OverDrive - OverDrive - August 13, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Keegan Matheson and Dave Feschuk for Hour 3 on OverDrive! Host of the Stinkin Truth Podcast Mark Schlereth joins to discuss the headlines from around the NFL, Shedeur Sanders' poise at quarterback and the Bills' overview in the AFC. Buffalo Bisons manager Casey Candaele joins to dive into the coaching views of the team, Shane Bieber's performance on the mound and Trey Yesavage's debut with the roster and the FanDuel Best Bets.

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bets later in the hour. Jay's Cubs tonight. I don't even look at the weather app anymore. I just know it's 30 degrees sunny every single day. Perfect. I was going to say, it feels like a roof open night. When has the roof been closed? Not a lot. Yeah, a lot of big roof open season. I like it. Good breeze running through, man. So I like to get there. I get there about 30 minutes early, to do my job well, but just to dry off. Yeah, a little dry off. A little towel down. By the time everyone else walks in, I look like I'm an okay shape. I love it. Good summer.

They retoed the stadium. Have they done much to the press box? We're in deep left field out by the foul pole now on the 300 level. Nice digs. Nice digs. Different view. Do I know if it's a fastball or a curveball? Not always. But they take good care of us. Good digs out there. The old Argos press box. The old CFL press box. Yes. Where that used to be. But, man, good view, can't complain. I keep myself back in the corner away from everyone else.

I love it. I don't play too well with others. Yeah, that's where I was sitting for the bat flip. Yeah. 2015, because there was so much media down there. That was the auxiliary press box back then. Yes, absolutely. So, like, when I got down there, I'm like, where are they going to have me?

Like, I'm not an everyday press box guy. And I think Hedge was, like, behind huge. Hedge had a supreme seat. The headliner. Yeah, there was a headliner. I think Scotty Mac was there. I believe Scotty Mac was still doing stuff there. He was in a prime spot.

He had his spot. And then I got up there like, oh, yeah, you got to go way down there. I'm like, that's fine. No problem, man. And it was a beautiful site being in that building. The three of us were in there. Oh, Nudels and I were all in different spots. You were all there.

Yeah, O was in the seats. Nudels was in like a press box with like a rock star. Of course. Yeah. And I was out and left. field. But it was a beautiful thing. Dome was closed. That's one afternoon baseball. One of the great moments in Toronto sports

history. Yeah, it really is. It's nothing short of that. No. Well, it's interesting, like Joe from the bridge, who runs the whole operation on our TV side, he's been putting up different, you know, stats and everything as we talk during the show. The Js are obviously 70 and 50, right? 70 wins through 120 games. I noticed, no more referencing the 2015 or 2016 Blue Jays, Joe's going right to 92. Wow. Now we're going to 92, right? Because the 15 and 16 teams, well revered, love those guys, ALCS, ALCS, but if we're going to start bringing in the early 90s teams,

that is a completely different level of expectation. People aren't celebrating semi-finalists anymore. That's how you know. Exactly. Getting a little big rate down. If we're starting to really feel ourselves as a sports town and Blue Jay fans are getting a little bit crazy here, I'm bypassing 15 and 60. What were we doing at 92? Yes. That's serious business. That is serious. I like that. Joe from the bridge on top of it. Yeah. Hey man, well, you look at it like, you know, the Cubs in town, they handle them easy yesterday. I saw Pedro Martinez, of all people, was tweeting out that he believes in the Blue Jays because of the way they've played against the good teams.

Right. And you look at it, they're 38 and 29 against teams that are over 500, which is the third best record against teams over 500 in Major League Baseball. the brewers who are better than one, 12 in a row, Milwaukee. And Seattle. So, you know, how significant you think that is, Keegan? That's big time. They're playing good teams well. And we've seen them play some bad teams, like a dud, it's going to happen. But I think they have one of the best records in baseball against those above 500 teams. Yeah. And that's how you know they're not fraudulent. And that's how you know their style of play holds up. And I agree with what Phillips was saying earlier that we always talk about, man, you need to get a home run against the good pitcher.

This is the type of lineup that's built to give a good play. pitcher fits because if you're facing Scoobel or Max Freed, they're used to striking out everybody. Suddenly they're not. You've got them out of their comfort zone and you go from there. But man, it's legitimate. This is not just a team on a little miracle run that's fun

and everyone's smiling. It's legitimate what they're doing. I didn't see it coming, but it's very real, solid. They've hit Freed well this year. They've not had an issue running into Max Free. Yeah. That's a good sign. Yeah, that is a good sign. I mean, I thought Shapiro was it. You know, Mark

Shapiro spoke to the media yesterday and a bit of a surprise availability right keegan and you know it was interesting that you know the way he was characterizing the team and talking about how it hasn't been about the stars it's been about the collective it's been about all for one one for all and you know and it's we've we've created an identity and i think that's you know it's it's kind of you know you could call that corporate speak and executive talk and and babble but but but on a and it's a rare moment where I think Mark Shapiro was actually saying something that's relatable. You know, because I think there's some truth to it.

Yeah, we're watching. He was up in the 500 level. Yesterday with the Relatable. Yeah, the gate 14 guys. He's been on their pod before. Those guys, big, big, Blue Jay fans and yeah, you don't really see that too often out of executives. You know, I mean, listen, again, there's

seven, is he going up there if they're 50 and 70? I don't think so. I don't know if Mark's going to make his way up there. He's a smart guy. He knows timing. He knows timing. 70 and 50. He was up there when Clement hit that home run. It was really cool. And listen, those are those are, quote, unquote, the real fans.

You're up in the 500. I think the home run happens right here for the people watching the video. He walks right up. There he is. Yeah, and there's Johnny and Avery and those guys, those are good guys. And they do a really good job with their pod. And Shapiro's been on with them before. And Mark's always been good to us. He's always come on. He'll come on. Ross will come on.

And, yeah, that was a pretty cool moment last night. I want to see it, though, in the future, if they're 50. and 70. You've got to get up there. Well, that's the thing. You've got to walk up there when that happens. But 70 and 50, you're cooking right now? Everyone's happy. Oh, I'd be up there every day.

I'd be drinking beers with the fans. I want to see him walking around the stands every single night now. I mean, there's a lot that I'm not conspiratorial, but, you know, he doesn't have a contract. Oh, yeah, he's playing of the crowd, playing of the people, man. It's an interesting moment to be doing that. The mob's got a lot of power in every town. All right, here he is the host of the Stink of Truth podcast.

Super Bowl winner. You see him on Fox all the time. Here's Mark Schler. How you doing, Mark? I'm doing great. How are you guys? We're doing very, very well. We were just talking about the Dallas Cowboys about 15 minutes ago, and we were throwing around the idea that they could return to the playoffs this year.

I'm curious how you'd answer that. Do you think the Dallas Cowboys can and will be a playoff team? Oh, yeah, I think they certainly can be a playoff team, and I would predict them probably to be one of those teams that's fighting in for a wildcar birth, and I would think they'd get in the playoffs, and then they'll do what they do all the time. when they get in the playoffs, and that's take a dump in their helmets. But, you know, they'll get there, but they'll soil themselves when they're there.

You know, and I was saying this on the Singings Truth podcast just the other day. Make sure you check it out on YouTube if you give the opportunity. But Dallas Cowboys are simply the Jacksonville Jaguars with better marketing. That's all they are. And so, yeah, they're the most valuable franchise in the National Football League. They have not won a divisional round playoff game since, 1995. Like they are

so well marketed and you know they've got the star and they're America's team and they're the most valued franchise in the world and yet we all know what'll happen. They will make a playoff push and then like I said

they'll take a big giant herkin dump in their helmets and they'll be out watching it like you and I are watching it. Yeah. Yeah, I would expect the same thing man. Yeah. And speaking of helmets, by the way, hell of an image there, Mark, and there's been a lot of talk about helmets because Aaron

Rogers has had to change helmets. He said he'd been wearing the same brand of helmet for 20 years, but suddenly the one he was wearing last year is not legal anymore according to safety standards and he's got to wear a new one that he says looks like a spaceship. I mean, in your playing career, how attached

were you to your helmet and how averse to change were you? Yeah, I mean, it's what you're comfortable with, right? I mean, of course, in my time, the helmets didn't change. If you look at the helmet I wore in 1989 when I entered the league and the one I wore in 2000 when I exit the league, it's essentially exactly the same helmet. There were no technological advances because back then, you know, the league ended up just telling us there weren't in such thing

as concussions and, you know, and that if you got, you know, you were soft if you got a head injuries. So it was a different time, to be sure, but there were no advancements in technology. And you do. You grow, like, you grow accustomed to the gear that you wear. And so, you know, your helmet is one of those things where, like, I always, I always, like, I like my helmet, right? And it was interesting, man, I'm playing a game in green May in December. It was colder than, I mean, just colder than balls. And I broke my helmet in the middle of a drive. and one of the backups throws his helmet to me, you know, from the sideline. And, of course, one of the things we always do, especially in cold weather,

we've got those heated benches. On top of the heated benches, there's these little vent pipes, but they're designed to hang your helmet on. And you've probably seen it before, so you put your helmet on. Then when you put your helmet back on to go out, it's nice and toasty warm. And, you know, it's pliable, and it feels great, and you're like, oh, this is awesome. So I get a helmet thrown that the backup is just holding on to him. and holding on to for, you know, three quarters.

And he throws it in, and it literally, one, it was about three sizes too big. Two, it was like putting on an ice box, like an ice, like a, just like an ice tray. I mean, it was miserable, and so I'm blopping around out there while they're trying to fix my helmet. So you really do, you really do have certain things you like, certain helmets you like, things that just feel like they fit you well. And, yeah, that would be, I'd have a tough time with that. I'd have a tough time changing my gear.

when I've grown accustomed to wearing one certain type of helmet. So those are real things. You know, those are like, to me, that's a real thing for Aaron Rogers. Mark, I think Aaron Rogers has always been a very particular guy. He other loves the helmet or hates it. He loves the receiver, hates it, loves the router hates it. What do you think about this new match with him in Pittsburgh? I want to see how him and Mike Tomlin work together.

I'd love to see them become that odd couple and really make it work. But do you think he still has any of that magic left from back in the day? or is this kind of the end of the decline here? What do you think with Aaron Rogers? Dude, at the end of the last season, man, he was playing good football, like really good football. And like I call a game of his in December, so I'm there, Jets in Jacksonville and in Jacksonville,

and I sit down and talk with him probably 45 minutes, and he and I've been really good friends for a long time, and we've got this kind of a vuncular relationship where I'll call him out on his BS, and he's kind of last. And he knows it comes from a place where I actually love the guy. I really do care for him. And he's phenomenal. He's one of the best quarterbacks I have ever witnessed play.

And it was so interesting. So Sunday we have a little talk. You know, he's on the field. He goes to warm up. And I'm watching him throw versus a bunch of 25-year-olds on each team. Mack Jones was one of the guys out there. And it's legitimately night and day coming out of his hand compared to the other guys. I mean, you want to talk about spinning it.

effortlessly with just jumps out of his freaking hand, and it's on receivers right now. And it was, like, it was palpable. It was, like, it was so different watching the 25-year-olds throw the football and watching Aaron Rogers at 40 throw the football. And I'm just like, dude, if this guy can stay healthy. And last year, you know, it wasn't publicized, but he had a twisted ankle, a hamstring, a knee that was really bothered him early in the season. And, you know, and then they had no running.

game, the Jets were just a, like, they're just a dysfunction. Like, I was rooting through game balls I had the other day. I just found a box of game balls cleaning out a closet. And one of them was for the Jets, you know, a win against the Jets. And I just kind of chuckled to myself. Like, nobody should get a game ball for beating the Jets. Like, that's just like standard operating procedure because they are that dysfunctional. So I'm really looking forward. I like Arthur Smith, their offensive coordinator. I like the way he runs the football. And Aaron's big about, you know, we need to run the ball well. We need to set up our play action, our run action, play action, our play pass. And none of that, you know, none of that was a staple

for us last year. So I'm really, I'm like me personally, if he's healthy, man, that dude can flat out play. So even at 41, I think it'll be a great fit. Well, one of the teams and one of the quarterbacks that will get to face the Jets twice this year would, of course, be Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. And the bills ended up signing James Cook. He gets a four-year extension, about $30 million guaranteed. It's 16 touchdowns last year, rushing for over 1,000 yards.

I have very high expectations for the bills. They've won the division five years in a row, but do you see enough, you know, year over year to allow you to envision a Super Bowl championship this year for the bills? Yeah, it really comes down to can Josh Allen

out duel Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game? You know, and more, it's more so the coaching, like, you know, the coaching for the Buffalo Bills, they seem to pucker up when it's Patrick Mahomes and it's, you know, and it's a playoff game. And so they're going to have to get over the hump, just like the Baltimore Ravens are going to have to do the same thing to get over the hump of Patrick Mahomes. I mean, the thing about Patrick Mahomes, the guy's phenomenal. And if you give him the ball last, you lose. That's the way it works.

So, yeah, like, you've got to be able to beat that guy. And that franchise, and they have so much confidence in what they do right now. But I love the way the Buffalo Bills are built. You know, it went from, oh, what are we going to do? We're going to get rid of stuff on Diggs, and we're going to get rid of some receivers. And they didn't miss a beat, man. They got a solid, really solid group up front.

Their offensive line is really good. Josh, you know, does a phenomenal job, not only from the pocket, but his ability to run the football. They became so much more balanced, you know, and everybody was like it was funny because I think Brandon Bean is their, GM, and everybody was on him about, oh, they don't have receivers. You got to go out and get a receiver, and personally, it's the most overrated position in football. And he said, no, you know, we're going to go with balance.

We're going to be fine. And you see the results. Now it's just about getting over the hump to come that AFC championship game or when you play whenever it is that you play the Kansas Chiefs. Speaking of the Chiefs, Mark, we were just having a conversation about Travis Kelsey, who of course is the most famous NFL player probably on a account of the fact he dates the most famous person on the planet in Taylor Swift, and there's a big podcast coming out in a, what, 45 minutes with Taylor on with Jason and Travis Kelsey. But when it comes to the actual act of playing football, Travis has kind of acknowledged in a recent

interview with GQ that, you know, he hasn't been up to his standard the last couple of years, maybe let the trappings of celebrity get the best of him at times. He's trying to get back to what he was before that, but he's age 35 now. How do you sort of handicap his chances of refining the magic and getting that Chiefs team over the hump and a Super Bowl again? Yeah, well, his Super Bowl was an embarrassment without question. But I still look at that and say, okay, so his Super Bowl was embarrassing. He still had something crazy, like 98 catches.

He still had close to 1,000 yards. The guy still is incredibly productive. And so I would sit there, and I would tell you, you know, Travis killed. He had 97 catches 823 and 3 TDs. And I'll tell you, like, his blocking in the Super Bowl, me, he got his ass kick. There was a couple of effort plays that were embarrassing for him. And I think that's really the reason. Like, if they win that game, I think he marches off in the sunset and is part of her roadie crew.

But, like, he came back because he, did have that taste in his mouth. He didn't play well. Man, I had some of that film where I went out and just, I just laid an egg, where I went out and just got my ass kick. And it's one of those things that's embarrassing. You're like, I hope that film gets burnt and has never seen again. But it's there forever. And so, you know, he wants to be able to wash that taste out of his mouth. And, you know, by all accounts, he's lost a lot of weight. He looks really good. I know he practices it butt off. I've talked to several of the coaches in there. They're like, we have to manage him because that dude is just

full go. And, you know, you look at the number of snaps he has based on the time he came in the league to any other tight end that's been in the league that amount of time. And he's got, I mean, it's over a thousand more snaps than anybody, maybe more than that. So they've got to manage him well, but still, like that's, that guy still runs routes like a quarterback. He and, you know, he and Mahomes have a connection like they went to Hogwarts together. You know, they're incredible. And if he's in shape, man, and he's committed or recommitted to football, I think he'll have a real productive season, like a big-time productive season,

where he's close to 1,000 yards receiving, you know, maybe 8, 9 TDs and, you know, another 90-plus catch season. With Super Bowl champ, Fox analyst, Stink and Truth podcast host, Mark Schlerth. Mark, we were talking Shadur Sanders earlier, of course, constant conversation around the Cleveland Browns quarterback room. And I was listening to one of your last episodes of Stinking Truth. I loved your comments on Shador looking at that preseason game he had. Looks like he's going to miss the next one, but his first one.

And I come at this with a fantasy football brain of I like the highlights. I like the stat line, cool. But you were speaking about something else, how he handled that pocket and how important that is. Can you tell us more about that? Yeah, like one of the things I loved about him, now I was up at CU last spring. I was helping Dion out last spring. So I got to see it firsthand in practice. And one of the things, you know, we get as scouts and the scouting departments, I mean, they know, they don't know much about football, right?

They're scouting, they're scouting measurable, like 40 times and arm strength and jumping over. boxes and a bunch of stuff that truly doesn't matter. And when you really look at Shadour, his ability to layer the football, his ability to be on time, his ability to throw it accurately, those are the things that matter and his ability to manipulate the pocket. I said this a million times when Tom Brady was playing. I go, that guy is the best scrambler in football, and he never moves out of the pocket. The guy just suddenly slides from side to side, not looking at the rush, but feeling the rush, moving, buying himself another half a second, and then throw an absolute money ball.

And that's exactly what should do or did. So all these scouts and all these professional guys who evaluated talking about, well, he doesn't have elite level athleticism. So what? I don't care. And you don't need it at the quarterback position. Does he have elite-level pocket presence? And the answer to that was yes. When you watched him, now did he hold the ball too long at times?

Absolutely. Why? Because he wanted to make big plays. You know, I get that part of it. But I'm just telling you, accuracy. And I will say this, too, you can't be accurate if you're not on time. And, like, you have to be on time. So that comes down to how you set up your footwork.

and you know and when you're ready to deliver the football and if you're late with the ball well bad things are always going to happen to you so I looked at those things arm strength arm talent you know people will talk about oh man he threw the ball 70 yards in the air who gives it crap like ultimately what how many times you're going to be able to do that

you're two times a year when you throw a hell Mary otherwise a go route comes down between 47 and 52 yards and a go route by the way is throwing off a five-step drop because the receivers can outrun the quarterback's arm. So you don't ever throw it 70 yards in a game, like that stuff is

irrelevant to me. And I hear guys talk about that, and I'm just like, this is such a bunch of hooey. And, you know, and we get all excited because the guy's got a big arm. You know who had a big arm? Anthony Richardson, how's he looked so far in Indianapolis? Oh, he could run, though, right?

Yeah. Man, he could jump over boxes. Maybe the greatest athlete we've ever seen play. That dude ain't worth a score to piss. And, you know, and ultimately, until you learn how to play quarterback, I don't care about all the ancillary garbage that we end up evaluating that doesn't mean anything. He is Mark Schlerth, the Stinking Truth podcast. You can find it on YouTube.

You can download it wherever you download your pods. You see them on the NFL on Fox. Always great catching up with you. Thank you, Mark. You guys got to take care. There he is, Mark Schlerth. always colorful analysis with Mark. But yeah,

he's obviously a Shradur Sanders fan. I don't know if the Browns are. That's the question. Is he going to make the team? Is he going to play? Mel Kuiper joined the bandwagon, you know? Yeah. Start ranting and raving. Mel Kuiper, man, putting his whole career on the line for Shudor. Is he being set up to fail as is a popular narrative down in the States right now?

The idea that they've sort of sent him up here with this bizarre hierarchy of quarterback on which he ranks forth somehow. I mean, it is a strange situation in Cleveland. And that's, you know, even if you're rooting for the kid, which I think Mark Schleris clearly is, because he's worked with him and he knows Dion and he's got a

relationship there. And he just likes the kid's talent. I mean, even if you're rooting for him and you believe in his talent, do you believe in the Browns to bring out the best in him? Well, that ultimately is at the bottom of this, that even if somehow he prevails here, makes the team,

ends up getting starts, you're still the quarterback for the brown. Right. Like that mixed with success is an oxymoron. It doesn't happen. It cannot happen. So at best, you get in, you get a chance to show yourself, they screw

it up, you get out, you do a Baker Mayfield's doing. Yes. Right? Redeem yourself somewhere else. Jump around the league a little bit, find a home. Like, I love what Baker represents now. I love Baker Mayfield. I love his story. I love the way he plays. I love his approach. And he just had to get out of Cleveland.

Yeah, where he was basically called a bust, right? Yeah, exactly. He's the hope for everybody now. Yeah. Get out of your own personal Cleveland. Get out of your own place. And that's when you look, you know, Sam Darnold's the other story. But Baker Mayfield's the ultimate one, man. That's right. When's the last time the Browns brought out the best in someone? Juan, Darnel, who drafted him? Yes. The New York Jets. There's the other team. Same team's over and it's, it's not a coincidence. You go down through the Browns. I'm thinking Colt McCoy, Brandon Whedon, who they drafted. drafted at age 75, you know, down through.

Baker Mayfield, these recent ones, and it's going to happen again because it's in the water. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it is. It's, no, it's, yeah. Unfortunately, it's just the truth. That's, I remember saying that after he got drafted. I'm like, okay, you waited five rounds, but the Browns took you.

Yeah. Like, I'd rather go on the sixth round to any other team. And it's just such a strange circumstance. Yeah, no, thank you. And you've got the owner disavowing the pick basically saying I had nothing. Yeah, it wasn't me, man. That's on the GM. Go talk to the GM.

Let's talk to him. Yeah. I mean. Gong show. I mean, for a guy who, you know, was a fifth round pick, it's, it's an incredibly, it's an incredibly interesting storyline. Yeah, it is. And a lot of that, of course, is he's Dion's kid. Yes.

And, you know, what he did at Colorado, which is a non-conventional, it's not a powerhouse school by any means. But, you know, and he's, he's got talent. Like, clearly he's got talent. So let's see what happens. best bets coming up later in the hour. Casey Candell, the Bison's manager, will join us. They lost earlier today. He saw Alec Manoa up

close and personal. Trey Savage is going to start for them coming up later this week. What does he know about him? What kind of details can he give us on the projection for him the rest of the year? George Springer has been cleared. He's going to be playing for the Bisons tomorrow. So we'll catch up with the manager down in Buffalo.

We'll do that next. All right, best bets later in the hour on Jay's Cubs tonight. Kevin Gosman on the mound for the Jays and good news today George Springer cleared so he'll be back tomorrow down in Buffalo he's going to have a rehab start probably what do you think

a couple games down there in Buffalo max maybe one two at the most yeah he made big time and I'll take a couple hacks and then have the car ready oh yeah keep the car running yes like George may give it the old I'm out of here after about five innings

and you don't want to do two rounds of the veteran spread down there too. You know, you've got to buy steak and lobster for all the fellas. Yeah. A couple A-Bs, get back up the road and, you know, you don't want to spend too many nights in Buffalo. Well, that's another part. You know, his, I'm sure his bed here is a little comfier.

Big leaguers are accustomed to a certain life. Yeah, as they should be. I mean, this guy's making a lot of money. He's made a lot of money. He's won a World Series MVP. Yeah. You know, I wonder what the play is when they go down to Buffalo. Like, I got to think, you know, like, obviously, wings. I would, would you

be surprised at all if some of the other guys in the Blue J Clubhouse basically sent an order down with him. Like if you're going down there, bring back beef on whack? Like, yeah. If you had that, that's a Buffalo delicacy. Exactly. Bring back about 15 pounds of the best. Yes. Like, I don't think that would be on call for, right? You want like car trunk, beef on whack? I don't know.

That's just outside of the food range. It's a long delivery. Maybe not, but wings you could do. Wings. Oh, yeah. Like wings you could do for sure. You reheat them? Absolutely. Put those, yeah. Like I would send an order down with George. Absolutely.

Like if you're going down there, you got to understand something. You're bringing back wings and you're going to find the best possible place. So you think that's man in the way? Like I would be my wheel as I would love that. I just don't know if George would like it. Yeah. George doesn't have an option. That's what's true.

And I'll tell you what, when I was living down in Buffalo during those COVID stints down there, a month at a time or another month, I was staying at the Marriott next to the ballpark where I think that a lot of folks use that. and the amount of delivery wings order. Oh, I might have averaged 1.1 a day. Like, I think I went over the one average. Yeah, dude.

There wasn't much else to do. Non-stop, man. Non-stop. Like, do you want, like, and I wonder, too, like, what is the, what's the duty tariff situation on being the wing mule? Yeah, do you have to claim wings? I guess you've got to claim wings on the way home. How many dozen can you get over?

At what point do you, like, does the guy look at you and say, are you serious? Like, 100 pounds? Like, 10 pounds is okay, but 50 pounds. these. Blattie gave me a thousand cash and he just said as many wings as you can get. I think you can tell the border officer, I'm George Springer. You need to get lucky. If you're a friend's reliever

some of them get a bit of a heart. I think you're probably right. I'll bet you the manager of the Bisons can come and go whichever way you chooses. Oh yeah. He wants to bring a hundred pounds of wings across the border. He could do it. There he is. Buffalo Bison's manager. Here's Casey Kandel. How you doing, Casey?

That is true and I'm doing fine. Well, if you ever do that, let us know, because we'll place an order, and if you can get them up here, that would be great. No, yeah, nope, I bring them over every day. Okay, I love it. I love it. But what somehow got us into that conversation is that,

I guess George Springer's coming over the border, and George will be in your lineup tomorrow. And, you know, you've had a lot of vets who have come down and rehabed and, you know, made their way back up. But when you get a guy like George, who's won a World Series, won a World Series MVP, is having a phenomenal season. Is there excitement that comes with a guy like Springer kicking around your clubhouse tomorrow?

Well, George is really boring, so it's like, you know, it's not that fun. No, it is. George is great. He was actually working out with us in Worcester when we were there this last week, and he was just trying to get cleared to get back to start playing again. And it's always exciting to get, you know, a player of his magnitude, you know, with our players, just to be able to talk to him and kind of share kind of the things he's experienced. And they get a kick out of him being here and just watch it and play. It's always a pleasure.

Hey, so you've got a big stream of big leaguers, former big leaguers, rehabbers coming through this week. You had a pretty good view of Alec Manoa today. We saw the stat line. We saw the highlights. But what was your impression of that? and not just the performance, but how Alec felt about it, how the whole day went? You know, it's just getting back into, like, competitive baseball.

He's been out for a while, and, you know, getting on the mound at the AAA level is just kind of getting his feet wet again. I know that he wanted to throw better and wanted to throw longer, but it really was a situation of just getting him out there and getting him and throwing some pitches and getting him back into the groove. So that was accomplished, so, you know, I'm sure he'll be back to throw again, and I'm sure it'll get better each time. Well, you're going to see Shane Bieber throw on Friday, Casey,

and you've seen him throw before that, too. There's a ton of excitement in Toronto about what a former Cy Young winner could bring to this Blue Jays rotation. What have you seen from Bieber so far that would maybe add to that excitement? I mean, basically with guys of his pedigree that have a history of success and, you know, how long he's pitched. You know, it was the same with Max when he was here. They go out and they know what they want to accomplish and they throw the ball where they want and they throw their pitches where they want, you know, like, and so it's beautiful to watch, actually.

and it's not and you kind of watch it and you go it's not surprising to see how much why he's had so much success but you know he's getting back into it and he's he's competitive I think the last time he threw

and when he threw it for us and Worcester he was supposed to throw I think I think it was 75 pitches and he was he was supposed to come out at 75 and he got he got to 75 and it didn't matter if the guy was hitting or not

he was supposed to come out and I went to take him out and he waved me off so he was like he wanted to finish the hitter and that was in a triple a game so I mean having that kind of competitiveness in a triple a game and still wanting to finish the hitter when he knew he had thrown his allotted amount of pitches was you know that that's kind of a test of it kind of attitude that those kind of guys have how does that conversation work afterwards with Ross Atkins when Ross is wondering why he didn't come out at 75. Do you just say, Shane can go talk to him or what? Yeah, I, you know, he said that, he, and Shane said that's on me.

And I said, yeah, you know, you could cost me my job. But I'm not, you know, if I, I'm starting to walk out to the man and he's waving me off. And so I look at the, it was, um, um, uh, Pip was there. The medical guy was there with Shane, and he was like, okay, let him go. And so he finished with like three more pitches and guys. I think he punched the guy out, and that was it. So it was not a situation we were going to let him throw 15 more pitches, but it was a couple more.

And it is always like that kind of decision you have to make is like, is it, oh, you know, we're going to let him do this or not? And I think it was like two or three pitches more, so it was okay. And he did say after, you know, I'll take responsibility. for it. I said, yeah, but I still can lose my job. So let's not do that anymore. No, let's stop right there. We appreciate you're still

gainfully employed with Casey Candell, the manager of the Bisons. Casey, one of the other big names you've got coming through on a big week coming up for the Bison's, Trayy Savage, number one prospect who there's a lot of talk about up in Toronto now that it feels like he's close, feels like he could be an option for this team

down the stretch. What have you experienced with the guy so far, heard about him coming up from other folks in this system? I mean, you know, he's advanced for his age and for how long he's been in professional baseball, you know, so that, that in and of itself is kind of, you know, a gauging point where you can see, you know, this guy is obviously more mature in the game than other people his age, so that's a good sign. I think he's going to come up here. he's, you know, obviously when they come up to AAA guys that are coming from

AA, they have to start using the Major League Baseball. So that is a little bit of adjustment period for most guys usually. But, you know, just talking to him and getting feedback on where he's coming from. He has a good idea of what he's trying to accomplish and kind of stays with his game plan. And like I said, he's advanced as a pitcher for his age and for how much time he's spent in, you know, professional baseball. baseball. So I'm looking forward to seeing it, and I know everybody in Toronto is also, so you know, we'll find out tomorrow. And of course, you don't judge it by one start or

anything, but, you know, it's just fun too. And it's fun and exciting to get somebody, you know, that's coming in and they're thought of so highly. Okay, so you talk about the adjustment to the major league ball. What's, you know, what is the biggest difference between the AAA ball and the major league ball? Well, now they use the major league ball in AAA, so in AA they're using a different ball. Gotcha. And it's basically the seams and the grip, and it's just, it's not bigger or anything like that, but the seams are not as raised as the balls in the lower levels of the minor leagues.

It used to be where in AAA you still use the minor league baseball, which was a little different, and then you would have to adjust when you went to the big leagues. Now they're using major league. league balls at the AAA level, so they get a chance to throw those balls before they go to the Major League. So it is an adjustment period, and some guys have some difficulty of getting used to it. It takes maybe, you know, sometimes a couple outings or, you know, a couple starts just to get the feel for it. So it's just, you know, sometimes guys just take to it very well. But usually, you know, the Major League ball, it takes a little bit more.

more to get the spin on the ball and to get it moving like they do in the lower level. Well, we appreciate the updates, and we wish you nothing but success. Obviously, tomorrow and beyond that, and we can't thank you enough for doing this. Thank you, Casey. I really appreciate it. Thank you, guys. You got it, Casey Candel. Buffalo Bison's manager.

George Springer will be down there tomorrow. Trey is Savage getting a start. You got Shane Beaver getting another start in a couple of days. and you know because the staff is healthy in Toronto you have a five-man rotation that's going you don't they're not going to force feed Bieber anyway if he's not ready he's not ready but you might allow him to just keep going down there like there's you know by September you want him up here pitching

I would think you got to give him four or five regular season games before the playoffs oh yeah but August 13th he doesn't have to be going right now yeah but if he's going to be one two three in your rotation yeah he's got to be well So what's the number for you? Five starts? Like how many does he have to have where you feel like he is caught up to speed

and he's back in a major league lifestyle and rotation? Yeah, five starts with two. Yeah, five starts seems about right. I mean, I'd like a little more, though, if I could get him. Sure. I just don't know about it.

How do you see it? He's about what it'll be, five, six. Yeah. And frankly, if the Blue Jays had three starters and a couple of scrubs filling out the rotation, he might be making this start in the big leagues. He's close enough, frankly, at this point. I was wondering if the Blue Jays would push him, just given that you're trading a legitimate big-name prospect to get, what, 5, 6, 7 of these starts, and you want that to be as high a number as possible.

But I think as long as he gets through this one, okay, and his last two rehab appearances have been identical. One walk, six strikeouts, solid. As long as he looks okay, get him up here, as fast as possible. Get him into that rotation. and the six-man or hybrid six-man, whatever we're going to call it, will take care of itself, I think, pretty quickly. Yeah. All right, we'll see.

We'll see when he gets up here. I'm looking forward to it, though. Like, this is going to be buzzed with it, man. And, like, every day I've got different buddies going all to, you know, every game's got three or four people I seemingly know at. And, like, you wouldn't believe it last night. Unbelievable, the vibes down there. It's incredible.

Like, there's a lot of positive energy right now around, the Jays. And you bring Beaver up and you get him on a mound at the dome in a Blue J uniform. Like, that's just going to push it forward that much more. Big crowds. People who have never talked to me about the Blue Jays are talking to me about it. Yeah. And I get the message every night. We're here at the game. Do you want to grab a beer and I say, you don't understand my job? Not the way it works. I do want to. Yes. But I can't. Appreciate the offer, but can't happen. Maybe down the road. It's becoming that destination again. It happened with the Rappers 19, J's 15 and 16.

Yeah. It becomes a spot to be. Absolutely. It's a beautiful thing. Best Betts coming up. Powered by Fandole. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN2. All right. Best Fet's powered by Fandole. Make your picks and assemble a same game parlay on seconds on the Fandrele Sportsbook app. I'm going to take a look at the BMW Championship here. Okay, my main man, Top 10, Tommy.

Did it again last week. He had it. Tommy Fleetwood, man. What's up with this guy? I love Tommy. He will never win. I'm fearful he will never win. And he blows that put on 17, which would have.

got him into the playoff. Even if he was in it, I think Rose still beats him. No doubt. Yeah, top 10 Tommy. Playing plus money on a top 10, though. I'll take top 10 Tommy. That's killing me.

I love it. It's such a great handle. It's great. Top 10, Tommy finishes top 10. Plus 125. I'm on Fleetwood. Outrights, I'm going, like, Sheffler's plus 250 to win this tournament.

Man. It's, yes, it's a smaller field, but it's the best players. McElroy's in it. Shoffley's in it. He's in it. He's a great, great players. I'm not touching plus 250. Like I love Schaeffler, and the fact that he didn't win last weekend was borderline shocking.

J.J. Spawn's playing great, 30 to 1. Sam Burns, 35 to 1. Been a lot better. Keegan Bradley's been a winner here. Yeah. 45 to 1. I'm on Keegan. Okay.

So I like those as kind of long shot, make big money. Yes. Okay. Best bet's powered by Fanduel. See, Roy McElroy said that I guess he had been approached to player captain, a rider cup, and he shot it down, said, can't do it. No way. trolling the U.S. guys again.

Like, it's got to be a shot of Keegan Bradley, right? He's cool for a lot of stuff lately. Yeah, he is. But that's a shot, because Roy's already said we're going to win in Bethpage, right? He said when they won, they won in Europe, he said, hardest thing to do in golf was winning a Way Rider Cup, and that's what we're going to do in Bethpage. And now he's trying to do the psychological game saying, that's crazy to try and play and captain.

There's too many duties for the captain. That's going to be hard on Keating. Oh, boy. I wouldn't do that. Yeah, he said no chance. Is that gaslighting? I've always struggled with the definition. I think it might be.

I don't really know. I think it might be. Yeah, it sounds like it. Well, who knows? It's mine. What's aggravating, I would think, if I'm Bradley, is like he's just right on the border of whether or not he should be on the team or not, you know, like based on merit. He's right there.

He probably should be. But it's like he's in that awful gray zone where, like, if you put yourself on, it's like, oh, you put yourself on, huh? Interesting. But if you take yourself out, are you jamming up the team to be a hero? because you don't want to put yourself on the team because you're technically on the bubble. And you may believe you're more clutch than anybody on the bubble.

And he's a raw, raw kind of guy. Yeah, you know, like, I'd have Keegan Bradley on the team for sure, but I don't know how Keegan Bradley is going to handle putting Keegan Bradley on the team. Well, that's what Roy's planting the seed, right? That's why he's planning the seed. Gaslighting. Love it. Yeah.

But there's Macro. I think he's still second in FedEx points. They didn't even play last week. And the bottom line is the fact that we're talking about. what the Ryder Cup tells us, we're not that excited about the FedEx playoffs, but we are excited about the Ryder Cup. I am jacked for the Ryder Cup. Same here.

Like September is going to be brilliant. Get the Ryder Cup back, the NFL back. NHL camps open a little earlier this year because of the Olympic Games, starts a little bit earlier. You got the Js who are chasing down an ALE East and chasing down a World Series effectively. Like, it's going to be bedlam in September. Some incredible couch potential. Yes.

Some long, long days. Well, I saw, like, someone posted that weekend. It's a big college football weekend. Every weekend, every weekend, there's big games. But there's like two or three, like, monster games, potentially that weekend of the Ryder Cup. And I'd have to look up with the... There's a couple of marquee NFL games, clearly. I think one of them might be like bills, whatever, you know.

I'm not going to speculate because I'd have to go back and look at it. But it was one of those tweets where we're... It was like we have Ryder Cup all day, college football, all day, Saturday, NFL all Sunday. Like, it's just going to be brilliant. Can't beat it. Cannot beat it. That's what's glowing in the distance for me after the baseball season. And I hope it takes a while so that everyone can be happy to enjoy their baseball.

But there comes a Sunday where baseball is over. Yes. And I plant down on that couch at 12.55 p.m. Eastern time, my God. Maybe if I get a London game, a little 9.25 a.m. Eastern. In front of me, I have a sheet of paper with a lot. A lot of names and numbers written out. I love it. I've got an order cranked up.

Life is good, man. It's out there. Well, J.P. San Chiefs Ravens play that Sunday. Oh, yeah. And the Packers Cowboys is Sunday night football. Oh, delicious. Like that is so... That's incredible.

I've got to make sure I don't peek too early that day. Yes. Make sure... Ease into it with some light ones. Ease into it. The Js will be wrapping up their season. That's probably the last game of the year, I would think. Sunday, September 28th, something like that.

Fantastic. And I get a night game after it. Yes. Right into the Packers Cowboys. Love it. Is that at Lambo? I think it might be under the lights, too. Sunday night football at Lambo, you can't beat it.

Ah, it's in Dallas. Yeah, let's still win that game. Packers is a final way to win that game. All right, boys. Will that? Okay, you believe in the Packers this year? I actually do, presuming health. Like, I really do.

This Matthew Golden kid, they're saying it's going to be a superstar wide. Yeah. Young, asking a lot out of them. But, like, they've been the youngest team in the league the last two years. Lefleur is a really good regular season coach. He's got to get it going, come playoff. time, but I like them this year. I really do. I think the Packers have a real chance of doing some damage in the NFC. I'm buying all the Jordan Love stock this year too,

and I'm biased. Stay healthy. Got to stay healthy. It's not going to be a Josh Jacobs team again. That's right. Healthy Jordan Love is going to sling it. I think Matt LaFleur wants to slinging around. And Matthew Golden, I was a hater into the draft. I said anyone but now they got him. But I've come around. It's all your friend. I'm trying to come around with some things I love it. I love it. Good stuff. All right, boys. Great seeing you guys. Thanks for doing this, as always. Kagan Matheson, Dave Festrach. Thanks to everyone behind the scenes for helping out.

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