OverDrive - OverDrive - February 10, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 3 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston joins to discuss the 4 Nations Face-Off tournament, Canada's strong roster, and the Maple Leafs' trade outlook. They also discuss the Eagles' Super Bowl victory against the Chiefs, the most ideal halftime performance artists, and Bryan hands out his FanDuel Best Bets.

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And yet they go three and one on the trip, positive trip in terms of points, right? You would have taken that every single time. Craig Borube I think was pretty happy with the way his team played overall. It wasn't perfect. It wasn't great. But you get six of eight points. You're comfortably in a playoff spot you're in second in your division and once you get back from the break it is go time though it is go time the trade deadline will be

here before you know it we're less than a month out from that they're gonna have less than 30 games to play that's and 30 gonna be a race total yeah absolutely everyone's gonna be in the same boat. Like the Leafs have played 55 games. They got 27 games left. So, before you know it, it's April, man. Like, it moves quick now. Big time. And you're playing every second night, it feels like.

They've still got two more trips out, you know, out time zone-wise or whatever. They gotta continue on. You know, you got three of four on that road trip That was good for them because again you're looking every night like now Tampa's won four in a row There are two points behind you like you know now, but Ottawa's lost. What was that three in a row? They're not a road down in Florida. Yeah, I did two of them They lost Saturday against the Panthers now. There's a right there. Yeah, you said the deadlines coming up

He's like somebody asked me this this morning Yeah, you said the deadlines coming up Hayes like somebody asked me this this morning said you think the lease would be all in this year on the deadline and I'm like I Don't even know asset wise what that would look like like I Don't even know what all in would mean we have this conversation every year and Exactly that it's it's so easy to say yes, you're all in what what is that? What does that mean like you're not trading every prospect in every pick you have you're not right I think we've had this beef before where you kind of have a problem with all in or the term all in well

Yeah Here's here my issue in the past has been that I didn't love the teams or I felt like there were two or three other Teams in the east let alone the West where I just didn't think they were going to get through them so i thought it would be more prudent to hold on your best assets you know poke and prod make a mover too but i look at it uh... i look at it this way like this this conversation going on in the in the

market about the third line center right and this is doesn't only apply to the Leafs, it applies to every team. But every year, it's you gotta go out and get this guy, you gotta go get that guy, give up a first, give up, like at what point are they gonna draft and develop someone who is going to take that spot? And that's what you want.

Like that's what Florida had, they had Lundell in the third, they drafted him. They drafted him, developed him, he'd be a second line center on half theell in the third they drafted him drafted him developed him He'd be a second-line center on half the teams in the league But they were so good up the middle of the ice with Barkov and Bennett. They said your third line They didn't have to trade a first to go get somebody like Braden Shen or Ryan O'Reilly or whatever And he turned out to be a damn good player Absolutely, and that's the thing with the Leafs is they've they've traded so many picks and they don't have a great farm system.

They don't. They have, you know, they've got some pieces, but right now it seems like Easton Cowan, Fraser Minton, and I'm not sure what else. And then you have picks in the future. And at some point, you need to filter through your own guys. You know, they did that with Nice. Nice was a great pick. He came right out of college, hasn't spent a day in the American League.

Great pick, great player. He came right out of college hasn't spent the day in the American League great pick great player He's contributing greatly awesome Who else do they have like on defense? They have nobody that Morgan Riley they drafted him 11 years ago Like you know they have Joseph wall got the holy yeah, you know that at some point I just feel and it's not right now So I guess you know this is ultimately a moot point because they don't have that opportunity right now But at some point during the Matthews Marner Nylander Era and they're nine years in it would have been great if three four or five guys showed up through the system

Drafted and developed we were like pluck him in and then you don't have to go chase Every single year isn't that where Nick Robertson was supposed to come in? Like that's, you know, you're looking at guys like that. I understand you don't hit on everything. But I think if you are, and I do believe you have to be quote unquote all in whatever that definition is. But if you're talking about the players that are being bandied about and I don't, you know, Brian O'Reilly's, Scott Lawton's, you name it, you know, Nazem Qadri, whoever, on your wish list, right?

You're not getting them for Dennis Malgan. It's Easton Cowan, it's, you know, Frazier Minton, it's going to be players like that, depending on who's going to go the other way as far as what the team you're trading with wants and covets. So you might have to? It's a big decision. Do you want to just you know part with one of those young guys that potentially could be plug-and-play guys Or you've got to find it internally or find a trim around the edges and go We're not going to pay a king's ransom, but we are going to get a guy who can play fourth line and third line

maybe well at that time i've been curious about like this third line center there after whether it's scott lotten or somebody else like so you're telling me if they acquire that player like a guy like frazier mitten or easton cowell is going out the door for that that particular player is that what i'm to believe that's a thing that seems like an overpayment for a guy who's a third-line player. Yeah, but who are those guys yet? You know what I mean? No, I understand that.

Frazier Minton, what is his ceiling right now? We don't have that answer. We don't have that answer. So, you know, we covet them because we watch them in training camp and you know, there's hype around them. Cowan's obviously a great junior player. Yeah, as a translate. I don't know, it didn't look great in the world. And the other thing, Jamie, is you have to ask yourself, can Fraser Minton, by the end of the season, can he step in and play third line center?

Maybe. Like it's something you have to ask yourself, the assessment of your own player. Right. And I think what they end up doing will obviously give us the answer on that. Right? Right and I think what they end up doing will obviously will give us the answer on that right like if they feel like they've got a move and get somebody then They'll be answering it with their actions. You know and I think what's clear we talked about it last week They have six forwards they that really contribute the big four who we know and then knives in Bobby McMahon and

The rest of it. They just don't know who to play where and what they're getting. And that's the problem. Like they got issues here with some guys where they're like, I don't know where to play this guy. Yeah, Max Patcherati is like completely falling off a cliff. Completely falling off. Yeah. And Max Domi, they have no idea what to do with Max Domi. They have no idea. None. You can tell. They don't know where to play him. They don't know where he should fit, how he should fit, what he should do.

Here's Chris Johnston, our TSN Hockey Insider. CJ, the term all-in, it gets thrown around every single year with every market, especially contending teams. How would you define it from a Leaf perspective, and do you think they'd be comfortable with going all-in to make moves for this current team in belief that they'd actually do some damage come playoff time? Yeah, I think that they would be, you know, what it depends on, and I think this is kind

of at the heart of what, you know, the bit I heard you guys talking about there is what is, who is that all in? Like my sense is the Leafs don't even have a full picture yet of, you know, what's available to trade that line. You know, I don't think it's a case where they have one target. Obviously they have a list of names of, you know, players that could potentially fill, you know, especially that third line center role. But you know, it seems to me that they need to figure out who's selling and what they're

selling before, you know, you're thinking about what you're giving up. But you know, I don't think there's restrictions or limitations, but if they're giving up one of their top prospects, I mean, it's for a clear upgrade. I don't see them, I mean, they've still got draft picks. You've got a first round pick next year. I mean, I think there are other moves that they can make that don't involve Easton Cowan or Fraser Minton.

I think if you're giving up one or both of those players potentially it's in a pretty significant deal. And so, you know, at this stage, you know, we're a little inside four weeks now to the deadline. Obviously don't expect too much action league-wide on the trade front to happen during this Four Nations tournament. So, you know, this is a time for the Leafs and other teams to take a look at what's out there and to figure out what they're going to do. But as of this moment, I don't get the clear sense that the Leafs and other teams to take a look at what's out there and to figure out what they're going to do. But as of this moment, I don't get the clear sense that the Leafs know which direction they're going yet with what kind of player they're going to get. Well, like we were saying, let's say that they load up the top two lines, okay?

And it feels like Perubia is very comfortable with Nyes Matthews Marner. It's been pretty consistent all year. When he's gotten away from it, he's gone back to it. Let's say McMahon Tavares Nylander for argument's sake. I think Steven Lorenz and David Camp will be two-thirds of the fourth line. I'm pretty certain that'll be the case. That leaves a third line and a third winger on the fourth line, which as of right now, CJ, you might have a different answer. I have no idea what that looks like. I have no idea what the combination is.

I have no idea how to get the most of it. And I think that's what's driving this third line center conversation is what they really need is someone that can actually be an impact there. Like actually a good player, like Braden Shed, Nazem Kadri, it's like that's a real player. And then you'll figure out who's gonna play on the wing with them. That's my you know do you sense the Leafs kind of

look at it the same way yeah I think that if you could if you're Brad true living or in the front office working with Brad I mean that that's what I would call the ideal scenario because clearly let's face it I mean this team when they've we've all watched the playoff years again again not to relive that but a lot of times it's come down to not having enough offense. And so, you know, I think that they're looking to have a little bit more punch in the bottom half of the lineup, certainly than we've seen the start the year. And, and, you know,

some of the trouble does kick in for the reasons you mentioned, you know, Max Domi is, you know, not, not produced very much at all this season, endured two really long stretches, goalless stretches, so they don't have the right fit, it appears at least right now for him in the lineup. And so I'm with you. I do think that ideally you're adding someone on that third line that obviously you trust offensively,

but also might be part of a unit that can score some goals at five on five. I mean, we know ultimately the team's gotta be carried by the guys making the big bucks and the ones that have filled the net for years and years and years in regular season, but I think they're gonna try to help out that group to have a little more depth,

because right now it just feels like, certainly they have lots of NHL players on the roster, but not clear how they fit beyond those top players you mentioned. So CJ, do you get a sense that they would be leaning towards somebody that could be, we'll call them a third line center, but maybe could be a two, like a two-three instead of a three-four, if that makes sense? Yeah, I think that's the ideal scenario.

I mean, let's face it, it's still not clear where things go with Tavares after the season. Some of the players that have been mentioned do have contracts beyond this year. So if they're making that kind of trade, if you're getting someone that you kind of view as maybe the number three on this team, but he could play the number two in an injury situation or if they're shaking things up to get more of a lineup. I do think that they want to get an upgrade there versus just another guy, you know, but that's going to come at a cost. And we don't yet know how many of those players are available. I mean, even some of the names out there, even, you know, Braden Shen has been a new one that Dregg's talked out there

last week on insider trading. I mean, you know, he's sort of softly out there. He's got a no trade clause. It's not as though St. Louis has got to a point where they're 100% dealing him. I think that they're open to listening and seeing what's there, but the price is big. You know, it comes with a contract, you know, as much as I'm sure from a high level, Leafs love the player, it might not fit, you know,

what they need to do now. And so, you know, it's not a, it's hard to paint a rosy picture, I guess, today, guess today that you know there's gonna be five or six clear upgrades available to deadline I mean that might end up being the case but you know I do know with the logjam we have especially in Eastern Conference the trade market is still taking shape here and I think the Leafs are trying to figure out navigate their way around that. CJ is it a festive mood amongst media members at the Four Nations? Are people ready to talk about stuff at different pubs?

About the different teams and rosters and strategies? It's probably that kind of environment. I just got in here late last night so I haven't indulged in the I just did some work today but certainly lots of people in town for the tournament and you know the one thing I mentioned you guys last week that I'm sticking to I found you the players are fired up for this. The only prediction I have is the guys care. I don't know what the fans are gonna do, I don't know how many tickets are gonna sell, I don't know what the view is going to be from afar for this tournament yet, but the players involved are pretty dialed in on it. I think that after such a long layoff since that last World Cup, a lot of these guys have been chomping at

the bit to get there. And so the best players, you look at the top six for Canada after the line today, the top six for the U.S., it's full of guys. But jackson's is often matthews nathan mckinnon karnick david you know all kind of these guys uh... that haven't waiting something that's for the country and so i think the hockey's gonna be good let's just see if everything else right at the moment well in terms of that

uh... canadian lineup you know first day of practice what stood out to you terms of the lines and and how Cooper is going to play this? Well kind of interesting he moved McKinnon to the wings right and and and you know is playing him With Sydney Crosby. I think that that's what they would have done had we went to the Olympics in 2022 Yeah at that time there was talk of doing the all Nova Scotia line with Brad Marchand as a third member You know clearly a couple years later Marchands, you know, probably better suited in this event. As a bottom sixer for Canada, you've got Mark Stone with that trio.

I mean, a nice landing spot for Mitch Marner playing with Connor McDavid and Sam Reinhardt on the top line. I mean, it's always, especially among the Fords, an embarrassment of riches for Canada. This is a pretty stacked group, but the difference with this tournament that you get even sometimes with some others is, you know, there's not an exhibition game. There's

not really a training camp. Today's the first practice, there's one tomorrow and then they play Wednesday night. And because of the way the tournament works, you play three games and you have to have one of the two best records to go to the final. You know, there's not a lot of room for tinkering around. I mean, even John Cooper said today he's not naming his goalie yet publicly, but he said basically they're not going to toggle between goaltenders. The only circumstance that happens is if there's an injury or if they get blown out, I would think. And so the plan is to kind of ride, I would think, with the lines you saw today, again,

assuming everyone's healthy. And then they're going gonna start one of those three you know really two it's me it's probably Bennington or Hill getting to start and the plan is to stick with them because there's just not a lot of time to tinker with things. CJ first of all my apologies for our board up JP sneezing there he will be fired by the end of the show. Unacceptable. Yeah unacceptable. Don't you think Cooper's just like, I gotta get a flow here and get these best guys out there? The bottom guys, unfortunately, they're just not gonna play a lot. He's gotta get a lot of McDavid, a lot of McKinnon, a lot of Braden Point, and just try to overwhelm

the opposition. Yeah, and I think it's actually set up well to do that, quite frankly. Look, they don't play until Wednesday. All these guys are in shape. I mean, other than, I guess, some injury questions or whatever about Crosby, but, you know, everyone's in the middle of the season here. They won't have played most of them since Saturday to Wednesday. Then they don't play again till Saturday and then Monday and then potentially next Thursday.

I mean, there's no back to backs in the tournament. Uh, I think it's, it's set up. You know, really well to, to ride your top players very heavily. I would imagine that's what Team Canada will do. Now if they get a lead or something in one of these games, they're up three-nothing early in Wednesday's game. That's probably ideal to maybe roll the lines a little bit more. But I'm with you, O-Dog. I mean, it's going to be largely, if we're talking with the fours, the top six guys. Obviously, Cael McCarr is going to play a ton on the blue line for Canada and you know I think you'll see double shifting and you're right it might be might be a few

guys playing six seven eight minutes even though they're they're all-stars otherwise or they're their go-to is on their NHL teams but you know I think that they're going to want to ride or die with the you know the best players in the world at which you know while we might identify what we perceive our weaknesses, our holes in Team Canada as a hole, I mean, you can't argue that the top end of the team is better than any other team here. They've got three Con Smites winners on their top power play unit right now. There's just nothing else like this in the tournament.

Now other teams might be deeper or stronger or get better goaltending or something doesn't guarantee you win but i think that they're going to want to play those top guys as much as they absolutely can yeah you look at the americans that defense pairings are absurd you know there yeah it's just crazy like you get slavin with fox you've got warren ski with mcavoy uh... it's they're loaded like they're they're absolutely loaded that's a loaded team and you can't imagine all the way around yeah they're loaded. They're absolutely loaded. That's a loaded team, man. You can't go no other way around.

They're loaded. There's no denying that. Yet it looks like Matthews is going to play with Gensel and Jack Hughes, which is an interesting line. They're moving Hughes to the wing. The three Leafs that are there, Marner, Matthews, Nylander, who would you expect to be most comfortable in this tournament and who will be relied upon the most by their team in your opinion? I think of those three guys, probably Nylander.

Sweden doesn't have, obviously lots of really good Swedish hockey players in the NHL, but Nylander is meant to be their frontline scorer. We've seen them do it for stretches, certainly as a Leaf last year, now this season, and the guys had a, it seems like every year he scores, you know, a few more goals, gets a little bit better, but you know, when he's pulling on his country sweater, he's gotta be the best player.

I mean, I think there's some expectation like that for Matthews, he's wearing the, the tee, you know, but, but he's got other guys around him that if, you know, the first two games of this tournament passing, he hasn't scored a goal yet. It's not like the heat will necessarily be turned up because I think that there's other players in the lineup to insulate them. And I, I'd say the same for Marner. Now, you know, Marner's skating with McDavid.

So, you know, given the way he's, you know, he's a playmaker, you know, he's there to produce offense primarily. But I think Nylander probably has the most sort of individual expectation among those three Leaf Stars that are at this event. But all of them are in a position, of course, where they're front line players for their countries. So outside of this tournament, it sounds like

the GMs and all that have kind of put the trade chatter potentially on the back burner. Coming out of the tournament, is there a team that maybe you've heard behind the scenes is either on the fence or been very active as to either making some trades one way or the other? Who could be a surprise team for you? I think a big one for me is Boston because I really think that they could go down the

road where potentially they're looking at being even somewhat of a selling team. I mean, you just look at a pending UFA there like Brad Marshann, like would they truly ever consider dealing him? At this point, I have no reason to believe that they're going to do that, but I don't think it can be entirely ruled out. And, and, you know, they have some other veteran players, whether it's a Brandon Carlo or, you know, they have Trent Frederick, who's a pending UFA. I mean, I just think that if they choose to, you know, start a process, even if it's,

if it's just a little bit of a retool on the fly, that they could put some pretty intriguing names into the mix trade wise. And, you know, right now, a lot of teams don't know what they're gonna do. I mean, the Islanders are another one that have some names. No one really knows what Lou Lamerello is up to. And I'm not just talking about the media in this case. It sounds like other teams aren't quite sure

what he's gonna do with some of his guys. And really a lot of the action, I think, Noodle's will be around those Eastern Conference, that are kind of clustered together. I mean, it seems like a team like Montreal is probably selling, uh, you know, with the way they've sort of fallen off a little bit after that hot stretch. Uh, you know, I think they're taking bigger picture as much as they would, you know, still want to hope that their players can find a way towards the playoffs. But, um, you know, that the two weeks on the other side of this tournament are going to be crazy, I think,

for trade activity. Because while I don't expect deals to come down during this Four Nations break, there's a lot of GMs, even the GMs that are here watching this tournament and are part of USA Hockey or Hockey Canada, those guys are still thinking about their teams. So I think that there'll be a lot of chatter during these two weeks about what might happen and what everyone's thinking a chance to maybe take a weird, you know, rare breather in season to look at your group and, you know, make some, some hard calls and, and, you know, basically the,

the tournament ends what? February 21st or 20th, I guess in Boston, uh, you know, and then you got a two week sprint to the trade deadline from that point. Yeah, it's, it is, it's decision time for a lot of teams. I mean, there's certain teams we know where they're going, either end of the spectrum, but there's a lot of teams right there in the middle, and a few of them are Canadian at this point. All right, CJ, we'll let you get back to it. Appreciate you doing this.

We'll do it again next week. All right, boy, sounds good. Chris Johnston, our TSN hockey insider from the Four Nations face off. Yeah, Montreal, to me, it's unfortunate. The Leafs, they're up three-nothing against the Leafs, and then the Leafs come back and beat them. Then they beat the Rangers, I think, the next day, and then Tampa on the Tuesday. And I thought, okay, they're right at the ship.

The Leaf game's irrelevant, and now they've lost, I think game sense yeah and they've they've just plummeted out of it boston doesn't look great like if i'm if i'm the leaves right now obviously you feel feel good about your team is where they're going that it's not a juggernaut you know the pays for like a hundred one points it's not going to be some phenomenal season but really outside of washington no one is having a phenomenal season in the

East. Really I look at it, I think you just want to avoid Florida in the first round and you feel okay about any other matchup. Doesn't mean you're going to win it any other. Why not just big picture thinking like if there's any year where you could kind of, maybe that's the way to look at the trade deadline. It's like why not just go all in and just try to put together a heater unit because maybe this is the year in the East to try to get to a final. Florida's obviously really good. Washington's really good.

But Washington doesn't have a bunch of proven people. They don't terrify you in the playoffs. No, they don't. They had a great regular season to get in last year and New York Rangers dumbed them in the first round. I think Carolinas we got to watch them. They're gonna still do moves They're gonna go they're gonna get a goalie. They got a start score man. Rantin and it's got to figure it out there Yeah, the other guy going the other way is on fire takes time to settle in I'm not too well I hear you I'm not selling I'm not selling my stock in Rantinen. I'm just saying it's a fact. He hasn't had a good start and they haven't been scoring.

New environment. That guy didn't see that trade coming. It's probably a big shock to the system. You're right. I see a lot of teams. I see them live almost every night. There isn't a clear cut one. Florida know, Florida deserves to be one. I could see saying we're going to get going down the stretch here. Well, and I could see Florida making some under the radar moves to add a little bit where they maybe where they thought they lost because of the off season and guys moving on. They let the young guys play, they kind of keep it in house and where they are in their

standings, but then at the deadline make some maneuvers. I think there's still going to be a lot of jockeying for position. I don't know. Montreal, I was saying, their start, I didn't think they were as bad as their start. I didn't think they were as good as their 13-2 run, and now they're heading back down. I think they're an 84-point team. They're playing meaningful minutes here down the stretch, but not a playoff team. And the Islanders are the one that kind of were out of it and then won, what, eight of

nine? Yeah. That feels like it. And now they've lost two in a row. I think that they've failed. Like, Sirocco was playing at a ridiculous, ridiculous rate. You know, Detroit, yeah, I don't know we don't have the answer That's the beauty of it is that we still got a bunch of games and it's gonna jockey and go up and down

But again if you're the Leafs You know, I do think Florida Florida starting to come on and Florida feels like a team that by the playoffs You're gonna be scared of them But you got you got to play them like if it's in the first round or second round or whatever but I think if you play Tampa if you play Ottawa if you play Detroit play any other team in the first round at least they're going to be comfortable doesn't mean they're going to win it doesn't I'm not predicting anything I'm just saying I think you could paint that picture that they would be comfortable in a situation like that

Florida could be different but if you're going to get through the first round you're probably playing Florida in the second round You're probably gonna have to slay that dragon at some point but It's it's there for them, you know in the Leafs or a team a veteran team They've got to do the same thing with 27 games to go you know go 18 and 9 and Don't just back door in or kind of like get going down the stretch and feel good about

your game and figure it out. We're going to be, yeah, I still think there's lots of jockeying. Tampa's a good team. They might end up challenging Florida. Like the Leafs can challenge Florida. Like it's a three point spread with two games in hand. Like nothing is set in stone there. Like that's when you're looking at it. Nothing is set in stone there. That's when you're looking at it. Nothing

is set in stone in the Atlantic and it's going to be jammed up the whole time. You sound like Lou Brown from the Indians. I got vodka voice. You guys know. I'm trying my best to grind through it. I was at the waste management. Yeah. What was it like down there at the waste management? Did you watch one shot of golf like did you watch any call you're at the waste management

to add there was a weird a box on sixteen so where that it like that forever that is that one of the most famous holes on tour and i i don't know i'd hear the cheering and i mean i go pay who's that you're kinda leaving over at the back probably hit that hole in one. Noodles was probably there. No, he wasn't there. That was the day before. I was there Saturday.

Noodles was watching Buffalo at Columbus on his phone. Yeah, I did watch a little hockey. I'm not gonna lie. Thomas and Scheffler are rolling through. All the Canadians did a great job. They all made the cut. It was awesome to see. I met a guy last night named Gary Woodward.

Is that Gary? Gary Woodland, USO. Woodland, yeah, sorry, Woodland. Yeah, awesome guy. Oh my God, that guy was such a great guy. His caddies, his caddy was on the karaoke singing and it was great. Shout out to Gary Woodland. It wasn't his caddy, there was some other caddy in there that was singing up a storm,

but it was great. No, honestly, I thought the voice held up here for the most part. Yeah, great. I quit and turned around. No sneezing, no sneezing. Well, we have to... I want to apologize to our listeners and our viewers. Play it for them.

This is JP, our board op. It's unforgivable. Go ahead and play it, JP. Your mistake. Well, kind of interesting. He moved McKinnon to the wings and writing and and you know it's playing in the the act was like a half sneeze

and uh... obviously that was me and if you listen to my question i was fighting it because i think that you have the off-putton yeah i i guess i didn't touch it i didn't put it down completely was ninety percent down well-kinded singing of interesting thing he moved McKinnon to the wings, right? And you know, it's playing him. Because it was a massive sneeze. So it actually did muffle a lot of the sneeze.

But the previous question, I was trying to get to the finish line and I thought I was going to basically pass out. One of my biggest fears, like a big trade deadline or like a leaf kind of heavy segment talking about personnel or something and you sneeze because I could sneeze and snot could be flying everywhere and it'll be all over the desk. Oh yeah. Make it uncomfortable for everybody and then throws everyone off. Like you've got to go to commercial immediately somehow.

Immediately. There's nothing and people when they sneeze some of them like some yell so I got a loud obnoxious sneeze That probably would surprise anyone, but I could also go on a sneezing fit and sneeze 12 times in a row That is equally as concerning. Yes, like the one sneeze you can handle if the guy if it's a serial sneezing You're like dude. We're trying to work here Like stop it. Well, kind of, it's like he moved McKinnon to the wings, right? And playing him. Fought through it, though.

Fought through it. It's EJ's and professional. I forgot to tell you, my buddy, he said, tell Hayes and O-Dog, your man, made 8K on D-Tree. Oh, he had a future on D tree to win the tournament. 200 play at 40 to 1 after first round. Wow that's a big man those are huge odds 40 to 1 even after the first round because obviously he shot low and the books were still like there's no way this guy was going to win. Everybody thought this guy was going to puke it away.

I thought he'd fail. Like full disclosure we all did oh you and I were texting we're like Scheffler probably wins this thing or Thomas or Spieth. It's too bad because the tour, you can't catch a win. It's a big fun tournament and Thomas Detry runs away with it. You needed Spieth and Thomas and Scheffler and somebody, I don't know, that's what they're looking for anyway. You can't control it.

It's a good sport. These guys are playing good Go there a lot of Scotty Scheffler got outplayed by a Monday qualifier yesterday Yeah, Monday qualifier played better than Scotty Scheffler. That's right sport. It was pretty cool. I was I will say this My understanding, you know in past years. It's been goons and you know a circus They tighten their tight year. A lot tighter but it felt like the Kentucky Derby. Like everyone was dressed up, like it was like a, it's a scene there.

It's a party man. Yeah it's a real party. And the money, like those boxes apparently with like two, they have like 200 boxes in that, on 16, they go for like 200 grand each. It's insane the money big cash man that's big big crazy crazy it's such a big tournament for that and like yeah you look at what the RBC Canadian Open does like they're trying

to mix the two right like they're trying to be a party but it's an open it's a tournament but a lot of a lot of tournaments are taking from what waste management is established. Create a hole in particular that draws a lot of people in, that can create viral moments. That rink hole does get a lot of street cred. I was listening to Aaron Oberholz, we were talking today, and he brought it up. It gets street cred amongst people on the tour. Big time.

It's a brilliant idea. It is. The rink hole is something, Rory McIlroy mentioned it when he was talking about coming up. He's like, yeah, I'll be there and they got the rink hole and it's awesome. Like it's a big signature moment and that'd be great to see a hole-in-one there, right? It'd be great to see a hole-in-one at some point at the rink hole. You talk about people going crazy and viral moments. Shorten it up then. Shorten the hole up a little bit. Every time I played the rink hole or seen it, been around it, it's like 178, 191. Make it 145 yards. Just for one

day. Yeah. One day. Saturday. Saturday, make it a 140 yard little pitch and putt and let guys throw darts at it. They're still going to have teeth and guys are going to make mistakes but I agree. I love to see that happen. But the tour I'm sure runs a lot of that as well like what the yardages should be what the greens set up like All right something to chew on still to come our best bets coming up as well overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN to all right something to chew on brought to you by Boston Pizza Canada's favorite sports bar enjoy $15 lunch at BP where you get an entree, a side and a drink and you'll get it all in 20 minutes or less. So fast lunch doesn't have to be fast food. See you for a $15 fast lunch at your local Boston Pizza. We've been asking people

online on Twitter and on Instagram, what is dominating the Super Bowl group chat? What was dominating last night? I'm a little bit surprised i gotta be honest i guess you know this speaks to anecdotal evidence me and my buddies us uh... but we've been asking people eagles dominance kendrick lamar's halftime show or the brady mahomes goat debate and eagles dominance is dominating on twitter and on instagram i'm not surprised at that everyone i talked to today everyone agree that that

was a beat down that they've never seen before yeah like they the idea behind any sporting event is to try to expose something to give yourself an advantage and i don't know i'm not my part c which by the way part c i love you and thanks for everything this year he knows what Part C, which by the way, Part C, I love you and thanks for everything this year.

He knows what to expect, the X's and O's of what the Eagles picked out and said, we're going to expose that and we're going to crush them. And I don't know if it was Dan Patrick that said that the response, it was like, did they even make an attempt to respond to anything? Because it was no different, if not worse in the second half. Yeah, it is amazing that Andy Reid company. Dude, that was an ass-beating man. They were trying to kill Mahomes and they got to him every time.

Every time. And there was some confusion at times on the sideline where Andy Reid looked like he had no idea what was going on. Dude, he had Randy, I thought it was Randy Carlisle, Scrabble face. Yeah, which is wild because he's Andy Reid and he says one a ton and he's always in control and Yeah, I guess you know what this also tells me is that people were looking for something different and you know that gets back to our Conversations about me wanting the bills to get there or the Lions or whatever

It's you know the Chiefs you either love the dynasty or you hate the dynasty, and it's incredibly compelling. And again, I'm a bit surprised by the results because I would have leaned Brady, Mahomes, all that because it takes up so much oxygen and seeing Mahomes play like that and get beat like that to me was just fascinating. I couldn't believe it. I never expected that to happen. And it seemed like the crowd haze.

It was a big time pro pro eagles crowd is a lot of the point yesterday try supporting your team through three c like for all the fans that were like we're going to the super bowl we're getting tickets doing that for a third year in a row probably not happenin now you're not you just can't do it and you're not going to every single one

you know so he wasgo's fan showed up. I will say Kendrick Lamar, like that made a lot of noise. It was people either loved it or hated it. There was no in between. There was no in between. You're right about that. No one was like, nah, it was alright. I'll check that out.

Yeah, like it was like, God, I hated that or God, he killed it. You know, like I just... I had my only takeaway from it. I'm not gonna be some Old white guy that was like I didn't like it because there was deeper meaning to it where his fans knew what was going on I just felt old because I was trying to decipher what what it was all about. I was like, yeah I don't know these songs I don't know what he's up to and there's Serena Williams and I don't know the lady that just wielded in their to to sing with them

and i like that i'm not a very very clear that we're all completely out of touch with what's going on but and that was true and i had the same experience of like i don't really know what's going on here and and it's also it's tough like this is his his style is very consistent and it it's fast and it's... Wordy.

Yeah, and it was kind of like... It was difficult to follow, and that's the truth. It's the same way whenever you have anyone that becomes the Super Bowl halftime. There's very few people that can drag out everybody. It's very difficult to be so big and so popular where it meets the masses' expectations. But if you're gonna get to a specific artist or band that is not mainstream necessarily

or a quote unquote pop star from the last 20 years, that's what you're gonna get. People that love them, love it. People that, it's not even about hating them, it's just like if you're not a fan, you're like I get. People that love them, love it. People that, it's not even about hating them. It's just like if you're not a fan, you're like, I don't know any of the songs. So I don't even know what I'm following here. Who would you get to counter next year to kind of bring everybody back on board?

Within I got to be reasonable. I'm talking like a Bon Jovi where everybody. But that's out of touch too though. I didn't say Bon Jovi. I said a Bon Jovi type. Out of touch with younger people. I agree. But that's where you can't win because you get Kendrick Lamar, who's not young.

Kendrick Lamar's been out for 15 years. You know who I got. I got McCartney, dude. He was awesome. You can't even talk about out of touch. I know that and I get it. I get that that would have been out of touch at that point. You can't, what you got, you cannot aim for the 20 year old and you can't aim for the

70 year old. You know, so the answer is who is 40, 45 years old, you know, that's going to get it. I think you toss Phil Collins out there and let him rip. Phil Collins is the answer dude, come on. I can feel it in the air tonight. It's a slam dunk and a no-brainer. You know what's happened though with some of these bands? They've had a resurgence.

Blink 182 is all of a sudden popular again. They had a resurgence because their songs are played in stadiums and stuff like that in sporting events. I could see something like that. I don't know if that... I'm not saying that particular band, but I could see it being a resurgence band that was very popular in the past and is popular. Resurgence band at the Super Bowl is a tough pick, man. If it doesn't fly.

Okay, so, I mean, Beyonce was on there. How many pink there's been? Lady Gaga. Coldplay. Coldplay. Coldplay would be a prime example of a resurgence fan, would it not? Guess so, but they were pretty massively popular in selling out stadiums and stuff. I don't know. Right, but what, 10, 15 years ago?

Yeah, I guess so. That's my saying. Resurgence is the wrong word. They've always been popular, but they may have not put out new material Exactly, they don't tour anymore right, but that's the thing So play was a massively huge pop band so you're looking at you to the stones people like that works like okay Oh now I know what a go to Spears cleaner act up and wheeled out there and put on a set. Britney Spears? I think if she cleaned it up.

I'm glad you brought that up though because I think that is what, that's how I would approach it is what works in Vegas, that's what I would bring to the Super Bowl halftime show. Who can sell out night after night on the Vegas strip? That's someone with mass appeal. That's someone where people roll through town and are like, wow, Adele is playing, I got to go see that. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Or whatever it is. And like U2, Open the Sphere. Yes. U2 is a band that everyone knows. You like it or you don't, but you're like, I know that song. And let's see what they do. That's an interesting background. Here's a cameo from Phil Collins coming out and doing a you know, that's where that's where super bad

No, didn't what was it? It wasn't that long ago wasn't it? Dr. Dre and and I was a phenomenal show I was an unbelievable I was in LA at so far it was and that's showing my age You know like I loved hip-hop back in the day and that was my thing was dr Dre and snoop and 50 cent and You know that that kind of stuff modern Hip hop and rap is not my thing. So i'm never I'm just not going to be able to know what's going on. I got one for you. I got one for you This might hit all the red hot chili peppers. It's gorgeous. Set me it

Everybody loves the chili peppers. I don't know. They all their it like they came out the eighties i had some wild nineties eighties or nineties early nineties i guess early nineties but people know their songs that you know their songs that they are their abandons been around forever that people are familiar with that's for sure i don't know your offers it comes back to brian you were right it's never you're never gonna. Everyone's got a different day everybody music. That's the truth That's the whole thing like you're gonna. That's and especially that's why I like the the pop singer or pop Show is gonna be more is gonna land more often then you know like I said off the top rap

Country heavy metal like the fans of those Those artists people are gonna it like this is amazing you know this is so cool while this is amazing but people that aren't into it are really not into it like i can i don't want to list like morgan wall and the hugely popular guy right now yeah and if you're in the con country your more than likely love morgan wall i guarantee you have the country

can't stand the guy. Or country music period. Period. And would hear him and be like this is awful, every song sounds the same. It would be the same reaction. It would be like I don't want this, who is this guy, what is he doing, what is he talking about? So you need something in the middle. Pearl Jam. You need a pop star in the middle. Pearl Jam. I don't know man. I'm getting suggestions from all my buddies here. Post Malone might middle you need a pearl jam i'm getting suggestions from all my buddies here

pearls and i don't mind your one also i want to read i could turn back the clock and i could just read the john bond joe v super bowl half-time there is a lot of nightly why he's got a rare right now you see a salad right now don't talk to me about gray hair. I had McCartney. Do I need to put out a hashtag? So exactly.

You should learn from that and realize that Bon Jovi's not the guy. I'm going to go through YouTube clips of McCartney and Jacksonville, because I remember being so pissed when he wheeled out there in a piano. Listen, I understand what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Hi.

Oh, I got it for you. My wife has come in, and she's hit a grand slam Grandslam walk-off ed Sheeran oh yeah, everybody here is ed sheeran everyone knows ed sheeran. Yeah, everyone loves Hayes from the top turnbuckle Walk-off he's a multi-talented guy. Like he sets up, you know, that, that shiver song. He does the whole thing. Different people, right? Other people, Hey, here comes this person. There comes that. And then all of a sudden you got like different there. That's your

answer right there. There it is. If they don't make it happen, they're crazy. Ed Sheeran's your guy next year and have him bring out the camp. Cause you know what people love is they do love when a surprise so, you know someone comes out It's like oh, I can't believe they're out there with them, you know, remind me where it is next year Where's the Super Bowl are they back in LA next year or send in Miami? Maybe next year But so you bring out somebody from San Fran. It's in San Fran So you like you have Ed Sheeran and then you bring out some some other Ed Sheeran and friends people from the Bay Area There you go. Exactly. Okay. What's gordon miller's buddy here that gave him the nod from from Toronto here

Shawn man You bring him out with with Ed Sheeran there's lots of lots of people I think It would be interesting though. Maybe Taylor Swift would what she's never gonna do it man She's too big for the Super Bowl like in reality. She's too big for yeah, you're right You know if she's just maybe she do it in 15 years like if she kind of fades away and doesn't do anything for a while Maybe but we'll see. All right. you go there you go. Those are good. Very good stuff I think we accomplished exactly what the NFL has to do here. I met a guy named Chase Rice last night. Okay. Country singer really good looking

guy like I didn't know he was like a big star he was on karaoke last night too. He was singing karaoke as a country star. Got up and sang. No way. Was he singing his own songs? No, no, he was singing others. Come on, dude. People don't do that, man. That was a rookie question. How often does the guy karaoke, period?

If you're a country, like a rock star, how often do you think David Lee Roth was like, give me the mic. That's just a part of the gig. Rock star karaoke. You're not singing the wrong stuff. David Lee Roth was like give me the best part of the gig rock star David Lee Roth's doing jump or would that be great? Your buckle that some party like I think that's David All right best bet still to come overdrive. TSN 1050 in on TSN too. Oh yeah, this thing is going to pop, man.

Ed Sheeran at the halftime show. Sam Friend next year. We get credit if it happens, right? What about Philly Collins wheeling in for like a duo, man? Philly Collins in the air tonight with Ed Sheeran. What a mashup. You're so committed to Phil Collins. In the air tonight with Ed Sheeran. What a mashup. You're so committed to Phil Collins in the air tonight. Exclusively in the air tonight with Ed Sheeran. That would be great.

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