OverDrive - OverDrive - April 10, 2025 - Hour 2
Episode Date: April 10, 2025Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! ESPN Hockey Analyst Kevin Weekes joins to discuss the Maple Leafs' team approach, the goaltending mentality and the Rangers' ...tough ride. They also discuss Luka Doncic's return to Dallas, his impressive performance against the Mavericks and the Eastern Conference pursuit towards the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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Fanduo bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Kevin Weeks coming
up here in a few moments. He's taken the Leaf win last night. Matthew Nyes and his future.
How important he is to the Maple Leafs. There's a lot to get into in terms of what else is going on throughout
the league because we're 10 days away from go time, less than that now, a week away I
guess from the regular season coming to an end.
Everybody's talking Nyes' contract already. Can they not just like...
I know, just let it...
That gets a hat-trick, you gotta give him...
That's Canada, that's Toronto. It had nothing to do with the hat-tr I gotta give up the I get 10 million
Nothing to do with the hat trick how good he's playing how good of a player it's just it goes right to contract That's why I'm so sick of like I would for one year like to discuss winning in a couple weeks
Like it because that's all it's been it's like oh this guy did this individually now
What's his contract and it's been Neellander, Tavares, Marner, Matthews
a couple times.
It's so, I'm so done with contract talk.
But it is going to be a hot button topic
because he's an RFA.
So you're going to bridge him, bridge him,
and then see what he is.
Like I, I think it's the key goal.
Well, Noodles, the other thing that follows up
on top of Matthew or nice contract is I think other people
Other than discussing the obvious because of what happened with the Edmonton Oilers and losing two players to st. Louis. I think people
Toronto hater type people love bringing up the idea of the offer sheet coming like it's just
It's a rite of passage where it's like, oh, that guy's going to get
offer sheeted. It's just okay. I think the Toronto Maple Leafs of any team, they're not
letting one of their star players get offer sheeted. Not happening.
The also thing is, keep in mind, the player has to sign an offer sheet. You can offer
whatever you want. This is the other thing that that like Dylan Holloway and Philip Roburg could have said no we want to stay in this organization we see a
pathway here. They signed those offer sheets so there have been others. I'm I
would argue and you guys know agents I would argue there's probably been teams
that have talked to agents and said we're gonna offer sheet your client and
they said don't bother because he wants to stay where he's at. So that's the other thing too that people have to get in their mind just because a team
might go hey we want to give you three years at a crazy number to try and jam up the other
team.
The player has to sign that.
The player has to agree to up up serve his life and go somewhere else where he's not
getting passes from Mitch Marner or Austin
Matthews.
That's the thing, right?
It's like what has happened this year is Barube has committed to this line.
There have been times they've shifted things around, but it lasted for a very, very short
time and Barube has committed to it and you can see why.
You know, Marner's been great all year, Matthews has been very good.
He hasn't been as explosive, but he's been very good.
And that's the amazing thing is that Matthews probably has another layer of production,
if not more than that, like two or three layers of production to add to what that line has
already been.
And if you're Matthew Nyes and you have the ability to match up with those two guys, including
a guy in Austin who is from Arizona, which is where you're from, the uniqueness of two you guys And they're the faces of the Toronto Maple Leafs And you're right. I mean I by all accounts nice. He loves being here. He wants to be here. He's gonna stay here
They're gonna figure it out. He's not going anywhere. The question is
Do you try to get out in front of a long-term deal?
Do you chew on an eight-year deal a bigger money that maybe makes you right now say I don't know
That's a lot of money
But if he consistently is a 30 goal, 60 point guy
in two or three years, it's gonna be a bargain.
In five years, it'll be a great contract.
You're doing those deals, Hayes, it's a risk no matter what.
Just because a guy scores 30 goals this year
and you lock him up to a long term,
there's always, you're taking on risk.
It can spin both ways.
Of course it can.
Three years from now, it could be a 45 goal scorer
and you're like, man, thank God we got him at that number.
But if he's got 15 a bunch of years, you're like, we jumped the gun.
That's the question.
Do you have the courage to go for it or not?
You know, that's why these managers get paid.
They got to make those calls.
But that's, you know, that's why, like he has to also factor in, like there's a chance
that, you know, one of those guys that he's playing with might not be on the team next year, the guy who gives those great passes.
Now, there'll be somebody else, obviously, to fill that role if Marner doesn't sign.
But in the end, all of that stuff, there's no reason to do it right now.
You wait until things sort out, the dust settles, and then you take a look at this individually.
I was looking at comparables today.
The only thing, obviously, I do those Ottawa games. Like, some of those deals look pretty damn good,
right? And Jake Sanderson's deal looks pretty damn good. Tim Stootsla's, you know, Brady Kachak,
Drake Batherson's got 60 or 70 points. He makes 4.9. Like, you know, and they took a chance on
this. Montreal, like the thing is, it's different in every organization and somebody brought
it up to me and I said, well, you can use comparables, but the Toronto Maple Leafs historically
have done it internally.
You compare against yourselves, not that guy on that other team or in Arizona, or sorry,
in Utah or whatever.
It's like, well, this player makes this. OK, but where does Matthew Nyes fall
in the depth chart of importance for his particular team?
That's kind of what's jammed up.
That'll be interesting.
And the difference between the Leafs in Ottawa and Montreal
is those two teams, Ottawa-Montreal,
didn't have guys making $13 million, and $11 million,
and $12 million.
So it was a very different scenario.
But Ottawa got out in front of a lot of them, and they just moved off one.
They looked at Josh Norris and said, no, thanks.
But they brought in Dylan Cousins, a guy with term and a guy with a similar age group.
That's what I was just going to say.
He might be a comparable.
Dylan Cousins makes 7.1 on a long-term deal.
He had 31 goals as a 21 year old and
Then but then it if that's the thing production wise it's it's you know above it. It's below it
That's a thing that I still think it might have to be a bridge to see what this player is because well
That's I understand what you're saying
but again
That's like the the dance with the salary cap is you've you've got a kind of gamble and hope it works
And you get a great deal another example is Tom Wilson Tom Wilson different beasts
Well remember one beat when he got his deal like eight years five point one or something the whole league was like
What are you doing this guy fights and blah blah blah?
Yeah, that's an unbelievable contract and they looked at him and they said we believe in this guy
We believe in how he plays we believe there's more offense there
We believe he could play with great players and it's just a brilliant contract and that's what they did with Suzuki
That's what they did with Kachuk. That's what they've done with a lot of different guys. I hear what you're saying
It's it's a gamble, but it is
You got us you got to pay him now so that you get a discount down the road
You've got to get discounts because they're not gonna get him on Marner or Matthews or Nylander those guys are getting paid top dollar
You know, they may meet that price. They're not gonna exceed it by five or six million dollars. Yeah
Anyway, big win last night Matthew nice was outstanding
Here he is from ESPN you see him on TSN all the time as well joining us here on the maple Toyota hotline here is
Kevin Weeks back on overdrive.
Weeks, how you doing?
What's up fellas? I'm good. How are you guys doing? We're doing well. That was a big two points for the Leafs.
I mean Tampa got got themselves a point as well as a fun, you know, thoroughly entertaining game.
But now the Leafs have a three-point buffer with four games to go. Is that enough for you
to think the Leafs can breathe easy a little bit here? Do you think the the division is wrapped up or where do you see this going with four games to go. Is that enough for you to think the Leafs can breathe easy a little bit here? Do you think the division is wrapped up or where do you see this going with four
games left?
I think it goes to game 82 for sure. But I would echo your point and we were saying this
on the area yesterday on the NHL number two that we felt like it, in fact both games in
Florida I felt were muscle and games for the Leafs. both games in Florida I felt were must-win games for
the Leafs I thought the Florida game they were sleepy certainly the performance
of Woll outside of that first goal by Forsling Woll played very well he stopped
14 to 15 first period he stopped the breakaway made the glove save to two
saves on that breakaway opportunity for March on the second period I feel that was a missed opportunity just based on who, yes, Barkov and
Forsling came back in lineup, which is huge for Florida, but they were
missing a lot of key guys too.
So I thought that was a missed opportunity, but they certainly bounced back
in Tampa last night with a much needed win.
I felt like they should have taken four points out of there on that trip, but
that was a
good bounce back win for them last night.
They certainly played much better overall.
Trasher, what do your colleagues and friends south of the border say about the Leafs this
year?
Is it the same old Leafs or do they have a differing opinion?
What does everybody say about these guys?
I love that you qualified it with South of the border
because we were just up in Teoh for five days.
And all of my buddies and friends and cousins
and everybody and non cousins, I think they're cousins.
Kev, what about the Leeds, man?
What do you think?
Kev, what do you think?
Is this the year?
I'm like, bro, we're at my 50th birthday right now.
We'll talk about that.
Anyway, so South here, okay.
So there's two trains of thought.
We have all of us fellow transplants that are here.
And a lot of them, you know, blue and white to the bone,
they bleed blue.
And a lot of them are saying, well,
they're gonna have to prove it to me in April and May. They're gonna have to prove it to me in April and May.
They're gonna have to prove it to me in April and May.
Then I'm in that category because I think that they have
the talent, Chief coming in has really tried to impart,
you know, on this group that they've gotta play
a harder game in terms of their details, be more direct,
play more northbound, do a lot of what Matthew Nise
has done when he plays at his best, for example. And then you have the other
group that thinks, hey they've made the changes, you're
bringing Carlo, you've got Tanev, you know, you have Chief, you have some new
personnel, the goaltending has been good. Why not them this spring? So it's
been a little bit kind of mixed
right now to be honest with you, old dog. So that's where you just brought it up
Weeksy. Where are you at with the goaltenders? I mean Stolars has won his
last six. He's been great. You know Wohl, you've just talked about how well he
played in Florida. He's a good young goaltender. Have you seen it? Just like
you said, have you seen enough? Do you believe? I mean, you know, Stollers has zero starts in the playoffs.
He's got one appearance last year. Woll has four starts. Is it kind of you got to need to show me or are you
comfortable that that they will be able to do the job regardless of the lack of experience in the playoffs?
Okay, you know, I think we all try to be as positive as possible.
I remember in, oh, you know this, when we played together in Carolina, I'd never played
in the playoffs either at the NHL level prior to that point.
But sometimes you get thrown in the pool and you just got to figure it out.
I feel like that's kind of the case.
Both guys have been really good all season noodles.
Now, you know, from your time, Grant Fuhrer,
some of these other guys that you had,
you played with, you partnered with Nick Kipper in Calgary,
you were his goalie coach.
You know those guys are a third bread,
they're running every night.
You know that, but this is a different model
that the Leafs have.
With this model, I think both goalies have been good,
but if you're asking me who my game one starter would be, as of now, barring anything unforeseen, I
would say Stoli. I would give Stolarz a start. It's not a knock. I'm a fan of Joseph Woll
since he was at Boston College. But I would give Stolarz a start, game one. And you've
got two guys that can kick, both guys that have played well all season long, but I would give Stolarz the start, game one, and you've got two guys that can kick, both
guys that have played well all season long, but I would start the playoffs opening game one, round
one, I would start Stolarz in game one. Well, and Wohl has done, over the last two years,
he's gone in during a series, so he actually has experience at that. It's not ideal, but he did it
a couple years ago with Samson off against Florida
I think it was and then last year we know what happened Samson off played himself out of the net and wall had to go in
So I do think that should be a part of the the kind of calculation here as well that you start stole ours
And wall has shown he's comfortable coming in and relief that that could be something he has to do again this year
Tony's comfortable coming in and relief that that could be something he has to do again this year
That's exactly how I got my feet wet to like we had you know art or stud art dessert They had gotten pulled a couple times. I went in relief a couple times and
You know that happened before I got my first start in the playoffs
So I totally echo what you're saying and especially for a younger goalie to like know, for mid-age younger goalie, that's helpful.
It's different, you know, as a veteran, older veteran,
but I think that that's helpful for Wol for sure.
We were talking yesterday about Shusterkin
and how he's a big-time goaltender,
commanded big-time money, got big-time money,
and they've got a back-to-back
and they don't play him yesterday. Like, I get it, it's back-to-back and they don't play him yesterday. Like I get it, it's
back-to-back but did you not find that crazy and then ultimately their season has blown up?
Like what the hell has gone on in New York this year?
Bro, we were just, I was just in New York, actually we were there this morning,
in the city this morning. I literally had three people stop me this morning on the way to doctor's appointment in the city and one of the three asked me the same question
that you did that you just asked me. I think it's first of all like from a team
standpoint I think this was one of the most you know sometimes you look back on
teams that you guys have played on and I'm sure you and Noodles will agree with me on this,
sometimes you look back and you're like, we have a good squad, like, we should have made a run.
Yeah. You know what I mean? You're like, this was a bit of a wasted year at Bois, like if we're real, having a couple pops, like we kind of wasted this season. That's how I feel it went for the Rangers, overall. In addition to that, they were just too easy to play games.
If I had a dollar for every player
that I spoke to this year,
and or coach or manager or whatever,
they said they lick their chops
when they play the games of Rangers
because they're easy to play.
And that's really-
But that's so not lavy, man.
Like that's just not lavy. not Lavi or Mike or anything like it
Correct and it's definitely not New York
Everything here is like contrary to what people think
Yeah, you can come on vacation and go to Times Square. Okay, but every day is like a blue-collar day
Like it's so hard to get around
It's so hard to like the standards the timing the everything the everything. Like it's just it's just blue-collar and
this team did not have very much blue-collar. And I say it's a wasted year
because Johnson Quick, future Hall of Famer Locke, maybe the Grant Fuhr-esque of our
Generation Noodles. I think like it's you have him who can still play, he can
still play. can still play you
have just your kin who's one of the best boys in the league and he's already one
of Vesna and that's like having two good quarterbacks but you don't have any
protection in front of them in no life so I feel that those are the reasons why
I feel like it's a wasted year and I agree with you
just your kin he's his game is tail. I think a lot of it has been frustration even
though that you know we have to guard against that but we're people. I think a lot of it
has been frustration with how the season has gone for them at the end but I know one thing
whatever the off season is and whoever's making the decisions on management and coaching and whatever else that looks like,
the construction of the team next year has to have players that are blue collar and that want to play
and that want to compete. Even if you're skilled, you still got to have like blue collar and play
hard and that was a big miss for their group this year seeing them up close so much.
With Kevin Weeks and I would say the Western Conference
Equivalent would probably be Vancouver in terms of expectation and the Canucks were mathematically eliminated last night
And I was reading quotes of Quinn Hughes today, you know talking up Rick Tuckett love him
Great coach the best and I'm thinking like talk it
We don't know what his future is gonna be because he's got an opt-out
He could stay in Vancouver. He may leave but if you're the Canucks and
Like for me we see everything is about making sure Quinn Hughes is happy
like it's the only thing really that matters after a debacle of a season like this if
Hughes is telling you I love Rick Tauke it. How do they not find a way to keep Rick Tauke it?
I'll echo all of what you just said.
I think all that makes sense.
I was just with Mr. and Mrs. Hughes and Jack
when we had our surgery.
Him, his shoulder, me and my tooth,
like surgery in Vail.
And I, listen,
Quinn Hughes is one of the best players.
I know Jack well, but I didn't know Quinn as well until this year.
Quinn Hughes is one of the best players on the planet.
He's a great guy.
They're a great family.
And you know what?
Let me, let me give the viewer, the listeners and the viewers this one.
They told me both his mom and dad have told me numerous times that they don't
think any of their three kids would have made the NHL if they didn't move to Canada.
And they said, and this is Mr. Hughes and Mr. Hughes talking, the access to top quality
players, top quality programs, skill development, and free outdoor rinks so that they could
also get free ice, they said it would have never happened for them if they didn't move to Canada for a while. So in saying all that, those
guys are big time players. Quinch uses an absolute stud and it's not about somebody
in Pittsburgh told me years ago when they were winning. We have a salary cap in terms of how much we can pay the
players. So we don't have a salary cap in terms of what we can spend and how we
treat them and their families. And that's kind of applicable here. Like if I'm the
Aqualini Brothers, I sit down with them, with Quinn, with the family, what do you need?
Are the feet good? Do you like ketchup chips like Weezy does?
Like what do you like?
Like what can we do for you?
Do you need a private jet a little bit more
to get to Jersey to see Luke and Jack?
Like what can we do?
Cause that's a big part of it.
That's a big, big part of it
when you have franchise players.
You know, they should have some input
in the way things
are done. So, and I use this as a case in point not to throw darts. And you guys have
heard me say this because my wife's from Calgary and noodles, you've, you're a part of that
organization a long time. But I feel where the flames messed up with Matthew Kachuck
is they had an opportunity to do likewise. And then they bridged them and then they can and the rest is
history. Yep. We can see before we get you out of here you are you still Forrest
Gump? Did you have the stilts on after the leg surgeries? Are you
alright? I'm a limp biscuit right now. I'm still limping.
What the hell did you have done?
Okay, so basically I had, alright, and the surgeon in Jersey after the final, after the
draft basically missed my injury, even after that surgery.
So I came up to T.O., saw the ace Dr. Gallia and Dr. Gallia told
me, he's like, listen, they missed it. This is what it is. You have a ruptured quad tendon
that right off that came all the blue off your kneecap. And it's all the way halfway
up into your groin. It's retracted. So you've got to get that done as soon as possible.
And you got to get to veil to get it done to the as possible and you got to get to Vail to get
it done to the Steadman Clinic.
So luckily my agent Dr. Galli and PO and Dr. Millett and them at Vail, they kind of talked
and I went out there and my sister-in-law met me there from Calg's and so I had that
done.
I had to get that repaired.
They had to drill three holes in my kneecap.
They had to fish it out, the tendon, pull it down,
sew it into my kneecap, and then do a sculpt.
So like a two plus hour surgery.
And they opened my leg up.
It looked like a baked potato at Ponderosa
that Owen and I would eat.
Yeah, that's not good, man.
That's not good.
But you're on the up and up now.
You're moving in the right direction.
Yeah, yeah. That's all that matters. You're limping in the right direction,. You're moving in the right direction. Yeah. Yeah.
That's all that matters.
You're limping in the right direction.
Yeah.
Limping in the right direction.
Yes.
Yes.
Good luck with the rehab.
Thank you, Weezy.
We appreciate you doing this.
Anytime, boys.
Thanks for having me on.
Keep up the good work, man.
You got it.
There's Kevin Weeks joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline.
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All right, well, yeah, we'll see what happens in Vancouver.
We'll see what happens with New York and the Rangers.
I think I mean you look at the Rangers poor labby.
I feel like they're gonna they might have a wholesale change.
They're like I don't know if because the owner is so unpredictable.
You don't know how is because the owner is so unpredictable.
You don't know what Jeff Jones is.
I know, but how many coaches do those guys got to mow?
No.
How many coaches are they going to mow through?
They mowed through Jerry Galant.
They mowed through David Quinn.
They got Lavie.
They were in the conference final.
And then all of a sudden, Lavie just turns into a dummy.
Sorry.
Not the case.
Oh, you're 100% right.
They won the President's trophy last year. They are
a very good team. And something happened in the off season. I think they were unhappy
with the playoffs. They found a way to blame it all on Jacob Truba. And then that was a
disaster. It started right in the off season where when you I would read like, you know,
blue shirts, like there's all sorts of, you know, fan based stuff out of there. and you read, it's like Jacob Truba, you look at his underlying numbers, he's gotta
go, he's the difference.
And then, Jamie, you heard about what Kevin just said, how easy they were playing against
all year.
It's like the spine got ripped out of their team, it was like there was no jam.
No jam, and then, you know, Keandre Miller, he's the best, and he had a slow start, and
then you look at Adam Fox, who looked he didn't look good this year.
Like their top players didn't have great seasons.
It happens. But I just I feel like I love you.
Is the only you can't change the players, all of them with the long term deals
and and no moves.
So Lavi's probably a dead man walking, which I'd hate to say,
because I really like him as a coach.
And the same thing in Vancouver
Hey, he's like I I look at the Canucks
You've got a circle Quinn Hughes and go whatever it's gonna take to keep you and you know
I see Brock Besser made a comment
I don't know if I'm gonna be back all of that type of stuff like they've got some players there that can play you
Need a healthy goaltender Demko's been playing in and out of the lineup
But they got to figure out what they're gonna do there and I you know I think
talk it I mean Philly's got to fill their spot in as a coach if I'm
Philadelphia Flyers I'm calling Rick Tauke and saying come home like he's
been there he was the spine of their team and the you know the the face of
their franchise for many years you know so I don't know it's definitely possible
I mean I my analysis of if I'm Rick Tauke, I mean, I'm weighing the pros and cons of
both in terms of who can get me to a winning position the fastest because like he doesn't
have a ton of coaching history of where he's actually with winning programs.
Right.
Like he starts in Arizona.
They were a disaster when he was down there.
So like why would, you know, again, Vancouver's missing.
They're not in a great position.
But Philly, to me, Philly's two or three years away.
It looks that way.
You know, again, I don't know what's under the hood.
We'll see what kind of kids they have coming
and what they do in the off season.
Things can change.
But they're kind of tanking.
They're kind of in that dropping below the belt
type of scenario.
So if you're Rick Tocket, he's just always losing teams.
That's kind of what his coaching career has been.
Well, I mean, you look at Van, you're right.
Maybe he wants to stay because maybe it was just a terrible season for this group and
they can get back to where they were last year.
Yeah, exactly. And as if Pedersen comes back and has a great season and Demko's healthy and Quinn Hughes,
like, you're onto something there.
Like, Jake DeBrusk had a really good season for them.
He settled in.
He was a nice signing.
I think it kind of falls under the radar.
You know, they got some players that Dakota Joshua had a, I think he was cancer.
Yes, he did.
Yeah, and he didn't start the season with the season like they they just had a one of those awful
like right off seasons but you're right if you're looking at the better scenario
like if you just roster you stay in van absolutely that would be my stance but
again money talks and also you know where your heart is and all that I mean
who knows maybe maybe Rick Tuckett does
Dream of coaching in Philly. That's certainly possible. That's true
All right, we got Pierre Lebrun still to come. We got Curtis Joseph coming up our best bets
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If you wanna win this thing, you gotta be in the 60s
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Alright, we'll come back and we'll get into that.
A little mini Jerry's still to come later this afternoon.
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princessmargaretlotto.com princessmargaretlotto.com how about Luca going off for 45 last night in Dallas?
You see that thing go down?
Wild, man.
Wild.
We somewhat reasoned with it, Hayes, saying, hey, you don't want to pay that kind of money,
but looking back, that is the stupidest, dumbest, craziest thing.
I don't know how anyone got the go-ahead to pull that off.
That's insane, man.
It's crazy.
The GM, Nico Harrison, is standing standing there they're chanting fire nico
well i did you see it mark cuban space to and i don't wait he's only the
minority owner whatever but like
they had mark cuban like
court-side if he was like burying his face in the top of our cuban at mark
cuban he always like he took his hands off that says i had no idea he had the he had no
he i think
more people knew that they're they would have no kids publicly indicate
like i still don't believe for a second lebron didn't know
i'm sorry i just percent i've learned no possible to believe lebron
didn't know that it was an option
uh... and mark cuban It's impossible to believe LeBron didn't know that it was an option.
Mark Cuban, yeah, he's got no power there anymore.
He's a minority owner.
He's sold off all the power.
There's nothing he can do.
It's easy for him to wash his hands of it, but I think he's being honest.
I don't think he ever would have moved off Luka.
It was a crazy scene, man.
The guys crying before the game.
They welcome him back, which you have to do,
but at the same time, it's almost like
if you tore the guy's heart out and ripped it off
and said you're out, why even do the whole thing?
Why do the tribute?
Yeah, why even do it?
Wow.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm torn on that.
After his career, if he comes back, it's one thing.
Maybe an acknowledgement in the first whistle or something.
Hey, thanks thanks welcome back.
They built this guy up like he won five statues and it was the end of his career and he was
40 and he said I'm going to go play in my hometown for a season.
They traded the guy and turned his life upside down.
Then he tore their hearts out last night.
The guy shot, what was he from the field?
The stats were unbelievable.
Almost a triple double, 45 points.
You know, he's leaving the court at the end,
they're going crazy for him.
Just an unbelievable scene last night.
That was tough, like there's Mark Cuban.
He's like shaking his head.
I was looking at their ownership,
like he owns 27% of the team now, I think.
So he owns 27%. You know what now I think so that's 27% you
know what the hell's going on he knew what was great he was more worried about
being political every time you turned around that guy was on CNN but he wasn't
paying attention what the hell's going on with his that, it still is the craziest trade.
Like, that's a superstar in his prime.
25 years old.
Sort of, sort of.
Like still there's more prime there.
There's more of a ceiling to reach.
They were in the NBA finals last year, man.
Oh my God.
Last year.
Yeah, it's stunning.
It's stunning and he loved it there.
He wanted to stay for life and
Yes, it was gonna cost a lot and everything they said listen We'll see what happens with the Lakers
but the Lakers are scary like because if LeBron's playing and that Austin Reeves is a great three man and they're there
You know JJ Reddick to his credit has done a really good job of keeping that team fresh and
There if they can avoid Golden State who lost a
brutal game last night actually helped the Raptors losing to San Antonio.
They get avoid Golden State in the first round you know you set up pretty well the Lakers
they might go on a run they really might and if Luca does that what a way to just start
your career in LA and take them on a championship run.
That guy will be the king of Hollywood.
Oh man well they love him in LA.
Love him, because Clippers are going to the playoffs,
they're gonna be a good team.
It was crazy seeing last night.
I wasn't sure what to expect, but I was surprised.
I guess I was surprised with the two minute tribute video,
him crying and then him going out.
I wasn't sure he was gonna even score
the way he did last night.
I thought he might struggle a little bit, like overly emotional and it
weighed on him and he just wanted it out of the way. It was the complete opposite. He
just towards that last night.
Dominated. Crazy.
Dominated. 45 points, 16 for 28 from the field and just hitting crazy shots, fadeaway threes
over street clothes, like everything.
Street clothes?
I feel for him in a way, because that guy won a championship for the Lakers.
Imagine being the guy that went the other way and all you're hearing all night is fire
the GM that did it.
That's an even more kind of cutting emotion, I would think, for him, that he knows nobody
wants him in Dallas.
No. They might as well move off of him, because no one will get by that and start liking him.
Unless they win.
He is associated with Luca forever in Dallas.
It is a bit weird.
The only thing for context that I remember, like Prongs got traded for Brendan Shanahan
who was a god in St. Louis.
And Prongs was this young punk, up and coming star.
And he tells stories.
The first couple of years they booed him.
It was tough.
Like you said, mentally it was tough.
He got traded for a legend.
And Shani moved on and but you know, he ended up Prongs ended up being you know
What he was and and very well, I mean he said the great
It was but it ended up being a great trade, but it was early on it was tough for Bronx
But now he was young and Shani was more established that's a different situation. Yeah, like Lucas, you know
25 years a younger one and Anthony Davis is 31, I think, 32. And Ky re-blues his knee out.
He's done for the year. It's just an unfortunate set of circumstances.
Dude, it's just crazy that someone had that brainchild of an idea and then they actually
got it to a point where they got lifto off on it. Like somebody has to step in.
You want to talk about a management team.
Like the biggest most important thing is,
and I always talk about GMs and the NHL,
you've got to have somebody close to you that
can talk you off a cliff if you're
about to do something stupid.
Yeah.
When you bring up the idea over beers, over a business meeting, over a team meeting that
Luca maybe goes out the door, somebody has to grab you by the arm and say, come here
for a second.
You need to shut up.
And if you do this or want to continue talking about this, it might cost everyone their jobs.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's exactly what should have happened.
Yes.
The checks and balances should have been there Um, and I I guess from an old this is the thing about owners
There you just fire everybody and say well, we're moving on you can't fire the owner
Yeah, you guys you guys kind of talked me into letting you do that, but everyone hates us and hates you for doing it
So you're all fired. See you later. You're out. We're moving on. We'll get somebody else in here
And that like steve kurr was talking about that recently recently there's so much money all these owners are billionaires now yes
they don't care to fire the coach they have a million dollars care less
couldn't care less Monty Williams got paid like 50 million dollars by Detroit
he coached one season and they said you're just coaching contracts in the
history of the league yes and he's one year and the guy goes that's enough get
rid of him Wow who was the urban one year and the guy goes, that's enough. Get rid of him.
Wow.
Who was the urban?
Who was the guy who was enjoying himself at the?
Yeah.
Urban.
That was a Jackson.
Urban Meyer.
He got himself fired though.
That was really poor execution.
He was playing the piano at the back of a sports bar there.
Still one of the craziest stories.
But you think about it though. Some of those guys, like John Gruden was owed a lot bar there. Still one of the craziest stories. But you think about it though, some of those guys like John Gruden was owed a lot of money,
was he not?
Yeah.
Anyone that gets fired now is owed a lot of money.
And it's not...
You're right, the billionaires don't care.
They're just like, make it go away.
It's automatic.
Everyone gets their option picked up, everybody.
You know, and it's just, yeah, pick them up.
Yeah, go ahead now, fire that guy, go get somewhere else.
Like it's chump change.
Five million a year for billionaires is nothing.
They don't even think twice about it.
All right, I want to play this clip
because the Phoenix Suns, they're the Rangers of the NBA.
They're the Bruins of the NBA.
Like an absolute disaster where they have
this payroll that's crazy.
They got Katie, they got Devin Booker. You know, it's just been a mess. They don't have their first round pick. Like they have this payroll that's crazy. They got Katie, they got Devin Booker, you know,
it's just been a mess. They don't have their first round pick. Like, they have nothing. They're not
in the playoffs, not in the plan, and they don't have a first round pick. The only team in the
league that would check all three boxes. And after a disappointing game again last night, Devin Booker,
listen to this back and forth. I would love to know how you guys would handle this because I
actually think Booker handles it really well and must understand. This is kind of crazy
What's going on in the marketplace and we understand we sucked and we sucked the life out of this place
But this reporter goes at him and goes at him and goes at him
This is last night after the sons were officially eliminated from the playoffs
From a point of personal pride. how do you feel about this?
I don't feel good.
Is it embarrassing to you?
Yeah.
How embarrassing, you've played a lot of games like this this season.
Yeah.
And you haven't been able to correct it.
Correct.
Okay, and you say there are multiple reasons for it.
What's the top two or three?
Can't wait them. you say there are multiple reasons for it puts the top two or three
can't wait on
you know all of them hold their own values so
there's no winning habits
turnovers
turnovers that kind of stuff
this guy with like he had like a
the old uh... like i was like oh yeah he's not a the old like a farmer hat.
Oh yeah.
Are they not fair questions?
Totally.
Totally.
And I actually appreciate it because it's old school and you can hear the PR guy in
the back like that's enough.
Anyone else?
Last one.
Well, Booker didn't exactly make it any better, Brian.
He was like, he was standing there like I've got a party to go to and what the hell do
you think you're doing?
Which I could understand from him. He's like, look dude dude, who are you? Like, are you the owner of the
team or you could have the way he was phrasing the questions was making him a little bit
more pissed off too.
Well, that's what I'm saying. I actually appreciate in a way that Booker, I thought he kept his
cool. He didn't give him anything. But like that guy was like, are you embarrassed? Like
how embarrassed are you? You'd never got this right. But what did you do wrong?
Like turnovers?
Why didn't you mention turnovers?
Like he would have kept going and been like, that guy hated that team.
Dude, imagine a team with Kevin Durant and Booker on it that don't make the playoffs?
Don't even make the play in.
Not even, like the play in the NBA now, you have to whole renders to miss the play
like horrendous as a basketball operation
and they have the rant booker
uh... it's just a disaster but i i appreciate that old-school guy just
right in his face are you embarrassed
account there's two you
all why are you embarrassed why didn't you corrected you sucked all year
was it turnovers had to be turnovers
i got a couple of fifteen minutes but but booker it. You sucked all year. Was it turnovers? Had to be turnovers. That guy would have kept going for 15 minutes.
But Booker, he was short but he was poised because he could have easily just been like
dude, knock it off.
I was like a super fan that snuck in with a media badge he made on his computer and
he's like I gotta grill this guy. I'm sick of watching this guy.
That's exactly what it was. That guy had the overtotal on the wins losses this year and he absolutely despises everything to
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Kujo coming up in about 15 minutes his take on
Goalie fights we saw last night Bennington and Perry I would call it a fight necessarily
But Bennington wasn't happy and a lot of big
Scores last night the Philly Ranger game the Sharks Wow game was crazy even least half of four three
It could have been eight seven last night. Yeah. Yeah also
4-3 it could have been 8-7 last night. Yeah. Yeah also
Didn't Kujo get sent something from Budweiser that that Ovi did like 26 goalies that didn't allow a goal now Yeah, there was like one of them there was gold like Jerry sparks was on there like he had one game probably
Come on, come on. Come on Budweiser find Jerry Sparks
He's these odd. I looked at the list that I kind of chuckled because I was like
No, I think he's you know gone back home
But I I saw his name on there and oh we had like two or three shots on him in one game
Same type of thing as me. Well, we played one game against me. He got me like that's you know, I'm
I would have rather gotten beer from Budweiser instead of
Being on the highlight reel, but it is what it is.
It is what it is.
Very few goalies can say that, and I guess Kujo is one of them.
So we'll ask him if he can remember that game.
And I'm sure he would, right?
If it's Alex Ovechkin, and I don't know the exact stats, but yeah, Kujo's take on
that Stolar's game last night.
I know that Stolar's played well.
Like again, you give up three
But I thought he played pretty well. I made some big stops, especially in overtime
yeah, and it'll be interesting to see what happens this weekend because
Leaves halves on a Saturday night late in the season with both teams going to the playoffs is
That's gonna be electric and I don't think Demetov better be electric man
Yes, it will be Saturday night leaves halves in April. It's always electric
This isn't a Tuesday night against whoever well, it'll be buzzing
I'd like to get it off to play, but I don't get the impression like he's going to I think he's gonna make his debut on Monday
That's the word anyway. Yeah, and you're getting Montreal Montreal plays in Ottawa tomorrow
So if you're getting Montreal in a back-to-back too, so that's you know, it's advantageous for the the Leafs, right?
because the
Montreal plays in Ottawa Friday night in
You know, that's a big man Montreal beats Ottawa and reg. They're a point back
Like it's it's not over yet. Like as much toronto and tampa is not over autowa montreal isn't over
mt ralph beats autowa in regulation on friday
autowas in they have their acts but they're not guaranteed to be the first
wild card there's still a chance montreal can hop over
well there's four games left you're right like
autowa if they tie autowa has all the metrics to beat them but it's still
you're right like if it's just points straight out like if Ottawa loses for four in a row and
My show leapfrog of it'll be Toronto and Montreal may be in the first act way crazy
That will be a wild scene
Everyone's been prepping the Battle of Ontario forever and then out of nowhere
It's Montreal and if it is that would mean Montreal went on like an all-time heater
Montreal and if it is that would mean Montreal went on like an all-time heater. Dude, that is a heater man.
Yeah, like they got an eight point buffer.
Now the other teams have faltered, like Detroit, New York.
What do they need to get in?
Like do they need like, is there like a magic thing?
I think it's two more points and they're in because everyone's got less than five games
and Out West it looks like it's 96 and I think over here isn't it low
90s 89 or 90 89 90 yeah and if you couldn't get in in the east this year oh my god well that's it
like when auto like Pooley was telling us the reason Ottawa got the axe was because Detroit lost
to Montreal right which means they were 11 points up and Detroit had run out of time. The same thing
with all these teams. Like the most Detroit can get to is 89 points. So Montreal, they
need two more points and they're probably in already. None of those teams are going
to get eight more points the rest of the way. The way they've been playing.
No, they're in. They're all finished. Montreal's in.
They're all mathematically almost, like they're just eliminated in a game. That's basically
it. That's a bunch of them like the Rangers have only four left like
Columbus Islanders and what Detroit have five games
Yeah, so there's a chance Jersey has the least amount of points of the eight teams in the playoffs in the East
You know, yeah, they there and they're gonna get in because of the division
but that that division has been a disaster this year
you look at it to try
is ahead of everyone else in terms of just a lot of side like six of the top
nine teams in the east are all in the atlantic division i remember trying to
you'll get you guys to buy in that i thought five we're gonna make it from the
atlantic but then we couldn't decide it was going to come out the metro
because i was sure the rangers were going to make it we're like okay who's
going to drop out like all case maybe the island sure the Rangers were going to make it. We're like, okay, who's going to drop out?
Like, okay, it's maybe the Islanders, whatever.
And they did.
Rangers were an afterthought.
Like, it wasn't even like, yeah, they were in the President's Trophy last year.
Like why would they not be expected to be a playoff team?
And we were like, I was saying I could make a case for the Atlantic.
You know, you see some teams with some growth.
I thought it would be Detroit or whatever.
But then we were like, I clearly remember you, Hayes, you say, well, who's coming out in the Metro?
And I'm like, you're right. Like there's four teams that we could make a case for over there.
You Jersey, Carolina, Washington, Jersey went and got the goalie. It was like, that's it.
They're fine because they got the goalie. Well, Jack Hughes gets hurt. Top 50 Dougie
gets hurt. Like they're, you know, they've been in one, and the Rangers have just fallen off a cliff.
Yeah, disaster, man.
I had some dope send me a note going like, don't you know the analytics of playing goalies back to back?
Yes, it's well aware. Guess who plays back to back games too?
Connor Halabuck can play back to back games.
Like there are starters that play back to back games in the league. Our point
is there's a week left in the season.
There's no tomorrow.
There's a week left into the season. It's not like, this isn't November where you're
managing a goaltender's body. Sir Sterkin's going to be fine. Like he would be fine to
play in a back to back when you're fighting for your playoff life. That's the point that we were trying to make.
He's the leader.
He's the highest paid guy now moving.
They need him.
It's like, you've got to play.
I don't care about, well, in a back-to-back, your stats are worth... No, that's not the
point.
Statistically, it's not about the stats.
Go play.
We understand that.
Yeah, exactly.
That, well, whatever.
Anyway, final hour.
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