OverDrive - Corrado on the Maple Leafs' roster taking shape, the goaltending tandem choices and the Hart Trophy race

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

TSN Hockey Analyst Frank Corrado joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the NHL, the Maple Leafs' roster overview, the goaltending tandem with Joseph Woll and Anthony Stolarz and the playoff role, the Hart Trophy race in the NHL and more.

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Made in Canada, played in Canada. On the free iHeartRadio app and at iHeartRadio.ca. It's gonna get loud. And there's Frankie Carrotto. There he is, Frankie Carrotto. What's going on, boys? Look at these guys, pro athletes salutes. Holy smokes, have you walked into Doogie and JP's room

in a little while? Have you seen what's going on in there? Let me guess Cologne everywhere. No, no, no, no. Not even Cologne could fix what's happening in there. It is a biohazard. I stay out of there. I don't even go in there. Like a complete biohazard. I think they saw a possum in the corner. Yeah, it's dark. It's grungy.

What's happening in there, man. It's like the forgotten part of this compound, right? We're up here at the CTVTSN kind of media compound and I don't think anyone else of Like I don't think there's been a cleaning crew through there in months. They're like I'm not going in. Yeah, I understand CSI find a body back in there and who ordered nobody will show up. Okay, nobody will go back I'm not even joking this This happened five minutes ago. I walked in there and I said to those guys, I can't believe what this place looks like.

And then I point to like under the table where it's like it's a mess. And then JP looks under there and he goes, oh, there's the back of the remote that I've been looking for for weeks. And he goes down there and picks it up. And I said, how does that, how does like the back of the remote end up there I have no he goes I have no idea but it

did and now I got it and the remotes back in one well like these guys refused to turn the light on in there too right because couldn't you turn the light on JP and maybe have found that thing like two weeks ago oh yeah there it is look at that yeah see there you go the lights on there it's awkward actually I need it off I don't want to be staring at doogie and JP and Owens back there creeping people out we don't need that type of behavior we don't need to see the light on we just need it dark and it's all good it's but the guys are back there grinding they're in there grinding yeah and in the morning like a rod 20 fingers

all in there just that actually could be like an episode of hoarders yeah you could get that room on an episode Oh, you see a wild scene in there man. Yeah, it's a wild scene And you ever want to blow this place to schmithereens just go in there and light up a dart and it'll absolutely whole building It is it's quite something quite something Wow doogies cologne is flammable. Yeah, right that great Are you a fan of doogies cologne? Yeah, like you come in and it always smells a good welcoming scent

I think he is like 40 siffing different kind. He claims he's got at least 25 I think was the last holly like that's a lot and he wears multiple ones at once which is kind of A chemist like exactly different arms different sides of the neck will have a different cologne Anyway, you're in here to do Habs panel tonight. Yeah a big one. Yeah because you got Habs in Long Island both teams chasing down a spot right now the Habs are holding it. It's kind of amazing and the Islanders are really starting to pick up wins anyway and they've had two comebacks like multi-goal third period comebacks. Which is crazy because they don't score. Exactly. They just they don't score and like Pierre Engvall is all of a sudden like a

Revelation inspired a man Patrick Waugh, but you know what's crazy for Montreal like the playoff implications like yes, it's obvious We're looking at it on the screen, but if they win this in regulation it goes to like a 47 percent chance that they're gonna make the playoffs if they lose in regulation It's down to like in the 20s We said I mean read anything with 15 games to go like we talked about that the other day stream Yeah, it's like it's an extreme if you wear it's 47. Okay, and then what if they lose two in a row then it's well

Now it's 12% I guess what does that even mean? I think it's based on who you're gonna be playing like down the stretch here, right? Like there's gonna be the potential for three-point games and divisional matchups yeah I hear you I get it and there's a formula and all that but it's all we're dealing with human beings and if they lose three in a row then it's so whatever your calculation was 48 hours like if they win a lot they're gonna get in went to a better job and i don't know if he's a stat and i don't know if you guys are aware of it i've always hated that that was stupid

well and then st louis like st louis vancouver tonight and then st louis plays nashville like three times in the next two three weeks like that could very well be six points in the bank for them if they just play the way they're supposed to right it's crazy what's going on right now yeah i mean tonight's a big one. You got Ottawa against Colorado tonight. In Ottawa, there's an example of it, the percentages.

Prior to the Montreal game, it was like, oh, you got a 90 something percent. You lose two in a row in reg. They lose, like they could lose to Colorado tonight for sure. All of a sudden they're going to start to grip their sticks a little bit. Yeah, now you lost two in a row What's going on here?

Like the wait those analytic analytics are kind of like captain obvious things just like the expected walls and the shot and all this stuff It's like you watch a game and you look back at the analytics. You're like, yeah, I could have told you they played like garbage Like great. Thanks. The numbers told me as well. Don't say that Well, we were discussing that in terms of the Leafs last night where you know, they lost the expected goal matchup and the possession matchup and shots on goal and I think the high danger scoring chances were pretty close. 14 to 12. 14 to 12 for Colorado. So that's effectively a coin flip. But I think the Leafs reaction would be

Joseph Wallet played very well. B, a lot of the shots maybe from the outside and you know they they looked as if they were pretty comfortable in the third period. I thought they played very well in the third period. You get a power play goal, you kill some penalties, you know it's not always gonna be perfect but I think they deserve to be happy with their performance and obviously that's a big win last night And it's not it's not flashy But it's another one in a long list of games this year where you could say it wasn't overly entertaining Wasn't overly flashy, but they found a way to win the game, right?

And like, you know I think you're always kind of looking at differences year to year with this team because of you know the narratives with the coach and how they want to play a little bit differently. But yeah, I just think it's kind of just like an industrious way of winning for them, where there's just nothing overly flashy. Wall was great. My big takeaway was Austin Matthews looked like Austin Matthews again, like using his body, getting into other guys' bodies, like willing to engage a little bit more like that's

if you just watch the last two games that the Leafs have played and Someone told you hey this guy may have been hurt or he may have been banged up You would say yeah, I couldn't tell from those two guys, which either I don't believe it or overcome those issues Now he's had a couple of pockets throughout the year where you thought okay, he's going up again He's starting to come alive and then you know, it's divved so it's on him to continue that but I would agree with you I think the biggest positive would be his game in particular the top line That top pairing of McCabe and Tana was a handful too for opponents like they're gonna play a ton of minutes like they're gonna have playoff games where they're gonna they're gonna play 26 27 minutes and

That's a big benefit to have. It's a lot of strain that's going to be placed on them because they're going up against the big boy. Like if you're playing Tampa, you're going to be facing point in Kuturov almost every shift. And every other night, right? Every other night. You know what Cooper's going to do too?

Like Cooper will do that early in the game. He'll start jumbling the lines. He'll move Kuturov away from point he'll move Gensel like he's gonna he's gonna be cheeky with how he trying to you know tries to get away from that matchup right and and yet Joseph Wall we haven't talked a lot about him today he deserves to be talked about he was exceptional last night amazing yeah he was so good and just poised and you know Stolarz goes tonight like I think Stolarz still is probably the lead man in terms of what you project to be game one starter you don't think so? I think

it's a toss-up. I don't think we're gonna know until like the last one. And maybe that was always gonna be the case. Yeah whoever's playing well going into the playoffs I think we'll play. You don't think they would have a feeling no one where? No I'm sure he has a feeling like if you gave him the the true serum like you did the lie detector I mean no parents day by day guys like right now. I bet you he would be thinking man I bet you if the playoffs started tomorrow, I might throw a wall in the net. Yeah, and if things flip next week It's the other guy. Yeah, and I honestly think it was always gonna be like that Whatever guy has the feeling of what Joseph Wall has right now with the coach, the day before the playoff start, is probably going to be the guy. How could it be any other way?

Well, you know what too? It's like, this is a great problem to have because this is not a problem that they've really had. They haven't had this caliber of goaltending. So either guy that's gonna be going in is A, gonna give you a chance to win. And what we've seen from these guys, they can actually steal you one, which as much as we talk about, you can't score or the power play dries up

come playoff time, nice to just get one stolen by a guy, which it seems to happen for a lot of other teams in the playoffs as well. Yeah, well exactly. And you know, either they've only had one option, like last year was basically Sam Sinof's got to play or Freddie Anderson was a clear cut number one and he's going to play. Here it is a tandem and it's somewhat undetermined. But what the point I'm making, or I guess what I'm asking is not the feeling based on what's happened throughout the season or even what's happened their last three to five starts

I mean Barube having a feeling of who he thinks is a big game player Like who he thinks can actually close the door because that's separate. That's different That's that's how you run into a Bennington situation where Cooper goes. I don't care how he plays right now I think we can get to a big game and he will perform the way I need him to perform. That was Brett Fuhrer's reputation forever. I don't care if he's struggling. I believe that guy has the wherewithal to step up when we need it. But you don't think either of those guys have gotten to that.

I don't think they, they can't, obviously not to Bennington or Grant Fuhrer's. No, but like any. I would say Joseph Wall has the upper hand in that category of- Just because he's actually started to play? Because he's actually played playoff games and played extremely well when he's played, when he's been healthy. It's not, I know that, but Stolars has not.

Yeah, it's zero. Stolars has zero to- Maybe Stolars has that gene, I don't know. But I'm just saying, Joseph Wall, I do wonder, and I feel like I might have an answer on it, that they might look at him and say, when this guy's on his game, and it's like a two-two game in the third,

I can trust him. Yeah. And that's probably gonna be a part of it too. The numbers would indicate that too. Yes, close games, one goal games, he plays very well in the third period. Yeah, he's really been able to hunker it down. As much as, you know, I think a coach is gonna look at

how they play in those situations, I think sometimes with these things, yes, it's a gut feel, but it's almost like, how does that guy carry himself around the room with the team? Like, there's, there's just something to be said for like, and I kind of realized this later in my career, but the guys that kind of walk around like the alphas coaches notice that kind of stuff. Cause they're not in the room every moment all the time. Yeah. So like they kind of catch a glimpse of you and they'll go back in.

I remember when they traded for O'Reilly. That was one of the things that Sheldon Key said like right away. Yeah. This guy's got presence. Right. Yeah. They pick up on that kind of stuff. So like, you know, the, the, the on ice product for sure is, is going to be, you know, paramount, but maybe there's just like something. If one of those guys carries themselves where it's like I guess there's something about that guy where I just I kind of just trust what's going on between the ears. I ask you guys for a Jerry's, oh it's Jeff actually. Many Jerry's. Percentage that both goalies play in the first round. I'm low on this because... Not because not because like

they're gonna rotate necessarily just because both goalies play for whatever reason the optimist in me is gonna go low on this many jerry's shown us because i don't want it to happen so i'm gonna say fifteen percent but in my head i probably know that that might be a wacky percentage to present to you. Yeah, I think I'd go higher than 50%. I'm 89%.

60? Oh, wow. 89%. That both of them are going to play. Presuming they're both healthy and it's not like a scenario where a guy's heard. The reason I say this, guys, if we're talking about Florida or Tampa, what do you think the mini Jerry's is in Tampa or Florida with Bobrovsky and Vasilevsky song both go? Obviously a zero, but I guess here's Florida had the the lion. Yeah, he started

Yeah, he started it and Bob went in it doesn't happen with Tampa But it happened with Pittsburgh when they won it happened with Washington with it when they won Yeah, like there's I'm thinking of like leash. So let's say wall starts game one. Let's say it doesn't go great. And he's like the reason they lose. He's starting game two. It's like, it's like, yeah, probably not. Maybe. Yeah, no, I think that the door may be open for once you get to the place, you just don't have enough time to let it breathe. Right. But it's also, you know, there's something to the moxie and the confidence you're sending your team if you panic after one game.

True. Like if after one game, like it's one thing if you take Jarn Croak out and put in someone else on the fourth line, changing your goalie after one game, how do you go back to that guy? But you think back to last year Hayes. And you panic to that extent. You could argue they waited too long. they did yeah you can paint so many different scenarios because if you go down that path you say you start a guy

game one he doesn't play well now you got a decision to make you keep him in what if you lose game two but he plays just above average like did he do enough to keep keep keep himself in the net for game three? Like you probably should make the decision for game two to go to the other guy. I don't know. I just, with, with these two guys, they're just, they're both good. They both had really nice stretches of the season. It's not like there's a name brand there that it's like, you gotta keep him in no matter what. Like it's, it's anyone's net and the remaining games are games are going to be the tell

of who's going to solidify that to at least get the first one. With Frankie Corrado in studio again, we've got a lot of Canadian content tonight where Ottawa is playing, Montreal is playing, Vancouver is playing. Of those three teams, of those three fan bases, how would you rank it in terms of heartbreak if they missed? You've got Vancouver, Montreal and Ottawa. You can throw Calgary in there, I just feel like Calgary would be fourth. I feel like they were embracing the idea of it being a rebuilding year and a tough year. Ottawa would be busted right now if they didn't get in.

Ottawa is at number one definitively? Yeah, definitively. Just because they've been in a playoff spot for longer. There's, you know, like they've kind of, it feels like Ottawa's rounded the corner. For them to blow it at this point, like that would be as heartbreaking. And they've had the longest drought between them and the Habs in Vancouver. I think there's- If I go Ottawa one, I'll grant you that. Okay, Vancouver or Montreal, which fan base?

I think Montreal would be more heartbroken just because of the optimism that's building right now. I think if you ask Vancouver fans, like, hey, what would you think if you missed? They would say, yeah, I could see that coming, just based on the way the season's gone. Right. They've been self-loathing all year. They've just kind of come around to the fact that there's a possibility there. If you ask them in November, I think it would be a different story, but given the way the

season's gone, they're probably like, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. At the start of the year, Vancouver would have been number one on that list, after the season they had last year, and no one predicted this with Miller and Pedersen and Demko's injury and all that kind of stuff. Vancouver was probably looking for another crack at Edmonton saying, we're gonna get you this year. Absolutely. Why do you think they signed all those big trees on the back end no like i almost think if you go back to the offseason they're like we're just going to go bigger and heavier because we want to slow down edmonton and finish the job this time that would

be actually that's a pretty good bit man we should do a time machine bit like if you you we all fly back to like august 1st 2024 or sept September 1st how would you rank it in terms of heartbreak and missing because then you would include Toronto like Toronto would be high on that list Edmonton would be one I think because they you just lost game seven the cup final the idea of not making the playoffs next year is just it would be an impossibility to even I'm more than happy to jump in the hot tub time machine tomorrow. Okay, let's do it tomorrow. I think we timed... I think we... there's a lot of potential, like, looking... going into the past type content here. Oh, yeah.

We'll dig something up. Is that back to the future? Aaron Rodgers, Leafs, Canucks... Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Definitely. Tiger. Tiger's won.

Tiger. Which Toronto athlete would you prefer to go back in time and sign? Ah! Vladie Marner-Bichetta. Dude, crank the hot tub time machine up to get the bubbles going. Get it at 104 and we are wearing our bathing suits tomorrow and we're hopping in. I love it. All right, we just created something on the fly.

Get the Speedos out. I'm Jack for the hot tub time machine tomorrow. We're going back in time. We need some kind of like funky music when you hit like you pushed a lever down the hot tub time machine. Totally. We need Chevy Chase involved. Remember he was in that movie as like a bit player as the guy that was trying to fix the

time machine. Doogie's already working on a Photoshop, everyone in a Speedo. Make it work, work man, make it work Doogie. Okay, there we go. I love it. That's all I needed today. That's perfect. End the show. Yeah, I wish we could leave right now. I wish we could go in a time machine right now. Well you guys, you guys gotta do this five days a week, eh? Yeah, you just grind away man, you just keep grinding away. just keep grinding away. Actually, you know what we should do? We should ask Frankie the heart versus the cup question. Oh yeah, okay. Because we had one earlier. I was listening to this. Okay, well how would you answer that? Would you... what would have to be... I guess the question is how many hearts are worth one cup? Right. So is it two? I think is what we

landed at. Like would McDavid give up his three hearts for a Stanley Cup? Yes. Three hearts for a... Yeah. That's a lot of hearts. That's all his heart. You got more than Sid. You got like, you're in an area that...

Listen, man, you don't get a parade for a heart. You don't get like... You get a lot of money for a heart. I know, but you don't do the whole day with the cup, with the heart. It's an amazing accomplishment. But there's, I don't't know there's something about the cup being like etched into that legacy Answer maybe you go in the hot tub time machine and ask him when he gets drafted. What would you rather have? Yeah, that's a good pre drafter draft interview. He gets drafted I would go in the hot tub time machine you turn it the 104 and you say you want five heart trophies or a

Stanley Cup if a scout asked you that at the combine that is the most no-brainer All time you say I want a Stanley Cup. Yeah a hundred percent I think you do but I don't even think that's the right answer Man, that's not the right answer because if you're a scout you're like I'm gonna draft the guy who's gonna win five hearts What a pick like what a draft pick dude You know how like that's a great that's a win Oh, you you want the hearts over a Stanley Cup you get crossed off list I think about how stupid that mentality is like the best player in the league how dumb that is

You know what I mean? Like it's what do you mean? You're you're hungry to win Yep, five hearts means you pulled your weight personally. Like that means that the draft pick, the scouts can't go back and say, man, we picked the wrong guy. You picked the greatest player in franchise history. Dude, those guys... That's outside, unless you get drafted in Edmonton or like Pittsburgh or something. Yeah. Can you please chime in here? Those guys sitting around the boardroom in their khaki pants...

I know what they want to hear. ...are going to hear salivating I know I don't want five hearts, and I want a Stanley Cup I I know what they want That's why it's such a stupid question because you know the answer is gonna be Stanley Cup and then it gets even more What would you you know would you give up your would you never see your parents again or win a cup? I want a cup. Oh, I love this guy. You know it's so there's so many dumb ones but I I remember this one they'll ask you straight up a guy that you're like comparable with are you a better player than so-and-so and then

you just got to have to say obviously say yeah you've got to say the best part is like they'll ask you like a guy let's say you're like a mid-round pick they'll ask you like a guy that's gonna go top ten you a better player than that guy like obviously you're not right but we've got to ask this what are you going to do if bob probert chops you across the arm and drops his clothes and wants to go here i'm like

i'm not really into fighting bob probert but i guess i have to play with the issues i just want to look at the guy and say you're so sts yeah i think it's not that's the least of the questions that please like and the other one was what are you gonna do if there's a minute left and you have to go to the point are you gonna try to poke the park for a breakaway an empty night goal

or you can a block the shot i'm like this guy gets paid money to ask. I'm not going to say the guy's name again because it was so embarrassing. I know. Like who comes up with those? Just talk. Have a normal conversation. Phil Esposito was a great conversation. Although he was flat out, he goes, I don't think we're going to be able to draft you, so let's just kind of shoot the breeze. And I'm like, that's what an interview is supposed to be like.

Just get a feel for the guy. that's it this other Ottawa interview was so stupid what are you gonna do if Bobby Probert drops the mitts yeah I love I think he'd probably take a beating and you know like hope I don't get roughed up too bad yeah and then you start overthinking it because you're again you're thinking what do they want me to they don't want your honesty They want you to say what they want to hear You know and that's why again I'm saying man five hearts. Give me five hearts five hearts five hearts over a cup That means I pulled my way the best player that never won the Stanley Cup fine

But I got five hours and you will always be best player to never win a Stanley Cup Yeah, Undine got to be up there. Yeah, I mean, Sundin, you can probably go back in time and find players. Go in the hot tub time machine. Yeah, well, you know what? David just tweeted in, he said, better name for tomorrow's segment, hot take time machine. Oh!

The hot take time machine. Hashtag you're welcome. We are welcome. Thank you, David, you're a genius. We're going back in time in the hot take time machine. Hashtag you're welcome. We are welcome. Thank you David, you're a genius. We're going back in time in the hot take time machine. Dude, if you don't, we're wearing swimsuits tomorrow. We are. I am.

If you wanna go with a long sleeve shirt up top, you're allowed. But it's bathing suits tomorrow. Okay, I'll wear mine. I've got a couple dialed in man i got our mind yet joe thorton's role mcginna uh... the good ones yeah there's probably more from the seventies and eighties that did someone

send it more cells there on the end of my cell the on there is darryl sitler i don't believe everyone right uh... like set their never won a cop and brian haze and brian hazees Brian Hayes the best five hearts five hearts No cup five hearts. No cup. Call me five heart Come on the hot take time machine tomorrow I guess I don't know if you're walking your everyone's it's a party at the hot hot take time machine We'll be in touch tomorrow. Yeah on a partake you can go on back in time, man

You guys have your people? I love that we're going back in time for takes. This will be outstanding. Yeah. The date is June 13th 1987. Hot takes. All right we've created something. Doogie we're on it. Hot take time machine tomorrow. Catch you on the panel tonight. Yeah. We'll be on the deuce, TSN2. Yeah. Big game, Habs Islanders tonight. Pierre Engvall. Pierre Engvall.

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