OverDrive - OverDrive - April 10, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 3 on OverDrive! Former NHL Goaltender Curtis Joseph joins to discuss landing on the Alex Ovechkin's non-goal list, Budweiser's King of Zero a...nd the Maple Leafs' playoffs viewpoint. TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun on Matthew Knies' future in Toronto, the interest in an offer sheet and Rick Tocchet's coaching tenure and Bryan hands out his FanDuel Best Bets.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, who invited climate action to the party? We did! Hey, I'm Shannon Burns. And I'm Sarah Christie. Together, we host the Earth Day Party Podcast. Where the guest list is full of climate experts sharing their advice on how we can protect our planet. Everything from avoiding microplastics to sustainable fashion to getting a prescription to spend time in nature. Plus, we hear from David Suzuki.
Starting point is 00:00:21 This is a party where everyone is invited. The Earth Day Party Podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Final hour overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score. Brian Hays, the old dog, Jeff O'Neil, Jamie Noodles, McClennan and the Jays are in a good spot to possibly sweep the Red Sox. And then they're in Baltimore for three starting tomorrow, back home on Monday with Alex Anthopoulos
Starting point is 00:00:52 and the Braves in town when Vladie will get the full press conference and hometown ovation. And that's going to be pretty exciting. And I would assume Anthopoulos will be here. Maybe we'll get them on We should get them on next week. They haven't had a great start though I can't think can't imagine Alex is overly ecstatic to talk about his club now He might have took the ice cream machine out of the clubhouse. Yeah, the end of the road I still feel like they'll be fine. Don't really it's very early, but it was ugly man They were all in seven at one point. Oh one ate anything to start the year the ice cream machine
Starting point is 00:01:25 I forgot about it. It was like yeah, the guys came up and said we want an ice cream machine. He was like yeah great Okay, now he's probably taking a bat to smash pieces Definitely is boys little report up the Masters Rory McIlroy just is taking an egg salad sandwich right now in his shorts There's no He borrowed one from Bobby Weeks And put it in his shorts an egg salad
Starting point is 00:01:58 Okay, just describe describe what he just did it was in a chunk here's what I fold over Describe what he just did it was it a chunk was there here's what I hold over 15 It's downwind everyone's hitting it over the green in two. So everyone's on the other side of the water and 15 if you're on the other side, it's tricky because it is so sloped and so downhill Moving towards the water if you don't want to chip it in the water Exactly, if you overcook your chip, it's gonna run out and you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna hit in the water. Exactly. If you overcook your chip, it's going to run out and you're going to hit it in the water. Cantley just did it. Cantley just tripled 15. He just took a triple because he put it in the water and had to re-chip. McElroy steps up. I believe after watching that and does it himself, he rolls one into
Starting point is 00:02:39 the water. Now he's out there. I don't even know. We're on the air, so I'm not sure what he's doing. Dude, he just guzzballed his other chip across and above the... He's gonna make seven on 15. So he's gonna drop at least two and maybe melt. He may end up even par after this round and that could be it for McElroy. It's sickening to say that but this is... He's putting for bogey, he's on 15 and he's putting for bogey right now and it's the greasiest like slickest putt you've ever putted in your life yeah
Starting point is 00:03:12 I mean I hopefully get it on the rails come home clean finish your round two under you're fine with that but guys have been hitting it over that green because they can't help themselves they have to take the water on they will not like leave yourself short and hit a little chip to putt and leave. Like that's the play. Yeah. And people are like, if you think, oh, he makes a double bogey, which he's going to do like McGinley was talking on the golf channel the other day, like winners. A lot of the times that little Paul McGinley, he'll be on fire tonight. Oh my God, would he be? I could see him at karaoke, like just getting a jig on.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Oh yeah. Just Irish music and him just rushed. Yeah. But what was he saying? Winners, not a lot of doubles, man. Like they might have one if they're lucky, but a lot of them have zero. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's Scheffler, man.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Like this is's there's nothing sexy or overly interesting about scottie shuffler no i do he walked around that golf course today like he was like c i was in through your mail mall yeah yeah captain shane jane bacon was on the call and and bacon's like he just walked up to the forty yawning there's people watching him he like he went he shot a sixty eight and bogey free. He had 14 pars and four birdies and just cruised around the place like it was nothing. That's the difference between him and everyone else.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It's not hyperbole. I get it. There's a lot of golf left, but that cat doesn't do what McElroy does. He doesn't do it. If he was in the same spot, he chipped 10 feet short, two-part lead with a par. Yeah, he would go all the one thing he would say, Hayes, is there's only one place that this thing is not going and it's not going in the water. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, we'll see what Rory ends up doing there. Yeah, he doubled so he's down.
Starting point is 00:05:02 He's still two under on the tournament, which is a good start But I love that that he was yawning though That's not the sign of like you you just don't know pulse just out there clubbing golf balls around never in any danger Everything in the right position never nothing like the guy just he's stalking Augusta National. It's incredible the way that he plays All right, Kujo coming up here in a moment What's okay if I give you the over under two under for McElroy? What do you think he ends up? Shooting the on 16 17 18. What does he get into the clubhouse at? Even you think he's going to over the final three holes now, and I think I think I think he's gonna make one coming in I think you'll I think you'll get it back to three to save it
Starting point is 00:05:46 I don't think he's gonna let this to completely derail. I hope so I hope I hope I'm pulling for him man, but yeah, I don't know. That's that one stings We got to show the guy with the hat we'll do it later But we talked to Bob Weeks a couple hours ago about his routine down there egg salad sandwiches. He's already had eight Dude eight egg salad. So if someone threw a dart at his butt in his jeans, it would just he would have plowed on the fairway Yeah, he would he is a hazard right now there should be firemen He is a hazard right now. There should be firemen surrounding him at all times. Anyway, we have a new record holder in terms of most goals scored in NHL history.
Starting point is 00:06:34 It feels like Ovi hasn't played in two months. They're playing again tonight for the first time since Sunday. I can only imagine what he's going to look like tonight after four days of partying like every time you see a picture of him he's out for dinner he's out somewhere else but uh... very few goalies have faced alex ovechkin and not given up at least a goal noodles unfortunately you cannot put your hand up for that right he got you in the one game you faced them but one guy who owns them
Starting point is 00:07:02 owns alex ovechkin is former Leaf longtime NHL goalie, friend of the show, here is Curtis Joseph. Kujo, you must wear that like a badge of honor. You're one of the very few guys on earth who can look at Ovi and say, I own you. Uh oh. Can we hear it? Sorry, pause there for a second. Can you hear us? Yeah, I got you. Yeah, yeah, it paused for a second. Can we hear it? Can you hear us? Sorry, I paused there for a second. Can you hear us? Yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, yeah, it paused for a second. Can you hear me? We got you, man. We got you. So what do you make of it? You own Alex Ovechkin. Go ahead. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I played the final minutes of a game in Toronto and then the overtime. So I couldn't remember when he was chasing the record. I couldn't remember how many games I played against him, but it literally is not even a period. So, but, you know, I get my name on a beer can, you know, it's pretty good, so. Yeah, it's not bad. Robbie made some saves, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:08:00 You know, I thought I saw that you at least made a couple saves. You know, in overtime back then, he would have been flying, so I'm sure you were able to at least stop him a few times. Maybe not, we've lost him. My ride off into the Sunset game, I think it was my second last game, and I remember getting into the game and kind of looking around, taking it all in, and they had a flurry of shots before overtime, in overtime.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And then he actually had a shootout attempt, the third one, and I stopped him. It's not a shot on goal, noodles, but we count it, right? Of course you do. Yeah, yeah, but it's not a shot on goal, but it's not a goal either for him. So you know, might say three shots on the can, really, and a W. I like that. I didn't know about the shootout. That's even better, man.
Starting point is 00:08:52 That's mano a mano. That's even Ovi. Right. Yeah, that would have been early in his career. I mean, you're a Canadian. All four of us are Canadians. I was saying this last week, Kujo, that I grew up, you don't even talk about Gretzky's record. It's a waste of time. No one catches it. No one's going
Starting point is 00:09:10 to catch it. Now he's done it. At any point throughout this run, did you have to stop yourself and say, I can't believe what I'm witnessing. This guy is actually going to do it. He's going to score more goals than Wayne Gretzky. Yeah and honestly Wayne Gretzky is a hero of mine. Obviously we follow him when we were teenagers and he's the great one and obviously all class all the time. So you never want to, I don't want to see his records be broken but a guy like Ovi, he's won me over over the years. I was always in the Sydney Crosby camp, but the way this guy celebrated his goals, I mean, I would look at kids and go, Hey, you see how Ovi celebrates goals? You celebrate like that.
Starting point is 00:09:56 It's a, it's a great thing that you can score on an NHL goalie in a game. So celebrate. And he did, and he did a great job and he was great for the game and winning a cup and the celebrations man he is I'm happy for him what a great player what a great ambassador for the game and man he deserves it that's for sure. Yeah he never slowed down man like his whole career this guy he scored 50 plus his rookie year and this year if he wasn't injured he would have scored 50 plus as a 39 year old. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And, you know, we've been discussing how he scores his goals. He's got that one spot at the top of the circle, offside, you know, on his offside where he just rips home goal after goal after goal. Noodles, you can speak to this. Kuja, we'll start with you. You know, for 20 years, guys like me, idiots like me are like, well, why don't you just stop it? Like, you can speak to this. Kujo, we'll start with you. For 20 years, guys like me, idiots like me are like, well, why don't you just stop it? It's coming. What about somebody take him away?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Right, exactly. How about a coach try to find out a way to stop this guy and it doesn't happen. I'm curious how you game plan for that. You know it's coming and you know if he gets it off, he's going to get you like is there anything more frustrating as a goalie Well noodles gonna test to this if you don't know he's over there that's shame on you And if you're getting over late the chances of him scoring are a lot better because there'll be lots of holes clearly If you can get over early and square you have a way better chance of it hitting you. Not to say you're gonna stop it, but certainly on
Starting point is 00:11:30 power plays, I know when we played against Jagger in the playoffs with Toronto, I made sure that Juskiewicz was up on Jagger. I said, hey, just don't let him shoot. Let everybody else shoot. I don't care, but don't let Jagger shoot. And then you frustrate the guy and hopefully he tries a little too hard Or he does things but it seemed to work on the aggregate mad at other guys on the team for shooting the puck But yeah, you got to know he's over there noodles will tell you if you can be there early and you can be there big I mean you have less holes and a bigger percentage to stop it Well, it's it's funny you say that too because I remember when I was a goalie coach in Calgary We did our prep and we were playing Washington and I was sitting with Kipras off and you know
Starting point is 00:12:09 We knew exactly where you know where he's gonna be shooting from what he likes to do He he doesn't just shoot like short side. He'll shoot what's open. That's the one thing he can bring it and he's got a powerful shot So, you know Kipra's like yeah, I can get there. I try and be square. And you played with Mika as well. Such a smart, cerebral guy. And he knew everything before you could even say it. But then Ovi got him that night, and we were sitting on the plane having a beer afterwards. And he's like, I was there.
Starting point is 00:12:40 He just beat me. Like, that was the other thing, too. I think there's a lot of gold-takers that are like, hey, I was there. I feel pretty good about my position. I was set. I was there he just beat me like that was the other thing too I think there's a lot of goal-takers that hey I was there I feel pretty good about my position I was it I was sad I was waiting he just overpowered me beat me you know over short side or far side and that's what Kipper said he goes hey it's good shot he beat me that was it. Kujo how difficult do you think it is like just in general playing in your own and nowadays with their I mean we all played in a time where it was like 3-1 in the third period there is
Starting point is 00:13:10 gonna be some lockdowns going on back there hooking holding physicality and you just see some chaos now like how much more difficult do you think that is for the goaltenders and defenders in front of them. The game has changed, that's for sure, and it's changed for the better and for the worse. I love seeing all the room and the guys show their skill off, but when I see a guy get one, two, three chances at it and then put the other rebound in, I'm like, wow, back in our day that guy would have been strangled after his first shot or not, but So there are some some different things. I I was talking about You know him scoring in the modern era
Starting point is 00:13:54 There's many factors to it. Like yeah, there's more time. There's less clutch and grab on him But the goalies are you know noodles you can you can attest to this the goalies are bigger and better than we are and there's less holes and the equipment for the goalies is stiffer lighter so they can move the big guys can get there but on the opposite side is that the sticks are better it's like I always use the analogy it's like if you put an aluminum bat in the into the MLB game you know what would that do? I remember when the sticks changed and everybody could shoot it a little harder. McCarthy, I think he was playing for Calgary, he beat me on a one-timer from the top of
Starting point is 00:14:34 the circle. I'm like, uh-oh, that changed the game. I couldn't catch up to it. I was like, okay. There's a lot of factors on the scale scale whether it's easier or harder to score but Ovi's done it over a long period of time so man he's good he's great he's the greatest yeah he holds the record now with Curtis Joseph where's your head out with the Leafs here there that was a big one last night they got a three-point buffer on Tampa four games to go and we're into the playoffs could be Battle of Ontario something you're very familiar with how cool would that be if
Starting point is 00:15:08 it does actually come to fruition Toronto Auto on the first round yeah now that I'm not playing I can say who I want to see as a matchup yeah I'd love to see the Battle of Ontario you know I think would be great it would be great for the fans in both cities I'm gunning for that I think would be great. It would be great for the fans in both cities I'm gunning for that. I think it'd be a good matchup for the Leafs the one thing I like better about this this team that in the past is Bigger defense and you know in the playoffs the refs put away the the whistle So I mean there's a lot more clutching grabbing and physicality. I think if it's possible, you know, Ahsa Matthews and Marner, Tavares are under the radar a little bit this year, I would say.
Starting point is 00:15:53 The other years past, I like that. And of course, our goaltending is, you know, 1A and 1B, whoever. They're both great. I like the goaltending this year more than any other years so those are all good things absolutely and uh... to my knowledge maybe stores i'd wonder stores a wall have been beaten by a veteran i'm sure probably both of them actually we could find out out but uh... you're one of the guys that wasn't and by the wise i was a really
Starting point is 00:16:21 cool story really cool pictures well uh... them sending you that to commemorate uh... never be in the bouts of that's good so congrats on that it's always great catching up with you could you will do it again real soon thank you for this yeah thanks for having on guys you don't success yet you to various kurtis joseph
Starting point is 00:16:40 uh... joining us here on overdrive is the best yeah and he has right there and he he would know the Battle of Ontario very very well He was in it like four times was it during the Battle of Ontario I was gonna ask him but I wanted I think we had it last time we had him on we asked him about it When did he go after Mick Magoo in Ottawa if he did that today? I'm telling you he had 20 games Oh, yeah, for sure, but I go over was that in the playoffs or was that just a regular season? Yeah, I believe so, man. He was bent out of shape when he took his helmet off and then slipped in the pocket.
Starting point is 00:17:13 He ran after Magoo and he fell down and took Magoo with him. He tripped him. He cut Magoo's feet out from underneath him and he went down. I didn't want to bring it up, but I think last time we had him on he told the story But it was like I kept thinking to myself that had to I thought it was about Ontario game. Yeah, I love Ontario playoffs and Cujo yeah, he was right in the middle of that whole battle man. So mad dookie said it's 2002 so yeah, so that would have been oh, too, yeah, that would have been the first round of oh two So funny, I think it was the first round. I think they play Philly that year in Ottawa than Carolina. I think it was
Starting point is 00:17:54 All right, we're gonna catch up here LeBrun later in the hour. There it is here. What happened though? What happened like it went is it what he called a goal and he thought it was interference You didn't have a helmet on no yeah like that you're right that's 20 games without even like looking at it well it's that Gerald diddick yeah Gerald diddick and the thing is Kujo doesn't slow down like he doesn't know a wheel and go man I should probably just relax here he's like i'm all in man i'm going to go on and he kept going to get up to cap snapping that went around the scrum if you have to have a shot at corey cross on the ice
Starting point is 00:18:35 according to us out there jerald did it yeah that's the only leaves uh... going on the run uh... right here coming up best bet still to come a little bit later in the hour McElroy part 16 so back on the rails he's on 17t two under on the day you know what's crazy is there's that Ludwig Oberg again
Starting point is 00:18:58 three under Bryson DeChambeau three under same thing they did last year man all on my squad I I know, I know. I got Scheffler though and I got Connors. I got Scheffler and Connors. Did you take Tyrell Hatton? No, nobody did. Not even a thought, I didn't even know he was in the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:15 However, I didn't check on the guys that I gave you guys either. Dude, Chris Kirk, you gave this guy Chris Kirk and I think he's, oh he did? He took a nine on one hole, I know that. Like Kirk, he was actually off to a really good start and then he absolutely. What about the other guy? Was it Hoagie or whatever?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah, Tom Hoagie. I don't even know where he is to be honest. I don't think it went well for Hoagie. I gave you two dots, sorry guys. Kirk's three over. You know who's three over is John Rahm. Rahm's out there. He may not make the cut again.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Dude, he was slashing it. We gotta come back and show John Rom. Rom's out there. He may not make the cut again. We gotta come back and show the hat. Come on. Yeah. Let's come back and we're gonna have a look at the hat. Yes. Okay, we'll do that and get to our best bet still to come. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. the best of our great nation, one song at a time. This is Justin Bieber. Hi, this is Terry Clark. We are Nickelback. Made in Canada on iHeartRadio.
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Starting point is 00:20:39 They've already won three in a row Gosman was so good last night Jeff Hoffman came in won three in a row. Gosman was so good last night. Jeff Hoffman came in, got them through the ninth, through the tenth, and the J's on the up winning last night. Their starting rotation's been outstanding. Best starting rotation ERA in the American League. It's been an up and down year.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I mean, they split with Baltimore, then they sweep the Nationals, then they get swept by the Mets, so now they might sweep the Red Sox. But eight and five is eight and five. Nationals then they get swept by the Mets and now they might sweep the Red Sox but Eight and five is eight and five chance to be nine and five this afternoon on your way to Baltimore tomorrow And John Schneider is going to join us on the show tomorrow afternoon Good if they can get to nine and five man big time big time and that's again with like Bichette Plattie Son Tondair you're still waiting for them to break out like it was power hitting Vladie's been good.. Vlad got the day off today. I think you know Schneider said with everything that's going on a little bit
Starting point is 00:21:30 overwhelming a little bit You know of excitement and stimulation give him the day off. I don't know if he's coming and pinched hit yet But he'll be back. I think he has he has pinched it. I was reading these grounds into a forced out. Okay Well, they're up to one, you know in the ninth or in the eighth inning So yeah, that was in the seventh. He did that but yeah, I mean in the end I If they can sweep here great, you got something heading into Baltimore, but I would like to see Vladdy You know, I don't know. It's weird you say put this behind you like it's not it wasn't contentious I don't think there was some weird things going on like him. It's negotiating, right?
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, you're right though. It never got ugly. It was like a Screw you contest publicly or anything like that guys. I always say there's positive and negative stress and this was probably a Combination of both it turned negative and then it was pause. It's just a lot to deal with. So take a day. You see a guy though sign a deal or a deal gets announced. Aiden Hill's deal got announced in Vegas. He got a shutout that night. I was waiting for Vladdy to have a two-dinger night and that type of stuff. He's had a couple of hits, but you're right. You're right. You're waiting for him to be like, all right.'re waiting for him to be like
Starting point is 00:22:45 all right thank you maybe this weekend maybe it's when they get home you know again they got the Braves in town on monday no days off here to start the year they're just playing and playing and playing for the most part they just had one i guess mid-week but a lot of games early in the year but a good start for the jays um mackaroy is still 200 I believe on 17. Is something funky going on out there? I'm not watching. Dude, he just blew his approach shot over the 17th and he's got the greasiest up and down coming up. I worry about this guy.
Starting point is 00:23:19 He just had another egg sandwich, man. Bobby Weeks. Bobby Weeks, he hit his shot and Bobby Weeks handed him an egg sandwich and said have another one we need the like we need some sort of like egg sandwich meter like yeah look at this guy you can buy any hat that says the Masters amen corner anything like whatever the names of the holes are like a zalia has a zalia hat anything you could probably get one that says Jack Nicklaus this guy got the one that said egg salad on it it is pretty funny like if you put that on the gram for his buddies to save check out the hat this cool hat. I just picked up No way, dude. No way. Do you buy the egg salad hat?
Starting point is 00:24:10 I can't believe they sell that but if they do Bob Weeks has got to have one of those. I put his Twitter account on that tweet and I said you better get one Yeah I will be so disappointed with Bob and everyone at TSN if he doesn't have an egg salad hat because that's his whole operation down there He eats exclusively Egg salad sandwiches. He pounded eight before he went off the air today. That's It's a dude if I had eight egg salad sandwiches
Starting point is 00:24:41 It is a yard sale. You would have that football bunged up in your stomach again. That's not good. I think that thing would be, that would be fumbled, dude. That would be a botched snap. He would not have an issue anymore, I don't think. No. Yeah, it's just an outrageous diet for a week at Augusta.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But yeah, that hat, I tell you, because the hats, like, oh, you've been there. It is the coolest hat scene in sports, man. There's green, white, blue, everything you could ever ask for, masters, just the logo, all these different cool things. They've got stuff that, I mean, if you're into buying, like when they say, hey, grab me something,
Starting point is 00:25:24 if you have a buddy that goes to Augustin doesn't grab you something It's a shame because they have the biggest selection of any sport These quarter zips golf shirts t-shirt and they have 50 of whatever size and color you want. Yeah, it's amazing 50 it's a man. I blacked out in there and that's not me. I've never done that in my life Like I'm not a guy. I'm not a tech guy. I'm not a car guy I like sports and playing golf. That's it I don't and then chicken parm that shit arms and hanging out with family and friends and that's it Like I don't live some crazy lifestyle now
Starting point is 00:25:58 I went in there and I blocked out and I was like I need two of those two of those one of those two of Those one of the like I left there with with five bags worth of stuff. I'm like, what did I just buy? I don't even know what I just got but I know it was a lot And I'll never forget it and I don't regret it for a second that it's already been a year since I went down this time Last year, but Justin Rose at 700 Cory Connors at 400 great star the Canadian. I think Nick Taylor was one over or even par, so he actually kind of kept it on the rails. If he can go low tomorrow he can make the cut. But yeah, it's a really cool opening day like it always is at Augusta National. Pierre LeBron will join us here in a moment. The Leafs coming off just a
Starting point is 00:26:40 massive win. That top line last night, they needed that. Like we talked about yesterday, they were awful in Florida, horrible in Florida. And I think the way it starts, you know, Matthew's puck retrieval hits Marner, boom, it's one nothing. Then it goes the opposite way. Marner puck retrieval into Nyes, boom, it's two nothing. You're like, here we go. Like it's go time now. And you know, the rest is history. They end up holding off and scoring a beauty and overtime Matthew Nyes with his second hat-trick of the year he's likely to hit 30 goals on the season might get to 60 points unbelievable
Starting point is 00:27:13 year unbelievable year and I would think if you're Austin Matthews you're thinking all right Mitch wouldn't mind this guy sticks around Nyes wouldn't mind this guy sticks around let's be a three-pack for the next five six seven eight years here's Pierre LeBrun our TSN hockey insider Pierre how would you handicap mini Jerry here on the fly that the Nice Matthews Marner line is a thing for at least the next four or five years well that's that's a sneaky way of saying what's happening with Marner. Come on now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And Knives. And Knives. And Knives. Knives is going to sign. I'm not worried about that. Although, CJ led our insider trading segment this evening with the little Knives item. Just talking about all this, you know, people around the league wondering if there'll be an offer sheet on Knives and CJ poured cold water on that for a number of reasons. One, because the Leafs feel confident that they
Starting point is 00:28:09 won't leave themselves open to that. But the most important reason that CJ says is he doesn't think Matthew Knight is interested in going down that road. He just wants to resign with the Leafs. He's not interested in even going the offer sheet route, which is, I'm sure, good to hear for Leaf fans. But he's certainly doing himself a lot of good with his season. Having a great year and I think for the Leafs you've got to figure out Marner, then you've got to figure out Knives, and then you've got to figure out Taveras in that order. That would be my order.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Well, in order to do that, then you would have to trust that that is actually accurate in the truth. I'm not suggesting that CJ is being inaccurate, but if you're going to sit on Knize and say, hey, listen, you've got to wait, then you're opening the door for other teams to kick tires. But that would be very relieving, I would think, if you're tree living. If Knize and companies say, we're good, we're not going anywhere, we're not doing anything, figure everything else out and come talk to us that that allows you to probably breathe a little bit easier yeah and that's not to say
Starting point is 00:29:13 that that they can't sign them as the first item after the season it's just that by then they will at least have an idea of where Marner is at you know what I mean like oh these things all? All these conversations have to happen in sequence here after the season is over. And the bottom line is I know that everyone is getting excited about offer sheets because the Blues pulled off the double whammy last summer. I'm not trying to say there won't be offer sheets, but I'm telling you when I talk to teams that everyone is saying, number one, the salary gap is going up in a major way for the first time in half a decade.
Starting point is 00:29:49 We're finally out of the pandemic black gap environment. So the mere fact that teams have more room to maneuver makes it harder to slap an offer sheet on someone. Number two, you know, the player has to be compliant in wanting to do this and I think people underestimate that little part of it. Like you know when Sebastian Alho did the opposite with Montreal, I think it went completely under the radar that he actually wanted to go through that exercise even though he knew Carolina would match it. You know what I mean? Like it might be other
Starting point is 00:30:23 markets where it's like dude, what do you just do? You just sign with that team so you can get what you want and stay with our team like it's not everyone that has The frame of mind to want to go through this and it as it turns out Dylan Holloway to Philip Broberg did because they do that Your orders had no money left for them I just don't think that many teams are gonna be stuck that way as I mentioned it was last summer Yeah, yeah, and it worked out beautifully. I mean for st. Louis. That's the amazing thing and like Holloway now though is week to week Yeah, I don't think he's gonna be I don't know what you're hearing on that Pierre But it's not good like talking to people in st. Louis that that's you know
Starting point is 00:31:00 They're talking they got to get through the first round type of thing Yeah, it's not short term and is all they would say right now but You know, they've got a lot of depth though. I mean, I mean they were pretty healthy until that happens. So You know and the interesting thing is to is to match up there and the West keeps changing. So Minnesota winning last night, they've got the tiebreaker on St. Louis and I love every day watching at the different scenarios. I mean, St. Louis and Minnesota are, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:34 are they getting Winnipeg in the first round or Vegas? Neither one's that appealing, but it's interesting every night seeing the matchups change. Not everything's as locked in as you might think. There's still a week to go here. Yeah, no kidding. Well, I mean, in terms of jockeying for position, there's still some things that could change. But Montreal basically punched a ticket last night thanks to the Rangers just continuing to melt. And no one saw this coming. I'm curious what we should
Starting point is 00:32:02 be bracing for. What do you think happens in New York with the Rangers? Yeah, that's a great question. I talked about it with Juno Red earlier today on our early insider trading with Brian because there isn't a lot of hard info coming out of New York right now, but when you talk to people around the league about what they think is going to happen there, a lot of people believe Peter Laballette will pay the price for This season. He's got a year left on his contract and so that wouldn't surprise me I mean, that's sort of the low hanging fruit. I would say
Starting point is 00:32:37 But I certainly hope that no one's looking at this season saying this was all about coaching I mean, this is way more deep rooted than that in my estimation like Someone said to me today you go all the way back to the way Markley Goudreau was forced out of New York last June and the way that upset a lot of guys in that dressing room and then that was disgusting. Right and then they almost basically did the same thing that Jacob Truba during the season except it ends up being a trade not a waiver thing but I think my you know my sense is that has seeped into
Starting point is 00:33:05 that room to some degree where a lot of guys are like, what's going on here? And I think there's been this malaise around that team all year that they haven't been able to shake. And I know that's a bit, that's an intangible, it's hard to put your finger on, but you got to come up with some kind of answer for a team that won the president's trophy a year ago and it's about to miss the playoffs I mean this is one of the biggest fall from grace is in a long time in the NHL. I agree I agree a hundred percent because I don't think we were talking about it in the last hour and I was saying well if there was going to be five from the Atlantic well who the heck was going to come out in the metro you know and I didn't even
Starting point is 00:33:44 we didn't think twice that the Rangers were going to be the team that's coming out. Conversely, Pierre, what do you make of Vancouver? You got Rick Tauke there who's lame duck, is that what it's called? Believe his deal's up at the end of this year or an option, correct? Yeah. I don't know if I would call it lame duck and I'll tell you why noodles. Lame duck to me, lame duck to me is a situation where you kind of feel bad for the coach and and it's like everyone knows he's 10 man walking etc. This has as much to do with what Rick Tauke wants I think. Yes. Yeah. Okay, like like his deal is up, there is an option on it.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Patrick Alvide made it very clear to me at the gym meetings, they're going to do everything they can to sign him to an extension. But then Rick Tauke, a couple weeks later, made it clear that he wants to wait until the year is over, sit down with Patrick Alvide and Jimmy Rutherford and just discuss the future here and what's what. Beyond that we're all speculating but you know I'll just point this out I'm not saying it's not impossible to talk to a signed extension it obviously is possible that he might but I think you have to at least say to yourself if the extension
Starting point is 00:35:01 has been there now for a few months, or the intention of the Canucks being willing to do that, and Berkdokin hasn't engaged, it has to give you the sense that he has pause for thought on whether or not he still wants to coach that team. And that's a big deal because, and again, I wanna be clear, maybe by the time he decompresses and talks with brother Vernon Alveen, he's like, you know what? Yeah, let's do this
Starting point is 00:35:25 I like it here that maybe but if he does there are a lot of players on that team that absolutely love playing for that guy and And he would be a loss like that would be a significant loss. I think for that team if he doesn't end up Extending well Pierre new Baze was talking about the one guy that spoke highly of Tocket. You got Quinn Hughes sitting there. How much do they want to make that guy happy? If he says, I like Rick Tocket, don't you just keep Rick Tocket?
Starting point is 00:35:55 That guy and his situation is coming up around the corner. That's going to be a dicey one. Yeah, so that's gonna be a dicey one. Yeah so that's right. On July 1st, 2026 so you know a year a year plus from now they'll be able to extend him one year out. He's got two more years on his deal. He's the number one priority by far of that organization. It's all about appeasing Queen Yous, making sure that he's in an environment and a setup that makes sense to him because they want to absolutely extend it forever when the time is right. And I'll tell you this, no one's told me this, this is just me reading between the leaves,
Starting point is 00:36:37 the tea leaves here. I think the captain's happiness is one of the reasons why they felt they had to trade JT Miller, not because Quinn Hughes had a problem with JT Miller. I don't think he did. But because the Miller-Elias Pedersen feud was so damaging to that dressing room and to that team's day-to-day existence that I think the organization's like, we got to clean this up. We got to do something because we can't have our players live through this, but especially our captain. I truly believe that. Well, I mean, at this point, it's over in Vancouver. They were mathematically eliminated last night. But Vancouver, New York, I mean, there's going to be a lot of eyes on both of those markets as we move forward. As we get closer to the playoffs, obviously people are going to be focused on the hockey,
Starting point is 00:37:32 but there's going to be 16 teams that missed the playoffs. Out of those two teams, or pushing those two teams aside, is there another one that you have your eyes on, Pierre, that will be particularly disturbed by what's happened or feel like they've got to change the most in the off season? Yes, Toronto will be losing the first round. I'm just kidding. Oh, I'm just kidding. 100% true though, Pierre.
Starting point is 00:37:52 What a jerk comment. Wow. Untold for, but accurate. No. Boston is a team I raised on Inside of trading tonight and the simple reason that we're sort of waiting to see what cam Neely and Charlie Jacobs decide on Don Sweeney and Which may be nothing maybe that obviously continues on as GM where he's been GM for 10 years Obviously done an amazing job, but the reason I brought it up is that
Starting point is 00:38:23 There's been no indication either way. He's entering the final year of his contract next season. So usually no matter what happened in your year that's like a summer where you talk about things right. And he's been there a long time. Obviously the season's been incredibly disappointing for LeBruns. Now I thought he had a really good trade deadline as far as the return on his mini teardown that he did. He was as busy as almost anyone as far as selling. It was the first time he had ever been a seller at the trade deadline in all his years as
Starting point is 00:38:51 Bruins Jam. But the bottom line is, I think there are people around the league curious to see does the marriage continue for an 11th year or is there a change there? And I don't know that change is a warrant, that he's a guy that's really well respected around the league, but it's Boston, and they have pretty high expectations there. Yep, they always have, and that's a market where they're not gonna let you off the hook for long, man.
Starting point is 00:39:18 They don't mess around in Boston. All right, Pierre, we'll leave it there. Enjoy your weekend, and we'll do it again soon. right on, on my way to Scotia Bank Pond, game two of the U14 GTHL finals. Let's go Leeside Flames. Yes, go Leeside. We love it. Take care of business tonight. We're going to try. All right, boys. All right, buddy. There's Pierre LeBrun, our TSN hockey insider. Yeah, the deadline for Boston. The GTHL? What's that. The GTHL plays at Scotia Bank? No, not at Scotia Bank, Pond. It's a small ring. Not a small ring, but it's up in North York.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Okay, good. I was like, really? They greased their way in there? Yeah, that would be impressive if somehow you found a way to get to Scotiabank for the GTL final But yeah, Boston they did have a pretty good deadline and listen the Leafs are happy with the Carlo deal I will say one of the luckier guys in the city based on wins and distractions And Scott lot. Yeah, it is a mess watching him play right now, man It is a mess and the other guy that's with him is Jahn Crook. Like, oh. They don't know what to do with him.
Starting point is 00:40:27 No, they don't have a clue. Between the two of them when they're on the ice, like, I would just pull them both aside and say, I'm at the point with you guys where only one of you guys are going to go in the lineup. So you can flip a coin to see who's going in tonight, and if you play good, you can stay, and if not, you're coming out and the other guy's going in. Because they're not pissing a drop Not a drop on either of them Well, the thing with lot is he's taking these penalties and they never get a kill
Starting point is 00:40:50 Never like every time he takes a penalty. It seems like they get scored on I never seen him play like I watched him in Philly and I'm like this guy's a good player man Least should be all over this guy Fast on the puck creating chances energy guy and just, yeah, I don't know man. I feel for the guy in a way because... So do I because he's such a great guy. Yeah. And it's a local story. And anyone in the game knows that, but it's got to get better. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:14 But you know what it is too guys though? This is a new environment for them here. And you can look around of guys who get traded at the deadline. some of them immediately settle in. And others, it's like, OK, they don't look like they're themselves. I'll give an example. Ottawa traded for that Zetterlin. He's a good player. Came 17. He's a 25-goal scorer.
Starting point is 00:41:36 He scored his first goal the other day, like the game I was calling. He had 32 shots on goal, just couldn't find it. And Lawton, I look at him like this is kind of all he it's this is his new environment like not everybody settles in where you know other guys it's like hey you know Carlo looks like he's settled in and you know he is what he is as a player Carlo you know exactly what you're gonna get but Lawton you're still trying to figure out like where does he fit in this lineup? We know where we thought he was going to fit but right now he's not there yet. Jamie
Starting point is 00:42:08 that's why I would try to shake up the The sequence that's been going on because it's like you're playing you're playing you're playing I would pull them both aside and say guys. This is so this is over Yeah, both veteran guys and this might be a shock to you But the idea of both of you two playing it's not happening Well, but okay, so I'll give it exam is Nick Robertson playing for you Is he in the lineup day game one? He and he was doing some bonkers things again last night Well, I'm just saying there's a high-wire act at times
Starting point is 00:42:38 But I will like he could skate like yes You move and he does he can score like yes does have that ability to score goals where the other two are not even close. So conventional wisdom would speak to a coach leaning on a lot nor a yarn crow because of their veteran status. Right. But that can change quickly if you don't have faith in those guys and you look at the other one and say, at least he may do something silly, but he also might break a game open for us.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Right. He might have a shot that I don't know. I don't feel great about any of them, but that's the break a game open for us. Right, he might have a shot that Betts fights through. I don't know, I don't feel great about any of them, but that's the concern. It's like you're in a scenario here where your third line to start the game or two nights ago was lotting Domi and Jarncrok. You know, two of them, and Domi, they're just, he's playing third line center. Like that's not going to change, I don't think. So
Starting point is 00:43:23 Dude, imagine that. We haven't brought that up enough. Like you spent a first. Yeah. So Domi didn't have to play third line center and that's a known fact that he ain't moving from there now. It seems that way. Well as of right now if Lawton can settle in. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:38 What's the camp situation? He's banged up and he's not moving past the fourth line anywhere No, but I'm saying like, you know, you got Lawton on the fourth line Like maybe camp comes in and pushes lot enough and they you know, like there's lots of maybe you see can play I'm just saying like yarn croak. I don't know where he fits Robertson You're right. You guys laid out a good case like you know what he can bring you also know Listen, we focus on pluses and we focus on negative of players that's really what it is but Lorenz is Lorenz is Lorenz we know what we're gonna get from him right yeah home burg is home burg, Borube loves him is probably gonna play again
Starting point is 00:44:18 offense isn't gonna be there he doesn't score or anything but spot duty but yeah but but so now you're looking at your you're right Like you're looking at the yarn croaks Lawton camp who else am I missing patch already? Yeah, like Robertson Robertson So those are kind of okay. Let's who's gonna fit who we playing you know is it if it's Ottawa that maybe the fits here if it's You know who gave me another Florida It's maybe it's here or whatever you know like you I think a lot of that still has to be sorted out in the next
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