OverDrive - Colaiacovo on the Oilers' cup pursuit, the approach to the Panthers and Marner's next moves

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

TSN Hockey Analyst Carlo Colaiacovo joined OverDrive to discuss O-Dog firing a 64 at TPC Toronto and the confirmation of the score card, the Oilers' approach against the Panthers, Connor McDavid and L...eon Draisaitl redemption quest, Mitch Marner's future and more.

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Starting point is 00:01:07 There he is. Whoa, look at that shirt. I love that sweater, but where'd you find that one? Okay. Had to be. This is what I got for witnessing Mr. 64 with the hat tip. Potentially 60.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Congratulations. So I figured I was coming on. You know, the face off. It was partner golf. Oh, Doug. Can you please talk to these guys? I've got better news for you. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I went back and I reviewed the scorecard. Now I sent the picture to Doogie, and from my knowledge, if Doogie can pull this up, we played a par 72. Not a par 70. Because if you remember, no no no no no no no, it is good news, it is good news. You know why it's good news? No no no no no no no, no, no, no, it is good news. It is good. It is good No, I don't like you should not have done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no hear me out. Oh dog. Hear me out Because on the scorecard on the GG ID They had if you look at it. It says we played from the white tees
Starting point is 00:02:16 We play from the black tees, buddy Black tees are a par 72 and they recorded three of your holes wrong You see the eagle you got on 15 where you tried to drive the green That was a birdie You see 13 when they had us playing it as a par 4 That was a par 5 and you see number 7 five and you see number seven where hold on a second hold on a second remember number seven I almost hold it I almost got a hole in one yes here we go
Starting point is 00:02:52 three of us birdied that hole including you and on this scorecard on this scorecard they say you got a double bogey you didn't have a double bogey that round no I did not I did not have that by anyway what are you getting at way to have a new all dot you do you have nine birdies off and one bogey okay so if we were a par seventy two that sixty four if we were a par seventy do the math buddy
Starting point is 00:03:24 still put them amount of numbers. I don't, I really think you guys are confusing this. Like the community is trying to figure out. Okay, Haze, Haze. I heard your first segment. We were keeping score of Lawton and Lorenz's score, and Lawrence and Lawton were keeping our score, and then there was a young woman that was following us around with an official scorecard. Right. And at the end of each hole each guy was saying what they got so she had to input all the
Starting point is 00:03:57 all the scores on it so clearly she got O-Dogs wrong. Oh of course she did okay here's here's let me set the record straight right now i don't deserve this man no no no no no no no no help you out here because on the scorecard it says you got an eagle. It's a wrong score. That means you got a birdie. And it says you had a double bogey in this round. You didn't have a double bogey. I witnessed the golf round of my life. Trust me, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I'm not disputing that. This is Mr. 64. Okay. Or it's Mr. 62. But here's, no, dude, you can't have different numbers based on what the par is. It doesn't matter if it's a par 54. Yeah, it does because it depends, it depends on what T-blocks you play from. We play from the blacks.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Which ones do you play for? It's not a video game that you guys, you played them. Just look at the scorecard. I submitted the scorecard. Look at where it says the pars are. Whatever the pars are make no difference. You struck the ball a certain amount of times Whether you're playing a par 50 or a par 72
Starting point is 00:05:12 It doesn't matter. Hey, championship tees Championship tees says it's par 70. I understand that. We play from the black tees, which means it's a par 72 Okay, O-Dog had nine birdies and one bogey it's a par 72. Okay. Odog had nine birdies and one bogey. Okay, then there you go. So he's 64. That would be a 64.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Here's what- Yes! But what are all those numbers add up to minus the X though? That's the X, I don't understand. There should be a number there. It was no number. And that's where you can go, just put me down for whatever. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Correct? Again, just like the other mistakes on the scorecard with the double bogey and i was all state it was a mistake because we all walked off the first t because we spent five minutes looking for scott lot in fall the confine by the green and she must have missed her the wrong person say the number okay so we we've got miss remembering around first half half all dot i got your back buddy i i i did this or not i'm not kidding around i
Starting point is 00:06:07 don't i don't even care anymore now you should have a look at it here's what i got out of the city is that everyone is a little bit of a minute because here's the reality notice you wouldn't necessarily understand this don't know if you're that's a serious golfer knows exactly what they shot every single you know what they shot every single hole. You know what you shot. Not I know what O-Dog shot because I was mesmerized by his round.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Because you're fishing half the time and you're doing your own thing. O knows what he shot and he can recite. 64. Okay then he shot a 64. That's what it was then. But you know know all as much as i would know i could recite every shot based on memory what i'd just played if it's a career i could say off off one i sprayed it over here that i chopped it out by two-parted park
Starting point is 00:06:56 every golfer knows what they shot and how they play all knows always the final word you tell us. 64? It's a 64 for life. Guys I'm not even kidding around. It could be 75 now. I really don't care.
Starting point is 00:07:12 No, stop it. O dog? O dog, stop. All I know, this is what I know. It's all on video. It's all on video. You shot 64. CORE, Hayes, all I know is the very first hole I played was the 16th hole.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I three-putted for Bowie. That's the only blemish I had on the card. Everything else was a par or a birdie and a lot of birdies. That's all I know. So Hayes. I finished with three birdies and Scott Lies Scott Lawton shook my hand he goes buddy You just shot 64 and I said Okay, that's incredible, and that's what it was yeah, that's what it was and that's amazing and that's honestly you want to hear the funniest
Starting point is 00:07:54 Story about the Stanley Cup finals hold on hold on I want to put a bow on this At the end of the route when Scott Lawton came to the cart and said oh, Doug At the end of the route when Scott Lawton came to the cart and said, Oh, Doug, you shot 64. That is insane. I looked at old and I'm like, dude, are you that's insane? I've never seen a round of golf like this in my life. And I didn't want to say anything during the round because this guy was just on fire. Hey, I've never yelled bang so many times on the golf course. OK, all right.
Starting point is 00:08:22 As we're driving off, he turns to me and he goes you know what I don't even feel like I played good today I'm like hey oh last time I played with you you're using a different putter is this a you skin a new putter he goes first time today Pulls out a new putter the zero torque spider from tailor-made and rolls in a 60 it was Case dismissed this guy was I love it Clinical I love it a lot of leafs were there I noticed how about Willie and his brother winning the thing dude I'm not kidding you William Nylander and his brother showed up 55 seconds before tee off. Yeah, they had slippers on and It looked I'm didn't hit a ball and they won the thing. Yeah, like they that's what they did
Starting point is 00:09:19 They won the thing hey on the playoff hole They were sharing the same wedge. Yeah, it was like they had seven clubs between the two of them All right, well that I need to be reviewed I get the impression like some people need to review that anyway All right, Carla. Where are we out here with the cup final? Where where where does your head go first when you consider were back where we started this time last year Edmonton, Florida You know looking at this series and looking at the playoffs as a whole is There a better home ice advantage than what Edmonton has right now The wind their wind total would suggest that the answer is quite obvious
Starting point is 00:10:02 I'm just they don't just just But just the atmosphere that's in that building, playoff time. And I think the difference this year in this series for the Edmonton Oilers is that they're starting at home. Because last year, they got off to a rough start, didn't play their best in the first two games in Florida. And even sometimes in this year's playoffs, when they didn't play their best at home They found a way to win because that crowd man
Starting point is 00:10:27 That crowd is is literally an extra man on the ice And I think this year like I went into the playoffs and I said LA was gonna steamroll over them Then in the next round I said Edmonton was gonna lose to Vegas then in the next round I said Edmonton was gonna lose a little sad i've been wrong about it in this whole playoffs well okay then let me ask you this something to try brought to you by boston pizza canada's favorite sports for this playoff season boston pizza is planning the parade and has a new all-star play of many of you to enjoy
Starting point is 00:10:57 for pizza pints and fuck jobs visit your local boston pizza today who do you think is going to work edmonton or for i think that minton's a team of destiny this year and really the way the Boston Pizza today, who do you think is going to win? Edmonton or Florida? I think Edmonton is the team of destiny this year, man. Really? The question I just asked myself is, I've heard a lot of people try to predict this series, and everyone's
Starting point is 00:11:14 saying it's going to seven. In game seven, the game's in Edmonton. Mm-hm. I think that's very significant, and I agree with you. They lost game seven on the road. I'm the only one that doesn't think it's going to go seven. Everyone's like, oh, it's just got to go seven games. Doesn't have to.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I don't think so. No, it doesn't. It doesn't have to. I just feel like they are pretty evenly matched. And I don't know. I'm more worried that both these teams are playing Unreal and it's not going to be like knock them, drag them out hockey. Like they might be two one games
Starting point is 00:11:48 like that game seven was methodical, right? Like it might be, we might be looking at that. Now you're gonna have a blowout here or there. I just think that. And that gets us to Skinner for me, Jamie, because he got it to game seven last year. And guess what was the Stanley Cup winning goal? It was kind of a flutter wrist Sam Reinhardt so that's yeah so it's almost like he
Starting point is 00:12:08 could have solid performances but if he has little blips and games like that it could be so costly like he's just he's got to be dialed in because you know the other guy at the end if he can lock it down four times it's pretty tough man and think of all the energy that Edmonton had to use to come back into that series. Like if you go back and watch game one and two it didn't look like they were in the game at all and I just don't see that happening with this year's Edmonton team especially because they're starting at home. Well the other thing that I pointed out when it comes to goal-tending guys like Darcy Kemper was up for the Vezna, right?
Starting point is 00:12:45 He gave up five goals once this season against Edmonton. They got to him It was five goals three games in a row. That was it curtains Aiden Hill stabilized down the stretch and All of a sudden Keynes running them over Hyman all of like they get to Aiden Hill and he's off his game And he's pissed off and fighting them and doing all that last last series Jake Ottinger Statistically was the best goaltender. He had eight quality starts He was he was dialed in goal saved the Bob X expectation all that Edmonton found a way to get to him That's the only thing that if Edmonton wins they'll find a way to get to Bobrowski because
Starting point is 00:13:25 Bobrowski is nails like he is and he gets stronger as the series goes on. But you know I gave the advantage to Kemper, I gave the advantage to Hill and I gave the advantage to Oettinger and when it came to goaltending head to head and all three of those guys are going to be watching the games from home. What's your mini Jerry's we see Calvin Pickard in the cup final? I think you'll see him. He might be mop up. What? Yeah, I don't know man.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I honestly think that that is out of the question and you can't see him. Like if you see him you got problems. But they wouldn't be where they are without him. I get it. He was a fabulous, like he was a major reason. He was Scott Darling. Or not Scott Darling. Is it Scott Darling?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, Scott Darling. He went in there and won the series in Nashville against Nashville. Corey Crawford got the job done after that, but you don't want to be seeing him anymore well and group you're right group our group our started the playoffs for the washington capitals here they want hope became it it was group our that that uh... they went to to start out by differences skinner started here got hold because he was horrendous
Starting point is 00:14:41 and then pickered went in record doesn't get injured I think he's playing game one. Like that's something we'll never know. But if like Pickard. Game one of the last series or this one? No I'm saying Pickard got Wally pipped. Dude like Skinner was never going in for Pickard. He never lost. You know what we're saying they play better in front of them. They have more confidence in Pickard.
Starting point is 00:15:00 The reason. It's fancy how that situation broke down. Skinner went in because Pickard got injured not because he played poorly like we could legitimately be in a different universe here where Pickard is like worth worth the mini-jerry's the other way man. If you see Skinner, you're toast Pickard's a guy but he got hurt and to credit to the credit of Skinner He went in played very well in that second round and then was unbelievable against Dallas and now it's completely flipped. You know it's completely flipped but I agree with oh I think if Pickard's in the conversation
Starting point is 00:15:31 that is. They're in trouble. That's that is a disaster for Edmonton. A disaster. Yeah. Because it's never going to go the other who is it Alex Lyon and who's even the backup I don't even know who. No Vanecek.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Vanecek. Vanecek exactly it doesn't even matter it's the most of its you know it's paid manning's backup it doesn't matter because i could apply bob is the one point but uh... if pickered is in the conversation that's trouble but i i don't you know i'm not i hope that's not the case uh... and and you just you hope in a weird way goalies
Starting point is 00:16:02 it's never gonna play out this way but they're kinda like the like the refs where it's just, you don't notice them. They both play well. They just do their thing. Let this be the McDavid Dry Cytle show. That's what I'd love to see. Edmonton wins because McDavid and Dry Cytle in the biggest moments just refuse to lose. Yeah, they do. And it's going to be fascinating because everyone's like Florida's locked down.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They shut it down on their own zone they force dumps. I'm sure all the other three teams that Edmonton destroyed were trying to say don't let these guys have the puck don't let them do this and that and they just force the issue and they they make you adjust because they're not they're not accepting all they're tough in their own zone all they're big and strong all their physical they don't care man they just they're shoving, oh, they're tough in their own zone, oh, they're big and strong, oh, they're physical. They don't care, man. They're just shoving it at you, and you've got to react to it.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And against Dallas, McDavid scored that dagger goal. That was a ridiculous goal, the timing of it, everything. Man, that was a goal. That was like his statement goal. That was such a goal. That was Mario in Minnesota. That's what it felt like man the stop back like yeah Audinger or that was the Smith I guess yeah, it's that yeah in the corner man. That was an unbelievable play
Starting point is 00:17:12 But but you look at it throughout that series they were getting I mean, it's Corey Perry. It was Hyman It was Kane like they were getting you know getting it's the janitor there, 13, Yanmark. Yeah, he scored a goal that night. Yeah, like just guys like that. It could be just as simple as 29 and 97 say not on our watch, but they're going to need depth. Connor Brown will be back, right? You're going to need guys like that.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah, Brown's playing game one. Right, so you're going to need these guys because on the other side, we just witnessed it with Florida that third line Was as good at any line against the Toronto Maple Leafs that that Marchand, you know that Marchand line was unbelievable and Edmonton has to have an answer for that Edmonton has to have an answer for you know, whatever Florida can throw at them while Murray said, you we uh... everybody knows we're good defensively he goes we got better offensively
Starting point is 00:18:08 and any goes i think we all know the ebbington oilers are good offensively but they got better defensively so they almost like both teams got better at at their deficiencies so it'd be interesting to see how the sun holds i almost found it just as fascinating to hear drysidles comments when he was asked about the series this year compared to last year and he said, it feels like last year we were
Starting point is 00:18:31 just emotionally drained coming out of the Vancouver series. Going to game seven, two Canadian markets going at it and then having to step into Dallas and go six games, it feels like they haven't invested that much emotionally getting to this point this year than they did last year which Could give them a little bit more of a boost to knowing that You know they were there last year. They tasted it now. They're back this year and and the rules are reversed They've got home ice to start. Yeah. Yeah the maturity of their group man I mean they are the oldest team in the league, but
Starting point is 00:19:06 Dry saddle McDavid the way they're approaching this it does it does feel different It does look different, but you still got to go out there and play got to go through and do it With Carlo Coli Acrovo first up so we got a month until we have answers on Basically what the Leafs are going to do this off season. By July 2nd they'll have made trades, likely made signings. If you were to jump in your time machine and wake up a month today, what do you hope has happened for the Maple Leafs? What I hope happens is that there's change to this group. It's hard for me to commit to that hope because I'm in the
Starting point is 00:19:47 I'll believe it until I see it boat. And I know there's a lot of talk about Mitch Marner and if I had to guess today, my guess is that he's made up his mind that he's probably thinking about playing somewhere else. But there's so much that can change within a month that what if the Leafs... Coco, even if he was, like even if he's called and said, you know what, I'm going to come back and be a Leaf, what does that mean for the comments that were made by the GM?
Starting point is 00:20:18 We need to change the DNA of this team and then all of a sudden we're coming back, we're running it back? That just wouldn't make sense, sorry. Yeah, I don't know, I said this on my show this morning and I think it's also fascinating that there's a shift in ownership happening here with the Toronto Maple Leafs where Edward Rogers is coming in and inheriting a majority share of this team and I just look at the way the Jays handle the whole Vladdy situation where when Vladdy
Starting point is 00:20:49 didn't sign an opening day of camp, everyone's like, oh, he's gone. He's gone. And then within a month, they throw him half a billion dollars because ownership stepped in and said, sign this guy. And you just wonder if that same Position could be taken here with Marner where it's like you know If you've got 12 different 12 different people at a table trying to figure that out that same same idea is not happening Yeah, not to mention. I I just think I don't know if one should have an effect on each other But if they somehow do something with Marner, then maybe it's Tavares that they go just can't you know I just what if they trade one of the
Starting point is 00:21:29 other two or three they keep Marner and they look at a trade at the other three they're not talking about like this is ridiculous they're not trading Matthews and Nylander I just can't see it man I mean Matthews they're not moving off and Nylander is a year into an eight-year full-none move. Willie's not going anywhere. Like I just don't think Willie would wait. I don't like it and they've never shown at any point a scenario where they felt like they would make things uncomfortable or they would try to do that. You know what another reality possible reality is is that Marner gets the free agency or his group starts sniffing around what's out there and it's
Starting point is 00:22:07 not what he thinks is out there. And you know, I think we keep looking at it through, and again, this is up to the Maple Leafs too, though. Both sides will have a say in this, but we keep looking at it through Marner's lens of, well, the market and he wants a change, and that all may be true. And maybe that's already been determined like you said and If it is then it doesn't matter what's out there. He's going and he's gonna go find it. They'll make it work But it also could be about getting the most money period and there's a chance he gets out there and the rest of the league goes I'm not paying you a penny more than ranted it makes like you have 12 But that's it and the the Leafs, maybe they offered
Starting point is 00:22:45 him 13. And maybe he snaps back and goes, wait a minute, the Leafs, I can make the most money. I'm going to make the most money if they want me, if they still want me at the reported price tag that they were kicking around during the season. Just as I mentioned, Hayes, are you really after those comments going to circle back and say, ah, let's just run it back? I don't think so, but I don't know. I mean, when Tree Living was kind of pushed on what that DNA change means, he just kind of filibustered and, ah, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:23:14 You know, he didn't answer that. No, I know, but it makes it uncomfortable, or it would at training camp. If Tavares comes back at some kind of value deal and Mitch circles back and then it's like, what do you... Well, then there is no DNA change, clearly. Yes, I agree with you and I think tree-living kind of showed his hand there I would think but let me out I guess the question is if just one of them goes is that enough for him to be able to say I I changed the DNA I said I was going to and I did it. You think it's got to be both?
Starting point is 00:23:42 I well that's that's the opportunity that presents itself. That's the only opportunity that presents itself. I mean I also think that they've, you've got to deal with the Marner and Tavara situation but you know I think they're looking around the league too and you're trying to upgrade your team everywhere. Like I don't, again Morganilly has a no no move but if you're looking at both these teams that are in the finals and saying you know what is the common denominator that you know that yes there's depth up front on
Starting point is 00:24:14 both sides all of that star power but their D are active and they move the puck again that's that's something that you know they the Leafs don't have an elite puck mover you know and and you could argue that yes that's something that, you know, the Leafs don't have an elite puck mover, you know, and you could argue that. Yes, that's a totally separate part of the deal, though. Like I hear what you're saying. But I'm talking DNA. I'm talking DNA.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That's who you're just... Okay, I get it. But if Marner and Tavares are here and two puck-moving defensemen are here, is that a DNA change? I guess that's what I'm asking you. Does that count? It's a good question. Marner and Tavares are back, but two puck moving defensemen are here too. Is that the DNA change
Starting point is 00:24:49 that he's talking about? Yeah, I mean. No, no. No, because the DNA talks about guys that have been here for loss after loss after loss, not just two new guys that haven't seen it before. Sorry. Yeah, I guess we'll find out about a month. Lots of speculation. Lots of speculation. Should be a fun month. Should be a fun month. All right, RBC Canadian Open, how's the setup at the rink hole?
Starting point is 00:25:13 Get us a prep for Wednesday. Well, the setup is, you guys are going to see, it's awesome because we're there, but you remember in previous years, like the background, you'd actually see the green on the par 3 We have no view to the green there for and in this setup like you see the background the stand you see the t-box You see the fans that are gonna be there But we're kind of blocked off so but it's it's one of the easiest You know commutes from the our parking to The to the booth that we've had in every year.
Starting point is 00:25:48 It's literally two people to walk. Well, we'll take that. There you go. But, it's, oh, you saw the hole, you know that tunnel that goes on, you saw our booth up top there? Yes. When we drove by it? I mean, it's, you'll see, it's unique.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Rave reviews. Thank you for the rave Of what we're about to look at no idea. It's no idea what we're walking into other than we've got it It was freezing cold this morning. I don't look for you guys. It look it's gonna get hot man It's gonna be hot tomorrow. Good bring on this beautiful summer weather that we're supposed to get going June already man Let's go. All right, buddy 6 a.m. Tomorrow from the rink hole. We'll catch you there. Thank you for doing this as always. Alright boys. Mr. 64?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yes, the lawyer himself. Guys, see you in the number again. You know you're in trouble when this guy's your lawyer. Yeah, I love you buddy. That is the night of your fuel. Yeah. Alright pal. I have that in my memory forever. See ya boys.
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