OverDrive - OverDrive - December 30th, 2024 - Hour 2

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Join Jim Tatti and Dave Feschuk for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joins to discuss the headlines around Week 17 in the NFL and Al's Brother gives his views on Hayes and Bro and O'Win Willson. The guys are joined by Doogie to discuss the biggest storylines around the sports world in the latest edition of Yes Guy, No Guy. 

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is cooking. Girl, you know it's true. Oh, yes, guy. Overdrive, hour number two. And the studio has been invaded. Al's brother and Luke Wilson areson are there jim taddy and dave fest chuck in parts unknown look at these guys they're all revved up luke how are you i'd i'd be better if i uh if the falcons covered last night i'll be honest sorry to hear that guy

it'd be better if you knew how to pick winners is that what you're saying luke oh well i gotta tip my cap you guys have done a good job picking winners. My record's not actually terrible, but last night was a tough pill to swallow. The idea that we can't cover four and a half in a game. In a game to go to win your division, pretty much, because both teams have a softball, and we go to overtime and just lose the coin toss. At least a good friend of mine was on the coin toss or the Reds or the Commanders, excuse me.

And then you just get absolutely dog walk right down the field. That was a tough pill to swallow. It was. I was really annoyed with that. And Raheem Morris not being able to call a timeout. I figure at this point probably a third-grade person could manage the clock better than Raheem Morris did yesterday. It seems to be an issue across the NFL, though.

I feel like this year more than any other year, I seem to be pulling my hair out with coaches. Chicago's done it a couple of times. Chicago on Thursday was worse. That was terrible. That was worse than Raheem Morris. I actually thought Raheem Morris did a worse job in the first half, which he's getting a pass for because of the end of the game.

I mean, you said it. It's weird because there are things in the NFL that are very intellectually driven, that are very hard to do, very hard to execute. You know what's not hard to execute? Calling a timeout.

Especially when you have a rookie quarterback and you throw the ball to midfield and it's inbounds and you have two timeouts left. I don't know if it's the physics of people having to run to the line of scrimmage. I get if it's a two-yard gain and everybody's still there. You've got to get O'Lyman up there. You've got to get a rookie who's finishing up his second game to run to the line and call a play.

Like, stop it. Call a timeout. We've got one to play with still. We don't need that many more yards. But then you roll out some scrub kicker, and we all know how I feel about that, and he's 12 yards short, and I don't cover, and now I'm on the verge of being eliminated this year,

and I'm upset about it in case you can't tell. Hey, Al's brother in tap, man. I don't want to interject here, but this sounds like a man who is taking out his rage for being down plus five to Hayes and Bro on coaches and kickers

and everybody else but himself and the O-Dog. Am I right on that? I don't know where the O-Dog is, so I can't take my rage out. Is the O-Dog the brains of the operation the whole time? No, he was the O-Dog is, so I can't take my rage out of him. Is the O-Dog the brain to the operation the whole time? No, he was the vibe guy. Things have gone so south. He was the vibe guy, and the vibe guy left.

It's gone so south since he left, though. I've never hated picking spreads more than this year. Like, the last couple years, I'm always like, oh, I'm humming, boom. Yeah, you missed the odd one, but you're feeling good. I sweat every spread. It's absolute misery. The NFL fan duel and the odds makers are getting

so good at this, though. They're getting so good that these games are right down to the wire. I mean, look at the game that we picked the other day. The Vikings last night, that spread was at 1.5. 1.5. We were so close. We took the Packers plus 1.5. They lost

by 2. It's literally to within and a half. They lost by two. It's literally to within half a point. It is. And again, last night, it's four and a half, and you lose by six. And it's tough. And, Chuck, you're right. I am annoyed. Now, the funny thing is for me, though, is we're technically not done yet.

So would it shock me if Al's brother pukes all over himself? He's going to miss tonight. And now I've got five games I've got to pick next week. And the good news is I'm in control because I'm going to have three picks. If we get a win tonight, I'm picking three winners. So I need Al's bro to lose two. I mean, it's not – No margin for error for you. Yeah, there's no margin for error.

But this is what – the one thing that shocked me when I'm on this rant is your captain, Hazy B, for all year has been spewing this nonsense that the regular season doesn't matter. And I don't know if we've got his tweet up, but somehow this man tweets saying this will be us tonight with the Stanley Cup coming in. I'm not a hockey guy. Boys, I'm not a hockey guy. But I thought the Stanley Cup was given whoever wins the playoffs.

Is that not what the Stanley Cup's for? Depends on the city guy. Oh. Remember when you're seated. Good point. Look, it's step one to getting the Stanley Cup, okay? Okay, yeah. You guys are the driver's seat.

Step two is sweeping this whole thing with the championship. That would be a real tough pill for me to swallow. It would be really tough. I have a question for you, though. To go back to that Vikings and Packers game from last night, which is so close to Jordan Love coming back on that thing, but Sam Darnold had a great game, and Darnold's been unbelievable this team, they won like 14 games.

Why do I keep hearing that the Vikings still might decide to go in a different direction? Does that make sense to you after the season that Darnold's had? There's a tweet. Like, this guy is the biggest fraud after all of the nonsense. But the regular season doesn't matter because he's 0-2 in the last couple years. He's one game away from clinching, and this is what we get? What a fraud.

We're going to win the regular season championship. That's the regular season championship? The actual title. Oh, okay, okay. But back to what? It's unbelievable. So, you know, I sit here and say, first and foremost, if you're a Vikings fan, it's a great problem to have.

You know, you look at the situation and the decision they have to make, and I don't necessarily think there's a wrong answer. You know, do you go with the youngster J.J. McCarthy, whom you drafted, who you obviously, in that draft process, you thought was going to be the future of your franchise? Or do you bring Sam Darnold back, who's playing at a tremendously high level? It's much better to have those options

than to, say, be the Cleveland Browns right now. Yeah. So I would say that, first and foremost, for the Vikings. But it's a weird one for me, because I believe your best chance at winning consistently is what the Niners

had last year. And even this year if they were healthy, which they clearly were not. But you get a guy who can distribute the ball, play the game of football well in Brock Purdy. Does he have the most electric arm in the NFL? No. But I think Brock Purdy plays the X and O game of football extremely well.

You load him up with a great roster, and you say, hey, we're balanced across the board, and here we go. And I look at it, to me, offensively, and obviously Jared Goff is not a Sam Darnold quarterback at the moment, but the Lions are built that way, where to me, across the board, they're loaded on offense. You've got a great O-line. You've got Laporta, tight end, who's on his rookie deal,

but I think he's a very, very good tight end. Amin Ra is an all-pro receiver. You've got two great backs there. And then your support guy's a receiver. Jameson Williams is going to take the top off. Patrick's a bigger body. I think they're getting Kalief Raymond, kind of be more of that shifty guy. He's coming back off injury soon.

So that, to me, is the best way to build a roster. Now, again, I look at this Vikings team and I say, hey, you already paid Jefferson. You know, you got Addison, and you got TJ Hawkins, who's also in a big deal. So yes, I believe Sam Darnold should be paid. But to me, if you can get JJ McCarthy up to a place where he's close to Sam Darnold, use that extra 50 million on two DBs.

And now tell me where the weakness in the Vikings is. And I mean this sincerely. People forget the Vikings' run defense is number two in the league, yards per game and yards per carry. They are susceptible. I think they're a bottom-four team yards per game in pass defense. They're susceptible on the back end. So I sit here and say, you know, that's the chess game you play.

I don't think it's a bad decision to pay Sam, but I think for longevity purposes, you probably want to go JJ, but the school thought no one talks about is if you really love Sam Darnold that much and you think he's the future, I bet you can get a haul for JJ McCarthy right now. Especially with the quarterbacks coming

out in this draft. Bad draft. You come in here and you say you want your first round quarterback, we've got him, but you're going to be paying a lot more in a first-round pick for it. I personally would go down that route if I were the Vikings. They're a great football team, and it's outstanding to me that here we are, boys, in week 17, and a week from now, they still have an opportunity to not only win the division,

clinch the first seed, and get the bye week. And they're doing this all with Sam Darnold at the helm. And the fact that if they win, they can do all that. But the loser gets the fifth seed. And what's crazy, you know, it's funny, and not to the same degree, because they have better records. But I remember, we didn't play each other, but the year we won the Super Bowl in Seattle,

we went into week 17. We only played 16 games that year. And we were 12-3. And we played the Rams. And it was the same situation where we had to beat the Rams, who earlier in the year we had won like 9-7, I want to say. Like we always struggled with Fishers-Rams for whatever reason. And this is back when they were in St. Louis.

So I remember sitting there being like, man, we're sitting here at 12-3. The idea that if we lose to the Rams, we don't even get a home playoff game is insane. Assuming the Lions win tonight, you're going to have a 14-win team on the road in the playoffs. Yeah. That is wild. It's hard for me to wrap my

head around testament to those guys so i mean both teams they are very very talented and very good football and very well coached so luke and look when you look beyond sorry go ahead go ahead tatman no go okay so uh when you look at the standings if I asked you to pick the best team in the NFL right now, would we be guilty of looking past the Chiefs? Yes, yes. Pat, man, this is what's driving me nuts about this whole, I don't know where this narrative came from. First and foremost, the Chiefs are 15-1. Oh, you know, one possession games.

Get out of here, man. Get out of here. Everybody has one possession games. Oh, they haven't looked good. You've won possession games. Oh, they haven't looked good. You've won 15 games. And let's be honest, if they were starting everybody, it would probably be 16. Okay, we'll see

what happens. I still think with Carson Wentz and they got shot to beat the Broncos, a little overrated. But then on top of that, we'd love to sit here and talk about Patrick Mahomes because he hasn't had his best year. The defense has been incredible. The points per game they're giving up is elite. They make a ton of big plays.

There's been moments where it's not flashy. But they certainly play well in the red zone. I sit here and say we've totally forgot about the defensive side of the ball. And the next thing I'll say is that since Hollywood Brown's been out here, the offense has looked wildly, wildly better. So, yeah, if anybody is sitting here saying that the Chiefs are not the favorite, I'm not saying they can't get beat. You know, I think Buffalo might have a shot.

Probably not, but I think Buffalo might have a shot. I think Baltimore has a shot. You know, if Joe Beasley gets into the playoffs by some miracle, he definitely has a shot because he's playing out of his mind right now. You know, you've got a weak defense. But to me, the Chiefs are definitely the favorite. Luke, I was wondering how you sort of look at the philosophy around Week 18. There are a couple things to still be decided.

There's seeding to still be decided, but a lot of the teams are locked in, including the Eagles. And you've got Saquon Barkley with a chance at making a run at a historic record, specifically Eric Dickerson's single-season rushing record. He needs 101 yards. If you're the head coach of that team, Luke, do you play Saquon in a meaningless game for the vanity of the record,

or do you say, Saquon, I'm sorry, buddy. We got to rest you. We got to think about the playoffs. So a couple things there. I think for Saquon you ask him. He deserves that. You rush her 2,000 yards.

Saquon should make that call. And I was a bit surprised to be honest with you Fest Chuck where I thought they took him out late in the game because they're winning. I thought they were going to leave him in because he had already played. He's already warmed up. I'm sitting there thinking try and get him another 40 last night so that maybe he only has to play the first half against the Giants.

That's kind of where my head was going. But I do think you have that conversation with Saquon, and if Saquon says, hey, I want to get this record, you go out there and you roll. Again, you don't play football thinking, hey, we're worried about getting injured. I know the fans, that's the idea. But I think, and I think there would be a lot of offensive linemen as well, who would want that record and sit there and be like, hey, I was a part of this record.

To me, being a 2,000-yard rusher in itself, as a guy who played with Marshawn Lynch, we obviously never got 2,000 yards, but that would have been something that I would have been wildly, wildly proud of. So I think that there are other guys that probably want to play to sit here and say, hey, we were the greatest rushing attack in NFL history. Would that be a conversation within the locker room? For sure. Would they go up to Sirianni and be like, we want to do this?

Yes. Let us do this. I think this is going to be very, very player-driven. Or if guys are banged up, that plays into it as well. Everyone's playing with an injury at this point. What I'd also say, to kind of finish your question, is when it comes to resting guys, and we'll see, and I could be wrong here, but let's take the Chiefs, for example.

I sit here and say, okay, you've got the one seed, so you played Saturday, so you go eight days to this next Sunday. I haven't seen exactly where they're playing. Are they playing Saturday or Sunday? I think Sunday. Okay, so you go

eight days. Let's say Mahomes doesn't play. And then you go another seven days, and he's got the bye week. And then you go another seven days before he plays. So you're looking at 20 to 22 days before the guy takes a live bullet of a football snap. And I don't love that. You know, if I'm Andy Reid, I'm sitting down with Patrick Mahomes, and I'm saying, listen, this is what I think.

Let's see how your body feels. See how the ankle is. But I think you come in here and you prep to play the Broncos like it's a full game. In practice, we're still giving you a lot of reps. Carson, I'm sorry. You'll get a couple more reps, but you're not going to be getting... We need to keep Patty Holmes in rhythm, sharp, ready to go.

Boom. You come out here, you warm up like it's a regular game. You start the game off. If I'm Andy Reid, I'm going to Patrick Holmes, I say no Superman plays. I don't care if it's third and three and you're scrambling and you need a yard. You're sliding. We're punting. And I'm giving them a drive.

I'm giving them maybe two. At most. Play the first quarter. Let's get a little more rhythm. Let's keep that thing going. Get the sweat in there. Feel pretty good about it. Again, we're handing the ball off a lot. We're doing

quick throws. We're protecting them. But that's kind of where my head goes because I wouldn't want a guy outside of live bullets for 21 days. That's just not where my head goes when it comes to playing guys. And you can say, oh, he's at risk of getting injured. Well, you're

an odds guy. Al's brother's an odds guy. Clearly, he's made some good picks this year. You know, I sit here and say, oh, he's at risk of getting injured. Well, you're an odds guy. Al's brother's an odds guy. Clearly, he's made some good picks this year. You know, I sit here and say Patrick Mahomes has, I believe, played every snap this year, minus a couple when he had an ankle injury. Yeah, that injured the ankle. But that plays into it because he's nursing the injury. That might play into it. Like Saquon's not.

Correct. To me, I sit here and say, all right, the chances that you get hurt that you miss two weeks in 12 plays of football, six of which you'll be handing the ball off, are very, very slim. So that, to me, is a risk I'm willing to take. I think it's good for the mental. I think it's good for the body. Very short leash. Hey, we're playing one quarter.

We're getting you out of there. And you get the rest of the tennis shoes on the sideline, take the helmet off, take the shoulder pads off, help the boys out, and next week you get off too. That's kind of where my head would be with a lot of resting players. Where do you have Josh Allen's season ranked? Ranked as far as his own personal play or as far against others? No, who he is.

By far his best. And there's one stat, and it's the turnovers. I don't care if he's had better numbers throwing here or there or whatever. The fact that he's done what he's done by never turning the ball over, pretty much, has been wildly impressive. I think he's clearly taken a step in the right direction in that sense. When they've needed him to use his legs, he's been phenomenal. So I would say by far his best football playing season.

And it's funny because back to my Chiefs rant earlier, but there's a lot of people out here that say the Chiefs are fraudulent. The Chiefs lost one game to the Buffalo Bills where Josh Allen on fourth and two turned into Superman and scored. And it's like, oh, Chiefs are frauds. Again, I'm assuming Josh is probably going to win MVP. The Chiefs are one play from the league MVP away from being undefeated

and in the conversation of the best team ever. Again, we'll go back to Josh, but to me, there's been moments where you can't play football better than Josh Allen has played this year. So I would give it his best season for sure. One of the stats that sticks out to me about that season too, like this year that Josh has had, since November 10th, this is what? December 30th?

Since November 10th? He's taken one sack. Yeah. That's it. So that offense is not starting from behind the sticks very often. No, I'm telling you. To me, I mean, the Lions game was wildly impressive. I thought his most impressive game was the loss against the Rams.

To me, that was more of an MVP case than anything he's done. That should have been a 30-point loss. He had six touchdowns himself. It was crazy. Three rushing, you lose the game. Are you kidding me? Yeah, so I think Josh is playing really well. But the AFC, I do think not getting the

one seed makes things tougher. That's not a wildly crazy take. But I sit here, and I am convinced, I'll be honest, I am convinced that the NFL is rigged after two years of TSN here. I'm convinced now. I would be shocked if the Finns got any breaks from the refs next week, any breaks, because the idea that the two best players on planet Earth right now, I'm not saying career-wise,

but the two best players on planet Earth right now are Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. And the idea that good old Roger Goodell and the Illuminati that runs the NFL can have that matchup in the first round of the playoffs, I mean, that's what dreams are made of. Yeah. So if somehow that occurs, you know, I think the Bills have a very, very tough weather, potentially going to have to play Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson,

and Patrick Mahomes. That's an absolute gauntlet. But if Josh plays the way he's done, they got a shot. They got a shot. So if you had to pick it, Luke, I know picking hasn't been your forte lately, but if you had to pick between those three teams. Easy now. Easy now. Picking spreads.

Okay, picking spreads. If you're picking straight up, you just got three teams. You got the Broncos, the Bengals, and the Dolphins all with a chance here. Who do you got? Festruck, do not, do not do that. Do not do that. Do not. Thank you, Festruck. that. Do not do that. Do not. Thank you, Festruck.

You're a man of integrity. Doogie's laughing over there. Sorry, I was too distracted by the dummy beside me. You said between the Chiefs who and who? Well, in terms of the teams that still have a mathematical chance of getting in for that final AFC playoff spot, you've got the Broncos, the Bengals, and the Dolphins. Yes.

The Illuminati notwithstanding, who do you like squeezing in there? You know, my head would say, believe it or not, the Dolphins. I think the Chiefs – I mean, I think they win. I think Carson Wentz is a veteran guy. I think that Spagnuolo is still going to draft up a great game plan for this game. You've got to think that on a Super Bowl caliber team

and a team coached by Andy Reid, they're not rolling in bums. There are some teams where the backups look really lost. I would say on the teams that I were on that were very, very good, our backups were elite because first and foremost, we were the best team in the league.

But secondly, it was like, hey, if somebody goes down, you've got to be ready to play a Super Bowl caliber football. So I would be surprised, even with Carson Wentz in there, I think the Broncos are the 1-7 against teams over.500. I think the Broncos lose. That could flip on me. I could get burned there. Like you said, I've had some bad picks. To me right now, my head says

the Finns, but I think that it would not shock me if there was a couple phantom calls similar. By the way, I would have been going nuts. You want to talk about a phantom call? The field goal that the Vikings had where they called the Green Bay guy offside? That didn't even happen.

Anyways, so you get a couple offside calls, and next thing you know, the Finns get jammed up. Aaron Rodgers decides to actually play good, which don't get me started on that. And now all of a sudden, Joe Burrow's in. I mean, he's got to beat the Steelers, and I know TSN godfather Dennis Barham's listening right now, and he's probably mad at me.

But I think that they probably blow the doors off the Steelers the way Joe Burrow's playing. Blow the doors, Doogie. We've got to make sure that's a pick next week. If we make this, here's the thing. I'll tell you right now, if I have the pick with the Steelers and the Bengals, if the spread is seven, I'm taking the Bengals. I have a question.

So if we win this pick tonight, we've got to make the pick in a couple minutes here. If we win this pick tonight, Hayes and I have locked it in. All you get is what we got last year. Do we bother even making picks next week? Of course. We'll just take a knee. I'll make the picks. There's nothing you could possibly do to win at that point.

Listen, I was told last year that all you get for winning the season is the ability to pick what games we have to pick in the playoffs. You said that. So did Hayes, and I don't know where he is. So all I'm saying is, you know, it's a tough year. In the words of Riley Moss, DB for the Broncos, sometimes you've got to eat a shit sandwich. That's what he said when he lost

the game last week. I'm eating my sandwich right now. Potentially. But don't think for one minute that we're going to lose this playoffs. And don't think we're not coming in here with the Stanley Cup photos. Alright, we'll see. Doogie, I'm done with you too, buddy. I'm done with you. And the quick Twitter updates,

it's ridiculous. You're a fraud too. You're a scumbag. Whoa, guy. Wow. Luke, he said you didn't like bread you said what you didn't like bread when you're talking about that sandwich he stood up for you that's right that's right uh wow so if you had to inherit one of these teams one of these also ran, and I'm going to take the Niners out, all these struggling teams, which one, in your opinion, is the easiest one to fix? The Bears. I know that's a wild take, but I sit here and say to myself, first and foremost, last year the Bears' defense was good, were they not?

Yeah, good defense. They should be better than what their stats show this year. They have good players. I'm not on the Caleb Williams believe train like everybody else is. I also take zero stock in NFL scouts and what they say because I've met these guys and I'd say 8 out of 10 of them are

complete dummies. But outside of that, you know, they claim this guy is a generational talent. I do think he's got a great arm. There's a lot of things he does right now that I'm like, okay, we need to leave that at USC. But that being said, he clearly has not been coached well. And we talked about to the point where their current coach

doesn't know how to call a timeout. So I sit here and say, man, you get a real staff in there, a bit of a culture changer, perhaps Pete Carroll. That's the rumor right now. And now all of a sudden you're looking at an offense that has Caleb Williams, again, supposed to be pretty good, the tight end Cole Komet. I watch the guy.

I think he's a great all-around tight end. He's kind of in prison right now playing in Chicago like everybody is, but I think he's got a lot of ability. DJ Moore to me is another guy. I feel terrible for the guy because he probably should be considered a top five receiver, but instead he's had to start in Carolina and now he's ended here. Again, he's in ultimate prison.

You just draft Romaduse and then you sit here and say, Keenan Allen has looked great. I mean, he's made some big plays. I think the Bears are an offensive lineman or two away from being a very, very strong and a coach, which is the big one, football team in this league.

A.B., time now for the Monday night pick. I don't know if we have any dramatic music, but maybe we don't. You already made it. You already made it. And you should be punished for making it early. It should be a two-game punishment. The doogie's a fraud. I'm not changing the pick.

I mean, I still feel very strongly. It's still at three and a half. Okay. The exact same line as it was the other day, and I got the exact same feeling. The gut feeling's the same. The TG, the tremendous information, all lines up with the Detroit Lions. Let's say that Brock Purdy shows up tonight and they cover this thing.

Let's say they lose by three. How likely is that to happen given the fact that this guy is missing three of his offensive linemen, including Trent Williams? No Christian McCaffrey. That guy's at Garendo's playing on a hobbled ankle. How likely is it to happen that this guy actually shows up tonight? It's likely. It's not a great defense.

He's not going against the 85 Bears. Sure, but it's still a – the problem is the offensive line is what I have with this team. It's not a great the 85 Bears. Sure, but it's still the problem is the offensive line is what I have with this team. It's not a great secondary. I'll give you that. I was actually pleasantly surprised. I was digging into the numbers to see Detroit. Detroit's numbers against the pass are

not awful. You look at the team. They actually rank third among quarterback ratings allowed and third in completion percentage. That's because they've been up 38 points for half these games. Just sitting there pinning their ears back. Possibly. They're going to be up by 30 points again tonight.

Vegas disagrees. Vegas disagrees with that statement. Could be right, could be wrong. But this is what I will say though, for all this chatter, is there a world in which somehow the Niners cover tonight and all of a sudden Saturday I got the first pick and boom I just smacked that thing and now the number's three and then bam you puke on yourself Saturday night and now the

number's two and now there's three games there's three games Sunday and it's my pick boom smacking it and now all of a sudden the number's one with two to go. At that point, how panicked are you? And do not think, I swear to you, if we run the table and win, I will come in here and dunk on everyone. I will burn the studio to the ground. Doogie's getting a swirly in the

bathroom. Hayes better be here. It'll be carnage. It'll be carnage. I'll tell you what I gotta say about that, Luke. The first domino falls tonight. I need six in a row. Six in a row. I just don't see it happening. I just don't

see it happening, Luke. We're gonna win tonight, wrap this thing up, and next weekend doesn't even matter. We'll probably throw those games to give you a bone to make you feel good going into the playoffs. But it all starts tonight. It all starts with my guy, Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell is going to get this team ready to go. This game doesn't mean – people keep saying this game doesn't mean anything

to the Lions. Every game means something to Dan Campbell. I don't know. Every single game. There's certain narratives that I, like, laugh about, like, leaving from playing to, like, being in the media. And I'm not just saying this. When I was playing, I didn't have time to, like, being in the media. And I'm not just saying this. When I was playing, I didn't have time to, like,

think about what the media was saying. I never even paid attention. I hear these ideas, and I'm like, who comes up with these things? Where it means nothing? Yes. I agree. The idea that Dan Campbell is going to sit here and say, oh, this game doesn't mean anything.

I mean, look at the defense, for example. If you're Aaron Glenn, the D coordinator, your roster's been decimated. You've had 45 injuries. You don't think for one minute he's sitting here saying, like, hey, I've got to figure out with some of the new guys, some of the new combinations, who's healthy, what kind of defense we're going to run, play, execute in the playoffs, what guys can do, what they like doing, what they don't. Like, there's so many things.

You don't think that there's guys that might get a shot that have been sitting behind whomever. Let's take the running back room. Imagine being the third guy behind Montgomery and Gibbs. You're probably sitting there going, man, these guys are tremendous, but if I ever get my shot, I can prove

to the NFL that I'm good. You don't think it means something to him? Contracts are on the line for everyone. Bingo. You think the coaches are going to be like, hey, this guy's grinding on scout team all year and probably could start on a different team, but he's jammed up behind Sam Laporta at tight end, who's a stud, and now all of a sudden I'm not going to care? It doesn't mean anything to me? Like that's not the NFL.

So I don't know who writes these there. Dan Campbell doesn't care about this game. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. So I'm glad you said that. And that's why I feel good about the Lions tonight. They're going to put the full throttle pedal to the metal. You know what? I felt good about the Falcons,

and I just need a kicker to make a 56-yard kick, and we're not having this conversation. Because it's three, and you lose tonight, and it's two. But instead, I'm getting jammed, and I'm eating my sandwich. Partsy line one. Caddy, we're on your line. You better hope, Doogie, because the swirly's coming. You're losing six in a row.

That's insane. Just buy him some cologne. He'll be happy. Caddy, give me the Lions. This is what we do for the Lions. Give it to me. That's the Lions can right there. That's right, Tatman. Where is it? There it is. You know what's unfortunate? It was that there's no way to tie. That's the Lions can right there. That's right, Tappan. That's right, Tappan. Where is it? There it is. Yeah. You know what's unfortunate was that there's no way to tie.

I know. I do think if, let's say, hypothetically. If there's a push, there's a way to tie. If there is a push. If we push tonight and you run the table next week, I believe it would end in a tie. So it's still a match. You can't push. Not this week, but let it would end in a tie. So it's still a match of the match.

Not this week, but let's say there is a push at some point. If one of these games we're going to have to pick next week, if it's possible, you will have to make sure that we have at least one game that's on a flat number no hook. That's fair. Just to make it possible. A lot of people wanted the race. A lot of people wanted that race, but it didn't work out. We don't know yet.

Hey, the Super Bowl might end up tied at one point. It might have to settle it for the Super Bowl win. This was a spirit of half hour, I've got to say. Thank you, Taddy. I come in here and bring the heat. I'm telling you. You did. It's too bad you can't reach across and do something with Al's brother.

That's for off the camera. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Coming up next, the highly anticipated Yes Guy, No Guy. This is Overdrive on TSN 4 and TSN 1050. The weekend brings Hurry Up Tomorrow to Rose Bowl Stadium in Los Angeles on January 25th for one night only. Get there with iHeartRadio. Two tickets to the show, flight and hotel from TripCentral.ca, plus $500 cash.

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continues on TSN4, TSN1050, Jim Taddy, Dave Feschuk, and Mr. Cologne, Doogie. How are you, Doogie? How's it going, boys? Good. No head in the toilet yet. No, no.

Not until the NFL picks are over. You're going to get a swirly guy. I definitely don't want that. That would be brutal. No, of course not. It's not happening around here. Who wants a swirly guy? Could you point out that person to me?

Never. No one. No one would. Thank you. Who wants a swirly guy? Could you point out that person to me? Never. No one. No one would. Thank you. Especially in a work setting. Come on. Yeah. Well, it's not that much better at home, Guy.

Very true. Okay, time now for my favorite game, and because I'm here at Yes Guy headquarters, I can do this. Yes Guy. No Guy. Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, drivers and passengers, time now for the overdrive, officially sanctioned edition of Yes Guy, No Guy. Doogie, go ahead, sir. All gentlemen, boys and girls, drivers and passengers, time now for the Overdrive, officially sanctioned edition of Yes Guy, No Guy. Doogie, go ahead, sir.

All right, boys, let's fire it up with some Maple Leafs talk. We got a double dose of Islanders action on Tuesday and Thursday, an afternoon matinee in Toronto tomorrow. And we saw the storyline for the goalies throughout the weekend. We saw a pretty heavy win against the Red Wings on Friday, and then Saturday came along. Matt Murray was in the crease. Hildeby got sent down.

Four goals against an Alex Ovechkin empty net goal, and it just didn't go well for the Maple Leafs there. And now we have to know the importance of Anthony Stolarz. So yes guy, no guy. Anthony Stolarz is the MVP of the Maple Leafs leading up to this point of the season after what we've seen from the goaltending conundrum throughout the last couple of weeks.

Go ahead, Dave. I'm a big yes guy on this. I mean, and, you know, the past eight games with Stolarz out recovering from that procedure to remove the pebble from his knee is telling us exactly that, right? Like they're 4-4. Their team save percentage, guys, without Stollers is 869 in these eight games.

Stollers, of course, have been up near the league lead, if not in the league lead for most of the year at 927. So, yeah, he's been essential, and I think he has been, by extension, the most valuable guy on this team. I'm going to have to go no guy.'m gonna go with that mitch marner mitch marner mitch marner mitch marner i just think that he's reached an incredible level that contract situation doesn't even seem to exist and wouldn't want to know where they would be without him so i'm gonna go no guy doogie yeah that's a fair point tatty many people circle that name mitch marner and that's for my next

question here for you guys 50 points currently on the season a pretty heavy pace and that's eclipsing the 100 point mark so yes guy no guy mitch marner is a lock to reach 100 points this season with the maples i'm a yes guy on this i you know it feels like it's happening like it's uh he's on 110 point pace right now 28 goal pace career highs and pretty much every metric you can dream up and guess what they're gonna need it like with matthews out you know it provides a more opportunity for marner to shine but it also provides the necessity for marner to shine. And he's historically risen to it, and certainly he's proven that this year. I'm going to go yes guy. I'm going to call it no-brainer yes guy.

He's going to exceed 100 points, no problem. Yeah, and you saw in 2021-22, 97 points, 22-23, 99. Now playing in a contract season, you could definitely see and notice on the ice that he's taking up a high notch so a yes guy for me as well uh one more question uh circling around the maple leaves and capitals from what we saw over the weekend um alex ovechkin scored yet again yesterday that's two straight games with the goal i have to say it alex ovechkin will break way Gressi's goal-scoring record this season. Yes guy or no guy? Yes guy for me.

I mean, this is, it seems like a bit of a no-brainer in the Mitch Marner 100-point category because, look, it's not going to be easy. Obviously, it's not going to be easy for Marner to get 100, but he needs 25 goals in 46 games, assuming health. And obviously, you can't assume that in this league, but he's been among the more durable superstars in the history of the sport. Agreed. That's below his career average in terms of goals

per game. He's been able to do that. Of course, he had 15 and 18 before he got hurt. I just think he's got the line mates. He's got a team that's rolling and I think he will, by osmosis in part, that'll carry him to the record before the season's out. Yeah, I've got to go Yes Guy as well.

Saw him play yesterday as well. The shot. The shot's not going anywhere. You know that he's going to take it. You know that he's going to be set up. And somehow he still scores. So that's an emphatic, hard, and all capital letters, Yes Guy. And before I get to the next yes guy, no guy,

you both have been covering sports for a pretty long time. And just a question, have you ever seen a goal scorer of this type of the NHL, like covering the league, watching the league? Like, is there any other ones that come up to mind for you guys? Hmm. I would go with Bossy Curry. There's never been one quite like him, Doogie.

Yeah. Bossy Curry, Brett Hull. I saw those guys. I was, with Bossy and Curry. There's never been one quite like him, Doogie. Yeah. Bossy, Curry, Brett Hull. Look, we saw those guys. Yeah, for sure. I mean, Hull, he kind of calls to mind Hull in some ways, but the fact that he sort of has brought the physical element, he was essentially a guy that would run through people in his younger days and still occasionally does.

The fact that he hasn't gotten hurt, the fact that we have never seen a shot quite like his. And when you look at it adjusted for error, just purely mathematically, guys, he became the best goal scorer adjusted for error, error-ah, not error-er, adjusted for error-ah a long time ago. He was making the case that he was the best goal scorer considering he grew up, came up in a time when goal scoring was tougher than it was in the 80s and 90s.

So, yeah, to me, he's one of a kind, and he will stand alone. Would love to have seen Bossy without the back problem. So there was a guy who was just lights out with the goal scoring, and because cross-checking was a thing to do after somebody scored, he had a bad back problem, and his career was curtailed. You know what's crazy about this, boys, is that we saw him on the ice. It was a five-week process, and he came back on the ice and like two and a half weeks, three weeks later,

already skating and flying. So that says something about his character and how much this goal-scoring record actually might mean to him. That's what stands out here. It really does. It means a lot. You can tell. A great guy. It means a lot to the here like yeah it really means a lot you can tell a great guy yeah it's it means a lot to the franchise too it means a lot to his teammates and they're gonna help him they're gonna help him get it no doubt about it yeah let's stick to

some hockey talk and we saw a debacle of a performance for canada on saturday a three to two loss and heads of the latvians and not many people expected that. They bounced back against Germany with a 3-0 win and we know what tomorrow means for this country. Canada, US in Ottawa, 7.30 on TSN just going to be spectacular and yes guy, no guy, despite the two unused performances

from Canada, they will 100% play in the gold medal game. Like, it's a lock. It's happening. I'm a no guy on the phrasing, Doogie. I just don't like the idea that this is a 100% lock because it's junior hockey. Canada finished sixth in this tournament last year because one loss can derail you, right?

It's a very unpredictable tournament as we've spoken about here. But I do like their chances. I really do. If I had to put a Jerry's percentage on it, it's high because I do think the Latvian loss and the close game to the Germans is the best thing that can happen to a Canadian team in many ways. Shocks them into attention here. Dave Cameron's got their full attention because of the fact that they're on

the brink of embarrassing themselves out there. So I like their chances, but I can't go as high as 100. I'd give it about an 85. Yeah, I'm going to say technically, yes, Guy. That was a Friday night game, and they didn't play bad. Come on, it was an eight-round shootout. I mean, I wouldn't crap on them for that. They haven't allowed a five-on-five goal, which is noteworthy.

They've only scored a few. I like this team because it's kind of different from any other team canada and that the structure is there um the puck possession is there the goals aren't so i mean this isn't a bad problem to have tomorrow night's game is huge but i think they're gonna i'm not gonna guarantee it but i think they're gonna get into the gold medal game so sort of a tentative yes guy and before i move on to the next one i want you guys to hear from dave cameron he spoke about last night's game and kind of used a word that stuck out to me so we'll hear from dave cameron and i want you guys to uh to pick up on what he said real solid you know outside of the fact i think there's two things we're a little bit snake bitten on the offensive side of it but

it's not from lack effort effort or lack of play. And then we've got to cut down the penalties. It's ruining our momentum. Snakebitten. That's the word that sticks out to me. Well, they are. That's what one loss does to you. Yeah, they have had some posts, but I agree with the penalty thing.

Some of those penalties they're getting called on are the other team is sort of getting under their skin physically, and they're getting sucked on are the other team is sort of getting under their skin physically, and they're getting sucked into some things there. Agreed. But, you know, it's a tale as old as time, guys. You can't go into double IHF tournaments and then be surprised when the reffing is different than it is in the CHL. I mean, everybody knows that it's going to be different. We've been watching it for decades.

It's always been different. And if the coaching staff isn't getting that message to players early and letting them know it's going to be called differently, then they're not doing their jobs. Doogie, not really a yes guy, no guy thing. I'm just looking at the, oh, they don't like it. My staff doesn't like it. Really?

Headquarters doesn't agree? No. The LLP people are going, well, what's this all about? Oh, my. Yeah. Well, I might have one more. There's no question there. I might have one question there i might have

one more that the headquarters will like i hope okay yes guy no guy the raptors will never be in playoff contention as scotty barnes being the number one option on the team they just lost their 10th straight game oh that's that's tough you mean this season are you saying i'm saying in his tenure with the toronto raptors i'm bringing the heat oh Oh, that's tough. You mean this season? Are you saying never, ever a tenure? I'm saying in his tenure with the Toronto Raptors. I'm bringing the heat. Well, I'm a no guy on that. I think they haven't even seen the future is now, as they called it in the offseason when they signed Barnes

and a guy named Emmanuel Quickly, who you may have heard of, but you haven't seen play in an awfully long time because he's only been out there for mere minutes this season. But until I can see this team with Barnes and Quickly, given that they've invested $400 million in these two guys and they haven't played together this season, I'm not going to condemn them to never being in playoff contention in the Scottie Barnes era.

But I'll tell you what, Doogie, it's not looking good. There's no consolation in what they've been doing lately, and Scotty Barnes is as much responsible for it as anybody, and it's not a good look on his resume. All I can say is no guy. They will be at some point in contention with him in the time that he's here. This year is a disaster. There's no way around it, but it's fixable.

There's a lot of good components there. It's just injury problems, and it's too late in the season. You've got a 10-game skid. It's hard to come out of that stuff. Yeah, and we heard from Dave Cameron saying Snakebitten, and Darko Ryakovic and Scotty Barnes also had some glaring comments to describe last night's loss. Right now, as a team, we hit the wall.

It's very simple. We hit the wall. It's very simple. We hit the wall. We look tired. We look drained. Guys are not in the rhythm. And that's reality where we are right now. And we got to find a way how to get out of it. And the only one way to get out of it,

it's always the same answer. It's back to work and staying together and watching the film and going through practice and addressing the right things and getting better. We just got to come out with a better effort every single night. We just can't allow ourselves to get down in that position. Beginning of the game, we could have made better choices. We had some turnovers, myself included.

made better choices. We had some turnovers, myself included. But every single game, we just can't allow ourselves to get down to this point and keep laying teams every single game. 130 points each every single night or more for these last three games. That's just unacceptable.

We just got to take it upon ourselves to come out with a better effort. Unacceptable, not fun. That's two things you do not want to hear from a professional sports team. They need 48 minutes. They don't get it far too often. They get 40 minutes, but not 48. Guys, I got news for you.

If they're tired and drained, I got news for you. They've got 50 games to go. They're 32 games in. How can they be tired? They're pro athletes. That's what happens when you lose 10 straight. Are we going to play something to chew on next? We will.

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Toronto sports scene in 2025? Is it Leafs reach the Cup Final? Raptors get the No. 1 pick in the NBA draft, or Blue Jays finish last in the AL East? What do you guys think? I'm going to go with the Jays last in the AL East. That's two years they've gone Christmas shopping and come up with stocking stuffers.

So that's my pick. Yeah, this is a unanimous one, I think. It's all about the Jays finishing last. They're the favorites by a mile to finish last. All the teams around them are getting better, and they're twiddling their thumbs. I agree with that as well, guys. We're out of time. Hour number three is next.