OverDrive - OverDrive - April 11, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joins to discuss the Maple Leafs' playoff opponents, Matthew Knies' contract level and Connor... Hellebuyck's Hart Trophy race. They also discuss the Eastern Conference playoff contenders and the Masters Tournament top performers from Augusta National.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That just happened with me, Vashi Kapelos. Canada decides 2025. Stay informed with my exclusive iHeartRadio podcast, available Friday afternoon, straight through till election day and beyond. I'll have your weekly highlights and my unvarnished analysis of the campaign of a lifetime. The candidates, the quotes, the polls, and the momentum.
Starting point is 00:00:20 That just happened with Vashi Kapelos. Canada decides 2025. Fresh every Friday. Stream on your schedule with the free iHeartRadio app. Hour 2 Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score. Brian Hayes, Yodhar, Jeff O'Neil, Jamie Noodles, McClennan. We've got Mike Johnson coming up here in a few moments. Johnny's a Maple Leaf and Montreal Canadian alumni.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And he's been piercing a lot. Maybe he was with Ivan Demidov yesterday. Possible. So, I mean, just getting this straight, people got word that he was flying in and they just went to the airport like at arrivals, right? Yes. When you walk out at arrivals, so I mean, you guys know I'm at the airport like at at arrivals right when you walk out in arrivals so I mean you guys know I have the airport every day it seems like certainly has been the last two weeks when you come out at arrivals especially from international
Starting point is 00:01:13 like there's that one area you got to walk out and there's like a ramp and all that yeah that's what he was walking out the ramp and and there were Habs fans there in jerseys absolutely Absolutely what happened. You just nailed what happened. Demidov, the door's open, he walks through, he's got all these bags, hockey sticks, everything. And there are Montreal Canadian fans waiting for him when he arrives in Toronto. He got a police, I say police,
Starting point is 00:01:39 he got a police escort as well? Yeah, police escort for Demidov. I mean, send that bill to cobec and i get at the airport to federal but someone else should be paid for that i don't i don't believe the city of toronto should have anything to do with that that type of payment then after that still jeff moulson he's got to pay for that but uh... yeah what an arrival man and it doesn't sound like you play tomorrow
Starting point is 00:02:00 night the the plan is for him to make his debut on monday i believe it is again chicago i think get acclimated by no but put them in the line of tornado talking i think that the lease have some saturday night like it why can you play tomorrow night i i know a lot of people who are now i have said they want to be like one like they need swan gals there's no guarantees but they've they've got what is the buffer they get a seven point buffer or something like that six point buffer are there I mean are
Starting point is 00:02:29 they trying to chase like if you're the Habs are you trying to chase down Ottawa well you're in Ottawa tonight right if they beat Ottawa in regulation that's a good point you beat Ottawa regulation tonight and then they beat the Leafs tomorrow they're in that spot they're leapfrogging Ottawa the Battle of Ontario is not set in stone. It could be Toronto-Montreal, it could be Tampa-Montreal, Tampa-Ottawa, it could be any combination. It is. As well though, I mean that last spot gets what? Washington, correct? Yes, Washington won last night. I saw a prongs tweet this out and I wholeheartedly agree fan bases can do this we're allowed to do this on the outside to go hey who do we believe
Starting point is 00:03:10 is the best matchup I think when you're in the dressing room you got to be careful going now that team we want that team instead of this team I get it how can you not think that way if you're a human being in the room I know but but I always say careful what you wish for because I got you know like that not I'm not talking from Toronto what I'm saying is it you're Montreal do you believe that you match up better against Toronto or match up better against Washington you know what I mean like that's kind of or Tampa that type there's all these different scenarios you're just trying to win you're just trying these guys have not
Starting point is 00:03:43 been in the playoffs for a minute same thing with with Ottawa you're just trying to win you're just trying these guys have not been in the playoffs for a minute same thing with with Ottawa you're just trying to punch your ticket and be playing your best by that time I get it and you're right as as athletes as humans you are looking at different scenarios So you can get your head wrapped around it. Yes, but I hear what you're saying Yes, control your own destiny go out there and win. These guys are not that, I don't believe they're that different. They can say everything they want, we don't care, we're just you know, nothing, stop it. Like you're not looking at it if you're the Leafs and saying, oh man we might play Montreal instead of Florida. That would be good, you know, like they'll never
Starting point is 00:04:21 admit that publicly, but how could you not? If you're Austin Matthews and company look at that and say man if we can get a few points here this could break our way you know and again you'll never admit to it publicly but if you're a human being you have to look at it that way some guys are saying it internally and they don't want to jinx it whatever but come on man everyone's staring at the scoreboard the same way anyone else would uh... i agree i mean you have to you have to i decide look at i look at from a montreal standpoint we'll get johnny to weigh in and on to it would montreal prefer toronto or would they want
Starting point is 00:04:56 washington well i got a thing here he is joining us on the maple total hotline here's mike johnson we all know the answer fell name give us an answer if If you're Montreal and you can choose to play Toronto in the first round or Washington, who would you choose? I think everybody wants Toronto. It's just the reality. It is. What are they sure they shouldn't?
Starting point is 00:05:19 That's another question. But the fact is they all would. And I think the fact that it's Ottawa and Montreal that could be down there in wild card one wild card two the fact that are both Canadian teams just exacerbates an issue that's already there for the you know perception of leases that they're not as battle-hardened playoff tested resilient as other things even though Washington was terrible last year. It's not like Washington's been on a great run of playoff success since they won the
Starting point is 00:05:49 cup but I just think Toronto's got the baggage that is sort of top of mind for Canadian teams, Canadian team players and so I think both Ottawa and Montreal if they could say and be honest would both say Toronto. Johnny all you got to do is go through the history like if you're just going let's see what how much success they've had. You just keep going through the log. It's like, oh, they chucked away that series. They couldn't win that series.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It's like, you would be an idiot not to want them. An idiot. I just, you know what, and you make a great point, but Washington still, this is a different team that won the cup yes OV's there yes Tom Wilson's there who else is there that won that carlson so you know and and Logan Thompson I want Washington Charlie Langer it's our Washington badly if I'm right oh you're horned up for wash I would be over Tampa Florida Carolina
Starting point is 00:06:45 like absolutely if you if you if you had me right I'm not convinced Washington should be looked upon as that much more of a sure thing than Toronto either I mean I I'm not sure I buy that I mean Dylan Strom is your first line center in the playoffs let's see that a great year but let's see what he's got coming in the playoffs I mean that's asking a lot but a lot of these players man like chikrin in the plays got no play of experience was he look like in the playoffs rosma sandin what is he going to be in the
Starting point is 00:07:13 playoffs logan thompson i was going that's right i was going to but i was going out from the back end charlie lengren and logan thompson have four games each in the playoffs right so it's there's not a lot of experience there but there is pedigree and and we do have to give them the benefit of they've had a hell of a season in their awesome season but again near there's a lot of unproven show me i don't know how you feel about it johnny but that's kinda where i would i'd
Starting point is 00:07:38 think about with washington totally fair and i think that's reasonable i think the gold medal are legitimate question that they haven't kind of been through it. They have come so far so fast that you know it's a little surprising what they fold off this year. And so yeah can they back it up? How does that game translate? All those questions you just mentioned, totally reasonable. But I just think it's not for Canadian players. You know, I think the Toronto Maple Leafs and their playoff lack of success is just so well known that I still think if
Starting point is 00:08:15 you're to ask the players without doing a deep dive on how they match up in previous results and who's got confidence against what goalie I think they would just say Toronto because the perception around Toronto sort of pretty well-earned is that they haven't been the best version of themselves in the playoffs and it's not a one-off it's what are we at seven off eight nine nine years in a row they made the playoffs here so that that's why it would be and the only way and the players on Toronto notice there's one way and only one way to stop this conversation only one to go on the playoffs play well win around two rounds and then it goes away then then we will not have this conversation ever again for another seven years but until they
Starting point is 00:08:59 do that that's their reality that is the the reality. That is the reality and they listen things you have to break their way they're gonna have to be healthy and Oliver Ackman-Larson now is out tomorrow I would assume for the whole weekend I don't know how you don't play tomorrow but then plays Sunday in Carolina you got McCabe who's still out like that's two defensemen that won't play and they're gonna be likely with five defensemen that won't play and they're going to be likely with five defensemen tomorrow night. Health is going to be such a huge part of this and specifically I think that defense core that has changed the most. I mean you've got Morgan Riley as
Starting point is 00:09:36 a stalwart but really over the last three years I guess you've added McCabe, Tanev, Ekman-Larson and Carlo. Like that's probably the biggest difference. I know the goaltenders have turned over and all that, but the and we and they need to score big goals in big moments. All those things have been consistent for nine years. But I think what they've built on the defensive end of things has the chance to have a massive positive ripple effect presuming they're all healthy. That's a big presumptionption I guess at this point. They had the benefit of having them largely healthy most of the season.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And yet, you know, because when everyone is there it seems to work quite nicely. But once you even pull one guy out, the domino effect of putting Ekman-Larsen further up the line, bringing in Myers and it all gets much less effective pretty quickly if guys aren't capable of playing because of health. But, I mean, look at Florida. Is Matthew Kachuck going to be healthy? I mean, you hope so in your Florida, but do you know so?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Brady hasn't played in a couple weeks. Is he going to be healthy? This is an issue for all teams and important players will miss time. But you're right. Toronto, if you're a Leaf fan, if you're a Leaf management, you're thinking, okay, we built this team to be different. We designed it to play a certain kind of way and brought a certain kind of coach that could get them to play that way. Can we give our, can we see it? Like you don't want to get the playoffs and not be able to even see what you sort of built up
Starting point is 00:11:11 and how, if it works or not, because Jake McCabe can't play or Oliver Eckman-Larsen can't play or whatever it might be. So yeah, it's a big deal, but you know, these are the reality for teams, regular season or playoffs injuries or something I have to cope with and they won't be the only ones to do it. Johnny, you mentioned the lack of success and going to the Tampa game, watching that top line play the way they did
Starting point is 00:11:35 produce. They won them the hockey game. They are the difference in the hockey game. Like, what about that game? Like, what about that game do they need to bring to the playoffs? Is it just simply the contribution? Was it intensity? Was it just getting it done? Consists, like, do they need to do that more often? Like, what do they need to do in the playoffs? What needs to change about the way they play? So I think, oh, what it is that that line specifically is absolutely lethal
Starting point is 00:12:06 When they are able to turn pucks over Now if you saw in that game against Tampa that they forced turnovers or Tampa gave them turnovers Whatever you want to phrase it, right? Like Tampa was maybe a little loose Toronto did a good job forcing it and when they can get that they're incredible the night before the the game I did in Florida they gave them nothing they couldn't force it they couldn't get one and the game flowed along the board did on the dump in and everything else so if you're asking me sort of stylistically if they're playing a team where they can pressure enough to get turnovers because once they get
Starting point is 00:12:39 turnovers they're just so talented oh that they make it happen and the other part is like, you know, Matthew Nye's a different player. Like him in front of the net, he's a different, he brings a different element, and I think that might help them as well. But that would add to what I'd say is they got to find a way to create turnovers and not play the whole game off the wall, but a little bit in open ice. Johnny, I was going to go to Connor Hellebuck here, but I want to stick with Matthew Nyes
Starting point is 00:13:06 while we're on it. Have you had the conversations? Have you had people? I mean, I had to talk about it yesterday. Where are you at with Matthew Nyes as far as would you try and lock him up eight years? And find a number that fits for both sides? Would you bridge him? What do you see? I mean, I know you've been following his career,
Starting point is 00:13:28 you said he wasn't a huge scorer in college, you know, 15 goals last year, now he's going to be a 30-60 guy. Do you see him ever being a 40-80 guy? I mean, you know, what is the ceiling on him? And, you know, what would that number look like if we were just spitballing and getting crazy here? Yeah, so you're right, Noodle. I mean, full credit to him. He has been incredible. He has been better than I thought he would be at some things that I didn't think he would
Starting point is 00:13:56 be this good at, notably scoring goals and plays around the front of the net. I mean, you look at Noodle, the most goals he scored since he was 16 years old, 21. Like not in the USHL, not in college, not in the NHL, all of a sudden he's going to go for 30. Now again, I guess I'm hesitant to suggest he can go 40-40 because that's a big step given that he's already taken a massive step this year compared to years past. But I think the fact of the matter is he's shooting almost 20% this year which again I don't know if that's entirely sustainable but he's a very very good player so let's just say
Starting point is 00:14:32 this is this is this is what he is this is some version of this is what he is that is awesome that is incredible on an eight-year deal Loodles yeah that's got to be eight million dollars plus a year with the cap going where it is if you just think about the cap is four years from now the caps a hundred and whatever thirty million dollars you know eight million dollar players it's not that much so but the challenge that I think Toronto full face but not just Toronto we focus on Toronto but every team that has players like this is you, like why Johnson
Starting point is 00:15:07 just got a big long-term contract. If the players are bullish, they also know the cap's going up that much. If they want to bet on themselves for a three or four-year deal, get back to it when the number's already there, they probably can chase their number a little bit higher. I don't know if Nice wants that. If I'm Nice, I'm also appreciative of the fact that I don't know if Mitch Marner's back next year. Right. I don't know if John Sav that. If I'm Nice, I'm also appreciative of the fact that, I don't know if Mitch Marner's back next year. I don't know if John Savard is back next year. I'm gonna play with Austin Matthews, sure,
Starting point is 00:15:32 but am I guaranteed to have the same kind of run on the power play with five guys? Am I gonna have the same kind of run at success shooting 20%? It would be a pretty lucrative time to cash on a long-term deal if you're him, and you're not certain you're gonna go get 70 points next year because it's gonna be hard for him to do much better than this year that's a compliment to him he's been
Starting point is 00:15:52 fantastic my philosophy is anytime anyone offers you eight times eight or any seven times seven you are a moron not accepting it unless you're a super duper star unless you're a super tiny i don't care what you are if someone says i can throw that amount of cash in your pocket and you don't do it in your hoping for a little bit more down the road you are a moron end of story moron you could get hurt
Starting point is 00:16:17 there's all kinds of dumb things that can happen and you could have that stuffed in your pocket moronic behavior. Oh, I'll just play devil's advocate. Hang on, hang on. Go ahead, Johnny. I don't know your contractual history in your career, but did you ever fight over $250,000? I was getting nickel and dined.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Did you ever want four instead of three and a half? Did you ever want three instead of two, seven, five? And you fought today and got frustrated. Like it's all relative. It's all relative. And the thing is, oh, once you're good enough, and this is where like the league is the league, there's gonna be two more teams in the next two years,
Starting point is 00:16:58 he's gonna have a team that's gonna pay him seven, eight million dollars, even if he gets 20 goals and 45 points. The bottom line is seven times seven or eight times eight, you can see Andy Dufresne down by the water and you know you're gonna get there. You just play it out and you go down to the boat and fix it up.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You just find three for 18, six per, and you're gonna make nine for 5.45 and you're up at 61 and you're gonna be just fine. You know what I mean? Like, it's gonna happen, and you can get hurt, yes, but you can buy insurance to protect yourself in case you get hurt. These are, I hear you, and logically, everyone listening right now is throwing their phone
Starting point is 00:17:36 at my voice saying, shut the, because it's so much money. But like, you know how it is he talked to the agents like listen you know a million dollars a year like that's not insignificant Johnny same people were saying that to Hayes when he quit on Rory McIlroy rookie mistake exactly you know what'll happen you know what'll happen by Sunday Hayes is gonna have a tweet because Rory might go south. He might Greg Norman I had you I had some stuff planned after last night. I was coming in with heat on
Starting point is 00:18:17 Meltdowns on Thursday. I was gonna bring up the shark that ironically that's going to bring up the shark that ironically that's the only way we're going to get a shark in hoodies with Rory's face on it with a straw hat that's right Rory's face on the shark hat behind 15 green yesterday that was the image of the tournament and then the guy shoots six under today and I hope he pulls it off it'd be incredible story but you know this is it now now you played yourself into the weekend where you're in contention you got to close you're not going to get a better opportunity than this if you're if you're McElroy Well, didn't have a better opportunity in 2011 when he was leading by like four. Yes, but you're not you can't go back in time
Starting point is 00:18:54 I mean, that's the thing 14 years ago is 14 years ago He's been he's been in a really good spot before it hasn't gone well for him exactly in particular was gruesome That was very gruesome and let's hope that does not happen again no we collectively as a show decided to announce at four o'clock that Connor Hellebuck won the heart trophy last night oh you want to jump on our bandwagon or you gonna push back I mean unanimous decision strong but I I get it like you don't even you don't have to convince you that like leading point getters is going to get 125 points. Neither of the top two guys are going to get 50 goals.
Starting point is 00:19:31 The leading goal scorer, the guy that I probably would have given it to, had he played the entire season, would have been dry saddle, but he's going to miss 10 games and not win they aren't Ross and only have only 53, 54 goals. Meanwhile, you got Hellebuck, backboard of the best team in the league, a team that's good, but they're not like, they're not the Red Wings of 97. They're good, but they're not Hall of Famers everywhere.
Starting point is 00:19:54 He leads the league in wins, safe percentage, goals against shutouts. I think this is the kind of year that is special enough, especially relative to the field, that I'm okay with that. I think he'll be a finalist I think he'll have to just get over the idea that people don't love voting for goalies but on merit you can it's not a hard case to make. Yeah I think best player best team the fact that he plays as many games as he does I think should hold value I think compared
Starting point is 00:20:21 to your position like you mentioned and it's accurate Dry Sutt subtle scored more goals than anyone else well look what this guy does like this guy's gonna start so many games more games than anybody he's got more shutouts than 27 teams in the league he's got more shut out shutouts on his own his stats are off the charts they expected this expected that and he's done it all year like they started 15 and one, and they all played, and they were scoring a million goals. Remember the goals they were scoring back then? And Eric Palmer didn't win a game for like eight weeks.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Right. It's all- Like the backup, when he played, it's not like he went on a 10 and one run. It's all, everything you look at strengthens his case. The only thing that does it is that he's a goalie, and whatever you value that in when it comes to the heart That's if he doesn't win it this year then just take then make that announcement goalies can't be nominated That would be my stance just take them out and it's over and they're from there. I vote on it
Starting point is 00:21:15 I just got my ballot or whatever in the email like literally half an hour ago It just I think dry subtle would have had it out right now hell it out. Fill it out right now. Hell of a book. I've got to go through and you've got to put some time into this. What time? What time? Come on. You're not asking the selkie here. It's CC it. Send it to me and Hayes and we'll have it done in ten minutes. Just link us in on the email chain. We'll take it from there. I'll take a lot of time. I go through analytics. I go through everything. Dude, put up a Steve Dryden whiteboard behind you and we'll just fill look at our dollar will take a lot of their i go through analytics i go through every you know that is the dried whiteboard behind you will just fill in the names you send me an email and you do that on the hit
Starting point is 00:21:51 him and there's plenty of time i'll come into studio let's do a whiteboard next week done and lay out some depth charts and go what does this look like who's our heart who's there but i don't know how to do that i think you gotta use instinct and you gotta use thoughts and feel and you just say that guys also started showing tangible award that's what i don't know what they saw this out to say to yourself i'm here as an expert who was the best guy
Starting point is 00:22:20 and it's connor hellebuck this year what some people might think it's kucherov some people might think it's dry side or some people might think it's Connor Hellebuck this year. Some people might think it's Kuturov. Some people might think it's Dry Sido Some people might think it's McKinnon, but you just put down who you think was the best guy people start turning into They start looking into stick turnovers and zone entries. It's crazy But you have to look at it all Johnny help me out here. You have to look at it all. Johnny, help me out here. You have to look. If it's close. You have to. Oh yeah, you wanna look at zone entries for the heart trophy?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Are you high, bro? You can't do that. I would like to look at, I would like to look at possession numbers, something defensive. If you're gonna compare McKinnon and Kuturov, their numbers are very similar. Very, very similar.
Starting point is 00:23:00 So like, you gotta dig deeper and say, well, they both have, you know, one guy's got 36 goals, one guy got 42. They both have 122 points. They both have both the same number of power But you got to go deeper. So yes, but but when it's a goalie versus a positional player It's sort of different because you like that. I'm not deep you go at some point. You got to be like, okay I value this more and you can't really compare
Starting point is 00:23:26 them because it's apples to oranges. Right. I think it's a great exercise to go through and I think it would be a lot tougher if Dry Cytil was playing down the stretch, if he did miss 10, 12, whatever it's going to be. Because apparently he's skating, I think Edmonton's being overly cautious with all of them as they should be you know we were joking last hour like I heard from people at Edmonton that McDavid was ready a week before he played but it was like you're you're not you're gonna be 110% because he was shot out of a cannon the other night in St. Louis like
Starting point is 00:24:01 he was he was I think he was 100 noodle like where do you think like you got 90 For now 93 he's like seven points at four games I mean maybe that'd be interesting the hundred point. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's true They played San Jose tonight and I I think he might have himself a game Like I just feel like he he his interview after the game the other night like he did he had three assists And he was he seemed still a little Bit like mad let he miss he was like I'm working on the timing and stuff because I was telling the guys yesterday Watching it. He was ahead of the play in the first period. He was at the far blue line
Starting point is 00:24:36 He was moving so fast and the D couldn't find the puck for him But it was it'll be interesting to see you're right a hundred might have been in the back of his mind going Hey, I need to do this. That's like a legacy play as well, right? Yeah, you started those markers You know like the most under point season right you start reading that most under point season the guys don't have that like Somebody's pull up OB's pick like OB doesn't have that many hundred point seasons even Sid Doesn't have that because they don't play all the games But they don't have that many hundred point seasons like four, five, six, like not that many for all-time great players and you know Conor's had four or five
Starting point is 00:25:14 himself like I don't know. I don't know you know I think one of those things that he's probably not thinking about but he might be aware of. Well why wouldn't you man? I mean it's yes it's an arbitrary number but it's an important one in sports you know we've just done it with Sid and you got to be be aware of well why wouldn't you man i mean it's yes it's an arbitrary number but it's an important sports you know we've just done it was sitting you gotta be realistic in terms of what you can catch you know it's a bad feels like a minor miracle of etching kagatsky
Starting point is 00:25:35 no one's catch i don't think anyone's catching gritsky's point record are she now i hear you know but i thought that the math with mcdavid that if he plays another 12 years and averages 100 points or something, then you can get up and maybe get close to it. But then you're looking at what Sid just achieved. Point per game for 20 years. What else can you do as a player
Starting point is 00:25:57 where you hit a mark that is yours? You can take ownership of a record, and I would have to believe that's something that would be important just like I'm sure Dry Settle looked at it and said I'm not ending the season at 48 goals or 49 goals like I'm getting back and I'm scoring 50 and he did that now he doesn't have to play again if he doesn't want to until game one of the playoffs. I think all and all those players are all driven by team success that's very true but
Starting point is 00:26:24 you don't become great without an ego without awareness about the desire to be great individually to it's like a healthy thing that pushes the great players they want to be individually great they're all they know all these numbers a vietnam and you're right that they care about all as they should
Starting point is 00:26:40 uh... all right johnny well we're gonna help noodles out here i I think the top spots in all these categories. So an entries. Well, it's for me, it's Hellebuck. Carberry probably Jack Adams, right? McCarr's got I think the Norris Hellebuck's got the Vesna. Hudson's got the the rookie of the year. Yeah. So what else is there? I mean, just pack, just send it out tonight. Salky All- teams like this uh... there's always an interesting one because i've been injured in the uncle ricky suzuki yeah uh... he's i've got a very good all-star center three selections right wing seat three
Starting point is 00:27:15 you know three selections for any all rookie team this all you make the like the nl first team all-star noodles when steve any games next week noodles cuz me and i to do the awards yeah okay we'll run it through for you we'll take it over the award show i'm not here because we we will have it done with my help here uh... i said the correct manner in top right now missouri that lady being that that's the other one i always struggle with the email one and let jp do that well and i'm not to jp here i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i penalties you get the lady being is like a consolation prize as a guy that has a zillion points with little penalties and he didn't come to do i had a heart
Starting point is 00:28:08 nominate the high scoring guy who doesn't win anything else that is a dump in the world just get it one year that's it i think that you start i think he might have a picture of both every year yeah he does you're right that he'd be okay is not i don't think this is your me is not put up his the greatest numbers but well i don't know i'd like to know that i was told begin and pick like jacob slavin defendants middle-class i'd like to tell you i was trying to look at
Starting point is 00:28:34 like my metrics is our guy i was i always try to look at guys who play at the especially defenseman to play a ton of minutes with no penalty minutes and Slaven always fits that bill right like that guy plays well let's say 25 minutes a night good player you know produces points but also has like eight penalty minutes all year which is tough to do as a defenseman okay you know that's where I look but then I like professional voter doodles and none of us nobody else is that's why you're the guy there and i think i ever there's a little personal surprise johnny i'm sure you're on that list to
Starting point is 00:29:09 that i don't think i know i'm not with okra and i thought that i was just a little bit of surprise johnny he's not on the list of rice johnny dot on there is but all we know i think you know the balance is that i'm nowhere close to the i know I'm not close. I'll never be involved in anything to do with this league. I believe Oh could and should be on it, but they've probably watched this show and go, this guy has fired people. Like, how many times Oh say like, that's a fireball offense. And it's like, you know, I was asked, somebody who's very highly respected called me and said, we're looking for some
Starting point is 00:29:46 voters about four years into my broadcasting career. And I said, I'd be honored. I'll take it very seriously. I hung up the phone and that person never called me back once. I loved it. They were dead serious too. It's like to say i really like to have a good welcome addition i'd never heard back from that that what happened and i'm curious and i think that was a sign of being sarcastic
Starting point is 00:30:14 yet or or you forgot to hang up the phone afterwards and he kept listening and god knows what you're on to the piece like that is not the voter that i want to be associated with there is a, that is not a voter that I wanna be associated with. There is a chance that happens. Very good chance. All right, Johnny, good stuff, pal. Enjoy your weekend.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Have a good weekend. There he is. Mike Johnson joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. Drive the built-in Canada fuel-efficient, fun to drive Toyota RAV4, gas or hybrid models available. Visit mapletoyota.com. Bernie Langer man it's
Starting point is 00:30:46 tough scene on 18 like he he was right there to get up and down he lived out and he bogeyed to go to plus three the cut line looks like it's going to be two over um and freddy couples is right there too he's three over right now i think on 17 he just missed a birdie putt so he's got a birdie 18 to get into the weekend or couples and longer will not be around but it looks like Mickelson is going to make the cut yeah he's playing pretty well and he's out there and doing his thing JT's slapping it around like he always does it in gus there's some Gus coming there's some weirdo golf shots going on like guys are blowing at 20 or like your boy Bobby Mack aka the worst-dressed golfer on time i know is hit one brutal twenty five yards right of sixteen duties cut no shot is that
Starting point is 00:31:29 the one i brought up now you didn't bring up yet that i think you did bring up by the time you're right on the canadian open your lefty right that's right that's right that was that was from my buddy bob you know i was like he's gonna win yeah i like them too many places played as he hasn't been in the field a couple years but he played it well in the past and he's been a. Yeah, I liked him too many plays that he's played this He hasn't been in the field in a couple years But he played it well in the past and he's been a stud lately He's won big tournaments with big fields Canadian Open Scottish Open and he's been a dud today Yeah, he's not gonna make the cut and his gear is wild man
Starting point is 00:31:56 He'll wear a black pant and a blue shirt with flowers on it the hat that six years old It's a crazy vibe. He's got but've only got two different outfits it's one of the other the other ones worse in many of the decision split plots uh... it's almost like he's not on the mailing list for nike and any clothing and it's like screw it man i'm not what i'm wearing
Starting point is 00:32:21 and he's the guy i arranged and he's like, are you seriously? Are you jamming me up? I haven't got a shirt in three years. Yeah, he moved and they have forgotten to send him. I'm telling you, that outfit you just described and then he's got a white pant with a brutal blue shirt and that's all he wears. I could pick the guy out on six fairways over I'm like that's Bobby Mann.
Starting point is 00:32:51 It's very accurate man. It is very very accurate. Alright what do we have here? We've got Dear Hazy B coming up in about an hour. We may revisit our chat with John Schneider as well. We'll get to our best pets coming up. Oh, we are revisiting. Yes, we are. Don't even toy with people. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All new, all Canadian.
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Starting point is 00:33:40 Made in Canada, played in Canada, on the free iHeartRadio app and at iHeartRadio.ca It's gonna get loud Melodin Friday is brought to you by Boston Pizza Canada's favorite sports bar Enjoy a $15 lunch at BP where you get an entree, a side and a drink and you'll get it all in 20 minutes or less A fast lunch doesn't have to be fast food. See you for a $15 fast lunch at your local Boston pizza. The Jays rained out tonight. So haven't seen how they're gonna reschedule the games. I don't know if they're doing a double header
Starting point is 00:34:15 this weekend or not. Okay, July 29th you said, Dougie? Okay, so July 29th they'll have a double header down there in Baltimore, but off today. Why do they make that decision? Like if it's nice tomorrow, just rip have a doubleheader down there in Baltimore, but off today. Why do they make that decision? Like if it's nice tomorrow, just rip off a doubleheader. Yeah, I'm not... I guess TV...
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah, I think there's probably complications, I'm sure, with that to an extent. I'm not sure. I'm not really sure what the answer is as to why they can't turn that around quickly. They do do that at some points, but I guess it's so early in the year they're not that worried either. They're like we'll be back here in July we'll just do it at that point. So yeah the Jays are not playing tonight. We're tracking the Masters. Corey Connors is on the fairway on 18T or on the 18th hole and he's he's six under for the tournament and it's just been an incredible day down there. Justin Rose we haven't mentioned him he did shoot one under today he's eight under for the tournament he He's still in the lead, which is
Starting point is 00:35:06 incredible. DeChambeau's at seven under. McElroy was six under today, six under for the tournament. Conor's six under. Lowry's five under. He's in the clubhouse. Scheffler's still out there, five under. He's on 14. So it's just, it's stacked, man. It's a stacked leaderboard. It's gonna be a great, great weekend. Cory's got to get it to the house and then it's like, then you can take your career to the next level, because you are gonna be amongst a leaderboard that is loaded with superstars of the game, guys that are picking off majors at will and dominating golf. So if there's some way that you can find a way to get it done with that leaderboard,
Starting point is 00:35:47 you see the kind of love that Mike, in like adoration that Mike, in the celebrity that Mike Weir has, you could be the next guy in line. Well, the way it sets up right now, Rosen to Schaumburg will be the last pairing. Conners will have McElroy in the penultimate pairing if he gets in with a par or better on the 18th year. So unless someone unless Schaeffler takes off down the stretch or day and jams that up and leapfrogs them if he's into the clubhouse at 600 where McElroy is right now he will be paired with McElroy tomorrow a Saturday at Augusta which I think he'll be comfortable with because he does that every year at the RBC Canadian Open.
Starting point is 00:36:26 They generally play McElroy with Connors and whoever the third guy is. Next year it'll probably be Robert McIntyre. Might be Bob McIntyre, Rory McElroy and Corey Connors, but Connors has played with McElroy a bunch. Not at this stage necessarily, but still that's big time man you're out there second to last with McElroy teeing off at like 224 on a Saturday. Reach in to find something different man. That's because that's what it's going to take.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Like you can't kind of feel your way around the course the next 48 hours. No. You just got to go out there and say I hit the ball as good as I just have to go out there and make it. I got to shoot 67. That's right. seven to try to win this yeah you gotta exactly you're gonna have to be probably ten under going into sunday you know to have a chance to win it you can't shoot seventy four tomorrow
Starting point is 00:37:14 and then all shots out you're done you gotta go under part you know shephers gonna do it you know macaroy probably two of the shambo shephler or macaroy are gonna be in a very good position to pounce on Sunday So you got to keep up with those guys? Yeah, so anyway, we're still tracking what's going on down there, and I've got a couple mini Jerry's I meant to get to the other day. I figured I'd I'd rifle a couple at you guys Okay, because now it's not official yet, but the Leafs are in Ottawa's in and we montreal's they're basically in right they got a big buffer on columbus uh... the other new york teams they're done so they're basically in many jerry's on the least the sense in the
Starting point is 00:37:54 halves all making the playoffs next the least the habs the sense all making the playoffs next season yes? Yes, doubling down on what they just did this year. I'm low on it because I think that just because you made it one year, it's just like you often refer to the 40 goal scorers, Hayes. Like, you're not a 40 goal man if you do it once. Example me, I only did it once. That didn't make me a 40 goal man man Just because you make the playoffs once it doesn't mean you're a perennial playoff team. You have to have
Starting point is 00:38:31 Like the the Leafs qualifying for the playoffs or a playoff team. They do it every year They get a hunch points, but I think a team could have a step back next year I don't know which one it would be and I'm pretty much referring to roster wise not sure yet with Toronto but I'm pretty much referring to Ottawa or Montreal they could have a step back setback. What's your jerry's what's your mini jerry? All three of them making 20 percent. Oh wow I'm the other I'm high on, I'm 80%. And the reason being is because Ottawa's been in this build. So I think if you, if you, if they fail in the first round or whatever, they're going to readjust and go, okay, what do we need to add to this group?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Montreal is going to have flexibility to add to their group. So I think this year is an outlier but I think realistically they were building for next season. So you get a taste of it. You're right, oh they could have a step back. Montembo doesn't play as well or you know some of their bad start injuries. But I also think that this is a team that now you see Suzuki is pushed through, Caulfield is pushed through, Slavkowski is pushed through. They're going to have this Damodov kid. They're going to add, Montreal's got some young players coming, Logan Mayhew.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I think they're going to continue to add, which will push their total up. So I think all three of those teams will be playoff teams next year because I think Boston's gonna look for a reset but I don't know if it'll be enough like you know and and and other teams coming down I don't know if Detroit will get that next level. I could see all three of those teams being playoff teams next year okay based on some flexibility to do stuff in the offseason. I'm gonna say 40% because look at this year where no one saw the Rangers doing that. That would be the role the Leafs would play next year.
Starting point is 00:40:32 The Leafs would, that would be their role, right? Is what happened, all hell broke loose, everything went against them and they missed. That would be shocking, just like it is shocking that the Rangers are going through this. Now, with that said, we don't know what's's gonna happen with Marner, Tavares, etc. Ottawa I think is building and has kind of established who they are this year pretty consistently throughout the year. Montreal has caught lightning in a bottle. It's been an incredible story but they've won six in a row and the other teams have cratered and I think Montreal is still gonna have
Starting point is 00:41:02 to prove who they are next year. Like they're gonna get in with like 92 points, 94 points. Good year, they've deserved it, they've earned it. It's been incredible. But what are you gonna do next year? What is Montembeau going to be? What is Lane Hudson gonna be in year two? Does Demidov hit the ground running?
Starting point is 00:41:21 I don't know, you know, are they in a position to continue to sign guys like you said? I don't know. I just think it's asking a lot for a team. This is surprising for me. I know we're in the storm and they've done it. I'm still very surprised they made the playoffs. I didn't think they would this year. I am too, but I just also feel like you're going to have some guys come off the books and you can continue to add to it That's that's where that's my biggest thing is this team as it's constructed this year I agree like I think Jamie and I don't that's where I don't think you can put any kind of guarantee on next year when you catch lightning in a bottle And have everything go swimmingly. I don't know if you can put any guarantee on that next year Yeah, you're right and it's fair to, I'm just saying that I think they will have flexibility to make
Starting point is 00:42:09 their team better next year. They will. Like you've got Dvorak and Armia coming off the books. Doc is going to be back. You've got as Linay available or is he a US player? He's got one more year left. One more year. Yeah, Linay's got another year.
Starting point is 00:42:23 You're looking at, I think there might be an opportunity to use some of that money to go big game hunting. Yeah. Add another top player or guy who can play in the top six. So you're right. Again, nothing is guaranteed. I don't disagree with what you're saying, Hayes. I look at these teams that have pushed through and I don't know if they they would take a state everybody's gonna take a step back with injuries but
Starting point is 00:42:48 I'm talking the way their rosters are constructed yeah I think there's opportunity to stay there okay that was well listen it's a cool ride man the idea having all three Eastern Canadian teams in the playoffs first time in a long time we've seen that yeah so you know the fact that we're here you don't want to put the car before the horse. Let's play it out, see what happens. All right. So we've got Graham DeLette coming up from Augusta in about 20 minutes. Dear Hazy B's still to come, our best buds still to come. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050N on the TSN app. Hey, who invited climate action to the party? We did.
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Starting point is 00:44:16 deadline for the nine million dollar grand prize a stunning seven thousand square foot oakville show home plus a half a million dollars cash buyer tickets tickets now at princessmargaretlotto.com. Dear Hayes, you be coming up. Best bet still to come. Graham DeLette from Augusta. Connors just part 18. That was big, man. I was a little shaky three-footer that he just hit to get into the clubhouse at six unders. So he's four under yesterday, two under today, six under for the tournament. Rose is in the lead at 800 to Shambos at seven McElroy and Connors both in the clubhouse at six under Scheffler is chugging though man he's coming for these guys he's still out there on the course on 30 at 14 is massive yes you've got
Starting point is 00:44:57 15 right after he's gonna be floating a four iron into it yeah and guys are going out at 15 today but it's getting. And guys are going at 15 today. But it's getting windy. Some guys are hitting the water coming down the stretch here. So he chipped in for birdie on 12-2 off the back. It was sickening. His ball was so far, it was in a guy's backyard on Augusta Street, and it hit that hill and rolled back down and he chipped it in. Yeah, he's got things cooking for him, man.
Starting point is 00:45:26 So he's still out there at 6 Under Hat and still out there at 6 Under. Jason Day is 5 Under. He's still on the course as well. So there's still a lot of action out there, man. It's been an unbelievable day, an unbelievable Friday down there. Patrick Reed, Morikawa's 3 Under, he's still out there. Shofley's at 2 Under, he's in. Cheating Patty Reed's 3 Under? That's gonna say it. Patty Reid is three under man. Every time I hear that name I laugh.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Like it's just this guy. He's got a golf ball in his pocket with a hole in it. Drops it down. Oh found it. Never mind. We're good. No cameras no cameras right okay that's the he loves Augusta cuz no one's tracking them with their phones too right imagine what he's done deep in those bushes he's probably done some funny stuff in there well Patty Reed but he's listen that guy plays this course so well every single year yeah he does like every year you got to give him credit man he is a horse for that course like there's no other way to put it. But almost every big name you'd want into the weekend is more or less into the weekend. Like it is really... Capco took an eight on 18 to miss the cut.
Starting point is 00:46:40 No way! He bogeyed 17 and he hit a quad on 18. He hit the tree off the tee. I I'm working on a theory that he said screw it man. I'd rather not be here on a weekend like that's I Don't know like he's he's a quads a lot for a guy that good Yeah, yeah, he hit the tree off the tee and then it squirted back I think he had to retee and then he just started doing some crazy things Yeah, he played the last two holes five over par to miss the cut Yeah, which is just just crazy for a guy like that So cap goes out DJ's out but more on this into the final hour and Graham DeLette will join us
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