Ouvre ton jeu avec Marie-Claude Barrette - Éric Duhaime | Ouvre ton jeu en mode électoral avec Marie-Claude Barrette

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

Éric Duhaime, Chef du Parti conservateur du Québec (PCQ)« Je voyais à travers les yeux de mes parents qu’ils savaient que c’était peut-être la dernière fois qu’ils me voyaient. »Dans le cadre de cette série spéciale « Ouvre ton jeu en mode électoral », Marie-Claude Barrette reçoit les chefs des principaux partis politiques québécois à l’approche de l’élection du 5 octobre 2026.À travers les questions d’Ouvre ton jeu, on découvre ce qui les a amenés à s’engager en politique.━━━━━━━━━━━00:00:00 Introduction00:11:13 Cartes vertes00:44:18 Cartes jaunes01:03:44 Cartes rouges━━━━━━━━━━━L'épisode est également disponible sur Patreon, Youtube, Crave et les plateformes d'écoute en ligne.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to O'ReTonJew. We're in a week very particular, because we're in mode electoral. We've decided to invite the five

chief to participate to O'Voteon Go, and they and they have accepted to come to to sit around me. I'm very,

very fair of that. Because for me, the elections, it's super important. We're all

all right to vote, in a vote, one person, and we have all the right to vote. Now,

many, many, many, many, many, it's not. Maybe that's

to know the chief what they know, how they see, the Quebec of the

maybe, maybe an lighten will be and you have to go to go to

and you want to and you can't and you and you have to first,

they're a choice that is not easy. Especially I think in two

twenty-six I've made the other many many where the

social were more present. So, today ported a party

with the militants, with the people, with the electors, the electress to promen

to travel the Quebec, really they have many a new to get to be

people, so I think it's people, even if we don't know, because I'm not,

I'm a campaign electoral, we can debate an idea, I do not to chicaning,

but argumented, we have the right to not think, but in the same it's we force to

argumentate. So if you are going to comment on our social, I'm really really the respect. If there's not

a respect, we will retry your commenter because you have the right to not be able to get. Now,

there's a way of it is what we encourage fortement, it's this open up this debate

where we will be very sure in fact, to participate. So, today I receive Eric

Duhm. Eric is the chief of the Party Conservator of Quebec. He's is

the 17 April 2021. He has lost the county of Chauveau during the election. He's presented

at the election partial of Artabasca. He not not got gained, and there he's present

in the county of Belchase. His party has not not even of the Assembly

National. So I hope to it's on how he saw this campaign

electoral for him these objectives concrete. So I'm very, very content

the to see someone that I know, that I I've already cotoyed there's already

several years but I'm trying to you've seen all along. It's probably a exercise more difficult

because we're not not over because we've seen not over for a few but it's the way the view

soot but I'm to keep it's important to you see the the chief political

so it I'm I'm I'm my invite my invite Eric Duhm

well good good good good Michael Barete the defect Eric, I

did the entry to the versus the you. We're going to be able to make a

sense that we're not going to not. But it's it's not many. It's not not quite the

time. It's not quite as well we're going to we're going to but we're not sure, but we jose like

long time. Yeah, exactly because we've made we've militated to on the action democratic

of Quebec of fact very, of a fashion very active and we're we're in we're quite

in these years. Even in the media, we're trying to get in the media also we're

I've got to go in my micro. I've already I've seen at your place and you're at my name. Yeah, in the fact you're bad right right

we're very reason we're going to so we're going to okay, because all the long I'm saying I'm saying you're going to you want to do you

you're doing to you're doing to you're doing a little stress exactly so that so it's well it's

well it's even not at a few hours of the decalachment in politics of these mountains so I'm so I'm saying

I'm saying my attention to say my to say my something to say it's going to say it's going to be something

well. In fact, what is important, is that in my head, it's that's about my time. I've been done to do you have been a lot of the last year. I'm

a better team more structured, more more encodered, I know the last time I'd be in an bus, and it was going to be

on an bus, who we'd have on an auto bus, and we're on the same, I was in this whole city, I know, it's a

whole thing, there's a, there's a professionalist that's installed, and it's normal, the last time, we parted with a clack

and a button, you know, I'm not, it's, there were, there was, there's, there's, there's, in the, there's, there in the rid of, there that there was part of the party in my soul, you know, when I decided to be

to the direction of the Party Conservateur, so, we're not at the same place, and the, and the politics, yes, it's these politics, it's, but it's also, how you feel? And then, that's my second, I've got the experience of the first,

and I'm, and I'm a lot more confident, and, you know, I see, you know, I was with Mario in the time, I was in there, I was there, I said, what, but when you're in the time you're in when you're in advance, it's not a

game. And so, so I know exactly what I'm for the debate, for the interviews, for the tournays, even to meet with

the world, I'm more more than I'm at least, I know how to even the way to come back, I know,

I know, your first campaign, the first person that's going to get to be to look to look fool.

But, but there's, it's... It's not good. It's not good, you know, but what you say, but what you

say, but what you do, it's in back, and be in front, is it in front, is it in front, is the chief? No, because you're doing a team, but you sense when you're saying when you're trying, because you're trying, it's because, you're, because, you're, when it's around to, you know, when it's it's when it's up to work, it's because, there, there, there's a problem.

And, and, and, often, it's these problems that, it's not 90-10, to, you, to, if, it's the affairs, 59-49, and, and, there's the chief who, who who they intervene. And then you have the two side that do they're doing their lobbying

or their pressure and then you decide in which the direction the party will go to the role of leadership because

if you're to stay to keep in the time that you see in the time you see the same the victory

the defeat and the defets are solitary so the so the landmine of a day of a day after you

see sure that at the election general it's been more I've seen some bit but can't we part

with a clack and a Botin, the party has assembled 530,000 votes. It's an accident democratic that we're not not being a few it's not due.

It's at cause the repartition of the population on the territory. But we're kind of even more than a million of votes. We have the same number of votes than

the PQ, the Libero and the Solidare but it's not a lot of people people say, the people say, we're saying it's kind of we're assembled a

million of people in the space of a few years. But what I think what I'm talking, because we talk to how

you're talking about, because the year past, I was present of an election partial in our time basketball, I'm in the center of Quebec at Victoriaville.

And, and there, we're trying we had gone to 10%, it was not an humiliation that's arrived,

but the fact to lose, I'm feeling really, I, I, I'd really, I'd more to gain

the partial than to gain the siages at the election general. And why you'd think you

the port-a- door to the port-a- door, I'm the difference, is that when I'm part-st, you

parted at 1% in 2002, when I was the chief in an year before, part-e, party, you're at 1%, and I

remember I had I had to get, I'm not the choice to go to because, if I'm not I'm not going to vote.

I'm not the four parties me offer not what I'm not, and I have the feeling that I'm the same, but I thought

that'd be 13, I thought, I thought, my objective at the part, it was to offer a voice to these

three, four percent of Quebecers, that, like, like I have an impression of being

an impression of being an office, uh, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact,

it was, we had tripled I think I'd because the circumscription, the way that's it's a fact that's

a few people city of a tour, and you're at all they're at all right to get to be back, so I'm

coming in a campang and it's there that the world is the world is the part of the policy in the

politics in the city, it's not a game so, so in the they're saying, you know all the

people, you're you're present to all people, you know, you know, you know, in the activities,

all the time, I've made a campaign really to and I'm the city it was a lot more

more easy to watch. But when you get a little bit of and the guy know it's a good time,

and it's like it's like we know that we're not seen. I thought it was for, it's, it was more,

it was more shocked, yeah. When you you've seen the result, is, is you'd say, I'd

have had differently, I'd have done differently and try to work and try

to, I know, I know can't do you're quite you're kind of

you've got accomplished. Malgris all, and I had felt like we had reached to to increase to make sure that's, so I'm sorry,

I'm sure you're really wanted to do the victory. It's like that but to enter at the Assembly National because you have to have a place

to say, you're not there's a lot of Blanchett Vizina the former the former the last of the KAC who is coming

to be in the last year that's for that we've been being able to at the opportunity to... I'd let's make

we're doing our conference of press and all that we've participated to do that So it's done a lot of

visibility but in the in the in the time, I think today the party would be

not as far if I've not been to have been to do. Because with the recul it's like

when you're like you when you're on the impression that's a shock that's a newfound

and with you're able to you're able to and say well finally it's to be finally it's

a lot of and it's it's got and it's that's a that's a that's really it's a really

probably it's really had you had to have been a other election partial after that in Shikoutimi. And in Shkutimi, we're passed to 8 to 26%. And then, I had seen that

I, I had understood what, we had to work, and what had to be, the organization also, we've learned of our errors, and in Shikutsimi,

we've had tripled more than tripled our votes. So, I think it's, it's, it's been, it's a defective, and it's,

but it's correct to decortique our defaute our and to be what's the good in, in a exercise democratic

like an election and today I'm going to like a few I'm going to it's like a way to work the end of time

the last year the last year yeah it's a bit after that's when you're in re-relevant you've seen of other things

I've seen exactly that is ready to open to with your with your with your well I'm

just par I'm just I'm just the objective no no no no no you're just the carton you're talking about

no no no no no it's really proper to no no it's really so the question You'll see, in this

game that's a game a little bit particular. It's not quite like the game traditional. I'm used to have a special in a special election. Special mode electoral. The level jones, it's these mis in situations.

I'll know how you reactere at the mis in situations. The level of we're more pretty to your convictions political. So we're talking

more on, we'll talk really more of politics, and you have a Joker in my game. So it's annaid to respond to my So I'm on the joker You'll be able to

And I'll end up And I'm right You're in front, You're in front You're asking 5 You're in choosing 5 And you're

Is it important? No, no You know, no, you Do you know No, but you You go to watch It's the fun You're gonna

You're gonna 5 You're gonna You're gonna Yeah, okay Yeah, yeah Of these 5 I'll, I'll You've been

To get to And you're You've been You've been To choose a To make You'll be on the next side. You'll go to

go to with after the campaign. The other chief who don't know the same questions? No. Okay, it's different.

It's very different. Exactly. There's a level made in the situation that I decided to make the same for that's just

but I could not you pose my questions on the on your and you know your life personal. And I'm

you're going to you'll tell you you'll say that I'm want to do answer and after I'm going to ask you're

on only two questions of the level. So, so type of amoreue

are you It's a little you. You're telling you in this one. Well, that's a event that has had a impact major

on your life, what is your your own peer default, on what trait of character have you do

have you do and what you know, I'm going to do you know, it's all these good questions.

Yeah, to have you have to have been to answer. Well, that's I have

something to say to say, but you have to choose. Oh, okay, I'm

just, I'll be the first, but to the way, so you're on What I've been in effect major on your life? I'll talk about that you.

I'm going to go to start. Well, obviously, I'm going to talk to the Iraq. Because I'm going to Iraq during the war. I'm working in development democratic. And, you're traveling in a zone of war, it's changed my life. And it's rare that these individuals are confronted to something as cruel, the shock is also brutal. And on the coup, obviously, I'm not so I'm not so rung up.

And it's for that I wanted to tell you. But tell me what, what, what's going to do you? I was working for a NGO in development democratic that's the National Democratic Institute. At the time, it was Madeleine Allbright, the ancient secretor of the American who presided that.

I had made the same thing on Morocco for more than a little more than a few years, two years ago, and when you're having the opportunity to part for the Iraq,

it's after the defeat of the ADQ. After, in 2008, when it was we've been in 2007, I'm not so quick, but I was to trypid, but I was part to Morocco,

I'm revenu after the election. But I'm reneu for the election, in fact, and I'm rested, and then after so we've lost, Mario had demissioned and I'm going to

I'm going to and then I'm, and then the development democratic in Iraq it's like, it's like, if I'm in front of final, the Coupe

Stanley, because you go in a country that all the world, you know, that's focused at the point, you're replacing

you know, to replace you for me, it was really an step important, for working to work with

the development democratic, there had there's issues of security. I said, I saw, before

to party, you know, I saw with Iraq, who had a war, and we're talking about it at Sto and then, and I knew, and I'd replace a few that, you're saying, okay, wait, but have you part, at this moment that?

Well, you know, you know, you're, you know, and that's always, you know, and we're at all the top of the top. And, and so, and so, I've decided, and I've made the formation in Washington, and, okay, I've been

selected, and I'm going to be selected, and even the first steps, like as, like, as much, you know, and if you're not to leave an aeropartive, but, you know, you're going to

to go to the airport, and at the time we called it, but let's you arrive at an airport, and then you'd give her to have your car, and then, she, she, she, she, you know, she's, there's a new transfer, and she, she, and she, she,

and then, the lady, monsieur, you're going to Iraq, you know, at the time, the Canada had not participes of the war, so, there were very few of Quebecers, who were going to Iraq during the war, and, like, and, there, your mother to be embroiled, and,

and, you know, you're at an airport, and I was, I mean, I think it's invincible, but I saw it over my parents that he said, they'd have been to be able to

see, and she'd be able to and be able to to come to not come to me to come back, because she wanted,

that we'd live that all and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then,

I'd say, that, he had a , I'd be that I'd see, that, it's, it's, it's,

it's been, it's, that, I've tried that, I've tried that, but I'd, you know, I had really

, you'd, to have I'm I'm saying I'm saying it's the last grand civilization

Arabosulman who has not participated at democracy I'm in politics before my ideas I'm for my idea

for the ideal democratic and for me for me I was quite content and I was very fair

to be able to be but the disheurur at the airport has been very difficult I'm

I'm listening my parents I don't know we're talking we've never to talk we're just we're just

I was arrived there, it's a super well, it's a super-been-etting, you know, I'm in my element, I'd travel with the parties political, I'm trying to, you know, how I'm doing so, you know, how I'm doing,

so I'm doing, so much, it's my aspect professional, it's all right, the rest of the life, it was, I'd be in some kind of

with these sacs of sand, and pillie to the platform, I'd be in times with my vats anti-ball, and my cask,

and the walkit-tocky, and the alarm part in the middle in the night, especially when there were in tempete of sand, we'd be bombarded. And then we'd have to gore, and then to

get into some missile, until until it's calm. But, you know, but it's bizarre. I've never seen of fear or of stress. And, and I'm, I'm a courte.

You know, I'm a maratonian. And so, so, I'd want to gore there also. But, you see, I'd make a company, there had a truck with some AC 47, and some of the machine gun

in the rear that because you were because you were in action, you were on that it was on you'd re-enregistra not, you couldn't, you know, you're trying to register.

But, you know, I, I didn't, I'm not, like, too, I'm not in psychology, I've been not been able to do. But your heart is in trying to enregistry, can't even, a state of vigilance, hyper-vigilant. What I've seen, because it had felt like I consulted when I'm

, there, is, that, is that my car naturally has arisen, me protect. You know, my mind, you have said, okay, guard, you know, you're going to, you go, you know, you've been, but,

but, look, even just when you're , when you're atterry at Baghdad, let's, The zone red, it's a card red, that's a

it's a it's a zone that's the zone that's not the country and the American had the

area of the but it's there's not there's there's there's a there's there's a

war, so the the air to get to it's there's there's there's probably

when it's because it's really it's like it's it's like it's it's always

to do you know the for the person that's in the person who's No, your car, he matures, he's not the heart, he's not

so, you know, when you're doing, you're doing, you're doing a airport at Baghdad, he'd make a vest anti-ball, he'd make a cask,

he arrives with three camions, three jeep, he'd put in the tunds, in the rear of the jeep, there's a machine gun

at the rear, the AK-47, the guys are these sides of the and they're three jeep, and they're on come up,

because the route, and the airport and the center of Baghdad at the time, it was the route the most

the world. So, For we, for us We're trying to He's in fact that, so, it's sure that when you're I'm in front,

you know, You know, you know, you're thinking to start? No. But, no,

it's, like, you know, you're doing, you know, there's, you know, to do you,

that's, in fact, you're like, you're like, it's like, it's like, it's sure, it's a bit,

in fact, that, so, so, so I've, so, so I've, so,

so, after six months, and after six months, I've decided that I've asked and then I've decided to

come to come to work. And I've had been very my employer was quite, my employer was doing what I'm

having to do you, and I've made to have done to I think, we know, if we had seen at the moment that, I don't know,

I'm not, you're doing when I'm when I'm coming. And when I'm coming, I'm just I just the first

or the second or the second before, I'm coming to my parents, but I'm had been nothing,

I've been there's a lot, so I'm the first time, the two-year-day-year-hyeye the Gleurte was in the course and I'm

I'm trying to in a dream I had the sentiment that I was making a mitraille because I'm I'm used to get used to

when you're you're doing you're doing well, you're doing it so I'm just I'm just I'm at

you're in to get to hurled but you know you're in bed on the top of your your hair and it's left

and it's it's like what's it's what's it's what's Yeah, he's a demand in rolling in bull, what's you do with,

and then they're never said, but I'm not, you know, I'm in the impression, that people think, an other thing, an other affair

that's coming to, I was in a center of chasas because there, you know, there's a plan of that I'm to get,

you're like to get, and you're like, there's, there's a system of climatization that part, and I've

heard, and I've heard, and I, it's, and it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, in my brain It's asterisked, it's a brinket because it's like, for me it was the alarm

that I'd have to becky because I was always when the alarm parted that I'd go to to go to an abryant anti-missile, I'm to make sure, and then I'd go ahead and I'm

saying, at all right, at the beginning I'd at least, and at a minute I realized what's what I'm doing? And then I realized okay, I'm in Quebec, it's all right

to park, why I'm caught, and everyone me would look, and then you're you're just, you know, okay, that's not okay, that's gonna, okay, you know, it's gonna see what I'm gonna

say, you know, there's a lot, there's, you know, there's a question there, there, there, they've been diagnosed with a syndrome post-traumatic,

because, yeah, I had, had viking, I, had bicked a shock, but I'm not ever, I'm gonna, never, ever,

I'm sure, Mark, the other, I'm not, I never, never thought, to have been over, and, my car,

my, my cell, my, unregistered, inconsiamelyely, yeah, It's a lot for a car human, for the mental. But I thought it's not.

Yeah, because what you've said, it's just the hyper-vigilance, constant, but, you know, to be in survival, it's a lot. But I just... I'm not like that. It's so that's complicated to understand. I'm not, because you're not...

I'm not psychiote, I'm not psycholog. No, but you're saying that you have a mode of action. If it happened, if it happened, what's what you've been conscious of danger. it's like it's like they're in the

if you're to be the it's not the word of the but you're in the same and you're in the same

and you're not to be in bad but you're not you know he decode you're not there's got there

what we explain is that when I'm in fact when I'm my barriars my

my brain my brain my mind you my can't be we're not that's for that I'm not

that I'm there's just that I'm in have been there And in the case, it's like that's like that I'm in mind-imaged. Yeah, I understand.

It's right, and it's not reacty. And what's, what's, what's the way? Well, I've consulted a couple of times, it's still,

it's a second, again, to be a, it's a last year, that's the that's the , the sequel

that's my same, I've never had a night of eight hours to this time, that's weird, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm, I'm in a same, you're in a have a sombrein profound. And I've asked to work,

I've seen, I'm trying to work, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm doing, let's see, I'm doing, I'm doing it,

but I'm in smear and I'm in smearck, and, and so, so, so, so, so, so I, so I'm,

I'm, not, you know, necessarily, but I'm, I'm not, but I'm trying, to do other things, for,

for me repososos, but the summer, traditional, like all, I, I, I'm, you're not,

but, you're, you've been Yeah, there's two years, I've had a little bit. I was... I've been... I've been... I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Because, you know, my story, is that you're going to be a course, really someone in form. And finally, we understand the malady

of the heart, there's plenty of things, there's a lot of and there, how you go to do? It's all super well, it's also, I'm a

very surprised, Mark Clau. You know, I'm attended, I'm going to be the last to have a to be the last to do you the

time? We can't tell, you the time? We can't do you this journey, there I was at gym. Okay, I was in trying to me entrainne, and I was on the tapirulant, and I

sent it a point to starnum, and that's important, let me, it's always, it's important, let's see what I'm doing. I see, I'm a point Osternome, and he was, like, it was, like, I'm doing, my dinner, I said, oh, maybe I did maybe I'm just, I'm at all, so, yeah, I'm saying, I'm, yeah, I'm doing, I,

say, I'm not, I'm doing, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm saying, I'm mad, me, I'm saying, okay, it's, it's just like, it, the So, I return to the I'm in the home,

my chum arrives, we're going to get to be all right, we're doing, he's gone to go to

go ahead, there's a time, but when I get to be a little bit more far. And it's

on the mid-airns, it was in the whole, it was like a ball of fire. There,

my friend again he said, you know, you know, if you're getting a lot,

it's, he'd be done we're trying, in the more, I'd I'd torded toad the I'd I'd

have to be in an impression to have a ball of a car. And then my chum when he was

seen that you have seen, he said, it said, it was to it's a d'olair but he

it's an accident because it's a light, it's a light, so there's a bit of

that he had been able to to get to be in my car at this moment that.

And then, after that, I've seen that I'm that I've been all got been all got into

got difficulty to have been I was going to be able to get to be the opposite to keep in the

way to say we're going to not you're not we're not going to go in auto so we're going to we're going to

and then you get to be able to breathe and and then you're getting to the month of December it's there's more

than I'm a minute of the auto to get a pique of the oxygen that come to get in

my pommone it's a and it when I'm when I was at the urgent it it was really time that

I arrived at hospital, because there I started to change to color. And so, they've put it, there's a lot, you know, there's not a list of attend to that, you know, after they've got to be

that they've seen that my car batte not regularly. There, all, all right, you know, we're getting to charge. And so, we're trying to all the time, we're very difficult, and

that's the problem in Quebec in matter of health, but a cut of entry, I, I've got the chance to have the person extraordinary, like, after

all the patients of who I've been to have been that I've been that I've been like the situation like my own. And, and,

you know, some of the beginning, they're in the time, to know, when the results are coming,

it's been able to be able to the same, they're going to get to be what, I'll be able to tell you,

I'll tell you that's a table like that, but it's a place, and there had there's a grand, giant,

at my gosh, the medicine there, the cardiologist, and there were there, there were,

there's the table. And then, they're all new. They've tried, because he had rased, because he didn't, because he said didn't, if he had passed by Lenn or by the bra. Finally, I mean, it was done, you'd have done to make a camera.

And then, on the screen, I'd, and I'd and I'd say my car. And, and then, he was shown where it's been blocked. We've all had all right, after that, these ballons.

And then, he's had entered in chakuen't, and he said, you'll have the same sentiment that when you had made your crisis cardiac. You'll see a pincement, because he blocked my artery to it's been blocker to blocker with the ballon. So, he made me have debloqued my three arteries.

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I've never really had I've ever to try to I'm entraned to be able to be even in your in your respiration because often

when you're being able to you're getting to hear of that. Yeah, that you're able to yeah, that you're put

to be a little bit of it's like you're after you're talking saying, okay, it's that respiration, you're an impression

that's you're a impression that you're like there's a feeling that's like there's like more of the

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I think it's true of course. No, but the car is more central that we think, it's because we're the people, you know, the specialists,

the medicine will be more to present to the urgency and make a crisis of panic, because the times, the crisis of panic, it's going to

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when Martin, the cardiologist Martin Chinoe, me said, the first symptom of the infarctus

is what? it's the more subit you know, you're there there's like, you know, and you're

there's, it's like, it's like, it's, so, is that it's, that's, that's changed

the relation with the war? Yes, because the sentiment that's the feeling that's

the urgency to live. And I 've lived in Iraq also, because the people know

not that but you're in a zone of Iraq, and you know, we're in at a cafeteria

in the end of the the helicopters arrived, so we'd say we'd, it's because he'd remanded their cars. And, and then, there, there was a silence

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I'm I'm in maybe, I'm still it's too intense the level of the life,

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when we're sometimes when we're not if we're not going to have to be there's a time that that comes.

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It's a good question, that also. But, listen, I'm going to be at radio. You know, you know, I'm a guy who is very spontaneous, very transparent, very direct. You're like intense also?

Intense, it's all right. We can't do it and say that. And when I'm going to say in politics,

I'm out of the radio that's that's made that's made to do you on the morning,

anime an issue to have some good of the good code of to get, and I'm really

really used there. But it's a thing, being chief of a party political, it's completely

a other thing, my transition had not finished, it's for that I'm talking, because there there's

some that's a trait of character that I'd that's a new between an

time, the time to be able to be a matter of to be a represent to a group.

Rassembly the people. Assembly, so that other is it's going to provoking a

bit, yeah. F'clock, it's been long. Because you have been to change

of the siage, you change not necessarily your way your and your time to

think, and the for me it's been a long processus because I'm

also in my role, the animator of radio, you know, I liked that, to have made that's a medium that's fun, the radio. Yeah, it's the instantanity. It's the instantanity, it's direct.

I mean, I was doing two tribune telephonic per day, the world me appellate, you see, I'd meet the world in Quebec,

and then you talk about after you're on the mission, with Natalie Normando Oh, yeah, because you do you make

part of a radio, you're in the same time, you know, they're talking about the same, you know, they're talking about, the end of

the end of the at the school the morning. It's a great privilege to do that radio. You're in the proximity, proximity to the world.

So I'm like that you know, but in politics it's not the same thing. You know, you're going to recoup of

people, like you say, it's not just for you, you're not just in your name. And that's it's the thing

that's the thing that's still still because I see, I'm conscious, that, you know, in a few, that's going to

be the debate of the chief, I'm, I'm concerned, if I'm the foot, because it's not when it's not when we're in the

minute when we're we're going to it's not every year. But it's not just me that's not just new to my career or

at my own my own own election in Belchase, I'm new year to know, and to do you know, and a million

of the time, and that's like a pressure. Is it? Is it not the same? Is it the same

to have the same way to the last time we're going to until we're going to end we're the P.

The P. P.I. I could F. it's if it's a There's an acquit.

There's a solace, and we have a job to be able to do with to get, at the entire, at least, the pression is different. And so, the pressure is different, but that's,

it's, it's, it's the old on those apolls, because I think that all the chepelon also, that, it's something.

But, there, there are three, in the debate, there will be there, but the trait of character, is that's your

spontaneity, is what you do you do, be more disciplined, it's, you should be represent your gang, what you're to represent your gang, what's

what's going to, you know, you can't be part to, you know, when you're saying, you know, you're sure that's that you're the fun, but you're going to be you know, and then you provoke a little, because you have not the time to do you think, right?

Well, no. like, like, like, like, in campaign electoral, we have an impression that the chief, you know, the party politics, it's the electors

who are in trying to be regarded, the journalists, but also at the interior that we're observed. But, yes, that's what,

that's not more. It's that, I think, that's the most stress, it's to, to always to serve the

troops, to be sure that it's that we're looking in the same direction. And, you know,

a party political, it's a family enlargy, you've not chosen to all the people. There are

people who have more of the people who have there's a other with who you're there's more, you're more, you're more,

you're there some people, and there are there for you, you're really a variety, and you're and there's

people of all the origins, of all the all the horizons that represent these realities totally different,

and all your role is to try to try to try to try to a denominator common there in

the same direction. It's, in of the system of personnel, it's it's a hard, it's not a job that's simple,

and so, it's so, it's not, the animator of radio, it's the contrary, I mean, I was, and I'd turn to do things,

and I'd say, and I'd and I'd and I'd, and I'd and I'd and I'd be, I'd

have not, this charge, that'd have, you, you know, there's, a lot of, a liberty, a, you,

I'd say, when I'd , you'd, you'd, you know, I'd always, you'd always, you'd, you'd always,

you've, the people, it's not, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna, you know, and I'm saying, but I'm saying, but I'm,

I'm gonna, but I'm, I'm like, yeah, what's he came to do? It's been, I'm gonna be there's a bit of bonse, oh, it's not, it's not,

me, I'm, you know, I didn't even not how you did you know, but, but, you know, and I think it's to be like, it's also,

although provocator, you know, But why? But why, so, although, but is, is it for

to be in the eye of the public? But there's a bit that's a show, you know, there's a lot of there's nothing

that I'm like I'm trying to when I'm like I piqued all the time and it's like it's like the world who

who's people who people who I'm doing on what I trybber to find on

so, yeah, yeah, yeah, and she she and she also she had some it was like

it's like No, but at two, it's better, but when you're alone, and you provoke, and I think I'm sure

it's really and I'm sure, I'm in a campaign electoral, I'm but I'm not necessary. We're not.

We're fact... Yeah, it's sure. And, you know, I think that's changed a lot, and you see, what I feel, I feel,

I'm saying, when you when you say, when you say, when you said, when you said, it's sure, you know,

the party, probably the idea, the idea is the when you vote for us, you know, when you vote to vote for us,

We're also But it's also But it's probably Yeah, it's probably Yeah, it's not necessarily negative.

In Quebec, we don't because we're a question of the chican, but it's not necessarily of the chican to have some different,

but that's it being it's not that I'm doing, that the people are more in the sense where there's even who are

not they're not, but they're there's a but I'm not the glass of the air that's against us

there, there there's not there's not impossible that the five October, there's certain of them

that vote for us. what had been impassable in their head a few years. I feel the climate is more

detented, I'd say, and the perception that you know in our regard. The Quebec people, the Quebecans

also, the perseverance is a great quality, and the Quebecers appreciate so that because of our situation

of our situation of minority that has survived in America, we're being we're being people, we're used

to preserve our language during our language during the question, it's a quality that we

appreciate more than the other. And the fact that I'm still there today,

there's a lot of the there's a I'm never thinking, I'd never think, the time of the after having had been able to be

to be able to be after the problem of the health you've had been sure that you're sure that you're going to like a respect

for the fact that we're to continue to for the same election. I think that's more than it more than you

know, more than you think you're like you're like you you're in fact you're you're in

you know, you know, you're change to turn to You know, when I When I do this, I'm talking, I know, I know, I know,

I know, but that, but that, it's a change the tone. You know, if it's a tone where I'm, I don't want

to judge the person, it's not that I'm not saying, but I'm to understand. You know, after that we're not really,

but we're not the time, but I'm not to be the same, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, to be convinced,

to who, to who, you know, but, so, for this election Yes. It's

there's we're going to we're doing we're just finished, I'm just finished for a bit There's a

minute, there's also the image public and the individual. That I'll talk to that's

because the people often, me give to a example, but it's my chom in

his family or his family or even of people who who can't know, it's

they're they're saying, they're saying, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's I'm subsistening, and I'm, I never, I've got to get my chum, we know,

it's just, it's a time, you know, it's a you know, you're never, you know, a chican, in the

other, that, I don't know, that I'm doing on the sofa, and never that's never, that's it's been

that's always, it's always, why I'm not that's always that's always in the respect, the tone, has never

been in the , you know, to get to, I'm at a couple to do you, it's never, never, arrived in 16,

yeah, we have a relation very, very harmonious at this level that. And the people

have seen the perception contrary, you know, because I'm polarized because I'm really,

I'm in the perception of the fact and the people, the people, the people, you know,

there's a really, they're really, they're me, they're not, they're not, I'm,

you know, you know, you're like, we're not possible? Well, yes, it's possible. But,

yeah, there's something, maybe in your years, or it's, it's been... It's polarized,

exactly, and it lets a perception and it's long to do it, it's been five years, and then,

and then, I'm sure, I'm sure, that's the policy is the decision of the perception? Well,

yeah, you're not just of the politics, you know, you know, there's a first of

there's a question, there's a personality, medial, the personality public, the way

but it's for that you're that's for the person that's what, that's, Okay, what's what I've done, who's the time, you know,

sometimes we don't know at a little scale, but at grand scale, there's kind of a message important to retone of that. It's not, it's not the fault of all the world,

if if people have the same image of something, it's that you're reflected so. And, you know, when I was when I was in chief, we're in a system

where there's five parties political. When it's a lot of, the election of the 5 October, it's the first the first time probably the story

of the Quebec that's five parties going to leave of the deputies. For you to find your place, you have to

make a lot of because the worst thing that's the person is that you and that's not that's sure that

it's sure that it's obliged to a little more or even a more more or even a part of my place because

that I have not to I have not a percent of the visibility mediatic while we're 13, 14,

15 percent of the people, so it had it there were that there sometimes we

we're we're talking we're talking we're a little bit place, because we'd have car and then

you'd be more natural. It's that. So, so, so, so, so,

we've got our place, we're doing institutionalized, then you know, well, thank you. It's

more than you. You're going to be more , I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, Eric, but

it's so it's not it's not it's up and, and it's really, you, you're really a, you're really

a, you're really a, a guy, intelligent, a, very politicized, really, a fool of

the political. You know, when you look your path, you know, I've always been part. So, that you're going to be there, it's not a surprise. But after that... But it's not a thing. That's the other thing, the people, you know,

your career, and me, I never had a plan of career. I've never had a plan of career. And I'm just as to become a chef to part of the conservator. And, you know, even when I was to try with Mario, never, I'd ever be thinking,

I'd ever be able to be chief. I'd say, I'd have to be in the area. Yeah, yeah. And you've done it. And I appreciated that. We're like, on the same. I don't know.

I don't know. But I'm trying to say that's the chef. Arrack. You'd have to be sure. No. Well, y'all. You'd like that I'm at

the DQ? When there was the election in 2008, the night of the year of the Loo, we had to have

at the hotel universal. Yeah. And then, Mario, wanted to do you make to do you want to be

that, and I wanted to he'd be and say, yeah, Mary, we're to see that, and you know,

and you're just already to organize to organize to work chefery, I had commenced to talk about,

I said, there's a Mark Claude who's in I'm in no, yeah,

when you know, when you know, when you know, I'm sorry, but, I'm sorry, but I'm saying,

yeah, I was parted to the leadership, you're your , you're saying,

I said, no, you've said, no, I think, I never had ever had never had a

doubt, but, I'm not, she's probably, it's not, she's probably she'll change the idea in two,

three months in two, no, They never had worked six months after. And no, because it's for that I'm sure that I'm sure to be able to receive the chief, because

for me, it's really humanely something something extremely markant in a life, just a campaign electoral when you're chief, you know.

I've been I've seen very, very, very, very, it's a journey where all it's a day, it's a journey

or all all the, you're in an state of super vigilance during a campaign and it's

that we're that we've got, that's the true, you know, I'm sorry, we've seen, we've been, we're going to

we're going to and there's a lot, because it's too. Too, it's too hard. You know, how you've got to reactire.

So, I'm going to say, your courage. But you know, I'm not quite the party. Now, I'm going to be

to the bar? No, no, you know, no, you know card, of the new so, so, that's the first

that I've done, it's the these, yeah, I'm, yeah, Yeah, it's a part of your game.

Okay, Rienne of like you will be the pancy during this campaign electoral and a movey soundage

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of your candidates to candidate. What's you pardon and what's you don't not?

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more often, and I think it's important to clarify, it's the left or the first of the first we're in

when we're in political, that's what you're going to be in the idea clear of what it's and the right, and the

center of being in France, and to get in Quebec, and to Canada and to be in the United,

it's not necessarily say, it's a question, I'm, I'm trying, because it's

important to respond to that people people understand to what we people, At Quebec, the right, and if I'm

see, I'm sues, it's to want to want that the individuals have more of liberty, that the government be a little more people who collect more tax, who can't more, that we regulate more. We're really there in, it. It's not the question of the abortment, it's not the question of marriage gay.

It's the first time, in fact, in Canada, there's a chief of a party political, conservative, provincial or federal, who is overtly gay. Ah, you're the first. And if you're the first. And if I've eluded, it's been the first time that a chef, overtly, gay, conservator,

is he eluded in their functions. So, so, so it's not the conservatism social. It's important to say that, that's the conservatism economic. And, first, and all, but there's a part of the family, in the sense

when we're the party of the families, often, you know, the conservators, it's the people who are more, you know, for the people, to have their families, number of, we're often proposing of the measures for facilitated

the life of the young Quebecers that's very conservative it's very conservative so I'm

not a non-servatists social but let's say pro-family normally be a conservative but it

it can also it can also make to think to people that's the return to the return to the

mother yeah I'm I'm sure you know yeah I'm that's what you have been

that's been it's been quite well when I'm Claude, the fact that there is 1.35 by family, we're attained the year past,

the most bad tithe of the history of Quebec. I'm worried. I'm afraid. I'm not an infant, so I'm pleaded culpable. But, I mean, I think, it's very inquieting for the future. And I think that it's important

that we're working as an personage, that. And for me, a woman who chooses to take a pose professional of several years to be consensary to family, to build a family, to fund a family

with many of children. I mean, she has all my admiration, and I consider not that's devalorizing what she has did. I think she's too courageous, if she's more than me,

and when she's her the night, not finished. Her day, her day, she's not going to see a day, a day, so I think, I think,

you have to stop at a submette, to be mad at my foyer, but it's part of the family,

it's important, it's important, but a parent who choose to take a post professional to fund a

family and have a family and have a family numbero I'm in I'm in that I'm really,

and I'm because it extremely difficult I'm honestly, it's a lot of work,

to be a work to be that's a thing, but it's that you're to know,

but it's that's when you're in a conge of maternity the people they're not to be

to do you it's not to be that you it's rare at me that's I've seen

someone other who's in the same reality, but it's not that you're there's not there's a

and there's there's really more more difficult to be able to rest to work than to start in the case

in my case personal, I'd not have been so you mean, I'm that you're

much, it's a bit like you want to you're like you want to but you're

saying a thing, there, there's there's a little bit of the civilisation,

we're we're at the issue, you know, like me as well as, the Quebecois are one of the people are the people are,

and that's a good at least it's very positive, but I think that you have to pass to the next step, it's to say that

it had been it was a fact that it was a value that the family, and she's going to have,

she's working, and she has done with as well as other than as well, that's been

a point, that's been the real equality, it's to respect the choice to all the moment a certain

don't know, it would be to pass that the next step. And it's not judge the

if we're going to the family, we're doing also valorize the family, and it's a lot of

the family. And it's it's a old, but there's also the reasons biologic and they

often it's the woman, because it's not the men, it's not about our five, it's not

the other conjoin, it but it's but it can be the other conjoin that also. It's

can be that but it's not devalorized the people who do that. The woman and the man

and the man and it's not all the world that's not that's not not everyone. I mean,

I'm not I've seen people who would be to not to be able to have to go to

I'm not I'm not for who it's a It's it's a It's a when they're

when they're going to get to it's a torture. It's just complicated in the

logistics familial. But it's there's the person is the choice. We're not

there to judge person. But we have not just the choice at not just the choice at the

public, but also of how we're doing it. You know, we're to stop to get to

do you know an example very concrete, the guard of the guardery. We subvenci enormously the guardery

to the CPA, that's very, very subvencioned. Yes, the parents pay a little monta,

but it's the pinot by a amount, but it's the couple who has been to be

to be able to be able to penalized. We we judge in a certain way, financially we doge because he doesn't

not the same resources that we don't know to the same that's the family that, the person who continues to work,

he pay these taxes and the impo to finance the system of those who you propose what to that? I'm, I

propose that we're all they're different models also, there are different generational,

they're going to have to be more and more, because we're a population viecent and and our parents,

a moment of a they're going to to be in a lot of us and there are people who are they're in view on the same

to the same and they're in a moment also that's a moment also is when you're not there, and when you

get it and they're the people, we've been that's been that's been and the people who are

that I mean, I hate this word, that's been our ma'am our grand mar, our grandmare,

our parents, yeah, but I'm I've been their time, I mean, but I'm, but I'm,

but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, There's some courageous who have been back here. But it's a question of choice

in the phone but you say. You have respect the choice. You're sure not judging. It's certainly the judgment

in fact that it's really that's the time you're doing during a campaign electoral, we had made an interview with

me and I'd have again Julietette was still pretty and I had the two

other and it's a campaign that was particularly particularly difficult that

that because physically it was physically it was because there was

a journal his title, it's Marri Clairette, a woman folkloric. Huh?

Yeah, because I let it. At the time, it's a folklor about it. You know, when I got to say, I'm not

talking to, but I'm not I'm interested. I was late at 30 years, I've got to have 30 year the

last year and a yeah, and yeah, yeah, yeah, and at the time you're

there, you're talking, yeah, and at the time, when this interview that will have

had been had been his son year of two two little-fice at this moment that.

It's very yeah, it's over the time. But at the time, at the year, it was not,

I mean, we'd say, it's a coming, to see, my mother had not lette, and my belle- -mere,

but it's why it's complicated, and we can't be it there's a table at linger,

and there was a lot of that's all that you're playing. Yeah, but you but I'm

realized a lot of this moment that, I said, but why why they're why they're

why they're why, the fans would the facility, the and finally we're going to another, but

with all the rest around, but all that for say, I meaned a battle for, there's just a carfour-laver that had that

was there was to the carpool lavour, so you had to go ahead by the river of Loo. But that I'm just

I mean at Riverier Dooloo, it was the magazine at the that I made time, that me would be in

a cabin with, let's my two other infer to alette at there. There had no, it didn't

not, it didn't exist not, and the oh, he'd allette, the two other go in the center

of the chastown, no, but we have made a way to come in the same, for doing, to respect the choice. But I'm

saying that I'm always always always always always always been for what I'm for the other, but when you

promen, what you just you just said, it's a measure of the right or the gosh? Normally,

the family is more associated at the right, it's like we value more, we value,

so it's for that I'm, it's for coming to the question, we've made a little detot of a couple minutes.

But I'm going to get this question. All the people all the question, I mean, it's even important for me, the equity at the at a traverse

that. But it's because, I think, I'm because I'm saying, well, I'm saying, well, I'm going to do because, who's the guy,

and I'm doing, and each party it's a way, also, I think. But, you know, there's a great end of, where it's

pretty fast, and I think it's the grand axes, that you're going to hear talking during the campaign

electoral, the first or more, the people, the people who want to be the tax, normally it's the right, and the people who want to make, it's

plus a goche, it's because, and it's, because you pay the tax, but more you'll have a functionaire, more you'll have to have a lot, all the expenses, of subvention, etc., all the deposits, all the difference, you know, and it's the contrary, you know, because we'll have to be able to lose more money in your poachers. After that, by example, exploit our resources, but normally, it's more the right that's going to say, economically, yeah, you have to exploit our gas natural, and Quebec, we'll create

an employment, we'll create a wealth, we'll be more autonomous, we'll to do Quebec, a super-pupusance energetic. The people are doing to do a number of reasons environmental,

we don't know, the reason that's a health. We're going to say, at the right, we're going to

say, it's a point of the right, we're not, we're not going to the public, to have the access to the health, even if

it's the public that's a card of the insurance, malady, but it's kind of the right, because you have the

private who offers and the service and concurrence to the government. At the

they're going to say, no, it's the contrary. He's absolutely to guard a monopoly public. The private in-sant-saintiff, it's going to have to be an inequity, et cetera. So, grosso-modo, it's, it's the big axis that you're going to

hear of the right. It's about to position it. Yeah, after that, yeah, after that, and then, you know, Mark, the other, everywhere in the world, they're doing

if we're all over to ask them to ask, if you're asking the question, and if I'm doing the way and the ones, so, the people are, like, per die the notion

of the notion of because it had the because it had the PQ and you had the party liberal, so that's sovereignty or federalists, so.

So, so so, so, there's questions that, there's been people who are there's always and there's so that's

for that I think that's important to say, well, I'm going to ask you, the question. The question?

The question, you know, my note, okay, but a controversy that's a one of your candidates,

what's that what you're what you're saying, that's a question. There's a of times you're going to say,

well, it's the end up the fact, you know, there's a lot of I think that's not legal. It's a person

who would have been asked to murder, someone, someone who has, someone who has done, really, a crime,

that you know, that can be that's been that's been so, yeah, so I'm that the person

could have had been having been to have been to be done in a bad, so at 20

and it has been there's not there, we're not, it's not that's not that I'm

not, but if the person did something of criminal, legally, I think that you can't

pardoning. There's a thing, I'm content to talk to say, because today we're all of these social,

and we're all of the things that we regret a or that's when you look at the time,

a couple of a couple of more of a couple of more of years, and there just a question of

so we've passed this exercise that you know, you know, four, five, you know,

four, five, and interviewer, and there, and, and today, When you look at the social social you find out of

all the other things, you know, and you're in a car who had sat in a toilet you're doing by their chums in a bar,

not in a bar, but in a hotel and he was all new, he had to have to have been viral, and the guy it's had made

a gross controversy and the time, the young, you know, today, he lived with the cameras in their

with their cellar and all, and so things that, it's all things, it's quite that's quite

that's that's that makes, it's but it and it it's, And then,

you're obligue to recheting the bad for some because you don't know, because you want to be able to

it's true, it's the effect inverse of what we because we want to assuring that we're to assuring that we're doing

to push it too it's in trying to have the effect inverse that it will diminish the quality of the candidates

that we're going to have been there's always to get over for these nisries in Kahnkemo in MNesry

that you honestly, he'd say, honestly, it he'd apparently, it's it's actually it's changed

to hear as a deputy, the parliament. It's all over the well, it's not a act of criminal. But it's not,

but it's it's a lot of, or even they're just retweeted an affair. But is what you think also

when the campaign electoral, we're very nervous, and if we see, we see, we're going to make a

to do it to play at all the ban, it's a question of a question of so, so,

so I think, but I think a moment, I think, there's a lot of these affairs that there's

that there's that some that a moment of the people are like, you know, I think that it's because it's new, the last election, and the other

avant, it's been a lot of but I'm feeling that's an impression that's going to be able to be and we'll say, well, we've done to take these stories at 10 hour, a vendre to

and after two beers that we're at, I think the people will be able to give, so I'm, I've an assayance by that, and you'll mark it,

and you'll attack not my adversaries to these issues, because we're... Because we have that there's because we're... It's so,

I imagine to make the selection of the candidates, now, you know, with all the movement Me Too,

you know, you know, you know, you know, there's a lot, there's a good, it's more than,

I think, because the quality of the candidates are more more, but when you get to the

social, it's not, it's not because there's a post that that's weird that you merit not.

It's sure. But you have to defend, you know, it's always, that's a

point, and, you know, retweeted, met, let's, partaging something

on to say I'm saying that you're that's the other, but it's, but it's, but it's, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you're doing the question, you're doing retweeted this. And you're reque, how much,

you know, that's what, that's, how many of years, that we're , you know, and a

back, you, he's, you know, after how, it's, okay, you say, okay, it's correct

that he had made that, or he had made a fete, he had made a fiat, there, you,

you, in the sense where it's it's a lot of you know, and to find out of things like, and so much it's

the mayor of them after after, excuse me, but you're right, but you understand what I mean, a fayette, it's not necessarily

that your life is scraped and you can be be able to do and you're a good there's a lot of people

there's, and they're there's a thing, and it's not because you're a bad job,

necessarily, you know, with what you there's a lot there's, there's a lot of, you're a new

a fayite, it can be a divorce. Yes. The divorce it's in trying to

to be the foyer some there's a lot of things there's a thing, there's all of

some of the but in the same time politically you'll not to get to get a fact that

that's because with the media continue the media social when you

have a movie new it's we're we're it's it's

it's because I think in the campaign rural all it's all

you're the look you you're the All the other, all the media are there. So, so, it's a time, so, it's not just me, you know, the Committee National of Selection of the Candidates.

And the affair that we've made differently this year, is that, it's an idea that we're in the associations in each other, you're in the same, there are you to do you know, you're doing these associations, who are reunists regularly, and who, they're going to do they're a fair, it's they're they're going to recommended

these candidates. And I had the right to refuse 25, okay, we said, there 25 circumscriptions that the chef was blocked, And I'm very fiat, I'm blocked to camp. So, sometimes I,

sometimes, I, and then I've done to, and then I'm saying, maybe they're going to be able to be not the candidate for

the reason. And the association, saying, oh, yeah, we're doing it and I'm trying, but I'm really,

that's really that came to the first time, we'd have no people who wanted to be to presently,

we had been a few weeks to try to that. It's a case, it's a task colossal.

Very colossal. So, this year, they've been been passed more Open and Fin, but they also have also had been

of the input of the part of the base, and that I think it's positive democratically about. It's a whole issue.

The candidate, the date limit, to have the depot at the depot of the time. I was sure I was

I'm sorry responsible of that that's, you have not enough signature. He's, he's still

a paper, the signature of the signature, the formule, there's something there's something there's something,

there's there's there's going to have seen, there's the people understand a calli

a bulletin of a new letter to do first you're in all the first of the first of the question of

you know, you have been in a letter approved, like you're really the candidate to be in the party in the so you have to

signy and then after that, after that you have all of it's a lot of that's not that's not people that's a

person, and who are the quality of people are they're insured on the list electoral. So you know

sometimes the guy he's not that's not insured to the list electoral or he's insured in an

address or so that you'd remorse that you're 100 signatures, he doesn't, and there you're there's a while, and there's a

20 that's not that's not to get to get to that's a little, they're saying, 120, 120, because when,

especially in the in the grand region of Montreal, you know, you're a bit a little bit in your question,

so, yeah, I'm in the end up the vote, to get to that, you know, level of

age, Eric. Excuse me. Well, no, there's not discipline, you're not

not at all to be disciplined, you, three, you're, you'll answer to a single question of the Nive Rue

Tien, that's the last I'll have see one. Trey, you know, do you that your

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I'll... Because your co-coated, we know talked about to. The art and culture, it's very point-tus. But this is my first often posed. Is it your last campaign electoral? I'll bring that.

Okay, perfect. I'll say something about that. When I've said, first, I'm... I've been a chef by accident. Okay? It's not, and I said,

I told us, I told us, I'm, I never viewed chef, and I'm a little context, I'm a little bit I'm in a matter of radio, there's a crisis sanitary to Quebec,

I'm not in accord with the orientation of the government, and you know, Mark, Lord, you know, it's normal that a guy

like me would be not in accord, I'm, I'm very at least, there's publicity at radio,

there just the government who does the pub, the station radio concurrent at where I am, these publicities because they're too

countered the government. I feel a pressure to me turn to my yule or say the contrary to what I think. I'm not capable to do that. I choose to

quit my job. That's a chance that I have, financially, I have not a part of the end of the month. I said, I had sufficient

of an economy that I was able to be able to that it's not alimentary. I'm not I quit my job. Adrian Pouliott,

my predecessor, as chief of the Party Conservateur of the Quebec, me say, I'd say, I'm going to I'm going to

think that it would be you who who'd be in the place. Well, I'm going to get to be in my son, and the first day when I was

talking to work, he was going to work with I said, what did what I said, what I said, what I said, I said,

you know, if you've said, if you've said that, you know, it's not question that you don't know in politics,

never I'm going to be to be a person who's in talking to when you're and it's real, me, and it's

and I've said, why you're in the media, I think that, I think that I'm a malad? I'd return never in politics.

I'd goangry more much to do you want to be sure to be sure of all the world, I'd have to be there

never, yeah, when you're in when you're in practice, you're to have to be to say to that's all right,

so, so I said, I said, I'm even not, I'm even not, why you can't that's just

the policy, that's the question I was that's a question, it's a good in the policy. But in the same,

it's like, it's a day, that, yeah, Now, he modigard, oblivious, so on politics.

So I, I rapped Adrian the same night, and I said, Adrian, I go not. I said, my couple, you know,

I know a lot of, that I said, and I said, to all my candidates passing, you know, your life to do you

have always past, it's been before, to decide to do that part of you have to

learn, and I'm to say, to all the person, to know, to any every single,

there, there's not a place in politics that merit more than your family.

So, so, never abandoning not those that you like me to do you like to do because the politics because the politics is very ingratte that, so, so,

so I'm in the end up with my candidates, when they say, my wife is not in accord, I'm saying, you're maybe, to be a candidate,

like, regs with that , because, you know, I'll be that, so, so, when we're in, and then,

he said, no, I said, no, I'd say, no, I'm saying, there's a business,

it's a designer, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, by the crisis, it was it was very difficult for

you know, because you know, you know, the people who are you guys who are not getting to get their clothes, so he was in trying to grugie in his economy. He'd sort at Cereyrear for maintaining his

enterprise aflo. He was at Gorge, his friends who are also, these other who have the same the same way to see he'd be firmed one in the other.

It was really and a night he'd come to his own, and it's he was going to go to get to go. And then,

So, so, it's It's a change my life. Because he wanted to He would say that we'd be able to continue It's not

I'm not and I'm going to get to be able to and it's a day he's going to say it's not a lot of sense there's a person

that's not you have a question, you know, you're saying, you go, it's going to change our life, and I'm

not right there all, you know, even if you're not, you know, we've chosen, we've chosen to be public, you've got to

you've been to make, what's, you'd say, what's, what's, did, Very, very rarely.

He has never had ever made a interview. I think he will be to be in the court of the election.

In the day, it's the plan for the campaign electoral. And I respect that, and it's a deal at

the beginning. It's just I'm trying to to put up to a point, but I'm not to be in

and I'm because I'm at his place, I'd probably have probably had probably had the same thing.

And so, when we're put this decision and that and we said, okay, I'm saying, we're saying,

we're consacry 10 years to service public and by the politics. Now, we're at Mishamine. We have 5 years made, I'm 5 years made, I'm going to make two elections.

It's my objective, it's so my ambition. So it's all it's odd that you're the privilege to choose the moment when you're part.

Usually, it's the elector who do you say. Yeah, it's a lot. You know, it's a lot. You know, effectively.

Some, it's very brutal and very cruel. Yeah, it's not very cruel. And, so, so, I,

I hope, to be able to survive at this election. It's what to survive for you? It's going to say, it would say, stay chief of the Party Conservateur and continue to be to be able to say... Is it means to be a certain number of deputies? Yes, I mean, I say,

I want to 12 deputies. I think that, because the regs parliamentar are that when you're 12 deputies, you're a group parliamentar reconnue. So, it does the rights, of budgets,

it does the right of parole, it, it does questions in period of the questions, it does all the privileges in commission parliamentary, it, it does the research, the communications. And it's, it

can represent the suicide who have voted for you. Because it's that's that is sad about it's five hundred people,

it's quite the parties, the electors who are voted for you, not are represented at the Assembly National.

Exactly. Our system is like that, he's not the proportionate, he's not the number of deputies that's the

party, which is kind of different. So that's my objective. But it's the night, if the 5 October,

there's not the deputies, you do you do do what? But I'm going to do the four other chief,

I think, guard, the last in the phone, you're 5, okay? There were Monsieur Legault, he had Dominique Anglade, there had Gabriel Nado Dubois, the three are more there.

There's just me, and Paul St. Pierre, by the Monde. Yeah, I see. The two, you know even changed the chef two times

since then that. Yeah. There's been Pablo Rodriguez, between Charles Milliar and Dominic Anglade. So, we're always

on it, you know, we're all in the sea ejectable. And it's sure that the party that would not elire to deputies, I think

automatically, the so on, we'll have of the people who will announce who quitted, that's, it would be the case, it could be the case,

it could be the case even of the CAQ, uh, the people realize not, but the CAQ is presently in a new

furchette where she could be in a remonsting with zero deputies, like she really in a zone

grise. So I think that's that could be that I'm not very honestly, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, but I think this time this is the one. I've really

the sentiment presentment that we're going to be able to the author. But I know there's a circumscriptions, where we have a very strong advance at the moment where we're talking, and with the time that

rest, it's a minute that I'd face a a gap really major, that. Is that you've been scared? Well, yes, it's sure. In fact, it's always felt fear, Mark Lord, even when I'm in the media, and we're always at a phrase to lose no job. Even, you,

you can say a connery, and you're going to say, to do you're doing, and you're going to be, to say, I'm, absolutely. I think, I think, I think I think, I think, in the world, I'm doing, I mean, I'm doing this,

I'm doing this, do you know, I'm not doing about it's not about it, but when I'm a micro, I'm not,

I'm retien, but how much I'd say that? It's like, it's a lot of in the head, I've always, always,

you know, that the first, the next that I'm doing, for it's the last time, you've been, to face attention.

So, there's, so, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, that I'm in

because in a campaign you're going to do you're in the media of the discourse deba, the body chef the fatigue

and there's there's a many people that's malnutrition but that but that's but that

you have to have some good things for you because your car has your body has been in

form is that is that you see that is a a marathon? it's a great

great great difficult and I probably probably maybe same

when I said I'm when I had applied like my my bouff I

have applied I I'm going to I'm going to eat chicken, because when you know,

you know, you know, you can't not always to be able to have to be in the snack, we're

talking to the time, the time, we've done in a campaign, it's a time.

No, so, so the, so the nutrition, is a thing, the other

thing I've had made that I've had done, and the other thing, is that I have been

in the election. Errear. Because my level of energy has I know. I imagine it's a combination. It's not just

just a cause of that, but the fact that I'd mal, that I'd dormed mal, that I'd stress, and then, and then, I'd not. A lot of changement of the way. It's a fact that when I was arrived at least, I don't be a lot of time, but the end of the campaign for me, it was very difficult. I'm like, a moment, my car

had lashed, I'd have been able, and I'd have no jubbts, and I think it it'd passed in my discourse, you know, I'd even a minute, I'd have lost completely. I'd have been able to talk. So it's a It's a part of the word And then we're even

Post on the moment And we said, What's the question? What's the... And all the chep To all the parties It's not as question What's you do?

You've got put to But the voice? But the voice, I mean, I've got to You know, I'm going to. I'm going to get But my voice, I'm aghast

And it's been I'm able to be able But I'm able to But, I'm gonna be able to be But the rest, I'm as far But the word It's precious

So, but you've changed Your Abit, you You had too Chalked your Abitutes of life. I've paid the

price. But now you understand, but it's a long marathon. So, so it's not just on

the level of the content. Even at the same of the life. I think it's that it's

more important that's the point. You have your level of energy should be the

high so it's for that, it's for some things, there's the last thing, we did

do the last time, we did get a party that's to do last to do you

have already to do you have to you know, you know, I think we think we've made seven seven

with more than we're in our own because the people are used to we're in front we're in front of video tron

but that it's a put all the energy the party and all the resources, you know how it's complicated

but it's but it's not a pointage we didn't anything to what's not because it's that's worth

because it and in the media we have we had that coverage of cover to the cover to the

government we've been we've got to maybe we've been for a time to have on military, but we'll have not

seven people with one of the people, and we're not at all the night it's at all the night, it's at all the time, I think, I'm doing, I'd have, I'm doing,

so, you know, you change, you know, to have an hour more alighed a little, because it doesn't a little bit, when you're in a day, it doesn't

not much more to vote. It's got to when you're in face, three, four, that you're, that's perfect. And, so,

the quality is more important than the quantity, in in a, in a case, for me, that. All right, I'm,

I'm trying to but you think to be the problem you don't even you're not, you know, I'm not thinking about that. But,

but the fact that I'm going to a lot of, so, even if I had had seen other chef, it's not

not the same like when it was very, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not too be able to,

he'd be able to see the port, you'd even be able to see that, it's a machine, I don't know if there's still if there's a lot of energy but he arrived

the night, he'd get to get to, he'd get to, he'd prepare to the food and he's put up, yeah,

yeah, yeah, when he'd when he'd when he'd a house, it's a suite, it's not,

I'm, I'm, to be, to be, to be, where you're to get, the suite,

you know, it's like, it's like, the best of the campaign, I'm, I'm in view a bit,

because that's what's the most, the politics, you know, the politics on but in campaign

I was all the time I had a role at each campaign Mark Claude there's a place in my organization and even by my candidates you know

we're still you know it's not too and put up on your bus it's still on it's really very gentle but I'm

abstonier if it don't derange but you think you're you're on a day? When I when I'm

put to ask this question that I'd say my my son my father is still he's still

he's always it's been it's been long time with four and he'd understand, and he'd

know how it's a entrepreneur who passed an enterprise that's a business, he's going all right,

but I think a day he could, you But you know. But you know. Oh, but it's sure. If Charles

in a point to talk to you know, you'll be a bit of time that you've been to

get to you know, when you think, when I was 50 years, I'm to get

not a fill rose to my life, I'd have a completely decusus in life.

With all what it's how it's It's like, who is I'm going to be. And I've got to feel like my fill-rude, you know, when I was 14 schools just to primers, it gave to do an idea

at the Quebec. The politics, we're coming everywhere at the Quebec. The TV, I was still to talk to, and I'm still in trying to do that. But why the TV, I think, that I've

understood to who I'm talking about, to who I'm talking, and why I was, it's a cause of port-a-port. Because the most best way to meet the people, it's when you cong at the door

they accept to you're doing, you present with your party, they're saying, they're not, they're not, they're going, they're going,

they're going to get the people, and there, and it's like that we're trying, what, what we're in trying to to propose, to

what it's and it's that it's, that does a sense more plus, the politics. The people

have some the people, the people, they're in the people, they're saying, oh, no, I'm going to

try never for you, but why, I've got kind of this curiosity, I was

not you'll not you convict, but I'm but I'm to understand, what's the what you're going to be

to get to you're just to be able to because I'm a human who's a human, you do it's a

society. After that, maybe I'm a maladroat but I'm to understand, and you know, that it's

that I'm served and it will be to serve until the time, and it's the port-a-

but it can be also a visit of when you when you when you're when you

talk, who's a , you're when it's a occasion to to go to get to meet this world.

It's that the political that's the fascinating, it's that in the same year, you're in a

whole sort of different to get to be many people that I'm never, I've never ever ever

ever ever because it's people that, we all we're all in some little

in the big little, maybe some people, but we don't know with all

people, and even with the social, we're always with the same people,

even the even the algorithms are you always with your same gang.

But when when you're in politics, you're out of your gang. Because, you don't the choice, you're not the people who are any of the

people who have any to get a number, and you're confronted to that. And that's the example, the most frappant, when I was

when I was present at ADQ in 2003, I was coming to the house, I shone, and it's some people that were in

some people, but not leger, not, you know, not grave, grave, and the person that's occupied to

to be in toilet, or be occupied to do other things. And, they've been open, and then, you know, I saw, you know, I can't

be able to talk to politics necessarily, like I'm talking to, and they're, they're even entoured, and they were, and I never lived in, you know, I've never, in my environment, in my family, I've never been,

directly, I've never been directly in contact with people who had some problems of deficiency, and, then, the lady, and had been to be arrived after five minutes or a few minutes,

and then, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, like to give a call, she said, I'm going to say, it's a question, you can't be,

you can't let you get to touch, it's correct, you know, they're not to talk about, they're not talking about

the children, they're normally, you know, and then, after I'm thinking, maybe, it's maybe, it's triggered, and

when I'm the impression to have an impression, to have been something of life. And if I had not

made of politics, never I'd never had been to be seen that's an example by me of No, but it's

that, we're we're to get in the intimacy of the real life of the world

in the same with this this girl, and I said you do that, you said, yeah, for me,

for me, she's a cent, I'm saying, she's a job, yeah, so you've got the reality. The reality

of this thing that, and the, people who she has that's occupied, it's, and,

even if she had done other things in life, even when I had never, ever, I'd ever

never, I'd never, there, and there's things, there's there,

there's a, there, but it's that the richess of the politics. And even the media

a little we have this privilege there also. Yeah, yeah, in the case I'm

in the best of the country, that's the heart of your atten and to

to conserve at the and I I'm, I'm, I'm I'm to live my

top of this, it's quite different, it's quite when I'm there

it's more than it's more thank you thank you thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

For what you You do you do, because you also you also, you slayve important, and I know the Quebecois, you know, thank you, thank you to me having to be able to

be here with you. Well, great, it's a pleasure to partage. Thank you, Rick. Thank you.