OverDrive - OverDrive - April 3, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Frank Corrado for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' victory against the Panthers, Mitch Marner's excellent performance to lead the team and Anth...ony Stolarz's role in the crease. They also discuss the fight between Connor McMichael and Jalen Chatfield and TSN Canadiens Broadcaster Bryan Mudryk joins to discuss the Canadiens' season turnaround, the pursuit of the playoffs and Nick Suzuki's incredible season.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 after home smart speaker and up on t s and for brian hazeo dot jeff o'neill frankie carado chesco as they call them what's up always how we do it just go carado with the pro athletes salute to begin the program very respected very respected and the salute is going around the globe i think i've seen it in other places is that right is that right it's a nice way to get things started i do think it's a pretty good icebreaker
Starting point is 00:01:16 i'll give you that i think you guys should both be proud and uh... it's great to see both of you beautiful weather out there someone told me dot the is golfing today so that's nice to hear that j you. Beautiful weather out there. Someone told me Duffy is golfing today. So that's nice to hear that JD's gonna get out there and do that. This guy went out to some place called Norwood. Norwood Golf and Country Club. And it was kind of not that nice.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It only got nice around 1130 or something and it just like kind of popped out of the sky. And it was instantly boiling. But it was not nice this morning it was beautiful in the afternoon though yeah guys it's a three club win so you haven't played you're playing a free club win you got mud on your ball there's ponds in the middle of the fairway guaranteed yeah you're is hitting it into some kind of casual water of goon buddies that I don know, it's like an underground society. They look for tee times when you shouldn't be golfing.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Duthie's clang to fame is he had the best round of his life and there was snow on the course. Hamilton, dude, he shot 72. Yeah, I know. He still talks about it. And he said, he calls himself Winter Tiger. Winter Tiger. And he shot 72 in a snowstorm he said
Starting point is 00:02:27 and this guy and his friends they just run around and they play golf he said he called his body this morning goes look man there's snow on my lawn we're not doing this today he wrote back we're all good we're good to go i'll see you there any drove out to knob wood or whatever the hell it's called incredible man and and that's it if you're a part of Fight Club Like if you're part of a secret society and you get your own you have to go or you're cut out And I will say the range by me the outdoor range there were guys out there
Starting point is 00:02:54 Absolutely slashing golf balls around some guys with jeans on yes when I Ranged is open no not my range I wish it was but there's a place just around the corner for me an an outdoor range with the mats. This guy, he's a great guy, the guy that owns it. He, he, he forgets that I go there every April. Like that's my play, right? Like, cause he, he, it opens two or three weeks before my place opens or anywhere else opens and it's a local spot, great spot. And the mats that they use are just destroyed. Like these things are, it's like you're hitting off cement effectively
Starting point is 00:03:30 and they're torched up and they're cut up and every single year, and I guarantee you this will happen, I might try to get there tomorrow. I walk in, he forgets it's me and he goes, we got the new ones on order, they should be here any day now. Just use these mats until the new ones come in has been saying that to me for
Starting point is 00:03:46 five years they're common and i get a service do you think you're going to get tomorrow when this guy hears about it well that's a good point i might i might not be able to show my face i go into an outhouse and pick up a mat off the floor and i don't know exactly where you're hitting balls you know he's gonna go we actually have a little patch of grass for you today brian just follow me right over here. A little sinkhole, I disappear, you never hear from me again. If you don't hear from me again, you know where I am. Send a smoke screen out. You know where I am. There was a horror show today, Justin Rose, and before, we could show the, whenever Joe
Starting point is 00:04:19 gets the Justin Rose, but Hazy, you sent me something that gives me the heebie-jeebies. And before we go to break in the first break, to celebrate the Masters coming up, we have to watch Ernesto Ells put some Edward Scissorhands claws on and 7-putt the first green. Why would you watch that? It's thickening. Hey sent it to me the other day and I'm like, I had just watched it a week before. It is the most frightening thing. He must have wanted to just run up like right to the club. There's Justin Rose, man. That guy just skankballed one.
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's gone, man. That's an unbelievable shank. Yeah, that is... Unbelievable. That is... You have to drop your club. You have to in a scenario like that to make everyone aware that you know it was a shank yeah that that is believable that is you have to drop your club you have to in a scenario like that to make everyone aware that you like some guy some guy in a farm blew a horn or something and you start yelling at like yeah you got to blame someone for that but yeah we'll play the Ernie
Starting point is 00:05:17 else no don't I don't want to see that I think it's that's a guy for next week I think it's that's a tone because you know what the scary thing is I think it's that's a guy for next week. I think it's that's a tone because you know what the scary thing is I think he might have come back and shot like 79 he was two over the rest of the round. Yeah, this guy how he did that I have no idea one of the great individual feats in sports history is Ernie Els Yeah doing that after that first hole put up. I would have I would have asked them Hey, do you mind can we put a plaque up because as goofy as that was you kept it together man? And we want to honor that absolutely if anyone was gonna keep it together though. It would have been Ernie
Starting point is 00:05:55 Big easy. Yeah, I will shake it off meanwhile. He probably wanted to throw his club every which way He did not want to putt again. I guarantee that but yeah, Porter a guy who he's a reporter I think he works for and he's got his own shop anyway he used to work for CBS he posted recently like the worst score for each hole at Augusta National and Ernie naturally holds it for what he was a nine it's a par four he took a nine he seven putted the guy on two who owns the record he put up a ten it's a par five david devol owns that record he had a 10 pack on two at augusta well anyway rip one left and hit it oh yeah it must have been ob ret and then he just started shaking from there but maybe we'll get to that list a little bit later on we got a lot to get
Starting point is 00:06:41 to today we got brian mudra coming up right we We got the Habs in action. The Habs are fighting it and we'll catch up with Muddy a little bit later in the hour. And the Leafs coming off. I thought a very impressive win and a very significant win and one that they absolutely needed. Like everyone collectively said before the game, Barkov's out which we heard five minutes before puck drop. Kachuk is out, as we know. Ekblad's out. You're at home. You've been 0-2 against this team this year. You got to get them, and more importantly, you got to get them in regulation. And that's exactly what they did last night.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Well, let me chime in with some comments that I received, bebopping around town today. What I got was this. Great win, but does eat but it was almost like people that are fans of the team were wondering if it even counted because of the guys they did not stop it and i'm just not i had to say to them i didn't want to sound like i was big leading them or anything i'm like i'm sorry that's just not the way it works in that week or whatever the opposition dresses you gotta go out there and try to win the game and they did
Starting point is 00:07:42 and i think it was impressive the way that they did it no matter what that florida they're a championship caliber team. They've been in the cup final two years in a row. They know how to play without a starting goalie, Matthew Kachak, Barkov. Other guys step up. That's how you win championships. They're not just going to say, oh, here's two points. They played a hell of a game last night without their best players.
Starting point is 00:08:03 End of the story. Yeah, I was impressed by Florida last night. But was impressed with the leaves did some really good things there it was like if they can bottle some of the things up last night the one i told you yesterday haze and i documented i had to chart some stuff for my next pregame but their ability to get to the inside of the ice on the four check mitch barners goal it seemed like in the past against the florida panthers it would be like mush uh...
Starting point is 00:08:27 mitch gets pushed to the outside it's like he's pushed to the outside he's never in around the net there was right in the slot and rip home the game winning goal well i mean press of stuff austin matthews tippin pucks in front of the net matthew nines bullying his way on a breakaway were in the past that might have been a turn up by somebody else it was like board play was pretty solid tan ebbs and the Carlos of the world were solid and the big guys showed up They needed a goal and they got it done a lot of positives from last night in the grand scheme of things now They're made they made the playoffs. So that's gonna be nine consecutive years for them. You beat the Panthers
Starting point is 00:09:00 You needed to get a win. You needed your big boys to show up So it's hard to show up today and dump on the team. But you know, like you talk about getting to the middle of the ice, do it when Barkov is playing. Do it when Kuchuk is playing. Like I think those are still valid points to bring up coming off a game like that. And the thing about the Panthers is, you know, to your point, Jeff, they check extremely well. And that's a game where like when they're checking you and they're always in your way, that's where the Leafs may have tried something a little more high risk or, you know, say
Starting point is 00:09:32 like we got to push it right now. We got to win the game. And they didn't do that. Like they were patient, but still aggressive in the right ways, got their opportunities and found a way to win. So that's great. But now like next step, do it when Barkov, do it when Kachuk, do it when Ekblad and those guys are in the lineup and now you're in business. Absolutely. That's a great point. Like you can't say, oh that game shouldn't even have
Starting point is 00:09:52 counted last night, but what you could say at the end of it is it's going to be that much harder because they're going to be that much better of a team when those guys come back. So can you continue to elevate? And that's the thing guys, I don't know if you noticed it last line, it was like a good quality team even without those players. Every single little battle was contested. It was like Florida does not, and they've probably learned that going through their battles and winning a championship. It's like you can't take a little scrum off a puck battle on the yellow anywhere. It's like, cause they know it can make a difference in a game and you see the Leafs in the past they've had like oh do you remember that play
Starting point is 00:10:30 that Matthews and Marner were playing hacky sack against Florida in their own zone and it was like goofy time and it ended up in the back of their net those type of plays the Florida Panthers would never ever do so it's like every single play and you've got to do it for four wins against a team like that that's what we're talking about and that's going to be the test the Leafs have. They always seem to get it to a game seven against good Bruins teams but they fall short. Like are they finally ready to accept what it takes to do that and last night wasn't the be all and end all
Starting point is 00:11:01 other boat it's a nice start going into really critical time. Yeah like we're still in the regular season there's nothing you can do to project exactly what's going to happen come playoff time all you can do is play the games you're supposed to play you got to wrap up the season and last night was significant and I think there's two examples of that in the last week the game in LA last week which finished 3-1 the one last night that finished 3-2 like tight checking last night that finished 3-2, like tight checking, tough, kind of championship built teams that the Leafs found a way to prevail.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And I think it was a very similar storyline because there's always thin margins that can flip the mood and the reaction to a game. I thought the Matthews line in the second period was horrendous. Like they got caved in, they were awful. Like they were, they brought nothing to the table in terms of pushing play of anything. I thought they were on their heels and in their zone and just trying to get to the bench basically throughout the period. And it was kind of similar to that in LA where like the first two
Starting point is 00:11:58 periods they were okay, not great. And then in the third period in LA, Matthews and Marner with Knives said, we're taking this game over. And that's exactly what happened last night. And I think that's significant that the leaders and the best players were the ones to do that last night. And like Matthews, I thought was great. Marner with, you make a good point.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Like him being in a position where if you get that puck on your stick too, you got to score man. Cause Bob was ready to play last night. Yeah, he was. Like Mabroski was ready to play. I think Stolas was great. Stolas was very significant. I think that pass that pass from Mitch Marner, that is like to Matthew Niles was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:12:32 That we I think we take that for granted sometimes because we see this kind of stuff so often for him. But that is a silly like that is stupid. Good. Yes, that's that's three lines it's crossing. And in the air, it's not a three foot in the air like. Yes. That pass. That's three lines it's crossing. And in the air. It's not a three foot in the air like meatball saucer pass. That's a wrister bullet six inches off the ice landing perfectly saucer pass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And I think that kind of brings us back to the whole playoff picture. It's like, that's how skilled you are. And that's what you can do to be game breakers. And it's like, that's what you want to see. So it's good. Like you see it now, that's great. And that's what you can do to be game breakers and it's like that's what you want to see so it's good like you see it now That's great And that's what you've got to do and furthermore if you get those opportunities you got to close them and that's the significance of Matthew
Starting point is 00:13:13 Nives and him doing what he did last night. He didn't panic and get the shot off quick He didn't he didn't allow the defender to really get a position on him because he's so big and he used his body He's used he used his feet and he made a skillful play. Really skillful. That's a skillful play man. It is when you have a guy draped on you like that and just for all the turkeys out there that are always like you're too hard on the guys you're too hard on you're a Mitch hater you know what we just did we appropriately pumped Mitch Marner's tires because he deserved it. He's one of the best players on the ice he came through in the clutch he was a team leader he made the plays when it counted he was counted on
Starting point is 00:13:48 and i don't even think he had his complete a game last night and he was still made still the decision-maker i show you though how good those guys can be like when it when it's not a high percent it's like you can still factor in and i think with with a team like florida in the way they play and this sounds crazy to say but you just can't get bored. Like you can't get bored playing a game where it's like nothing's happening for a bit, nothing's happening, and you just got to work through it.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Like you just, you have to stick with it and hope that maybe it's minute 55 of the game, but that's your opening. You just chipped away at it. That's it, man. And you didn't open it up earlier than you had to. That's how you're likely gonna win, is like you're gonna win three one, three two, two one, and it's an opportunistic play where you're the one that breaks through. And I look at the top six, because Knives and McMahon,
Starting point is 00:14:38 I think they just fit really well with the other four guys. Like it's the best combination they've had if they're gonna stick with this and best combination they've had if they're going to stick with this and not spread the wealth, which they're not going to. Because even the first goal, like that's a brilliant play from Willie. And it's a really crafty play from Tavares. Like he goes to the net, he downplayed how difficult that tip can be. That's a difficult angle. Like you got to be, the sticks on the other side, he didn't backhand it in. Like to forward tip a bullet pass like that from Nylander, like that's a tough skill play. That's Jeff O'Neal-esque right there.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That is Jeff O'Neal-esque. That is not even close because I would be the guy where Willie was and I'd be shooting the puck on net. But John Tavares, like him and Patrick Kane in this generation, there's not many guys better around the net. Like plain and simple Kane in this generation, there's not many guys better around the net. Like plain and simple. Yeah, exactly. Little plays like that, backhanders, in tight around the net. Like him and Sid.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Sid's really good at that too, right? Like those guys made their living there. I'm very sorry I left out Sid. Because he's at the top of the food chain for that one. Sid can stand there and literally just like tomahawk chop at Pucks on the ice and they go under the bar by the white they'll be like not just the white do you have just would tell guys like eat dot don't worry just shoot at five feet wide all trying to stick on it no
Starting point is 00:15:53 problem you're like okay but i'm pretty good i mean uh... that's that's what you're looking for that's why they are who they are but you know they all factored in its tomorrow's and i isn't mariner uh... and again, I think the core four being who they are, what they are and what is expected, it's only going to elevate. And I think that is kind of where a lot of Leaf fans are driving at.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's not even about the Barkov, Kachuk, Akblat absence. It's all right. We saw you guys do what you did last night. You have to do that again in the playoffs. Like, it's more of a, I I think an introverted look at the team and as a fan kind of wondering when is that going to happen consistently for a run but I think with Nye's doing what he's doing that's what 26 he scored last night again I thought Bobby McMahon was was good last night I thought he used his wheels I thought he was he was in on the
Starting point is 00:16:41 four check like he's he's a you know what he is you know what he's going to be but if you're gonna stick with those those four guys playing together in that combination the other two guys who've got to contribute as well And they did that last night and I think maybe the most significant hurdle that was That leaped over last night was what we talked about all day yesterday And that was stole ours, and I thought he made some great stops in the second period And even in the third like he just he looked big he matched Bob Ross key And that's big I think for his psyche he had to beat his former team They had to get a win last night and Bob showed up to play yeah
Starting point is 00:17:16 And it's not like Bob was leaky and you won six one and Bob got pulled like Bob Ross key was there to play They were on a back-to-back they were missing guys and there were some there were some leaky moments which is going to happen and when it breaks down you need to be able to rely on your goaltender and I thought Storrs played really really well last night. There's like coaches will always say this thing we got to bend but not break right because the other team's gonna have a push especially if it's a team as good as Florida and you'll see it for you know five ten minute segments even but you can't bend and not break without a goaltender that makes the saves for you.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And I think that's the takeaway with Stolar is like so many times this year, he has given them that opportunity where the levy doesn't break and they can stay in it and he gives you a couple saves and now that buys your best guys time to get going, which is what we saw. You know my philosophy, Frankie, is the goaltender saves a lot of time in the video room because if he makes the save probably not sitting in a room somebody saying you lost your check there you gotta get lower here you get
Starting point is 00:18:14 like he can save a lot of people headaches yeah i can with just the say is that it becomes nitpicking after then that's like okay do i really need to show on this one we can get burned for it so you know it just kind of keeps everyone a little easy attention you want positive vibes around the team right now and I think that's what Perubes looking for like that was a hard-fought win two points you can see up on the screen right now the odds to win the Atlantic courtesy of Fandol the Leafs are now minus 155 it's interesting that it appears to be a two-horse race I'll believe that when I see it, that Florida is officially out.
Starting point is 00:18:46 But that was big last night. Like with only so many games left, they still go down to Florida next week. They play Florida on the front end of a back-to-back, which I don't love if I'm the Leafs. Because then you're going into Tampa on a back-to-back. And Tampa is the team that is really fighting with you right now,
Starting point is 00:19:01 because they're right behind you with a game in hand. But Leafs minus 155 to win the division, Tampa plus 155, the Panthers are plus 900. Dude, Florida's like, they're below 500, like in their last 10 games, but they did this last year at this time too. Where they were kind of in this days or whatever, and then once the playoffs picked up, it was go time.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah, so as much as they might not be in the, whatever you want to call it, in the runnings for first in the division, I still don't want to see that team in the playoffs. You prefer not to play them, and if anything, last night may have been significant in terms of home ice for the Leafs, where maybe Tampa passes them.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Tampa's in Ottawa tonight, getting the Leafs play Tampa next week in Tampa. That game is gonna be significant. That Ottawa team better win. They better snap out of it, because the habs are home against boston tonight like boston's dead last in the east i was not i got to admit i was not aware that they had sunk below ball i saw it today and i have to admit it was like
Starting point is 00:19:57 when the guy handed me my first child and i get to the uh... cradle that i was so i looked down and i saw that man did that feel good. I accidentally sent it to one of our close friends at the network there who happens to be a high-ranking producer and I just said chew on that you're down where you deserve to be. Yeah that is shocking to see but like they've lost nine in a row. Put it in perspective, they have a minus 52 goal differential. We talk about Pittsburgh being horrible. They're at minus 56 and they're ahead of the Bruins.
Starting point is 00:20:32 But how long? That's a fall. I don't think... Doogie, tell me how long ago they were in that Columbus Rangers spot. It didn't seem like it was. Oh, it wasn't long ago, man. Dude, that's like a three week tailspin. Yeah, they're the 76ers of the NHL like that's what it is if you're gonna miss man go all the way down yeah like they might win the lottery
Starting point is 00:20:52 dude they might end up with the first pick overall like it was because they were touching go leading up to the trade deadline they were they were in the playoffs out of the playoffs in the playoffs out of the playoffs like they were right there hovering and now they've lost nine in a row they have spiraled out of control they are getting dummied by almost everyone they're tanking like I guess they're tanking March 1st March 1st the Bruins were two points out of a the final playoff spot right we're tied with the Ottawa Senators March 1st now they're 29th overall dead last and they
Starting point is 00:21:20 had a minus 27 goal differential and now now they're a minus 52. Do you think Buffalo has the audacity to look at that and shake hands in the room? Say, hey boys, we're no longer dead last in the East. Congratulations. Dude, I'm telling you, Buffalo, Buffalo. Don't start. Don't start. You stop it right now. Don't start.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Buffalo is my cheat team next year, and we are going to do some damage because they're figuring things out. Are they? And if Reimer can be a quality backup and they can get some kind of stud, because I want a Colorado situation where both goalies are flipped and playing tickets going somewhere else, I want a stud in net and let's rock it from there. Okay. Let's go. I cannot buy into that. I'll never buy into it. I am not there yet. 14 years in a row they missed the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And the good people of Buffalo deserve better. They really do. Yeah, they got Josh Allen though. If you have Josh Allen and you got the Bills and they go to the AFC Championship. So that's all they get. Listen, it is a great hockey market. This is particularly tough.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I mean, 14 years in a row of missing the playoffs when you've got a long, rich history and they've been around forever and it sucks man. It really does suck. JP or Krakstaff Bordop just said January 29th the Boston Bruins were in a wild card spot. Yeah crazy man. Like that's not even 40 days ago. Oh no it would be. What is that? How many days is that? 60 days? It's not that many though. It's not that 40 days ago. Oh no, it would be. What is that? How many days is that? 60 days? Man.
Starting point is 00:22:47 It's not that many though. It's not that many. I skipped a month. February's a bad month. No one counts February. Cut February out and it's under 40. They better draft well. Right, like you gotta draft well now.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Boston? Yeah, you gotta, like this is your chance to rebuild things. Yeah, I guess so. You know, you gotta hit on some picks or else you're gonna be here for a while. If there's any team that can pull a Washington next year and kinda retool on the fly, to rebuild things. Yeah, I guess so. You know, you got to hit on some picks or else you're going to be here for a while. If there's any team that can pull a Washington next year and kind of retool on the fly, it'll be the Boston Bruins.
Starting point is 00:23:10 You mean the team that fired Jim Montgomery because it was on him that that team was so bad? That Boston Bruins team? Not a good, this is, it's kind of like the Chicago Blackhawks of the East. But I bet you if he asked Jimmy, he'd be like, look, we're out of time on this one. Yeah, he's probably ecstatic. You've got to flush guys out, get younger guys in there. I don't really want to stay for that anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So it's probably the only thing you've got left to do. Unless you said to Jimmy, you want to be patient here and we're a couple years away. But I guarantee you, well the one thing they've got to figure out too, and I'm glad Noodles isn't here because I love blaming goaltending for everything, Swamen's been terrible this year. Terrible. Terrible. they'll be better though i mean that that seems like a lock like a healthy
Starting point is 00:23:50 prepared full offseason full training camp swaman i'd be willing to put some money on him down some dollars a lot where they go to the scene in some nights from like that is not even close to the same guy that got that they need a lot of guys back they need the lindholm's plan they they need to they need a lot of boy I hear you they need McAvoy exactly like you still have they need a first-line center still yeah the worst thing that happened to the Bruins was was last year like they they kind of fooled everyone thinking like we we made the right moves and we're Charlie coil and yeah it wasn't gonna last long.
Starting point is 00:24:26 No big picture. Florida put an end to that pretty quickly. We'll get into Brad Marsh and in his play last night. Also, Sam Bennett, little sneaky plan. John Tavares in the third. We'll get your take on that. What we what we thought may have happened or didn't happen last night. Also, some crazy fights last night in Carolina, the Washington game last night. We'll touch on that.
Starting point is 00:24:45 We got some big games in the NHL this evening. The Raptors back in action as well tonight. And Mark Giordano coming up just after five o'clock. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN for overdrive continues powered by Fanduil, bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score. Mark Giordano later this afternoon. Catch up with Brian Mudrik ahead of
Starting point is 00:25:05 Habs Bruins at the Bell Center tonight. I've got my hazy B list to get to. Also I saw Gary Player ranking his majors one through four. You gotta tell Gary, it's a very simple call from Freddie Ridley. You call up Jerry Player and you say your time's done here but i don't know how many but you can come to the dinner and then get lost because it seems like every year he takes a shot in one year is son was stealing golf balls and he's hitting t shots in doing a scissor kick in the study
Starting point is 00:25:39 duties bad for business man he's here for business so here's what uh... gary player said this is how he rank his four majors number one he said the open the british open is by far the greatest tournament on the planet i rate the open at one the u.s. open at two
Starting point is 00:26:01 the pg a at three and the masters of four which is the most insane thing to say so that's what i'm saying like sorry at the champions dinner on tuesday night if i'm fred ridley i'm gonna go up to him and say you know you come here gary in your heart out you put your green jacket on we welcome you back every year
Starting point is 00:26:24 and a week before the tournament you gotta blab your mouth and say that we're the fourth best major championship, so stuff your face and get drunk with Stads and Woozy over there and get lost. Yeah, I agree. Dude, get lost now. Is there any context to it? Did he have any kind of explanation? No. Somebody must have been asking him about the Masters and he was like, the Masters? What the hell about the Masters and he was like the Masters what the hell about the Masters I got the British open as the which was telling you every year I can I can deal with the open being one the oldest championship ever You know, he's South African. He's from that part of the world quote-unquote. I get it's more in Europe and in Britain
Starting point is 00:27:00 But and maybe that was the first one he played in and you got out you got to play your way in It's an open championship larger field. I get that like I can I can live with that that's fine having the PGA championship exactly that's where it went too far is absolutely absurd like I prefer to go to Valhalla and play the PGA as I think players take this the the players championship more seriously than I agree that's why I go got a good at all might be a you if you switched out the pga for the players or i know the heritage at this year just like the pga championship at sawgrass every year and i a fourth major you could do that you that's like a that's a plug-and-play major you could flop it out for one of
Starting point is 00:27:42 five other terms and say this is the same thing and people would be like yeah no it is nobody only one Masters just like the open there's only one open yeah sure only one Masters but it's all because player yes he's bent out of shape because his kid was there with some like dude he was stealing Jack Nicklaus's golf balls or something well some he was promoting something he also he was wearing a shirt that said like Jerry player comm or something and people and they're like, can you not wear that? Like you're hitting ceremonial golf balls here.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You're out here at the par three and your kid is trying to promote some company that you're involved in. We'd prefer if you didn't do that. And then there was some other allegation that he was taking something. Something was going on. And yeah and yeah Jerry players just all bent out of shape but you know who's in a world of hurt right now my guy Max Homa man oh disaster he gassed his caddy and he's plus four through eight hole like you took him I told you not to touch him he was plus I thought there was gonna be a
Starting point is 00:28:40 response he was 150 to 1 on fandle and do this can't win the tournament friend yeah that's the year what is the cat like why these guys they always gas the caddy well it's like firing the assistant coaches you know it's it's a desperate move and it's a move where you know you're in big trouble and you have this urgency to do something to prove that you're doing something you've got to do something to prove that you're doing something. You've got to do something. I can understand if you're firing the caddy, if it's like, you know, the yardages aren't or he's not doing the walk through the way you want.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It's a work ethic thing. I see what you're doing preparation wise and I don't think that is sufficient enough to help me. But Max Homa, he's been struggling for a while now. Yeah, he's been two years now. This is not something new that just happened, just out of nowhere. His game has not been in a good place,
Starting point is 00:29:29 so whether it's the swing coach or him, like mental coach, like it's not the caddy. No, it's not the caddy, it's Max. Max has the issue, but yeah, he's not a good player. I'm assuming that he's qualified for the Masters. I'm sure he's still top 50 in the world. I would think so anyway. But look that up, Dugie, make sure your home is in there.
Starting point is 00:29:48 All right, muddy coming up. Brian Mudrik in about 10 minutes. This Chatfield Carmichael fight last night. So Carolina and Washington. Carolina blew the doors off Washington last night and they're divisional rivals. It's a longstanding rivalry. They might meet each other in the second round
Starting point is 00:30:05 all the scored which is awkward because he's not going in in the game was already in a four nothing at that point but everyone's jack for all the stories three off the record but there was a fight last night the broke out and chaffields of but i don't think of a mess like a heavyweight or anything like that i think you know set a fight and i don't really no much history of car michael as a fighter but he wanted a piece of him
Starting point is 00:30:25 So they went at it. We're watching it on TSN for and at the end Carmichael He sweeps him. Sorry, McMichael. Yes. Sorry, McMichael not Carmichael How many times I just say it to 15 times? He sweeps him and then he it's kind of a UFC like takedown And then he, it's kind of a UFC, like, takedown, GSP type of move. It's a dirty play. I don't know how you guys feel, but that is dirty and that's six inches away from being very, very bad news for McMichael. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I don't know if there's a rule on takedowns on fights in the NHL rule book. So you can't go to it and you say, well, this is rule 45.8 and so we can suspend him under that. But that is an absolute intent to injure. And that should be nowhere near an NHL fight. That should have been 20 games. I'm sorry. I think it's completely insane that the league didn't even touch that. Like there's a slew foot involved there. Like you've got to do something with that so that every player knows going forward that they're not even going to attempt this. That's how you deal with that right there.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And you have a responsibility. Yeah. Now there's going to be a bunch of different variations of guys doing stupid garbage like that. Like what the hell are they watching? Listen, that was as goofy as Truba on Frederick where he almost knocked his head off into the top row and there was nothing. But this is a gong show, man.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Dude, so you're willing to fight, okay, which is fine. You're going to throw punches like I have all the time in the world for that. Wasn't my cup of tea, but like I can understand guys that want to do it and do it. But then the league has a responsibility to say the confines of the fight are you grab a jersey you throw punches once the you know It's not a UFC takedown like they have a responsibility to protect the player They got something down where it's like a gray area where he's gonna say that's how I fight or the definition of what's fighting is gonna come into play, but I just look at that and To stop that you hammer him with something I don't know if it's five games whether it's three games
Starting point is 00:32:27 But you let everybody know that if you pull that garbage you're not you're not getting away with it I'm sorry God forbid his his head hit the ice first, which is six inches away from happening But here's here's the thing. Here's a break. Oh, here we go. No, here's here's the thing I did I disagree with both of you. I think it's difficult I think it's incredibly difficult to legislate intent when you're literally in a fight and and this is the issue that the league has if you're going to allow fighting we've all been in them in different capacities. So you think he was just flailing around and grabbing whatever? I'm not saying I like it I'm not saying I'm comfortable with it but what I'm
Starting point is 00:32:59 saying is I think it's very difficult to argue that there needs to be rules that are legislated within the fight They go, you know, obviously if you bite someone if you use your skate But there there's there's a history in this league of guys that are on the ice and and they can't protect themselves and guys are Wailing on them like like some of the most famous fights we've ever seen some of our favorite talking like old are old time Yes, but but the point is if you're gonna allow fighting fighting when you you guys know when you're in a fight man it's violent it's violent and it's scary and you're in there and you're thinking man i got
Starting point is 00:33:31 a hold on for dear life i gotta win this fight that's what i'm doing here i'm here to fight into me he broken unwritten code that's i think it's more at the that you he you would have the right for tom wilson to tap on him next time and say you know he's getting that he's getting that i was that i'm not as it was it doesn't have to even wait for him to oblige that i think how greasy that was wilson can say i'm punching you right now i'm not even telling you i get it
Starting point is 00:33:54 but like take downs happen they're dangerous they're always dangerous take downs happen guys throw bombs guys there's fights were some guys six nine the other guys five seven if you're going to have fighting in the game unfortunately you're gonna have plays like that well fascinating about if you're gonna have it you got to allow it like that is the way I stand Gary Bettman was in the building for that yeah they haven't said they're not gonna suspend them they're not gonna find them they're not gonna do anything like Hayes what it's like I'm not saying I get it
Starting point is 00:34:23 but if the league came out and said they gave five games for that what would you be saying today i could read i would be able to reason with exactly what i want to do why not just do it and get it over with them where do you draw the line where if the guy beats the hell out of somebody else should he have stopped where do we draw the line on a fight where you say okay you broke his nose his jaw you knocked out teeth and you kept punching. I'm suspending you. Yeah, I just didn't like what I saw there. I thought that was trash.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I know that, I get it. And I think it was an unwritten code that was broken, but I don't think it's a code of the NHL rules because I think the NHL is sensitive to the fact that it's difficult to legislate a literal fight. Like you're in it to win it, man. Like that's how fights work. You drop the gloves, you're like, I gotta win this fight. And it can get it, you're in it to win it, man. Like that's how fights work. You drop the gloves, you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:06 I gotta win this fight. And it can get greasy, it can get dicey, and it was scary last night. It could have been really bad. Luckily it wasn't. We'll see what Mark Geodano has to say about that. Geo coming up in about 25 minutes. Bell Center will be rocking tonight, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:35:20 We got the Bruins in town playing the halves. Big game, big two points for Montreal. Brian Moodger coming up overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN for all right least back in action on Saturday against Columbus Marked your Dano coming up in about 20 minutes Brian Moudra will join us here in a moment Bell Center should be electric this evening It was crazy on Tuesday Looked amazing in there like what was the bigger pop? The tying goal or the winner? The winner. The tying one was big, but it was like, you guys just watched Florida play,
Starting point is 00:35:53 clogging things up, nothing's really happening. They stayed with it, they got a bounce, they scored, everyone went crazy. But the three on three build up, because you could see it starting to everyone went crazy but the three on three build up because you could see it starting to really starting to pick up and yeah I think Muddy's energy was picking up and then it was it was a huge pop and tonight's a massive game and unfortunately we're not doing it but like if we were we got to know how tight would Muddy's pants be because the bigger the game the tighter the pants he wears like a general rule for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Oh, I could see that being the case. I could see him 82 different suits for every possible game he could call. 82 different suits. Here he is, the voice of the Habs, Brian Mudrick. What's happening, Muddy? I don't know, uh, Hazy B. I don't think maybe no pants, right? That big a game.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I mean, that's, uh, that's quite the intro. I don't think I've had an intro like that, butancesco thank you for that francesco thank you anytime you just take them right off and fold them in the corner wide power stance too yeah yeah i guarantee you you wouldn't be the first guy to do that i guarantee it nobody needs that nobody needs that that. That's true. What a grind here man. What a buildup. And you've been calling Montreal Canadian games on TSM for years now, Muddy. Have you experienced anything like this? The buildup and the buzz and the pop at the Bell Centre these days. You know, it's really special Brian. It's been awesome. I say it all the time. It's
Starting point is 00:37:23 the best job in the world. It's the best office in the world and you know listening to your show a lot and you guys talk about it. There's no better place on earth any night, especially a Saturday obviously, but at the Bell Center, especially when the team is going and there's only been a few moments that I've been involved of obviously we don't have the playoffs but like, you know, you know when Patti Waa came back for the first time as a coach, Slavkovsky's first goal line a first goal You know there the Colvin year was tough. Obviously it was special. They were gonna make the playoffs, but no fans, right? So until later they got outside. I don't recall goosebumps like that when when Suzuki pulls off, you know They got a break obviously, but they'll take it. They played better. They got the break.
Starting point is 00:38:05 He pumped in with eight seconds to go and then the overtime goal. And I think Frank, he can attest to this. The beauty of getting to call that is like, you're so in the moment, like you don't even expect it. And I think that comes out naturally because it's just, it's such a wild, that's a cool place. It's a very, very special place. The Bell Centre to call game. Muddy, I know you guys had some fun with your tweet about Hudson, but when you watched him
Starting point is 00:38:27 early on, did you think that he could have the success that he's having? He's going to win the rookie of the year, but he's a small guy and he's even smaller in stature than Quinn Hughes or McCarr. Did you think it would work this well and he'd be what he's become? Well, it's funny, Frankie and I, when he comes out at the beginning and the kids come out to hold the Habs flags and stuff, you think he's tiny. He is a little guy. You hear about the years where Johnny Goudreau played in the NHL and they thought that he wasn't even a player because he's a little guy. But when I saw him, you got to give the scouting staff
Starting point is 00:39:03 a lot of credit for Montreal, right? I mean, yeah, me and Craig Button were blessed to go to these U18s and we watched him, but he was so noticeable though, like the way he shifted, the way he moved, it's like you don't really see players like that. And you saw that at the U18 level and then the world junior level. And every single time you think, okay, someone's going to thump this guy, right? He's going to get lined up by, you know, a bigger player and he's going to get pummeled and it's going to be, he's down.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Can't hit the guy. Patrick Kane is his favorite player. How many times do you remember Patty Kane getting throttled, you know, during his all of fame, any show career, right? And then he comes up to the NHL and the first two games of last season, he played Detroit, he set up slabs goal is 20. So Slavkovsky got his bonus for his 20th goal he made the shifty move at the blue line dangled the guy and threw it towards the net and bang Slav tipped it in I'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:39:54 suggest that I was gonna you know he's gonna win rookie of the year but I can just tell you this so every single level he's proven everyone wrong I believed in him since I saw him and when he slid number, like to the second round in that draft, I was like, this could be the steel man. Like this kid, he has IQ and the ability to see the ice. And Frankie can talk about this. The way he defends bigger players, we watched it all year,
Starting point is 00:40:15 he might get burned by a player. Then the next time you would think they could scotling Hudson, he's got a book on you, man. And he'll play you in the corner and he doesn't get hit. He uses the body, he gets in your hands and he finds that way to steal the puck and I think his gambler mentality has slowed down a little bit in the sense that I feel now, you know Marty
Starting point is 00:40:33 accepts that, Marty St. Louis and the player he is but he's gotten way better at deciding when to gamble and when to make a play when there's nothing there. The defensive thing is really cool because you know at the start of the season you would watch him sometimes, maybe he's getting burned or he might be trying to do too much. They always say 200 games for an NHL defenseman. This guy's kind of figured it out in short order. Muddy, you and I, we get to talk to Marty after every morning skate. We kind of value that and he tells us some interesting stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Any conversations that stick out to you that we may have had with him this season where either Hudson came up or the team or Suzuki that you're like man like that was like that was really well put and like you can understand where the players kind of get it from with Marty. Well there's a couple things that stand out throughout the season is the first one is like Lane just doesn't seem to get tired. We forget guys he just you just played at Boston University like you're the NHL grind against the best players in the world against big guys that are physical forwards when you look at a Barkov or a Dry Fiddle or go down the list right it is a different beast and it's a different animal. We asked Marty on that road trip and I said to him I'm like do you ever like he was popping 28
Starting point is 00:41:44 minutes per game Frankie and I remember I think he hit 28 minutes one game and I said to him, I'm like, do you ever, like he was popping 28 minutes per game, Frankie. And I remember, I think he hit 28 minutes one game and I said to Marty, I'm like, do you worry about this kid because he'll be the first kid out on the ice the next day at an optional, like he can't take them off the ice. Like he doesn't take days off. And Marty's like, nah, I'm going to let Lane do Lane, man. I'm not getting in his wheelhouse. He can go do his thing. And like we've watched it. We've all got to watch it. But the kid is a hockey junkie. He loves it.
Starting point is 00:42:11 He comes out in the morning first. A lot of times at morning skate, he'll work by himself in the corner net and he'll work on his shot. And you cannot drag this kid off the ice. Maybe someday he's gonna have to take a break, but man, the motor is high and his drive and
Starting point is 00:42:26 his compete is next level. How do you not love the kid? Yeah, he's an incredible player to watch, like thoroughly entertaining to watch play with Brian Mudrik. And I was pumping the tires of Nick Suzuki the other day after he played the way he played. He's been great as well. And someone wrote me and said, Suzuki's great, but Hudson's the superstar of this team Hudson is the face or will be the face of the Habs
Starting point is 00:42:48 Do you see it that way money did like how when you're in town when you're at the Bell Center when you're interacting with Montreal Canadian fans is Hudson as he already reached that level where he is he's the guy in terms of the Habs and the way fans are gonna react Until this demidoff kid arrives. Yeah. Man, but yeah, you know what? No, it's a great point. I would suggest that Hazy that, oh, I brought this up, I forget which show, but it was a while back, but the thing with Suzuki and the thing with Hudson, I would say that Hudson is going to be
Starting point is 00:43:21 the guy for sure, but what Nick brings, the intangible that we don't talk about enough with what Nick brings to this team is how respected he is. He is an old soul. Um, she, Weber called this two years before she retired that Nick Suzuki was going to be the next captain of the Montreal Canadians and, and it's how he operates, you know, outside on the road with fans. He'll take young guys. There was a story, I think it was, Mishar was drafted and you come in,
Starting point is 00:43:50 you come to the first camp and Nick reaches out, hey man, let's go for a coffee. Makes a point that these kids that are coming up, that Nick makes sure that everyone is on board with the culture. And I think, Frank, you can attest to this too. The one thing that Jeff Gordon- Gordon Kent Hughes should be really proud of that is a real quality room like that is a room of young men in there that are
Starting point is 00:44:11 really tight and are really awesome and I think Nick Suzuki stamp is all over that Hudson's got the flash in the dash and he's very exciting you'll get me wrong but I mean Nick Suzuki let me just be clear is the number one centre the National Hockey League and he is outstanding leader and I think he's the catalyst for other players to have that success that you're talking about, Brian. For sure. Like every day of the week. And I think for Suzuki, he's only going to get better, Brian, because at some point there's
Starting point is 00:44:36 going to be more reinforcements for this team. Like there could be another second line center next year. Demidov is going to be there. So the outlook for Suzuki looks better when there's more underneath him as far as talent. But what do you make of how resilient this group has been? You just talked about the character in that locker room. Are you surprised with all the comebacks and the resilient play that we've seen from this group this year? Not really. I only say that just because that goes through the other leader and his name is Marty St. Louis. I mean, when you have a Hall of Famer like Marty, who has been in the minors,
Starting point is 00:45:08 who was sent down, who was a fourth-line player, who has put on all of it, right? There's not one player in Montreal's room, the skilled guys down to like the grinder guys, like a posetta that Marty loves for his energy, right? No one can look at Marten St. Louis and go, well, I'm not listening to this guy. Like, like they love Marty. I think Marty really takes the time to, to coach like individually as well and as a team and with the system. And I think there's a belief in that room that Marty, and it's taken a while. You asked the veterans like Brendan Gallagher, like it's taken time.
Starting point is 00:45:40 A cold coffee will talk about that early in the year. Like it's, it's taken time for this, the hard work, but now it's paying off and now in these close gains, they don't give up and they truly do believe. The question mark at times I would suggest is the goaltending. Dolbash came out like red hot shut out the Panthers like insane. The shine's come off a little bit. Samuel Montembeau is having a heck of a year. Whatever he soaked up at that Four Nations, I know he didn't play, but that was incredible. But you know, Frankie, I truly believe that those guys never believe they're out of a game. And I, and you can say that sometimes, I actually really, I believe it. I believe it. Well, Muddy, it'll be a fun one tonight and again on Saturday night they got Philly,
Starting point is 00:46:20 then they're at Nashville, you got a three games you got to get here. You try to get five, six points of yourreal and you take it from there to these next three games it's been a great ride great calls all season I know you got a few more left in you so enjoy it and we appreciate you doing this today anytime guys we'll see you at summit golf and country club on me yes lock it in lock it will be there 100% be 100% be there. Cannot wait. We'll chat then. Thank you Muddy. Wow. Standing on material on the way out the door too. What an invite on the way out too man.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Well we gotta take him up on that. 100%. Yeah Muddy's like the king of the summit though. Have you guys had your first fight Frankie, you and Muddy? I know you guys are super buddies, you call the games together. Has there been one incident where he's like, guys are super buddies you call the games together has there been one incident where he's like you damn did it this time yeah you talked over me you talked over me it's you guys have had to have had one argument no no we'll find one for you okay we'll get one we'll instigate one all right mark geodano coming up hazy bees list still to come as well overdrive continues TSN
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