OverDrive - Duthie on the Maple Leafs' clash against the Panthers, Toronto's keys to success and the Stars and Jets' large wins

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

TSN Host James Duthie joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Maple Leafs' matchup against the Panthers and how Toronto stacks up in the series, the biggest factors for the teams, Sidney Crosby, Nathan MacKinnon and Marc-Andre Fleury playing at the men's world hockey championship and more.

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here to help you every step of the way. If you're a proud pet owner, shop at Global Pet Foods. Support local, shop Canadian. Global Pet Foods, helping pets thrive since 1976. Here's James Doughty. JD? I would've worn a jacket for you, but I locked myself out of my dressing room halfway

through dressing. Uh oh. That happened. How do you get back in there? I had to go to security just before I ran into your studio and said, can you let me back into my dressing room? Okay. Did they look at you like, really?

Yeah. Kind of. They look at you like, you have a dressing room? It's not really a dressing room. It's like a closet with my clothes. Well, I guarantee you your dressing room is probably in better shape than somebody else's on this. No, no, no, no.

I told you guys, when I was a moose, the car was a mess, everything was a mess. Dressing room a mess, now everything's immaculate. Really? Oh yeah. What's the correlation between not being a moose and being organized? Because when you're a fat slob, you just, like I just didn't care about it Oh yeah. What's the correlation between not being a moose and being organized?

Because when you're a fat slob you just like I just didn't care about it Yeah, if my truck was a mess it took me a month to clean it You guys saw the back of my truck. It was disgusting. It's an apartment I'm not sure I'm buying the storage bin. The locker room thing dude. I'm not buying it either I don't think so. I can walk by and do a drive do a job an hour to get down to the Scotiabank arena Why don't you make a pit stop and have a look I will I'll pop in there do it you use the term Immaculate yeah that might be

Walk by there it would just be a pile of shirts and ties and suits just in a pile It was like a giant it looked like a laundry pile Because I would go in I would ask you but like I gotta get changed can I do you mind if I pop in there Yeah, go on in there. I'd walk in there and I was yeah flabbergasted There were golf balls You had like Pro V's and TPX's and golf keys. You would think a normal person would say, actually you're not going in there, don't

you dare lay eyes on that. No, it's under renovation. There's an iron that hasn't been used. Like it's honestly a wild scene you have going on. I totally invite you for just a little handshake, hello and have a peek. And maybe a posting of the shot. I think that, I'll ask you if that's okay to be posted. Totally okay. And maybe a posting of the shot. I think that I'll ask you if that's okay to be posted. Totally okay. Posted on socials okay on my social media accounts Instagram Twitter everything will be posted later. Jimmy you got to answer this we started out the show which game on the weekend kind

of captivated you more was it the Dallas game or was it the Jets game last night? If you the entirety of it was the Dallas game just because the hockey in that entire series I thought was spectacular but if you were to ask me which I'll remember more it's the Jets game because I that one was over to me I never thought the Dallas Colorado was over and the. I never thought the Dallas Colorado was over and The Jets thing I have a couple of Jets fans friends who I reverse jinxed Because that three minutes left when they had nothing going like they had nothing going at all

And I was like man. This is a tough one. Sorry guys, you know, man I can't imagine being Hellebock you're gonna win the Vesna This is a tough one. Sorry guys, you know, man, I can't imagine being Hellebuck You're gonna win the Vesna maybe win the heart and still have the most miserable summer of your life Imagine what that's like and they were come back. Yeah, it's tough one and then boom Just it was crazy. Like one of the craziest things I've seen in hockey. I think yeah Like a two seconds left and I don't lose an argument. I don't if you guys talked and I don't know if there was an argument, I don't know if you guys talked about it, I don't think he meant to pass it, I think he kind of fanned on it halfway. You're talking Kyle Connor on the time goal. Yeah, the shot that ended up getting to Perfetti. I think it was just like, I gotta get this somewhere.

Just whack the thing as hard as you can. I think he took a one-timer as hard as he could towards the net and it went right in that area. That's what I thought. That's what I thought as well. But you know, the beauty of it though, Ehlersler's you know he fans on it and then he goes I got to zip this across and Connor is on his back foot and he turns and fires this and you know what's crazy the goal light goes off because it's one point you can't hit the button quick enough to stop the clock right right so like if you watch it from the other

view the the goal light is going but I think it's like the end of the period like it's not the goal light. The light that says game over. Yes, like it's like yes it's like this game is over now and and anyway it was just an incredible scene last night. The video as much as the the video watching the Jets fans is unbelievable. I went down a rabbit hole of about fifteen minutes of watching blues fans react and it was almost more fascinating and tortuous can you imagine a choke in european uh... by the blues yet but i'm really come on and you gotta close that out

and the senate eight c down to nothing in there i don't care i don't care you're up three one with two fifty five left of whatever the hell the clock was you got to find a way. I don't think so I think it's just hockey like weird stuff happens in hockey. Well you just give a built-in excuse to every team that chokes a lead up here. We probably would call it a choke if it was a Canadian team. Exactly if that was the least that caught that one up and you went to me what happened I'm just gonna say Up three one you imagine if the Leafs were the blues. Oh, don't even you looked at me and said oh dog What happened when I went that's hockey. I yeah, you're right I think there were mistakes made on that empty net because st. Louis had opportunities to chew that clock down and they did

Yeah, didn't they fire one right over it did which Navish fired the length of the ice over the net. He could have cross cornered it into the neutral zone for a foot race because I do believe Thomas was speeding in that direction. If he chips it into the neutral zone for a foot race, that puck doesn't come back in the neutral zone. It's probably one of those things where there's four or five or six different moments there where one little thing has to happen and it's over. In the end this is where I would agree with you it's just hockey because it's

like we can all go back and dissect it and go you could have done this should have done this could have got to save you know Falk misses that one timer by two inches as far as with his stick in the lane. You know, there's things that were missed assignments, really, because a lot of times on plays like this, you collapse to the middle. We see teams that don't let that puck come back through, or guys are in the lane blocking it. Like it just, it seemed like maybe,

and I know it's lazy to say, but like the hockey gods lined up, and it was like they just happened to get, it happened to work out perfectly, but there are things we talked about it before the show Quentin Byfield he gets that puck out Against the Edmonton Oilers that they go down 3-1, right? Well, Rob Blake is possibly still running the show in LA like literally Rob Blake is no longer running the show in LA You don't want it. It's not just eat such a split by field all it's a challenge is that but there are not on quentin by field that i was also a moment but it's one play

that you're right they when they probably win that series is different right because now you're down three one now you're to really chase in it like in the end you know there are there are things like evan bush are bats the park out of the air like he's you know cheney and scores the best scores like if if if he misses the net on that one timer a 95 mile an hour Flapshot they lose like it just it happens And but last night like that profetti like that that redirect if that if Bennington had any luck that hits a crossbar

It could have hit the crossbar. Absolutely. I'm trying to think of a Weekend that was a better commercial for hockey in the last whatever like 10 years. Four Nations Face Off. Okay, you're right. That's how quickly you recall it. He was going by 10 years. Yeah.

Okay, let's say NHL. Yes. A better advertisement for the NHL. I guess Four Nations would be that as well. I totally agree. But you know what I'm saying. I just, just to have two games like that as the only two game sevens be that spectacular, I don't remember a scenario like that.

And I think to use the Four Nations again as a kind of barometer, you look at the NBA, remember that weekend people goofing on the NBA and the All-Star game, they had two game sevens and they were awful games. The Clippers Denver game was horrendous up that was a up against the Dallas game on Saturday and last night the Warriors were mostly in control the whole night the entire game yeah the entire game so it was like comparing and contrasting you're like look it over here this is nothing over time not even close and in the NHL it was just Bedlam and then you reset and then we got game one of the

second round already tonight the basketball fans would say that there's an inverse relationship with hockey where the NHL the first round is always the best and it wears the hockey gets worse as it goes along because the teams get worn down and the NBA the first round always sucks and usually by the finals you get the best basketball. Not always the case. Somewhat true sometimes. I think generally the NHL first round is a hundred times better almost every year than basketball's first round. Yes. We'll see what happens the rest. I mean, I think we always love

the hockey more no matter what, but there is something to be said the second and third round there sometimes is a nose, a bit of a nosed with drama we'll see you by into the the odds are what they are that the leaves are the biggest underdog in the second round of all the matchups we got four series and lease beating florida is the most far-fetched that you can think of of all the other combinations uh...

i don't think so. I'm just I mean on paper it shouldn't be because they're they won the division and Talent level there and I think they're a grittier team than they've been in the past. I I think it's kind of equal frankly like I think Carolina Washington I think that's a series Vegas Edmonton Yeah, I would have said Vegas should be favored, but the way Edmonton looked in the last couple of games Dallas Winnipeg yeah, I suppose that's I suppose you can make that argument, but I I don't think that they're I Think it's like if you were to put odds on it I put it at 60-40 Florida I don't think it's 75-25

no your percentage that you do I think it's I think the Leafs are closer than a lot of people give them give them credit for yeah but I think that it in the four o'clock hour too it's the history and what Florida like Florida's the reigning champion mm-hmm and the Leafs don't have a history in 23 years to get there where you know Vegas Edmonton you watched Edmonton and Vegas is one to come You know Winnipeg would be an interesting one, but wait they won the president's trophy Right, but they get the same history and hell about who knows what you're gonna get right so you can spin it You know in different ways even Dallas like they it was a great series

You know great series But they had to storm back like Colorado finds a way to just close that and they're out and Colorado's into the next round So everyone's kind of dealing with something with the exception of I would say the teams in the East Because Florida got through in five Carolina in five Washington in five But the fact that the Leafs have home ice and they're healthy like this is as good of an opportunity as you're gonna get Yes, it's a tough challenge. Florida is a very good team. You know what they're healthy, like this is as good of an opportunity as you're gonna get. Yes, it's a tough challenge. Florida's a very good team. You know what they're going to bring.

But if you can't get through this, considering what you have leading up to it, I mean, it's the ultimate go up, you know, put up or shut up moment for the Leafs. You just never know until you see it. I mean, two years ago, the Leafs were, I think we considered them solid favorites in that series. Over Florida, for sure.

Florida was this upstart underdog who just upset Boston and it felt like a freakish series that they upset Boston and everybody's chanting we want Florida they limped in that year in the final day of the season and and then when the series was over you were like oh this is what Florida is we never saw that so I think from the Toronto perspective you have to hope that the rest of the world sees the same way, that this series ends and Toronto wins and you go, oh these are new Leafs, I didn't see that coming. At some point, does two straight finals take a toll on Florida? I think there's an element to that. I don't know about the second round and because they

got through Tampa in five, I might feel differently if it was like a seven game brawl. Guys like Ekblad and Kachuk who really haven't played that much in the last few months. Right exactly and Eklat will be out tonight like that's another big thing he's serving the last game of that two game suspension. It does feel like tonight like for the Leafs they have of all the other seven teams in the second round they have to make a statement in my opinion game one more so than any other team. Does that mean they have to win or does that, they have to make a statement, in my opinion, game one, more so than any other team. Does that mean they have to win? Or does that mean they have to play?

I think ideally you win clearly, but you definitely have to play, I think, with the style and with the system in mind, like that you're portraying, like, okay, this is a fight. If they kill him on the four check and Florida wins four to one, then... Concerning. Very concerning. Yeah. But is it overreaction it could be because I asked leading into this win or lose tonight do you feel like there will be

an overreaction a hundred but it's just I mean I think more so for a loss than a win I don't think people are gonna freak if the Leafs win tonight that to their credit amazing I agree I don't think people are gonna be overly comfortable years that no one's gonna go Leafs in five if they win tonight. But I just think we've learned from you know the Oilers being down 2-0 and these the first two games even you got to win I say honestly it feels weird but I think a Leafs split is fine in the first two games which is not usually what you say for the home team but I think in this particular matchup if the Leafs split the first two games and look good then I think that's okay that's okay going back to Florida.

And you mentioned the reaction to Florida a couple years ago where after they got through that round you said okay this is different they actually are like a team that's capable of doing this which category is more likely to change your mind or not even change your mind but make you feel more bullish about the overall chances based on the way these categories played in this round? The core four and them showing up and elevating? It feels like a quiz. It is. The defense core, which I think they have their best six pack of defensemen in a long, long time, certainly in the Matthews era, or Stoller's?

Sorry, are you saying going into it? Yeah, I'm saying if you get through this what do you think is most likely the reason for it? You think it's because the core four elevates? Is it because Stolar stands on his head or because the defense core which has been so good continues to play really well? No I think it's the first thing because I think the second and third thing will be fine. I think that the defense. So you're confident in the goal-tending of the defense? I'm confident in the defense and I'm confident in the goal-tening. I don't think the goal-tening is going to be spectacular but I think it's going to be good enough and I think the D is what it is. So I think it still comes back to those guys no matter what Craig Borube says about it.

I still think they have to outplay the likes of Barkov, Kachuk, Reinhardt, Verhege or whatever. So I mean that's a simple way to look at it, but I just think that's still the case. And I think it'll always kind of be with this team Well, and also with every team like I was talking about this yesterday Like I don't think anyone in toronto or any leaf fan is asking more of their best players than any other fan base asks of their best players Like no one in in edmonton is like, you know, man I really I need jan mark to keep cooking here. Like, no one's saying that.

Yes, you got to play well and pull your weight, but it's McDavid and Dry Settle and Nugent Hopkins and in Vegas, it's Eichel and Stone and Petrangelo and Morrissey. Like that's what is expected. You're just expecting them to be on top of their game. Your best players have to be your best players. Yeah, that's why. And what you don't want is to say- No one's asking for anything else.

After the game, I didn't even notice that guy. Yeah. Because if you do that a bunch of times, you out right exactly Max Dome he can't pull you out from this no and they have moments yes of course he can but it's a thing if Florida gets through this it's it's it's not because you know AJ Greer or something like that's not the way it goes it'll be Barkov and Kachuk but you can have got like Cole Profetti rescued the Jets to an extent I think that was a bit of a surprise right was shy flee down so you can have got like Cole Profetti rescued the Jets to an extent I think that was a bit of a surprise right with Shifely down so you

can have surprise stops explain he's on the ice with a no I go that's not that's not a third or fourth liner but it's still a guy who hadn't really done it on a big stage stepping up with him yeah I mean those two deflects that first deflection was unbelievable ridiculous unbelievable angle and it was so perfectly placed like it was yeah I don't know, man. Like there were some amazing plays, some amazing goals, and even Hellebuck coming. Like I just was so happy for him coming back to life a little.

But like he just looked different. He looked different in overtime compared to in the first period. It just looked like mentally, I've been given this sort of second chance to salvage this whole thing and there's no way I'm going to... Well Hayes sparked him with his tweet. Yes I did. I said he owes perfection.

Did he say he read it? He said Hellebuck owes the Jets' teammates perfection in overtime. Do you think it was read to him? I hope so. Came across a ticker in the dressing room. I know Scott Arneal follows me. I know Scott Arneal's on Twitter. He's checking things out. I would like to believe that I inspired Connor Halliburke. So funny. I tweeted something out about Miko Rantinen on Saturday night too. Did you? No. Are you getting a reputation as a guy that fires? I'm a whisperer man. That's the greatest story. But feel good for ranting in I mean, I'm yeah, I guess so. Why wouldn't you? I don't know. I feel like I feel like in the back of his mind. He's like, I still want to be in Colorado Like this is great. I'm in that cool. We're in the second round Did you guys feel like maybe that was a thought after the game like why the hell did you guys trade me? Yeah, exactly

Did you see the handshake line? Yeah, well, these he was miked up. It was more just, I love you bro, I love you. But like, everyone on that Colorado team was like hugging him, like it was... Well they had, they just released a miked up version. I don't know. I haven't seen that. I guess he was miked and it was just a lot of, he hugs you Shane, I love you buddy, I'm so happy for you, let's hang out in the off season, hugs Landis Gogh, sort of same thing. So, it was a lot of love. Yeah, well as there should be I mean the guy put on and he he didn't ask to be traded they were negotiating and then Colorado flipped them I do wonder what Carolina's thinking watching that play like is Rod Brindam or sitting there saying but if

you had to use that cat in the second round here he was so bad when he was in Carolina I understand I don't even think Rod Brindam or saw anything close to it did you see your buddy peter boron like leaning back in his chair going it takes guys some time little deals when he got here he didn't you know like he had this analogy is like you know he's a great player eventually we knew it was going to come out he goes you just

sometimes you hope it comes out earlier and he goes it just took a while to settle in jim out of the right time randinanen because of the Carolina situation before this or do you think that was just Carolina's problem? I would, when in doubt I would blame Carolina. But would you put any blame on Brantanen? Oh I think he deserves, he's a professional. He's a play well. No but if you're in a position to be a UFA and you get traded unbeknownst to you like

without any knowledge well he just told him I'm not resigning no I don't but he also didn't play well I guess no he did say I'm not resigned in a little bit yeah I mean I understand what you're saying the human element has to be considered right rocked his world and he's in Carolina and he didn't clearly didn't want to be there but you're also when you lace your skates up and you go out and play you're supposed to perform and he did not for the Carolina Hurricane. I still find it bonkers that they didn't want to find that information I want I know they wanted to keep that deal on the down low but to have a guy like you

got to ask him if he's gonna do that like yeah to give up those assets and just say no he hates it here. I mean it worked out beautifully for Dallas there's no other way to put it. It just fell right in the lap and Stankhoven and Pecs or whatever going the other way, good for them. And Stankhoven is still playing and Carolina is in the second round. It's not like they folded after they made that deal, but man it worked out really well for Dallas.

Sidney Crosby, Nathan McKinnon, Marc-Andre Fleury are going to the World Championships. I bet you there's a couple guys that were asked that said no i don't know they're saying i'm coming how do you how do you say no if you're a young guy trying to make the olympic team in these guys are going yeah i mean that's what it says to me like we get the olympics now flowers not gonna be in the olympic team is retired he's done as is one last dance for him who knows of believe in play timing and going with your buddies it's three weeks. They're gonna bring their families over the first week

They're gonna drink their faces off with their buddies and they'll still like that you want to bring your family Mckinnon just went through a grind. He's like, I'm in like that's the one that's a pretty close to honor bedard And I don't know maybe he's dealing with something but I if he indeed said no that would that that's surprising to me. Yeah I don't even get to play a lot last year Nick Suzuki say that he was gonna have the trainers weigh in or something yeah I've never heard of I've never heard of a play so Nick Suzuki he's battling with something apparently and he said he wants to get verification from the that was yes he said I'm not I can't I can't confirm that I'm gonna go over it because I'm waiting on the medical staff and I guarantee you it's I'm good to go now i'll man i'd like you guys know

i think about it's three weeks it's a grind you know i'd only a great game if i just got kicked out by just got punted from the nl playoff so i'm like okay but that's fine but i think of big reason why suzuki was on the four nations was because he kept saying no and program program player often leave them off but that's that would be the arrogance of hockey canada because if you want him on the olympic team this year and because he didn't go to the tournament of losers at the end of the season he's never been a little i'd well but it doesn't matter

if he is he good enough to play in the olympic team extra do you see should be of course that's a matter of the most yes okay he's not just had his heart broken. I think he was in the long... And he talked to his buddy Sid and he goes, okay, when are you going to be back in Nova Scotia? And he goes,

I'll be back after the World Championships. Okay, I'll meet you over there. Like those are three buddies that are going. Like Sid and Murray. I understand that. But maybe you want to be buddies with the guys who kind of run the room when you go to the Olympic Games. I think guys like...

It's their goal. People don't realize how hard an NHL season is of a grind. And then you're going to go over and play three more weeks and for nothing, like, you know. But I think two things can be true at the same time. I think players have every right to do that. I think you're 100% right for whatever reason, physically they're not up to it. But I do think that if you are a fringe player and you don't go, then if that factors into you not making the team, if there's a decision to be made between you and some other

guy and the other guys always answer the call, then you have to accept the fact that that might have cost you going. Well then shame on management for Team Canada to being arrogant enough to not taking that guy when he can make your team better. If Nick Suzuki doesn't make the team because they've got to pick a... Okay, but I was just saying, if it's a decision between Nick Suzuki and some of the guy that's almost equal and he's always at... Travis Connecty. Then...

Travis Connecty goes... Suzuki's a better player. I would say Suzuki's a better player, but Connecty's there. He's over there playing. I guess my point is, is like, Doug Armstrong and those guys, they're smart enough to go with the best team not a guy who, oh he didn't, he was banged up and he needed three weeks off at the end of the season I think that should be the case I'm not convinced it always is the case Well we heard whispers that, he didn't make the

Suzuki didn't make the Four Nations because he didn't go last year It was something that was considered anyway Right And let's face it again, when they announced the team he wasn't rocking the way he was in the second half. Exactly. Right.

Like Suzuki had a great second half. But there is a difference between McDavid saying sorry, but thanks, but no thanks, and maybe the fourth line center. That's the point, I think, is if you're like, Bedard, I don't think is even in the running. I think he's had a really tough couple of years in the league and it's just like I can't speak for him He said I wouldn't be surprised. He's like I just got to get away from the sport here and he knows he's not Gonna be on the Olympic team. It's not gonna happen Suzuki based on merit the way he played the second half should absolutely be on that team, right?

Well, wait a second. What if Badaard comes out? Lights it up. I don't think I don't see him making the team personally. What if he went to the Worlds this year and got to play with one of those guys? We have the answer, he's not doing that by all accounts. I'm just saying. But if he went to the Worlds and had a great return... I think you're probably right that he's on the outside right now for the Olympic team. I think he's not at the Worlds because he went last year and he didn't hardly play and

they were like... Yeah, but you can't do... If that's the reason that's that's gonna get you in trouble if you do that That's a good point about celebrini though. He was looking 24 hours ago was the first line center and now McKinnon and sitter over there He's like great. What am I playing? He might be playing left the wing you might but if I'm him I would want that you tell me I can play a left wing With Sid for three weeks. I am pouncing at that option. You gotta have somebody on the second line. Remember they won in Riga. I only know this because I've written it in the new book. And that was that year was in the middle of COVID. So imagine these guys that was after the Canadian

division thing. They asked these guys to go. Here's the deal guys. You're going to Riga, Latvia for the world. So you're gonna be there for three weeks. When you arrive, you have to spend four days in your hotel room. And we're not leaving the hotel. We have a room in the basement with pinball machines and stuff. That's it. Who's going to... That team, if you look at that roster, there was Connor Brown and Manjapani ended up being a hero. He came over late. Nick Paul. They were the heroes, right? And they lost the first three games. And these guys were so miserable.

They're all sitting there going, what the heck have we done here? And they come back and win gold and have a memory of a lifetime, right? But that was one where nobody said yes basically because it looked like hell. The one advertisement for the world is go to Prague, have a great time in Europe, then bring the family over after a week, have an extended vacation. And so that was the hardest draw ever for the World Championships and somehow these guys got the memory of a lifetime, right? It's hard and you're right. like with the Olympics down around the corner this is

the pre-empt like this is the you know the four nations face off whatever it was it ended up being a fantastic tournament it wasn't you know before the tournament we're all going what the hell is this gonna look like? Right but it ended up mattering what's happened. It ended up being great I just think that it would be I would I would look at it in both sense and you said it could be on both sides but shame on Hockey Canada if they don't take the best players available if they're gonna be that petty. That's the way it should be. That's fair. That's the way it should be. You're gonna be petty that you didn't do something at the end of the season when you just played 82 games and

Suzuki had a great season. If he chooses not to because his groins are sore he's got a bad, you know, sore back or something or he just wants to spend time with his buddies. He should be able to do that. Yeah, not obligated to do that No, you're not obligated to go like you guys ever go. I was in There was one time I was like they asked guys Suzuki like five times. I did. Why would I go over? I got to talk to the trainers. Did you ever say no? Oh, I said no, I think four times I gotta talk to the trainers. Did you ever say no? I said no, I think four times. Five times.

No, your trainers said no, the medical team. That's the play. Just say I never got the green light. No, I honestly, like, when I get eliminated from the Stanley Cup playoffs, I'm not going anywhere, man. I'm sorry. And I had to say no to Lanny McDonald. He's like, come on, man, I need you.

Like, we'll fly first class, me and you, we'll have some beers in the play. And I go, Lanny, I'm sorry man, I love ya, I ain't goin'. Yeah, I have a tip in the ground tomorrow morning at 748 AM Eastern time. Well, all the stories I've ever heard was guys are just over there and they're crushed and they're hammered. It's not like it was very serious back in that day,

so I'm like, thanks but no thanks. It was a little different back then. I think it's a lot different nowadays, put it that way. Quickly here before we get you out of here, the draft lotteries tonight, which team in the lottery if they win causes the biggest reaction? So it's San Jose, Chicago, Nashville, Philly, Boston, those are the top five. And Seattle, Buffalo, Anaheim, Pittsburgh, the Allenders, the Rangers.

Probably the biggest reaction is... Boston? Boston? I? Boston? I feel like Boston bottoming out and then getting the first pick overall would be crazy considering they've been so good for so long. Most exciting for me would be San Jose or Chicago. Because they've already got pieces. They've got pieces that...

Now you add another player in there. Now you're kind of off the race. There's so many players away though. It's not even... Nashville would be interesting. How about the Rangers at 11? You imagine Mike Sullivan walks up there day one with a first overall pick? That would be sick. Yeah. What about your Buffalo Sabres? They deserve it man. I would love to see that. Get another good young defenseman. I love the idea of Schaefer being added to that group. Yeah. I love

that idea. All right. I don't know. I mean, you can make a case for everything. Boston would be cool. Well, cool is a stretch. I mean, they've had one. Yeah, that's the wrong word. They had a bad second half.

And if they end up winning, like they had an awful second half to get there. They were in the playoffs like four months ago. But they did that again, like, strategically. Beautiful bottom out. We used to do that thing when we had the rights. We did about eight lotteries in a row during that span when Edmonton won four out of five years, what was it? Three out of four years and it almost got, who was it, Steve Tambolini. It got awkward. It got awkward. He would win the draft lottery and go, sorry. Okay, there you are Steve, not you again.

I had to go over an interview, he was like, ah, we won again. Well then they finally won it and he wasn't even there. Looks like Neil Yakapoff this year. You get McDavid and there's Peter Sciarelli. Standing there. That one stings for Steve D'Appellini. Alright JD, O'Dog, we'll catch you guys on the panel. It's going to be a fun one tonight.

Full breakdown after the game, right? On SportsCenter, YouTube, the Hot Zone. Odog is very, he's a creator now. A content creator on YouTube. Content creator, I love it. Okay, we'll catch that on the TSN YouTube page. Alright boys, enjoy yourselves. The biggest songs in the world.

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