OverDrive - OverDrive - April 22, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jamie McLennan, and MArk Giordano for Hour 3 on OverDrive! The guys preview the Maple LEafs and Senators' matchup for Game 2 of the Battle of Ontario, the biggest x-factors for the entirety of the season and who's under the microscope. TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson furthers the conversation around the game, the stars in the spotlight and the importance of continuing off of Game 1 and Maple Leafs commentators Joe Bowen and Jim Ralph preview the tilt and Bryan gives his FanDuel Best Bets.

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Made in Canada, played in Canada. On the free iHeartRadio app and at iHeartRadio.ca. It's gonna get loud. Final hour overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Brian Hayes, Mark Giordano, Jamie Noodles, McLennan. We got Mike Johnson joining us scene studio in just a moment

job on jim ralph from scotia bank arena coming up in about a half an hour game to want to use a radio tonight got four games in the stanley cup playoffs including an eleven p m eastern time so far it's minnesota vegas eleven p m who the hell put that one to i have never seen that but i don't i don't think

i ever seen it what time is it in base at three hours earlier as a p m primetime but it's ten p m in minnesota their central time that's i have never seen that before eleven p m scheduled start we've seen ten thirty wink wink it's gonna start at ten forty nine and yet eleven p m means eleven twelve part drop exactly by his crazy man Yeah, 11 p.m. Means 1112 puck drop exactly like which is crazy, man And ESPN and I think it's because Panthers lightning is at 830. They're trying to stagger the games Yeah, it's all the ESPN tonight in the states where Devil's hurricane starts right now

Even that one is a player like the six or no lock so what a 30 like eight o'clock was miserable I hated playing eight. We got them all the time. Like what do you do, we talk about it all the time. With the Leafs it's like you're playing seven o'clock Eastern all the time, they get that prime spot. Second game, hockey night or whatever out in Alberta, that's eight o'clock start. Like did that change, did you eat later?

Did you do it? Like your nap was different or you just killed your time? You had too much time in the afternoon. So it's like, you're antsy, right? Like, you wanna get to the rink and get going and then you have an extra hour. So guys loved it. Some guys loved sleeping, but I was like, I hated it.

I think he woulda had a five hour nap. Yeah, and we had so much time. And the worst part is being home a lot in Alberta, right? You're pregame skate so early. Yeah, and we had so much time and and the worst part is being home a lot in Alberta right your pregame skates So early yeah, and actually you you get to lunch at like 11, and then you have nine hours to play crazy You're right though Panthers lightnings 830. That's that's with your Mojang chair Although they haven't played in feels like a week and a half either Okay, this is weird, but I used to tie my skates at a certain time. You look at the clock, it's like, hey, it's a seven o'clock game, you're going out for

a warmup, 12 minutes before a warmup, you have to adjust that timing for a warmup. Warmup tonight for that Florida Panthers game is going to be 8 p.m. Crazy. Yeah, it's two extra hours in the afternoon that you have to kill. Right, and obviously ESPN is banking on one game into the next into the next. They're all two and a half hours apart, which is really dicey. If any of these games go into overtime, I don't think they'd delay the start. They'd probably just push it over to ESPN 2 or whatever, but there might be a slight delay.

Well, you got to. That's another thing. 830 could be 846 or something like that. That's late. You got to think there's gonna be over times here as the playoffs go on. I mean, we saw three last night. Right. I thought I did see some.

Or two, almost three in Edmonton. I thought I did see some or two, like puck drop is 846 or seven or something. They plan it. It's usually 17 minutes after, unless you've got a harmonica or whatever the hell that thing was. The harmonicas.

Did you see that Gio or see it on. I heard about it though. Electric last night man. How much did you bank on the anthem pumping you up? Oh man, I mean, it's a huge difference. Like you go to Chicago. It's unreal. You're like, you're jacked. You're like, you're shaking.

And then, yeah, some of them are tough. Well, I think they would consider that the game off. Like we'd like, cause some of the players, they were panning to the bench. There were a couple of players that were talking to themselves and you could tell. It's like, don't laugh. The camera's on me.

Just go. I got to play. It's game one tonight. So I, my buddy sent this while we were playing. The Korea Town senior and community center were rocking the harmonica last night. They announced them back by popular demand. That's right. I heard that live. That is insane. They had played at some point during the season and the place went nuts and I'm sure the Kings won that night and again the Kings won last night so I guess. They're going to be back for sure. Jim Hiller you're like I guess you got it.

Mikey Anderson's going what the hell you know what's going on? Well like I said earlier Jeff Skinner has been in the league for 15 years he's never played in the playoffs his first playoff experience is the harmonicas before puck drop. Did you guys see Montgomery's off-topic but did you see him singing to the song on the bench? Yes during the timeout at the end of the game. It's two one, Monty's up there doing karaoke behind the bench. He was singing behind the bench. I missed that.

We must have been putting together our panel. I loved it. I loved it. I don't know if you know Monty. He's one of Hayes' favorites. I know Monty for 100 years. Look at this, two one. He's just.

He's just. When it's your song, it's your song, man. He's like a savant. That's all I've ever heard. He's a really cerebral coach. I don't know if you've talked to guys that, like, most of the guys love him. Love him. Like he's a player's coach, right?

But really smart. Apparently, he's a bit of a smart-ass too, like really quick-witted and he's got nicknames for guys and stuff, like pretty funny guy. Two one late game. You take a look at what he's done. Two minutes left. Singing behind the bench.

You take a look at what he's done though, okay? Boston dropped, the minute they thought he was the problem, you know, they move him out, Boston does what they do. He goes to St. Louis and they take off. Like he's a hell of a coach. Now you have to have players to go with it, but I think he's done an unbelievable job. I had to vote. He's playing with House Monagher right now.

Yeah. I had to vote the other day on the Adams, the Jack Adams. Like I looked hard at him. Like how can't you? That team seemed like they were gone. They were going to trade everyone. Remember at the headline they were thinking of trading guys. We had Army on, remember Army admitted, we had Doug Armstrong on, he said, two games before, they had two pathways. Like we were looking at-

Coming out of the four nations. We lose these couple games, we might go this way or that way, they ended up winning, and he's like, we kept some players. I think he made that clear. I think he said that coming out of the Four Nations, you guys, you got about five games here to tell me what's up. Because if I have to move off you, I will.

And they came out of the gate really hot. They never slowed down. But now you look at Winnipeg, again, all year, they've just been a consistent juggernaut of a team. That's a big two, I mean, you're up two-nothing going down to St. Louis. That is so significant. Well, now you, in your mind, don't you think you're going in there and go if we can just get one get a split here We bring it home and we're in great shape and we're feeling pretty good

Yeah, you and I were talking off air like this Shifely's found another level Oh, like I don't you know He's a big boy and the goalie the goalie after game one everyone's sort of talking a little bit Yeah, a good game last game. So now it's like you're firing but their depth is their depth is great. Like Adam Lowry, like you look at that third line if it was intact because they've moved players around or whatever. But Lowry, Nita Ryder, Appleton, like that's a hell of a third line. They've got a little bit of everything. You know, Ehlers has been banged up, which is the weirdest injury. He ran into a line. I know, but what was it? What happened there? There was a knee or ankle? I don't

know if it was knee or ankle I thought it was ankle looked like an ankle sprain. I don't think he's gonna play though in this series. Oh he's out. Yeah he's out. Like that's a that's one of the weirdest injuries you've seen where he's just trying to just stretch the play and he runs into the linesman. Could you imagine last game before playoff? Yeah. And they carry him off the ice. You knew it too and he runs into the linesman. Could you imagine, last game before playoff. Yeah. And they carry him off the ice. He knew it too and he's had injury issues over the last few years.

But that team is deep. Their D, it took them a while to arrive. Stanley kid, that kid's an animal. Yeah, that's a heavy, heavy series. Heavy hitting. That was a big hit last night, man. Yeah, well, and again, it's a segue into what we could expect tonight where the Leafs can follow the lead of Winnipeg because the Leafs have done a lot of winning the last month and a half

man. They came into the playoffs I think 13-2 and won the last 16 down the stretch now they won game one like you get that mojo going in the room like you get on a heater you can feel it., yeah. I was always one of those guys, like you have to be feeling good going in. I know everyone's like, oh, it doesn't matter, and like you can turn it in. But I was always one of those guys, individually and as a team, I felt like the teams that you feel like you can feel them rolling into playoffs. I remember the one year when Darryl was coaching LA, it was LA, like they played us in Calgary and we didn't have a chance.

It was a three nothing game. They just smothered us and I'm like, wow, that team, that's trouble. And in St. Louis too, the one year we played them before Berubi came in and they were, we beat them five one. And then the next time we played them, the same thing. And it was just like, these guys are ready to win. Like you can tell.

That's crazy. But you know, you can feel, when you're playing against teams that are in a groove, you have to, like it might take something special that night to knock them out of the groove. If the goalie's that good, if the team is that deep, systematically too, that's the biggest thing too. Like, so if you're Ottawa, and you're looking at a Leaf team

that's been rolling and feels good about their game, if you're on the other side, you've gotta find something to get them off their game or jar that, jar that momentum, jar that, but if you're a team that just continues to roll over, doesn't matter, something bad happens, doesn't matter, keep going, keep going, that's what good teams do, is they deal with some adversity, it doesn't matter, something bad happens, doesn't matter, keep going, keep going. That's what good teams do, is they deal with some adversity, it doesn't matter, we're gonna play this way.

Like that's the interesting part, we had this, we were talking about McDavid, what night was more memorable? McDavid's night last night or Ovi's? And I said, well, it's Ovi's, but if McDavid's night rolls into tomorrow night, and Edmonton ends up having a huge night, you can go, well, it started there and now this guy's gone, like on a roll.

But same thing, you look at the sleeves team, like if there was a list of everything that you wanted to hit the other night, they hit all every marker. Absolutely. The goalie, they got the special teams, they got their star players going, they had their depth players going, the offense from the D which they hadn't had. Lot of positive mojo. Right. Like again, I think them peeking at the right time, them playing the way they did down the

stretch, I think them going into Florida, beating Tampa, and then securing the one seed, like these are all just things, like it's just a different type of process that they're going through. And I think night one, of process that they're going through and I think Night won the fact that they won the fact that you could breathe easy in the third period I'm talking about the team but also the fans, right? You know it it's I think it's very significant and you know the the new guys showed up Stoller's played Well, Ekman, Larson played well lot and played well, but also the star guys who have been here for a long time like there It's not It's not lost on them the pressure and the expectation you know

Matthews and Marner and I think the fact like the fact that Mitch scored in the fashion that he did from Matthews like that's that's a big Joel's man like cuz those guys need it they need to avoid any bad dark past thoughts type of popping into your head just keep it rolling and to be honest that's another reason why tonight's important you know you're like you don't want to you don't want it the series the narrative to change after you had such a great night you don't want it to change so Ottawa got exactly what they wanted a split right on all right right now they're going back home and and they're in the

driver's seat they got home waste advantage like you want to keep all the positive momentum as much as you can and from what I've seen all year is like they don't take their foot off the gas gas pedal very often this team that's what I've seen yeah and I'm sure that's you know the approach that Barube is gonna have tonight and you know I look at what to expect out of Ottawa like it starts with Omar, and we've talked about that a lot the last two days. Like, and there's nothing Travis Green can do.

There's nothing, like his teammates can help him out, right? And like not give up as many great opportunities, especially to the players that they did the other night. Like Arnaud on a breakaway, Nylander right in the slot. Try and play five on five. Yeah, exactly. And smarten up. Don't give up six power plays where you're getting picked apart and it's you know nine seconds in every

power play it's in the back of your neck you're not getting into a groove that you mentioned maybe Ottawa comes with hammock a more experienced defender a guy who kills penalties that types of stuff but there was no groove for Ottawa I think like you said I think they felt they felt maybe comfortable at 2-1, like they felt alright, but they were unable to get to that next level and continue on some momentum. Right. At the minute they got something, they got taken away. 100%.

And you know, Brady Kachuk doesn't kill penalties, right? Right. I don't know if Stutzel kills very often. No. Like Toronto's top guys, Matthews ands and Marner on the ice and they kill They're still getting on the ice and getting out there like it took those penalties took Brady and those guys right out of the game It felt like that's what it felt like I felt like Drew Drew When do you ever see Drew lose those draws clean like he did and that got into his head a little bit that he lost

Two clean ones and they're in his net right right? Exactly, like that's how that started, is one draw, get to middle ice, and that's it. It's in the back of the net. But if you have a 50-50 draw, now you've got to go in and battle for the puck and things take a little second or two to sort out. You have to fight for that puck. There was no fight for that puck. It was a clean draw, on the stick, play, in the back of the net, and away you the head and away you go and coaches always say they always say to you like don't let special teams Affect your five on five play like if you have a rough power player a rough penalty kill

Don't let it affect your overall game But it does that's it like if you go out there and throw one up the middle on the PK and it's in the back You're at your now you're thinking about it like or going you're like oh god Are we got scored on three in a row row like yeah it does affect your overall game so I just think like you said noodles that's a good point like it they got right out of rhythm they were in a little bit of rhythm they started to come a little bit and then they got right out of the rhythm but Toronto did that to them but they also did it to themselves with the lack of discipline yeah that's the thing like the game I

just think it'll be a different game tonight it might be the standard from the ref might be different and they'll have to adjust to that both sides because regardless that we we were talking about yesterday both coaches were politic and in their media you know chief was kinda you know back and hey we're gonna go look at the Greg go talk to the league about really great yeah and and you know what what greening was, we thought they sold a couple things. So that's at the micro level.

The macro level is the GM and the president are screaming at the league going, watch this, and making the league watch these plays. Well, and I think that's important. I would guess Ottawa isn't just looking for it to be even. They're looking for an advantage tonight. Like they're saying, we wouldn't mind six tonight and give the Leafs two or three. That doesn't mean it's gonna play out that way.

And listen, the Leafs can dictate that. How disciplined you play, how often you have the puck, what you do when you're in a situation like that. But the first goal goes without saying is so significant, I think, tonight. And for Ottawa in particular they've got to get on the board because this building is going to erupt tonight again if the Leafs score first. Their record is really I mean it during the regular season I'm quoting it wrong but like 33-6 and whatever when they score first right and not good the other way

the other thing is when Shane Pintointo scores they were like nineteen oh and two others you got the crazy try to shut down chain pinto it's like we're losing simple game policy being in a regional broadcast you you pull nuggets in and stuff like that but you know when you're watching the toronto may please in building your game plan there are certain markers that you have to hit to try and slow things down that'll be the challenge for the senators and vice versa i think think the Leafs are going to have, they might even have a

different approach into tonight's game. All right, game two tonight. Mike Johnson will join us. We'll get Joe Bowen, Jimmy Ralph. We'll get to our best bets later in the hour. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All right, best bets later in the hour. We got four games in the Stanley Cup playoffs, including game two of the Battle of Ontario, Leafs-Tens. And here's a man that's later in the hour we have four games in the stanley cup playoffs including game two of the battle of ontario leafs ends and here's a man is very familiar with the battle of ontario i believe your first play of experience mike johnson with us

was that your first player were you know i don't play with i played in ninety nine with the conference final before we got to autobahn ok i was traded in all all for darcy tuckers as he was down there waving everybody of Ontario So I left a couple months for the first one. So I never played against okay specifically Okay, so you missed that the game the other day now. He's teased a big shooter down there man. You can't bother him He's down there. They gave him the full welcome back. I text him. I go welcome back from what you're in Toronto all the time Welcome back from Etobicoke? Where were you? Where have you been?

But yeah he was they did a great job the other night I said that the game-offs like it was they had Dougie out there they had Darcy they had Rick five they did a really good job with panning the crowd it was just a really really quality night. Could you tell that there was more energy in the building a lot of people do you you played playoffs here recently? I played here a long time ago that the building gets criticized the fans get criticized for not being Excitable enough loud enough into it enough. Could you tell last night? Very different than very different I thought it was one of the best crowds I've experienced down there. That's what I heard and my theory is

Well for starters, it was a Sunday, which is big, long weekend. But my theory is it is about the battle of Ontario. That, like, Gio, you're talking about it like when the Leafs are playing Boston, there's some bad mojo there, man. Like, I think Leaf fans walked into the building past years kind of like racing for impact and like it's Boston again and they're going to get or if it was Tampa it would be different or Florida you have a lot of confidence against Ottawa right like that's just a reality and I think Leaf fans are like I'm embracing something different and I'm embracing

something I'm familiar with it's actually been very successful 20 years ago but still nonetheless could you also said Sunday night so all those Bay Street people who have like, it'll be different tonight. They're wearing jeans and they're like, it's an off night like that. I always felt like and I've been I've been invited by guys who are, you know, venture capital and all of that type. And it's like, hey, we're going to go to this club.

I'm like, I even know there was a restaurant there. Oh, yeah. And all the games on the TV, we're literally having dinner watching it on TV. I'm like, our seats are right there. But I don't sense that, that's not gonna happen tonight, but it is. I hope not, I mean it's- They're working at Bay Street today, right?

Big opportunity for them to carry over what happened the other night. And a lot of the renovations are done down there too. Like the self-service stuff, like, cause that's the new era of technology. Well, you tap your card, you go in and you leave, leave and it just so you can get back to your seat yeah exactly like there's no lines or anything like they are and they have a lot a lot of ranks around the league like that climate pledge

that's all you walk in in seattle it's also serve you just right over to see anybody just walk in it's not the off the wall but i just i don't know i just i did charge a bunch of the other one there that just that that for that or what they're there that just Walk out or whatever. Well, they'll find out when that visa bill comes in you actually got caught now you travel a lot Have you been in the airport ones? Yeah, you tap on the way in. Yeah, just grab whatever you want You don't tap on the way out. That's what this is. Just like okay. That's what this is I walked in I bought popcorn and a diet coke And I left and I'm like, what happened?

You know like you stole it? Until you look at your Visa and there's four hundred and twelve dollars on there. Well that's what's coming like people are gonna file complaints. Like I don't know about that like they're gonna challenge it and it's like dude we saw you we have the video of you walking out with that stuff. Sure you grabbed the popcorn and diet coke. Yeah, diet coke and the popcorn. So tonight, where do you start? Like when you're looking at a game like tonight, do you start with the Leafs? Do you start with the response from different? They don't want to repeat what they did last game. They don't like the result there. So immediately go, will Ottawa not take so many penalties? Because if they, if Ottawa can play 52 minutes of the game at five on five, they'll like their chances better than what they saw in game one. So how do they do that? I don't know if it's

less physical, maybe it's just more disciplined. And then the other part, so that's Ottawa trying to make their adjustments. And the other part for me, and I think Toronto has every reason to be excited. Best players scored goals, power play found the back of the net, things that don't happen easily. One, a game where it wasn't stressful. You live the last, like it's so stressful watching Toronto play in the playoffs. It wasn't game one. But I don't know if John DeVars' line had a good game. And they flipped that, Holmberg's in, Dome is out. The fact that they changed guys halfway through the game, they moved Dome down and Holmberg up, tells you that Craig Brubbe recognized

we weren't loving what we were getting at those guys five on five. And we weren't loving what we were getting from Holmberg and Mcmahon and Robertson at five on on five so my mind kind of goes there if it is played less on the special teams or they don't score the power play what will a five on five play look like for trotter will their best players who didn't get a lot of looks at five of five will they get on tonight yeah i think

that's it's interesting what i i anticipate's looking for, like we were talking about this party coming on, that there's been this focus on five on five, but I think they probably want an advantage in the power place tonight. Like, that's what they're leaning on the league for, right, is flip it and give it 6-3 in our direction. Well, Travis was trying hard, right? He was trying hard.

He was trying hard. You can try anything you want. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's two different refs tonight, you know? That's for human, they heard the clips. Yeah exactly. Two different refs tonight. You know. That's for human they heard the clips. Yeah. You know like if the I'm not saying the penalties were unjustifiably favoring Toronto. Like it was appropriate in game one. But let's just say it was 10-1 in favor of Toronto and you're like what the next game even with different refs you're like probably won't be 10-1 again.

No. Right. Like that's the way human nature works. Yeah. I was telling Gio off air I looked at it's Gordy Dwyer and Pierre Lambert. Gordy's a veteran. That veteran, he's both of them. Veteran guys, they're not going to get overwhelmed by the situation. Like Gio was a captain, he yelled at a lot of refs. Yeah, I always tell the young guys, you want to stay away from yelling at refs when you're young because they carry it for the rest of your career.

Any 50-50 call, it's going against you. You're giving it to them all the time when you're young but yeah for tonight i wonder if greener though the hard match against matthews and get students away from them like i i wonder if you feel that what is it that into line that they would they'd like to get into ideally they got one of you goes out that a little bit harder that

the penalties like ruin their flow last game day i think you could it like he couldn't get there but i wonder if we see that more tonight. It's definitely when they get to Ottawa that's what they're gonna do. Yeah it cost them a lot of ice time too. Their top pair of 15 minutes, 16 minutes, the other or their top line and I would expect you're gonna play your best players in the ground tonight. And those guys don't sniff the PK ever. Like you can't be like oh we're killing a lot of penalties. Right. Let's put Timmy out there. Let's put Brady out there. Like you could with Austin and

Mitch when they didn't do it regularly. Like they were proficient enough, you could keep them in the game as opposed to like, you're going to sit there for six minutes and nothing else. Where those guys, Closeroo takes face-offs and kills penalties, but those two guys, they don't. Then they won't. Yeah. And it's an interesting mix. Like in Toronto, there's no one making their like playoff debuts. You know what I mean? Like the big boys are just they've got a lot of experience where in Ottawa It's different work like Kuchuk and Pinto and Stootsla and Shabbat and Sanderson these guys have no playoff experience and

And I was intrigued by that the other night because you mentioned talking with the refs and like Brady was talking to the ref a lot But Drew was it was constant by Claudeoud would not stop talking with the refs and the linesmen and he was chirping all night. And I thought Perron was doing it as the night went on. I think Cousins might draw in. And you've said this a million times this year. Like they brought in Cousins, they brought in Amadio, they brought in Perron because they've been winners. Giroud hasn't won a cup but he's been around for a long time. Like I'm curious Johnny and we can all go around the table on this. Like would you lean on would you look at it thinking okay Kaczuk, Stuczla, Pinto let's say they got to lead the charge, Cousins playing a second playoff game. Or would you, if you're

green do you think it's more reasonable to expect your veterans to play better than they did in game one? Because they have the experience and they're supposed to. The veteran, I mean it won't matter if, respectfully, I love David Perron, but if David Perron plays a bit better, it's not gonna make them win. What the veterans will be there to do is help guide the younger guys and help them play better. Because the younger guys, the guys you mentioned initially, so it's the Brady, Jake Sanderson, those are the guys that are gonna make them win or lose. What they do in the game, not what Perron or Nick Cousins do or

Claude Giroux. So maybe they can help them stay calm, stay composed, not get riled up with the refs. Although, gee, Claude Giroux, he runs hot. He is a volatile guy on the bench. He is screaming at himself and at the linesman in like not a negative way. He runs hot. The fiery guy. The fiery guy. But I think Travis has to look to his best players and like I got Drake Bathurst was actually very good probably our best player was Bathurst yeah he played well really good season for them like he was a guy you played against him like he's a guy for me skilled but hadn't it all hadn't put it all together I think this

year he put it together because he competes a lot harder on Pucks he can be physical he's fast I don't know what you make of him like he's yeah he I think he scored a hat trick though the one game against this one year I can't remember if it was in Toronto if I was in Calgary but I always looked at him as like a highly skilled guy with a really good shot yeah on the power play especially I found like on that flank he'd come down and rip a couple by you, but I agree. I thought he was their best forward.

You know, I thought their top guys just got put at a rhythm. They just couldn't get there because they were like, when you're used to playing 1920 and then all of a sudden you play 15, it affects you. I went through that in my career at the end, like playing 25, 24 minutes, and then you get cut down right to like 16, 17 minutes. It's like, you're sitting on the bench sometimes, you're like, man, I'm getting cold. Right.

Stop. My last year at St. Louis, I played at all. Same thing, 17, 18 minutes a night to 10, you're like, I'm not even in this game at all. I am strictly a spectator. Like you go to get your legs. I'm a spectator with a good seat. And you hear your coach skipping your line. Yeah, you're like. All right, that's an offensive zone. All right, go give us some energy. I'm like, I got nothing.

I got nothing. There's no energy. Getting pulled off an ozone draw, right? Like, you're used to playing power play all my life and putting up numbers and then you're pulling me off the ozone. Yeah, we got an icing ball here. Leave me out, please. Alright Johnny, we'll catch you on the panel tonight. What do you guys got cooking tonight? This is the game. It's going to be a series that's going to be tight and tense and long, or Toronto's going to win.

Toronto's never had a 2-0 series lead in all the years with these guys. Nine years, whatever it's been. Which is crazy. And so, we'll see I think they're gonna have to if Toronto's going to win they're going to have to win in a tight game feels that way a great guy you know a game that makes them a little uncomfortable which will be a great test and if they can't then they're in it for

the long haul they keep saying they've been learning lessons for a long time they're different we'll find out tonight supply them tonight maybe they're not game two tonight on TSN radio good seeing you Johnny coming in areas Mike Johnson in. There he is, Mike Johnson. Same birthday as Gio. That's why I was remembering. Is that right? Not the same year, but clearly. Not far off, man. Not far off. Mark Giordano sticking around until 7. We'll head down to the rink next. Joe Bowen, Jimmy Ralph coming up to tee up game two. We'll do that next. All right, we'll get to our best bets later in the hour. Game two tonight. Battle of Ontario. Leafs sends right here on TSM radio. It's going to be electric tonight. It was electric the other night. It was some great, great calls. Great calls.

Bonesy, Ralphie. Ralphie left Bonesy hanging. Did you see that the other night? Oh. Yes. So they had, they had, I guess, a camera in the studio. Yes. And on Marner's goal, unbelievable pass, unbelievable goal, Bonesy with just a typical Joe Bowen call, looks over at Ralphie, they make eye contact, Bonesy finishes his call, he looks over, throws his hands up, and Ralphie leaves him hanging. No high five? No high five! And they posted that I think on the May 5th. We gotta get to the bottom of that. Yes, Ralphie owes him tonight. Or maybe, was it the trailer hit? One high five. I think Bonesy would have been happy with that. Although I don't think they were complaining about anything.

It was great. It was a great night, Sunday night. And we carry it over to tonight. Here we go with the boys Joe Bone and Jimmy Ralph. I guess we'll start with you Ralphie. What happened there? How could you leave Bonesy hanging like that? Well, Joe has the camera on his side. there how can you leave bones the hang like that well joe has the camera inside that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that i would love to explain the our strengths that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that high five after every goal or anything i don't know no no no we don't okay i know he's the life i don't know you know these the high five after every

safe it will get out but you had to you had to appreciate the good times where i'll see you make a big stop someone better celebrate that i was the first only to go by the bench after uh... you make a big stop someone better celebrate that is the first goalie to go by the bench after they disallowed that because the games well they didn't really take any longer they just seem bad bad taste that's all absolutely well i mean i guess it's early the

game still doesn't start for another hour but uh... i thought it was a great night the other night and uh... you know here we go tonight what are you guys expecting bones you can take it from here what uh... what do you hope to see at least early tonight while i was out at maple leaf square and i'm absolutely stunned on how many people have caught up in the excitement of bringing up fanny pack through the rake and i think it's a great and they're they've got the picture of you on it and it's a that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that

that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that with the way the crowd reacted. We have been critical of them and they they took it to another level and it was a lot of fun to be a part of. The team fed off of it. There was certainly a lot of physicality in the hockey game and you know the Leafs found a way to get pucks to the net and on the power play it was ridiculous. So everything that Craig Borube has been preaching through the 82 games I think we saw very much

in evidence in the first 60 minutes of this series. Now will Ottawa be better tonight? Yes, absolutely. Will they be more disciplined? Well certainly Travis Green hopes that they will and that will make for a much tighter game and i'm sure that that's what we'll see here this evening uh... ralphie in terms of anthony stole ours making his first uh... playoff start uh... that was another way to talk about checking all the boxes that i

thought he was great the second period was outstanding probably didn't love the first goal he gave up he had it kind of fumbled the rebound but you couldn't couldn't bounce back any better than the way he did. Could you find anything that you could possibly poke at that would make you feel anything but optimistic about what could happen tonight with Stolars? I thought maybe a little bit of nervousness, rebound control in the first period, and that did lead to the first goal against. But that's really trying to go through it with a fine-tooth comb to find anything wrong. I think if you want to look for the turning point of the game and we talked about the power play and everything else but if Brady Kachuk dies

the game on a breakaway in the second period and Ottawa comes back to make it 2-2 you know that that could have changed that could have gone right to the legs of the Senators and Leese Lisa might have been fighting a bit so I think the I've always said that the where the goal tenors become great are guys that may not be a hundred percent on their game it can still be a reason you win it because he battles through so I just thought his his battle there were a couple of shots through screens that he was able to

pick up and kick out as well but I think he's gonna get to pick up and kick out as well but uh... i i think he's uh... he's gonna get better as the playoffs go on as well what did you make of the guy at the other rink at other end of the rink i thought that the still ours that was was really good that uh... you want me to go there for about a while but i was on my way out there uh... not so i think it was uh... i did watch the uh... the highlights of the last game Ottawa played against Carolina

and there were a lot of goals like that where it was just one on one that Olmark got beat. And Udall's, I know you notice this as much as I do, when guys struggle it's butterfly and elbows in and you don't move to where the puck's going, you just hope that your positioning gets you through sort of the opposite of what we were saying about uh... anthony stolar so uh... i think for all mark you know when when he's on his game he's he's moving it you know his positioning is good but he's moving to where the puck's going instead of just trying to get big and

and bring the knees in and the elbows close to the body to uh... take up a lot of space so that that's going to be a key i mean i'm i know his playoff numbers haven't been great but uh... you know we've we've seen him enough throughout his career that he's certainly capable of turning it around absolutely with jim ralph joe bone ahead of game two tonight's uh... lease ends

right here on tsn radio uh... bonesy you've called all their playoff games you know the core foreign and matthews marner neil enter in particular there in the year nine ago the playoffs every single year uh... but man did they show up the other night they all got on the game sheet how significant do you think that is as we roll into game to the fact that not only they want anyone running away but all the big boys showed up and they all contributed the

way that they did well it certainly can't hurt uh... that's for sure i i i think the one thing that we saw in game one was everything that uh... was preached by right for a week through the course of the regular season uh... they were physical uh... the fourth line may have been the best line on the ice in the game.

They spent it almost entirely in the offensive zone. They were taking the body. The defense was physical. When things got pushed to shove at the end of the game, there was no backing down. In fact, it just escalated even more so on the Leaf side. And I think that that has to give them a great deal of confidence and feel a lot better about their game. Now, getting that under their belt early in this series has got to be nothing but beneficial to everyone that is under the gun and under the microscope here in Toronto to get through this and get through a number of rounds So it was a good start for them because if the fourth line had scored all six goals and they hadn't gotten even a sniff Then everybody would have been still focusing on them, right?

So I think that under the under the circumstances it had to be very beneficial for everyone psyche At the way the game went and the way the scoreboard looked at the end of the and the score sheet look at the end of the uh... and the hockey game absolutely and again it was uh... it was a runaway and there were a lot of penalties and at the end of the game got a little bit crazy and you know all of our route for you would assume you know that they know they have to be more disciplined tonight but there's still a young team in the rough against it you know the least get on the board early tonight

all the ones up in the box a couple times in the first period, what are you expecting in terms of the body language? Because I was there on Sunday and I was surprised, they were unraveling, you could see it with Ottawa. Do you think it's as easy as just preaching you can't do that anymore? Or do you think you might see that happen again tonight with Ottawa considering this is kind of uncharted territory for them? Well you know what Hasey, I think the the challenge for Ottawa is stay aggressive without taking the penalties. You don't want all of a sudden say okay we can't go in as hard to the boards, we can't finish our checks, we've got to be more

disciplined and and not be physical and and that's you know something they might have to fight in the first 5 or 10 minutes. But you're talking about regardless how this game goes and I know Hazy and Udos, you'll remember the 93 series between Detroit and Toronto. Red Wings won the first two games in Detroit by blowouts, but the Leafs won every one goal game in that series. Even Detroit won game 6-7-3. So even as this series goes on and the Leafs are every one goal game in that series even Detroit won game six seven three So even you know as this series goes on and the Leafs are expected to be the favorite I mean there it's still gonna be a grind and one of the things I did like And you might expect it but from Craig Ruby and the players they all said to the to a man

It's gonna get harder from now on you expect them to be better and When you saw the postgame clips there was nobody acting like they'd won anything. It was just the first step and hopefully what is going to be a long trail for them. So I think from a Leafs standpoint being able to manage their own emotions and maybe push Ottawa to the point that the frustration starts showing up in different ways. Bonesy, one of your great calls of course was when Darcy Tucker jumped into the bench and Travis Green was the one that instigated that. What's it like calling playoff games with Greenie now behind the bench for

the other team in the Battle of Ontario? Gooch as we used to call him back then. Yeah it is a little different although it's nice to see Daniel Alpherson's face amongst the folks back there too. He had enough to do in these series with the Leafs and Senators back there in the 90s or in the 2000s. It is a little different. But you know what? This team reminds you a lot of that group. The Corsons, the Tuckers, the Domeys, they were physical, they were ornery and they were

nasty and you had Gary Roberts to that mix as well. So this group reminds me a lot of that team in the way it's made up and the the star players are there, but the the the support staff are a miserable bunch of sob's and that's the way they play. And that's exactly what tuckered. Now I wouldn't suggest it's a great idea to jump into the bench and take on all comers uh... that might be a tad bit maybe they better get adam copeland who does that a pop up tapes for the leaves to be the guy to go in there first he's more experienced in the squared circle that they're better handle handle that kind of mayhem but uh... i think i don't think that's a really good idea at any time now i wouldn't suggest it is

uh... and i don't anticipate that happening tonight but anybody ever asked our seat what exactly was going through your mind when you decided to go in there i mean well that i think that's a great question to have rolled in the back of his head is i think you got a five-game suspension for that as i can't which you know today it would be all behind games yeah i think that they've done they if you have a league down some of the uh... absolutely would be very different although although

the cross check of dot to bars yeah i'm not a shout out and you know i did setups and flows depending on what the situation is this i suggest jumping into the bench and try to get at the culture whatever probably not a great i probably not the best idea but that's why they play the games will see what comes of it tonight game two on tsn radio here's joe bowen jim ralph with the call uh... gentlemen have a great one tonight thank you for doing this will do it

again soon thanks but there is uh... bones in ralphie and what's crazy about that clip is that there were some of the coaches for autawa who are not really in getting involved but they were their faces were like close right in the mix to where Tucker was and Green was and you can see like Pat Quinn's thinking if I have to come over there I will come over there and like we had Travis on Travis Green a couple months ago we joked about this clip and so what would happen if that happened tonight?

And he's like, well, I'm not taking on Chief. Like, if Perubia comes over, no, thank you. And I'm sure Jacques Martand would probably say the same thing about Pat Quinn. Well, you look over there and see that head. Pat Quinn, back in the day. That is so big, like he's like a mascot on the other side. Like, Pat Quinn was a massive.

Huge, tough, nails back in the day. mascot yeah on the other side like Pat Quinn was a massive huge tough massive nails back in the day from Hamilton Ontario well you got five games for that yeah I did I think that was that was a regular season game yeah well even the other night I got five with the cross check and then chief doing the five yeah five but his fingers aren't straight. Some of them don't go straight. It looked like a bond villain. Yeah. Standing there like a claw. You're like what is going on? Should we give him a three minute penalty? How many fingers are you holding up? What's going on here? There's one that's sideways. Yeah. What are you asking for? Two and a half half three? What are we supposed to give this guy? And yeah, we'll see I mean Greg. He didn't he didn't skate yesterday

I don't think he was a part of the it was an optional I guess today, but Yeah, I don't know. It said I thought I read Masters tweeted out that Greg and Jensen were game time were available tonight, but like Maybe game time decisions or available tonight, but like maybe game time decisions or didn't skate this morning. So maybe he's coming out, because Jensen's a really good player, one of the really good defensemen,

but he's been hurt, right? He's been hurt down the stretch. And he didn't play very well last game. Well him and Shabbat didn't play well. That pairing struggled. You know, Sanderson is a hell of a player. It just, you know, I didn't think he was able to get anything going either because they were just defending all that like, you know you like you talked about rhythm and there was no rhythm because

He was either on the PK or trying to battle a five-on-five But it'll be interesting to see yeah Jensen and Shabbat didn't have their a games last game, right? And then that bottom pairing Clevens a nice player, he's a long player, young kid. And then that Matt and Paolo. So I would be surprised if, I think Hamminick will come in for Matt and Paolo. So you'll see a young kid with Hamminick, a veteran. With Shabbat, do you think Shabbat will play with Hamminick? No, I think Shabbat and Jensen will play. I think Jensen will play, but it'll be Sanderson, Zube,

Shabbat, Jensen, Cleven with Hammond. That's what I would do. And have Hammond at kill penalties. And it sounds like Nick Cousins will go in tonight. Yeah, and Cousins in for Highmore. That's what I would, unless Greg can't go. Unless for whatever reason, yeah, he gets hurt or something. I mean, Holmberg got him the other night.

We didn't really talk about it, but I mean Holmberg got him the other night we didn't really talk about it but Pontus Holmberg got him yeah and then cousins kind of went after Holmberg and yeah Dylan cousins Dylan cousins I said Nick cousins the other night anyway it doesn't matter but I've said I've done that 25 times I'm like cousins cousins Dylan cousins Nick cousins I'm like it's confusing they don't even spell the name the same way anyway today's best bet powered by Fandel make your picks and assemble a same-game parlay on seconds on the Fandel sportsbook app I'm on a yes a first period goal in the first 10 minutes I think there will be a goal in the first 10 minutes tonight

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