OverDrive - OverDrive - August 27, 2025 - Hour 3 - Matt Chatham

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jason Strudwick and Frank Corrado for Hour 3 on OverDrive! Former NFL Player and Super Bowl Champion Matt Chatham joins to discuss Bill Belichick's opening season in college, the transition from the NFL and Tom Brady being around teams in the NFL. Hayes, Strudwick and Frankie discuss Keegan Bradley's selections for United States at the Ryder Cup and Bradley not playing in the tournament, fitness training at NHL training camps and the FanDuel Best Bets.

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That's a great thought, man. He'll take you down. Like, JP is just in cahoots with Taddy, and that's a good little warning. You send it to someone's email to warn them that, like, the lawsuits come, and if you don't stop with the yes-guy-isms out there. You open it up, the audio file plays, and there it is from JP. Yep. Don't mess around. Do not mess around.

Kanye, Drake. anybody. So, yeah, we've got Matt Chatham coming up here in a moment who's won multiple Super Bowls with the Pats back in the day playing for Belichick. Get his take on, like, what this is going to look like with him in Carolina. And I've seen some videos that they've produced of him during camp, and he looks and sounds like Bill Belichick, right? Like, he looks and sounds like Belichick.

He's right in there. You know, he's paying attention to detail. You know, he's going to treat these kids closer to, like, professionals. But you've got to be careful with that because they're not, you know, and it's college. And it's a brave new world in college football where if players don't like the way they're being treated, don't like the way they're being utilized, they'll leave. They'll hit the transfer portal, go somewhere else. You know, so it's, um, there's a lot of money.

There's a lot of money in college football. That's a slippery slope, though, man. Like, this whole thing about being scared about guys leaving because of the transfer portal and the NIL, the guys that are going to do that, I feel like they're just going to do that. They're just wired that way. Like, it's inevitable that these guys will. take the easy way and play for four schools and four years and chase the money and that's the reality of like this changing landscape but if you start making every decision based around how do

I keep this guy happy and that guy happy then no one's happy and it's like you just yeah you just got to be bill bellichick has to be like belichick 2.0 the college football coach it's not going to be new england patriots bellichick but whatever this new version is he's just got to be consistent with that because if he starts pandering to this guy and that guy, forget about it, man. Everyone will be upset. Build it and they will come. That's what you've got to hope for.

But, Frankie, I think to build all what you're saying, you have to be who you are as a coach. Because if you aren't true to yourself, then you're not the coach that's successful. Or you're not, you're doing things kind of in a half-ass way that you do. So, you know, whether you're right or wrong, do it fully to what you believe is true

and right in your system, the way you treat players, and it'll work. But if you're second-guessing yourself, man, that gets ugly quick, and the players know. They can tell. You know when the player's unsure, or sorry, when a coach is unsure of himself, you picked apart in two seconds.

That gets silly, hey? Like, you must have seen it over the years. You got to coach. Like, I'm pretty, guys talk. They're like, pretty sure this guy has no idea what he's doing. And he's like, he might be like the school teacher that's just one step ahead of the lesson plan. Couldn't tell you why we're doing it, but this is what we're doing.

I learned it last night. You guys are learning it tomorrow. Like, that's, there's situations where, like, that's not that far off. Well, you're right. Like, especially, you're right, with, like, coaches, politicians, you know, celebrities. You have this impression that, like, there's so much time and effort going into it. And they're totally prepared and nothing could throw them off. And they're these perfect people, well-oiled machines.

And a lot of times it's a complete disaster in the background. And they're just piecing it together and somehow it works. And if you meet people, you're like, how does this guy, how is that? that guy, like, top 10 and wins all time. You wouldn't believe it. Like, if you hung around with him for 10 minutes, you'd say it's impossible. Lost his phone three times, doesn't know where his wallet is, you know, but somehow makes it work when you have to make it work.

Well, why would you go to UNC? If you're a player who's recruited by him, by Bill, or by his staff, whatever, you want to be coached by him. That's why you're going there. You think he's going to make you build to coach you better than any other coach who's recruited you. And really, that's what every player wants, especially when you're young. I want to be coached up.

So if you go in there, you're accepting whatever Bill is as a coach because you think it'll get you to the level you want to be more than other coaches. I think so he's got to be himself. Be true to yourself, man. That's what he's got to bring. Well, you know he's going to have the hoodie on and the sleeves will be missing. And the weather's going to be relatively warm in North Carolina all season. The college year ends end of November.

So if they don't make the playoff and I don't think they will, Maybe they'll play a bowl game, but he may not have a hoodie all year. Who knows? I guess he'll hit the road and play road games. In a way, though, Belichick coaching college players, he can be more firm than with NFL guys. NFL guys, you got to massage things, egos, big money, like, salaries at play. And I get that now with the NIL, but realistically, man, like, you guys lived in junior hockey. The coach, it's like a dictator.

They run everything. It's a dictatorship in junior hockey. It's not until you get to the pros where it's like you got to start massage. and there's no owner here you know now it's a state school i believe so there is an element of that in terms of it being publicly known what he's making and all that kind of stuff but robert craft was still technically in charge in new england you know he did have the ability to walk down and fire bill you got to think everyone walks on eggshells around him down at chapel hill i mean no who's messing with bill bellichick at north carolina who's going to keep him in

check it's already been a gong show with his girlfriend and with everything like everything that's been going on is just kind of got this weird kind of circus like vibe to it no one's going to put him in check no one's going to stop him he's just going to continue to do what he's doing um so yeah i'm curious to see what they've got like i'm i'm really curious to see you know you look at what dion sanders did to colorado when he got there and obviously he brought he brought chadour with him he brought Travis hunter so immediately they had talent they had players that people were familiar with I'm not overly familiar with players at North Carolina. I'm sure if he's there for an extended period of time,

they will get highly rated recruits and they'll get big names and there will be players that you'll get to know. But Dion alone put Colorado on the map. Colorado has no football history at all, none. And you had to find out what they were doing. I was checking box scores all the time. I may not watch every game, but I wanted to know how did they do? Did they win?

What's Deion saying? What's he going to say after the game? before the game. How's he get a game plan for this? I anticipate it being similar with Belichick. He won't be as lively and personable. Like Dion's a show. Dion, Deon, every time he speaks, you've got to hear what he's going to say. Belichick's different, but he has an aura to him where I want to know how Carolina's doing.

And I've never wanted to know that in the past. So he's going to have a lot of eyeballs on that program. Here's a guy that knows him well from a professional standpoint when he was still coaching in the NFL, Super Bowl champ down in New England. Here's former NFL or Matt Chatham. Matt, what do you anticipate Belichick's first year in college to look and sound like in terms of the spotlight being on him and his ability, if he wants to, to get a lot of eyeballs on a school that doesn't have a really crazy football history?

Well, I guess off the bat, it'll just be interesting to see how kids respond to him. I know they're excited, you know, it's a sort of a chance of a lifetime to have this sort of narrow window where a guy with his resume sort of slides into that world. But you know it won't go on into perpetuity. He can't do it for presumably 15 or 20 years. You know, maybe this is a chance where if you just came there as a freshman, you may get him for your full four years. Who knows? But in my view, that kind of makes it almost more attractive, especially if you're one of those high-end guys that says, hey, I might not stay for four. it would just be interesting to see how the guys that he's attracted to the place in this short amount of time,

how they respond to them early on, right? Because college is so much different as far as, you know, these aren't professionals yet. You have a limited amount of the time. You're really capped in how much you can do with them. Can they get up to speed in that amount of time, you know, in their high teens and early 20s, like he was always able to do that with guys much older with much more time on their hand? So that's the challenge. I think it's going to be exciting.

I'm certainly interested in looking to watch, too, but I don't think anyone knows even Bill. I mean, he knows how to coach the game as well as anyone on planet Earth, but this is a new challenge. Did you ever envision this kind of career arc for Bill Valichick, like leaving the NFL, coaching college ball, but not even really at such a prominent football school, but is this something that if someone told you this was going to happen,

you know, 15 years ago, would you have believed that this is something that would be coming true? I think one of the big lessons in the NFL life as a whole is that like you can't be surprised about anything I mean it just most most guys you know Tom Brady if we had the same conversation as Tom as a buccaneer he said no of course not you know like this stuff the unexpected happens right it's just kind of part of it so I mean right now what we're Pete Carroll's in Vegas I think right like yeah I mean just the point of this is like just don't be prepared to not be surprised by just about anything

Is it the first guess I would have made now, but I think it's, you know, it can reinvigorate you. Maybe it's a little bit like Tom's situation, a new environment, new people to sort of interact with in a new place. You know, like you said, you're dealing with maybe a highly touted 19-year-old kid or, you know, a kid who transferred in who's 21 or 22 and just looking to push it across the line and get in the NFL. That's a different kind of dude. It's a different kind of challenge. you wake up and do something different each day. And he's on the sort of 19th hole here of his professional career. Sometimes just that new thing at the end, I think,

can give you a little more juice and keep you rolling. As far as the on-field game planning, how does that shift from what he did in the NFL to now working with younger athletes in college with shorter timelines? Yeah, I mean, that's an awesome question. I think as much as anything, we were always kind of considered like a place, both sides of the ball, really all three elements.

the game where it was sort of like graduate level stuff where you know you could we could we could handle way more defenses on a weekly game plan than most right we're going to we're going to be multiple we're going to be different you can scout the hell of us from what we did we could go we're going to do something different now offensively it's like you know you're this massive install through these exceedingly long camps and you're going to be you know you're going to be multiple all year long you're going to be the team that has a harder harder sort of approach to to to prepare for college is so incredibly limited with time and with young kids who just may not be there yet to be able to do that

that's kind of one of the cool sort of twist to this how much of what he wants to do can he do and he'll be learning in real time as we watch it ourselves but the one thing I know is they'll never have been as prepared as they were now I mean you can imagine these kids you know I've got a high school senior now awesome coaching staff I mean like is as good as you can ask for at the high school level here in Massachusetts but the way they're prepared at high school level is so much different that you went from like,

you know, a really good high school program to like a year later as this freshman with your eyeballs just popping out of your head like, what the hell? How does this guy know that? Or where did he come up? Where did he come up with that? Or like, I thought I watched film the last, you know, three or four years of my life. I'd never seen that before, right? So it's just sort of like graduate, graduate level in a hurry.

So, you know, how well the kids take to that at a young age? And I think some will just respond exceedingly well to it. It's like, wow, he's giving me the answers to the test. If I just do what he says, you know, and I can have success. So that's generally the message. It's like, wow, never been given such great information. What am I going to be able to go do with it? With Super Bowl champ longtime patriot, Matt Chatham.

You mentioned Brady a moment ago, and there's a report out today that the NFL will now allow Tom to take part in production meetings with coaches and teams this season, obviously working with Fox. and last year Brady was banned for much of the season from the information gathering sessions because he's a minority owner of the Raiders and he has not hit from that. He's been around camp, he shows up,

he's wearing the Raiders gear, he's on the field, you know, he's pretty heavily involved in that. You know, what do you think his end game here is, Brady, in terms of, you know, continuing to work for Fox but also trying to help Vegas get over the top and do you think he can marry the two and it's going to be all good for him on both sides, you know, for the next five, seven, eight years.

I don't know, but I do know that it's a massive TV deal. It's the kind of money you don't turn down. It's a great gig. And he's going to get an opportunity to continue to grow in that. But, I mean, from obviously not doing the level of games that Tom was, but I did years and years of production meetings for our TV broadcast stuff and preseason games and things like that and all for ESPN college football stuff. And I can't imagine as the color guy going into a game without part of that.

I mean, it's just a lot of the material you need. When the camera light goes on and there's dead time between plays and you've got to talk to the roster, those conversations you have back at the hotel by night 124 are huge and getting a little perspective from the coach on what they're seeing, what they're thinking, what they're doing. It's helpful, man, it's just content. You know, you're trying to get through three and a half hours of talking. So, you know, handcuff the guy a little bit to be able to like, yeah, you can't interact with him, just show up to the game and watch some film on your own

and hope your relationship with your play-by-play is great. I mean, it's a little weird, to be honest. So to let him just kind of do the normal course of things, that just seems natural, I guess. Like, I don't understand how they were ever going to expect different than that. Now, how can it, you know, coincide with him trying to grow the Raiders? I don't know, but they allowed it. So, you know. Do you think the teams will be comfortable, though?

Like, do you think the Chargers and the Broncos are like, come on in, Tom? Like, do you think, how can you do that? Yeah, exactly. It's weird, right? It's weird. I don't know, right? I mean, are you going to be, you know, standoffish, a little bit cold? And, you know, you have to make available certain players.

You send in, you know, the last guy on the roster, not your quarterback Atlanta. I don't know. How does that work? Like, it's kind of a, you know, it's a little bit of chess. But I think also something that could be interesting is, you know, you get late in the season. And, you know, Tom is a charismatic guy. He's an awesome dude. Obviously, knows that position as well as anybody.

And you could have him a position where he's, you know, just chatting with guys that may become pre-agent someday. You know, so it's just, it's a way. weird dynamic, but it's apparently allowed, and I'm sure he'll make the most of it. We were talking about Belichick and how you shouldn't be surprised by anything. You mentioned Pete Carroll and Tom Brady.

I mean, maybe this is fairly obvious, but do you think this is really it for Belichick? Do you think there's even a slimmer of a chance that he would return to the NFL in the right situation? I mean, I think all those things are decided how these next couple years go there.

if you just, you know, does exceedingly well, they're, you know, in the tournament at the end of the year, they surprise people, they load it back up with an incredible recruiting class, and all of a sudden you've made a place that was, you know, an ACC school, but like a next tier, you know, it's not like a perpetual top tenor kind of place, but you do that really quickly, you meet really, you know, big-time goals that you might have in a short amount of time, yeah, then maybe your point of view changes, but I don't know, it's a new challenge. the NFL life is a lot different, you know, you're doing different things. You're not recruiting kids.

You're working budgets and free agency and all that. I know ISL is a little bit similar, but it's just all I would say is he can't know that. I would presume unless he came into it wanting to get back and was using this for something else. All the things I've heard from friends and other people that know him and other people that are down there now is that this is authentic. He wants to go down there and make that place successful, and maybe that in another. itself will be incredibly fulfilling and then you're done but you know if it goes an unexpected way and we're sitting here three or four years and there's a weird opportunity out there for another couple of years of the place up here in the NFL maybe that's too i mean i just think we're so

far from you know him experience it much less you know looking at other prospective places how do you think his other college coaches are viewing this um massively well-known NFL coach coming down to coach in college? I would imagine it's a fun little challenge just because college concepts can be different. You know, the stuff that you're running is a lot more spread concepts. There's a lot more, hey, you know, this is not professional offensive line play. This is get the ball out quick.

This is, you know, guys with giant, you know, what are four-foot placards from the sideline going in their plays. And, you know, there's ways you can work over other teams if you're not sort of familiar with operating in that world. And he's presumably bringing in this heavy pro style, both sides of the ball, how the whole operations run. And that versus a more traditional college thing, you know, I guess we haven't seen how that, what the result of that would be.

But, you know, it's just got to be fun. You know, it's not as if guys haven't had big challenges against Bill and won them. In the NFL, when you'd see first time head coaches or up-and-coming new guys that get their big shot, Bill's won his fair share and lost them too. So, I don't know, I just think it puts you juice in everyone. You get a play for them. You're excited. You get a play against them.

You're excited. And, you know, guys generally try to rise to that. With Matt Chatham. So what's the, every time we talk to you, we're talking barbecue with you and rub smoke. Is it rub smoke love? Rub smoke open? Yeah, rub smoke love. How are we feeling about that these days?

Because still barbecue season up here in Toronto. Yeah, here too. I mean, it's, you kind of transition. We have Labor Day coming up. and we have a big event for about 250 people. We're not a caterer, but we're a manufacturer. So we sell, I think we're in about over 400 stores up here in the Northeast right now. So it's chaos.

We just added the new chain for September 1st. So we're just kind of trying to hold it together as all young, small businesses are growing fast to. So we've just transitioned Labor Day is obviously a huge day, and then you move into sort of tailgate time, right? And, you know, what you're aiming for then, what can be. executed in a parking lot a few hours before King Day is a little different than the guy that's trying to do all day long brisketes and things

like that at home for the weekend. So we're trying to be versatile, so our stuff is great for just about all of it. But it's a fun time of year. People love to eat at games, and we've got the stuff to do it. I love it. Awesome, man. Good luck with that. Enjoy the season. We'll do it again soon. Thank you, Matt. All right, thanks guys. Take care.

Matt Chatham, Super Bowl champ. Entrepreneur. Yeah, the tailgate down in the States, man. You, like barbecuing the whole scene and it is go time to college football this weekend the NFL coming up like the next five months is just this is what this is the whole american sports scene is about this they live for this man and i'm on his football football i'm on his website right now and you can clearly tell like this is tailor made for that type of thing he's got an 80 ounce tub of the like the signature rub right like this is this is this

is a massive vat of the seasoning industrial size and that's what people are going to need for these tailgates like i don't even know how long 80 ounces lasts you maybe two games through september yeah exactly down there it's not like this stuff is made for tailgates this is hilarious yeah i love it i love it it's it's a it's a cottage industry i guess but it's a significant one you know it's it's an industry within an industry within an industry tailgating you got you got four months and get after it. And that's, I guess, what Matt Chatham and others are going to be doing. All right, we got about a month until the Ryder Cup.

The American team has been announced. We'll wait on the European team that's coming out in a few days. On paper, I think the Europeans are better, maybe substantially better. Kegan Bradley did not put himself on the team. Purely Captain Material will not play. Did he make the right call? Steve Sands will answer that and more. We'll catch up with Sanzi next.

All right, Best Betts, powered by Fandu later in the hour on Jay's Twins tonight. Eric Lauer on the mound, big start for him. Anytime he's going to get the ball to start a game, he's trying to prove himself to Schneider and Pete Walker and Atkins and Shapiro. And even if he's not going to start games in the playoffs, and I don't think it's likely he will. You want to make that playoff roster. You want to find a way to contribute in some way.

You want to stay on the team, right? I would think he's done enough to do that. He's had a great year. He's been really good for him. He had a really good year. He could say that he saved the rotation at one point. He kind of fell victim to the numbers game, really, with Bieber coming in. And it's like, yeah, we're paying Brrios.

A lot of money. He's going to be here a long time still. Lauer became the guy that was the odd man out, but not based on his play. So, yeah, for sure, he wants to continue to pitch well. Everyone should continue to want to play well. But I think he's built a really solid foundation of trust at this point. What he's done is guaranteed him. a spot somewhere in baseball next year.

Like someone's going to give him a contract. I don't know what his contractual situation is with the Jays. We should look that up. But if it's a scenario where he's, you know, free agent this year, someone's going to give him some money. You know, it's not going to be exorbitant. It's probably not going to be a long-term deal. But I think he's done enough for teams that are constantly looking for pitching to say,

here's a lefty who put up good numbers. We'd like you to be a part of our team, right? We'll give you some money. Come on in in a one or two-year deal. be a three-year deal, a little bit of flexibility. So you're not only pitching even for your own team. You're always trying to perform for the rest of the league if you're a bubble guy, right? He's trying to stay employed, keep making money.

You just want to keep giving them reasons not to take you out of the lineup or not to shelve you, right? And if they have to, you want them to feel bad about it. Hey, you know, you don't deserve this. We're sorry, but we're just caught up. Just stay ready. We're going to need you. And then you get your chance you perform well, and they keep counting on you, counting. So he's done a great job for himself.

Yep. He's been really good. And in action tonight. Now, the Ryder Cup, it's going to be a great September, October coming up, man. Like, the sports world is going to be so electric with the Jays and the Hunt. Hockey camps opening in a couple of weeks. You've got the NFL starting next Thursday, college football this weekend. But Keegan Bradley, he got jammed up the second they announced he was the captain because he was always going to be in a bind where he was not likely to play himself into an auto pick.

He was not one of the top six guys. guys likely was not going to be just based on his history his age who he is he was always going to be right in the middle like right right 10th 11th something like that and then what do you do you put yourself on and then you look selfish and then you've made it more complicated because you're a playing captain or do you do what he ended up doing and just pull the plug and go with somebody else i can understand why he did this i think you know the the u.s team jammed them up by putting them in this position but his captain's picks which he announced today Justin Thomas, Sam Burns, Colin Morikawa, Cameron Young, Patrick Cantley, Ben Griffin.

I look at that team. Now, JJ Spawn Harris English, they made it automatically based on what they've done the last two years. But Spawn English, Cam Young, Ben Griffin will not scare Europe at all. Like those guys, they will be licking their chops. Like, could you imagine John Roms paired with J.J. bond, you know, on singles at the Ryder Cup? Or you've got, you know, Justin Rose is like, who am I playing? I'm the definition of a veteran at the Ryder Cup.

Oh, I have Ben Griffin. Let's go. Yeah. Like, I love Europe this year. And it's very tough to win on the road. But I like the Europeans. I think I would have liked the Americans maybe on par of Bradley was playing, but he's not. The reality is Keegan Bradley should be playing on this team.

And you're right. They jammed them up by making. him the captain and what was he supposed to do because if he makes himself a captain's pick which he was entitled to do and he would be very deserving but he adds so much more pressure onto himself when it comes to like how you're going to allocate your time as far as like picking your your teammates your pairs that are going to go out strategy and then worrying about your own game like there's there's enough to do on both sides where it's like you it feels like he could only do one to its fullest ability.

But why, like, Hayes, what about this? What if he just said, like, he didn't make it last time around? He, Zach Johnson didn't pick him. You should have. He should have. He was a snub last time. That's right. What if he just said, like, guys, I want to play.

Can someone else be the captain? Right. How many more kicks at the can do you get to play in a Ryder Cup? I don't know. I guess, like you said, if he didn't play himself into the top six, this time, it's going to be harder in two more years. And his energy when he plays at a tournament and he's in contention is exactly what the Ryder Cup is all about, especially on home soil, especially at Beth Page Black. So I think it would have been a no-brainer for him to play, but him being the captain just got in the way too much.

Yeah, it's too bad. And it's too bad, and it's a shame because he should be playing. He's not a young guy. I think he's 38. It's one thing maybe he's there in two years in Europe, but on American soil in four years, probably unlike. you know this was your chance to play you know for your country and what is going to you know what's being anticipated as the most rowdy golf event of all time you know it's just going to be insane in new york and um he's still he's still going to be front center as a captain and it'll be

the voice box for the team and you know all that but um i just i look at it and it would have been just more entertaining just would have been for sure like player captain that would have been really, really cool. He would agonize over this. I think this is something that, you know, I remember I watched the show where he was, he got the call and didn't make it. And, you know, you can see how let down he was. I remember his wife hugging. I'm like, it was just like, it was so sad. So I wanted him to have that experience. Unfortunately for him, I just think to him both have been too much, but the decision, because in his heart, he probably knows he should play. He should be a player. But he also wants to be the captain. I believe that'd be a great honor to be

asked to be the captain of this team and be the one who gets to steer the direction of it. But, I mean, he probably looked at it from every way, right? If I do play and I'm captain and we lose, well, they'll probably put it on me. But if I don't play, I'm the captain, and one of our weaker players' struggles, could have been me, and they're going to say,

I should have played. Like, this guy, he was really in a tough spot, and I feel from especially after watching that show like that, I was heartbreaking watching that. But I put it this way, though, right? Like, only so many guys have the capability to actually play and thrive in something like this, and he's one of those guys.

Right. I think there's a lot of guys that could line up, and he could look at them and say, can you step in and be the captain strategy? Like, guys can brainstorm that kind of thing, right? To actually be able to play, there's only so few guys that can do it. Like, we just saw the list.

It gets pretty thin quickly. I'm sure the European team looks at that, and they're like, get us out there, man. We can't wait. to get after these guys. You look at what the Europeans are thrown out. And Mike's tweeting and saying, you're disrespecting J.J. Spawn and he was an auto pick. He wasn't a captain's pick.

He made it. He was one of the top six guys. He's earned that. But at the same time, J.J. Spahn does not have a great history. Yes, he's won the U.S. Open. He was in contention at the players. He's still J.J. Spawn in terms of this level of, you know, event and the pressure that comes with it,

he's got no history in the Ryder Cup. Now there's Ben Griffin. Neither is Cameron Young. You know, Harris English, again, I don't know how he was an auto pick, quite frankly. I've not heard his name all year on tour, but he is. But the point being is you look at the Europeans. It's going to be Rory and Rom. McIntyre was there two years ago, and he was great.

He's been unreal recently. Fleetwood was there two years ago. He just won. He's been great. Rose has been phenomenal. He's been in how many of these? 10? How many rider cups have been in a million of them?

Super consistent player. It doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Hovlin's going to be there. Oberg, they're going to play, I believe, and he was there two years ago. Fitzpatrick's been there a bunch. Shane Lowry's been there a bunch. They have a deeper team of veterans who are used to it, who get it, who are playing better. Like, Zander has not had a good year.

Schaftley's an auto pick, and of course he's on the team, but he's not had a good year. And the Americans are going to roll out Patrick Cantlay. He's one of the captain's picks. and like, okay, watching Patrick Cantley hit a ball for two minutes there on the tea or watching Keegan Bradley go nuts on the green because he just sunk up like a 25-footer and he's all fired up and juiced up. What do you think fans want to see? I don't know.

And even Thomas, like Thomas, his tee ball has been so bad recently. And I get it. He's a heart and soul guy. You know, Captain America and all that kind of stuff. But he was terrible two years ago. Terrible. Should not have been there two years ago. But that was a buddy-buddy thing.

He should not have been there. And Spieth obviously isn't there this time. But still, it's, I don't know. I love the Ryder Cup. It's a lot of fun. We were there for the President's Cup. And that's where you saw it. Like, Sheffler's still there.

They still got Sheffler. And Deschammo's going to be great. And Henley's been really good. And there will be a few guys that will step up. I have no doubt about that. You know, maybe it is Thomas. Maybe it's more Akawa. Who knows?

And one or two of the younger guys are the newbies, you know, the Cam Youngs or the Gryphins. One or two of them will step up, I'm sure, and play well. Yes. Well, how about Bryson? Isn't it, is Bryson qualified for this just on majors alone? Yes. Is that wild? Of just the majors, he's an auto pick, which is wild. We've got to put some respect on Bryson's name for doing that.

And I'm pretty sure was it Hatton? Terrell Hatton did the same thing. I don't know if he was an auto pick, but he's like number seven in points. Right. Right. He's right there. And Hatton's another guy that'll be there that's been on this team for years and is a hothead. regardless of what he's like a little

gremlin just like with that scowl just to be great yeah kind of bobbing around there all angry all the time with his chin stuck out yeah oh yeah you can't beat it man you can't you can't beat it it's going to be a lot of fun and the european team luke donald their captain will make the announcement i think on september 1st so that's coming up uh i guess over the weekend but yeah rider cup team set kegan bradley

not going to be uh playing but he will be the captain and i wonder if tiger will make an appearance at all. Or is Tiger just out? Like, that's it. Most recent injury, surgeries. The picture where he's propped up with his new girlfriend was really awkward. It's like the last time we've seen him. He follows Charlie around wherever Charlie plays.

I did not see that picture. But if Keegan Bradley was going to say, guys, I want to play in this thing, would he not have called Tiger? Tiger is a guy you'd be the captain. That was the dream, like, Happy Gilmore 3 scenario that Keegan says, I'm playing. We need a replacement. tiger flies in, right? Or floats the yacht up.

You know, that's probably what he would do in New York. Just, like, dock it right there in Long Island and make his way to Beth Page. But I don't know. It doesn't appear as if that's going to happen. All right, Jay's Twins tonight. We'll get to our best bets. We'll catch up with Sanzi a little bit later in the week. The Canadian camp has continued.

We talked a lot about that, the orientation camp. They're not on the ice, so they're just golfing. And I don't know what the hell they're doing, quite frankly. I don't. know what they're going to accomplish. Well, at least they're not playing ball hockey. Remember when they did that? Was that 2014?

They brought them in shorts and T-shirts and they just did the systems. That was Babcock, though, right? That was so typically Babcock. It was like, we've got to be out here working on our system. And Cooper is probably like, guys, just grab some tea times and have a couple of beers and who cares. But honestly, guys, like, you know, I wouldn't play at that level. Obviously, I guess Spangler Cup is very elite. But at the end of the summer, do you think a lot of the guys wanted to come and do this?

No chance. Like, and I, I guess you're asked, but, I mean, like, do we really need this? Like, could this have been sent in an email? Totally. Could this not have been a Zoom call, please? Like, I just, I get it, like, because your time in the summer is valuable, especially, you know, you look at the guys there were, you know, up front and center there, McDavid and Reinhardt. I mean, three years for Reinhardt in a row going, you know, he's got two months off. And I got to come to Calgary or it doesn't matter where it is.

It could be anywhere. I just, I don't know. I just, I looked at those guys. I'm like, is this really needed? I don't, I don't. The Americans are doing the same thing, and you're right? That's exactly it. It's like AAA hockey when your kids 10 years old.

We don't want Timmy falling behind. The other parents are doing extra power skating. We're doing extra power skating. Americans are having a camp. We're having a camp. No one's fallen behind here. I don't know. Yeah, you're right, though, especially with the best players that they're already on the team.

They know it, you know, and you're right. This would be it. Like, you're putting the boat away. This is the last couple of days. You're probably hanging out with the first. family, you know, by the end of August, you would know, you guys both would know this going to camps, like you're flying over the next handful of days, everyone's kind of flying to where they need to go, for the most part. Some late stragglers might get in the end of the first

week of September or whatever, second week of September. But a lot of guys want to get there like weeks in advance and be settled in and start having team skates and seeing their guys and yeah, you're going to make a pit stop in Calgary. Now, it's a great honor. You're there representing, you know, hockey Canada. And I'm not disrespecting it. But you're right, though. They're not accomplishing anything. Nothing.

And you get to know each other. Most of the guys are those top. All the guys are at the top of those teams, they know each other for the most part, right? And they know what the team is going to be for the most part. It's just like, I don't know. We just played together in, when was that tournament? February, January, February. We're just all there.

We're going to change a few kids or a few players, and that's it. It's good for the young, like, if you're bringing Bedard, Celebrini, like on the American side, if you're bringing some young guys, just like, hey, be around Sid and Connor, just see how they kind of carry themselves. But outside of that. They'll look for their ball. Yeah, exactly. If they're having meetings, like if they're having meetings about systems and stuff,

it's pretty simple. We're playing a one-two in the neutral zone. Everyone's done it. Frank, they all know it. I could send you a text with the three systems, our four-check or D-Zone or neutral-one four-check. You'd know it with five minutes. Yeah.

So these guys just blink once and they know what it is. You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, I don't know. I just, I don't know. I guess I'd be honored if I was asked, obviously, I'd go. I would crawl on my knees. But. Well, what if they did a Spangler Cup reunion?

Like, if they called you out of nowhere, like Strud, we're going to go. We're going to Switzerland this year. We're going to Davos. We need you to drop the puck, and we're going to have a little silver medal reunion there. The silver medal. You know what? I always thought I'd make it the call to be like that second assistant coach. You know, the guy.

you know there's always there's always a cool guy then there's like someone who knows what they're doing that plays or coach over there then it's like the honorary guy you know and i just be there working the door like how can i help you you know like messay was a coach one year right what can i do you know what can i never got the call it's like it's an earpiece right to nowhere it's decorative only right it's completely useless that it's fair but it looks great it looks very legit doesn't and you're slicked back like hair slicked Oh, yeah, looks like he's up to something. Really tight.

I like that. Listen, I'm holding that help for you, Strutt. I think that that should happen at some point. Joe Thornton got it, right? He got the tap. That's right. You know what that coach? Like, if that was you, your job is strictly just to get on the officials for bad icings.

Like, puck got deflected. That's not where the faceoff is. Like, that's your job. We're all over him. Yeah. Being irrational, is what you say. Be a great kid. Be a rational.

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We've got college football this weekend. We've got the NFL week tomorrow. It's pretty crazy, man. It happens quick. Happens quick. And before you know, we're going to have opening night in the NHO. We're, what, five weeks away from that? Opening night?

Yeah, we've got just a million preseason games to get through before we get to the regular season. They produce some of them, right? They're down a few, aren't they? It's not the plan in the future to go to 84 regular season games? Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be like four preseason games, which is really that's all you need. Because even if you wanted to give one of your junior guys a token game,

you can do it. You don't need eight games to do it. Like, we've run into a situation now where you literally have two teams for the entire preseason. You have your A team that plays at home and your B team goes on the road. You make some cuts and eventually you get down to like, I don't know, 35 players and then you're at your 23-man roster once it's all said and done after like eight preseason games. It makes no sense. But we're not doing that anymore, which is great. well something else this is the last year of fitness testing and i just can't believe they're not

having the fitness testing anymore like i just i don't know if i'm not like offended but i'm like why wouldn't you want to know where everybody's at or even yourself your progression i guess you can get it tested on your own but man last time guys this is i think it's a big deal i think you're right man it just seems like a weird thing to give up you know like just just based on like principle alone this is a job where you have to be in shape it's a pre-rary was said it comes with the contract you have to be in shape and day one you got to prove that you're in shape in some capacity and now of a sudden the players have fought for it i guess they've won it clearly i can't believe they fought for this i never thought in my wildest dreams

when the pa would be negotiating a cba this is something that would come out i agree with you never thought it it's just like we all accepted it and it was normal and we hated it but it was one day and it was like, we'll get through it. They never thought they'd be like, we're getting rid of fitness testing. I don't know. We did it. We did it. So happy.

What did we do? More money? No, no fitness testing. Escro's going up, but we got rid of fitness testing. Yeah, and we have our own room now in the hotels. Well, we've had that for five years. Okay. Like, I just don't know.

I, again, it's not a thing. Do we want to punish guys or anything? I think it just sets the bar of, hey, we're all coming in shape. And guys are really competitive about it, right? You know, if Frankie had X for a score, I wanted to beat it. I'd get on that bike and try to go for it. And now you just, I guess, I'm guessing you just walk in and do your physical. And then you just go and put your equipment on it.

Take some pictures and go for a twirl. Everything's good. Everything's good. Well, you could still get bag skated. You could still do a conditioning skate. Like, Travis Green has that notorious one in Ottawa where, when he was in Vancouver, guys were hurled over on the ice puking, right? They're 40s, right?

You know those strud where you go, you line up on the goal line, you go down and back, down and back, through the red line. And you've got to do it in under 40 seconds. And Travis Green does like six of them with two minutes rest in between, and it's awful. You can still do that. But how do you differentiate between a fitness test and a conditioning skate? My take on that is, well, you're not writing the numbers down, entering them into an Excel spreadsheet, and they can come back to haunt you later. It's just you guys are doing this And we're all going to get through it together

That's a conditioning state That's got to be allowed What if you're a coach You see when your guy's a little doughy You know, do you try to sneak into the showers To see how chubby he is or isn't You know like what's the old What's the fat of you sent a chat?

No shirts on You know shirts on in the shower Or wherever you're going Well a lot of guys used to do the trick And you know they'd come in ripped Then as the year would go on They'd get a little chubbier And their towels would start like

Well below the belt line in September. By the end of the year, it was above the nipple. I'm like, what's going on? Why are your towel so high? He's like, don't say anything. Don't say anything. I put a few pounds on. How do you put weight on during the season? Like, we're going to be skating, working out.

Every day, every day burning like thousands and thousands of calories. Is it because you're eating pasta and chicken every day? Like, have rice. You have to work at it. To put, like, to put the weight on to the point where your towel it goes from below the belt till above the nipples, you have to work at that and really get after it.

You're determined to put weight on. What you are? It's what you're saying. I remember, I don't want to say the player, but I remember thinking, man, look how high this guy's towel is.

I'd see the bottom of his cheeks. You know what I mean? Like, I was going to get him a massive beach towel. That would be great. Comes in with a massive beach towel. I just get some coverage down there. Just hanging it in a stall like,

This is your towel now. You don't get to use the regular ones. What is going on? This guy wasn't a goalie. You know, like, this is a skater. That guy would live for this era, man. You could show up in the beach. No problem.

Yeah, there's no physical. No problem. No problem. I don't have to worry about anything. You're right. It's, I mean, you can't fool anyone. If you're out of shape, you're out of shape. And coaches know it.

And some coaches, they just look for it or they want it to be there. Oh, for sure. They can't wait to say you guys aren't in shape or. It's always a new coach. Like, Owen Noodles bring this up all the time. You'll notice every time someone gets fired mid-season, the next guy comes in and goes, they're not in shape. Oh, yeah.

The last coach just didn't care about fitness, right? You're the guy that's figured it out. You're hired because are you a coach or are you a fitness trainer? You know, which one are you? But it's always the card that gets played. Got to get him in shape and that's what we're going to do. Okay. But have you ever had, have you guys ever called Noodles?

And he's answered the phone. You're like, man, he's sound like you're going for a while. Well, I'm working out. I'm on my elliptical machine. You're on your elliptical machine and you can answer the phone? Like, how slowly you're going? He did that when he played. He'd be on the bike.

I got to burn 200 calories. I'm like, buddy, you can burn 200 calories, like walking to the post office and back. Well, no, I've got to get it on my bike. Like, I don't know how he ever. He does do the phone call on the elliptical a lot. If you call him after 9 a.m. Before 10 a.m., you're getting the, like, semi-heavy-heavy breathing elliptical answer. Right.

that's the like if you're really grinding to strutty's point you cannot talk on the phone no if you're really grinding on an elliptical a bike a treadmill you cannot you cannot be on the phone at that time i think he tries to lower his heart rate when he works out he tries to get it below the resting he's like a snake or something like these animals that can live in like outrageous weather did we ever get to the bottom of strutely saying that noodles had a back tattoo? No, that he claims that's fake news. He says it's false.

Take a picture. Take a picture of your back. That's the truth, man. You're right. That's simple, simple solution, right? I call them out. He doesn't want to show it. We know the answer.

Take a pick, and it's over. It's over, but I haven't seen one. Oh, man. I haven't seen one. I guess it is as simple as that. But he basically came on the show. He's like, Struddy's a liar, and he's spewing lies. Yep.

I had teammates of his back me up agreeing that he had a bad tattoo doubled down with another bad tattoo over it. Okay. All right. Well, we'll see. You know he's going to come out hot now. Probably tomorrow's going to want to address this again. You are fake news.

And we'll see if we allow him to do that. Thank you, Donald. Yes. All right, boys, good stuff. Good seeing you guys. Thanks for doing this, as always. Jason Strudwick, Frankie Carrotto. Thanks to everyone behind the scenes for helping out.

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