'm going to

I'm I'm sure that's your perfect and I respond Yes,

so you reply so I'm so I say that's really my mother

my my mother my mother who has even extremely inspiring

for me it's someone who is coming of a middle

very class medium, typical in the bas, St. Laurent. Where did it be in the Basin-Lorand? Ah, but you know well, exactly, St. Pacoombe. St. Pac-Ome. St. Pac-Ome, Rivier-Wel,

my father of St. Gabriel, so, these little village magnificent, I mean. I, I think, the most the good day of the sea, and in Quebec are at Rivier-Wel. Oh, yeah.

So, I'm going to pass a good part of my my infancy, I'm lived in Levy, but we're always there. So, my, my, my mother,

to St. St. Pacom, her mother was an at the school of Rand. And my grandmair

had a handicap physical, she had had a relapse of polio so we've been so we're

always, she was always very, very very very fair, my grandbair, but always a

handicap that he had a bit, that had a bit, that was on the Chimene of

the Fair on the line Levy Alifax Baraguinet in English when he traversed

the frontier to New Brunsue. So, there. So, I imagine. Yeah, Yeah,

a lot of absence, but in a same time a sense family, very, very developed

also, and my mother has decided to see the the path of his mother, so to

become an person, also, uh, my my mother has made, uh,

his studies for a proff, and then when my my, my,

my, my father and I had continued, my, my, my, continued his education,

to continue his age, to obtain his birth, uh, to augment the

salary, and, in having more of scolarization. So my mom has always been a family,

but that's a career also. And then I'm when I'm born, my brother has one more

than I'm so I'm saying, I think not that I'm quite to be content of

that, but at the time, she had 30s in 79, so we had not the

young as old as she had had been 25 years? So,

she has she has 36. She has has 36. She's a three years. And my

my mother adore these children. My mother adore to work my mother,

I don't, I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a matter of a lot of but I'm

apart, his acuchement, I think not that my mother that's someone, she had

had been, she had taught in all the school in school, and she's she,

she had been my directress of school, in secondair four, so that's not common, so it's

a other dossier, that's a I'm a directorist, there's, well, there are some people who thought that I had, I was facile or, or other, who'd want to be my enemy. But, so, really, and when I'm born, my father, worked at the Ferry, we're talking about the Chanty Devi, my father, he had been a charpentier menusier, and my father had gone to a period of chomage.

And three months after the accouchement, my mother had said, my father, you know, I don't, I'm doing, I'm doing, well, the little, I said, ah, okay, he returned to work, four months after. to have a acuished. And we have even a video that exists

because Radio Canada did a reportage on the people that were in different at the school primary.

And so my mother wanted to do that for to say that my mother is a woman

extremely a woman very but my mother has made the love of French

also, the teacher, also. So, what she she did do you

have done? There's not the imperfect there in it, again, again,

when I read these textos, and then with the auto correct, I'm not, it's not

like that's not like that's not not so it's not like that's not so she's not when you

when you yeah, no, no, it's very serious, so, so, so,

we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, when I'm

when I'm , you're, it's, it's, it's, it's, this leg, that,

that she made, and that she and she made and so, yeah, really, someone, someone,

someone, she's also she's also, she's for so that the education, it's she's the

thing, she's the time, and I'm talking about, the price of a retrait, you know, the way, the way,

it's, it's, she, she, she, she could be , I'm, there,

I'm, my method, no, my method, would be, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, I'd never have to recount it. I'll have to open my game. My mother, the parents called for say, well, my son, will not, today, at the school. And then, her secretary, she said, well, she'll end up at her

she said, she'll be sure that's not true, I'm sure that you're madly. Come, here, we'll be here, we're talking. She'd have, de facto, the parents for justify the absence of their children, because she had an impression that she'd have been past. So, I can't say that in 2006,

it would be more popular. You don't have been making many. I'm not much, I've got to be I'm going to say a minute it's not a time I'm trying to to go to fake and I'm

feeling like I'm feeling like I'm finally at the midday I'm back to you're going to see what No,

and then the school it's very serious to have the plus not the plus of the diploma but

to pursue a parkour professional and to arrive at something that has always

it's always it's one of my great of my inspiration like that

is a confidante your mother? Yes, we're We're talking We're not I'm afraid If I'm

If I'm in If I'm A pass Difficile We're So we're So we're Not even

Let's put the Sour of The Monde Not even I'm Yeah, I'm Yeah, But yeah

It's someone With who It's someone Who's And it's And over Yeah, And at

At a At a When you You're You're You're You're Like,

You're You're Like, You're Like, You're At all Every year

I'm I'm the son of my parents, physically in latitude, there are these elements that are extremely million, so extremely

the marr, you know, for me, the genetic is at love at the end of every day, I'm the

I'm the coat a little, a little, you know, I'm a lot to tachined the people, that's my

mother, it's the entree, my mother, when I was young, we had to go, at the school,

at the most, she had to the school, I'd have, I'd like that to go to the piece of her, because it's not

to be the thing I'm going to like to do it's a little because I'm going to there's a little there's a in the parents

present. They're at their view again. Okay, they're at Levy so they're going to they're doing

they're going, in the next they're going, they're going to they're going to be able to be all the day, I've got

to get to a lot today, there's a someone who to be able to me want to and he's you,

it's you, the mayor of Charles Miliiard and congratulations and she I think that's what I think. What I think is, it's

it's a re-energize. You know, for your parents, it's like if there's something that's going to happen. But of very preenant, you know, it's like they're going to do with them while.

Malgray, or in fact. But if you go to the post, they're on top and the industry, the people, the people, the family. I've had a name that's a little unique.

Rar, more rare, well, as soon as soon as we're in a million, I was in a fight in the Camoraska recently for the 1715th

anniversary of St. Pacoom and there were there were plenty of people who they were going to me to say,

well, you know, finally you have made on the map with our family. Yeah,

because we don't know that sometimes but when you're in politics active, and the

chief of a party, and other, and even the candidates is the same thing,

it's the family is like implicated by default and it comes they're

they're they're I mean, when we were in politics, I mean, my parents, my father, my father had

not had been not done over on the TV and there's got and got to and say, if someone was a mal

of Mario, my father, it's an angel, it's a person, no, no, no, but, you know,

my friend, I think, to my family, to me, the family of Mario, is, all the world

is stressed, all the world view that intensely we, we impose something when we're present in politics.

By, I was, I'm, I'm anxious to their annonsed that, because they know they're very well,

they're doing they know, I'm going to my time, I'm going to say, I'm going, when I'm going to talk to talk

to do it, so, then I'm not attended, and I think that it may be able to live an

other way, and, obviously, she'd be always the way, but she's that I'm

really that there's still, she's more content and , she's , I'm In other than that, in a lot of the most

it's what I percho the telephone, I can't... Well, she's very far, we're anticipating for the other but perhaps she's

like she's like, it's a relant of energy. Yeah, and it's a sure that when she's sure that when she's she's sure that

she'll have a negative, she'll find that she'd she's my she's my she's my so it's not

she's not the father so, she she's called how my mom? Liz. Well, salue,

please. Okay, I'm going to ask you to ask a minute, oh, but it's in time to talk to

talk about to be there how much how much you pass before your screen? Much too.

And that is one of my resolution to change that, we're at the way of the

campaign. I have the intention to do it to do I'm sure that's

a person, I'd say, the people of my age, we've not been not been

ever with that, I've got to In which, she's right? Yeah, it's a lot. You know, you know, you've known.

I've known the telephone with a few, you know. Me also, me also, and the internet, and they rackroach, you know, I call it. And then, it's a bit of a modem. Exactly. But I was just too big of modem. I mean, I was just a good word of them. I mean, I've been to see what I've been to have an ordinator, and it. Well, brief.

All right. But, we're past too too too de course. And we're, we're finally by developing, even if we're of people very informed like you and me, we're going to

we're going to what's the what's going to the rest of the social, so the best things that's not bad

show, I'm not in the victimization. It's really quit that, and I remember the little bit,

when I go to get a little bit of sometimes I make a judgment there that's a question, that's

that's a question that's what the people are that's a judgment that's positive or

negative. I'm my grand passionn of lecture. I'm the lecture, it's my

Meyer Myelover My Life, I've never Kitted in my life. I remember 12 years, and read the little romance

frissons, that we used at the time, that's what you you're going to never, never quit. I've had been in the way,

I've used to tennis, I go to baseball, I've collected some of hockey, I've done to play a lot of stuff, but

that's never quitted. But it's what's your book that that's marked in your life?

Well, in the same when we're talking, when we're talking, they know, they nom that because

it's a classic, but it's classic for a reason. I think the most grand book that's ever written to make it

written to be the miserable. It's an story exceptionalness. It's an story, I'm talking about

and it's really been me to search and the comedy musical the film is coming to give up

other colors to that. It's kind of a great story of the humanity, you know, of a

person, Jean Valjean who has a who has a little that's in life, who

finally by his descendants finally by redororre the name. There a context historic

to all that, and there's a plume that's exceptional. So, then I'm sorry it's a lot. So, it's that I'm saying

it's kind of, but it's a but it's one of the grand romance. But, you know, a other classic the Fykeh,

it's an excellent romance, and it's a romance that's a woman who was the life at the

time, I was a great-be at the school of the time, you're at the time,

you're at the time, the same age than you, there are there were people who had not manned

there's there's a way of the way of the you know, I think it's a point of New York

that's a new new and it's a aid to understand where we come, like a

society and like that it's a 50 years it's absolutely absolutely our

our absolutely not the same we're and we know we're

we're you know I think to my grand grandmother Angela when you

when you had deced to be a second and I regret always to not have

enregistrated, to her life. But all she she wanted, is that these females don't have seen, she'd be married

you know, at the time, but it's like you're like, she's not sent she'll, and today, you know,

there's been a great evolution and it's right that's what you say, you know, to be the thing,

and that's fundamental. The sense of the story, I think that we're part of that much,

and I'm not always to be a fan of history, but it's It's so important to

understand what what's the past is a passion that's always but it's always that's true. It's not not that you're

not sure, but on a base personal, but on a base of society also. Yeah, but yeah, but you know,

I remember the Guinantel who was to come and to get to the people, and I'm don't know

what everyone know, I'm not sure that you know that's the first time you're there can

still, but it's important to understand where we're I'm doing a party that exists for 160 years.

The Party Quebecuer exists for 50, but it's a party that's important also in the history

of Quebec. The young who milite there, is they know how they're going to to come to

the beginning of Quebec? Well, it existed not at the year, it exists, but it

existed before it was the last, it's been 20 years, that's that's

that's someone who has been the people who the people the young the

people, what it what's the of all this. If I come to the question of the screen, have you

have you the impression that you read more at cause of the screen? Yeah. And that's one of the deception,

so you remember that you have to be to do you know, at all the times I'm on TikTok I'd

me would have me over a good book. And a good book, it's a book, it's

really, I'm really, I'm a good, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a good,

I'm a term of lecture, I'm to do you, history, a story, romance, I like

So I'm very curious In your auto bus In your office, there's there Is there are There are these books? It's wrong

I've done My sack to live I'm in So I'm I've seen There's a series That's

Now, on each of the region of the area of the region So I'm made four

The Camoraska La Morici Levi Lestri I'm also the Constellation The Chavale

That's a new Romance Quebe that I That's last and obviously it's concept

but the biography of John Lossage who came to out of a professor by a university lavall, so I'm saying, if it's not me that's not me

if someone that's not really, it's good that's possible. But the books on the different regions of Quebec,

it's fun, because we're going to be going to be there's there's there's a carpourer

and they're not a car and who don't discover the Quebec as much as you know in the last

years. I've made 14 schools in part of 14, wow. Yeah, you know, you know,

When you know, when you say, when you say, well, you know, I've been, you know, I've been to be in the Basin-Lorrent, in the region in Monteregis, but I have an impression when I go to where, to be a little bit to be in a little,

you know, you know, I know, you know, I said, I'm a little, we're saying, I've made some of the things, I've got that I've been

quite things, you know, that's, you know, it's like, my choice, but that's, but you're adapted, but I'm adapted,

absolutely, and when I, you, of my life, I'm saying, Colin, it's the

Quebec. I've always been in line with the Quebecers. If I'm the field red of your

life, what's the thing is the thing you do do you do? It's the relationship. As a

pharmacian, my view is to be to be sure the people, the government, it's to

get to to go to the country, to get, I'm I'm not when a

day that I'm a day, a day, I'm sometimes in sometimes, it's not I'm

know, I'm, I'm not, there's In ageing, I'm more Beasance, I'm more Beaux of Solitude At the occasion

But my My more My more It's the day With the people It's a day To learn, to read,

to learn to learn to listen to the people, it's not cliched, what I'm, and it's

clearly something that I've developed in pharmacy. In pharmacy, in the fact, the people are with a problem

and a problem, and you know, you have to you return with another emotion and the information.

So, the spectacle is directly before you, and you have that you've got to find out of a reaction. And I've

used the privilege to be able to see the to do you know, during two sessions to teach to young,

the techniques of communication, how to do the accoutive, how to do the reflation, the reflet for trying to

get to get to the information. And that, finally, it's, finally, it's also

in politics. So, I know, we're certain that the politicians talk about but it

can be the quote also. But, you know, the, the, it's a

language. Yes, the silence is a It's a It's a word also Yeah, it's It's a There's a lot of There's always

But when you're in a presence of the We're talking We're not quite that The person It's a reason It's a part of The discussion.

There are some There's a lot of Absolutely But it's a So it's actually So that's It's always If you're

If you're You know, you're You know, I'm You know, I'm I'm going to Yeah, And I'm often in the plus 10 plus 15% in the last month, so, of time past.

So, but it's really the, it's really the resos social. And before, I'd like a spectator. And now, well, I'm just an actor of the social. You've got to say the full commenter? Never. And that's bizarre, because before I'd have been more prime, as we'd say. There's an espouse of resilience that's installed,

and we'll see what it does in the campaign. but that I'm I'm fired to me to be able I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm offoot

but not not no more it's not to be in the moment. But I'm in the it's not made for all

the world. That's not to say today to you know, it's not for all it, it's

a lot of it's a lot of it, it's a certain timing in where you're in your time you're

a lot of it's a part of Hey, I understand. Yeah, but I think in the campaign, you're more to be able to hear.

Because, you know, because you know, because it's, because you know, you can't have some of the reaction, you know, that's the more,

you know, you're more, you know, you're much, you're talking to do it's a direct. Exactly.

And, and it's that that's that my love, I'm, to be a something on Facebook,

that's whether whether it's something to say, the shaker at St. George De Boas, it's more

paying for for me, this contact that direct. First, it's rare that someone will be

to be a distance if you're at the time and you're a lot of it's a very of the

there's a yeah, there's a but it's but not, the Quebecoe it's a man,

it's just that just that if you on your computer in a in a there's

there's a there's that you're a little every day of a bit with a

very or two, it's not not good, it's not good, it's not Nive,

Joan, Charles, you will, you will, let me get to be in your time, you know, there's a

time, you know, there's a time, I'm about the time, it's my time, and I'm doing because I'm doing,

because I'm doing, I'm not, I'm not to ask, the question, but it's that's not

my impression, I don't know if it's like that, but, you know, the tablet, the computer, the telephone,

all, all the time, and while when you do it's, and it's, it's not of my

sense for the your brain, you know, you know, we're too solicited, and our, and our young, all this time, I'd say, like, I'd say, like, 10 years, but before, the young, all, they'd pass out to the world. So, now, I'm not saying, it's not, it's not

more, you know, for the parents, you know, plus they're captivate than all, it's not easy for the parents. If, we're saying, more than time, on screen, yeah, but it's compensated, you know, and the parents have no less and more than more time, also, because they're, they own

their proper career, their own ambitions, and their own telephone to them to say, the parents, we're not not always the parents, we're not the way, so

there's kind of something to do so, so, I'm going to see the four questions. Okay, you're at the

exterior of the country, someone, you know, you're doing to you, you respond what? You know,

you, you do a consult in urgency for an issue to be to turn to where? The politicians,

politicians, say often that they are or they're malcited? What am I'd you rectified? If it's the case and a elector

you demand, if you're on the left or the right, what's that's my question? And that, all the chief had the

same level. Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right, I'll find this I think the politicians

say that they're often that they're mal-cited, what am I like, would be rectified? Well, first,

I don't me victimize not. And when we say that we're mal-cited, the most part of the time, the politician, it's perhaps not quite not quite a bit well. So, I think the problem is the messageer, it's not the message. So I think that the fardo of the

proof is on the politician. To always say, I'm always cited. Ah, and then the chronicer has not quite, you know, I've got to get to a chien, if you're not content. Okay, so you're critic by that. I'm a critic by the part of that. I'm a criticise by a part of the victimization

of the politicians. So I think that it's a matter public. So if I had wanted that my ideas be not discussed I've just to rest

to show I'm going to so I'm going to I'm sure there's a subject where you're

saying that it's totally that it's that's it's either or it

and one of some of the question that's the question of the French I've passed

how many time to talk to talk to my of my infance of my

love of the language of the language that is not It's not important. It's not even

not that I'm shocked. It's, because it's the antithes of what I'm Why do you think? Why do you think that's like that's a bad perception?

It's a mangue to vote. It's because it's the game political, because you know, I'm a party who is against

other parties who want to be viewed as more nationalists and plus this, and that I respect that.

But I know very that all the people who have accused in the last me, to not be there for defend the

French, not think not that a second. So I think that a little, I feel that a little bit of damage. So what I rectify would, is that, I'm going on politics, for defend, protect, to protect what, the Quebec, is a nation distinct.

I mean, I want that rest in the Canada, but it's a nation francophone. I want to the immigrants learn the French more rapidly, in here. I want to respect all the world, but I want to be that

300 years, we're celibed encore, the quality, and the quantity and the quantity of French in America of the North. And I'm convinced that the four

other chiefs think the same for them. There's person in this moment, there's no any other there's a

question, and I'd like that this space of a piece of the game that between the parties.

We're, we're talking who want to go to go to go to more more of money every year,

and the young who decroge of the school. we don't of who who can't the most

we like to the first you're the of the first of it's a question, it's a long that's a

long time, it's a all the whole it's not a discussion political, but in the last year,

the government actual is to be the champion of the French, but even the language

has said, the thing, it's a point of it's a time to be clearly,

so it's that we have done not so it's not you don't so,

and let's the people, let's the people, let's the Again, again, it's not a question

to be mal-cited, but it's something that's important for me to rectify because it's what I'm in

the way, but the politics, it's a game of the idea, yeah, but there's a

card that no, no, but you're a good but it's a way,

but it's it's important of just to have some of, we can, we can't we can

we can't make, we can't, we're I'm also I'm the kind of, you know,

you're that you're that you represented, And it's not that we're, it's very, it's very uncomfortable, I think, this situation, of what we're trying to find to cry, and what we're profoundly, to prove who we're, you know, there's something there that in, that's not natural.

It's for that you have to rest the most authentic possible, but it's, but it's accept that we're going to put in some cases because the people who are people who are listening, maybe the journalists, the analysts, have X number of minutes for so far an idea on, the people are not just saying to talk about, The people are going to work, have been their own, they're doing

lunch. So, I understand. I'm a lot of 24 or 24 or almost. So, the people are in new me and they're all,

it's for so that's for that I'd say that these, these initiatives like the time, it's interesting, because it's

to see who are the liberal, so that's the guy, that's the guy of the economy, that's the guy that's the guy

that's the guy that's he says, but I'm more than that, and it's so it's more diversified.

So, you have to transcend this and you have to restate in politics. It's so it's made

by our people, we're doing, some of our attacks, and it's, and it's, their role also.

So, you know, to get that your way, yeah, the plus possible,

and in campaign, it's the demonstration ultimate of your capacity or not to

do that, because it's always to embarked in the game to the other, and to

say, well, I'm, I'm the first to say, and sometimes it's a play a not always the

team, but I'm going to make a lot of my time, I'm at the same, the CPE, it's one of

the more great advances that we have had in social in Quebec, and it's Pauline Marwa who has done that I've seen

that I've been in for that, and I'm glad for that, because it's on leg, we've done

we've made we've done also, who are not always not always but it's important to,

I think the people are that, the humanity behind that and that we're not, we're not

we're not the cassettes and that's that we're able to recognize that we use all the good of

the people, but with the people, they're that's that's they're

they're they're doing they're that's, that's, that's, yeah, it's,

and I think to every day, to try to so, so, so I'm so,

I'm sure, I'm I'm, I'm the most authentic possible so, there's

some things I'm mention it. Some I'm going to repeat some because the people have been able to

repeat. So, we're going to repeat. Okay, but we can't say that you'll say that's, because that,

there's a lot of people who are saying, no, when you're at some of it, we've said to know, I've said a lot of time, but I

did it too but I'm not there. So, is that I'm not to have the person to, you know,

I think it's important to not have to have been to be able to because to understand a message,

you know, it's all many times many times, he captains not our attention and a moment a day

so I think a chef who has a engagement that's the people who have always always have

always have the impression that's the first time it's the first that's the first time that's important

for her. The capacity to inspire and to repeat is important because you have the message and the message

render and in campaign and in the whole I mean we can't be able to

get 150 promise probably we're not the And, secondment, there's a limit to what

the world can't be able to I'm in like, we're going to hear of the first of the

first year, and his and his view, it's going to make in place on place on the program,

yes, but it will be probably 60% of time, to gerry things that

we're going to be that we're going to know what, we're so we're also,

elir of the people for their style, for their capacity of judgment, not just

on their program, When we have elued, I don't know, Mr. Leguant, in 2008, person, you know that there had a pandemic. So, we've seen an old style of leadership to make up place. I don't know an example that all the people, to all the whole world can't be able to see.

So, we don't know what the way to do this is going, and then after it will be able to do. Donald Trump, is not the sole protectionist at Washington. What's going to be able to people also on their capacity to judge and to bring the good decisions? But you know, you know, to arrive in politics where, you know, you've got these conciergey,

you have some of the politicians, you know, there's there, there's a lot of, you know, there's the party liberal, who are there, who, they're repeal, the continuity. You know, there's a, you know, there's a lot of facet. How do you live with that? There's a lot of clients, in fact. We're going to say like that.

Oh, you're a client. Okay. There's a lot of party-pronantle. Yeah, there's a good, there's a good of the fundecer. There's a good of forniser to but I'm going to

say in a other measure at the FCCQ it was the same you know, you had all the directors of the corporate, you have the company,

you have the CA, my council of the FCCQ there was 60 person there to. So, then at all the pharmacies

proprietor were also the members of the council of administration. So, I've always in the structures

where there were many of many people with with many of opinions. I've always been like, so I'm not to depiesized, but now, I've been able to be the league major. Well, and then you're the candidates.

Yeah. The candidates, it's something, because they're also, a part of their life there's a lot of time. They've got to they're saying, they're for ported the color

of the Party Liberation of Quebec in your case. And you want to and you're their chef, so when you're talking, it's like if they're talking, so,

yeah, so, is what you see this pressure, I just? I feel, I'm not, but it's I'm not,

I'm not stressed by the good things. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What's the stress? It's a question.

It's more sometimes it's some of the things that me stress than the functions. You know, like I'm

a chief of a party political. There's a like I'm to say, of things to get to do, we embarked

in a campaign electoral. It's not that I'm stress. It's more, let's come, let's come,

a interview where he's something, I'm saying, ah, that's it's not to the

whole it's a it's a it's a pre pre of the micro, so it's not not more

more advanced, but it's not more easily general, because if you know, when I've been a chef,

it would be a tsunami of responsibility, and I'm not surprised of that when you live you know, you realize

other things, and those who are the chief, if there are the chiefs who have a question,

you know, there's there's a people who can understand that, but in many time, it's

a much more a privilege than a trouble. You know, sometimes I'm doing this

time, and I'm going to be you've seen this person, tell person, you've seen who are the

person who is when you're in to say, you know, when you know, it's something, because these people, you know,

because these people there, you know, two months, didn't, that's saying, well, that, I'm sure to be confier the

Quebec. You know, it's, it's a, so, it's a question, two, three, nisery,

You've done You've done in the course to the chaffiry A party liberal Yeah, it's true, but national, no.

D'allure, we're three chief, I think, that's the first first time, and you have three debates. Exactly.

It's kind of much, yeah, yeah, it's quite, and it's a lot of, but it's important, the people, it's a redos,

and that's a lecture also. That's the preparation, also, yeah, of the comprehension of the

comprehension, yeah, that's something, so, so that's stress you already? Well,

I just a moment a febril for all the world. I can't say that we're going to take that with... Yeah, and it's a moment of charnier

also. I'm still trying to be quite a question. You're the bad attitude. You're the same October.

I'm going to have never done my life, a deba it's an anguassant. I'll I'm going to

ask you, because I'm... I'll just I'll just come here there's just on there's just

people who have never made of politics who you're doing that, you see the full, I don't know how to explain that,

but I'm appell when I'm appell when I'm appell because the interaction with the fool, it's powerful, it's so that

that's not, for that's to meet. It's to get the rest it's like it's of the communication

pure, so, so you talk to the terrain, of the people, the election,

that's the election, it's for that you do that. For that that you do that to make that to make

a advance of Quebec, but it comes with what you're doing with all the rest. It's a lot of, you know, we've got to accept it. But if someone

on a scene to have a full and and is not bad, well, the politics is not for him. That's certain, because it would

be the same to do the thing with the people, and the fact that these people emit an emotion, don't do

the time for you, it's that, it's a, it's a, it's a secret of the politics. That's what

you nourire. Exactly. Okay, you have consultant in urgency for an issue of health, you're in where? Well,

it's going to it's a bit but I'm going to be able to do you know Okay, you're your first,

then you're and more, and then, with what's with the new powers of the pharmacians, that the

government that's able to know, I'm able to know how it's been long time that there's been

a lot of a pharmacy can be a good dispatch, I'd say, in a good French, So, it's sure that I'm

a leg of the pharmacy, I'm going to to go to the emergency, but my response, in fact, is probably not at an urgent.

Because for me, in my head, the urgency, it's really a pat of a case, or it's really something of,

where you can't breathe, or your heart. But I'm honestly, I'm notintment, I, see,

I'm talking to I'm in, I think that terrible, Carmen, you know, when we, you know,

when we're, we said, okay, so, that's a, okay, that's a case of urgency.

I mean, there's a moment, I was a case of I never thought to call the ambulance. Because we'd say, is, is I'm saying, is

that I'm trying to die, no? And then after, we said, but you're going to be in an case, but I'm

going to see when to get to an urge to find, you know, really, a movehance, really, a good,

and he's attended hours in the ambulance at the urgence before we give an first calmment.

And then, you know, it's a fracture and a multiple fracture. But it's a cause of urgency but it's a

case. But there's a but it's a but I'm saying, it's that, but I'm saying, it's going to be

to be able to the pharmacy and the pharmacy has the more power because it's Carmen's the more simple

and there's there's there's a lot of there's there's there's and we're

there's and we're a communication, he knows, we're not that I'm that's we're not,

we're I would have not not know that you know, to be able to ask a question to be in a question of,

you know, there's a reason, there's not, you know, because they're saying, well, it's probably just my digestion,

but we're going to go to go, effectively it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, not be severe in the judgment of our criteria, because we're

a, and then if we if we're there's, there's, there's, but, but,

but, there had been , but, there is, an inequality Quebec-a-day-a-to-there-a-to-do, there's a lot of a lot of a reflexe

to go to an emergency. I'll never by soci of these hospitals, but I know very well that three-fourth opiote in Quebec, where we know

that the treatment is the more and the people and the people that, while that in New York, example,

or I'm, I'm I'm just at St. George Deboz recently, it's difficult at every weekend the urgences debord, and there

plenty of people. There's a day we're going to be here I think we'll get it will be but I think

we're in sure we're going to make a because we're in going to get to work on the access to a professional of

the health while I'm not there's a medicare in this campaign here because I will be disorganized it.

It's impossible. It's impossible. And, I think, I'm going to the structures of the public.

It's not the solution. The people have souped these new organigram in health. I think

that you have to play on the first line. I'm talking the pharmacian, but I I'm also, and I'm not

devoled all the program political, but I think to put a platform public of tele-santed to Quebec. I think there are plenty of consultations that can be in virtual,

like it's in the sector private in this moment. And that it's going to, I think, in our people who live in the

village, like, an example, in Belshace, and there, they have to have to have been to be in line, he'd have been

a day of job, he has the stationment, to have to have to have to get to the factors that's,

freen the exodus of our region and to help we're in obviously,

we're not a fact of there's, but there people people who are not in

the case, that's that you're being your would be pretty much

well, yeah, because we would be because I'm I know, I'm a

kind of that have like the telemedicine I'm I'm a bit jealous

there, you have a rendezvous a day there's a morning, and there a prescription

that comes that it's can't because there plenty of things. But I tell

I said, I see put where we're in and it's that I'm that I'm for the

people people who it's not that we're a system of the public, but it's not clear.

So, so, so, I'm sure for the first of the line, but I'm

an electric by the other, but there's a question, there's there's kind of there's

a crisis of the population. But the people who can't be not hesitate to

to be to be if he thinks on having before, again, we're

just there and to be to say, to go to go to go to finally, the next way,

that's the way that's the point of the way that's that's so, that's so that's a new,

I'm sure, you know, to turn, because it's a crisis of panic finally, that's, then there

there's, there's, but there's, there's, who have, there's, who make, ,

they're, people, on the line, the line, to, when you, when there's, when you're,

if you're, if you're something, a problem of the first time you've felt some of the

symptoms, and it's a urgent, it's a urgent, for me it's evident, but there's not an equality

of the time at the time that's the level Ruge, Charles, you've got, you've got, you've got,

you're four, you're only at one, at that. And, that's you that's the you're going to

it's always, and I'm talking, I'm afraid, I'm going to me cranked, I'm decranke, but it's

because I think it's probably that's At the hospital, you're like, the final, you pung the virus that are in the cell of the attend. And we're finished

by preempts for a key practically, yeah? Oh, you? You've attended just 18 hours? Yes. Yes.

Yes, an elastique sitire, but during the time that, we're not more in the urgent. You're saying, we're not the way, we're doing

that. Personally, no, I'm I'm trying, I'm pretty well. If Paul St. Pierre

Plamondon has to do you make to make a country, is you will you rally?

Have you That, all the That's not That's question That's No, no So have you A Mallease

To talk to The 3rd Out of the Grand Region of Quebec And after six Month We've talked

After six months After six months In time After six months, Are you The Defense of the Language

French That you Prometed That's You're You're talking So you're So in

So, We're We're So, So, So I'm going to then I'll probably and then you'll put it on

after and then I'll respond No, no, we'll respond just to a question at this level that Yeah, well. Well, it's made pleasure when I'm a

Democrat, I'm going to respect the decision of the Quebecois. I'm, I'm permit to to respond, but I'm convinced

that the Quebec is more served in the Canada but the choice that the Quebecers that are, that's a party

Quebecer, a other party, I'm new to Quebec, and I'm intention to mourn to Quebec. So for me, it's my

patry, and I'm but we're going to get. So, it's all right. Have you a malaise to talk to the third-line? The answer is no, and I've done everyone on page, I've done all the missions possible and impossible.

But it's a reactie, by example. It's a reactie, yes. It's more here than it, effectively. It's a dossier, it's a zone of sinister, this this is a dossier, it's a point.

And I think the project is not the third-line. I think the problem is not the third-line, it's the

promoter. I think we're having to have lost the credibility in the dossier. It's still a point also.

Now, we don't know, we're not, we're not, you know, for the third line, that's what?

Oh, my God, it's because it's what? No, but that's it's just it's not,

it's not, the third- line, it's not the third- yeah, but, you know,

if we did it's a voxpopply, what's the third one? You're quite right. You're right. Maybe we're not 100%. So, the idea is to have a

third point that relayed the South of Quebec at the Rive North, because the two Pons, I'll bring that from the depart,

because the two Pons of Quebec and the port are very often to the other. So, it makes a concentration

of the congestion and there's a development important demographies on the Rive Sud of Quebec, and there also

a development in the east of Quebec, which makes that all the traffic of the East of

Quebec that's the only one of the whole lot of the point, it's on the point of the

people who are going to be able and it's important. First, our finance public, we're not in the

good direction, so I understand a lot of people, to be reticent to that.

I think you have been over a partner public-pribe it's far long time that we

do it for P.L. But, I'm I'm going to a project of the future. I'm

project in 15 years. I'm think, is we that the city of the

city of and the Rue Rappellate will continue to grow as well there's

there's a lot of because it's going to probably too soon. So,

if we have this ambition that, if we want to have to do more

to get to there's there's there there's there there's

there's so I'm that it's it's with the sector the first thing is the first thing

is to doce the case, because the people of the region are completely blazied

from the vowsy and the violation of but I know that it's a project that's a

time that's never consensual to Quebec. D'Hare there are many of many of many of

people, we're there, but I want that the electorate that should be

that I'm that but I'm not in any different any different

in, in, in, you know, the reality environmental and the reality financial of

Quebec. And I'd terminate in saying that the transport in common, it's extremely important.

And to talk about just talking, it's not just talking to the two first of my life, I've been

the first of my life, I've been to do recently, there was there was not the reflex

of transport collective? Is it because there not an infrastructure or because the world had, it's not so I think the people of have been also

their own work, we have a duty of transport collective. So, that, there's a third-line-law, there's a lot of a capital national living,

that's a boom incredible, it's a lot, it's a lot of people, for me, it's not a sense too, so.

So, there's a favor of that. It's a book of circulation. So I have no problem to talk about But I hope, and I'll termin it on

that's on, that's true, that will be able to construct on a pond at Quebec and Levy, as I hope that it will not only on the other question that is the referendum. Because the service public in Quebec, we've

talked of education and of the health. That's pretty 60% of budget, 65, 70% of the budget Quebec- it's extremely important, and there are these great work to do

there to do, and our economy. So, I'm present in politics for you're talking to talk to these subjects and I'm

I'm going to also be able to so we're not just put a microscope on a few do and it's polarised for that.

Yeah, I'm trying to it's a but I'm yeah, and I will always respond to questions that

we pose but I'm right at the debate I'm going to talk about during two hour.

Well, it's because I think to talk to talk the most the most of people

and that we can't because the people who want to the third line, have the same

in the same in the other than the other sector. There are who have to go to

go to go to go their family to their own to go to and go to work

effectively. Yeah, there maybe they're there and they're not, you

know, they're not they're like, because I'm talking, I'm talking to all the

people, you know, the fact that our young adults, not necessarily the way

to have not necessarily to be able to be able to be able to be able to would be a choice, but they don't

the way, and they have a salary, you can't, a revenue, for me, it's no any sense,

that we're that's, because it's an inquieting for plenty of things in our people. Our young,

I, I, I just, I want to I want to I want to I want, I want, I want,

I want, because I think when we have a diploma, it's a professional, a back, a matreise, we augment,

our chance, to have the major conditions of life, to have a major network, to have a better

to get to their life with not too debt. So it's important that there's some more, we propose

in the role to remuner the stages in the public. How's that the young that are that are

doing the staff and are paid in the private? And the people who decide to be enseignant

or infirmier, they are not remunerer, it's not valorized, and after we pass

our confidences to say that these people, it's the pearl of Quebec, and it's so important. So, we we're remuner it.

It's an gross engagement. It's one of our most gross engagement. So these people will be able to pay their loyheye and

partire a little in the life. And the third thing is to have access to a property. For those who they're

not to be not. No, but you're not. But when you do it, but you can't, but in plus,

often the young, there's, there's a chum and a blonde, and there, even at two, they have had

a difficulty. And, not at the Centralville of Montreal. I've I've crossed people in Morici

who said, you know, we're 207 years, we're the two and we're in back to get to get a

house to work here. But even being a locator. And it's fool, I'm saying, well, I've been

long time that I've been my apartment, but when you look, the price in function of the

revenue, hey, the portion that's that's that's that's that's

it should never be to get past, at least, let's let's 25, 40% It's the revenue.

It's the cost of the economic that we had to sell. How we're going to separate the points of tart? We're not there and there's no there's been able to say I'm going to cut it in the budget

loisier. I'm excuse me, the loisier, it's important for to survive, our health health also. You can't say,

okay, well, finally, I'll be able to pay that, but I'm not to get to the restaurant of the year. So, there's

there, we have we're like we've come redone to give an support, in the case, to give, to give,

Exactly. But, I mean, in a little I think I'm in courageous to see

in a policy in 2022 with the situation economic and that, but also all the about the

communications, the social, all I want to the campaign, that it's

at the heart of your attend, that's going to be in your

and that your parents, be proud of you to be to the time.

Yes, I'm just at the vote but thank for that so

the human and the people are the people are the because at the base, we're all of the human and we're

to try to make the new. Absolutely, it's that the base and we're trying to do you know

for other humans. Exactly. So, so much, Charmili, it's a pleasure. Thank you.

Thank you.