OverDrive - OverDrive - February 2, 2026 - Hour 2 - Jason Strudwick

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jonas Siegel for Hour 2 on OverDrive! Struddy's World Podcast Host and Former NHLer Jason Strudwick on the Maple Leafs' retool options, the Stadium Series between the Bruins and Lightning and Connor McDavid chasing the Hart Trophy. The guys discuss Bad Bunny performing at the Super Bowl halftime show, O-Dog witnessing Paul McCartney and Jonas lists the biggest decisions for the Maple Leafs and Bryan hands out his FanDuel Best Bets.

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Flex seal. You put that on anything, Jonas. Dude, have you ever seen Philly Swift when he's in the seethrou boat going across the lake when he taped the bottom of it? This tape, dude, this tape will stop anything. Yeah. And that's what Big Baby needed. He needed that for his hair.

It's unfortunate. Like, these are the things, I don't know, should you be worried about your hair when you're walking into a boxing match? You know what I mean? Like, you can look good, right? I guess. Yeah, you want to look good. but you also kind of need to be prepared for the fight.

I think that was the bigger issue for Big Baby was getting beat up. You know, the hair didn't hold a chance. But yeah, he needed some flexial for his hair. He definitely did. What are you going to do? Anyway, hour two overdrive continues, powered by Fanduel. Jason Strudwood coming up in a few moments. You see the Blue Jays.

It's a big year for them. Their 50th anniversary, and they announced that we're getting a new statue outside of the dome that will commemorate the 92 and 93 World Series. I think that's awesome. So do I. Hayes, as you mentioned, there's got to be winning involved. Although, I think if I remember correctly, you don't believe there should be a Kyle Lowry champion statue outside of the Scotia Bank.

Well, let me, I don't remember saying that necessarily. Dude, you are big, no statue guy. I remember, I will get the clips. You're right. No, I have a very, very strict, strict. strict level of superiority that is needed for like a statue. Like to be statue worthy, I think the 92-93 World Series, 100%. The 2019 World Championship of the Raptors, that deserves statue.

Yes. I'm cool with that. Now, Kyle, the thing is Kyle didn't have a signature moment. He was brilliant in game six. Okay, but dude, what statue was going to signify? Well, it's probably Kauai against Philly. Now, the weird thing about that is that was the second round. Dude, who cares?

And don't overthink it. If that's the signature moment, then you put a statue out there of him crouching down in the corner and watching it go in. That's a pretty big statue, though. It's not like an easy one to make. I don't know how you would do that. I don't know. But it would be pretty cool.

But don't get pissy about Kauai left right after because it has nothing to do with anything. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's where I'm going to stop you. See, you're going to do exactly what I said. to do. Overthink what happened afterwards. I think, did you see who was involved in the statue revealed today? Joe Carter was there.

So Joe Carter is in the room with Shapiro and I think Beeston's in there, which is kind of cool. And Joe Carter, obviously, he caught the ball in 92, last out of the world series, and he hit the ball in 93. So Carter is the natural centerpiece of the statue. I don't know how they're going to morph the two together. I don't know if they're going to. I don't know if it's just him jumping in the air and then only 93. is commemorated. I feel if you're going to do 92 and 93,

I think it's got to be Carter jumping in the air in 92 and then him leaping in the air in 93, but I don't know how you do that. We'll leave it to the sculptor, I guess, to figure it out. But that is 100% statue worthy. 2019 is statue worthy. The problem is Kauai wouldn't show up for it. Yes, he would.

I don't think he would. I don't think he would. I think if you called Kauai and said, we're making a statue or putting it outside, he'd flush your call. He has no connection to the city. None. He came up here, won a title, was unbelievable, and left. Fred Van Fleet said recently on a podcast, a guy told him basically right off the bat, I'm out of here. Like, I'm not staying. He's got no connection to Toronto.

I mean, he did try to stay, remember? Kauai? Yeah, they talked about a trade with him and Paul George Company. That wasn't legit. It wasn't ever going to happen. They were using the rappers to fleece the clippers, which they did. I agree with Jeff. You're the statue of police. No, yes, I am. Sheriff Hayes. Someone's got to be.

Forget about the afterwards. and forget about if Kauai is even going to show up to announce the statue. You just say the statue's going to be made and it's going to be outside. You can't make a statue of a guy and he doesn't show up. Why? Are you serious? Dude, I'm dead. If he's passed away, if it's a scenario where he's not alive anymore, that's different.

You're honestly, you're way out of hand. You're out of hand with the statue. Do you know how embarrassing this conversation even is? And obviously, I don't know this is fact. Maybe Kauai would show up. Put out a poll, doogie. This guy's insane or not. You guys have a loser energy.

No, he does. Yes, you do. You would make a statue of a guy and he doesn't show up and he'd be like, whatever, that's fine. That is loser energy, dude. That is actually insulting. That guy was insulting to a great city. The main reason they won a championship. Yes, of course you could talk about Kyle Lowry being the greatest raptor of all times,

or Nick Nurse or whatever. But if they didn't have Kauai, they don't even come close to him. A hundred percent agree with you. Then you just put the statue up of him crouching down and the ball going in. And if he doesn't want to come, who cares? That's the signature moment. It's like at the Oscars when like someone wins but they're not there. And it's like, okay, well, we'll just show the picture.

Yeah, but that's totally different. That's an award. Like, this is something that you're developing well past the fact. The Oscars are in a moment. Dude, it's just a cool thing. You're reading too much interest. I'm not reading too much in. Yeah, you are.

Joe Carter will be front and center. He was a part of the reveal this morning. He will be there. I would be shocked if he's not. Now, I might have to really backpedal here if he's not. And maybe there'll be details and reasonable ones. I think it's great that Joe Carter was there, but like really, what did that really mean? It means everything.

Nobody's going to remember that day. If they just put out a statement saying, we're putting up the Joe Carter statue and a quote from Joe says, saying, I think the statue's great. Like, you're honestly, you're being a moron. No, I'm not. It lands more that Joe Carter is involved in the process. Nobody remembers the first day it's there.

Right? The statue? Nobody cares. Do you think 25 years they're going to be like, it was quite? I understand that. I'm saying I care. I care and I think the city cares.

This guy described the hockey hall of fame as a room with plaques in it. And now he's statue security guard guys. I'm Paul Blart, the statue. Isn't the only statue out front of the dome, Ted Rogers? Yes. Now, I saw it, was it Mitch Bannon report that they're taking that down, actually, which... For the Joe Carter? I get.

Like, is there nowhere else you can put a statue? It was always a little strange that Ted had one. Like, you know, he was a great Canadian, unbelievable businessman. He did a lot. They bought the team, owned the building and all that. I don't know. It was really strange that he had a statue. when he was owning the team, they didn't win anything.

Anyway, my understanding is they're taking that down. I don't know what they're going to do with that statue, but I guess Joe Carter's will replace it. Now, if they had of just won a World Series, then that would mean they'd need two statues. Who would get that statue? Man, I don't know. I guess Bichette, possibly, because he hit the biggest home run in the game.

But maybe Hoffman closes in another world, Hoffman closes, and he's like in the air, you know, Kirk's got him, and that's your statue. and Hoffman shows up. What about like the Barger Homer or Barger Row? Yeah, but Barger, those were different moments, not in game seven, was it? Yeah, right. Anyway, it didn't happen, so it doesn't matter.

You probably wouldn't allow it anyway. You guys would be all for everyone getting a statue. Yeah. Like, you're just statue. What, do you hate Legends Row, too? No, I actually really appreciate Legends Row. Bring it Struddy, and I'll ask Struddy, the voice of reason about this. Struddy's from Edmonton, though.

Sturdy's, like, he only cares about a Warren Moon statue. Like, he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. All right, here he is. Jason Strudwig. Yeah, welcome to the show. What an intrody. Hi, Struddy. How are you?

Are you guys grumpy today already? I haven't been off for 10 seconds. You sound edgy boys. I can't imagine what's going on. Let me ask you this, Struddy. Okay. The Raptors, the 2019, obviously won the World Championship,

the NBA title, correct? Well, yeah, as far as I remember. Yeah. Okay. Kowai Leonard, Integral Part, in this signature moment of the playoffs was him making the buzzer beating shot against the sixers where he's crouched down in the corner

and he watches the ball dribble in and it was just a fantastic moment. And me and Jonas were saying that there should be a statue of Kauai in that moment out front of the Scotia Bank Arena and Brian Hay said if he's not going to come back and welcome the statue and be a part of the unveiling, I'm not for it. Do you agree with that notion or is that complete lunacy from our host?

Well, just let me get this good. Had he said he won't come back. It's hypothetical. He may come back. Struddy, our point is it doesn't matter if he comes back or not. It's about the fans and the moment for the fans. Whether this guy embraces the statue or not, nobody cares. I don't.

I care. Jonas doesn't, but Hayes does. Lose or energy. Go ahead, Struddy. Where do you stand on the potential? Kawai statue. So let's be clear, it's not lose their energy. He won. He got you a championship.

I mean, when's the last time a team from Toronto won a championship? That was it. That one. Yeah, the Js are 93. That's what I mean. And so, and so, listen, this is what I believe be true. You only honors either elite and like Hall of Fame players of statues or won the championships. So I heard you talking about the Bichette and all that. I'm like, that, that makes me a little bit dice.

I was cheering for that team, but they didn't win. So I don't think you want to remember that moment. No, I'm with you now. They didn't win. So they're not getting a statue, 100%. Yeah. But Kauai, the only thing I would challenge about Kauai is only there for one year. But in that one year, he made a huge difference to a franchise. So I'd be fine.

I'd be fine with him. You know, but where he at was a retiree's jersey. Would you toss? No, no chance. No chance. No chance. One year, he was the greatest individual year, maybe in Toronto sports history, quite frankly, that's how good he was, especially

in the playoffs. Those two months were unbelievable. And it's all hypothetical. Like, maybe he would come back and that'd be amazing, then go for it. He doesn't forget it. I picture a scenario where it's like, we're going to commemorate that moment, and thanks for everything, Kauai. And Kauai's like, awesome, I'm not coming.

That to me is that's loser energy. That's what it is struck. That actually seems like you have loser energy. No. I know. You're like, projected, so you're like, forget it. Yeah. That's a dumbest argument you've ever tried to make of the show. I'm getting tons of support online.

Oh, my. Read me one thing. Read me one thing. Yeah, I'll read right here. DJ tweeting in, Hayes is completely correct. It's insane to say that Leonard should get a statue if he's not going to show up. Who else? Right here.

That was just written down by Brian Hayes. A.B. Writing in, Team Hayes, about the Kauai statue, no chance. That's your burner account. Yeah. Actually, this guy had a good one. He goes, maybe they should have a tree planting statue for Kauai. And he might actually show up.

That actually would be good. But anyway, it's all hypothetical. The point is that because they're building a statue for the 92, 93 Js, which is long overdue. And Joe Carter was a part of the reveal today. He was a part of the video. And, you know, it was Joe Carter's moments. He got the ball in 92. He hit the ball in 93.

He'll be here, I would guess, for when they reveal the statue. Anyway, Strud. How do you feel about statues for players who didn't win? Well, that's a great question. Let's say McDavid never wins a cop in Edmonton. Does he get a statue? A hundred percent. Struddy?

I don't know, man. Yes, come on. I don't think so. Obviously, Jersey retirement is a lock. But, like, and he's one, but I don't know. I just, I think that statues are, like, it's almost, it's above Jersey retirement. There's so few statues. When I think about around the league, like, I can think of,

Michael Jordan's outside of Chicago, I think Wayne Gretzky's outside of Emmington. Who's outside of Montreal? Is that Bellevot? Yeah, there's four of them. In Montreal, it's like Bobby Orr was great. Morens, Belvo, LaFleurre, and Richard. There's four of them.

You guys are like statue, police. I love, I study statues. Yeah, in Boston, there's Bobby Orr, there's Larry Bird, I think. Man, it's, there should be very few athletes ever that get statues. I agree. McDavid should have one.

Not if he doesn't win. Why? Because he hasn't won. I mean, he's done everything he can. Oh, okay. Well, he's done everything you can. He actually hasn't, Jonas. That's the point.

He hasn't won. Wow. You got to win to get a statue. Strud, you're on board with that. You just said that. I do. I think that's like the next level, right? It's just like superhero level, I think.

And he is that, but I think I do think winning matters. I do. I do think for the statues. Well, there you go. Would you think of that outdoor game last night, Struddy? Tampa, Boston, goes to overtime, a shootout. Kutrov with four points, two goalies fighting. It was just unbelievable last night.

How about them being down by four? Yeah, down four, and they came back to won the game. I know. You know what? Like, I hear a lot of people saying they're down on the outdoor games. And, like, I think it's for the local community. I feel the same way about the All-Star game. I'm not going to watch the All-Star game,

and I'm not going out of my way to watch an outdoor game. I check in and see what's going on, but I'm not going to, but I've got to watch this. Now, the first couple, yes. But I think it's great for the local people, but then you have a game like last thing, and people are like, I've got to turn this game on, man. It's unbelievable. So you start watching it. It is incredible.

And that was a great game. And, you know, the way the guys are dressing up, you know, even John Cooper, like that outfit, not a lot of people could pull that off. And, you know, it just adds to it, right? It adds, that gets eyes on our game, you know, that are non-hockey fans. So I think that's important part of what those guys did last night. Yeah, it was a great game. And like Kuturav with four points again last night.

And he feels like he's got three or four points every single game. He's so sick, man. He's so good. And he had a breakaway in overtime. And he actually was a brutal, brutal breakaway. He shot it right into his chest. But the goal he scored was unreal. And he's chasing McKinnon and McDavid.

He's nine-back of McDavid. run out of time, but what's your Jerry's percentages on Kutrov winning the Art Ross? Well, I think he's in third. So right now I say he's third. So whatever that percentage would be, I mean, I, listen, those other two, what I love about these three guys, they all do it so differently. They also do it so differently. But I love that there is a fight being made for because at the beginning of the year,

it looked like it was just McKinnon. Yeah, and like McDavid has obviously been a rock star, but Kutrov continues on the pace. He's been on the last 25 games. He might catch him. Well, let me ask you this, Truddy. Actually, I'll ask you, N-O. We know where Hayes stands.

Thanks, Jonas. I'll give you McDavid or the Field for the Heart Trophy. Oh, man. I'm going to take McDavid. I'll go to the Field. Wow. That was a surprise. There you go.

Yeah. Oh, man, the field, there's so much. The field is like two people. It's like McKinnon, Kutcherov. And if you want to throw him a car. What about celebrating? Okay, he's not winning. He's not winning.

He's not winning. He's in the race. What? If they make the playoffs, you don't think he's deserving. He's not winning. But David's going to have 140 points. Yeah, but how many of celebrating are going to have was his next guy having like 60 points? Like, to me, that's incredible what he's doing.

And there is precedent with Taylor Hall winning it with the same type of guy. Yeah, that was a mistake. Why was it a mistake? That's not against Taylor Hall. They had taken a shot. I voted McDavid that year. Jeff, come on. Back me up.

It's got to be McDavid. I just remember McDavid. What did he have, 120 points that year or something? It was a lot. He had a lot. But Taylor Hall, I thought it was a fantastic story. And the big part about all the conversation was he had 42 more points than the next guy in his team. And he was so clutch every night and coming down the stretch.

And he got New Jersey in the playoffs. So it's kind of deserve it. Listen, McDavid, like Dry Settles, fifth in points. Hyman scores every single night. Don't do this. I'm just saying, like, McDavid's got help. McDavid's got help. So does McKinnon. But

McDavid's playing at a level that's absurd. Like, it's absurd. But the Oilers, what we've noticed, or what I noticed over the weekend is now there's some people in that market looking at Tristan Jari strud. Like, what's going on with this cat?

Like, his numbers are terrible. Do we have another Stewart's inner issue on our hands? Like, how are people handing the goaltending in Edmonton? I knew when I got the call, say this would be coming up. But this is, leafland is on fire. And you guys are asking if I left my toilet seat up. That's what you're asking me. That's the same thing that you're asking me.

No, listen, they both had shutouts just a short time ago, right? I mean, he's coming back from injury. I don't think it's easy to come back from injury. For a goal, I think the timing's thrown off or been thrown off and such. But does you have a better? Yeah. Like, I didn't like, the first three goals. I can live with. You know, he'd like to make one save, but the fourth and fifth, yeah, I can get behind that. But listen, the team in front of them, just, I just want to tighten them up defensively.

And we've seen this core group of players being better defensively. I think the last five or six game, the core group hasn't been good defensively. Can the goalies be better? Sure. But I think that it's step one is the group in front, and then the goalies will tie it up and get Jari some time healthy in the pipes. All right. We'll give you an opportunity to chime in on the Leafs strut, because everyone's doing it.

What's the plan for the Leafs? Do they just punt on the season and feel like they can get back into the dance next year? Do they have to retool? Do they have to completely scorched Earth rebuild? Where do you stand on things? Well, two things. One, I saw Pronger the other day. Just tear the show in half.

He was on fire that guy. And then I realized watching him, this is my number two point. It's not fun. When the Leafs aren't playing well, I don't really. enjoy chirping them. It's not as much fun when they build it up and then they pull the chair out from underneath everyone, right? So that's not as much fun. So I have been thinking a lot about the lease. Right now, I would be of the mindset trying to unload and trying to find some flexibility. I mean, I've been saying that once I've said a thousand times, I need to get more

puck moving defensive on the back end. I know he just got Carlo, I know that, you know, whatever, he costs a lot, but you need to get something that can move the puck. And I keep using Shane Gauthusbrew as an example. I recognize he's on a contract. It might not be perfect, but I want something that can move the puck better. So I am trying to move, obviously, anyone's a UFA. I'm trying to maybe move off a D-Matter-2 side, more flexibility to add puck moving D

and adding speed to this lineup. So very casual, but I didn't even enjoy that, guys. It's not even fun. That's great. Now we're getting a pity commentary from Strud. You are. You are. Yeah, it sounds sincere.

I don't enjoy it either. wish I was calling you to chirpy guys, but it's not even fun anymore. So I don't know what did they play Calgary tonight, Emington tomorrow? So they got, is that their last two games? Last two. Last two and they're done, yep. You mentioned Carlo. I did not know until I started putting eyes on him on a shift-to-shift basis.

Because I was a big fan of him when he was in Boston. You seemed like a big strong guy. It seemed like he just seemed like a big stud back there that had everything under control. but watching his puck play, and I don't know if it's the Leafs that kind of exposed it, but man, it's an adventure when he has the puck. Like, you talk about a puck-moving defenseman. Like, rudimentary plays seem to be a challenge for him in the neutral zone. Like a 15-foot pass, it's just, I don't know.

It's very frustrating to watch. So wasn't he with McAvoy in Boston? I don't know. No, they were both right shot. He was playing a bunch with different people. He moved around. You played with Charra at one point? That would make you look pretty good.

Yeah, it does help. But listen, yeah, that's a pretty big deal. And when I look at the four group for the Leafs, and obviously not all of them, but it's not just about making the pass. It's about the timing of the past. You know, and O'Dag, you know that, like, you want the puck in a certain place at a certain time.

And, you know, that's what makes guys like, you know, Quinn Hughes so special, Macar, Bouchard. Like, these guys, they get it too flat, but they get it to when you want it. And that makes a big difference. I look at those leaps forwards. And sometimes I feel like, man, I wish you had got that puck two beats earlier, right?

And, you know, I can't say the exact play, but I just, I see it, I know as a D because I was that guy throwing it either a bad pass or throwing it behind them or not when they wanted it. And they're like, maybe slamming their sticks. Like, I'm trying to get it to you. But it does make a difference when a player gets a puck, I think, O'Dog.

And you can maybe speak to it a bit more than I guess. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's a big part. of it's a transition game right like you got to hit guys in stride well no kidding like i i just love that like puck moving defenseman like talking about that like it's some it's the n hl man it's the n hl you've got to be able to make a 20 foot pass to a guy that's flying sometimes you got to make it through a guy cross-ice saucer like to to have that a skill set that is such a luxury i don't know i thought it was one of the standard things playing in the big leagues make a tape to tape pass

But everyone's different, no, dog. Everyone's different. Everyone's got their own skill set. Some guys excel at that. You know, you think about... I get it, Jason. You weren't exactly a playmaker, but I know you could make it 20-foot past to somebody. Well, I could, but, like, was it right where they wanted?

And there's an art to it. I think there's a fore and I get it. You're at the other end and screaming at the DMend to pass it to you. But, you know, we're trying to get it to you. Like, we don't want to have it on her stick that long. We want to move it up, but there's an art form to it. And the guys who do it really well, I do really appreciate them. And I think forwards do as well because they know they're getting that on the tape when they want it and how they want it.

And that's not easy to deliver all the time. Well, and it's not easy to find, right? The guys that can do it at an elite level, that's the real thing with the Leafs. So I think your analysis is spot on, Strud. Like, they've got to turn over some of this defense, but they're committed to a lot of them, all of them, right? All of them have at least a year left. And there's just not a lot of movement in the league. You know, there just aren't a lot of trades.

It's like, by all accounts, Tree Living was in on Ross Miss Anderson, didn't get them. You know, in on different guys. Okay, Dougie Hamilton's out there. We've heard that for two weeks. Is he traded yet? No. No one's calling or no one has the flexibility or no one has that type of, like, aggressive attitude. Like, we're going to give it a shot.

We're going to gamble. That's part of what the least might have to do too. And it may go wrong. What they have to do, Brian, up front, they really have to look at. And it's a common theme and it's not too hard to figure out. They have a bunch of a lot of wonderful. dimensional forwards that are eight and nine goal scores. And they're taking a chunk out of the salary cap.

So you've got to shred as many of them as you can. I don't know what the hell you're going to do with them, but you can't have five-eight guys that just yarn crooks and Robertsons and eight goal scores chewing up any kind of salary cap. Can't have it. There's too many of them. Yeah. There's a lot of them that play somewhat of a similar game.

Micelli's another one. Micelli, domi, obviously. like Domi, Machelli, Robertson, Yarn, Kroke, Cowan, they're all kind of in the same world. You know, different skill sets and all that, but not much different, and they're all kind of in the same world.

All right, Strut. Well, leaf soilers tomorrow night. It's going to be a barn burner there. I'm sure you're looking forward to it. How many leaf fans would you expect to be in attendance tomorrow? Oh, there'll be lots of people that make mistakes and cheer for the leaves, right? There'll be lots in a minute. Honestly, it creates a great environment. Like, it's going to be rocked in there.

And I think it's going to be fun. It's fun. Like, the leaves travel well. The halves travel well, right? The fans. And I think it brings more emotion because as a home team, you're like, I don't want these guys cheering in my own building. So you're going to try to bring a little extra juice.

So I think it always tightens the intensity of the games. I actually, I hated it, but I appreciate it. Yeah. That makes sense. It'll be fun. Tonight and Calgary tomorrow on Evanton. It'll be a blast. All right, Stret.

We'll do it again soon. Thanks for doing this. Yeah, good luck to the Leaf. It's just, we need more. because it's not fun to chirp them. It's just not. I need them going. I will try our best.

I hope they find a way to do that for you. Thank you, Struddy. Jason Strudwick joining us here on the Maple Toyota hotline. It's time the Toyota and the 2025 Prius. Go up to 72 kilometers on battery alone and seamlessly switch to hybrid mode. Check it out at Maple Toyota right near Canada's Wonderland of the Maple Automol.

All right. Jonas, you have a list that people have been... Yep, it's ready. very, very interested in. Do you think you guys will get a statue outside here? It's not a TSN? Are you kidding me, man? Doubtful. Very doubtful.

But, I don't know. Maybe you give us another 10, 15 years. It's possible. Never know. You never know, as noodles might say. I think we'd be on a short list. Dude, there's not a statue of Lloyd Robertson outside. They're not putting a statue of us.

Probably not. Legends Row. Legends Row? there's been some great people coming from CTV and TSN. I can't imagine we'd be in the initial Reveal. If there's Legends

Roe, they got to do you as the monster with the headset with the headset with just looking like this. Yeah, my original day one day one clip. Yeah, that one's probably worthy of it. All right. Best bet still to come a little bit later in the hour. Jonas, with a leaf list

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The MPHL playoff race tightens as the push begins February 13th. In the north, the Iron Man and Blitz are fighting for positioning. In the south, the Killer Bees, Jets, Irish, and Bluebirds battle through a crowded standing. Every shift now carries playoff weight. All right, this is my playlist for the whole flight out to San Francisco, Bad Bunny, prepping for the Super Bowl. Can't wait. Dude, I've never heard that song in my life.

There are better songs than that. JP didn't pick the best. JP really jammed you up. Yeah, a big proponent of Bad Bunny. Well, could I tell you what the songs are called in English? I could not, but I will learn. I don't get it, though. This is a big-time risk going with Bad Bunny.

If this guy doesn't hit a home run, people are going to destroy him. Why do you think it's a risk? Like, is it better to trot out the 80-year-old Rolling Stones again? Yes, get the stones out. No, no. I've had enough for that stuff. I think, listen, he's a young guy. He's going to put on an entertainer show.

He's hugely popular. And because, again, I say he's a young guy, that means he's probably going to have like a crazy choreograph, I would assume, you know, set and all that kind of stuff. That's the problem. You go to the old school rock guy. It's basically just him standing there and not doing it. anything but singlet lip-syncing at that.

You guys have a favorite half-time show of all-time? Yeah, just like one that comes to mind. Paul McCartney for me in Jacksonville. It's a great one. I remember that, actually. It was unbelievable. Well, he was there, which is amazing. Like, you're lucky you were there.

No, I was kidding. I didn't lend Joe. I know. You thought it was awful. I wanted to see, I wanted to see Brianna or something like that. This guy was on a piano the whole time, and I was just like, was there and I didn't I didn't dig it I did not dig it well and we've had that conversation many

times I think that's remarkably ignorant why because experiences in life dude I like let me give an example just because you're just because you're there yeah first of all not wanting a statue for kawai is a it has nothing to do with this current conversation okay but I was there I just it wasn't for me I took in the experience you're allowed to not kind of dig something I I get it But that was never my point that you had to enjoy the music necessarily. It's that you're taking in history. Like you're one of the very few people on Earth lucky enough to say, I have seen Paul McCartney live.

Like, I'll give you an example. I think there's a lot of people who have done that, no? How many? How many years? Well, 60 years or whatever. 65 years. I know, but it's still like a lot, like how many people do you think have seen him live? A lot.

Hundreds of thousands? Millions. There's no way that. Are you brain dead? Millions of people still alive today that have seen him like. Millions? Yes. You guys are so stupid.

Dugie. Google how many people have seen Paul McCartney live? You can't Google. Again, you can't include like Met Stadium in 1965. Why? Because they're not alive anymore. A lot of people aren't like, that's my point. I'm saying like people that are currently alive that have seen him.

It's still millions. I doubt it's millions. It's not plural. okay no it's not yes he does a show in front of 10,000 people

he's not too shows in front of 10,000 people sure he's doing a lot of intimate this guy fills wembley he fills wembley stadium that's 80,000 per millions do you know how many times

you got to play that 10 and do you know how many people probably go and see them all the time you know what I mean like it's not recurring that's fair

you gotta have new people in there again again it's against the point it's not about that necessarily it's that you get to say I've seen Paul McCartney play live that's an incredible luxury to have you don't have an appreciation for that

it doesn't impress me let me ask you this question Paul McCartney you and Paul McCartney you and Paul McCartney he's sitting right here or a bad bunny in you which one are you choosing? That's a great question

like today right now how old is Paul McCartney is he 80 or so I'll take bad money that is such a disgusting answer Hang on a second. That's so crazy to say that. I'd like to welcome to the show. Our crack staff producer, Doogie?

Do you have any information for us, Doogie? I have some numbers here, fellas. Combining the Beatles, Wings, and Solo Tours, 15 to 25 million tickets sold over 60 years of concerts. Again, tickets, yes, I hear you. The Beatles were playing 60 years ago, dude. Chop it in half. And a lot of people would have, like,

there'd be groupies and stuff. There would be following them around. watching them multiple times. You think it's like... Chop it in half. It's a 30 million. I'll give you a few million. Fine.

Few million people on her... And you're one of the lucky few million. What's your point? He should feel grateful? Yes. Oh. It's like watching Tiger Woods play live. People go to the Leaf game.

They're like, I'm grateful to go to the game. But you know what? They stunk that night. That's the bottom line. Okay. Again, let me use an example that I... I was lucky enough. A couple years ago, I went to the Masters.

I saw Tiger Woods play. He was terrible. He literally finished dead last. Right. That's a tough one. I'm a great. That was my McCartney. Yes. And do you know how fortunate? I get to say

I watched Tiger Woods live. From me to you, I saw him put the peg in the ground. I know, but you saw like the worst version of him. I don't care. I get to say I physically watch Tiger Woods play golf. That's amazing. It's the same thing with McCarthy Paul McCartney

playing the suit, playing any music. Acapello, it doesn't matter. You're like, wow, that's an incredible luxury I have. You guys are just idiots. Someone is going to be impressed when you're like, I saw Tiger Woods and they're like, when? I was a couple years ago when he could barely move. Yes. You're like really cool.

That must have been amazing. It was amazing. I saw him hit a golf ball. I saw him live. I saw him get up and down on nine, which was incredible. I saw him putt. Get up and down on 18 on the Friday, which was unbelievable. The weekend wasn't so good.

Anyway, you get a list, Jonas. What is your list? I like this conversation better. You guys are so stupid. Honestly, you're a waste of space today. So I'm embarrassed to be on the program. No culture. The two of you.

You didn't know. No depth. No culture. You don't know any bad bunny songs and I have no culture? Yeah, that's modern. I listen to Paul McCartney. I like wings. You just said you would turn down a McCartney live.

It's still playing a piano. All right, anyway. Continue, Jonas. What is the list even composed of? I don't even know what you're doing here. I know. That's part of the plan. Okay.

Yeah. So the list today. We have to talk some leaves because why not? So obviously there are big decisions right now for the team and for the head of the team, Keith Pelly. So I have three big decisions. It's interesting you consider him the head of the team. Who is the head of the team?

I guess if you're going above the GM, wouldn't it be the owner? Isn't it Ed Rogers that technically would be? I guess that's his boss. Yeah. Anyway, okay, let's stick with. Three big decisions. What did you write about Keith Pelley today as well? Did you, what was your piece about?

That they need to get their leadership structure. in order because this leadership structure doesn't work. That doesn't include him. That does include him. I mean, the point was they removed Brendan Shanahan. They didn't replace Brendan Shanahan. And clearly, it does not work as well based on the results that we have. Okay. That's a Cliff's notes. I got you. Okay. Three things they have to do. So I think we have to start from the top. Like, this is going to go top down. The first thing is like, what is your front office? Who is going to be your GM? Are you going to hire a president? I think that's like, going to be, if the season proceeds as we seem to think it will and they miss the playoffs,

that's all we're going to be talking about when the season ends. Like, what are they doing with the front office? Are they bring back to your living? If they are, are they hiring a president? If they are, who is that president? That's number one. They're going to have to figure that out. And then, like, part of that conversation is, like, what is the plan to our earlier conversation?

Like, where is this team going? Do you have the people in place to execute that plan? That's number one. Yeah. I will say the, I never thought I would like this quickly be thinking, man, it might be important to have like a president in there. Yeah. I always looked at that role as somewhat useless, you know, at times, like it's meaningful in moments. Like it, around big trades, big signings, big directional shifts you might make, which is obviously when you would want.

Or might not make. Or might not make. And then I'm sure there are other times where it's like, what exactly does that guy do? You know, if the GM's doing the grunt work on different stuff, what is a problem? president of hockey ops or the president period, what are they doing? I don't know. But it does seem like it's a quick

kind of acknowledgement of the importance of possibly having that. Like one more big shooter in a room. Especially when you remove it and there's just no one there. Well, or Pete Pelley is there. Pete Pelley is there and like Pelley, if you look at his history, like he ran the European golf tour. He was an executive at Bell and Rogers

and that's the person who is there instead of Shannon. And now like you look back like at that decade and it's like It was a pretty good decade. Like, obviously the playoff success completely lacking. But for 10 years, they were one of the best teams in the playoffs every year. Yeah. And Keith Pelly has said on the record, like, he is involved in what's going on.

Is that good? He talks to Tree Living. He talks to Barube all the time. Like, he's talking to the coach. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It would be like, imagine Keith Pelly came to you and he was like, and Jeff, like,

I don't know that your analysis on this was exactly right. You'd be like, what? I would say why, because you won the Ryder Cup. You know about my analysis? Go stuff it. Or go hire Monty and possibly he factors into the whole thing. There you go. Rider Cup.

Director of hockey operations, Colin Montgomery. I need Monty involved in the Leafs. If he got Monty involved as a head scout, imagine Monty at the World Jude. Monty just bombing around in a maple leaf quarter zip Grinscruing everybody Grin screwing every scout at the world juniors I would make my life

Yeah I would put a lot of money on the leaves Moving in the right direction if that happened Yeah all right number two So once you get your front office obviously Then that front office is going to have to decide Do you have the right coach And like I think that's going to be a really interesting conversation for them because we know Keith Pelley is a fan.

You can look at Berube's track record in two different ways. You could be like, wow, the first year, they won the Atlantic. They almost beat Florida, almost, quotations. Game seven, yeah. Yeah, well. But further than any other coach since Pat Quinn. Yeah, yeah, okay. For whatever that's a fact, I know, I understand.

This season has been not good on any level. So I think it's like going to be a really interesting decision. If they bring in a new GM, new president, you would think you just, start fresh, don't you, Jeff? You just, you start anew and you get this in order? Because, like, one of the things that's happened here for forever is, like, you've had a coach come in, and then the GM changes, and then the GM's like, well, that's not my coach. So they bring in a different coach, and then the GM gets fired or leaves or whatever that happens,

and then he's got a coach that he didn't hire. Like, it's been that way forever. You know what I mean? Yeah. Until, I guess, Tree Living hired Barubei. But before that, he inherited Keith, and Keith was a dubus hire after he inherited Babcock and so on, and et cetera. Yeah, I mean, I think if you're going to, if they're making, like, massive changes. If the front office is changing, if it gets to that point, then I would be surprised if the coach didn't change too.

And, you know, let's be clear here, this is a season. If it continues to fall off, you're going to have that chat in Winnipeg. You're going to have that chat, maybe in Nashville. You know, maybe in St. Louis, like there's, St. Louis was a playoff team. They've fallen up. Look at Nashville. Like today it came out, Barry Trots is stepping down as the GM. Not immediately.

He's going to wait for the successor. Did he come out with any reasoning other than, like, did he say it's because the team is just not doing well? It feels like the old, hey, we'd rather not embarrass you, gas you. Yeah, I know. And especially considering he's going to be the GM threat the rest of the season. That's so bizarre. I think Barry would tell you it's like fair is fair man like you give it a wheel at something like give it a rip and it doesn't work like that's the cost of doing business.

It's like someone just keeps looking at you and says keep doing what you're doing, keep going. It didn't work. So exactly. Exactly. And like it happened. Like we just saw it with Mike Tomlin. And I think Tomlin likely factored in more to him just saying I want to leave or take some time off. but Pittsburgh might have been pushing in that direction

and need some change. And if you have a lot of immense respect for a guy like dealers do for Tomlin, Preds do for Barry Trots, you allow him to say, I'm stepping down as opposed to the harsh reality of being fired. But that doesn't

apply to this, but again, if the Leafs are bottom 7, 8 in the league, then the coach is going to be under the microscope. He has to be. Yeah, of course. I mean, that's natural. But I can just see a situation where Pelley is a says, well, we had all these injuries. The season before was better. We're going to bring him back.

Well, and I think the last 27 games will factor into that significantly. In other words, should they? Like, if they miss the playoffs and they have a great 20. Not a matter of whether it should or not. It's just a matter of will it happen? I'm saying if you're the leaves, like we talked about it last week, let's say they keep their head above water, miss the playoffs by four points,

finished with 90 points on the season. I could definitely see them selling it to themselves, which is all that matters. It doesn't matter what we think. To themselves, Stollars is healthy this year. We're in the playoffs. Matthews has a better start. Tannab isn't hurt.

We're in the playoffs. Yep. You know? So that option is still definitely on the table. That's why these final 27 games I think are going to factor in significantly. And so number three, we can get too quickly because we talked about it already. Then you've got to start deciding what the roster is going to be. be next year because like I started

sketching it out I was like should that guy be here should that guy be here and so we touched on the defense like how are you going to fix the defense the gold heading I think like you brought it up I don't know what you would do like can you trade like hypothetically do you think you can trade Stolar's starting

a four year contract with his history yes and if you think so just based on like how low the numbers desperation I think on desperation throughout the league for a team that needs a save I think you can Okay. Yeah, I mean, listen, he's 31.

32. Prior to this year, the previous two years, he was great. But he doesn't play very much. He's going to give you 30 to 35 games. Is he? Well, I mean, last year he did. 20 to, I mean, he's going to, how many games he's going to play this year? 20-something?

Yeah, I mean, we'll see. He's not playing tonight. Between the two of them, they're barely giving you 82. Yeah, this year's a right-off, for sure. But that's what I mean. Like, if I'm another team, I think Jeff's probably right, but like, if I'm another team, it's like, I guess. this guy could be my 25, 30 game backup?

I think that position in particular, there's a lot of teams that are like, we desperately need something. You know what I mean? And I'm not going to, I don't know what that example is right now. I'd have to look at the teams that are kind of just out or whatever, but like Philly,

Philly needs goaltending. Is there any scenario where you're not keeping wall? No, I would put him on the table possibly too. I mean, I think it would depend on what the best packages you're getting back, too. Because I think Wall is just a, he's a good goalie. Yeah, and I think that's what he's going to be. A good goalie that starts maybe 40 games, and he's going to have some ups and downs, and that's what he is.

He's a good goalie in the league. So I don't know what that's worth, but I don't see superstardom in his future, but I also don't think he's just going to collapse or anything. I think he's a good goal. I'm just thinking if I could have a combination of two, and I'm picking, I think I'd pick Woll Hilderby. Wouldn't you?

They're younger, cheaper. It's recency bias involved in that decision. You're so true, right. Of what's happened with Stolars this season. But it's like, I guess you know what? You're the guy I want to park. You're right. But if I went into next season, I was like, my goalies are Stolars and Hildobe.

They'd be like, man, how many games am I going to get out of Stolars? That's a dangerous game. Dude, it's like you need to stack all three. them together to get an 82 game season. Right. Yeah. You literally do. You might. You might. And I don't know how they figure that out or if it's even possible to do that.

All right. Okay, I guess that mulligan on Paul McCartney and how many people have seen them live. I get on that. Millions of people. Still alive today. I've seen them live. Millions of people, my bad. But a lot of conflicting reviews of our conversation here. A lot of people support me. A lot of people support me. About what?

Just the significance of history and like a legacy person. Insane. And seeing them, you know, work on their craft, like Tiger, like Paul McCartney, what have you. But then I'm also getting a lot of pushback saying, Hayes, you're a complete loser, which is unnecessary. That's a lot of what I'm getting. Like, calling me an idiot is one thing. The loser is probably unnecessary. You'd be, like, proud if you saw like 90.

Like if Tiger Woods hit a drive and then looked at you and said, put your phone away, you punk-ass loser, would you go home and be like, Yeah, I saw Tiger Woods play. Yeah, I would. No, you wouldn't. Dude, you wouldn't love seeing Tiger. You wouldn't go watch Tiger Woods hit out of golf range right now by yourself? Like, be honest. If Tiger said you can come, I'm just, I'm hitting wedges.

Or you would sit there and be an awe of that cat. Dude, that's not the individual experience you had. It's like my experience watching Paul McCartney. Like, Dugie, like, JP, play some Paul McCartney at the Super Bowl, even video coming in so I can re- So I can refresh what it was like. I can imagine what the set list was. I got a pretty good idea. Maybe I'm amazed.

Play some of it coming in. All right. I want to see it. All right. We will. All right. Best bet's coming up at Paul McCartney at the Super Bowl. Overdrive continues.

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The MPHL playoff race titans as the push begins February 13th. In the north, the Ironman and Blitz are fighting for positioning. In the south, the Killer Bees, Jets, Irish, and Bluebirds battle through a crowded standing. Every shift now carries playoff weight. That is outstanding stuff, dude. Dude, I had a hundred bucks sodas and I'm like, Baby, you can drive my car. Johnis, are you with me on that?

You're like, first Super Bowl. 100%. Greatest, like, greatest guys weekend of my life. Sawgrass, Super Bowl, sawgrass. And then it was like Paul McCarty. I'm like, that was the... I got you. I hear you.

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But then that, you know, Punksetani Phil said not early spring. So I don't know what to make of it. You know, two different groundhog saw two different things. I'm going with the Canadian guy, though. Wiredton Willie, he said early spring. So take that for what it's worth. Do you pay homage to that? I'm just thinking about the movie.

I'm just, is it Phil? Bill Connors? Bill Connors. Bill. Brownhog Day. Yeah. Phil. All right.

Well, we're off tomorrow because we're going to be up, you know, searching for O's Teeth on Air Canada flight to San Francisco. But Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, live from the Super Bowl. Yes. Cannot wait. Jonas, great seeing you as always. Have fun, boys. Thanks to everyone behind the scenes for helping out. We appreciate it.

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