OverDrive - DeLaet on Fox's playoff win at the Canadian Open, Oakmont's challenge course and Scheffler's dominance at the U.S. Open
Episode Date: June 9, 2025TSN Golf Analyst Graham DeLaet joined OverDrive to discuss Ryan Fox against Sam Burns playoff win at the RBC Canadian Open, Rory McIlroy's uncharacteristic performance at TPC Toronto, the U.S. Open st...orylines, Oakmont's difficult course track, Scottie Scheffler's dominance in the field and more.
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Here's our TSN Golf Analyst, Graham Dillett.
What's happening GD? How are you guys? How about flushed? That's a good nice positive. Yes you're
right. You're right compressed or flushed that's that's very good. Nutted? There
are positive ones. Wow they all sound negative to me though it's like I didn't
you know. Nutted's a good one. Well nutted that I mean let's let's be honest here
let's you know it's never heading down a pathway there that yes be careful
everyone keep it on the rails exactly
um... what did you think of uh... the way the course held up the canadian open
you know the
ryan fox wins it on the fourth playoff hole how do you think will look back on
the
twenty twenty five rbc canadian open
uh... i thought it was great honestly.
I mean I think the course held up really well.
I mean considering that they had ball in hand on Thursday and like literally perfect conditions
like playing in a dome that Thursday afternoon.
I mean you give the best players in the world those type of conditions with perfect lives
every single time and I mean they're going to shoo nothing.
So there's two 61s on Thursday and it looked like it was kind of gonna be one of those sort of runaways and we had good
weather all week but the course held up and I mean there was only two guys that turned
into the weekend in double digits under par so considering that two guys shot nine under
the first day I think that's pretty good and then I mean to be 18 under on a PGA Tour event
I would say that that's pretty solid.
I mean, and if they wanted to, there's nothing you can do in mother nature.
I mean, if it didn't rain overnight, Wednesday into Thursday morning, the course would have
been much more firm come Sunday afternoon.
And that winning score would have probably been like 14 or 15, you know what I mean?
So I think it was good.
And I think that it, it showed well on TV.
And I think that in general
like the players were kind of pleasantly surprised I didn't really know what they
were gonna guess here and you know a lot of the TPCs are kind of just these
modern-day huge ballparks and there's a little bit more character out there than
I think a lot of guys anticipated. JD to go back to earlier in the week Rory
McIlroy missed the cut. He was awful on Friday
All you think I mean, I don't know what he was up to on Thursday night
But it was he was probably hanging out with you and your buddies. I don't know what he was doing
But do you think I was in Orangeville buddy? He was downtown
Do you think that this guy can get on a bird
Go to Florida and then go to this golf course
and get it together and make the cut?
I mean, I can't even believe that we're saying, we should be saying about Rory, is he going
to win this?
But can he get it together after that performance and be dialed in for Oakmont?
Well, I mean, you could tell that he just wasn't there mentally at all.
I mean, like, you can talk about how poorly he played, but I mean, like I've never seen him just like,
so like half ass swing everything. It was almost like he didn't care.
But I mean, the main thing for him, if he does want to compete,
if he's got to figure out his driver, I mean, that thing is an absolute weapon.
He's the best driver of the golf ball in the entire world. And I mean,
it was ugly last week and I, he had,
he'd switched to this new driver that had, there was like a little bit shorter and I think it was ugly last week and I he had he'd switched to
this new driver that had that was like a little bit shorter and I think he was
trying to go for like something that he could control maybe a little bit more
which I don't know why he needed to change anything because he controls the
big one pretty good but I think he's trying to prepare more for this week
coming up here at the US Open and I I mean, I hope that that is over.
And he goes back to kind of like,
you know, what he has normally been doing.
But yeah, that was, I've never seen anything like it
from one of the best players in the world.
It was awful, man.
I was like, he's had a charity event, you know,
that he agreed to six months ago and he forgot.
He's like, fine, I'll come, but I got better things to do. You're right, yeah, and he forgot is a final com but i got a better thing to do
here and you know if on nine holes in the practice rounds to come in the
preparation just wasn't there
not the least uh... yet you know you look at uh... the way the canadian showed
up in a lot of canadians would be down there don't want
you know there was a time when when you're at the top of the list
gd and you know you were there mike we're was kind of crossing over but there was two or three canadians at most you'd hope you'd make the top of that list GD and you know you were there and Mike Weir was kind of crossing over but
there was two or three Canadians at most you'd hope you'd make the cut and maybe be in contention and
Here's another Canadian open like the last few where you got five six seven
Canadians who are going into the weekend top 25 top 30, you know. It's pretty incredible. It really is.
When I was playing,
Weirdzy was kind of on his way out.
It was me and Hearn, and then
Nick Taylor and Adam Adler were just
coming onto the scene.
Legitimately,
not only
just in the Canadian Open, just any regular event,
if we had two Canadians playing on the weekend,
that was pretty good back then. We've come a long way. And all the Canadian Open, just any regular event. If we had two Canadians playing on the week and that was pretty good back then. So we've come a long way and all the big dogs, like I mean,
do you think of Nick Taylor and Corey, Adam Hadwin and who am I missing? Matthew?
McHancy and Caleb Penderuth.
Those five guys who you kind of expect, you know, they're kind of the top five guys,
Canadians, and they all played well. I mean, like, you know, top thirties or whatever, but
you got to play solid on the PGA Tour to order to finish top thirty you know you're a
hot potter week away from the top thirty been a top five or like maybe one
silly mistake or whatever so
uh... but
i think that there are there all the games are pretty good shape here and
out training night
with graham delet uh... so we had all of my u.s open
if i gave you scotty schaeffler or the field who would you take
bomb at the end of the shepard on jupiter can't seem to pay but
who's gonna beat this guy
i think the way that you play right now it's an absolute joke
and and and the thing is to the heart of golf courses
the more top players separate themselves from the rest of the field and i mean
that's like it's not gonna get up any harder than this. I haven't been out there yet. I'm here in Pittsburgh right now
I'll go out there tomorrow morning and check it out
But I mean you guys have seen all the social media posts
I'm I would assume at this rough and I they might be the hardest conditions that I've ever seen
I think when I get out on the golf course there on Tuesday
Graham explain to the viewers and us I'm curious to get this answer
I watched you play on the PGA Tour and you were a fantastic
Ball striker and you could move the rock and you did things really well
so you at the top of your game and
If you were in the final group with Scotty like what does he do that just separates him from you?
Is it like consistency like is it longer is it Is it better approach shots? Like you were a
tour player who was known as an unbelievable ball striker so what does
this cat do that's just so much better than everyone else? Well the biggest
thing is he doesn't make mistakes. I mean I don't know if you guys watch
him near field but I mean that golf course was playing super tough there a
couple weeks ago and he went around just like bogey free just kind of ho hum and he plays a lot. He plays a lot like Tiger like I mean
we always remember all these like fantastic crazy shot that Tiger Woods hit throughout his career, but
If you like sit back and look he played kind of the most boring golf
he hit to the middle of so many greens just made life easy on himself and he was a great
putter. And Scotty is maybe isn't a great putter, but he's got really good hands around the greens
and that kind of makes up for it. So when he does miss a green, I mean, he's got three, four feet,
kind of little tap ins. And I mean, if you can make those, he doesn't need to, he hardly even make any
putts because he just doesn't get himself out of position and make bogeys. And then, you know,
you look at the complete opposite a guy like jordan
spieth or whatever it's like he's making by six seventy thirty three to make a
four five bogey than it's like he shoots three under but it looks insane and then
scotty shepler you he lulled you to sleep a shoot sixty four and that's
really the difference he just doesn't make mistakes it's incredible to watch matter it really is in uh... you know you look at
at the playoff yesterday
where we were discussing it earlier graham that that was not
quality golf either guy was playing man like paper but it is very makeable parts
they you know burns chunked a wedge at one point
uh... what did you make of the decision though to move the cup for the fourth
playoff hole, something I've never seen before? I saw you on SportsCenter afterwards, you said
you've never seen it before.
I think it's kind of... I've never heard of it. I didn't even know it was possible on the fly, but I
thought it was a pretty cool idea
once they actually went ahead with it. Yeah, you know, I was kind of sitting there
on the back of the 18th green and, you
know, I was sitting there with Duffy and Weeks and I was like, man, what they
should do is move these T's up and give these guys a chance to go at it and two.
I mean, it was basically, they might as well just drop two balls at a hundred
yards and had a wedge contest for the first three times going through there.
So it was nice when that wind kind of died down in that last playoff hole and
they were both able to go for it.
And yeah, there wasn't a lot of great great shots but that second shot that Ryan Fox hit in
there I don't even know what it was eight feet or whatever for Eagle was
absolutely incredible and that's what earned him the win and I mean you can
talk about Sam's three putt but he knew that he had to try to make it because
you got to expect a guy from eight feet to make it so I mean he gave that Eagle
putt a run and I mean I wish I'm sure that he wishes he only had a three or four feet pass but you got a you got to give it a run
at that at that point in time and you know Ryan put the pressure on and he won
the golf tournament. GD heading into next week all the goofy tweets are always
starting where a guy comes out and says if you give me this score I would take
it into the clubhouse right now and I'd be happy with it and Ben
Griffin said it would be plus four.
I think that's not.
What's that?
Daily or total?
Total he said the total he was sitting in the clubhouse.
You think four over could win this thing?
Really?
Wow.
From what I'm hearing from other people yeah like, like I said, I haven't been out there yet, but I don't think there's any question that over par is definitely in the mix.
And I heard someone was telling me that Keegan Bradley said that he thinks that it could
be double digits over par.
So who knows?
You know, it's always harder to when you play practice rounds because you're always at the
back of every single tee box. The rough hasn't been trampled down yet.
Like it always plays harder on a Monday and longer and the rough's nastier on a
Monday and a practice round than it is by Thursday, Friday.
Everything kind of starts to get trampling down,
but the USDA is also known to kind of rake up the grass back towards the tee
sometimes to, you know, bring that difficulty back. So we'll see what happens.
Have you, I'm sure you've played Oakmont, the stories about it, everyone's like toughest golf course you could ever play considering the rough, considering the
greens, how tight the fairways are, how small the greens are, is it the
toughest course you've ever played? I actually never did play that
open in 17. I was hurt that year, but I mean I hear from everyone
It's you know in normal members conditions. It's one of the hardest courses in the world
So when the USGA gets their hands on it, it's obviously pretty crazy. Yeah, I wonder if this is gonna be like a
Tiger 2000 at Pebble moment for Scheffler where everyone else is plus three plus four plus five and he's seven or eight under you know
Like that's not is a that's a possibility
Yeah, and that would and that honestly and like you wouldn't be surprised to see it
Like I said the better you are and like and mentally he's so good to be so patient
He doesn't get rattled and that's a big thing obviously at the US Open and he can just kind of
You know just kind of plot his way around this golf course and shoot
maybe two under for 72 holes and you never know, win by 10.
It's a definite possibility.
All right, GD, great catching up with you.
I got to tell you one quick story though, Hazy, right before we go.
We're on the Golf Channel coverage and I can't remember, Steve Lowry hits this shot.
I'm like, oh, that's the kind of shot that 15 Handicapper dreams that he could hit.
O-Dog text me and Steve Sands in the booth and he's like, dude, I can hit that shot. and
then the
that
that private tax you don't share that stuff on TV man. I love it.
I love it.
Alright GD, enjoy yourself down there.
Thanks.
There's Graham Bellette.
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