OverDrive - OverDrive - April 24, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! Hockey Hall of Famer and Stanley Cup Champion on the Maple Leafs' playoff dynamic, the Oilers' series plunge and the Kings' elite strengths. The guys discuss the storylines for 2025 NFL Draft, Cam Ward as the number one pick and the Maple Leafs' matchup against the Senators.

Tim's smile cookie is almost here and every bite makes your community every bite better because 100% of proceeds are donated to local charities and community groups. Head to Tim's for smile cookies from April 28 to May 4th. Hour 2 Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score. Brian Haseo, Doug Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, Mccclenin we got chris pronger coming up here in a few moments get his take on game three leaves sense tonight the battle of ontario uh... the lease sir there were there were kind of walking into some uncharted territory here

tonight they have never had a team on the ropes like this you know going into a game three where you're up to nothing and i i am i feel like i can predict what i'm gonna see at Ottawa. That's not that doesn't mean I predict they're gonna win But I you you have to believe they're gonna come out flying Do you think you can predict what you're gonna see out of Ottawa and also at the same time? Fascinated to see to see what I'm gonna get out of the maple leaves Yes, I can't predict what I'm gonna see out of the maple leaves But as much as we we talked it going into game two that I thought how they played in game two and

the outcome of game two would say more about them than any then what happened in game one is there anything you could see tonight from the Maple Leafs where you would look and say maybe it is different yeah I think so if they if they continue to play with the patients that I think they've shown at times where like they seem to be picking up checks well i look at that top line everyone can have a car so i'm an yet you have to get to live if you can't check you're never going to win it seems like right such a stupid little cliche thing that a great coach just tossed out

there but it's so true the matthews and marner conversation i i find uh... really telling in terms of what's happened through two games where they they've contributed especially in the power play in the second or the first game was a beautiful pass by matthews to marner marner scores right like that's world-class talent world-class talent

in the net to nothing the rest is history these two guys killing penalties almost four minutes the other night in penalty kill minutes. They lead the charge. It's not camp, it's Matthew. They come over the boards.

Right. And they are, they're the ones up against the Stoots the line. I got to think Green's going to try to get away from that tonight and certainly try to get away from McCabe and Tann of as much as he can. And I'm sure he'll find opportunities to do that. But I look at the way those guys played in the second and third was not sexy, but also was not cheating, was not trying to do any dipsy doodles and you know head butts in the neutral zone to try to move pucks. That to me is really significant because these guys have done it all offensively, they've

done it all during regular seasons. Now Mitch's hit is a hundred points, Austin's won his hearts, his Rock rockets. Just find, do whatever you have to do to contribute to a win. That's might be the biggest key that you've ever, it's like there's nothing sexy about winning. Exactly. There's the famous story of Wayne Gretzky walking by the New York Islanders dressing room and he thought they'd be hooting and hollering and you know drinking beers and and and cheering and he said he walked, Gretz said this, not me, but he walked by and they all had ice bags on them

and they looked dead and they were sore and they were fatigued. It wasn't, yeah, they paid a price. It wasn't what he thought. And that clicked in his mind maybe and that got transferred to his teammates and it's gotta be different. Exactly and there has been some conversation

within the market about having Matthews and M's got to be different. Exactly. And there has been some conversation within the market about having Matthews and Marner kill that many penalties. I have no issue with it. And I think that you got to continue to do it. Because killing penalties is so significant in the playoffs. And if you trust those two guys to get the job done, you trust them to win a draw or be in the right position, I don't need five on five minutes.

You're going to get those anyway, but I'm not taking them out of that position because that to me shows leadership. It shows an importance to detail. And I think it's important that they continue to kill the way they've been killing. I don't need minutes taken away from them. The other thing too, it keeps them in the rotation.

Yes. So, you know, we, I don't know, Gio was here the other day talking about Stutzla and Kachak don't kill penalties. So you run into some penalty trouble like you're cold on the bench. These guys are in the rotation. And it's also Chief's been playing three, four lines, so you're not having to run those guys 24, 26 minutes. So you're finding them the minutes, I should have checked, but what did they play? What did they play last game?

You know, Marner and Matthews, or what on average have they played in the first two games? I don't think it's 23 minutes. It hasn't been crazy. Now the first game allowed them to do that, because it was a blowout. A little bit more powerful. You get to the third period, you're rolling lines. Yeah, so last game would be more indicative. Yes, but I would be shocked because there was a time on the panel

I was sitting beside you and in Johnny and he said look at the defense How it's split up at one point everybody was like at 12 minutes all six guys. You're like, okay, that's that's how it's been going Up front you have to just find that rhythm and you throw top players out there to kill penalties not just to keep them fresh but they are a threat too. They're good defensively. They're a threat. So like that's why you can give them that ice time but if it's you're not running them 24 to 26 minutes they're still getting their 21, 22 minutes. Right exactly and they're they're they're tougher minutes but they should be. those are the leaders those of the best players for

the highest paid guys yet and it's not about sneaking in five on five shifts or something like that it's you we gotta use you when we need you to help us win yeah and i like that messaging and i i like the consistency in terms of the way berube is utilizing those guys and i would anticipate that continues tonight so we got a bunch of games in the nl this evening we got obviously game two games in the NHL this evening.

We got obviously game two in Battle of Florida, game three Battle of Ontario, got Golden Knights in Minnesota and Winnipeg and St. Louis tonight. And to chat about it, we're joined now by Hockey Hall of Famer Stanley Cup champ, joining us on the Maple Toyota Hotline. There he is. Chris Pronger. What's up, Prongs? Look at this guy. How's team Overdrive? Oh, we're doing very well. Loving life like we do every day, Prongs.

Loving life. As only you can. Absolutely. And we were just talking about Matthews and Marner killing penalties. The amount of minutes they're getting short-handed. And how that's actually been a change. Like prior to Barube showing up, Matthews never used to kill penalties. Marner always did. But it's been a bit like prior to Barube showing up Matthews never used to kill penalties Marner always did but

it's been a bit of a discussion here the idea that maybe you save them for five on five minutes maybe you get them off the PK I like this messaging I like that their place in importance on the specialty teams because they've been winning those battles where do you stand on your best forwards in particular

killing penalties it's not only your best forwards it that your smartest forwards they know what they're trying to do the systems that they're trying to do on and the schemes that they're running on the power play therefore they understand them on the penalty kill they know the lanes to take away you look at uh... steve eiserman and and the years leading up to their success who was killed killing penalties who was diving in front of an out again a

slap shot at c bison and i think i think what she's trying to do is create that identity within this group that that you're watching your star players sacrifice their bodies jump in front of shots doing what they want need and are willing to do to to be successful and that sets a tone in the temple for everybody else feel that obligation yourself as you know captain superstar like if I'm not going

to do it how can we expect everyone else to do it? Where did you stand on that? I love blocking shots. Look who my buddy was. I had to he was terrified. Damn I can't let this go on, Ned. No I, you know what I think, just understanding, keeping them involved in the game, especially if there's one, two, three penalties in a row, if you don't kill penalties you're sitting

there for a long time, you lose the flow of the game, you get a little cold. If you're involved, you're digging deeper into the bench as well, and I heard you talking prior to me coming on about getting equal number of minutes to everybody and things of that nature. Yes, you want to save your star players for key times, but who's to say that those penalty kills aren't the key moments in the game to stop a goal and and as the noodles alluded to be a threat and force the power play to play a little defense when you do get turnovers and stops and you're able to go the other way because you have those dynamic offensive weapons out there

they're able to create and ultimately try to score some goals too. Prongs you know if you're the Ottawa Senators, now going home, you're down to nothing, but it's, you know, it's your building, you feel like, okay, what do we need to do? So what have you seen from the Sens side, or if you're in their shoes, what do you need to do to feel like, okay, we can get back in the series and make it a series on home ice? The games, game one, while it looked like a blowout, in my opinion was a little bit closer of a game

than the actual score. A game two, obviously overtime, could have went either way. Ottawa had some chances too. Ultimately Toronto found a way to win. I think going home, they have to understand they can't start looking big picture. got to really simplify it to keep it simple and worry about that first period worry about second period but in order to be successful they have

to get traffic and they have to get to the middle of the ice Toronto's back end has done a really good job of clearing the front of the net for the most part and and allowing stollers to see if he sees the shot as you know At this level you should stop the puck and and I think Toronto versus Ottawa Your Toronto's been able to really get some great a chance is really able to get inside into the hat inside the hash when you're coming from outside the hash marks, you really only have one area to shoot the puck and and so if you're Ottawa you're

you're trying to get the first goal you're trying to play with the lead for a change trying to play from the front and if you're able to do that use that as momentum for the crowd and build with each excess or shift get that wave after wave mentality get on the forecheck start crashing banging and just kind of let that momentum kind of fall off the the cliff if you will and just start kind of rolling get that snowball rolling down the hill with Chris Pronger we referenced that 07 cup final last segment game three when you're on Anaheim on Anaheim you guys

went in there you're up to nothing so obviously much more amplified cup final compared to the first round, but you've been in the skates of the Leafs going into a scenario like this. So take us through what you think the messaging would be from Baruba and company going into a scenario where you can really lay the hammer on Ottawa tonight. Well, I think they're going to try to keep it simple. They're going to force Ottawa to make the mistakes, whether it's the undisciplined Plan-A-Lees, turnovers at blue lines, errant passes in the middle of the ice, things of that nature, and get on the attack, get on the transition game, and really

create those odd man rushes that they've been able to capitalize on here thus far in the series. Bronx, how much trouble do you think the Edmonton Oilers are in right now? Ooh. Ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho. on here thus far in the series. Bronx, how much trouble do you think the Edmonton Oilers are in right now? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Does that mean a lot? They are in a world of hurt right now. Both games, albeit the first one, they mounted an epic comeback. And that that could have been an all world come from behind win. Instead, it was a painful loss.

And last night's game Wow they they looked really slow outside of Connor McDavid you know a couple other players dry saddle was was doing his best real amateur hours mistakes in their own zone prongs like like awful The turnovers have been egregious they're not getting the stops when they need it and It's Everything everything is just biting them

and La Who have been on fire the last? 1520 games of the regular season are capitalizing on every single mistake it seems like. Skinner has not really come up with very many big stops when they've needed it as Noodle's can attest. It's not how many you make, it's when you make them. And in key critical situations, he's just not coming up with a stop, albeit they are making massive, massive mistakes that are causing a lot of the problems.

And then, outside of that, how they're defending, giving up the middle of the ice, the penalty kill looks lost out there. They're not playing, the penalties they're taking are undisciplined, the Henryks penalty was not smart. And then they're not very physical. We have a laundry list of issues that they need to correct in order to get back into this series. First and foremost, they gotta play with the lead and force LA to get out of their systems and really kind of get them off kilter because as of right now, Edmonton is playing right into their hands.

Look how spread out they are. They're jumping around, trying to force, but they're coming out of position. This is unfortunate bounce right back on because man goes stick, but you know, when you look at Edmonton's power play versus LA's power play, night and day, the way they're moving it around the zone and spreading out the PK and creating scene passes and point shots and things of that nature. Chris, what do you make of the five forward power play? Because LA's doing it, had tremendous success, the Leafs are doing it, tremendous success. Is there something to it? Is there something to having just five forwards out there with creativity?

And brains? Well, brains, all of that. I was going to let that go. But I mean, we are seeing a little bit different thought process because... One of the things I notice here, you look at Kopitar, he's on his strong side, but technically on the power play, that's his off wing. He's not in a one-time position. And what that allows him to do, the angle that he gets when he can move back and forth

with Kuzmenko going behind the net that we saw in game one. That play, they move it back to Kopitar, he moves it up top, they move it across to Kempé and then, no, they move it across to Fiala, up top to Kempé, down low to Kopitar. They're able to move it around, but they can move it around on an angle with which the penalty killer really has to go outside of the lane to try to get there with their sticks and it makes the box move a little bit too much and then he can come inside to a one-timer he can go across the seam to a one-timer they've got a lot of options and and no Brown's are their power play guy who I had in Anaheim and Newell's very forward-thinking you know ran Vancouver had the number one power play a few years ago. Phoenix had a good power play when he there when he was there.

He's really smart at utilizing the weapons that he has and I'm sure they talked when they picked up Kuzmenko. That was probably one of the biggest reasons they picked up that that specific player was for their power play to get a right-handed shot and kind of utilize the skill and the assets of those players. With Chris Pronger ahead of a bunch of games in the Stanley Cup playoffs tonight, the Habs are down 2-0 going back to Montreal. And last night, Patrick Lina did not play a shift in the third period. How would you anticipate Marty St. Louis handles him going into game three? Like I'm presuming he's gonna play, but what is the messaging and what can you expect because that's a guy who's been around for a long time, he's getting paid money

but not seen a shift in the third. He always seems to end up in a position where the coach has got to make a call on do I put a sweater on him or not. Absolutely. Well, at the end of the day in a position where the coaches gotta make a call on do i put a sweater on or not uh... that at the end of the day you're you're asking the player to step up the accountable be be a leader be a presence uh... you know you talk about his contract you talk about what he can provide

from an offensive production standpoint uh... uh... his game has not been great. Game one was soft, and game two he had a couple chances, fanned on a couple chances on the power play, but he's purely a power play specialist. He doesn't create much in five on five play, soft at the red line, getting pucks deep. He's made a lot of mistakes that have cost them. And you just want a little more oomph in his game, a little more sandpaper, a little more grit.

He doesn't need to be out there running guys over and whatnot, but he needs a little more pep in his step. You know, he's got a long, powerful stride that can look lackadaisical at times, which I think can aggravate fans and aggravate people that don't really know how he moves out there. He's actually a pretty decent skater.

He's just got that long, loping stride, but you just want him to get more engaged and more involved and really kind of assert himself in the series and get to the dirtier part. If you're not scoring goals, get to the front of the net. You got the hands, you have the skill, look for a dirty one. And he's got the size, but you know, Prongs,

I was mentioning before he came on in the four o'clock hour, on the road it's a lot tougher, because you've heard this saying you gotta hide players. So Marty's like, I can't put him out there because it might be a mismatch. On home ice, you might be able to find maybe an extra shift or an extra look for him in an offensive zone because you have that lot last change. You have that last opportunity. Is that something that Marty might have to think about?

Much easier. I think, you know, if you're, if you're thinking about the power play, you certainly don't want to sit him. He's been a key focal point for them on that first power play unit. You know at the end of the day he's got to look at his lineup and go who's gonna give us the best chance? Who's gonna sacrifice their body to get the puck out at the blue line or get the puck in at the red line or the or the offensive zone? Who's gonna make the smart play? Who's not gonna make an area pass through traffic when you don't have to? Who's going to just chip it up the wall and play safe and look at the matchups and who you're out there against?

The hockey IQ and the hockey sense that comes into play at this time of year is very critical and very important. Having guys that understand that instead of just throwing caution to the wind every single time they're on the ice with the hopes of scoring a goal sometimes can be more of a detriment than a positive for a team. Is there a bigger indictment on a player when the term we got to try to find a way to hide them comes out of a coach's mouth? Like it just makes me sick saying it. If I was ever in a back room and I heard a coach saying that about me I think I would pass out and throw up like it's We've gotta hide this guy is tough man. It's tough

And now when you're relying on a player to His stature in the league you're like you're counting on him. You have a very young team You're counting on him to step up in this this pressure-packed moment yeah and be a leader and unfortunately you what you do hear that comment you're like you kind of cringe and you know it's so cringe-worthy man hide that guy that is that is tough yeah it's a tough reputation to have I've been hidden in the NHL coaches Coaches have hidden me before.

I can only throw you out there if there's two guys from the AHL that have been called up. I can possibly toss them out. I had a buddy. Off an icing. I had a buddy. I won't tell you who it was, but when it would go to three on three overtime, he was a defenseman and the coach would just go down to the, like look at the defensive coach and go, like just go down to the like look at the defensive coach and go Like just there then no

No Basically, and he knew he was done. That was it like he would just go that guy. No, no, that's it He's done his night is done because I don't want him on the ice in three on three Yeah, and it was it's like god it was tough because Cause he goes, I would, I would see him actually in the peripheral. You could see it. Point to me and go, like that guy, no chance. He can't be on the ice. I would take it to the next level if I was a coach

and just tap them and say, hit the showers. Yeah. Take your skates off. Go sit with the back up. You can untie your skates now. Yeah. You're not playing anymore. Yeah, that's tough. Well, we were talking talking about uh... i don't you saw the video of of marks of

art uh... in game one where he was going nuts for was good idea is that a group they looked at him and basically say you know are you crazy i think it worked ten minutes in a game one here settle down uh... how did you read what were you expecting out your coaches you know behind the bench i guess head coach assistant coaches what did you turn playoff runs in particular yeah

uh... you know i think you have to act as if you've been there before and the game one of the first round probably so you want to get off to a good start but as a assistant coach you may want to keep it uh... keep it the tone down a little bit and not get too fired up. Let the players enjoy the moment, start thinking about what's next. I think as Chief knows, it's a long, hard grind and it's going to take everybody understanding what the process is going to look like, how we need to get there.

They're going to encounter some adversity, whether it's tonight in Ottawa or further down the line, and they're going to need the calming influence of moments where, yes, the highs and the lows have to be here in the middle, and it just needs to be a little ripple. And it starts with the coaching staff, as we know. They set the tone and the tenor for the players. There's countless times where you always come out of the locker room and you have those

meetings where the coach is telling the players, hey, stay off the ref, stay off the ref, let me deal with it. Within the first second, if there's an offside call, they're screaming and yelling at the officials and the lights. Chaos ensues on the bench. He's a very calming influence back there and he tries to stay. You don't see him yelling at the refs much. You see him talking. As an assistant coach, he was the exact same way. Pretty quiet and reserved back there. When he spoke, you were paying attention and listening and I know he's that same way as a head coach wrongs you should

hear always got a story about Pat Quinn about yelling at the rest yeah I had a big meeting with us and he was like guys you got to stop yelling at the refs getting out of hand he didn't like this is the opening face off. He didn't like the way the ref dropped the puck and he goes, you're a coward. He didn't wait three seconds. Just yelled at the top of his lungs, damn it, you're a coward. And I was thinking to myself, cause I didn't know, I was new to the team and I'm like, is this guy for real? Got to tone it down. He just gave us a discipline. Don't yell at the refs because we all gotta stetl it down

Tone it down Half of a second he went nuts. Danny O'Halloran. Yeah Bad puck drop O'Halloran you're a coward Yeah, it'd be like Jimmy Roberts who'd just be spitting sunflower seeds all over everybody's back. Oh really? Like the guys would come off the bench they have sunflower seeds all over their nameplate. I wouldn't have any time for that man. That would be trouble. Well he just... God forbid somebody was in the penalty box.

If I was in the penalty box he'd be like i'll your up in somebody in a go that get prior there is always a bronze al prongs in the belly box prongs and mule are alan mule europe like the he was just he was a beauty back there and it was pretty final but i don't know which is not flour see reki li he was just he was a beauty back there and it was pretty final well done well which is not a lot of our cd

yet some policies everywhere pronged you're going to be lying com you're a uh... don't play the hits man uh... top forty as a guy like there's nothing wrong with that play the hits there was no spreading out the minutes back then now this get the big boys out let's see how it happens

See what happens here. All right prongs great catching up with you buddy. Good seeing you. Enjoy the games tonight We'll do it again soon. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck to you guys. Joy. Have fun. We will there He is Chris Pronger joining us here on the Maple Toyota hotline drive the built-in Canada fuel-efficient fun to drive Toyota Rav4 gas or hybrid models available visit MapleToyota.com and and Chris would have had uh Barube when he was in Philly I guess so yeah long history and obviously Barube played in the league for a long time when prongs was in the league there's not you know like Barube is a lifer man he's been in the league for 40 years like it's it's weird you look at that that Leafs coaching staff I played with all three of them. Mike Van Ryn in Florida, Mark Savard in Calgary,

and Chief in Calgary. But you know, like I've known them for years. It's weird to look at them, they look different. Now we all look older and heavier. And all that type of stuff. Oh, everyone's got a little bit more heat on them, that's for sure. But.

Dude, I'll tell you what, I had a great comparison for you. Like, Boston Pizza had to go there, and they posted the Brad Pitt pic you know the one oh they on the court side yeah that is your Brad yeah that's your Brad Pitt moment you look dine it you look like a model and then another guy posted the pic with a colorful striped shirt on and you had your hand like this and you were just yelling it was the first day of DSN radio yeah dude the comparison of those two picks it's crazy I it honestly looks like it's it's AI

it's like typing in the AI make this buffoon look like a model I know because I've seen other picks come in like it's the beauty of social media like good pick we're gonna drag you right back to reality here yeah because I've seen the day one pick I've seen I went in for a photo shoot with that the one with the black it's at the war like shirt yes I like you just your neck is going I'll never forget the face of Renee she used to work here she used to run the PR I remember yeah Renee Rouse yeah unbelievable woman great colleague of ours and she set this up she's like I need you to come down

Yeah, and I I remember walking in and she's like are you wearing that and I'm like yes Yes, and she's like, okay I guess like she assumed I was just there and then I was you have to know you have to know that if someone says Are you wearing that you got to go with some he's horr something. She was horrified. Is it the black? Yeah it was black on black. I was at the worst of the worst. You look like a WWE wrestler. I look like one I look like part of a tag team. I haven't seen this picture. Oh you see it. It's the worst picture ever taken him. He kicks ass and takes names. I'm a jobber. There it is. This is the pic I had no shave. It was it was what? We gotta have like quote clips on I walked in I was we're down on Queen Street

Dude, I want that I want that guy to get in a minivan and drive to Ottawa Give the least of free game speech. I need you get them fired up. I need to channel that guy again I'm going to angry in that it was the weirdest photo shoot ever was down on Queen and I walk in and Renee goes Okay, you're right. You were gonna wear that like it was like that one of those It was someone says are you gonna wear that that is the was like that. One of those. And when someone says, are you going to wear that? That is the biggest red flag ever. That means you've got to go back home and come back. I should have rescheduled right then and said, actually I forgot. I was here for courtesy purposes. When you do the Jay show, the Jay show has you in this skinny little like you, you look like, like you're

part of that. There was a band called the Stray Cats, Brian Setzer, like you kind of have this weird, like big hair. I don weird I don't I said that like the stuff they use for me and Jay I don't think that's my pick I don't think it's my body no it's I don't think it's my hair yeah I think they put like a different hairdo on top yeah cuz you've got a gut that's the way you should do your hair your hair looks good in that pic I know it's not mine that's what we got to find that Jay show picture cuz every time I see it it's a little bit off-putting like that's not that that guy that is you that's your tie oh but they yeah that's me yeah that but they thin it out it looks like they show the body looks better in jay's jay's stuff

it's black and white too which helps when i do shirt pick to that pick right there that it's night and day a i that's a i yeah i know when that that's cat fishing when i go on the show catfish man tied tail if i haha if i was single i would post the latter pick and i showed up with the black on black the woman would say yeah i'm not doing that even catfish as you got fish you do it when dial uber she called my one she would have me arrested it that's what you would have to say I need this guy tracked. Yeah RCMP You know that bastard you were looking for downtown with the black shirt on There's some guy walking around setting up dates. Yeah, and he's bothering people and he needs to be traced

Yeah, they would have a tracer on me. Yeah. Yeah Question literally like they with the J show show They had me it's a great look they do that tasteful nudes or whatever when I'm on Yeah, they put like a a see-through shirt with like a muscle guy on it. It's not me Yeah, I know awkward when it comes up. I don't I don't I it's just a weird like I love I love how they operate I love them, but I love Jay's show with your mind when you're like sitting there going that's not me I know then they go hey Let's go to noodles like and then they go then they pan to you Yeah, and you're just sitting there you look exactly nothing like the end of the night. You're exhausted. I hear you man

Anyway, yeah, listen We're all growns up now Everyone's looking good. I'm not picture before my life. Well, I would prefer if it was burned forever That is because there's not much you can do about it now It's out there and it's because we had you know Well, I would prefer if it was burned forever. That is so nice. Because there's not much you can do about it now. It's out there and it's, because we had, you know, the Boston pizza people were in here talking about the wing eating,

because you look great in the wing. And that was, you had just kind of retired. You still had your A game. When Andrew Perrone was in here. Yeah, I remember Andrew, we subjected Andrea to having to eat wings. Did you eat some of that? Or no?

Dude, it was the worst couple, I had a bad couple hours because I have zero spice tolerance and I thought I'd be a hero. Yeah. And rubbed my eye with all there was sauce on my hand Yeah, you're done. Did my eyeball felt like it was gonna blow out of my sock. That's right. That's right We used to have weird props look at that. There's my pick on See that's that's that's the greatest pick of me ever That is that would be on every that will be my profile pick on anything right? That's. That's not me though. Like it is me but it's not me. But I don't care. I

would make that my profile pic on every social media website. Like that's smoky man. That is a vibe. But you look like a singer in the eight seventies or eights. Like that's a... That guy in the black shirt, that's a pig farmer from Wisconsin who does arm wrestling contests. He's a monster. He's gonna be at the draft tonight. He's a pig farmer from Wisconsin who does arm wrestling contest. You're right. He's a monster. He's gonna be at the draft tonight. He's a bar fighter. Yeah. He'll be causing problems at the draft tonight. I want a Laramie console. Okay we'll come back and discuss that. What could we see at the NFL draft tonight? Catch you on the panel tonight. Leafs sends game three. Overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. All right don't forget

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and overdrive between four and seven p.m. The overdrive between 7 and or 4 and 7 p.m. The more times you listen the better your chances of winning before each home game first up will be calling one devoted fan with a pair of tickets full details at TSM 1050 dot CA I'm so disappointed that the NFL draft is tonight because it it's going up against the Leaf game, right? And I'll be watching the Leaf game, but I'll have one eye on the draft. And this is a big night for, I think, order in Boston pizza and make sure you get the laptop cooking, maybe the iPad, the iPhone, make sure you got the TV.

Massive multiple screen night, because you don't want to miss a Laramie Tunsel moment tonight. You don't want to miss a guy with his two phones and the girlfriend tries to grab one and then he goes like the ninja grab. Who was that? It was CD Lamb I believe. That's right. He had the two phones and the bat line was sitting there and she grabbed it and he almost broke her wrist grabbing it. His hand extended so quickly. That's why he's a superstar because he's got instincts

like that. Like I knew that second I'm like CD Lamb's gonna be an all-time great wide receiver. And he is. And he's not with that girl anymore, I guarantee. I would assume, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's probably true, what you just stated there. Young guy. But the draft, like remember, it was always a Radio City musical in New York.

And it was very tailored to the New York market. You knew when the Giants were on the clock, the Jets were on the clock. There wasn't a lot of room for fandom. Every fan base might have been represented with a few people here or there. They've been taking it on the road now for a while, and I think they've hit a grand slam. Absolutely. The fan base, like I remember it was in Philly not that long ago. Yes. It was just incredible. Insane. Like 250,000 people there for the draft. fan base like i remember it was in philly not that long yes it was just incredible insane

like two hundred fifty thousand people there for the draft they make they make such a a big event exactly it's an event yes i i love it i just do you remember art like we had material for weeks that larry me tens tons of never seen anybody that's what i'm saying we're never going to see anything

that ridiculous because it was the video, then there was some text released about him asking for money. When he was at Ole Miss. Yeah. Outing him, even though he had left the school. So it hadn't mattered. It was a hit piece on him.

Yeah, it really was. And he dropped, wasn't he supposed to be third and dropped to like 15 or something. There was chatter that he might go first overall. Like he was the best offensive tackle in the draft. Yeah. And he dropped down to 11, 13. Miami took him at 11.

Yeah, but you're right. He was certainly good. He was a hundred percent a top five talent. And to his credit, there it is. I get you. Look how happy this guy is getting out of that mask. And to his credit, he's had a great, great career. Like he's in Houston now and he's made a fortune

and he does a great job protecting quarterbacks. He's still playing left tackle in the NFL. So it did not derail his career. No, but that was a speed bump. Like that was a bump. That was really strange, man. Cause it was, what was that? Like a, was that a decade ago now?

Maybe not that long ago, seven or eight years anyway. And it was a different era. like now even like marijuana and the way people approach it now is very different legalized in a lot of different places but back then it was yeah 2016 almost ten years ago it's just so different you're right like life is different but that was like the internet was really getting like this is he was cooking back then. Exactly, like nowadays, you could do, you'd be able to find out who leaked that. Like I don't, apparently, again,

I didn't follow up on the story and I shouldn't speak out of it. Like stepdad or something like that. But it wasn't a stepdad or something, yeah. Who was bent out of shape. But now you would be able to know exactly what's going on, how it unfolded, all of that. There would be multiple angles of him.

Absolutely. Yeah, what the, whatever that was, some sort of gas mask on. That was quite the contraption, man. You want to be in space like that. That is an old school stoner that put that thing together. Yeah. That put this mask on. Oh, you'll find the most creative people on earth, stoners that want to find a way to

really get stoned really quickly. They don't contribute anything else to society. Yeah, but they can make a contraption out of an apple give them 20 minutes and they'll be like I'll cook something up here Give me 20 minutes Laramie. I'll make sure that MacGyver all the stuff. I'll send you to the moon and back very quickly yeah, but yeah the draft in Green Bay tonight and It's just it's a great event because the nfl it's left us for a while right like you the super bowl happens mid-feb and then that's about it you know especially up here because we're focused on stanley cup playoffs and

you know the rafters were coming down the stretch in the blue jays and it's just a bomber that the leafs are playing tonight uh... for for my standpoint i'm speaking selfishly right because i i will make i will be watching the hockey game but i love the nfl draft it's such a great event and it sounds like can words can go first quarterback tennessee and then at that point the board opens up that they don't see what ends up happening you're saying the other day like there's not as many blue chip

right now i mean they can end up being stars but there's not like you know i top three that people that teams have tanked for been fighting over time now and especially in generally speaking like the tanking is like, you know, a top three that people that teams have tanked for been fighting over type No, and especially in generally speaking, like the tanking is it's it's for quarterback, right? You know, like that's what that's what you would do it for is a quarterback, you're not gonna, you know, this this travel, Travis Hunter kid is an all world talent out of Colorado and the Abdul Carter is an edge rusher from Penn State, very good players, great players, great talents. But you don't you don't tank

wide receiver right in our corner back you take for or or a corner back you tank for a quarterback right and generally speaking a draft is defined by the quarterbacks of the draft right and we'll see what can more becomes should or sanders and others but you're right though there'll be someone that gets picked this weekend in the sixth round that will go to the hall of Fame. Right. But as of right now, no one knows who it is. And he plays at Eastern Michigan and no one's paying attention. And

that guy will be the pick of the draft. And we will go, how the hell, how did he draw us from now? People will go, why did that? Why was he available? And this guy's a dumb and you'll hear the reaction from the analysts like Mel Kuyper or someone will be like don't like this pick Yeah, you know bad feet work don't you know I'm blah blah blah and that guy will be in the Hall of Fame Brady too slow awkward Absolutely all of their decent arm, you know, he's good backup. I like that pick next thing You know, he's the greatest player to ever play the game. That's what they were saying Oh, right his play one the sixth round. Yeah, but I but like his scouting report was like awkward can't run not fast Not a lot of lettuce and whatsoever. None crazy zero athleticism

Yeah, which really never changed like it was an accurate assessment, but it speaks to how focused I think sports teams get into The the combines right you see it with you see with every every sport. I didn't bench this, he ran a 40 here, I didn't love this, I didn't like the interview, you know, whatever it is. And there's different things you have to do to check guys on or off your list.

But really it should be about the game tape. Like it should be, is that guy smart enough to play and do you trust, in Brady's case, does he have a good arm? Yes, is he smart? Yes, okay, he's got a good chance? Yes. Is he smart? Yes. Okay. He's got a good chance. Right, right. No one saw this coming, clearly, but it happens in every sport where you just, you get overthinking

it and it's, well, I'm going to take this guy because man, you see how he's built. Okay, go watch the tape. Yeah. That can't play. That's what I'm saying. Like he, go watch the tape. The guy can't play. But there's, that's what happens though is, and it happens in every sport like you said

where a person can be a physical specimen but they may not have the drive train, like the actual smarts or the instincts or whatever that you need to be elite. You've got the package, they always talk about the toolbox but they, there's nothing in there to drive it type of thing. All the tools but no toolbox. You see it in hockey. When I talk to scouts all the time and I'll say, how is that guy not a 40 goal scorer? And they're like, can't think the game.

Doesn't know where to go on the ice. Like, tunnel vision. And you go, okay, that makes sense. Because he's a habitual 20 goal scorer that you're like, that guy should score 40 in his sleep. Like, doesn't know where to go on the ice. Or not good defensively, or can't, you know, like it's, a lot of it comes with,

and then you, conversely, I think of a guy like Sam Reinhardt, who's not a burner, but he's so smart. He knows where to go. He scored a goal the other night against Tampa, where he beat Headman off the wall, but he was in a perfect position to receive a pass. He just redirected in the net. And it was like, it's not about speed,

it's not about winning that physical battle, it's about being exactly where to be so that he could receive that pass. It was just a perfect play. Like that's, it's the brain. Exactly, and you're not gonna see that in the weight room. No, you can't. You can't find that in an interview room.

Yeah. You got to have it. You either have it or you don't have it. And over time, the cream and the crop, you know, it's always going to rise. I agree. All right, Pierre Lebrun will join us. I believe Pierre was in Colorado for game three last night.

Yeah, he's been covering the whole series. And that was cool. Lannis Gogh returning last night. Amazing. He didn't look out of place. He looked physical and he was skating. And like, that's the first one. He's running on adrenaline.

I'm curious to see what it looks like now. Yeah. You know, beyond that. Yeah, exactly. Like if, and if he plays well though, he's going to move up the lineup. They're going to use them more. And just an incredible story to see him rejoin his team.

First time, you know, over000 days. Crazy. Yeah it's incredible so we'll catch up with Pierre on that and more still to come in about 20 minutes and we're teeing up game three of the Battle of Ontario Leafs-Sends tonight overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. Alright, Peele LeBron coming up in about 15 minutes Leafs-Sends tonight game three I am curious to see you know what the crowd looks like tonight I think if you're an a Senator fan you've been waiting for this for a long time and you know listen the Battle of Ontario it's a cool night it's a it's it's you're gonna see Lee fans in there it's gonna be an electric building I

think I'm hoping for a great game yeah I hope so too you know the game a couple nights ago was it turned out to be an event because it goes to overtime whenever you have an OT winner, it's a great game. Like it's a memorable moment. And Max Domi had that. Tyler Sagan had it last night. There's been OT winners here early into the playoffs that are obviously gonna allow you to look back on it

and say, okay, I remember that happening. I remember how it played out. But I'd love to see just a barn burner tonight. Like just a back and forth-forth lead changes crazy game. Give me a 5-4 like wild show. I mean I don't... That's what I want. I'm not waiting for it but I want to see that. I would openly admit this. Every time I think, oh that's for sure, this is gonna happen. It's like not even close like i would have thought the guy thought colorado is going to win last night in i thought edmonton was

going to win last night just based on hey they got a bit of a scare game one hey let's really hit the ground running game to not the fact office renault and halfway through the end and you're just so i i look at i thought montreal was gonna and then i'm watching their chances in the third again, man. Jay Evans hit the post and Anderson. Here's the thing, though, that game's not even close.

If Montembeau doesn't stand right, it was unbelievable. Yeah, he was. So like Washington might just be too powerful right now. Like just it might be a little bit overwhelmed. But let's see what happens on the road in Montreal. I get some other changes. Be to me there has to be adjustments from Montreal to

Find a way to get that lead now they score first but they give up two quick ones right away And now you're chasing the game So I just I look at some of the adjustments that need to be done throughout the league I'm I'm interested to see okay in my mind. Here's what I'm thinking Tampa has a response tonight. Yes. We haven't even talked about that series because. They've only played one game.

I know, but those are two heavy hitter teams that if the Leafs get through, that's waiting for you. Well, Tampa was out to lunch in game one and Florida was really good. I'm expecting Tampa to have a massive comeback tonight or a massive game, but if Florida spanks them again you're like okay I didn't call that. That's what we, me, not we, but that's what I'm thinking.

Tampa has a response tonight in my mind. Yeah and if it stays consistent with what's happened so far they won't. Right, that's what I mean. Like okay then it'll be two nothing Florida. Which if it does, I mean that feels like curtains. Like it feels like a must win for Tampa tonight. I get their championship pedigree and all that. And there's been some weird moments in the past

where teams have lost two at home and then gone on the road and won two. Yeah, it can happen. But it just, it's more about the opponent where you look at Florida, you allow them to gain that type of confidence. And Bob looks good in net and everyone's healthy. And Ech Blad back for game three. I would not feel good about that. It feels like a

must win for Tampa tonight. Yeah. And yeah, I would expect I mean it goes without saying you expect a much better effort. Well, they better start. They were no good like no good in their own zone. Vasilevsky didn't play well. You know, their power play wasn't good. Kucherov didn't look sharp like they're just the spine of their team just didn't play well you know their power play wasn't good Kuturov didn't look sharp like it just the spine of their team just didn't have it that night right so they need a response tonight but that one I mean I'm horse eyeing that one because I think those are two great game tonight I want starts does it start early is that a 630 start? It is a 630 start. I thought that was your New Jersey and no they're getting the New Jersey Carolina treatment tonight the Battle the Battle of Ontario. Okay. Or Battle of Florida. Yeah. Because I guess down

in the States you got you got 630 Panthers, Lightning, 9 p.m. Golden Knights and Mini. You can't play them at 11 p.m. Central time anymore. I don't like... I'll be honest, the 7 p.m. start, not loving it for this Toronto, Ottawa, selfishly. Yeah, because we gotta get home. I know. 7.30 the other day was perfect. Perfect. I told you it was perfect. I was in the building by 7.25. I get rattled a little bit because now you're.

I do too. You're Russian and I wanna be. I don't wanna miss a thing. Exactly. Don't wanna miss a thing. That's the way I see it. All right, we'll continue to tee it up in the final hour. We've got Stu Johnston coming up,

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