OverDrive - OverDrive - February 3, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the massive deal with Luka Doncic to the Lakers for Anthony Davis, the impact for the teams and the Mavericks' outlook of the team. They also discuss the Maple Leafs' victory against the Oilers, Joseph Woll's big performance in the game, the Canadiens starting to slip in the Eastern Conference and Patrik Laine's decreased production.

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from the opening line to the final score. All right, here we go, Overdrive. Off and running, TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker, and up, TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker and up on TSN4, Brian Hazy, O'Dog, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McClennan. What's going on? What's going on? Lots of activity out in the sports world, Hazy B. One particular item, you must have looked at it and said that guy's punking me right now with that transaction.

That guy is punking me with that transaction. I know what it is. Which one? Which one do you think? Dallas? Luca Tancic traded to the Lakers. Alright, okay. I thought you were going to say the underwhelming package going back to Vancouver for JT Miller But we'll get to that a little bit later on That's all I scored last night if you're talking about he don't do it

I'm got you looks great a couple of assists I believe his first game too in a loss over the weekend, but yeah, I I do the hockey thing Saturday and Sunday and Sunday was a 7 a.m. Game we had so I'm on the ice with my youngest daughter We're out there. Everyone's having a good time. Are you the assistant coach? I'm an on ice helper That's that's you push box around. Yeah, I'm a box around you have to wear a bucket. Yeah, of course You gotta wear a helmet. Absolutely Helmet no cage no visor though. Right? That's all good. So it's kind of an NHL vibe. I get out there, no chin strap and then I realize

I better put that on. What am I doing? I'm 41, there's kids here. Stop being a loser. You know what I do do? And I actually, I should have asked you guys for this advice a long time ago. Just before you get to this question, is there any hero dads that are like, I'm not wearing a bucket? No, everyone wears a helmet. Everyone's amazing. They're all great guys. But okay, I got to before you get to this question is there any hero dads that are like i'm not wearing a bucket no everyone was out of it and i was amazing they're all great guys i can't get a pose is to before i get to the looping about what happened to me at

six fifteen a m on sunday i have been wearing the prospects game quarters that brings a lot windbreaker yes game like quarter zip or zip up? Windbreaker. Yes. Is that a hero move for me to wear like the OHL or CHL prospects? Absolutely not. Okay, good. I didn't think so.

Like if it was me, I think if it was me or Noodles, maybe if you went out there with a Barry Colt like full Winsuit, people would be like, this this guy relax like nobody cares right if noodles went out there with a New York Islanders like we coach thing I are made with a leaf gear I think people would say dude, you don't have to yeah, we get it. No play the NHL I will I will be honest and I was gonna say this all the track suits I have was when I coached in Calgary, When I've gone on the ice with my son, I do wear a flames. That's all I have. I have one TSN tracksuit, but I can't find the pants.

It's black and it says the flames. I wear a helmet, although I've been on unsanctioned ice. I think it's like Cujo's old house or whatever out there you don't need to wear a bucket because it's like a three-quarter ice and i don't know the whole rules of all of this okay but i i do wear you're skating around the hot it's better for the kids like if you say kid pay attention here if you got a calgary flame logo it's better than like burlington blizzard

ramblay right exactly It's better than like Burlington Blizzard Red Blades. Right, exactly. Listen, their head coach is Mike Kamillari. He's a lot better player than I ever was. I still. And he, you know, he doesn't wear all of this. Cammie was a Flame. You guys should both wear Flames gears. That would actually be amazing.

Flames coaching staff. I like Cammie. No, Cammie played for the Flames when I was on the staff. No kidding. I know that. That's what I'm saying. Like both of you were Flames, so you could both wear the Flames when I was on the staff. No kidding. I know that. That's what I'm saying. Like both of you were Flames, so you could both wear the alumni jacket out there and it would be all good.

But, okay, I'm glad I clarified that because I've been wearing the prospects game thing and like I don't know if it's necessary. Maybe some of the other guys are like, what are you doing? That's not really needed. Anyway, so it's 6.15 a.m. I'm trying to get my daughter up. You know how it is. It's dark.

It's freezing outside. I'm trying to warm up the car and I have two seconds to look at my phone and I look at my phone and my first thought was I'm on that stupid for you tab and this isn't a real account. I see the Shams Charani tweet breaking, Luka Donchich traded. I'm like obviously this is fake. I click on it thinking this guy is going to have 2800 followers. Instead he's got 5 million or whatever it is. I'm like oh my God this is fake. I click on it thinking this guy's gonna have 2800 followers. Instead he's got 5 million or whatever it is. I'm like, oh my God, this is actually happening.

Then I launch into a conversation with my five and a half year old about the significance of the trade at 615 in the morning. And she's like, I don't care. Get me a granola bar please, we have to go to the rink. So we had a little back and forth around the kitchen table at 615 on on Sunday morning

And it was astonishing and another thought I had was this is why woe's retired and set him out I'm not doing this on a Saturday night at 2 in the morning I'm not going on Sports Center on ESPN at 330, you know Eastern time the breakdown details woe's said I'm out. The real winner was woe's right? Adrian Wojnarowski said I'm out of here, I'm not doing this anymore. That guy retired because those guys were up all night. Brian Windhorst was one of them. Wendy's coming up with us at 530, looking forward to catching up with him. But, uh, wow, what a transaction. And Luca with the Lakers just seems to make sense, doesn't it? Like it just kind of feels appropriate that Luca's gonna be primetime and go Hollywood doesn't it seem to you Luca going to the

Lakers that LeBron is not far from done like to me it signals he's like maybe this year he packs it in because I don't know how two of those guys exist coexist well exactly I'm glad you brought that up because that that's always a part of it anything that happens in the NBA for 20 years has been about LeBron in some capacity someone competing with LeBron someone trying to be with LeBron someone trying to beat LeBron whatever it is and here's a scenario where allegedly the Mavericks and the Lakers go stealth mode and make a blockbuster historical trade and LeBron either doesn't know about it or they don't care his opinion on it

like that's a real significant historical moment the power of the brawn in the presence of the brawn doesn't really matter as much anymore and uh... it's it's lucas team now for the next decade you would presume and the brawn and brawny and whoever else they're gonna have to either play along with the gap to leave that's how i got out of the rick's gm setting this press or he's like

me and kid you know we're we're aligned but he didn't even know about this house site you've got to stop jason kidd i want to get up because we're going to get our lined on everything else you didn't know about this deal though until i told him right at the last second i was like what the hell are you talking about man? I don't know about that strategy I think there's obviously pros and cons to zeroing in on one team and keeping it very tight-lipped because if

you don't you're bringing in agents you're bringing in the commissioner you're bringing in all kinds of X factors that factor in and could botch the deal could sway the deal But for Luca man zeroing in and everybody's a lot of people are gung-ho on the Mavs now They're like I got the Mavs coming out of the West and this and that now they're the best team in the West They traded for a guy that never plays. I haven't seen that been brought up once the guy never plays Yeah, is that the this is what I was laughing about this afternoon. The belief is the reason they soured on Luca is because of his conditioning and the fact that he's heard a lot and they wouldn't have got street clothes. The original man, that guy's great but he doesn't play, is Anthony Davis. That's the original man that guy's great, but he doesn't play as Anthony Davis

That's the original guy of man Is he unbelievable and if he had that Ben Simmons kind of invented the well Simmons came up? He's no good, but but exactly I mean the thing is Davis is having a very good year I think he's played in 42 games which for him and for the NBA is is a lot Considering the Lakers have played I think 48 or 49 and he's a great player like that is he is taking shrapnel here right because Luca is so great and he's young and he's dynamic when Anthony Davis is in the mood to play in place he is a top 10 player in the league as well he's a

phenomenal player and they got him and Kyrie and Klay Thompson's down there and I think a lot of people are looking at it and they don't trust Oklahoma City, right? They don't trust what Shea Gilder's Alexander and the Thunder are doing. They look at Denver and they think, okay, Jokic can't do it on his own and maybe it's wide open, let's go for it. The much more compelling story for me long term obviously is Luka, the Lakers, LeBron, but it is pretty amazing.

I think every sports fan can put themselves in this position. If you're a Mavericks fan, man, your heart's just broken. Like the guy... Yeah, but dude, think about it this way. That guy was... Like there was people, they had a coffin out front of the Dallas building there. Right. Exactly.

They were pissed. They were like, yeah. They're so pissed off. This guy's supposed to have a statue out here. He took your team to the finals when the reports are coming out of the concern of the conditioning like that means that this guy literally just said check please on all that stuff

yeah like you can hear us on the bench i i don't know but when it comes out that much like there are other than who knows because people start slinging mud. There was word he was upwards around three bills. Can I just point out how veteran the move is by Luca to pull in at nightfall in a black on black tracksuit when people are concerned about your conditioning? Dude, if he had a tight white one on with his little mini boiler hanging out. It's such a bad move. Oh yeah. dude he had a tight white one on with his little mini boiler hanging out

it's such an alleyway oh yeah black on black in the middle of the night you look spell and i'll put up the so good put up you can't see the cheeks yes madly good somewhat there was a designer on that flight sent try this on you try that off standing about is there anyone else that's what are those, like the Lululemon, like the belt around, like for the man. But for an organization to look at a talent like that and decide to move on from it, that's some scary stuff. So that must have been scary as far as what he was doing conditioning wise.

It takes a lot of stones and you know what this is going to do, again it doesn't guarantee anything on either side in terms of winning in the end it doesn't guarantee the mavericks are going to win it doesn't guarantee the lakers are going to win again i think you can apply every sport to this there's certainly a toronto connection to it is from a fan base is perspective in a reaction to a deal like this

are you in love with the superstar or you in love with the team or are you in love with the team? Are you obsessed with having the superstar and everything that he represents or they represent or are you obsessed with winning? Because that is what I think is at the core of this and again it doesn't I don't have an answer on whether they'll be right or wrong. I don't know but if you're a Mavericks fan I'm sure there's a lot of comfort in Luca. He loves being a Mav, he loves Dallas, he's an all-time great player already

He's 25. He wants to be there forever first team all NBA. It's a lot of comfort in that He brought him to an NBA final last year They went to a conference final three years ago when he plays he's a phenom There's a lot of comfort in that what the GM is saying and I guess by extension the owner is I'm willing to lose that Because I want to be obsessed with is I'm willing to lose that because I want to be obsessed with winning. I want to win a championship. What is more valuable to the average fan?

That pursuit and everything that comes with it which can be very ruthless. It can lead to very difficult decisions. Again, talk to Colorado, Mico Ranfana. We love you man but it's not going to work for our plan to win. Fans aren't happy in Colorado, they're not happy in Dallas. But you know the deal, Brian. If you don't win and things go off kilter and you get pumped in the first round a couple times, people are going to be like, okay smarty pants, what on earth are you doing? Absolutely. And especially if the guy goes

somewhere else and flourishes. If he goes to LA and just brings them a championship or something like that, then people in Dallas are going, what are we doing here? 25-year-old superstar that you trade. But again, behind the curtain, they see something we don't. That's basically, and they said enough with this guy. We're moving on. But is it enough though?

That's the reading online, the hall getting back. Street closed, like was it a, did the Dallas get a knock back? It's tough to say, because yeah, they got Anthony Davis and you know, you got a first rounder in 2029, I believe it was. Davis is worth a lot, clearly, he's not worth nearly as much as Luca, but that also speaks to the fascination of this deal that it wasn't an auction. They went stealth and like the mask

for the Lakers exactly and said we only want Davis, we only want this deal effectively. Are you willing to do it? The Lakers I guess sat on it for a while and said fine we'll do it. Which again is astonishing because you have a player of this value. Truly one of the, like I was trying to think about like athletes in pro sports that would meet the shock value of I can't believe they traded him, right? And the obvious ones are Mahomes and McDavid and Otani and all, you know, we'll get to those guys. But like Lucas, prior to Saturday night would have been maybe in my top 10, top 15, you

know, like if you asked me to put a list together of all the pro sports all the athletes that I thought there's no way They'd ever trade him. He would have been very high on the list and and they did it and they only did it with one team They only made the call one team and like if you're the Raptors are you calling said? Why didn't you call us who would have given you everybody? There's teams in the league that would have given them anything five first round picks their superstar go the other way everything pick swaps Anything to get this guy and he just fell in the lap of the Lakers Is there collusion though?

like I see a lot of people a lot of people like Like are pissed at the league pissed at them going like that's a that's a back deal door where it's like We're gonna help you out where you're right like they could have got a lot more. That's what a rival GM would say Jamie they'd be like how is this possible where my package could have been three times of what they were just given by the Dallas Mavericks and they didn't even want to call and listen to me a small market team and who knows who that would be but that's where they'd be like, they wanted this guy in LA,

and they got him in LA. And that's where they're like, what the hell's going on here? Brian, do you have a list this week? You should put together a list of, in your mind, untouchables, top 10. And maybe at some point, those untouchables will get traded. God, Jamie, with this trade, how do you even write that list? It's like, no one's untouchable anymore.

I'm talking all sports, not just in basketball, but like there's some, you know, could Sidney Grosby get traded? You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, Sid, I think that ship has sailed now in terms of it being shocking, you know, it would be because you can make sense of it, right? Like this one, it's more about what is being seen or believed behind the scenes that the general public just couldn't ever possibly have access to.

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Asking after Lucas trade which other superstar would you? Team as you know the most shocking to be dealt Connor McDavid Patrick Mahomes Shohei Otani Nicole Yocach Like a vote for me. It would be my homes like my homes. I just Yeah, it's not possible. It's nothing it never I'm sorry nothing unless he demanded out There's no way the chiefs would ever wake up one day and say you know we're totally good You almost have to take him off the list. It's just not ever happening right and the other ones I

Can make I can make a case for, I mean, it would never happen, but I guess Jokic would be last on that list because this is proof that anything can happen in the NBA. You know, like maybe for whatever reason when Mignama becomes available, clearly they'd trade Jokic, I think. Shohei, I don't know, but he doesn't, you know, maybe, like maybe the Dodgers look at it and say, we got what we needed out of you, we think you're going to break down, we're going to move off you if someone else wants you. And McDavid, the only reason they'd ever think about it in Edmonton is if they were fearful

that he wasn't going to sign. Well, if he asked for it. If he asked for it, basically. He'd have to go to them and say, I'm not resigning here, guys, so if you want to capitalize, go ahead. That would be the only chance. So the magnitude of this trade, and we'll spin it into on Saturday night, but this would be McDavid to the Leafs, not anybody else, for a first-rounder and Matthew Nise.

Well, no. I mean, again, Anthony Davis is like a first ballad. Oh, sorry. Mitch Marner then, I guess. We goof on him a lot. Yeah, Mitch Marner then. But Davis is a great, great player. So it's not like Dallas literally gave him away. They got him. But yeah, I guess maybe some.

I don't even know if it really classifies like that because again, McDavid's different, he's better than Lucas, great as Lucas, McDavid's in a different category. Generation, yeah. But I don't know what the comparison would be. I don't know. It's crazy though. I mean,ale mccarr being traded for an older defenseman and picks. I don't I honestly Victor had one Maybe maybe that's it Kale mccarr for Victor had been in a first, you know, okay Yeah, headman's good great player plays though like that's yeah, but it's it's like how why would you take him a car? Like why would you ever trade kale mccarr?

What am I missing here? Bottom line is somebody decided in Dallas There's a whack of money come in his way and they just didn't want to give it to him end of story Yeah and I do think that could be what should be taken out of this and maybe it's applying again throughout the sports world that there's so much money at stake and that there's so much money at stake and player empowerment has taken steps over the last decade to the point where maybe you're getting ownership and management saying, we gotta put our foot down here

and push back a little bit. This is gonna be a monster that you're not gonna wanna deal with. Exactly, like what am I getting out of it? You know what I mean? Because again, we always look at it through the lens of, well, superstar, jersey sales, ticket sales, all that valuable, all of that means

something as well again i think nine eight out of ten owners nine out of ten maybe would say don't even think about it this guy's a cash cow for me and i'm gonna pay him a fortune but i'm gonna make it back as a monsport center every night because of him i'm going to the nba finals because of whatever it might be it's also maybe it's not as deep and you're looking at it

thinking how are you going to repay me? Are you going to repay me? Like I'm going to pay you hundreds of millions of dollars in terms of where we are with pro sports now. Are you going to repay me that? And kind of get the impression. A guy that just took his team to the finals. That's what makes this so hard to really wrap your head around is that Luca is just such a different beast. He's not over the hill, you know, it's not like he's never won. They just went to the finals last year. I wonder what the LeBron, like I don't know how these two are gonna get along, but I'm curious what the LeBron effect is gonna be on this guy because I think LeBron's

notorious. People say that he spends two million dollars a year in his body and I don't know I don't know if Luca looks at that and says yeah, I want to jump on board with that or that's just not for me It's one of two things What if I mean the other thing is is what if Bronnie's pushing his son be like hey Can you work with my son or play with them like to me? I think Bronnie'swnies out well that's a completely different story but you're not wrong that like you know LeBron what would be funny is if LeBron text them and say hey why don't we get together for a drink and he just shows up with brawny right yes and Luke is like oh brawny's here too okay yeah exactly mate brawny what's up man like is that that's gonna be awkward

in the future in terms of how LeBon wants to handle that the lakers etc now that it's luca's team everything revolves around him and brony's got to make sure that he fits whatever that mold is going to be in the future um but it is a it is a good point that this could trigger a response from luca that would be terrifying for the mavericks this this guy decides, all right, because really it's the only way you can actually insult a superstar player in today's game, right? Like they're always gonna get paid, they're always gonna get endorsements,

they're not being sent to the G League or the American League, you're not gonna bench them because your owner's gonna say I'm paying them a, you know, there's nothing, the ultimate insult, and really the only insult in pro sports today is what the Mavs did. Get out and then we're gonna leak that we don't, we don't think you're for real.

Like that's as insulting as you can be to a modern athlete, right? Is you gotta go for us to succeed and we don't like the way you basically operate, you know, the way that you represent yourself around here. That could trigger a crazy response Where he goes off and gets in shape and just wants to be a killer and add insult to injury He's with the Lakers didn't trade him the Washington or Orlando guy went to LA with the Lakers

He's gonna be in your face now for a decade in your face for a decade Just was that, crazy night. Like, you know, I still don't like this. The owners gotta be involved in that too, right? Well, of course. I mean, of course. For something of this stature on both sides,

the owners, that's the one thing you hear, like the GMs made sure to include them, right? Coaches didn't know, players didn't know know you better believe the owner was well aware of course they would have been Alright, we'll come back in and recap what else we saw over the weekend Including that that leaf game on Saturday night the Leafs are in Calgary tomorrow night Craig Conroy will join us in about 40 minutes, and I guess Mitch Marner didn't practice today It's uncertain if he'll play tomorrow night. Ekman Larsen was out today as well.

Uncertain if he'll play tomorrow. Try to get you an update on their status and what's going on with them. There was the trade in the NHL on Friday night. JT Miller ends up with New York. We'll touch on that. And Chris Johnston coming up. Brian Windhorst coming up. Overdrive continues.

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Powered by FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Craig Conroy in about a half an hour the leaser and uh... cowry tomorrow night and uh... mitch marner not practicing today all recommend larson not practicing today Craig Barube said he's uncertain uh... if they'll be available tomorrow night i'm not sure what happened marner plan the other night but uh... sickness maybe could be

yet could be it was a mate he said maintenance so it could have been that there's a lot of that going around like I don't know at home miss that game the other I think there's like teams are like pretty sick I know that Ottawa team had had to go through them I think two weeks ago and the team that they were playing against it just you hope that it gets you know gets through quick and everybody doesn't get hit by it I think right Jersey didn't Sheldon say wasn't that last week you know gets through quick and everybody doesn't get hit by the bigger and jersey didn't say sheldon say it was at last week he said like their their team was like guys were puking or was towards i think

towards first jersey same guys were puking before the game like just to get to the ice yes so all towards i can't wait till he gets a load of kuzmenko boy i know that kuzmenko's routine like i've seen it a million times here's he's a two-month guy here's what his routine is he shows up the first game he gets two goals yes funny comments after everyone's yucking it up yeah it's so funny it's so funny two months from that point

everyone in the organization wants them gone you watch that. That's two-monther. That guy will be there for two months of people dying to get rid of them. Yeah. 60 days of Kuzmenko. Oh, yeah. It's like a Netflix special.

Remember when Van was just fawning over that guy? Oh, you like lemon in your water? We're going to get you lemon for your water. You had 39 goals, though. I know. Trust me, two months after the 39th went in, they were like, we got to getth went in there like we got to get rid of this right? I know gotta get rid of this guy. Yeah, he's jumping around already Vancouver Calgary Philly Yeah, listen it happens. You know certain players get labeled right look at what's going on in Montreal now

They've lost five in a row Patrick line. I got benched. You know I told you last week There's people Montreal turning online a quicker than you've ever seen anyone turn on so did you think it wasn't coming something like who he is he's 29 years old or whatever he is 28 I know and they can only hope that it's just a small little blip on the screen and that he returns to Patrick line a the scoring working Patrick line a because that what they saw or they got benched last night, it shouldn't be a shock for anybody. They know that that's a possibility in his game.

It's just how quick can you snap them out of it if you can. I think the biggest thing too is people need to understand and reset their expectations. They went through a very poor start, injuries, all of that, and I thought they were a better team than they were when they started, but they overachieved during that crazy 13-2. Good luck with that in Montreal, as soon as they started ripping off... Listen, it's fine. Yeah, but people in Montreal are like, why not us? I understand that, and it's fine for a fan base to get excited, but you also have to X, you know have expectation Guli's injured now line is not playing well

They're playing a lot tougher teams, you know, like when you look at it like I I just think that they're they're they had their great run They're coming back to reset. They're gonna be a mid 80s team 80-point team, which is not bad playing meaningful hockey in Now it's February but at the end of the day i don't i think they're going to be exactly where we all believe that the star of the seas that's not a slight on them it's just it's no i think that's where they are if you i think you're right i think what it is is it it's the t's that uh... is so hard to have a lot of six rolling but you get your hopes up right because and they should have been a lot fire they went on those road trips out west they're beating Colorado

they're beating I think they beat Vegas in Vegas yeah they're on fire they're on fire Adobe shows up and he's stopping everything a Montebeau is gonna play for Canada and line a arrives and he's ripping home one timers you know and it it was an unbelievable month month and a half in your hopes get up and then all of a sudden they lose five in a row. And what have we been saying all year? You win five, you lose five, you're in trouble. And listen, the Leafs, that's why you look back on Saturday, they held on for dear life, but they needed that win, man.

You go up three nothing and then four one. You've got to get two points. Two things I want to say. Two things. I was wrong. There was more than 20 percent. Sorry. I was wrong. was more than twenty percent sorry haha i was not about cuz i saw it on twitter something happened on friday where i said

that they're all right now i tell noodles there's lots of lead there was but what i was saying and and but i was wrong and i'll admit it i said in canada the least represented team here on the road is in edmonton but you'll see more fans and calcine more than i was and when the least represented team here on the road is in edmonton but you'll see more fans and tell you more and i was and when the least plan to go to the building that is

the quietest of leap from the fast as far as compared to a lot of flight it was it was my buddy was there he's like it was thirty to thirty five percent and he said it was it was loud and they were chanting and going there are you know what any said it was a great like he goes it was a great game It it ended up good. It could have been seven nothing I I thought this was gonna be an ugly one like it kind of they were like started They won the game in the first ten minutes, and then they held on and then the second thing Joseph Wall was unbelievable Like unbelievable, but I thought he owed scoring chances at the end

Well, yeah, but the 26 scoring chances were 26 to 12. That was, he was unbelievable. I thought that was his best game of the season. 26? That seems extreme. I know that Oilers were all over them in the second period and down the stretch they certainly were. When they pulled the goalie and that last stop, I'm not sure it would have counted.

I don't think it would have. Well, you take it though. I count that as an unbelievable play. I think it's great. It's on Perry too, which makes it even better for Leaf fans, I think. And listen, John Klingberg goes offside like that. John Klingberg made up for everything over the last year and a half for Leaf fans. Sean Klingberg, what a weasel thing to happen, man. Three inches, completely irrelevant to the play. Again. I'm clingberg. What a guy goes off side thing to happen man three inches completely irrelevant to the play

Again, I got to be consistent. I hate that ruling. It's so stupid I think that on Saturday is another example of it. He had no bearing on anything and 45 seconds later the Leafs looked back and go. Oh, he was offside by two inches How old is he smart smart time out though to give yourself some time to look at it. At least video guys are the best in the league. They never miss, man. They've hit like 22 in a row or something. They do not miss.

That was obviously a big turning point. It's offside. At the end, yeah, it is offside for sure. That's the rule. The rule is what it is. It's in place for a reason. Klingberg was definitely offside, but they had to's the rule. The rule is what it is. It's in place for a reason. He, he, Klingberg was definitely offside. Um, but they had, they had to stop the bleeding. You know, you lost three in a row,

you're up three, nothing up for one at one point. Such a big game. You had to win. Well, Florida, Florida had won that day. Boston like everybody in Tampa, everybody had won Ottawa one, like everybody had won around them. It was such a massive game for them. To start that road trip the right way, now you're going into Calgary, now you're going into Seattle, now you're going to Vancouver.

Yes, on paper, those are different teams compared to Edmonton, but they needed that win. It was a massive, massive win for them. Big time. Yeah, and Joseph Wall, he really was big down the stretch there. He was really good. Those are big games. And he spoke with the crowd afterwards. He did say the crowd was great on both sides.

Leaf fans were loud, but Euler fans were loud with him. It was just an electric evening. Everyone on the Euler's is jabbing away at the 5 p.m. local. You saw Leon on the pregame show say anything for the Leafs as long as we're playing. And even the Leafs to their credit The social media team. I don't know if you guys saw it on, you know, Twitter and Instagram They were they were posting like 5 p.m. And oil country like they were all over I gotta let the fans know you gotta stop cuz I did it again

I sent out a little tweet and it was like all the Leaf fans cheering out there in Edmonton, I don't like that, that's oil country. You were trolling though. No I don't, but noodles, do you know how many Leaf fans wrote me and they said, you bastard, I thought you bled blue and white, why are you talking? But think of the response. I had to explain to one guy today and I said, sorry pal, that's just, that business is over your head, I can't, I'm too old and I don't have time to deal with you.

Because he was like, man, I thought this is what he said. He goes, I thought you would have known from playing out in Edmonton that there's a lot of Leaf fans there. And I just said, I don't, no way, man. No way, guys. It's just like, you know what it is. It's just, you can't even have fun with it or whatever. Because people just take it right, like so literally or so seriously.

Crazy. Instead of just going, hey, this is great gamesmanship. This is a great night. I talked to a few of my buddies that were at the game and they were Euler fans obviously, but it's like they were like, hey, it was awesome. Awesome atmosphere. I thought it was a great game. I thought it was a Saturday night.

I was thinking of doing a segment on Wednesday possibly with all of the movement in the NBA, the NHL draft for Doogie. I'm afraid to get Joe from the bridge involved. No, don't get him involved. He's a crazy person. But the segment could be called Who Says No. Usually when people propose trades it would be like, what about this guy for that guy and who says no?

So if Doogie could put together you know NHL trade deadline approaching possibly some NHL packages and we say who says no to that deal. Wow you got to put you got to let Joe from the bridge in on that then for sure. No because he gets stupid. He'll trade McDavid for this for Jerry Melkin. Yes. Future consideration. Yes. So consideration. Yes.

So he's got to work, he's possibly got to work with some inside, maybe we could have fan help with it. They could propose some deals, send them into Doogie and we have to say who would say no to that package. I like that idea. Well. I like that. I don't know.

I do. Well, I like it too. I just think that there's so many different possibilities. Do you have one in mind? Do you have anything that sparked this idea? This can go all kinds of different avenues. There are so many options for this. Here's an example.

Minnesota was just in Edmonton. What if Billy Garron and Stevie Stales ran into each other in the hallway and they said, we want our old goalie back Gustafson. You want to take Linus Allmark? Who says no? Allmark for Gustafson? Who says no first to that? Stevie Stahel said we would just this is just kind of the possibilities that I'm talking about they bump into each other in the hallway and Stevie said I want my old goalie back do you want Linus Allmark? Who would say no?

I think Stales would. Allmark's are scheduled to play. Right now I think Allmark would. Would he? I think Billy Garan would give him the Heisman and say no chance. So you think Billy Garan would say no, but you think Stales would say no. These are the possibilities. That's a great one.

That's a great one. He's been great this year That's a great one. He's been great this year. I mean he slowed down a little bit with the team, but they've been on fire the last week or so. They got pumped the other day. Wow. I mean Ottawa just destroyed them.

But I don't know. All-Mark, I mean you get All-Mark on term, you know, some cost certainty there, but I don't know. I think Bill Guerin would, I think he'd probably say no right now. I think he'd say no. Leafs like here's another example Leafs going after that high-profile third line center the other team all they want is Fraser Mitten who says no the Leafs depends on the player though well Scott Lawton what if Scott Lawton the flyer said we want Fraser Minton who's this year and next he's under team control

I think it is Scott Lawton Fraser Minton who says no Oh, I like I like I like both of them that man Philly wouldn't say no to that I don't think I mean it depending on how they feel about Minton right not everyone loves your prospects Maybe they look at him and they're like there's we don't we're not a huge fan like it doesn't mean they don't think he could develop Into something but Fraser Minton is not like a grade A prospect, right? Like that's not how he's perceived. He's not the next coming of, you know,

some superstar player, Patrice Bergeron or something like that. But at the same time, Philly, I think, has made it pretty clear they're looking to likely move off some contracts and they acknowledge they're not that good. Right, they're building towards the future so I'm not sure how Scott Lawton really fits in terms of what they're planning on doing so I think I think I think they both probably accept that deal I think

the Leafs would take that deal. Well, I don't know because they like Minton too so it's not a slight on him but lottons I think a lot is a really nice player He can go in your third three hole or slide up to the to the the second line center, too Like he's a nice player like I he's it that's an interesting one. Oh, you must have put some thought to this over the weekend Yeah, he's got all lined up lying. I've got different tentacles to this Okay, Bobby man Bobby man's laid this out and said there's 400 million I want you Jays and Vlad E to work this out for 400 million who says no Vlad E says no you think flat he would turn down 400 right now. I don't think he does

I don't think he I don't think he does. I know he might he might that's gambling Right that that's the ultimate like riverboat gambler, dude to say I'm I'm I'm actually gonna play it out So hope I get more than that. Okay, but here's my question if he plays it out. It has a mediocre season What's the worst he can do? 300-325 like 400 is 400 though and don't kid yourself. There's some Luca and bladdy work maybe that's what's been holding this up for years that's a great and i was a great compare that's right after what the j's in the back you

can tell the way she pyro speaks about him and there's some uncertainty about how he operates what he does what he represents the uncertainties like you can get very clear that the j's look at him very similarly to the way you know maybe dallas looked at lucas so i think it had i think what he would take for what he'd have to take for i think he'd be

it's a single world i think you want to buy it down i think he wants it like he is one of the ones so noodles but i understand he's a first baseman and eventually will be a full-time DH like that 400 million for that is absurd It's absurd absurd number and I'm a big proponent of keeping them and having them here. Don't get me wrong It's not me. That's another thing like the reaction to contract talk as If it's like a personal vendetta if you if you say well, I wouldn't give them that doesn't mean you don't like the player Right like we were talking about Marner on Friday, and I got so many people yelling at me and scream

What do you do? Why wouldn't you just give them this and that it's like it doesn't mean you don't like the player doesn't mean That you don't want them around but there has to be a limit like that's all it is It's the same thing with Vlad E. I'd love Vlad E to be here for a long time But if he's demanding 500 million and that's not gonna make sense for the jay's you can see why they'd say no i thought your takes on marna were very reasonable but you were just saying like not above matthews and then by the end you got johnny to admit it to like you know you are arguing

that all he was arguing with johnny i had a very actually flipped over and i thought that part of the independent and now you guys are agreeing with me that why did we yell for an hour i thought i was very rational but what people don't understand in that whole argument everyone's talking about how much money can marner get like what about the team philosophy like you just saw an organization move off of philosophy what about the idea of a bunch of guys four or five guys making

buku money and switching philosophies to having a couple other players at a different kind of money and shaping the team differently especially if it doesn't work again right like people just can't get it into their skulls that if it doesn't work again you still want to sink all the money into the same group of players? Well, that's what I was saying earlier. And it just so happens that Mitch's contract is up. Right.

That's the way it rolls. And it's business. It's a business. I'm kidding. It's not personal. It's a business and you have to make business decisions. And that's what I was saying earlier with the reaction to Luca. And I get it why you attach yourself to players, homegrown players players even more so homegrown players that love being Leafs and love being

Mavericks and love being Lakers or whatever I get it and it's very enticing and I fall into that as well I love it as well but at some point the obsession with the team and the team success I would think will trump that will surpass it you know like it's not an all-star team. It's your team and you're rooting for victories You're rooting for championships and difficult decisions have to be made at times for that to happen Alright Craig Conroy in about 20 minutes Brian Winnhorst of ESPN on the craziness around the NBA Wendy coming up at 530 Overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on the t s and out right correct on what happened about fifteen minutes leasing calgary

tomorrow night which means only one anthem tomorrow right one of one anthem and it'll be loud it'll be celebrated i have no questions about that but i guess austin matthews was asked about you know the booing of the american anthem sporting events andy declined to comment and said he doesn't want to get political. Good for him.

What's he supposed to say? He's captain of the Toronto Mavies? Just cast the anthems, totally. They should be cast anyway. Play the game. That's it. Yeah. I think that is what might end up coming out of this is that they're not really necessary.

We're always talking about time consumption. We're talking about TV, we're talking about quicker sporting events. The anthems aren't played and you start on time. That's one way to change the way people view things. First game of the season, start of the Stanley Cup finals, go nuts. Other than that, sorry, just play the game. There does not need to be every game. Yep.

I think that's reasonable. I look at it like I've always appreciated the Anthems plan. I understand why they started to be played, you know, back in the day, but I don't think it's something that any fan is thinking, I need that as a part of my... Or walk out after and say, geez, you know, I just, I can't believe I didn't, they didn't fire up the Anthem for me. There's, there's guys who are legendary whether you like them or not the guy in boston yes i'm knows there what was his i ran a billy dodson's friend

ready i'm going to add court yeah that guy was awesome singers you're right but there was a guy you know there's a guy in in denver who was uh... he had the voice of an angel like some of them it's great but you great, but when it crosses over into politics and stuff like that, then you're like, to me, it just defeats the purpose. I either do it or you don't. As a player, I didn't like it because I just wanted to get to the game personally. That was just my personal view on it. I understand it, but I also hope that things get sorted out.

But at the end of the day, that puts Austin in tough, you know, he's the captain of the Canadian market. And I think it's a reasonable question. I think it's a very reasonable answer for him. I think he doesn't have to give an answer on anything he doesn't want to. He is in a tough spot. He's between a rock and a hard place because he's the captain of the Canadian team, the largest most popular Canadian team. But he's also the captain of the Canadian team, the largest, most popular

Canadian team, but he's also the Canadian and the American team in two weeks. So that's, and he's an American, you know, living in Canada and working abroad. So it's totally reasonable to ask him that question. I think it's a totally reasonable response. He doesn't have to comment on it. Who knows what his view is? Who knows if he's even following it? You know, I don't know, but this is going to be a story

and and one positive i hope we take out of it as a country not to get too heavy is i don't let's be patriotic like let's love canada let's get let's let's get loud you know i i think that's that could be a real positive and listen we're in one right now i don't know how long it's gonna last last nobody does if there's a lot of anxiety in the country like what does this mean, the tariffs and all that kind of stuff. We don't have the answer for

you. Well I think there's been an update on that. I don't know. Well there was with Mexico. I don't know if there has been. Well Mexico could sort it out in 12 hours but who knows what's gonna go on with us. Who knows. I hope that the right people are gonna sort it out. Well I'm not blaming us for this though. We didn't start this. Like let's not go down that road. Like I know we have, we got our own issues up here for sure and we don't have parliament that's in right now. There's a lot of circuses that are happening. We don't even have a prime minister.

Technically, the guy stepped down, so who knows? Let's get it all sorted out moving forward. Yeah. I mean, we don't have that answer, but we didn't bring this upon ourselves. I mean, this was, the Americans decided to go down this road, so be it. But, you know, in terms of the reaction in the four nations and what comes of it, I'm curious about that. From an NHL standpoint, they'll never admit to this publicly,

but you get Canada-US going in the final. That brings on a different life right now. And it kind of brings on a craziness that I think a lot of people were somewhat unprepared for but yeah, we'll see. We'll see what comes of it. Let's hope it all, like you said, I think you said it right. Let's hope it all gets sorted out. Yeah, exactly.

And you know what? It's getting, I thought about it over the weekend. Hockey's hockey and I think it'd be, like this is going to be some good games. You know what I mean? These, the four teams, it'll be good hockey and if to be some good games you know what i mean these the four teams it'll be good hockey and if the guys are engaged that's what we need you know you you need that's a man people like that's not what i was all

about is that it is a business people and entertain exactly that absolutely uh... so yeah well said i guess you're right i guess and sam maybe the tariffs have been delayed thirty days that what's going on about that opens up in the negotiation window are there we go say positive news positive on your positive monday are i cps is thanks for joining cp twenty four that's breaking news on the attack

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Castle on his head. I was like, what is going on here? Dracula's castle on his head. All right, we'll play the AP thing. It was Babyface. I think that's the guy's name. Anyway, there was another artist that came through the red carpet and they cut him off and basically said, can you step aside? We want to interview this person instead. Oh no.

It's one of the most awkward moments you've ever seen in your life. Duthie would do that at the draft. He'd be like, yeah, take a hike. Gratz, come here, Gratz. I don't think he'd do that. I hope he would. Dude, I've seen Duthie do that numerous times. He'd be like, yeah, so how you feel about it?

Hang on a sec, this guy, get over here. Just push somebody to the side. That's uncalled for. So how you feel about you hang on a sec this guy get over here I don't like it. It's uncalled for Okay, so more on that into the next hour Brian Winnhorst will join us Craig Conroy leaves in Calgary tomorrow night overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN for you've been listening to overdrive powered by fan duel fan duel Bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score