OverDrive - Dempster on the Blue Jays' World Series outlook, Scherzer on the mound and the perspective of the games
Episode Date: October 27, 2025MLB Network Analyst and Intentional Talk Host Ryan Dempster joined OverDrive to discuss the Blue Jays and Dodgers' matchup, the Blue Jays' journey leading to their first win, Max Scherzer on the mound... and the projection for the game, Bo Bichette's role on the field, the team carrying the momentum and more.
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Right, good Canadian boys down there for the MLB network and host of intentional talk.
Joining us on the Maple Toyota Hotline, live from Dodgers Stadium.
Here's Ryan Dempster.
How are you doing, Ryan?
I'm doing great, guys.
I got down here on a nice smooth transition from Toronto last night.
It spent a little time at the beach yesterday and now I got out here really to Dodger Stadium
to super pumped for game three.
Ryan, what's the vibe in the States with the Js in the World Series every year, obviously, for 32 or
33, we've been up here saying it's the Braves, the Dodgers, whatever.
What's the vibe down there with the Jays being in the fall classic?
Yeah, I think there's this, you know, this superpower in the MLB with the Dodgers, right?
And everybody down here respects it, but also, like, you tend to root for the underdog.
And I think a lot of people down here are rooting for Toronto.
People in L.A. all think the series is going to be over in, you know, in three more games.
But I think we're going back up to Toronto for sure.
and I'm going to be playing some more games up there.
This is just two good baseball teams.
I think there's a lot of respect to the Blue Jays.
Talk to these players, talk to the guys on the other side of the field.
They have a lot of respect for this team, rightfully so.
They deserve every bit to be playing in this World Series.
If you were an American baseball fan
and you hadn't watched the Jays all season long,
what's the biggest thing you've learned about them so far?
Complete team.
It does everything.
I think the biggest thing is you learn the true impact of not striken out.
You know, when you can hit good pitching,
And listen, they had a daunting pass in game two.
As we saw the series before, Milwaukee, same thing.
Struggle to hit Yamamoto.
You're running into arguably the best pitcher in baseball right now.
But, you know, this is a team that will grind you in at bats.
They'll find a way to put the ball on play.
And I think that's just, you know, they got good starting pitching, good bullpen, you know, play good defense.
All those things.
It's just such a well-rounded, well-balanced team, completely confident and looking forward to this challenge.
ahead of them. So you got Max Scherzer on him out tonight for the Jays and he's made one
playoff start and it was one that we'll never forget, large part because of his interactions
with John Snyder on a mound and then Pete Walker in the dugout. As a pitcher yourself and a guy
that I'm sure you know Max very well, what did you make of the Scherzer interactions in game
four of the previous series? I loved it. I thought it said an amazing tone for exactly what
you need you know sometimes we get so jaded and not trying to show emotions unless it's a home run
right like it's okay if a guy throws the baths up in the air and we chest pump and we do all the
home run stuff but it feels like sometimes the other way around maybe a guy on the mound or if we're
out in the field it's like hey you do not too much of that you know you don't want to get too high
too low but for max to a challenge like that at the right time in front of his whole team his manager
was waiting for it all year and then to go out and get the strike out and then get two more out
in the next inning. I just think it's sent a message to his team of, A, the passion he has.
This guy's been to four World Series now with four different teams. He's about to start his
fifth World Series game. Like, that's a resume very few can match. And I think when you see
a guy like that wearing his emotions honestly, then backing it up, it boosts you. It gives you
a jolt. As a teammate, as a friend, you know, as a guy in that locker room, you've got to be
fired up about that. And it just kind of motivates everybody to be the best they can. Hey, man,
This is when you've got to play your tightest games of the year
because the margins of error are really small.
And for Max to go do that,
now he's well-rested and hoping to do that again.
And I think early-inning success is the key for him today,
but I just love the passion he's always shown.
I love that emotion.
And, you know, it's the first ballot Hall of Famer,
you know, doing his thing during the playoffs.
What do you think is the best-case scenario for Scher tonight?
Like, if you're being reasonable, what you can expect out of him tonight,
what John Schneider would pencil in for him this evening?
that best case scenario you're pitching into the sixth inning
you know a really good scenario is if he's if he's four or five for you
you know i think you know just if he's good and he's clean you're going to let him go right
so but if he can battle through or navigate any kind of traffic on the base pass if that happens
and i and i think you know a lot of that's going to be his stuff i think the days off help i think
the rest before his previous start and then he's got a huge long rest since his last start i think
because we get older, fathered time.
It gets us, so the more rest we get, the better we are.
And I expect them to have good stuff tonight.
If he can command it, I wouldn't be shocked to see him go into the sixth inning.
On that note, what's a reasonable expectation for Boba Chet, now that he's playing?
We obviously know he's not 100%.
He's playing second base.
You know, what can you expect out of Boba Chet if everything goes well?
Yeah, I think just a little, even, you know, he had quality at bats as far as, you know,
getting the base hit, drawing the walk,
in game one, you know, tough draw to go pinch it in the second game to do that.
But I think, you know, timing-wise, maybe a little bit crisper.
Like he took a 3-0 hack, but he's a little late on it.
It's hard to just jump back into it when you're facing this pitching staff, right?
You're facing guys with number one type stuff and Snell and Yamamoto and now Glass Nal and then Otani.
So I think just having that opportunity to get some really electric live stuff, get a little bit of a breather.
I imagine he
I wouldn't be surprised
if you just see him play
every game the rest of the series
If he's on your roster
He's Boba Shetty
Let the American League
And hits
Let him play
He's a glue guy in that clubhouse
Let it just eat
And for Bo
You know you got
Possibly five games left
Everything we got
And you know
Hopefully your need does well
And you get the rest
And recovery you need to do
To go out there
And try and come up
With that big big head
Have that big moment
Ryan
We were talking about that Yamamoto
That guy is just a machine
Like he's just so focused
He doesn't get up or down.
He just can't wait to get back out there.
He's a scary human being on the mound, isn't it?
Yeah, that's why I think you got to, you know, tonight's such a big win because, you know, if you go back to Toronto, he's throwing game six, you know.
And so, yeah, game six.
So it's like you don't want to get into that situation where you're not chasing that down 3-2.
You'd like to be up 3-2 going back home.
But it's really, there's a reason, right?
a lot of people go, man, this guy got $350 million.
How? And then you see
his stuff, and you're like, okay, and then you see the command
and the precision at which he operates.
It's meticulous work
from preparation before games.
He's working between innings, his journal.
He logs. He's a student of the
sport. He just studies
pitching so much, and then he's got such
command of his body and his mechanics.
And at the end of the day, guys,
we all talk about stuff. There's lots of guys who throw
hard or they got good spin.
People go back and watch that, or even you don't have to watch
just go and look at his pitch locations on a heat map.
The amount of pitches that he throws to unhittable spots to hitters,
like, Mark, you know, I was sitting there saying, like,
those pitches, like the one he struck Lucas out on,
and the one, you know, down in the way to Varsha.
Like, 97 darted in the bottom right-hand corner of that strikeout
with a four-seem fastball with Perry.
The only thing you can do with that as a left-hand hitter, I believe,
even the greatest is the base hit to the left field at best.
And he just command the strike zone so well,
top and bottom of it,
That's what happens, right?
Legendary performances in the postseason.
Sometimes they come on the winning end,
and we don't really ever hear about them,
and sometimes you win the World Series,
and that's all the people talk about.
He was filthy.
They got to look at him,
but right now their focus is just on the guy today,
and that's last now.
Picking backing on that impressive performance from Yamamoto,
how significant is it that the Jay's didn't get a look at any of the relievers?
Like, he goes nine innings,
and now you're not gassing your bullpen,
Jays aren't getting looks at guys.
How significant is that?
it's a little bit
yeah I get that and especially because
the game one you won it handling so you didn't see the high leverage guys in that
situation so you know these are going to be first looks you get on guys
that come in that you haven't maybe necessarily seen this year
or seen in a while or maybe you didn't see it all during the season so
yeah it's it can have an effect you know but also you got
remember those relievers aren't pitching you know they haven't pitched much
in the past 10 days so are they a little rusty is there's command issues
does the ball leak over the middle of the plate because you're throwing through a sinker.
So there's a lot of questions there too.
But, yeah, definitely can have a little bit of an advantage to the pitcher when you haven't seen them.
But that can change really quickly with, you know, lack of location, un-executed pitch
with against a really good lineup, let's chase.
With Ryan Dempster, who do you think will have a bigger impact on the rest of the series?
Shohei Otani or Vladie Guerrero Jr.?
Oh, that's a good call.
I'm going to say Vladdy Jr.
I think Gladdy has a big moment tonight
I think that this guy has just been so locked in
I mean you see his outs they're rockets dude
game one you know he lines out to left field
on a pitch of the shortstop almost jump for
the ball's flying like that then
then he hits a rocket on the ground you know
yesterday like his outs are hard
he's dialed in on everything you know
yeah sure did he strike against Yamamoto
cool not the only guy on the team lots of guys
hits but like
this guy is I think more
important to the blue
Jay's offense, then Otani is to the Dodgers offense, even though you're talking about
Otani, I think it's vital for the Blue Jays to win that Blatt continues to swing the bat the way he
has.
Well, we're looking forward to seeing that play out tonight.
I can tell you that up here in Toronto, and I expect the same thing in the way Vladie's
been so dialed in the whole month.
It's going to be a great game three tonight.
You'll be all over it.
Enjoy Dodgers Stadium.
We always appreciate you finding time for us.
Thank you, Ryan.
Absolutely, guys.
Hopefully we see you back in Toronto in a few days.
You got it. There's Ryan Dempster joining us here on the Maple Toyota hotline.
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