OverDrive - OverDrive - February 13, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

Join Aaron Korolnek, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss Canada's 4 Nations Face-Off victory against Sweden, Sidney Crosby's incredible performance, Mitch Marner'...s game-winning goal and the success in the tournament. TSN Reporter Ryan Rishaug joins to discuss Canada's massive win in the tournament, the construction of the roster and Crosby leading the team. They also discuss Tristan Thompson late-game dunk against the Raptors and Toronto response in the game.

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Starting point is 00:00:39 It is positive Thursday here on Overdrive. We're live on TSN 1050 TSN for in the I heart radio app The snowstorm is over Canada Victorious in game one over Sweden and what a show we've got ahead for the next three hours I am Aaron Kroniken for Brian Hayes with my friends Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McClennan what's going on fellas? much guys I first have to mention an angel from heaven helped me out today. Oh yeah?
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm not kidding. The snow was no joke. Oh yeah, serious business. So my marching orders, late night last night I had to drive home thirty kilometers an hour because of the highway was outrageous and jeff you gotta go out and shovel the driveway my lovely wife says and i'm like gotta do it that's what you gotta do
Starting point is 00:01:39 i took to shovels and i keeled over on the driveway because it was so much heavier than I thought. I thought it was just like a fluffy snow. This stuff had some weight to it. As soon as I keeled over, and I'm doing this because Hayes is not here and he hates when we give plugs, this guy with a plow that said, his company is called Always Green, Joe is his name, he
Starting point is 00:02:07 stopped and he goes, are you okay man? He goes, just back your truck out and I'll just rake the snow out for you. I'll give you a hand. I did the sign of the cross and I said to him, bud, look, my buddy is downtown, he's a lawyer and his family is with him and he won't even be able to plow that too no if you need a sprinkler guy a plow guy joseph show on the upon the guys tires joseph always yeah he did
Starting point is 00:02:35 say sorry keeled over any said you want some help and i'm like buddy urinate because i was in first of all my back was gone and then i was in no mood whatsoever because I was I probably had a long driveway I probably had three hours at work men what do you mean healed over like you fell over or there was actually something blow your back out you can't straighten out yes I do very well like and he drove right by at that exact same time so Joe you're the
Starting point is 00:03:00 best thanks Joe way to work I mean you were able to get you know your wife could get to work. I don't know. I mean, I don't think people were, schools weren't in today. Oh, it was a snow day. That's why I don't understand why I was sent out there to do it anyway. Well, that's the, I mean, I got out of my house or whatever at 10 a.m. and the roads were clean.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I don't know. I was like, why? What is all the big deal here? I mean, by 1 p.m., there there was the snow's melting. It's gone. Like I, I mean, I don't know. I get it. The safety of people. That's a Western hockey thing. No, that's you're going all Western Hockey League on us. Every time we were driving on the bus, World Juniors, all the guys from the West NHL, they'd be like, oh, this is nothing where we came from. We used to drive through the night in this and get to Lethbridge. Okay, so I'll tell you a story.
Starting point is 00:03:48 You're right though. We played at, I remember we played in Saskatoon or something one night and it was like minus 30, okay, and we were driving home back to Lethbridge and our bus froze up. Like just, we glided to a stop on a road. We had to walk a mile to a hotel. There was five rooms in the hotel and there was 25 of us, so it was five to a room. Because I was the starting goalie, I got a bed. But I mean, we could have died out there. It was minus 35, minus 40 with the windchill.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And our bus literally, like the gas line or whatever froze like that was it like there's horror stories of Dude, like I remember driving back from the Sioux like that's an all night trip and it would be snowing it's jet blackout and the bus would just seem to be cooking man and it was I was like I hope this guy had some coffee anyway aka last night what a night pal hope this guy had some coffee anyway a k last night what a night it really was and maybe your boy Joe helped you with your driveway is the you know the snow-blowing equivalent of Sydney Crosby he would be the equivalent because man what a performance from 87 last night and think just thinking about the lead in of this tournament and the question surrounding how legitimate would be and
Starting point is 00:05:02 the incredible ceremony they did before the game introducing lamu in the chance of cross be in the game starts and then the canadian power play gets on the board mcdavid to cross be to mckinnon and that place was going crazy and it's up on tsn for here was in this a truly unbelievable night for Canada. And yeah, say what you will about the second and third period and heading into overtime. You kind of forget about that, but an amazing win for Canada. Marner gets it done in OT. So much positivity coming out from that game, Noodle.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Well, you know it's funny. You're right. Say what you will. But I thought to myself, oh, you and I were texting a little bit. Like, have gone either way right you're three one and then you don't like the goal against goal number two and then you know goal number three goes in if they lose in overtime regardless of what happens it's just that it's a lot different correct I mean like because your times five like the first period I thought and I believe, and I think we all believed, the first five, ten minutes, like this was going to be a 7-1 blowout, like this was going to be ugly. And I think Sweden knew that was coming the first ten minutes and said, let's find a way to weather the storm.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And you could argue that Sweden got better as the game went on and and you know, Canada was you know doing their job and And but to me, you know, they tie it up and I just I had this pit in my stomach and it was you know Oh, you and I were texting going in do you like that goal? You'd like that one? I'm like, I don't know and and if just even if like Bennington made two unreal saves and overtime one of those go in We're talking something different today. But I mean, I'm glad Even if, like, Bennington made two unreal saves in overtime, one of those go in? We're talking something different today, but I mean, I'm glad McKinnon was unbelievable. Mitch Marner gets it done. I didn't think Marner had a great regular game, but I thought he was brilliant in OT
Starting point is 00:06:56 for that play. But there were just lots of storylines, but let's start with the positivity. They got it done however which way you wanted it. Lots of great play, lots of great play, lots of individual great play, and to me that was just an entertaining game. Oh, what did you feel? After seeing Mario come out on the ice, who is royalty, maybe the top of the food chain with Gretz royalty, like as soon as I, I'm a broadcaster and a fan of hockey. As soon
Starting point is 00:07:25 as that guy walked out and I have a relationship with him, I've had dinner with him a bunch of times. I played against him for a long time, but I just said, Oh my God, what a stud. What a stud coming out on the ice with that kind of wave is, you know, I'm amazing. I love the wave. Like that guy is just outrageous. It was so cool. The fans chanting his name. The Canadian power play. And my first thought was, imagine keeping this type of spectacle and that type of hockey, and all the players commented on it too, guys, where they said that was the fastest game
Starting point is 00:08:00 we've ever played. Like imagine depriving the hockey fan base of that type of hockey. And I know there's a bunch of really difficult high end stuff and hoops that need to be jumped through to make this stuff happen. But what a shame that we haven't seen more of this throughout the years. Like it's just an incredible first period. But I would think guys, like great ending ending the crowd chanting Crosby's name noodles you mentioned Marner I did not love his game there was probably five or
Starting point is 00:08:31 six guys games that really need to elevate but I think the coaching staff would say you know what I don't think we were that great like we had flashes even Connor McDavid like he had some plays in the first period where you're like wow he's humming yeah but if you put his total game together, I think if you ask Connor himself, he'd say, I didn't have my best stuff. That line didn't have their best stuff. And things need to kind of elevate if they're going to continue to grow because guys, maybe I'm wrong and we're going to find out tonight tonight But that USA team is all business and their real deal Holyfield And if they fall asleep for two periods like that on Saturday night, they'll get their ass handed to them
Starting point is 00:09:12 That would be my prediction. Yeah, you're right. Okay. I don't know how you felt about it But I just think there's so many things you can pull on, you know from a positive standpoint You know the Marner goal I thought Nathan McKinnon was ridiculous in overtime, ridiculous. I mean, Gustafsson made what, three or four great saves alone on McKinnon because he just kept winding it up and winding it up. Outside of Sid, I thought McKinnon was their best player. He was shot out of a cannon. But that being said, if you're Vegas today, you're happy to say
Starting point is 00:09:45 Theodore man like that. That I don't know if that's a broken wrist or whatever that is, but that's not good. You know, what do you feel like? So what do you mention Mario the mute coming out? That's the exact same thing that's going to happen in 20 years when Sidney Crosby comes out and they're playing the Olympics or they're playing the World Cup Cup of Hockey in 2045. That's the type of reverence that Sidney Crosby has amongst Canadian hockey fans and it is absolutely deserved. And last night, think of those three assists that he had. Number one, they were all primary assists. That pass to McKinnon on the power play, the pass to Mark Stone was ridiculous. And then
Starting point is 00:10:19 that final play where Crosby with all the brains in the world the way he enters the zone to withdraw past two mariner and the way he comes back out of the zone to stay on side and marter does the rest i mean and absolutely unbelievable performance from cross being it's up on tsn four year al-qaeda the rest in rudas like there is only what ten seconds of powerplay time well you're actually right here i should actually gave us a couple more cheesy ones to say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:46 I gotta see more of that. The people need more of it. That's tripping. They didn't call anything just high sticks right on for both teams. One high stick for both sides. First period. I literally said to myself, I'm like, Sweden, why don't you guys pack up your yellow gears and just go home? Trey because it looked like it was just like, I thought Jamie, you just mentioned seven to one. I thought the exact same thing. I'm like, yeah, you, you had you, this didn't just, uh, sneak up on you, this tournament.
Starting point is 00:11:14 You guys knew about this and you're playing like that for 60 minutes. Just take your yellow gear and go home. But they, they hung in there, man. And we talked about the campaign goal. That's what you're looking for when you're hanging around You're looking for a ref to maybe toss you a five on three and you're like here's our chance And you're also looking for that muffin if it goes in you're like alright boys. We're one away now We're one shot away from taking this thing to overtime and then you never know but Jamie you detailed the saves and overtime
Starting point is 00:11:44 Those were huge because if they don't get that done in overtime, I think Aiden Hill is probably in that. But yeah, I mentioned it last night on SportsCenter. If you're going to talk about gamers and winners, I think you can not have your best stuff. And there's two, the two best examples of it being a gamer and a winner were mitch marner and the goaltender bennington because they didn't have strong kinda it wasn't a game of perfect in you you work in a say that they were the best players
Starting point is 00:12:13 but come clutch time and there was two saves in overtime by bennington and mitch marner got the winner i hope that that that that goal and you ever know how us like a like an individual play like that and one goal can help a guy but you would think that that would be as good a player as Mitch Marner is one of the best players in the world that would help his confidence massive. You know what I can play in a playoff game
Starting point is 00:12:36 and not have my a stuff but you know what when the chips were down I contributed and that's what they're supposed to do that's what they've always been looking for a goal a play and he did it It was great stuff. Yeah, I agree because you can draw confidence off of it There were a lot of guys that didn't have their a stuff during the you know during the game But you still found a way to get it done. I agree I think there's there's so many ways there was almost like a fork in the road like okay You know we kind of took our foot off the gas now give Sweden credit
Starting point is 00:13:06 They got going and they were able there was no time and space for a lot of those big guys to get going But you know in overtime there was nothing but space and you know, Willie He was cheating at the far blue line. Yeah, and he was for that blue line He had one in tight noodles and he lost it. There's a bunch of times a Seattle Vancouver He's been losing the puck a little bit Yeah, I don't know if the lies on a stick are all jacked up But he had the game on a stick to an overtime Yeah, he did and you know what he was sniffing and you know this one here it rolls off of them
Starting point is 00:13:38 Oh, yeah, that was right there man. I was I was like this is over Yeah to me like I I think there's guys on both sides It didn't have their best but man. Oh, man that was it ended up being so entertaining I thought halfway through the game It was kind of boring as it slowed down and and and kind of wasn't a lot of space But I can't I talked to a few people that were in the building They were like that it was electric and what what an unbelievable place like Montreal regardless if you're a Habs fan or not They did it right last night. They did it right they ever they were cheering for Marchand
Starting point is 00:14:11 Which you know he never gets cheered in that building. They're chanting Crosby. You know Lemieux comes out I mean amazing it was just you could feel it through the TV You could feel the energy from sitting on your couch. If you weren't, and I'll admit this, I'll be the first to admit it, I wasn't so engaged in this tournament because I just thought, what are we going to get? Where are we at here? I told you I was at 20%. I got to like 60 to 80% leading up to it.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I'm all in right now if they continue to play like that. I thought that i think that has a made the statement of this is not a joke all-star game because you can see the mandate on their team whether it be the grants or the studs it's like we got a skate and we got a hit and they all did it and that was basically probably laid out for the guys this is not a joke and if you have any uh...
Starting point is 00:15:04 aspirations about being on this team next year at the Olympics you better hit and you better skate and they did it man. They did it. And we're going to see the USA play Finland tonight I'm a little bit skeptical as to what the Finns are going to be able to do considering what they've got on the back end all the injuries but I... You never know man.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You never know you're actually right you never know you never know a lot of people are riding off Finland I'm not ready to do that yet We'll see that game tonight eight at eight o'clock but back to Marner Which I think is a really interesting question and it was actually posed to John Cooper his Confidence following that goal and what it could do for him in his NHL career I got Carlo Colli Acro this morning on first up referred to the Marner goal as potential turning point for his career Which may sound a little bit dramatic.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That's probably how I would refer to it because again, it's the first game of a round Robin tournament against Sweden at three on three in overtime, not the gold medal game, not the Stanley Cup playoffs. I think if Mitch Marner is going to prove that he has become this big game player, he's got to do it in the Stanley Cup playoffs or maybe the gold medal game against the United States a week from today. That would be fine, but here's how Cooper was asked the question about Marner and his confidence post game last night. John, what do you think a goal like that can do for Mitch Marner? I don't know, if you're saying that like is that a confidence building goal?
Starting point is 00:16:30 That kid oozes confidence so I thought it was a big time player making a big time play at a big time moment and that's why guys like him are on this team. He was fabulous. Look at the ice time last night amongst forwards. Number one Connor McDavid. Number two Mitch Marner. he was uh... is fabulous look at the ice time last night amongst forwards number one car mac david number two mitch marner john cooper loves
Starting point is 00:16:49 in some mitch marner i don't think he was great though like to i agree i i i i don't think that that top line with reinhardt and i think there's a just that you have to make because mitch plays the type of game where he commands the park and then once he does it's get away from me and get open and i'm gonna make guys come to me and i'm gonna put it to you when you're going to be open
Starting point is 00:17:11 now he's playing with Connor McDavid who does exactly the same thing everybody talks about like the greatest player on earth he is but he's more of a playmaker first as opposed to a shooter so both of them do the same thing and they do it differently. Obviously McDavid does it at a high rate of speed. So they're gonna have to make that work on the fly. So maybe Mitch is gonna have to say to himself, the only adjustment is I gotta maybe get into more of a shooter mentality. And he doesn't exactly have the Austin Matthews release. It was a great shot last night. But just put yourself in a different spots. Play like
Starting point is 00:17:44 a like a true traditional winger And I don't think that you would you would view him as like his route running and his positioning on the ice I don't think anything what about it would be conventional or like a traditional winger type stuff So maybe that's the one thing he's got to change like straight lines go to the net maybe fan open for some one timers because McDavid is so good at like before like the puck comes to him he doesn't even stop it he'll just pass it for a quick one timer so just maybe get open and run some different routes to make it work because there's not much time because even though he scored the overtime winner if that line stinks to join out in the first period tomorrow night I guarantee
Starting point is 00:18:22 they're not skating out there in the second period I would guarantee that I thought you know you look at the dynamic of the two you're right like Connors more of a east-west but actually sorry Connor is north-south with speed Mitch is east-west and Reinhardt's not a burner. He can get there, but he's not a burner so there It's a unique line it looked a little bit disjointed during, you know, we'll call it the first three periods. Yeah, three on three, anything's, you're wide open to it, right? Like, I mean, it's just a, it's a different game. I don't know, the bigger debate is, do you want three on three hockey in the regular season to extend to 10 minutes or eight minutes? Because they got it done, you know, it didn't get it done in that first five minutes.
Starting point is 00:19:03 If it was five minutes of three on three, we're doing a shootout last night. And I was like, that game didn't deserve a shootout. That game deserved a goal and it got it. But it was, what was it, seven, eight minutes into the? Yep, eight minutes. Yeah. So you're, to me, I think that extends the debate. But getting back to that top line with McDavid, I think they had a little bit of juice early on. But you know, Sweden, that top pairing, like that at home and them started to lean on them a little bit, Brodean, and there wasn't a lot of space. And you know, you could tell they kind of got blanketed and couldn't really get it
Starting point is 00:19:38 going. But we'll see if they've got some chemistry heading in Saturday night. Because I think in theory, Cooper wants to play Marner with McDavid, but if it's just not going to be the chemistry, they're going to have to switch on the fly pretty quickly. Jamie, would you have had a nervous breakdown if it was dark in the entrance before Mario came out? And right before Mario came out, the guy says, Mario Lemieux and Jason Strudwick and they
Starting point is 00:20:05 were both holding the banner I honestly think that I would pass out and die yeah like the most random it's like yeah silver medalist from what's the name of the Spangler Spangler silver medalist Jay yeah cuz he was going if he went through his resume from the Spangler Cup and said Jason Strudwick I honestly I think I would I would die on the floor and I could not get up Well, I think there were only two guys out there with Mario holding the banner There were only two guys who got booed in that entire process and one of them was William Nylander and the other was Austin Matthews And they were getting for just showered with booze and do the leaf hatred never gonna be and it was good It was good for the tournament because it was just you know
Starting point is 00:20:47 Brad Marsh and is hated too, but Marner got love and overtime Marsh and got love when he scored and those guys being introduced like the enemy they're gonna get it That's just the way I just I looked at everything last night guys And it was obviously there would be a lot different mood today and we this whole tone of this first conversation would be way different if that's a loss because they'd be they'd be in a jam if they lost that one last night big time jam well this just the way the tournament goes I mean it's so short yeah you know is one week that one you lose Saturday you're out you're cooked the Americans, the same thing applies tonight.
Starting point is 00:21:26 They pretty much have to beat Finland to catch up to keep pace with Canada. Sweden picks up a point, Canada picks up two points by winning in overtime, but regulation wins are worth three. So, the Americans, and I think a lot of teams, I think the Americans, I think the Canadians, and I think the Swedes probably look at Finland as must-win games. Those are games we can't piss away because of the quality of the other teams, but we have no idea what this is going to look like with regards to Finland. They still have Barkov and Rantinen and Aho.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It's not like they're complete walkovers. I get it. Their second pair is Oli Mata and Henry Yokiharu, but still. Who cares, man? You saw last night, night 10 second power play goal You get a couple five on threes or something and you just don't have your legs for a 10 minute span You get Patrick line a rip in one timers and Barkov doing his thing Sebastian Aho I'm telling you man. You cannot we said it yesterday like we're overlooking these two teams and that game went to overtime last night
Starting point is 00:22:23 I agree. I kept looking you're like, oh yeah, Kempe's on that team. Yeah, you know, everyone's had Nylander but it's like Kempe and you go right down the line. I'm like, yeah, the good players like Brad, Erickson Eck, like Brad. Yeah, like just your top players from a lot of teams throughout the league and you forget, oh yeah, that guy's Swedish, forgot that guy's on the team. Like they were a good team in Canada Canada press but they came out on top when they needed to and that's that's what you needed Was a big win last night huge win for Canada two points for Canada the US play Finland tonight Canada back in action on Saturday against the United States, which should be something very special I know oh you'll be in the building for that and I'm sure you're very fired up for that
Starting point is 00:23:04 That's as good as it gets and we have a man joining the show just after five o'clock who played against the Americans for Canada And probably the biggest moment since is Eric Stolf the golden goal. He was there playing on a line with Sid back in 2010 Just had his jersey number retired, right? I would have loved to have been there but nobody called me so that What's going on with that. You must have got something on the way out there man. Like they just somehow they're like... Oh the owners of Bozo that's what it is. I'm not getting into that. What I'm saying though is you are a Carolina Hurricane legend. Yes. Eric Stahl was my first linemate and I didn't even get a phone call but we'll move on to have a lot of will cost all just after five o'clock ryan
Starting point is 00:23:47 reda do not bring that i want to talk to you maybe listens and watches overdrive who knows maybe he's already a prize as to what's going on pierre lebron will be on the show in a third hour keegan matheson jays pitchers and catchers reporting ross atkins updates on blad juniors contracts dude is it true that they offered Bregman a seven-year deal I think there's some conflicting reports about what they actually are that really blows like if they offered him a long-term deal And he said no to Like you're creeping up with Boston now
Starting point is 00:24:19 120 million, but yeah 40 40 million year for Bregman's a lot He's got opt-outs in the deal But we'll get Keegan's take when he joins us in the third hour of the show what a start here in our one that's noodles that's the O dog I'm Aaron Krollnick and for Brian Hayes Ryan Rashog live from Montreal where apparently there's a huge snowstorm there oh I don't know if you've been checking the weather yesterday here in Toronto there was a bunch of snow apparently Montreal with you yes have him drive you in the snowplow.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Dude I'm telling you this guy saved my life today. Always green. If you want your driveway plowed or your sprinklers done in the springer, give the guy a call. Put it in your background there. I'll get it. I'm gonna hook the guy up. I literally was like an angel. I keeled over and I looked and he was sitting in his truck with the window down. He goes, you need some help pal? And I said, yes Joe. Joe the angel, I love it. Alright, Hour One of Overdrive continues on TSN4 and TSN1050.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Hour One continues on this Thursday afternoon. You're listening to Overdrive, TSN4 for TSN 1050 the I heart radio app Koronek in for Hayes with noodles and the oh dog you would think after a big win like last night Maybe Cindy Crosby Nathan McKinnon stay out late Sleep in relax. No. No, they were on the ice They were actually the first two guys on the ice for Canada this morning following that win And I mean they just live it. They breathe it.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And they are by example players. And I think that's a very good example of it. It's like Ryan Rashog and Pierre Lebron. That's it. I think it's very much the same. They were probably at the rink practicing different types of interviews and comments and stuff. And they said, let's make this. This is like a dream scenario and when we go on
Starting point is 00:26:08 sports center let's make it perfect like sit in mckinnon let's welcome in ryan rishag is that an accurate description of what happened this morning ryan yeah no so what here and i do every hit that we do uh... we need to really had back to the hotel we call it up on the internet we sit and take notes we do self-critique so many critique each other we exchange notes and then we do the same thing again the next day before we take our first hit so it's a it's an endless pursuit of excellence but it's the commitment level that we have oh you should look into it but everybody's got their own style. I'm driving there.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Duffy apparently is on a private jet early tomorrow morning and he's the only one which is insane. I don't know why I couldn't have hopped on that. But Rish, everyone's got their own style, pal. I know you like to jot down notes and stuff. I like to just let it rip. Oh, dog, you should ask Ryan about your question to me when Mario was getting introduced. Rish, you were in the press box. If Mario came out and they started talking
Starting point is 00:27:16 about the Spangler Cup accomplishments and Struddy came out holding the banner with Mario, would you have fell out of the press box? Yeah, the story would have been he would have thought that all the standing ovation was for him He'd have been talking about it for a lot of months and months. His head is already big enough fellas We don't need to fill it with more ideas like that No take us through last night I mean Oh dog mentioned Lemieux the incredible ovation for team Canada. It looked absolutely Electric on TV. What was it like to be there in person? Yeah, it was it was pretty cool. Now. I've covered playoffs series here in Montreal
Starting point is 00:27:53 It was not to that level. I'm gonna be honest with you. It wasn't and maybe they're saving that for Saturday night But it was still awesome It's one of the it's one of the if not the the best buildings in the league to come and see events like this. The fans were fantastic. The cheer they gave Mario. The booze. They rained down on Austin Matthews. He was just so in the spotlight. It wasn't like it was an announcement of a starting lineup where it lasts like three or four seconds. It was like they announced his name. He's got to walk all the way out there shake hands stand there spotlight on and the place just absolutely crushing them but you know hey man you take that as a sign of respect they were willing to cheer for Mitch Marner a
Starting point is 00:28:37 little later on in the night and that just goes to show you but not really good not quite playoff style I would say say, yet, but high end and really fun and just an awesome night. And the hot dogs, top shelf. I kept it to one, the Schenzo, but top shelf. So Riesch, what was your biggest takeaway from last night's game? We talked about it. Obviously, they get it done in overtime.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Early on, it looks like it's going to be a route kind of a 7-1 game I felt like and then Sweden crawls back into it and really makes a game of it and I thought they were the better team kind of the second half of the game what was your biggest takeaway or maybe a couple of them yeah okay so I'll start with this how many times have you guys on your show over the last four or five six months had the debate how hard are these guys gonna try? Like what's it gonna be like? Is it gonna be a glorified exhibition game,
Starting point is 00:29:28 somewhere between a playoff game and a regular season game? A million times we've done that. Right, a million times. And I don't know where you guys landed on it, but we've talked about it a ton too. And the truth is, I thought it would be pretty good. I didn't think that they'd come here and slack off, but I thought maybe a little bit of a wink wink nudge nudge
Starting point is 00:29:47 Let's not hurt each other but play as hard as we can So there was a moment early in that game guys, and I'm sure you felt the exact same thing So the puck drops play goes for like whatever 10 15 seconds Nathan McKinnon has an opportunity to four checks hard in the corner first game first period first shift of the tournament and I audibly said Do it like I said it out loud The corner big hit in the corner and as soon as he did that I went we have a tournament Like for Nathan McKinnon first shift to just send a message to everybody Yeah, we're here to play and then he drew a penalty shortly after that we also what happened with the
Starting point is 00:30:26 power play jobs connect me running around out there like that the level of physicality in that game guys answered all of our questions probably surprised most of us and i i love the way they began and set the tone for that so just felt like oh yeah and it may be even feel more like I can't wait for Saturday night Reish Sydney Crosby, obviously the crowd chanting his name the three assists It was such an incredible night for him But if you look at like the team game and sat down and had a candid conversation with John Cooper Do you think that he would be a hundred percent all-in on like the total team game?
Starting point is 00:31:03 Because as much as I got the win and it was exciting I think the coaching staff would say there's definitely room for improvement actually quite a bit. Yeah, but I think your answer will come tomorrow at practice though. I think what you guys are talking a little bit about today, I don't think they love their game but I don't think we're going to see a ton of changes. I think they feel like they guessed right on a lot of this stuff. You know I don't think you're changing the Crosby line. I know you guys are debating the McDavid Marner line a
Starting point is 00:31:31 little bit but here's the thing on that. So they started fast, some great individual moments, McDavid with some great plays, some brilliant defensive play from Sam Reinhardt through that game right to break up in front of the net get an amazing shot blocked too, that was clutch. Here's the thing, it was tough through the middle part of that game and they were dumping the puck in like they were gonna be a dump and chase, go get it line and they just, nothing happened, right?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like Mitch Marner, a few puck retrievals in the corner guys, like that's Zach Hyman's job. That's what Zach Hyman does, puck goes into the corner, he goes and gets it. And Mitch Marner's not necessarily the guy for that. So I was sitting up there thinking, oh boy, I don't know if this is the right mix. And then what John Cooper did in the third period,
Starting point is 00:32:15 he leaned into that line. Even though it wasn't going fantastic, he leaned into it. He played him a ton down the stretch, played him a ton in the last couple of minutes, put him into defensive situations, trusted them, double shifted them and got great results from them. So I really liked the patience that Cooper showed and then the fact that he leaned into those guys and of course you need to have him out there in overtime.
Starting point is 00:32:36 But to answer your question, definitely things they didn't love, but I don't think we're going to see a lot of changes. One change we will see is on the back end as Shea Theodore breaks his wrist last night, which is just tragic, right? Coming from Vegas, 20 minutes into the game, less than 20 minutes into the game, this guy breaks his wrist, he's done for the tournament, he's going to miss some time in the NHL schedule as well. Travis Sandheim will slot in.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Ryan, can you explain to us the injury replacement or lack thereof protocol with this tournament? Yeah, lack thereof would be the thing. I know our insiders are kind of chasing their tails trying to get answers today and I think you guys said you had LeBron on a little bit later. So he'll be able to dial in the details even more. But bottom line, the original set of rules were if you had 18 skaters and two goalies, there was no replacements allowed. Now it didn't matter the mix, forwards, defensemen didn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Once you got below that 18 healthy skaters that's where they started talking about being able to bring guys in. I think they've kind of tweaked that a little bit here because you don't want forwards playing defense in the tournament, right? And team Canada is an injury away from that potentially happening. They're going to allow them, I think basically if there's another injury, then you can sort of circle a guy, have him ready to go. But the idea that you're going to just bring somebody in right now that's going to be with
Starting point is 00:33:55 your team and practice with your team and go to all the meetings and be part of the team, that's what they're pushing back on. They're not allowed to do that right now. You can have a guy aware, you can have a guy ready, you can have a guy in mind, but you can't bring them in and make them a full-time part of the team every day here. And I think there's some back and forth happening right now. Because bottom line, like what rule book are they falling back on? Like what, what, what, this is a one-off. So I think they're trying to have common sense rule the day, but I think there's some back and forth-forth happening about what's reasonable
Starting point is 00:34:26 yeah i would make no sense for them not to be able to replace up injured player man i would be totally absurd glad that they are going to be can't well no but i think there was another in another team and the idea yeah so san jose and will slot in for june b insane to see a travis connect near sam bennett playing on the back and noodles i know I mean It's gonna be a tough situation. I mean either way because Theodore is a huge loss What did you make of Bennington's game? And you know to me I thought he made a couple big saves in OT
Starting point is 00:34:55 But you know I think there might have been a few shaky moments had they lost that game We might have been talking about Aiden Hill. I don't know. What do you make of it? Yeah, so here was my thought. You know, heading into the third period, you're like, okay, you know, hasn't it's been okay. And then all of a sudden, Sweden completes that comeback, and you don't love some of the goals. And we're sitting there going, oh, boy, we'll be talking about some serious goalie issues here. Moving forward, it's going to be part of the narrative. But what I would say is that he might have done enough in overtime to have kind of, you know, late in the third
Starting point is 00:35:30 and in overtime to have redeemed himself a little bit there. And I'm not sure what you guys think, but it felt to me like, look, everybody had some shaky moments in that game, first game. And when a goalie has a shaky moment it ends up behind him right so if you measure him by the same standard you've measured everybody else by you'd say yeah was there a shaky moment or two yeah how was he when it really mattered and I thought he played some of his best hockey when it really mattered in overtime that probably made them feel a lot better about the original decision that they'd made guys to go with him because yeah he was good in a big-money
Starting point is 00:36:04 moment and I can't help but wonder if that maybe didn't buy him a reprieve from what the first 45-50 minutes might have spelled out for him. What are you expecting tonight, Rye? Like Canadian hockey fans, especially in a such a fantastic place Montreal, they were jazzed up last night but USA Finland tonight like are we talking potentially not full barn or like yeah maybe a step obviously it's gonna be a step back because of no Canada just overall general expectations of tonight yeah I mean oh we've been in enough international tournaments and world juniors like we know what it's like at a tournament in Canada when
Starting point is 00:36:43 Canada is not playing right it just it doesn't have the same jam. Understandably I ran into a guy downstairs he's grabbing a coffee. We got chatting I said you going to the game tonight? He goes yeah well we were gonna go home but last minute we canceled and we're staying because of the weather and so we were able to go to the game tonight. I said how was getting tickets and he goes oh like 70 bucks there everywhere. No problem So like it, you know, then there's been talked about the prices, right? So he same day obviously was able to snag a pair of tickets pretty easily. It's just not it's not the same thing
Starting point is 00:37:16 What I'm more interested in I mean never mind the fans and the crowd and all that kind of stuff when the puck dropped last night There was no question what kind of game that was going to be and what kind of tournament this was going to be and I'm interested to see if they can get anywhere close to that level tonight because that was we had multiple players world-class players saying that was the fastest game I've ever played in right are they going to find that same level tonight or will there be a bit of disparity from the intensity and the speed we saw last night to tonight? What's your plan this evening? Are you going to be at the game perhaps taking in some other festivities?
Starting point is 00:37:51 No, I am, man. These are late starts too. It's messy. Like 8 o'clock, 8.15, 8.20, puck drop, whatever that was. We were like, we finished work and got back at 1.30. So I won't include you in this necessarily all but for the rest of the world it's tough to have find too much fun after 1 a.m. out here in Montreal it was back to the hotel and shut her down for the night.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Buddy I haven't seen I haven't like been close to 1 a.m. in five years pal I'll be like I'll be crawling back to the hotel immediately after the game on Saturday for bed It's going Hopefully we can find a nice dinner tomorrow night. Oh you and I overdue pal. Yeah, can't wait buddy Let's have the limo ready to take us out to Brassard tomorrow at approximately 9 a.m. You guys have never been on the road working one of these gigs Oh He just like shows up in the lobby at the time you tell him with no concept of how we're getting where we're going
Starting point is 00:38:49 or he just needs to be managed. Like, usher him into the vehicle, cover his head if it's raining, and just get him where he needs to go so that he can, the cameras can go on and he can become O. That's right. There you go. That's all people want.
Starting point is 00:39:01 We'll see you tomorrow, pal. Thanks for doing this. Right on, yeah, safe travels. Ryan Rashog. Odog, you tomorrow pal. Thanks for doing this. Right on. See you at Travels. Ryan Rashog. Oduck, you and I back in the day, the early days of TSN 1050 had some times on the road. Remember our trip to Philadelphia for the draft back in 14? Who was our buddy there that was working with us on the radio that came to Philly with us? Our boy Zack Summers.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Zack Summers, my man! Man, we had some good times with Zack. Our boy Zach Summers? Zach Summers, my man! We had some good times with Zach. We did, we did have a good time. I remember Bruno Caboclo was drafted by the Raptors that night we were there and that was a long night. You definitely saw after 1 a.m. that night, let's put it that way. We had some good times. We most certainly did. Some good times for Jimmy Butler last night. Well, maybe not so much. I don't know if you guys have seen this clip. The underpants cam in full effect in Golden State, Jimmy Butler's new wear. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:39:57 I don't blame him, like things happen, but the trainer immediately has got to get an ice Oh, I'm on that say I need to speak to you in the locker room He me or one of the body be Gatorade right like it's not an actual situation Right, you never know what you've got is thin layers. You've got some what are they called spandex shorts underneath the tight shorts and There is not a lot of material right there. So that is that that's That's a fast lane right to the white shorts is what it is. I thought that's what you're looking at He spilled or sat in some orange Gatorade, but it kind of looks like it's stained
Starting point is 00:40:41 It looks like it crapped his pants. That's really what happened. Yeah, it's a tough look for Jimmy. I'm sure he'll be just fine. There's nowhere to hide these days, man. There is nowhere to hide. Twenty years ago, that's nowhere on the Twitterverse, but now one little thing like that and one fan catches it. You are absolutely rinsed. It's white pants and it is yellowish, brown, whatever, substance. It's not good. It's not good. it is yellowish brown whatever substance.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It's not good. It's not good. It is not good. And I don't think people love Jimmy Butler. I think they want to pile on that guy. But there's definitely, you know, there's something fishy there. He might have to have like. What's going on with Jimmy Butler?
Starting point is 00:41:22 His next media, somebody might ask him. Oh, they better. They might have to actually ask him. That would be journalistic malpractice. Yeah, what happened to your shorts? Ask him. Yes, that should be the first question. Yeah, you just signed a $121 million contract, Jimmy, but what was going on with your shorts
Starting point is 00:41:37 last night in the third quarter? Here's the picture, answer the question right now. Yeah, that was a tough one for old Jimmy there. Alright so speaking of tough ones, the Raptors get destroyed by Cleveland but what happened in the last 10 seconds a major subject of conversation. We'll get to that in our two. We also have Eric Stahl joining us. 2010 Olympic gold medalist, one of the great players in Carolina Hurricanes history, Stanley Cup champ. That's just after five o'clock.
Starting point is 00:42:05 It's the first hour of Overdrive here on TSN4 and TSN Radio. Overdrive is brought to you by FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Kowalnik, McClennan, O'Neal with you. Eric Stahl in about 15 minutes. The Raptors get destroyed by Cleveland last night, but the last ten seconds a big topic of conversation formerly beloved canadian tristan thompson as you can see up on tsn for
Starting point is 00:42:32 the games done he goes full ridley greg uh... shot into the empty net dunks in the rafters obviously take issue with it they want to get a tristan thompson who frankly i'm still stuck is i'm stunned is still in the nba i mean i thought i still stuck is i'm stunned is still in the nba i mean i thought i was i was on ten years ago still in the nba like is that you don't want to use any of the do that they have a card at the very bottom yeah i i think so and he was riding lebron's coattails for years in cleveland before he left in
Starting point is 00:42:58 dark or a activation rj bareman they were not impressed with tristan thompson here's darko postgame I think what Tristan did there was no class and disrespectful I'm not gonna stand for that for sure and I'm really glad that our guys our players from Jamal that he was in the court and Scottie and everybody else that they stood up for for themselves I love when my team stands up for themselves. That was no class act Pretty sure it's kind of like unwritten rule, you know kind of to not do that man. So You know proud of tomorrow did what you're supposed to do
Starting point is 00:43:35 Two things three things. They're a terrible team. So when you're a terrible team, you just got to chew on it Sorry Yeah You have been garbage all year and sometimes when people do that to you and punk you like that You're gonna have to take it on the chin RJ Barrett wants to make a comment about an unwritten rule But the for the coach when you have the record that you do you just got to be quiet and say I don't comment on Other players on other teams very simple like I Like I'm not going to stand for that.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah you are because you just did. The guy did it to your team. So just be quiet and say you know what I don't comment on other players teams. You got smoked man and that's what Tristan Thompson said after the game. He's like you got cracked by 30 and you're going to like look at this. Just be quiet. So you know what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 We stink this year and we deserve getting punked on because that's exactly what happened. That's because that is what happened. It did. You want to talk about an unwritten rule when you're so bad and you're getting cream like that? Sorry, all the rules are out the window. Yeah, but it is that you write all the rules. It is greasy though.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Like that's the thing. I get it and you're right. You just got punked by thirty tristan's not wrong but it is there are unwritten rules oh and and like that i didn't like it i like that guys took offense to it but you're right which you're saying is not wrong you want to take offense to take offense to losing by thirty that's
Starting point is 00:45:01 should be pissed at so i mean not that a guy but the guy and a hero each of the NBA or second very close to it. Yeah, Cleveland amazing. This guy is so excited Yes, I have an opportunity to score for the first time in probably months Well, we've seen a bunch of scenarios where a guy's creeping up on 50 and they're killing the other team and he just keeps dropping Bombs from the three-point range. Yeah, and it's just one of those things but when you're losing and you're getting crushed like that Sometimes you're just gonna have to take it on the chin man because you got nothing else to say about it during the competition element of the game you were nowhere to be found so that's what
Starting point is 00:45:51 you're gonna have to live with at the end why he was doing that his own teammates would probably pull him aside and say you really need to be doing that man yes you're right and I would say his tweet afterwards talking about how it's my city and buddy boy Talking about Darko Ray Acovich and be worrying about the lottery as opposed to everything else I mean pretty rich coming from Tristan Thompson's one thing if you know a Incredible play I said it a K. Yeah, don't comment on other players throughout the league I know I I I I Respect the Raptors for standing up for themselves. They were disrespected both during the game in the last 10 seconds
Starting point is 00:46:27 I think you have to give them a little bit of credit for showing some pushback and showing some Fight at least after the game and if only they brought it during the game would have been now would have been nice would have Been nice our two coming up Eric stall will be on the show We have Pierre Lebrun coming up as well We have Keegan Matheson live from Blue Jays spring training Jam-packed final two hours. Hour two is next. You've been listening to overdrive powered by FanDuel. FanDuel Bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score

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