OverDrive - Auston Matthews sniping 50? | OverDrive: Sept. 10, 2026 - Hour 2

Episode Date: September 10, 2026

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson on the Seahawks' triumphant start, Drake Maye's disaster and Matthew Stafford's all-time ranking.... The guys are joined by Gerry diving into the Atlantic Division contenders, Auston Matthews' goal total outlook and Bryan gives his FanDuel Best Bets.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at bellairdirect.com. When Wilson is cooking. Hour 2 Overdrive continues, powered by Fanduel, Ryan Hasey, O'Duck, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, Jamie Noodles, McClennon, Al's brother still to come. We'll sneak in some jerrys, and there's Luke Wilson. Professional.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Pro-athletes salute. I mean, you called it, right? Sam Darnold five snaps in would blow his hip out, and you guys are finally way to just back door and cover. And I said it right before he left the airways yesterday, I said, Partsie. I think you have so much knowledge being a former NFL tight end that you can think outside the box because you know too much. But he, Dan, didn't do it yesterday, my guy. Great pick. I appreciate that, Parts.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I appreciate you having the trust in me. And I'll also say, I'm pretty sure I said verbatim. Doogie, check me on this. Seahawks by three. And Seahawks won by three. Some people know ball hay. Some people don't go to EPA. They don't go to stats. They're not worried about who's sleeping where, and when they're coming to town.
Starting point is 00:01:19 We just do straight ball knowers over here. That's right. And you and the baby Robin with no chirps, you guys, you're going to be under the gun in game two. Yeah, we are. And Al's brothers coming up in a few minutes. Big game tonight. NFC West. I mean, what a win by Seattle, but what a loss by the Pats.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I mean, that is a horrendous loss considering Donald's injury, the penalties. They had a double-digit lead. Like, I don't know how Vrable possibly explains that after the game. That is a horrendous choke job, in my opinion. Yeah, it was funny, and I touched on Jay's show last night, but beyond all that, Hayes, just the mentality at quarterback was, atrocious. Drew Law came on and his post came interview and they're like, hey, what was it like
Starting point is 00:02:08 coming in, like you said, obviously Sam Darnel got hurt. And he was like, I just thought to myself, hey, you know, take care of the football. We have a great defense here. Take care of the football and things will be fine. And you saw it all night. He looked cool, calm, collected. It was a slog. I mean, they were run the ball, play action. Like this wasn't a run-and-gun style offensive performance by Seattle.
Starting point is 00:02:32 but he was like, hey, I'm here to manage this game and let her defense dominate. And on the flip side, you know, you look at Drake May, he didn't need to do anything. He just literally needed to not throw interceptions. They would have been fine. Three picks late in the game, one worse than the next, forcing a ball to Dobbs, force them ball and third and long for no reason. And then we get down here, you're down three, you've got a tie ball game. And it's like, no, I want to be the hero.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And you lob a ball up? I mean, it's great catching wrong with a. Job there, but I was surprised, because generally speaking like a Vrable-led team understands a situation. And for New England, you're on the road against the Super Bowl champs.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Seattle, I'm obviously biased, but it's one of the toughest places to play. You're about to steal one here, and your quarterback decides, you know, he's just going to start trying to become like he's Joe Montana. And it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Awful. Partsy. If you are the former player and you know what you know and you turned into a reporter and you were on the New England side, and Hayes just mentioned Mike Vrable needing to explain this, but if you were going into media availability, who would you want to say to what the hell was going on out there, Drake May or Vrable? To me, it's got to be May. And, you know, I listened to some of the stuff he said, like he owned it. And do I think the sky is falling on Drake May? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Like, I want to be very clear. I'm not ready to, like, write this guy off. off. But again, they're going to have, as we've talked about at length, we talked about yesterday, they have a much harder schedule this year. And I think they can win, I think they can beat anyone. They should have won last night.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But the reality is, Drake May needs to buy in that, like, hey, there's games where we're on the road and we're playing great defenses, and we might need to win this thing 13 to 10, you know, or 16, 13 and overtime, where there's other games where they're going to need him to make those plays
Starting point is 00:04:30 because for whatever reason, let's say they're playing the and Josh Allen's getting after him. He might have to try and match Josh Allen. Like that's where I think was the disappointing part was, yes, it was starting to shift in the Seahawks favor, but if it wasn't for the turnovers, I think New England probably hangs on. Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, the picks were, they were really underthrown. They were the same pick.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. Underthrown, back foot, you know, completely unnecessary throws. The one at the end of the game is as bad as you could ever get. It's outrageous. Absolutely horrendous decision to throw the ball. Furthermore, he kind of ran into the rush, which was unnecessary too. The pocket wasn't really even collapsing until he went that direction, and he completely underthrew it. I mean, it was just all around it was a horrible decision.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And now you look at their schedule, they've got the Steelers at home, then at Jaguars at Bills. So, like, they're in tough here the next three weeks, New England. And I'm with you. Still a good team. Okay. But Drake May was not very good in the playoffs, horrible in the Super Bowl, horrible last night. They got to prove they can compete with good teams. They got to prove they can beat good teams.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And what's tough right now, if I were to put an assessment on Drake May, against mediocre defenses, he is awesome. You know, against bad defenses, he is awesome. But you talk about the playoffs and you talk about, you know, the Super Bowl and last night, the games he struggled is against top-tier defenses. And it hasn't been like, oh, you know, this defense is good. It's been like he's also been awful in those games. So, again, I'm not ready to sit here and say Drake May isn't a guy or who can't be a guy or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:14 But clearly, again, some of these higher-end defenses, he's got to get the mental's right because I think he has all the ability. And those throws yesterday are more mental errors than anything. Well, on the flip side, place yourself back in that room where you feel like, you feel like, you somehow escape with a win. Yeah. Then you get news. Donald's going to be okay. Probably missed week two.
Starting point is 00:06:39 They're playing Arizona in week two. They're going to win with Drew Locke. They play Washington week three. I don't even think he has to play in that game and they can win that ball game. You've got an extra long week because it was a Wednesday. Like what is the plan for the healthy Seahawks after last night? I mean, that must have been green light 101. stay the course right now.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Try not to get too fired up, but you said it. You got two games that you are significantly better than both of those teams. Also, your division rivals who are more of the threat are across the globe right now, but to punch each other in the head for three hours tonight. So I look at that right now. That was a big one, you know, starting one and O. I think it reinvigorates the fan base, especially the way it was like the – it wasn't a super entertaining game,
Starting point is 00:07:29 but the dramatic fashion that it kind of ended. It gets Sam healthy. But that being said, I don't, I think it's a huge loss from a Super Bowl perspective not having Sam Darnold. But like the next, again, if it's two, three, four weeks, Drew Locke can operate this offense. And the next thing I would say is, like, you're talking about getting thrown into the fire.
Starting point is 00:07:53 You got a new offensive coordinator that comes in without the start running back from last year, Kenneth Walker. And on the first drive, loses his quarterback. And for Florida, he committed to that run game now. And every time they showed him, he just was chewing gum a lot lighter than Pete Carroll, but just chewing gum and, you know, look cool, calm, collected. The culture in Seattle really is kind of jumping off the screen for me. Partsey, if you had Shanahan or McVeigh sit you down and said,
Starting point is 00:08:22 we are going with what you say, we have a game in Australia. when do you want the whole operation to go there without like getting too scientific, just your gut instinct, what would be the best approach? And who do you think with their two approaches has the best chance for success? For me, I would like what the Rams did. Show up, play ball. Like, I don't want to be an Australian for seven days, eight days.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Why, buddy? Why? This is where it gets like, it's a business trip, man. First of, I don't like Australian accent. so that's a personal one. Wow, what a take. Okay, fair enough. There's a backstory there. I just, like,
Starting point is 00:09:04 Parks, this is a strange one for me. I know. What do you not like about the accents? We can get into that. We can get into that. Who broke your heart? No, no. I know what's up there.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I got you. But I think this whole sleeping thing is somewhat of the modern world, and it's ridiculous. Okay. You come in here. You're an NFL football player. your job, okay, to talk about when you're showing up to a game.
Starting point is 00:09:30 You get a lot of people that are paid, a lot of money to figure that out. Your job is to be ready to go on game day. And how much, and we were pampered. We were unbelievably coddled. How much do we need, like when does this end? You look, it's like, oh, the Niners guys are getting there eight days early so they can acclimate and blah, blah, blah. And I'm sure that's great. And I'm sure all of them will be ready to go.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And on the flip side, the Rams are on some crazy play. plane that's deep pressurized with live flat beds and they're not going to, and it's like, you know, at one breath they talk about like football, like we'll play in a parking lot. But then all of a sudden this has become a national story because the Rams have their version of science and the Niners have theirs. And they're probably both right. But like parts, this would be my thing. Let me just say this parts.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I know that your Seahawks teams, if there was a group text at two in the morning from Pete that said, show up at the building, we got a game, everybody show up. and be ready to play, everybody would be. The only negative thing, if I got that text, would be I wish I had my long hair. That would be the only, you know, let's go. Yeah. That would be the only, you know, let's go. But them up and let's go.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It gets so strange in today's day and age where it's like the end of the day, like I get all of the You're getting hydration. You're getting food. You land. There's massage therapists. Chiropractors, like the whole foam rolling stretch room. You name it. They got it.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You need something. They might have a hyperbaric chamber. They'll have everything you need to be ready on game day. So I just, I know it's the national story. I just don't think it's that big of an ordeal. Both teams went a different way. I personally would rather go in and out like the Rams. I like what they said about not having to acclimate coming back next week.
Starting point is 00:11:25 but if I had to stay in Australia for eight days and suffer through that miserable accent, I would do it. Buddy, what happened? What happened? Could you beat a guy up with an Australian accent? Or you got your heartbroken? No, I, no heartbroken guys. It's just one of those things where like you ever, sometimes I'll be listening to these Australians and I'm like, man, this is just a tough listen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:47 What are we talking about here? Crocodile Hunter. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Dundee, man. Crocodile Dundee. Exactly. Luke, you talked about the flights, regardless of it. You have to get there and that.
Starting point is 00:12:00 These long flights, what's the protocol for the guys? Like, who gets the grub first if there's a buffet and all of that? Is there rules where is it like offense first, D first? Like, the kickers, like, last. You know, what is it? What's the protocol in these big flights? Yeah, honestly, it's funny noodles because one of the things I was envious of other sports were the flights. and the reason being is with the smaller teams,
Starting point is 00:12:26 they would all have these really cool planes. For us, and this is the vast majority of NFL teams, we're flying on a normal plane. It's chartered, so it's just us. But we would have kind of the thing in Seattle was, hey, on the way there, we're all in the economy section in the back. Now, granted, you get a whole road to yourself. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And it's, I'll be honest, the way back is mayhem. which is kind of wild. But, you know, if we won the one year, Pete would switch, but like the coaches would sit in the first class beds on the way there. And he'd be like, if you guys win, whatever, the 15 oldest guys on the team could sit up front. So it's pretty chill. Like you'd sit down, they got Gatorades on your chair,
Starting point is 00:13:11 there's snacks everywhere. It's not like a whole, like, like, again, you're flying pretty luxurious here, not a pretty big, like, hierarchy of who gets what first. I would say that the big, thing is making sure the FDA doesn't get alerted on the way home. That's probably the toughest. That's important. You've got to make sure
Starting point is 00:13:29 the authorities are cool with everything going on. Don't set that smoke alarm off, noodles. That FDA calling in it. Can't skirt that one. Like would there be guns on the plane and stuff? There's been stories of that in pro sports too, right? The one that was a bit strange was like
Starting point is 00:13:44 for TSA over there, they would come to our facility in Seattle. So on the way out, you'd go and we'd all joke around where it's like, okay, every like fifth person they would check. It's like we don't go through security and we always joked like the person
Starting point is 00:14:00 would check with like blinders on. Like they'd be like all right, you were the random person flagged. Then you're on the bus if you weren't even flagged, just straight on the bus. So you know there was a time where I maybe talked to a security guy, had a friend of mine flagged and maybe put something in his bag.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Okay. But the tough part was they still didn't find it. So I was a little upset about it. I thought I had a real nice prank everybody was in on it and it just kind of fell flat just didn't didn't land yeah it's tough um al's brother coming up here in a few moments and i was talking to dogy like i do every day and dougie throws a lot of stuff at me different things he's reading seeing thinking and generally i absorb it sometimes i say i agree sometimes i flush it sometimes i react with are you kidding me with that type of question i had a reaction to that today but i feel like you would see eye to i
Starting point is 00:14:52 with Dugge on this. Dugie was promoting the idea that if Matt Stafford has a great season this year, he could play himself into maybe top 10 status all time at the position, at the quarterback position.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I think that's outrageous. Top 10. I don't. I don't. He is not top 10 all time. No chance. I don't care if he wins MVP and the Super Bowl MVP this year. Let's... No chance. No, hey, if he wins Super Bowl MVP and Super Bowl. He's not top 10 quarterbacks all time.
Starting point is 00:15:22 How can you, how can you say that. I can give you names right now. Okay, there's five easy. There's Peyton, Tom. Well, I'd say Mahomes, Rogers, Breeze. Like, this, in the last 20 years, there's five that are no doubters. Like, Brady Manning, Mahomes, Rogers, Breeze, I think Josh Allen's better than him. You haven't even touched on the old school guys. I haven't hit Montana. I haven't hit, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Elway? Elway, for sure. I think Brett Farr is clearly a better. What about Stinky Danny Marino? Stinky Danny Marino? There you go. Brett Farv is a better quarterback than Matt Stoffordford. I love Brett Farv. I love, not as recent actions. I mean, Brett Farb back in the day. I'm not talking about the person.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But Brett Farv is a player for sure, but I'm not putting him over Matthew Stafford. He's three-time MVP, been to two Super Bowls, won a Super Bowl. He's got, he started three, three hundred and three games in a row, man. I mean, I had the Iron Man streak forever. It was incredible. Where does Stafford fit in for you on all this? Stafford, I'm like, again, I'd have to look over. because then you're getting back in the day where you're talking like Johnny Unitas and, you know, Stobach, you know, guys like that.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I mean, it's a tough combo because to me, it's like if you were to ask me to name top five quarterbacks of all time. Okay. And what gets weird with that conversation is, and this is a bit of a hot take, I don't think it's that wild. But if we're not taking in a mount of Super Bowl wins, I probably take Peyton Manning as my. first guy. Yep. Like, I don't think that's a crazy tape. No, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:16:57 The way he called his own offense, the way he thought the game. What five MVP's. Yeah. Like, I probably take Peyton one. I go to Tom 2. But obviously, if we're, if we're, I, I, wow. If we're going, you know, championships, all of those things, you put Tom 1.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Like, there's no doubt. It gets, but, right. I think there's an argument that Tom's first three, he was a great quarterback. but they also had a legendary defensive side of the football. And his next three, he was the main reason they wanted. I think that's, if you look at the numbers, I think that's a bit of a fair take. And I'm not trying to take anything away from Tom, but to me, that's kind of your one, too. You said it, like, I'm a bit, Montana is old for me.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Like, it's hard for me to be like, oh, I'm putting Montana at three. But he's better than Stafford, though. I would agree with you on that, but I'm saying, like, you know, modern areas. Like, I don't, I would take Montana over Josh Allen just because he has it won, but like, as far as ability goes, would you take Josh? Like, well, like, I think, let's just go there, I guess. I think Allen's a better quarterback than Stafford personally. Like, I just think he's got more attributes and the way he can run the game, run the ball, the size, what he does outside of the pocket. I feel like you would disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:18:20 No, it's just, it's a very, I don't disagree, but it's hard, like, it's kind of like the MJ versus Jordan argument, where there's so many different angles you can look at this. Like, I would agree where Josh's ability off schedule is way better than Matthews. I would agree, obviously, how much weight do you put in to Josh being able to use his legs and rush and score TDs? But I think from a mental standpoint, Matthew is clearly ahead of him, but that's not fair to. Matthew's played a lot more years than Josh Allen. So, like, it's just, and again, you never know, but it's like Josh came into Buffalo and has, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:01 seemingly turned that place around where Matthew, I would say, you know, Buffalo fans might push back around this, but I would say going to Detroit in the Jim Schwartz era, even before that, like, that's a blood bad. That was 0-16. He walked into a place that has lost every single game. Like, you know, that was taught. I'll never forget this, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I'm not joking. The year before, I think it was a year, two years where it got to Detroit, they made the playoffs and had to come to Seattle week one. So I want to say this was 2016, don't quote me on that, so maybe 2017 playoffs. And I was sitting there, and that was always a weird one, because all my boys back home were Lions fans. And after we beat them, you know, moved on in the next round.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And after that game, I remember thinking to myself, like, looking on the field and being like, man, the Lions players seemed happy. Like, it was the only game I've been part of where, like, we beat someone. And I generally had the feeling that they were like, oh, great, the season's done. We can finally get out of here. Yeah. It was just such a thing. It was, my ridiculous mind ended up going there a year later thinking it was going to be some sort of major culture change. So who's the real dummy here?
Starting point is 00:20:18 but you know that Detroit was with the same level as the Cleveland Browns. Right. Oh, 100%. If Matthew Stafford, correct. If Matthew Stafford's not there, maybe we'll have a different opinion of him, I don't know. Yep. Yes. Al's brother.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I love it. The antithesis of the Cleveland Browns is Al's brother. Do you guys think you both owe me an apology for all the negative things you said about my pick yesterday? Can we start this year off? Can we start this year off on a better number? They do, yep. They owe you an apology. Go ahead, house, brother.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I mean, let's be honest. The Seahawks, like, shot themselves in the foot the way we never expected to happen. They lost Sam Darnold. That game, five plays into it, was completely different. If you knew Sam Darnel wasn't going to be there, then I never would have dog the pick. I probably would have assumed that the Patriots would have won that football game. But they didn't win it, and you lucked out because... Nuddles.
Starting point is 00:21:19 This doesn't sound like an apology. It's not an apology. qualifying it. Right, Elsh, brother, that's important. You know, it counts. Let me ask you, too, guys. Do you agree on this, that you have the biggest layup of the century? Tonight, too, the game is in Australia.
Starting point is 00:21:35 What is that happening? You can't. Like, it's a completely different situation. It's, like, liquid, and it's insane. I don't know what we're doing with the moons and the time. Like, did you hear Kyle Shanahan trying to talk about what day it was? He's like it's Wednesday, but it's Thursday. This guy, I mean, I don't know what's going on in Australia,
Starting point is 00:21:56 but that guy is in an absolute blender. And I do think McVeigh is going to put him in a blender again tonight. I will say that. Speaking of which. I have a lean. Okay. Go ahead. I got a quick one for Hayes.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Hayes, do you also feel like everything that Al's Bro just said about Kyle Shanahan can be said about Al's Bro. This guy's got a lot on his plate right now. He's been very quiet. He's got some sort of weird armpit thing going on. Okay, is there a world where the real guy in the blender is Al's bro? I'm not feeling the same confidence. He's already, usually the moon play is late in the year when he needs a win.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I know. Like how much under the gun is this guy? Well, I... Let's hear the man's research. He usually does his homework. He always does his homework. Do you have like homework? What are you like, you said you have a lien.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Where are you getting these thoughts from? Rams 3.5. That's the line locking it in, right? In Australia. The line is down at 3 and a half. It's been at four all week. It's down at three and a half. Go ahead, Alas, brother.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I believe in you. And I know you can do, you know, multiple things of, you know, multiple times. You can walk and chew gum at the same time. I'm sure you've got a wedding coming up, but you also get a season to win. And there's priorities. Absolutely. Go ahead. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I'm ready to go tonight. Like, I want to lay the points with the Rams. I mean, we've been talking about this team, how good they are. It's been the greatest show on turf 2.0. And I think they're coming out in Melbourne, and they're going to show it at the end of the day. look, everyone's making this big hoopla about, oh, they just got there where, you know, the Niners, they've been there for over a week. I mean, I heard you guys talking about it on the show earlier today.
Starting point is 00:23:31 The Rams sent people over. They've been working on this for two years, two years to figure out the best time to get in there and be at utmost efficiency by game time. And I think they're going to be ready to roll tonight. And realistically, the Rams have just beaten down on the San Francisco 49ers over the last couple of years. They've won four of the last five games. They've covered for their last five games.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So this has been McVeigh's got to stick the last couple of years. He's ready to roll against the Niners. And at the end of the day, I think that the Niners, they're just getting old. They're injured. And I just don't feel like they're going to be very good this season. I have them pegged as kind of the NFC's regression candidate. Like, if Christian McCaffrey doesn't go off tonight, who's going to get the ball into the end zone? at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Who is going to get the ball in the end zone against that defense? Mike Evans? Guy missed some time during camp. Mike Evans, are you kidding me? I'm not kidding you. Nope, I'm not kidding you. Okay, well. How about Kittle?
Starting point is 00:24:32 George Kittles playing tonight. Kittles' plan, but he's a game time decision. How about coming off an Achilles? How about a little... Coming off an Achilles? How about a little rotational thing? We motion CMC out. We bring Debo into the backfield.
Starting point is 00:24:44 We run behind Trent Williams. How about that? How about that? Debo Samuel making a comeback. Partsy, these guys just don't understand ball. They don't. They don't understand ball. No, I'm seeing eye to eye here with Alice brother.
Starting point is 00:24:58 McVeigh has just owned Shanahan. Shanahan had himself some problems in the offseason too, right? A weird one that's still kind of. Very strange. Like, oh, I was looking at my phone and never mind. And something weird was going on with Shanahan. And, you know, whatever the travel. accounts for. I guess we'll find out tonight.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Sports science nerds are going to be loving the outcome of the game tonight because someone's going to be beating their chest. But I'm also not the biggest Brock Purdy fan in the world. And it's been really quiet on him coming into a new season for a guy that has always been a question mark based on
Starting point is 00:25:36 where he got picked in the draft, getting paid the amount of money he got paid. But I like the quarterback battle to favor the Rams. Miles Garrett, I think, goes off tonight. Lock it in, Ellis, brother. You make a great point. Everything across the board, screams, lay the points, Rams tonight
Starting point is 00:25:52 outright. Well, what facet of the game do the Niners control at this point? Like, I think you look at offense, defense, coaching, the line of scrimmage, the run-dust game. Last year it was defense. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:08 for the Niners, defensively, yeah, I mean, if everyone could stay healthy, you know, it's Nick Bosa five snaps in, you know. Yeah, that's what happens with that guy. I am with Al'sbrow. where it's like the Niners are a hard one to pinpoint because you say like what area of the game can they, you know, dominate on paper and they're older, but you look at Nick Bose to Dre Greenlaw, Fred Warner. If those guys are healthy, they can be electric.
Starting point is 00:26:35 But that is, at this point, is a crazy if. Big time. Right. Like a crazy if. Yeah, big time. And they're well, listen, they're a really good organization that finds a way to string it together every single year, even with the amount of injuries they suffer, and they've suffered a lot the last couple of years. But like Shanahan on the hot seat, do you think that's possible, or is that a little bit extreme?
Starting point is 00:26:59 It's weird because with Shanahan, and again, I do think whatever happened this offseason, you know, I'm sure that's not good. But it's also a bit rich when like, I don't think you can jam Shanahan when Jed York. Dude, no. I don't think the owner's going to be calling Amanda Riemann. him out. He'd get the trailer park in Ohio. I have something to tell you.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Which is still like one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life. Crazy story. Oh, man. I mean, you're down bad. You're down real bad. Jed was in a dark, dark place. Yeah. And to make things worse, he just had the worst gear on, too.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He had like some brutal, yeah. He had a Yankees t-shirt and like some badge sweatshorts and, like, some bad sweatshorts. some bad shoes with socks. It's like, dude, you own the Niners, and you're wheeling around a trailer park with 20. With Lucy.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Lucy from the trailer park boys. They had like $360 in 20s. Like, it was just a weirdest thing. Like, it was outrageous. I wish there would be like a Netflix, like, a episode of like how there has, like I picture it like the hangover. Like there had to be a serious,
Starting point is 00:28:18 of like 30 events that led to him being there. At least that's, I kind of go, I'm like, unless it's his thing, I don't know. Well, yeah, there's like there's 32 owners in the league and there's some of the owners have got themselves in some weird places. There's got to be a depth chart
Starting point is 00:28:36 of some of these guys. Yeah, totally. 100%. There's a list for you, Hazy-B. There's a list for you. That might be one, we'll see. I don't know if Shan An's, like, the tough part is if you lose, If you move away from Shanahan, who do you get? And he's getting scooped up so quickly.
Starting point is 00:28:54 He's getting scooped up. He's such a good coach. Unless there's a Ben Johnson out there that you think you can absolutely lock in. I don't know who's going to be better than him. I'm with you. All right, lock it in. Rams 3.5. Alice, brother, I love the pick.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I love where we're at. We'll be tied by midnight tonight, which will be just past 1 p.m. in Melbourne, Australia. Good stuff, boys. We'll do it again tomorrow with more picks. And then next week, as always. seeing you guys. See you boys. There he is, Alice Brother and Luke Wilson joining us.
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Starting point is 00:30:16 You're going to want to hear this. Jerry's percentages. I don't love being commissioner as much as I used to. I actually love it even more. That's the voice of a f***. Hall of Famer. Are you kidding? Have you been out drinking?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! You're all pigeons. Filthy, filthy pigeons. It's Jerry. G E.E.R.Y. All right. So we played this yesterday, and then Jerry sat on hold for 15 minutes while we started talking about different things, and we... Sidetrack.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yeah, we got sidetracked a little bit. So we promised we'd get to him today. We got a couple of hits from Jerry, and I'm already wasting his time. You guys ready? Yeah. Go for it. Five teams from the Atlantic Division will make the playoffs this season. Oh, five-pack from the Atlantic Division.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I'm going to say 35%. I just don't think you can fall back on last year and just automatically toss teams in again this year. I don't know. It would be outrageous to just say, oh, yeah, those guys are all going to be great again, and they're all going to get into the playoffs again. I'm going 35%. I'd like to believe that it's a lot higher.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I think, oh, you're right. Like, chances are it could be four and four, but I look at the metro. Carolina, obviously, for me, is a lock. they just, they're just too good. That is the lock of the century then winning the Metro Division. Lock of the century. I just, I look at, but, you know, to feel like Philadelphia got better.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Did Washington, I think Washington got better? They definitely did. Like that, that's a team that, you know, I like. Is Pete DeBore going to, you know, get the Islanders going? Is New Jersey being healthy going to be a team that gets, you know, something going? I think it could be four and four, but I think the Atlantic has the best teams. I totally agree. I'll be a little bit higher, too, but I'm not, I would have said Hayes and, oh, I would have said like 75%, maybe more, 90%, you know, looking at it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 But I'm lower on this just because of the teams in the metro that have gotten better. So I'm going to be 62%. I'm 80%. I'm going that high. I don't, outside of Carolina, who do you really like? You still got to play the games. Who do you really like, though? Like, Philly had a magical year good for them.
Starting point is 00:32:55 They scream regression. Like scream at Darth LaDar. I don't think he's doing that again. Pittsburgh was. Yeah, but Joseph Wall now. Thank you, exactly. How many games he going to play? We'll see.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Pittsburgh was the shock of the season last year. You know, they were phenomenal to their credit. What are they this year? You know, I don't know. Do I love Columbus? Do I love the Islanders? Do I love New Jersey? Not really.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You know? Like, I don't love those teams. You're right. Now that you said that, I'm exactly, I don't love those teams. You know what team that could be like the shock of the century? It could be the Rangers. They stink. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's got to be great noodles. I'm sorry, Jamie. The New York Rangers will be the last place in the Metro Division this year. I don't even think it's a question. But I maybe Columbus is a pretty decent. team. It depends of Varensky comes back a little bit down off of his amazing season. Fentilly, they've got to figure out his future contract, right? But again, the only thing I would say to this in defense of the four, you know, four from each division is we're talking about a bunch of
Starting point is 00:34:01 teams that have good players. Like that, like there's no definitive, like you could make a case for X, Y, and Z. I come back to the word parody in the league. There's none of those teams are rebuilding, are they? We thought Pittsburgh was last year. But other than that, there are teams that could end up in the bottom, but I don't think they're going to be a 58-point team any of those teams. That's why I think it's very hard to predict because there's so much parity now in the league. Yeah. And there's turnover every season and there's teams that surprise you. And listen, teams in the Atlantic could regress too, right? Buffalo's got to prove it again. Boston had a really good year. They passed a lot of things together. I was surprised by that. I don't think they're a great team.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You know, what is, obviously, what are the Maple Leafs? I don't know what they're going to. What is Ottawa without Brady Kachuk? You know, it's, it's, there's a lot of question marks as well. But, you know, I think if you look at the teams on their, on paper anyway, Florida, Tampa, Montreal, Buffalo, Montreal, Buffalo, Toronto, Ottawa, like those are good teams. Yeah. They have the chance to be five. like really good teams in that division. Agreed. That's why I went 62. Okay. What else you got, Jerry? Austin Matthew scores 50 goals this season. That's the heater leave fans want to hear from Jerry.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Austin Matthews scores 50 goals this season. You want to hear Chris Tanna first? Just get him to kind of let's see what he had to say. He's skating with the captain, right? Austin's back in town. Here's what Chris Tannov had to say. to Mark Masters about what he's seeing from Austin Matthews. Yeah, I think he's going to be amazing.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So he worked extremely hard this summer and put in all the work he needed to do to be how he always is and an extremely effective player and one of the best players in the league. There you go. Did Mark wake him up from a nap or what? Is that Chris Knoblox dressing room? Like, what's going on here? I want to go first on this. 70%.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I'm high on this. 84, two extra games here. Is that going to mess with any of the stats or the, you know, the integrity of anything in your minds? No. I mean, it's only two games, but, yeah, you could, like getting a 50, every year there seems to be a guy sitting on 47, 48, you know. He gets two more games. Yeah, he could get to 50.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I think if he's healthy, I still, you know, I think McKenna is a guy who's going to pass him the puck eventually consistently. I don't know if it's going to be right away or it's going to be right away and then a drop off or whatever. But I think if he's healthy and gets looks, he gets 50 plus. That's the way I look at it. 50, what did he have? 32. The early 30s. He got hurt, though, right?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Missed a lot of the stretch on last year. I'm going to give him a 50. 50 chance, simply because, and this shouldn't really factor in whether he does this, I think if he plays great and has 40 goals and gets close to 100 points, it'll be a fantastic year for the Leafs. Do you know what I mean? I'm not going to base success for Austin Matthews and the Toronto Maple Leafs on the simple fact that he gets 50.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Obviously 50 would help, and it's just like Vladdy. When Vladdy's numbers are inflated and he's the superstar and he's running the show, it seems like the team has success, but I think it still can be like a good, good for both situations if he gets 40 and has 100 points or something similar to that. So I'm giving him a 50-50 chance. He had 27 goals in 60 games last year, which is what? What is that for a page?
Starting point is 00:38:04 It's not a great. Yeah, like it would be over 84 games, about 40 goals close to it. Which, and again, that was a down year for him. the year before you had 33. 33 and 67 the year before, which is a... It's got to stay healthy. You're not chasing 50 if you play 60 games. You know, it's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:25 In order for him to get to 50, he's got to play 80 games, for sure. Like, you're going to miss maybe a couple games here or there, but he's got to play 80 games. And maybe that's a better question. You know, what's the percentages that he's going to play a full season? Because he's been injury pro in the last two years. And that is what has to happen first. In order for him to get rocking again, got to be healthy.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And it's not healthy day one of camp. It's healthy through the grind of the season where you're playing a lot of games. You have a target on your back every single night and you've got to fight through it. And like when he was at his best, the guy was playing every night. I mean, it goes without saying. You just can't chase awards. You can't be the best player in your team if you don't play. playing of. Yeah. So that's the first thing that he obviously would be focused on. If he is healthy,
Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm high on the idea of him scoring 50 because he's just, he's that good at goal scoring. Like he's that capable of finding opportunities. And I think the coaching change is pretty significant here too. You know, Perube was asking him to do different things. He was playing in different, he was killing penalties with Perubi. I don't know if he kills penalties with Jim Hiller. I'm very curious to see if he will or not. He didn't kill a ton, but he killed enough. He'd be out there late on penalty kills, and he was, you know, he's got to win draw. He's going to be relied on to do that. He's not always going to start in the offensive zone.
Starting point is 00:39:51 It's just not possible. But I do think, like you look at what they've done as an organization this offseason. Almost all of it points to them doing it with the purpose of getting him back. Like almost all of it. They turned over the front office, the coaching staff, half of the roster. You know, they took McKenna first overall, not that they should not have. I'm not saying they should have taken Stenberg or a defenseman or something like that. But I think McKenna was a clear-cut pick with the idea of him resuscitating his goal-scoring career.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And like Matthews is the guy. It's everything that they've done has been to prop him up and get him back. That's what they've done. And they're begging that he can do it. They're praying he could do it. Obviously, they want him to do it. and if he can do it, then he will
Starting point is 00:40:44 basically make them all look like geniuses, you know, because then they're probably going to make the playoffs again, and then everyone's going to be kumbaya down at MLSC, right? It all, it just, all of it revolves around 34
Starting point is 00:40:57 and getting them back, almost everything they've done. So, let's see. All right, Jerry, good stuff. You got more Jerry's in the tank.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I think we can get to those probably tomorrow. Yeah, but when we come back, I want to play you the latest Leon Dry Sey Cytal clip. Oh, we have a new one. Nice.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yes. Okay, good. I love that. All right. Great. So we got some more Leon drysidal audio to play. Got our best bets coming up. And we got Thursday night football.
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Starting point is 00:42:12 Best bets powered by Fanduel. Make your picks and assemble the same game parlay in seconds on the Fandau Sportsbook. Yeah, on the Rams tonight, laying the points. Three and a half. It's a tough divisional game. Niners are always a good team. Rams have just played very well against them in past years. McVeigh has kind of owned Shanahan, and I just like their roster better.
Starting point is 00:42:32 It's a neutral site game which confuses some things. And the book included, the line has actually dropped recently. It was at four for the majority of the week. But I'm on the Rams minus three and a half. Kyron Williams anytime touchdown tonight as well. I like Williams to get into the end zone this evening. You parlayed at plus 200. Love it.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Best bets powered by Fandul. Same game probably is available on the Fanduals Sportsbook gap. Must be 19 plus physically located in Ontario. You think this is a layup though? No, it's never a layup. Divisional game. Niners are a good team. Shannon's a good coach.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Oh, you call it the layup of the year or so. I mean, obviously you just started. Of course. I just, I don't know. It seems. I'll say one thing. The 49ers, like, they're scrappy. They have been.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Like, they're not going to lay down and just get pummeled. They'll have something to say about it, whether they can pull it off or not. And it is going to be a weird vibe, and whose recipe is going to work tonight is going to be a big factor. Yep, for sure. Somebody's going to look like a genius. Always. Yeah, the sports science guys, like, they're battling it out tonight, man. This is the biggest sports science game of all.
Starting point is 00:43:42 time. It is. The Sports Science Bowl. Yeah, it really is. It really is. All right. So we got Jay's off tonight, back in action tomorrow. A lot of captain skates going on, right? Chris Crider is a free agent. I think somebody takes a flyer on him? Yeah, I would
Starting point is 00:43:58 think so. I mean, still had, I think, 50 points last year, noodles. And, like, you can still skate. He's a big dude. I would think so. Someone's going to sign him. He wants to get back to the East Coast. That's what it sounds like. I thought he had a good year last year. Listen, he's tough to handle.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Big, strong guy in a game where, you know, guys are, you see a lot of the guys. They're all, like, skinny and, you know, very lean because the speed of the game. Kreider's a, he's a tough guy to handle. Like, and if he could still move, which he can, you get him a million. You get him for two million bucks or a million bucks. He's going to help somebody. 100%. Yep, I agree.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I agree. All right, what is this dry cycle that you got? You have something new? It's just when I heard about Leon saying, I'm a man, like we're all men. I just thought of this clip right here, Joe from the Bridge. Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I'm 40. I'm not a kid. Write something about me or all coaches. You're right about a kid that does everything right. That's heart broken. And then say that the coach said he was scared. That ain't true. Come at me.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I'm a man. Let's try so. If they lose three games in a row and someone torches. Yeah, whoever it is. Like what a bizarre old thing to even be talking about the Oilers going into this season. And Mike Babcock is their head coach. Like no one had that on their bingo card. Especially after Columbus.
Starting point is 00:45:36 A year ago, guys, we had this. even in June we were talking about this. The Leafs missing the playoffs, Tree Living getting fired, the Oilers having Babcock, there are some bizarre world like storylines here in the last, what is it, the last six months,
Starting point is 00:45:55 do you want to call it? Oh, for sure. Six months of the hockey. I mean, Quinn Hughes getting traded, Brady Kachuk, you know, getting traded where at the year end, he's like, that hasn't come out of my mouth. Like, there's been a 10-pack of bizarre.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Our World Storylines going in the NHL. Hayes, you love it. I know you love it. There's more coming because Hallibuck's still waiting and Lark is still waiting. That Quinn Hughes, he throw the old, when the guy throws out the old, I'm in no rush to do this. This isn't like some mid-tier level negotiation where it needs this or that to get over the hump. This is a slam dunk. It's 20 million.
Starting point is 00:46:35 It's whatever years you want. And when he says, I just want to take my time. and you leave that kind of cake on the table, that doesn't look good. It's troubling if you're in Minnesota. Yes. I read it the same way. Doesn't mean it's a lock. He's leaving.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And, you know, he does seem like a very laid-back guy. But you're right. It is not a complicated negotiation. No. $20 million. Times what do you want it by? Whatever wants to be full-no move. Five, six, seven.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Full-no trade, bonuses on July 1st. Like, that's what's happening. When you're that caliber of a player, it's not a complicated deal with the negotiation. What if it's just a two-year? Sure. But that's his call, noodles. Yeah, you're right. But the point is he hasn't said, okay, I'll do it too.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Like he hasn't, when he says I'm just in no rush, that turns into John Tavares. Yeah. Trouble. It goes all year. Trouble, man. Noisy. Very noisy. Very noisy.
Starting point is 00:47:30 All right, good stuff. Rams, Niners tonight. Big one tonight. Jay's back in action tomorrow. More picks tomorrow for the rest of the week. Week one, it's going to be amazing. We cannot wait for it. U.S. Open continues.
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