OverDrive - OverDrive - April 15, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Michael DiStefano for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' matchup against the Sabres, Ivan Demidov's debut with the Canadiens in Montreal and the ...Blue Jays' defeat to the Braves with decreased offensive power. TSN Host James Duthie joins to discuss Rory McIlroy's Masters win for the green jacket, Gabriel Landeskog back with the Avalanche and Ivan Demidov's debut in Montreal.

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Join today and be part of something amazing. This Hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. All right, here we go, Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker and up up on TSN for Brian Haseo, Doug Jeff O'Neill Michael DiStefano Also known as Al's brother Demi-God Al's brother
Starting point is 00:00:55 Demi-God Al's brother. Yeah, there's no way I garnered that much hype Let's be honest because what we saw last night was incredible at the Bell Center How did that guy get like I get it? Everyone knew the guy had skill. He was a first-round pick. Yeah, but how did he get hyped up? Is that some kind of marketing thing where it was like this guy's the next Gila Fleur because that was incredible You couldn't take your got your eyes off that guy Everything all the buildup was incredible like there's been a lot of hype because of what he's been doing in Russia.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And he went fifth overall and by all accounts he dropped quote unquote in the draft because there were concerns he would stay in the KHL for years. And it also is a perfect storm because Montreal is still alive. Yeah. Be very different if they had 68 points right now. There'd be hype but not to the same level. You're marrying the arrival of the future and the present. Exactly, that's what you're doing. And then for Demidov, I thought what the coolest moment of the night was the warm-up when he did the rookie lap, no helmet, and the place was
Starting point is 00:01:59 packed. Yeah. Like there were 20,000 people watching him do a toro with no helmet on at the Bell Center And as great as the goal was and that was a phenomenal Oh, the assist was better in my opinion the dangle and then to find was a new hook. I think Unbelievable, but he was doing it all night, too Yes, he was he was dancing all little touch passes and I thought he was going to get elevated to the first line. I was like, this guy's unreal. What in a way I think is beneficial for the Habs is that it clouded the fact that they choked away two points last night.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You cannot be up two nothing against that team at home when you have to win and choke away a point like that. Like that was insane. That was crazy. And Damidov at home at that. Exactly. Like you're playing for something. You have a two nothing lead on a team in Chicago that is just begging to leave and you allow them not only to get back into the game, steal a point from you. It was that that's disappointing. I was one goal away from clicking when i'm doing my sports routine at night days are getting pump for cop i'd split i i go to the montreal i'm like one more
Starting point is 00:03:11 goal here i'll go back to the jays to see if they can mount a comeback mean and then it was just bang bang to to and then they were down on my keep can't do this again chicago man well if you get chicago at home the clinch this against Chicago man well if you get Chicago at home to clinch it's literally a gift from you have to do it especially up to nothing yes you have to win that game it's shades of the the Pittsburgh Penguins a few years ago where it was the same thing remember Florida and Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh lost to
Starting point is 00:03:39 Chicago when they were tanking and they end up missing the playoffs yes and listen the Habs are still in the driver's seat. They have Carolina on Thursday night and Carolina, even with a depleted roster, is a dangerous thing. Yes. And yet Carolina is not playing for anything. There's a lot of teams in the league, like Vegas is in Calgary tonight. They don't even want to play.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Edmonton was at home last night. They had no interest in playing. We'll get to that. But Columbus has still got to win both games in regulation to even have a chance to catch Montreal. They're in Philly tonight and then they have the Islanders, I believe. Philly at home, they'll play it like Philly's got some heat right now where they're like, Torz is gone. Let's rip home some goals. So I don't think Philly's going to be a cakewalk, but you would think Columbus is gonna win that game
Starting point is 00:04:25 Well, you would think but you want last month You would have thought Montreal was gonna win last night exactly So it really would suck because I think everyone wants to see Montreal get into the dance They want to get into the playoffs keep seeing this demodav kid play especially what they've been through else brother Like it's looking like we said they were in like 10 days ago Oh, yeah, they're in man. Like there's nothing's gonna happen to win like one of their last five games They would have been good and now we'll be able to three in a row here They lost to Ottawa, Toronto and then Chicago last night and all they needed was one more point out of that whole thing
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, and they're in and they play out. It's like what yet? Listen, they're running out of steam a little bit Yeah, everything broke their way like this is not you know one of the best teams in the league We're talking about they're chasing the second wild card in the east so they have flaws and we saw it last night We've seen it this week. What is interesting though? because if you would have if we would have said Montreal it could play like an Arbitration quickly you tell Montreal. Okay, you know, you're gonna have tell Montreal okay you know you're gonna have everything break for you and you're gonna make the playoffs but you're gonna get bounce the first round you'd probably be pretty excited absolutely you
Starting point is 00:05:31 would take that but today point totals from those odds put that board back up there like some of those teams that thought they were good he's just junk I know you're talking the Rangers Boston Boston, Buffalo still not getting over the Hops. Even like New Jersey, look at New Jersey, they have 89 points. Yeah. That's like the old NFC South. And it seems like they've had 89 points for two months. Yeah they've had 89 points since the Four Nations. It's been a weird season for Jersey. Yeah, Sid has. 85 points after the Four Nations, Sheldon Keefe was like let's bring this home. They've got 89 now. Everyone start load managing we're in and like look at that
Starting point is 00:06:09 discrepancy there's a 10-point buffer between them and Carolina and then another 10 points to Washington. Like Detroit figured they were gonna make the playoffs Rangers definitely Islanders probably thought they were gonna go in Pittsburgh had this idea they were gonna contend again this year don't know why and then Boston at the bottom is insane, but they just pulled the pin at the deadline. Probably the smart thing to do. But those are some crazy totals. And we said it a bunch the last couple of weeks, Hayes, if you couldn't get in, especially in the Metro this year, you are garbage. 90 points. You just had to get to 90. That's it And listen the Habs in in the second wild card probably not much
Starting point is 00:06:47 Different mostly and get to 91 right like you're gonna have multiple teams into the playoffs with like 90 91 points That's a third wild card in baseball with 83 wins But the question is gonna that's just a that's a nothing season Well, I should be a slam dunk year where it's like nothing to worry about here, fellas. We're going in this year. Yeah. You would think so. Man.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You would think so. I'm curious though, like if Montreal squanders this, how they'll look at the season. Cause I mean, yes, at the beginning of the year, you would absolutely took the playoffs no matter what. But now if you, a week ago, you're thinking we got like a 90% chance of making the playoffs, just got to win one or two more games the rest of the year But they lose out and Columbus gets in now all of a sudden you got a super sour taste in your mouth about how that Season ended. I even look on it. It's heartbreaking through heartbreaking You get so much street credit if you get in this year because there's a chance there might be a step back next
Starting point is 00:07:39 Absolutely, they're not that good. So take advantage and give the fans give everybody around yourself something to be happy about You've got to get in you've got to get in and again, it's Montreal and now you got dem it off there You got Hudson playing you've got Suzuki and Caulfield rocking you got you got such good mojo If you're Montreal right clarify Columbus has to win in reg They have to win both games in regulation and Montreal has to lose their last game Yeah both games in regulation and Montreal has to lose their last game. So it's still in the court of the Montreal Canadiens. The Habs are still in the driver's seat here and I think they're going to punch their ticket but I'll tell you what man, that Demidov, that's the best first impression I can think
Starting point is 00:08:18 of since probably Matthews back in the day. When you consider, now this was more pressure because of what's on the line on jumping on a moving ship yes exactly like math matthews is a completely different story because it was four goals it was just unbelievable but you know he was on the team he was there for training camp it's game one of eighty two this is game eighty or game eighty one one game eighty one at the bell center easy for him to be
Starting point is 00:08:44 overwhelmed by the moment, the crowd, everything and bumbled the puck and been behind the play and been a mess. Yeah. And he wasn't. He was the best player on the ice. He was outstanding and he points in like what 10 minutes into the game? He's gonna have some growing pains. He did on the third goal. He mailed in the back check pretty badly there and there's gonna be some warts in his game. He's a young kid. he's 19 years old, but this is we've been talking about this on our show for a long time and I've been talking to people in Montreal. We were there in September, like they are craving
Starting point is 00:09:14 superstars in Montreal and he has not been anointed that yet. Let's not get crazy and I do want to address that because Toronto gets this rep. Oh, plan the the parade, oh here he is greatest player of all time. The Habs are getting their, they're getting their their flowers right now. Demi-God is a pretty pretty good nickname for Superstar. And much of all Canadian fans are watching TSN for 24 hours, all you see is Demidov and the Habs, they get their their cake and eat it too. All right it's not only about Toronto being over the top with buzz and excitement and you should be excited and it's always only about toronto being over the top with buzz and excitement and you should be excited and it's always ridiculous when the rest of the country's like all the fans
Starting point is 00:09:48 being excited why wouldn't you be your favorite team you want to be excited habs fans have a right to be excited and they have been watching the rest of the country in particular i think in this kind of era of superstardom where you have mcdavid you got dry so do you got matthews marner neelander tovarez you got quinn hughes you got Dry Sutter, you got Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, you got Quinn Hughes, you got Halibuck, you got Kichuk and Stootsla and they've been waiting to be able to get in on the
Starting point is 00:10:11 party and Suzuki's a really good player. Caulfield really good player but now you got Lane Hudson and maybe Demidov and it's like maybe you're jumping into that party too as like okay we're a part of the superstar era now if it gets to that point and last night was just an incredible scene and we'll see if the Habs get in and tonight it carries over because Calgary's at home against Vegas right and they're trying to stay alive Vegas is not sending anyone up to even play now but st. Louis and Minnesota are both in action st. Louis has got Utah at home and min's got Anaheim at home. If they win those games, it's over for Calgary,
Starting point is 00:10:48 but the chase is on. And as for the Maple Leafs, you just gotta get a point tonight. You gotta get a point tonight because Tampa's playing Florida and it became a meaningless game last night because Florida lost to New York. So I don't believe they can catch Tampa anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So I'm curious what that game's gonna look like where the Panthers have nothing to play for. I don't think Florida Panthers. I haven't seen Florida even sending a Ross. Well it's probably like the Edmonton Kings game. Go ahead send a message but if you lose 4-0 it doesn't do anything for the Leafs. Like unless they win the game or take a point from Tampa the Leafs are gonna have to do it themselves tonight. Which is what should be expected. Very similar to have chicago last night with all the respect to buffalo
Starting point is 00:11:28 it is rolled through for to got pumped a couple times they have not been close to the playoffs in fourteen years the lease have a reason to play tonight stores is in that go and get two points lock up the battle of ontario and then mail in the rest of the week it's an odd it's another opportunity to get rid of one of the worst phrases in the history of pro sports. And you've said it, and you've said it, and I've said it, and probably everyone in this building has said it. The phrase is, that's the leafiest thing ever. And you know what goes along with that's the leafiest thing ever. Because, and they're trying to chip
Starting point is 00:12:04 away this year, they've got a different coach, and people are starting to give them some cred for playing well in tight games. Because what was the leafiest thing ever in the past? They'd blow tight games. One nothing game against the Montreal Canadiens at home. A zero zero game going into the third. The leafiest thing ever would be to lose that game and the Leafiest thing ever on top of that would be to go to Carolina and give smoke for nothing. Yep
Starting point is 00:12:31 But they're chipping away at not doing the leafiest thing ever Yeah And one of the big leafiest things ever would be to go to Buffalo and get your ass handed to you because of all the ghosts And goblins and Buffalo. in Buffalo and the stupid things, ugly face shooting it into his own net, losing there all the time. It was the leafiest thing ever to go into Buffalo and get killed. Yeah, you're right. So keep chipping away at erasing that phrase and it's gonna be a really difficult phrase to get rid of.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Winning the Stanley Cup might be the only thing ever to erase the phrase, that's the leafiest thing ever. Yeah, you're right. But they have to keep chipping it away and it's like baby steps to really grab that phrase and throw it in the garbage. You're right. That is a phrase. Oh my God. All you got to do is say it and people can close their eyes and go, I know what that means. Oh yeah. And I've seen it. I'm living it again. I'm living it right now Dude, we could do a three-hour show on the leafiest things ever. Oh, so that goes into law ranking blowing series. Yeah, AIDS. Oh Ballard like it the the if we did a show called the leafiest show ever Yeah, we'd have to like dress in funeral. It would be the most depressing you're right
Starting point is 00:13:41 It'd be a black top like black suit black shirt. We would get dropped off in a hearse That's right with Paul Bearer in the background. Like THE Paul Bearer. And you're right. It would... Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo something there. Then what are the divisions? That's saying, that slogan is cringeworthy. Oh yeah. And tonight is another example of it. And tonight is another chance for them to knock it down. Now the true test is coming in five days or six days. But if you can go out on the... Battle of Ontario, the leafiest thing ever from the ghosts of the past.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Oh yes. We can't go down. We can't hear Paul Bearer. Don't bring this into existence right now. We're talking about killing that phrase. We're killing Paul Bearer. Yeah, we don't want to bring life into this phrase, and we don't want the Maple Leafs to supply more of it, but you're right. And tonight is a chance for them to say, stuff it Paul Bearer.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah, go to hell Paul Bearer. Take a lap Paul Bearer, because you're not going to be a part of this anymore and Stolars is going everyone else is playing for the most part. Yeah, Greg Borube was talking about Ekman Larson and McCabe today and I think he's playing coy like I I think you know, he's not coming I don't know if he's good if they're gonna be ready that feels like gamesmanship and But playing if it's the Stanley Cup playoffs that's the whole point like you don't need them tonight they're not gonna play on Thursday but they're gonna be ready for the playoffs I would I would be
Starting point is 00:15:11 surprised if they're not but if he's not being a hundred percent coy if there's a chance one or both are going to miss playoff action that is significant like that that is a big big chunk out of your defense core, two veterans, two guys who have played really well this year. And then you're forced into playing, you got to call someone up, which they'll be able to do when the cap ranks fires after game 82. But you're talking like Marshall Raffae, and Philippe Myers playing games in the playoffs, if those two can't go like that we'll cross
Starting point is 00:15:45 that bridge when we get to it but I think if you're a Leaf fan and you hear Marube speak on it today you're hoping what he's doing is playing chess. I would imagine so I thought last week even said there's a chance McCabe plays at some point before the season's over if he's not playing tonight I suppose that means potentially on Thursday but if they were saying that last week I mean the guy hasn't skated since so I don't really know if there's been a chance to be a setback you would think that he'll be ready to go for game one and that would be the one guy that I think would seriously worry me because he's been a
Starting point is 00:16:13 massive part of this team success this year and kind of flipping that script of playing that sound defensive game hard-nosed and going up against Ottawa now that we it's nearly locked in that it's going to be Ottawa battle That's a physical team. That's a team that likes to get up in your face. Jake mccabe Will need to be in the lineup. Yes And it'll be interesting like as much as the Leafs are playing coy to an extent with mccabe the sends are doing the same thing With kichuk who hasn't played in a long time. Yeah, and the belief is he'll be ready But will he be at 100?
Starting point is 00:16:44 Because if he's not like that's that's a big chunk to start the playoffs guys get hurt during the journey But to start the playoffs, you know banged up or at 90% you can get down to 80% quick Yeah, you hit that guy a couple of times and you know that that's going to be the plan He's just said that done because he's a bull but Yeah, we got a big one tonight in Buffalo you can hear it right here on TSN radio watching on TSN 4 so we'll tee that up throughout the afternoon Alice brother you're down at the Jays game last night yeah I was down at the Dome they got to see Miles straw hit a home run that's about it
Starting point is 00:17:15 Miles straw has more home runs than Vladie jr. and Bo Bichette combined isn't that incredible like it's it's I was thinking about it last night watching that game because here he goes I am because up until yesterday I already had enough of Hayes up until yesterday. It was awesome Vlad E signed 500 million. This is great. And I'm a proponent of that. I like that. They kept their homegrown star Yep, there's 17 games in it's it's getting ridiculous now how poorly these guys are playing and they are awful at the plate the two Of them right now. I was sick to my stomach yesterday and it's funny I was you know with some friends and I couldn't believe it but one man that's
Starting point is 00:17:51 your piss man they were both over for those they were terrible they were it was awful but the fact that I don't know was it was it on Saturday offside that the crowd gave laddie an absolute standing ovation his first at bat last night. I think that's onside. Listen, again- For me, I'm sitting here, I'm like, since he signed his contract, he's done squat. Well, and this is where I think it's gonna have to spin. Like, you look at what's going on in New York right now with Juan Soto, and we'll get to that,
Starting point is 00:18:16 where he's complaining that he doesn't have Judge with him. The Mets are 11 and 5. Like, they're off to a really good start. He actually came out and said, I don't have judge protection. Yes. He's like, well, basically, I don't know if there's audio of that or it was just, okay, I think it was just the New York Post anyway. He was, he was, he was asked like, are, are, are pitchers approaching you differently?
Starting point is 00:18:38 And he's like, well, yeah, cause I don't have judge behind me anymore. And it did not go over well in New York. That's what I get to Hayes when I talk about situations where I mean you could set yourself up for the next seven or eight years to hit in front of judge, make almost the exact same amount of money but for what? A certain amount of money you went to the Mets just for like... I don't get it. To get away from Judge. Players don't fact like maybe he thought I love hitting in front of this guy but
Starting point is 00:19:10 I also want it to be my own show with the Mets. That's what I think. How stupid is that? That's what I think. And then he has the audacity to even bring that up like like you just I don't think players think enough about the situation they can be successful in. Matthew Nyes is a prime example he's got to be looking looking at Austin Matthews, who's going to be here three more years guaranteed after this year. Mm-hmm. So sign a bridge deal and say, I can be that guy's left winger. You're probably still going to make some good cake.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't know what it's going to be. But don't get pissy with this and screw around with it. I can be Austin Matthews' left winger and still make great money. Yeah. For the next three years. And then after that that I could get paid again maybe he stays maybe I got a circle back and do something different after that but Juan Soto I can hit in front of judge for the next ten years it just it's the last guy on anyone wants to hear anything from and I don't get a home run last night you can't make
Starting point is 00:20:01 excuses when you make seven hundred and sixty five million dollars wall just can't here's here's the way i would approach it those he he is technically just telling the truth of course they're going to attack you differently about dude lights no you can't say that exactly analysts can say it people watching the team the manager can say hey listen there of course he's gonna see some different pitches it's gonna be a little bit different he's not gonna get as many down Broadway because the guys behind them they're not they're not
Starting point is 00:20:29 terrified of that guy right now right it's a bit of a shot at whoever's hit behind him right now like it's basically who the hell are you and why is Aaron Judge not behind me but no one wants to hear it from a guy who just made 765 million 16 games in you can't say well what do you want to me i mean they're not giving me what i'm looking for because judges in here as banana it's a crazy crazy comment to make and again that the metro eleven and five they're off to a great start and he's just kinda plod along he hasn't had a great starts been okay so i was
Starting point is 00:20:58 calling i would literally march down about something like i ever hear something like that you again but for seven hundred sixty five million you lost the right to say that new rule march down to that clubhouse and be like, I ever hear something like that from you again. For 765 million. You lost the right to say that. New rule, you're never allowed to say the name Aaron Judge or the Yankees, you can't, nothing, it didn't exist. You didn't play there. You're a New York Met for the rest of your life
Starting point is 00:21:17 and you make whoever's sitting behind you work. You make them pop and you make the guy in front of you pop and it just, it's an astonishing comment, but that's where I'm at with Vladdy in particular. Like now that you got the guy in front of you pop and it just, it's an astonishing comment. But that's where I'm at with Vlad E in particular. Like now that you got the contract, it's time to, you gotta get going here, man. Like you're 17 games in, you have not hit a home run. It's unreal.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Like it's, that's an astonishing statistic. Miles Straw has more home runs than you. You've gotta get going, man. I know it's a long season, but they're already 10% into the into the season like 20% comes quick And then 30% like you're he's got to get going and last night I thought him and Bo both of them their approach And they got some tough pitchers coming up tonight tomorrow throughout the rest of the week
Starting point is 00:21:57 It who is that hillbilly chucking for the Well, I just wheeled out there with his stash in his mullet and was slicing and dicing. No, no through six? Yes. Until the homer? Yep. Miles Straugh broke it up. You almost witnessed a no hitter at the dome last time. I'm looking at the, I think it was the start of the fifth inning, I look over and I look up and I'm like, this guy's only thrown 35 pitchers. Yep. Grant Holmes. We're in the fifth inning, I look over and I look up like, this guy's only thrown 35 pitches. Yep. Grant Holmes. When the fifth inning, he's thrown 35 pitches,
Starting point is 00:22:29 and like 28 of them were for strikes. Yeah. Like that guy was dealing last night. Yes, he was. Yeah, he was. I saw something so outrageous too. So the glove guy is one thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Eye paint guy? That's a whole other ball game. Eye paint guy. He had double? With the dome closed. Dome closed. There's not even any sun. There's no reason for this. Double eye paint, both eyes with a Brett Laurie jersey. Brett Laurie? Brett Laurie jersey. I like that guy. He had some pizazz. Brett Laurie? He was a lunatic out there. He had a character. Remember how many Red Bulls? He would admit after the game, like I had five Red Bulls during the game. He was going nuts. He was a jacked up guy. Yeah, they unleashed, that was a pretty good trade where they got Donaldson for Laurie going the other way and other pieces. But yeah, eye black guy in general
Starting point is 00:23:19 is completely unacceptable. Maybe if you're lower bowl, game in the in the sun yeah maybe and i've been that if you're behind home plate when it's hot it is scorching good but even that is what the hell you're talking bring glasses that's what has the right to wear eyeglasses. RCMP needs to be tracking him. I couldn't believe it. That guy's up to something and we need to know what's going on. I couldn't believe when I saw that that I just laid eyes on that and I'm like that is Probably the most outrageous thing I've seen at a ballpark. Yeah, the the two sports we've talked about it It's baseball and golf where you see Like guys that they just they thought they could make it that guy thought he was making it in the majors He played little league ball when he was 10 and 12 was He was probably a good player and Kitchener or something.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I've said it for years, man. I don't care what, I don't know what the hell you think you're doing. You do not wear golf shoes to a golf tournament if you're not teeing it up. Never. No. Never. Never. Ever.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Ever. Wear your casual shoes that you would wear to walk around. I agree. You are not wearing your golf shoes. I know. I know. And you see it all the time You want grip for well there the explanation is you're walking up and down hills. Tell me you're a golf shoe guy Oh, I'm not a golf shoe guy However, at least I can look at it And if especially if it's a little wet outside and you don't want to get your no runners all
Starting point is 00:24:40 Me I see but here's like these are this these of the pair shoes that i wear on a golf course i'm going to a golf course but you're not playing you don't work speed i get a scotia bank arena have you're not on your gardens what are you gonna where your sky's hockey skates right like if you go down to a raptor game are you wearing jordans like high top basketball jordans thinking i could be playing or i might walk on the court at some point that's the point there's no such thing as thinking i could be do it I might walk on the court at some point. That's the point there's no such thing as thinking I could be doing it. You're not doing anything. You're a spectator. You're a patron. You're a fan. And it's the same thing with golf like glove guy. It's the same thing as I've pointed out for many
Starting point is 00:25:15 many years. If you're there with your kids totally different story. That's an experience. They want to bring their glove. They want you to bring your glove. If you're there as an adult the two of us or three of us are at the game and one of us has a glove I'm sorry you that just is completely unacceptable behavior in society If I had glasses on and I was walking to meet you guys for a Jays game And I noticed one had paint under their eyes and the other had a glove Now I know you didn't see me I turn around and I get in an uber and I go home They without even a courtesy text. No, I'm not even saying I can't make it. I just would never be able to live
Starting point is 00:25:48 with myself walking in there with a guy with a baseball glove on. A grown man. Ghosting. King Daddy Topper, he had a sign with him that said give it a whack and when Vlad E stepped up to the plate he stood up and put the sign up that said give it a whack. I could not believe that. I never saw him on TV the sign up that's a given while i could not believe i never saw him on t v last night and that's the another person out in the bleachers you ever done that those those twenty dollar bleacher tickets i haven't done not a bad setup yet they have a bad that's on the dot as they've done as good of a job as you could do with that place yeah
Starting point is 00:26:19 did you hear some with what the dome is they've done a really good job this is going to cut deep. One of our childhood heroes, Dougie Gilmore. Oh no. Don't. No. Stop talking. I don't want to hear that.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I can't look at Doug Gilmore differently. I don't want to have a different impression of Doug Gilmore. It's the worst thing you've ever. Don't tell me what it is. He just sent me a note and says i cut my grass and golf shoes up up cut
Starting point is 00:26:50 block his number is grass engulfed shoes walkers are block his number first of all the amount of the leaves highest care cutting his own grass which i do have respect i get respect for that let's get a company out there but you cannot wear the ball from her. Where does he live? At Augusta National? It's like the overtime goals erasing from my memory from behind the net against St. Louis. It's like it's slowly starting to go. He's behind the net in golf shoes for the rest of my life. He's doing a spinner am on Cujo in golf shoes and then runs to the corner to meet Todd Gill
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah, I can't I can't do it man. I wish you didn't tell me that it's terrible So I'm actually genuinely disappointed you would tell me that Yagi cuts his lawn in golf shoes for traction 127 points is a leaf in golf shoes. Yeah cutting the lawn The sad one. I'm sick over this. All right, James Duffy coming up. I'll bet you Duffy does that though. Duffy screams he lives in his golf shoes. He may wear golf gloves. When you get in, like just kind of casually get into the Masters and say if you were going to a golf tournament,
Starting point is 00:27:58 would you wear golf shoes? He would say yes. I think he probably would. All right, we'll put him on the spot. We'll be spontaneous and we'll get his tag in the Leaf game tonight Demidoff last night the Masters scratched the Dougie stuff from the pod yeah get that out We can't have people I can't have people so I don't want to know way man We're guilty of allowing the world to know Doug Gilmore's golf shoes Oh offside when he mows his lawn overdrive where's golf shoes? So offside. When he mows his lawn. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. Overdrive continues powered by Fandual bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Lots of support for Doug Gilmore online. Lots of support, man. We're getting like dozens
Starting point is 00:28:40 and dozens of people tweeting in saying, I stand with Dougie. Oh Duffy what he does. What was it? He wears golf shoes to cut his grass. Do you support that? Well I mean what are we talking about here because golf shoes. It doesn't matter man. Well you can't. Full spikes? Yeah the old like foot joy. Nails they call them. If you wear nails in the bottom of your old classics. That's a little bit. And if he's out there, you know how you can change the spikes now with the plastic ones? You're out there doing that before the lawn thing. Let's face it, it's Dougie. He can do anything. I guess, yeah, Gilmore can. It's a lot though. It's a little like the golf glove guy at the, at the, at the master. That's what we're talking about. Okay. Do you see
Starting point is 00:29:22 the, I don't, I didn't see that much at the Masters, that type of behavior. Did you see a range finder? Did you see one guy with a range? You must have saw some... No, no, no. It's some binoculars and stuff, but no, not that. People are decked out generally at the Masters. A lot of times...
Starting point is 00:29:37 Big show. Yeah, it's a big show. Not a show. The Phoenix is more of a fashion show, waist management. It's like a party. In the Masters, but what a weekend. I know you're probably sick of talking about it. So incredible.
Starting point is 00:29:49 You probably did three hours yesterday. So incredible. The best ever. And you know, people say, I did get a question when I said that because people say recency bias. But I also think there's the opposite, which is like history bias. When you witness something, you say, well, this can't be the best ever because there's been so much in history. But I think this will be, as talked
Starting point is 00:30:07 about as any in 30 years. And you know, Jack's win in 86 was amazing and historical because he was 46 and back in 86 that was like a grandfather, it felt like winning the Masters. So that was unexpected. And Tiger's win, first one in 97, was historical on so many levels and then when Tiger won again I thought I'd never see anything like that But if you take the whole week all four days were unbelievable The leaderboard was jammed and if you take just the the roller coaster of that round Like I always say I don't know if the right word is a gasp But what do you say at home like holy blank or what those kind of moments if you
Starting point is 00:30:45 in a great sporting event you might get three or four of those moments that started on whole there were legit ten I was so I'm out on one when he doubles I couldn't see him putting so we laughed after his shot and try to catch up with Corey and then I see the sky sports guys so I'm like what happened he's like he doubled and some guys were sort of listening to me and they're like what happened I'm like he doubled and they're just reaction of oh my god It's happening. So there's one You know three and four great shots, but I won't call those like those moments seven through the trees. Yes. Holy crap 11 99 times out of a hundred that goes in the water
Starting point is 00:31:19 Okay, that shot even and Ludwig had just chipped out like a few minutes before he goes for it That's two inches from the water. You're right. So there's three 13 Incredible like I think I fell to my knees. Yeah 15 One of the most insane shots in the history of golf 17 concerning what he had to do 18 putting it in the bunker the miss putt on 18 The playoff hole getting it that close and then so there's 10 Like unbelievable. Holy crap moments by one guy yeah in one sporting event with the
Starting point is 00:31:50 buildup of his history with ten years of a Shakespearean tragedy all playing out so you can't tell me and even in those other ones when Tiger won in 19 it was incredible but the tournament wasn't that great leading up and even in on that day Tiger was hit in the middle of greens and stuff. This was the greatest sports movie of all time. And the saddest thing is, we will never see it again. Because what in our careers can possibly match that? A Canadian could win and it would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But it won't be like that because the crowds won't be like that. And maybe Spieth in 12 years, if he goes through a Rory-like stage wins one it might be neat, but he won't win like that. We won't see anything like this again in a lifetime probably. I know one thing in sports that could top it Jimmy. You talking a Leaf win? I'm talking just golf. I know.
Starting point is 00:32:42 But you're right though. Like honestly this guy, because you mentioned Spieth, Spieth is never in contention. No one shows up at any tournament and thinks he's going to win. Rory McIlroy threw away the US Open nine months ago. Like he just threw away the US Open nine months ago. The loss at St. Andrews. And he threw away the one before that that won them Clark. Absolutely. He was in that. And that's what was it was like it was almost like a 10 season HBO crave
Starting point is 00:33:09 Masterpiece that landed the finale. Yeah, you know like it was just it was almost like this unbelievable ride Probably could have started at the British where he blew it to camp Smith. Absolutely. That's at st. Andrew Yes, and blows it to can't even you're right This would be the final tail if he'd won by six on Sunday. But to win in that way, which is kind of the only way Rory could win it, is to fail. That's what made it amazing. Like I said earlier, he choked, unchoked, choked, unchoked, choked, unchoked. Five times in the round.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Well, and I have found myself, like I was talking to my wife about it actually this morning, she's like, man, you keep talking about all these failures he had. And I guess I was programmed for that because I kept, like he won. And I keep talking about all these failures he had, and I guess I was programmed for that, because I kept, like he won, and I keep talking about 13 and what he did on 18 and what he did on one, and I saw someone tweet out this morning, the percentages, like, because he hit shots that are not human, like the shot he hit on 15,
Starting point is 00:33:59 the shot he hit on 17, the shot out of the trees, but this guy, Lou Stagner, who's a Gold Stat Pro, tweeted out that the chances of him hitting the shots on 15, 16, and 17, I missed the putt on 16, but he hit one to 9 feet and it was up on that top layer, like the pin, the Jack Nicklaus 75 pin. He said Rory hitting the shots he hit into 15, 16, and 17 was a one in 28,000 chance of happening because of the percentages. The shot on 15 was a 2% chance of happening. The shot on 17 was.37% likely for him to hit it to like
Starting point is 00:34:36 a foot, foot and a half. So that guy had a three hole run with three of the greatest irons we've ever seen in our lives and yet he still almost threw it away on 18 with one of the worst wedges we've ever seen in our life It's just an unbelievable story and we're two days removed. I still can't believe it Sorry, this is sound like a horrible like humble brag, but when I got to play I was in the exact same spot He was at on 13 because I laid up and not from the members to use which are like a hundred in front of where he was sitting. I laid up to almost that exact spot because I remember thinking oh I'm hitting in the water. He hit it awful close to the hazard on his second shot. Yeah I know very close. That like Hayes you wouldn't you would be on the green if
Starting point is 00:35:18 you just had to hit the green on that shot 98 times out of a hundred you. Right. Yeah. And the best player in the world missed his target by 30 yards anyway it was just and you know it's funny I would tell the story when Tiger won in 19 he made a great two putt on 9 and Puffy our producer and I were right there at that walkway between 9 and 10 and you know you're not supposed to be a cheerleader when you're covering sports, let alone the Masters. And Tiger walks by and Puffy just couldn't help himself. He's like, you got this Tiger!
Starting point is 00:35:50 We have media credentials, you can't do this. And then we're leaving after we do our stuff on Sunday night and we're walking out from our studio, which is... the other surreal scene was when Rosie was on the range. He's right behind us. And it was the weirdest thing. So we're watching on the big screen and Rosie's just over our shoulders and there's like 15 people in the grandstand I'm going what are you people doing crazy Rory's coming up 18 to win one of the most historic Masters ever yeah and in your you're on the grandstand in the rain committed to
Starting point is 00:36:20 Rose watching Rose staying hot anyway I'm leaving and the cart starts to come towards us and I realize it's Rory and I just I got caught up in it I'm like Rory that was amazing you're such an idiot I couldn't stop myself he just gives me the little wave. That was incredible I nerded out the scene like the wall the the him just everything like that was oceans pouring out him crying him walking off the course yeah that little six minutes cbs from the uh... and event especially that one the one that just in cal like i think nansen in moment someone did the math
Starting point is 00:36:52 they said like forty three words in seven minutes like it just they allowed it to breathe it was just this part here like this one that you see him going through the entire decade right here again in his face. Ten years of emotion. He's going through every single miss and what he's just done and it's, I think that's going to be one of the more iconic, you know, one minute shots in sport that we ever see. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Top to top though. James Duthie with me, or with us in studio. Okay, since we're on the theme of like the impossible happening or the unbelievable finally becoming believable Let me ask you guys a question a couple weeks ago. We did the hot tub Take machine the hot we went back in time if I had have told you in September, which one of these options would you have said are Just impossible to believe or more impossible to believe I had have told you in September Just impossible to believe or more impossible to believe I had have told you in September
Starting point is 00:37:50 Miko ranton and will be playing against the avalanche in the first round or Gabe Landisgog will be playing for the avalanche in the first round which one would you choose that would Which one would you say there's no way I don't believe that Niko random more so than landisgog Yeah, that came out of the blue where it was like if they were going to make like just at the beginning of the season if you said i think the avalanche agreement try to make another run for it with out me go ran and i was about i don't have time for this yeah i really do not i just didn't think let landisgard
Starting point is 00:38:18 has been playing three years but i find it was not there was talk for the last year that he re years he's been trying final i mean i worked out I'm trying to come back. There was talk for the last year that he... Three years he's been trying. I know. I mean, I... Worked out. It did, and I credit him. It's the most incredible story. Usually the guy just ends up going back to Sweden,
Starting point is 00:38:30 you never hear from him again. That's what I'm saying. I never for a second thought he'd ever play again. Like not for a second, for at least a year and a half, I've been like, it's over. Remember we had the press conference last year and it felt almost forced, like I'm gonna try to keep playing and the like.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Has a prominent player been out that long? I mean we've had you know different circumstances with Sakukovu and Mario and their diseases in their careers you know Forsberg missed like almost a year I think at some point but the three years and then come back and play a prominent role would be fascinating. Based on injury I can't think of one. And on your question like the ranting thing add another layer to it That need be playing AIDS Colorado after being traded to another test. You're right. That's probably that's impossible That probably is the answer. Where was he on the TSN top 50?
Starting point is 00:39:15 I'd imagine he was in the top 15 coming into the see coming into the frankie. Yeah, for sure top 20 for sure Yeah, and Colorado is going for a cups gonna trade that guy it is worked out and i'm not an unbelievable but i think it's just an incredible turn of events at landis gox been called up like it sounds like he's gonna play yeah like the guys gonna play for the avalanche again after three years which is remarkable and he's going to be up against randin and last time we saw them they were on the holding a stanley cop
Starting point is 00:39:42 it's incredible landis gog back when we were NHL on TSN, came into our studio for an interview in his rookie season. And I think I'd never spoken to him before. Maybe it was his draft season. And you know, Swedish, like he did not have the hint of a Swedish accent. Guys like Matts and Alfredson played 20 years in the league and you can still hear Swedish. Gabriel Landestog at 18 years old did not have one tinge. He sounded like the most Canadian guy you could have. And it threw me because I guess I'd never spoken to him before and he was 18 or something at the time. And yeah, just a bizarro.
Starting point is 00:40:20 He sounds like he grew up in like Don Mills. Exactly. Like this guy, he's a Swedish player. So where are you at with Demidov? Where are we going? Take, take. I love the hype. Put this in a perspective, the Demidov story. I know that face and I know it means everybody needs to calm down. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I wouldn't, especially if you're in Montreal and you haven't had that guy. I don't know if it was you that were, oh, you were talking about on Jay Show last night, how long it's been since, how long they've been striving for a Le Fleur type character and it's an awful lot to make that comparison after one game. But it's pretty rare that you get hyped like that and even in the, you know, the rookie warm-up skate and to have an ovation like that, I don't remember one like that, and then to perform like that in the first period is pretty rare. And so I think this is worthy of the hype
Starting point is 00:41:16 and all the hyperbole, that pass, that move to lead to that pass, and then the move on the goal. And suddenly, don't you think this whole season has so changed the outlook of the Habs from I think the outsiders perspective Habs fans have probably been watching these guys coming but you know us on the outside covering the Leafs more in Toronto I think that you go okay you know this is a decent team but they don't really have any you know Suzuki's really good and Caulfield's really good and they're developing but they're lacking and
Starting point is 00:41:47 suddenly you you add Hudson and this guy and some of the guys that were saying that Habs are I think was MJ or Craig I think was MJ who said the Habs gonna be the next Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup it it's certainly not a preposterous statement at this point in time sorry Hazy V. It's putting the card pretty far ahead of the horse right now. I'm just saying, pure talent. If Toronto and Winnipeg stumble Edmonton over the next, let's say, two years, then suddenly they could emerge very quickly on the scene as the best Canadian team.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Their window is not even open yet. And where the Leafs it's closing Edmonton's close Edmonton's in big trouble like they're in big big trouble and I agree I feel like they're not the favorite against LA I don't think they should be I'm curious about Fandu I thought I looked earlier and I think the Oilers are still the betting favorite but that's in Canada the whole thing about beating a team like even two years in a row to beat them four years in a row and and to have so many injuries and that's bad that's a candle holding a beating a team like even two years in road to beat them four years in a row and and to have so many injuries and
Starting point is 00:42:47 and i don't know that i call that's a like that back i a held the fall down there in that bush are go out there and we'll around and he was everything for their blue line more than ever dry saddle and make david are going to have to will a series when there is more than they've done it before they can do it ever they're gonna have to do it. They can do it. Yeah, they're minus 128 on Fandl.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Kings are plus 106. It's close to a Pick'em. I guess is, but last night it locked it in. Like Kings have home ice. I don't know. But yeah, listen, I hear you. And another thing the Habs have going for them is they don't really have anchors in terms of contracts.
Starting point is 00:43:23 If anything, they're out in front of Suzuki and Caulfield. We'll see, Slevkovsky still, I think, got to reach another level, but they got good kids in the system and maybe this allows them to sign a player or two-and-free agency and they take that next step. Because I'll tell you what, like the Sid to Montreal thing is going to get crazy. Oh, if that team gets, if that team gets going next couple of years. That's the one. Sid to Montreal to wrap up his career and put them over the top. Thanks for the Twitter abuse I'm about to take.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Okay let's show Dougie Gilmore shoes. Do you want to take us through this? This is exciting. Look at that. Okay so they're not this are they the spikes? Those are the two or three sixties I think. Those are the old school Dita shoes. The kid Dougie just puttin' in a clinic. Those things have put in a lot of lawnmower. I did see a lot of golf shoes at Augusta. He's doin' it every Monday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 There was a lot of golf shoes at Augusta National, but not a lot of, like, spikes. More like, you know, there's a real fine line between golf shoe and running shoe. But you saw people wearing golf shoes. 100%, yes. Okay. I mean, there are stylish golf shoes. I mean, I was. 100% yes. Okay. I mean there are stylish golf shoes. I mean I was in a sense the Puma stuff they give us are running shoes that you could wear as golf shoes. You know what I had... How about something, how about some of the stupid hats people were buying? If you can't, I always bug you to get me...
Starting point is 00:44:36 If you came back with a hat that said pimento cheese on... like they were selling... Egg salad? Egg salad hats! They were selling eggs... like if you came back with that I'd rip it up and burn it in the garbage right in front of you. I did get you a little something something I didn't bring it tonight, but it is it's not like that. It's nothing nothing anybody would ever see but I'll present it to you Thursday and if you think it's goofy you can talk about it on the program. Okay, I won't accept it I don't know you have to accept it. It's. Okay. I won't accept it. I don't... You have to accept it. I think you'll like it. It's a gift. I think you'll like it.
Starting point is 00:45:07 You've got to accept it, man. We're all too old to be accepting crap. You have to accept it. You just have to say to the person, sorry, I'm not interested. I just think I want to acknowledge the fact that a real step forward in our relationship, that for the first time in my, I think, thirteen Masters, you didn't either tell me on Sunday morning that you wanted something or not say anything and then get mad at me when I came back and didn't have anything for you because you assumed that I would get
Starting point is 00:45:28 you something. Okay. Well done. It's a big step forward. That was a big step forward. We're all grown up. There we go. Look at us, all growns up.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yep. All right, JD. Good seeing you, man. Yeah. The vision title tonight. Title fight. It's the Battle of Ontario. Could be locked in tonight on TSN4.
Starting point is 00:45:44 The big one. Guys,. From the Masters to Buffalo. That's how you show your scratch of broadcast. Exactly. That's range. That's range. That's why he's up for the Canadian Screen Awards. Oh stop. You never know, you might take him down this year.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm going to try. Even I'm on Team Haze. Thank you. Thank you. Did you vote? Well no, I wouldn't vote for you but I symbolically I'm on your side. I appreciate the support. I don't have a good voice. No I hear you. Me neither. All right there's James Duthey. We'll catch him on the panel tonight. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on TSN 4. All right Mike Johnson coming up. Confirmed with Deny as well. Head of Leaf Sabers tonight. We got a bunch of games in the n.h.l. j's back in action tonight
Starting point is 00:46:27 looking to bounce back nine and eight yankees won last night yankees leaped over them it's early you can't be right so i cannot stand it at you did have a little may not the last night but you did have a little mini blow up it was like yesterday you're like this is a great deal congrats ross today you're like this is a great deal congrats Ross today you were like why he needs to wake up listen it's a 14 year contract we can't analyze the contract every single time he does something positively or negatively I
Starting point is 00:46:54 said I didn't warn you about it I was a third choice for a guy you wanted to hand money out to oh Johnny was one Soto was two and you just settle for three and you just did it to do it well there there is truth in that lineage in terms of what they were trying to do but like he's got a slash line right now 284 on base 347 he's slugging 343 like that's that's an OPS under 700 he hasn't had a home run looking at the jumbotron last night miles straw and Tyler Heineman led the lineup in OPS. Yeah, Heineman and Straw have home runs. Those are bench players. Heineman has not hit a home run since 2019.
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