OverDrive - OverDrive - February 12, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

Join Aaron Korolnek, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! Stanley Cup Champion and Philadelphia Flyers Advisor to Hockey Operations Patrick Sharp joins to discuss his international best-on-best experience, winning a gold medal and the 4 Nations Face-Off tournament. They also discuss Travis Kelce's potential retirement from the NFL and go around the sports world in the latest edition of OverDrive Arbitration.

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join us in about five minutes. Are you guys nostalgic about great Canadian sporting moments? Like, would you ever go back and watch the Golden Goal or anything like that? Jose Batista's bat flip? Because this morning, getting ready for today's show, I was looking at some great Canadian hockey moments, whether it be the World Juniors or the Olympics. How do you do that? Do you just go on YouTube and Google like great? A lot of people do that, man, whether it's like golf rounds, goalie saves. Golf rounds, yes. That's something I do a little bit more than the Canadian ones. There's a rabbit hole available on YouTube that is extraordinary for sporting stuff that you like

Anything you want man. It's there. Well. I do have a question though aka. You said the bat flip like was that Iconic oh the bat flip was very icon now the golden go I win yes, but you're right, but at the moment I think it's that's a where were you moment. So was the golden goal? I remember exactly where I was for the golden goal i was in fourth year university up in london the party we had after that night home i couldn't expect that the streets were completely jammed as if the raptors won the nba title back in three hundred and i have a university

after all the cross be scored absolutely do you think on that subject let's say Canada beats the Americans Saturday night does anybody take to the streets to celebrate I don't know where where is that sad is it in Montreal it is in Montreal yeah okay I mean you mean this Saturday or next Saturday when the finals happen the final on Thursday yeah but let's say well Saturday Canada plays the Americans and they play Finland on Monday at one o'clock and the final goes on Thursday. I don't know, Canada, the USA, people down on King Street West will be liquored up watching the game pouring out on the streets.

I don't think so, man. I don't think it'll have the pouring out on the streets effect. I guess as knowledgeable as Canadian fans are, I do think they understand that this is some sort of exhibition. It's not the Olympics. It's not a World Cup. Dude, I don't even know if people would pour out in the streets for a World Cup victory. You were in Toronto when Marchand scored that goal in that World Cup hockey thing. I don't think people poured out in the streets.

Yeah, I can bear that. That was in Toronto too, right? That was Canada's center. Yeah, it was. This is different. Montreal tonight Montreal tonight Boston that's an interesting question I guess a lot of it depends on the investment of people into this tournament which I think when it rolls around when Saturday night rolls around I think tonight yes it's the Swedes maybe the rivalry of course is not as

great the importance of the game is basically the same when it comes to winning the tournament but Saturday man I think it's going to be something special, like something very special in Montreal. And I think there's going to be some buildup and some buzz in Montreal. And you also, I mean, they'll pour out onto the streets because Montreal celebrates their team and their country well. And you know, there'll be a bunch of booze bags out there acting up. Regardless, to know, regardless.

To me, I feel like I just don't know what to translate. I don't know if in Edmonton, maybe if McDavid scores it or but in Calgary, they're running down 17th Street, you know, like they did the Red Mile in 2004. I just don't know if they it would reach in Vancouver, would they be fired up, you know, on Robson or something? I don't know, AK. I don't think it would be. Well, remember in 2010, it was in Vancouver would they be fired up you know on Robson or something I don't know AK I don't think it would be well remember in 2010 it was in Vancouver I think there was an added sense of patriotism simply because the Olympics were in Canada if you remember in 2014 Patrick Sharpe's gonna join us

in just a second played for Canada one goal that was those games were played at like 6 a.m. they were very early I remember getting up I was living in my parents house and Like going downstairs and you know seeing Kerry Price shout out whoever Sweden or the Americans That wasn't the most exciting term and so because that Canadian team was so utterly dominant They did not trail the entire tournament. That's what we're talking about in 2014 I don't think there was ever any concern that Canada would lose and I think 11 years later now it's not the same thing. I think in part because of the questions surrounding the goaltending but I think in part because the other countries around the world have absolutely caught up and we're not even seeing Russia in this

tournament. We're not seeing Dreisaitl play orid pastor act play for check yes so the olympics next year i think will ratcheted up even further i agree i think it's going to be uh... i think people are going to be very excited i mean i i can't wait to hear what patrick sharp has to say about it as far as energy level of people excited about well let's bring them in the special advisor to hockey operations for the philadelphia fliers three times stanley cup champion olymp Olympic gold medalist one of the best-looking hockey players in NHL history according to our Twitter where people are

who's this stud coming on the show it is Patrick Sharp here on overdrive mr. sharp how are you Wow thank you guys what an introduction especially a part of it there thank you for that host is a compulsive liar Sharpie I know I know I thought he was talking about you for a second arrow dog. I do Sharpie I want to ask you some about these tournaments when the coach comes in like everybody's got to get together quickly and Kind of have it together out there. What does the coach say about like systems or is it just like don't be don't make it look stupid out there

or is it pretty detailed stuff for a bunch of guys that have never been together? I think it's detailed I suppose. Hockey Canada they like the the orientation camp in the offseason leading up to two years with events like this. We definitely had one in 2010 and 2014 as well. And that's a lot of, you know, taking pictures, hearing the details of the upcoming tournament, getting down to systems on how Canada wants to play. And it's really nothing like revolutionary as far as team systems. And it's really nothing like revolutionary as far as team systems. Every group in the league is similar to the most, I guess to the same extent, but a couple

tweaks here and there, but for the most part, it just happens fast. You can prepare all you want in the off season, but much like this event that's starting up tonight, it just comes quick. You're playing a lot of games with your club team leading up to the event Three or four a week with a lot of travel and all of a sudden you take a long flight and you're surrounded with some of the Greatest players, you know definitely in the league and playing for Team Canada man There's some legends in the locker room the year that I got to play But all of a sudden you're in a meeting with the coach and you're playing against Norway or Austria

Whoever that first game was against and it just happens fast. So I think the biggest thing I would advise the players on tonight is to play fast and trust your instincts because at the end of the day it's going to be a lot of great players on the ice playing the game that they've always played. So how do you control your emotions leading up to that? I mean you can talk about playing fast. You can talk about, you know, systematic play or just, you know, settling in. But from a butterfly anticipation situation, was it like playing deep into the playoffs, Patrick? Was it like a Stanley Cup final? Like, how did you treat it? I felt a little more nerds with Hockey Canada than I did playing in the

in the playoffs even even deep into the conference finals and the Stanley Cup finals I just felt it was everything was different there was new teammates training staff the the comparability of being with your group wasn't quite there and you can be pals and come together as quickly as you want but at the end of the day there's a ton of pressure on Canada and that's what that event felt like for me. I had watched 2010, the Blackhawks sent all kinds of players to the event in the Olympics in Vancouver and I was glued to the TV watching my teammates perform at a high level.

Kane and Taves were on entry level deals. They were 21 years old, not even at the time. And you know Keith and Seabrook played a big role as well all across. Every team had my teammates on it and I was kind of in awe of how well they were doing at that level of competition. And then four years later I had the chance to do it and it felt very different than a playoff run. You know the group that you have in the NH that you have in the NHL you build together for years. Sometimes it's that particular season, either way it's

eight or nine, ten months, but the teams that go deep tend to stay together for a long time. This hockey Canada group was just a collection of great players that was put together, sent over to Russia and said, hey, go bring back the gold medal and if you don't, you know, you're going to hear about it. i felt a lot of pressure it was hard uh... to fit in but dimension earlier at the end of the day you're playing with some pretty great player but don't try to over think it just display hockey patrick sharp our guests of course a member of the two thousand fourteen gold medal winning

team for canada you've got a couple players on the flyers the team you're with now that our members of team canada you have the chance to give them any advice course and i'm not saying i'm in connect me the upper two great players uh... profiled if you can build out uh... pk you'll surprise some people up front i think he's uh... you know well-rounded player that

you know give the flyers energy every night and he played at a high pace and he's got an engine on him. He plays in all situations for us. I can see him being on the ice in any situation for Canada as well. He's great shorthanded. He's solid on the power play. He knows how to score goals. I think he's going to settle in nicely. He seems to be well liked by all his teammates as well.

So I can see TK fitting in and getting excited here in this tournament playing really well. Sandheim on the back end is another player that when I joined the Flyers last season kind of learning the roster and going over the players he was one that that just jumped out night after night for one he can play both sides as a defenseman which is really valuable in a short tournament like this and his skating is world class. For a defenseman of his size to be able to move as quickly as he can, I think he can be an effective player as well.

So it's going to be a high pace, I think, and those two players can definitely handle it and if not push it at times. Sharpie, how was the adjustment? I mean, you were a player, whenever all these players are, when they're on their club teams, they're playing 22 minutes a night, first power play unit. What's that adjustment like for, or is going to be like for some of these guys

where it's like limited ice time and this is gonna be the McDavid and the McKinnon show and you're gonna have to take a back seat a little bit, but you also have to find a way to contribute. You can't sit on your ass and say, oh, this is their tournament to win also have to find a way to contribute. You can't sit on your ass and say, oh this is their tournament to win, you got to find a way to contribute. Oh yeah, absolutely. You can't be shrugging the shoulders and looking back at the coach wanting more power play

time when you're on the ice on the same team with some of the great players that are on this roster. No, that's the great thing about Team Canada. I always felt growing up, I got two world championships as a pro and then the one Olympics. That was my Team Canada career. But I always felt that just being on the roster was the most important thing and the tournament kind of sorts itself out from there. I look back, our captain, Jonathan, was the extra forward on the 2010 team.

And as the tournament went along, he ended up being named MVP or top forward, whatever the award was at the end. And that's kind of a theme that you see throughout a lot of these tournaments. It's the depth of the team. It doesn't usually go the way everyone thinks it's going to go as far as individual players. It's always someone that surprises you because when you look at the roster, there's great players at every position. So it is an adjustment, no doubt. All these players on Canada's roster are stars on their own club.

That's why they're wearing the Maple Leaf on their chest tonight. So I don't think egos are going to be a problem when you put the jersey on. You just figure out your role and you do the best you can. Speaking of club team, how did you find, was it difficult to separate playing for your country and then playing against a teammate, a guy you were out for dinner with maybe five nights earlier and he's playing for a different country and you've got to go in and battle him in the corner? It's not like pre-season, it's not like training camp or in practice. I mean, you're playing for keeps.

Did you have to find a way to maybe separate that type of emotion or maybe have a handshake agreement? Hey, we'll talk after the tournament. How did you approach that? Yeah, a little bit. You know, you just shake hands, we teach each other good luck before you go off the tournament. We had all kinds of guys on different teams. So it was weird seeing teammates from the club team

in the Olympics. But then as far as my, my team, Canada guys going back to the NHL, yeah, it just goes back to normal. I think leading up to it taught me off guard. I remember noodles. We were in LA one time days before the Olympic event and Drew Doughty like absolutely buried me with a hip check coming down the wall

I wasn't expecting it. I thought maybe we're gonna be teammates in a couple days. He's gonna go easy on me He just smoked me and really caught me off guard So you're playing hockey be ready for anything, but hockey players have that switch They can turn it off pretty quickly Patrick sharp our guest What do you remember remember about off-ice component of the Olympic experience? Any big nights with the team in the Olympic Village? How did that work back in 2014? Yeah, I was nothing crazy. It was very professional. We were there to do a job and we did it. And

the way that the schedule worked out, it was like games every other night. There's always something to do. So it wasn't a whole lot of downtime once we got to Russia. But I don't want to say disappointed because it was the experience that we had. But watching how the city, the country, the province of British Columbia handled themselves when they hosted the Olympics in 2010, It was just Canadian, you know, culture everywhere. It was a party. It was a festival. It was just such a great vibe to see from the outside. And then when you compare that to four years later in Russia, it was a long way to travel. And the facility was just everything was brand new. Everything was just cement buildings. There was very little music, there was little culture, it

was just like a bunch of great athletes over there to do a job. And the time zone probably messed with some people back in Canada and North America a little bit as well. But I wasn't disappointed because I had a great experience and it was great to be with Team Canada. But definitely wish I would have been at the one four years earlier and had some great times in Vancouver. Sharpie, how greasy, like you mentioned, you got teammates on your club teams that are playing on different teams in these types of tournaments. How greasy, you ever hear a greasy comment from a teammate where you're like, if you

chop that guy in the arm early, he'll disappear? Like you ever hear anyone say anything like that about their own teammate or was that like stuff you just can't go down that road like take away Keener's time and space on the power play don't let them or just yeah anything cross-check him early he'll disappear anything like that yeah no that we had a pretty good team there. Our club team was winning a lot of playoff rounds and going deep, so we kept our secrets as tight as we could. But you definitely learn a lot at those events, guys.

No doubt. Sitting with some great players and watching them, you just pick up so much. We played Latvia one time, and I don't think we were ever in trouble. We were dominating the game. We had the puck all night. We were generating a ton of shots, but they scored a goal early on in the game. And it was off kind of a trick play, if you guys remember. I know it was a long time ago now, but basically it was a neutral zone face off close to the Latvia bench. They won the draw, went D to D,

and then the board side D just snuck into the bench. And then the benches were so long that a forward popped out basically in a breakaway situation. He went down and scored and kind of caught us all off guard. But I bring that up because watching the NHL, you know, the following week, once it started up again, Pittsburgh was playing and Crosby was on the ice and they tried that exact same place. So he definitely picked up some tricks of the trade, being around some great players and I definitely learned a lot by playing with Team Canada. So being in the midst of this four nations face-off break here Patrick, you're the special

advisor to Hockey Operations for the Flyers. I'm sure you keep in close contact with Danny Briere who runs the operation there in Philadelphia. What is it like with regards to transactions, talking about trades, all the stuff NHL wise while this break is going on yeah I'm more focused right now on our American League team NHL group is kind of taking a break throughout the the four nations the players are all enjoying their time off or they're competing in the tournament I'm I had my eyes on the bean pot up here in close to Boston on Monday and I'll be heading to Allentown, Pennsylvania

to work with our American League group in the High Valley Phantom. So there's lots to do and lots to learn when you're in the role that I'm in right now. It's fun to be in that role, really enjoying it. So I know the game has changed. Everybody's nutrition and guys are a lot more dedicated to their craft. But you know, were there guys that you played with that maybe enjoyed their breaks a little bit too much where you felt like, okay, this guy put on a 12 pack in the 10 days that he was gone.

Like I know I played with a few guys. I know we were talking about it yesterday. There was always one or two guys that you knew that they didn't go anywhere near the gym in the the Olympic break or the All-Star break yeah no doubt that happens all the time and it's usually the the same guys run themselves into trouble with the long breaks it becomes a pattern that's for sure and I know we had a great defense group with the club team in Chicago. Keith and Seabrook were two of the best. And two very different body types and lifestyles on days off, let's put it that way.

Dunks was constantly looking for an edge, training hard, taking great care of himself. Seabes was a great athlete himself, but I remember one break we had, he enjoyed himself a little bit too much and Dunks was really putting the work in. But as soon as the game started up, I think he'd set a three point night that first game back and Dunks was minus two or three. So you never quite know what you're going to expect. The break is good for everybody. I'd say it's more of a mental break than anything just to get ready for that playoff push in

the end of the season coming up. Well, Canada, Sweden tonight. I know you'll be tuned in as will we we can't thank enough for taking the time Patrick enjoy the time off if you want to call it that and best of luck the second half of the season for the Flyers. Awesome, all right guys thanks for having me on I appreciate it. Patrick Sharpe of the Flyers three-time Cup champ Olympic gold medalist joined us on the Maple Toyota hotline count on Maple Toyota for your the right winter tire Package for your Toyota trade in your old tires buy a new set get forty dollars back visit Maple Toyota

Dot-com could probably use some fresh tires tonight on the road It's the only one on the road honestly you yeah for the people that go on the road when it's a little bit snowy, don't act like you're from North Carolina or Florida. Just stay home and you don't want to be going zero, 10 miles an hour. Just stay home because you're dangerous. You're dangerous. You're like the blue hairs in Florida. You're dangerous. Just be mindful on the road. Exactly. Like that's the one thing you're always, I'm terrified sometimes, and I've got a pretty decent car in the snow, and you'll just see a Ford Focus driving 140 in the left lane beside you.

There's always one, man. You know, tires are bald, fish tailing, and they're just gone. And that's exactly it. It's not so much about your own car. It's about the lunatics who are on the road who don't have the proper tires or just completely aloof at the wheel on the phone or doing whatever and that's my concern driving in the snow it's floor i lived in florida noodle so did you yeah i had a stoplight in front of my house and every time i stopped there going to the

golf course an elderly person just ran right through the red light and it was just like it was frogger out there It was the craziest thing I'd ever seen man. Just be careful out there peeps Yeah, you're not comfortable driving in the snow stay home Yeah, that's very good advice very good advice on a snowy evening like tonight 15 to 25 centimeters expected over the course of This Wednesday evening. It's a perfect opportunity just to stay home and watch hockey. Watch the Raps game.

They play Cleveland tonight. It's on TSN, the 25 year dunk-a-versary for Vince Carter's being celebrated. Paul Jones is coming up at 6.30. Dreggs will be in studio in about 40 minutes as well. We have overdrive arbitration still to come here in hour two of the show. Kirolnik, McClennan, O'Neil here on TSN4 and TSN1050.

Hour two of overdrive continues here on TSN4 up on TSN1050 as well. Kirolnik in for Hayes, Noodles is here, the O-Dog is here. Darren Dreger will be here in studio at 6 o'clock. So the Philadelphia Eagles will be celebrating the Super Bowl victory at a parade on Friday. Meanwhile, the Kansas City Chiefs still picking up the pieces from everything that went awry on Sunday in New Orleans. And the first Kelsey Brothers podcast, New Heights, was released this morning. And Travis was speaking about his future in the NFL. I thought it was very, very interesting to hear the way he spoke about his outlook going forward.

Why don't we take a listen to a little bit of it? I know everybody wants to know whether or not I'm playing next year and right now I'm just kicking everything down the road. I'm kicking every can I can down the road and I'm not making any crazy decisions but right now the biggest thing is just being there for my teammates and being there for my coaches, understanding, you know, that there's a lot that goes into this thing.

You know, I've been fortunate over the past five, six years, I've played more football than anybody. Yeah. And it's because the people that are in that building and the fact that we keep going to these AFC championships and these Super Bowls and that means I'm playing an extra three games more than everybody else in the entire league. And that's a lot of wear and tear on your body. And it's a lot of time spent in the building, focusing on your crafts, focusing on the task at hand, every challenge that you set up for yourself. And that process can be grueling,

it can weigh on you, it can make you better and it can drive you crazy at the same time. And right now it's one of those things where it was kind of driving me crazy this year. I think that it happens as you kind of tail off towards the back nine of your career. My takeaway from that is that's game over. Like I know that he can. Absolutely. He could take a week and be like, God, I love football and I'm fired up and I'm gonna go to the gym but I've been in that headspace where that guy is and I think when he's talking like

It seemed like being at the building doing football things was for the first time in his life He felt like it was a job and I think that that's probably when it's game over for him. And talk, like he just continued to harp on the grueling. And it was like you didn't hear one thing about enjoyment. And I understand losing does that to you. But listening to that, my guess would be that's Curtin's on his career. He could come back in a week and say, I'm playing, I'm fired up, I'm going to play five more years.

But if we're going to isolate that alone, I would say that's game over It sounded like curtains to me as well, but I thought there's one it's too fresh I want to hear him speak a month from now and I also here's the other thing too Well, Jamie the kicker for me was when was when he started describing how he was feeling all year. Yeah. Not just today, but he's like all year it was like a chore. And I'm like, that's pretty much game over because I've been in that head space.

Also there is a scenario too. His life has changed. He's under a giant microscope now. He goes out for dinner with his girlfriend. It's a big like he's he's under a giant microscope now every he goes out for dinner with his girlfriend It's a story like he's to me his life has changed You know, it's private not that he wasn't flying private before but it's her jet. It's she's a billionaire to me There's so much more going on with his life that maybe football isn't number one I predict though the one thing quickly oh and and a k

he might do the grunk he might take four months off five months off and then show up halfway through the season you should do that but it life for him could be different to because regardless of regardless of a standing as a tight end in the national football league with the championships in the receptions and some people holding him in the highest regard as a tight end in the National Football League with the championships and the receptions and some people holding him in the highest regard as a tight end in the NFL. You retire man, you become Mr. Swift pretty quickly.

I've seen that happen to people where they become, they're like a famous athlete and people start calling, the kicker is and why they move on from the relationship is, is because people started calling them Mr. Swift on the way into events and that drives them crazy man. Yeah. So you go from Travis Kelsey the tight end one of the greatest tight ends that ever played the game you morph into Mr. Swift in a hurry if he doesn't play football. I think you're right.

I think you're right. Not that fun man. He is in a unique situation in that he's absurdly wealthy He's done so well in his career his podcast They paid him hundred million dollars over three years to do that podcast that he's an incredible financial condition He's dating the most famous person in the world at the moment Perhaps aside from the president United States and he's not that far behind I mean as far as famous people on our planet at the moment Travis Kelce he's pretty high up there and is very little

to do a hundred each for that 100 in total so I guess 50 yeah yeah and I know it's good business very good business for new heights so I don't think he's too concerned about anything man and just think about the wear and tear and you're seeing it too in his play as well his yards per reception the last three years Has gone from 12.2 to 10.6 to 8.5 his game is his game is is not Which is which happens to everybody except like you know the whole vetchkin and Crosby's and LeBron's and I would love to also See the bidding war with the TV now all claim their piss broke And they don't have any money to pay anyone. If that guy became available, he'd be making $50 million

a year. Well, his brothers raking in at ESPN. I'm sure they'd love to pair the two together. Oh, yeah. He's everywhere. I was at a restaurant watching a football game and every commercial was Jason Kelsey. Every commercial, it was like laundry, everything. it was like laundry did everything it was Jay. It was like Jason Kelsey was the only commercial I'm like that guy must be making more money than when he played away more not even close He is raking it in and those guys they're very likable. I think it's a credit to them their character is their regular Yes, that's why they're so successful people just want to hear them shoot the breeze. Yes, they're like the Manning brothers That's really what they are and they've got the big personalities

The only thing like Jason Kelsey for me is more recognizable more visible in the media than he was as a player Because his position was not a sexy position. No, you're saying centers aren't sexy Jamie. Well, everybody's is Jamie We don't there's no helmets. There's just your face is on TV You know what every single day who is the most famous center that you guys can think of right now? That's a very good question right like I'm just saying like you know over the history of time in the last 30 years who's the most famous not a bunch of guys popping up They're just guys that snap the ball and they get run over and they're, those guys are unique people. Jason Kelsey is, he's like you said, he's everywhere. He's a beauty. It sounds like he's a beauty. He loves to party and enjoy himself, but he's,

you know, now he's visible. Now you know what he looks like. I couldn't tell you what any center man looks like in couldn't tell you what any settlement looks like now in the national football i let's get to some over over drive arbitrate arbitration we ready fell as yes yes let's do it now is that going to be a problem yes any problems the problem for them it's outrageous overdrive arbitration one of these are empty

the case your face he's not here You think I got a case? Your face is my case. All right, let's stick with the Kansas City Chiefs theme here on overdrive arbitration. Oh, dog, you are Patrick Mahomes of the Chiefs. You're awarded one more Super Bowl victory for the rest of your NFL career. Are you taking it? I am going to take it, and it's recency bias. We talked about Travis Kelsey with recency bias the way he's feeling right now

The way that my homes got manhandled and I know that not every team could put together a roster that will do that Patrick Mahomes But just watching that I always go extreme in my thoughts I'm like, maybe that's it for him when in the Super Bowl Like that's how extreme my thoughts go when I see him just get pumped like that. I thought he played terrible and I looked and I'm like maybe that's game over for this run from the Chiefs. So he absolutely takes it. Everybody was so caught up in this fantasy world of him getting more Super Bowl wins than Tom

Brady and him being the GOAT. And like said, he could rip off the next two, and then you're like, what were you talking about? But as for right now, I think he'd sign off on just one more. Totally with you. Totally with you. It's all about the AFC as a whole. You have to go through Lamar and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow

every year. Like, if you get one more, that's awesome. That should be an incredible thing. Although, mind you, AK, it's not those guys that cause in the ultimate problem like he does mull through those guys every year for the most part borough got him one time brady got another time i don't know i'd just i'd be out of a guys i think there's probably a good chance he gets at least maybe one more in his

career is only what twenty seven twenty nine twenty nine sorry twenty So he's got, let's call it 8 to 10 years. He's probably going to get one more. So would you take your chance to get two or three? That's the way I'd look at it. Yes, you sign off on it, but wouldn't you bet on yourself? That's what these amazing athletes do. They bet on themselves all the time? So for me, I think he's saying no chance because I believe I'm gonna get more so that's why it's a no-buoy no for me All right moving on noodles. You are Jordan Binnington team Canada's starter in the four nations face-off You're awarded a goals against average of two point seven five for the duration of the tournament. Do you accept? Two seven five. Yes, because I think my team can can get three so if you that's an on an average that's you know you're under three and I think that team is capable of scoring

three or more now the scary part is you've got low low the first two games you're at hey allowed to we won six two six two and then the average out hey you allow five or six in a game where you we only needed you to allow two two seven five is a bit high but I'm on the average I'm taking it because I would bet that team Canada can score three very interesting and I think you're right I mean Canada should be able to score three but look at that Swedish defense tonight that they have to go up against. Literally with studs. Philip Gustafsson is a very talented goalie. He's in that for Sweden the Americans. Same thing really on the back end and in goal with Hellebuck who's a literal monster. I think you do take it

though and I think you know. Are they not planning on starting All-Mark, Jamie? Great question. Why did they go with Gustafsson over All-Mark? Well the one obvious reason AK is because he's played half a game in the last 40, 40. That is true. He played two games last week. You're right. But he played Tuesday, Saturday. I think they just, you know, Gustafson has been healthy. And you're right, they might have looked at it and said you have played two games in the last 55 days, I believe it was. Or close to it. So you look at it, that's two games in two months.

I think you go with the guy who's been playing regularly and played pretty darn well. I mean, Gustafsson's really come into his own as a goaltender, but I was a bit shocked that Olmark was getting the nod. I mean, if Markstrom was healthy, he's the guy. So it's really a choice between the other two. Maybe Stevie Stale's phoned the Swedish Hockey Federation and said, if you put my guy in that, I'll be the ultimate warrior coming up to the press box,

running into the ring, and I'll go absolutely crazy on you guys. You never know what happens. That's true. I do think for goaltenders in this tournament and Binnington and Gustafson Hellebuck I presume starts tomorrow for the for the Americans of course he will and you see Soros for the Finns you can very well just see four goalies throughout the entire tournament because you need points right off the bat and unless your

goalie stinks up the joint if Binnington were to get lit up tonight yes I think they would go to Aiden Hill or Montembeau but... That's what you don't, that's the only thing you don't want to do. Jamie played the position and you know how, he knows how important the position is. The last thing you ever want to do is have a team that's so jacked up to play together, everybody's dialed in and you stink the joint out and people are starting to talk about your chances of succeeding because of your performance man that's nightmare fuel the nightmare fuel

i'd i'd be concerned about it but i do think maybe that's a mini jerry's we can do later or something are we gonna see a c four gold to have his one for each organization or sort for each country are we gonna see five or six over the tournament? It is interesting if you think all mark probably gets in let's do the over under on on 4.5 goalies how many do you think we're going to see during the four

nations? I'm taking the over yeah maybe maybe 5.5 or even 6 point no probably 5.5 is the number 5.5 is the number that yeah that AK you're a degenerate and so is Hayes you both gamble and you know, right? You're right. I don't disagree you you would be taking the 5.5 number and I think you'd probably hammer the over I think so I think you're gonna see Hill and you're gonna see all mark at some point and maybe the Finnish guy that No, I don't like that talk. I do not like that talk. No, I can't one I don't like it. I am sitting on a bunch of Binnington 60-1 to win tournament MVP. So let's hope that comes up. Could maybe buy a new car if that were to hit.

Unlikely, but you never know. Max Scherzer, speaking of buying new cars, maybe he did just that with his $15.5 million from the Toronto Blue Jays. Pictures and catchers report tomorrow down in Dunedin for Toronto. If I am Max Scherzer and I was awarded a guarantee of 18 starts in 2025, would I take it or leave it? I would absolutely take it if I was Max Scherzer at age. 18 starts, that's it?

Yes, I would absolutely take it. I think you need to look at Max Scherzer as a guy who. Just tell me this before you get into your answer. Yeah. What is the... I'm not talking about wins. I'm talking about average starts for a guy in the rotation who's a heavy hitter like Scherzer. So what would the average be? And I guess I'm not including the playoffs, but I mean, Scherzer's probably the fifth starter for the Js. You have Barrios and Bassett and Gosman and Barton Francis. How many times does he go out there? 20 or 30?

I think if they ran through it, the five-man rotation, probably 31 times. That would be an idea. But he's 41 years old. You cannot possibly expect that. So you think sometimes they're going to go to him and say, listen old man, you're not going out there today? Well, like, the LA Dodgers are expected to run out a six-man rotation for the entire season with Sasaki. Well, dude, one guy's Kershaw. And one guy's Kershaw and one guy's Kershaw one guy's Otani right they have they're they very measured approach when it comes to their rotation they don't

want these guys racking up out of this is what Kershaw is gonna do this year if Dave Roberts needs him to throw a curveball for one last strike in a game he's gonna say Clayton can you rip one curveball off for me that's all you gotta do tonight I can't see him doing much more than that. I'm with ya. And I think Scherzer's in a very similar boat. This is a guy who dealt with a ton of injuries last year. Remember, he got hurt in Toronto pitching for Texas.

And you hope he comes to camp, and you hope he looks vintage. I mean, a couple years ago, the guy was a total stud. And maybe at age 41, he could conjure up some of his old magic. Speaking of which, Tiger Woods, oh dog, you're Tiger. Unfortunately had to withdraw from this week's Genesis at Torrey Pines. You're awarded to make the cut at two of the four major championships this season.

Are you taking that? Are you? Of course I'm taking that. Of course I'm taking that. This guy never plays. He's got the ass grab every time. He played all four majors last year dude I don't know what's up with that guy and God bless his family when you lose somebody like

that he might be feeling it but as far as the golf is concerned I don't think it's there anymore man I think he's a simulator golfer now him making the cut at any elevated event or anything I just don't see it happening anymore and I know our boss is a diehard I mean a diehard I our boss thinks he's gonna win the Masters this year absolutely certain of it he's certain of that's what we're talking about he thinks he's gonna win the Masters this year now he's 49 years old I years old. I don't think he's really thinking about it. Dude, he ain't making the cut and it won't be close. He's not making the cut. First of

all, he cannot walk up and down that golf course. And second of all, he's not good enough to make the cut. He's just not good enough. And I say it all the time, it's the same nonsense. On Tuesday, he tells everybody, I can win this week. And then on Friday, walking off the green, he goes, I never play, that's why I was so garbage out there. So it's like, dude, what is it? It's one or the other.

Tuesday I can win, Friday I miss the cut because I never play, what the hell did you expect out of me? It's like, can't be both, brother. Yeah, it's sad, but it's absolutely the reality. And the subject of that simulator golf, TGL, did you see last week when Tommy Fleetwood was playing and the divot registered and not the golf ball on the simulator? Well, dude, they're going to run into a problem on live television. That big giant screen is just going to go blank one night and then they're going to be standing around and i feel bad for the host that are running that

offers like it was tough enough when mark masters dropped yesterday and didn't answer the phone if that screen goes dark and there's nothing going on you got a serious problem on your hands that's going to happen at least one i think so that the tgl is not going on for that much longer right and we're looking forward to like you know the Genesis is a good term in a really good field we're what 50 something days till the Masters yeah it's and we're gonna start getting cooking like we're Florida swings not far away in a march and then then there's some pretty serious tournaments coming up

love the math and I love the fact that this weather is going away soon and we'll be golfing ourselves, AK. Are you sure about that? Not that soon, sadly. Not that soon. But yeah, mid-February... I brought this guy to Weston once and on the ninth hole, I got out of my cart and I was walking to the green to mark my ball and a golf ball came out of the sky it wet right by my nose hair that that landed right in front of my toes and he was looking back at the

fairway the guy didn't say for you almost killed i didn't see any and i did of course i remember that i need my city city the ball was in the air is a tight high draw soaring through and i see you walking slowly to the whole make on second hit oh all all and it avoided you very precise with my irons you know i just can't imagine how much i would have lost it and that hit me right in the coconut like i would have had to list the house back on the list so sorry about that buddy

but that's all right now and that was the last time we teed it up maybe that is for her perky's there as my guess. That concludes Overdrive Arbitration. Darren Dragher will join us in studio in about 15 minutes. Hour two of Overdrive continues on TSN4 and TSN1050. Overdrive is brought to you by FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the

final score. Kuralnik in for Hayes, McClennan, O'Neill around the table. Darren Dragher will be here in about ten minutes to tf canada sweden that game tonight eight o'clock the americans play the fins tomorrow and there is a lot of people guys talking about that team picture of the united states not sure if you saw the two individuals who rock brock nelson but the bradley brock nelson picture for sure but

can you explain jamie as a goaltender what is going on with Conor Hellebock relative to his boy Kyle Conor on the left here? You're listening via podcast or via radio. Kyle Conor. He's got a giraffe neck going. He's got a long neck. Kyle Conor. Hellebock, he's like crimpled up there in his equipment.

What's going on there? I honestly, I thought that was, we talked about AI all the time and all of it But that was AI or something messing with it because it was almost like, you know Hella bucks look like you've shrunk into his gear and there's no way that's Kyle Connors neck like that It's it's a foot and a half long like that it's it's a foot and a half long like it really is i think it's just a bad angle of the camera

and the other one was Brock Nelson that looked digitally altered he looked like he was seventy four years old i don't know what's going on i never saw this oh dog you've got to see this picture he looks like a shriveled up old man in there and i don't know what's going on. Like he's skinny, he's very lean and tall, but he's got like gray hair. It looked like Brock Nelson 20 years from now in a reunion jersey.

Like I don't know. I don't know if we can pull it up or maybe after the break at the 6 o'clock hour. We got to go through these pictures because they're insane. I mean, and Austin Matthews, he was making some noise with his picture too because it's you know the salad is starting to creep out of there and he might need to go to Turkey soon to visit Istanbul there's right now he does look skinny in that you're right that looks like a 1942 hockey card it's like hey this is you know Jim Johnson like it just is so random.

That guy looks like some lanky guy on Bay Street that plays beer league on Thursday nights. Exactly. That doesn't look real. I think their pictures were messed up somehow. I have no idea what happened to them. I think it's real, Jamie. I think it just has got a weird look to it, man.

It's just, I don't know. The weird filter? Yeah like I don't know. It's just the the way his face is angled. It's a weird pig man Well, he looks old. Oh, he does he does. Well, he's got some be saw some graves We got some graves cooking over here, too I think we all are getting there in our lives for sure for sure But we talked about guys who could make statements with big tournaments. We've mentioned guys like Marner and Eric Carlson How about Brock Nelson pending ufa a guy? I'm sure is looking for a big payday into his mid-30s, and he doesn't have a very prominent role on team

USA is playing on the fourth line, but that guy could do some damage in the tournament You wonder what that could do for him going forward. I got one for you to You wonder what that could do for him going forward. I got one for you to Mika Zabana jet he needs it He's had a dreadful season for the range red full dreadful playoff last year, too But considering his the standard that he said, you know high scoring all of that type of stuff That's a guy if he has a big tournament Maybe especially you know gets the Rangers on a roll down the stretch something like that I don't know but it just that one I kept thinking of players going through the roster I'm like that's a Banajad needs a tournament to turn a

season around oh yeah and you look at Sweden down the middle is a Banajad and Elias Pettersson would be their top two centers and you guys so much have you heard what Pettersson had to say earlier today talking about some of the anticipation for this tournament, but here it is, Mr. Pedersen of Team Sweden this morning. You play against the top centers all the time, night after night, so it's not like that's the beauty necessarily, but when there's so many on every team. Well, it's definitely new that all of them are in the same team. But it's exciting. I'm excited about how we're going to perform against them.

I'm a little nervous in a good way. I'm excited for Pukdra. Two things on that, Kat. The first time I've seen him smile in a year. I'm not kidding. He generally looked like he had a smile on his face and he was happy to be there. And that's a matchup that has not been touched on a lot. When the USA play Sweden, him and Miller are going to be going head to head at center ice.

That will be fascinating to watch. Yeah, I agree. Like what if Miller just cross checks him right off the draw or something? You know, something like it could get ugly. Yeah, something could get nasty there. we're all gonna get a watcher we're all gonna be watching glass on those two for sure yeah that game will be something I'm very looking forward to those are those hats nice but that hat that Pederson was wearing is that a nice I'm getting the whole I'm getting I'm getting the

I'm getting a whole lot of them I'm getting all four countries and I'm getting a bag of stuff to bring home. I love it all. Okay, I think that's a very wise move, though. Thank you very much. Great to see you for the two hours. You'll be back tomorrow. I'm going, my car has already started.

I'm getting in my car to try to get there by eight o'clock. It's not that bad yet. It's not that bad. I just looked outside during the break, but it's getting worse. It's getting worse. So drive safe, buddy. All right, boys. Take it home in the last hour. You got it. That's the old dog, but it's getting worse. It's getting worse. So drive safe, buddy. All right, boys.

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