OverDrive - OverDrive - April 7, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jonas Siegel for Hour 2 on OverDrive! MLB.com Blue Jays Reporter Keegan Matheson joins to discuss Vladimir Guerrero Jr.'s mammoth contract extension with the Blue Ja...ys, the win for the team and outlook of the deal. O-Dog shares his story of channeling his inner constipator in a humorous washroom situation.

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Starting point is 00:00:19 bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score. Brian Hazy, O'Dog, Jeff O'Neil, Jonah Siegel of The Athletic. Keegan Matheson Jeff O'Neill, Jonas Segal of the Athletic, Keegan Matheson coming up from Fenway. Get his take on the series, a big big series, four game series down at Fenway. They're coming off a sweep at the hands of the Mets and Vladdy Gero Jr. is signed for half a billion dollars. Pending physical, pending physical. So we'll catch up with Keegan, get his take on that. The Leafs are probably in the air right now on the way down to Tampa or down to
Starting point is 00:00:46 Florida. They got Panthers tomorrow, Tampa on Wednesday. They might be there already. Have you guys seen the latest conspiracy theory with the Florida Panthers? Can you guess what it is? They're tanking to get the Maples. They're tanking to avoid the Tampa Bay. I read a few of those ones today where I'm like, I don't know. Well, I will say. I read this headline, are the Panthers tanking to get the Leafs? And I just couldn't get myself to believe it.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I don't think they're tanking. I think what they are doing is they are load managing. They are definitely load managing at an excessive rate and I think the Panthers this is the luxury you have when you've won a Stanley Cup it's irrelevant really who you play where you where you end up slotted what is more important when you're playing with house money is that you're healthy and I I think they would do this if they were gonna play Tampa if they were gonna play Toronto if they're gonna play Ottawa I don't think they would do this if they were going to play tampa if they were gonna play drawn of their gonna play auto i'd i don't think
Starting point is 00:01:47 they are considering what's gonna happen come playoff time in terms of an opponent they're thinking internally which is smart like they're they're playing house money they they've won a stanley cup last year haze i bet you any team that like the colorado dallas edmonton l a kings vegas any team that has a chance to win i think that also we don't care where we play and where we start like we got a chance to win we believe in our team
Starting point is 00:02:11 that much i mean there are people like us that were like when the division maybe you get the sense like i wonder if the sensor thinking a we were calm down here maybe we want to who knows what they're thinking man well that's what there's that's the flip side of it like tampa is red hot right now they are they are healthy and they're playing very very
Starting point is 00:02:30 well they have to send if you're brady kachak and you had a candid conversation with them and you said to him who would you rather play in the first round the stanley cup playoffs at toronto maple east of the tampa bay lightning who do you think he would say saying toronto at the ten days out of ten jonas
Starting point is 00:02:47 is right yet i mean listen that sensor three no i believe you can't ignore the results exactly in the lead out of this year in past history right the lease have the history that they have no auto has no playoff history but they don't have a right to necessarily be in bold and rather. I mean, Brady Kachuck hasn't had a playoff game yet. But if I can understand why Ottawa would want Toronto more than Tampa, I can understand why Florida would want Toronto more than Tampa. But if you're the Leafs, even if it's completely bogus, I'm playing this card if I'm Craig Borubey. I'm playing the, these guys want us, these
Starting point is 00:03:24 guys think that we're weaker, these guys think that they can beat us and there's no excuse for the Maple Leafs to ever take their foot off the gas and have any consideration of who they're going to be playing. You have to prove you believe in yourself and you can beat anybody because that's all they have to that's what you've got to do whoever you're gonna play you gotta have to prove that they want to win they're not the kind of team that are gonna be snorting and spitting like the Kachuk brothers if you piss them off and say those guys said that you know they wanted to play you guys it's not like they're gonna be
Starting point is 00:03:58 spitting mad going out on the ice that's just not them they just have to prove that all the years of them saying man man, this just gutted us, and we love each other in that room, and we're going to get it done sooner or later, they have to just make that count one year and make themselves not into liars. They've said it every year. We believe in our group. For six straight years, they'd say,
Starting point is 00:04:21 this is the best locker room we've ever had, and we're going to get it done. We believe in each other i wouldn't get rid of anybody blah blah blah make account one year because i honestly look at it obviously the golden nights of dallas stars the colorado avalanche the oilers the kings caroline is a good team
Starting point is 00:04:40 florida's is two-time like the been in the cup twice tampa is is there one team that you would definitely be afraid of facing off in a series right now? I think it's wide open for someone to pick up a Stanley Cup. Wide open, more than many other years. Yeah, I would agree with that, and I think the Leafs are peaking at the right time. Like they're playing really well right now. They're 8-1 and one in the last 10.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Columbus is running out of steam, but I thought the you know dismantled them on Saturday for the most part and and and we talked about it on Friday Which game are you gonna play if you're Toronto? You're gonna allow it to be run and gun or you're gonna just take it You know pick your spots and dismantle this team and that's what they did Like they it was it was a low event first period on Saturday night and the Leafs just waited for their opportunity It was a low event first period on Saturday night, and the Leafs just waited for their opportunity, and they buried them, and they put them to sleep. And I think they go into Florida
Starting point is 00:05:29 and win at least one of them. I wouldn't be shocked if they won both, Tuesday and Wednesday night. And Florida's in a different position. Florida's not chasing the Leafs in Tampa anymore. They've lost five in a row. They haven't done that in years. Ottawa, to their credit, playing really well,
Starting point is 00:05:42 and they got a really soft sked coming down the stretch. Ottawa's gonna win, I think, think for their final six games at least It's Toronto and Tampa like the game on Wednesday night. That's the game that will determine who's gonna win the division So can I ask you guys? With that in mind, how would you split the goalies? Very good question. I might go Joseph wall tomorrow night now Put wall in Florida or do you just bank the points, make sure you got the points? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:08 If you win tomorrow night, like the Leafs have a four-point buffer on Tampa. Tampa's in New York playing the Rangers tonight, I believe. It's a good question. Like, I guess maybe you go back to Stolaris because he just played them so well last week. And you don't look past an opponent, especially not an opponent like Florida like Florida who should be angry maybe a couple guys get back in the lineup tomorrow night. That might be the play put Stolar's in and just try to try to feast on a struggling team and see what happens. What would you do? I think that's what I do especially because as Mark Masters pointed out to me today and I looked up and he's right as always Joseph all has great numbers against Tampa but whatever that's worth I think he's like five and one with a nine twenty six a percentage there's your answer on do that
Starting point is 00:06:52 Stollers Tuesday wall on Wednesday go out there trying to get points and chase down the division win it and whoever you play is whoever you're gonna play it's not how do you guys real though if they want by the way has any balls he would ask Craig Barube face to face tomorrow, did you do this because Mark, because I pointed out the stats of Joseph Wall against Tampa. Did you pull the trigger on this goaltending scenario? You take my advice. I said it was a good idea.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah. I think Borube might slap him right in the face on live television. Do you think Mark would do that? Sure. Sure, he deserves credit. If that's the way it happens, it should be him that gets credited with that. But how would you guys feel, like, let's say they won the division and then the first round opponent is Florida.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Like, how would you, what would you think about that? I mean- You just gotta do what you do and that's what happens? Yes, I mean, listen, here's the reality. If they play Ottawa, they will be a prohibitive favorite to win that series. They will be expected to win the series. There will be more pressure on them than they've had since the Habs in 2021. Every other series they played for the most part has been a coin flip. The Tampa's, the Bruins, the Panthers series, you know, for the most part over the last nine years,
Starting point is 00:07:59 I would say the Montreal series, the Columbus series the year before, everything else has been at best 50-50, if not, they're the underdogs. I think if they play Ottawa, there's a mental grind to that too There's a bit of a psychology kind of hurdle that you got to overcome. You have to win Yeah, you have to beat Ottawa. They play Florida. I think Lee fans will think okay, of course They finally win the division they get thethers, and it will be a coin flip. They may not even be favored to win that series. And if Kachuk returns and Barkov returns and Ekblad's back in game three,
Starting point is 00:08:32 and Bob's playing the way Bob can play, they're probably an underdog in that series, even though they're the home team. But, Florida's played a lot of hockey. Florida is not coming down the stretch well. I get it that it's load management, they're waiting for guys to get back. It's not always that easy to just snap out of it,
Starting point is 00:08:50 come game one of the playoffs. The Leafs, I think, are peaking at the right time. And the Leafs, if that's who you get, that's who you get. What are you gonna do, throw games and then hope you get Ottawa? What if Florida takes off down the stretch here and wins the next four games in a row? I don't think the Leafs sway off the path that they're on right now just keep
Starting point is 00:09:07 playing your best hockey and make them the the fit like the feared team like just get to a point where like they're playing so damn good and i've always said that about this team get them to a spot where if austin matthews is playing his best hockey the opposition is going to say how in the hell are we ever going to stop that guy because i've been waiting six years for somebody to say after a playoff series we had no answer for thirty four or sixteen or eighty eight for that matter and i just have never heard it i want to hear what you have
Starting point is 00:09:37 i want to coach on the on the press are up on the podium or their best player to say we had no answer for 34 or 16. That's right. I want to hear that one damn time. Yes. Well, I'd like to hear it four times over the course of one spring. Bang.
Starting point is 00:09:52 That's what actually needs to happen. CC Carlo Coliacovou. Yes. Bang. I like the way they're playing. I like the position the Leafs are in. You get there, the dust settles, you play who you play. The Blue Jays are at Fenway tonight playing the Red Sox, coming off a sweep at the hands of the New York Mets. They are now five and five. Man, there was some good mojo going down at Queens.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Right, you sweep the Nationals, you're five and two, everything's coming together. And the bats, ice cold again, ice cold. Bichette, Guerrero, Santander have combined for zero home runs so far. They are dead last in there have combined for zero home runs so far they are dead last in major league baseball in home runs by teams they have five on the season andres him and as has three of them but that's not the story we start with what's light a grow junior
Starting point is 00:10:36 fourteen years five hundred million dollars here's keegan matheson of emily dot com live from fenway park keegan you and i have a three of us the four of us we talked about what he for years we talked about the idea that this contract it may happen it may not happen uh... are you at all surprised were ten games into this season and it decided this is the time we're going to make this happen
Starting point is 00:10:59 you know it does a little surprised on the timing i i'd never believed the deadline was a full deadline, but I did think this was something that was going to stretch into next December. I thought that was the likeliest outcome here. Playing out the season and then seeing what the market had to say, but clearly this has continued on
Starting point is 00:11:18 and frankly good news for everybody. Good news for the Blue Jays, good news for Vladdy, good news for all of our sanity the different fans it's uh... to have this off of everyone's chest to leave us you're asking john stider about something else everyday is i think a relief
Starting point is 00:11:36 for everyone so did not think would happen in the early window of the season but i think that that was by both sides here and just uh... a massive guys. I don't think you can overstate how big this is for this organization. Keegan, when something like this doesn't happen, when there's a deadline met, there's movement from one side or the other, can you talk about where the movement came from here? I'm obviously guessing it's the Blue Jays and how much are we talking and is this a win by Vladys Camp himself and his agent the way this was played? Well, I will describe Vladys Camp as active. Maybe that is the best way to say it.
Starting point is 00:12:13 In what sense? As you have heard report after report after report come out lately, there's been a lot of them. Some of it reported well, some of it reported terribly. A lot of that has been coming from Guerrero's side of that. Now that does not mean Vladys on the cell phone himself, but a lot of that is been coming from the rare outside of that now that doesn't mean gladiator on the cell phone himself but a lot of that is coming from gladi side now the blue jays clearly needed to move a bit here as well a lot of that though guys was not just about the two big numbers we see which is 14
Starting point is 00:12:37 and 500 a lot of that was about deferred money a lot of that was about no trades or those deferrals especially were very big opt-outs are another major thing in these deals we saw that with Soto and others. Those little details I think are where a lot of the movement had to happen and everybody loves a good big beautiful round number 500 everybody likes that and I think they've met in a good place but to your question oh dog when you look at what first baseman have gotten paid in Major League
Starting point is 00:13:08 Baseball yes Vladdy's agency and Vladdy have done very well here because the Blue Jays were in a spot where they had to do this I still think it's a good deal for them I still think this makes sense but they had to do this because if they didn't you know what we would be talking about for the next year, maybe five years. Well, so Keegan, what will make this a good deal? Winning championships make you forget about valuations And how much he is worth every single year If the blue jays turn into a team that wins in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:13:41 Nobody's going to be talking about is Vladdy worth $37 million a year. He's worth a lot of money, yes, but at this point they need big picture success. Individual success at this point doesn't matter much. You need to avoid turning Vladdy into the career that Carlos Delgado had here in Toronto. And I love Carlos Delgado as a hitter, an incredible hitter, incredible player, but I'm talking about the team itself. Carlos Delgado's career here in Toronto
Starting point is 00:14:11 existed in the middle of when teams were not good enough, not competing enough, there weren't enough wild card spots and it was a strange way for that to play out. This team needs to win in the postseason. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. has not won a postseason game. 0-2, 0-2, and 0-2 in the playoffs. That's not gonna fly. If that keeps happening, then you bet. My god, we are gonna be talking about that big $500 million salary of the books. If they are winning, you don't have to win the World Series every year, but just 2015 and 2016, making those deep runs, exciting people. Then we start talking about something else entirely. I think Vladdy, he'll
Starting point is 00:14:49 have his up years, he'll have his down years, we've already seen that. But this team needs to win in the postseason. They have not done it since 2016. That's not good enough, that's not going to work. That's how this is going to be judged. With Keegan Matheson, MLB.com, Jay's at Fenway starting a series against the red sox tonight body grow junior again signing a for about to be signing a fourteen year five hundred million dollar extension is still on term for this year uh... which will make him a blue jay for about twenty five years he's he's signed when he was sixteen
Starting point is 00:15:19 if he gets through this will be what forty forty one years old that'll be twenty five years uh... you know if he plays through this whole thing we know 41 years old that'll be 25 years you know if he plays through this whole thing we know he's gonna own every single record his number will be retired maybe it'll be statute territory I think you're right he's got a win I think he's got to have individual success for that to happen but do you expect any tangible change when it comes to Vlad in the way he handles himself in other words responsibilities within the clubhouse responsibilities within the marketplace
Starting point is 00:15:48 responsibilities with media on a daily basis how does this contract in your opinion change what we could see from gladi on a daily basis moving forward there is a big difference between being the best player on your team and being the face of the franchise and i do not think there are 30 faces of franchise in Major League Baseball. I don't think it's close, quite frankly, guys. Now, he'll handle the money just fine. You give me 500 million, I'm going to be stupid. Glad he's always had money. He knows how to handle that part. That'll be okay. But now
Starting point is 00:16:20 you are unequivocally, disputes no matter what the face of this franchise When you win that's a great place to be when you lose it's gonna suck Because after they lose that crappy nine-to-one game in September You've got to be the guy that comes out and talks even if you went three for four That's what's hard for a lot of guys to deal with to wrap their heads around even if it's not your individual failure you are now the face of the team's failures or their successes, and not everyone can do that. I think Vlad is someone who is growing into that.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I've seen that from him, I've been a reference to him, God as much as anybody over these last eight, nine years, I've seen him grow up in that role, but there's no more hiding from anything at this point. Whether it's good or bad, you are the face of it and I've seen that even in quiet moments around the clubhouse, around spring training. Vlad is the guy saying, no that drill sucks, do it again. No that wasn't good enough, do it again. That's important when it's coming from your best player and
Starting point is 00:17:24 we'll see how that goes when the hard times come that's the ultimate test but that's all on him now when you make that type of money it's all on you. So when you consider this this commitment from the team the largest contract in team history by by a mile it's not even close the third largest contract in baseball history if a fan comes up to you on the street and goes, Keegan, tell me, who does this affect the most in terms of the image, in terms of the possible outcome being positive for them?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Is it Ross Atkins? Is it Mark Shapiro? Is it Rogers the owner? How would you answer that? How would you respond to that type of question? Who? You know what? I wouldn't put this more in terms of the direction of the
Starting point is 00:18:06 baseball ops which is a broad way to say Ross Atkins and the people who make baseball decisions. We have seen already, I think we've had the conversation about this team spending money. Not only have they spent some money the last couple of years, but as we've talked about a bunch of times guys, they've had to spend a hell of a lot more. They've tried to go out and get Shohei Otani they've tried to go get Juan Soto those dudes are not cheap so the money has been there that covers ownership that covers Mark Shapiro's job I think and what they've been doing but you've needed the baseball side to land the guy and they finally have now
Starting point is 00:18:43 everything else gets easier because when you go chase a big pre agent and there's going to be some big ones this off season you're not just saying come to Toronto you're saying come play with Gladys. Not just for a year but for the rest of your career come play with Gladys and that changes the realities for this baseball side. So I put a lot of the credit for this frankly which is due on the baseball side and they got their guy that we've talked about them chafing these big fish he was here all along
Starting point is 00:19:12 it was always gladiator and they got up will this have any effect on negotiations with boba shedders that just sideline i still think that exists all by itself but i really do now when both weeks i think this genuine that he does want to play with black you'd be better come up to the minor league
Starting point is 00:19:33 for one player to play their career with a team of special but you've got to do it together i mean everyone can picture that all baseball america magazine cover where they both look like a twelve years old the smiling over the shoulders of each other for them to go from that to career teammates would be an all-time story in major league baseball if they win
Starting point is 00:19:53 but i think both place right now coming off such a strange year last year i think he's going to show everyone this year he is a damn good baseball player you know it has been but i think in his case it's really hard to set a value at this point. I still see that one reaching free agency, what happens from there we'll see, but I don't think you're going to hear another big bomb of news tonight or anything like that. With Keegan Matheson, MLB.com, from Fenway, Jay's Red Sox starting a series tonight, and
Starting point is 00:20:22 you know they just got swept the timing of this not the best not the best considering there you know they're now five and five they got swept in New York and the bats were asleep and you look at the top of the lineup Bichette Guerrero Santander like none of them have hit a home run like none of the like Santander slash line is is horrendous like it is he has not arrived yet. He has not had any moments where you can look at and say okay there he is there's the guy and I'm listening to Schneider after the game yesterday and I'm just rolling my eyes like the offensive come it's coming the home runs are going to be we've been talking about this for years. These are the three guys they need to get going. Are you a glass half full or glass half empty guy that they're five and five?
Starting point is 00:21:08 Considering the statistics of those three guys at the top of the lineup Yeah, there's still baseball guys. This is the strange part I I walked in today and made a comment about Easton Lucas starting today and one of the blue J's PR guys said teegs It's burrios today. You can get back in the game here So we're playing catch-up, but the top of this lineup needs to be a ton better this is obvious with Santander guys he is a notoriously slow starter and that's not an excuse it's not a good thing so ever but that's part of what you are purchasing when you sign Santander his OPS in March and April has notoriously been very bad
Starting point is 00:21:44 then suddenly it warms up and he heats up. That happens every single year. We used to see this with Lourdes Gurriel a bit, so I think that will come. But you need to see it from Vlade, ideally really soon after signing this contract. And you need to see it from Bowe. Now, if you had asked me those guys four days ago, I'd say it's great news because they're finding other ways to win and those bats will come along. But after a few days in Queens, we saw how poor the offense was.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And like you said there, it was exactly like 2024. I felt like I was writing a 2024 story. So you cannot have that creeping back in. That is a legitimate cause for worry. I don't care if it's early i never care about their lead these games count just the same with the games of tempered new and getting up to a hot start is crucial in this division
Starting point is 00:22:34 and with the strength to get with the plate so it's a legitimate cause for worry i don't talk on there will come around because always does but you need some power but you talk talked about right off the top of this. Five home runs with three from Jimenez. That's not gonna do it. That's not what anyone expects. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And they're going into a situation here with the Red Sox. They put 18 on the board last night. Like they are mashing. The Yankees are breaking records for home runs hit early into the season. And again, every year we do this. So I think the AL East is watered down. I think it's going to come back to the pack and it never ever does.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And the blue Jays have to be aware of it because they've been in the division for a long, long time. Um, well Keegan, when do you think we're going to actually have this contract officially signed? Like, what is this physical going to look like? Vladdy's in the lineup tonight. what exactly are they looking for in this physical to make it official well I'll tell you the true story fellas I poked around on this because I was worried I would have to travel to the city of
Starting point is 00:23:34 Baltimore later this week if it took a while it sounds like it's gonna happen while we're still here in Boston which is good news for everyone we'll see what goes into this physical it's a very standard formal thing to go through. They're not trying to find anything in particular, but standard operations that should be able to be worked out over the next day or two. Hopefully that's something that we are talking about officially here in Boston at this series. And then of course there will be a ballroom gala a big fancy official thing back in Toronto where everybody rolls it out but I think it'll
Starting point is 00:24:09 be these next couple days. Okay we look forward to that great stuff Keegan appreciate you doing it enjoy Fenway Park enjoy Boston and we'll do it again down the road. You got it fellas take care. There he is Keegan Matheson of MLB.com yeah I guess the signing will be it's always weird when all these reports are done everyone knows and there's some details like like he can send the working out you know no trades and opt-outs and all that kind of stuff but when she wanted to sign like officially do the signing back in
Starting point is 00:24:37 toronto i don't know yeah well there on the road right but they've got to go through by getting or but i'm just have oppressor say we've agreed to it we're officially going to dot the line back in Toronto before our next game. Who knows? Do what you got to do. They're back home next week. Like next Monday you're back home. They'll do something significant I'm sure that day but it's monumental man like it's a massive commitment but the players going to stick around and like he just we just saw it at the Mets home opener where the Mets crowd gave him this massive ovation and the Mets are doing...
Starting point is 00:25:11 That would have just got worse man. Yankee Stadium, Fenway. Well tonight man you're at Fenway tonight like if this guy if this and I don't think that's a coincidence that they looked at the schedule and said we're going into Fenway they're going into Yankee Stadium I think next week or two weeks from now, that it just would have been become louder and louder and louder. And the reality is, if you've been told, if it's a mandate, just get it done, then go get it done.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Like if the owner said, pay him, and Vlad is being honest, which by all accounts, well, he was because we know it's official now or it's going to be official, I want to stay, but you just gotta meet the price, then why let this fester? It should have been done three, four, five weeks ago, but that's irrelevant now,
Starting point is 00:25:56 but he's gonna be a Blue Jay for life. And I think if you're a Blue Jay fan, listen, you just hope the guy stays healthy and he continues to mash. That's all you gotta worry about, and ultimately win. That's how you get hope the guy stays healthy and he continues to mash. That's all you got to worry about and ultimately win That's how you get to the next level of being like an all-time great Athlete and legend within a market. You've got to win, but that's not just on him It's not just on him. Of course not as much on the front office, but he's got a big moments too, right?
Starting point is 00:26:19 Like it has yeah, right You got it You got to get to the playoffs and you got to have a bat flip moment like Bautista You got to hit a home run like Alomar did you got to have you got to have moments where it's like that's the guy That's the legend that is mr Blue jay vladigrira jr Where you can point to a playoff run or a world series run where not only does the team pull their weight? He pulls his weight too
Starting point is 00:26:41 And if that happens then again you're talking about a guy that will probably go down in history is The greatest blue jay ever based on longevity statistics and moments He's got to pull his weight when it comes to the moments We've got to have earlier guys like let's just hope he gets some kind of offense going here soon because it'll start quickly man Yes, it'll build like what the hell's going on here man. We blew 500 sheets on this guy Well, exactly like there again four games in fenway um, and then I believe they go through baltimore right on The weekend so you've you got he mashes that fenway, which he does historically love that park
Starting point is 00:27:19 But you're right. You got seven games here within the division If you go like two and five and you come home and you're seven and 10 and he hasn't hit a home run yet. And like, it's just, it will be awkward to be up there on the podium talking about a $500 million contract. $500 million contract. That's what's at stake for Vlad and the Jays and everyone involved.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So it's a big week for him. It's a massive, massive week. All right, Bruce Bujo still to come. We've got Tim Kirchner of ESPN in about an hour. The O-Dog had himself a very eventful weekend. Worst day of my life, Saturday. Worst day of your life. We will have a moment by moment breakdown
Starting point is 00:28:02 and we'll do that next. All right, Bruce Bujo coming up in just over half an hour. Feel for people that were down at Augusta today, got rained out, which means they just kick everybody off the course. Dude, imagine like flying from Asia or something for the Monday practice run, that's all you could get and you walk in and they tell you to get lost. I know. I, I.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And they say possibly you can get some kind of refund for next year's Monday. Wait, people do that? Oh, absolutely. Did you just come for the practice round? Absolutely. There's golf freaks that were like, who knows, Jonas, maybe it's all they can afford, all they can ever get their hands on, whatever. That's more of what it is, is how difficult it is to get tickets.
Starting point is 00:28:43 There's a great pick of a dude that showed up i don't know what year it was for a practice round day and he's at security and he's got his clubs on a wheelie bag and thought he got to t dot i've seen that to do and they had to pull this guy sides where on or do you think you're going?
Starting point is 00:29:09 That guy won the lottery for the practice round, which means the professionals are practicing and you can walk around and watch them. This guy thought he was putting a peg in the ground and ripping your foot across the national. They wanted to slap him right in the face here take your grubby gloves out of here the best is that he brought his own we'll be car uh... i don't need to read joe try to find a picture of this guy quickly because this guy will dot to security and with his we'll be part
Starting point is 00:29:43 and he wanted to get up with his wheelie cart and he wanted to tee it up with Jack Nicklaus at a practice round yeah it's a great I've seen sorry sir where are you going with the bag the guys got his foot joy shoes on like the security security guard saying he's saying uh... we have a guy here he thinks he's uh... playing it would probably be you're not gonna believe what i have you know right now but i said i can't turn would come from
Starting point is 00:30:15 this guy actually thinking he was teeing it up like because that would be the first glance like is this guy hammered is he a dummy that's trying to be a goof and you'd get really concerned when you realize this guy's got tees in his pocket and a couple of, and he actually thinks he's golfing. Yeah. And now you're going to have to break his heart. He totally misinterpreted the invitation. And the beauty of it is with the picture up on TV, look at the guy in the cart behind
Starting point is 00:30:42 him, looking back and being like, does that guy I think he's playing that guy thinks he's playing but yeah I've my neighbor Mike did that they he and his buddies they because you got to put your name in for a lottery whatever spits out spits out could be Monday Tuesday it could be Sunday it could be any of it and they won the lottery and they had the Tuesday I think Tuesday or the Wednesday drove all the way down played golf got there 12 noon hits give or take 12 30 alarm goes thunderstorms you're out gone never even got to go in the shop couldn't buy anything that's it and you're out they do not let you back on the grounds you can't show up the next day and say well I want to be in today they've
Starting point is 00:31:21 sold tickets for the next day so my understanding is they said next year will comp you for a date like the next year on the Tuesday, whatever it was going to be. I think they try to allow for that, but his schedule was all jammed up. He couldn't go back. He's still so rattled about it. Anyway, all right.
Starting point is 00:31:42 We started at four o'clock. Oh, you referenced how difficult was it a Saturday for you a Sunday like what's going on with you right now? Easily the worst day of my life. Okay. Explain. Here's what happened. On Tuesday, I had a root Advil. All good. All good. I leave and two days go by and I have to go to Kitchener for my daughter's volleyball tournament. It's Thursday night in Kitchener. I am hammering down Advils because the pain in my tooth, I had to go to the drugstore
Starting point is 00:32:30 and get Advil extra strength and I am hammering these at a rate that will bung up your stomach. I got a follow-up email that said, is everything good? And I'm like, I wrote on Wednesday, better than ever. As soon as I sent that email, better than ever, I went downhill into a place of pain that was undescribable. Out of 24 hours in a day, I might have had two 45-minute segments where I felt like I didn't have pain. And during those times, I would try to enjoy life, maybe have something to eat, but I knew after that it was going to be hell.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Saturday comes along and I'm about to enter the giant arena for the provincials in volleyball and on my way into the arena like I guess taking all of these ad bills it bungs you up that's scientific can you look Google that I don't know what bong means I think it means the guy like issues with his boiler basically. No, it just constipates you, okay? Right. So I haven't gone to the bathroom in days and I go into the arena and as I'm walking in five different people recognize me walking into the bathroom. They're like, hey, old dog, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:33:58 The usual. I go into the bathroom and I have to go so bad. I sit down and I've constipated and I have never experienced this in my life. And I start literally getting really nervous and my daughter texts me, my middle daughter, and she's like, Dad, you've missed the first set. Where the hell are you? So you're in there for a long time at this point. Haze, I'm not kidding you. you've missed the first set where how they are for a long time at this point i'm not kidding you
Starting point is 00:34:29 i was on the toilet in the same one for an hour and a half that's not exaggerate system howard apothec and i started sweating the people who are his i shed a couple of tears because I was really afraid of what the hell was going on No, I couldn't go to the bathroom Yeah felt like there was a football type substance in me and that would not come out And I stand up and down and I'm doing calisthenics to try to move things around
Starting point is 00:35:04 and in the midst'm doing calisthenics to try to move things around and in the midst of doing that my my sacred TSN coffee mug it falls off the toilet paper handle and onto the ground and some young guy goes hey look that's probably the old dog's coffee cup. I wanted to absolutely bury my head in the sand. But during this, I thought, I've got to call an ambulance. And all I could picture was all the five dudes that recognized me going in there are going to see me getting wheeled out in a Mike Modano gurney with my pants around my ankles out of the bathroom. And this is gonna be the end of my life. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:35:47 So I decide I gotta keep trucking on. I've gotta get in to watch some volleyball. I'm telling you, I waddle like a penguin into the court because I'm afraid, I don't know what the hell's going on. I ultimately gotta go back into the bathroom for a number one and as soon as I commence that it's game over because the other side is telling me let's get back to work. It was just the worst day ever.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I go to leave the building and I'm trying to turn my car and there's a boulder at the end of the parking lot that just rips the bottom of my front fender off. So then I'm at the front and everyone's looking at the bottom of my fender and another mom comes to help me rip it off. And as I'm ripping the bottom part of the thing off so i can drive my truck my front three teeth the bridge spits out no onto the fender and i could smell certain things and i just thought to myself
Starting point is 00:36:57 this is the worst position i've fit my this is for ladies trying to help me and I smell like an outhouse. My front chips just fell onto my fender. What kind of hip is still there? It was the worst. Oh my god. So your teeth, like when you were in the studio like six months ago when your teeth popped out. The exact same thing. What's with these teeth dude you got to figure this out man like between root canals and bridges and Advils and constipation a lot of people point out the constipators back did you ever hear that
Starting point is 00:37:35 story Jonas there was a guy doing some absolutely heinous things throughout the city he was throwing feces at people. We created a superhero to catch this guy. To catch a guy and someone wrote in and said the O-Dog needs to be named the constipator because he is the superhero that's gonna go find him. The crab stops here. And evidently the O-Dog lived up to his name over the course of the weekend. Couple follow-upsups if you will did you get your tsn mug back i hope you did i hope you did someone must have picked it up and left somebody
Starting point is 00:38:11 picked it up and left it at the hand was out of the company i do have you getting rolled out dude and some of our young people as i was crying yeah all i could think of is i'm getting because I I seriously contemplated calling an ambulance Oh that is panic behavior. Oh, yeah, that is I don't know what this is like. Am I the do I have a serious issue? I'm googling panic scrolling on my phone And I'm like I got to get my daughter who's 15 years old to call an ambulance to come and get me not in the arena years old to call an ambulance to come and get me, not in the arena, in the bathroom. All I could think about is the people's reaction seeing me in the Mike Modano cart, go wheeling
Starting point is 00:38:52 out and dropping me on the floor with no pants on. There's Jeff O'Neill. Yeah, there he is. There goes Jeff O'Neill. That was the end of it. I saw the end of the O-Duck falling off the gurney car in front of the ambulance with no pants on. Oh my god and imagine you getting to the hospital in a situation like that like I don't know if that's ever happened. Doogie maybe do a Google search if it's
Starting point is 00:39:17 possible. Is there surgery that could possibly happen there? No dude they would have said take some like a take a like digestive thing right yeah they would dual softener. Oh Jesus. Jonas do you have any follow-ups on that? Have you ever heard anything more ridiculous in your life? No I was wondering if anyone knocked on the door while you were in there and be like not one person. Wow. Well there could have easily been guys that have had to like take two or three number ones in the duration. I was in the bathroom for an hour and a half. Yeah, I would just love to know what your daughters were thinking. Like the idea that
Starting point is 00:39:51 you're there for a significant competition and your middle daughter's like, dude, what are you doing? Like this is a match that is currently undergoing. Well, just think of the first set of the match. It was like 25 to 21 and I couldn't see one point because I was on the toilet. We got to get you some antibiotics. Like where are we now with the teeth? Like what are we dealing with in terms of the... I've got some swelling but I've rectified things and I'm back on the right track.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But there was a point on Saturday night like I was sitting at the end of the bed and I'm like I just I can't make this pain go away it's but now I'm totally all set okay so we're clean we're clear everything's moving in the right direction we are a hundred times okay I love it like there was a point when my cup hit the floor and and and I heard the guy said oh that's probably old said to myself, this is the worst my life has ever been. I've had a great life, man. That's rock bottom, man. And the fact that you're associated with that, like something rolling on a bathroom floor,
Starting point is 00:40:57 it's got to be Jeff O'Neil. They didn't say it could have been Duffy. And to think that at that particular time, that is the worst thing I've ever... Oh man. Like the idea of, again, the paramedics storming into the washroom. Yes. Where is he? Like breaking down a car.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Exactly. Where is he at? Jeff is talking to them and saying, well, sir, where are you? I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom hallucinating and I need an epidural immediately. Like immediately I need an epidural immediately Because I have something coming here that's gonna cause me Dude we've seen way oh my god I need to know who who got the cup who had the mug why they left it there because that's another scene like you getting
Starting point is 00:41:44 mug, why they left it there, because that's another scene. Like you getting gurneyed out and some guy stopping you. Medano style. Medano. And they Medano'd me right in front of the four guys that said hi. Yes. It's the worst ending to a guy's life. You fall over and they're like what's wrong with this guy? And it's and then you go through the whole story as to why you're there and then some guy walks in and goes i think you dropped your tsn mark uh... i'm not going to get seen before you rush off to the hospital don't forget about your mug
Starting point is 00:42:11 that you dropped in the washer if somebody had a lot of me of video that he took of me walking from the bathroom to the volleyball court i would pay him to thirty thousand cash so i would i i i would i was not i have a little fun with immediately immediately was in still is just at the most x insane experience and you look back on it and you think why was i so panicky like it was just kind of a normal but it did it felt really good it was bad news man like i'm not there's something seriously wrong here
Starting point is 00:42:43 how many adils did you take i was hammering for every hour and a half yes i've got a sense of cause a lot of problems man that's gonna cause a lot of problems like that at a minimum you've learned a lesson here right and i'd like your your dentist i think these to get to the bottom of this too because you gotta get way harder drugs or some antibiotics before and after.
Starting point is 00:43:07 That was the issue. It's all good. Yeah, you got it. Okay, everyone's on the up and up here. Everyone's okay, but what an ordeal. Jonas, any follow ups? I'm out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Well, we appreciate you grinding through. You're going to give us one more segment, then you got to go clear right i'd do it not my head my face like i got to know my face cam is that a more that pun i thought you're going to rose no uh... there's a lot of other puns available here okay so most people don't share trials i'd love that you just were willing to share that because that is
Starting point is 00:43:41 just one of the all-time great stories in the constipators back he never left this is kinda like you know in between the batman movies the the revenge of the constipator but you know when christian bail he he's he's got out for a while and he's all decrepit knees and then he returns and then you see the batman in the bat signal that's what the old dog just revealed to the world the constipator has not been in action for the better part of five, six years. He's back and he's better than ever.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Oh, don't kid yourself. When it signaled to me the second time around that I had to get back on the can, I basically did a pole vault high jump to the top rope in a Greg Louganis onto the toilet to get there as fast as I could because I knew it was Alright worst day of my life. I love it. What a way to start Masters week we're back and we're better we're better than ever the definition of The constipator he's back and he's better than ever. I love it. All right We got Bruce Boudreaux coming up at about 15 Bruce. He could have been in a position like that at some point We're not gonna ask him that should be a new segment the worst day of my life should be a new segment. The worst day of my life. I wouldn't ask any of that. The worst day of my life.
Starting point is 00:44:46 The worst day of my life. Brought to you by the O-Dog. Brucey's coming up in about 15. Tim Kirch and coming up. Jay's at Fenway tonight. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Bruce Bujold coming up on Alex Ovechkin scoring 895 goals in the NHL eight hundred ninety five and just does it in incredible fashion albeit they lost but I don't think they cared about wins and losses yesterday like this is a huge relief for the team as well I'm curious what Buddha has to say about that and it's I'm glad I bet you the team is glad of the timing too because they got I don't think they play until Thursday. And it's a great time for a meeting, joke's over now. We did our party, Ovi did his thing, now we gotta get,
Starting point is 00:45:32 because they're not playing well right now. Right, exactly. Defensively they've been really bad. Yeah, you gotta snap out of it. Like you're the one seeing these. Absolutely. Perfect timing. Yep, get it done, move on. And go chase the Stanley Cup, that's their plan, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:45:46 All right, O, let us know where we are, man. Let us know where things stand as of tonight. Two at-hills per four hours. Is that what it's recommended? Two per four hour increments, not four per hour. Dude, I did what I thought was survival mode, man. I did what I thought was necessary, and I didn't know that it would lock me in a bathroom for an hour and a half
Starting point is 00:46:09 we need a plaque of you in that bathroom in kitchener this is the home of the old times constipator story uh... by pal well we'll catch in here tomorrow four o'clock alice brother will be in here as well as can be a be a very, very big show tomorrow. Can't wait. There he is, the old dog, Jeff O'Neill. All right, Bruce Boudreau coming up.
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