OverDrive - Johnson on the Maple Leafs looking to rewrite playoff history, the stars' spotlight and Tocchet out from Vancouver

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joined OverDrive to discuss the headlines around the Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Maple Leafs' mentality against the Senators, the stars' imperative opportunity to perform, Rick Tocchet's departure from the Canucks, the head coaching spots around the league and more.

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Join today and be part of something amazing. Mike Johnson. Yes! How we doing, Johnny? I see my accusers face to face. Do you remember the last time we had a conversation? Absolutely. What happened?

Well, you said the leads would get swept in the first round. I'm not sure if that was the nature of the conversation. Something about stats nerds and dumpers. You're a goalie attacker. This side of the table. This guy is okay. He's over here for a reason. Noodle is friends with everybody. I have issues with goal tenors. You have issues with analytics and stats. I don't. That's factual. Just own it. And I don't know how you you picked up on some shrapnel, Johnny. I took a couple strays. Good to see you. I have weird issues with like random things. I don't know what it is. Like traffic. I was pissed. Traffic is an issue for you. I'm driving from Real Sports up here. I don't know why they decide to do work. Yeah, the Leafs are

planned tonight. The Jays are on. Right on the go. Right by the guy right by after his plan right by the ring. They're digging it up I'm like this is gonna be a mess You take me my favorite thing about the Gardner is the other day I left before to come in here and I was watching CP 24 and they're like They're out there a year and a half ahead of schedule on the Gardner. I drove on the Gardner There was one guy with a shovel and one guy getting in a porta potty. That was it That was all that was working on the Gardner there was one guy with a shovel and one guy getting in a port-a-potty that was it that was all that was working on the Gardner like there's two guys helping but if you go talk to people that live by Eglinton man that's yeah they're probably that's probably accurate at least they got someone working on it sort of like the LRT's been a decade dude faster you did go right to

Scarborough town yeah take the train to Yonge and take the like the subway yeah take you 45 minutes I know I'm worried about when I'm gonna walk in the building. You're making it for the third period and I can't wait for your analysis about what happened the first and second. Oh, it'll be a full breakdown. You'll be watching it on your phone the whole time. I'll be listening on the way down

and possibly watching when I get there. We'll see. I'll bring the heat, don't you worry about me. I have data, I'm not worried about you. You guys will be on the panel tonight. You'll be Ford in the car or whatever. What's he reading? Yeah, Rob Ford, he's reading emails on the Gardner. He's like, oh, that's an interesting take. And someone's like? Yeah, Rob Ford is reading emails on the Gardner

Take it someone's like that's Rob Ford Yeah, it's like oh yeah, I guess well, yeah Working we're gonna be listening. He was a man of the people Robbie Ford. There's no no disputing that Alright, where do you where does your head go first here? Johnny? Do you lean the intensity needed for the Leafs tonight? I mean, it goes without saying, Ottawa, they've got to, if they don't show up tonight, it's like, what would you, what are you doing? I mean, you're down 3-1 in the series. I, it would be hard press for me to understand if either team is not, left the game saying like they weren't fully, fully invested in everything they had.

Right. They may not execute, might not work, but they're given her. left the game saying like they weren't fully fully invested in everything they had right they may not execute might not work but they're giving her my mind goes to the Leafs history i mean that's the first thing that goes they're in a great spot and it's so strange because of their history like is anyone talking to Carolina like oh you've lost the game how you feeling only being up three one is everyone talking to Washington well you're only up 3-1. No, they're delighted they're up 3-1. Right, you're in the drivers. You're right where you want to be, and yet because of what Toronto has done, it's shocking really.

I mean, look at that. 12 losses and 1 win in 13 potential winning situations. When the fact is, what's crazy about the, we need to wrap your head around this number, is that the team played well enough and was good enough to have a clinching game They weren't playing teams that were way better than them They were playing against teams that they were as good of or better than up to that point So that's where my mind goes like what can they do and oh, I don't have to hear you say it again You said it so many times or so many years

in this moment Have one of these guys have a game that they're capable of and like yeah I got two and two like McDavid like dry sell like we're just talking about those two guys Johnny it seems like like all series like in every game when the Oilers need something those two guys provided now whether that's fair or unfair or a disadvantage to the Oilers, those guys just get it done, man. That Dry Silo, you talk about him every year. He's an animal. He's the most clutch player performer in the game.

It's like he literally scores every game. Every single game. Well, that's how late he does. He's got like 19 goals in 22 games or something. Yeah, he's got a 19-game- Like, he'll score tonight. There's no point even predicting it. So that's what I'm thinking. And, he's got a 19. Like he'll score tonight. It's not even, there's no point even predicting it. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. And it is about the team game. Do they do that? It's like one of those guys, can they have that moment?

They've had so many chances. Is there one in particular that like, why isn't it Austin? This is what I've talked about a lot over the, go ahead. But if I, if you say, I think the most likely, the most likely guy to do it? Willie. Yes. No, Willie. Yes. I agree with you. You look at his numbers in these kind of games, in these situations, for whatever reason he's able to sort of let his physical skills come to the forefront. And I thought he actually played pretty well in game four after he's been good in the series, but he hasn't been dominant. I thought he was pretty good in game four. And I just like, this is the kind of game two days off he's rested. If one guy is going to go out there and run it around and really snap it around I would

say Willie the only reason I said Mitch is because if he comes kind of uses that four nations it's like you know like hey I got a big assist on the game-winning goal and the four nations like you know that that tournament there were games where I didn't think he was very noticeable but then all of a sudden he's there it was scores and over time yes it was three on three different scenario but you know I could see him doing something but you come back to it why not 34 it should be 34 first right every time I can order like you want to be if you want to have the title as one of the best players in the world the top player in the world they usually get it done donnie do you think there's any assistance like a

new coach could provide these guys to feel any different about the scenario like is there anything you could say to relax them or to make it more i don't know or is it just like this is your gig and you're big-time players for a reason you got to go out there and do it I mean, I don't know about you guys like Coaches had a slight impact on how I felt about going out there, but not a lot like a big rah rah speech I'm like it's still on me. It's like the coach not getting fired up to play well or not fired up to play poorly It's always on the player. The one thing I will say is that Craig Barube, as intimidating

as the person he is, he is remarkably calm. And so he's not going to up sort of the blood pressure of anyone during the day, at practice, at the video session. There is a calmness to him. And I suppose if you're going to say he's done it before, he's won before, if you're willing to believe a little bit more what he says as opposed to what maybe Shelton Keefe said who hasn't won in the Stanley Cup playoffs like Craig Brubbe has, maybe, but again, I just give it to the players. You can put Newt Rockne in there, you can put Scotty Bowman, you can put whoever, but Brian Hayes.

I don't think it's going to make a big difference one way. It shouldn't make a big difference I would I would I'd start yelling at stores before the game They get ready Joseph wall if you don't play well, you're out You'd be my Keenan you would pull the guy after the first goal and then put him back in Keenan Keenan got a cup He did but he's got a ring Keenan would pull Fearsie. Remember that one year Keenan Fearsie played 79 games He pulled he got pulled 12 times that year people forget like but he Keenan would like I didn't like his warm-up pull him after the first shot it would be zero zero he pull him I love that mentality it was what he did that wasn't

ready to rock I don't like he wanted Fears he to have the record for games played in but he was gonna plan to play the other guy but start Fierze and pull him right away. It's like a quarterback going out for one snap and then leaving. That was, I mean, Brent Burns. Who was that? Josh Allen did it. Yeah, no, a basketball player. Well, yeah, so basketball.

Foul the guy for three seconds to keep his consecutive games played. Mikael Bridges. Yeah, Bridges. I did that last Carolina game against Ottawa. Brent Burns has the Ironman streak. He played like 14 seconds. And then they just which is kind of bench it's a little bit disingenuous. He played a game in Toronto flew home to have a kid yeah he played a shift jumped on the private bird went home and came back two days later to keep the streak going

I mean get him on the ice and get him out. Pretty impressive streak. You'd appreciate that as a player. Well yeah no exactly listen I'm just saying and maybe I'm wrong on this I did Gordy Howe play one shift and leave ever? I feel like Gordie probably played 20 minutes every night. Probably. And elbowed somebody. He was playing, man. It's an A5-3-5. Yeah, he was playing. I think the goalie is important tonight, but I don't think, I think it's more of what you said. I think it's the star players that If the team plays solid like they did, you know give limiting chances, you know Smothering Ottawa then Stolars doesn't have to factor in and steal the game feels like it

All mark is more of the story in terms of the goaltenders tonight Like all mark has got to play well needless to say I mean if he let if he lets in a leaky one or a couple leaky ones, I think scoring first is massive tonight. The Leafs have played very comfortable with the lead. I'm curious about, especially you guys, because you guys really ride the roller coaster. What would feel better tomorrow?

Leafs win comfortably 5-2 in control, spread it around, everyone kind of gets a piece, kind of like game one. Or, nail-biter, hard fought, Leafs win, and one of the big boys has an end-to-end rush to win it 3-2 in 30 seconds. That's your answer right there. I'm going to say the latter because I think it would be better preparation for whoever you get next. Like for one guy to step up, it's a stupid answer, I know.

It's a great hypothetical though. Yeah, like I would, because if there's another nail biter down the stretch, I want somebody to at least feel good about themselves that that board that Joe puts up is going to be starting to be lit on fire, and it's not the case anymore. So somebody to step up, that's what I want. Not the fact that this team is different because they're different team not because they got a good great player but like the fact that you know I'd love to see them all-line score stores be good power play be solid 5-2

never never break a sweat right I'm not gonna that's not a bad option that's the more professional look but that's what I think i think people now bowl given the history and give a lack of success in these moments for the big guys like i think somehow to what prefer the big well it's a listen it's a side story that uh... takes up a lot of oxygen but it should and you know you do you solve it exactly i mean let's call it what it is like

austin matthews mitch marner like they have to prove their playoff performers, right? They're not until they actually prove it. They've had ample opportunity. It's not like they've only been the playoffs twice No, and they're not here in the playoffs, but they've gotten through keep in mind They've gotten through to that second round like and we haven't talked about it because they're not there yet So like let's not put the cart before the horse But the team that's waiting for you on the other side that's gonna be out of a challenge regardless of who it is that's where you're gonna need to continue to build on your game build on your confidence build on everything knock on wood for

health all the things that come with having success you just got a fight that's why I said and I wanted to ask him would you shorten the bench tonight if you had to what's the next game two days Thursday Thursday? Saturday. Yeah, if they lose No, I Shorten the hell out of it if it's close in the third period like I play it normal I don't shorten it early right, but if it gets the third period and it's tied right then yeah, 25 minutes I think you find you try to just find shifts instead of shortening the bench If you get a fourth line cut out with an icing you toss them out there

Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah different. I'm not I'm not gonna say lot never plays or Domi never plays Not that kind of shortening but more The guys probably if they play normally the top guys would be 22 the 21 in a playoff game If you have pushed out to 25 like they did last game now went to over. Yeah. Yeah. I would do that tonight if I had to. Like I would, I would slide him in. I would, okay, maybe it's a shift where the arm croak doesn't go and hey, Mitch, go play on the fourth line. Or wouldn't you expect the players to want that? Of course. Like that's kind of what you're hoping. Everybody always wants that. Yes. Put me, put me on the ice.

And you don't ever think that your game is deteriorating because you play too much. Like you don't even really feel it. You're like, no, I feel good, I'm playing a lot. It's not really to maybe look after the fact or maybe the next day, like maybe I was a little tired there and I wasn't as good as I should have been, but I would, I would 100% shorten it. Not quite like LA.

Yeah. LA from the puck drop played nine forwards and four and a half defensemen. Yeah. This is the D man they're trying to hide. Brant Clark was the fifth guy and a D man a half defensemen. Yeah. This is the D-man they're trying to hide. But Brant Clark was the fifth guy and a D-man named Moravare. Yeah. You've never heard?

Moravare. Moravare. Jacob Moravare. Moravare. Yeah. Moravare. That's why we let the play-by-play guy go. You say his name.

Go ahead. M-O-R-E-V-A-R-E or whatever. Moravare or whatever. Okay. We got you. He played two minutes. Yeah. are you over air or whatever okay we got played two minutes yeah which team benefits more from the refs putting the whistle away tonight no penalties what's

the whistle away who would want that more definitely definitely power play good power play I know it wasn't leading the score last game yeah special teams I thought that was a big part of last game that Ottawa started feeling good about it and all you're right. But they... I just think you're playing with fire. Like, we saw what happened in game one. They took way too many penalties that cost them the power play. What, three for six that night?

And they were 0-3 on the power play. I feel, and it comes back to... Five on five, regardless of the lack of shots, they feel like they've played pretty well. Special teams have been a big difference. Five on five, regardless of the lack of shots, they feel like they've played pretty well. Special teams have been a big difference. And really, the special team battle, Ottawa won it last game, they won the game. So I would say if the refs say you guys sorted out, Ottawa would probably want that. I don't know how you...

I know, 100%. Although I think Ottawa scored a power play goal in a three straight game. And a short, shorty deal. But like a few games in a row Ottawa has scored a power play goal in a three straight game. And a short, shorty the other. In a few games in a row Ottawa has scored a power play goal. So it's not like they've been really struggling either. But no, I think for all the obvious reasons how good the power play has been, but also how the top guys thrive on good touches on the power play, even when they don't score. They get some handles, they get a couple shots, they get to feel it a little bit.

Yeah, I think Ottawa would take a five on five, 60 minute game all the way. They love you know they get some handles they get a couple shots they get to feel it a little bit Yeah, I think Ottawa would take a five on five sixty minute game all the way and The longer you play five on five the more likely it is that nothing happens and the longer nothing happens the more Stress and strain goes to Toronto versus Ottawa, which is amazing because the Leafs are up 3-1 in the series Yeah, but their history is what it is and they're supposed to close and you don't want to go back to Ottawa. So naturally I understand why it's there. But that's fair on any team that's up 3-1. Like Carolina's got, I would think Carolina wants to finish Jersey off. Yeah of course. But I'm saying if it's 2-2 in the third period, Carolina-Jersey versus Toronto-Ottawa, Toronto is feeling way more stressed than Carolina in that moment. Or maybe the general atmosphere will be one of

tension versus one of opportunity. I often wonder though, we are on the outside of that dressing room and on the bench and we're not on the bench and all that. We in the media, the fan base feels that stress. You know what you've seen the players, been on the bench and that, like those guys are pretty, you know, they're a lot different than we think they are. That's why they're fighting their nails thinking, oh no, oh no. Plus, good point, like how many important players are new with Ekman Larson and Tanav and Stoelars and Carlo and hoping that helps. These guys have no scar tissue at Toronto. Well and that's the reality is like if the Leafs lose tonight you might as well send the

five players over there the core four and Morgan Riley and say you're doing your own press conference in an auditorium because there's a million people here to talk to you five, the other team can go over here and have a reasonable, you're still up three, two in the series, press her, I mean that's the truth. Not far from it. Those five guys are separated. They're the ones that have been here. Everyone else in the organization is turned over.

And it's one simple question, if it doesn't go well, why does this keep happening? One for flame, one for 14 if they don't win tonight. One for 14. Again, context of our topic. What if it's another overtime goal and it's a close game? You're like, okay. Like at the start of the series,

I don't know what you called. Did you call Leaves and Six? I called Toronto and Six. Okay, so if it goes six. It fell right there for you. Right, I don't know what you called. Yeah, that would have been reasonable. But I think a lot of people were like Leaveson 6, Leaveson 7, you know.

That doesn't mean you're allowed to give them another gift. I'm trying to get context to it. With three overtime games in a row. Your McElroy's caddy going back for a playoff run. Right. On Monday you would have taken this. Right. Like you just, the point being is like Ottawa's going to play hard tonight. I don't know what's going to happen, but I

I think they want to keep it close. They're going to try and battle and get it back in their minds. They're going So you got to win one on the road because we want to get it back to on we've talked about who we're looking at In toronto, like who's got to step up. Who is it? Who is that in auto outside of all mark or just all? Yeah, push the goaltender out out of like the goaltaltender you gotta have. To me. I think Stuczla is an obvious one. I think, like Brady's pretty impactful though. Like you notice him out there, like he's a physical. He's so physical and you know where he's going.

He's going to areas that make noise. I think if Pinto has a good game, because Pinto's a swing guy, because he makes life tough on the other team's good players. That's fair. So if Pinto has a very good game, he doesn't need to score. But if he makes Austin Matthews less than great or dominates Tavares possession and chances and maybe gets a goal, like to me he's a swing guy where it could go really well when he has a good game versus if he loses that battle, it's a good chance they

lose the game. I would say Batherson because he's been littered all over these games good and bad. Like I thought he was their best senator game one. He looked really good. He looked comfortable. Game two, the turnover that you know the turnover and the soft play on Domi. Last game he's high stick in TANF. Yeah. TANF. Like almost almost, I mean Tana's not gonna lose any more teeth. I don't know. I don't know where that blood came from. Well people were like. He's got no jibs or anything. Yeah but people were like. He's got a leather face. He got him in the nose but he was bleeding out of his mouth. He's like, he may have bit his lip because he's got three teeth in there, who knows. But it was, he came out with a handful of blood. People thought he was the Cuban assassin from stampede wrestling.

If Tavares knew there was a power play going on, apparently he didn't even know. Because they took him off Quiet Room, he looked like his head was... Can you imagine how quick you would try to buzz through the protocol if you knew you had a four minute power play to win a series in a sweep? And you're a state power play guy? And I'm glad they did it. I'm 100% glad they did it. You gotta be consistent with it if you're a state powerplay guy. And I'm glad they did it. I'm 100% glad that you got to be consistent with it. It's for the best of the athletes,

protect us from ourselves. Cause every single one of us in this table, be like, check me in 10 minutes or check me in four minutes. Just let me play the power play. We'll figure it out after that. But if you knew it was right there on your stick, you'd be like, yeah, I'm passed. Yeah.

Let's go. Put me down for C on all of these. It's Saturday. I'm going. Right. Exactly. Multiple choice. I'll take A if I was support. Yeah, let's go. Put me down for C on all of these. It's Saturday. I'm going. Right, exactly. Multiple choice. I'll take A if I was to go on board. Do you remember those concussions? Like, I'm sure it's changed. All the words that start with the letter D. Go! 30 seconds. I remember on the clear one, without a concussion, having stage fright.

And it was like, all the letters you could think of was C. I was like saying swear words. I could imagine what you said. And there was a lady and I was like oh my god I'm so sorry and it was like four words. I could have got the biggest concussion and hammered off 10 words but in my baseline I had like four words because I had stage fright. Your boy Tyson Nash would acknowledge he intentionally fumbled those tests. So if he ever got one during a game, he would probably be around the same level. Right. Intentionally, too poorly.

You're an idiot, but you're not the best. Yeah, you're a certified idiot here. Like I literally, no joke, she was like F, and I go fart. Like fine, like F word, you know, swear. yeah swear like yeah get him back out there ridiculous your helmet on yeah you're good kid keep playing Johnny let me ask you if you were a coach mm-hmm and you could call an organization a lot of openings right now okay who would be the first call you made if that's the way it let me run through the vacancies. You're talking open jobs right now? Open jobs.

Well, Vancouver, because Rick Tauke just set them out. Bruins, Rangers, Flyers, Blackhawks, Ducks, Kraken, Penguins. So if I am, I got a two-part answer, sorry. If I'm a veteran guy, if I'm Mike Sullivan, I want the Rangers or probably the Bruins. Kind of like a little, like the Rangers are maybe closest to being competitive in the moment. Not, I don't think they're going to win, but they'll be good and then you can make them be good. Boston, I think is better than they showed this year. If you're a younger guy, I would be attracted to Anaheim. I love that

life and I love that team. And where's Vancouver on the list there's sort of murky middle right now for me and his has him bottom I would I would be middle on anything right like they're not ascending that market and they don't love paying their coaches a lot I think that's the fact of Rick talking not being there they don't want to pay the top dollar so if you're a coach who's not gonna command a top dollar Maybe doesn't have that resume. They'd be a good option. So what would you guys Rick talk?

I would say look I'm a coach of the year if you want me back here It's gonna be what it's gonna be five million bucks. Yeah, and they say we don't pay our coaches more in three now They're not alone. There's other teams that like Boston famously the same thing like I'm not paying. I'm not paying I'm not gonna do it like I better snap out of that because if you want the guy that you want in a quality coach that's what they cost. Well look at Jim Montgomery, like he wins coach of the year and he wins it. Yeah no problem giving a guy six million dollars that scores four goals on the third line, pay the coach.

No I get it but they have this mantra and certain organizations, it's interesting talking to coaches because a lot of them now will share salaries. Like they'll share what they're making so that they can use it as ammunition. And for years Roddy Bryndamore was like, when organizations would bring up Rod Bryndamore to a prospective coach, they're like, don't even talk to me about that guy. That guy is getting jammed,

and he's given the hometown discount. Talk to me about people that are in, because Bryndamore's a hell of a coach, and I believe he's given the hometown discount. Talk to me about people like that are in because Brendan Moore is a hell of a coach and I believe he's getting paid now. I think not as much. He's still I don't know what the number and he like the good guy that he is he like said okay I'll take less but you pay my assistants more you pay the trainers more you pay the equipment guys more all that so I mean doesn't it make sense though? Tauke goes to Philly. Sully goes Mike Sullivan goes to New York. Or his son-in-law plays for Boston.

Charlie McAvoy's his son-in-law. His marriage with his daughter. That would be weird, man. It would be weird. I would not want that about McAvoy. Well, yeah, I understand how you say it. But McAvoy's also a superstar. It makes it more manageable.

If you're Mason Louraille, a son-in-law, why is he on the power play? It's no preferential treatment. He's always gonna get the best treatment because he deserves it. but rangers or boston and then david carl apparently shot down chicago that's a tough that's a bad look yeah because they were all in on him now i don't know if they're going to pay him you have to pay him a lot to get him out of school out of denver university but college coach but they make bang i understand that but i like national hard to watch them from

afar the world juniors i think he i don't know yeah thirty four five years old i'm i'm not exactly what you want him i'm talking about chicago i know like if you can't make all the money you have regional six that market you got the guy i got all you'll be drooling that's what i'm saying and how often is a college coach

it's like uh... what's his name did that to the lakers uh... what's his name down a uconn and he was like man i could about any bobby hurley denny earlier denny her had the option it's like you're gonna stay in college over the lakers has a unique yeah i was that act would not play in a in professional basketball not any early snow and maybe he knew that i'm gonna get there in lebron's Yeah, that was that act would not play in professional basketball. No, Danny Hurley's. No, and maybe he knew that.

I'm going to get there in LeBron's going to look at me and say, that's not how things work here. Well, what's what's the guy who had the bar play? What was his name? The in football. Oh, Urban Meyer. Yeah, Urban, that was a transition for Urban. When you get college coaches that turn pro, he really and former bowling green coach.

Yeah, we turn them out. Yeah. So that's where he first came to fame. Did you ever come across frill, he really enjoyed it. Former Bowling Green coach. We'd turn him out. That's where he first came to fame. Did you ever come across him? No, he was after me. He went BG to Utah to Miami, Ohio State, whatever. He might have had some... So Hayes, you don't like Vancouver? I wouldn't want that job.

Would you take Seattle over Vancouver? Not necessarily either, man. I mean, honestly, I don't... I gotta be honest, I wouldn't want Pittsburgh. Put it this way. There are... Like, there's a lot, these jobs, they're open for a reason and I don't love them. But they are, I mean, Seattle's in a rebuild and you know, they do have a couple good years. They're four years old. I know, but it's wild. They

got a cycle back. Sorry, rebuild is the wrong word. They're in a build. They're still building. They're building. They made the playoffs. They have permit issues. On the second year, which is probably. Bureaucracy out there. They're stuck in committee of adjustments. Yeah, there's a lot of bureaucracy. That was an outlier, them making the playoffs. Yeah. Yes. So they're still in a build. But I think they're, you know, Anaheim, like there is some attractive teams.

It depends on what you are and what you want as a coach. Sure. That's the way I know. I know we got to go. Round the horn. They win tonight? Leaves? Yeah. Before I leave, I need to hear it. Yes, I think they're going to win tonight? Leaves? Yeah. Before I leave I need to hear it. Yes, I think they're gonna win tonight. I will I will go on the record. God damn right they're gonna win tonight. I don't want to have to come in here the beards off. You're gonna get rid of the beard during the playoffs in the first round? Dude. Can't

do that. You remember the saying, you remember the saying you remember the quote remember the quote you look like John Daly idiot that's the quote nothing nothing changes nothing changes right John Daly once said that yeah I can't believe you said that in Augusta you look like John Daly what kind of famous quote is that? Noodle said that he drove hisb into hooters and said hey yeah and man he sets up shop at hooters down there in augusta look at this guy there's oh that's oh that's on saturday night if it goes to game seven that'll be oh saturday night game seven imagine the post game if i don't even want to get there you don't want to throw that into the universe man all right boys well we'll catch you guys tonight on the panel. Good luck. It'll be a good one. The hot zone tonight. The hot zone will be cooking on YouTube man. You guys are doing great work. Yeah, wish me luck. I think they'll be down there six

minutes into the first. No way. It's a late puck drop. It'll be 7-15 ish puck drop. 7-20 they don't drop the puck. 78 first game. 708 first game. You did not see the construction that I saw. I know the construction. I'm aware of the construction. My Carber 60 was basically closed off. It was one lane and people were there were some angry Lieutenant Dan's down. So I'll be laying on the horn southbound on the TVP. Like it was not good. Watch yourself JP. Yeah.

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