OverDrive - OverDrive - February 10, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill, and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joins to discuss the Eagles' Super Bowl victory against the Chiefs, the dominance in the game, and Patrick Mahomes' rough performance. They also discuss the biggest contributions in the Eagles' win, the Chiefs' dynasty next steps, Jalen Hurts' winning the Super Bowl MVP, the 4 Nations Face-Off rosters for the tournament, and Luka Doncic making his Lakers debut.

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Running TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker and up on TSN for Brian Hasey, O'Doug Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan. What's going on? How we feeling day after super bowl when the game's over the quarterback shake hands and they say great season excellent job the coaches shake hands and say great job good try i would like to extend a virtual hand to you and say

no no great job good try virtual hand to you and say No, no Great job. Good try. I Think the pro athletes at the end Yeah, I mean we had you guys up during the regular season you weaseled your way back And then we just stomped on you and said get back where you belong in the bleachers Alright, I gotta give you credit. Congratulations to Owen Wilson. Luke's going to call us here in a moment. It was a Super Bowl that will be forgotten. Let's call it what it is.

It's a Super Bowl. Terrible game. Terrible. It was an awful football game. Anybody that had the idea of turning it off after the half, you weren't wrong. No, it was over. And the thing that keeps you around is 28 to 3. Yes.

4-1 with 11 minutes to go. But I never got that sense. No, it never felt that way. And I was trying to put myself in that position at halftime. It's 24-0 Eagles. Philly's dominating. Mahomes is running for his life and he looks awful. And I was trying to remember the feeling when it was 28 to 3 for the Falcons.

And I'm like, I guess this is what it felt like because I'm sure At that point we all thought it was over. Of course We did when it was 28 to 3 No one thought Tom Brady and the Patriots could possibly win that game But out of respect to Mahomes and Andy Reid and the greatness of the Chiefs I tried to get there. I tried to find something where I'm like, you know what they get the ball to start the second half Maybe they marched down the field then there's a turnover it's 24-14 all of a sudden okay we're alive and I couldn't do it I couldn't do it at the half I certainly couldn't do

it once the second half began credit the Eagles they were outstanding and that will be remembered forever and they deserve that I'm not trying to put down anything that the Philadelphia Eagles did they had an unbelievable season greatoff, and they demolished the Chiefs last night. But the game, it was an awful game. The buildup wasn't great. We talked about it all week. We talked when it's the same teams every year and the same coaches and same quarterbacks. And it's just, it just happened.

It was just a Super Bowl that happened. It was a formality last night Crazy to watch I'll ask both that you and then I'm gonna ask Luke as well Was it so much that Philly was? Unbelievable or that the Chiefs were bad or a combination of both. I think a combination of both That's how I would have said my homes was terrible. Hey, I thought he was awful Oh, dude I know but they literally swarmed him and beat the crap out of him

and they have like that is the most impressive defensive game i've ever seen by anyone like ravens d like ravens d core that won the super bowl like that was just i don't know that was a man handling i've never seen in that week you're right though like they swarmed them but that that pick six, who was he throwing to? Well, he made some throws. I'm sorry, if you're going to be considered the greatest of all time, and he's in that conversation still, regardless of what happened last night, he's still the best player in

the world. None of that changed last night, but you cannot make the throws he made. He made some awful throws, awful decisions. I thought he had happy feet, and yes the eagles defensive line was dominant they did blitz once last night not one blitz everything was just them controlling the line of scrimmage and it was unbelievable the eagles with a better team top the bottom they deserve to win

undoubtedly but that was not rex grossman you know with a great run game in a great defense that okay he became rex grossman. It's Patrick Mahomes He had 24 yards in through two picks in the first half This last night I thought he was awful And that's what stood out to me and it probably speaks to the greatness of him that it always still revolves around him But he was he really struggled and yes Philly created a lot of that

But he never did anything to change the paste noodles Yeah, that's like there was nothing that changed. That's what I was so that's what I was so like concern not concerned But I wanted to hear what you guys had to say about it Was it just that Philly was that dominant or he just looked like you had an off night and couldn't get it together And and was trying obviously, but he could not get it together Combination of both clearly and credit where it was trying obviously but he could not get it together combination of both clearly added credit where it's due but when he wins it's all about my homes all the time i think we are uses

gotta be some of it on his plate as well uh... all right let's head down in new orleans i'd believe our boy luke is through security and we will see is cook reason when the same is cool very gracious victory very quiet it's rather than her from him in twenty four hours and

uh... there is a lot of wills uh... congratulations well played well played okay first and foremost where's the million million dollars arts common where the regular season uh... you've you've got all the old nilly nilly wasn't played today was a party and i love the idea of what it is before you get into the details of the game i just had to scroll back into our text chain

and find that little text ballers no ball hashtag because on the twenty second the december i floated to your parts and i said i think the to you, Parts, and I said, I think the Eagles can win it all, and you said 1,000%, Partsie. That's what ballers do. Thanks for being my partner all your life. And that's facts. That's facts. And Parts, you know I love you, man. I got to give credit where credit's due. I started the week on Kansas City. I said that on Jay on Wednesday night, and all of a sudden I'm like sitting here,

it might have been the stench in New Orleans, it might have been the heat, and I'm looking at this thing, I'm like, I'm kinda leaning to Philly. You know what really pushed me over the edge was the text you sent me when you said, dude, you might think I'm crazy, but I'm going Philly. That was a straw that broke the camel's back.

We went Philly, we destroyed the bot farm, we destroyed the frauds. Like I said, I saw the tweet, people are in the New Orleans airport screaming, say it loud, say it proud, shout out to scumbag Dougie, so, he's in the fraud. All is right in the world again, we smoked the Geppetto bot farms, we are the champions, Part C, I love you, can't wait to run it back again next year, we're going to sweep, we're going to sweep. We're gonna sweep Okay, I gotta be honest though. I was concerned early on Because in the group chat there was some dissension as to he who even won the first what was that first one?

No coin toss tails for down to hashtag and I was us Picked up the coin. It's like yep. We got it. I'm like, oh, I'll never visit So berated before when I picked heads everyone was like come on man nobody and i'm like it's one of the other the heads that that of a selection evidently or what you know but what i was going to i don't know why i'm a big tales ever fails guy

in for some reason i think this was the strangest moment we create when tales that i was in the exh the auxiliary press box celebrating that we're up 4. And getting the text to be like, hey, no, no, no, you guys are on heads. I don't know where I was when we did that segment. But clearly I wasn't paying attention to coin toss. I legitimately thought we were on tails. Well, it started so promising for Al's brother and myself, and then eventually it got away from us. But in the end, and then eventually it got away from us.

But in the end, you were in the building. So take us inside the building. It's a whirlwind. You've played two of them. Now you've been in the building as media multiple times. Absolute blowout. At any point, at any point, did you think Kansas City had a chance to get back in the game?

And if so, when did that come to an end that you realized, okay, this is over and Philly's just going to demolish them and this is going to be a blowout? The only moment, sometimes when you have a good coaching staff like Kansas City does, I always had a terrible day. But it's 24-0 at the half, Casey gets the ball, they start to drive drive and I'm looking up and I'm saying okay, it's very tough But if they go down here and get a two-point diversion You're now sitting at a 16 point Deficit, you know you get a stop

We're at least only two possessions with the two pointers away back into it still a very tough task But when they got stopped on that first drive and then Philly ended up adding this lead, I'm like, this bad boy's over. And it wasn't close. Like you said it, from the very first snap, it was not close. I do think, and I'll stand on this,

I think that Kansas City's defense played a little better than the score shows. But, and part of the reason the score got so high is when you're playing Philadelphia. Like the reality is when your offense and your quarterback has a QBR of 10 at the half, and I think they had 14 total yards throwing or something like that, you're not,

like you can't let Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and Devontae Smith get 70 plays in a game. Like, it's just a matter of time. So I was shocked, you know, for them to have a home's play, but it was a lot more Philly fans than KC. From right off the jump, Philly absolutely dominated this game. They kicked them in the teeth.

Part C, it kind of made me think of hockey a little bit because I think it was a couple years ago where one of us asked you, it might have been me, something that's common in winning football throughout the NFL during the playoffs, and you said, everybody talks about receivers and quarterbacks, but you brought up physicality on the line, like both offense and defense.

And it's like, that's what it was last night. And you must laugh at all these people that think they can reinvent the game. And sometimes there's the greatest show on turf that does it differently and it's flash and dash, but that was physicality at its finest. And why anybody would ever deviate from that must be laughable. Laughable. And that's how you win ball games. What I loved about last night, despite the fact that we won and things were right there,

I do feel like yesterday was a very, very stark reminder to all football coaches, people, personnel that you can have stars, but the hogs in the trenches are your easiest way to win. You know, and guys that play as a team are your easiest way to win. You know, in guys that play as a team, your easiest way to win. I look at this Philly defense and it's like, okay, Zach bond coming into the season was not considered to be the best middle linebacker in the league. He comes in here, plays in Vic Vangelo system, absolutely balled out all year. It was the defensive player of the year candidate.

Last night and then he had seven total tackles, a pick and a QB hit. The Jaylen Carter supposed to be stars defense. He had two quarterback kids did not have a tackle. You heard that right after the defensive performance. I'm not saying Jaylen didn't play well because they were double them all night, but it's like, okay, if you're going to do this to Jaylen, you had, I think Williams, the other D tackle, had two sacks, Jordan Davis had a sack in there,

Wett had two and a half. I mean, it just was across the board. Cooper D'Sheen, a rookie, comes in with a pitch six, the great white hope. I mean, it's a white cornerback scoring a touchdown in the Super Bowl. I don't think I would have ever said that saying in my life. You know, Quinon Mitchell had three tackles playing DB.

Like, you talk about physicality, you could feel it in the building parts, and I'm not just saying that for Overdrive, it was like the moment that ball was kicked out, you had a team that was coming downhill, possessed, ready to play Smash Mow football, and a team that was not trying to do that. You know for whatever reason I don't know what happened to Kansas City but they were

not ready for that intensity and you clearly clearly showed. With Luke Wilson who's down in New Orleans looking back at the Super Bowl last night and that became very clear like they like Kansas City look completely unprepared. They look shell shocked. You're right they didn't look like they were up for the fight. And I don't know if that's fatigue. I don't know if it's arrogance. I'm not sure what it was. But when we talk about this team, it always begins with a conversation around my homes. And I said what I said off the top. Full everything you just said about Philly is accurate.

Everything you just said. And their front four, their front seven was electric last night. Obviously, they put so much pressure on him and allowed the backs to do what they did but this is not your average quarterback this is Patrick Mahomes who has put forth the greatest you know first six seven year run in anyone's career and he's chasing down Brady I mean we could go on and on and on about the Goat debates I thought the way he looked in the first half in the fourth quarter was completely irrelevant, completely irrelevant what he did and the stats, all the padding of stats and all that, it's completely irrelevant. I thought he looked jittery, I thought he had happy feet, I thought he made some throws

that I'd never thought he would even look towards making. He looked awful in my opinion. What do you make of it? He looked terrible. Yeah, so go ahead. give me your synopsis of their lives what makes sense here so there's a couple things you can you know the only starts of him and you nailed it some of those throws you simply cannot make you cannot have that again like

that and i thought part of it was used press in a bit he was getting rattled because you have hit so much early and i sure press on them but the next thing she yet sorry you want that yes um... because you got hit so much early and guys were pressing on them. But the next thing, yeah, sorry, just give me one sec. Yes, my bad boys, I'm at the airport here. Okay. So the next thing I would say is that scheme-wise,

they're just not there in the sense of like, they didn't try and run the ball. So one of the things that was really tough for the Holmes is even though they don't have a great run game, you know, an efficient run game, they have at least committed to trying to run the football to keep defense is honest. I was shocked because I think everyone thought Philly had a better team. But we all said, hey, you know, Andy Reed, C-Spec, Nolan's going to have better X's and O's and that could be the difference. They simply did not have a good game plan. So that's partially what I would also attribute my homes playing so poorly. To go out against this defensive line and this number one defense in the secondary, like I mentioned, Vaughn, all those guys and say from the gun, our first of the team is going to, I believe they had one rush play and one

for two yards. We're just gonna be one dimensional out front. It's a very, very strange thing to do. And I get that when you're not in a fish to run game, you wanna get away from it. But when you're playing the, it's called the inner chess game as a player, as a D lineman, and you come up and you're like, these boys are not gonna run the football.

Everything falls apart. You know, there's a sack Mahomes took where three guys got out on a rouse. And it was a fake play action, but they hadn't ran the ball at all. Nobody bites into play action. They've kept seven guys in the block, and they still took a sack.

And it's like, hey, Mahomes gotta get the ball out. And you're looking at it, it's like you send three guys down the field, they're all hemmed up. What do you want the guy to do and you technically got eight guys in the backfield and you're taking a sack still like excuse me seven you like you're jammed so that's where I was like not only did the homes play poorly they the whatever game plan they had two weeks of Andy Reid it did not work out well and it was just a calamity of errors across the board that

Exalted an absolute shellacking. Yeah, that's it We'll get you out here with a look ahead to the next season better chance of making the Super Bowl next year Kansas City or Philly I'll go with Philly still but I think both of them have a legit shot Philly just because the conference is weaker But I do think Kansas City, listen, not having her she writes a huge ordeal, him getting hurt, huge ordeal, but I do believe that both these,

we could potentially see a mismatch. I look at, I think Detroit will be very, very stout next year, but you wonder life after Ben Johnson and how healthy will they be? Will the defense be a lot better? I don't know. You know, you look at the Rams, you know, the Rams were the, you look at Philly's playoff right here, smoke green Bay, the Rams went down and almost beat them in that snow game, absolutely annihilated the commanders and then annihilated Kansas city. So, uh, you know, they ran the cup Cooper card cooper cop what's gonna happen there now she's an

item now but you gotta think really is going to have the heavy favorite to run this thing back and get back to the super bowl i buddy safe travels next time i don't know how the hats for you now is brother and i will be in here and you know we're what will say a few words will talk more about the regular sloth in the greatness of our run but

couple words for you guys uh... beloved no what happened to quote well we have a lot of other house but i'll be able to get out of here he's going to be on the one on the more without brother let's get right here right will write the ship safe travels by is that the quillson joining us from uh... it sounds like

was reporting the plane like a little right now cockpits right now uh... i thought about who's going back to that game next year you look at that philly team it's like did they open up something where they have a belief in a knowing now because i do this every time someone was a championship of like i did with the florida panthers the Colorado Avalanche the KC Chiefs I'm like who the hell's gonna beat that team next year yeah yeah I mean that was an ass whooping they deserve that right like you look at it they started the season two and two then they have a team Hayes deserve

that comment like who the hell's gonna beat them next year it's that performance last night so dominant like Luke just, they kind of showed us. They beat up on Green Bay, especially defensively. Jordan Love had no chance. No chance. They destroyed Washington in the championship game. Like destroyed them. Put up 55 points. And then they go in there and completely dismantle Andy Reid reid steve spegnell patrick mahalz in the chiefs they made them look like a cinderella team that finally ran out of gas

do you ever ask the question you're a green bay fan lot of people in the area buffalo fans do you ever say to yourself casey beat you and they just got mangled. Do you ever think about how far teams like Green Bay and Buffalo might actually be if KC got mangled like that? That's the scary thing. Or is it a one-off?

That's the scary thing. Or is it a one-off? Isn't it somewhere in the middle? Like Mahomes was terrible last night. He's not going to be terrible every game. Like dominant players find a way to fight through that. I mean, Philly had a night and I think my homes and Kelsey and all them, I think they looked fatigued. Like to me, they looked like they not prepared. I don't know what the hell they were doing. It was really weird. Yeah. Showed up. They were going to win. I don't know. It's possible. You know, it took me, you know, what are they playing a season 256 games or something?

I said before the season started. I don't think Kansas City can win a three-peak because I think history will get them No one's ever done it before because it's so hard to do it. It's so hard to stay on the ball Every single game like we just saw the Tampa Bay Lightning go through it and then they got to the final and Vegas just said, you're out. You know, like we can't do it. We did everything we could to get here and we're just, we're done. And Kansas city, I don't know if it was game planning. I don't know if that's a cop-up because it's taking away from the greatness of the Eagles, but it kind of looked like that with Kansas city. Like they were playing with fire all year, barely beaten teams. And then they finally got clipped and they're like, man, like now we can breathe. It's almost like they're relieved in a way.

It's like, all right, the three Pete things over, it's done. But now they got to reset. And I think if your teams in the NFC, like Luke said, I'm, I'm, I'm scared of Philly. Kansas city's got a fork in the road now. What do they do? Are they motivated? Do they reset? Do they, do they load back up or do they go into you know? a couple years here where Maybe they take some losses, you know, and there's some turnover like Brady Tom Brady made it very clear. He said it He lived it he went ten years between his third and fourth Super Bowl win ten years Yeah, like he won three in his first four and then all of a sudden he lost in 07

He lost an 11 of the Giants ten years I'm not saying that will happen with my homes and having my homes Involved as your quarterback is gonna make you a relevant team and a good team as long as he's healthy I think the rest of his career, but it's not a guarantee. This guy is just gonna win. They're gonna win every year It's not the way sports. Yeah, what's not a guarantee who's gonna play for a long time that Travis Kelsey looked defeated last night? Yeah It almost looked like there's a chance that he might be saying check I don't know. He just didn't have that look like if you just study kind of people It was like I don't know man

What and if you look at his body of work all year did he ever have one of those games where you were like? That's Travis Kelsey football man. I don't think I saw work all year. Did he ever have one of those games where you were like, that's Travis Kelsey football? I don't think I saw that all year. Not really. Like maybe in the playoffs, like that first game against Houston, I think. But you're right. And someone had a great tweet because he wore like that crazy red suit and he had the beard and the hair and the glasses. Yeah. And they're like, imagine having to put that on after a loss. Yeah, exactly. You put that back on and walk out. Exactly.

And you're like, dude, that's like. You took a gamble, you took a flyer, and you're like, this will look cool if I win. Yeah, if you win, somebody says, man, you look so butter right now. If you lose, someone says, what the hell did you wear that? Go get your Uber. But sitting there in your stall. It's sitting in your stall it's a leader stall when you have to get dressed to walk out here like cameras are going to be on me

and i'm walking out after just getting rent i have a start with this suit back at that time i just go to the traders and say guys give me a tax a bag in your accident i'm out of here leave it in while smith what about that the happiest guy in the building you think was Tommy Brady? It might have been Tom Brady. And his watch? I think, dude, that watch was absurd.

How a fox? Dude, that $800,000 watch. Six hundred grand is what I saw. Eight. Eight. Eight hundred thousand American. How a fox? I can often hear people say American.

Of course it's American, but maybe it's Canadian. Maybe you got it at Yorkdale. They got some crazy stores. I get it. He's got full of time. You talk about a guy with power. I can't imagine there's many executive assistants pulling Tom aside and trying to comb over his plan. But to me, that watch was absurd. Dude, that watch was a flex. Because stood out and like watch people, like they looked at it and said that things I didn't, I just knew that it looked extraordinary. Did it though?

People that know watches looked at that watch and said that guy's wearing a million dollar watch. You could tell it was an absurd amount of money, but to me it just didn't sit right. It's like, what's up? Why are you wearing that thing? Yeah. You can, you can rip off a Rolex Daytona and detona and you look just as cool all class i thought he was pretty good yesterday i'm not gonna lie the one thing i think that he

needs to steer clear from uh... i'd system observation i don't think the guys funny he tried to be funny couple times and i'd literally have to use the side and i would say don't try to be funny enough idea he's not he's that he has these weird jokes to Burkhardt And it was kind of like He's I don't think he is a funny guy I don't either man It is not a person thing is someone that's not funny. They're trying to be funny and

It doesn't fly. No does not fly No, you're right and that was always my thing about about him, is like, he doesn't scream personality to me. He's obviously a presence. You know, he's a very smart guy. He knows football well. I thought he did as well as he could last night, considering the circumstances. It's a nightmare.

Yeah, I mean, there was story time after this, like. That's what we talked about last week. We're like, if this is a blowout one way or the other, this is a, it's a nightmare if you're in the booth. Yeah, you gotta go podcast. That's what you do. You've got to talk big picture, look into the future, what's going wrong. To me, you can't talk about individual plays and break them down because it's a mess.

You can't just kick the guys in the junk over and over again. You've got to go big picture. That's tough when you're calling a game and it's a blowout. Either way. It's very tough. And you gotta, listen, he's been in those situations before I guess, I'm sure on both sides, not really in the Super Bowl.

I mean, he's never been blown out. That's the other thing. Everyone's comparing and contrasting Mahomes and Brady. Mahomes been blown out twice and looked bad in two games. Brady's never been blown out. The three losses he had, it was like a miracle on the other side, right? Philly special and Eli throwing balls up, and it's like, blown out the three losses he had it was like a miracle on the other side, right? Philly special and Eli throwing balls up and it's like there's the watch like that's just a crazy looking watch, dude

Like I don't know man. If you're watching on TSN for for me, it just seems so unnecessary to watch Man, it was a flex. Why does he have to flex the guys won seven Super Bowls? He's the greatest Tom. I didn't look greatest Modic John Madden would wear that John now would have his tie around his forehead yelling about But I thought to me okay, you're right Maybe it's not a flex because a flex would be wearing your ring Maybe one or two Super Bowl rings you're right Like that's a flex where you you've got the mic in your hand and there's two rings or one ring like One ring where you've beaten you know done something like the Tampa ring where he beat my homes in the super exactly

That's a flat that would have been a flex. Yeah, I'll tell you one thing I felt the whole that during the halftime show That was terrible. I don't know what's going on there. Look, you know what? I'll give the guy. I think it was And I heard this this morning on see I'll take Paul McCartney any day Play to the masses you can entertain to the masses like Paul McCartney or you can go to your own like micro Genre like a different genre. Yes, like your own fan base and they deeply knew what all that stuff represented and they all loved it.

But for the average Joe Blow, I knew I was getting old. When that woman came out, everyone was like, ooh, and I'm like, I don't even know who that is. That's how old I am. I don't know who that is, man. I didn't know any of the songs. I'm not hip. I'm not up to date.

I get it. But I understand what you're saying and you're 100% correct. If you go with rap or country or heavy metal, like the people that love the music and love that particular artist are gonna say it's the greatest thing ever. And if you're a Kendrick Lamar fan, you're like, that was amazing, I love,

of course, he's your guy, you love it. But the average person, and that's what the Super Bowl is generally about, is looking for someone who's been around forever That's poppy that dances and does wardrobe changes You know like that's ultimately kind of what you're looking for and it's got to be a Beyonce or a Bruno Mars or a Timberlake Or Rihanna or something where you're like, yeah, it's pop star. This doesn't really mean anything and there's no like the messaging I'm trying to keep up and like oh that meant something about Drake I'm

like what the hell does that matter I don't care about any of that stuff yeah like just play something that's gonna go viral and I was like that girl already looks like Serena Williams it was I thought the same thing I was like probably not it's one of the dancers that has the same hairstyle yeah then I woke up and it was like I was planted there and she was doing a Crip-Lock. Something about Drake and that's what I'm saying. I'm like, how are we supposed to keep up with all this kind of stuff?

Well, you're right, we're older and all of that. And we are completely out of touch with all of it. I understand that. But I still, I didn't like it. Because you're right, I don't know the music and all that. Respect it, I respect artists and all that. But I don't know, I just wanna watch it. I don't need a political message.

I don't need these fighting in-fighting between Drake and this guy. I couldn't name five of their songs, but at the end of the day, these are highly paid performers. Apparently, it was an amazing performance from this guy. Well, yeah, if you're a fan of Kendrick Lamar, like anything else, I didn't think it was political. I didn't pick up on anything. If anything, it was like uber-American and pro-American. I read a little different thing. and i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i

i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i Viewed halftime shows like they had the top ten and people are like what the hell is this turned it off like that Yeah, I mean ultimately I think that's that's probably where it's gonna land and I just I didn't think there was you know It's always gonna be big. There's always gonna be a huge production value and all that kind of stuff. That's the Super Bowl That's what you'd expect But if you were to rank the last 20 there's been some duds I can't I can't say that one last night would be anywhere close

to my top 10. But you move on and it kind of was fitting with the whole game, because the game wasn't great. That's another thing, it was a blowout, you're like you need something to really get going here in the halftime, and it just didn't happen. And then again, we said it all week, New Orleans, the whole buildup, it was stale. It was just a stale, and it wasn't a great all week New Orleans the the whole build up

it was stale it was just a stand wasn't a great playoff run for the NFL wildcard weekend wasn't good there were a couple of good games the Bills Ravens was great Bills Chiefs was great Washington Detroit was a pretty good game you know Bucks Washington was okay wild card but they're just there there were a lot of blowouts a lot of a lot of games that just weren't overly compelling. And that's how we kind of put a bow in the season. Dan Patrick will join us in half an hour. Chris Johnston coming up, he's in Montreal, the Four Nations, everyone's coming together

out in Montreal. So we have some news from that. We'll look back on the Leaf weekend they lost on Saturday night. They've hit the break here for two weeks. And we got Luca making his debut tonight. A couple of news dumps during the Super Bowl Bowl in and around the Super Bowl that we will touch on as well overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 4 Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score

Dan Patrick in about a half an hour Chris Johnston coming up from the Four Nations face-off in about an hour and a half And I will say it's it's exciting to see all these players coming together Yeah, it looks really cool. Like I saw TSN did a great job. They had they tweeted something out a couple hours ago Just a little snapshot where the camera had isolated McDavid talking with McKinnon and then Sid comes into focus and then McCarr rolls in and it's like just the four of them are kind of circling each other and talking about who knows what they're talking about.

And I think their jerseys look awesome, like it's practice gear but the hats look cool. Like everything about it has got me feeling excited and I want to believe in this tournament, but this is what we've been lacking, man. Like this is, this is what we're talking about. There's McKinnon out there with stalling. All you have to do to believe in the tournament is Sid showing up there.

That's big. That is very significant that he's playing through whatever he's playing through and he said he's good to go. I'll throw Drew Doughty into that too, man. Drew Doughty, he is big time. You know we're talking with the halftime show and if you, you know you, some Canadians will tune in, it's a weird analogy. But it's like all right Travis Sandhive, do I know him? You know okay, Pirojko, where's he from? Everyone knows Drew Doughty. Everybody. Everybody knows Drew Doughty. Everyone knows Sid and their throwbacks and they've been

around forever and they've done it all. And Doughty had a gruesome injury. He's come back, he's played four or five games and he's like, I'm in man. I'm flying in and I'm playing. Did you hear his interview? Right, no. Like everyone was kind of professional and they were like, how did you get here? And he's like, well, you know, I've been off a bunch. I've been working my balls off. Do we have? get here and he's like well you know i've been off a bunch of been working my balls off uh...

we have to wait i don't know if we have that one i have this clip set up where he he's talking about getting the call you know excited and proud he was uh... i can't get a cracker is in it but still i do doubt he earlier this afternoon meant the world to me uh... you know been uh... always want to play for Team Canada, always love honoring the country but didn't know if I had a chance or not and worked my balls off in the summer to hopefully try to make it got hurt for a

season, for half the season and then work my way back to hopefully get on it and when I got that cause on the team I was Probably the best day I've had in a lot of months I was just super excited and I'll do whatever role they need me to play. Yeah, this guy's Ricky Vaughn Like he looks like they picked him up in a truck stop on their way to Montreal and he said yeah I'll throw him let me throw my my bag in the back and let's go play on it all cooper when you guys will through kingston all be at the petrol on the side of four oh one yeah i have a company higher percent he's such a beauty drew daddy

uh... and it's cool that it all the sudden you know we spend years talking about what's the team gonna look like and What are the lines gonna look like and I'll tell you what there they are upon TSN for it's a huge honor Mitch Marner has been bestowed with here in day one Because he's on a line with Sam Reinhart and Connor McDavid and if you get the McDavid line That's that comes with pressure David line that comes with pressure, comes with expectation, but that's John Cooper in Hockey Canada saying, Mitch, we think you can do it, man. This is a big, big moment for him.

It's a big moment for McDavid, all of them. I'm quite curious to see how he handles it. I think he'll handle it well because he plays with Matthew Xandor Tavares every shift of his career. Well, it's going to be an interesting watch, Hayes, not just because he's got the call to play with Connor McDavid, but let's not hide from the fact that there's an underlying reason why everybody will be paying attention to him when the pressure's on. It's because in the past him and his Maple Leaf teammates haven't found the recipe to

get it done. So there's been Austin Matthews there all the time. Why is this so different with Connor McDavid? So let's see how he plays. Well, you have to think though, guys, too, that probably I would think Leaf fans would be happy for this because they are going to play on the biggest stage. And if they have some success, maybe they can bring that back into how they would play in their own individual performances in the playoffs for their own team.

Like if you have a little taste of success, know what it's like around guys who have done that. I know Noodle's, but this is not me. There will also be the pessimistic view saying, they didn't perform in the playoffs in the Stanley Cup, so why would they all of a sudden stand out in this event? Well, that's the right. That's not my view. I'm just I'm going to watch it I have to go there and watch the game live but I'm just excited to watch the hockey because you don't see these guys together and it's awesome to watch

I'll be like a kid at morning skate. Well, let me close buzzer. I guess my cool my retort to that Oh is you're right. But like on an individual team, this is the best of the best that Canada has to offer. So it's Marner and McDavid and that. The third line doesn't have Homburg on it. Your individual team, there's a drop off in that. There's no drop off on these teams, especially the US Canada. Like that's as deep as deep can come. I think the Finnish team might be in one a little bit because they've had so many injuries.

Yeah, but can I have a counter to a counter? Sure, absolutely. Ulberg doesn't go out on the ice with Mitch Marner ever. No, what I'm saying is he, Mitch Marner is relying on other players on his own team to have success as well in the playoffs, too What he's he's gonna he's playing on an all-star team So if that team that all-star team gets propped up and they win he's a part of a winning situation I guess what you're saying is in that Canadian locker room. They're not looking up saying hey Mitch you make 11 million dollars You better be good this that's all good all good I think for like let's face it if we were to do a

draft and maybe we do this leading up to Wednesday of the players that Canada is relying on to have a great tournament Mitch is probably not that he's definitely not in the top five he may not be in the top ten let's be clear here and with the Leafs he's in the top three or four. Right. Always. Exactly. Two? Yeah, he might be in the top two. Maybe you take goaltending out of it because that goes without saying for every team. If you have bad goaltending, you're dead. If you have

great goaltending, you're alive. That goes without saying. But Mitch, if that line cooks, it's because McDavid's doing what he's doing and Mitch has got to join in. It's the other guys in the tournament that have more pressure. Like Matthews is the captain of the American team and he's expected to bring it. And I would say Willie, you look at Sweden, Nylander has been maybe, I think probably the best player over the last couple of years in terms of production, in terms of what he's done as a Swede at the NHL level. Now he's bringing as a Swede at the NHL level now. He's bringing it to to this team

So there's just different pressure different element different expectations on all of them Where you get one when the and the other flip side to a reaction will be and this will come one of them will win You know one of those three teams. I think it'll be Sweden the US or Canada. I don't think Finland Well, we'll see but probably one of those three and one of them marner matthews neil enter have a unbelievable tournament best player lead them to a win what'll happen is people say well why didn't you do that's when you were with the leaves and i a great and that's right you know you can't control that they gotta go out and hopefully do both might have a great little tournament here

and i carry it over and bring it in the spring. But you're always risking that as well. Like why isn't that level of production available come playoff time? And, you know, in the end they're all there, they're all healthy. They might be banged up a little bit in some ways. Other guys have decided that they can't go, right? They're injured or whatever. But for the most part, I think if you're the NHL, the PA, and fans of this tournament and hoping for a good tournament, you got pretty much everything you could ask for. I gotta tell you guys, I think those other two teams are totally being looked over, man.

I went through their rosters today. They're damn good teams like they're damn good players and to just say that this and the focus Because we're in Canada is Canada USA, but I'll tell you what that's Sweden team There's a bunch of good hockey players on that team and that's not a nice no joke either No, they're number one centerman won the Stanley Cup last year and was a massive part of it There's some really good players on that team Goaltending is gonna be massive. Well, that's still what sticks out noodles when really good players on that team. Goaltending is going to be massive. Well, that's still what sticks out, Noodle, is when I look at the Canadian goaltending, it just looks weird on paper.

I'm sorry. It's Bittington Hill and Montembeau. Since they announced the team, the three of them, their stats have not been very good. Well, the best Canadian has been Logan Thompson, right? Yeah. And Camper's numbers have been okay. That's selective and you had to pick a team and you picked a team, but Thompson's numbers have been great. You guys think that if they had the option to kind of pick one randomly right before

the tournament based on performance, they would have said, one of you three are out and Logan Thompson, you're in? I could see that I I mean if you had a You know said hey, we got one move to make I think you it's Montembeau for for Thompson Yes, that's what it is for me for sure and I'd be a kick in the pills if you said okay Yeah, local is he's in Montreal. They're playing in Montreal like well The Habs fans are probably looking forward to the break Have you seen them coming down the stretch here like they've completely blown up their season here the last two weeks Um, but in Montembeau hasn't been great. Dolbash is coming back to earth, you know things are there's different reasons for that

But yes, I think Thompson if you could put him in you would you know, right? You absolutely would and he probably starts you probably not only put him in, you would. You know, you absolutely would. And he probably starts. You probably not only put him in, you're like, you're now playing. Like you're the guy, and you're, well, he's been better than everyone else. Dude, you're not, like I know. It's just, it's crazy to think that

the guy you'd probably want starting is not even there. Not even on the team. I think, in a vacuum, yes. But Bennington, you know, I think they're they're comfortable with him Like he's one I think they there's a history there like Doug Armstrong knows him Like I think they would be fine with it. It comes down to Let's show me what we're gonna have this conversation after game one game two you name it if after two games It doesn't look good and they've had to switch out or hey, I don't know who's playing

We're not sure who's playing tonight Net then you're in one then you're going why didn't you you play the old what if for why didn't you? But I do want to give them afford them the opportunity to Play and see if they can you know pull their weight as gold for Canada have to I mean that's the expectation You're playing for Canada, right? The expectations as high as it could ever be in any sport around the world like the expectation is you win and you play well and It just you compare it to the American goaltenders and yeah even you know Sweden and you know Finland's got one or two guys that you'd pick off and it's just it's a weird cycle right now But it is a big opportunity for all you need is one guy to play well, right?

You need one guy to just play well not great not not stand on your head not steal anything They don't give us a chance here. They don't have to win it for you, but you can't they can't lose it for you Exactly. That's the difference. That's the difference. Yeah, and I think you know with the other teams are good Like you said, but there's a there's a better chance that those goalies are gonna be tested You know like the Americans are flying in a third period and they dump 20 shots on net and the guys gonna have to be On his toes Canada the same thing But this is the beauty of bringing the best on best together and it's it uh... it's long overdue and it is it is

got a very different feeling that if we're hitting the all-star break i think that goes without saying uh... damp at your can about twenty minutes on what he saw out of kansas city in philly last night the eagles when the super bowl who he thinks has a better chance of continuing this in the next year uh... and again will will continue to look ahead to the four nations. We've got Chris Johnston coming up today.

We'll look back on the Leaf game over the weekend. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. All right, Dan Patrick in about 15 minutes. Luka Donjic will make his debut for the Lakers tonight. Seems like they may, that might have been, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but maybe the NBA NBA said just wait till the Super Bowl is over and then start You know like it was word he may play on Saturday I think they're at home against Indiana and I'm not playing you know Super Bowl

Saturday that weekend as it get enough coverage I could see the NBA being like just wait until it's done and then start playing and You know take it from there and uh... street clothes street clothes up for a month right entity davis had the one of the great first halves in nb a history that is not an overstatement that is not not hyperbole he he had one of the great first house

in the history of the sport. And then in the second half, he left with an injury and he's out for a month. Non-contact injury. Yeah. Blew his like, right out. Yeah, his abdomen. Yeah, like abdomen. How do you do that?

Turning left. Like he turned right and he's like, I'm done. Yep, street closed. Check please. out for a month After he had been yelling to the crowd like I'm here. I'm here and it's a big moment for him You get traded in the Luca deal people in Dallas don't want them there. It sucks But now you're out for a month Like if you're a Mavericks fan, you're just like are you and you know

Luke is gonna score like 40 tonight and they're gonna dominate and he's gonna look great And I think Brian Burke always said like you can't make trades based on fan reaction because then you just you'll be sitting up with the fans or something like that was his quote. But to think of that response which is completely nuclear by the Mavs fans, like if you thought of that maybe isn't that reason not to pull the trigger on the trade? Like, people were with coffins outside of the building saying, he's not fat, bring him back. Yeah.

Dude, that was the chant. He's not fat, bring him back. That's crazy. Yeah, you're right. It is the entertainment business in the end. And like, marketing counts for something, ticket sales, I get it. I want you to be ruthless. That's crazy. You're right. It is the entertainment business in the end. Marketing counts for something, ticket sales, I get it. I want you to be ruthless.

I appreciate the ruthless attitude, but Street Close is literally going to be in Street Close now for a month. What do you think you get out of him for the rest of this deal? How is the rest of the team going to respond? How does the market respond? Luke is back. It's LA, which makes it so much worse. We said that when it happened. They didn't trade them to Charlotte, you know, they didn't trade them to the Raptors or

something. They trade them to the Lakers and there was a report today, apparently LeBron's camp is already bent out of shape about something that the Lakers are catering to Luka. This is gonna get so good because you just know lebron is not gonna handle it well He's not gonna accept that luke is the man. He's not even one headlight It's only on twitter and it's from LA, but it's like this is not lebron's team anymore. Yeah He does out there ESPN report today that lebron's camp noticed that the Lakers were moving picks around for luca Lebron wanted them to do that and they wouldn't do it for him. It's going to be unbelievable theater moving forward.

Alright, hour two coming up. Dan Patrick will join us. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on TSN4.