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Hello, all the world. Welcome to this edition special of Open Your Show, the podcast. Because today, I receive one of the partners. I had an idea that we know it more. It's a young woman who works with us. It's Karin Junkah. And I asked her, is it tend to come to do, you also, open your own, your show,

because we, we're collaborating together, but if we're going a little bit more long, And in plus, it's a woman of affairs very connew in Quebec. So it's always inspiring these

parkour, and she's always she's a little nervous, I'm saying, I'm a bit habitue to do that, but

I'm going to do it happen, I'm like the impression that we're going to discover a man grandly inspiring.

But before to her receive, I want to thank my colleagues who, this podcast

that, to perdure from we've started the third season. So I

thank you have to the coordination, David, who is at the creation in line, we're also

Etienne at the captation, and we have also Jeremy on social.

So, I'm thank you to be with us and I want to you say

for this edition special, place to Karin Johnka. But I never

had never been I never used to say, when I had I had I went I went I'm

going to get to get a psychological and it has made to chemine to more

understand. You know, I've never made of depression. I've never, I've

lived of anxiety a little like all the times. I'm the I've always

been in prevention. I've always been to consult in prevention. It's does that

this capacity to see the I don't know. I think I'm not I think I'm not too live with a presto that's just

when I live something, I like I'm reglet the problems and it's and it's a lot of prevention. Open Your Open Your Show is presented

by Karin Junkah the reference in Materials of Soins for the Poo, disponible in about 1,000 pharmacies in Quebec, and by the Mariclob, which is a space

consacred to where we're there's a hundred of class of mrs. Directed by these experts available on

mariclote.com. The games of your original and the edition couple are available all to Quebec and on

Randolph. It's certainly his name that has been the most of name in this podcast, Overe your show before the

debut. She's with us, she has always creed in this project. It's a firm of affairs reconnoed

in fact, there's no no proof to do you know that this firm of that and it's always inspiring

to understand where we are to where we're, so you know, but you're I present

can't even Karin Jonka salue Hello. Karin, I'm even to all the podcasts

that we made here. In France, there's been a moment of the article on the end of course, who is a artist French, who is coming here, and he said that's Karin Junkah who animated, who opened your game, because it's

presented by Karat Junkah. So, for you say, how you do do you find out of the ADN to open your game, it's quite, kind of, kind of sympathetic. Yeah, Karine, today, we're going to

have your, open your game, how do you feel? Hey, I'm, I'm I'm quite nervous, because I'm used Plus, to listen the people,

but to talk to me, it's not like natural. We'll talk about my products, I'm going to

my produce, I'm going to my own business, but of me, is the people are you because we

do you know because we're there's quite everywhere, yeah, the people me recognize, I'd say,

I'd say, I'd say, before it was like the name, if he'd know, but now,

now, it's me I'm having, by example, I'm not at a case, then a lot, I've made

to recognize, and then, you know, Shikosco, you know, you're in the front, there's plenty of people, and then, you know, I think I think it's true,

because often the people will say, oh, man, Madam Johncoe, I was seen at Mary Claude. You know, so it has been a long time that he's seen, so, it's

both, it's the fun. Is it an impression that you're a little the relive of Lise Wattier? Well, I'm never really percussed like that, but I'm perhaps

to arrive at a moment also, well, Lise Wattier, at a moment on a day, it's become wottier. I think it's my

proximity with the clientele, yes, but it's more in a other sense. I think it's more that the

women are more than my mode of life, because, well, it's, you see,

in the, the makeup, in the perfume. I'm more, I'm more, she's more, she,

she's, she, she, it's, she, it's, she, it's, it's, it's, it's,

I'm, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, you're, You know, I was young, I'd like, and my God, that's always liked, and my God, and she'll always always have always worked for the

women, also. She'll do again via a foundation. Absolutely. And when I'd talk to, you talk to and you're, you propose to take care of her. Absolutely, yeah. And, then, I've done my fashion, you know,

and, in any way, it's sure that it's a great adventure, and I want to continue. That's how it's been, well, it's been, well, at about 25 years. And it's

a little because I remember that when I had celebrated my 20th anniversary, I had

45 years, and then everyone said, I'd I'd I'd say, 20 other

other like the last year, and then I'm to get to my 25 and now

my 25 and so on my 25th and I'm to make to 15 25 more

so I'm so I can't not the same my future projects and it's sure

that I'm sure I'm sure I'm sorry I'm really several years You see not the end of the end of

no I'm not the end I don't know I'm not but it's sure that you when I see when I

think my projects my project you really really I'm really I choose I'm

in the fact I'm I'm so I'm much see my car

because I'm because I'm people of my level of my head the project

in my time but And now, we have that the project me touch and me passionn, obviously.

You're going to a year. You're ready to open your your job? Yes. So I'm even to explain

because there's a who look and we're listening to and they're going to be questions of generic.

The level gender, it's a question of order more specific. Niveau Roche is really

more personal. We have the question Patreon. It's the question Spah Isman for the abonies

Patreon. at the level eros and company we're talking of sensuality sexuality and sexuality optorrizo it's the question that's a question

that's important the Joker the Joker yeah yeah the Joker yeah it's what that's what's we're saying

we put on on the table and I'll ask you to ask you to ask you demand don't know

5 because it's so I'm I'm always an plan B so like a Joker it's a

it's a good plan B so like that the avion plentra not No, but in affair, it's

please, it's you can't you can't you can't please five, yeah, I'm sorry

I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not two three, five, five,

so I'll tell you and then of the cell that will rest I'm on choice

one, perfect. So, how your relation with the money

has to have has been to have been to how how you

to the authority what is your peer defect when I when I

look in the mirror I see and what importance accord you to the regard

of the other I think I'm going to I'm in a world of beauty so when

I'm looking in the mirror I say that I just

just I said that I'm I'm I'm I'm could say

I'm a period of my life I realized some but I had a difficulty,

at appreciate or to recognize that I had realized these great things. And I'm really proud of what I realized at my business,

on the level of my life personal. And I see a woman who's a woman who's but who is he's really. Tell me your

personal. My life personal, I'd say, the people, I don't just to work. All around the work.

Because you You work with your conjoint? Yes, it's that what happens, is that my life personal and my life professional are always intimately liable, because my conjoin is there, it's an enterprise familial, and I never

really to cut in the phone, you know, I'm saying, I part of the enterprise, we put the key to the import. My mom, she said all the time, when we put the key in the port, because it's an entrepreneur also, at the same salon,

co-hafe. We let what we do work, at the time, and after it's at the house. But I've never used to

do that. So my life personal, I say that the same time turn a well, it's sure I

profit the moment with my children, and now my parents, I talk to my my fays

are rendered these adult, so I'm always a little moment when I arrive at

the house in, let's say six hour and eight hours, there's

really my life personal because the children, they can't always live in the shows of the enterprise, but very rapidly, I prepare more the landmine.

So, I like, I am to work, and for me, to work, I'm bringing to work at a house, so, it's sure. So,

is you, have you always to work together? Your, my, Francis, yeah,

yeah, yeah, well, in the phone, we're encountered, and even not two months later, we had started our project of the farm. I was not in the cosmetics.

At the beginning, I was just in the world alimentary, but we had started rapidly a company together. So, I know not my relation with Francis in-door of what it could be without the enterprise. It has always been present.

And then, you know, my Francine, we're kind of a difference of age, that is not enormous, but it's apparently four years, we have four years, and then, he starts to regard the retrait. I'm not at so, I'm not at, so,

at the level personnel, he has like, my wife, he says, me, I want to profite of the life, I want to voyage plus, Karine, because I'm not, I'm not much, I've started, a couple years to voyage, we've started by a week, we've been,

I've been, two, two weeks, three for going to go to Paris, in France. But, but if you're always, it's always some of the time.

Because you want to quit the enterprise more long time? Or because you're more that? In the

front, I don't know, I don't I'm not quit necessarily the company, but part,

I have some people of confidence. I had, you know, it's like Francis and me,

but now we're not quit the company, there's there's no problem, all,

all, all I need to move to be able to be able to be able to more of vacants

a little bit more reposal so it's not a time where I'm to be able to you're going to start with

the machine yeah I'm repair with Francis because you know when you when you look in the mirror

there's like there's like you know you're saying I'm sure of my family, of my life professional

but your life professional if you're Tronpon. When you started, Karin Junkah, the products of beauty, you know, is it coming, or did you have come to, you know, she's your? I've never, we had, like, a veriare at the rear of the

house, and I remember always, we're down to do, to, me, and Francis, and I, I'd look at always what he'd, make sure, that I'd have been more than he. And then, there'd be a lot, I'd say, well, I'm After that, I'm in person, I work more far than you. So, rapidly, we've had a local, because when we had

done the enterprise, we've made an appell to these funds local of investment. And the first thing that demanded, is to have a local, a place of affair. And I think it was a good idea, because, there, rapidly, it's made each of our shows.

And at a moment of a day, it's a little, because the local, you know, now it's the mode, the bureaus, vitre. And then, at a moment of a day, we'd say, we're doing a beautiful a beau bureau

but in the whole you have each of your and in the two it's very

it's not a one of one of course so it's you know is that you have been

in a yes yeah yeah no no no so but it's

it's part of zero you know you have you have all you have all

you're all yeah it's part of a fact I'm I'm remember

I'm absolutely at the time it's at the time it's if you

if if you to make do things, it's absolutely a fax, and we had to get a

fact, I don't how many that we've paid that $300, I don't know, $300, but for

me, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, and it's so, we've

started with $2,000 each, I had $2,000, France, had $2,000, and we had a form

local of investment, it's, obviously, the fund local of investment, he would

in us, a belle complicity between me and Francis, because Francis and We're different, but very complementar.

I'm more the part creative, the marketing, tundice, he's really more more on level on the level of day to day of the enterprise. And, well, it's a good pair of family

at the level administrative. We're, we're completely really well. And, we, we, we, we'd probably not at a time complementar than what the,

that the, that the, the, people knew we'd say, and finally we're doing with

the time, effectively, you know, it's an company that I've never could be made

where I'm doing the company without Francis, is that? Is that that's the more

Fierre? Yeah, because, you know, like I say, it's 25 years, but

my Francis, we're in time- in time, we're doing on, we travel, we're all,

we're doing all, it's like it's like it's like, it's like, there's your things, have you

like an activity where you do you do you do you do you're to do you don't know

not much I'm not much and even it's special because we we're going to we're always

there's always plenty of things to say we're we're we're always we're we're always

we're we're going we're my activities like I don't I'm not many

I'm going going to go, we're going to go our friends, but it's our our friends common. We like to be together. But clearly, because it's not always easy, sometimes, to work together

and to live together. No. But for us other, it's sure that there's been some of special, is that when you're working together, when you're

there's some, you know, because you're there are these periods where they're more creus, there, you know, you're together in the enterprise,

there also. But at the enterprise, you can't necessarily to get your person, you know, I'm going to the enterprise at the house, but the personnel you can, like, you know, there's some, you know, there's

so, there, a moment of a day, you have, like, the employees have, like, not the impression who are, like, in our family, and in our affairs. So, so, I think

that we, I think, that the journey or what I said, there, Francis, here's what you do, what I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I'm, I'm

not really at the level administrative but I would like at my level you

don't mind because sometimes the people have to do you have to do marketing, they

can't make communications, they can develop these products or, you see,

it's more easy if you're not the if you're not so you're so much

so, so I'm very having to find some feedback but it's me

decide. I'm only to how react you to I've never been, you know, I'm

an entrepreneur so it's sure that as a entrepreneur me have found in a organization where I'm

a patron it's more difficult because I've been always been entrepreneur, I've worked quite

10 years as a professional in the world of the education at the Ministry of Education,

and I had, I had, in the future and I'm, it's I'd say

that my superiors, I've always tried to make bring my superior. I think I was I was kind of a good employee because when I did something, I try to do well do feel, but

an authority that me don't really, it's, it's, it's not to be an employee, but I have to have been a certain, you know, I want to realize these projects, if the person

me lets realize my projects, there's no problem. It's just that when, at the company, he wants to be the boss, or me, I'm going to be the boss, we're the two, we're just on the other place. But I'm not

too difficult with the authority in a way general. At the school, I'm just an ellive model. How did it? How did it? You know, you told that your mother is an entrepreneur? Yeah, oh, my mother, you're not a woman authoritar. I've not used

There are parents authoritative, but I like to be able. So, an authority that I'm impuged to move, that I'd probably not. But to have someone who gives me directions and who makes realize, that I've got to problem. It's like, perhaps a lot of authority more strict, that I'm, well, I'm an entrepreneur. I'm used to do have your affairs. You're an habitue to do have my affairs. So, I don't know, I'll return

there down. To have to have some of the authorization, and to attend the acceptation. Oh,

but I'm there's a demand of with Francis, but it's so that's negotiating. We're going to

be at my house, and I'm there, Francis, he's not on. Okay,

it's always like so. Okay, sometimes, Francis, I'd say, well,

I'd like to do, but there he's not really he's always occupied. And then I'd like, I'd like that, that'd authorize my

project. And he'd say, no, no, we're going to start talking, but no. And then, there's a few, I'm going to be to see, oh, Karin, I'm going to see, Francis, and Francis me said, no, let's me, we'll work on the dossier, and finally he's finished always by me say,

yes. You've got you've got to, you know, how to open the ports. But in your In your infance, she's in your

parents to have seen your parents, you know, is it like a matter that's like you transmit, and you,

the two. The two were like that. My dad had been more in the domain of the construction. My mother

had his salon of coiff. And you come to where? Where do you do? Where do you from?

Okay, the grand region of Montreal. Okay. The grand region, yeah,

and my parents have always, my my mother, her salon was all all,

his clientele it's all I'm trying with my mother, my father was in the construction

so the year, it was also to work with my father, I'd have had

somemissions with him, so I had some with my father, and with my mother,

and it's sure that I'm much the coiff and I'm and I got, I had three

three two, you know, the sole girl, and I was the only the first young,

in a world of um, sometimes I had a reason to find my place I'm the

I'm the I'm the same but I had kind of kind of character I'm able to

to me affirmly Is that you're the sole the son of your father and

your mother and that that said that was you rested all the and the

other sometimes parted yeah absolutely or there were there

there was there there there between a dozen of so I was really the

young and my frere sometimes he's met at three to me to he'd make that me to make

fashed. Is he he's protected? Is it the protector? Yeah, my friends

my frere me were also, but he liked that he liked to be to defend

Yeah, yeah, I'm trying yeah, I've learned, yeah, I've been, yeah,

I'm sure my father, my guy, my dad my father was in the construction so,

so that my friends, had more attention at this level that. Quo, my father, he was really really fair

to me, he's deced after about six, six, six, seven years, but he

followed, he'd very, so, what I was, what I'm encouraged, much,

it's sure, that the day, and, you know, and, you know, I mean,

I'm sure, I'd say, I'm sure, I'm, so, so, so,

the day, the day, , I've had like a void at the you know,

because I had been very he was he was very very all the project that I'm doing the

project that he had like, my my conseil had like, and the person who was,

but my bar was always, my mom I'm encouraged much also but there

had been destabilized a couple more for a part of that, you know, I'm like,

I'm okay, it's why why, Why, finally, I've demurred a company? Why I, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, you're a entrepreneur

in the arm, you know, the beauty of these women, you know, my mother had a salon of cooffure. I've worked with

her very young. It's her who, in the fond, I have a, very good, she's a very prepared

to bring to my clientele, very young, I'd give the coffee to the client, I'd pass the ballet,

I'd, I'd go to the roule of my And then it's all fun. It's, it's, it's these good souvenirs. Yeah, because she had let her enter

in her professional, she had opened that door. At a moment my parents were separated. When my

parents were separated, my parents had been more present for some years in my life,

and my mother, she was monoparental, and there I had very, in the front, my grandparent,

my grandma, and my mother, he'd because my her mom had some salon of coiffure, she had to be to work. So I'm, like I said, I've really

granded in the salon of coffee, my mom, I had made, you know, it's a salon of coiffue, that's a salon of coiffue, that's really, in long, and I was doing, you know, I'd make, you know, I'm made a little lid in arreire,

I had a little, a little pot to make, to find, to find out of course, I, you know, but I, you know, but I, you know, but I, you know, Inclu.

Yeah, I've started to work. So, you've continued that, in the whole,

without you don't know that you're in the point of the sense that you know, even if it's

given a company, so that's that part kind of at a point of the same,

it's like to be entrepreneur without you to put up to be to do that yeah,

and for me it's natural, the beauty, you know, and I'm remember pretty to,

my mom, my mom, I'm saying, Now, the clients, when they come here, they want a good mamma, Karine. So, yeah, it's not

you have to have their romance because there have the little romans, well, you'll have a little romance?

Then, you'll you want a little coffee, what's what I'm saying, you're going to, you're not,

the clientele, they're not here, they're not to us to listen, there's to listen,

hey, in a sound coffee, there's plenty of things that's there's in-s-a-vares.

Well, yeah, but it's a new of confidence, yeah, a lot of co-ofeu. So, your mother, she's got to be proud of

you when you're being very very, very fair, and, you know, I'm a great relationship with her, and

it's so, I've finally, I've finally launched my gam capilar, but, you know, I've really in fact,

in, well, for me, it's sure that I'm parted to all the I'm parted to all,

and it's my fashion to it's a celebrate, and, you, you, they're going to be lancers, I didn't, and at a moment

my mom, she said, it's, it's, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's not, she, she's, she's in her, she's in her, she's in her way, she's not, but she said, I said, I want that, she said, I want to see that, these products, so, so, yeah, I've done, the capillard, the year, and, so, it's, it's, it's, can't even an homage to your mother. Yes. My first cream of soin, it's an homage to my mother, which was the cream of genesse original

and the Capellar it's really yeah it's a whole my whole my young

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Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at amex.ca. slash Yanex. Ooh. She's called, how about your mom? Dian. Hello, Diane. So, what is you the more fierre?

Is that you always sent to the author? What's that you not received of your parents and who you've been making? And what's what has changed in you in becoming mom? So, perhaps we've got done me and don't one of the other because this is to respond

we're going to we're going to we're going to we're going to we've put to the advance what type of amourous

is you? Okay what's what has changed in me in a man it's it's really

because when I've met back I'm I'm not sure I'm not sure that I'm

a family. You know, I was like more even I had not an enterprise, I was

like the career, I wanted, I'm always always really really in the work,

and at a moment on a moment of Francis, it's like, clear for

me, that I want, that I remember of this moment that, the declique?

Yeah. So, I think that if I And I had, you know, sometimes you'd encounter people in

your life, and if I had not encountered Francis, I'm not sure I'm a family

today. And it's really Francis who's, like, open to this reality there.

And, I've never had the impression, you know, I've had a impression, that I'm

always the impression, that I'm always, I'm, I've been, I've been, I'm really ,

with her. And I said, how I'm saying, how I'm going to be, she's telling, she's telling, she's telling, even, malgris the fact that she had a salon, that she had monoparental. And then, she, she, she, there's, she, there's, sometimes, we don't want to, because we're afraid of what we've, that's not been what we'd, that we'd have wanted to have. And in your case, it's, the bar is telling out, how I'm going to do. Absolutely.

For being a mom, like I've had. And I was not certain. I wanted to, you know, it's sure that, you know, ideally, in life, you want to be separate. I think I've been affected by the separation of my parents. By the time, when your parents, they're going to be separated. My parents are separated when I was two years, I mean, I remember. For real, how much young than that?

Yes, I remember, because my father, he had parted, and I, I remember. Okay. Yeah, I've seen. There's emotions also related to that. Yeah, I remember. And it's young, there, two years. Well, yeah. But it's a time.

And my father had quitted the house and my parents in the case it's really a couple special

but I think they're coming together after a couple years when I had maybe seven eight eight

years, they were coming together for two years and after they they were they're still

so they it's they were so, but for you how you how you

did it I'm I'm like the two so when they When they're together,

I'm excited. But, you know, it's sure that's, you know, at a moment of a time, you do, the separation, you do you do you

do a life, after it and it's always, it's a time, and then it's not, there, it's not,

it's a good time, and then, when it's termine, and they don't let's because he

didn't, because he's always, they're still still, they're still, they're but

sometimes it's that the word's not quite I'm not I'm saying my father wasn't

like I'm in 24 in this moment my father he was there for the things

but he was not present for me I don't I don't I don't I think

not that I'm but I would have I've wanted I'm so

so and so so so it's so but it so that you're

that's that's that the person who is that was the person secureizing

it was your because she she didn't she didn't she didn't she didn't so she finally I'm

you know I'm doing to have someone in my life and that it doesn't not to to have

to live to my parents and more I'm I'm much invested at the

time I'm invests in my interest it's it's my

my fashion for me to but I'm I'm I'm I adore the school

so I I'd invest in my studies. After, I had invested in my work and I had

not a perception of the love incredible or the couple. And I said I'd say, I'd have not an

child, and it's very much, and finally, France, it's happened. So, what's

that has changed in my life? I've not been the more I'm the more,

I'm, more I'm, I'm doing my business before when the company

before, my first when it's arrived at her granded in my company with she was in

the park Daphne, who is my new year, she was an child who didn't know not too

to be caught, but I remember very I mean, I mean to work, and then after she

went to to the guardery. It's not what I know the most to be the

house, but, you know, today, they're not to get, they're not are, you know, it's

these beautiful who are who are they're in a car they're, you know, they're,

it's, they're, it's, it's, they're people, you know, and it's,

if it's difficult, you in this part of, to say, is, is that in the

place? You know, we know, we're all, we're all, we're all when I'm in the company,

I'd say, when I'm , we'd would be to be in the company, you'd not really,

not really, in the sense that I am I am not really to be in the I'm never

I'm never amy to be in the I'm remember when I'm called Frances Francis

I just give to give the let you get to let's get to let let's

see put to what to do say you go to go to go to get to

go and I'm I think I'm I'm I'm I'm more to be

that and that I can't make my things so, to have wanted to

be in the person, no, it's, you know, it's sure that I'd

like, I'd like, it's sure, I'm in, but it's not, uh, you know,

I'm not that when I was, it's 100% but you were very organized also,

when you were not there, you had, you had, you had an entourage who'd

have my mother? Oh, you had your mother, oh, you had, her,

had to her helped But that's a great security. Yeah, my mother, you know, the girls, well, it's so,

they've had good mom. My mom had been present. Well, more later, I've got who's been

who's who's also, but my mother had been so long there, so when I had a little

moment, the girls, they were out. What's you're doing, because my mother,

you know, he could do you, they could find me don't to my mom. What's She's what she has?

How she has been in mind? What is she has been a particular? My mother, it's a woman really introvertie, but it's a person who's a good person. It's a person

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, is always present her, so, she, we're being,

when is there, it's a person who digage a lot of a lot of chalear even if she is introvertie

she'll like me make make her and she she's some of her also

like the like the my mom she's not she she's not she she has

she had she had her she had her her her own she she

she she more 50 years yeah so she she never view

my mother, say, I'm not want to go to work, never.

But it's it's... But that's it's a transmitting, what I hear in what you

do, it's the love, you know, to be passionate for your mother, I imagine,

it's her passion. She was she used, even even even at coiff for the

pleasure. We have a little salon, we've made a little salon of

cooffue she she and she come me cooff she, she she's

At our moment, it's really the fun. Yeah, and she's transmitted this passion that, that that's something that's something that you know.

It's not something that you do for just do you do, but it's something when I when I was working when I

worked with her, for example, I, I, I, I, I thought that she had really the good hour, you

for, and especially the end of the Saturday, we were, there, and there there were there, and there

there were, there, there were, who attended at a port. My mother, she said, "'Foe partire!' "'Oh, mon. "'Noyle, the Fights

"'Ns, Noelle, my "'mare, it's these clients. "'Jurred a year, "'that it's all the "'that it's all the "'of, you know, "'the veils of Noel, "'it was often

"'the day of New Year, "'we had passed at a salon "'to coofer, "'coafed the client "'and we'd come at a "'mise, we'd "'webend at a ma'am, "'we had kind of pre-panel.

something, we'd have to be the day of Noel. It's really a gang of women, you're really, your wife,

you know, and obviously, Francis, it's there to be there that. But he's funny,

I mean, I mean, it's weird, he made much of the first, they'd say, I'm like,

okay, well, oh, it's a woman, oh, oh, I'd like,

I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'm, I'm like, I'm, Even Maya, at the house, my chine, it's a

family. The question that I ask, what type of amoreau are you? What type of amoeoeoe?

Yeah. Well, well, there, in the phone, it's sure that we're

always in the moments, we're working many, the children were young, but

I've been a year, I'm it's new, it's new, We're rediscover, because the girls have 18

and 20 years, and the first when we were, let's see, let's the end of the time, and we were like, okay, we're all alone?

Ah, well, let's see what? There's no there's no there's no, there's a house, so we're going to

get a coffee, we're, so I think that we're in these good years for

voyage and we've always with the children. There, we voyage together. The moment where we were the plus, before, it's when

I had these events at the exterior. Francis, it was at our moment. We said, hey, we're going to say, hey, we're going to, make, let's make, make some formations. You know, it's going to be complicated, find the toe of Quebec, to find some formations. Well, no, Francis

came with me. So, he parted. It's parted on tour. You're probably a tour. Yeah, Francis, it'd and then, we'd have gone to eat at restaurants, bon, wine, the spa. So it's this kind of

Amorese, that I'm I'm not an amoreau Extravertie, I'd say, but I'm not a syrano of Bergerac, no, no, no, but I think that I'm prove a lot of my actions.

I'm trying to take care of my Mary. But I feel it's interesting what you say, because these periods of transitions, there are not,

it's a couple moments, in a few months, a few years, to re-tombed on the sense that's the thing that's something that's

something that's retombed at two. You see, there's two, there's been there's been there's a and then

I'm more than the chum and then sometimes I said, ah, Francis, you've done that, with you

don't know with you, with you don't know, if you see, if you see, the first

moment, yeah, and then there, it's the time, we're, we're, we're,

we're, we're doing something, And then you don't have not to go to the way you know, you know, you're going to

go to pass a fine of a week, you know, not the great vacants, necessarily for you're

to get used in a good period. I like that, the period that I'm present about five years,

the feet that are a little bit with a charge mental. Yeah, the enterprise, well,

the enterprise, we have an company, I have, there are people who collaborate with me

confidence, who know also the enterprise. So, the company, as I say, it's always

innovate, you have always to move to your weight on your own, you have like,

gerry your life different in the level of responsibilities. Yeah. And then it's

it's almost a flove tranquil. But it's not again a flea tranquil, no,

no, no, because I could not, I could because after the time of the

time of it's normal that, that there are some of the things that are in some of the

things that are not to do you have not to do you know I'm not really need to be very things for

being so what's what's that's... I'm a good a good tisanne

a good repop with some with the amy um to have my my

my feet at the house pass to do to watch a film in family

I've got to get a moment to know it's an important for me to have an divan that we

can't really to really to everyone to be able to get it's these moments

that are important. You know, are the link with your family? Yes, I have

quite many many my am I see not all the time I'm many also

that I know I've been many also that I've many that's many that has been

more long time but I Entretien, I try I'm trying to have do time

I'm going to get in the house with their conjoin I'm I'm going

I'm going a little texto, hello, how it it's I've got not a

lot of time but as I get a little thought I'm I'll

keep contact. The times I reproach even to Francis, to not

entertain his amitiers because it's important can even it's the people who are people who are

people who are it's very precious it's because you can't you can't be completely who you're trying to they're trying to

you know often they're saying they're the same that I mean do you know do you understand that? Well,

I'm always to expect to not change I've never, I think I'm a person very authentic which is a certain that my risks

to change were probably but it's the fun to, it's certainly what I'm because my kids have not I've got to

I look at the company, yes, the kids, you know, they've been they've been at the house all the time,

I was, you know, my daughter, Daphne, it's been a graduation. And then at a moment done, I was, I was really

like, because I had an event, I had a salon of the and it was after the COVID, and then I said,

look, Daphne, it's been long time that I, I've not seen the cosmeticians,

it's a long time, I said, I've really that I'm really that I'm really, at a moment of having, she said,

you know, that you know, I said, I don't know how we're going to organize that. She said, come to get

my rob with me. And in the phone, Papa will come in, I'm going to me prepare,

I'm going to I'm going to tell you, and she said, she's correct, Mama, she,

and it's not that I've made a choice of my clientele or of my

cosmetian, but she, she, she, she, she, she, she, I'm, you know, my success, it's not a success that I've

done. You know, yeah, there's been Francis, there's my team, there have been my partner who have creed in me, there have been, there are the chiefs cosmeticians, the pharmacies. So, you know, a moment of the same, well, you know, there's a lot of time. And then, you know, and then, you know, and then you're someone of proximity.

You know, you're talking to your cosmeticine. I mean, I'm saying, my first time, you've got them to meet, you know, I'm going to, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're doing, it's you who are talking of your

products. I think it's interesting in your part of your entrepreneur to give this importance

that what's what's going on the what's who will want to do that? If you

do it, if you do it if you do the really, the truth, is that I can't

not be in the the same in the and I mean, I'm there's

there's there's there too, there's that an equipment that an equipment

make, in the They, in fact, accue my clientele, take the time to advise the products. Often, it's going to be their cut-to-kearch,

so they're going to propose my products. Even, they're saying, oh, I'm going in a formation of Karine.

Oh, I've got seen, Karine, in a salon of the shop, they're able,

they're able to say to say to the client, I know, I know, and I, I think,

that it's all the difference also in the experience of my client, in the

experience also of the person who represent my gam. And I could not do otherman,

you know, and to start what my clientele has been because there we've got still, I'm

still with a bit of a pretty, I say, a few a few a few, we're doing,

when we do you know, we're more limited in the launchments that we can do

what I think I think, at the beginning, when I launched my first

product, but it was like it's come, it's been new to me. The first product were quite of me. I'm inspired by my mother, of an amy to my mother, you know, my friend, on

the name, you know, I'm inspired to, but at a moment of an end, now, it's the cliente that give the tone to the

company, and I think that's because when I go on my social, you know, I see, I'm my clientele, it's a clientele,

it's a clientele, it's a clientele active, it's a clientele, you know, we're rarely that on the radio social, they're

there's a lot Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you have a community engaged. I have a

community engaged. So that's another thing, I'm a lot of I'm sure, you know, to see,

my, my clients to respond between them, you know, I've tried this product,

but use the product to that that's a plus that the social you apport

to to see to see to bring life before you know, before it's

not possible and it's not we we're not we're my clientele and I'm they're

they're really in the part of your success that the proximity I think

I think yes I think yes because when I'm when I'm because when I

know my clientele are totally to me want to when he's you know he's he's

they're all they're and the people if he's who's, I mean,

sometimes I don't count, not necessarily in the point in the point to do you, like I'm sorry,

yeah, I'm sorry, I know, because, well, I'm going to get the product Carine,

I'm in what's in that's the or, yeah, I've seen Carine, we've got to go

carine, but I see, I know, I think that you have used to create like,

they're used to say, even if she never not directly for you, she, she,

she, in the pharmacy, it's not your employees. My clientele, it's a real,

because of the times I'm often I'm often, uh, well, I'm often

the mother, the wife, the aunt, the aunt, the aunt, the man, the

or, you know, sometimes I say, she'd say, if your wife, if you love your

best, if you're a little bed of my, you, and they buy,

you, it's, it's just, you, it's just like, it's just like, it's just, it's just,

it's, I think that. Yeah, it's both to see the relations of the women of

different generations, but of the same family. Yeah, and it's sure that

my kids, more are more are implicated in the enterprise. They've

always been in the company, as I said, they have grown in the company,

and then it's sure that it's sure that they're more, you know, we're trying to learn

different departments, and then eventually, well, just to now, the two

have so much an interest to pursue eventually a career but they're

still still, they're still, my previous, I'd say, I'd

say, the two, the two see, they are able to be able to get to

eventually, now, it's how we're doing that. Yeah, but it's the other

generation that arrive, it's a other generation, and I, and,

I, I, I think that Francis and me, we're capable to do the place to see I look at

my employees at my employees at my level of my team, I have the employees that's

there's some people people, I think it's that's the richest, the richest to have

different generations at the level of the enterprise. There are there's some

there's sure, you know, all my products prevention, it's more my team to

me who have developed the products I'm there I'm quite collaborate but there

there are there are there are many employees that are okay we'll let's say oh I'm

I'm not sure I'm not sure but I'm let's because it's your generation and it's it's really

it's really I'm trying the cream hydrant defense plus C which is a cream

that we're trying to let's it's a cream prevention to the vitamin C it's five five

six years but it's it's not me who talk, you know, because it's not my type, you know,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in prevention, but it's a

super launchment at the time, and it's, it's my team who had all preview,

even if we don't know, it's a lot of success. But it's that's the success, maybe the

success of an entrepreneur, is to have to be to respond to the business, you know,

when you when you find a product, when you want to have someone there's to be able to

to have to be able to be. Well, yeah, he'll have this overture that and then your feet will arrive with also

with the other generation of the other need. Yeah, because the resos social,

yeah, you know, you're using not the people, you know, you've got a lot of

things. Well, you're very implicated. Yeah, but I'm, I'm, I'm the

fair. You know, the marketing, I'm like the marketing, but I I'd like especially partage,

you know, because of to know why the product, why I've made these choices,

you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, but it's the story of

your life, too. That's what is that is that you're not diversified in other

things, you know, you've diversified your gam, but you didn't, you'd have

been, you've been, you've been, you're doing, we're to be on the other

things, yeah, I'd put. But it was for me it's that I'm

sure, I'm assured to have a good base before to me want to be able to be able to

get to be because there's a idea I'm plenty. But I'm Francis who me

say no. You know, like the creative sometimes it is a countable

not long because it's a good idea but but without Francis

it's clear that I'd be like I'm sure a moment of a minute. You'd have had been many of the same. Nive rose. I'm on three, please,

Karine. You've been on choosy one. I'm chose more. Ah. Okay.

Because there it's more corse, also. Well, it's more personal, yeah.

At which place you feel you in plain possession of your way? Where is

you sound more? Have you have you negliged certain aspects of your life? And at

what you would you'd you'd you'd like that I'd like that. Well, I think

that's the place where I'm quite clear at the enterprise. Well, maybe the

moment where I would that's a time of the time where you were a time

or a moment or at a moment I'm I'd say that it's more, you know,

we're like I'm like I'm a, a, a, a, a,

a, a, a, better with the time. I mean, I'd return not in the rear, I'd say that what's

not quite, you know, but it's sure that, you know, when I said a moment I mean,

I've had, you know, my father had not been present during, you , a certain period,

my grandpair, by count, had been very present, the pair of my mother of my

mother had monoparental, And, well, that's It's been I've been gotted by my grandpair. So, that's

a period where if I could, I'd return to this period where he is still there, we pass

the time on the veranda, we were in the veranda, he'd fumed his pipe, the odor of

piped, there's always me to get to there, there, you know, the little

burgers, the little burgers, the tea hamburg, they were, he made, these little bain hamburgers. You see, when you see, you rewere at this age

yeah, and then, you know, with my grandmare, you know, like I said, like I said, you know, my passion for the cosmetic, yeah, yeah, the beauty, it's to have been to my mother. It's sure that I've always been in a world of fame, but my passion for all what is

the soin, the textures, the tisans, the syro, it's from my grandmire, and it's with her, I was with her, house, when I wasn't in coiffure, then she

had, I remember, she said, she said, she said, she said, in her sorrisier,

she got the curses, the feints, the feints of srize to make these tisanne. There,

after, she had got her little gum of epinette to have, so it's

really, and she made the same, she creme, she, she, she, she had,

she had, a, she had, a collection, had a collection of little perfume. At the time

they'd get to get in the catalog at every time that noel arrived, she'd

she'd she'd get to get to all the little little perfume she had her collection

and at the time there was also the ruse aloe the ruse of it's not like

today it was all it was all it had beautiful little mirror

the pudd that it's my grand man That I'd return

there. There's some there's a older that I'm come in my infance, especially when

I've developed the perfume. You've been been in there. Oh, yeah. You're like still,

but when you're still in when they were dead, how you've had been that, you've been

my grandparent? Well, my grandpair, you know, my grand father had been the figure paternal

that my father had not put at the time, you know, he made the

of a man, that my father, you know, he's a little bit rebel, so he wasn't present, but I'm not not quite to the presence of

a man, because my grandparent is so much to be in me, it's incredible, and he's deced when I

had seven years, I remember, it's that, it's that's been very hard for me, you, I had been

out of the house, he was in ambulance, and, you know, I've always been quite

mature, so I know what's he's on and then. And the day, the night was the night, my

mother had had applied the morning, and then I had said, I had been a lot, but I said,

okay, but I want to go to the school, you know, I'm, you know, it's, you know, it's, you,

it was, when I had the pain, when I had the, it, it's, it, it was, it was,

it would, to, and all, but it's if I could return in rearier, I'd return, I'd , I'd

retry, like, there's some of the period, do you have been in the same? Yeah,

you know, like my grand-mer, I have a bag, my grandpair, well, but the

souvenirs in, but it's so how the grandparents have an importance in our

lives. Yeah. Plus that I do the podcast this, you know,

You know, often we and it's always magnificent what we're seeing the grandparent. And I've

used the New New the New Year that I had had wow. You know, I was the

last year, I had some salon of my grandmair, it's so it's a fun that, and I

remember, they had a grand vitrine, uh, at the middle of the house,

the grand band of the night, I had my uncle who rested and my tant just at

coote. You know, it's at a good moment. When your when your parted,

you know, you felt you'd do you abandoning at the moment when you

and he had been in and he had so I'd have told that it would be

but, you know, I'm that's that I have really I'm really,

I'm really much, so, so. But when you're a man when you

can't I'm but at the same time, I thought that we had lost time and, you know, when you're more young,

then after I'm, well, I'm, well, I'm, when you're an adolescent, it's your friends,

and there, at a moment of a day, it's sure that when I started, perhaps about the age of

20, 21, there, I had a moment where I thought that there had a little

it was not occupied to me. And then, and then, And then, it was something, it's sure that, by contrast, if I had been to him, I'd conned at three, four

hour, excuse, Papa, I've got to be there, I'm going to, I'm going to be to go to gochee, you know, and it's a, and it's, and it's, and it's made in the fact that he's always been there for the things important, we've been able, we're able to reconnected

and then, and he has It has been a better grand papa than a father

that's you know, you know, you know, that's it's to be in this role

that. Yeah, it's really really been a good grand

papa. We've had, we've had put all to say, you know,

because we've had had been time, he's been there's

maybe, you're the month of until the month of January,

we're had been able to be able to to be talking, and to say the things, and we, you know,

we're doing, you know, there's there's a lot of, you know, there's a question that's a question to be able to get to be able to

to get? You know, the absence, is, is it has been to their presence with your Oh, yeah.

Well, for me. For you, for you, for you know, but it's important because, you know, sometimes we

can't say, but it's can't do, but you, in your case, it's been repair something that

has been repaired something that it's sure that he's sure that he It wasn't perfect, but, you know, there's one of perfect, no more, but, you know, at a moment of a day, you know, the time pass

when, самый, man, you know, the time, you know, the time, it's the time, it's, say, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, so, so, it's, you know, that's, so, you know, tauna, you know, to, you know, the people that

, you know, it's sure, that there, there's times, that's never perfect, but, but, the time pass totally when your parents arrive at

a certain age, if you're able to get able to retable the contact. It has

had to bring a bring a pay also. To resoud this link and when you say,

we said all, is that that's been difficult? Not time. You know,

not not, it's it's made, I think we had been a time

together. I think that my father, he had had been that I would say

that I didn't, and that I'm not that I'd not that to not

to not have been present. And he in the fond, what is he had

wanted to be there and he had just to be he was just

assurry that all correct for the future and as he said Francis

is there there So my father My father He made So he's He's felt more

in peace I think to part I'm trying That's I'm very Entoured And your

And your Absolutely Yeah Oh, my My Filles Yeah It's Yeah,

Well, But we No, But, you know, But, you know, You know, Sometimes, You know,

In fact, When, there's When, you're In fact, there's a to, you know, to to guard

a rancor or a distance, it rest, it's in it's in the, the brisure at a little part, you

and then when one of the two die, it's, it's not, we can't be able to

repair, but when we can't get an impression that it liberate something also.

If you can repair, it's sure, it's not always possible, and I, I've been

worked on me also, and I've I've worked on my young, you know, at a moment when I'd say, you know, that I had a certain rancun over my father, and that it was, you know, it's a step, you know, at a moment of a day, I remember, I remember, I had been able to

at the time, you know, at the university, we had also, of aid, and by the suite, I had seen a job, and, you know, and, you know, and I realized rapidly, you, I'm like, no, no, you know, I, you know, I want to live my life, I want to, I want always make what I

see on the fault of my parents and I'm I'm trying I'm doing I'm doing it

and I'm determined yeah I'm like no I'm not I'm not I'm going to read that

you've been a responsibility to say you're responsible to say you're not not attended to come

to come you've been you're not you're not because it's sure that you know we've got

we're we do all we do with our parents sometimes it's these things really maloreous and it's more

difficult to pass to on the other but when when I hear certain people say I'm saying

I'm like I'm because of my point in a moment of I've known I've seen someone

who had been really maltreated by his parents by his parents by some and this

person that me had always said I'm always I'm He'd rena soin of his son of his

way of the fact that you know, sometimes you know you can reproduce

what you have used but you can't also the decision to not the

reproduer so so that it's not person than that you don't

that you know, yeah and you get to get to search of

yeah you can you can live long time with you know like I

say my parents you even sometimes Francis he is all

mailed in my family recomposed But, you know, you can say, Oh, yeah, I've lived in a family

recomposed, but, yeah, at a moment of a year, it's you know, it's you're in a adult, it's, it's time,

and you're trying to, well, for me, it's been so, you're trying to and you're doing your affairs, and my

father was living, so I've put confirmed some, there's been there's a time, just, to be a

and he's super well, so we're going to pass to Ngo, Ira, his company. Okay,

Just to have done five, if you please. So you go see, we'll have some questions of the questions

you'll choose what you're to ask, what's the answer to give me, give me, give me,

give me, give me, give us in four. Okay, it's four. Okay, so. Perfect. So,

what importance accord you to the intimacyity emotional? Is that the sexuality is a subject

taboo in your family? What is your definition of the desire and what is your fashion

to demonstrate your affection on your everyday. Oh, wait a minute.

It's not evident that's not obvious, um... But, you know,

we're kind of about it's interesting. Yeah, if we have already about it. Um,

um, um, um, uh, well, I'd say, um, the

sexuality, is taboo in your family? I'd say that yes. It's

not something where we're necessarily open the subject but

that's a bit taboo so that I'm the most the most fair is that

I've always let's a door open to my

And even Frances, you know, and then, you know, sometimes when you say, well, you know, the fact that we're not the fact that we're not, you know, of a way open, is that a day, well, my kids will have been having to have to be able to, is, is she, they'll, they're going to, they'll, they'll come to me see? And, well,

at the moment where it was necessary, my Faye are going to me to see finally and I'm

and I'm I'm trying because my kids me say my man I'm sorry because

with Papa and you we can talk about so so that my friends

can't not in the end of you you didn't you

don't so I'm so I'm so I'm so I think I think that we were

more reserved that we're it's really so finally

I think we have even with our kids to open the subject.

And I'd say that the kids are more, I'd say that it's more taboo

at home. It's liberer the power. Yes. And is that you in your

family, is we talked to sexuality when you were young? Not not.

No. It was not something that we had been a lot about something.

It's like I said, you know, we're more reserved. It's sure that, you know, even the hypersexualization,

I mean, it was something that was that I'm, I, I, you know, I've always been,

in the fond, maybe more classic in my fashion to my way, and at

a moment to know, for my females, I didn't not how he would live an

hypersexualization because we're to say with the radio social, with the

and the, and what I remember is that they they've found in all they they've

found their identity. So, my kids, I think, I think, I'm

found, I'm a end up the point, I think it's there's

more in a fashion general, and it has not not the details.

It's not the details. It's not the You know, the choice also often Daphne will say,

I'm saying, I'm trying, I'm trying, you know, so you know, so you'd say, it's a definite also,

it's pattern amourous, she, she, she, she, she, we don't have been made

so bad that because that, at the end, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, Yeah, but I'd say that it's more taboo. And I think it's my females that make sure that we're talking more.

Well, it's a good, you know, it's an sentiment of confidence. Yeah. Dernier question, Karin. The question, opto-resso. Yes. What's the little Karine would say to the woman

that you've become? So, it's the little Karine who's, what's, what does, what, she said to, this dame that, in her. Like I said, I think that this

little voice that would say she's really really, of what I'm doing, to what I'm doing, for me,

the independence was very important. Maybe because my parents, justly, I've seen my mother, and I said,

I want to never depend of an man. So, the little Karine, she'd

have been to be able to be able to not depend not of a man? No, not to do.

But it's How it's really cool, how the infant is still in our convictions? Yeah. You've seen your mother, you know, I'd say, I'd never dependant. It's, it's, it's not. I mean, you know, if I rest, it's because I want to rest. And my mother, had had ever had to rest.

And she had ever stayed when it had been better. It was independent. She'd be independent. And I'd say, if my mother was an woman independent like that, there's no reason that, I'd be it's not, And the little I'd say, I'm really

Fierre And I say that I'm going to be my proper good parent

That's interesting Yeah I'm not I'm not I'm going to It's going to have been There's

I'm going to be able to me focus on me even and to be my proper

good parent it's not Francis who will be my feet that's my wife

I have a big complicity with her but it's not she's not she will she's capable to

me, I'm able to be able to do that's able to help? I'm able to demand to help.

I've never had ever never had I'm not if I'm if I'm a problem, I will not

rest with, I'll regulate my problem. You're able to be vulnerable? Yes,

no problem with that. It's sure that, you know, the way, they're going to say,

oh, Karin, is, they're in control, it's a person that, you, you know, focused on

the task, but I'm a great sensibility. Yeah, but someone for you, like like that

can, I'm not, I'm not not sure to say, we're not to say, we're the impression that's a

, you know, that's a woman and you're a woman, and that's when we're to, you know,

to, you know, I think, I think, it's a double a tranchant, it's, the people say,

but you, you know, but you know, you're still, but, you know, but you're kind of, you're kind of

a human with these and you, you're also, to be able, to be able to talk to

what you with the company with all the company, I'm never had ever to go

to go to get to get with Francis he could not we could not you know

an an enterprise a company is a lot of problems a lot of

stress a you know I'm too I'm not necessarily always

always I'm not not always I'm not when I'm when I sometimes even the

person even the is what the I have no problem. I want just like, just just, oh, okay, okay. And then I said, well, you know, the fact of me, you know, my marry, my, my, he has the advantage of not

to have me, I'm listening to, so, so, so, so, I'm not I've never, I've never, you know, in the field, in the phone. Yeah, but I'm not, I've never had been, I'm going to say, when I had to search of psychologic, and

it's it's it's it's not I'm never made to get to depression,

I've never I've used to the anxiety a bit like all the times, I'm the

many good period, but I've always been in prevention. I've always been to consult

in prevention. It's so, that this capacity there to see

this with a presto that's that's when I when I live something,

I'm reglet the problems and it's to make a lot of prevention. What's

we can you want to do you want? Listen, what can me

want to me want to the health that's what's what's

that's the more important the health and there and

again to have to do what I have my passion

be well entoured and continue to do good to do people thank very much for this o'bvre your job

it seems we're after to know it in the case I've learned it's really a firm determined and

and addante also so thank thank to everyone to have been there and we're

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